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From Drug Dealer to Pastor: A Story of Redemption · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_02]: Next, on the love of yours.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So when I'm fifteen, I sell my first piece of crack cocaine.
• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my mom in the streets and now I'm in the streets.
• 0:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time I'm eighteen, I'm traveling back and forth from Florence, Alabama, to Detroit, Michigan, on the Greyhound, Bust of the Drugs.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the street value at Keylor, cocaine at that point is twenty nine thousand dollars.
• 0:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so at this point now, I can't pay for the only thing I've always wanted in my life.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Love.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: August first, two thousand and five out of LBI and a D.E.A.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and died in me.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: L. Rest in me.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: In Alabama.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: In Alabama.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just an choice of conspiracy to attempt to deliver and conspiracy to attempt to possess, fifty to one hundred fifty kilos of cocaine, two thousand pounds of marijuana.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: They wrapped me up in a conspiracy with twenty seven of the people.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when they wrapped me up in the conspiracy, now they're trying to say, I had this person killed.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had this person killed.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: At this person killed, they're trying to bring the Rico law in.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a first cousin that got killed on the case that was dealing with counterfeit money.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were trying to bring all that in.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And had a Rico law come in.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the boys come back to me and the sale and say, it's this.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not in wrong with you talking too much.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just talking about the wrong thing.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to talk back to the boys, the boys don't talk back.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to talk.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll let that go back to sleep.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll wake up the next morning, excited.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And some said, you said you was going to change.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, I am when I get out.
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the Holy Spirit said, now, you made a deal.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You made a vow.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You said, if I give you your purpose, I can have your life.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want it now.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pick up the Bible, man.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, hey, I started reading the Bible.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, it wasn't a book no more.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: For some reason, I get so locked into the story, I can smell the dust as Abraham is taking Isaac up the mountain moriah, getting rid of the sacrifice.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I knew without a shot of a doubt, okay.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I know what I don't want.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have been on the internet and then you run into somebody on Instagram, TikTok or Facebook or YouTube, which one you'd be on, put it in the comment.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you just keep seeing this person over and over again.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, you just click on there and you listen to the audio.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you'd be live.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hit me kind of hard you haven't dead to do that haven't you especially when it comes like pastors influencers inspiration of speakers or whatever I don't know what your algorithm looks like I don't know what your explore page look like but for me it's all workout inspiration My dear brother Katie Bo we were on some conference call some some years back and and I like mirror my phone and show my explore page is like that was a boy
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's something else.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, it's only workout and inspiration.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty much all I look at on my own line.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this one particular gentleman, he was sitting there and he was with his wife.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I seen him on numerous occasions and I'm, you know, so I'm naturally an encourager.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I see him speak with his wife and they were talking about honoring the voice of a man and a husband.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh my God, like so many men need to hear that they need their voice on it because many men didn't even know that that's what they needed.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't know that when their wife comes home and talks about a boss that's so, you know, with a boss that's so nice and he was this dissonist.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, they think that's just genuinely being cool.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the man begins to think about all the times he's giving you similar suggestions and it never came to life.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe you don't think anything is wrong with it.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You come home to like,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to have a word today.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I listen to every single word and then the man subconsciously thinks it's that you can listen for more than seven minutes without you arguing back and forth with me and even getting to talk about the importance of honoring the man's voice.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said you know what I have had enough.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Madder God, you got to come to the show because you are filled with wisdom.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know we've been friends online for the last couple years, but I have to get you here.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And man, I'm so grateful for my dear brother from Texas for flying in.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pastor James is in the house.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing, man?
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me, man.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, listen, I call you Mr. Byron.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think like every time you say something, your wife says something, it's all over my algorithm, man.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: God gives the glory.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, indeed.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's your, man?
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing?
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing what, and you know, I hear people say that all time, like, guys get to glory.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But when you say it, I really, really, really believe it, because you have such a unique backstory from where you came from and then seeing what God is doing in your life.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me the name of the church.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Transformation, transforming faith, Christians in them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Transforming faith, Christians in them, and it is in Houston, Texas.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: H time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, somebody.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you originally from Houston?
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm from Alabama, Florence, Alabama.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, how you get the Houston?
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I guess we, we go on there.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I knew the opening was coming.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even write a script for this one.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was so good at what you got you.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my story goes as follows.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I won't sell everything, but I tell a few things to get to how I got the Houston.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: My father was killed when I was four.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my mom was addicted to drugs, crack cocaine, and particularly until I was seventeen.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my grandmother's mom and dad, my mom and my dad's mother.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had a part in raising me.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my mom's mom, she raised me.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I was nine years old, she started having hard feel you, congestive hard feel you.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I was twelve, she passed away.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I had to move in with my mom when I was like ten.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my mom is in the streets addicted to crack cocaine.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So every single day I face verbal abuse, mental abuse, physical abuse on so many amounts of occasions.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: She looked at me and told me, I was the worst mistake she ever made.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, Grummother dies at twelve, and like, man, what am I gonna do?
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I don't make it to the NBA, what an NFL, because my mom and snatched me off the football team, because I'm bad in school, and it's simply from a lack of love and a lack of attention, because my Grummother was in not the hospital, and so I'm pretty much feeling like I'm by myself.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: My brother's living in the house with us at any time.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, my mom go off on a bench and some of you just call his dad, his dad will come get him.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm stuck by myself.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when grandma died at twelve and mom snatched me off the football team, I just said this, if I don't make it to the NBA or the NFL, I just sell drugs for the foot of the rest of my life.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when I'm fifteen, I sell my first piece of crack cocaine.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my mom in the streets and now I'm in the streets.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time I'm eighteen, I'm traveling back and forth from Florence, Alabama, to Detroit, Michigan, on the Greyhound, Baltimore, drugs.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: My first cousins came down from Detroit, sold it on the streets and they like, we about to play with it.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're going to get in it, we're going all the way in it.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so they grabbed me, take me to Detroit.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Put me back on the bus on a large amount of cocaine.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I come back by the time I'm twenty.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, by the time I'm twenty, I didn't bolt a kilo of cocaine at twenty years old in a street value.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Keylor cocaine at that point is twenty nine thousand dollars.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so at this point now, I can't pay for the only thing I've always wanted in my life.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: love, you know, on pan, aunties, uncles, everybody I want them to love me or whatsoever.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when I'm twenty one, no, my so good.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my brother makes
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: a life-changing, a life-altern decision where he's gotten ran back to his apartment.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Him and his friend is being ran back to his apartment by three white guys.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They run him in the house, they beat him on the door with bats, table leagues with nails out of them, dad pulls up, jumps out of the car, my brother come outside.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, we didn't have anything to do with what y'all got going on.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Leave us alone.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They start coming up to him, corner him, at his doorstep at his house, make a long story show it.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had to shoot all three of them, kill all three of them, right at his doorstep.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is much, this is May third, two thousand one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I am just two thousand.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm twenty one years old.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: My brother is on the run and they are calling him an animal on America's Mosul on it.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's just the whole segment is kind of like the amount of our story, though.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You remember the amount of our story back when he was talking through the neighborhood and just having me shot him.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this was a little bit different because they came thinking my brother jumped on him and they he didn't, but they like we're going to kill you about the dude is he ended up killing him on his door still.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's on the run.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they catch him five months later in Arizona.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Extradite him back.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when they extradite him back, I walk up to this sale to sell door.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, I'm to me, it changed me for the rest of my life.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Believe it or not, at twenty one years old, my brother had never told me he loved me.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm looking at him and his door, and the sale door, and I'm like, oh, are you killed these folks?
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he said, bro.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wipe them tears up man.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I killed them because it was going to be me or them.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: That ain't the issue.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: The issue is these white people trying to give me a life without I'm trying to give me the lecture to you.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't got no mom on the give me no money.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: My dad ain't got no money.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to do it.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, bro, all these people know I'm going to be all these lawyers going to be asking for a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, two hundred thousand dollars.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's twenty five years ago.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what I'm gonna do, he looked at me, say, man, I love you, man.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I only let these people kill me.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you see it there, it's some just broken me, man.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say, man, I can't let these people take my brother, right?
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I go to an attorney, how much is it gonna cost?
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hundred thousand, hundred twenty five thousand, hundred fifty thousand.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every attorney, high-calibur case, round the verse, the state of Alabama, killed the Ashley brothers, high-powered case.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so at this point, I finally find the lawyer.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to cost about a hundred and twenty five thousand.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, man, I got fifteen thousand of my name.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what I'm gonna do, man.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get you ten.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And man, I'm gonna pay you every single Friday.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm coming up with something.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, pay you off.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, my brother get, uh, he get indicted on March the fifth, two thousand one.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't pay the attorney at this point about twenty five thousand.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I owe him a hundred.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: The judge say right then, this case gonna be out of my quit room in the next ninety days.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so my brother, Lord, you're like, how can that happen?
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, man, it's a triple capital murder case.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't do this in ninety days.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It takes seven, eight years.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: This case is going to be out of my courtroom in ninety days.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make a long story short.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ninety days.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hustle up to hundred and twenty five thousand to pay them off.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in my mind, all I'm trying to do is it ain't about none, but my brother's life.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so they go to trial.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They find him guilty.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he had getting ready to give him the dope film, and the mom, to all the three white guy stands up and says, it's been too much killer.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want him to have the dope film, we'll settle for life without for all.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: The case during the week, though, will this so much tension?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Black against white.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fifty, you got fifty people who took the stand.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: All fifty of them telling fifty different stories.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the black sand, if it was me, I'd have killed them too.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like flat out, white sand.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, he shouldn't have did it there.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could have did something else.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was just a straight up meeting him.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got the ups on him before they got it to him.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And make a long story short.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He ended up getting light without parole, man.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm landing my mom's bed in WACP at the house.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: All these news cameras.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: My hair feel like it's about to explode.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: My daughter getting ready to be born.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the way to the world on my shoulder.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got three thousand dollars of my name, Willie, and I'm saying to myself, I got to get this stuff up, man, because I got called up, man, my brother got late without out having been in prison.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what else am I going to do?
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm really trying to figure this thing out.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And one thought to me, came to me, said, go back to the streets.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you might get killed.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Next thought, said, well, have you read that?
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you sold that type of dope?
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Raise that type of money for your brother?
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: What can you do for yourself?
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can really get out there and buy, turn it on.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You turn it on.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought you was going to go to the law.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I ain't go to the law.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went back out there the same man.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get Richard die trying.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: September of two thousand three, these two years later, I'm in Houston, and an attempt to buy five kilos of cocaine for eighty four thousand dollars to my surprise, do get me the other man, Rod me, put a gun in my face, put a trigger, but the gun don't fire.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Rod me for eighty four thousand dollars.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get back home for weeks, I'm having nightmares, man.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why in the world am I still alive, man?
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, wait.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so now I'm like, you gotta be a better way.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get connected with some folks, man.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They bring the dope to the door.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I ain't got to come back here at the move.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I get connected with some people.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They start bringing it to the door.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: All kind of other crazy stuff going on.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: August first, two thousand and five to LBI and a D.E.A.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: and died in me.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: L. Rest in me.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Alabama.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Alabama just stands short as of conspiracy to attempt to deliver and conspiracy to attempt to possess.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fifty to one hundred fifty key loads of cocaine, two thousand pounds of marijuana.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: They wrapped me up in a conspiracy with twenty seven other people.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when they wrapped me up in the conspiracy, now they're trying to say, I had this person killed.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had this person killed.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had this person killed.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: They trying to bring the Rico law in.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a first cousin that got killed on the case that was dealing with counterfeit money.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've trying to bring all that in and how the Rico law come in.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of grace to God.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: They August seventeen, two thousand six.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I stand before a judge, Sharon Blackburn, and he would go black building in Birmingham, Alabama.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: She sent his me to ninety six months in federal prison.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: When everything come out, and when the fans came in, they say, man, we need word about the toe.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got you with the toe.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to hit you with these murders.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when everything come out, I don't have nothing to do with anything.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So first time, end up getting eight years in federal prison, and on my way to prison, no distractions, no one will rush in, no one will interfere.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I begin to entertain the questions of growth.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, if I go back out here selling drugs the same way, I would sell them, I'd get locked up.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: When I got locked up next time, I'd get a light without parole sentence.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say, man, being honest with you, I ain't believe God was real.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because in my mind, if God is so real, my grandmother raised me, man, and she, in my mind, my grandma was perfect, right?
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But every single mind,
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you started raining, we had to put pots in the middle of the floor because we're in abstract poverty.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to figure out how we're gonna make it from month to month.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, if God is good, why don't come and get us up out of this?
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I start selling drugs to get out of poverty in the by love.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm in prison where I cannot run from anything.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got a face man face you.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm like, God, if you real, I make a deal with you.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you give me my purpose, you can have my life.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't coming to God.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will ask him to make me born again because I didn't even know what born again was.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I really didn't even know.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew you get baptized when you go to church.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that means you're going to heaven.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know nothing about heaven coming in to me.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just coming to God saying, if you give me my purpose, you know, my life.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm right over here on the other side of the Atlantic, the federal prison count.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We paying God, are you here?
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come back.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're just back in two thousand six.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We paying God to leave and come back in one night.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went out, came back and got cold.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get called.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get locked up in a morning man sale and I really throw my at my arms in the air for real.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm tired.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said that going in, but when I walked into prison and saw everything going on, I'm like, I got money.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can, man, I can buy, I can do it up.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I get connected with some cats who pan the guards, the leaves.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, we can do that.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can do what?
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So greatest thing happening to me is I went night.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went out and got cold.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I get cold.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm in a one man cell.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, God, I'm really tired.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you real, if you just show me my purpose, you can have my real.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And man, I had an encounter with God in prison that really, really shifted everything in my life.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you about it.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm reading, I'm a, I'm a, I'm praying and asking God this, you give me my purpose, you can have my life.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And one day a week later, I get a book in the mail by Joel Osteen.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's entitled Your Best Life Now.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, that's the book that switched me up.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm the playing.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Coming from here, like, go here.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there right?
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't let people talk about Joel.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my bad.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I forgot you.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was here.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Me either.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this book changed my whole life.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you were in the role of your best life now, I wouldn't be who I am today.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, he write this book your best life now and she after one is entitled and lawging you vision, I'm in the hole woman, one minute sale and for the first time in my life, twenty seven years old, he make me understand a concept of vision.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, if you can't see yourself doing it on the inside, you'll never be able to experience it on the outside.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you can never see yourself going to the NBA on the inside, young fellas, you'll never be able to do it on the outside.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can never see yourself building the business internally, you'll never experience it externally.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So for the first time in my life, I say, man, this makes sense.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, man, God, if you just show me what I'm creative for, you can have my wife.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember how I used to be like, man, I'm gonna take a hundred and sixty thousand to Houston by ten kilos of cocaine, come back, sell them for twenty-five, I'm gonna make ninety and six days.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw it internally.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it would happen externally.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I say, man, I can see it, but I ain't never seen myself doing nothing, but selling dough.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I said that, some said to me, keep reading the chapter.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I keep reading the chapter over and over again, keep reading the chapter.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I try to go to chapter two, bloom what you're planning.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some dragging me back the chapter one.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And round about the eighth time on reading this chapter, then all of a sudden, some happens to me.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: that Kenneth Hagen will call it, or out of the body experience.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like my spirit and my soul left my body and I went to a place, I saw sea of people.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as I'm looking, I look to the right.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see my auntie and my dad's mom was my grandma and my mom.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: They ain't white.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I look to the left.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see my two uncles.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They ain't all white.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I look at myself.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in all white.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boom.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm back in the sale.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm thinking I'm hallucinating.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking I'm going crazy.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't, I couldn't put language to encounter with God then.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really thinking I'm losing my mind because I've been in the sea about two weeks and I ain't trying to talk into me.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ain't nothing going on.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I jump up, run to the door, man.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get the door until the, uh,
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: The orderly to go get the correctional also.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He go get him bringing back.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He like, man, you're I, I'm crying.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a steric.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, man, I gotta put somebody in to put somebody in with me.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm losing my mind.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked at me like a whole man.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: You wanted them to.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was down there.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can a fool at that count.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't want to got caught going there going going out and coming back in.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He slammed the door.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He like, man, this is what happened, man.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: We try to play the system to put the system into playing you.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He like, you'll be all right.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope we don't have to get you know medicine.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you all lose your mind.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they say if you stand you're long enough, you'll go crazy.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm really terrified.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like my god, man, I'm seeing stuff on the world going home.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then I could off the light said nine o'clock.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm terrified because I'm like, man, Lieutenant, what's about to happen?
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go to sleep.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: The exact same thing I saw in that open vision, this time I saw it in the dream.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But now I'm preaching, I got a microphone in my mouth.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my auntie hid me on the back saying, boy, you better preach.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, you better preach.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I jumped up out my sleep.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say, God, call me to preach.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, preach way.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, don't boy, preach.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I heard a voice say it is, what is the thing about you did everybody?
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey,
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you say it's your mouth.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Instantly, I remember three things that happened before I got locked up, ran into a me and my auntie.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get my first Cadillac Escalade, twenty-two years old.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, don't play with it.
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got twenty-three thousand dollars in my pocket.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, that's why we ran.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We believe we had the cash and I pocketed like that, too.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you rub a band's on there, keep a rope.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, two thousand one.
• 20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: What?
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: How about the expedition?
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I got my auntie.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: She got great credit.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: She got businesses all these.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We down in the finance office.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she like, she's signing all the papers.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm running the office.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Put this down.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my, my payments to be so hot.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get out of here.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: What can you spend your mouth?
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You talked too much.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll run out.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Next instance happened, it's coming to me.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with an old girlfriend, and I'm at a table, even dinner with her in a coworker, because I'm talking about a lot of money, all the stuff I'm going on.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: She looked at me.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't stand y'all mouth.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: You talk too much.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sound just like a girl.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the voice come back to me in the sale and says, it's this.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not in wrong with you talking too much.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just talking about the wrong thing.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to talk back to the voice of voice, don't talk back.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to talk.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will later go back to sleep.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll wake up the next morning, excited.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And some say, you said you was going to change.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, I am when I get out.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the Holy Spirit said, no, you made a deal.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You made a vow.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said, if I give you your purpose, I can have your life.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want it now.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pick up the Bible, man.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say, hey, I started reading the Bible.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, it wasn't a book no more.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: For some reason, I get so locked into the story, I can smell the dust as Abraham is taking Isaac up the mountain Mariah, getting rid of the sacrifice.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason now, I feel, and so deep in it is Bible in the hole, that from the time I get up to the time I go to be, I'm just reading this Bible and this Bible sticking like gloopro.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, ten months later, I've been reading the Bible from some of the sundown.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They shipped me all the way to big spring Texas.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now, something has hit me, you're not doing time, you invest in time.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: meaning, I'm learning and growing in the word of God to such a good profile in the green.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm starting a battle, Masonic Jews, Morris signs, temples, SUNY Muslims, you know, more fair accounts Muslims.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I forget my mind is just what's in them.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, no disrespecting them.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the guy who, who outside right now in front of the mall?
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He bruised with lies.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm battling these guys, day in and day out, learning in the word,
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: for the next four and a half years.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I come home, I come home and go to church.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I go to church, the church shun me.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I hear God calls you to be acid and not a liability.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, go where?
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: How?
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The church told me, even won't leave it.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm back home while I'm from.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody know who I used to be.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I come back on change, man.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, God sent me here to help you.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: What you're going to help me do?
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: What you need me to do?
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've been alive on the brain, everybody from everywhere in here.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't put my faith in me and come out of prison.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, huh?
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: My son did it.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know some of the people who did it.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Went to prison, act like they was this, act like they were dead, come back, let them in the church, they tattered church or mess with all the women, stealing them money.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, man, that ain't gonna do with me.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So rejection is my number one element that makes me turn from anybody.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because my entire life, the trigger rejection, being rejected all my life, didn't know how to deal with it.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel rejection from him.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, God,
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you want me to do.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, my best friend at the time, playing for the Texans, flies me to Houston.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm motivated now.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: He, they introduced me to Rick Smith, and before I know it, man, two months later, I'm standing before the Texans, given a motivational message, telling them to push before they played the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, after that's over where they put the story on the front page of the paper.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, people starting to call me the nonprofit organizations.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: They call me all around the world.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm in the motivational speaking and don't even know where motivational speaking is.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling the story.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I meet a man in Dallas as I'm doing a motivational speaking seminar.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on what I'm on.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Walks up to me and say, man, God, I tell me to fund your ministry.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, God ain't told you to fund my ministry.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm mad at the church.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's he talking about?
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, these people out here, everything I see in the Book of Acts, I don't see this in the church.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they got going on in the church.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he like, man, you're a pastor.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, I'm not.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, God told me to fund your ministry.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God ain't told you to fund my ministry.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: He say, what you doing is I say this motivation is being, he's like, bro, you preaching.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You compelling people is conviction in everybody in here, man.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are past them, man.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, I'm not.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, he say, he say, well, I want you to work for me.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, okay, I want to give you a job.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what type of job?
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a suitable sales, I say, bro, did you just hear my story?
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't say y'all gonna run my name.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I give you my resume, y'all gonna run my name.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And y'all gonna tell me, it's no win the world we can have you.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said I can't do that.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said you can do anything I tell you to do.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I own a company.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you want me to do?
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm gonna bring you the floor.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna teach you how to be a pharmaceutical salesman.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I see it, bro, you supposed to be, I suppose to be in your life.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this is.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's supposed to be connected.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He turns me into a pharmaceutical salesman.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, sir.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Real, though.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm selling real, though.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Real for real.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sixty-four people on his team.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are selling now, Leo.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I make it to about number three, or number four.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some like that Obamacare comes in kicks in.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just down I will.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will Prado and Alabama.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so now he called me one day and he said, man, I got some good news and some bad news.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, give me the bad news first.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bad news is don't go on another doctor's office.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: They killed the whole product of DNA in the produce, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got to shut the company down.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the good news is I'm about to start another company and I'm taking you with me and I'm going to give you a hundred thousand dollars a year plus commission if you just go with me.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what we go?
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm out of prison two or three years.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, we're going to Houston.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, I ain't going now.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He like what you mean.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, man, I almost got killed in Houston.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: My past and Houston.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't going nowhere near my past.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, man, you got twenty four hours to make a decision.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get you a hundred thousand out of plus commission.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, you need to come.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: My grandmother, my father's mom is dying at the point.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I dry home.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: said at the age of my grandma be, and all I want is grandma to do was tell me, don't go.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't go.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, come on.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I lost much here.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we can have another job.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And man want me to go to Houston.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: She looked at me, she said, boy, I'm going to tell you what I've been telling you all your life.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You ain't got a mom, you ain't got a daddy.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't make a life for yourself.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You ain't going to be able to make one.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got too much of God in you.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not to go.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he will go.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I trying to bring you to.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cry, go home.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pack everything up in the truck I had.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a de Houston.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's down.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's down.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Two thousand four team, man.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get the Houston in two thousand four team.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Eight months later, same thing happened.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they set the company down.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I can't go back to Alabama.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't do that.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I heard guys say, do you trust me?
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you trust you?
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, I trust you.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, follow my lead.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I met my wife then.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I told her about the Holy Spirit.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Six months later, we did a Bible study.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And before I knew it, man, I'm leaving a whole lot out.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Before I knew it, we started the church and I didn't even know what church planned was.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: never heard a church plan period.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: All I knew is I can teach you this word.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you listen to it and do it, if it change me, I know what it changed you.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, ten years later, man.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: The wild.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ten years later, man.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Learn, whole life.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Went through a whole life.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we hear, man.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's all because of the glory of God, bro.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have been a fan for years.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first time, I think I just came doing, I was like, well, you know, you know, I'm naturally encouraging her.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like, it was the neighborhood, it's like I could understand, because I didn't come from a quote unquote church.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I came from a neighborhood.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, man, you know, it's twenty nine thousand times like, man, it had John a little high, you know, but at that time, we like, twenty seven three.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like, even now, not that I'm doing any of that.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still be like, I still be like,
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now put your band down.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then when jeezy carried my life was like, what?
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, impossible.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what you're getting there for, you know, like, and so coming from there and having to go into this culture was almost like.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, what do I want me to do now?
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was just unique.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then I said, you, I'm like, oh, no, it's something to him.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I say that, I didn't know the backstory of it all.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You said, like, after getting to Houston and then you end up meeting the woman that your wife who now is sharing platform with you all.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love to see y'all both doing your thing.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you said you talked about Holy Spirit.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: What was that encounter and what was it about her because I mean you just not getting that you had just got out of jail.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you was running the front of the few players.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad you said that.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The play I ran before the end was I got out.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm moving around motivational speaking and right before I meet the guy with their pharmaceutical sales.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bump into a young lady, and I mess around, and man, I'm really trying to live it.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I mess around and have sex with her.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it convict me so bad, I'm married.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got married before?
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: This Negro hits up and said, I do.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, not my guy.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hit something when crazy.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, what?
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never forget it, man.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: really, really leave it in, you know, and in my mind, I gotta cover this up.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I never forget, man, I took a tour.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I took her three counties down to the courthouse, got married, and come back.
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then she and the hot she's, we got married.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went to Huntsville's for something.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I come back when I come back, she's sitting in the closet.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, what in the world are going on with this?
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said you love me and you hate it, it's been a day with me.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, man, I was going up there, man, to get this engaged, and make this money blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to put a grace.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: What a mercy.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: What a grace.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: What a mercy.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And three months later, it was just straight up.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Two months later, Gish.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I'm about to lose my mind.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: toxicity coming in and it's running my peace and if I ain't learned nothing else since I've been walking with God the most valuable lesson I learned is that I know when the peace of God come and I know when the peace of God goes when my peace left I say God what we gonna do and I walked inside of a beauty shop one night and we got into it and she called me a be in front of all these women
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she stood up and put a finger in my face and said, what you're gonna do now?
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And all I saw was that bat gate of my parole.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: My parole also taking me through that bat gate, man.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I heard a voice they leave.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I knew it was God.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: We could go so many different places right now, but I'm gonna stay on track, right?
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause not the new way out of shadow of a down.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Follow Holy Spirit.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even let them do icebreakers.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said don't worry about that.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Show me.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in seeing.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew I was in seeing one hundred percent before I said I do.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to clean up what I'd messed up.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to cover up.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And God like my home, not with you, with you, no better.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Throw your hands on the cross and surrender.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm sorry, leave.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I got my clothes.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Love out.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Couple weeks later, I meet the farmers who do good guy.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to use them.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get to use them, man.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is what I knew.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want another high girl.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want another, I don't want, she depends.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want, I promise I'm not gonna do it.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want, no, no, no, I don't want nothing that resemble.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't do anything high.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, man, I met my wife on a dating site.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, he was saying about six months.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I meet her.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I meet her.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is what got me.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: For the first time in my life, he would know woman that can make me close, my mouth.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: In conversation, in fluent, like she's wanted to me, she, you know, on another level than I am, in no area.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: For the first time in my life, when she started talking, I knew this is trying to be quiet.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, okay, I got a gallon and I'm a gallon.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Usually, I've been a gallon trying to pour in the cups.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got me?
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I got a gallon.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when you got a gallon, yeah, her advice is real strong.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, her direction is real strong.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know yourself to such a profound degree that you will not water her down or suffocate her and let her make you strong in all the areas you we.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bro.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: She ain't nothing like my past.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this ain't nothing but God.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll be the biggest fool in the world to ignore.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: God didn't connect to me to my good thing.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could find it, but why he find it for good thing.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And up to favor.
• 36:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Up to favor.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: My favorite is when God put his spirit on you to attract resources to you.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let pass it there.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He put his favor on you to attract resources to you, right?
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: My wife and vice president of a bank, former dope boy.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm a former dope boy.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come from pharmaceutical.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Put favor on me to attract.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am nothing like, you know, it's an opposite of tracks.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: She from she from Bloomington Hills, bro.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: We from hood.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: If the spirit of God ain't on me, how in the world kid?
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: the resources, who she is, anything else.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: When our union gets, when we come together as one, man, it's been a love of, this is Jay's call that an inflection point.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you start up, it's an up that never goes down.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is simply because he put favor on you to attract resources to you.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even want to ask what a bad day looked like because it seemed like it just got right.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long did it take you to marry her after you found her on the dating side?
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did the first day look like?
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because online dating is now possibly, I think the second most used catalyst to find your love.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long did it take you to everything?
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we was a poly about, I hope I don't get this wrong.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's about twenty months.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, eighteen, nineteen months, twenty-one, two years?
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost too, I'm almost too.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm sorry, baby.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, listen, see right here.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Use that you guys, cause you will, I never show up.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: What was that?
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it should be like, see, be good for sure.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me or without a shot of a doubt, she write down it.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she'd be right there.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, yeah, it's one about twenty months, some like that, I think it would.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I knew for a fact that, especially because when we get together, everything just started moving fast.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, man, God, I'm scared.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I just made a mistake.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know the truth.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long was it before since you left and then got it?
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get left hurt to meet her.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that was just a no, probably.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a no, that was never.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no, that was a no
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well listen, let's do a high level because we got the man here.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me what healing looks like for a man who's been in a relationship and then it's looking to move forward in a relationship.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are some of the things that he may have to do?
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the first thing you gotta do is identify and acknowledge your choice in the matter.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I will say as if you confess your sins, he's faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, cleans.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the healing point right there.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the first thing I had to do was acknowledge the fact, I made the choice and the choice was the wrong choice.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it because I'm trying to sneak in make the choice.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I made the choice and I'm trying to change God.
• 39:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got me.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: God knows change.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We do.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so therefore when I made
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: The acknowledgment that I'm wrong, and man, I'm trying to put this damn trying to put my life back together again.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Watch this.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: In order to live the Lord revealed this to me, in order to be healed, you gotta be holy.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: because the healing happens in the heart, right?
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it eases over to the soul, but it first begins in the heart.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when you start talking about holiness, why is this?
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Holiness is not just you cutting away from sin.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Holiness is also you getting connected to God.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of us get away from the toxicity or mistakes that we may, but we don't go all the way in the God.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that means we have way, we can't get what we exactly what we need so that the true holiness of the Spirit of God can begin to put back what is being crushed on the inside.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And making any sense.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So right off the top, I had to not only acknowledge and cut away, but I had to throw all of myself.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to get back on the rhythm of the Holy Spirit because when I separated, that's when something came in and gave me another option.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm making sense.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when I made the connection and got back, and I got on the rhythm of intentional non-stop growth, then the Holy Spirit started pulling new vision here.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He started pulling new strength in it.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He started getting me ready, and I knew without a shadow but doubt, okay.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I know what I don't want.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know that I'm here when I know what I want, and I know what I don't want.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm making any sense.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most of us will say we heal, but we'll go right back and choose the same person with a different face.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it simply because we say we heal, but we don't even know what we don't want.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: We say we know what we want, but the whole kick is, do you know what you don't want?
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because if you don't know what you don't want, you definitely can't choose what you want.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew without a shadow of a doubt.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew without a shadow of that.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want another hug.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm done.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so acknowledgment, vision, in a strength.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You beginning to encourage yourself.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think those three, and then you know when you change, because when you start changing, you know what you don't want.
• 42:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about you know exactly what you don't want.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in truth, if you just heard an insubscribe, please, this past the James, and I know when my team seen it on all these other names and all that, it was probably like, okay, so he asked us guy, Pastor James, I'm just like, yeah, I don't know what I know.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been watching him for years.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I got to ask you this past day.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So here goes the thing.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You now say I do.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is us.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder how a whole lot of spiritual children I guess you would say.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, God knows real.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I said down with a pastor Hannah out of Chicago.
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And his wife and they and this and may not, you know, definitely not just where I believe and declare that God was going to do with that.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: What you do.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: and his wife sat down and she talked a little bit about, you know, the desire having to have a ministry and she worked in children's ministry.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the chimes, like all these parents who don't have the resources, something big none of the kid, like what's up with?
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, he just told a guy said that we would have more and he didn't see this huge ministry.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then now she says, he said, God told him that we would have different kids, this is this and this.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she points at this five thousand seeder.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she said,
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we got way more children than we thought we would ever have.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was something in my, I'm sitting in the theater.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was the shot goes through my body.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: See a woman.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who would be like, but I see what God is doing.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Having your past be what it was and then having this strong conviction.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: My thing when I started ministry, like,
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: anybody who had fair time, it was like, God was sitting on the beef.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, big red side of the red, you're ready, you may have gone on.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Behold, he's my security guard.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause you know, you're in a neighborhood, if you give everybody an opportunity for a pro with our good.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember how difficult it was for even his wife.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: to almost believe in what he was doing.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's now, you know, of course he got divorced and he's with a beautiful woman who underscores his mission and has children.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: How difficult was it?
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it for her to follow the leadership when she comes from this high statute place?
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: From a man who comes from the neighborhood, it's like, how do you convince or allow her to lock in with the vision that she can water and value to without squandering?
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she would say that I gave her something to pursue.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: which is vision.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bible says whether there is no vision of people perish.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so she would say literally that when she saw I was submitted to God and I had something that I saw, it made her want to submit.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like women really want to submit to a man who submitted to God.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: They want to submit to a man who's a builder.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so therefore, I believe, and because it's in her nature also, her mom really told her how to value the voice of a man.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Her mom really told her how to value and developing be a wife.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so therefore, my wife takes pride in it from day one.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: like when we made, when she knew I was the one, she took pride in knowing her role as a woman.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a wife.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got me.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so we've never had no, let me, let me say this.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me clear this all.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anytime you got too big thinkers, you're going to have friction.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in Moss, she's in on earth.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We conquer both.
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so therefore when I'm a big think and she's a big thinker, you got to know it out of the shot of a doubt that you're not always going to agree.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not always going to be on the same rhythm of everything.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so for us, our marriage is set up like this.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whoever is the strongest in what area in a specific area, that's who leads.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, though, I make the last decision.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if she's stronger here, if she's stronger in the finances, then I am.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: She run a billion dollar portfolio at the bank.
• 46:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And why would I even talk about
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have we can we buy this or now cool.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's all good.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: She I won it, but she said I can do it today.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever she say how to flow to money go.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's stronger here.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm I'm the week of vessel right here in this area.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Spirituality.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can hear God.
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not both in the bragging.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's all right.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she here him too.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: At the same time, he didn't gonna be no confusion with this.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I say in his area, this is what it is.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So therefore, we're thoroughly convinced and fully persuaded in relationships and marriages.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: The object is, is to find out who's the strongest in whatever area y'all dealing with.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whoever's the strongest, what's going to happen is, if I'm the weakest, and she's the strongest, and I don't let her be who she is, I'm gonna pull her down.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if I allow her to be who she is, she's going to teach me how to walk up these steps.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It don't make me no less of a man because she teaches me how to get up to where she is.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm confident in my identity as a man that watch this.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I let because of her wisdom or revelation hurt her mind.
• 47:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I honor that I respect that.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to pick.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why would I pick a woman that I don't respect the wisdom?
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And me and sense, why would I pick a woman that I know without a shot of a doubt that she's smarter than me in this area, but I won't let her make the decision.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I let her make a decision and I think about it for what's saying I'm okay.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is what it is.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You see what I'm saying?
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because we are teen, baby.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're a team.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're trying to win the game.
• 47:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if you get MVP this year.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I had?
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Long this weekend, you're a field doing what you do like in you the person.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you don't you don't want to make it happen.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you are the one that got the wisdom to understand and the knowledge in this area.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I'm passing you that ball.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I know I got to land a parent pretty soon.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talked to you all day because I'm sitting here like.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: even kind, taking pictures all over there.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: My young guys are not a young married people in the in the room.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to ask you this.
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get a chance to counsel, speak life in the so many people.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is one of the most consistent issues that you're seeing relationship that could probably be easily resolved if a person could just blank.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think one of the most consistent things that I see is people choosing.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: based off their type, they won't this type of person.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got their type locked into their heart and they choose what they want and they don't choose what God want.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, um, man, really, if part of people
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: could just learn, because I know people make a statement, I like what I like.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like what I like.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But not understanding that what you like in this season, you're about to become somebody new in the next season and your appetite can change.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if if growth is your portion, what you like right now, you might not like in next month.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: what you like right now, you might not like it next year.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some may happen to you in life that's gonna cause you to mature up.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when you mature up, you're appetite going mature.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You see what I'm saying?
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think if people was open to growth, if people was open to like, if people was open to teen, if people was open to, and especially me, and if we would just open to allowing somebody to tell us man,
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: that ain't right and respect it.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Being wrong, like just, man, I'm wrong.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You right, girl.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it brothers could do that.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think man, we could win the game.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: We could pick the right teammate.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go deep into the playoffs and win the championship.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, Jay, I'm gonna be honest with you, man, when I see you coming in, I don't wanna scare you, but not that I get a deeper dive into who you are, I don't know the scare you.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But man, it's time.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything that you've dreamed of thus far is finally called up with the timing.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, everything that God shown you, I see, I keep hearing the word multiplication.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I keep hearing with you multiplication.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's campuses.
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's people.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's finance for multiplication.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every time you talk, I just keep hearing multiplication.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that you have kind of chiseled it up for the sake of sake.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what God is doing with this new health regimen.
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You won't have to run around the country like most people.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's been prophesied.
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna preach all around the world.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: The world gonna come to you.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stay faithful where you are.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be very, be very choosey of your yes.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fall in love with your know more than you fall in love with your youth and God is going to bring everything to your doorstep.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: There will be a breeze between you and Joel all stay.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That the world may not necessarily understand.
• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's really going to enjoy the conviction that the lower place on you during that dark time.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would even reach out and let them know that part.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I keep my need a little encouraged from my community.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, I appreciate the fact that when it comes to children and you know, all of that prayer and petition, I appreciate your heart posture to whatever God would have.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I just love the fact that you're open to it, that minister to more people than you know.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why, wow, shout over down.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: That means to do more people than you know.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so grateful.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've ever done this.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even know.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just ask, Holy Spirit, is it okay?
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, don't be a favorite.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: To cry.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to give my audience an opportunity to so.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to you.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not for your financial gang.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got to show me that it is all stable life.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's people on the other side of the camera who understand the power of so and everything.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to start off with an amount that I'm going to zeal.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I want you guys to pour into him.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you will give me on Patreon, whatever you will give to all of these commercials that you probably saw.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to put his cash apple whatever this thing is.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I want you to pour into, wow, um, pastor during this time.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this, see, I'm going to tell you, I call this the, you can stay at home, see my God.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I want you to know that this is a tangible example of what God is going to do with your international ministry.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want you guys to invest in the best cameras.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That you can fire.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even if it break the bank, I want you to invest in the best cameras, the best set, the best lighting, the best people who do everything that has to do with media, and you will never have to leave home unless you want to.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: My God, my God.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it, the Lord.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I'm man, thank you, man.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like,
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You on the rhythm of the spirit.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, we raised in two point five right now for our own building.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Two point five and twenty twenty five.
• 54:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he knows necessarily got us someone to me.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so into transforming.
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: What if what do you have?
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 54:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you put it with it.
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, man.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just did this, it's coming to you.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything that you want is going to come to you.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's partnership.
• 54:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to have to change your voice, man.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be black white.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: All that stuff.
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And man, just make sure I get a chance to see what God is doing.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just want you to start like, listen, whatever big, small whatever it is, I didn't know.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I promised we ain't do no screw.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, I, I attract the neighborhood.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: They be like, the mix was talking about time.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they waited to the good point.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is just a prompting of the Holy Spirit to those of you who don't understand what that is.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a rhythm.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a flow scientifically.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a vibration that got to put you on and then you just kind of flow into what God is doing in somebody else's life.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just want you to be a part of it.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: We understand the anointed that we respect is also the anointed.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that God will bestow up on your life.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I want you to sow into him.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to plan to see he's going to give me should call on whatever link or whatever.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it in the YouTube.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just want to say thank you, man.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: you doing bro.
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you man.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if anything, if it's anything, I can do it any different time for you in any type of way.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I want to phone call the way.
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, indeed.
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure you said that.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that you would bless by this episode.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the word of God is already going for it.
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the only part that I would add to anything that the Holy Spirit did is that it's not where you start.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's how you finish.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make sure that you love yourself more.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Subscribe to this channel.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love you more, love you more, love you more