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- 0:00It is the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:05The New York Yankees get blown out in both games one and two in
- 0:09Toronto to start the ALDS. Can the Bronx?
- 0:12Bombers bounce back at home. Tuesday will glad Junior in the
- 0:16Blue Jays sweep the squad at home.
- 0:19The New York Jets and Giants. Wait for it.
- 0:22Lose again, the Jets were hapless against the Cowboys.
- 0:25While the Giants shot themselves in the foot over and over again,
- 0:29down by the Bayou, in Nola blowing a very winnable.
- 0:32Game Ken Dart in fields. Turn their Seasons around for
- 0:36New York or these teams destined for top, five picks and possibly
- 0:40new leadership. And after we whip around the
- 0:43rest of the NFL coverage for week 5, we will hear from some
- 0:46downtrodden Penn State fans on their historic collapse versus
- 0:50windlass, UCLA in a jam-packed, fully loaded filling job for the
- 0:55mouth who was down south. So you got the fish cast for
- 0:58your live Monday night edition of Jabba and the It's pointing
- 1:09in one of the top three offensive players in the league.
- 1:11We're going to be looking at Aaron judge in saying that you
- 1:22can't win the big game. Michael Jordan said I played 82
- 1:25games, you don't see leban doing a game where you gotta go before
- 1:29I told you. What is up, everybody?
- 2:44It is Aaron Fishman in tonight, filling in for Errol marks.
- 2:48He is down in Florida. The mouth is down south.
- 2:52Yes he is, but we're still here with the great Joba Chamberlain
- 2:56and of course speedy, speedy. Speedy Not taking calls exactly
- 3:02tonight, because if I'm hosting, the doesn't exactly work with
- 3:05the sound board. But we have a couple of people
- 3:07calling in for a special segment on their beloved Penn State
- 3:11football program, which is going through a lot of stuff tonight.
- 3:15We got a whole bunch of great stories for you.
- 3:18A lot of baseball, a little bit of football.
- 3:22But definitely some playoff stuff that we gotta get into.
- 3:27Before we do that Jabba, how are we doing down in the basketball,
- 3:30buddy? Good man.
- 3:32It was literally a miserable day today.
- 3:34It was rainy dreary cold. It feels like 48 right now.
- 3:41It was just one of those days where it was kind of just just
- 3:43blah, you know, how you get those ones every once in a
- 3:46while. This was definitely today that
- 3:48that's coming to us. This was like the nicest day
- 3:51we've had in a long time at least for us was like 85 Sunny
- 3:55like kind of a light Breeze in the morning.
- 3:57It was really beautiful. I know it's the end of it as a
- 4:01football coach. We had a game on the weekend and
- 4:04was hot in October and we're like everyone's gonna cramp up
- 4:07luckily we were able to really kind of outclass that team get
- 4:10guys out early. Nobody cramped up for like the
- 4:13first time ever and one of our one of our hot weather games.
- 4:16So we're not on would maybe that's gonna come back to bite
- 4:19us from the Carmel police over time, but it was definitely good
- 4:22and it helped us get the W. So you know it, that's all
- 4:25important. But you know Speedy, how are you
- 4:27over there today? On the island, you always get a
- 4:29little bit more humid on the island and for me, it's a way
- 4:33more buggy on the island, then another place.
- 4:35Yeah, it wasn't buggy but it was pretty hot in there in the
- 4:38morning and in the afternoon when I was Out with the dog.
- 4:41And I always joke because my grandparents, they haven't been
- 4:46there in a while, but they had a house in Florida for a while and
- 4:48obviously that the dog has been down there a lot.
- 4:50So I was joking. He always want to stay at war in
- 4:52the heat. He's like a real Floridian.
- 4:53She wants to sunbathe like I'll take her out to the park when
- 4:57it's like 90 out. And you think that she wants to
- 4:59leave, she don't want to leave. She wants to find a patch of
- 5:02dirt and just hang out and sunbathe because she's a
- 5:05Floridian dog is 100% true. These dogs from down there that
- 5:08they love it. It's crazy.
- 5:10You would think they wouldn't because they got the fur.
- 5:12It's look, it's some dogs are wonderful animals.
- 5:16I'll tell you what's not a wonderful animal.
- 5:17Those buggy insects this time of year, it's their last hurray.
- 5:21It's the last straw. The one that bothers me the
- 5:23most? And I don't know if you have him
- 5:24over their job but he's God damn Lantern flies.
- 5:28What's a landlord, why? So you haven't seen them if you
- 5:32don't. If you haven't heard this name,
- 5:33it's like this. I don't know Speedy.
- 5:35How do you describe? They're like these flying
- 5:37hopping gross. Little monsters that destroy all
- 5:40the trees. They're an invasive species from
- 5:43oh we call him tree bugs. Because there's only been like
- 5:47two years of them right now. As far as I know where they just
- 5:50like and they get like, start off one color, then they have,
- 5:52they're like red with spots later on in the season.
- 5:55Yeah. And they like, hop on you one.
- 5:57Jumped in my car as I was in a Duncan drive through.
- 5:59I almost drove into the, the goddamn thing, the the menu
- 6:03because Atlanta fly jumped on me in the Duncan drive through, but
- 6:07no, not fireflies, Tommy fireflies.
- 6:10Everybody knows that. I know what he's talking about.
- 6:13I've heard the name tree bog more than I heard what you were
- 6:16saying. Yeah, when you said yeah, I've
- 6:19tree bugs here. But is do you guys call him
- 6:23fireflies or lightning bugs fireflies?
- 6:25All I heard I've heard them both ways.
- 6:27I don't really know. But look, we would, we would
- 6:31catch them in mason jars. Yeah.
- 6:33And then you have like a light Lisa, that somewhere in the
- 6:36Sleepaway Camp, went to sleep away camp, as a kid.
- 6:37That was something that we did for sure.
- 6:39But oh yeah, believe it, you know, like that's fun back in
- 6:42those days but there's a lot of fun that's going on around
- 6:45Sports World today. I mean we got nlds going on as
- 6:48we're speaking Dodgers, Phillies look, possibly the two best
- 6:53teams have to play each other in divisional, series that happens.
- 6:56You know, that happens often I remember 2003, the Yankees, the
- 7:01famous Aaron Boone, home, run the classic seven game series of
- 7:04the Red Sox. What happens in the World
- 7:06Series? They're flat.
- 7:09You know, they they use it all up.
- 7:11Josh Beckett was throwing a 100 out of high school or college
- 7:15and AJ Burnett on that team. A bunch of other big time guys
- 7:19and they just didn't have enough left to face that team.
- 7:21And I thought, you know, the Yankees are Red Sox, were by far
- 7:24the best teams that year they face each other, you know,
- 7:26probably the same thing the following year.
- 7:27But You know, that's the brakes as they say, we got a bunch of
- 7:32things to talk about. We got the Yankees, we're gonna
- 7:35get into in a second with their collapse in Toronto, but before
- 7:38after that, we'll talk about the real bright spot.
- 7:41That came out of that Boston series Joba.
- 7:43We're going to talk about Camp shelter in a little bit, but I'm
- 7:46gonna tell you just a little spoiler alert.
- 7:48I'm pretty excited about camshaft littler.
- 7:50After that performance, I don't think you're the only one, my
- 7:54man. We will absolutely talk about
- 7:57that. I want to step on it.
- 7:58We'll get into the rest of the visual around and we got to talk
- 8:00about the Jets and the giants. Look, everyone knows I'm a crazy
- 8:03Giants fan. I'm not perhaps very rational
- 8:06about my Giants, even though, I know it's probably not going to
- 8:09be good. It's I always have the hope
- 8:12well. That hope is mostly gone,
- 8:14Speedy. I don't think after losing to
- 8:17Spencer the rattlesnake Rattler down in the bayou that this
- 8:21season is going anywhere, other than a top, five top six pick.
- 8:24So we'll get into that. We're gonna get it, we have the
- 8:27golf clap. We got Thomas, carry nante fan
- 8:30sided content, director, coming on at 8:45 p.m. that's going to
- 8:34be a great talk about the Yankee.
- 8:36So he's gonna give us some more insight information.
- 8:37Some of these takes, I know personally I want to add him
- 8:40what he thinks is Aaron Boone's fall, and what is not Aaron
- 8:43Boone's fault. That's my favorite question.
- 8:45These days this who even knows who, how many of the decisions
- 8:49are made by Lenny from MIT up in the room with the no windows and
- 8:53how many are made on the Field, lovely.
- 8:57We don't come up with those torpedo bats, you know, like
- 9:00he's comes up with all the ideas.
- 9:01He's great, Lenny fish. We did it for next baseball
- 9:04season. We definitely need like 29 other
- 9:07of like those names. Everyone has their own version
- 9:09of MIT, guys. Look, we got Lenny from MIT, you
- 9:14know, Billy Batts from, you know, we're gonna finish tonight
- 9:18with some Java rules. We'll go over some save your
- 9:20tears. I don't know if Nathan's gonna
- 9:21join us from South Africa but a shout out to Nathan.
- 9:24Our PR guy all the way out in South Africa.
- 9:26Hope you're following along, buddy, fish, did we figure out
- 9:29what the time difference was there.
- 9:30He said it was like a 14 or 15 hour flight.
- 9:33I, I was actually, like, help in in school.
- 9:38One of the classes, I help out and they're doing the time
- 9:40Zone's actually. So I should know this right now,
- 9:43but feels like it's a lot. 10 Nott 14, 14.
- 9:46Seems like a lot. It's definitely seems like a
- 9:49lot. I know it's London.
- 9:50It's only five. Where is Nathan's in South
- 9:53Africa? Correct.
- 9:54South Africa. So right now it is 143 mm over
- 9:58there in South Africa. He's probably not a good chance
- 10:01for him to come up come on and like a couple hours in the
- 10:04middle and a couple hours gonna be like three a.m. for him now,
- 10:07the real challenge or coming to it into existence, the African
- 10:11Wilderness for Susan's leash, who prevails?
- 10:13Oh, some of those pictures. I hope his leashes big.
- 10:21Nathan sent us a bunch of pictures from the helicopter.
- 10:24Maybe we'll get those up later on in the show.
- 10:26But shout out to Nathan, shout out to Errol marks, down in
- 10:30Florida tonight. Give it trust in us with the
- 10:32with the show Mr. Marks you know, thank you very much for
- 10:35the opportunity as always, and we will see you soon.
- 10:38I know you're listening, you'll be calling in.
- 10:40We'll talk to you a little later.
- 10:41I'm saving up a special story for you for Thursday.
- 10:44We're not going to touch your old butt fumble buddy, tonight,
- 10:49he's going through it right now and tonight, let's start it off
- 10:52right off the bat with the Yankees, not doing anything at
- 10:56the start of this series against the Blue.
- 10:58Jays after riding high off of winning a pivotal game.
- 11:02Three against a Red Sox in the wildcard series.
- 11:04The Yankees have been thoroughly dominated by the AL East
- 11:08champions, Toronto, Blue Jays. And the first two games at the
- 11:11ALDS losing game one, ten to one and game two 13 to 7.
- 11:15The Blue Jays have already hit home runs in this series
- 11:18including two each from Dalton. Varsho.
- 11:21Alejandro Kirk and Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
- 11:24Who had a back-breaking gland Grand Slam in game two.
- 11:28Yankees pitching has only gotten seven strikeouts in the first
- 11:32two games. While Yankees hitters have
- 11:33already struck out, 21 times literally exactly three times as
- 11:37much. The Yankees offense has been
- 11:39mostly anemic until they were down double digits in game two
- 11:42after getting no hit by rookie. Trey, yes.
- 11:45Savage for five and a third Innings striking out 11 times
- 11:48against a surprise game to starter veteran.
- 11:51Kevin, gausman was effective in game.
- 11:53One only allowing one run. Luke Weavers struggles continued
- 11:58in game one and he has yet to record an out this postseason.
- 12:01While 19 game. Winner, Max freed had his worst
- 12:04start of the year in game 2. Allowing seven runs in eight
- 12:07hits over just three Innings pitched.
- 12:09Al batting champion. Aaron judge has four hits in two
- 12:12walks this series, but no other Yankee has more than two hits in
- 12:15one walk and Cody Bellinger's. The only one with a home run.
- 12:18The Yankees return home tomorrow for game, three on the brink of
- 12:21elimination with 18 game winner. Carlos Road, Donna on the mound
- 12:25against trade. Deadline acquisition, Shane
- 12:27Bieber. For the Blue Jays.
- 12:30Well, here it is, boys. That's What we thought might
- 12:34happen, the Yankees kind of go all out against the Red Sox team
- 12:39that was completely depleted. They did not have Roman Anthony
- 12:42know, Lucas giolito, they couldn't turn us around Lefty
- 12:46with gilito. So they put in some younger
- 12:47guys, they tried lefties and they just didn't have the roster
- 12:51Marcelo Mayer, didn't make it to the end of the season.
- 12:54That guy unfortunately has been hurt a lot and his young career,
- 12:57he's another one of their big pieces for the future.
- 12:59This is just not the year for the Red Sox yet, they took the
- 13:02Yankees to the brink. Now, we'll talk about camshaft
- 13:06and his great performance in that game on the brink game.
- 13:08Three, who was wonderful and I will talk about it.
- 13:11We got to talk about the negative because Yankees didn't
- 13:13show up. For this series, they went
- 13:15Toronto, same record, as them in the regular season, lose the
- 13:18tiebreakers, so they lose the Ali East.
- 13:21And they just get the doors, absolutely blown off of them.
- 13:26Tend to one. It wasn't even competitive.
- 13:28And then in his second game before they get any hits.
- 13:32Literally any hits they get no hit by a rookie that no one
- 13:35seen. What do you have three starts
- 13:37before this? In Major League Baseball, he
- 13:40started in able. He was an able guy and I was
- 13:44reading, you know, like the Blue Jays used them as their, you
- 13:47know, like surprised he's there, you know, little Ace up their
- 13:50sleeve. Okay, that's great.
- 13:53You have enable pitcher that's you know, Rose through the
- 13:56miners. So obviously as great stuff, But
- 13:58it's amazing to use him in game 2.
- 14:00This is not a team with a great pitching staff.
- 14:03Yet they bombarded the Yankees with great pitching in the first
- 14:06two games. And Vladimir Guerrero Jr, is
- 14:10does very well against the Yankees.
- 14:11Let's face it. And he's for real.
- 14:15Job. I mean, I don't know where you
- 14:18throw it to that guy. At this point, where he's locked
- 14:22in like this. Not not just him, but I mean,
- 14:25their lineup as a whole Curt you got our show.
- 14:28Um, it's it's crazy. Like and it's always, it's, it's
- 14:34interesting to see that they always, you know, pitching,
- 14:37Outdoes good hitting but right now it's kind of the opposite.
- 14:41I mean the Yankees giving up 23 runs that's never happened
- 14:43before. And that's literally one of
- 14:47those things, like you said fish.
- 14:48It's You you've got Aaron judge, who everybody, you know, knows
- 14:53his great. But what what's happening to
- 14:55everybody else belly is the only one with the home and he's, you
- 14:57know, on a bad wheel. And nobody else is really
- 15:01stepped up. You can't expect one guy to get
- 15:03you to the World Series. You know, everybody's kind of
- 15:06got to play their part and do it and Derek came out and kind of
- 15:09said the same thing. It's like, who needs to step up
- 15:11and he just went throughout the entire roster.
- 15:13He's 100%, right? And, you know, this kind of goes
- 15:15back what we talked about before, where, you know, they
- 15:18always want to blame, you know, cash and boonie and all those
- 15:22guys. But, you know, when you've got
- 15:24judge, who is obviously, the guy that's got four hits, but nobody
- 15:29else has more than two, and we've only got one home run.
- 15:31That's that. That's been our mole year of
- 15:33winning games. What we saw, you know, obviously
- 15:36in division series, we didn't need to hit home runs to score
- 15:38runs and did it in a different way.
- 15:40But now, when you come out and You know, you Savage and doing
- 15:44what he's done. It's they've never faced me for.
- 15:47He's never faced them. So it's kind of a catch-22.
- 15:49You don't really know what to expect.
- 15:51I mean in that was the highest swing and Miss percentage?
- 15:54Yankees had all your 58.1% and he has the highest arm slot
- 15:58other than Justin Verlander. But he's two inches taller than
- 16:03And then you got vladdy who, you know, just kind of is more.
- 16:08So coming into his own and becoming, you know that dude,
- 16:11right? And this talks about the
- 16:13articles that have come out about how he's always wanted to
- 16:16be here. You know, his dad and and all
- 16:19those things where, you know, he's kind of just putting
- 16:21together and we're not even talking about the guy that, you
- 16:23know, was the hits leader for a long time and bechet not even on
- 16:27the roster. And so you got guys that are
- 16:29literally you know, stepping up and and doing the things that
- 16:33they need to do with, you know, some some decent pitching.
- 16:36And you know, you didn't expect these young guys to do what
- 16:40they've done on both sides and then obviously Kevin it's, you
- 16:44know, just the splitter there and then you got to face another
- 16:47splitter and then it's like they're trying to piece their
- 16:49Bullpen together as well. So it's, it's not what I would
- 16:53have expected in those first two games for sure, especially with
- 16:56the runs and then everybody's like, well, they thought and
- 16:58Claw back. Right?
- 16:58Well, yeah, I was already out of hand at that point, if you asked
- 17:01me, but there are different Road team. they are home team, so
- 17:05it's Chips in a chair, right? They're not out of it, they
- 17:09can't lose tonight because they don't have a game.
- 17:11So I think it's going to be one of those things where we just
- 17:14kind of have to Take it and inning at a time and, you know,
- 17:18it's it's going to be tough. But there's gonna, you're gonna
- 17:21have to scratch and Claw and somebody's gonna have to step
- 17:23up. There's gonna have to be a big
- 17:24hit that, you know, they, they talked about Stan having
- 17:27basically the, you know, the knocking the face, kind of talk.
- 17:33If you've got a punch me in the face right now to get me going
- 17:35and in the division series in the postseason in October, then
- 17:39I don't know where we missed. Because I I wasn't a big fan of
- 17:44meetings anyways, because like, we're really what do we do?
- 17:48Unless something like catastrophic and like, hey we
- 17:51need to just sit down chill, we've just lost 18 in a row
- 17:53like, you know, certain things like that.
- 17:55But we are in October, we've been grinding.
- 17:57We know what our team is, what what is a Hey, you know, winner,
- 18:02go home, talk. What is that even do?
- 18:04Like, we get it, man. If I need to be like talk to and
- 18:08like kicked in the rear end, then I shouldn't even be in this
- 18:12position anyways. So are they going to have it?
- 18:15I would venture to say there's probably a talk of hey, we're
- 18:18not, you know what, we're still in it where a great team, you
- 18:21know, the this is quote, a cliche stuff that's going to go
- 18:25on and I think that's that's probably what's going to happen.
- 18:28It has something that Sorry speed.
- 18:31I was gonna give you something but just a comment on that job.
- 18:34I've given those speeches, you know, like to my high school
- 18:38teams and you get carried away and you think you're saying
- 18:41something that's like real motivating and then you don't
- 18:44even realize, you're kind of like you might get off Target.
- 18:48Sometimes I'm real happy. At the end of it.
- 18:49I'm like, yeah, this way good. Sometimes it's like, hey, you
- 18:53probably shouldn't have said that.
- 18:53Sometimes someone goes, hey, that didn't come out, right, you
- 18:56know? And you, it doesn't do as much
- 18:59as you think, you know, like you can only like with kids, you can
- 19:04try to get them focused and pumped up about themselves and I
- 19:06try to do that. But with professionals job, like
- 19:09like you said, well what is? I mean, John Carlos Stanton
- 19:13obviously carries a lot of weight because he's a physical
- 19:15freak of nature and he's been, he's been in this game and he's
- 19:18accomplished so much in this game.
- 19:19So he's gonna carry that weight. But you know, like talk is cheap
- 19:24man like he got to do it yourself.
- 19:26If you're not intrinsically motivated at this point in your
- 19:29career, like for Example like an Anthony Rendon, who is
- 19:32apparently more motivated to play golf and act like he's
- 19:36heard all the time. Then do anything.
- 19:37Not like chairs doesn't care at all.
- 19:39Honestly forgot that name until you brought it.
- 19:42I was like man like people go to prison for less than that bro
- 19:45it's crazy. He's stolen like was holding
- 19:49figures, nine figures that he's taken from them and I honestly
- 19:53don't think he's in any hurry no to get back.
- 19:56It's it's like the Paul George like, hangnail injuries that he,
- 20:00I think he has a lot of those times.
- 20:02When you see these types of identities, when it comes to
- 20:04playoff, matchups of division Rivals like in football and
- 20:07hockey. I think it's a little different
- 20:09when you see like, all right. You can game plan for a certain
- 20:11way, and then, especially when a team blows you out, you like,
- 20:13all right, we're gonna play the same way we did, and you saw
- 20:15that kind of thing. You see this kind of thing in
- 20:17playoff hockey too. Like, even though a team like
- 20:21the, the hurricane two years ago playing against the Rangers and
- 20:24they dominated in the regular season in the Rangers, able to
- 20:26beat them in the playoffs in baseball.
- 20:27I think it's a little different because I think you look at
- 20:29Toronto like they. Dominated the end of the season
- 20:32against the Yankees too, and you're kind of thinking, okay,
- 20:34the Yankees can make the adjustments and I was one of
- 20:36those people that was thinking of the Blue Jays, were kind of a
- 20:38fraudulent type team. Like, are they really as good as
- 20:41a one seed as perceived because they weren't supposed to be
- 20:43good? There was a team that was
- 20:44getting older. Pitching staff is like all
- 20:46veteran right-handed pitchers. That like, I guess they have
- 20:49different stylistically, pitching identities, but still
- 20:52is something that you say. All right, can we, we're tape on
- 20:55these guys, maybe the Yankees. These are all these veteran
- 20:58hitters that can figure them out.
- 20:59And Kevin obviously has experienced with the Yankees,
- 21:02but it's not always all positive experience.
- 21:04And then obviously somebody like, you savage, who they don't
- 21:07have any tape on his whole different story.
- 21:08But still, it's something that it's a little different in
- 21:11baseball that you realize and it's also the effect of the bye
- 21:14week. Like, all right.
- 21:14So far since the new playoff format is coming out, it's been
- 21:17split among the boys helping teams and buys hurting teams
- 21:21first year, I was gonna ask you, what do you got?
- 21:24I did. I personally thought like the
- 21:26momentum of game three and getting that start from cam
- 21:30would kind of like push. Us into with only that basically
- 21:32travel day and then being kind of stagnant for a week.
- 21:35I thought that would kind of be in the favor of the Yankees but
- 21:38the numbers have been like you said Speedy kind of like
- 21:42wishy-washy where you it I don't think it really matters.
- 21:45It's been an even split pretty much since the new playoff
- 21:48format in 2022. Houston was the only team that
- 21:51got that one with the by the first Year, everyone else lost
- 21:54with the by the first year, then it was an even split in 2023 and
- 21:58then last year, it kind of shifted back where the Mets
- 22:00were. The only wild card team that won
- 22:02being the Philly and so it's a mixed bag that you thought would
- 22:08be beneficial. Like you're saying to the
- 22:10Yankees that had that kind of spark that had that they all won
- 22:14the game before. So they had a two game winning
- 22:15streak going with that combined with again, more post-season
- 22:18experience the Blue Jays this core having a very negative
- 22:22postseason experience too. They've got two blown leads.
- 22:24The first year, they played against Seattle where they were
- 22:27blown these four and five on leads and then they stunk up.
- 22:29But the next year against the Twin.
- 22:31So on paper, never thought of his that could have a team.
- 22:33Even in 2023, it's just played in a week division.
- 22:36So that's the only thing that that's the other thing that
- 22:38bolded, well, again, or for the Yankees as well and I picked the
- 22:42Yankees to lose the first round against the Red Sox.
- 22:44I was thinking it was gonna be the Red Sox making this world,
- 22:46but I was like, either one of these two teams are going to be
- 22:48the Blue Jays. I just didn't trust that
- 22:49everything screamed fraud, the Blue Jays on paper, and they
- 22:53have shown that. They have a lot more, young
- 22:54talent that is hitting, then, giving credit for, they've had
- 22:57to these random spark guys, throughout the year.
- 23:00And they're pitching. And once again to be enough and
- 23:02this kid you savage kind of thought with this random thing
- 23:06we discussed about a month ago when we were talking about the
- 23:08Mets collapse like are these young kids even if that's made
- 23:11the playoffs, are they going to be ready for the moment?
- 23:12But so far, you've seen it with. We'll get, we'll get into
- 23:15slightly later and now this kid, you savage that are just four
- 23:18starts in or something like that and ready for the moment.
- 23:22Look, it's it's amazing what he did.
- 23:25But my problem is, why are the Yankees still making the same
- 23:29mistakes? They've made all season?
- 23:32Luke Weaver comes into game one. In a tight spot.
- 23:36And can't get a single guy out. The same way he couldn't get a
- 23:40single guy out, and the Red Sox series.
- 23:43Don't you think that's a guy that you put in when we're down
- 23:4610 to 1 not when we're trying to keep it close?
- 23:50And understand some of those decisions with the pain.
- 23:53It's the same type of decision that he made with Devin Williams
- 23:56earlier in the season. Putting them out there in those
- 23:58spots. And guess what if we won one
- 24:00more of those games then we lost with the Devin Williams blowing,
- 24:03it we would have had home field and the Blue Jays would have had
- 24:06to use up there. Yes.
- 24:08Savage experiment in the, you know, the wild card and we would
- 24:12have been able to be all set up for them and maybe Luke Weaver
- 24:15could have had some time to work out his tipping of the pitches
- 24:18that he's trying to get back in his rhythm which apparently is
- 24:21the issue with him. I mean, job, you tell me like
- 24:23that guy. They're saying that he was
- 24:25tipping so he's trying to stop tipping but now it's messed up
- 24:28his mechanic's. I mean he seems like there's no
- 24:31chance in him getting this right before next.
- 24:33Season to me at least it's it's weird too because there was
- 24:37there was an article on it today where or it might have been the
- 24:41other day where it's just it was talking about how this this is
- 24:45where I think sometimes paralysis by analysis comes in
- 24:47because they were talking about. Oh, the You're the most watched
- 24:51with iPads in the in the Angles and all the cameras and stuff.
- 24:55Well, they can know what pitches mean.
- 24:58They still gotta hit it. It comes down to executing and
- 25:01it comes down to I could tell you exactly that, it's a
- 25:06fastball that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to
- 25:08hit it. So I think for him, too and
- 25:11we've kind of seen this in you kind of touched on it.
- 25:15There's been a little bit of like this.
- 25:18It feels like the same of what they did with Devin Williams,
- 25:20like you said, like try to let him figure it out in these like,
- 25:23but that's early in the season and like you said it, people are
- 25:27people. People are like why the seasons
- 25:29too long, but we're talking about something early in the
- 25:31season that affects this this whole season, right?
- 25:35where we are like well, if they would have not I guess
- 25:39experimented with him trying to get him back.
- 25:41Then we have home field. But now you're doing it with
- 25:44Luke Weaver. In this situation.
- 25:46I somebody's gonna have to step up.
- 25:48Somebody's going to have to eat those Innings anyways.
- 25:51But is is right now the time to try to get him, you know, off
- 25:56the schneid. I don't, I don't think so you
- 25:59can, you can get them in Innings where it's it's not high
- 26:03leverage and you know, boonie came out and said that, you
- 26:06know, they're still going to use them in high leverage.
- 26:07It's just it's tough to be able to do it and try to regain your
- 26:11confidence and obviously he knows he's good enough, he's
- 26:14done it. But when you're grinding and
- 26:17then it's magnified by 5,000 because it is the playoffs and
- 26:21you haven't done anything. You know, it's a little bit
- 26:23different than Devin Williams in April and May right where it's
- 26:27like, okay, I can grind through this and get, but now it's like,
- 26:30well, I just wears on me for the whole thing and now I've got to
- 26:33try and refigure recalibrate. However you want to word it,
- 26:37what my delivery is because now everybody's saying they have
- 26:40every pitch so it's tough. I mean it's tough when they
- 26:44don't know what it is because he's guys are great.
- 26:46But now you're you're literally like probably I would say over.
- 26:51Thinking everything it's like well okay now my pinkies out now
- 26:55are you focus on executing and being committed to the pitch
- 26:58right about? Okay.
- 26:58My front shoulders closed or hey my my toe is angled like there's
- 27:02so many things now, you worried about it where you forget, you
- 27:04still got to throw it over the plate, no matter if they know it
- 27:07or not and also I like a hitch in the golf swing, right?
- 27:09I also think Java like you have these instances where contracts
- 27:13like play into that too. Good.
- 27:14You have GMS that maybe either made a bad trade or made a bad
- 27:18contract. Telling the managers oh, keep
- 27:19playing these guys, it'll eventually work out and I think
- 27:22that you're dealing with, especially with a bigger Market
- 27:24team, you deal with that kind of conflict when it comes to these
- 27:27either higher price bad contracts that don't work out.
- 27:29Or in this case a trade that didn't work out.
- 27:31Because Caleb Durbin is doing very well in Milwaukee and Devon
- 27:34Williams was pretty Rocky all year with the Yankees.
- 27:36You're trying to justify that kind of thing to work.
- 27:39When I've seen, you have David Bernard that's coming in played
- 27:41very well. You have these other relievers
- 27:44like Fernando Cruz, young relievers Homer.
- 27:45Homegrown guys that have worked out and you just try to justify
- 27:48and just overall the balance of that kind of thing can.
- 27:51Happen, where you try to still, try to cater to what, I guess
- 27:55either Cashman or the front office did or just say, all
- 27:58right, these are the best players that we should have in
- 28:00this situation based on splits or based on a career batting
- 28:04averages against this guy or whatever.
- 28:05And that was the kinds of things that have to, you have to look
- 28:08at in the postseason as well. You should these contracts.
- 28:11These trades should not matter. It's just see a hungry or team
- 28:14in Toronto than what I see in New York.
- 28:16That's what I see a team that is playing together and wants it.
- 28:21Really badly wants to be the Yankees, really badly wants to
- 28:24prove that. Even though they had the same
- 28:26record, it wasn't a tie that they were the team of the AL
- 28:29East. And I think they're just going
- 28:31to, they might just shove tomorrow as well.
- 28:33And it might be a sweep and we have to deal with losing on our
- 28:37home field like we did in the World Series last year and I'm
- 28:40pretty afraid of that. Look, we got Road, Don 18 game
- 28:44winner, had the season. Everyone was hoping that he
- 28:46would have. I mean, that's big part of the
- 28:48reason why the Yankees are here is Rodan and freed who did.
- 28:51Absolutely nothing in game 2. I mean, I can't explain what
- 28:53happened to him. I mean, Jabba, you'd be better
- 28:55to explain it to me but before we do like Rodan is that guy if
- 29:00he can? He is more than capable of doing
- 29:03it. But I don't, I hope that bun
- 29:04learns his lesson from the Red Sox series because he left them
- 29:07into long and he let two guys on and the top of, I think it was
- 29:10the seventh and it leads to, you know, the game getting tied up
- 29:13or the Yankees falling behind rather.
- 29:16And that's something that another thing Boone is done
- 29:18where he's left, guys, in. Because remember Rodan, got that
- 29:21one pitch, double play. After you got into a whole load
- 29:24of trouble in the sixth. I could have sworn like that was
- 29:27like, oh thank God. All right.
- 29:28Now you can take them out, you can get to the pain and now now
- 29:31we're good. Now he left them in there now.
- 29:35I love that rodan's guy who's not gonna, he's never gonna say
- 29:38I want to come out, right? So you love that from your
- 29:40picture but it's another one of those things is bun.
- 29:43Going to learn from his mistakes or is he just like this is how I
- 29:46do it? Even if the results are poor.
- 29:49So I don't know. Look, we'll find out.
- 29:51Well, next time that we are on the show on Thursday.
- 29:53We're not gonna be on Wednesday next episode because there will
- 29:55be back on Thursday, so we're pushing it.
- 29:57Thursday. If the Yankees win the next two
- 30:00games, you know, will either be talking about a game five or
- 30:02we're doing a post-mortem on a season on Thursday, boys.
- 30:04But before we do that, let's talk about the one great bright
- 30:09spot of the Yankees, which was that game.
- 30:11Three performance by rookie pitcher.
- 30:14Cam schlittler. Oh man.
- 30:17I'm so excited to talk about this.
- 30:19So, here we go. In more positive, Yankees news,
- 30:22rookie pitcher Camp schlitter. Had a massive performance
- 30:26dominating in his postseason. Debut in a winner.
- 30:29Go home game 3. Verse the Red Sox in the Wild
- 30:31Card round, Schiller pitched, eight scoreless Innings and
- 30:35struck out 12. Red Sox sitters didn't allow a
- 30:37single walk. Schlitter is the first pitcher
- 30:39in baseball history to have eight scoreless Innings zero
- 30:43walks in 12, K's Lang's also mentioned.
- 30:45So there had the third most strikeouts by a rookie In their
- 30:48postseason debut, Blue, Jays rookie trai.
- 30:52Savage as we talked about with 11 is now fourth on that list
- 30:55behind schlitter. Also mentioned slider through
- 30:5864, pitches at 98 miles an hour or faster.
- 31:02Since pitch tracking started in 2008.
- 31:05That's six more than any other pitcher in a playoff game and
- 31:08second most ever behind hunter, green who threw 67 in a game in
- 31:132022 of the 107 pitches Slither through in the eight Innings,
- 31:1796, where some kind of fastball fastball for steamer a sinker or
- 31:21Cutter. Which was just under 90% of his
- 31:24pitches thrown to make matters even sweeter.
- 31:27This is the part that to me just really warmed up my heart
- 31:31schlitter, who grew up a Red Sox fan and lives in South.
- 31:34Boston AKA South the in the offseason had a little extra
- 31:38motivation in this one. As he told reporters, that some
- 31:41prominent Boston fan influencers went too far on line har.
- 31:47His mother in the lead up to the game.
- 31:49After the mic drop performance shoulder took to social media,
- 31:53grabbing, another mic to troll some of these haters making fun
- 31:57of their takes and telling them to get ready for Brewing season.
- 32:01Schlitter, will likely start game 4 on Wednesday.
- 32:04If the Yankees were able to keep their season alive tomorrow
- 32:07night versus the Blue Jays in game three.
- 32:11Oh man, was this great? I look the Yankees might get
- 32:15swept in this series but at least we had that iconic moment.
- 32:20Where Cam schlittler a rookie showed up.
- 32:24Looks like to me, I thought I was watching Gary Cole on the
- 32:27mound for a while. The way, not the way he was
- 32:29pitching, just the composure, it every inning he walked off on
- 32:34your calm control. And I was looking at him and
- 32:37he's even got the hair kind of like how cold you used to have
- 32:39it too. And I'm just looking at him,
- 32:40like, I'm like, God, did we just get a rookie Gerrit Cole?
- 32:43Is that what we're looking at? Right now a guy who's got ice in
- 32:47his veins and I'm on top of it. Hates the Red Sox like on a
- 32:52personal level. Which is what I've always wanted
- 32:55from my players. I mean, Pump this into my veins
- 32:58Joba. This is this is what every
- 33:01Yankees fan has been wanting forever.
- 33:03I mean, it's part of the reason why we love you as a player so
- 33:05much. Is that intensity?
- 33:07The love for competition? The love for going at the big
- 33:10you know teams that the big rivals not like just showing up
- 33:13against the Marlins. You know what I mean?
- 33:15Like showing up against the Red Sox going after them and then
- 33:18not only, you know, doing it and then rubbing it in Rubbing it
- 33:23in. I loved every second of it.
- 33:25It made me so happy. So even if they don't, they
- 33:28don't get past this to me, what an iconic moment.
- 33:31It's very exciting for the future is now you have a
- 33:35rotation next year that should feature call back with freed
- 33:38Rodan and schlitter. You got Clarke Schmidt probably
- 33:42hanging around the periphery coming back from injury you got
- 33:44Luis heal who's you know obviously the season was like a
- 33:49truncated season for him coming back from injury as well.
- 33:52He was the Rookie of the Year the year before.
- 33:54It's not where he was last year, maybe he can turn around.
- 33:57That's six guys. Right off the bat.
- 34:00That for a lot of teams, he got four of those guys are one or
- 34:04two pictures, and then the others are probably three four,
- 34:07guys, not five stars like Clarke Schmidt, started the season.
- 34:10You forget Clark Smith was on touchable at the beginning of
- 34:13the Season, he was playing like an Ace and he's their fifth guy.
- 34:18This team could be really good going forwards.
- 34:21As of right now, if they get to game four, I'll tell you what.
- 34:24I got a trust in this Camp, schlitter, to get us the game
- 34:27five. I would love to see that.
- 34:29I hope we see it. Java, you must have had some
- 34:33kind. I was a goosebump in like
- 34:35inducing because I couldn't believe what I was watching, man
- 34:38him to do what he did in that situation and we've seen that
- 34:42you know kind of this whole post season guys young kids that you
- 34:45didn't expect to be in the situation.
- 34:46There are pitch. Well I mean You had.
- 34:51You got? To tip your hat when these young
- 34:53kids come to these situations and, you know, early for the Red
- 34:56Sox, he wasn't supposed to pitch that game but he didn't pitch
- 34:59terrible. And you got, anybody could have
- 35:02pitched against Cam that day and it probably would have been a
- 35:05tough battle but The composure you touched on.
- 35:08But for me it's like watching how He just methodically goes
- 35:15about his showed a little bit emotion, which I like, but you
- 35:18obviously he's not a huge emotion guy and we there's
- 35:20enough starts to kind of see what his, you know, demeanor on
- 35:23the mound is but in this is without an.
- 35:26If you look at his number, his secondary, like his curveball
- 35:29isn't that great? Just imagine when he gets that
- 35:31over and he continues to get, not to say he's not comfortable,
- 35:34but gets A whole season. I mean, because he started in
- 35:39Somerset and I know going through the grind of minor
- 35:44leagues and getting to the the postseason and having, you know,
- 35:47kind of, you know, Mark on you as a young kid that that's
- 35:50helping a team win it, you know, it can weigh on you a little
- 35:53bit, but I think the most impressive thing was, is he was
- 35:57able to separate it because, you know, he he didn't get ahead of
- 36:01himself and clap back on social media, but I don't know if you
- 36:05guys saw some of his clapbacks though, they were phenomenal,
- 36:09like the one to the chicken, the Red Sox jersey and he's like,
- 36:12not this year, I mean, this drinking that dirty water, like
- 36:17the dude like and live your best life dog.
- 36:20Like you had that 24 hours and the crazy part is and we've
- 36:24talked about this like you can tell me I suck.
- 36:26You can tell me whatever you want.
- 36:27I don't care. But like when you go into family
- 36:30and especially, you know, him still living in South Boston,
- 36:34like I could only imagine Some of the stuff that he heard in,
- 36:38like, you know, from your boys is one thing, right?
- 36:41Because that's you know what? You're going to get from your
- 36:43boys, and that's it, man. It was, it was fun to see.
- 36:45I think when he just continues, I think he's gonna get better.
- 36:49He has a great group of guys around him.
- 36:52To get him better. And you can kind of see all
- 36:54that. That's starting group of guys,
- 36:57kind of their demeanors, kind of mesh together as far as the kind
- 37:01of the way they handle some things, you know, motion, every
- 37:03once in a while. But, you know, it's just fun.
- 37:06And you saw those guys afterwards after he got done
- 37:09they're like they're like, how did you feel like?
- 37:11Well literally I was fanboying like I was I was a fan.
- 37:14I wasn't watching it as like you know, dissecting a sequences or
- 37:18is delivery like I was watching it as a fan as a lot of us were
- 37:21and when when you get somebody in that position doing what,
- 37:26like it's so fun to watch because it's just the game is
- 37:30there and And I don't know, like I said this is this is the
- 37:34manager whatever talk. But that's a game that and he
- 37:38can't even said, he talks about load manage.
- 37:41Many talked about. Have you ever gone into as deep
- 37:43as that game? They're like no.
- 37:44Usually at 95 pitches is kind of when in boonie just kind of was
- 37:48like he's throwing strikes. I love the fact like that it
- 37:52felt like there was a little feel to run him back out there,
- 37:54right? And mind you he didn't have that
- 37:56many things like as free didn't game one, we saw a kind of what
- 37:59happened but I I loved it because it felt like I'm
- 38:03watching the game. I'm not watching numbers.
- 38:06NFL good for him to go out because it it's damned if you
- 38:10do. Damned if you don't though,
- 38:11right? Like if they send him back out
- 38:12and he gives up, you know, he gives up the booty as this show
- 38:15like to do on this Lord. Then you're like, oh, he should
- 38:20have taken him out, but I just love it.
- 38:23Felt like a real feel move, it played the way it should have.
- 38:27And that's why I love the feel aspect of it in these, and I'm
- 38:31excited for whatever happens to watch this kid, grow in
- 38:36confidence, and just see, you know, everything, just get that
- 38:39much better and continue develop because right now, he's just
- 38:43stunned. I think it's just, the sky is
- 38:45the limit for the kid before I get to my statement.
- 38:47I just want to give a shout out to Donnie in the comments
- 38:49section whose saying that he's about to have next surgery, next
- 38:53month and his mom stage 4 breast cancer.
- 38:55So Donnie, I wishing you and your mother all the best in
- 38:57everything medically with you. And thanks for listening Donnie
- 39:01Clark New listener in the comments section.
- 39:02So I was gonna mention with him too Java.
- 39:04That was the Dilemma that you always get with younger
- 39:06pitchers. Like I maybe not as early as as
- 39:10swear him up, obviously this late in the season but like I
- 39:13referenced it with the Mets in 2015 with Matt Harvey.
- 39:16Like they brought him out for the night and it didn't work
- 39:18out. Then you have a situations like
- 39:20Houston their first playoff, run in 2017 with somebody like Lance
- 39:23McCullers. I think it was in the second
- 39:24year in the league but he was just coming off of injury.
- 39:26They let him go long in those. Games against the Yankees and
- 39:30against the Dodgers in the playoffs.
- 39:32And they made that kind of thing work.
- 39:34And a bull pennant I thought was very questionable at that time,
- 39:37they kind of patched together and they kind of made that thing
- 39:39work. And you seen it with some of
- 39:41these newer teams as we've seen it with younger teams.
- 39:44Now that I've had more success in the playoffs and they get
- 39:48scrutinized when it doesn't work.
- 39:49And it's easy to just judge hindsight to make that kind of
- 39:51thing work. Because you have to have certain
- 39:54things that factor in to why you would pull a guy, but there was
- 39:57no reason for when he wasn't addressing really any hard
- 40:00contacts like he's a 12 strikeouts. velocity that was
- 40:04never dropping off really at all and Didn't walk anybody.
- 40:08There was no reason ever, think to take him out in the eighth,
- 40:11inning, whatsoever, even when he was even when he was getting up
- 40:14there in the, as a pitch count because you're like, okay, a
- 40:17hundred pitches considered a quote unquote threshold.
- 40:19Now, granted, every picture is going to be different with that,
- 40:21but when you're stuff does not look like it's deteriorating
- 40:24whatsoever, especially with that level of strikeouts and the Red
- 40:27Sox, not adjusting to fastballs, not just, it's not like, okay,
- 40:31we're having trouble with your breaking stuff or having trouble
- 40:33with your change up. They didn't adjust the
- 40:35fastballs. Yeah, he has three different
- 40:36types, which I always I always, I'm obviously not a Player
- 40:40Development guy, but I would imagine like having a cutter and
- 40:43having a two seamer gives you a lot more action than just having
- 40:45a traditional forcing, her and just relying on velocity and
- 40:48that made it hard for him, it's a top too.
- 40:49And I always said picture, should do that kind of thing to
- 40:51give some variety and a high giving age.
- 40:53And the Red Sox is a know. It's Yeah, and he pitched all
- 40:59four quadrants if you if you look at it and it is not when
- 41:02you're that when you have that ability to be able to cut it and
- 41:05sink, it to be able to handle both sides of the plate.
- 41:08It's it's pretty impressive and these young kids.
- 41:11Now you see it and you know the schemes of the world and you
- 41:15know the schools and school was not that old but it's held back
- 41:19with injury at the beginning of his career.
- 41:21So yeah, exactly. And but that that kind of goes
- 41:25back to something, you talked about like in the, you know, his
- 41:28pitch count or whatever and you see all of these guys.
- 41:32When cam talks about that 95, that's kind of when they was
- 41:35start talking to me, school was career, high is 108.
- 41:39Back in the day, dudes were throwing BP with 108 pitches you
- 41:43know. And what how many pictures did
- 41:45all lighter throw in that in that World Series game?
- 41:47What was it like 60 or something?
- 41:50It was like one 603 or something?
- 41:52One, something crazy. Yeah and that's, you know, and
- 41:56then they go through BP or they played long time.
- 41:58So it's definitely different where you don't see it as much.
- 42:01There's a few guys that that have that in the game, where
- 42:04they like, nope, you're not taking me out but you've got to
- 42:08earn that, right? And there's very few guys that
- 42:10have earned that. I think we can probably count on
- 42:12one hand right now that are playing where you'd be like.
- 42:15Hey What do you think big fella like, you know, this one's on
- 42:19you and so you you have those guys but I think when you start
- 42:24seeing it in the playoffs, in certain things where we've seen
- 42:28it, vitamin the butt on the other side of it.
- 42:31Right. Where I mean, the obvious
- 42:34Infamous raised taking Snell out when only four hits in the World
- 42:37Series, and we see what happened.
- 42:39Because yeah, the numbers, where That was that was, that was what
- 42:43Arrow was really like, because Josh who hosts game on our
- 42:48Network and myself also were really big fans of Kevin cash at
- 42:50Harold's like, oh, he's overrated like he screwed and I
- 42:53can't cash forever with that happens.
- 42:56It's still I mean it's still gets brought up in that.
- 42:58That's one of those things where you're just like you're not
- 43:01wrong. Definitely not wrong.
- 43:03Well let's get into the rest of these playoff games.
- 43:06We got a couple, get speaking of snow, he's pitching right now.
- 43:09In fact they just took him out. I'm sure you're not surprised.
- 43:11One hit four, walks nine case. Dave Roberts is another one that
- 43:15preemptively doesn't early too and a lot of people criticized
- 43:18him for that. Look, you know, if you're going
- 43:21to be and look, the Blue Jays manager, he took out hoodie,
- 43:24take out in the third inning game, too.
- 43:27He took out the starting, pitcher not game.
- 43:28Two game one. He went quick.
- 43:30Now it wasn't the Blue Jays. Oh, Seattle said it early.
- 43:34It was yeah, Seattle. Yeah.
- 43:37That's right. So let's get in.
- 43:38Let's get into the rest of these guys, we have the other Series
- 43:42in the ALDS between the Tigers and Mariners is not it up at 1,
- 43:45after both teams won a game by the score of three to two tigers
- 43:49won game. One with Kerry Carpenter,
- 43:51hitting a key to run Homer and Zach mckinstry, getting the
- 43:54game-winning hit in the 11th inning in game.
- 43:56Two, the Mariners behind. Jorge lanco's two home runs off
- 43:59at Tariq school ball and Julio. Rodriguez is 8th inning.
- 44:03RBI double which drove in possible MVP Cal Raleigh, which
- 44:07give Seattle the lead for good in that one.
- 44:10In the nlds there's action tonight with the Brewers and the
- 44:13Cubs Brewers are leading one to nothing that game starts at
- 44:169:08. They dominated the Cubs and
- 44:19game. One nine to three including six
- 44:21runs in the first inning against Matthew Boyd, who for some
- 44:24reason was pitching on short. Rest Jackson Cherry-O led the
- 44:27way from Milwaukee, with three, hits and three RBIs, but left
- 44:30the game with right hamstring tightness.
- 44:31He is playing tonight in the other nlds series, which some
- 44:35believe contain the two best teams in baseball game.
- 44:38One went to the Dodgers who came back to beat the Phillies 5 to
- 44:413. TI Oscar Hernandez is dominant.
- 44:43Postseason continues with a three-run home, run in the
- 44:46seventh inning, put in the Dodgers ahead for good, likely
- 44:49and l m v p show. Hey, Tony was over 4 at the
- 44:51plate and allowed three runs in the first inning as a pitcher.
- 44:54But settled down. Completely after that.
- 44:57Striking out nine batters and keeping the Dodgers in Striking
- 45:00Distance game, two is in action as we speak, it is for nothing
- 45:04in the 8th inning Blake's. Now just mentioned it domination
- 45:08for him, luzardo had another good game.
- 45:10Three hits. Two runs one.
- 45:12Walk 5Ks and his six Innings. The Philly Bullpen gave up
- 45:16another two. It's four, nothing.
- 45:18This how you end up doing on your fantasy team, How did did I
- 45:22do? I started Lizardo was actually
- 45:24one of the best guys that I traded for.
- 45:26He is he had 216 strikeouts this season, and he, he's a guy that
- 45:32he's, I always try to look at the guys that have the high K
- 45:34rate that maybe they got through some bumps in the season but
- 45:38they were really good for a stretch, you never know as a
- 45:42fan, what happened? But you just assumed something
- 45:43happened and you just hoping that he could find it and that
- 45:46was, that's what I thought was going on with him.
- 45:48He finished really strong Sean and I did finish strong for me
- 45:52when I traded for him. So I thought, well look, I
- 45:57thought the sweeper was going to make him into that new pitcher
- 46:00that we all talked about turns out not enough at least that's
- 46:04why the Mets fire their whole like freaking staff.
- 46:07Hi, look. He looked good the year before I
- 46:10don't, I don't know. Man, that's a problem.
- 46:12But let's let's quickly. Let's quickly talk about each
- 46:15one of these series. Before we move on, I want to get
- 46:18into the ALDS first, the Tigers and Mariners.
- 46:21These are two pretty evenly matched teams.
- 46:24You would you would like to see maybe a little bit more depth in
- 46:28the Detroit lineup than you see, but they have they traded for.
- 46:31I think one of the most underrated moves at the deadline
- 46:35was the Tigers acquiring Finnegan for their Bullpen.
- 46:38He has been fantastic for them. That is the guy that they sorely
- 46:42sorely needed. Now, the kind of have him and
- 46:45vest back there late in the game with a couple other guys there.
- 46:49They're a lot more sound, taking some of those pictures out early
- 46:52besides school, you know, who gives them?
- 46:55Great length. It's it.
- 46:57I like their staff and on the other side, the Mariners It's
- 47:01like, they should be better than what they play.
- 47:05I think that they should have a better offense with Josh nailer.
- 47:08You ain't he owes, you know, you got, you got Rodriguez, who's,
- 47:12you know, perennial All-Star starting out of the gate in his
- 47:16early 20s. And of course, there is right
- 47:18there on the screen Cal Raleigh. Cal Raleigh hits 60, home runs
- 47:22this season. This team should be, should be
- 47:26better than Detroit because they're pitching is good too
- 47:28Kirby. Started the first game wasn't
- 47:30enough is Gilbert's healthy enough to go right now.
- 47:34Is he going? Logan Gilbert, he pitched?
- 47:37Oh no, Gilbert's. I don't think he pitched.
- 47:40Yeah, I think they're gonna. Wait it out for later in the
- 47:42series, I guess? Yeah, he was yeah, they're gonna
- 47:44wait have enough. Yeah.
- 47:45The old flexor tendon earlier this year job, if you remember
- 47:49correctly, and of course his arms not right?
- 47:52But they're gonna try to get what they can out of them.
- 47:54Got Castillo over there, who's been a good picture in this
- 47:57league for a very long time and that's what you need in the
- 47:59playoffs. You would think those are the
- 48:01types of guys that you want, but Castillo's on a short leash.
- 48:03So Gilbert is scheduled to start game three though.
- 48:06Apparently as of now. Okay.
- 48:07So then it is Gilbert because Gilbert, I would say before he
- 48:11was hurt, could be considered a top 10 to top 15 picture in this
- 48:14game. If he is healthy, he is as good
- 48:17as anybody and Kirby's, probably something like three years in a
- 48:21row with 200 Innings before this year thing.
- 48:23Got her little bit this year, but that guy gives Great
- 48:25Lengths. He's also in his 20.
- 48:27Still that. That's a team that has a lot
- 48:30going forward. I think they're really
- 48:31impressive. I think Seattle is going to win
- 48:34this series but Troy's pesky man.
- 48:37They play a lot of platoon stuff like Carrie Carpenter, hit that
- 48:41home run and then he wasn't in the next game.
- 48:43You know. It's it's a very strange team
- 48:47Detroit. And obviously they're being
- 48:49pieced together by a manager that was forced out of the
- 48:52league for a little bit because of some banging of some trash
- 48:55can not. What was it?
- 48:57Hinch was with my right with that.
- 49:00Yeah. Was it?
- 49:01Yeah yeah. That's was the trashcan Bangor.
- 49:04And at least a trash can Banger. Yep.
- 49:07You know with the buzzers and you know, Beltran and Korra and
- 49:12the Fun Bunch, you know, it was still bitter about that 2017
- 49:16season job. I'm sorry the Yankees haven't
- 49:19won as you know since you were there and you know that was our
- 49:24best chance and now we're sitting here with this team
- 49:27that's very incomplete and we're looking at you know I think that
- 49:31Mariners teams pretty good job. I think Speedy.
- 49:33You were saying you think they're gonna go to the World
- 49:35Series? I had it, I picked him to go to
- 49:37the World Series because I they were also a team that again,
- 49:40their first, playoff their first, playoff year, 2022 with
- 49:43this core. They they had those comebacks
- 49:45against Toronto and then they were doing well against the
- 49:47Astros until their Bullpen led by Mets, Legend.
- 49:50Rafael Montero at that time. Among many others blowing a lot
- 49:53of leads and but they still hung tough.
- 49:56So I knew this team was going to be closed for a while.
- 49:57My thing is, I just wasn't sure if they were even gonna make it
- 50:00because Texas was coming along late in the season and they had
- 50:03a massive losing streak literally after the game.
- 50:05I went to, when the Mets the Mets collapsed again and they
- 50:08lost nine in a row. I think after that Texas did and
- 50:10they missed the playoffs and then Houston it's probably the
- 50:13big collapse. We didn't really talk about as
- 50:15much was just as bad as the Mets and what we thought Detroit was
- 50:18going to be at the time in the regular season so I just even
- 50:22sure that they're gonna make it. But I said, if they were going
- 50:23to make it they are very well built because of the pitching
- 50:25death that they have. They probably have the on paper,
- 50:29best Bullpen among the American League teams, and probably
- 50:32besides the Padres, and the Brewers probably the better ones
- 50:35in baseball, and among those playoff teams.
- 50:38So I thought they were very well-built.
- 50:39I thought they were the best team at the trade deadline.
- 50:41Getting like you said, getting nailer and getting some more
- 50:45offensive depth that they really need it because their top end
- 50:48offends was always very good for a while but there are depth was
- 50:51still a concern. I think they are very well-built
- 50:54and it was just a matter of if they had a university which I
- 50:56did think they did because throughout the year we were
- 50:58saying okay Cal rally is he going to drop off at any points
- 51:02is the 60 home run Pace that he's on?
- 51:05Is it going to? I think he and the team has
- 51:08played with that kind of chip on their shoulder because of that
- 51:10and I always thought they're structurally have been
- 51:12well-represented this off season and then finally making those
- 51:22big trades for get some power in their lineup with Suarez and
- 51:25with nailer To go along with those guys.
- 51:28So, I think they're very well right now.
- 51:30I definitely think they, if they advance in this series, they're
- 51:33going to beat whoever comes out of the blue jays are the Yankees
- 51:35series and I just think they're a little more belt.
- 51:36Now the tigers are interesting too fish.
- 51:38Like you were saying they just lack a little depth that's why I
- 51:41worry about them. A little more in a longer series
- 51:43like a shortest series with Cleveland, like they both kind
- 51:45of play the same way so it's like all right which team is
- 51:48greater Is Gonna Come Out of This and Detroit just willed
- 51:51him. Well, just a little more
- 51:52playing. The small ball but in a longer
- 51:55series, do they have enough? Pitching death, I mentioned the
- 51:57stat last week. I think besides Google like the
- 52:00pitchers had a 5.70 or 8 or something in the starting
- 52:02rotation and they went with an unconventional approaching game,
- 52:05one kind of going with that opener kind of those they've
- 52:08like four or five of those different types of hybrids and
- 52:10they made it work and game one. But lost game too.
- 52:12So it's still Advantage, goes to Seattle, even with the series
- 52:15system in Detroit. So I'm still gonna take him at
- 52:17the moment. Yeah let's yeah.
- 52:19That it's a fun series. No no, it's a fun series.
- 52:22And yeah and I Speedy. I'm just we can you touched
- 52:25everything? But I think you are right?
- 52:27If they get in because then they're going to get Brian move
- 52:30back hopefully. So that just adds more depth to
- 52:32what they can do and, you know, just frustrating.
- 52:36I don't know if you guys saw his interviews or not but you could
- 52:38just tell the dejection in his voice, like, you know, not being
- 52:42on the roster for, you know, I mean, shoot he's.
- 52:45But he went six innings for 23 stars in a row before it didn't
- 52:48happen, man. He's been consistent and, you
- 52:50know, it sucks to grind with your buddies and do all the
- 52:54work. And then you got to sit there
- 52:55and watch. It's probably just eating at
- 52:56him, so he's trying to get back. But yeah, it's gonna be tough.
- 52:59They They're so deep now with what they've got and it's this
- 53:03is a fun series because they play completely different kind
- 53:07of the same, but then it's just back and forth and it's been,
- 53:10it's been a really, really fun series because you don't know.
- 53:12You've seen it. They've scored two, then they
- 53:15scored two, they score one, they score one.
- 53:16I talking with everybody, you know, on social media.
- 53:19And it's like, okay, I got to recreate myself because they
- 53:22just scored again. So, no.
- 53:23It's, it's been a really fun series.
- 53:24I want to quickly go through just the Cubs and the Brewers,
- 53:29because we've only seen one game, the next game is gonna
- 53:31start in about a half hour, the Cubs and Brewers are two teams
- 53:34that, you know, the NL Central. Strong division.
- 53:39The Brewers. No one really thought they were
- 53:42going to have the season that they had.
- 53:44They've got a, I mean, job of I think they had the most.
- 53:48Did they have? Like the most wet plus run
- 53:51differential in the League this year?
- 53:53And I think there's something where they were just the best
- 53:55power-hitting team in baseball for most of the Season.
- 53:59Maybe it was the NL. They have been just awesome.
- 54:02They got, then they're getting it from guys that you don't
- 54:04expect. They have a lot of guys that are
- 54:06like 15, 15. 2020 type of guys, they got yelled, there they got
- 54:12Contreras for some veterans, but they have a lot of young guys
- 54:17Bryce terrain. Just had a great season at
- 54:19second base. He's one of the five or 10.
- 54:21Best second baseman in baseball, and it's just second year, he's
- 54:25really had a coming out party this year.
- 54:26Caleb Durbin, The Yankees gave up for Devin Williams.
- 54:31He's come on late in the season. He got South Frolic, who's a
- 54:34nice little outfielder, kind of like a motor guy that could play
- 54:38at the top of the lineup or, you know, the bottom against, you
- 54:40know, the same handed pitching. You got to have guys like that.
- 54:43It reminds me of Brett Gardner, to be honest with you.
- 54:45The right fielder version of Brett Gardner.
- 54:47Maybe not as good as defensively.
- 54:48But, you know, like you need guys like that in your lineup
- 54:51and they just have those types of guys.
- 54:52Freddie, Peralta has been fantastic this season.
- 54:55He's I don't know how many wins he had.
- 54:58He might have had 18 or 19 by the end of the year.
- 55:00Freddie, but he was absolutely fantastic.
- 55:02He's another one of the guys I traded for in the fantasy team
- 55:05that was didn't work out for me. A job.
- 55:07I had traded for shohei ohtani and Jose Ramirez.
- 55:10I thought I was, I was set except I lost, Corey Seager to
- 55:14an appendix and I lost. Who else one of my and Kyle
- 55:18Tucker with the leg and he was just terrible, the second half
- 55:21and it did me and just didn't have enough, but guess what?
- 55:24Nobody cares about fantasy. This is the real time and we've
- 55:27got The Cubs and Brewers facing off for the all the marbles.
- 55:31The Cubs. Are they healthy enough to
- 55:34compete with this Brewers team in this series?
- 55:36I don't know. Say a Suzuki had a bad second
- 55:39half of the Season he's playing hurt.
- 55:40Kyle Tucker is a shell of himself they don't have their
- 55:44guys hitting on all cylinders so I worry that combined with their
- 55:48pitching being a little Hit or Miss.
- 55:49I don't know if they have enough to beat this Brewers team.
- 55:54But you know, we'll see how it goes.
- 55:57What do you think? Yeah.
- 55:57It's the, the Brewers. I mean, obviously, nobody
- 56:00expected Murphy's is an unbelievable manager is.
- 56:04He's, I got to know him a little bit in college playing against
- 56:09him when he was at Arizona State, and then obviously ended
- 56:12my career in Milwaukee and then just seen him from afar.
- 56:16It just an absolute stud. I mean, eats pancakes out of his
- 56:20sweatshirt. He gotta like anybody like that
- 56:23and talk and he's tacos too. Oh yeah tacos.
- 56:27Yeah I mean it's Pizza. Just let's let's it out and
- 56:30doesn't care and but I think that's the manager that that
- 56:34needs to lead that team with the guys that they have.
- 56:36You know, they obviously you know have the talent there.
- 56:40But there's you know some young kids that come up you've got
- 56:43those guys in the Elders of the world that aren't the big raw
- 56:46rock kind of type guys and Murph is is that one and just a
- 56:50baseball dude just gritty just grinds and understands how to
- 56:55win and you saw obviously. The, you know, he's, he's had
- 56:59some injuries that every team has, but he's battled he's kind
- 57:01of navigated his way through the waters of getting guys healthy
- 57:05and and getting them in the right situation.
- 57:07So that that series, and its kind of, you know, funny Council
- 57:11going back back against the Brewers and seeing what they've
- 57:14got in. I just, I don't think that Cubs
- 57:17are deep enough. I think they're bats, are going
- 57:20to have to kind of pull him through.
- 57:21And like I said, these, these Midwest Cubs fans that can name
- 57:26like carry wooden Mark Pryor that don't have any idea who the
- 57:29heck is even on the team right now.
- 57:30When want to yell at you, like, oh, they're great this and
- 57:33another thing, but yeah, I got a couple buddies though that are
- 57:36true Die, Hard Cubs fans and, you know, they they got some
- 57:39arms back in palanci out of the bullpen and they they've used
- 57:42him in weird situations, which, you know, the postseason kind of
- 57:46just makes that happen sometimes.
- 57:48So I just don't think they have a deep enough lineup to be able
- 57:52to get to the Brewers, but you never know.
- 57:55The Cubs are the Cubs and and we Seen what council did with with
- 57:58the Brewers lineup, too, and they're kind of similar, but
- 58:01kind of not and, you know, he's, he's done those things before.
- 58:04So, this this series should be interesting, too.
- 58:07It's difficult, I think, when you had to maneuver the injury
- 58:09with Kate Horton and I think that kind of forced the hand of
- 58:12having to pitch Boyd on short rest.
- 58:14And obviously they didn't like you're saying like because they
- 58:17don't have the depth, they didn't really have a good backup
- 58:19plan if he ended up struggling and I think they got the run in
- 58:21the first inning with the Michael Bush home run, but it
- 58:24just fell apart after that and it's hard where there were
- 58:27another team like I was saying with Detroit, I don't know how
- 58:29much they're built for a longer series because of that.
- 58:32Now they're offense at their capabilities this year, we've
- 58:35seen them be a top five offense in baseball this year.
- 58:37It just a matter of which version of Kyle Tucker.
- 58:40Are you going to get? Pete crawl Armstrong.
- 58:42The last two months of the Season, really struggled to it.
- 58:44I think he had like a six, ninety eight Ops or something.
- 58:46The last two months of the year, there were instances where he
- 58:49was getting bench if he wasn't playing good defense a lot of
- 58:52the time so that type of offensive, Firepower, that you
- 58:56thought you had for a while, was still kind of stagnant.
- 58:59Now, they're pitching actually picked it up.
- 59:00I was worried. They didn't do enough after the
- 59:02deadline, but they picked it up the when they offense, was
- 59:04struggling. So they still were never in
- 59:05danger of missing the Playoffs. But It still was showing that
- 59:08they didn't really have that kind of identity.
- 59:10Now they last first round, they played a Padres team that was
- 59:13kind of top-heavy as well. They had pictures that were just
- 59:15coming back so I'm like okay they'll probably be fine to win
- 59:17that series with their offensive capabilities that they do have.
- 59:20And the top end pitching that can be strong.
- 59:23But it just for this type of series it was not as big of a
- 59:27depth piece and like the Brewers Java you were mentioning it with
- 59:30like you have all these different types of Pat Murphy.
- 59:33Trusts a lot of these types of young guys with the mentality
- 59:35that he has, and fish, you were mentioning statistically
- 59:37speaking, they have a lot of 15 guys, but they don't have a lot
- 59:40of guys that are gonna play, all the full-time, playing times
- 59:43somebody like free, like you mentioned, like he sometimes
- 59:46doesn't play on against certain splits.
- 59:48And, you know, a lot of these types of infielders in the same
- 59:50kind of boat too. Because they lost Willie, Thomas
- 59:52this offseason. And because of that, they just
- 59:55have a system that is very different where normally teams
- 59:58would build up the pitching depth, a lot more.
- 1:00:00The Brewers we would talk about a bunch of the demotions that
- 1:00:03they had this and the Young Guy's down and the more
- 1:00:05offensive guys will come up and it's just A system.
- 1:00:08That's a very unconventional for today's game, where in today's
- 1:00:10game you want to build up, more Bullpen, death, more pitching
- 1:00:13death, you can make the offense work over time.
- 1:00:14In the Brewers just did the opposite.
- 1:00:17Let's talk about the big series before we get out of this.
- 1:00:20The Dodgers in the Phillies Show here, Tani gets hit up for
- 1:00:25three. Runs in the first inning.
- 1:00:27Looks like the Phillies are going to be able to take the
- 1:00:29game. You've got to be able to win the
- 1:00:32game if you get to shohei ohtani because you know it's not gonna
- 1:00:34last, he was able to shut him down after that and then
- 1:00:38consistent playoff performer, the Oscar Hernandez with
- 1:00:43another, he's going off. He's too.
- 1:00:45He's two for three tonight. Two for three tonight they're
- 1:00:48winning four to one. Looks like we're getting up to a
- 1:00:50big at bad here. Kyle, schwarber's up with the
- 1:00:52man on one out in the 8th. It's 41.
- 1:00:54She hens in for Snell. I think they might be taking him
- 1:00:59out or they're talking to him on the mound, but I don't have the
- 1:01:02game up. Just looking at the game cast.
- 1:01:04That this Dodgers team. I think we all forgot that
- 1:01:08they're the best team in the league, because they've been
- 1:01:10banged up and having all the stuff you realize who they're
- 1:01:12closer is now. It's rookie Sasaki and he
- 1:01:16started 100 and 101. 101 100. And it's just like, oh yeah, we
- 1:01:22have this guy too. Oh, yeah, we paid this guy, too.
- 1:01:25Yeah, just a closer off the, he does better than most guys that
- 1:01:28you can even find anywhere in your system and they're bringing
- 1:01:32him in now. Snell is a Cy Young.
- 1:01:35He's awesome shohei. Ohtani awesome.
- 1:01:38The rest of their staff. I mean, if Clayton Kershaw is
- 1:01:42your worst guy that he doesn't even is he on the the DS roster
- 1:01:4590, Clayton Kershaw, and he had double, he had double-digit
- 1:01:50wins. Double-digit and a mid three
- 1:01:53era. You realize how good that team
- 1:01:56is? Man, it's crazy.
- 1:01:58They've got Mookie Betts and people forget that Mookie Betts
- 1:02:01is there, just because he was a little down this year.
- 1:02:03You forget, remember, he had that weird stomach thing,
- 1:02:05beginning of the year and he lost like 50 pounds, lost like
- 1:02:0720 pounds or something. It was something ridiculous.
- 1:02:09And guess what? He made it through the whole
- 1:02:12season. He's just fine.
- 1:02:13He could play any position. I think in tired game,
- 1:02:16basically, maybe except catcher. They got ohtani, which is gonna
- 1:02:20win the NFL MVP. You got Hernandez.
- 1:02:22Freddie, Freeman, you forgot about him.
- 1:02:23He's one of the best first baseman, the last decade.
- 1:02:27And then they have all these other role players, Andy pajes,
- 1:02:30who has been this great, you know, Revelation in the outfield
- 1:02:34for them and then they've got. Kiki Hernandez is just always
- 1:02:36there in the playoffs finds a way to me always finds himself
- 1:02:40in the middle of it. Some like somewhere he hasn't
- 1:02:44had a good year but you know he'll get involved Maxx Muncie,
- 1:02:47same thing, you know, those guys are going to get involved, they
- 1:02:49got unlimited money, they just do, it's crazy.
- 1:02:52It's not fair. And even the Phillies who have a
- 1:02:56great roster who have great pitching all, the they did lose
- 1:02:59that wheeler and I think that's probably the difference is,
- 1:03:02they're gonna need, they need everything to play with this
- 1:03:05Dodgers team. I think these are the two best
- 1:03:07teams in baseball, and I don't think it's, I don't even know if
- 1:03:10it's close. The Phillies Were My World
- 1:03:13Series pick at the start of the year, because it felt like a
- 1:03:15team that had the right mixture of a playoff identity combined
- 1:03:18with the veterans combined with on basement machine.
- 1:03:21And I got teams that walk a lot and they're kind of doing the
- 1:03:24opposite of that. You're seeing them swinging,
- 1:03:25first pitch all the time now and It just counterintuitive to what
- 1:03:29they're supposed to be as an identity.
- 1:03:31Like you can you can swing first pitch.
- 1:03:33Like you look at a team like the Brewers that have all these like
- 1:03:36more of the power hitter, less of the power, hitters and more
- 1:03:39the on base guys. That just get on base and swing
- 1:03:42first pitch that kind of identity Works.
- 1:03:43Jabba The Royal CMU played with was a lot like that, a swinging,
- 1:03:46first pitch type of team and it worked for the way they were
- 1:03:49trying to play baseball. I don't think the Phillies are
- 1:03:51like that yet. They're trying to be like that
- 1:03:52swinging. First pitch all the time and it
- 1:03:54doesn't make as much sense. Now, there are points of the
- 1:03:56game where it's like, oh Tony like are they going to be able
- 1:03:58to get to him because he's trying to pitch and hit the same
- 1:04:01time. I was questioning if pitching
- 1:04:03him game, one was the right strategy compared to maybe later
- 1:04:06in the series. Maybe go for a game three and
- 1:04:08maybe a game six type of art, not game six.
- 1:04:10But maybe out of the bullpen for a game, five type of approach
- 1:04:13would have been what have been that?
- 1:04:16To make sense, I don't know. But it looked like he was
- 1:04:18getting roughed up early and it affected his heading.
- 1:04:21So I was surprised, they were able to make that work.
- 1:04:22But match strong. He's struck out four times that
- 1:04:26game, right? Yeah, okay.
- 1:04:28And then I want to get to this reliever to match stromal.
- 1:04:32I thought was a good reliever for a while even when he's going
- 1:04:35back to what the Padres. He's been, really bad in the
- 1:04:36playoffs, even when he was with the Padres against the Philly.
- 1:04:38And then last year, he was really bad against the Mets.
- 1:04:41And yet, they're still trusting him in a lot of high levels
- 1:04:43situation and a job you were talking about tipping pitches
- 1:04:45before to there was a accusations of that and you
- 1:04:48can't do that kind of thing against it offensive and a
- 1:04:51system. That's so good.
- 1:04:51Like the Dodgers, like the Dodgers.
- 1:04:53Yeah you could say they could spend the money, all you want
- 1:04:55but The conceptually like they've gotten, like a lot of
- 1:04:59these little nuances. Analytically very strong too and
- 1:05:02Player Development wise, rebirthing all these players
- 1:05:05like look at somebody like Michael kopech last year, that
- 1:05:07was a big part of their role was what top pitching Prospect with
- 1:05:09the White Sox. Couldn't get anything going and
- 1:05:11there they do. All the little things everyone
- 1:05:14says, oh they just spend money to do all that.
- 1:05:16No, it's they're doing all the little things to make it work
- 1:05:18and now there's proving that Again, I they are the most
- 1:05:22talented team when they're healthy.
- 1:05:23I thought just being it's hard to repeat being the Phillies.
- 1:05:26I think that I thought they had a core that was closed for a
- 1:05:28while and I think the order their window is closing.
- 1:05:30So they're gonna lose a lot in the offseason and I thought it
- 1:05:33was the year for them, but they're gonna have to prove a
- 1:05:35lot of this Bullpen if they're gonna have any shot to win this
- 1:05:37game. And then the series rolling,
- 1:05:40Yeah, I mean Dodgers too. It's funny.
- 1:05:43They always say, oh, you just bought a championship.
- 1:05:46I mean, they said that to us and oh nine.
- 1:05:49You still got to go out and perform, you still got to do
- 1:05:51whatever you want to call him, Double D's or whatever and not
- 1:05:55those type of Double D's you. Write the Deferred Dodgers or
- 1:06:02whatever, whatever people are calling him.
- 1:06:03They still have to go out and execute and score more runs and
- 1:06:08not let the other team score. So let's not let's not forget
- 1:06:11that. They Are really really good at
- 1:06:14that. And they have a really, really
- 1:06:16good lineup and really, really good arms.
- 1:06:18I mean the crazy part to me is it's the first time ever.
- 1:06:22In baseball history starter get the win and a Japanese closer,
- 1:06:26get a save. And that's that's great for
- 1:06:28baseball. Like, that is an absolutely
- 1:06:30great for baseball. It's great for these young kids
- 1:06:32that, you know, know that they can have a chance, you know, and
- 1:06:35and play. And that's not just a Japanese.
- 1:06:37We're talking about all over the world.
- 1:06:39Having these guys from everywhere, to, to know that
- 1:06:43you're, you can have a chance to play and play Big situations.
- 1:06:46It's been really cool and I think it's, it's awesome to see
- 1:06:49not awesome if you are a Phillies fan but but it's great
- 1:06:55for the game and it's just the Dodgers are just They can beat
- 1:07:00you from top to bottom and it's they can be beat you with speed.
- 1:07:03They can be beat you with clutching and Homer's.
- 1:07:06And then I mean when you got a guy You know that can literally,
- 1:07:10you know, throw 100, and go hit a homer, and then you got a guy,
- 1:07:14it's like, oh, let's make him a closer.
- 1:07:15Oh, okay, then it's like, oh, we paid a guy 160 million, but he's
- 1:07:20been hurt but let's let's throw him out of the bullpen.
- 1:07:22So yeah, they have a they have a plethora of options to beach you
- 1:07:27and they're going to be tough to be if they're kicking on all
- 1:07:30cylinders. It's going to be an interesting
- 1:07:33rest of the series. It's in the top of the ninth
- 1:07:35right now. Looks like the Dodgers are in
- 1:07:37the driver's seat. They'll bring in Sasaki throwing
- 1:07:40101. Probably the know he wasn't
- 1:07:42warming up. It was trying to Help.
- 1:07:44Yeah. He's not bad either though, you
- 1:07:46know? No, it was, it was.
- 1:07:48Yeah. Trying to invest, you were
- 1:07:50warming up. Oh, yeah, whatever.
- 1:07:51We'll give, we'll give Sasaki. Yeah.
- 1:07:53Which, which one do you want? Sorry.
- 1:07:55Sorry we got options. My bad trying to lead the league
- 1:07:59in like saves for like three years in a row like man hours
- 1:08:03thinking, yeah, we're good. It's it's just amazing.
- 1:08:06Well before we get into more stuff of baseball and we do have
- 1:08:10our guests in. We'll talk about, we'll talk to
- 1:08:12him in a little bit after our break, but before the break,
- 1:08:15today's golf club of the day, All right, so I guess we didn't
- 1:08:29get the the graphic for that might be my mistake, but here we
- 1:08:32are in the golf clap of the day. Today's golf club today goes to
- 1:08:36WNBA. Commissioner Cathy Engelbert on
- 1:08:40Friday, a report came out on ESPN that said there were a lot
- 1:08:44of inaccuracies in the comments injured, Minnesota, Lynx, star
- 1:08:48and MVP runner-up. The fisa colour said, completely
- 1:08:51trashing the commissioner for quote unquote, the worst
- 1:08:55leadership in the world, amongst other things, she had to say
- 1:08:59about her. The biggest bone of contention
- 1:09:01was that Engelbert denied telling Colour that WNBA players
- 1:09:05including Caitlin Clark should be on their knees in gratitude
- 1:09:09for the platform platform, the league has given the women
- 1:09:12Englebert said, she was confident she could repair the
- 1:09:16trust of the league. Despite virtually the entire
- 1:09:18league supporting Colliers. Comments, Cathy Engelbert may be
- 1:09:22the last person to realize it, but it's time for her to step
- 1:09:26down. I sort of apology, I guess.
- 1:09:28But for tonight's golf Clap, the goes to the commissioner of the
- 1:09:32W for not much longer. Probably.
- 1:09:35There you go. Golf, clap, golf clap for Miss
- 1:09:39Engelbert. And there it is.
- 1:09:41Susan, idiot. It's pretty pretty terrible.
- 1:09:44We are so we'll be so here it is.
- 1:09:48Golf clap of the day. After a short break we are going
- 1:09:52to have on fan side is content director, Thomas Karen nante.
- 1:09:57But first the Sportsman it with Tommy schools.
- 1:10:03And the mouth Sportsman's. All right, all right, all right,
- 1:10:10ladies and gentlemen, how is it going?
- 1:10:12This is Tommy Scoops once again with the loud house Sportsman.
- 1:10:16And finally, in for fish, as the fish cast is ongoing, ladies and
- 1:10:21gentlemen, I have some NFL NFL stories loaded for you guys
- 1:10:24today and starting off with Mark Sanchez, former butt fumble ear,
- 1:10:29former New York, Jets quarterback, whatever you want
- 1:10:32to consider him. Former NFL quarterback and fox
- 1:10:35analyst Mark Sanchez was actually charged with felony
- 1:10:38battery after a weekend altercation over in
- 1:10:41Indianapolis. Now authorities, say that
- 1:10:43Sanchez was actually stabbed after he allegedly drunkenly
- 1:10:46confronted, a 69 year old man, Sanchez.
- 1:10:49The Fox Sports commentator is also facing three misdemeanor.
- 1:10:53He was also facing three. Misdemeanor, charges three,
- 1:10:57misdemeanor counts, battery with injury, public, and talking and
- 1:11:00unlawful. Entrance of a vehicle.
- 1:11:03Sanchez, was initially charged with a string of misdemeanors
- 1:11:06before Marion County prosecutor? Brian mirrors, announced that he
- 1:11:10would that the one-time New York Jets starter would actually face
- 1:11:14a. Felony charge battery involving
- 1:11:16serious bodily injuries now, Indianapolis Metropolitan
- 1:11:19Department, police chief, Chris Bailey actually commented on the
- 1:11:24situation saying, I want to be clear about this.
- 1:11:26I do not care where you live. I do not care what you do for a
- 1:11:30living. I do not care whatsoever.
- 1:11:33If you come into our city and commit violence, we will use all
- 1:11:36the tools in our research, so hold you accountable.
- 1:11:39Mark, Sanchez is actually facing up six years to jail if
- 1:11:43convicted and should get the butt fumble conviction that he
- 1:11:47most likely will. Anyway, switching over into some
- 1:11:50more NFL conversation over in the Raiders, the Portland Trail
- 1:11:54Blazers wherever you want to consider it because Portland
- 1:11:56Trail Blazer point guard. Damian Lillard actually wants
- 1:11:59the Raiders. The Las Vegas, Raiders to trade
- 1:12:02for rookie Browns. Rookie QB shoulder Sanders.
- 1:12:06A QB that we have mentioned over and over again on this.
- 1:12:08Joe. Now Lillard has said after after
- 1:12:12a coupled with the Raiders blowout loss, this past week,
- 1:12:15over against the against the Colts 40 to 6, lollipop to say
- 1:12:20that the Raiders team would benefit with Raiders as opposed
- 1:12:24with with the shoulder on the team as opposed to Geno Smith
- 1:12:28who actually leads the league with nine plus interceptions and
- 1:12:32actually had himself quite the game in a very negative way
- 1:12:35against the Indianapolis Colts Geno Smith.
- 1:12:38I am talking about. So whatever Pete Carroll in
- 1:12:41Vegas actually decides. NBA point guarding Lillard is
- 1:12:43all four shoulder Sanders, actually going and being shipped
- 1:12:48over to Las Vegas and finishing over with our more quarterback
- 1:12:52news. Some more quarterback news over
- 1:12:54in Cincinnati, I should say, as Zach Taylor, who was the, of
- 1:12:58course, the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals said that he
- 1:13:00is not completely sold on QB. Jake Browning.
- 1:13:03As of course, the new seat, the new game coming up with the,
- 1:13:07with the brown, with the Bangles.
- 1:13:09Browning who has actually played 16 games for the Cincinnati and
- 1:13:12his filling in for an injured, Joe burrow who actually will be
- 1:13:15back until 3 to 4 months from. Now, the team is actually not
- 1:13:19sold on Jack. Jake, Browning and head coach.
- 1:13:22Zach, Taylor actually is going to be exercising.
- 1:13:25Some options going into their next game against the Packers
- 1:13:28next week. So honestly, there could be a
- 1:13:32very high chance that Jake Browning who was actually played
- 1:13:35quite a lot for the injured. Joe burrow might not be in the
- 1:13:39starting rotation as a quarterback for this upcoming
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- 1:16:10with our guests, but it's baseball season is playoff
- 1:16:12season and we have On fan sided. Content director, the co-host of
- 1:16:20the Yanks goyard podcast. You can follow him on X at
- 1:16:24Tommy's underscore takes as he's shown right here on the camera.
- 1:16:27It is Thomas, Karen nante, join us today.
- 1:16:31How we doing? Tommy good, man, what's up,
- 1:16:34boys? It's a pleasure to be here,
- 1:16:35thanks for having me. I thought, you know, Tommy
- 1:16:38Scoops was on to something. I was getting ready to tune into
- 1:16:40the Yanks and saying, oh, this is the night, they're gonna put
- 1:16:43me away. But yeah, man, I'm watching I
- 1:16:46was watching the Dodgers and I'm just sitting here being like
- 1:16:49Wish that was the Yankees. That was like the Yankees of 25
- 1:16:52years ago and now we're just watching it passed us by It
- 1:16:56certainly seems like they're a juggernaut, right?
- 1:16:58It just seems like the way that they're playing that, they like,
- 1:17:01oh yeah, you know, we got three guys.
- 1:17:02That could be closers. Whatever.
- 1:17:04One of them didn't play All Season, he thought he was gonna
- 1:17:06start. It's all right.
- 1:17:07We'll just put them in the ninth inning.
- 1:17:08He'll throw 101, and they'll be our closer.
- 1:17:10It's fine. We have those guys.
- 1:17:13Why not? We'll just defer money.
- 1:17:15It doesn't matter. We just want to win
- 1:17:17championships. I wish the Yankees were doing
- 1:17:19that. I bet.
- 1:17:20Don't you think George Steinbrenner?
- 1:17:21If he was alive today would have been jumping on this deferred
- 1:17:24money trick, I don't know. Yeah, you'd have to think so,
- 1:17:27but you know, you look back on all the things George
- 1:17:30Steinbrenner. Did he be making the right
- 1:17:32deferred deals? I don't know.
- 1:17:33I hope so. But yeah, I mean like the
- 1:17:38Dodgers have that perfect mix of the aggression and spotting the
- 1:17:43personnel and to me, you know, just watching the Yankees for I
- 1:17:47started covering baseball back in 2014 so it was like in that
- 1:17:51no man's land era for the Yankees Jeter's last year. and
- 1:17:55then ever since They've started contending again in 2017 to now.
- 1:18:00It's like, Seems like a Personnel issue with them and
- 1:18:03can't put your finger on it, you don't really know.
- 1:18:05But I know there's always fans out there.
- 1:18:07Wishing George Steinbrenner was still there and I'm like, oh
- 1:18:10there could have been a lot of disaster deals based on the bad
- 1:18:13contracts. We've seen given out by the rest
- 1:18:14of the league, so who knows what free agency would have been in
- 1:18:17on it that at that point in time.
- 1:18:19But yeah, man. It's, it's tough to watch a team
- 1:18:23like that, you know, deliver like tasks or Hernandez did in
- 1:18:27game one and then they just, they apply the pressure.
- 1:18:29And they have, they have talent that every corner of the roster
- 1:18:32that you can't seem to avoid. Yeah, I want to ask about the
- 1:18:35pitching was in particular with the with the with the starters
- 1:18:37that we've seen this series, obviously, you had better
- 1:18:39pitching. Look at the Red Sox game 3, but
- 1:18:42the struggles that they had both Penn more game, one and then
- 1:18:46backs, free to have probably his worst start of the year and game
- 1:18:49too. Like what did you see from this
- 1:18:51is more on them? Or is it more on the Blue Jays
- 1:18:53offense? Just goin' coming out.
- 1:18:56It's a good question and I I don't really know because the
- 1:18:59Yankees have just been downright bad at the Rogers Center this
- 1:19:02year, don't know what it is. I think I think when you're in,
- 1:19:08when you're in a situation to have a bullpen game and game
- 1:19:11one, you're you're at a disadvantage because the Blue
- 1:19:15Jays have the rest time and they were able to go out you with
- 1:19:18Kevin Gossman. So I feel like if the Yankees
- 1:19:20were able to steal game one, that would have been the biggest
- 1:19:23bonus possible. They would have been in the best
- 1:19:24position imaginable at that. Point game, two was just, that
- 1:19:29was where it was bad. Max freed, doesn't have his best
- 1:19:34stuff, you can't. Really, I can at least, I can't
- 1:19:37blame him because it's his first year in Pinstripes.
- 1:19:40Again, you're asking a lot of what the Yankees are doing man,
- 1:19:43is that they're, they're asking the pitchers to go out there and
- 1:19:46be perfect with what the offense is doing, which is really where
- 1:19:49I think the issue lies. The less margin, they're not
- 1:19:52playing relaxed. There's a razor thin margin for
- 1:19:54error. Freed was a little bit of
- 1:19:56execution. He was having trouble locating
- 1:19:58for a good portion. For me, it comes down to.
- 1:20:01I think the Blue Jays were obviously, well, rested and
- 1:20:04pumped and excited to go into. Look everybody.
- 1:20:07Hates playing the Yankees so all our opponents have that extra
- 1:20:09juice in them but when they when we didn't have a Bonafide game
- 1:20:15one starter going in the first one, then I put all the pressure
- 1:20:17on freed and I Think It's just tough for anybody to handle that
- 1:20:20job knows as a picture. Yeah, I mean it's it I didn't
- 1:20:25really know what they were gonna do.
- 1:20:27Who were they gonna use? I don't know if that was a a
- 1:20:30number saying a kind of, however, they decided to to use
- 1:20:35and in that situation but they haven't given up 23 runs ever,
- 1:20:40like in There's been you know, the the woes of Aaron judge and
- 1:20:45and all that but he's he has four hits.
- 1:20:48He's leading leading the team this year and hits.
- 1:20:50What like I feel like there's something missing and we and we
- 1:20:54touched on this earlier, like, we don't need a raw meeting.
- 1:20:57Like if we need a meeting in October, then we obviously
- 1:21:00aren't doing well. We need to do in the first place
- 1:21:03like Do you think there's some kind of Disconnect in like?
- 1:21:09Trying to rely on Judge Too Much where other dudes are like, and
- 1:21:12we know guys are good in the playoffs where you're waiting
- 1:21:16for him to go before. Everybody else goes because
- 1:21:18sometimes then it's like, okay, he's going now, they're not.
- 1:21:21Well he ain't going now. Everybody else starts going.
- 1:21:23Like they never seem to to cohesively go together and I
- 1:21:27don't, I don't know what what's missing there.
- 1:21:30It's again it's it's the the calendar flips to October and
- 1:21:34you see a completely different team almost and it's not just
- 1:21:37this iteration of the roster, right?
- 1:21:39This is been some version of it since I mean, really a 2017 was
- 1:21:44an Aaron, boom, but that year, the offense was the reason they
- 1:21:47didn't get past the Astro and obviously the cheating.
- 1:21:49But the offense was the biggest reason there because they were
- 1:21:53unable to produce any. They were unable to produce
- 1:21:55runs, and they didn't have and like a dominant pitching staff
- 1:21:59that year looking everything. Since Aaron judge, Aaron Boone,
- 1:22:03dating back to 2018. if they have that disconnect like your
- 1:22:10Alluding to like the potential of everybody like looking around
- 1:22:12waiting for someone like judge that would be organizational and
- 1:22:19organizational issue because they have gone through so many
- 1:22:21different iterations of this roster.
- 1:22:23They've put so many different pieces around judge.
- 1:22:25I know, John Carlos Stanton's been the main constant over that
- 1:22:30time period, but he has carried the team on two different
- 1:22:33occasions. One was last year, the other was
- 1:22:362020, they didn't make it out of 2020 because of the rest of the
- 1:22:39lineup. Not being able to come through
- 1:22:41and some late Bullpen meltdowns. But for everybody to not be
- 1:22:47dialed in themselves and looking at Aaron judge, I think that
- 1:22:51would be a very weird kind of cosmic issue and it very much
- 1:22:57could be because whatever the Personnel is the Yankees are
- 1:23:00acquiring over these last few years.
- 1:23:03You do have that lack of you know Killer Instinct stepping
- 1:23:06up. I know it's It's easier to say
- 1:23:08for people who have watched baseball years ago because now
- 1:23:10hitting you know, easily the hardest thing to do.
- 1:23:13And in any sport at this point and I think he is a content
- 1:23:18creator job at you played. So you've been around these guys
- 1:23:20and stuff like that but, you know, changing your approach
- 1:23:22when somebody's throwing 100 miles an hour, it's like you can
- 1:23:25only do that. So successfully when you're
- 1:23:27facing, you know, when you have so few opportunities.
- 1:23:29So we do look at it at a lens where I think we acknowledge how
- 1:23:34difficult that is, but also at the same time, like where is the
- 1:23:38differentiating player profiles in the offense in the Yankees, I
- 1:23:42think it's the redundancy with the power and the Reliance on
- 1:23:45the Home Run ball. Because in theory, the second
- 1:23:49judge starts producing at all the rest of the offense should
- 1:23:53start going, and he was actually getting hits in the Wild Card
- 1:23:57series. And the offense didn't really
- 1:23:58respond as emphatically as we had thoughts.
- 1:24:00So I really don't know what it is.
- 1:24:02I to me, I have to chalk it up to a Personnel issue from, you
- 1:24:06know, going all the way back to the front office and who they're
- 1:24:09targeting every offseason or or in trade talks.
- 1:24:12But I feel like it's a mystery and I don't know what you guys
- 1:24:16think, but we've watched a lot of Yankees baseball and it's
- 1:24:19it's hard to pinpoint it. You know, we in actually, before
- 1:24:24we get into it, we are being joined by Thomas carannante fan,
- 1:24:28sided, content director, co-host of the Yanks goyard podcast.
- 1:24:31Follow him at Tommy unjust Tommy's underscore takes on X.
- 1:24:35I got a question for you related to what you're saying, because a
- 1:24:39lot of fans, myself included have give a lot of blame to
- 1:24:42Aaron Boone this season. Some of it's overblown, some of
- 1:24:45its not on my end. I can't understand some of this
- 1:24:49season decisions. He's made this postseason, like
- 1:24:51leaving Rodan in and game two in the Wild Card series.
- 1:24:54When he clearly lost it got that one pitch.
- 1:24:56Double hit double play. And then he brought him back and
- 1:24:58he couldn't you know he's threw him throwing wild pitches and he
- 1:25:01gets two guys on and then we lose the lead.
- 1:25:04I mean, we came back, but that wasn't a great decision and then
- 1:25:07he continues to bring Luke Weaver in in tight spots and he
- 1:25:12hasn't gotten out this entire postseason.
- 1:25:15You know, with the rule that you got to face three batters, it's
- 1:25:18just three guys getting on against Luke Weaver because he's
- 1:25:21trying to stop this tipping of the pitches.
- 1:25:23We talked about it earlier tonight.
- 1:25:25I don't know if you can fix that you know on the Fly under
- 1:25:28postseason pressure. So my question to you is what do
- 1:25:32you think is on Boone and what common criticism should be
- 1:25:36directed elsewhere. Yeah, I think there it's time
- 1:25:40and consequence for some of these things, right?
- 1:25:42So like I look at this postseason and I think the the
- 1:25:48one blame you can put on Boone for what's happened so far is
- 1:25:52that he he misjudged when taking out freed slash bringing in
- 1:25:57Weaver which you just mentioned and leaving Rhode Island in for
- 1:26:01too long. And then I think the biggest
- 1:26:02obviously in hindsight now the biggest issue was yesterday
- 1:26:07bringing in will Warren as early as he did.
- 1:26:09Because at that point you got to just get out of the inning.
- 1:26:12You can't have the damage Mount and will warrant is not, he's
- 1:26:16just not prime for that opportunity.
- 1:26:17He's not a reliever, he hasn't pitched in a week.
- 1:26:19He's going up against the Blue Jays in this pressure pack
- 1:26:22situation trying to stop you know from getting the team
- 1:26:26stomped on and it just wasn't it.
- 1:26:27You need someone to get you out of there and then look the
- 1:26:29offense score is seven runs and if you hold them to six in that
- 1:26:33inning, you might have a different ball game.
- 1:26:34Who knows? The other side of the coin is
- 1:26:38like, He doesn't have that many weapons, right?
- 1:26:41I think a lot of times, all of us collectively we get on him
- 1:26:44for making the wrong Bullpen decision.
- 1:26:46And I think that was more validating in years prior this
- 1:26:51year, it's not, it's hard for him to make the right choice
- 1:26:54every single night because of the limited options.
- 1:26:58He's had. And like David Bednar, is the
- 1:27:02only one who you're saying. This guy's getting me three
- 1:27:04outs. Everybody else is. don't know
- 1:27:08what's going to happen and for You, we could sit here and say,
- 1:27:12the blame for bringing in Weaver, both in game, one of the
- 1:27:16Sox series because of how bad he had been in September and then
- 1:27:19him being the first guy you go to in that razor-thin lead
- 1:27:23against the Blue Jays was was Troublesome because that guy's
- 1:27:29not delivering from you. At that point, you're going to
- 1:27:31have to Pivot. I don't know what the answer is
- 1:27:33because I think if Devin Williams comes in and melts
- 1:27:37down, I you know you don't know what social media is going to
- 1:27:40look like those people are going.
- 1:27:41Insane said oh this was the choice so I think it's it's a
- 1:27:46can't win situation with bun right now.
- 1:27:48In terms of the bullpen management In terms of the
- 1:27:53messaging, and I think the trusting of the starters, that's
- 1:27:56where really my, that's where I would assess the blame.
- 1:28:00So you look at the offense, obviously, it's been years and
- 1:28:05years and years of them lacking preparedness or just not rising
- 1:28:08to the occasion. Yes, that falls on the players.
- 1:28:11But at some point I feel like the manager has to figure out a
- 1:28:14way to interject till light something, under the guys who
- 1:28:16are not coming through, whether that be through lineup changes
- 1:28:21or what have you we talked you know the Anthony Volpe
- 1:28:24conversation. I think is something that
- 1:28:26relates to this a little bit but not fully.
- 1:28:28It's like showing that there is discipline To go around when
- 1:28:34you're not performing. And I'm not saying discipline
- 1:28:36somebody in the postseason, but you had warning signs of some of
- 1:28:40these other things happening in the regular season.
- 1:28:42If there was more of a Stern, I think management type of
- 1:28:46approach players might be more inclined to step up or they
- 1:28:49might be better condition to step up is probably the best way
- 1:28:52to put it. So I think throughout the
- 1:28:55regular season, Boom deserves the blame for maybe the summer
- 1:29:00Swoon that lasted almost three months.
- 1:29:02That if they win one more game, the Blue Jays are at Yankee
- 1:29:05Stadium for these first, two games.
- 1:29:07And they're and the Yankees aren't in Toronto where they've
- 1:29:09been having trouble all year. So I think, Into and there's
- 1:29:15also final Point here, it's tough to kind of pinpoint what
- 1:29:18the decisions Boons making right because you know the game one
- 1:29:22lineup of the Red Sox series was not Aaron Boone.
- 1:29:26I think that was probably Brian Cashman and you don't know what
- 1:29:30calls are being made from the front office to The Dugout when
- 1:29:33Max freed gets Jarren Duran in the first out of the seventh.
- 1:29:37So it's really tough to pinpoint but I guess the only thing that
- 1:29:42bun would be able to control is the energy and the messaging and
- 1:29:47the preparedness in the approach and that's where I think
- 1:29:50oftentimes in bigger moments this team is lacking.
- 1:29:53So I want to shift to the front office perspective of with cash
- 1:29:56and with us, some of the executives too.
- 1:29:58Like a lot of people were questioning what the trade
- 1:29:59deadline with the Yankees, like a Medford, Zario Ryan McMahon or
- 1:30:02kind of like these bench players.
- 1:30:04I like Duval at the time I would have been wrong on that too,
- 1:30:07because I, yeah, I always thought he had good stuff.
- 1:30:09And then obviously been an artist worked out, but you see
- 1:30:11teams like Seattle that are very aggressive.
- 1:30:13At the deadline, when they did kind of bolstering their lineup.
- 1:30:16And obviously, there are there extremes like my New York Mets,
- 1:30:20unfortunately, that created everything and didn't.
- 1:30:22And those times all those guys, I'll be boss.
- 1:30:25So what do you think? Is there a movie like you would
- 1:30:27have made it if you were the Yankees, that maybe would have a
- 1:30:29bolster them to maybe get the division title, or even get a
- 1:30:33better playoff identity. You mean at the trade deadline?
- 1:30:36Yeah. Yeah, so that's tough.
- 1:30:39I thought a lot of what was available at the trade deadline
- 1:30:42was, you know, just setting up rival Executives to overpay for
- 1:30:46something that they weren't necessarily going to get the
- 1:30:49value that they needed from it. I think the biggest problem was,
- 1:30:52for example, coming into this season with essentially, no
- 1:30:55starting third baseman, and no bench.
- 1:30:57And then that force them to make all the moves that they had to
- 1:31:00make up the trade deadline, as opposed to them using the trade
- 1:31:05deadline. If this makes sense as kind of a
- 1:31:09luxury item to acquire one or two more players, whether
- 1:31:13pitching positional that are going to get you over the hump
- 1:31:16and make you a juggernaut A little I think a good comparison
- 1:31:21is like with the Dodgers did in 2021 when they got Max Scherzer
- 1:31:24and trade Turner like that opportunity was not there this
- 1:31:26year, I understand that. But that's how the Yankees
- 1:31:29should be treating the trade deadline and ever since like,
- 1:31:322021 when they traded for Anthony Rizzo, they've kind of
- 1:31:35used the trade deadline out of necessity to repair the roster
- 1:31:39in the middle of the year. So then at that point, it's a
- 1:31:42tale of two rosters. You go with whatever you have on
- 1:31:47opening day. And then you say, oh well, you
- 1:31:49know, three, four, these guys will be gone four or five of
- 1:31:52these guys will be gone at the parade deadline and then you're
- 1:31:54talking about working in a whole new mix of players.
- 1:31:56So they're honestly, wasn't anybody that I would have gone
- 1:32:01overboard for at the trade deadline?
- 1:32:03I like this team a lot. It just came down to execution
- 1:32:06and then being able to weather the storm for the long season,
- 1:32:08the mist and I thought, also all these other moves were good.
- 1:32:12Like, I like Ryan McMahon a lot, the third Beast defense, he's
- 1:32:15been providing has been game saving if we had.
- 1:32:19I don't, I think if we had anybody else, there were looking
- 1:32:21at a different situation for either the playoff seeding, or
- 1:32:25Our Fate in the wild cards here. He's I think Rosario was a great
- 1:32:28bench option to acquire as a platoon guy.
- 1:32:33Bednar was a huge acquisition. I think you're right, too, like
- 1:32:37everyone was on board with doval at that time.
- 1:32:39It just didn't work out. And who knows he couldn't end up
- 1:32:44being okay, he's under Club control.
- 1:32:45But, yeah, I think the biggest, the biggest issue is the lack of
- 1:32:51personnel when they're heading into the trade deadline.
- 1:32:54Because most other years they're not making transformative
- 1:32:57decisions, like they did this year, most of the years they're
- 1:32:59going, they're getting one or two more guys and then they're
- 1:33:02kind of Calling it Quits and it's not enough for what they
- 1:33:04need. They how to put this, it's I've
- 1:33:12heard everybody's kind of thoughts on it from you know
- 1:33:15Mark finds and to everybody you know mine.
- 1:33:20Sweep happens. Let's just let's just foresee.
- 1:33:23Its what happens in the offices? is I don't think there's, I
- 1:33:28don't think they're unloading anybody, I don't think as far as
- 1:33:31front office that is And then do they make a push for another
- 1:33:37Bullpen guy? Do they try and get a free
- 1:33:39agent? As far as an infielders?
- 1:33:42Like what where do you see if if it happens tomorrow what, what
- 1:33:48would you like to see the offseason look like Compared to
- 1:33:52what you think. It'll look like Man, I haven't
- 1:33:56even thought that far because I thought for a second on
- 1:33:58Thursday, that we'd be doing something special because, you
- 1:34:00know, eliminating the Red Sox like that was huge.
- 1:34:02You kind of felt the weight off your shoulders when that
- 1:34:06happened because of how How traumatizing it's been since
- 1:34:11since 2004, but I think for what first of all bones, not going
- 1:34:16anywhere for anybody listening here, I know that that's
- 1:34:18probably number one on a lot of people's lists.
- 1:34:21It ain't happening. You might be lucky if it's after
- 1:34:232026, when he has an option on his contract after next season.
- 1:34:28So then, at that point, depending on how next year
- 1:34:32transpires, they'll make a decision there for this
- 1:34:35offseason, they And this is where I'm also conflicted
- 1:34:40because of how the host season has gone down.
- 1:34:43Like now I am a little bit confused you bring back Trent
- 1:34:46person, and Cody Bellinger We talked about for a couple weeks
- 1:34:52on the anxiety yard podcast about giving him the qualifying
- 1:34:56offer and then you have your Outfield picture for another
- 1:34:59year. You give him an opportunity to
- 1:35:01earn a lot and then hit free agency.
- 1:35:02Again, you don't have to get locked into a long-term packed
- 1:35:06and I think Bellinger even though the postseason
- 1:35:09performance wasn't there so far in it, you know, honestly in an
- 1:35:13abbreviated five games, it's hard to judge people like that.
- 1:35:15I think you kind of do have to bring him back because of how
- 1:35:19intrinsic he was to the rest of the lineup.
- 1:35:22He was important in terms of having the Yankees remain
- 1:35:26relevant, if his bats not there, I'm not sure again, we're not
- 1:35:31where we are without him and I I don't think free agency again.
- 1:35:36The Yankees don't go out and dish out a lot of long-term
- 1:35:40contracts for big name players. So even if there were like a
- 1:35:44generational Talent available, this Off season.
- 1:35:49I think now that the fact that they just paid Max freed on a
- 1:35:52deal like that, they're going to be conservative in their
- 1:35:55approach. They're going to figure out how
- 1:35:56to get either shorter term deals or acquire, guys, through
- 1:36:00trades. Now that they're Farm systems
- 1:36:03been a little bit more, highly regarded by the outlets after
- 1:36:05their last couple drafts and international free agency
- 1:36:08periods. But yeah, I mean the biggest
- 1:36:10thing for me is I think the rotation's fine.
- 1:36:13I don't think you have to do anything with that.
- 1:36:15You got cold returning. Cam schlittler is obviously
- 1:36:19going to be the guy hopefully for years to come.
- 1:36:22The bullpen is really the issue here.
- 1:36:24I think you got to get two relievers who are capable of
- 1:36:28being flexible in hitting seven through nine.
- 1:36:32And again, I don't know who that's going to be.
- 1:36:34I don't know who's gonna be available in the offseason.
- 1:36:36We have to wait for kind of prices on a lot of these guys to
- 1:36:39normalize, as we get closer to the winter meetings, and then I
- 1:36:43think you need I don't know. A couple more contacts.
- 1:36:48I feel like we say that, we say this every offseason but what's
- 1:36:52Anthony volpe's future? I'm not sure.
- 1:36:56What's the platoon going to be like with Ben rice and Austin
- 1:37:00Wells? I think that they're going to
- 1:37:04make it work with all their young players.
- 1:37:06I think there was overblown chadder.
- 1:37:08I think of, you know, rumors that they might Bob, klapisch
- 1:37:11wrote about it. He said that their their there
- 1:37:13may be a possibility, they explore a trade, but I don't
- 1:37:16know who's gonna acquire him. And I don't think that's of the
- 1:37:19Yankees mindset to get rid of the Homegrown player like that,
- 1:37:22but they do have to improve their Bullpen for sure.
- 1:37:27Because that's been a strength of theirs that they've kind of
- 1:37:30let go this year. And then they need more of like
- 1:37:37Ah, the best way to put it is like, jock Peterson, ask guys
- 1:37:40from like 2021 2022. The guys who can come off the
- 1:37:43bench and give you in a bat in a big spot.
- 1:37:45Oftentimes, Adam wine rib and I my co-host on the executor
- 1:37:51podcast we joke and we just say the bench is just the bunch of
- 1:37:55random guys until they decide otherwise, and that's kind of
- 1:37:59the problem, until they realize, oh, we need battle tested,
- 1:38:02veterans on this bench to hit, 95 Mi an hour sinkers in the
- 1:38:06eighth inning. When we have a runner on third
- 1:38:07and our 900s up. So I wish we could all have a
- 1:38:10matte stares on our bench. I mean they're out there every
- 1:38:15so often. So I think they just have to
- 1:38:18look a little bit harder, but you've seen that be the
- 1:38:21difference in how many postseasons and again like Oh,
- 1:38:27we just just got muted by accident.
- 1:38:29Looks like, okay, watching the Dodgers game and we see that
- 1:38:36they have guys who are primed for the moment.
- 1:38:39I don't know where chaos. Balls came from.
- 1:38:43I really don't like he was. He led the league in strikeouts
- 1:38:46like two and a half years ago and now all of a sudden he's a
- 1:38:49postseason God good for him. I've had an amazing time
- 1:38:51watching him but I don't know like where that came from in
- 1:38:54terms of the Dodgers detecting that but a guy like TK Hernandez
- 1:38:59who is influential every October.
- 1:39:01It's almost automatic every time he's coming to the plate, he's
- 1:39:04getting a hit or he's or he's in the moment somehow and he's
- 1:39:08figuring out a way to either deliver or to move a runner over
- 1:39:11or to test the defense. Like I don't know what it is and
- 1:39:15I don't know how you identify those guys as a front office
- 1:39:17Personnel but I think it's fairly safe to say the Yankees
- 1:39:20have identified very little of those guys in the Aaron judge
- 1:39:23era and Aaron judge hasn't had that type of support.
- 1:39:26I don't know where it takes them in terms of what I don't want to
- 1:39:30see is Bellinger and Grisham leaving and then like trying a
- 1:39:37piecemeal that together with either lowered shining sir
- 1:39:40hoping for the best Dominguez and Spencer Jones like that.
- 1:39:44That's what I don't want. All these young girl guys and
- 1:39:47even the top hitter on the team need a bit of a softer Landing
- 1:39:50with support around them and it's like a weird imbalance that
- 1:39:54they have. At the moment, we are talking to
- 1:39:56fans cited, content, directors, co-host of the Yanks go yard
- 1:39:59podcast, Thomas, Karen nante, Looks like the Dodgers just
- 1:40:04glued them out of the game, right there.
- 1:40:07It's four to three final. They almost blew it.
- 1:40:10They brought in Roki Sasaki to face Trey Turner with two on and
- 1:40:14two out in the ninth and he gets them.
- 1:40:16And they now up to well and the Dodgers look like they're in
- 1:40:19this, you know. Everything that we thought is
- 1:40:22automatic, man pretty. So let's, let's talk about
- 1:40:25something positive and his name's cam schlittler.
- 1:40:27Nothing made me happier than. Well nothing in general makes me
- 1:40:32happier than when we get the best of Boston and this guy
- 1:40:35who's from there, absolutely shoves on them yelling, F boss
- 1:40:39and on the mountain. This is walking off in between
- 1:40:41Innings. And if he is not yelling like
- 1:40:43under his breath, he's just calm and composed.
- 1:40:46I was saying earlier, he looked kind of, like, Gerrit Cole with
- 1:40:48his composure, you know, just looking like because got similar
- 1:40:51hair, but it's just, he just looked really composed for a
- 1:40:56rookie in that situation and then after the game goes, online
- 1:41:00trolls their fans. I mean, it's like something that
- 1:41:04I like, I drew up in like some kind of fever dream of.
- 1:41:07Like, the next great pitcher. I want the Yankees to have.
- 1:41:09Like, I look, he was good when he came up.
- 1:41:12I know, I didn't see this coming.
- 1:41:14I mean, this guy was throwing, they said, you know, 92 a few
- 1:41:18years ago and now he's up at the High.
- 1:41:21These overall, you know, something like 64 of his pitches
- 1:41:24were 98 or faster in this game second.
- 1:41:27Most of all time, which is just absurd.
- 1:41:29Is it? I mean, I gotta ask you Tommy.
- 1:41:32How real is this guy because it's incredible, the Ascension
- 1:41:36cannot be denied and I think it's it's a it's a massive
- 1:41:40Player Development when for the Yankees and they've needed that
- 1:41:42for a while, with all these younger guys who have come up in
- 1:41:45the last few years and haven't really delivered.
- 1:41:48When shoulder came up earlier this year and immediately set,
- 1:41:53like I think the Yankees record and the statcast era for most
- 1:41:56triple digit pitches. I was just like, where was any
- 1:42:02of this scouting for the last 15 years?
- 1:42:03Like with how did because you, when all these other contenders
- 1:42:08reached the postseason and I feel like there's a good amount.
- 1:42:10They have like one flame throwing young guy in the
- 1:42:12bullpen or one middle of the rotation starter who has nasty
- 1:42:16stuff and the Yankees just having not been able to get that
- 1:42:19out of their draft. picks her International signings and To
- 1:42:25see schlittler succeed to the, to the degree that he has with
- 1:42:30him. Almost being like a fringe
- 1:42:33Prospect, not too long ago. Is amazing.
- 1:42:35I think it's hard. Like, you don't want to over
- 1:42:39hype him after that, outing just because he's 15 starts into his
- 1:42:43MLB career. We've seen crazier things
- 1:42:45happen, in terms of players getting injured or them losing
- 1:42:48their juice. But this is kind of the vibe
- 1:42:52that I think every Yankee fans have been looking for, right?
- 1:42:54Like we've wanted that Foo pitcher on the mound for the big
- 1:42:59games that The Yankees have failed against their Rivals.
- 1:43:04Like if you look at all the Yankees playoff defeats on
- 1:43:07Boone, and in the modern era, it's again like a rose Red Sox
- 1:43:11Rays, Dodgers, most recently. And then the only teams that
- 1:43:15they're beating are the Guardians.
- 1:43:17The Royals the twins. So there.
- 1:43:20That's where I think the mental Edge comes in.
- 1:43:23And you need that with a pitcher who's Fearless when facing an
- 1:43:27opposing lineup, especially a lineup like Boston or Houston
- 1:43:29where they literally they walk into every game and they say
- 1:43:33we're gonna own this game at whatever point and it's it's
- 1:43:36going to be the end of it for you Yankees.
- 1:43:38Like we've seen that transpire far too often but I think
- 1:43:41there's legit his pitch mix is incredible.
- 1:43:44The velocities incredible. The attitude is awesome.
- 1:43:47I think he did a great way of introducing himself to this fan
- 1:43:50base. I don't want it again.
- 1:43:52I don't want to get too ahead of myself and started anointing him
- 1:43:56the next day but like if he's pitching around freed and cold
- 1:43:59for the next few years, like that's what you're looking at.
- 1:44:01If they can cultivate him the right way and keep him on his
- 1:44:05trajectory like, this is gonna be a massive win for the Yankees
- 1:44:09development system. All right.
- 1:44:11My last question. I just general pick for the rest
- 1:44:13of the postseason. Is the Dodgers.
- 1:44:14Is there another team that you think can make noise?
- 1:44:16We got Yeah, I mean, after Friday night, I said in my head,
- 1:44:21the daughters that was just a back-breaking loss for the
- 1:44:25Phillies and I think that was a tone setting win for the
- 1:44:28Dodgers, Mike picked before that was the Mariners and I just, I
- 1:44:33don't think I can get on board with it.
- 1:44:34Maybe they win the AL, but I don't know who's defeating the
- 1:44:37daughter's. Yeah, the Mariners are a fun
- 1:44:41team. They've been they've been really
- 1:44:43a feel-good story this year but like you look at the Dodgers
- 1:44:46just right now. I think they tricked everybody
- 1:44:48with thinking that they're Bullpen was bad because now
- 1:44:50glass now Clayton Kershaw and Roki Sasaki are in the bullpen
- 1:44:56all the sudden and now everybody who's sitting there saying oh
- 1:44:58well you know vesia and try and have been struggling and you
- 1:45:03know, the middle group of it, they booted a couple of guys
- 1:45:06from the Wild Card roster. When they moved on to the DS
- 1:45:09roster now, they just level up in three ways that nobody really
- 1:45:12saw coming. I just there the Champs until
- 1:45:15someone tells me otherwise, Yeah.
- 1:45:21It's kind of interesting when you look at it.
- 1:45:24It's the parody in the game is Kind of one-sided towards, you
- 1:45:29know, they look at like, oh it's the Deferred money this D and it
- 1:45:34kind of got brought up the other day, too.
- 1:45:36And today I saw is like do you feel like, What the Dodgers are
- 1:45:41doing, more people should follow that because it puts them in
- 1:45:44this situation every year. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously, I
- 1:45:49think only a select few teams can do this.
- 1:45:51There's the teams with the top five attendance marks every year
- 1:45:56and sometimes that even that even changes.
- 1:45:59So, it would be tough for like the only teams that are able to
- 1:46:04do. It are probably Yankees Mets
- 1:46:05Dodgers. The Padres of crept up there,
- 1:46:08but I know they they've had some Financial issues over the last
- 1:46:11few years and Phillies and we just saw the Mets.
- 1:46:15Take a version of the mega spending and they had one of the
- 1:46:19most historical collapses of all time so it comes down to again I
- 1:46:24think if it's you have the right front office, Personnel spotting
- 1:46:28the right players who overspend on or to defer money on.
- 1:46:33If you want to put yourself in a precarious financial situation,
- 1:46:35then great but like I don't know how far other teams can go like
- 1:46:40the Mets. Almost had a 400 million dollar
- 1:46:42payroll and Their their they somehow to make the playoffs,
- 1:46:46the Reds, who had a third of their payroll made the playoffs.
- 1:46:49So it comes down to. I don't think, I think really
- 1:46:54the bigger conversation here is that just because you spend
- 1:46:56everybody who's like, oh the Dodgers and Yankees have the top
- 1:46:59payrolls every year, the ruining the game, Steve Cohen going out
- 1:47:02and buying whoever he wants his ruining the game and it's like,
- 1:47:04no, it's not. I before I popped on the air job
- 1:47:08or you were talking about 2009, the Yankees spent a billion
- 1:47:11dollars that offseason. And I think that was one of the
- 1:47:14few times ever that having that type of approach worked.
- 1:47:18But it was also a testament to the all of the players who came
- 1:47:22in and had to assimilate with the roster and get to know
- 1:47:25everybody. And then all so step up in the
- 1:47:27biggest moments in their first impression, that's an absolutely
- 1:47:31incredible thing to do. And the fact that the Dodgers
- 1:47:33were kind of able to replicate that over the last couple years
- 1:47:35in a sense, it's speaks to their going after the right guys.
- 1:47:38So I think you know as a fan I want my owner to spend but you
- 1:47:42got to have the right guys. In front of his choosing who to
- 1:47:45spend on because I think we've seen enough times over the last
- 1:47:47few years, how it blow up in your face.
- 1:47:50Tommy, we have really, really appreciate you coming.
- 1:47:54You know, thank you guys. We know that your fans cited,
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- 1:48:45appreciate you guys taking the time to have me on tonight.
- 1:48:48It was awesome. Tommy, you were Fant.
- 1:48:50Cross our fingers and you know, do some Voodoo to get the
- 1:48:53Yankees through these next couple of games.
- 1:48:55Perhaps, I don't know, I'm not super hopeful but I've been
- 1:48:58wrong about virtually everything.
- 1:48:59So, hopefully, that street continues at least for the
- 1:49:03Yankees sake again. Thanks a lot, man.
- 1:49:05And we'll try to get you on another time.
- 1:49:07Real soon. Sounds good guys.
- 1:49:08Let's go Yanks. Let's go Yanks and guys that was
- 1:49:11Thomas, Karen nante. Well.
- 1:49:15It was really good man. Like I asked the question and
- 1:49:19nobody seems to want to blame Boone, you know?
- 1:49:21Like I I feel like it's just in my heart just as a Yankee fan
- 1:49:26growing up that you throw the manager under the bus.
- 1:49:30So what you know, Billy Martin got fired, seven times, I think
- 1:49:34something like that. Well, they're coming back, they
- 1:49:37come back, it's part of the family.
- 1:49:38Look, you get you fight with family and then you bring them
- 1:49:41back. That was how it was for a long
- 1:49:44time. With the Yankees Yogi.
- 1:49:45Bear is all sorts of stuff like that.
- 1:49:47With the Yankees Gene, Gene Monahan used to tell you.
- 1:49:49I mean, he was there for 50 years and literally he would
- 1:49:52tell stories and be like, yeah, Boston, come down somebody's
- 1:49:55injury, whatever he would fire me.
- 1:49:57He goes it, just got to the point where it didn't even
- 1:49:59matter. I just showed up the next day
- 1:50:00and he'd come down and like, nothing ever happened.
- 1:50:03And he goes, that's pretty much what it was.
- 1:50:05So everybody kind of just one of their way unless you really got
- 1:50:09mad, then, you know, but yeah, he fired.
- 1:50:10Everybody's like, that's the boss being the boss, we're gonna
- 1:50:12come back and tell you, literally tells us to go, Just a
- 1:50:17different different times. You know, those those are the
- 1:50:20classy Yankee days. Hopefully, they can turn it
- 1:50:22around. Well, if not, we're definitely
- 1:50:24gonna talk about it on next, show on Thursday.
- 1:50:27But before that, we got to go from playoff teams to two teams
- 1:50:31that have no chance in hell whatsoever of sniffing the
- 1:50:35playoffs this season. Yes, it's the other.
- 1:50:38It's the New York football teams.
- 1:50:39It's the New York Giants and the Jets.
- 1:50:41Just in more depressing News, New York football might be
- 1:50:46hitting rock bottom as both teams lost in their own
- 1:50:49different pathetic fashions in week.
- 1:50:51Five, first off let's listen start with the Jets.
- 1:50:54They lost to the Cowboys, 37 to 22 virtually, all of the offense
- 1:50:58coming in garbage time against soft coverage in the fourth
- 1:51:01quarter. The Jets defense also continued
- 1:51:04to be atrocious allowing 40016 total yards including 180 on the
- 1:51:09ground and five total touchdowns.
- 1:51:11The team has not forced a single turnover.
- 1:51:16In the first five weeks of the Season, which is the first time
- 1:51:19Speedy that this is happened since the height of the Great
- 1:51:23Depression in 1933. The Jets are also the last
- 1:51:29winless team remaining in the NFL this season.
- 1:51:31Thanks to the Giants. More on that in a second.
- 1:51:34But fantasy stats Galore. In this recorder back, Justin
- 1:51:37Fields, who finished with 283 yards and two touchdowns rookie
- 1:51:41Titan. Mason Taylor had nine catches in
- 1:51:4367, yds star wide. Receiver Garrett, Wilson had six
- 1:51:46catches 71 yards in a touchdown having those strong fantasy days
- 1:51:51against those prevent defenses teams are playing against the
- 1:51:54Jets in the fourth quarter. And then down by the Bayou, the
- 1:51:57Giants beat themselves, turning the ball over five times, with
- 1:52:02costly drops along the way. Rookie quarterback Jackson died
- 1:52:05in the second NFL, start finish 26 to 40 passing with 2002
- 1:52:09yards, two touchdowns two picks, and a fumbled loss for a 73.1
- 1:52:14passer rating, which I guess is okay a week after giving the
- 1:52:18Chargers, the first loss of the season, the Giants lost to the
- 1:52:21Saints 2614, giving them their first win of the season.
- 1:52:25The Giants were actually up 14 to 3 in the second quarter
- 1:52:27before. Completely melting down.
- 1:52:29Giving up 23, unanswered points. There's an 80 plus yard,
- 1:52:32touchdown by Rashid, Shaheed and then the Giants tried to do a
- 1:52:36Flea Flicker, the Darius slayed in who in very Darius slate in
- 1:52:40fashion, dropped the ball left, the game.
- 1:52:43Hurt had a bad fumble along the way exited with three catches
- 1:52:47and 31 yards on six Targets in his attempt to fill in as the
- 1:52:51new number one, receiver after the Giants lost Malik neighbors
- 1:52:55for the season last week with a 20 CL.
- 1:52:59Home. Oh my God.
- 1:53:00Well, I said we'll start with the Jets first.
- 1:53:04The Jets were a joke they showed up against Dallas with no chance
- 1:53:08of being successful. This Dallas defense sucks and
- 1:53:12the Jets offense did nothing. And on top of this, Aaron Glenn
- 1:53:17was this vaunted defensive coordinator who now has the
- 1:53:22worst defense in football. They're the worst.
- 1:53:26It's almost 100 years. I said 1933 was the last time in
- 1:53:30NFL team, I will be there 16 teams back then Speedy. 1933 It
- 1:53:36was the last time a team went, the first five games of the
- 1:53:38Season without forcing a turnover.
- 1:53:40It's unbelievably bad defense. 400 plus yards, they're just
- 1:53:45terrible. And you don't understand why God
- 1:53:48you have guys on the team. You have a top five Corner in
- 1:53:52football in sauce gardener. You have will MacDonald, who's a
- 1:53:57pretty darn good end. You have Quinn and Williams, who
- 1:54:00is a top 10 to top five defensive tackle in the league.
- 1:54:04What's the problem? Why can't they even be competent
- 1:54:09defensively? Their special teams are much
- 1:54:11better and offensively. They make lots of mistakes just
- 1:54:15in fields, is showing why every team seeks passing on him.
- 1:54:20Look, he's great against soft coverages.
- 1:54:22Where they're letting you throw on their knee.
- 1:54:25And getting Guys open. And then they're playing some
- 1:54:27kind of like deep off, man, where the quarterback can run
- 1:54:31and get some yards. So his stats look great.
- 1:54:34If you took, if you had him in fantasy, great job by you this
- 1:54:37week. but it's a fantasy, if you think this guy is beating any
- 1:54:40kind of competent team, if the Jets fall behind They can't put
- 1:54:44up offense, it's awful. And I don't know, if it's all
- 1:54:47just in fields is fault, I don't think it is.
- 1:54:50I think it's the coaching. I don't think they have a good
- 1:54:54system. I don't think they are ready to
- 1:54:56deal with a quarterback, that might be limited.
- 1:54:59Now, if you gave Justin fields to a guy like Shanahan, I know
- 1:55:02Arrow would hate me saying that, but maybe that's why I said it.
- 1:55:05But a real, like a McVay, a quarterback.
- 1:55:09A guy who's gonna get a quarterback straight obviously,
- 1:55:12maybe not Brian dabel. After what, we've seen more in
- 1:55:14him in a second, but it's he's he doesn't have it here.
- 1:55:19They're not good. The thing I'm feels was you
- 1:55:23know, and Speedy. We talked about this a week or
- 1:55:24two ago, you know, similar to Jalen hurts.
- 1:55:27They said he was a one reader back coming out of college.
- 1:55:30Just the fields might be kind of not necessarily one recorder
- 1:55:34back, but it's your reading high low.
- 1:55:37Which could be your deciding between two receivers or you're,
- 1:55:40you're reading a corner, if he's gonna bail or he's gonna stay up
- 1:55:42and or could be a safety, or maybe you have some rpos, where
- 1:55:46you're reading, a running back, a linebacker or something, he's
- 1:55:49not doing anything crazy Advanced.
- 1:55:50If he's supposed to look off one side play, if they're in a
- 1:55:53certain coverage and go to the other side, he ain't doing it
- 1:55:56man. They're not having competent
- 1:55:58offense, it's really tough to watch.
- 1:56:00And if I'm if I'm a Jets fan at this point and thankfully I'm
- 1:56:05not not that. My team is any better, slightly
- 1:56:07better maybe. I mean Abdul Carter's pretty
- 1:56:10damn good is fun to watch but I don't really know what I'm
- 1:56:12thinking if I'm a Jets fan because that Cowboys defense is
- 1:56:15supposed to be terrible and they couldn't do anything until the
- 1:56:19game was over. I mean, what was it?
- 1:56:21It was like 40. Like, they were down what 30
- 1:56:23points before they started scoring something like that.
- 1:56:26I know, they only had six points going into the fourth quarter,
- 1:56:28so all of those points came in the fourth quarter, against
- 1:56:31prevent defense. I don't know, man.
- 1:56:34I I think it's a top three pick for the Jets this year.
- 1:56:38Maybe that's what they need. Maybe they do need to get that
- 1:56:40quarterback. There are a few guys coming out,
- 1:56:42you know, the South Carolina, guys, sellers we know, LSU's
- 1:56:46quarterback, was it? I keep getting his name, nothing
- 1:56:49Myer was gonna say nothing like he was Jewish now.
- 1:56:52Some Meyer, there's guys, Carson Beckle come out this year, I
- 1:56:56still like Carson Beck. I know people are down on him.
- 1:56:58I still like Carson back. It's another year of him playing
- 1:57:01like year seven. Hey look.
- 1:57:04So was Jayden Jayden, Daniels played six years.
- 1:57:06You got to remember that stuff. It's a little bit different
- 1:57:09these days. It's not you know we're not
- 1:57:11going to talk about him tonight. Again we'll talk about him
- 1:57:13probably more than Thursday but Mark Sanchez came out as a
- 1:57:16junior. I think it was, you know, there
- 1:57:19are other quarterbacks Sam darnold, I believe came out
- 1:57:21before his senior year, not always the best way to go.
- 1:57:24You need that seasoning and learning how to do more advanced
- 1:57:28things as a quarterback I look at it like You know, I coach
- 1:57:32High School football and like the stuff we're asking
- 1:57:34quarterbacks to do is obviously very remedial compared to what's
- 1:57:37going on, but it's like that as a quarterback, you're leveling
- 1:57:40up. Like, if you ever played like
- 1:57:42like a Guitar Hero, you know, how they have like a simple
- 1:57:45beginner mode up to expert mode and everything in between.
- 1:57:48Well, if you get up to expert mode, your hand is flying all
- 1:57:51over the place. That's I would say the best way
- 1:57:54to compare what it's like being a high school to a college, to a
- 1:57:57D1 to a you know, Big Time pro quarterback.
- 1:58:01It's just a lot more is happening and you have to be a
- 1:58:04lot more versatile. I I don't think Justin Fields,
- 1:58:07has it? I don't I think it's pretty
- 1:58:09clear. He doesn't at this point,
- 1:58:11they're going to need a big thing to change if that's going
- 1:58:14to happen. And they've really need to
- 1:58:15create an infrastructure of an offense that can work with a
- 1:58:19quarterback that they draft because it's pretty clear.
- 1:58:21They're going to draft the quarterback high this year.
- 1:58:22Yeah the philosophy is there to draft a quarterback regardless
- 1:58:26of how well feels as played. And I think still has been more
- 1:58:28of a net positive for the Jets this year, considering the
- 1:58:31circumstances as a first year of system, as the first year of a
- 1:58:33new coaching staff. So that combined, with his
- 1:58:37contract being movable like he's a bridge guy, he's a perfect
- 1:58:41Bridge guy forever, where they draft because wherever they
- 1:58:43draft like they're gonna get a quarterback that is going to be
- 1:58:47It is somewhat raw or somebody that's coming off a bad year.
- 1:58:52Nussmeier is a good talent. He's had a bad last couple
- 1:58:54games, okay club, and I was mentioning for Clemson's had a
- 1:58:58really bad year where he probably shouldn't declare at
- 1:59:00this point. And then you have the uprising
- 1:59:03guys Mendoza. Indiana is one, that's
- 1:59:06definitely a possibility. Is a guy, that's a high Riser.
- 1:59:09He's faced, really good competition this year and this
- 1:59:12is the Big Ten that had a lot of good defenses.
- 1:59:14So, again, whatever combination of quarterback, that you end up
- 1:59:17taking is, it's gonna be somebody that the Jets should
- 1:59:20try to develop more and not throw the fire.
- 1:59:23Like, we've seen the Jets to do with Zach Wilson, like we see
- 1:59:25them do with Mark Sanchez in the past and guys, guys that were
- 1:59:30not as more raw than was perceived, I know.
- 1:59:34When it came to the talent level of jets had with Sanchez,
- 1:59:38they're already maybe it was easy for them to say at the
- 1:59:40time. All right.
- 1:59:40This is already a pretty loaded team.
- 1:59:42But we were thinking this year that especially on defense, the
- 1:59:45Jets Talent was going to be there, but you have linebackers
- 1:59:48that are kind of more built for Robert Salas defense.
- 1:59:51You've got defensive tackles that maybe were more built to be
- 1:59:54like these four three type pass rushers and just not as much as
- 1:59:58like Aaron Glenn is trying to play a hybrid defense more for
- 2:00:02three than three four. But it's a little different
- 2:00:04still for a lot of these player types.
- 2:00:06And with the types of guys, he hadn't Detroit, it looked like
- 2:00:09you would think, all right, you could ease in transition it with
- 2:00:12the Jets had trouble, developing defensive tackles, they had to
- 2:00:14line backers now, but they had trouble with that for a while,
- 2:00:16trying to pass together with what they have a map Patricia
- 2:00:18there. And that's what was I was
- 2:00:20encouraged with Glenn when he got that.
- 2:00:23Head coaching job, they wore it wasn't a one style type of guy
- 2:00:26and that's why I'm surprised. These players have not been able
- 2:00:29to evolve in that system. You mentioned.
- 2:00:30Saucy's had a rough year will McDonald's played well but Quinn
- 2:00:33and Williams has been down and the offense, they're again,
- 2:00:37they're playing well, considering the circumstances
- 2:00:39but they could only do so much when they're not as like
- 2:00:41talented, besides probably Gerald Wilson and Fields the
- 2:00:45way. He's played this year, but we
- 2:00:46saw button up and down it just it's not ideal for a
- 2:00:49circumstance. But like you said, 0 turnovers
- 2:00:51for a defense, you would think that talent that is definitely
- 2:00:54surprising. But it's the big plays and the
- 2:00:55run defense more for me. Because the turnovers are
- 2:00:59something that, sometimes you have turnover defenses, that
- 2:01:01aren't that are bad yardage defenses, or they allow big
- 2:01:04plays and penalties defenses, like Green Bay has a lot of
- 2:01:06defense is like that in the past, but they're top two seats
- 2:01:10when Aaron Rodgers was there because they had still getting
- 2:01:12turnovers and they could still score a lot.
- 2:01:14But sometimes you don't have that kind of thing, but the fact
- 2:01:16that they're allowing so many big plays and as undisciplined
- 2:01:19as they are, is very surprising. Yeah.
- 2:01:22I mean, you guys obviously, see it directly more so than us
- 2:01:26being here. But I was always wondered like
- 2:01:29you go from Robert Solace. The defense of guy to Aaron.
- 2:01:31Glenn is a defensive guy. Now, you have the worst
- 2:01:33defensive football like am I missing something like fish?
- 2:01:37You obviously know better than any of us because you're a coach
- 2:01:39but like, I'm not an expert by any means.
- 2:01:43But you go from a defensive graduate to a defense of guy and
- 2:01:46you get worse and Speedy touched on the different dynamics of how
- 2:01:50they developed from the defensive side of the ball.
- 2:01:52But that really like that, for me, it is missing the mark
- 2:01:57because you go from one, you saw what he did.
- 2:01:59And obviously, it took a little bit behind Campbell in the Lions
- 2:02:03and then bringing it, and then now you get worse.
- 2:02:05I'll give you a name as part of the reason why they got worse
- 2:02:08and Speedy. I was talking about this at the
- 2:02:10end, the last year. CJ Mosley retired.
- 2:02:14CJ Mosley was the middle linebacker who was the captain
- 2:02:16of the defense? Look he wasn't the same player
- 2:02:18as he was in the threat, his career.
- 2:02:20But if you don't have guys getting people set right?
- 2:02:23And my and look I'm not sitting there grinding Jets tape, I'm
- 2:02:26sorry, Jets fans, I this isn't the most all 22, you know,
- 2:02:30Centric analysis here but I'm just gonna go on and a limb and
- 2:02:34saying that the defense isn't lined up, right?
- 2:02:36Very often. And that they don't have guys
- 2:02:38communicating well to get lined up right and when that happens
- 2:02:41edges get get you know. Burnt, you're gonna get
- 2:02:46contained lost. You're gonna have coverage is
- 2:02:49blown, and you're just gonna be out of position.
- 2:02:53Not everybody. But if you don't have that Elite
- 2:02:56Communicator inside things are really hard like I even like the
- 2:03:00high school level, we just didn't have that two years ago
- 2:03:03we went to State semifinals, we had a middle linebacker who went
- 2:03:06to Harvard. The dude was like reading
- 2:03:08self-help books while everyone else was playing around and
- 2:03:10study. All got kid was a genius.
- 2:03:12Love that kid. He's doing really well, the year
- 2:03:15after good kid too, just didn't really have the Acumen for the
- 2:03:18game, you know, in the same way I mean it's only so many kids
- 2:03:21that go to Harvard and do that type of stuff.
- 2:03:23But he was a coach on the field and having that makes your
- 2:03:26defense so much better because you could react so much faster
- 2:03:30And you need that in the NFL, the Giants when they won with
- 2:03:35Eli traded for Antonio Pierce, Antonio Pierce wasn't a
- 2:03:39world-beater at linebacker, but it was a great communicator.
- 2:03:41Became a coach short-lived. But, you know, became a coach.
- 2:03:44This is the type of guy that you want on your field on the
- 2:03:48defense. Ed Reed is another example of a
- 2:03:51type of guy that would be the captain of the secondary.
- 2:03:54Now you also need guys like that to have the secondary aligned,
- 2:03:58right? Because in the NFL, it's so
- 2:03:59complicated. You're not leaving it all up to
- 2:04:01the middle linebacker. He's probably just taking care
- 2:04:03of the front seven and the secondary, you know, they might
- 2:04:06have the past strength opposite. The Run strength a lot.
- 2:04:08So you're going to end up having that which is just There's a lot
- 2:04:13of guys communicating and if it just feels like they don't
- 2:04:15communicate well that they play slow and they shouldn't be
- 2:04:19because they have some dudes on that defense they still do and
- 2:04:23it's just really hard to watch the brand of football.
- 2:04:26They're putting out there right now.
- 2:04:27I don't really know how to explain a Java.
- 2:04:29I just don't think they're very good and I don't think you know
- 2:04:32maybe it's a Joe Douglas not being their thing I don't think
- 2:04:34Joe Douglas if he was the GM would have allowed this team not
- 2:04:38to be sound with communication, you know, with veterans at the
- 2:04:42right positions. You know on the defense at I I
- 2:04:45think Joe Douglas was a very good GM and I think that the
- 2:04:48ownership and arrow doesn't believe me on this one, he
- 2:04:51doesn't want to throw, you know, ownership under the bus.
- 2:04:53But I'm telling you ownership has their fingerprints all over
- 2:04:57all these mistakes that jets are doing, I'm convinced. so, About
- 2:05:02the Giants. This is a different way to lose
- 2:05:05the giant decided to lose. By being better than the other
- 2:05:09team, except for in the turnover battle, they put the ball on the
- 2:05:12ground. Was it three times with two?
- 2:05:15Picks jaxson. Dart was running.
- 2:05:17Just drop the ball. No one touched him that's
- 2:05:19frustrating. Camp scoutible scada.
- 2:05:22I keep saying bow. It's got a boo.
- 2:05:25Scada boo dropped in had a fumble and then was looking at
- 2:05:28his gloves, like it was the gloves fault.
- 2:05:30Like he's like a kid that played JV football or something.
- 2:05:32I I love like that's in any sport.
- 2:05:34Like they drop one or like in baseball.
- 2:05:36They look at the glove and then tighten like tighten the string
- 2:05:39like that's like your first ever like It's like you, you're not
- 2:05:44taught that, but it's like the first thing, any, like, any kid,
- 2:05:48or whatever, and you still see it in the big league level and
- 2:05:51every, like and every night from from, you know, from Pee Wee's
- 2:05:55to the NFL like, even in, you know, travel ball to the big
- 2:05:59league. Like the first thing they do is
- 2:06:00like look at their glove tightness.
- 2:06:02I, oh yeah, I was the glove not a user error.
- 2:06:04It was just so bad watching as much as I did.
- 2:06:07I was, I was doing a bunch of stuff that day.
- 2:06:09I saw the game, go, the wrong way, it all happened, on the
- 2:06:13Rashid, Shaheed home run, touchdown Speedy.
- 2:06:15He gets an eight was an 87 yards.
- 2:06:18Something ridiculous to Shahid again just a broken coverage.
- 2:06:23Tyler nubin does not look fast enough to cover guys, at this
- 2:06:26level, at least, if they're not getting them.
- 2:06:29Any kind of, you know, They're playing.
- 2:06:32So here's the thing. The Giants are playing loose off
- 2:06:35man coverage. They're not pressing guys,
- 2:06:38they're not bumping guys so they get clean releases off the line
- 2:06:42even if they're standing on line and scrimmage, when there are
- 2:06:44crossing routes, the Giants have two inside linebackers.
- 2:06:48Neither one of them are getting hands on them to slow down these
- 2:06:52crossers. So how are you supposed to
- 2:06:55cover? If you don't have like the
- 2:06:57fastest safeties in the world that are just top top notch.
- 2:07:00If you're not slowing, some of these burners at receiver down,
- 2:07:05if he just gets someone just gets in front of Shahid for a
- 2:07:07little bit. Nubian stays with him enough
- 2:07:10that he can't make that play or maybe it's not a touchdown.
- 2:07:13But that's what we see happening.
- 2:07:15It's a problem guys. They don't play defense well and
- 2:07:19I think the coordinator has a lot to do with it, but the
- 2:07:22offense making mistakes just completely unacceptable.
- 2:07:26It's just, you can't beat yourself.
- 2:07:28That's not a good Saints team. Nobody thinks that's a good
- 2:07:32saying steam Kool-Aid. Mckinstry is not a great corner.
- 2:07:34He picked off Dart twice in this game.
- 2:07:38This, It's just tough to watch. This was the game.
- 2:07:40They were supposed to win and you're so and in football you
- 2:07:43have to win the game's you're supposed to win, they somehow
- 2:07:46beat a Chargers team that was depleted.
- 2:07:48Nobody thought that was going to happen.
- 2:07:49Looking at the, you know, the schedule coming into the season
- 2:07:52but a lot of people thought the Saints game was the first win of
- 2:07:55the year and then they play like this.
- 2:07:57What a joke. It's so frustrating.
- 2:07:59And the guy that I want to throw the most shade at is Darius
- 2:08:03later. He's the guy that's been there,
- 2:08:08the longest. He's the guy that ever since
- 2:08:11college is 4/4 speed, he's had a couple injuries, but nothing
- 2:08:15crazy. He's always had the same
- 2:08:18problem. He drops the ball.
- 2:08:21He drops key catches there was a Flea Flicker that they tried to
- 2:08:24hit after they gave up that big touchdown.
- 2:08:26Just Shahid, it's a little underthrown.
- 2:08:29But my God, you got to make that play.
- 2:08:32You gotta make that play. And it's such a like, it's a
- 2:08:37momentum killer, right? Like if you have a trick play
- 2:08:39and it works, that's the best, you know?
- 2:08:41You have a 805 yard touchdown, that's the best but then if you
- 2:08:45have one and it falls flat, it like is it's like a negative
- 2:08:49multiplier. It can be real devastating and
- 2:08:52they never recovered from it. The team just didn't recover
- 2:08:56from a couple of bad plays in a row and then the offense didn't
- 2:09:00work at all in second half. At all.
- 2:09:04They were driving it and then they just don't pay attention to
- 2:09:06detail. And again, who do you blame for
- 2:09:09attention to detail other than the head coach?
- 2:09:12I hate to say it. I like dabel.
- 2:09:15I always have. I think he has interesting
- 2:09:18schemes. I like how he gets people open.
- 2:09:21It's just there's so many times where details are not being paid
- 2:09:25attention to. You know, it'd be the same as
- 2:09:28like, Java, like in baseball, someone who just doesn't really
- 2:09:31know how to do bass running. You know, like they make
- 2:09:34mistakes on the base path all the time like like labor was
- 2:09:36making you know a year or two ago.
- 2:09:39You know it gets you frustrated and eventually you just don't
- 2:09:41want to deal with it anymore. That's what I see with the
- 2:09:43Giants. This team's going nowhere.
- 2:09:44There are five one team if they're lucky and we're getting
- 2:09:48another high pick. Yeah, looks like that way.
- 2:09:49I sloppy as it gets for you. You don't have the level of
- 2:09:53talent to be able to get away with it, especially on offense
- 2:09:55with neighbors, fumble or neighbor's injured.
- 2:09:58Obviously, Tracy is hurt. And you have these fumbles that
- 2:10:02you would think, okay, I'm gonna play more attention to details,
- 2:10:04at least play ball control to help out our defense that I'm
- 2:10:07paper should be more tapping, his talented enough to steal
- 2:10:11some games, like they did that first week or the one we last
- 2:10:14week when they won against the charger, it's like the defense.
- 2:10:17I mean, Dart looked good in some instances but it was defense in
- 2:10:20that game against an offense. That's very talented with the
- 2:10:22charger. I mean they lost some pieces.
- 2:10:24They obviously losing all the big blow to that.
- 2:10:27I got a Giants pass rush that has three good Edge, rushers.
- 2:10:29And you would think that the Giants at least are gonna have
- 2:10:34that kind of mentality to carry it over and not play Reckless,
- 2:10:37like they have and that was one of the Things you worry about
- 2:10:39with dart when he was a prospect because to me, when I watched
- 2:10:43him in college, he had a lot of the good and the bad of Sam
- 2:10:47darnold. Like the good, he had the
- 2:10:49throwing the run of the ability to the intermediate throw a
- 2:10:51billy that you saw him have at USC and then you saw him having
- 2:10:54flashes in his career, but he just never were able to put it
- 2:10:58together because he was so bad with short accuracy, he was so
- 2:11:00bad with intermediate. He was so bad with decision,
- 2:11:03making a certain points on The trajectory of what DART is the
- 2:11:17smarts I thought were still there in that first half.
- 2:11:22And then all of the sudden, it looked like that.
- 2:11:23That recklessness came about in some of these dot games that Ole
- 2:11:27Miss tend to have towards the end of the year because they
- 2:11:29were consistent playoff contenders in for most like two
- 2:11:33months of the season when he was at quarterback and then it will
- 2:11:36send you. Like, he has all these brain got
- 2:11:38phase like what are you doing? And I think a lot of those came
- 2:11:40back into it and obviously got a bow from one to combining with
- 2:11:44that doesn't help and Darius and I never was really high on
- 2:11:47anyway. A basically a poor man's these
- 2:11:51like willful or basically, he's like good for.
- 2:11:54Like he'll have his three random good games of the year and he's
- 2:11:58not really overly Townsend besides that.
- 2:12:00So I think just the combination of that, it doesn't bode well
- 2:12:04for the Giants. And just, I mean, we're not
- 2:12:06expecting much anyway. We're just hoping for the
- 2:12:08development and dark but losing the same.
- 2:12:10When the saints looked competitive, maybe in one game
- 2:12:13this year, Yeah, that's maybe rock bottom.
- 2:12:17Yeah, I mean, I think speed, I think you're giving them credit
- 2:12:20for being a competitive in one game, but I mean, I yeah, it's
- 2:12:24it's been tough to watch the Saints.
- 2:12:26But I think what jaxson DART too for just watching it is, you
- 2:12:31know, I think it's him just coming together and trying to
- 2:12:35figure it out. Obviously it's, you know, guys
- 2:12:37are trying to figure a bunch out.
- 2:12:38But I like you said, I don't think we expected much but I
- 2:12:42think if the Giants of one thing I think you can obviously forget
- 2:12:47about this one, have that Men In Black clicker, where he clicks
- 2:12:50the button and you just everything you your memory is
- 2:12:52erased but is just to see some type of growth, and You know,
- 2:12:59just production from jaxson Dart as moose forward because I mean
- 2:13:02the talents there you've seen it in in spirits.
- 2:13:05I've seen in college obviously the NFL's a little bit different
- 2:13:08bird but I think it's just For him.
- 2:13:12I think you just need to see growth and in more ways than
- 2:13:16just, you know, going through progressions and, you know,
- 2:13:19hopefully, you know, he gets some time to be able to to
- 2:13:22adjust because it is a different game and you know, it's it's
- 2:13:25going to be a top pick for him again and you know, hope doesn't
- 2:13:29get him frustrated and try and do too much or, you know, think
- 2:13:33outside the box and try to recreate what God I'm here.
- 2:13:36So I think you just you try to keep your head on straight and
- 2:13:39for him just to see some growth and hopes something something
- 2:13:43decent that you can see comes out from him.
- 2:13:47All right. Well look.
- 2:13:49It's going to be a long season, let's face it.
- 2:13:52It's gonna be another long season for Giants and jets fans,
- 2:13:55you know, it's it's not too early to start thinking about
- 2:13:59the draft at least at the Giants.
- 2:14:00I don't think we're thinking about quarterback.
- 2:14:02I you can say that Dart made mistakes and that second half
- 2:14:05they didn't lose because it's Dart, they lost because of the
- 2:14:08team failure, they did it. You know, if that scoutible
- 2:14:11fumble doesn't happen and go the other way.
- 2:14:12It's still a very wonderful game.
- 2:14:14You know, it's, they think they win that game more than they
- 2:14:18lose it, but you can't lose games.
- 2:14:20You're supposed to win when they're aren't that many on your
- 2:14:23schedule. Let's continue with our NFL
- 2:14:25coverage with speedies stat of the week.
- 2:14:34Juliet like the way so Jared we got for us.
- 2:14:39I mentioned to Jared in the private chat.
- 2:14:41He was like oh if the Saints go get the number one pick I'm
- 2:14:46gonna never gonna forgive the Giants.
- 2:14:47Well the Saints became one of two teams to get their first win
- 2:14:51of the season last week. The other one in the is the
- 2:14:55Tennessee Titans because of one of the most bizarre collapses
- 2:14:57we've ever seen from the Arizona Cardinals.
- 2:14:59So my side of the week centers around many different parts of
- 2:15:02that. The obviously the big one that
- 2:15:04got the headlines which was Amari DMO doing exactly what
- 2:15:08Adam and I Mitchell did last week dropping the ball before
- 2:15:10the goal line. So interesting fact about that
- 2:15:13two parts of the Cardinals actually had the first one of
- 2:15:16those cafes we ever saw in NFL history.
- 2:15:19Doing it in 1985 when Pat Tilley drop the ball in Civil War
- 2:15:23fashion before the goal line play against the Dallas Cowboys.
- 2:15:25There was one technically before that too.
- 2:15:27But the guy he was with the Raiders had a guy, he flicked
- 2:15:32the ball in the air, and he was just trying to celebrate with
- 2:15:33the football at So they technically the second one, but
- 2:15:37the first one that looked like that and the Cardinals have
- 2:15:39actually had two instances where it went in their favor,
- 2:15:41including one last week, where two, Seattle Defenders, Collide
- 2:15:44after Seattle, got an interception and Arizona
- 2:15:46recovered the ball, and they also had one last year, too.
- 2:15:49James Conner, forced the ball out after defensive, tackle tire
- 2:15:53for the Chargers, kind of interception last week.
- 2:15:56So that's one part of it, but there was also an even weirder
- 2:15:58play after that. So cam Ward throws an
- 2:16:01interception to Cardinals Rookie safety Dodger on Taylor
- 2:16:04demerson. He intercepted the past in Tyler
- 2:16:09Lockett recovered. It so the somebody forced it out
- 2:16:12and then Tyler Locke, it recovered it in the end zone for
- 2:16:15the Titans touchdown. That is the first time at play
- 2:16:18like that happened. Since Robert Mitchum strips, the
- 2:16:22ball from Commander safety, Kareem Moore in 2009, and ran it
- 2:16:26back all the way for a touchdown off of the turnover.
- 2:16:30So it's the first time that's happened since then.
- 2:16:32Just a side note for you Java, this will be the first show.
- 2:16:36I'm the first one ever to mention Nebraska on the show,
- 2:16:38going back to the first thing, Calvin.
- 2:16:40Jones, did that? No, I had a hat on all show.
- 2:16:43Okay, fine. But I have the first one I get
- 2:16:45to say verbally. I Calvin, Jones also did this
- 2:16:49same thing Dean Mercado did in 1992.
- 2:16:51Just a side note for that. He's the only one that did in
- 2:16:53the 1990s. Both of the College of the NFL
- 2:16:55level, but what happened there with Audrey and Taylor.
- 2:16:58Demerson the first time that happened since he has a nine.
- 2:17:00So the Titans as a result of all that came back and won after
- 2:17:05being down 21 to 6 since in the next gen stats era.
- 2:17:08Since 2414, they had the lowest average win probability in any
- 2:17:12game that was won 12.2% throughout the game and they end
- 2:17:17up winning the game. Well, I guess that's what it's
- 2:17:21gonna take for the Titans to win this year.
- 2:17:23Let's, I don't. We whip around the rest of the
- 2:17:26NFL week 5 coverage. All right.
- 2:17:35So the whip around featuring to two of Wes's guys.
- 2:17:39Some Buckeye receivers going off in his in this first game.
- 2:17:43They're very good game. The Tampa Bay, Buccaneers 38 to
- 2:17:4635 over the Seattle Seahawks and Mecca, Buca Jackson Smith and
- 2:17:50jigba. Definitely helping your bet
- 2:17:52against arrow with his dominant performance.
- 2:17:54And to perceived busts in the draft of the 2018 draft Sam
- 2:17:59Donald, I was just talking about in Baker, Mayfield having some
- 2:18:02insane performance in that one but it's Tampa.
- 2:18:04They gets the wind 38 to 35, their third win this season on
- 2:18:08in the final seconds of the game.
- 2:18:13Baker Mayfield stats this year, in five games, 65% completion.
- 2:18:181200 and 83 yards, 10 touchdowns one pick.
- 2:18:23He's a dude. Wow!
- 2:18:25And a lot of that without Mike Evans.
- 2:18:29Bucky Irving's hurt. Chris Godwin just came back and
- 2:18:33he's not at 100%. This is wild.
- 2:18:38Like they said the same thing about him last year, two and
- 2:18:41Mike Evans out. He like he just finds a way to
- 2:18:43get it done. Like he grows on, you know.
- 2:18:46It's it's it's something where it's like you may not have liked
- 2:18:50him because he kind of, you know whatever but then he just he
- 2:18:53goes out and he keeps proving it and it's he's fun to watch
- 2:18:56because you don't count them out.
- 2:18:59Yeah I don't think you can and this was a great game.
- 2:19:02I wanted us to start with this one.
- 2:19:04It was back and forth. I do think Seattle is a pretty
- 2:19:08good team. Sam darnold had a monster game
- 2:19:10for Seattle as well. Felt a little short.
- 2:19:12You said it speedy. I was on this guy.
- 2:19:15Jackson Smith and Jigme. I'm a big fan of the of
- 2:19:19Jackson's in the NFL this year, I guess, but Smith and jig was
- 2:19:23fantastic. My one of my fantasy teams name
- 2:19:26is, I got Smith and jigba, and Jameer Gibbs, it's Gibson, Smith
- 2:19:32and jiggy with it. That's my team off of the great
- 2:19:34Will Smith. I think that was a solid one,
- 2:19:36but he's a top three receiver right now, Speedy.
- 2:19:40I was right. 100% right specialty.
- 2:19:41PPR back guys. Killing it this season.
- 2:19:44He's got Most of the target share.
- 2:19:47He's a round 100 yards every game.
- 2:19:50He's the guy they want to throw to right before his touchdown.
- 2:19:54I was like oh just throw a skinny posted in jig, but the
- 2:19:56back of the end zone. Sure enough.
- 2:19:58They call the play. Because why wouldn't you want
- 2:20:00him running that? Because he's that good.
- 2:20:02He's so good. It just isn't enough to be
- 2:20:05Baker, Mayfield, currently, they got a really good field goal.
- 2:20:08Kicker, too Chase. McLaughlin the week before is
- 2:20:11hidden from 60. He hits the clutch field goal
- 2:20:14win this game and this one in my league with Errol and his
- 2:20:19friend. The beef that's in our comment
- 2:20:20section A lot. I actually have a bunch of guys
- 2:20:22that came on that team. I have the jackpot, I have a
- 2:20:24book, I have Baker, and I have a car.
- 2:20:27So I ended up getting 206 this week.
- 2:20:30Come alive because of This Book Is For Real, too.
- 2:20:34Yeah, did you see try to pronounce his name?
- 2:20:37I didn't see it. Oh, it was rough.
- 2:20:40The whole day is literally was like, looked at him and then,
- 2:20:43and then he tried to say it again.
- 2:20:44It was rough, you know, if he was on his team, he would just
- 2:20:49call him bookie all the time. Oh, he would make something up
- 2:20:52for sure. 100%. Well, that's that first game.
- 2:20:56Let's go to the next set of games.
- 2:20:58All right, we have, we got, we got the international flavor
- 2:21:02with this one, with the Vikings playing two straight games in
- 2:21:05Europe, they overcome their travel leg, I guess to beat the
- 2:21:09Browns, 21 to 17, Jordan Addison with a touchdown late in that
- 2:21:12game to give the Vikings Elite and more dominance from Danny
- 2:21:16dimes and the Indianapolis Colts, 40 to 6 over the Raiders,
- 2:21:21who they won. The first game of the Stars.
- 2:21:23I can't get myself to talk about that yet.
- 2:21:27So let me talk about the Vikings.
- 2:21:29Did you see the thing that came out today?
- 2:21:30The Vikings said, one of their field goals was blocked by a
- 2:21:33string that. Was holding cameras in the
- 2:21:37stadium or something that they were complaining that one of
- 2:21:39their field goals missed the pulley cameras.
- 2:21:41Yeah. In over in London but I don't
- 2:21:44know, they still want. Anyway Jordan Addison was
- 2:21:46actually bench for the first quarter because he ditched the
- 2:21:50team curfew and went out on the town on in London by himself for
- 2:21:53the first time and then apologized, when he came back,
- 2:21:56sat him for the first quarter, he gets the game-winning
- 2:21:58touchdown. That guy's pretty good player,
- 2:22:00man. The Vikings it was Carson,
- 2:22:03Wentz. Carson Wentz was down for a
- 2:22:06second. He came back.
- 2:22:06They didn't know who the backup was with some like undrafted
- 2:22:09quarterback. I think supposed to come in
- 2:22:12Carson Wentz, still can kind of play, you know, make your
- 2:22:15stomach turn having as your quarterback but it was good
- 2:22:17enough to be the bad Brown seem Dillon Gabriel.
- 2:22:19His first start wasn't bad. I think he's the best
- 2:22:22quarterback, play that we've seen this year.
- 2:22:24Flacko is seems to be done at this point in his career.
- 2:22:27Gabriel might be okay. I mean he's undersized as we
- 2:22:30know, but I thought he was confident in that game and kept
- 2:22:33it closed. That's better than the Browns.
- 2:22:35Have done all seasons so no good start for him, I guess in the
- 2:22:38Lost. Yeah, I guess far as the Colts.
- 2:22:40Yeah, go ahead gets a good defense.
- 2:22:42I was impressed with Gabriel too, like showing some composure
- 2:22:45showing some smarts as well and it just, again the Browns they
- 2:22:49could only do so much with limited, offensive capabilities,
- 2:22:52offensive line injuries and he made it work.
- 2:22:54I will get them credit. So I see his first game in
- 2:22:56International League. Got some yeah, he made some
- 2:22:59throws that I didn't think he could make and there.
- 2:23:02I mean there was once where is like, you know, only only his
- 2:23:05player, get it and, you know, for coming into it like he's
- 2:23:09kind of in a lose-lose situation.
- 2:23:11Doesn't matter how great he does.
- 2:23:12They're still going to suck or doesn't matter how bad he does.
- 2:23:14They're still gonna suck. So, it kind of kind of robbed.
- 2:23:17So just go in ball out and do what you can.
- 2:23:20All right, I'll do it. I'm gonna talk about Daniel
- 2:23:23Jones. I just don't get it, man.
- 2:23:27I watched this guy. For what was it?
- 2:23:30Five years, Speedy, six years of the same thing over and over and
- 2:23:34over again. Making the same mistakes.
- 2:23:37There were times where he looked as good as he does right.
- 2:23:39Now there were times and he gave you the hope and I wanted to
- 2:23:44Believe In The Hope a lot. It's just never happened.
- 2:23:50We had that one playoff season, you know, in his second year
- 2:23:53with Dave's second year, it was Supposed to be growth from
- 2:23:59there. It didn't happen.
- 2:24:01What is he doing this year? Daniel Jones has a 701%
- 2:24:05completion percentage. He's got 1290 yards, six
- 2:24:09touchdowns to picks, he's running the ball, that's him is
- 2:24:13a juggernaut. They have a great offensive line
- 2:24:16behind And Quinton Nelson who is best guard in football, in my
- 2:24:21opinion. I mean, you can argue him or
- 2:24:24Lidstrom but I love Quinn and Nelson the way he plays.
- 2:24:27He's just awesome. You have Jonathan Taylor, who's
- 2:24:31the top five, running back in football, whoever drafted him,
- 2:24:35picked the right guy. This year, of course, it wasn't
- 2:24:37me, but I wanted him and I didn't I couldn't get him.
- 2:24:40Unfortunately, What a great job by him and then you have Tyler.
- 2:24:44Warren, who already is a top 5 tight ends immediately.
- 2:24:48For some reason, the Bears thought Loveland would be just
- 2:24:52as good as him not even close. Oh my God.
- 2:24:55Tyler Warren's great. And Michael Pittman's.
- 2:24:58A good receiver. Josh Downs is a good receiver
- 2:25:00and that defense Speedy. Tell us a little bit about that
- 2:25:03cold defense. That made Geno Smith, throw his
- 2:25:069th interception, which by the way, is the second most of in
- 2:25:10the first five games in NFL history behind whose Speedy
- 2:25:14Daniel Jones. Know it is.
- 2:25:19Jets Legends Zach Wilson. Oh okay I thought you were you
- 2:25:23built up Daniel Jonathan you're gonna go back to him.
- 2:25:25But speaking of Daniel Jones, before I get to my bid on that
- 2:25:28joining us from Florida, we have the host of our show coming.
- 2:25:33Right about some Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is a beast.
- 2:25:37That's all I'm gonna say about that.
- 2:25:39How did I tell you guys about Daniel Jones?
- 2:25:41I told you he's one of the best quarterbacks in the League this
- 2:25:44year. He's proven it weekend and week
- 2:25:46out. You don't need to figure
- 2:25:47anything out anymore. He is the quarterback of the
- 2:25:50future for the Indianapolis Colts.
- 2:25:51We saw it on Sunday once again, it doesn't matter who's going
- 2:25:55to, it doesn't matter who's running in the ball.
- 2:25:57If Fred Taylor, this guy is the best quarterback in the league
- 2:26:04right now. In the AFC, you can argue.
- 2:26:06He's been the most consistent one.
- 2:26:08You talked about the March action, Josh on the last night,
- 2:26:11losing against New England Patriots, this guy, weekend, and
- 2:26:14week out his showed off. And what he was supposed to do
- 2:26:16to me the two best quarterbacks, right?
- 2:26:18Now in the NFL is Daniel, Jones and Dak Prescott, there's no
- 2:26:23argument to that. I've been telling you about
- 2:26:25these two quarterbacks, they're up for the to me, the MVP, Most
- 2:26:28Valuable Player they've been Sensational on both sides.
- 2:26:31When you look at the NFC in the AAC, there's nobody that can
- 2:26:34challenge them in both the both conferences.
- 2:26:37I think they're both have been Sensational.
- 2:26:39They got to keep it up. They gotta keep playing the way
- 2:26:41they are doing it. But Daniel Jones, baby.
- 2:26:44Let's go on. Let's go for a title
- 2:26:47Indianapolis Colts. I got a dating time Jersey
- 2:26:50coming here. Baby coming here.
- 2:26:57Is that? Oh, I'm in my girlfriend's
- 2:27:00father's. Like, you know, this is his
- 2:27:03funeral over here. A seed room, I don't know, man,
- 2:27:06I, we got some sewing systems. We got all different things.
- 2:27:10I'm sitting here just enjoy myself wearing.
- 2:27:12By the way, it was like 90 95 degrees with the humidity today,
- 2:27:18it was horrible. I can't stand the weather and I
- 2:27:21was sweating my butt off and you know it's her father keeps the
- 2:27:25air conditioning up at 76. I mean, I'm sweating my balls
- 2:27:28off. I gotta put the fans on over
- 2:27:30here baby. 76, that's terrible. All right, let's move on to the
- 2:27:37next one. Yes.
- 2:27:37You're right. Daniel Jones, 71% completion.
- 2:27:41What I said? What did you say fish?
- 2:27:43Well, what did you say? See you would never do this.
- 2:27:45You were right arrow. What did you there you go.
- 2:27:48Now you can now you can come back and say I was right about
- 2:27:52Jackson Smith and Jigme Not yet. Join us for tomorrow's.
- 2:28:01Still not a full season yet. Let's wait.
- 2:28:05All right, we got the Broncos beating arrows.
- 2:28:08Second favorite team. The Eagles 21 to 17 and the
- 2:28:13Panthers in what a miserable game to watch.
- 2:28:16That was 27, 24 over the Dolphins, the Dolphins below
- 2:28:21that game, after being up, My God, I quickly on the Panthers
- 2:28:25Dolphins, game. Those teams are terrible.
- 2:28:27Don't watch Panthers or Dolphins football, the rest of the
- 2:28:30season. I don't see Bryce young, I guess
- 2:28:33if you let him hang around, he has enough juice in them to make
- 2:28:36come backs. But he's not particularly a good
- 2:28:39quarterback tag of Viola. This might be his last season as
- 2:28:42a starting quarterback too. A second, what is such a hold on
- 2:28:45a second, there was a record being broken in that game for
- 2:28:48the Carolina. Panthers, some running back that
- 2:28:52ran over 200 yards and absolutely dominated the line of
- 2:28:56scrimmage who was it was Legend. Rico dowdle.
- 2:29:00I'm rest my case. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a
- 2:29:03chance to see a world renown running back, run and break
- 2:29:07records for the Carolina Panthers, that was amazing.
- 2:29:10So to say it was an unwatchable game, watching what he did in
- 2:29:14the game was Sensational, you could take that to the bank with
- 2:29:19the yellow background. You could, you could have run
- 2:29:22for 95 yards against that defense, that defense is so bad.
- 2:29:26My goodness, but look the game that we want to talk about.
- 2:29:31Are these two Super Bowl, contending teams the Broncos and
- 2:29:34the Eagles at Broncos defense after that one snafu earlier in
- 2:29:38the season where I put my foot in my mouth there.
- 2:29:40Yes, I remember you're absolutely right.
- 2:29:43They had that bad game. They've been pretty darn good
- 2:29:45outside of that game this season.
- 2:29:47They were able to shut down A.J Brown.
- 2:29:50Yet again, he is not done, much all season Devonta, Smith had a
- 2:29:54good game. Landon Dickerson went down in
- 2:29:56this game. They're having some issues on
- 2:29:57the line, the Eagles, they're not moving the ball the same
- 2:29:59way, you know, it's it's a problem for them.
- 2:30:02Hopefully, you know, they continue to suck and get
- 2:30:05injuries and lose, and don't come back and repeat.
- 2:30:08That's all I have to say about the Eagles.
- 2:30:09Yeah, I want to mention it by them.
- 2:30:11They're really good team. I want to mention with the
- 2:30:12Broncos because I think they were a team that's closed for a
- 2:30:15while like that a close loss to the charters, they lost against
- 2:30:18the Colts. When Danny dimes had that coming
- 2:30:21out party against you would say, it gets the top defense and
- 2:30:24really showed what he could do and this cult system.
- 2:30:26And then you look at you, look at the Broncos, they I'll play
- 2:30:30the charters, like you're saying with with a couple teams
- 2:30:32earlier, just had some costly turnovers in that game but
- 2:30:35they're losing. They were like big.
- 2:30:37I don't know if you know the deserve to win meter and hockey
- 2:30:39fish. If they had one of those for
- 2:30:41football like the Broncos probably would have been higher
- 2:30:43rate than a lot of those teams. Now they finally get one to go
- 2:30:46their way very impressive, come back because a very tough
- 2:30:48defense. yeah, I kind of was going back and forth with Carter
- 2:30:53and, you know, he is just like, It's not gonna tap in, then it
- 2:30:59happened, and then whatever. But, yeah, that game was fun to
- 2:31:01watch from start to finish. And, you know, I was checking in
- 2:31:04here and there, but, yeah, just the ending.
- 2:31:06I was locked in and It'll be interesting to see how how they
- 2:31:11play out for the rest of the year.
- 2:31:12I think they got a shot bow. Next was unbelievable in the
- 2:31:15fourth quarter. You guys forget this boat next
- 2:31:17to about 100 yards in the fourth quarter, absolutely dominated
- 2:31:20the line of scrimmage. She dominated the Eagles
- 2:31:22defense, which really you can argue was been the best defense.
- 2:31:25People all around defense in the NFL all season long Fat, Joe is
- 2:31:30one of the best defensive coordinators in the league and
- 2:31:32he couldn't stop Bo Nicks. Sean had a great game plan in
- 2:31:35the second half of the game when they were being completely
- 2:31:37dominated. And the first half by The
- 2:31:39Eagles, Jalen hurts could not do anything really in the second
- 2:31:42half and it was a complete domination defensively.
- 2:31:45It was a matter of different hats.
- 2:31:47It went from domination for the Eagles in the first two
- 2:31:51domination of the Broncos in the second half and it was bonex
- 2:31:54bonix. I Could Sing Everything.
- 2:31:57It's still a sophomore year friend.
- 2:31:58I want to see what he's going to do all freaking season but he
- 2:32:01was Sensational on the fourth quarter, absolutely outdoor jail
- 2:32:05in hertz. Outdoored that Eagles Ads.
- 2:32:09Congratulations to Sean, Sean Payne, who I think is one of the
- 2:32:11more Successful offensive, coordinators and offensive
- 2:32:15Minds. We've seen in NFL history and be
- 2:32:18reading him, a two of the best of all time.
- 2:32:20And by the way, one comes from the West Coast offense and the
- 2:32:24other comes from Bill Parcells All right.
- 2:32:29Moving on with game. I was talking about in my side
- 2:32:31of the day. The Cardinals at the collapse
- 2:32:33against the Titans, win 2221, and then the Ravens, maybe hit
- 2:32:36rock, bottom losing 44 to 10 to the Texas.
- 2:32:39So Cooper Rush. Is not Lamar Jackson.
- 2:32:46You know, the Texas, don't worry the beef, so he's better than
- 2:32:48that. So here's my problem with this
- 2:32:51game. CJ Stroud has really struggled
- 2:32:53this season, and now he gets his offensive Line's bad, but the
- 2:32:57Ravens have Statistically the worst defense in the NFL, and
- 2:33:01that continues after this, 44 to 10 loss against the team that
- 2:33:03couldn't do anything offensively against a lot of teams.
- 2:33:06But when you give CJ, Stroud, time, My goodness, does he throw
- 2:33:11a pretty ball? Does he seem to always hit it on
- 2:33:14the money? This is just a guy that needs
- 2:33:16protection. If they give him protection,
- 2:33:18that Texas, that Texas team is real good, man.
- 2:33:20They could be real talent. They still have good young
- 2:33:23players on that defense. I don't think they're quite
- 2:33:26there yet, because I don't think they have the Personnel on the
- 2:33:28line, at least the offense of line, but they're not as bad as
- 2:33:33they looked early in the season, the Ravens, on the other hands.
- 2:33:37This could be the year from hell for them.
- 2:33:38If Lamar doesn't come back, quick and start winning
- 2:33:41immediately. I don't, I don't think this is a
- 2:33:44playoff team, and it could get ugly real quick.
- 2:33:46And we could see coaches leaving.
- 2:33:48They're already talking about defensive coordinator might be
- 2:33:50fired. John Harbaugh said he's not
- 2:33:52gonna do it. He might have to change his mind
- 2:33:55if it gets better and I got nothing to say on that tight in
- 2:33:57this Cardinals debacle you said it all in the state of the week
- 2:34:00speeding? Yeah I'll skip that because I
- 2:34:02said that already just a weird clap from the car and all but
- 2:34:04yeah, from The Raven standpoint you can't imagine a, a defense
- 2:34:08that has this much talent playing as bad as they have.
- 2:34:10I knew they had some maybe some Edge Rush depth concerns.
- 2:34:13But he's on that beyond that, they seemingly loaded Zach, or
- 2:34:17was being interviewed, not as a main Canon, but interviewed for
- 2:34:20head coaching positions and since then, what is this defense
- 2:34:23doing? It's just makes no sense against
- 2:34:25the worst offensive line in football and you can't even
- 2:34:27generate. Anything is is definitely
- 2:34:30concerning for the Ravens. They might again, it's the
- 2:34:32Steelers leading the division. Maybe they still squeak it out,
- 2:34:35but if they do it they'll get in and maybe like ten and seven at
- 2:34:39best. Yeah.
- 2:34:40It's it's it's weird when you see all these teams be
- 2:34:43successful and then like they get old and its weird to see.
- 2:34:47But yeah if I think it just shows how valuable Lamar is to
- 2:34:53that team and if he doesn't come back, it's I think the ship is
- 2:34:59sale. If he doesn't come back, I don't
- 2:35:01know what they'll do without him.
- 2:35:02And obviously it's definitely showing I'm gonna let you guys
- 2:35:05know I got I got a secret that the AFC North Pittsburgh sucks.
- 2:35:09They don't have a quarterback. I don't care what anybody says
- 2:35:12and that goes for Aaron Rodgers, the Browns, they suck their
- 2:35:16fighting, they don't even know who their quarterback is.
- 2:35:18And by the way, the Bengals don't have Joker.
- 2:35:21Oh they're fine. The more Jackson is fine, the
- 2:35:24Baltimore Ravens of fine, they'll get him back in time.
- 2:35:26They'll sneak into the playoffs, they'll win the division, and
- 2:35:29they'll find a way in the playoffs.
- 2:35:31I don't think anybody in the NFC is scaring.
- 2:35:33As far as I'm concerned, he's been the best all-around.
- 2:35:37He is, he really for the first four and a half five weeks.
- 2:35:41So I don't think there's anything being scared or thought
- 2:35:44about about John Harbaugh, losing his job.
- 2:35:46Coaching away. This team is in the worst from
- 2:35:51the best division. One of the Talk to divisions and
- 2:35:53football to one of the worst divisions in football, you can
- 2:35:57sell a New England. They look like they're a team.
- 2:36:00They can sneak into the playoffs.
- 2:36:01Congratulations to them. I'm not going to say anything
- 2:36:03about them buffaloes. Definitely making a playoffs and
- 2:36:06Miami just sucks. And so they just so I I'm
- 2:36:09telling you right now Baltimore spies, everybody's got to stop
- 2:36:13with this. They look bad, they're defense.
- 2:36:15This team will figure it out. The March accident is one of the
- 2:36:17more prolific, more talented offensive gifts, the Baltimore
- 2:36:21Ravens have ever had in their in their in their past and all the
- 2:36:25way to their future. Give it to Lamar, he'll be back
- 2:36:27soon. Don't worry, fans.
- 2:36:28Joe Brown might sneak that Bangles team in as well.
- 2:36:31Well, that Bangles our next song on the whip around.
- 2:36:34They have fallen into the lions 3024 and the commanders with
- 2:36:40Jayden, Daniels returning dominating against the Chargers
- 2:36:4327 to 10. The Lions stacking wasn't close
- 2:36:48that they scored late in the game.
- 2:36:50Jamarr. Chase got two garbage time.
- 2:36:51Touchdowns that was a massacre. It was the massacre.
- 2:36:54Everyone expected. That Browning is terrible.
- 2:36:56I picked the Lions defense up off the scrap Heap, just to play
- 2:36:59him this week in fantasy and I was 100%, right?
- 2:37:02And I only got screwed because of the garbage time touchdowns
- 2:37:04should have got another four or five points.
- 2:37:06That's a bad team and we said it before the season, Joe burrow
- 2:37:10was gonna have to make Miracles himself to make that team, a
- 2:37:12winning team. And then, he got her right away
- 2:37:14because they didn't protect him. They had no defense.
- 2:37:17Their offense is garbage. Without burrow.
- 2:37:19They have a quarterback that turns it over.
- 2:37:21They're going nowhere Ariel. You'd make a good point about
- 2:37:24the AFC North being so soft. That the, the Ravens could come
- 2:37:27back, but the NFC North, the Lions, everyone.
- 2:37:31You know, saying all he lost his assistant, coaches, it's going
- 2:37:34to be a down here for the Lions. Ah, that's quite a powerful
- 2:37:39franchise. They still have the two-headed
- 2:37:41monster of Gibson Montgomery, who both look, fantastic.
- 2:37:44They still got on Monroe, Saint Brown.
- 2:37:47And Sam laporta that's and they got Jameson Williams taken the
- 2:37:50top off. That's a really good offense.
- 2:37:52That's a really good line with Penny, Sewell, the best tackle
- 2:37:55and football, arguably. That's a great team and the
- 2:37:58commanders, guess what? They got, Jayden, Daniels back
- 2:38:00and the Chargers have no line. And just like I said, they won't
- 2:38:03be able to do anything wrong. I don't know what you're trying
- 2:38:06to look at here. I don't know what that is.
- 2:38:09Stuff. Is that just some kind of album
- 2:38:11cover and a picture on the wall? I don't know what it is.
- 2:38:14I don't know what it is. Well maybe it's maybe it's you
- 2:38:17know Jayden Daniels you know dream to to play so well that he
- 2:38:23can be referenced in a segment. While that picture is also
- 2:38:25referenced because Jayden Daniels was a dominator in this
- 2:38:29game, nowadays back healthy or healthy ish.
- 2:38:32You know, it took him a little bit to get going that teams good
- 2:38:35with Jayden Daniels and that defense is good enough to be a
- 2:38:38bad offensive line. So it wasn't surprised.
- 2:38:40Yeah. And the Chargers like you said,
- 2:38:42the decimated with the offensive line, it really revolves around
- 2:38:45their running game, getting anything going.
- 2:38:46Now, they lost tomorrow in Hampton to injury, he's gonna
- 2:38:48miss some time, so they're gonna have to try to be the opposite
- 2:38:51of what they normally are. And that's Greg Robin offense,
- 2:38:53which is like, passing attack that's gonna be tough to come
- 2:38:56by, but Washington's defense. You got to give them some credit
- 2:38:58too. They were able to still play
- 2:38:59well and it's some of the secondary issues that they've
- 2:39:01had a certain points. This year, they still played
- 2:39:03really well in the front seven, and Dan Quinn deserves a lot of
- 2:39:06credit for the way even with during Jane Daniels in.
- 2:39:09His making that kind of thing. Worked the Lions.
- 2:39:10Yeah, the staying a juggernaut, and the Bengals might we offer
- 2:39:14you one Russell Wilson, maybe to save your season while the
- 2:39:16Ravens are falling apart too. That's tough.
- 2:39:21That's tough. Yeah.
- 2:39:22I mean Commanders. It's fun to watch those and
- 2:39:25holding together. Like you said with Jayden
- 2:39:27Daniels. I mean, the Bengals is
- 2:39:29interesting to see how long will be out.
- 2:39:31And to see if, if Zach Taylor still has a job that that'll be
- 2:39:34interesting to to kind of see how that plays itself out.
- 2:39:38We've kind of seen that kind of be a topic of conversation
- 2:39:42lately and the Lions. I mean, there's just they have
- 2:39:45so many ways to beat you so many weapons.
- 2:39:47And obviously, they thought it was going to be a big deal that
- 2:39:50they lost. Everybody is as the coaching
- 2:39:52staff. But as we've seen, they coaching
- 2:39:55staff doesn't play the game. Those guys that they have on the
- 2:39:57field can share, play the game. They're showing Ross is but I
- 2:40:02don't want to hear about Ross. Okay, I have to take that away
- 2:40:06and plaster it somewhere else because I don't want to hear
- 2:40:09about Russell. Wilson will save the Bangles
- 2:40:12season. Stop with this garbage.
- 2:40:14The lions are fantastic. They got one of the best running
- 2:40:16games at football. We all know what a guy like
- 2:40:18Jamir games, keep bringing to the table.
- 2:40:20We know what Montgomery David Montgomery is as a running.
- 2:40:23Back, we know what this offense, could be with Saint Brown
- 2:40:26playing on all cylinders. There's no arguments to the
- 2:40:29strengths and the weaknesses of the Lions.
- 2:40:31The Bengals, if Joe Barrel comes back in week, nine week 10, they
- 2:40:35still have a chance because they're in a really bad AFC
- 2:40:38North they'd all look good. I think their defense is really,
- 2:40:41really bad even when Hendrickson there you know that Hendrickson
- 2:40:44doesn't want to be there. You can see the way he is
- 2:40:47playing even though he's playing very good football, he's not as
- 2:40:51aggressive as he's been over the years because I feel like she
- 2:40:54wants to take care of his body and make sure that he's healthy
- 2:40:57next year, so he can get his long-term deal.
- 2:40:59So I don't think the Bengals are playing on all cylinders
- 2:41:02exactly. There's gonna be looking for a
- 2:41:04new job. If this team lose, this makes it
- 2:41:06doesn't make the playoffs. But here's the funny thing about
- 2:41:08the Bengals. The Bangles and Joe burrow, just
- 2:41:11think about his career, he gets hurt.
- 2:41:14He's healthy gets hurt, he's healthy.
- 2:41:17He gets hurt his career. As pretty, much falling into
- 2:41:21place. Has come back Player of the
- 2:41:23Year. You see the numbers that he is?
- 2:41:24You see what he can bring to the table.
- 2:41:26When he plays a full season. It's bad news for The Bangles,
- 2:41:30as far as the command is in charge, is here's the problem.
- 2:41:32Right now with the charges, the charges have lost two games.
- 2:41:35In a row against two teams that they're better than the
- 2:41:38commanders are a good team. We all know what Daniel's brings
- 2:41:41to the table. Jaime, Daniels is coming back
- 2:41:43from an injury. He's not 100%, you saw that in
- 2:41:46the second half, he started to figure things out, and that's
- 2:41:49because the Chargers defense kind of step back.
- 2:41:52They played prevent defense, they LED chain and Daniel's get
- 2:41:55comfortable in the pocket. You saw that on Sunday, the
- 2:41:58Chargers right now, Jim Harbaugh, you know, there's not
- 2:42:01a lot of things that he said at the press conference pretty much
- 2:42:03we're not playing our game. We gotta figure this out.
- 2:42:05We have the ability to be as good as a team at football.
- 2:42:08We know that the commanders, they're dangerous if the
- 2:42:11commanders played like this and they can run the ball as Well,
- 2:42:14as they had with the three-headed monster that they
- 2:42:17bring to the table, they don't need Robertson, they don't need
- 2:42:20star running back. So they just need a dish of guys
- 2:42:23that can give you a little different kinds of putting or
- 2:42:25Jello. You can see the difference of
- 2:42:27this team when they're playing on all Sailors.
- 2:42:29And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, I told you how
- 2:42:32important people is going to be in this office, send
- 2:42:36Sensational. As we say, he's both Sensational
- 2:42:40since he's come to the Washington Commanders.
- 2:42:42Yeah, Bill crosskey, Merit the running back from the seventh
- 2:42:46round, two touchdowns in this game.
- 2:42:47Last one, Speedy. Yeah.
- 2:42:49Last won the Thursday night game.
- 2:42:50The Niners win a thriller against the Rams, 26 to 23, and
- 2:42:54the New England Patriots. Give the Buffalo Bills, their
- 2:42:57first loss of the season, and the 72 Dolphins can celebrate.
- 2:43:00Again, somebody called me after this San Francisco game, okay?
- 2:43:04This man had the audacity to call me after the game, the San
- 2:43:10Francisco game and tell me Kyle, Shanahan who and you know who
- 2:43:16I'm talking about? Oh this guy's lost, he tells me.
- 2:43:24Oh, look what he's doing with this quarterback.
- 2:43:27This guy's this guy's washed up. This guy isn't God complete.
- 2:43:32Okay, San Francisco. They look good.
- 2:43:35That doesn't scare me. They played a team.
- 2:43:37Honestly, the Rams have been up and down.
- 2:43:40This is not on all around. Good Rams team.
- 2:43:42Even shows up on week, they're often shows up the next.
- 2:43:45They don't play on all cylinders poking, the coolest Sensational,
- 2:43:49they can run the ball with Williams.
- 2:43:50How long is this going to last and Matthew Stafford and injury
- 2:43:54from quarterback? Could you stop owing?
- 2:43:56Could you, stop reaching out to me?
- 2:43:58And telling me about Kyle Shanahan, he's stinks.
- 2:44:00This team stinks with the easiest schedule in the NFL,
- 2:44:04wash your mouth with some soapy, wash your mouth with some soap.
- 2:44:09You see the veins. You can sell that.
- 2:44:11I love you always and I can't wait until you.
- 2:44:14Come on the show you add that little dress lipstick and nice
- 2:44:17beautiful wig. Because when you're dressed up
- 2:44:19in that Sensational Halloween costume, I will be laughing as
- 2:44:24you will be the new. What's this guy?
- 2:44:26This serial killer on Netflix? Yeah, that's actually looks like
- 2:44:29that. Yeah, he told me he called you
- 2:44:35and I just started. I was like, I can only know
- 2:44:37where this conversation went. So I was, I was waiting.
- 2:44:42I was didn't know if you're gonna come on, I was gonna ask
- 2:44:44you about it on Thursday, but oh yeah, I was like, oh boy.
- 2:44:49He just just add fuel to the fire on that one.
- 2:44:52I I missed. Say this I miss someone and
- 2:44:55mowing Owens mowing Owen actually said he misses us and
- 2:44:59he hopes that he can eventually come back and add a little bit
- 2:45:04of content to the show. And I told him, well, let's talk
- 2:45:07off there and I miss you too. Oh, you're crazy.
- 2:45:10You lost your mind and you can tell me whatever you want.
- 2:45:13You're in Nebraska feeling. You're Omaha Omaha.
- 2:45:17Nebraska feeling. That's not going to sell me
- 2:45:20about how bad San Francisco is all around.
- 2:45:23This is not a good team stopped selling it and I don't want to
- 2:45:26hear by you by week. Nine week 10.
- 2:45:29Oops gonna be back. By the way, congratulations to
- 2:45:33the Patriots, institutional game and the fourth quarter, great
- 2:45:37coaching by Fray ball, and this is why they have the right coach
- 2:45:40in place over there. With the New England Patriots,
- 2:45:42I'll play the Bills. Play great defense in the second
- 2:45:45half and shut Josh Allen down. Yeah I was gonna comment on the
- 2:45:49same thing, the defense of the Patriots, the game plan of
- 2:45:52Rebel, the halftime adjustments or just have time and that was
- 2:45:56huge as a master class. You know, there's only so many
- 2:46:00teams that are able to stop you know, to maintain Josh Allen.
- 2:46:03They were able to do it Josh Allen, you know, it's been fine
- 2:46:06to start. The year maybe isn't putting up
- 2:46:08mind-blowing numbers. I, I know you're saying, you
- 2:46:11know, we got Baker and Daniel Jones.
- 2:46:12I I'm still going with. Josh Allen is the MVP.
- 2:46:15You know I I think when it's all said and done that's the guy if
- 2:46:18you can get good I'll go get him back cross.
- 2:46:21God's been the best quarterback in the NFL.
- 2:46:23They're going to win. But they're gonna win seven
- 2:46:26games that I think he's gonna be put up putting up this year.
- 2:46:32There's no way you can argue it, he has been the best quarterback
- 2:46:35in the NFL all season long. You want to talk about what he
- 2:46:39has done and they don't have a defense, and they're still
- 2:46:42winning games right now. Don't stop talking bad about
- 2:46:45this guy. This guy.
- 2:46:46Yes. Yeah, I would say this Daniel
- 2:46:49Jones is a better chance currently than him because that
- 2:46:52teams better and they're gonna win more games and you don't
- 2:46:54give an MVPs are not losing teams, they just never are.
- 2:46:57I don't care how good a quarterback is, what a second.
- 2:47:00You're gonna tell me that actually get that team in a
- 2:47:02while card that you can't get that team in a while card.
- 2:47:05I'd be shocked if they go 500, really shots.
- 2:47:07See the land is not even in the lineup, you crazy.
- 2:47:10But then you Defense is ranked in the top.
- 2:47:18Sorry, I was right now. Real Point here played well,
- 2:47:38stop it, stop it. They don't have a star, they
- 2:47:41don't have a STAR Court. They don't start corner, and
- 2:47:43they don't really have a star Castro and they still doing what
- 2:47:46they're supposed to be doing. I know he's not gonna tell me
- 2:47:54you don't sell me dicks. He's not he's not a topping one
- 2:48:06stops. What do you?
- 2:48:14He's good, he's good. He's five years ago now.
- 2:48:19He's still a good player, man. He still could play Stop store
- 2:48:22on. He's still a good player.
- 2:48:23Stop it, stop it. I'm not I'm not gonna get out.
- 2:48:26I'm gonna give you another one. That makes you want to get out
- 2:48:29of here about Dante followers. He's bad, he's bad 32, he's
- 2:48:33watching that. He's got.
- 2:48:35You leave between the lines. You are.
- 2:48:45In the Lions ready? That's what I'm gonna say.
- 2:48:52That's what I'm gonna say. Your damn mind the Cowboys right
- 2:48:56now and their defense has been a lot better than you say.
- 2:48:59They are. It's been one of the best
- 2:49:01defensive players in the league. Stop it.
- 2:49:07No, I'm not gonna do that Matt Jones, by the way.
- 2:49:11Was the guy that many people thought Kyle Shanahan wanted in
- 2:49:14that Draft when he kind of changed his mind and took Trey
- 2:49:17Lance Mac Jones in this game. 33 of 49 342 passing yards, two
- 2:49:23touchdowns leaves them to the victory.
- 2:49:25Who does he get most of the passing yards?
- 2:49:26To Old Patriots, buddy, Kendrick, born ten catches 142
- 2:49:30yards, but the big story was this bill's collapse against the
- 2:49:35Patriots. Let's finish this up, Speedy.
- 2:49:38What do you got on vrabel's masterclass?
- 2:49:40I'm it's interesting because Rebels actually did that a lot
- 2:49:44with the Titans so they played up to good teams.
- 2:49:46A lot of the time they played down the bad and sometimes the
- 2:49:49talent deficiencies with their passing in the Titans, held them
- 2:49:51back. It's turned into they, they, I
- 2:49:53think, besides, the playoff game and I think one of their game
- 2:49:56against the Chiefs, I think they were like five and two against
- 2:49:58the Chiefs, they played very well against the Ravens,
- 2:50:00including that playoff win that they had like, they play up to a
- 2:50:03lot of these good teams. And I think this is another case
- 2:50:06of that where obviously the division games, sometimes you do
- 2:50:09play the, you do play those. Games closer and that defense
- 2:50:12tells us a lot of credit considering all the injuries.
- 2:50:14I think they've had throughout the year.
- 2:50:15All this new pieces going all at once.
- 2:50:17I think we're able to defendant job.
- 2:50:20It's setting the circumstances and considering all the
- 2:50:22offensive issues that they had like making those newer
- 2:50:24receivers making. It work reminders, Stevenson the
- 2:50:27fumble but the beginning but then played well after that and
- 2:50:29the Patriots definitely has a lot of credit.
- 2:50:31This is a team that's definitely on the rise and now they get the
- 2:50:33adversity when to go along with it.
- 2:50:37Time job. You got anything to add?
- 2:50:38Or we got we're gonna finish whipping it around here.
- 2:50:42Nope, you guys covered it all. I think we did and that has been
- 2:50:46yet another whip around for week, five of the NFL.
- 2:50:50But normally in this spot Arrow, we would go to a break.
- 2:50:54We have something special plant tonight that we haven't really
- 2:50:57done. I made sure we got a couple of
- 2:50:59Penn State fans, ready to come on.
- 2:51:03You guys can both come into the screen right now.
- 2:51:06I'm going to put you on the side.
- 2:51:08I want to welcome our old intern, a big Penn Stater, and
- 2:51:14my brother-in-law. Our Mando horta coming on in to
- 2:51:18talk about their beloved Penn State Nittany Lions.
- 2:51:23Let me give you the read. I have here and then we'll get
- 2:51:26into it in the most shocking upset of the college football
- 2:51:30season so far. And, perhaps, in many seasons,
- 2:51:33winless UCLA with an interim staff, son, number 7, Penn State
- 2:51:3842 to 307 since 19. They are the are only the fourth
- 2:51:44team ranked in the top 10 to lose to a winless team and the
- 2:51:48first team. Since number 7 BYU was upset by
- 2:51:52UTEP in 1985, not sure that might have been Steve Young's
- 2:51:56team UCLA came into the game. Owen 4 and had fired their head
- 2:52:01coach in both coordinators after a lost in New Mexico on
- 2:52:04September 14th. Despite the odds UCLA LED at
- 2:52:07halftime 27/7, the largest halftime deficit.
- 2:52:11Penn State has ever had versus unranked opponent.
- 2:52:13After the win new offensive coordinator former UCLA
- 2:52:17quarterback and the son of former UCLA head coach Rick.
- 2:52:20Neuheisel Jerry, new heizel was given a Gatorade bath and
- 2:52:24carried off the field. Projected, first round NFL draft
- 2:52:28prospect Drew Aller, had just 200 passing yards and two
- 2:52:32touchdowns, including just 64. In the first half hour was also
- 2:52:36the leading rusher. And again, with 78 yards, the
- 2:52:38northern normally Dynamic do on of, Duo of Kate, Tron, Allen,
- 2:52:42and Nicholas Singleton. We're held to only 89 yards.
- 2:52:45Combined, many fans are calling for head, coach James Franklin,
- 2:52:49to be fired after this laws. Following the devastating double
- 2:52:52OT laws to Oregon at home the week before.
- 2:52:54If Franklin were to be fired, his buy out is an estimated 56
- 2:52:59million dollars as he is only in year.
- 2:53:01Five of a 10 year, 75 million dollar contract signed back in
- 2:53:062021. So let me tell you a little bit
- 2:53:09about what I know about James Franklin before we get into this
- 2:53:13because I don't think just going to be a lot of positive things
- 2:53:15said about Coach Frankland, I do have some positive things to say
- 2:53:19about him. When I was, I guess this was
- 2:53:22sequence breakout year when he was at Penn State.
- 2:53:25I got, I was lucky enough. I went with a friend, a
- 2:53:29colleague that I coached with Coach bachia brought me down to
- 2:53:34Penn State. We got an invite.
- 2:53:35He was the former position coach of their, at the time, offensive
- 2:53:40coordinator, Joe Morehead, who had this really great Innovative
- 2:53:43offense as the offensive coordinator of Penn State.
- 2:53:46It was kind of like, RPO everything, but he took it to a
- 2:53:49whole nother level where there were four options on every
- 2:53:52single play, including like, down the field options.
- 2:53:55I thought it was remarkable and it wasn't surprising.
- 2:53:57That that team went was finished the year.
- 2:53:59Ranked number two, while I was there, it was like first class
- 2:54:03treatment by Franklin, and his staff.
- 2:54:05I mean, they gave us beers, they, let us go talk to all
- 2:54:09their coaches. They let us sit in on Spring
- 2:54:11practice, they'll let us ask questions.
- 2:54:13They let us draw stuff up. We got full access to literally
- 2:54:17everything we wanted and he was just an awesome stand-up guy.
- 2:54:20He would He at one point sat right behind me, just at one of
- 2:54:24the clinics session because he was just checking up on his
- 2:54:26guys. It's not surprising why people
- 2:54:29like him so much. that being said, seems to lose all the big
- 2:54:35games. Routinely over and over and over
- 2:54:39again. Speedy, you're gonna have to
- 2:54:41tell me what the exact stat was, but I know that we said the week
- 2:54:44before I think it might have been a Tic-Tac know, it was in
- 2:54:46Tic-Tac know, it was four and 21 against against top 10 teams
- 2:54:51since he since it became Penn State's head coach, which was
- 2:54:55the, which was the second worst Earth or third worst, ever only
- 2:54:59to Hugh freeze and Javis. Guy, Matt rhule win percentage
- 2:55:03was not the type of company that you're trying to keep as far as
- 2:55:07being successful, you know, if I, if I was a Penn State fan,
- 2:55:11which I'm not, I went to school in Buffalo, they were bad
- 2:55:16football program. When I was there, I didn't
- 2:55:17really get into college football the same way that some people
- 2:55:20do. Usually if you go to a big
- 2:55:21football school but I know Penn State fans love themselves, some
- 2:55:25Penn State State College. It's a whole culture over there.
- 2:55:28I mean, before we get to talk to you guys, I mean, I didn't
- 2:55:31expect to have you on Arrow. Did you catch any of this game?
- 2:55:34Yeah, I watched the whole game and it's not Franklin's full.
- 2:55:37You guys gotta stop this shit. This is the I took them one game
- 2:55:42away from going to a national championship last year.
- 2:55:44You're going to sit here and you're gonna point fingers,
- 2:55:46you're gonna say, oh well he can't win big games Bob out.
- 2:55:49He was one game away from going to a big game so stop this crap.
- 2:55:53You're gonna fire somebody. You're gonna toss into the
- 2:55:55ground because the Penn State, the stands still make it stop
- 2:56:00it. This is a team that's still
- 2:56:02going to the tournament. They're still gonna get into 12,
- 2:56:04team tournament, they still capable of winning a national
- 2:56:08championship, he got to stop this garbage.
- 2:56:10I know everybody wants to point and say, somebody's not good,
- 2:56:13and not this and not that it was a bad game.
- 2:56:15They lost a very bad game that happened.
- 2:56:18There's always games that make you look bad.
- 2:56:21I don't care if it happened at 1936 or 1800.
- 2:56:24This guy took his team almost to a national championship last
- 2:56:28year. So, stop this garbage, but
- 2:56:30they're not ranking anymore, though.
- 2:56:31Errol and doesn't matter to me, right?
- 2:56:33It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- 2:56:34You can't make top 12 if you're not ranked.
- 2:56:37They're gonna make top 12. What, what's the record?
- 2:56:40Write a 4-1 2. They lost the Oregon and they
- 2:56:42lost the four two. Okay?
- 2:56:44So if you, if they lose another game, they're out.
- 2:56:46All right, they're out. But they still have a chance to
- 2:56:49make it. They still have a chance and
- 2:56:51their schedule, their schedule still Falls.
- 2:56:54In those points. If they went out their games and
- 2:56:57they figure it out, they could still make the tournament.
- 2:56:59This is still a very good team for anybody to sit here and say,
- 2:57:02oh well they lost against the UCL.
- 2:57:04You see UCLA's very good recruits.
- 2:57:06They've got three guys. That could be first round
- 2:57:08talents going into this coming class.
- 2:57:10So to say that they're not good enough and you can't see
- 2:57:14Championship. Now you see all he's not winning
- 2:57:16any chips, they fire their coaches.
- 2:57:17We all know what they did. It doesn't mean they don't have
- 2:57:20talented players over there. And I said, this about the Penn
- 2:57:23State quarterback, a lot of fans like this kid.
- 2:57:26He's the first round talent. I don't know if he is, I think
- 2:57:29he's the second round early guy. I don't think he's a first round
- 2:57:33Talent, this quarterback place is going to be very intriguing
- 2:57:36and very interesting. How everything falls because I
- 2:57:38think we know who's gonna be in the top five looking for a
- 2:57:41quarterback. That's all I'm gonna say about
- 2:57:43this. I know you Penn State fans don't
- 2:57:45like it and you hate this guy. This guy is still a good coach.
- 2:57:48He's and one of the more respected coaches in college
- 2:57:53football. That's all I'm gonna say about
- 2:57:54that job. I know you're a big college
- 2:57:56football fan, you know, I know in the brass gets had their
- 2:57:59their struggles. But I don't think even Nebraska
- 2:58:03played a team where they're coaching staff Jerry like Jerry
- 2:58:07new heizel. He said that he hadn't even
- 2:58:09practice wearing a headset before.
- 2:58:12Not once they had just made him offensive coordinator this week,
- 2:58:15the kids 27. He was their quarterback decade
- 2:58:19ago, less than a decade ago. it's Pretty embarrassing, man.
- 2:58:24Like, I know you had that big letdown against Oregon.
- 2:58:29But you can't come back out like that.
- 2:58:31That's that's crazy. Unless Jerry Jerry new highs was
- 2:58:35the next Bill Belichick. Somehow, I mean not he's already
- 2:58:38surpassed Bill Belichick in college football.
- 2:58:39The way he's coaching well that's a slightly different
- 2:58:43story but job I like how do you how do you rationalize something
- 2:58:46like this? I don't, I mean, it's tough.
- 2:58:50Anything with Penn State, though?
- 2:58:51I cheered against him because a good old as a Husker.
- 2:58:55It's it's tough. So anything good?
- 2:58:57That happens in crappy Valley. You're all good.
- 2:58:58No. I actually, I had a great
- 2:59:01experience there. My manager was, he went to Penn
- 2:59:05State, but I I think like, for me, the game was was very
- 2:59:09interesting, but as a dad, it was a really, really cool.
- 2:59:12Dad moment to watch Rick new Hazel's, watch his son, you
- 2:59:16know, do something really cool and I don't know if you guys saw
- 2:59:18it but you know, he was he was on the dais doing.
- 2:59:21I don't even know who he works for.
- 2:59:24But just to watch her son and how proud he was, was super
- 2:59:27cool. And, you know, to see Penn State
- 2:59:30kind of just he doesn't win big games, but he's also win that he
- 2:59:36can. I don't think it's all on him.
- 2:59:38It's just I think it's magnified when you've been as good as he
- 2:59:42is. That it's kind of fell into what
- 2:59:44it is right now and everybody likes to have the good old red
- 2:59:48panic button, ready to hit. But I don't think you get it on
- 2:59:51me. He's been too good for too long.
- 2:59:52That I don't think it's it's ready to throw everything to the
- 2:59:56Wayside. He got Speedy.
- 3:00:00I was gonna mention like a lot of the times.
- 3:00:02When you see his down games in Penn State it's more two things
- 3:00:06more to the end of the season and More in lower scoring
- 3:00:09fashion to see in higher scoring fashion, losing a defensive
- 3:00:11shootout with a defense. That's been known as the front
- 3:00:15seven. Especially linebacker Factory
- 3:00:17for years is crazy to think I thought 2023 for Penn State was
- 3:00:22their best shot. That was their best all-around
- 3:00:24team, and they ended up blowing at that year, losing to Michigan
- 3:00:29when Michigan. This was right during the
- 3:00:31beginning of the Scandal. So they were with an assistant.
- 3:00:33They were with an interim coach at the time because Harbaugh got
- 3:00:36suspended. Yeah, that was one of the three
- 3:00:38games, and I think they Michigan beat him by 14, or something
- 3:00:41like that. And even before that losing
- 3:00:43Ohio, State West are resident betting guys.
- 3:00:46Whose Buckeyes fan was Tech. Texting me a couple weeks before
- 3:00:49that, he was very often that Penn State team, the way they
- 3:00:51were all around and that game. So I thought that was their best
- 3:00:54shot. I would have made the move.
- 3:00:55Then again, the buyout decision, just re-extend and makes it very
- 3:00:59Tough. But at this point, like, I just
- 3:01:02seems kind of stale, like, you're gonna get the same kind
- 3:01:04of result, and I think they've hurt dualers, development, too.
- 3:01:07Like they kept Sean Clifford in the game in the, in the games
- 3:01:11for the 2023 season. When alert was ready at that
- 3:01:14point too. And I think I think it happened
- 3:01:17here, I think it definitely affected him where he might look
- 3:01:20good on paper, but like Arrow will saying like maybe he's not
- 3:01:22his first round ready as we think because of it because he's
- 3:01:26just been streaky, statistically and really bad in conference
- 3:01:28play. And I think a lot of that has to
- 3:01:29do first round Talent. He's not.
- 3:01:32What do you guys? What do you?
- 3:01:33You can stay guys and I can't wait to hear this crap.
- 3:01:36He is not a first round talent, I don't know what you guys are
- 3:01:40watching. He's a douchey tall guy that
- 3:01:42they're comparing to Ben Roethlisberger.
- 3:01:44He's not been Roethlisberger. You guys need to stop it.
- 3:01:47You Penn State fans need to stop it.
- 3:01:49He's nowhere close. And I don't want to hear about
- 3:01:52it because you're going to say the stop to development of the
- 3:01:57coaching staff knows the quarterback, and knows his And
- 3:02:00the way his game should be played with the roster that he
- 3:02:02has, he's not as good as you think he has.
- 3:02:05And he's proving it we get in week out that he's not as good
- 3:02:07as he's not. I don't want to hear about his
- 3:02:0978 yards. Run throw the damn ball.
- 3:02:11You want to make it to the NFL. You gotta be a dual threat.
- 3:02:14You're not a dual threat. That's it.
- 3:02:16That's all I want to say jaxson Dart showed a little bit more
- 3:02:19bumps in his game. When he needed to show it to
- 3:02:22make himself a first round. This kid is not a first round
- 3:02:25Allen and has nothing to do with development.
- 3:02:27The kid is not as good as you think he is.
- 3:02:29Yeah, I think you might be right.
- 3:02:32I'm looking online, they're saying he's dropped to a
- 3:02:35potential third round pick right now with his poor play.
- 3:02:38Look, you can't teach size and the guys got size.
- 3:02:42So that's like a first thing. But before we went, I just
- 3:02:46wanted to say this before we transition to the Penn State
- 3:02:48guys, giving their thoughts, my cupboards were before of how
- 3:02:51basic of a quarterback. Sean Clifford was that that Drew
- 3:02:54all are maybe not being ready at the time but still like upside
- 3:02:57was there like make the move when you and your best chance of
- 3:02:59winning a season in 23. I think my point is like, in
- 3:03:04college football, especially those big programs, when you're
- 3:03:06not an offensive coordinator Franklin.
- 3:03:08If I'm not mistaken, was a special teams guy, dating back,
- 3:03:11and he has all these really great coordinators, but then
- 3:03:16they get jobs and they move on, and they become head, coaches,
- 3:03:18and then it's a new offense. And he's really dependent on
- 3:03:23having good coordinators. You know, there for a number of
- 3:03:27years, to build a system and if they don't stay in their
- 3:03:30constantly changing, how can a guy like Aller develop if you're
- 3:03:34if that's happening. And that's just a function of
- 3:03:36the vision one football, and your head coach being more of an
- 3:03:39overseer, which I think he's really good at Then a scheme
- 3:03:44guy. I don't think he's really a
- 3:03:47scheme guy which is not even hurts.
- 3:03:49Jalen hurts. How many coaches did he have?
- 3:03:52Jalen hurts jump from one team to another and Jalen hurts
- 3:03:55almost won. He won a national championship
- 3:03:56as a backup. And then he goes over there and
- 3:03:59he does what he does over there. Oklahoma, the guy could play.
- 3:04:03All right. By the way, Jalen hurts was the
- 3:04:11second round draft pick so I don't want to hear it this way.
- 3:04:14You know, proving my point you're proving my point really
- 3:04:17hurts didn't play the first year Jalen hurts.
- 3:04:21They didn't think was ready, that's what I'm saying.
- 3:04:23Well that's what I'm saying. That his development was skewed
- 3:04:28because of those things that it slowed him down a year or so I'm
- 3:04:31not saying that all is bad but he's gonna drop in the draft.
- 3:04:35How do you Record it back. He was a starter quarterback.
- 3:04:45The Alabama Crimson Tide all season long, went to an actual
- 3:04:49Championship. He had a bad game.
- 3:04:50People have bad games, he went with Duo, so, in the second
- 3:04:53half, so I don't want to hear this, whatever happened, a
- 3:04:57different coaches, you know, that happens.
- 3:04:59I I'm telling you right now this guy from Penn State, there's six
- 3:05:04foot eight giant, to everybody thinks is gonna be Ben
- 3:05:07Roethlisberger. He's not anything.
- 3:05:08He's not going to be good in the NFL so that book that boy you
- 3:05:12on. He knows what's gonna happen.
- 3:05:15You know, I'm right, I'm right. You know, it's gonna happen.
- 3:05:19He's gonna end up being on the Jets that's what's gonna happen.
- 3:05:22Well, the Jets are drafting trust me.
- 3:05:27They're not drafting him. Definitely not 10 years after
- 3:05:30traffic. You know what you want on that
- 3:05:33you really wanted to hear from a couple of people and we're gonna
- 3:05:44start with my brother-in-law. Amanda, welcome to the show.
- 3:05:48Thank you for bringing me on, guys, how you doing today?
- 3:05:50It's been great. It's been a long day.
- 3:05:52Really had to have your take ever since I've known you the
- 3:05:55biggest Penn State fan. It was when I first started, you
- 3:05:58know, dating my wife, you know, it was like, oh, it's just get
- 3:06:01some Penn State presents for birthdays and stuff like that.
- 3:06:04It was super easy because I know that if you're a Penn State guy,
- 3:06:07you're really a Penn State guy and I've known you, I know you
- 3:06:10are That was a tough one this week, they're all tough, right?
- 3:06:15But what I want to say is I I wasn't on the fire for Franklin
- 3:06:20bandwagon up until this last six months or two year or so, and
- 3:06:27realistically, he's 115 against the top five and four and 20
- 3:06:32against the top 10 at Penn State, he sucks.
- 3:06:36You can't justify it at all in any way, shape, or form anymore.
- 3:06:41There's actually a closet in this contract that whatever
- 3:06:44contract he signs next, so if he unless he goes unemployed, That
- 3:06:4956 million dollar buyout gets reduced by his contract, right?
- 3:06:52So there's space for Penn State to make moves here and they
- 3:06:59should because he's not, he's not the one that's going to get
- 3:07:02us over the top. I I don't know that a lot is the
- 3:07:07answer at the end of the day. He doesn't make good decisions
- 3:07:11with the ball in big spots. He showed that last year when he
- 3:07:16threw the interception, you know, going into that that
- 3:07:19semi-final game or in that semi-final game.
- 3:07:20But, you know, Franklin's not the answer.
- 3:07:24And and it sucks because I, I go back to, you know, my second
- 3:07:28game was the thrashing 40 to 7 home game against Nebraska that
- 3:07:33we be, you know, the evolution crap out of Nebraska that came.
- 3:07:36Um, I I had been, you know, I was in the end zone or sitting
- 3:07:40in the ends on that, Mario Manningham, beat us in 2005
- 3:07:44before we went on to the Orange Bowl and I was at the Orange
- 3:07:47Bowl that year and I watched every single minute of every
- 3:07:51Penn State game since 2002 essentially, but it's
- 3:07:56heartbreaking, every single year to think that you have a chance
- 3:08:00and then get completely slaughtered in the way that that
- 3:08:04we did this past. Weekend was, you know?
- 3:08:08Organ, was bad enough this past weekend, just put me over the
- 3:08:11edge. I it's just like it's such a
- 3:08:14letdown and it's such a trap game when you have such a bad
- 3:08:19loss, you know, at home double overtime against you know
- 3:08:23whoever wins that game is the number two seed overall and
- 3:08:26probably there won't fall out of the top five, you know.
- 3:08:30Regardless going forward then they lose and they have to make
- 3:08:33the West Coast trip. Right.
- 3:08:35That's a big thing too and then they got to go face.
- 3:08:39An offensive coordinator. Who's never called a game
- 3:08:41before, so there's no Tendencies on him.
- 3:08:44So, that's not exactly easy if he's any good and it turns out
- 3:08:47the kid was pretty damn good as an offensive coordinator.
- 3:08:51You know, I think they figured it out at halftime and they came
- 3:08:53back. But it's just a lot of things
- 3:08:56that go wrong that you just can't let happen.
- 3:08:59If you're the caretaker of a really good program, I remember
- 3:09:02as a Giants fan, when Tom Coughlin started slipping Tom
- 3:09:07Clawson, he mastered? No, no listen, Sam call from was
- 3:09:11the master of clock management. The master of clock management.
- 3:09:16Never had problems with clock management and they didn't have
- 3:09:18penalties for delay. A game, the Giants were the team
- 3:09:21that never had that issue. And then his last year.
- 3:09:24It happened all the time. That's because you boyfriend
- 3:09:27Odell Beckham. Are you kidding me?
- 3:09:29Are you talking about surgery? He was he was there.
- 3:09:37He was there on the beginning of the season and that's what yeah,
- 3:09:42when he pissed on the freaking logo and that was Tom Coughlin,
- 3:09:45yes. Okay.
- 3:09:45You remember that? I tell me what.
- 3:09:53Was the reason why Tom Cotton lost his job.
- 3:09:55Are you going to sit here and tell me, how about the coaching
- 3:09:58staff at the end of the season? When Ben McAdoo University?
- 3:10:01I'm not wrong, I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong, I'm not wrong.
- 3:10:12I'm not wrong. You're wrong.
- 3:10:14You what happened to Jackson died yesterday?
- 3:10:19What happened? What happened?
- 3:10:21Yeah, that's right. I told you was gonna happen.
- 3:10:23Told you was gonna happen, told you what was gonna happen, you
- 3:10:26don't listen just better. You don't care my team socks.
- 3:10:32They stink, I could care less. I already said that.
- 3:10:35Bring me down with me because I can't.
- 3:10:38Oh my God. Jackson.
- 3:10:42Was gonna fall in the same hole as every giant quarterback since
- 3:10:50Eli Manning. And that's all I'm gonna say
- 3:10:52about that. And it's here and bring up the
- 3:10:54Giants and you're gonna bring up the Giants and comparison to Tom
- 3:10:58Coughlin who the Giants screwed stop.
- 3:11:00Well, if you had any patience, he doesn't know what you're
- 3:11:07saying, cuz you cut me off. So it rudely and
- 3:11:09inappropriately. How am I supposed to even?
- 3:11:12Get a thought out? Comparing, people not having
- 3:11:15clocks it. It's not because you can't
- 3:11:18listen, you don't know how to listen, I'm listening.
- 3:11:21I think it's a terrible fight me off.
- 3:11:24You don't even hear the whole thing.
- 3:11:25I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, because Tom Coughlin was a
- 3:11:30great coach of certain things until he wasn't and everybody is
- 3:11:34great until they're not. It happens to everyone.
- 3:11:37Whether you're a player or a coach Belichick, certainly lost
- 3:11:40his fastball the last couple years in New England.
- 3:11:42Don't tell me. He didn't Tom Clawson, lost his
- 3:11:46fastball to that last year, too. It may be, you could say, part
- 3:11:49of it was due to Odell, but I'll tell you right now, they never
- 3:11:52had penalties the way they did, because of clock management or
- 3:11:56making mistakes at the end to have, like, they did until that
- 3:12:00last year, because Kaufman was a master of it.
- 3:12:01James Franklin, on the other hand, the things that he's good
- 3:12:06at used to be keeping a program together in situations like
- 3:12:09this. And now you see the cracks
- 3:12:11starting to go in the foundation and I could see why Penn State
- 3:12:15guys may want to move on. So now I gotta ask another rabid
- 3:12:19Penn State guy, our old intern Jake Who I know has lots of
- 3:12:23opinions on this? Yeah, so I should say, first of
- 3:12:27all, it's good to see you Errol fish, speedy and Java.
- 3:12:30Good to see you guys again. Yeah, I have a lot of Venom
- 3:12:33stored up. So this is a pretty rough three
- 3:12:36days for me. UFC 320 was great.
- 3:12:39As kind of the only saving grace, the Phillies were shit
- 3:12:42tonight and Saturday the Eagles unfortunately lost and then
- 3:12:46yeah, Penn State. I mean, Look you guys are
- 3:12:50already caught a lot of. I'll try to go quick in this but
- 3:12:52like look Franklin's got to go, that's just the truth.
- 3:12:55Like I understand I always saying he's a good coach he is
- 3:12:58but you cannot be for in 20 well the 421 against top 10 opponents
- 3:13:03and then one in 14 minutes Michigan and Ohio State in the
- 3:13:06top 10. Like he's only beating Michigan
- 3:13:08or Ohio State one time. And the only way it was on a
- 3:13:12fluke bulshit like blocked kick, run back kick six.
- 3:13:15When Penn State already had two losses and we were out of the
- 3:13:19playoff picture. We didn't have a chance, it was
- 3:13:20just an Fu to Ohio State. That's all it was, and it was a
- 3:13:23great win, it was a good, feel good win, but it didn't matter
- 3:13:26in the end. And look on Drew Aller.
- 3:13:29I love your arm, a big Gerard guy, but you are right arrow, he
- 3:13:33is definitely played himself out of the first round and like they
- 3:13:37were calling him and hyping him up when we first got him.
- 3:13:39They were comparing him to Josh Allen.
- 3:13:41This big six foot five quarterback and I thought, hey,
- 3:13:43you know, after guys a Christian Hackenberg, who couldn't really
- 3:13:47put it all together, wasn't quite there.
- 3:13:48Trace McSorley, who was a pretty good player, but didn't have the
- 3:13:51intangibles. That pro NFL teams are looking
- 3:13:53for. And like Speedy said, Sean
- 3:13:55Clifford, the most definition of mid quarterback ever.
- 3:13:58I thought, hey, this is going to be our guy.
- 3:14:01This is the guy, and Like you said, fish, like changing
- 3:14:05coordinators and I was really psyched when we got Andy cuddle,
- 3:14:08Nikki. I thought he was gonna take her
- 3:14:10out and develop him and make him.
- 3:14:12And we were going to see it this year in that offensive
- 3:14:15explosion. You got Trevor Pena from
- 3:14:16Syracuse Devonte roster transfer wide receiver. it's just hasn't
- 3:14:21been there and like I hate to say it because I'm big allergy,
- 3:14:25but They should have kept Oprah Bola.
- 3:14:27He's been great at missou and her it's just it's not there
- 3:14:31like some for some reason something's not clicking with
- 3:14:34him. Like he's still will get
- 3:14:35drafted, but It just doesn't look right.
- 3:14:38And it's a shame to say that as a fan of his, it just doesn't
- 3:14:41look right and then, as well as Arrow, you're saying, they'll
- 3:14:45still make the date. We're done seasons over like,
- 3:14:47let's just say, okay, maybe they'll beat Northwestern, I
- 3:14:50don't even have confidence in that this week, that will beat
- 3:14:53Northwestern if you lose to, oh, and for UCLA.
- 3:14:55But I don't think we're gonna be Iowa, they're definitely not
- 3:14:58going to be in Ohio State. They probably not going to be
- 3:15:00Indiana. So that's three losses, right
- 3:15:01there. You can't lose more than one
- 3:15:03game and then I there's already two games for sure they're going
- 3:15:06to lose. Like they are being Ohio State
- 3:15:08and Iowa and like look with Franklin look.
- 3:15:11I get, he's a good coach. I just think that.
- 3:15:15Look after that last week like look I think you were right.
- 3:15:18The Oregon game was not his fault.
- 3:15:20I think it was more an hour and total Nikki as a whole.
- 3:15:23They just couldn't get things going until really late and then
- 3:15:25he can't Drew all our camp. Throw that interception or
- 3:15:28double overtime. That was rough, but you was the
- 3:15:30head coach. Then look, it was a rough lost
- 3:15:32your emotional, it's sad. You have to then, get the troops
- 3:15:35ready to play a game like this against UCLA.
- 3:15:37You cannot keep reeling and then suffer a horrible loss like
- 3:15:42this. That is poor leadership.
- 3:15:43Poor execution, just to get embarrassed like that against
- 3:15:47UCLA literally and the only player I can name on there to
- 3:15:51Nico yamiyo who left Tennessee. And people have been saying,
- 3:15:54have been looking like a bad look for him.
- 3:15:55He looked like his Tennessee form again, against Penn State,
- 3:15:58supposed Elite defense with Jim nols, who you stole from Ohio,
- 3:16:01State to play against Ohio State.
- 3:16:04And now, you're not even at that game yet and this season's
- 3:16:07pretty much already over. So like, look, Franklin.
- 3:16:10I respect him. He's a, he's a good.
- 3:16:12He's a good program Builder. He's a fantastic recruiter, but
- 3:16:15he's just such a mediocre coach especially in game decisions.
- 3:16:19He cannot get it done as a Penn State fan.
- 3:16:23If you're a supporter Franklin, I don't really know what more
- 3:16:25you need to see other than the fact that show you that he's not
- 3:16:27the guy. And like, I understand, you have
- 3:16:29to have a guy like you have to say, who are you gonna have?
- 3:16:32Replace him. But, like, The experiments done,
- 3:16:35it's over, he needs to be gone. I'm just so sick of James
- 3:16:38Franklin. I respect him as a guy.
- 3:16:40I think his players love him. I just don't think they respect
- 3:16:44him anymore. Think his messages are bland.
- 3:16:46And the thing that I've always felt about him in my heart of
- 3:16:50hearts is that James Franklin is Mike Tomlin without rings.
- 3:16:55He's Mike Tomlin post 2515 that is all he is.
- 3:16:58If you watch the Pittsburgh Steelers every single year post
- 3:17:012015, they've had solid teams around 9 and 8, maybe 10 and 7,
- 3:17:07whatever, make the playoffs, losing the first round one and
- 3:17:10done and that's what James Franklin is and sure they made
- 3:17:13the dance last year. They beat boys, you state they
- 3:17:15beat SMU but you come up against a big team in Notre Dame and
- 3:17:19you'll lose the game. And even if they won that game,
- 3:17:22we work going to be Ohio State. That's just the truth.
- 3:17:25So, I've done with the season, I'm not patcraft.
- 3:17:28If I was up to me, he wouldn't even have been a lot home on the
- 3:17:30plane ride home. He would have been fired all the
- 3:17:32spot, but look fine. Let him finish the season, but
- 3:17:35he needs to be done. I'll pay for his bio.
- 3:17:38I'm an alumni. Now, I'll get like a million get
- 3:17:43ladies somewhere. I need to go.
- 3:17:45He got 56 million in the couch. Cushions Armando.
- 3:17:49You, you mentioned that he mentioned that very similar to
- 3:17:52Pittsburgh. Also your favorite professional
- 3:17:55team, how do you feel about that comparison?
- 3:17:58Hey resonates so fast so much so much your residence so much
- 3:18:01because I you said it and it hurt and it's true.
- 3:18:05They always have a decent defense that gets us to the
- 3:18:08first round of the playoffs and then we lose.
- 3:18:10It's not been easy, you know, being a Penn State or Steelers
- 3:18:13or Dolphins fan for that matter, you know, for the last couple
- 3:18:17years, yeah, Armada. I'm sorry, I should have said
- 3:18:20they are this. They are the Post 25 Steelers on
- 3:18:23paper, but they, in terms of hype, they are the Dallas
- 3:18:25Cowboys. That is what Penn State is.
- 3:18:27You know what, I drank the freaking coolie this year
- 3:18:33because I believe that you know oh Ohio State just won.
- 3:18:36They lost a bunch of their players to the draft Dillon
- 3:18:39Gabriel and Oregon. They're weakened Michigan's not
- 3:18:40quite there yet. We're ranked number two was the
- 3:18:42most fake bullshiter 2 ranking ever.
- 3:18:46NFL offensive line. Yeah, good running backs new
- 3:18:51transfer receivers still a decent defense.
- 3:18:53I hear you man. It's it's been.
- 3:18:55It's been awful. Bring back Bill O'Brien honestly
- 3:18:59yeah. Yeah.
- 3:19:00And you I mean I I'm so happy that Tyler.
- 3:19:04Warren got drafted. I still don't understand what
- 3:19:05the Bears were thinking. I wanted him to go to Chicago
- 3:19:07because I have some family in Chicago who are Bears fans.
- 3:19:10I don't know what they were thinking with Colston Loveland
- 3:19:12because you see so how much Tyler Warren meant to Penn
- 3:19:15State? If you watched this last year,
- 3:19:16how great he is with Indianapolis like 100% you know
- 3:19:20boys I appreciate you guys coming on before.
- 3:19:23Let you go Aero. How disgusted are you at?
- 3:19:26These takes. Yeah.
- 3:19:28Listen, I have a lot of respect for both of you.
- 3:19:30Obviously, this the first time I met your brother-in-law.
- 3:19:33It's very nice to meet you, Jay. You know, I love you, man.
- 3:19:38And I like I had to cut you off because I disagree with you on
- 3:19:42the top Coughlin take. As far as the Mike Tomlin take.
- 3:19:45And I understand what you guys are saying my Tomlin won a
- 3:19:49freaking Super Bowl. Okay.
- 3:19:51Could you guys stopped? He won a Superbowl and he was
- 3:19:55consistent winning. His coach in NFL history in the
- 3:19:59last 12 Seasons, go look at it. Really matter.
- 3:20:06The fact is he want to Super Bowl the guy's been consistent,
- 3:20:10he hasn't won. Will guess what?
- 3:20:12Let's go back. And look at his quarterbacks,
- 3:20:14okay, he's not the GM. He's not picking the
- 3:20:16quarterbacks. They picked the quarterbacks
- 3:20:19Aaron Rodgers to Russell, Wilson to Justin Fields, who they
- 3:20:23completely thrown away to sit here and say that Mike Tomlin is
- 3:20:26Franklin, that's ridiculous. And by the way, you want to buy
- 3:20:29at his contract, how many people were trying to buy a
- 3:20:32billionaires contract? Last year, the alumni tried to
- 3:20:35buy out his contract and he's still has a job.
- 3:20:38Please guys, I know you Penn State fans are going to see
- 3:20:41here. You guys think?
- 3:20:42I don't know what I'm talking. About, that's fine.
- 3:20:44I do watch college maybe not as much as you guys but I know what
- 3:20:48I'm talking about. And for you guys to come out and
- 3:20:51say that this guy is in a winner, he's my Tomlin.
- 3:20:53He's this, he's that you don't throw away something good, no
- 3:20:58matter what the guy knows how to recruit and eventually he will
- 3:21:01get it right now. Adler wasn't the guy and I never
- 3:21:05thought he was and for you guys to think now you go with Mizzou
- 3:21:09you talking about the Mizzou quarterback.
- 3:21:10They should have kept them. I agree with you Jake.
- 3:21:12That's probably the only thing I agree with you on any.
- 3:21:14It takes that you made. Okay?
- 3:21:16The fact here is Penn State right now was ranked number two
- 3:21:20in the country to say it was fall.
- 3:21:22It's this not going into the seasoning at the most talented
- 3:21:25offensive line in the country and they had two of the most
- 3:21:28dedicated decorated running backs coming out of the college
- 3:21:33College. Offseason, everybody thought
- 3:21:35they were going to be a run and just dominated them.
- 3:21:38Offensive line. It just hasn't happened.
- 3:21:40That way. Maybe it's the coaching staff.
- 3:21:42Maybe it's this. Maybe start.
- 3:21:44You want to play something, you want to play the coach playing
- 3:21:45the coach, but you can't tell me that.
- 3:21:47This Adler guy is anything special from a big tall, doofy
- 3:21:51guy that tries to run out of the pocket and throw on the run
- 3:21:54which by the way, he's absolutely horrible.
- 3:21:56But doing so to me to comparison to any of these guys and say
- 3:22:00what you're saying. He's not like Tomlin And I think
- 3:22:03Penn State is a lot better than you guys.
- 3:22:05Think he is that think they are, they have a good recruiting
- 3:22:08class coming in next year. You can check your head.
- 3:22:10All you want they do, they're ranked in the top five and
- 3:22:13recruiting classes. Next year, there was not going
- 3:22:15to change Franklin's choking like that's okay.
- 3:22:17He brings in, he won't win the games.
- 3:22:20Let me ask you a question. We've had Talent on Talent on
- 3:22:24Talent. They don't win when it matters.
- 3:22:26Like I don't know how much more proof, or how much more time you
- 3:22:29needs. Like he's got plenty of
- 3:22:30opportunities. He went, he brought in, at first
- 3:22:35of all, they made a mistake with the quarterback.
- 3:22:36I didn't think he was the right fit to weigh that they want to
- 3:22:39run their offense. There were running team, they
- 3:22:42should have kept the Mizzou quarterback.
- 3:22:44I watched him last year, he was good, they went they went wrong
- 3:22:47on that if they kept him they're they're probably going for a
- 3:22:50national championship this year. They screwed up with the
- 3:22:53quarterback. They screwed up with the
- 3:22:55quarterback. You want to blame coach, blame
- 3:22:58the coach. It's not always the coach, the
- 3:23:00players around them and unfortunately the quarterback is
- 3:23:03so overrated. You want to know, you don't want
- 3:23:05to know my opinion as their quarterback is not really any
- 3:23:08good, he's not in NFL quarterback and my eyes and
- 3:23:12everybody thought he was a first round Talent.
- 3:23:13By the way, Josh Silverman, if you listening to us right now
- 3:23:16this is the same guy that you thought was a first round
- 3:23:19Talent. He is horrible, he's not good,
- 3:23:23he's an oversized, but I think he will get drafted him.
- 3:23:27And he's a Cleveland kids, so, he'll probably just get drafted
- 3:23:29to the Browns and be another part.
- 3:23:32Lost it all, get to replace the door.
- 3:23:36Yeah, probably another question doors up next morning.
- 3:23:43Just Christian, Hackenberg Locker old Locker ready for my
- 3:23:47prediction by the way, boys. You want to hear this?
- 3:23:49I'm sorry to cut you off shoulder Sanders.
- 3:23:51Next year in the offseason will be traded to Jackson fell book.
- 3:23:55It book it. I said that he's gonna be traded
- 3:23:58to Jacksonville. Take that.
- 3:23:59Remember, I said the grandma and unbelievable play tonight.
- 3:24:04I haven't seen it yet, but guys, I'm just telling you, that's
- 3:24:07what I saw guys. Thank you so much for joining us
- 3:24:10tonight with this Penn State little Seance that we're having.
- 3:24:14We're gonna go take a quick break with a sportsman and we
- 3:24:18got a few more segments left. So before that, we got Tommy
- 3:24:22scoops, All right, all right. All right.
- 3:24:32Ladies and gentlemen, I am back. Once again for another Sports
- 3:24:36minute on jabu in the mouth of over here, trying to get the
- 3:24:39music going louder. But put your camera on Tommy.
- 3:24:42Oh, I thought I had his own already, here we are.
- 3:24:44Ah, live in an action. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 3:24:47here we are for another Sports minute on the fish cast with
- 3:24:50arrow gone. Once again, ladies and
- 3:24:52gentlemen, I am here to announce some more NFL news as the
- 3:24:55Dolphins owner. Steve Ross is reportedly
- 3:24:57frustrated with the team now, after the team came from behind
- 3:25:01and lost 27 and 24 to the Panthers.
- 3:25:05Dolphins, coach Mike. McDaniels actually said that he
- 3:25:08met with Ross afterwards, like he always does.
- 3:25:10And both men were actually voice their frustrations with one
- 3:25:14another and with the direction of the team.
- 3:25:16Of course he actually said that he was really frustrated.
- 3:25:19Just like I am McDaniel said on Monday, which was today.
- 3:25:22And we talked about the challenge ahead to get ready for
- 3:25:25the Chargers, which is the teams next opponent, and that was
- 3:25:28really the extent of it as McDaniels explained, McDaniels,
- 3:25:32who actually has one of the hottest seats in the NFL as a
- 3:25:34head coach going into the season.
- 3:25:36And currently right now in the NFL McDaniel, said that the
- 3:25:40Dolphins who have fallen someone in four may see a coaching
- 3:25:44change sometime sooner than later in this season and going
- 3:25:49over into some more. I'm sorry going over into some
- 3:25:53UFC. It was just announced today that
- 3:25:55the UFC will actually be going through with their White House
- 3:25:59UFC event over in June. Now, according to president
- 3:26:02Donald Trump, the UFC's much anticipated and highly
- 3:26:06speculated for the last couple of weeks live event will be held
- 3:26:09at the White House in June for team.
- 3:26:12Now, after months, like I said, a speculation of holding UFC
- 3:26:15event, the White House. Donald Trump announces that June
- 3:26:1814th will bring the UFC to the White House Event and UFC CEO.
- 3:26:23Dana White who has previously revealed that the event will
- 3:26:26include official weigh-ins at the Lincoln Memorial and the UFC
- 3:26:30will be rumored to hold Conor McGregor versus Michael
- 3:26:33Chandler. A fight that has actually been
- 3:26:35rumors to be happening for the last couple years, but we'll
- 3:26:38finally be happening on the lawn of the White House where Dana
- 3:26:42White and Donald Trump also explained that the NF.
- 3:26:45I'm sorry, the UFC fighters will be making their entrances from
- 3:26:49the you the Oval Office of the white Lighthouse to wrap things
- 3:26:54up over in the NBA LeBron, James is set to make his second
- 3:26:58decision tomorrow at 12 p.m. eastern time.
- 3:27:01Now, for those of you guys who don't know, understand what I'm
- 3:27:03saying, the decision of LeBron, which was documented back in
- 3:27:062010, 2011 season, and an ESPN special, which was an
- 3:27:11announcement series, or sort of announcement series, sort of an
- 3:27:14announcement documentary, which is all Lebron James announced
- 3:27:17which team he was gonna be going to in the off-season and he
- 3:27:20ended up choosing Chris Bosh and D.
- 3:27:22Wade, LED Miami to go to Miami and take his talent to South
- 3:27:26Beach now, fast forward. 15 years later.
- 3:27:29LeBron has announced a teaser labeled the second decision
- 3:27:33hinting at James announcing a possible move to another team.
- 3:27:37With many people speculating that it will probably be him
- 3:27:40returning back to the Cavaliers or finishing his career off with
- 3:27:43Anthony Davis, and Kyrie Irving over in the Dallas Mavericks, or
- 3:27:48many people will be speculating, or have speculated.
- 3:27:51This is the The final hurray for LeBron James and the lja as our
- 3:27:56host. Of course, Aaron Marx would like
- 3:27:58to call it but many are speculating that with LeBron
- 3:28:01James entering his 2013 season. This could be his announcement
- 3:28:04of his retirement tour with the last bit of LeBron.
- 3:28:08James incoming, ladies and gentlemen, that's all the time I
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- 3:28:54Well, welcome back to Jabba and the mouse.
- 3:28:59We got a few more segments left tonight.
- 3:29:01We've had some really great segments, some good guests
- 3:29:04coming on. We got a couple of Floridians on
- 3:29:07the screen right now, a part-time, Floridian and a
- 3:29:10full-time one. At least a vacationing New
- 3:29:12Yorker in Florida with Errol marks joining us for the last
- 3:29:15hour of the show, and we've got Nick goody in this in the
- 3:29:19studio. How we doing goody?
- 3:29:20What up? We're good.
- 3:29:24It's pretty crazy baseball going on.
- 3:29:25We saw come down to the wire with the Dodgers in the Phillies
- 3:29:29tonight. They got a two-nothing lead.
- 3:29:31Looks like rokey Sasaki. Just firing it up there.
- 3:29:34But before we get into some baseball and we're gonna get to
- 3:29:37your segment a little bit goody We gotta here about some Java
- 3:29:42rules. All right, job, here we go.
- 3:29:52What rules tonight? Well, we're gonna go on.
- 3:29:59This is going to be what rules not to break on job Rules
- 3:30:03tonight. Jared, Shaw's, Indonesian
- 3:30:07basketball player. That is facing life in prison
- 3:30:11impossible execution, For bringing dollars worth of
- 3:30:15gummies in Indonesian in Indonesia and he said he uses
- 3:30:20them as medicine. And the Indonesian basketball
- 3:30:24league says that there is no place in this league for drug
- 3:30:28users. And so he is up for possible
- 3:30:31execution. They have executed that last
- 3:30:34time was in 2016, but could be life in prison.
- 3:30:39For $400 worth of gummies if we haven't learned.
- 3:30:42Now, stop bringing drugs into other countries.
- 3:30:46Follow the rules. Don't break the rules because
- 3:30:48that's job. Rule's.
- 3:30:51That kind of reminds me that Brittney Griner story years to
- 3:30:55go. That's what that's it.
- 3:30:56I was like what do we do? Like what are we doing here?
- 3:30:59Like come on. Yeah Lee.
- 3:31:02That's really not that much. But it's not that's a good they
- 3:31:07certain like there was a tip they searched it and like I was
- 3:31:11like this is a Charlie, it might execute him as a kill him.
- 3:31:15Yeah. So they southeast Asia is like
- 3:31:18that with drug offenses. I remember when I was a kid,
- 3:31:21there was a story and I don't know if you remember this job
- 3:31:23that in Singapore in the region. There was a kid who went like an
- 3:31:28American that went there to like and he was like, spray painting
- 3:31:30a car. I'm pretty sure they gave him 10
- 3:31:32lashes like publicly. I mean, that's the way I know.
- 3:31:36Exactly. And then there was story.
- 3:31:37Like if you stole something, they're cut off your hand.
- 3:31:40You know, like like this is like I for an eye, like coat of
- 3:31:43Hammurabi type stuff going on over there.
- 3:31:46Yeah, it's not. I saw that.
- 3:31:47I was like, what are like what are we doing?
- 3:31:49People. In North Korea.
- 3:31:52I don't know if anybody knows the story a couple of years ago,
- 3:31:55there was a kid that went to North Korea to check out the
- 3:31:59city and and all that she was staying in a hotel.
- 3:32:01And he went up to a hotel area that he wasn't supposed to and
- 3:32:05he stole something from that area.
- 3:32:07They found out. They sentenced him.
- 3:32:09They made him apologize to his family and all the United States
- 3:32:12and all this other stuff. He was pretty much thrown away.
- 3:32:16The key. They beat, they beat him, they
- 3:32:18did all this stuff. Damn, they didn't feed him, they
- 3:32:21finally got him back to America. She was practically in a
- 3:32:24wheelchair. Getting a feeding tube down his
- 3:32:26throat and what happens to him? He dies a couple months later
- 3:32:29and nobody, nobody knows the story behind what happened to
- 3:32:34him and what how they treated him when he was in jail?
- 3:32:36I remember that. I, they definitely abused him
- 3:32:42for sure 100%. He was like in a coma when they
- 3:32:46sent him back or something. Yep, yep.
- 3:32:50All right guys, we have just a couple more things to do.
- 3:32:53One of them is the big reveal. For save your tears mom.
- 3:32:58What's one thing that you can't talk to me about my sexual
- 3:33:03fantasies? He's not ideal but if it's what
- 3:33:08music is not ideal but if it's just not ideal, but if it is
- 3:33:11what mean you All right, guys, we're gonna do
- 3:33:27this quickly. This is the results, the
- 3:33:31compliment chorus again, the winner of Savior tears, every
- 3:33:35week gets long-winded. Genuine compliments that have to
- 3:33:38be at least 51% genuine from all of the losers.
- 3:33:43Well, for week, five, we have quite an interesting result and
- 3:33:48we're gonna hat. So if you take a look at it, we
- 3:33:50had some A whoever took Bucky Irving.
- 3:33:55He didn't play. He even got an injury
- 3:33:58designation after, we did lucky, I think, as far as tight ends,
- 3:34:02nobody took AJ Barner, who was for two dollars.
- 3:34:04Who was the leading scorer at the tight end position in all of
- 3:34:07football this week? But, you know, a lot of guys did
- 3:34:10well, Mecca. Bucha was a big name this week.
- 3:34:12Let's see who ends up winning. Save your tears for week, five,
- 3:34:17and, oh my God, it's the South African legend himself.
- 3:34:22Second time in three weeks, nymphomania with another win 88
- 3:34:30points, second place Speedy, peedy Arrow marks, keeping up
- 3:34:34his FedEx Cup, standings in third with 81.98.
- 3:34:39If you just Kenneth Walker for a dollar, it would have been
- 3:34:50enough. So where I Other big performers.
- 3:34:54Back had the big game for quarterbacks Baker was right
- 3:34:58behind him Mecca was the leading wide receiver at tight, end
- 3:35:02Ferguson for Dallas at a big game as well.
- 3:35:06So Nathan's, not here, we're going to do these like we're
- 3:35:10riding to a pen pal. We're just going to give them a
- 3:35:12little love real quick. And we'll start off with our
- 3:35:15last place finisher for this week, which is Tommy.
- 3:35:18Then I'll go then Jarrett and then job.
- 3:35:20And then our medalists, Started off.
- 3:35:23Tommy Scoops. All right.
- 3:35:24Mister maybe short, Mr. In short.
- 3:35:27He's not here. Yeah, Mr. Nathan.
- 3:35:28If you're watching this, just know man, you didn't man.
- 3:35:31You did it back-to-back weeks, you know like you said it's hard
- 3:35:34to get one week. You get it back to back week so
- 3:35:36I hope you're having a very safe trip over there in Africa.
- 3:35:38Hope making sure you know, you're very Victorious over
- 3:35:42there. So, yeah man have a safe trip
- 3:35:43and you were the champ now back to back weeks.
- 3:35:45All right. I'm gonna give you mine nithin
- 3:35:50in in a language that that can be understood where you are
- 3:35:54currently in the globe. Here's my answer.
- 3:36:03And yeah. So vinya know, that's just the
- 3:36:09beginning of the Lion King. Lion, King.
- 3:36:11He holds Simba up he may as well.
- 3:36:13Rafiki have been holding up baby.
- 3:36:15Missing his baby came. The king of the jungle, the king
- 3:36:21of the pride lands. The king of Savior tears,
- 3:36:26actually really good. So that ebonics so everything
- 3:36:31that the light touches belongs and Ethan, Literally everything
- 3:36:35unless star shows up. Oh yes, Scott that'll be a big
- 3:36:38problem. This scar shows up All right.
- 3:36:41Who's up next? Jerry, I heard somebody doing
- 3:36:44something, congratulations. I hope you're enjoying South
- 3:36:48Africa. Congratulations.
- 3:36:49The big win. It always hurts when the person
- 3:36:51who wins have three of the five. Same picks as you also.
- 3:36:54Shout out for showing up in the Stream for all three whole
- 3:36:57seconds, just enough to make me look crazy for saying, what's up
- 3:36:59nitin in the chat. That is true.
- 3:37:03I did see him pop in for a second.
- 3:37:04I didn't see it's like, it's like four in the morning.
- 3:37:07Over there for Nathan, too. All right, who we got?
- 3:37:09Next, we got missed a job of Chamberlain.
- 3:37:14Yeah, Nathan. Hope you're having fun.
- 3:37:15I'm glad you could stop in to see us for 14 seconds.
- 3:37:19As you probably will wake up to pee in the middle of the night.
- 3:37:21Hopefully, you didn't shake it too many times, or you got a
- 3:37:25crazy bug up in your pee hole. Hope you're staying Safe, Haven
- 3:37:31fun, and come back in one piece. We miss you, buddy.
- 3:37:35All right, let's go on to our bronze metal.
- 3:37:38Finisher Errol marks. Well, next thing, you know what
- 3:37:42I feel about me? Oh, I think you're Sensational.
- 3:37:44Everything you do is is great, you can be a pain in the ass
- 3:37:48sometimes, but I love you. I hope you're not flying
- 3:37:51helicopters too often because it's dangerous.
- 3:37:53You're putting yourself at risk. I don't find it to be very safe
- 3:37:57when you're up on that helicopter.
- 3:37:58But besides that. Congratulations for beating us
- 3:38:02once again. And by the way, after that, I'm
- 3:38:05gonna go. Good luck to goody and goodies
- 3:38:07bag of balls. Java I'm going to watch monster
- 3:38:10on Netflix. I'm up to the third episode.
- 3:38:13I'm actually enjoying it. It's so weird.
- 3:38:17It's crazy, it's freaky, I'm enjoying it.
- 3:38:20I mean, it's that's that's with your boy.
- 3:38:24The Leatherface right? Leatherface baby?
- 3:38:27Yeah, drop yesterday, I believe. Right.
- 3:38:29Oh, you didn't want to talk about NFL rigging the game?
- 3:38:33I'm not gonna talk about that until I get back on Thursday,
- 3:38:36don't you worry I got that all all set up because I've been
- 3:38:39saying that for the last 10 years and now everybody's saying
- 3:38:43it. I don't get any credit for any
- 3:38:45of my take by the way, nobody gives me credits Speedy.
- 3:38:48How long I've been, how long have I been saying that?
- 3:38:50How long, how long I know you. As long as I know you as well?
- 3:38:55That is a true statement has been saying, of course, Ronnie
- 3:38:59Dangerfield. I get no respect.
- 3:39:00As you don't have the Google eyes, but love you guys.
- 3:39:09I'll see you guys want to get back.
- 3:39:10I'll see you all Wednesday. All right, I believe it's
- 3:39:17Speedy. Yes.
- 3:39:18So I also took Bucky Irving, which the backfired I I was
- 3:39:22thinking either I could win because we had a lot of similar
- 3:39:25pics. We both had doc, we both had one
- 3:39:26Cowboys, but we both Irving, which backfire but for you,
- 3:39:29Nathan. I hope you have a great trip
- 3:39:31over there in South Africa. You Maine Supreme as the leader
- 3:39:36of the Jungle. And now all those animals will
- 3:39:38be wearing your blue, blazers and sipping gin and tonics to
- 3:39:43celebrate your back-to-back. Probably the first time in
- 3:39:46savior, cheers champ history, back to action.
- 3:39:49So are they wearing his blue blazer?
- 3:39:51And he's like holding them on a leash as animals over there as
- 3:39:56well. The leash is a theory that
- 3:39:58distributed determined because the they are quite big predatory
- 3:40:02creatures out there with the African Wilderness but since he
- 3:40:06is now the king, his leash is now been upgraded.
- 3:40:10So I hear vocabulary is amazing. Those big predatorial creatures
- 3:40:18in the African Wilderness for us please.
- 3:40:20Now, gotten a super level of upgrade and now it can do that.
- 3:40:26I will definitely get AI right on trying to make that picture
- 3:40:30that you just described show on Thursday.
- 3:40:33I will have to look back editorial creatures in the
- 3:40:36African wilderness. Yeah, that that's one way to put
- 3:40:40it. We've got a lot of.
- 3:40:42We got one segment left fellas. And that's one of our favorites.
- 3:40:46He's here. He's ready.
- 3:40:48It's time for goodies bag of balls.
- 3:40:51My mom is gonna work. Our car battery on my testicles.
- 3:40:53Trying to put tiger balm on this jungles nuts.
- 3:40:56Goodies bag of balls. That's how you become great,
- 3:40:59man, and your balls out there. Goodness, all right.
- 3:41:04All right, goodie, welcome back. Good to see you.
- 3:41:08My friends. Okay, I just watching the game
- 3:41:11right now. George, he's got called strike
- 3:41:14two on a ball, like three inches off the plate and gets an
- 3:41:17infield, single Baseball has the way, right?
- 3:41:19So gonna be out of this next year.
- 3:41:23They've been bad tonight, umpires.
- 3:41:26Yeah, there's gonna be some challenges.
- 3:41:28But I'm not here to talk challenges.
- 3:41:30I'm here to talk about marks out.
- 3:41:31Mark Sanchez. Your boy getting stacked.
- 3:41:34Hear about this. Yeah, I was gonna have you been?
- 3:41:39Yeah, it's been crazy about the baseball field.
- 3:41:42So I just heard about it, former NFL quarterback and current Fox
- 3:41:48analyst. Mark Sanchez was involved in a
- 3:41:49violent altercation in Indianapolis in the early
- 3:41:52morning, hours of a Saturday, this fee reportedly began over
- 3:41:56parking issue relating to a truck driver, who was 69 years
- 3:41:59old working at a hotel. Loading dock Sanchez.
- 3:42:02Allegedly confronted the man attempted to enter or interfere
- 3:42:06with his vehicle and a physical Confrontation ensued the driver
- 3:42:12claimed self-defense. Used.
- 3:42:13Pepper spray and subsequently. Stab Sanchez.
- 3:42:16Say, Sanchez suffered. Multiple stab wounds to his
- 3:42:20upper torso and was hospitalized.
- 3:42:23I don't know if you saw the video of Mark Sanchez walking
- 3:42:26but what a monster and I don't know if you saw the picture of
- 3:42:31the guy that he absolutely demolished.
- 3:42:33Yeah. But damn.
- 3:42:37I don't even know where to begin.
- 3:42:40With this story aside from the fact like dude got stabbed
- 3:42:43looked like a couple times in the in the abdomen area and
- 3:42:46still was freaking hammered enough to walk to wherever he
- 3:42:50needed to go. Pretty impressive.
- 3:42:54I mean, I can't really comment on what happened that night
- 3:42:58specifically to lead to that situation.
- 3:43:02The after effects were pretty obvious that a former
- 3:43:07professional athlete beat up an old man and the old man, dude,
- 3:43:13he got pepper sprayed back with, whatever he had, which included,
- 3:43:17pepper spray, and I guess a pocket knife or a switch, you
- 3:43:21know, some kind of switchblade that he had.
- 3:43:23Protecting his truck or something.
- 3:43:25And Sanchez was so belligerently drunk that he either.
- 3:43:29You know, it was something like that he was backing into a
- 3:43:32loading dock in Sanchez didn't want him at that.
- 3:43:35Loading dock for some reason I which I don't know.
- 3:43:39Why was he doing at the loading? I don't know.
- 3:43:41You know, maybe he was waiting for a limo with a couple of, you
- 3:43:45know, a couple of friends to go out back there, you know, to
- 3:43:49leave without anyone seeing them or Paparazzi.
- 3:43:51I don't know what you famous people do.
- 3:43:53All I know is this story sucks for Mark?
- 3:43:56Sanchez, it's sucks for the guy involved.
- 3:43:58Obviously, he was supposed to call a game.
- 3:44:00The next day I believe for Fox Sports for football.
- 3:44:05And Brady Quinn filled in for Brady, Quinn filled in for him
- 3:44:08Mark, Sanchez has been pretty good on the air look.
- 3:44:11So some guys, some guys, they just party all the time.
- 3:44:15I just watched that Charlie Sheen documentary.
- 3:44:17I'm like that such a good documentary that dude didn't
- 3:44:22stop partying until he literally had HIV.
- 3:44:24And then, I think he's parted for another two years before he
- 3:44:27stopped and like, I'm serious. Some guys, just like some guys.
- 3:44:32Just, that's how they are. They're just gonna rock out like
- 3:44:35that. They're gonna party all the
- 3:44:36time, they're gonna drink until they're 80 years old and that's
- 3:44:39fine. Like, John Daly, you know, he's
- 3:44:40like I get it. But some guys, there's a time
- 3:44:45where you got to stop and you got to change up.
- 3:44:47How you're doing it? How you're partying?
- 3:44:48I have a feeling Mark. Sanchez may need to change up a
- 3:44:52little bit and I think if there's a wake-up call I would
- 3:44:55imagine this is probably a Yeah, no.
- 3:44:59I I don't know. I don't I don't know how it goes
- 3:45:04to blows like that but apparently the guy was like
- 3:45:07unloading his truck or something.
- 3:45:09So it's like somebody who worked there.
- 3:45:11I think he's got a face but here's the thing like we can
- 3:45:14make all these allegations but we will never know the absolute
- 3:45:17truth. We can kind of tie this in to
- 3:45:20the Chiron, Lacey thing with LSU and all that it's coming out
- 3:45:22that he was actually innocent and you know, social media.
- 3:45:27Crushed him until ultimately he couldn't take it anymore.
- 3:45:31So, you know, who knows? It's gonna happen with that.
- 3:45:34But wait, after effects with that are a lot.
- 3:45:38A lot harder to believe what happened with Chiron Lacey as
- 3:45:41well. And I don't know how much it
- 3:45:44lingered to the overall effects, but you definitely believe that
- 3:45:46stuff do something with that. And now that coming out later is
- 3:45:50just such a time. Now, this is different case
- 3:45:53where he's like pepper sprayers stabbing like all the sudden all
- 3:45:57over the truck and loading doctor video evidence, they have
- 3:46:01video evidence know, I know Heard it's video evidence of
- 3:46:04both of them actually, but the current license, they have real
- 3:46:07crazy video evidence. That is a lawyer found out that
- 3:46:10police were trying to I don't know what their collusion, what
- 3:46:16time, the timing of it makes you believe there has to be
- 3:46:18something with it. It's just unfortunate for
- 3:46:20somebody. So you don't want to believe
- 3:46:22it's a racial thing down in the you like that.
- 3:46:25But it's, that's a really crappy story and that, oh, yeah, we
- 3:46:30don't know. I don't know what I don't, I
- 3:46:31didn't watch the video for say the police cam footage, but
- 3:46:37you're talking about currently she was a potential first round
- 3:46:39draft picks so it's like, yeah, Malik neighbors.
- 3:46:42You know, was had some comments on line, he was his guy that
- 3:46:46they played together and, you know, it's, it's got to be real
- 3:46:49tough. You know, to even swallow that
- 3:46:52if you were friends with him, let alone family members with
- 3:46:55him. That's that's terrible.
- 3:46:56As far as the Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez, I think hiring
- 3:46:59Lacey was the victim there and Mark, Sanchez, apparently is not
- 3:47:02the victim in. This is the aggressive sounds.
- 3:47:04He's the aggressor in this. You'll never know.
- 3:47:06I guess, I mean, look, we don't know.
- 3:47:08But, you know, I just hope that everybody involved in that
- 3:47:11story. Kind of Rights their rights to
- 3:47:13ship some possible way job. But, you know, Mark, Sanchez a
- 3:47:16little bit from your time together in New York around the
- 3:47:18same time. Yeah, you send a well wish it
- 3:47:23was. It was it's it's such a weird
- 3:47:27story. Like this is why it's tough to
- 3:47:30do sometimes what we do right? Like because you want to talk
- 3:47:34about something because obviously it's news and
- 3:47:37everybody's touching on it but it's hard to create and then
- 3:47:39then you kind of put your foot in your mouth because you don't
- 3:47:42really get the whole story and tell sometimes maybe it's too
- 3:47:45late because you know, this all comes out and some people
- 3:47:47covered it when they first heard and obviously you want it, you
- 3:47:51want to be safe, but you don't know.
- 3:47:52The whole story then this comes out and it's like, damn, do you
- 3:47:54really hope he's okay? Like it's, it's just, it's hard
- 3:47:57to do sometimes me. You hope everybody's okay in the
- 3:48:01situation and and like I said, there's there's three people
- 3:48:04that that's gonna know him Mark and the good man of stairs.
- 3:48:08And that's, that's gonna be about it.
- 3:48:10And it's, it's gonna be whatever, but just hope hope
- 3:48:14everybody's okay. And it turns out.
- 3:48:15All right, man, it's a shity situation to be honest.
- 3:48:18And there's no win, really anyways, so yeah, it just, it's
- 3:48:24stinks. All Around.
- 3:48:26And you can't even make jokes about.
- 3:48:27Like it's like you can't jokes but what's even the point like
- 3:48:31the whole situation such like a crappy joke in the first place?
- 3:48:34It's just like, man. That's that's just sucks.
- 3:48:37Like, I don't know, man. That's just for everybody.
- 3:48:40It sucks, literally, it's not a good story for a single person
- 3:48:43involved. You know crazy.
- 3:48:47What do you got goodies? What's ball too?
- 3:48:51And it fell conspiracy. NFL rigging NFL ESPN Financial
- 3:48:55entanglement, His spirituality gaining traction as Arrow would
- 3:49:00say, he's been saying it for the past 35 years because the NFL
- 3:49:04owns a 10% stake in ESPN. And ESPN is deeply involved in
- 3:49:09sports broadcasting and betting media.
- 3:49:11Some believe that the league might influence outcomes
- 3:49:14officiating or narratives to boost ratings gambling
- 3:49:17engagement or profits. Close Financial connections
- 3:49:24between the media vetting and the sport race conflicts of
- 3:49:27interest. That's clearly, we're seeing it
- 3:49:30in every single category where now you're seeing even at
- 3:49:33crossover, MLB with guys betting.
- 3:49:36On certain pitches prior to the game.
- 3:49:38So the NFL the NFL can do it but individuals can't like I Don't
- 3:49:43know, dude. My my biggest thing is, then you
- 3:49:46have a ton of players come out and say NFL scripted Yeah, I
- 3:49:50don't know what will be, I think becoming like the extra
- 3:49:53glorified WWE right now, like you said the direction we're
- 3:49:58going right there. But to me, it seems like it's a
- 3:50:01possibility. This is why it's a conspiracy
- 3:50:03theory that we gotta cover on the show.
- 3:50:07Oh yeah. Arian Foster was the one that
- 3:50:08brought up two years ago, right? Right.
- 3:50:10He said, hey, it's like we 17. You're gonna blow your knee out.
- 3:50:13He's like he like he tried to post a picture with the document
- 3:50:18of the script and obviously arrow.
- 3:50:19And I made it a segment at that time to magnify for Errol is
- 3:50:23right. He said it a lot earlier than
- 3:50:25that. He the first time I remember him
- 3:50:26saying it was in 2018, the year, after the Patriots Falcons,
- 3:50:30Super Bowl you saying, with some commercials and stuff like that,
- 3:50:33were making it look rigged, which I guess fits the theory
- 3:50:36with the money and now, with the betting deal, well, that the
- 3:50:40ESPN art, the the NFL ESPN. Yes, he was the Chiefs game.
- 3:50:44Um, with the well, with the Chiefs.
- 3:50:46Yeah, I guess there's another one enough of them with exactly
- 3:50:48any of them or nothing with the Chiefs that definitely possible.
- 3:50:51But again, possibly with the Patriots, too.
- 3:50:53With that whole circumstance, I remember I was doing a project
- 3:50:56in college at that time that had to do with like the NFL like
- 3:51:00Super Bowl going to overtime that year benefited, some
- 3:51:03commercials or some companies to get extra commercials too, which
- 3:51:07is kind of interesting. So maybe now with belt betting
- 3:51:10accelerated, so it could accelerate it, I was mentioning
- 3:51:13even when I was doing the pics last week.
- 3:51:15How many like eight and nine thirteen fifteen point spreads
- 3:51:18were so many crazy ones that I was saying that made no sense.
- 3:51:22So maybe that has to go into it. That's definitely interesting.
- 3:51:25I'm probably more accelerated with the conspiracy because of
- 3:51:27the betting, but probably even more.
- 3:51:29So, with the commercials in the marketing already, So I'm going
- 3:51:34to push back, I don't think football's, right?
- 3:51:36I think there's too many things going on in the game with, just
- 3:51:40on every single play, there's 130 to plus plays every game.
- 3:51:46There's a lot that can go wrong now.
- 3:51:48Do I think in the Super Bowl, maybe they're telling to
- 3:51:50officiate a certain way? That's probably true.
- 3:51:53I you know it's certain games that they in the NFC
- 3:51:56championship game. Maybe they want to specific team
- 3:51:57in the Super Bowl, I'm willing to believe in some of those
- 3:52:00conspiracies, but to say that everything is rigged.
- 3:52:02I think that's a little nuts. I think that maybe the bigger
- 3:52:06game, the bigger Market games are rigged that maybe she are
- 3:52:12rigged. Well, they lost again tonight to
- 3:52:15the Jags my night football. I'm sure we'll talk about it on
- 3:52:18Thursday, the Chiefs only have one win two wins this year.
- 3:52:20How much money? I wonder how much money was bet
- 3:52:23on them to lose and by who? I mean, you never know if it was
- 3:52:29baseball, we'd be betting on if the first six pitches go in the
- 3:52:33dirt for a manual Class A and making a huge Fortune.
- 3:52:36You know, the prop bet thing is something that's real in
- 3:52:40football. I think it's a little bit harder
- 3:52:41to accomplish those prop bets, unless you're the one holding
- 3:52:44the football making those decisions.
- 3:52:46It's not like you can get rebounds for, for your stats,
- 3:52:49like, you can in basketball. I think it's a lot harder as,
- 3:52:53like, from that way to rig a game, but can the league shape
- 3:52:57the season, the way they wanted to, I think they've done it and
- 3:53:00I think they can continue to do. So, I, I would say I'll agree
- 3:53:04with that, but the rest of it, I don't think so.
- 3:53:05The one thing it's actually easier foreign football is
- 3:53:08because there's a shorter season like it easier to say.
- 3:53:10All right, we won more game, could help this team get in.
- 3:53:13Then all the sudden, you can get the desired outcome or desire to
- 3:53:16match up to get the money Revenue to get the playoff
- 3:53:19matchup that you want to. That, or maybe is more
- 3:53:21controllable compared to basketball or there's 82 games,
- 3:53:24it's hard to control, basketball is probably easier.
- 3:53:26Player to manipulate then the if it were being football.
- 3:53:29But yeah, for a shorter season for football, it's easier.
- 3:53:34I'm I may be able to get on the show a former referee that was
- 3:53:40with Boveda and Noah's Tim Donaghy.
- 3:53:44And was actually in this he was one of the guys that was an
- 3:53:48undercover cop that was like in the mob as an undercover cop
- 3:53:52before, he was an NBA referee. So remind me, I think I can get
- 3:53:55that guy on to see if he can get some real rigging stories.
- 3:54:00You might not see he might not be at Bay to say though you know
- 3:54:03I think he's retired. So I I think this is a guy that
- 3:54:07may tell us, you know Job. What do you think, man?
- 3:54:14I think there's some of it and and every sport to an extent it
- 3:54:19there's just so many things that we've seen where It just it's
- 3:54:24hard not to believe it to to some degree.
- 3:54:27Especially when like you're already in pocket with the
- 3:54:30bedding and you're getting money.
- 3:54:32Like and when Whether smoked there's fire, right?
- 3:54:37It's like an iceberg what you just see on the service but
- 3:54:40they're so much more to what like you said, did you?
- 3:54:44I think all of it is and I agree with you fish.
- 3:54:47I don't think it all is But are there are there, some things
- 3:54:51like, is it scripted to, and I remember that area Foster like
- 3:54:55they showed like the pieces of paper and it was highlighted or
- 3:54:57whatever. Like I, There's there's got to
- 3:55:02be something. To it.
- 3:55:04If we've if it keeps repeating itself, right?
- 3:55:07I just don't know what I would hope.
- 3:55:10It's not crazy embedded in the game, but it's just like How I
- 3:55:15just, it's very hypocritical to me that you can own 10% of it
- 3:55:20and affected that like affected that way.
- 3:55:23But you get a guy like, oh, what's to stop me from throwing
- 3:55:28this incomplete pass? At the end of the third quarter,
- 3:55:31because there's a lot, you know what I'm saying?
- 3:55:32Like not that they know that exact one but it's like
- 3:55:36anything. It's like the dude singing the
- 3:55:38National Anthem. I'm giving all my buddies 100
- 3:55:40Grand because they said I'm gonna go under a minute and 42
- 3:55:44seconds, and I'm just gonna make it longer.
- 3:55:47Like it's kind of the same thing, just on a different
- 3:55:49scale, but I think there's some validity to it.
- 3:55:53I don't think it's totally embedded in it.
- 3:55:57Good. I mean, it's a good.
- 3:55:59It's a good topic. It's good.
- 3:56:00It's good. We need to have two like in
- 3:56:03goodies bag of balls when it comes up like there's got to be
- 3:56:06like a UFO sighting and like the top right corner or something.
- 3:56:08Just always I got I got this one.
- 3:56:11Very good. Where is it?
- 3:56:13You got one crazier. A screwball.
- 3:56:19I mean, there's definitely a few out there.
- 3:56:21There's a guy who like picked up a meteor and Brazil or something
- 3:56:24and now it's turning to looking like a Venom, you have to go
- 3:56:27down the rabbit hole in that one.
- 3:56:28I'm sure you see that on social media.
- 3:56:30That's that is a wild one. Wait, you're telling me Venoms
- 3:56:35in Brazil? Is that we just think it's a
- 3:56:37Brazil. Yeah, I don't know.
- 3:56:39I mean I'm like on the fence with that one.
- 3:56:41I'm not too sure. I haven't really looked into it
- 3:56:43too much. It's popped up on my feeds a
- 3:56:44couple times and I've kind of just dabbled in it, but I'm not
- 3:56:47like fully in it because I think that one's kind of BS.
- 3:56:50But you know, It's there's there there out there.
- 3:56:54Oh no, they're there for sure. And there's some you're just
- 3:56:58like, oh That that really I can't argue that.
- 3:57:03Then there's summer like what? What is he smoking?
- 3:57:06Because that's the one from the Brazil won like like the that's
- 3:57:12the one I'm just like I don't know man.
- 3:57:14It looks like a potato, you know, that and now he's like CGI
- 3:57:18and some vent on just shit that's just like coming out
- 3:57:21everywhere. And like, wrapping around things
- 3:57:23it's kind of wild looking. I mean, You get a wild hair,
- 3:57:26would just go down it and take a look.
- 3:57:28But the last fall I got, is MLB, viewership is surging, during a
- 3:57:35Wild Card round and on into the Al and NL divisional.
- 3:57:40Series, ESPN's coverage of 2025 MLB wild, card games.
- 3:57:45All record viewership, especially among younger fans.
- 3:57:49I think everybody is doing this six, seven thing, whatever that
- 3:57:53is but it right, here's suggest that MLB is here.
- 3:57:58That's here to stay. We go.
- 3:57:59We've got a really good strong appeal for the younger fans, and
- 3:58:03and all the games were high stake.
- 3:58:05I think they all came down to game three, maybe minus one
- 3:58:08Series in LA. And just being around Youth,
- 3:58:14Baseball, you can tell the kids are fired up about it.
- 3:58:16Super excited. Like I actually genuinely
- 3:58:18wanting to watch the game and watch their favorite players,
- 3:58:21and it's good to have a good mix of, you know, star power, and
- 3:58:26then, you know, bigger Market teams and then these smaller
- 3:58:28Market teams that are playing like Listen to Brewers are just
- 3:58:32unbelievable. Like and you asked any of the
- 3:58:36kids now and they probably maybe no one or two guys on the
- 3:58:39Brewers maybe and so well what's crazy goody what's crazy too.
- 3:58:44And why I think like it has, you know, surgeon and it is
- 3:58:49continues to go up is because they've kind of tried to they I
- 3:58:54guess. Adhered to like the cultural
- 3:58:57standards of what things are like, you know, you gotta have
- 3:59:01drips Swag Like and they're letting them have it, like
- 3:59:03nailer. Look at, look at his arm sleeve
- 3:59:06in his shoes, like, little kids love that stuff.
- 3:59:09You know what I'm saying? And like, just the individualism
- 3:59:12that they let him do with their gloves, their spikes, where it
- 3:59:16used to be, you could never do it.
- 3:59:18Then it was players weekend right now, it's kind of, its
- 3:59:22kind of just grown into like now, let's let them be there.
- 3:59:26You know? Two, two degrees like, you're
- 3:59:29not going to be Mr. T, and like have 38 chains on, you can wear
- 3:59:32one or two used to be just one. Now, some people get away with
- 3:59:35two but you can have custom cleats all the time and like
- 3:59:39kids, see that. And it's like, oh, it's cool to
- 3:59:42play baseball like I can design my cleats or, you know, now bats
- 3:59:46have dope logo's and just the plain just east in Louisville,
- 3:59:49just whatever. So, I think and then now, you
- 3:59:52know, you got pencil backs, you've got all these kind of,
- 3:59:55super cool. Hot baths or ice cream that's
- 3:59:58fire where and that's like you see it?
- 4:00:01You see it. I was from the Youth Level with
- 4:00:03your kids and like, you know, they're oh I got the trouts or
- 4:00:07I've got, you know, whoever's cleats like where that really
- 4:00:09wasn't a thing in baseball. It was always basketball
- 4:00:12related. And so, I think they've done a
- 4:00:14really good job. That's broadening for younger.
- 4:00:17Yeah, the younger, the younger generation because the baseball
- 4:00:21old ads are gonna be baseball today, they're going to be the
- 4:00:24ones that are fighting with the young kids that create dialogue.
- 4:00:27Be like if you have known back in the day when they could slide
- 4:00:30into second knock, knock each, other out, fought, and then got
- 4:00:33back up and stayed in like you're not just my opinion.
- 4:00:38I think if we could have baseball blend a little bit of
- 4:00:42hockey rules. Into it or like if both players
- 4:00:45agree and they throw their gloves down.
- 4:00:47It's on. Are you would see if you were
- 4:00:51ship? 200x.
- 4:00:53Oh well I mean you just there I remember stories back in the day
- 4:00:57and you probably heard him too. Is like one of my favorite ones
- 4:01:00was literally heart. Who obviously you know as well
- 4:01:03the bullpen coach Which was crazy.
- 4:01:06He was in the Ken, Griffey junior.
- 4:01:08He was supposed to be the number one pick.
- 4:01:09They ended up taking a dude named Ken Griffey, Junior love,
- 4:01:13heart to death. That is my dude, like to this
- 4:01:15day, we still talk, but I think they made the right pick an old
- 4:01:19Griffey, but they literally Sean Dunstan and Ryan Sandberg.
- 4:01:22They're literally like I think I don't remember who was throwing
- 4:01:25but doesn't took off his chain was like, hold this.
- 4:01:28I'm going to get him. They hit our guy, they fought,
- 4:01:31they booked Dusty each other off.
- 4:01:32They got back in the box and it was over, like, I love seeing
- 4:01:35that stuff if you if you could get.
- 4:01:38But How do you balance that? And then, you know, everybody's
- 4:01:41like oh there's no place for retaliation.
- 4:01:43Well, sticking up for your teammates and the right way.
- 4:01:46There's something to be said about it.
- 4:01:49If you want it out, it'd be sweet.
- 4:01:50I mean, you know, like what you maybe you I mean, let's change
- 4:01:56the game. How this just let the voice
- 4:01:58fight a little bit? You know, that's kind of my
- 4:02:00point. Now, this thing in about good,
- 4:02:01he is, I think it's, you know, Harold know, pushes back on some
- 4:02:05of the changes, Theo Epstein. Who's been working with baseball
- 4:02:11after he's, you know, left managing historic franchises
- 4:02:15with historic wins, starting with Boston.
- 4:02:17Moving on now, this guy is now responsible for a lot of this,
- 4:02:22you know, ABS stuff that we're going to see next year these The
- 4:02:26bigger bases, the faster games, the pitch clock.
- 4:02:31Apparently it's working. That's what that's my take from
- 4:02:34this this stuff they're doing is working.
- 4:02:37They're getting a young audience.
- 4:02:38They're trying to. This is what they've been trying
- 4:02:42to do. Maybe they didn't tell us all
- 4:02:44the things they were trying to do is far as attracting the
- 4:02:46youth but obviously making the game quicker.
- 4:02:49Having there be less downtime, have it?
- 4:02:51Be I guess more exciting for kids who are just stuck looking
- 4:02:55at phones all day for the most part, you know, in New York,
- 4:02:58they actually banned phones in school.
- 4:03:00So it's kind of wild to see kids operate without phones from 7:30
- 4:03:04to 2:00 every day. You know?
- 4:03:06Like they just like fiend for it like crackheads at times, you
- 4:03:09know, like they just need to go run to their locker and get on
- 4:03:12their phone or like they tried to find a way around it with the
- 4:03:15Chromebook or something like that, and still talk to their
- 4:03:17friends and do that. What they're saying?
- 4:03:18Stuff, it's, it's wild and I think you have, it's a different
- 4:03:22generation and the fact that they're making some games with a
- 4:03:25very difficult generation to reach in my opinion.
- 4:03:28I think that's, that's a pretty big deal for baseball, going,
- 4:03:31forwards. And I think the Ops Deserves a
- 4:03:34bunch of credit. It's also, yes things.
- 4:03:36I think you look at like strategy game in baseball, like
- 4:03:40the the aspect of it being an untimed thing and now you're
- 4:03:44incorporating, new strategies, and whether it would work or not
- 4:03:46to try to accommodate for the speed and comedy for the pace of
- 4:03:49some of these younger fans that are just gonna want to watch the
- 4:03:52game for the excitement, not as much for the strategy, like you
- 4:03:55see a lot of the people even my age or even older than that are
- 4:03:58players of your era. And even before that that
- 4:04:01appreciate the game's Nuance is not getting that as much as he
- 4:04:04was some of these young girl fans.
- 4:04:06Unfortunately, like you would in basketball, or you wouldn't
- 4:04:09football as the Highlight Reel things too, and it's just harder
- 4:04:11with. Also, the local TV networks with
- 4:04:13everything that happened at them too.
- 4:04:14Damn, trying to get back on track.
- 4:04:15We've had a lot of different guests that have mentioned,
- 4:04:17that's been the biggest downfall of baseball, but now that's
- 4:04:19getting the game picked up again.
- 4:04:21Now, you're gonna see the results.
- 4:04:24No, definitely. I mean I think it would just
- 4:04:26think the changes will, you know, everything heals with time
- 4:04:30and you know it's always a culture shock when they make the
- 4:04:33changes right off the rip. But I mean.
- 4:04:37Things are still being implemented, they ABS will be
- 4:04:41coming here. Like you mentioned last year,
- 4:04:45you know, the new playoff rules everything or the new playoff
- 4:04:48format and everything, which I think has been pretty good the
- 4:04:51pitch clock and the only you can, you know, each picture has
- 4:04:54to face three hitters, and then you can only pick off x amount
- 4:04:58of times like, At some point, it'll just be like, oh wait, you
- 4:05:03played in the 90s, like oh my gosh, those Barbarian, you know,
- 4:05:07but if we're getting younger kids and the game is safer and,
- 4:05:12you know, as long as as long as they used is still watching it
- 4:05:15and baseball still a thing which I think, you know, it is and
- 4:05:17it's here to stay and always has been here to stay, it's
- 4:05:20America's pastime. I think we're in a good spot and
- 4:05:23if you think Theo Epstein deserves the credit and yeah,
- 4:05:26give credit where credit's do. I mean, there's always gonna be
- 4:05:29people who want to push back that at the end of the day,
- 4:05:31like, Hey if you were ship a searching you know what that
- 4:05:35means bigger TV deals, bigger TV deals me, more money and these
- 4:05:38guys Pockets. So Amen.
- 4:05:41Are you that you saying a good thing Baseballs in a good place
- 4:05:45right now? Or at least a better place than
- 4:05:47it was? And we're in a better place
- 4:05:49right now because we just finished the show that's been a
- 4:05:52great show tonight. Guys went a little long didn't
- 4:05:54expect old to join in on the whip.
- 4:05:56Around did a great job did it come in for Daniel shows
- 4:05:59Florida. He had to come into troll me for
- 4:06:02Daniel Jones. Of course, he did.
- 4:06:03He was very good with that timing, a little suspiciously
- 4:06:06good with that timing. Think he may have been paying
- 4:06:09attention and hopping in but you know, I thought it was a real
- 4:06:12good show that special thanks to Thomas karantha fan sided, his
- 4:06:17content director co-host of the Yanks go yard podcast, follow
- 4:06:21him at X at Tommy's underscore takes and find his channel on
- 4:06:25YouTube. He was fantastic.
- 4:06:27Really good stuff on the Yankees earlier tonight.
- 4:06:30We had a lot of fun. Thanks special.
- 4:06:32Thanks to Jake and Armando. Horta coming on talking about
- 4:06:35their beloved Penn State, Nittany Lions, and the
- 4:06:38struggles. They're dealing with over here
- 4:06:41and a real special. Thanks to our intern Jarrett who
- 4:06:44did all the work backstage as a producer for the first time
- 4:06:47while I'm here in the host chair.
- 4:06:49That's a great job by you Jared, thank you for all the work that
- 4:06:52you put in tonight was Jared was rocking a jersey two.
- 4:06:54What Jersey was he rocking? Yeah, Jared come on into the
- 4:06:57screen. You deserve to be in here for a
- 4:06:59little bit at the end of the Show, you got some kind of
- 4:07:01basketball jersey going. Where we got you.
- 4:07:06I'll speedy. Here, I'll bounce out.
- 4:07:10No, you're fine. It just means speed, you're
- 4:07:12having a war of who's going to add us add Jarrett right now
- 4:07:15with our clicker fingers, Jarrett, I think you might be
- 4:07:18frozen. So we're not gonna see it right
- 4:07:20now unfortunately. But Jared's done a great job for
- 4:07:23us. Arrow will be back.
- 4:07:25We're not having the show on Wednesday because he's not gonna
- 4:07:28be back. So we're gonna have it on
- 4:07:29Thursday. So, pay attention to show will
- 4:07:31be on Thursday by then. We'll know if the Yankees are
- 4:07:35going to game five, what we're doing a post-mortem on the
- 4:07:37season. Also Thursday Speedy, the Giants
- 4:07:40face the Eagles. We're gonna have to do the show
- 4:07:43live while that's going on. I don't know if I can handle
- 4:07:46that. That's going to be tough one.
- 4:07:47I think they're going to get absolutely murdered.
- 4:07:49It's it's not good, it's not a good look for the Giants, but
- 4:07:53maybe the Eagles are little, you know, struggling a little bit.
- 4:07:56Maybe Brian Davis. And Shane Bowen will cook
- 4:07:59something up for him, Speedy. What was by 14?
- 4:08:05Honestly, if they lose, I guess losing is losing at this point,
- 4:08:08but I do hope it's a little bit competitive, but it should be
- 4:08:12good on Thursday. Who do you, who do we have
- 4:08:13coming on Thursday? Well, thanks to the, the new
- 4:08:17king of the jungle for getting us.
- 4:08:18These two guests too, very special guests.
- 4:08:21First one is Jane Butler. She's the CEO of the nonprofit
- 4:08:25organization. Encouraged kids Foundation based
- 4:08:27out of based out of New York, supporting hospitalized
- 4:08:31children. She'll be the first one and the
- 4:08:32second one is a celebrity, chef Glenn romick, who is the
- 4:08:35director of culinary operations for the ala carte restaurant
- 4:08:38group where he's worked there for the last 11 years in New
- 4:08:42York city. So both of them will be joining
- 4:08:43us at 8:45 That's great. You know we've been trying to
- 4:08:47talk about to get with some of these people that do these kind
- 4:08:50of functions. Get our name out there, be a
- 4:08:53part of some of those better functions that are going on
- 4:08:55especially charitable things. That's something that job in the
- 4:08:58mouth is going to be looking forward to doing in the next
- 4:09:00calendar year. You guys are going to see us
- 4:09:03around you're going to see us everywhere.
- 4:09:04I know job is doing the rounds and lots of podcasts all over
- 4:09:07the place, you see them. Give them a shout out.
- 4:09:09If you guys like to follow us, you see all our handles on the
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- 4:09:1786 at and goody 4041. And eighty Speedy, peedy KK 87
- 4:09:23guys. It's been a wonderful night.
- 4:09:25I hope you guys get some good rest and we'll see you back on
- 4:09:28Thursday. Have a good one, everybody.