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242: The Movie Geek Art Show! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody i'm tony todd you're listening to movie meltdown
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: Provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 6: So, uh, you an artist or something?
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  Speaker 7: Uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You do paintings or.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, paintings.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, great. What do you paint, mostly? I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: just people and fruit and shit.
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  Speaker 9: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian
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  Speaker 9: and with me is Fred. Hi, I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 10: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 10: from just outside the Movie Geek Art Show here on
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  Speaker 10: Frankfurt Avenue at the wonderful Hilltop Tavern.
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  Speaker 9: And joining us is special guest Lindy Liu.
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  Speaker 8: Howdy.
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  Speaker 10: Who, if you're a keen listener, you'll remember from last
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  Speaker 10: year because you were on the zombie episode.
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  Speaker 8: I was.
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  Speaker 9: You know nothing about zombies, I'm sure though.
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  Speaker 11: Not a bit.
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  Speaker 8: Not a thing.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 9: You didn't shut down the city yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: I did not. I didn't raise the dead.
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  Speaker 9: You were not responsible for tying up traffic at all.
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  Speaker 12: Anyway.
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  Speaker 10: So you are also a featured artist here amongst the
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  Speaker 10: group show. So where did you get your inspiration for
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  Speaker 10: your cats? She has done a series of. Horrific cats
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  Speaker 10: that are pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 9: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: They're all cute and blood splattered. They're nice cats.
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  Speaker 9: Guess what's the running series title?
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  Speaker 8: It's Cat House of Whores, which is a take, obviously,
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  Speaker 8: on the Treehouse of Whores.
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  Speaker 9: The cat house I went to is not like this
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  Speaker 9: at all.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I found out later that it's a euphemism for
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  Speaker 8: a whorehouse.
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  Speaker 9: I thought maybe you knew that.
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  Speaker 13: Nope.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not real sheltered.
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  Speaker 12: I'm not sure how that one got past me.
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  Speaker 9: You seem like you would know your way around the
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  Speaker 9: cat house.
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  Speaker 8: You would think.
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  Speaker 9: I guess not.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Not a bit.
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  Speaker 10: But you've done four different characters, so I guess give
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  Speaker 10: people the rundown.
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  Speaker 8: I did Leatherface, and he's in his, like, little outfit
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  Speaker 8: with his little blue tie. And he has a mask on.
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  Speaker 8: It sort of looks like a baby face instead because
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  Speaker 8: a real person's face wouldn't.
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  Speaker 9: Fit on a cat. That'd be ridiculous. So you've killed
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  Speaker 9: a baby is what you're saying? He killed a baby.
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  Speaker 8: That would be silly.
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  Speaker 12: You wouldn't do that. No, no.
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  Speaker 8: A cat wouldn't be able to fit in a person's face.
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  Speaker 12: That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 8: That's ridiculous. And then there's one of Jason Voorhees. There
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  Speaker 8: is Hannibal in the mask and all wrapped up. And
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  Speaker 8: then there's Freddy Krueger Kitty, which I think is the
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  Speaker 8: most appropriate kitty.
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  Speaker 9: I think so.
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  Speaker 10: I do like, as I got into it, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 10: it's a cute kitty and it's horribly burned.
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  Speaker 8: And it's horribly burned.
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  Speaker 9: I thought it was fun.
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  Speaker 8: When I was wood-burning it, I do all wood-burning and watercolor.
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  Speaker 8: When I was wood-burning it, I was like, Freddy's burnt.
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  Speaker 8: That's redundant. I thought that.
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  Speaker 14: Was John Kales from the Velvet Underground, but that's Jason.
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  Speaker 15: Because he used to wear that on stage.
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  Speaker 8: Before the movie came out. So I did a bunch
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  Speaker 8: of movie slashers and then did some junk. I like that.
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  Speaker 10: That shows range. Odd pop art. We're just going to
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  Speaker 10: throw something in random. You know who this guy is, though.
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  Speaker 9: You get it. It's my theme, man.
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  Speaker 6: Hopes were dashed.
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  Speaker 9: In general?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In life?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: Well, we're here having a good time and looking at art,
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  Speaker 15: and I.
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  Speaker 14: I invent a genre of short film, and then Brian
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  Speaker 14: tells me, oh, I guess you're not familiar with that.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, you haven't heard of it.
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  Speaker 10: I have to be that jackass that's like, oh, by
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  Speaker 10: the way, you're five years too late. I certainly don't
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  Speaker 10: contest the jackass part.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you. Lindy has had enough of our nonsense, and
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  Speaker 9: she ran away.
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  Speaker 15: She's off to paint another cat.
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  Speaker 9: I think so.
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  Speaker 14: Inspiration strikes.
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  Speaker 9: Inspiration point.
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  Speaker 15: You've got to paint a cat in a mask.
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  Speaker 9: Horribly burned cat. Disfigured, if you will.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: Do we need to mention the red hair at this event?
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  Speaker 9: Do you need to mention that?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, well, you can mention the red hair, but then
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  Speaker 10: you also got sidetracked from your dashed hopes.
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  Speaker 2: We.
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  Speaker 9: We got distracted when Lindy ran away.
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  Speaker 14: I just invented the genre of disappointment porn. It's just
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  Speaker 14: it doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 15: Guy comes to fix the cable.
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  Speaker 6: There's some flirting, but then he fixes the cable.
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  Speaker 9: That's not log jamming if ever I heard it.
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  Speaker 10: So then immediately I went, well, that's dangerously close to
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  Speaker 10: PG porn.
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  Speaker 9: Have you not seen PG porn?
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  Speaker 11: No, I haven't seen PG porn.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 15: That is not a variety of porn I'm familiar with.
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  Speaker 10: And then I was locked up trying to think of
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  Speaker 10: the genius James Gunn who came up with PG porn.
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  Speaker 9: And James Gunn is pretty damn talented, I have to say.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's one of those that hasn't really disappointed, actually, surprisingly. Like,
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  Speaker 10: he's done a lot of weird offbeat things, and yet
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  Speaker 10: somehow he's made all of them kind of work.
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  Speaker 14: It's hard to take risks and not disappoint anybody.
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  Speaker 10: He's an entertaining guy, too. What I've seen of him
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  Speaker 10: on the internet, he doesn't seem like a total douchebag. So,
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  Speaker 10: you know, you got to like that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: So, okay, do you want to go into the red hair, then?
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  Speaker 15: I'm just saying, we're watching people walk by covered with
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  Speaker 15: red hair. There are mohawks and other red hair things.
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  Speaker 15: I was telling somebody earlier that, well, yeah, it's Red
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  Speaker 15: Hair Day and looking at them like they were crazy,
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  Speaker 15: but I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, if I have to guess, this little trolley hop
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  Speaker 10: that we're part of is sponsored by a certain liquor
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  Speaker 10: company who is known for its cap that is made
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  Speaker 10: of red wax. so if I have to stretch my
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  Speaker 10: theory here I'm thinking it's tied to them somehow I.
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  Speaker 15: Was thinking it was just to create a diversion.
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  Speaker 10: It might be nothing throws people off like a red
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  Speaker 10: herring yeah that had to happen thanks to you and
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  Speaker 10: now I'm the jackass sure yeah Oh, well, we're checking
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  Speaker 10: in on the fun activities here. But we do have
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  Speaker 10: somewhere that we're going. We're going to wander away from
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  Speaker 10: this event and sit down somewhere slightly more quiet and have.
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  Speaker 9: An in-depth artistic discussion. And you're going to be there.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll be there.
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  Speaker 9: And we're going to invite a few of the other artists.
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  Speaker 15: Are we going back in time or forward in time?
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  Speaker 9: We're just going down the street.
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  Speaker 16: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 9: We're going sideways in time.
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  Speaker 10: Sideways in time. and we're going to go sit down
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  Speaker 10: somewhere else and have a nice discussion. And I'm guessing
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  Speaker 10: it might be a lengthy discussion, so we might have
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  Speaker 10: to break it up a little bit because we get
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  Speaker 10: carried away, as you well know. So I think this
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  Speaker 10: might have to be a come back next week kind
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  Speaker 10: of a thing, I would guess anyway.
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  Speaker 15: Oh, there's my waitress skulking around.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 9: You better go claim your stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: So we'll use that as our excuse to take our
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  Speaker 10: break here, and then we'll go wander off, and we'll
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  Speaker 10: come back.
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  Speaker 9: I'll be there. You'll be there.
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  Speaker 10: And we'll bring in a few of those other artists,
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  Speaker 10: and we'll have an in-depth discussion on this week's and
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  Speaker 10: possibly next week's movie. We're going to spill over and
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  Speaker 10: do a lot of art-related talk these next couple episodes.
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  Speaker 10: So let's take a break here, and we will kick
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  Speaker 10: it off.
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  Speaker 17: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶.
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  Speaker 7: Telling stories yesterday Sing a song Sing a song A
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  Speaker 7: ticket to Mexico Recruiting a train Turns out they got
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  Speaker 7: two tickets Sing a song Sing a song.
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  Speaker 17: So I'm on my knees, you are my friends You
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  Speaker 7: Drama.
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  Speaker 3: Comedy, adventure, excitement, something for everyone. Here's a brief glimpse
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  Speaker 3: of some of the truly fine pictures we've scheduled in
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  Speaker 3: the near future. The artist.
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  Speaker 7: The poet.
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  Speaker 2: The figure model who loves to show it.
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  Speaker 14: You suppose he could be physically attracted to her?
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  Speaker 2: No, man, he ain't the type. He don't get enough
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  Speaker 2: vitamin to eat. All these are beat. All these you'll
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  Speaker 2: Where the hilarious enjoy the horrifying. In a bucket of blood.
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  Speaker 18: No, you're gonna shoot me, don't shoot!
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  Speaker 3: Come to the land of living dreams, where realists dream
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  Speaker 3: of the unreal.
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  Speaker 19: Walter, you've done something to me. Something deep down inside
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  Speaker 19: of my prana.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Walter, I wanna be with you. You're creative. Beatniks
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  Speaker 2: at their bawdiest.
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  Speaker 6: The creative urge at its most primitive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm deeply moved. And I shall compose a poem.
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  Speaker 2: It's the weirdest and the wildest. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: make statues anymore.
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  Speaker 20: I think as a child, you're always drawing, coloring, and
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  Speaker 20: doing crafts, and that is totally normal and seems to
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  Speaker 20: be what you do as a kid. And I think
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  Speaker 20: kind of the weird tragedy is that when you become
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  Speaker 20: an adult, you grow up and lose that. You stop creating.
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  Speaker 20: You stop just involving yourself in the joy of coloring
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  Speaker 20: and creation and stuff. I just feel like I was
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  Speaker 20: lucky enough to never really lose that.
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  Speaker 13: The crossover between skateboarding, graffiti, surfing, maybe like punk, they
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  Speaker 13: always were do-it-yourself people.
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  Speaker 4: When you come from a culture that's made by kids
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  Speaker 4: for kids, you had to do it yourself because there
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  Speaker 4: was nobody else doing it.
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  Speaker 20: Other people, they figure out their ways to do it,
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  Speaker 20: but I have to do this.
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  Speaker 6: I have to paint this.
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  Speaker 10: Just for myself.
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  Speaker 6: It's communication, like the simplest form. It doesn't have any
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  Speaker 6: of the gross trappings of the art world or anything.
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  Speaker 6: It's like a kid's tag is a kid's tag. It's skateboarding, man.
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  Speaker 10: That's where all of this came from.
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  Speaker 21: It's attracted a lot of, like, heroin addicts and creative people,
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  Speaker 21: and a lot of creative heroin addicts.
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  Speaker 14: I have the right to be exactly who I am, unadulterated,
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  Speaker 14: and bring it to you raw, uncut.
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  Speaker 10: And I think, like, nerds are, like, the dispossessed do
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  Speaker 10: sort of inherit the creative.
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  Speaker 22: To go from being just a regular freak to being
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  Speaker 22: a cool freak kind of, it's really nice.
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  Speaker 20: You can't tag me as a one thing or another.
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  Speaker 20: You can't tag almost anybody as just.
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  Speaker 23: A painter, as just a photographer.
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  Speaker 10: We're just artists.
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  Speaker 17: You want to see something, you make it.
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  Speaker 21: I mean, first and foremost for yourself and your friends,
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  Speaker 21: I guess.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, you made the game. Like, this is the game.
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  Speaker 19: Are you going to decide, like, you're playing the game
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  Speaker 19: or not playing the game?
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  Speaker 7: You know, freedom of the press is guaranteed to those
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  Speaker 7: who own one.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know how an art gallery ran, you know,
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  Speaker 4: or what. I didn't even really know that it sold art.
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  Speaker 6: And we were pretty stupid and great.
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  Speaker 11: You know, awesomely dumb.
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  Speaker 6: That's kind of a whirlpool of inspiration.
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  Speaker 10: It's like all of such nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I like this.
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  Speaker 9: This is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 10: All right, welcome back to Moving Out Down Sofa Theaters. Now,
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  Speaker 10: we've wandered away from the art show, and we're here
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  Speaker 10: to do the breakdown on the movie now. So, because
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  Speaker 10: we've changed locations, we've, you know, minorly adjusted the people
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  Speaker 10: on hand. So, we'll go ahead and introduce or reintroduce
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  Speaker 10: people as we go here. Some of them you may
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  Speaker 10: have heard before. You know that Fred guy?
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  Speaker 14: Hi, I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 10: He's here. Heya, Fred.
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  Speaker 19: I was Sparty Rubble. I'm so happy I got to
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  Speaker 19: do that today.
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  Speaker 10: Bo, you may remember him.
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  Speaker 6: Hello.
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  Speaker 10: And if you were here a few weeks back when
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  Speaker 10: we were talking about rewatching movies, you might remember Jen.
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  Speaker 17: Hello.
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  Speaker 10: And then to bring in people who haven't been here
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  Speaker 10: for a whole episode, we'll introduce the new characters here.
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  Speaker 10: We have Yoko.
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  Speaker 16: Hi.
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  Speaker 10: And Rachel.
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  Speaker 24: Hi.
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  Speaker 7: Hi.
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  Speaker 10: And just about everybody here now is actually involved in
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  Speaker 10: art or has been involved in art. And, Beau, you
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  Speaker 10: told me you don't claim it.
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  Speaker 23: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think that's true. Because you were telling me
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  Speaker 10: about weird paintings that you did in high school. So
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  Speaker 10: I don't think you want to claim those anymore.
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  Speaker 6: I think I've seen weird paintings that you did in
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  Speaker 6: high school.
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  Speaker 10: I think so. I think you hung one in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't you have that thing in your bathroom?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Anybody who's been to my house, it's like the bathroom
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  Speaker 6: is the weird.
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  Speaker 6: Anything weird that I drew.
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  Speaker 25: When I was like 14... I just put it up
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  Speaker 25: in the bathroom so I wait staring at you as
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  Speaker 25: you try to go.
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  Speaker 14: And isn't Robert Klein standing in your bathroom or something?
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  Speaker 14: Behind the shower curtain? What was that sound?
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  Speaker 25: No, it's those little Halloween ghost things, the battery-operated ghosts.
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  Speaker 14: He used to always do that in his stand-up.
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  Speaker 6: I assumed he was there.
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  Speaker 10: You can probably get him these days.
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  Speaker 6: Or at least my own Charlie Callis. Why don't he's dead?
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  Speaker 10: That would be really creepy if he was in your show.
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  Speaker 6: I'll take it.
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  Speaker 10: But anyway, everyone else has... I like that.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, everybody else does art. Bo draws weird stuff
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  Speaker 6: and puts it up in his bathroom for guest people.
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  Speaker 10: You're taking it a different way.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone else here is real.
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  Speaker 10: Everybody has a thing. I will put me more in
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  Speaker 10: your camp because it's been a while since I've done
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  Speaker 10: anything short of the Yeti. I am responsible for that
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  Speaker 10: Yeti that went to the Himalayas or wherever you were
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  Speaker 10: wearing that around.
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  Speaker 25: That was at Mount Everest, which was cool because when
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  Speaker 25: I had the shirt and one of the Tibetans I
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  Speaker 25: was with, he got all excited.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, oh, you know the Yeti? I was like, yeah.
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  Speaker 25: And he starts going into all this whole Yeti story
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  Speaker 25: and someone else is with us.
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  Speaker 6: They're like, well, the Yeti's not real. And this guy
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  Speaker 6: was very earnest about how he's like.
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  Speaker 23: No, Yeti is real. Growing up, we had people would
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  Speaker 23: raise yak in our village. And then sometimes we would
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  Speaker 23: wake up and the yak would be gone. And who's
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  Speaker 23: going to take a yak?
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  Speaker 6: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 23: Because if an animal eats a yak, there's dead yak.
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  Speaker 23: If a person takes a yak, they took it somewhere.
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  Speaker 23: But when Yeti takes yak, it's gone. And what else
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  Speaker 23: can carry yak but Yeti? And I was like, He
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  Speaker 23: makes a legitimate point.
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  Speaker 10: This is solid logic here. I can't argue with this guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: Yeti takes a yak.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: You can kiss that yak goodbye.
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: Wait, that's a move in chess, isn't it? Yeti takes
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: the yak?
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Uh-huh.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: I don't play much, obviously.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Then the cheese stands alone.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: So my artwork has been to Mount Everest, so I'm
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: pretty thrilled with that. Other than that, I'll put myself
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: closer to your camp there, Beau. Yeah, I'm sort of
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: hanging around that camp, too.
• 18:44
  Speaker 19: The Yeti camp?
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: Yeti camp.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Yeti camp. The Yeti bathroom camp.
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: Yay, Yeti bathroom.
• 18:49
  Speaker 19: It's good to be in the Yeti camp.
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: All right, so I guess we can at least start
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: the movie segment. And as with most of our segments
• 19:00
  Speaker 10: about the movie, it may very quickly spiral off. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: this one, I think I actually am fine with that
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: because I think with any movie, I think if it's
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: a good movie, I think what it can do is
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: just sort of spark conversation and I think that's sort
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: of what we try to do on the show every
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: week hopefully and I don't know I think in this
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: one you're going to get into such a huge area
• 19:22
  Speaker 10: just dealing with art in general that I'm fine with
• 19:25
  Speaker 10: just going wherever the art discussion takes us so but
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: we'll you know we have tied it to a movie
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: so this week's sofa theater feature is Beautiful Losers the
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: year is 2008 director Aaron Rose and co-directed by our
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: good friend Joshua Leonard who we have had on the
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: show And they plot, according to IMDb, this documentary follows
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: the lives and careers of a collective group of do-it-yourself
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: artists and designers who inadvertently affected the art world. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: spoiler alert? You may ask yourself, can you have a
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: spoiler alert for documentaries and or real life? I think
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: that you can, actually. I think, you know, there's certain
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: things within the context of a film that's probably better
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: to see it beforehand, and even if it existed in
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: the real world, or even if you kind of loosely know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: I think sometimes they structure it differently within the context
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: of the film. So, go watch the movie, you know, beforehand.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You've been warned.
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: With that, where would we like to kick things off
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: on this movie? Do you want to just start with
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: the movie itself and then spiral off like we do?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: It's actually, I think what it does best is sort
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: of take all these different people and string them together
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: in a very interesting and sort of, it just kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: of keeps the flow going, and I'm trying to decide
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: how much of that, because it's sort of directed by
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: two people, and I'm guessing, like, Joshua Leonard was probably
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: brought in way later, because the other, Aaron Rose is
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: one of the artists, and he's the one who sort
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: of founded that little group and created this whole movement.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: And I'm assuming a lot of that is just stuff
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: that he shot years and years ago, just on his own,
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: and then probably had no idea that it was going
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: to be a documentary. So I sat there kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: watching it, I guess, especially going back, like I was
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: rewatching some of it earlier today. And I was like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: I was trying to decide how much of it was,
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: he gave this older stuff to Joshua and was like, okay,
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: now see what you can do to kind of piece
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: all this together. And it kind of feels like there's
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: moments where it is somebody else coming in and sort
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: of weaving this stuff together. And I don't know what
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: was on it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: It wasn't Banksy.
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: It was not Banksy.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: No, they didn't give it to Banksy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: Cause then it would have been about another character that
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: may or may not exist where I think all these
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: artists actually existed.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: And that's almost the thing too.
• 21:45
  Speaker 25: When I was watching this documentary, I felt like there
• 21:48
  Speaker 25: were certain elements of it that I felt like, um,
• 21:52
  Speaker 25: when Banksy or whomever it was.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Who made exit through the gift shop, since that all
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: seems to be up in the air.
• 21:58
  Speaker 25: Um, It seemed like to be the type of documentary
• 22:02
  Speaker 25: or theme that he was almost mocking in a way.
• 22:06
  Speaker 25: Because here it's more about the offbeat artists that are
• 22:09
  Speaker 25: being embraced by pop culture. And when it came to
• 22:13
  Speaker 25: Exit to the Gift Shop, it was more of a
• 22:15
  Speaker 25: scathing commentary on that, I felt. Not necessarily it's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 25: strong antithesis, but you could tell that there were moments
• 22:22
  Speaker 25: within Exit to the Gift Shop where I could see
• 22:24
  Speaker 25: maybe Banksy had seen this prior. And was just, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 25: kind of doing a slight little tongue-in-cheek jab at it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 25: Or just documentaries about the art world in general like that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that I will say it does do. It is like,
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: I think it's pretty good the way that it's put together.
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: And I think it, I think the best thing it
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: does is those little, I mean, he does do some
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: interesting shots. Which, again, I'm trying to decide who. And
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: every once in a while I know it's Joshua because
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: he'll be interviewing the other guy. So, I mean, there's
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: those moments where I think it's shot creatively for a documentary,
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: which not everybody does that. They'll just do very static
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: shots and talking heads. But you'll get, like, the shot
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: where we, like, you're talking to that guy that wears
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: the suit all the time. And he's sitting there and, like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: it just starts focusing on his dog digging a hole
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: in the yard. That was probably one of my favorite
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: points in there was watching his dog dig a hole
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: in the yard. And the fact that he stops and, like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: bothers to put that in there.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Or, like, the.
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: Like later on when he actually like has the guy,
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: the other co-director, I think, sitting in that doorway and
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: he's interviewing him and the guy walks out and like
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: he just leaves it. And again, it's like it felt
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: like he was making a choice there. So I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: there is like some creative stuff that's done and stuff
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: that's done to sort of show that it's, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: it is the real world and it's not. a weird,
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: you know, it's not just meant to be a documentary.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: It makes it kind of informal.
• 23:48
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 25: And, you know, as such, I mean, I feel like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 25: you know, as a viewer, you can connect a little
• 23:52
  Speaker 25: bit more. Because it's more like you're just in on
• 23:54
  Speaker 25: the conversation versus, you know, objectively listening to interviews.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: At least it's how it comes across when they film
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: those in that fashion.
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: I felt closer to the artist just because it was
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: more about their process or them just in mid-process. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: it wasn't just them sitting in the middle of their
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: like cleaned up studio for the moment being like, hey,
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: here I am in front of all my art.
• 24:18
  Speaker 19: So in this way, it was more, it felt more
• 24:20
  Speaker 19: real and.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: In the moment.
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: They did have a lot of footage of them like doing,
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: either working on art or setting up stuff in a gallery.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: So it did seem like there was a lot more that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: and again, I think it's because that guy running it
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: was shooting a lot of that footage as they went.
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: So it did feel a little more grounded in an
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: actual working group of artists anyway.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: I think that kind of stuff was pretty creative. I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: you get the shots where he's at the very beginning
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: there where she's playing the banjo and it kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: comes down the tree. And again, it's a little more
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: creative than a lot of the documentary usual kind of
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: stuff is. So I think that stuff works. I will
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: agree that what it doesn't do, it does still end
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: up being sort of a normal standard documentary. It doesn't ever,
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: and since we already brought up Banksy's movie... that's one
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: of the few that's that, that I think goes above
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: and beyond that and actually does involve the viewer. And it's,
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: it's rare that you get a documentary that does that. There's,
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: there's a few, but I mean, it's, it's, I don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: know if it's just the nature of that one because
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: it's sort of messing with you as you go along
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: as well. And this one is just sort of being
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: earnest and being, you know, straightforward about everything. But, I
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: think that one puts it a little ahead, Exit Through
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: the Gift Shop, because it does actually make you question
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: things a little more. Where this one, if you wanted to,
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: you could just kind of go along for the ride
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: and be like, oh, these artists are all really talented.
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: But I think Exit Through the Gift Shop makes you
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: question things a lot more.
• 25:47
  Speaker 25: If they wanted it to be different, they could just
• 25:49
  Speaker 25: let Harmony Corrine direct.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: It versus just be interviewed. That would have made it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: far more unusual.
• 25:57
  Speaker 16: The part that I keep remembering about that I'm not
• 25:58
  Speaker 16: sure it would anymore well the part I keep remembering
• 26:01
  Speaker 16: is like for some reason I just love those scenes
• 26:04
  Speaker 16: like harmonies at the end like he's just dancing in
• 26:07
  Speaker 16: a rebel flag shirt and like every time I think
• 26:10
  Speaker 16: about this movie it's like this scene that pops in
• 26:13
  Speaker 16: my brain I don't know I felt like looking and
• 26:15
  Speaker 16: watching all the artists do stuff and this happens to
• 26:18
  Speaker 16: me all the time it's like watching pornography for an
• 26:21
  Speaker 16: artist and then you just immediately want to do art
• 26:24
  Speaker 16: You know what I'm insinuating. But it was very enjoyable
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: for me for that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 19: I was like, oh, I want to, you know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 16: Just be completely irresponsible and quit my job and only
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: do this from now on and just somehow magically survive.
• 26:37
  Speaker 19: They don't show you that part, how they do that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, they talk about how, I mean, it
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: is one of those, they're trying to show you those steps,
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: but it doesn't come across real like when they're like,
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: and then they just slept on the floor next to
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: their paintings. Like they work in those little moments of like, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: and by the way, we didn't eat for 14 years
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: before we actually got famous. Those are the parts that
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: we vote. Yeah, it doesn't really show that, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: up close and personal.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: That struggle getting from point A to point B.
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: It keeps it sort of.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Veiled.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like, let's mention it, but yeah, it stays
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: very nice and then cuts to a cool little animation,
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: which again, I really like those. Like, it does keep
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: the movie going. There's a nice momentum to this movie
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: that's just always moving forward to another artist and another like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: you know, cut scene of them talking. But, but again,
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: I think it, it does work on that level, but it's, again,
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: it sort of exists in the happy world where artists
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: make lots and lots of money.
• 27:31
  Speaker 19: Over the rainbow.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: One day.
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: That's how it goes.
• 27:36
  Speaker 19: I think it's a myth. Damn it, we can't believe that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 19: We just can't. I might not wake up tomorrow. You
• 27:42
  Speaker 19: can still believe in the myth, but I still think
• 27:44
  Speaker 19: it's a myth.
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: Because you haven't gotten your Pepsi deal is the problem.
• 27:47
  Speaker 19: I'm saying. That's the problem.
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: I don't want to do that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: See, if you do it and retain your creativity. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: guess that's something I was going to get to eventually. Anyway,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: what do you think? about that like i mean you've
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: got that guy who who feels justified in what he's
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: doing like he's like i you know i took these
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: huge jobs and i'm working for major corporations but i
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: still feel like i'm doing my art the way i
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: want to do it i don't know is is there
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: no way to do that without it depends on who.
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: You are yeah you know if you feel like you
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: can do that and you're doing your thing then who's
• 28:23
  Speaker 14: who's to tell you you're not i don't know uh
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: But I think a lot of people don't feel that way.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: I think all their peers don't feel that way.
• 28:34
  Speaker 19: That's what I'm thinking.
• 28:35
  Speaker 16: I think that's a common thing, and I think it's
• 28:38
  Speaker 16: really hateful and hurtful, is people trying to stand in
• 28:43
  Speaker 16: the way of an artist for selling out.
• 28:45
  Speaker 19: But it's not fair.
• 28:46
  Speaker 16: You wouldn't want to work in a department store your
• 28:48
  Speaker 16: whole life. If Pepsi came to me and was like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 16: will you draw one of your obscene drawings for our advertisement?
• 28:54
  Speaker 19: I would be like, yes. I don't care what it is.
• 28:58
  Speaker 17: Yes.
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: I've said that many times on this show, too. It's like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: I'm like, we're always like, we don't have any money
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: to do this. Like, somebody throw an ad in here.
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, if some major company wanted to throw
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: tons of money at us, I'd be like, hell yes,
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: I'd do it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, if anything, I think it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 25: Also gives you, like, if that becomes the case, a
• 29:16
  Speaker 25: little bit more freedom, too, to an extent. Because if
• 29:18
  Speaker 25: you don't have to worry about You know, how am
• 29:21
  Speaker 25: I going to make ends meet? It's like if you've
• 29:23
  Speaker 25: got that base covered, I would think then you could
• 29:26
  Speaker 25: relax and spend more time just zoning out and doing
• 29:30
  Speaker 25: what you love.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: There's that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: And also, too, sometimes you just need to be given something,
• 29:36
  Speaker 14: kind of like a task to do, and.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Then you perfect.
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: It in that way and that's the part that's yours
• 29:42
  Speaker 14: and that's what a lot of artists have done you
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: know prior to you know well I guess some people
• 29:50
  Speaker 14: say Rembrandt was the first major artist who just did
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: stuff that he wanted to do yeah but Prior to that,
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: everybody was whoring around, doing things for the church.
• 30:03
  Speaker 19: You want a Jesus painting?
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 19: You got a Jesus painting.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 19: You want a Last Supper painting? Got this for you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: And then you do what you're going to do with it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: You tell your story somewhere in there.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I got that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: I mean, is that any different than having someone come
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: to you and go, I want to hire you to
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: do this commissioned work? And if you're painting the Sistine
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: Chapel or if you're painting their grandmother... Is that really
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: any different than having Pepsi come to you and go,
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: I want you to do this, you know, poster for us?
• 30:32
  Speaker 25: It might seem like a tangent, but you recall, like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 25: there was that fresco painting in the small old chapel
• 30:39
  Speaker 25: in Spain, you know, the old woman well-meaning, like, repainted,
• 30:42
  Speaker 25: and it looked absolutely absurd.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was beautiful.
• 30:44
  Speaker 25: There was this, I was reading an article, I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 25: it was an NPR article, where they were talking about how, um,
• 30:51
  Speaker 25: that's become a huge boon for that town because no
• 30:53
  Speaker 25: one had ever heard of that town. No one ever
• 30:55
  Speaker 25: went there. And now it's become like this gag internet sensation.
• 30:58
  Speaker 25: Like everyone has to come and see in person how
• 31:01
  Speaker 25: bad it is. And suddenly it's like this small little
• 31:05
  Speaker 25: chapel has more money than it's ever like dealt with
• 31:08
  Speaker 25: because people are just going in and donating.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: So yeah, because they feel sorry for it. But now this.
• 31:15
  Speaker 25: Woman, like people were, you know, she, would paint a
• 31:18
  Speaker 25: little bit on her own, which I can't imagine how
• 31:20
  Speaker 25: good it was based on what you see. But apparently, like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 25: she's made, like, you know, a decent amount of money.
• 31:27
  Speaker 25: Just people buying, like, whatever she's painted. And that goes
• 31:30
  Speaker 25: back to that weird phenomenon thing that especially Banksy features.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Her focus is on Exit to the Gift Shop to
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: an extent. But I don't know. It's just, you said
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: church painting. That popped into mind right away. Well, yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: that's the thing.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 31:43
  Speaker 14: Naturally, when you're struggling because you want to do what
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: you want to do and you want to get paid
• 31:48
  Speaker 14: so you can do it, naturally you resent people for
• 31:53
  Speaker 14: getting paid for doing terrible work.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: But it's not really up to them.
• 31:58
  Speaker 14: It's just the market is so fluky what people will
• 32:02
  Speaker 14: throw money at and what they won't. I heard today
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: that the best-selling book ever, in Britain is Fifty Shades
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: of Grey.
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: Take that, Bible.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: And the Bible is the most stolen book.
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: That seems like somebody's missing the point. Anyway.
• 32:24
  Speaker 14: No, actually, I have a friend who's a librarian, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: he said that's the way the trend follows. People feel
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: entitled to steal Bibles because they feel.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: They're on a holy mission.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: I'm missing from God.
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: Yeah, and he says, like the other sections that you
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: cannot keep straight are like anything to do with the occult.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Or aliens or something.
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: It's like you straighten that area every goddamn ten minutes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: And then it's all messed up again because people have
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: no manners. They feel like they're.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: On to something.
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: Or it's aliens.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: Or Italian agendas. Yeah, I don't have time to reshell books. Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: at the high school. There's aliens.
• 33:05
  Speaker 25: They've actually got a little section in the back where
• 33:08
  Speaker 25: the librarian keeps the books that frequently get stolen. And
• 33:11
  Speaker 25: it's like, you know, they have the Bibles back there
• 33:14
  Speaker 25: along with Stephen King.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: And, like, any kind of books have anything to do
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: with drugs. Like, those three. Those are the top three
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: right there. Stephen King, drugs, and the Bible.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: That's good. That's interesting. Well, I mean, even.
• 33:30
  Speaker 14: I think the most successful book in the history... That
• 33:34
  Speaker 14: was the BBC when I read it. It said, in
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: the world, in the history. But it's like it's got
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: to be within certain parameters. And it was in the BBC,
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: and it was like since they've been keeping publishing records,
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: which is probably the last 15 minutes.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know when they.
• 33:53
  Speaker 14: I don't know what they're talking... Well, it overshadowed Harry
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: Potter because.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: The.
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: Harry Potter sales were all hard book sales, but these
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: included e-books, because that was.
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: Well, and Harry kept splintering off. If there'd been one book,
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: I guess they would keep buying that, but then there
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: would be a new book, and that takes away from your.
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: But then after that, it's like Shakespeare's first folio was
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: like the most valuable book in the world. And the
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: whole history of that is so... It just shows how
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: weird the market is, because... shakespeare never even bothered to
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: try to he didn't even correct errors in it it
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: was just like.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Nothing to him.
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: Uh which is just mind-boggling to think about but then
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: a few people went around and tried to gather it
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: up and sort through it and it wasn't even really
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: that highly regarded until you know 19th century and then
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: people came to and If it hadn't been for a
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: couple of guys traipsing around town trying to gather up
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: the discarded remnants of paper that put those plays together,
• 35:02
  Speaker 14: it would just be nothing. I don't know what point
• 35:05
  Speaker 14: I'm trying to make.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I just read a really interesting.
• 35:06
  Speaker 25: I was kind of waiting for somewhere to pick up,
• 35:08
  Speaker 25: but I was like, man, it's so many roads I
• 35:11
  Speaker 25: can go down.
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: Well, there's this guy, he wrote a really interesting book
• 35:14
  Speaker 14: about the Shakespeare folk, just the whole weird history of
• 35:19
  Speaker 14: what happened with.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: That, and I read it, so I'm It's on the brain.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: I'm running on about it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: Well, I know we've had that conversation in the past
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: of not even like corporate sellout, just like the weird market.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: Like I've know we've talked about different artists, like even locally,
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: there'll be some artists that will just take off like
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: for no good reason. And there will be a whole
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: little groups of people with loads of money that will
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: just continually buy their stuff and we'll just sort of
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: fuel them for years at a time. And like, sometimes
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: I'll look at it and be like, I don't, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: don't get that at all. Like, I just, I don't
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: feel like it's near as good as this person over
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: here who's sitting on a street corner selling their stuff,
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: you know?
• 35:57
  Speaker 25: I think we talked about how surprised, like, when the
• 35:59
  Speaker 25: Mark Anthony Mulligan, like, that market took off.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: It, like, it just happened overnight, it felt like.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: But, I don't know.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: But Mark Anthony's really good, though.
• 36:09
  Speaker 19: He is. He's good.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: He's so good. I sold one of his paintings to
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Lanford Wilson once.
• 36:15
  Speaker 14: It was a playwright who was in town for Actors Theatre,
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: and he did a, I guess one of his most
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: memorable was Burn This. And there was an old TV
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: show called Hodel Baltimore.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: That was based on one of his things.
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: But I was really excited he came in. They called
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: and said, yeah, do you have any folk art?
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: We've got a guy here, Lanford Wilson. I said, oh,
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: I know him.
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: There's this pause.
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: They're like okay weirdo uh well i.
• 36:47
  Speaker 14: Think they were thinking unemployed actor you know like he's
• 36:51
  Speaker 14: gonna come in i'm gonna be like can you get
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: me a part with malkovich you know but um but
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: it was exciting uh but i think i sold him
• 37:00
  Speaker 14: the university of cheeseburg painting um which with mark anthony
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: you can't figure out does he know he's sort of
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: playing on the University of Hamburg. And you can't tell
• 37:15
  Speaker 14: sometimes how sophisticated he is or isn't.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: And he just has that big grin.
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: He's like, oh, I'm just trying to get attention. But yeah,
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: he's really good. And so I think the attention he
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: got was deserved. But there are other artists.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: There's this.
• 37:38
  Speaker 14: It's not even just the artists. It's the people who
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: buy stuff. There's a guy who's an heir to a
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: condiment fortune who blows into town.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Every now and then, and he buys stuff. Which one
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: do you know? Yeah, it's the Morton Salt. I was
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: going to evade that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: She's the heir to the O'Henry candy bar fortune.
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: It's the same thing, really.
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: He's the Morton Salt guy, and he blows into town.
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: He goes around and he buys stuff, and you'll hear
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: an artist get excited. Because this guy likes their work,
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: and they think, cool. But then he just buys other
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: random crap.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: And they go, oh.
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: Because you feel excited somebody gets your work, but then
• 38:22
  Speaker 14: they like something that you're just, what?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Your mortal enemy.
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: But yeah, the irony of the Morton Salt fortune is
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: that the guy has no taste.
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: I get it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's always sad because I'll hear somebody say,
• 38:39
  Speaker 14: this guy came into town, he really loves my work,
• 38:42
  Speaker 14: and he bought this painting.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 19: He just does that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: That's a shame.
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Here's some other stuff he bought. Just to check
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: you for a minute.
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: He's like a personification of, you know, the weirdness of
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: the market. It just hits on what it hits on sometimes.
• 38:59
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Of course, I mean, it can't be a case of
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: just he likes what he likes.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: I think, no.
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: That's the thing. I'll work from the other end. You're
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: entitled to like whatever the hell you like. I'm curious.
• 39:14
  Speaker 19: What's so bad that he's purchased or that he has?
• 39:17
  Speaker 16: Can you even say that without sounding like a jerk?
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: We do that a lot on this show anyway.
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: How public do I want my jerky nature to become?
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: Is he buying like Fortalee paintings?
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: Um, those are awesome.
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: No, actually, um, the first time I met him was in, uh,
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: Oriental rugs. So I can safely discuss that because I
• 39:44
  Speaker 14: don't personally know any of the people.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Who made them.
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: Um, And he would buy these fabulous Tibetan rugs that
• 39:53
  Speaker 14: are made in Nepal by Tibetan refugees. And they're just
• 39:58
  Speaker 14: so classy and so well done. And then he'd just
• 40:01
  Speaker 14: buy some hideous city rug that's busy and ornate and
• 40:06
  Speaker 14: has these grandmother colors. And in rugs, that's the kiss
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: of death. I'm sure there must be grandmothers who have
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: really good rugs.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: There have to be. I mean, they're all rugs.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Somewhere.
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: But anybody, whatever your grandmother had, that's the rug you
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: don't want. It's just, if somebody says, it looks like
• 40:25
  Speaker 14: something my grandmother would have.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: They don't want that rug. Even, I don't know.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: Some abstract grandma out there.
• 40:32
  Speaker 14: So, yeah, I'm going to be evasive about the stuff
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: he buys that just makes your heart sing.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I'm just curious.
• 40:42
  Speaker 19: I just kind of want to see. It's like a
• 40:44
  Speaker 19: train wreck.
• 40:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: I feel like you could be eclectic.
• 40:50
  Speaker 25: I mean, I hold Cinema Paradiso and Gremlins 2, the
• 40:53
  Speaker 25: new batch, in the same high regard.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: I agree.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: I think it's fine to like stuff from different levels.
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: It's not up to me.
• 41:00
  Speaker 14: The point is that the artists are disappointed because he
• 41:03
  Speaker 14: doesn't really follow.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: He just.
• 41:06
  Speaker 21: What?
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: They're doing, he just gets this one, and then he
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: gets some other random thing.
• 41:11
  Speaker 25: So you're just saying it's like a blanket impulsiveness to
• 41:13
  Speaker 25: where it's like he doesn't know who could take off,
• 41:15
  Speaker 25: so he gets one from everyone, then the odds of
• 41:18
  Speaker 25: him getting one that might become valuable.
• 41:21
  Speaker 14: You know, there is that thing about the Humana guy,
• 41:25
  Speaker 14: Wendell Cherry. He bought a lot of major artists when
• 41:30
  Speaker 14: they were just starting out, and he just.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Bought what he liked.
• 41:34
  Speaker 14: And it turned out that although he was a founder
• 41:37
  Speaker 14: of Humana, most of his money was made.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: By his art collection. Which is crazy.
• 41:44
  Speaker 14: I mean, that's like not a good way to plan
• 41:47
  Speaker 14: to make money. Go around buying art you like. That's
• 41:51
  Speaker 14: not your financial need.
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: Not a sound investment.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: We're not going to advise you. You ought to go
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: around and... Wouldn't it be cool if.
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: We could bribe financial planners to tell that lie?
• 42:02
  Speaker 15: Absolutely.
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: Like if artists were a mafia, that's what we'd be doing.
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: I think we need to work on that, actually. A
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: little more muscle in law.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: You know what you ought to do?
• 42:10
  Speaker 14: You ought to be telling people. A friend of mine
• 42:14
  Speaker 14: who's been trying to sell art in Louisville for years,
• 42:18
  Speaker 14: he came up with this beautiful commercial that he's never done.
• 42:22
  Speaker 14: And it ought to be out there, so I'm going
• 42:24
  Speaker 14: to tell it here. It was like a 50s-style commercial.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Like a man and a woman.
• 42:28
  Speaker 14: Were having a dinner party, and their friends are there.
• 42:31
  Speaker 14: And they're just clearing the plates in the other room,
• 42:33
  Speaker 14: and they hear the other couple talking and saying, Wow,
• 42:37
  Speaker 14: they seem really nice. And dinner was so nice. But
• 42:41
  Speaker 14: do you notice they don't have any original art? And
• 42:45
  Speaker 14: you see them in the pantry going.
• 42:48
  Speaker 19: It's great.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he never did it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 14: He had like four or five really just fabulous commercials,
• 42:56
  Speaker 14: but who has money to do TV?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Art commercials.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Art commercials.
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's not really where we exist at this point.
• 43:02
  Speaker 14: We're better off bribing financial planning people.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: Muscles, why you weren't moved this business. I mean, that
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: seems more normal to me anyway, really. How many people
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: do you know that have just an entire grouping of
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: one artist... I mean, most people I know that even
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: have original art, which, again, is harder to come by
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: these days. But, I mean, it's, you know, just what
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: they like. It's a little of this, a little of that. Or,
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: in my case, it's people I know. So everyone I have,
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: I've got, you know, because I can't afford anything else.
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: So it's like I buy what I can along the way,
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: and that's about it. That's the way artists do it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 10: But for even regular people, I think you just sort
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: of pick up, you know, stuff along the way, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: you get this grouping of stuff that, and my feeling
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: is like that, is sort of a good representation of you.
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: It's like if you had one person stuff and that's it,
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: that seems kind of weird to me. But if you've
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: got this eclectic group of stuff, it's like that's a
• 43:56
  Speaker 10: pretty good representation of what you like as an art,
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: you know, as far as art goes, but maybe just
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: as a person. It probably is a pretty good representation.
• 44:03
  Speaker 25: Yeah, those are just the houses where I walk in,
• 44:05
  Speaker 25: like if I'm a guest and I walk around and
• 44:06
  Speaker 25: I see the walls and they're coated with all this stuff,
• 44:08
  Speaker 25: I'm suddenly like, I'm probably too poor to be in
• 44:11
  Speaker 25: this house.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: I probably shouldn't be in here. I'm wearing a shirt
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: and tie so I can pretend, but.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: We all know better.
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: They'll smell me out. They'll smell me out.
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: Polo references, that's what does it. Every time. Well, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: do want to go into one thing that they mentioned
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: that I thought was interesting, and certainly people have thought
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: this before, but in the documentary they talk about how
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: Art just sort of happens when you're a kid. It's
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: just what you do night and day sometimes.
• 44:43
  Speaker 25: I like how they talk about it. There's no encouragement
• 44:46
  Speaker 25: at the adult level to do that, at least for
• 44:49
  Speaker 25: the regular person. If anything, you see a kid sitting
• 44:52
  Speaker 25: around and drawing. It's like, oh, that's cute. And if
• 44:55
  Speaker 25: you see an adult with crowns, it's like, what.
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: The hell is wrong with this?
• 44:59
  Speaker 19: I know what you mean. They're kind of like, oh,
• 45:02
  Speaker 19: they let you out early.
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah and then people will avoid it too like i
• 45:07
  Speaker 13: run into so many people and they're like oh i
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: can't draw i'm like well do you try yeah like
• 45:11
  Speaker 13: i just can't draw and it's like well there's nothing
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: wrong with trying you know i sucked at drawing when
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: i first started but i figured it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: Out it was a long time for me and i
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: still don't claim i don't suck but at one point
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: i just went i don't care anymore i just want
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: to do something i like.
• 45:25
  Speaker 25: To draw but i don't like to draw around like
• 45:27
  Speaker 25: other people because i feel like Mostly because my perception
• 45:31
  Speaker 25: is if you're an adult and you're drawing, then the
• 45:34
  Speaker 25: assumption is you know what you're doing.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: And if someone walks by and is just like, man,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: it looks like crap.
• 45:41
  Speaker 19: Your face looks like crap now.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: That's what you do.
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: But again it's that same it's that example that they
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: gave like if you do that with a little kid
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: if you tell them wow that's really great like they
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: just that's it like from that point on but.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: At the adult level it's just like that's.
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: A shame nobody does that to adults nobody comes along
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: and is like wow that's good you should do more
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: I was just like oh look at that I don't
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: know it's a weird discouraging thing.
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: I think movies are partly to blame for that because
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: the way movies represent artists is that they're all just genius.
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: They just come out that way.
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: And stuff just comes pouring out of them i really
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: like very few biographies or films about artists because the
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: way it's like the way movies represent intelligence uh which
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: is the essence of that is rain man looking at
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: a dropped box of toothpicks and he can count them
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: and you're a genius yeah he's a genius Or the supernatural,
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: like you're so smart you can make lightning come out
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: of the sky.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: How is that connected? Yeah. Or they said in.
• 46:51
  Speaker 14: Powder, he's scoring off the charts. It's like, well, then
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: who the fuck made the charts? Because if he's smarter
• 47:00
  Speaker 14: than the people that made the charts, he's probably going
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: to get a B because he's going to disagree with
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: them on some things.
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: It's probably the guy that made that Forrest Gump chart.
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: He's a little bit below.
• 47:11
  Speaker 14: The only one I really like is Camille Claudel. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: thought it was a really good movie about.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: A real artist. I liked Andrei Rublev. I don't know
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: if you've seen that one. Tartofsky. I'm trying to remember
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: if he... I think he made that before Solaris, the original.
• 47:30
  Speaker 25: But it's like three and a half hours of just
• 47:33
  Speaker 25: short vignettes of what it was like growing up, or
• 47:36
  Speaker 25: just basically living in 15th, 16th century Russia.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 25: And you don't see him ever working on any sculptures
• 47:44
  Speaker 25: or anything. And you very rarely even see him within
• 47:47
  Speaker 25: the film. It's basically, you watch it for three and
• 47:50
  Speaker 25: a half hours and you get an idea as to
• 47:53
  Speaker 25: how odd and yet how miserable life would have been
• 47:58
  Speaker 25: in this environment in like the last 15 minutes.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: It's just all of his work. It goes from black
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: and white to color.
• 48:06
  Speaker 25: And it just makes it such a miraculous thing when
• 48:08
  Speaker 25: you get a feeling as to, you know, what it
• 48:11
  Speaker 25: was like that he went through just on a day-to-day
• 48:13
  Speaker 25: basis or what anyone would go through in a day-to-day basis.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: And it's like, but this is what came out of it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: It's very interesting. It's not really a biopic, but it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: an interesting artist's film.
• 48:24
  Speaker 19: Did you guys see the Henry Darger one? I think
• 48:27
  Speaker 19: it came out in, like, 2008.
• 48:27
  Speaker 16: Oh, yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: I like that one a lot.
• 48:30
  Speaker 19: What was that called?
• 48:33
  Speaker 16: It was based off the title of his book, the 15,000-page
• 48:35
  Speaker 16: book he wrote.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the something....
• 48:39
  Speaker 19: I can't think of it now. I'll think of it later.
• 48:42
  Speaker 19: But that was really good. It was a land of
• 48:45
  Speaker 19: magic little dick girls.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 19: Or something like that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 14: It was like empire of the land of little dick girls.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:54
  Speaker 19: It was something like that. I love that one.
• 48:58
  Speaker 16: I really love Henry Darger, though. I feel like he's
• 49:01
  Speaker 16: responsible for the watercolor dick girls in my life.
• 49:05
  Speaker 19: Thank you, Henry Darger. No one will ever understand that you.
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: Until you get your endorsement, do you?
• 49:11
  Speaker 26: Right.
• 49:13
  Speaker 14: But I don't... I say that, but I don't really
• 49:15
  Speaker 14: have that problem.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: I do life drawing pretty well.
• 49:19
  Speaker 19: People probably love you.
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: For that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: I'm okay to go draw in public, and I don't
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: mind it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 19: That's never bothered me either.
• 49:26
  Speaker 14: I post my drawings online on Facebook.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Like, here's... I know.
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: I've seen them.
• 49:32
  Speaker 19: We need to be friends. We need to do that together.
• 49:33
  Speaker 19: So I do that same thing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: You do?
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: That's cool.
• 49:37
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: But... I mean, do you think as people who didn't
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: grow out of it, do you feel like that's, is
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: that a setting? Do you think, is it something that
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: everybody is born with that need to create and we
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: just beat it out of certain members of society? Is that,
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: is that what it is?
• 49:56
  Speaker 25: Yeah.
• 49:56
  Speaker 16: Cause everybody, most kids are born with like an amazing imagination.
• 50:01
  Speaker 16: My mother was so rad. Like she saved every drawing
• 50:03
  Speaker 16: I did and I would throw them away. It was like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 16: You just cue the violins. And she would come out and, like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 16: unwrinkle them and, like, put them on my dresser.
• 50:10
  Speaker 19: Like, don't give up.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: Don't give up on your dick girls.
• 50:12
  Speaker 14: I could open a small museum of kid art.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: That's awesome.
• 50:16
  Speaker 19: That's the best kind I feel.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 50:18
  Speaker 19: I love that stuff so much. You can't emulate it
• 50:20
  Speaker 19: when you get older.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: No, you can't.
• 50:22
  Speaker 19: It's like that magic is gone.
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: I think I stayed at that level, actually.
• 50:26
  Speaker 19: It's so beautiful.
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: Most of my stuff still kind of operates like a kid.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: Your stuff does have kind of that quality.
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: I didn't really graduate out of it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 19: That brutish.
• 50:33
  Speaker 14: And it's kind of inspiring because it just makes everything
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: seem so full of possibilities. And when you pursue, like,
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: developing a style, you begin to feel trapped in it,
• 50:44
  Speaker 14: and you wish you could do other things.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 14: Like I'm at the point where like I can draw
• 50:52
  Speaker 14: pretty well, but that's all I can make myself do anymore. It's,
• 50:56
  Speaker 14: it's very limiting in a way. It's the only thing
• 50:59
  Speaker 14: like sitting down and observing and drawing what's in front
• 51:03
  Speaker 14: of me is the only thing I can make myself
• 51:05
  Speaker 14: focus on long enough to finish it. And even then
• 51:09
  Speaker 14: it's not finished cause I'm not trying to make finished art.
• 51:11
  Speaker 14: I'm just drawing for, you know, the process.
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: How much of it is a process for everyone, I suppose. But,
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, how much of it is just it's become
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: what you do versus I liked a lot of the
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: stuff they were saying and the way that they were
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: phrasing it. That, like, how much of it, because so
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: much of theirs came back to, like, angst and anger. And, like, again,
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: a lot of mine came out of sheer frustration. But
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: I'm just, like, I do like that they specifically, like,
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: one of his quotes was, if you're not dispossessed, why
• 51:45
  Speaker 10: make art? I don't know. Is that part of that?
• 51:49
  Speaker 16: This may sound kind of bitchy of me, but I
• 51:51
  Speaker 16: feel like people that aren't dispossessed usually paint farmhouses.
• 51:56
  Speaker 10: Landscapes. Snowy mountains. Happy little trees.
• 52:00
  Speaker 19: Peaceful. I don't know about... He's different.
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a genius.
• 52:05
  Speaker 16: That's what I thought of when I heard that line.
• 52:08
  Speaker 16: I don't know if I really agree with that because
• 52:12
  Speaker 16: I don't know everyone and what their reasons or motives
• 52:14
  Speaker 16: are behind art, but I kind of feel like that's...
• 52:18
  Speaker 16: That's what happens sometimes.
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: Maybe that's what, I mean, maybe you just, depending on
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: how you develop, maybe not even artistically, just as a person,
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: maybe the people that level out and have a nice,
• 52:29
  Speaker 10: happy little existence in their head start painting horses. And,
• 52:33
  Speaker 10: you know, everybody else that's still messed up is just
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: grinding something out every week.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: But is there something wrong with doing horses.
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: If that's what brings you here?
• 52:42
  Speaker 20: No, not really.
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: Absolutely not. But I think it's a different approach. And
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: I think that's what I've been trying to figure out
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: watching these people because a lot of the stuff that
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: they were showing, they're all very... outsider art and they're
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: a graffiti artist and they're all doing something that's not
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: stuff that you would see behind somebody's sofa a lot
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: of the time. I guess it depends on where you go.
• 53:01
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the thing that's wrong with doing horses
• 53:04
  Speaker 14: is not that you're doing horses, it's that you're doing
• 53:06
  Speaker 14: horses because that's what people do.
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: Well, especially in this town because that's what sells.
• 53:11
  Speaker 14: Yeah, or you're doing it and there's nothing terribly wrong
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: with it, but I think we can feel free to
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: not be interested in it either. You know, you don't
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: have to condemn it, but It's not interesting because there's
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: a difference between people who are making art that comes
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: out of whatever it comes out of and people who
• 53:31
  Speaker 14: are trying to make stuff that looks like art.
• 53:35
  Speaker 25: But then how do you distinguish between the two?
• 53:40
  Speaker 14: I think I can.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: I could be wrong.
• 53:42
  Speaker 14: It may be illusion, but it's a vibe.
• 53:45
  Speaker 19: He has a detector that he just puts in front
• 53:47
  Speaker 19: of the paintings. I just think.
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: It's a vibe you get, and it doesn't mean that
• 53:53
  Speaker 14: it's right, but it's like what makes you interested or
• 53:56
  Speaker 14: not interested.
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: I think you can make that call, but it's one
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: of those everybody gets to make that call. Everybody has to.
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: No, I meant that I get to make that call.
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: Just you. You judge all art.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't.
• 54:07
  Speaker 25: I don't draw as much as I should, but usually
• 54:10
  Speaker 25: all my spare time, like any spare time I get,
• 54:12
  Speaker 25: I'm working on some sort of low-budget film project. For me,
• 54:16
  Speaker 25: the reason I like to do it is because that's
• 54:17
  Speaker 25: how I share my imagination. That's my number one reason
• 54:20
  Speaker 25: for doing it. It's just a fun medium to do that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 25: I feel like just watching a lot of other low-budget
• 54:26
  Speaker 25: stuff that other people do, I know what you're saying there,
• 54:30
  Speaker 25: where you can kind of tell this is somebody doing
• 54:32
  Speaker 25: something where it's just for the sheer love and.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: Fun of it. There's heart within it versus.
• 54:36
  Speaker 25: You watch something and it's like, there's an angle to this.
• 54:40
  Speaker 25: You're doing this to get some sort of name for
• 54:45
  Speaker 25: yourself or to garner attention for some.
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: Reason, shape, or form. It's like, why exactly are you
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: making another zombie film or something like that? I mean,
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: I kind of see what you're.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: Going with there.
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and in film, I totally agree. I mean, there's definitely,
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: especially now, it maybe was different pre-video boom because I
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: think before then, it was hard to make a movie.
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: Not that it's not hard now, but, like, think of how,
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: I mean, if impossible it was to get a hold
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: of the equipment and how expensive everything was, I think
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: filmmaking then, you had to love it. You know, even
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: when they were making crap, like, you had to be
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: pretty invested in it. Where since digital's come along in particular,
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: I think in these last 10 years or so, there's
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: been such a shift that you see a lot of
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: people making stuff because it will sell.
• 55:30
  Speaker 25: Or hoping that it will sell very much so and
• 55:32
  Speaker 25: there's still the mentality that you know it's something that
• 55:34
  Speaker 25: it's not done on you know a younger level because
• 55:37
  Speaker 25: i have the film club at my school that i
• 55:39
  Speaker 25: sponsor and i try to encourage the kids because you
• 55:41
  Speaker 25: know they'll say well i want to you know go
• 55:43
  Speaker 25: to film school when i graduate high school it's like
• 55:46
  Speaker 25: well what have you made it's like well nothing i
• 55:47
  Speaker 25: figure i'll do it then it's like that's like that's
• 55:49
  Speaker 25: like saying if you want to be an art major
• 55:51
  Speaker 25: you're going to wait to start drawing when you graduate
• 55:54
  Speaker 25: high school it's like No, in this day and age,
• 55:57
  Speaker 25: if you've got a few hundred bucks, you can just
• 56:00
  Speaker 25: go to Target, get an.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: HD camera, and download a couple programs, and you have
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: a studio in your own room.
• 56:05
  Speaker 19: Yes, that's the thing.
• 56:06
  Speaker 16: I don't know, I guess you're kind of led into
• 56:11
  Speaker 16: the belief that you have to have degrees to do art,
• 56:13
  Speaker 16: and it's a fallacy.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Very much so.
• 56:16
  Speaker 19: And it sucks. It's like the kids think that, but
• 56:19
  Speaker 19: they have to be in film school.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: Well, especially in drawing.
• 56:23
  Speaker 14: Drawing used to be, viewed more as just a skill
• 56:26
  Speaker 14: set and then the old european universities everybody learned to
• 56:30
  Speaker 14: draw because it was something you did and even the
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: drawings of the artists were just like to organize the
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: stuff they were going to paint or sculpt um and
• 56:42
  Speaker 14: and the idea of drawing as an independent medium is
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: like a weird subcultural thing in the u.s that i
• 56:48
  Speaker 14: was into but Now everybody thinks it's like this magical
• 56:53
  Speaker 14: gift skill that you either have or you don't.
• 56:55
  Speaker 26: Right.
• 56:56
  Speaker 14: And they don't see it as just work like any
• 56:58
  Speaker 14: other kind of work.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: You do it, you get better.
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: At it, and some people have some qualities that are
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: good and other people have other qualities that are good.
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: That's one of the few, I mean, I try to
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: work in artists along the way, and one of the
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: few people that said that in previous episodes go back
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: and listen to the first time we talked to Eric Chubb.
• 57:16
  Speaker 10: And that's exactly what he said, who did, you know,
• 57:19
  Speaker 10: all of the concept drawings for Battlestar Galactica and now
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: geeks worship him. But I mean, he's like, it's not,
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: you know, you didn't just get blessed by whatever you
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: believe in. It's just every day I kept drawing and
• 57:30
  Speaker 10: I kept throwing away that terrible one.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: About how long he thought it would take you to
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: learn to do it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: He had it mapped out and it wasn't that long
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: really it's like if you do it every day if
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: you wanted to learn to draw you'd do that two
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: years you'll be fine it was about two years and
• 57:45
  Speaker 10: I'm like you know you'll be a hell of a
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: lot better I bet so most people just don't do
• 57:49
  Speaker 10: that well it's.
• 57:50
  Speaker 13: Like that book The Outliers and it talks about to
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: be good at something it's the 10,000 hour thing and
• 57:54
  Speaker 13: they talked about the Beatles and how it was them
• 57:56
  Speaker 13: going to Hamburg and playing like all day long and
• 57:59
  Speaker 13: then they came back and they suddenly knew how to
• 58:01
  Speaker 13: play music together I think the same thing is true
• 58:03
  Speaker 13: for drawing or painting.
• 58:04
  Speaker 19: It's everything.
• 58:05
  Speaker 16: It's a myth that you are gifted. I hate that compliment.
• 58:08
  Speaker 19: Oh, you're gifted.
• 58:09
  Speaker 16: And it insinuates that all the hard work you did
• 58:12
  Speaker 16: was none of your doing. It was some kind of
• 58:15
  Speaker 16: higher entity blessed you with this. And it also alludes
• 58:18
  Speaker 16: that no one can do this. Except for you, you're
• 58:21
  Speaker 16: some gifted prodigy.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: And it's total bullshit. If you aren't born gifted, then
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: why are you trying?
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 58:27
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: It's like one or the other.
• 58:28
  Speaker 19: I hate that so much.
• 58:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's probably that step that comes in the middle.
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: Those are all the people that are getting that, and
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: they're getting the, like, you know, you're climbing up trying
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: to have this, you know, this big dream that you have,
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: and people will come along and sort of pull that
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: out from under you and be like, no, you're not gifted,
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: so don't even bother.
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: Those are the people that go get regular jobs and, like,
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: don't bother trying anymore.
• 58:48
  Speaker 19: That's what they were talking about in the documentary, they
• 58:50
  Speaker 19: give up.
• 58:51
  Speaker 16: Because the children are, like, drawing, drawing, drawing, and then there's, like,
• 58:53
  Speaker 16: a filter there, and then they just kind of, like,
• 58:55
  Speaker 16: some people just keep doing it because they just don't care,
• 58:58
  Speaker 16: you know?
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: Of course.
• 58:59
  Speaker 10: They just love doing it.
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: That's why, to me, one of my favorite movies, I guess,
• 59:05
  Speaker 14: was the original series of uh the office the bbc
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: because it it goes through this this grinding dull and
• 59:15
  Speaker 14: they would film more than in the american version they
• 59:18
  Speaker 14: would just film these little moments of absolute tedium for.
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: A little while you just see people.
• 59:25
  Speaker 14: In an office but when it got to the point
• 59:27
  Speaker 14: uh where Tim gets Dawn, I think was her name,
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: the paint set, spoiler alert, at the Christmas party with
• 59:39
  Speaker 14: a little note that says, never give up. That's just
• 59:42
  Speaker 14: the most touching and romantic moment in any kind of
• 59:46
  Speaker 14: show like that that I've ever seen.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: That's just huge. Because, you know, her.
• 59:51
  Speaker 14: Boyfriend is like, it's time to quit doing your little
• 59:54
  Speaker 14: doodles and get a job.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: He's such an ass. I just want him to die.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: There's a lot of people like that in the world, actually.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 10: Let's start making a list.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 14: I actually saw the American version up to the end,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 14: and boy, they fucked it up.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: It got so fucked up.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 10: It went on too long. No show needs to go
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: past about season five, usually.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It's sad. It's like old Ali.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 14: He was still kind of good, but he, you know.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 27: Time to stop.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: There's time to quit, I guess. I don't know. Maybe
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: there's not.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 14: Maybe people just should do what they can do, and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 14: we should deal with it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's... As long as they're having fun. As
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 10: long as they're enjoying it. And, like, especially when people
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: are still, like, enjoying it. I mean, people keep showing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: up for those concerts. I'm like, if he's 70 and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: people keep showing.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Up, why would he.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 10: Like, what's he going to go get a regular job now?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: He's going to be bagging your groceries?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 19: I want to go to Walmart and see him later.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 19: Like Keith Richards.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: He'd just be curled up in the parking.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: Lot of Walmart.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 14: Well, I always figured if they did something else, they'd
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 14: be carnies.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yay!
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: You can easily see them being the guy like.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 10: The rock and roll circus.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 14: You're not really tall enough to get on the ride, but.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: Keith will let you on.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 12: He doesn't care.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: He's so irresponsible.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 10: He's reckless.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: He might lock the door.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 19: He might not.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 10: Have fun. I don't know, people, that's the thing. Like,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 10: I don't understand that either, that people just let, and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, feel free to talk smack about them if
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 10: you want, if you don't like, if you don't like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: what they do anymore, cause I'll even say that about
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 10: that specific example, there's a very big difference between what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: they're doing now versus what they were doing in like
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: the seventies or the early sixties or, you know, like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: all of that has changed, but I'm like, I don't
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: tell them not to do it. You know, I'm just like, if,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: if they're still having fun doing it and people are
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: paying them money to do it, I mean, there's no
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: downside for anybody there. Just don't listen to them. You know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: just like, don't pay attention to them if that's not
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: your thing. But, Yeah, I mean, there's so many people
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: I will hear that specific example. They're just like, well,
• 1:02:03
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  Speaker 2: Hustle.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: That's Y-O-U-E-I-G-H-D-I-G.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: You hate it.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 29: Education has never been so wow.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Hi, this is Jess Wexler.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 18: You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: Our movie's The Lie.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And hi, this is Joshua Leonard.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 25: Thanks for being with us today or tonight or whenever
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 25: you happen to be listening to this.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 18: It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 18: enough movies.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 17: On the backswing, watching your chance.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: Pass by. Baby, you can reach it if you stand
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: up and fight.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: So shed your skin down.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: To your bone without coming loose.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: Imagine.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 22: They call me Mother Goose at work.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 18: I don't even know.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: What that means.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I can see that.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 12: I don't even know what that means.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: I can see that.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: I would call you Mother Goose.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't understand it.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: It seems alright to me.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 10: And I'm not even sure why.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 19: I don't know what that means.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: Are we live?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: If you want to be, sure.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: Feel free to curse as much as possible.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 12: I usually don't.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: Mother goose.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 12: He says, feel free to curse as much as possible.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 12: I'm like, you usually don't.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: We've tried.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 15: No worries.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: This is like a fairy tale.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: So we're back and we have our musical entertainment for
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: the evening. So I guess give them your info, band
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: and or individual names, however you'd like to do it.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 22: We are the Moonlight Peddlers and I'm Heidi. This is
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 22: Chris Fisher over here.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 28: Brian.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: He's afraid of the mic.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 17: Leonard.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 12: Nick is inside practicing the drums.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: No, he said he wanted to eat.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 12: He's eating.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: It's a lie.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: He was so anxiously awaiting the food, he didn't want
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: to come outside. They said there's still a bunch of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: tickets ahead.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: Aside from the food, things have gone pretty well here
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: so far. Pretty well. So, yeah, we're... I don't know.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: It's been a good turnout, and you guys are getting
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 10: ready to play.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: So I guess how did the band come together?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: If we'll take a sidestep into the music here.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 22: How did the band come together, short of the long
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 22: of the short of it, is that Brian and I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 22: had a class together.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Not me.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: I'm Brian.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 12: Other Brian. Oh, it's Brian.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 11: Brian.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 11: Oh, is your name Brian?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 12: Other Brian.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: Solidarity of the Brians.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: Right? I'm Y.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I'm Y.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: We can operate... We don't have to occupy... Yeah, we
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: don't have to occupy the same space.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 29: It's kind of like the Shiites and the.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: What are the other ones? The Sunnis and the Shiites?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: Muslims?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: We can learn to get along.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: It's cool.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: It's not a deal.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 29: It's probably not that intense, but I mean, really.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: I'm going to go with the Dark Crystal reference and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: just Skeksis and, you know.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: We occupy the same body.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 21: Anyway.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 12: No, Brian getting off topic.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: Wait, now you are talking about me. Okay. Back to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: the band.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 22: So we met, we had a class together. And essentially
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 22: that's how we hooked up. And then from there we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 22: started jamming in the garage with Nick, the drummer. And
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 22: then we snagged Chris over here on bass. And then
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 22: we realized that he had an awesome voice, and so
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 22: we weren't just a duo anymore singing.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 12: We decided to become a trio.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 22: And so then with the three-part harmonies, that's become kind
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 22: of our grabbing sound or what we try and go
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 22: towards and embrace that area of our musical.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 12: Did.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: You mention Patrick?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 12: And I was getting to Patrick. Patrick, we saved the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: best for last.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: You introduced the band.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 12: Patrick Shoring.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 22: We couldn't live without Patrick Shoring, even though he's not
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 22: here tonight, so we're half dead.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 22: patrick is our mandolin player lead guitarist he's basically just
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 22: a prodigy and we love him and so we're only
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 22: part of the moonlight peddlers tonight but we're gonna make
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 22: do he's over working at world fest so oh.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 10: We don't like the world yeah we lost the sixth
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: member of the band in 19.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 12: Chris's beard is gone.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: Oh man how can you carry on.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 12: It's hard we're gonna try no patrick No Chris's beard.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Brian told me to go home and put my beard
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: back on.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah. We can get, I'm sure somebody here does special effects.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 10: We can latex you on.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Who brought a backup beard?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: That can be arranged.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 11: Backup beard.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 29: I'm not someone who really has a backup beard.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 20: Backup beard.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry to say, yeah, I mean.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing a fake beard.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 12: It's like strapped over his ears.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: Given our neighborhood, I'm sure that can be arranged here.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 29: Someone's like, hey, let's get a backup beard. And then
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 29: the girl looks at her boyfriend like, you.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Got a backup beard?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: And she's like, he's like, no, no, no.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 29: Don't let him have my backup beard.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 10: It's for me.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: It's for me.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: It's for emergencies.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 29: Okay, it's for emergencies.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: It's only for emergencies.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I might need it tonight. Don't do it to him.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: It's so awkward on a lot of levels.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: All right, sorry.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I'm getting so off topic.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: You are like me.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: So, okay, we focus a lot of the time, although
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: we've done a big crossover into music lately. But just
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: to throw it back to our normal movie thing, are
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: you a big movie person?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 22: If I was to be honest, I would have to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 22: say I appreciate movies, but I'm not by any stretch
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 22: a movie buff.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 12: This guy here should be on the interview.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 22: But I will say if I stay awake during a movie,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 22: it's a good movie.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 12: So I am one of those.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: I can't call you out because I'll go to sleep,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 10: and it has nothing to do whether it's good or not.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: I just get no sleep. If I sit still long
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: enough to watch a movie, it's a good time to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: take a nap.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 26: Exactly.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 11: Exactly.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 22: These guys, though, will sit reciting movie quotes, and I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 22: am lost.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 10: But sometimes I like to get a different perspective, because
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 10: we'll get our group of hardcore dorks together, and we'll
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 10: be spouting lines, and then somebody who just sort of
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 10: grazes the topic will come in and have a totally
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: different take on things. So I kind of appreciate that.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and I appreciate that. I'm kind of in... I'm
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 12: kind of in awe of people who.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 22: Are able to be that clever and witty and reciting quotes.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 9: So we usually will do some sort of rundown of
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 9: stuff we've seen. Have you seen any movies lately?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 11: Brian, what's your favorite movie?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: See, to me, that's too huge a question.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 29: You're right.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: A movie I like.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: You're right. Shoot me like a three random at the moment.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: Twelve Monkeys.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: Twelve Monkeys.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 16: Awesome.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: Actually, we have a fine City of Lost Children movie.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: Piece of artwork inside that is one of my favorites.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: 12 Monkeys is a Terry Gilliam movie.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: Terry Gilliam, yep, yep.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 12: See Brian's cool thing. See how the Brian's here?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: Let's see. Let's throw another one out. Dawn of the Dead. Either, really.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: I'm even a fan of the remake.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: What was your second one?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: City of Lost Children.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: City of Lost Children. That's Clive Owen, right?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: No, no, that's Children of Men. Children of Men, that's right.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 29: Do you know what the crazy movie they were playing
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 29: on the screen.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Was a little while ago?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: Yes, because I put it in. That was awesome.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta see it.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: I was trying to.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 10: Find a good tie-in that we had done an entire
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: episode about.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: We've done an entire... We probably talked for more than
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: an hour about that movie.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 10: It is called, for you long-time listeners out there, maybe
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: you remember, it's called The Cremators.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: It has nothing to do with cremating. It's a fireball, yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: You'd think it would be.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 10: At the time, we assumed it would be some sort
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: of cremator gone mad and he's trapping people and just
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: burning them alive. No, it's a giant orange fireball from
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 10: space that comes here and just rolls over top of
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 10: people and leaves behind like a science class skeleton.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: It's really bad.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 9: It's really low budget.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 29: That's great.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 9: Don't you call that bad. Oh, it's bad. It's epic bad.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: That's what makes it good.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 9: Do you mean.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 29: Bad like how Michael Jackson means bad?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: I'm okay with that.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: Who's bad?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: But it was part of a series I had of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 10: the Maria de Aragon movies, who nobody.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: Knows, which is why I did an entire film series
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 9: on her.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: Her only real claim to fame is she's in the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 10: Greedo costume in Star Wars.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 26: Yeah.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 9: For that, like, two seconds that she's on screen.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: And then she made, like, three or.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: Four other movies that nobody's ever seen, so I did
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 10: an entire series on her.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: We did an interview with her.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I would watch all of them.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 10: She's a really interesting and very nice lady, and she's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: from Canada.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: That's even better. They're all nice. They're creepy nice.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: They are a little bit.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you they are.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: No offense to our Canadian listeners, but yeah, a little bit.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 29: You don't realize how not nice people in Louisville are
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 29: until you go to Canada, and you're like, It freaks
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 29: you out.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: You're like, you're almost offended.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 29: Like, no, I'm not going to stay at your house.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Like, go away. What are you talking about? Like, you
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: go to a gas station. They're like, you guys are
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: out of town. Do you need a place to stay?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 29: And you're like, no, I'm not going to stay at
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 29: your house.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: Now you're going into hostile territory.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on a minute.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: You don't stay over where you don't know.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 29: You know what's funny is that it's like, it's so
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 29: cold up there, but green grass is everywhere.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: I don't get it.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 29: There's no trash anywhere. We have this theory that they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 29: eat trash.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: And poop green grass.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: The wonders of Canada.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 29: And that's why they're so nice. Because there's so much
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 29: to eat all the time.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 9: Because they're recycling all day long.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 10: I mean, it makes the karma of their life makes
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: them so cool.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: We love you, Canada.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Am I getting all talk?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 9: No, it's perfectly talk. Seems to be our running theme. Oh, wait,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 9: it's always our running theme on this show. So, have
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: you watched a movie lately?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: Have I watched a movie lately? That's a terrible thing
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 12: to ask.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 9: I know, it's kind of why I like springing it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 9: on people.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 12: I honestly can't remember the last movie I watched.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: I was trying to get that alternative take.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 12: I did watch a movie.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 22: The last movie that I've seen out of the red
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 22: box was Flight.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 12: Denzel Washington.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: Do you like drunk Denzel?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 12: Denzel Washington. Super amazing.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 22: And I did not fall asleep, so it shows it
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 22: was amazing.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 9: Did it make you want to lay off the sauce?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: Because there's been a problem. I mean, what I've heard
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: about the band is you've got a problem.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: Hey, you know what?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Denzel's good in that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 29: Surprisingly, John Goodman was.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Good in that.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 12: John Goodman was so good.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: I've heard he's really good, yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 14: I was expecting him to suck in that, but he
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 14: was good in it.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 11: He was really good.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 9: John Goodman's usually pretty good. He just gets hit and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: miss roles.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 9: Sometimes they're amazing.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: He was amazing in that one.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 9: When he delivers, he knocks it out of the park.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 29: Walter is his all-time.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest. Let's watch that.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: Big Lebowski.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 29: Yes, it's all the time.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, have you seen Raising Arizona?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: He's pretty epic in that, too.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 29: I don't know anybody that can quote Raising Arizona as
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 29: much as they can quote Walter from Big Lebowski.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but Big Lebowski is overdone, especially in our town.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 9: You know, the fact that.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 29: It's overdone doesn't keep me from loving the hell.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: Out of it.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: See, that's the thing.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 10: I have to draw the line, and I have to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: be like, the fact that it gets way too much
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 10: press and attention in our town doesn't stop it from
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 10: being a great movie.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: It legitimately is. But, again, doing things the way I did.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: We went to Lebowski Fest and did a special episode
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: and talked about Raising Arizona.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Nice, nice.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: We spent the entire episode talking about that.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: They're all Coen Brothers movies.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was like, let's just go a different way.
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  Speaker 10: I don't want to hit the nail squarely on the head.
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  Speaker 2: John Goodman is awesome in Coen Brothers movies. Let's just
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: put it that way. In most movies. Cyclops in O
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  Speaker 2: Brother was okay.
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  Speaker 9: He's still pretty entertaining.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: He's all right.
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  Speaker 9: Let's talk about Barton Fink.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 9: Can't go wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, look, it's Marlena. Say hello.
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  Speaker 2: Marlena.
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  Speaker 7: Hello.
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  Speaker 12: I like that name, Marlena.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 11: What's your favorite movie, Marlena? Ghost World.
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  Speaker 7: What is it?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 11: Ghost World.
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  Speaker 2: Ghost World?
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  Speaker 9: I'm not surprised by that. I knew that.
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  Speaker 12: I like your shoes, Marlena.
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  Speaker 18: Thank you.
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  Speaker 11: They're orthopedic shoes.
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  Speaker 12: You're cute.
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  Speaker 9: And an old lady. Would you like to tell us
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  Speaker 9: what you've seen lately?
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  Speaker 11: I watched Carnival again.
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  Speaker 9: Not a movie, but it is excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I keep having weird nightmares about it.
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  Speaker 24: I have so many Marlena moments to share with you.
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  Speaker 11: I have a walking, talking Marlena moment.
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  Speaker 9: She has her own theme.
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  Speaker 11: With me. He's inside somewhere. It's funny. It's a long story.
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  Speaker 9: Which is how all of her stuff works.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 24: But once I met this guy who worked on the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 24: street for me, and then we, like, have everything in common,
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  Speaker 24: and then I was like, hey.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 11: Why don't you live with me?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 24: And he does now, and it's really weird.
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  Speaker 9: And that's been another Marlena moment.
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  Speaker 29: That sounds awesome.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 24: Sometimes it's really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Don't ruin it for me.
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  Speaker 29: Let me just go get it out of my mind.
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  Speaker 11: That sounds awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 29: First the fireball space.
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  Speaker 22: Movie now this no but she thinks we were just
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 22: going into the wonders of Canada which we do a
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 22: lot on this show at the end.
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  Speaker 29: Of we just had our fingers crossed that you were
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 29: Canadian as you.
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  Speaker 12: Were walking up we were hoping I mean I would
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 12: have health insurance right now.
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  Speaker 24: If I was Canadian join the club yeah he's around
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  Speaker 24: somewhere but uh yeah don't ever meet someone and then
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  Speaker 24: be like hey be.
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  Speaker 10: My roommate sometimes I randomly meet people on the internet
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  Speaker 10: That's scary, too.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: That is. We got a cat today, though.
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  Speaker 9: On purpose?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah. It's a dwarf kitten. We haven't named it because
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: we don't know if it's a boy or a girl,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 11: but if it's a boy, it's named Basil.
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  Speaker 12: You can still name her Basil, and you can call
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: her Basil if it's a girl.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: He can't say Basil.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: Basil.
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  Speaker 9: The cat you're talking about, right? Cat won't talk to me.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 9: He's too good for me?
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  Speaker 1: Come on.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: But he's real tiny, and... It's really cute. I feel
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 11: like I've watched movies like crazy lately and I can't
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 11: think of any. God damn, this is really difficult.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 24: It's like when you're at a touch change jukebox and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 24: you're trying to think of a song that you like
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 24: and you suddenly can't remember any type of music you've
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 24: ever listened to in your whole life.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: I know that.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: I hate that moment.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 9: Then you just look for your own music on there.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: Is it not on the jukebox? Is that what you're
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: telling me? You guys have not broke through into the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: jukebox land?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 16: No.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 9: She's our musical entertainment.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 30: Oh, cool.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 11: Do you want to teach people how to play accordion?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 10: I've cut everyone else out of the band, by the way.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: You're our musical entertainment. They wandered off, so tough luck.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 12: Nick's on the stage by himself. It's just the drummer.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: He's just out there eating, though. I mean, everybody's watching
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: him eat. It's kind of creepy. I'm not sure which
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: is more creepy. They're both a little creepy.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 11: I have two. accordions, and I don't know how to
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 11: play either one of them.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: Aren't they in tables now?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 12: Just the fact you have them.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 11: They are in tables now. Are they?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 12: That's genius.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: I mean, they're in boxes, and they sit beside a chair,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 11: and there's books on top of them.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: That's cool, Marlena.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: And that's been another Marlena.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 11: Do you give accordion lessons?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 19: I do not.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 12: Busy Ants? Busy Needs? On Bardstown Road? There's a very
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 12: nice man in there, and he does. I'm pretty sure.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 12: I know he fixes them. Maybe I'm misquoting this fact.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 11: I'll have to go there.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 12: But you should ask him, too, because I bet he'd
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 12: love to.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: For sure.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 11: I'm going to go find my roommate, and I'll be
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: right out.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Marlena.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 9: We're wrapping up, but thank you for joining us.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 10: After this weird person that's been stalking me, do you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: need to come talk or something?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 22: I can give you the microphone because I think the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 22: musical entertainment.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 12: Is about to begin.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: Well, before that happens, go ahead and tell people where
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 10: to find you.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: Find us?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: Your band.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 12: Our band.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 9: Not those other guys.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 12: You can find us at the Hilltop Tavern on Frankfurt Avenue.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 12: We're about to start.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: After today.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 12: After today.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 22: You can look for us on Facebook.com slash Moonlight Peddlers.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 22: We're on YouTube and Reverb Nation. And they play us
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 22: on 91.9. Maybe you've heard of One Shot.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: It's on the internet.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 12: On the internet.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 9: Even in Canada, they can listen to it.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: Even in Canada, yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 9: That's true.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah, stream it live, 91.9 WFPK.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 9: Well, thank you for joining us.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 26: Absolutely.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: And thank you for playing.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 9: And we'll work in some of your music onto the show.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 12: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: Pleasure.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: You too.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: Thank you. Gonna leave my home.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 17: And get through Gonna leave my home.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: And go Okay, I.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 10: Think we're going to go out with one from the album.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: Which one should we go with?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 29: Play the first track, Oh Barbara.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: Play that song. Okay. So we are going with Oh Barbara.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 29: We're happy with that song, yeah, yeah. We're happy with
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 29: all of them, but that seems to be the one
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 29: everybody likes to dance to, so yeah.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 10: All right, we are out of here with O'Barbara from
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  Speaker 10: the Moonlight Peddlers. Thank you once again for playing tonight. Otherwise,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 10: that about does it.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 9: Thanks for listening.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: My sweet sunshine Came to me in a dream My
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: bottle of Where did you go?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 28: My hips are gonna roll And feet are gonna climb
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 28: Until I find my.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 17: Bottle of guitar solo.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 27: Sweetest thing you've ever.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: Seen Skin of gold.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 26: And lived so fine That fateful night, a tragedy They
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 26: took from me my barbed wire.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 28: My head's all gonna roll and feet.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: Are gonna climb until I find my long road.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 30: Guitar solo Thank you.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 21: Laying her in the pines Of Kentucky where she was
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 21: born Now did you hear I had a baby girl
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 21: And I.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 28: Named her Barbara Now heads are gonna roll And feet
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 28: are gonna climb Until I find my Barbara.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: Until I find my Barbara Until I find.
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• 1:24:44
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• 1:24:48
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• 1:24:50
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• 1:24:53
  Speaker 20: Talk hard!