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Introducing our 'Foundations of Mental Strength' programme · Blether Together with Farmstrong Scotland

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  Hello,
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  welcome
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  to
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  Blether
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  Together
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  from
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  Farm
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  Strong
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  Scotland.
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  I'm
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  Sarah
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  Stephen.
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  Thanks
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  as
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  always
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  for
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  being
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  with
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  us.
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  This
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  time
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  we've
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  got
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  an
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  introduction,
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  a
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  bit
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  of
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  a
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  primer
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  to
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  a
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  really
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  brilliant
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  program
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  being
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  offered
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  by
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  Farm
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  Strong
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  called
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  Foundations
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  of
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  Mental
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  Strength,
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  or
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  foms.
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  FOMS
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  is
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  a
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  series
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  of
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  workshops
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  that
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  explore
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  how
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  personal
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  experience
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  shapes
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  our
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  approach
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  to
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  farming
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  and
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  life.
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  Areas
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  like
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  self
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  awareness,
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  adapting
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  to
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  challenges
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  and
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  keeping
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  a
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  clear
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  head
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  to
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  manage
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  business
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  decisions.
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  We're
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  joined
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  for
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  this
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  episode
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  by
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  Kirsty
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  Ritchie
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  from
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  mental
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  health
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  consultancy
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  Mind
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  and
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  Mission.
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  Kirsty
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  was
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  a
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  big
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  part
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  of
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  developing
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  the
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  forms
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  program
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  bespoke
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  for
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  Farm
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  Strong
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  in
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  response
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  to
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  findings
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  from
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  our
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  recent
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  surveys.
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  Psychologically,
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  we
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  respond
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  to
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  discomfort,
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  we
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  respond
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  to
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  difficulty
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  in
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  the
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  same
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  way,
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  regardless
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  of
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  the
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  industry
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  we
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  work
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  in.
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  And
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  we'll
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  have
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  Emily
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  Grant,
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  a
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  former
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  farmer
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  who's
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  recently
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  become
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  a
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  crofter.
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  As
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  we'll
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  hear,
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  Emily
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  runs
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  a
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  consultancy
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  helping
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  mostly
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  beef
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  and
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  sheep
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  farmers
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  improve
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  their
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  systems,
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  which
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  of
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  course
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  relies
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  on
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  a
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  clear
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  head
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  and
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  good
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  mental
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  health.
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  Successful
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  businesses
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  are
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  predominantly
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  about
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  people,
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  their
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  thought
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  processes,
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  their
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  drivers,
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  their
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  purpose
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  behind
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  the
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  business.
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  Emily
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  is
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  also
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  team
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  delivering
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  forms
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  workshops
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  around
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  Scotland.
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  There's
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  lots
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  of
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  great
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  advice
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  in
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  this
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  chat,
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  as
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  well
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  as
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  background
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  on
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  the
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  FOMS
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  program.
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  Get
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  onto
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  the
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  farmstrong
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  Scotland
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  website
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  to
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  find
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  out
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  how
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  to
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  sign
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  up
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  and
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  book
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  in
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  sessions,
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  but
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  not
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  before
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  you've
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  had
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  a
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  listen
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  to
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  this
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  fab
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  chat
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  with
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  Emily
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  and
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  Kirsty
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  Christie.
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  Where
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  are
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  you
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  coming
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  from?
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  I'm
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  in
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  Edinburgh.
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  Is
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  that
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  home
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  for
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  you?
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  It
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  is
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  home
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  for
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  me,
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  yeah.
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  Originally
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  from
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  the
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  Borders,
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  but
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  I've
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  been
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  in
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  Edinburgh.
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  I'm
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  a
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  half
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  and
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  halfer.
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  That's
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  what
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  I
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  call
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  myself
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  now
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  of
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  half
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  my
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  life
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  in.
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  In
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  Edinburgh.
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  I
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  won't
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  divulge
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  how
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  many
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  years,
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  but
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  more
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  than
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  two
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  decades.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  know.
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  I'm
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  with
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  you
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  there.
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  And
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  Emily,
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  what
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  about
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  yourself?
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  Where
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  are
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  you
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  from?
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  Today?
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  I'm
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  today
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  sat
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  just
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  halfway
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  between
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  Aviemore
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  and
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  Nithy
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  Bridge.
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  So.
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  So
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  recently
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  moved
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  up
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  here
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  from
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  Perthshire,
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  actually.
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  Okay,
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  how's
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  the
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  move?
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  Gone.
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  Moving
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  farm
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  is
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  challenging
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  but
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  relieved.
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  And
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  also
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  we're
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  temporarily
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  in
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  a
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  static
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  whilst
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  we
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  do
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  a
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  house
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  build.
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  So
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  I've
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  suddenly
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  shrunk
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  a
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  large
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  space
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  into
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  a
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  small
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  one,
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  which
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  is,
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  yeah,
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  challenging,
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  but
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  all
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  good.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh,
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  wow.
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  So
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  you're
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  living
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  in
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  a
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  static
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  caravan
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  while
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  you
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  build
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  a
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  house.
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  I
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  take
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  my
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  hat
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  off
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  to
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  you.
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  That
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  is
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  a
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  gutsy
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  move.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Well
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  done
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  for
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  just
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  making
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  it
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  today.
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  I
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  know.
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  Yes.
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  And
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  here,
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  here.
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  Were
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  we
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  complaining
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  about
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  your
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  wi
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  fi,
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  Emily?
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  I'm
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  just
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  really
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  interested
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  to
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  know
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  why.
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  Why
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  the
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  move?
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  My
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  other
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  half
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  is
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  originally
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  from
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  this
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  knack
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  of
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  the
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  woods.
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  He's
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  from
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  Strathspey,
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  so
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  he'd
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  always
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  been
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  keen
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  to
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  come
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  back
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  north
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  and
• 3:08
  he
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  worked
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  full
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  time
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  off
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  the
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  farm
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  before,
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  so
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  he'd,
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  luckily
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  for
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  him,
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  managed
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  to
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  take
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  early
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  retirement.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  so
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  a
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  move.
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  And
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  also
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  the
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  farm
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  we
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  were
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  on
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  wasn't
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  a
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  family
• 3:18
  farm,
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  so
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  we
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  don't
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  have
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  that
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  bind
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  probably
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  that
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  a
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  lot
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  of
• 3:21
  people
• 3:21
  have
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  on,
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  on
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  the
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  farms
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  we're
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  on.
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  So
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  we've
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  bought
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  an
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  amazing
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  craft.
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  So
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  I've
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  become
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  a
• 3:26
  crofter
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  and
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  it
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  literally
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  is
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  stunning.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  really
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  looking
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  forward
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  to
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  the
• 3:31
  project.
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  It'll
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  be
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  worth
• 3:32
  it
• 3:32
  in
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  the
• 3:32
  end.
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  Ask
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  me
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  in
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  the
• 3:33
  middle
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  of
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  winter
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  if
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  I'm
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  happy
• 3:34
  and
• 3:34
  ecstatic.
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  I
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  was
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  going
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  to
• 3:36
  say
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  that
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  we
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  got
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  a
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  good
• 3:37
  wood
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  burner
• 3:38
  somewhere
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  in
• 3:39
  there
• 3:39
  as
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  well.
• 3:39
  That
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  might
• 3:40
  happen
• 3:40
  yet.
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  That's
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  really
• 3:42
  brave
• 3:42
  and
• 3:43
  bold
• 3:43
  move.
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  So
• 3:44
  well
• 3:44
  done.
• 3:45
  That
• 3:45
  sounds
• 3:46
  an
• 3:46
  exciting
• 3:46
  project.
• 3:46
  I
• 3:47
  wish
• 3:47
  you
• 3:47
  all
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  best
• 3:47
  with
• 3:47
  it.
• 3:48
  So,
• 3:49
  ladies,
• 3:49
  it's
• 3:49
  lovely
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  have
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  on
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  program.
• 3:51
  It's
• 3:51
  a
• 3:51
  double
• 3:51
  header.
• 3:52
  It's
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  female
• 3:52
  double
• 3:53
  header
• 3:53
  today,
• 3:53
  which
• 3:54
  is
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  first,
• 3:55
  I
• 3:55
  think,
• 3:55
  on
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  podcast.
• 3:57
  I
• 3:58
  tend
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  start
• 3:59
  these
• 3:59
  chats
• 3:59
  with
• 4:00
  a
• 4:00
  rapid
• 4:01
  fire
• 4:02
  question
• 4:02
  round.
• 4:03
  I've
• 4:04
  just
• 4:04
  got
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  whole
• 4:04
  list
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  questions
• 4:05
  in
• 4:05
  front
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  me
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  I
• 4:05
  randomly
• 4:06
  pick
• 4:06
  them,
• 4:06
  so
• 4:07
  let's
• 4:07
  see
• 4:07
  where
• 4:07
  it
• 4:08
  goes.
• 4:08
  Right,
• 4:08
  we'll
• 4:09
  just
• 4:09
  do
• 4:09
  it
• 4:09
  alternatively.
• 4:10
  Kirsty,
• 4:10
  I'll
• 4:11
  start
• 4:11
  with
• 4:11
  you
• 4:11
  since
• 4:11
  you're
• 4:12
  at
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  top
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  my
• 4:12
  screen.
• 4:14
  What's
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  first
• 4:14
  thing
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  did
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  morning?
• 4:16
  Oh,
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  terrible,
• 4:17
  terrible.
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  checked
• 4:19
  my
• 4:19
  phone
• 4:19
  and
• 4:20
  it's
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  one
• 4:20
  thing
• 4:20
  I
• 4:20
  teach
• 4:21
  everyone
• 4:21
  else
• 4:21
  not
• 4:21
  to
• 4:22
  do.
• 4:22
  Emily,
• 4:23
  are
• 4:23
  you
• 4:23
  in
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  profession
• 4:24
  you
• 4:24
  dreamed
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  when
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  were
• 4:25
  a
• 4:25
  child?
• 4:26
  No,
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  dreamed
• 4:27
  of
• 4:28
  being
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  vet.
• 4:29
  I'm
• 4:29
  not
• 4:29
  far,
• 4:30
  but
• 4:30
  I.
• 4:30
  Yeah,
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  wanted
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  be
• 4:31
  a
• 4:32
  vet.
• 4:32
  Christy,
• 4:33
  what
• 4:33
  is
• 4:33
  your
• 4:33
  favourite
• 4:33
  way
• 4:33
  to
• 4:34
  waste
• 4:34
  time?
• 4:35
  I've
• 4:36
  just
• 4:37
  got
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  bit
• 4:37
  of
• 4:37
  a
• 4:38
  thing
• 4:38
  for
• 4:38
  creative,
• 4:40
  so
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  do
• 4:40
  paint
• 4:40
  by
• 4:41
  numbers.
• 4:41
  Crochet
• 4:43
  knitting.
• 4:44
  Yeah.
• 4:45
  Wow.
• 4:46
  Emily,
• 4:46
  if
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  could
• 4:47
  go
• 4:47
  back
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  any
• 4:47
  age,
• 4:48
  what
• 4:48
  age
• 4:48
  would
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  be?
• 4:50
  Loved?
• 4:51
  Late
• 4:51
  20s.
• 4:52
  Kirsty,
• 4:53
  what
• 4:54
  is
• 4:54
  one
• 4:54
  thing
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  would
• 4:55
  like
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  do
• 4:55
  in
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  next
• 4:55
  year?
• 4:56
  See
• 4:56
  this
• 4:57
  program
• 4:58
  evolve.
• 4:59
  Emily,
• 5:00
  is
• 5:00
  your
• 5:00
  bed
• 5:01
  made
• 5:01
  right
• 5:01
  now?
• 5:02
  Actually,
• 5:02
  it
• 5:03
  is
• 5:04
  in
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  caravan.
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  know.
• 5:07
  I'm
• 5:08
  surprised
• 5:08
  at
• 5:08
  myself.
• 5:09
  Sarah,
• 5:10
  you're
• 5:10
  still
• 5:10
  House
• 5:10
  Pride.
• 5:11
  No,
• 5:12
  it's.
• 5:12
  It's
• 5:12
  more.
• 5:12
  It's
• 5:13
  visible.
• 5:13
  There's
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  back
• 5:14
  window.
• 5:15
  Yeah.
• 5:15
  So
• 5:15
  it's
• 5:16
  what
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  neighbors
• 5:16
  think.
• 5:16
  That's
• 5:17
  what
• 5:17
  you're
• 5:17
  telling
• 5:17
  me.
• 5:18
  Well,
• 5:18
  ladies,
• 5:18
  thank
• 5:18
  you
• 5:19
  very
• 5:19
  much.
• 5:19
  It's
• 5:19
  just
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  bit
• 5:19
  of
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  rapid
• 5:20
  fire
• 5:20
  question
• 5:21
  round,
• 5:21
  but
• 5:21
  do
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  think
• 5:22
  as
• 5:22
  women,
• 5:23
  as
• 5:23
  females,
• 5:24
  we
• 5:25
  sometimes
• 5:25
  overthink
• 5:26
  things?
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  was
• 5:27
  just
• 5:27
  about
• 5:28
  to
• 5:28
  say,
• 5:28
  let
• 5:28
  me
• 5:28
  think
• 5:28
  about
• 5:29
  that.
• 5:31
  Do
• 5:31
  we
• 5:31
  overthink?
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  believe
• 5:34
  women
• 5:36
  prepare
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  lot,
• 5:39
  we
• 5:39
  anticipate
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  lot.
• 5:43
  So
• 5:43
  if
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  was
• 5:43
  to
• 5:44
  maybe
• 5:44
  reframe
• 5:45
  overthinking,
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  would
• 5:47
  say
• 5:47
  we,
• 5:48
  we
• 5:48
  tend
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  anticipate
• 5:50
  more
• 5:51
  as
• 5:52
  women.
• 5:53
  Yes.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  suppose
• 5:54
  what
• 5:54
  you're
• 5:55
  saying
• 5:55
  is
• 5:55
  that
• 5:56
  as
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  term
• 5:57
  it's,
• 5:57
  it's
• 5:58
  developed
• 5:58
  a
• 5:59
  negative
• 5:59
  connotation,
• 6:00
  overthinking.
• 6:00
  Yeah,
• 6:01
  potentially.
• 6:02
  Potentially.
• 6:02
  Certainly
• 6:03
  in
• 6:03
  my
• 6:03
  work.
• 6:04
  Certainly
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  term
• 6:05
  suggests
• 6:07
  too
• 6:07
  much
• 6:08
  thinking
• 6:09
  about
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  wrong
• 6:10
  things.
• 6:10
  Potentially,
• 6:11
  rather
• 6:11
  than
• 6:12
  thinking
• 6:13
  about
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  right
• 6:13
  things.
• 6:14
  Yeah.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  suppose
• 6:15
  as,
• 6:15
  as
• 6:15
  women
• 6:15
  I,
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  know,
• 6:17
  everybody's
• 6:18
  different.
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  appreciate
• 6:19
  that.
• 6:19
  But
• 6:19
  when
• 6:20
  we
• 6:20
  say
• 6:20
  overthinking,
• 6:21
  it's
• 6:21
  probably
• 6:21
  because
• 6:21
  we're
• 6:22
  trying
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  excuse
• 6:23
  ourselves,
• 6:23
  aren't
• 6:23
  we?
• 6:23
  Or,
• 6:24
  or
• 6:24
  say
• 6:24
  we're,
• 6:25
  we're
• 6:25
  self
• 6:25
  deprecating.
• 6:26
  Oh,
• 6:26
  sorry,
• 6:26
  I
• 6:27
  think
• 6:27
  too
• 6:27
  much
• 6:27
  about
• 6:27
  it
• 6:28
  or.
• 6:28
  So
• 6:28
  we're
• 6:28
  always
• 6:29
  trying
• 6:29
  to,
• 6:29
  you
• 6:30
  know,
• 6:30
  excuse
• 6:30
  sometimes
• 6:31
  how
• 6:32
  we
• 6:32
  think
• 6:32
  and
• 6:32
  how
• 6:32
  we
• 6:33
  approach
• 6:33
  things.
• 6:33
  Emily,
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  don't
• 6:34
  know
• 6:34
  if
• 6:34
  you,
• 6:35
  what
• 6:35
  your
• 6:35
  mindset
• 6:36
  is
• 6:36
  on
• 6:36
  that.
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  think
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  would
• 6:38
  just
• 6:38
  100%
• 6:39
  agree
• 6:39
  with
• 6:39
  Kirsty.
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  think
• 6:40
  there
• 6:41
  needs
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  be
• 6:41
  that
• 6:41
  clarity
• 6:42
  between
• 6:42
  overthinking
• 6:43
  and
• 6:44
  being
• 6:44
  prepared.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:45
  I'm
• 6:45
  a
• 6:46
  big
• 6:46
  one
• 6:46
  for
• 6:46
  that.
• 6:46
  Need
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  have
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  preparation
• 6:48
  to
• 6:49
  be
• 6:49
  thinking
• 6:49
  ahead.
• 6:50
  So.
• 6:52
  Yeah.
• 6:52
  Is
• 6:52
  it
• 6:52
  always
• 6:53
  overthinking?
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  don't
• 6:54
  know.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:55
  suppose
• 6:55
  it's
• 6:56
  in
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  way
• 6:56
  and
• 6:57
  for
• 6:57
  me
• 6:57
  it's
• 6:57
  just
• 6:58
  that
• 6:58
  trying
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  have
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  clarity.
• 7:01
  And
• 7:01
  maybe
• 7:01
  it
• 7:01
  also
• 7:02
  comes
• 7:02
  from
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  slight
• 7:03
  people
• 7:03
  pleasing
• 7:04
  thing
• 7:04
  that
• 7:05
  even
• 7:05
  with
• 7:06
  this
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  want
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  be
• 7:06
  prepared
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  what
• 7:07
  I
• 7:07
  want
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  say
• 7:08
  so
• 7:08
  that
• 7:09
  ideally
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  have
• 7:09
  some
• 7:10
  clarity
• 7:12
  around
• 7:12
  it.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:14
  whether
• 7:14
  or
• 7:14
  not,
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  mean,
• 7:15
  is
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  unique
• 7:15
  to
• 7:15
  women,
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  don't
• 7:16
  know,
• 7:16
  Kirsty,
• 7:17
  or
• 7:17
  no
• 7:17
  better.
• 7:17
  But
• 7:17
  I
• 7:18
  strong
• 7:18
  suspicion
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  does.
• 7:19
  That's
• 7:19
  my
• 7:19
  gut
• 7:20
  feeling
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  my
• 7:21
  gut
• 7:21
  feeling
• 7:21
  about
• 7:21
  myself
• 7:22
  as
• 7:22
  well.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  I
• 7:23
  know
• 7:23
  other
• 7:23
  women
• 7:23
  too
• 7:24
  who
• 7:24
  are
• 7:24
  very
• 7:25
  similar.
• 7:25
  Yeah,
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  see
• 7:27
  it
• 7:28
  varies.
• 7:28
  And
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  be
• 7:29
  fair,
• 7:30
  a
• 7:30
  lot
• 7:30
  more
• 7:30
  men
• 7:30
  are
• 7:31
  coming
• 7:32
  for
• 7:32
  therapy.
• 7:33
  The
• 7:33
  percentage
• 7:34
  is
• 7:35
  climbing
• 7:35
  higher.
• 7:36
  Interesting
• 7:38
  that
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  see
• 7:38
  there.
• 7:39
  We're
• 7:40
  actually
• 7:40
  psychologically
• 7:42
  and
• 7:42
  maybe
• 7:43
  even
• 7:43
  biologically
• 7:44
  pre
• 7:44
  programmed
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  try
• 7:45
  to
• 7:46
  control
• 7:46
  our
• 7:46
  lives.
• 7:48
  So
• 7:48
  anticipating,
• 7:50
  preparing
• 7:51
  it
• 7:51
  is
• 7:52
  about
• 7:52
  control.
• 7:52
  And
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  don't
• 7:53
  mean
• 7:53
  that
• 7:53
  in
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  negative
• 7:54
  way
• 7:54
  at
• 7:54
  all
• 7:55
  because
• 7:56
  control
• 7:56
  means
• 7:57
  comfort
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  we
• 7:58
  crave
• 7:58
  comfort.
• 8:00
  We
• 8:01
  try
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  avoid
• 8:02
  discomfort
• 8:04
  at
• 8:04
  all
• 8:04
  costs.
• 8:05
  So
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  need
• 8:06
  for
• 8:06
  control,
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  need
• 8:07
  for
• 8:08
  anticipating
• 8:09
  this
• 8:09
  overthinking
• 8:10
  comes
• 8:11
  from
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  need
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  avoid
• 8:14
  difficulty.
• 8:15
  Yeah.
• 8:15
  So
• 8:15
  a
• 8:15
  very
• 8:15
  simple
• 8:16
  term
• 8:16
  like
• 8:16
  overthinking
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  you've
• 8:17
  expanded
• 8:18
  it
• 8:18
  there
• 8:19
  again.
• 8:19
  There's
• 8:20
  always
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  negative
• 8:20
  connotation,
• 8:21
  isn't
• 8:21
  it,
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  be
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  being
• 8:23
  told
• 8:23
  or
• 8:23
  you're
• 8:23
  trying
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  control
• 8:24
  things
• 8:24
  too
• 8:25
  much
• 8:25
  or
• 8:26
  people
• 8:26
  often
• 8:26
  say
• 8:26
  you're
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  control
• 8:27
  freak.
• 8:28
  Doesn't
• 8:28
  ever
• 8:28
  come
• 8:29
  across
• 8:29
  as
• 8:29
  a
• 8:29
  compliment,
• 8:30
  does
• 8:30
  it?
• 8:32
  But
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  think,
• 8:33
  you
• 8:33
  know,
• 8:34
  that's
• 8:34
  great
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  that
• 8:35
  could
• 8:35
  be
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  superpower
• 8:36
  as
• 8:36
  well.
• 8:36
  The
• 8:36
  fact
• 8:36
  that
• 8:37
  you,
• 8:37
  you
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  there's
• 8:38
  reliability
• 8:39
  there.
• 8:39
  I
• 8:40
  think
• 8:40
  sometimes,
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  know,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  suppose
• 8:41
  you're
• 8:41
  flipping
• 8:42
  it,
• 8:42
  aren't
• 8:42
  you,
• 8:42
  for
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  more
• 8:43
  positive.
• 8:43
  It's
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  good
• 8:44
  question
• 8:44
  to
• 8:45
  ask
• 8:45
  yourself,
• 8:45
  to
• 8:46
  what
• 8:46
  extent
• 8:47
  am
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  trying
• 8:48
  to
• 8:48
  control
• 8:48
  everything
• 8:48
  and
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  what
• 8:49
  extent
• 8:50
  am
• 8:50
  I.
• 8:50
  Am
• 8:50
  I
• 8:51
  able
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  tolerate
• 8:52
  discomfort?
• 8:53
  Because
• 8:53
  that's
• 8:54
  what
• 8:54
  we
• 8:54
  have
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  do
• 8:54
  in
• 8:55
  life,
• 8:55
  is
• 8:55
  know
• 8:55
  that
• 8:55
  not
• 8:56
  everything
• 8:56
  is
• 8:56
  comfortable
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  we
• 8:57
  can't
• 8:57
  control
• 8:58
  everything.
• 8:59
  So
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  what
• 9:00
  extent
• 9:00
  am
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  able
• 9:00
  to
• 9:01
  tolerate
• 9:01
  it,
• 9:01
  the
• 9:02
  discomfort
• 9:02
  and
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  what
• 9:03
  extent
• 9:04
  am
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  able
• 9:04
  to
• 9:05
  control
• 9:05
  outcomes?
• 9:06
  And
• 9:07
  that.
• 9:07
  That's
• 9:07
  a
• 9:08
  rest
• 9:08
  of
• 9:08
  your
• 9:09
  life,
• 9:09
  247
• 9:10
  process.
• 9:11
  That's
• 9:11
  not.
• 9:12
  I
• 9:12
  wake
• 9:12
  up
• 9:13
  tomorrow
• 9:13
  and
• 9:13
  all
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  sudden
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  know
• 9:14
  how
• 9:14
  to
• 9:15
  manage
• 9:16
  and
• 9:16
  control
• 9:16
  my
• 9:16
  life.
• 9:17
  That's
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  lot
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  what
• 9:18
  I
• 9:19
  work
• 9:19
  with,
• 9:19
  with
• 9:20
  individuals
• 9:20
  is,
• 9:21
  is
• 9:21
  understanding
• 9:22
  that
• 9:22
  as
• 9:23
  a.
• 9:23
  As
• 9:23
  a
• 9:24
  concept
• 9:24
  that
• 9:24
  we're
• 9:25
  not,
• 9:26
  we're
• 9:26
  not
• 9:26
  here
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  be
• 9:27
  fixed.
• 9:28
  We're
• 9:28
  here
• 9:28
  to
• 9:29
  understand
• 9:29
  and
• 9:30
  to.
• 9:30
  To
• 9:30
  live
• 9:31
  and,
• 9:31
  you
• 9:32
  know,
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  guess
• 9:32
  from
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  Farmstrong
• 9:33
  perspective,
• 9:33
  live
• 9:34
  well,
• 9:35
  as
• 9:35
  well
• 9:35
  as
• 9:35
  we
• 9:35
  can.
• 9:37
  Well,
• 9:38
  Kirsty,
• 9:38
  a
• 9:38
  bit
• 9:38
  of,
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  suppose
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  bit
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  context
• 9:39
  for
• 9:39
  the
• 9:40
  listeners
• 9:40
  is
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  you're
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  founder
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  Mind
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  Mission,
• 9:42
  a
• 9:43
  mental
• 9:43
  health
• 9:43
  consultancy
• 9:44
  set
• 9:44
  up
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  improve
• 9:46
  mental
• 9:47
  fitness
• 9:47
  at
• 9:49
  workplaces
• 9:50
  through
• 9:51
  counseling
• 9:51
  and
• 9:51
  professional
• 9:52
  coaching.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:52
  obviously
• 9:53
  you've
• 9:53
  alluded
• 9:53
  to
• 9:54
  it
• 9:54
  there.
• 9:54
  So
• 9:55
  you
• 9:56
  were
• 9:56
  part
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  team
• 9:57
  that
• 9:58
  devised
• 9:59
  foms,
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  foundations
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  Mental
• 10:01
  health
• 10:01
  programme
• 10:02
  for
• 10:02
  Farm
• 10:02
  Strong.
• 10:03
  Tell
• 10:03
  me
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  bit
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  how
• 10:04
  you
• 10:04
  got
• 10:04
  involved
• 10:05
  and
• 10:05
  why
• 10:05
  you
• 10:06
  got
• 10:06
  involved.
• 10:07
  I
• 10:07
  first
• 10:07
  heard
• 10:07
  about
• 10:08
  Farmstrong
• 10:08
  Scotland
• 10:09
  almost
• 10:10
  three
• 10:10
  years
• 10:10
  ago
• 10:11
  now.
• 10:11
  I
• 10:11
  had
• 10:11
  to
• 10:11
  look
• 10:11
  back
• 10:12
  because
• 10:13
  it
• 10:13
  doesn't
• 10:14
  seem
• 10:14
  that
• 10:14
  long
• 10:14
  ago
• 10:15
  at
• 10:15
  all.
• 10:15
  One
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  participants
• 10:17
  of
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  program
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  Mind
• 10:19
  A
• 10:19
  Mission
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  involved
• 10:20
  in,
• 10:20
  in
• 10:21
  2022,
• 10:23
  be
• 10:24
  a
• 10:24
  best
• 10:24
  self
• 10:25
  program
• 10:25
  for
• 10:25
  women
• 10:26
  in
• 10:26
  agriculture.
• 10:27
  One
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  the
• 10:28
  participants
• 10:29
  got
• 10:29
  in
• 10:29
  touch
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  I
• 10:30
  think
• 10:30
  she
• 10:30
  had
• 10:31
  been
• 10:31
  involved
• 10:31
  in
• 10:31
  the
• 10:32
  initial
• 10:33
  launch
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  because
• 10:35
  she'd
• 10:35
  been
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  participant
• 10:36
  in
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  Be
• 10:36
  a
• 10:37
  Best
• 10:37
  Self
• 10:37
  program
• 10:38
  and
• 10:38
  really,
• 10:39
  really
• 10:39
  got
• 10:39
  something
• 10:40
  out
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  that,
• 10:40
  she
• 10:41
  thought
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  would
• 10:41
  be
• 10:42
  ideal
• 10:42
  to
• 10:43
  start
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  have
• 10:43
  a
• 10:43
  conversation
• 10:44
  with
• 10:45
  Farmstrong.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  at
• 10:46
  that
• 10:46
  point
• 10:47
  it
• 10:47
  was
• 10:47
  really,
• 10:47
  I
• 10:48
  think
• 10:48
  Alex
• 10:48
  had
• 10:49
  just
• 10:49
  come
• 10:49
  on
• 10:50
  board.
• 10:51
  It
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  exploratory.
• 10:52
  You
• 10:52
  know,
• 10:52
  it
• 10:52
  was
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  conversation
• 10:53
  to
• 10:54
  see
• 10:54
  if
• 10:55
  our
• 10:55
  minds
• 10:55
  were
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  same
• 10:56
  place.
• 10:57
  It
• 10:57
  turns
• 10:57
  out
• 10:58
  they
• 10:58
  were
• 10:59
  very
• 10:59
  much
• 10:59
  in
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  same
• 11:01
  place
• 11:01
  and
• 11:02
  it
• 11:02
  evolved
• 11:02
  from
• 11:03
  there.
• 11:03
  You
• 11:04
  know,
• 11:04
  Alex
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  have
• 11:05
  caught
• 11:05
  up
• 11:05
  regularly
• 11:06
  since
• 11:07
  then
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  then
• 11:08
  it
• 11:08
  was.
• 11:08
  It
• 11:08
  was
• 11:08
  last
• 11:09
  year
• 11:09
  where,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  mean,
• 11:10
  clearly
• 11:11
  Armstrong
• 11:11
  Scotland
• 11:12
  relies
• 11:12
  on
• 11:13
  funding
• 11:13
  and
• 11:14
  funding
• 11:14
  is
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  key
• 11:15
  part
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  it
• 11:16
  was
• 11:16
  only
• 11:16
  really
• 11:16
  when
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  funding
• 11:17
  was
• 11:18
  there
• 11:18
  where
• 11:18
  we
• 11:19
  able
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  put
• 11:20
  solid
• 11:20
  plans
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  place
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  really
• 11:22
  start
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  refine
• 11:22
  and
• 11:23
  understand
• 11:24
  what
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  was
• 11:24
  we
• 11:25
  wanted
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  build.
• 11:26
  And
• 11:26
  Emily,
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  know
• 11:27
  you're
• 11:27
  one
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  people
• 11:28
  who's
• 11:29
  sort
• 11:29
  of
• 11:29
  helping
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  deliver
• 11:30
  the
• 11:31
  forms
• 11:32
  program.
• 11:32
  Just
• 11:32
  tell
• 11:32
  me
• 11:33
  a
• 11:33
  little
• 11:33
  bit
• 11:33
  about
• 11:33
  how
• 11:33
  the
• 11:34
  actuality
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  that,
• 11:35
  how
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  became
• 11:36
  involved
• 11:36
  as
• 11:36
  well
• 11:36
  and
• 11:37
  what
• 11:37
  you're
• 11:37
  doing
• 11:37
  sort
• 11:37
  of
• 11:38
  on
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  basis.
• 11:39
  Yeah,
• 11:39
  it's
• 11:39
  because
• 11:40
  Alex
• 11:40
  had
• 11:41
  asked
• 11:41
  if
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  would
• 11:41
  be
• 11:42
  interested
• 11:42
  in
• 11:42
  helping
• 11:43
  and
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  suppose
• 11:44
  because
• 11:44
  it's
• 11:45
  actually
• 11:45
  quite
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  nice
• 11:46
  fit
• 11:46
  with.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:47
  do
• 11:47
  quite
• 11:47
  a
• 11:47
  bit
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  consultancy
• 11:48
  work,
• 11:48
  but
• 11:48
  also
• 11:49
  facilitation
• 11:50
  work,
• 11:50
  so
• 11:50
  working
• 11:50
  with
• 11:51
  groups
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  farmers
• 11:51
  who
• 11:52
  are
• 11:52
  looking
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  make
• 11:52
  change
• 11:53
  in
• 11:53
  their
• 11:53
  business
• 11:54
  or
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  have
• 11:54
  more
• 11:55
  sustainable
• 11:55
  businesses.
• 11:57
  So
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  one
• 11:57
  thing
• 11:58
  that
• 11:58
  we
• 11:58
  don't
• 11:58
  do
• 11:58
  probably
• 11:59
  well
• 11:59
  enough
• 12:00
  in
• 12:00
  farming
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  in
• 12:01
  what
• 12:02
  we
• 12:02
  would
• 12:02
  term
• 12:02
  as
• 12:02
  our
• 12:03
  knowledge
• 12:03
  exchange
• 12:03
  programs
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  things,
• 12:04
  is
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  we'll
• 12:05
  often
• 12:05
  talk
• 12:06
  about
• 12:06
  improving
• 12:07
  efficiency
• 12:07
  or
• 12:08
  improving
• 12:08
  production
• 12:09
  and
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  need
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  become
• 12:10
  more
• 12:11
  profitable
• 12:11
  by
• 12:12
  those
• 12:12
  things.
• 12:12
  But
• 12:13
  actually,
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  think
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  key
• 12:14
  part
• 12:15
  we've
• 12:15
  been
• 12:15
  missing
• 12:16
  is
• 12:17
  actually,
• 12:18
  you
• 12:18
  know,
• 12:18
  our
• 12:18
  farms
• 12:19
  and
• 12:19
  our
• 12:19
  cross
• 12:19
  businesses
• 12:20
  are
• 12:20
  really.
• 12:21
  They're
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  collection
• 12:21
  of
• 12:22
  assets,
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  collection
• 12:22
  of
• 12:23
  resources,
• 12:24
  and
• 12:24
  within
• 12:24
  that
• 12:25
  are
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  people
• 12:25
  who
• 12:25
  run
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  business.
• 12:27
  So
• 12:28
  successful
• 12:29
  businesses
• 12:30
  are
• 12:30
  predominantly
• 12:31
  about
• 12:31
  people,
• 12:31
  really,
• 12:32
  and
• 12:33
  how
• 12:33
  people
• 12:33
  run
• 12:33
  their
• 12:34
  businesses
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  their
• 12:36
  thought
• 12:36
  processes,
• 12:37
  their
• 12:37
  drivers,
• 12:38
  their
• 12:38
  purpose
• 12:39
  behind
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  business,
• 12:40
  all
• 12:41
  fundamentally
• 12:41
  comes
• 12:41
  from
• 12:42
  them.
• 12:42
  So
• 12:42
  it's
• 12:43
  really
• 12:43
  important
• 12:44
  and
• 12:44
  valuable
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  have
• 12:46
  a
• 12:47
  program
• 12:47
  like
• 12:47
  this
• 12:47
  that
• 12:48
  really
• 12:48
  helps
• 12:48
  people
• 12:48
  to
• 12:49
  start
• 12:49
  to
• 12:49
  think
• 12:49
  about
• 12:49
  themselves
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  bit
• 12:50
  and
• 12:51
  what
• 12:51
  they
• 12:51
  offer
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  how
• 12:53
  they
• 12:54
  cope
• 12:55
  with
• 12:55
  challenging
• 12:56
  times,
• 12:56
  because
• 12:56
  there's
• 12:56
  always
• 12:57
  challenging
• 12:57
  times
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  any
• 12:58
  business.
• 12:58
  But
• 12:59
  yeah,
• 12:59
  it's
• 12:59
  just
• 12:59
  really
• 13:00
  valuable
• 13:00
  to
• 13:01
  slot
• 13:01
  it
• 13:01
  into
• 13:02
  where
• 13:03
  we
• 13:03
  need
• 13:03
  Scottish
• 13:04
  Ag
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  be
• 13:04
  heading
• 13:05
  because
• 13:05
  it's
• 13:06
  pretty
• 13:06
  challenging
• 13:07
  out
• 13:07
  there
• 13:08
  and
• 13:08
  those
• 13:08
  challenges
• 13:09
  aren't
• 13:09
  immediately
• 13:10
  going
• 13:10
  to
• 13:10
  go
• 13:10
  away
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  just
• 13:12
  tying
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  back
• 13:12
  into
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  wellbeing.
• 13:14
  If
• 13:14
  you're
• 13:14
  in
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  positive
• 13:15
  place,
• 13:16
  you're
• 13:16
  more
• 13:16
  likely
• 13:16
  to
• 13:17
  make
• 13:17
  good
• 13:17
  decisions
• 13:18
  on
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  farm,
• 13:18
  in
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  business.
• 13:20
  Listeners
• 13:20
  will
• 13:20
  be
• 13:20
  very
• 13:21
  familiar
• 13:21
  with
• 13:21
  us
• 13:22
  talking
• 13:22
  about
• 13:23
  surveys
• 13:23
  and
• 13:24
  engaging
• 13:24
  with
• 13:24
  Farm
• 13:24
  Strong
• 13:25
  Scotland
• 13:25
  and
• 13:26
  help
• 13:26
  us
• 13:26
  by
• 13:26
  filling
• 13:27
  in
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  survey.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:28
  there's
• 13:28
  always
• 13:28
  a
• 13:28
  survey
• 13:29
  that
• 13:29
  we
• 13:29
  can
• 13:29
  fill
• 13:29
  in.
• 13:29
  Whatever
• 13:30
  we
• 13:30
  do
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  life,
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  know,
• 13:31
  there's
• 13:31
  always
• 13:31
  feedback,
• 13:31
  surveys
• 13:32
  and
• 13:32
  things,
• 13:32
  and
• 13:33
  we're
• 13:33
  always
• 13:33
  encouraged
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  do
• 13:34
  it,
• 13:34
  whatever
• 13:35
  experience
• 13:35
  we
• 13:35
  have
• 13:35
  along
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  way.
• 13:37
  And
• 13:37
  I
• 13:37
  mean,
• 13:37
  this
• 13:37
  has
• 13:37
  been
• 13:38
  very
• 13:38
  much
• 13:38
  designed
• 13:39
  sort
• 13:39
  of
• 13:39
  in
• 13:40
  response
• 13:40
  to
• 13:41
  survey
• 13:41
  findings.
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  mean,
• 13:43
  how
• 13:44
  did
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  come
• 13:44
  about
• 13:44
  and
• 13:46
  what
• 13:46
  was
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  impact
• 13:47
  of
• 13:47
  them?
• 13:48
  Farmstrong
• 13:48
  Scotland.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:49
  I'll
• 13:49
  say
• 13:49
  that
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  was
• 13:50
  previously
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  board
• 13:51
  member
• 13:51
  for
• 13:52
  Farmstrong,
• 13:53
  so
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  key
• 13:54
  part
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  that
• 13:55
  program
• 13:56
  is
• 13:56
  that
• 13:57
  what's
• 13:57
  delivered
• 13:57
  is
• 13:58
  evidence
• 13:58
  based
• 13:59
  and
• 14:00
  also
• 14:00
  what
• 14:01
  people
• 14:02
  feel
• 14:02
  that
• 14:02
  they
• 14:02
  need.
• 14:03
  So
• 14:03
  every
• 14:04
  year
• 14:04
  Farmstrong
• 14:05
  will
• 14:05
  undertake
• 14:05
  a
• 14:05
  survey.
• 14:06
  So,
• 14:06
  please,
• 14:06
  if
• 14:06
  you
• 14:07
  get
• 14:07
  asked
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  do
• 14:07
  a
• 14:07
  survey,
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  see
• 14:08
  it
• 14:08
  on
• 14:08
  socials,
• 14:10
  please
• 14:10
  do
• 14:10
  it.
• 14:10
  Because
• 14:10
  it's
• 14:10
  so
• 14:11
  valuable
• 14:11
  that
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  programme
• 14:13
  itself
• 14:13
  can
• 14:13
  be
• 14:14
  evidence
• 14:14
  informed
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  that
• 14:16
  Farmstrong
• 14:17
  are
• 14:17
  delivering
• 14:18
  really
• 14:18
  what
• 14:18
  people
• 14:19
  feel
• 14:19
  that
• 14:19
  they
• 14:19
  need
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  order
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  make
• 14:20
  a
• 14:21
  difference
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  themselves
• 14:22
  and
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  their
• 14:22
  lives.
• 14:22
  So
• 14:23
  this
• 14:23
  is
• 14:24
  where
• 14:24
  really
• 14:24
  this
• 14:24
  program
• 14:25
  came
• 14:25
  out
• 14:25
  from,
• 14:26
  was
• 14:26
  on
• 14:26
  the
• 14:27
  back
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  that
• 14:28
  research
• 14:28
  and
• 14:28
  what
• 14:28
  people
• 14:29
  felt
• 14:29
  that
• 14:29
  they
• 14:29
  thought
• 14:29
  that
• 14:30
  they
• 14:30
  needed
• 14:30
  and
• 14:31
  looking
• 14:31
  for
• 14:31
  new
• 14:31
  tools
• 14:32
  to
• 14:33
  help
• 14:34
  have
• 14:35
  better
• 14:35
  wellbeing
• 14:36
  outcomes,
• 14:36
  but
• 14:36
  also
• 14:37
  just
• 14:37
  to
• 14:37
  help
• 14:37
  business.
• 14:38
  And
• 14:38
  I
• 14:38
  think
• 14:38
  that's
• 14:39
  this
• 14:40
  real
• 14:40
  positive
• 14:40
  of
• 14:41
  Armstrong
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  where
• 14:41
  it
• 14:42
  sits
• 14:42
  quite
• 14:42
  uniquely,
• 14:43
  is
• 14:43
  that
• 14:44
  it
• 14:44
  does
• 14:45
  tie
• 14:45
  itself
• 14:45
  quite
• 14:46
  closely
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  business
• 14:47
  and
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  positive
• 14:49
  impacts
• 14:49
  that
• 14:49
  good
• 14:50
  wellbeing
• 14:50
  can
• 14:50
  have.
• 14:51
  It
• 14:51
  backs
• 14:52
  up
• 14:52
  what
• 14:52
  we
• 14:52
  also
• 14:52
  know
• 14:53
  generally
• 14:53
  across
• 14:54
  and
• 14:55
  actually
• 14:55
  across
• 14:55
  various
• 14:56
  parts
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  country
• 14:56
  and
• 14:57
  even
• 14:57
  across
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  world,
• 14:57
  is
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  wellbeing
• 14:58
  levels
• 14:58
  are
• 14:59
  lower
• 14:59
  generally
• 14:59
  in
• 14:59
  farming.
• 15:00
  It
• 15:00
  is
• 15:01
  stressful,
• 15:01
  there
• 15:02
  are
• 15:02
  challenges,
• 15:03
  so
• 15:03
  it's
• 15:03
  about
• 15:04
  helping
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  adopt
• 15:05
  that.
• 15:05
  But
• 15:05
  also,
• 15:05
  the
• 15:06
  latest
• 15:06
  research
• 15:06
  from
• 15:06
  Farm
• 15:07
  Strong
• 15:07
  also
• 15:08
  showed
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  80%
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  those
• 15:10
  people
• 15:10
  who
• 15:10
  had
• 15:11
  actually
• 15:11
  engaged
• 15:11
  with
• 15:11
  Farmstrong
• 15:12
  felt
• 15:12
  a
• 15:13
  real
• 15:13
  benefit
• 15:14
  from
• 15:14
  being
• 15:14
  whatever
• 15:15
  that
• 15:15
  engagement
• 15:15
  was.
• 15:16
  So
• 15:16
  it's
• 15:17
  just
• 15:17
  starting
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  build
• 15:18
  on
• 15:18
  what
• 15:18
  Farmstrong
• 15:19
  can
• 15:19
  deliver
• 15:19
  to
• 15:20
  really,
• 15:20
  really
• 15:20
  help
• 15:21
  people.
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  mean,
• 15:22
  Kirsty,
• 15:23
  how
• 15:23
  do
• 15:23
  you
• 15:23
  even
• 15:23
  go
• 15:23
  about
• 15:24
  building
• 15:25
  a
• 15:25
  program
• 15:25
  like
• 15:26
  that?
• 15:26
  What's
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  first
• 15:27
  step
• 15:27
  in
• 15:28
  that
• 15:28
  process?
• 15:29
  So
• 15:29
  I
• 15:30
  guess
• 15:30
  the
• 15:31
  original
• 15:32
  conversation
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  Alex
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  I
• 15:34
  had
• 15:34
  was
• 15:34
  very
• 15:34
  general.
• 15:35
  We
• 15:35
  had
• 15:35
  a
• 15:36
  walk
• 15:36
  around
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  Royal
• 15:36
  Highlands
• 15:37
  Centre
• 15:37
  and,
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  know,
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  gets
• 15:39
  your
• 15:39
  juices
• 15:40
  flowing.
• 15:40
  Anyway,
• 15:41
  we
• 15:41
  went
• 15:41
  round
• 15:41
  and
• 15:42
  round
• 15:42
  and
• 15:42
  round
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  about
• 15:43
  an
• 15:43
  hour
• 15:43
  and
• 15:44
  a
• 15:44
  half.
• 15:44
  It's
• 15:44
  great.
• 15:45
  Was
• 15:45
  that
• 15:45
  during
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  Highland
• 15:46
  show,
• 15:46
  by
• 15:46
  any
• 15:47
  chance,
• 15:47
  or
• 15:47
  just
• 15:47
  on
• 15:47
  a
• 15:47
  random.
• 15:48
  It
• 15:48
  wasn't.
• 15:49
  It
• 15:49
  wasn't.
• 15:49
  It
• 15:50
  was
• 15:50
  actually
• 15:50
  when
• 15:50
  there
• 15:50
  was
• 15:51
  nothing
• 15:51
  else
• 15:51
  there,
• 15:52
  which
• 15:52
  was
• 15:52
  incredible
• 15:52
  because
• 15:53
  I'd
• 15:54
  never
• 15:54
  been
• 15:54
  before
• 15:55
  and
• 15:55
  it
• 15:55
  was
• 15:56
  completely
• 15:56
  empty.
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  guess
• 15:57
  the
• 15:58
  conversation
• 15:58
  that
• 15:58
  Alex
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  had,
• 16:00
  from
• 16:01
  our
• 16:01
  perspective
• 16:02
  at
• 16:02
  mind
• 16:02
  and
• 16:03
  mission,
• 16:03
  understanding
• 16:05
  and
• 16:06
  protecting
• 16:06
  our
• 16:07
  mental
• 16:07
  health,
• 16:08
  isn't
• 16:09
  meant
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  be
• 16:09
  scary.
• 16:10
  It's
• 16:11
  not
• 16:11
  meant
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  be
• 16:11
  scary.
• 16:12
  It's
• 16:12
  not
• 16:12
  meant
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  be
• 16:13
  confusing.
• 16:14
  It's
• 16:14
  not
• 16:14
  meant
• 16:15
  to
• 16:15
  be
• 16:15
  difficult.
• 16:16
  And
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  our
• 16:18
  philosophy.
• 16:19
  And
• 16:19
  it
• 16:20
  turned
• 16:20
  out
• 16:20
  Alex
• 16:21
  thought
• 16:21
  similarly
• 16:22
  as
• 16:22
  well,
• 16:22
  in
• 16:23
  terms
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  how
• 16:23
  do
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  deliver
• 16:24
  something
• 16:25
  that
• 16:25
  is
• 16:26
  easy
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  understand
• 16:29
  and
• 16:29
  most
• 16:29
  important,
• 16:30
  relatable
• 16:32
  and
• 16:32
  relevant
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  everyday
• 16:33
  life.
• 16:34
  That
• 16:34
  really
• 16:35
  was
• 16:35
  the
• 16:35
  core
• 16:35
  of
• 16:36
  where
• 16:36
  we
• 16:36
  started
• 16:36
  talking
• 16:37
  about
• 16:37
  it,
• 16:38
  and
• 16:38
  also
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  build
• 16:40
  something
• 16:40
  that
• 16:40
  every
• 16:41
  participant
• 16:42
  could
• 16:43
  use
• 16:43
  in
• 16:43
  some
• 16:44
  way.
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  guess
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  key
• 16:46
  for
• 16:46
  me
• 16:46
  was,
• 16:47
  and
• 16:47
  this
• 16:47
  might
• 16:48
  sound
• 16:48
  controversial,
• 16:50
  it
• 16:50
  didn't
• 16:51
  start
• 16:51
  with
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  focus
• 16:51
  on
• 16:52
  farming.
• 16:53
  So
• 16:54
  although
• 16:54
  Alex
• 16:55
  and
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  had
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  very
• 16:55
  long
• 16:56
  conversation
• 16:56
  around
• 16:58
  farming,
• 16:58
  around,
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  know,
• 16:59
  everything
• 17:00
  that
• 17:00
  Emily
• 17:00
  has
• 17:01
  described
• 17:01
  there
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  comes
• 17:03
  out
• 17:03
  of
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  survey,
• 17:04
  it
• 17:05
  always
• 17:05
  starts
• 17:05
  with
• 17:06
  people.
• 17:06
  It
• 17:07
  starts
• 17:07
  with
• 17:07
  individuals.
• 17:09
  Psychologically,
• 17:10
  we
• 17:11
  respond
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  discomfort.
• 17:13
  We
• 17:13
  respond
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  difficulty.
• 17:16
  In
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  same
• 17:16
  way,
• 17:17
  regardless
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  industry
• 17:19
  we
• 17:19
  work
• 17:19
  in,
• 17:19
  regardless
• 17:20
  of
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  external
• 17:22
  or
• 17:23
  internal
• 17:23
  pressures
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  we
• 17:25
  have,
• 17:26
  what
• 17:26
  we
• 17:27
  demonstrate
• 17:27
  as
• 17:27
  an
• 17:28
  organization
• 17:28
  is
• 17:29
  that
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  core
• 17:30
  learning
• 17:32
  starts
• 17:32
  with
• 17:32
  the
• 17:33
  individual,
• 17:33
  is
• 17:34
  about
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  individual
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  evolution
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  comes
• 17:37
  afterwards.
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  mean,
• 17:39
  we
• 17:39
  had
• 17:39
  three,
• 17:39
  three
• 17:40
  iterations
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  program.
• 17:42
  So
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  first
• 17:42
  core
• 17:43
  part
• 17:43
  was
• 17:44
  around
• 17:44
  what
• 17:45
  is
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  core
• 17:45
  learning
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  everyone
• 17:46
  needs
• 17:46
  to
• 17:47
  be
• 17:47
  able
• 17:47
  to
• 17:48
  relate
• 17:48
  to?
• 17:49
  So
• 17:50
  that
• 17:50
  was
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  core
• 17:50
  part.
• 17:50
  We
• 17:51
  then.
• 17:51
  We
• 17:52
  had
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  base
• 17:52
  program.
• 17:53
  We
• 17:54
  then
• 17:54
  had
• 17:54
  a
• 17:55
  practice
• 17:55
  session
• 17:56
  with
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  couple
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  the
• 17:57
  board
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  Alex
• 17:58
  and
• 17:58
  other
• 17:59
  people,
• 17:59
  and
• 18:00
  we
• 18:00
  started
• 18:00
  tailoring
• 18:01
  from
• 18:01
  there
• 18:02
  so
• 18:02
  we
• 18:03
  have
• 18:03
  our
• 18:03
  core
• 18:03
  program.
• 18:04
  How
• 18:04
  do
• 18:05
  we
• 18:05
  then
• 18:05
  start
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  infuse
• 18:07
  all
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  our
• 18:08
  understanding
• 18:08
  around
• 18:09
  farming,
• 18:10
  crafting,
• 18:10
  the
• 18:11
  industry,
• 18:11
  the
• 18:12
  struggles,
• 18:13
  what
• 18:13
  people
• 18:13
  are
• 18:13
  going
• 18:14
  through,
• 18:14
  and
• 18:14
  start
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  factor
• 18:15
  that
• 18:16
  in?
• 18:16
  We
• 18:16
  then
• 18:17
  had
• 18:17
  a
• 18:18
  pilot,
• 18:18
  which
• 18:18
  Emily
• 18:19
  was
• 18:20
  as
• 18:20
  well,
• 18:20
  and
• 18:21
  that
• 18:21
  was
• 18:21
  then
• 18:22
  we
• 18:22
  further
• 18:22
  refined.
• 18:24
  We
• 18:24
  sort
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  sliced
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  diced
• 18:26
  it,
• 18:26
  added
• 18:26
  some
• 18:27
  parts
• 18:27
  together
• 18:27
  and
• 18:28
  changed
• 18:29
  it
• 18:29
  up
• 18:29
  again.
• 18:29
  So
• 18:29
  we
• 18:30
  were
• 18:30
  sort
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  three
• 18:31
  iterations
• 18:31
  in.
• 18:32
  And
• 18:32
  that's
• 18:33
  when
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  tailoring
• 18:33
  then
• 18:34
  and
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  layering
• 18:35
  of
• 18:36
  all
• 18:36
  of
• 18:36
  the
• 18:36
  examples
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  everything
• 18:38
  that
• 18:38
  we
• 18:38
  understand
• 18:39
  is
• 18:40
  difficult
• 18:40
  or
• 18:40
  challenging
• 18:41
  about
• 18:41
  farming
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  crofting
• 18:43
  that
• 18:43
  was
• 18:44
  layered
• 18:44
  into
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  program.
• 18:45
  So
• 18:46
  it
• 18:46
  doesn't
• 18:46
  start
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  industry
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  farming
• 18:49
  and
• 18:49
  crafting
• 18:49
  per
• 18:50
  se,
• 18:50
  but
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  result
• 18:51
  is
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  layering
• 18:52
  and
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  sort
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  dovetailing.
• 18:55
  All
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  in
• 18:56
  happens
• 18:56
  through
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  final
• 18:57
  iterations.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  think
• 18:59
  what
• 18:59
  we
• 19:00
  came
• 19:01
  up
• 19:01
  with
• 19:01
  was
• 19:01
  something
• 19:02
  really
• 19:03
  highly
• 19:03
  relatable
• 19:04
  to
• 19:05
  everyone.
• 19:06
  And
• 19:07
  Emily,
• 19:07
  tell
• 19:07
  me
• 19:08
  about
• 19:08
  your
• 19:08
  involvement
• 19:08
  in
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  pilot.
• 19:09
  That
• 19:10
  was
• 19:10
  more.
• 19:10
  It
• 19:10
  was
• 19:10
  having
• 19:11
  a
• 19:11
  day
• 19:11
  with
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  Farmstrong
• 19:13
  team
• 19:13
  and
• 19:13
  with
• 19:13
  Kirsty
• 19:14
  and
• 19:14
  just
• 19:14
  really
• 19:14
  going
• 19:15
  through.
• 19:15
  Through
• 19:15
  about
• 19:15
  how
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  deliver
• 19:17
  these
• 19:17
  things
• 19:17
  and
• 19:18
  as
• 19:18
  Kirsty
• 19:19
  says
• 19:19
  as
• 19:19
  well,
• 19:19
  just
• 19:20
  making
• 19:20
  it
• 19:20
  relevant.
• 19:20
  It's
• 19:21
  really
• 19:21
  important.
• 19:22
  If
• 19:22
  we
• 19:22
  were
• 19:22
  to
• 19:22
  advertise
• 19:23
  this
• 19:23
  as
• 19:23
  A
• 19:24
  specific
• 19:24
  meeting
• 19:24
  without
• 19:25
  it
• 19:25
  being
• 19:26
  really
• 19:26
  well
• 19:26
  tailored.
• 19:27
  It's
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  kind
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  thing
• 19:28
  that
• 19:29
  might
• 19:29
  need
• 19:29
  a
• 19:29
  little
• 19:30
  bit
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  a
• 19:30
  push
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  get
• 19:31
  farmers
• 19:31
  to
• 19:31
  attend
• 19:32
  as
• 19:32
  a
• 19:33
  standalone
• 19:33
  unit.
• 19:33
  Although
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  would
• 19:34
  say
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  obviously
• 19:35
  since
• 19:35
  Farmstrong's
• 19:36
  been
• 19:36
  around
• 19:36
  and
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  think
• 19:37
  it's
• 19:37
  much
• 19:38
  easier
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  people
• 19:38
  are
• 19:39
  more
• 19:39
  open,
• 19:39
  are
• 19:39
  talking
• 19:40
  about
• 19:41
  themselves
• 19:41
  and
• 19:41
  their
• 19:41
  wellbeing,
• 19:42
  but
• 19:42
  it's
• 19:43
  so
• 19:43
  important.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:44
  that's
• 19:44
  what
• 19:44
  even
• 19:44
  early
• 19:45
  research
• 19:45
  in
• 19:45
  Farmstrong
• 19:46
  showed
• 19:47
  that,
• 19:47
  you
• 19:48
  know,
• 19:48
  people
• 19:48
  have
• 19:48
  to
• 19:48
  see
• 19:49
  that
• 19:49
  it's
• 19:49
  relevant
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  their
• 19:50
  day
• 19:50
  to
• 19:51
  day.
• 19:51
  Because
• 19:51
  I'm
• 19:52
  sure
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  some
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  Kirsty's
• 19:53
  work
• 19:53
  will
• 19:53
  be
• 19:54
  covering
• 19:54
  other
• 19:54
  kinds
• 19:54
  of
• 19:55
  businesses
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  it
• 19:55
  might
• 19:55
  be,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:56
  know,
• 19:56
  if
• 19:56
  you're
• 19:56
  feeling
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  bit
• 19:57
  under
• 19:57
  stress,
• 19:57
  take
• 19:57
  a
• 19:58
  walk
• 19:58
  at
• 19:58
  lunchtime,
• 19:59
  switch
• 19:59
  off
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  emails
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  they're
• 20:00
  just
• 20:01
  not
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  kind
• 20:02
  of
• 20:02
  little
• 20:02
  bits
• 20:02
  of
• 20:02
  advice
• 20:03
  or
• 20:03
  pointers
• 20:04
  that
• 20:04
  are
• 20:05
  really
• 20:05
  relevant
• 20:05
  to
• 20:05
  farming.
• 20:06
  And
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  think
• 20:06
  because
• 20:07
  farming
• 20:07
  is
• 20:07
  so
• 20:08
  unique
• 20:08
  and
• 20:09
  also
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  suppose
• 20:10
  we
• 20:10
  often
• 20:10
  work
• 20:10
  with,
• 20:10
  with
• 20:11
  families
• 20:11
  rather
• 20:12
  than
• 20:12
  colleague
• 20:13
  and
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  tailor
• 20:15
  it
• 20:15
  just
• 20:15
  gives
• 20:15
  it
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  relevance,
• 20:16
  which
• 20:17
  means
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  people
• 20:17
  will
• 20:17
  take
• 20:18
  so
• 20:18
  much
• 20:18
  more
• 20:18
  away
• 20:19
  from
• 20:19
  it.
• 20:20
  So
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  was
• 20:21
  really
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  purpose
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  that
• 20:21
  pilot,
• 20:22
  as
• 20:22
  Kirsty
• 20:23
  suggests,
• 20:23
  is
• 20:23
  just
• 20:23
  really
• 20:23
  finessing
• 20:24
  it
• 20:24
  so
• 20:25
  that
• 20:25
  can
• 20:26
  get
• 20:26
  it
• 20:26
  as
• 20:26
  good
• 20:26
  as
• 20:26
  possible.
• 20:28
  And
• 20:28
  given
• 20:29
  your
• 20:29
  business,
• 20:29
  your
• 20:29
  line
• 20:30
  of
• 20:30
  work,
• 20:30
  Emily,
• 20:31
  what
• 20:32
  changes
• 20:32
  have
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  noticed
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  people's
• 20:35
  farmers,
• 20:35
  crofters,
• 20:36
  people
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  work
• 20:38
  in
• 20:38
  that
• 20:38
  sector,
• 20:39
  openness
• 20:40
  to
• 20:41
  engaging
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  this
• 20:42
  subject?
• 20:43
  Yeah,
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  think
• 20:44
  there's
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  real
• 20:44
  change
• 20:45
  now.
• 20:45
  I
• 20:46
  think,
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  suppose
• 20:47
  there's
• 20:47
  this
• 20:47
  recognition
• 20:48
  that
• 20:48
  we
• 20:49
  need
• 20:49
  to
• 20:49
  acknowledge
• 20:49
  it,
• 20:50
  that
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  know,
• 20:51
  we
• 20:51
  need
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  look
• 20:52
  after
• 20:52
  our
• 20:53
  well
• 20:53
  being
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  you
• 20:55
  know,
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  be
• 20:55
  applauded
• 20:56
  industry
• 20:56
  wide,
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  it
• 20:58
  is
• 20:58
  good
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  talk
• 20:58
  about
• 20:59
  it,
• 20:59
  it's
• 20:59
  okay
• 20:59
  to
• 21:00
  talk
• 21:00
  about
• 21:00
  it,
• 21:00
  it's
• 21:01
  okay
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  be
• 21:01
  in
• 21:01
  challenging
• 21:02
  times,
• 21:02
  it's
• 21:02
  okay
• 21:03
  to
• 21:04
  go
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  log
• 21:05
  on
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  Farmstrung
• 21:06
  website
• 21:06
  and
• 21:06
  just
• 21:06
  have
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  look
• 21:07
  at
• 21:07
  tips.
• 21:07
  And
• 21:08
  you
• 21:08
  know,
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  was
• 21:08
  just
• 21:09
  speaking
• 21:09
  to
• 21:10
  somebody
• 21:10
  the
• 21:11
  other
• 21:11
  day
• 21:11
  who
• 21:11
  said,
• 21:11
  yeah,
• 21:12
  just
• 21:12
  end
• 21:12
  of
• 21:12
  lambing
• 21:13
  was
• 21:13
  just
• 21:13
  really
• 21:13
  struggling
• 21:14
  but
• 21:14
  she
• 21:15
  loved.
• 21:15
  It
• 21:15
  was
• 21:15
  actually
• 21:16
  Jock
• 21:16
  Gibson's
• 21:17
  blog
• 21:18
  about
• 21:18
  it
• 21:18
  and
• 21:18
  she
• 21:18
  said
• 21:19
  it
• 21:19
  just
• 21:19
  hit
• 21:20
  a
• 21:20
  chord
• 21:20
  because
• 21:21
  she
• 21:21
  felt
• 21:21
  exactly
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  same
• 21:22
  way.
• 21:22
  So
• 21:23
  it's
• 21:24
  just
• 21:24
  really
• 21:25
  good
• 21:25
  to
• 21:25
  have
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  industry
• 21:27
  recognizing
• 21:28
  that,
• 21:28
  you
• 21:28
  know,
• 21:28
  if
• 21:29
  we
• 21:29
  talk
• 21:29
  about
• 21:29
  it,
• 21:29
  we're
• 21:30
  more
• 21:30
  aware
• 21:30
  of
• 21:30
  it,
• 21:31
  we
• 21:31
  can
• 21:31
  lose
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  stigma
• 21:32
  basically
• 21:33
  about
• 21:34
  talking
• 21:34
  about
• 21:34
  wellbeing
• 21:36
  and
• 21:36
  you.
• 21:36
  Know,
• 21:37
  what
• 21:37
  do
• 21:37
  organisations
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  groups
• 21:39
  need
• 21:39
  to
• 21:40
  do
• 21:40
  if
• 21:40
  they
• 21:40
  want
• 21:41
  to
• 21:41
  register
• 21:42
  their
• 21:42
  interest,
• 21:42
  if
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  want
• 21:43
  to
• 21:43
  take
• 21:44
  part
• 21:44
  in
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  program,
• 21:45
  there's
• 21:46
  a
• 21:46
  place.
• 21:46
  On
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  website
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  go
• 21:47
  and
• 21:47
  register
• 21:48
  interest.
• 21:48
  And
• 21:49
  I
• 21:49
  think
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  Farmstrong
• 21:50
  team
• 21:50
  are
• 21:51
  active
• 21:51
  trying
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  get
• 21:52
  this
• 21:52
  out.
• 21:52
  And
• 21:53
  as
• 21:53
  I
• 21:53
  said
• 21:53
  it
• 21:53
  actually
• 21:53
  fits
• 21:54
  quite
• 21:54
  nicely
• 21:54
  into
• 21:55
  whether
• 21:55
  there's
• 21:56
  existing
• 21:56
  meetings
• 21:56
  or
• 21:57
  discussion
• 21:57
  groups
• 21:58
  or
• 21:58
  even
• 21:58
  things
• 21:59
  like
• 21:59
  monitor
• 21:59
  farms
• 21:59
  where
• 22:00
  there's
• 22:00
  already
• 22:00
  groupings
• 22:00
  of
• 22:01
  farmers
• 22:01
  coming
• 22:01
  together,
• 22:02
  all
• 22:02
  crofters
• 22:03
  coming
• 22:03
  together
• 22:03
  because
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  can
• 22:05
  take
• 22:05
  pieces
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  the
• 22:06
  program
• 22:06
  out,
• 22:07
  you
• 22:07
  know.
• 22:07
  So
• 22:07
  if
• 22:08
  there
• 22:08
  is
• 22:08
  only
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  short
• 22:08
  period
• 22:09
  of
• 22:09
  time
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  be
• 22:09
  allocated
• 22:10
  within
• 22:10
  other
• 22:11
  meetings
• 22:11
  then
• 22:12
  can
• 22:12
  just
• 22:12
  focus
• 22:12
  on
• 22:13
  one
• 22:13
  or
• 22:13
  two
• 22:13
  things
• 22:13
  or
• 22:13
  make
• 22:14
  it
• 22:14
  wider
• 22:14
  as,
• 22:15
  as
• 22:15
  and
• 22:16
  when
• 22:16
  people
• 22:16
  require.
• 22:17
  So
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  think
• 22:17
  if
• 22:17
  anybody
• 22:18
  out
• 22:18
  there
• 22:19
  is
• 22:19
  keen
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  even
• 22:21
  just
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  find
• 22:21
  out
• 22:21
  more
• 22:22
  but
• 22:22
  just
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  see
• 22:22
  if
• 22:23
  or
• 22:23
  if
• 22:23
  they
• 22:24
  are
• 22:24
  part
• 22:24
  of
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  group
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  maybe
• 22:25
  would.
• 22:26
  Would
• 22:26
  love
• 22:26
  to.
• 22:26
  To
• 22:27
  have
• 22:27
  a
• 22:27
  go
• 22:27
  is
• 22:27
  just
• 22:28
  get
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  touch
• 22:28
  with.
• 22:28
  With
• 22:28
  the
• 22:29
  farmstrong
• 22:29
  team
• 22:29
  and
• 22:29
  go
• 22:30
  onto
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  website.
• 22:30
  Website
• 22:30
  first
• 22:31
  will
• 22:31
  be
• 22:31
  best
• 22:31
  way
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  find
• 22:32
  out
• 22:33
  more.
• 22:34
  Thanks
• 22:34
  Emily.
• 22:34
  It's
• 22:35
  maybe
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  wrong
• 22:35
  time
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  ask
• 22:36
  but
• 22:36
  given
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  fact
• 22:37
  that
• 22:37
  you've
• 22:38
  moved,
• 22:39
  you're
• 22:40
  living
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  a
• 22:40
  static
• 22:40
  caravan,
• 22:41
  you're
• 22:42
  building
• 22:42
  a
• 22:42
  house,
• 22:43
  how
• 22:43
  happy
• 22:43
  are
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  at
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  moment?
• 22:44
  I
• 22:45
  mean
• 22:45
  have
• 22:45
  you
• 22:45
  had
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  barometer?
• 22:46
  Where
• 22:47
  are
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  in
• 22:47
  this
• 22:47
  sort
• 22:47
  of
• 22:48
  well
• 22:48
  being
• 22:48
  barometer?
• 22:49
  Yeah,
• 22:50
  well,
• 22:50
  being
• 22:50
  barometer
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  pretty
• 22:51
  good.
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  think
• 22:52
  7,
• 22:53
  8
• 22:53
  out
• 22:53
  of
• 22:53
  10
• 22:54
  making
• 22:55
  this
• 22:55
  change
• 22:56
  and
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  think
• 22:56
  making
• 22:56
  any
• 22:57
  change
• 22:57
  is.
• 22:58
  Is
• 22:58
  challenging
• 22:59
  whatever
• 22:59
  that
• 22:59
  change
• 23:00
  looks
• 23:00
  like.
• 23:01
  And,
• 23:01
  and
• 23:01
  in
• 23:01
  a
• 23:01
  way
• 23:01
  this
• 23:02
  is
• 23:02
  kind
• 23:02
  of
• 23:02
  as
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  business
• 23:02
  but
• 23:03
  it's
• 23:03
  also
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  personal
• 23:03
  change
• 23:04
  and
• 23:05
  I've
• 23:06
  spoken
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  groups
• 23:07
  about
• 23:07
  change
• 23:07
  management.
• 23:08
  So
• 23:09
  I've
• 23:09
  been
• 23:09
  on
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  other
• 23:09
  side
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  saying
• 23:10
  like
• 23:10
  look,
• 23:11
  if
• 23:11
  you're
• 23:11
  making
• 23:11
  change
• 23:12
  you
• 23:12
  need
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  have
• 23:12
  clarity
• 23:13
  about
• 23:13
  what
• 23:13
  that
• 23:13
  change
• 23:14
  is.
• 23:14
  You
• 23:14
  need
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  plan
• 23:14
  it
• 23:15
  a
• 23:15
  bit,
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  need
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  be
• 23:16
  prepared
• 23:16
  for.
• 23:16
  You
• 23:17
  know,
• 23:17
  we've
• 23:17
  got
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  chart
• 23:17
  of.
• 23:18
  It's
• 23:18
  like
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  roller
• 23:18
  coaster
• 23:19
  of
• 23:19
  where
• 23:19
  you
• 23:19
  think
• 23:20
  you're
• 23:20
  making.
• 23:20
  Yeah,
• 23:20
  we're
• 23:21
  doing
• 23:21
  really,
• 23:21
  really
• 23:21
  well.
• 23:21
  Then
• 23:22
  boom,
• 23:22
  something
• 23:22
  happens
• 23:23
  and
• 23:23
  you
• 23:23
  kind
• 23:23
  of
• 23:23
  go,
• 23:23
  yeah,
• 23:24
  not
• 23:24
  going
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  plan.
• 23:25
  We
• 23:25
  need
• 23:25
  to
• 23:25
  regroup.
• 23:26
  Where
• 23:26
  are
• 23:26
  we?
• 23:27
  And
• 23:27
  to
• 23:27
  be
• 23:27
  fair
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  probably
• 23:28
  sums
• 23:29
  up
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  last.
• 23:30
  I
• 23:31
  mean
• 23:31
  when
• 23:31
  we
• 23:31
  actually
• 23:32
  bought
• 23:32
  this
• 23:33
  place
• 23:33
  late
• 23:34
  summer.
• 23:34
  But
• 23:35
  there
• 23:35
  are
• 23:35
  so
• 23:35
  many
• 23:36
  plates
• 23:36
  spinning
• 23:37
  so
• 23:37
  it
• 23:37
  feels
• 23:37
  like
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  very
• 23:38
  different
• 23:38
  part
• 23:38
  of
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  business.
• 23:39
  Whereas
• 23:39
  previously
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  was
• 23:40
  livestock,
• 23:41
  sheep
• 23:41
  and
• 23:42
  dealing
• 23:42
  that
• 23:43
  on
• 23:43
  a
• 23:43
  day
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  day.
• 23:43
  So
• 23:44
  yeah,
• 23:44
  there
• 23:44
  are
• 23:44
  lots
• 23:45
  of
• 23:45
  plates
• 23:45
  spinning
• 23:46
  but
• 23:46
  eyes
• 23:47
  on
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  prize.
• 23:48
  The
• 23:48
  goal
• 23:49
  is
• 23:49
  what
• 23:50
  keeps
• 23:51
  you
• 23:51
  going
• 23:52
  because
• 23:52
  it's
• 23:52
  like
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  said,
• 23:53
  honestly
• 23:54
  I
• 23:54
  pinch
• 23:54
  myself
• 23:55
  every
• 23:55
  day.
• 23:55
  Where
• 23:55
  we
• 23:56
  are
• 23:56
  is
• 23:56
  stunningly
• 23:57
  beautiful
• 23:58
  and
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  opportunity
• 23:59
  that
• 24:00
  we
• 24:00
  have
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  build
• 24:00
  a
• 24:01
  house
• 24:01
  is
• 24:02
  huge.
• 24:02
  It's
• 24:03
  amazing.
• 24:03
  So
• 24:03
  eyes
• 24:04
  on
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  prize.
• 24:04
  It's
• 24:04
  definitely
• 24:05
  what
• 24:05
  keeps
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  going.
• 24:06
  But
• 24:06
  I'm
• 24:06
  just
• 24:06
  wondering
• 24:07
  if
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  how
• 24:07
  much
• 24:08
  thought
• 24:08
  Consideration.
• 24:09
  Do
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  give
• 24:11
  daily
• 24:11
  to
• 24:12
  your
• 24:12
  mental,
• 24:12
  emotional
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  physical
• 24:14
  well
• 24:14
  being?
• 24:14
  Is
• 24:14
  there
• 24:14
  something,
• 24:15
  do
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  have
• 24:16
  habits?
• 24:16
  Is
• 24:16
  there
• 24:17
  something
• 24:17
  you
• 24:17
  do
• 24:18
  every
• 24:18
  day?
• 24:18
  Just
• 24:18
  to
• 24:19
  know
• 24:19
  I've
• 24:19
  done
• 24:19
  that,
• 24:19
  that
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  know
• 24:20
  that
• 24:20
  when
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  do
• 24:21
  that
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  feel
• 24:21
  so
• 24:22
  much
• 24:22
  better.
• 24:22
  You
• 24:23
  know,
• 24:23
  it's
• 24:23
  funny
• 24:24
  because
• 24:24
  one
• 24:24
  of
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  big
• 24:24
  things
• 24:24
  for
• 24:24
  me
• 24:25
  is
• 24:25
  just,
• 24:25
  just
• 24:25
  walking
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  dogs.
• 24:26
  So
• 24:27
  they're
• 24:27
  slightly
• 24:27
  redundant
• 24:28
  at
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  moment
• 24:28
  because
• 24:29
  we've
• 24:29
  no
• 24:29
  stalk
• 24:29
  at
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  moment,
• 24:30
  but
• 24:30
  two
• 24:31
  lovely
• 24:31
  sheepdogs.
• 24:32
  And
• 24:32
  just
• 24:33
  even
• 24:33
  doing
• 24:33
  that,
• 24:34
  just
• 24:34
  taking
• 24:34
  that
• 24:34
  time,
• 24:35
  time
• 24:36
  and
• 24:36
  again
• 24:36
  in
• 24:36
  the.
• 24:36
  Podcast,
• 24:37
  when
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  ask
• 24:37
  that
• 24:37
  question,
• 24:38
  it
• 24:38
  is
• 24:38
  often
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  simple
• 24:39
  acts
• 24:39
  that
• 24:39
  people
• 24:40
  get
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  most
• 24:40
  pleasure
• 24:41
  from.
• 24:41
  So
• 24:42
  a
• 24:42
  walk
• 24:42
  on
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  beach,
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  walk
• 24:43
  with
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  dog,
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  it's,
• 24:45
  it's,
• 24:45
  it's
• 24:46
  invariably
• 24:46
  not
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  big
• 24:47
  things
• 24:48
  that
• 24:48
  you
• 24:48
  might
• 24:48
  think
• 24:49
  people
• 24:49
  need
• 24:49
  to
• 24:49
  do
• 24:50
  every
• 24:50
  day
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  make
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  difference.
• 24:52
  Yeah.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:52
  I
• 24:53
  guess,
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  know,
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  love
• 24:54
  listening
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  Emily.
• 24:56
  She's
• 24:56
  just
• 24:56
  so
• 24:56
  positive
• 24:57
  and
• 24:58
  it's
• 24:58
  amazing
• 24:59
  to
• 24:59
  listen
• 25:00
  and
• 25:00
  I
• 25:00
  just
• 25:00
  love
• 25:00
  when
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  just
• 25:01
  eyes
• 25:01
  on
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  prize,
• 25:02
  thinking
• 25:03
  about
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  goal.
• 25:04
  And
• 25:04
  I'm
• 25:04
  thinking
• 25:04
  it's
• 25:05
  almost
• 25:05
  like
• 25:05
  you've
• 25:05
  done
• 25:06
  the
• 25:06
  program,
• 25:07
  Emily.
• 25:09
  Yeah,
• 25:09
  for
• 25:10
  me,
• 25:10
  I
• 25:10
  was
• 25:10
  thinking
• 25:11
  about
• 25:11
  what
• 25:11
  Emily
• 25:12
  was
• 25:12
  describing
• 25:12
  there
• 25:13
  and
• 25:13
  I
• 25:13
  was
• 25:13
  thinking,
• 25:13
  oh,
• 25:14
  what
• 25:14
  do
• 25:15
  I
• 25:15
  do?
• 25:16
  And
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  think
• 25:17
  about
• 25:19
  what
• 25:19
  I
• 25:19
  give
• 25:19
  myself
• 25:20
  permission
• 25:21
  for.
• 25:22
  So
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  give
• 25:22
  myself
• 25:23
  permission
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  stop.
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  give
• 25:25
  myself
• 25:25
  permission.
• 25:25
  If
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  have
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  high
• 25:26
  client
• 25:27
  load,
• 25:27
  I
• 25:28
  know
• 25:28
  that
• 25:28
  evening
• 25:29
  it's
• 25:29
  going
• 25:29
  to
• 25:30
  be
• 25:30
  tough
• 25:30
  because
• 25:30
  I've
• 25:31
  got
• 25:31
  a
• 25:31
  lot
• 25:31
  on
• 25:31
  my
• 25:31
  shoulders
• 25:32
  and
• 25:32
  I've
• 25:32
  got
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  lot
• 25:33
  to
• 25:33
  process
• 25:33
  and
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  probably
• 25:34
  need
• 25:34
  a
• 25:35
  little
• 25:35
  bit
• 25:35
  of
• 25:35
  supervision
• 25:36
  to
• 25:37
  be
• 25:37
  able
• 25:37
  to
• 25:38
  work
• 25:38
  it
• 25:38
  through.
• 25:39
  So
• 25:40
  it's
• 25:40
  just,
• 25:40
  it's
• 25:40
  about
• 25:40
  giving
• 25:41
  myself
• 25:41
  permission
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  not
• 25:42
  have
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  be
• 25:44
  110%
• 25:45
  on
• 25:45
  it
• 25:45
  every
• 25:46
  single
• 25:46
  minute
• 25:46
  of
• 25:46
  every
• 25:47
  single
• 25:47
  day.
• 25:47
  And
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  find
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  really
• 25:49
  helps
• 25:49
  is
• 25:49
  just
• 25:50
  going,
• 25:50
  it's
• 25:50
  okay.
• 25:52
  You're
• 25:52
  not
• 25:52
  feeling
• 25:52
  it
• 25:53
  right
• 25:53
  now.
• 25:53
  That's
• 25:53
  all
• 25:53
  right.
• 25:54
  You
• 25:54
  can
• 25:54
  sit
• 25:54
  down
• 25:54
  and
• 25:55
  you
• 25:55
  can
• 25:55
  not
• 25:55
  do
• 25:55
  something
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  you
• 25:57
  don't
• 25:57
  have
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  feel
• 25:57
  any
• 25:57
  guilt
• 25:58
  or
• 25:58
  shame
• 25:58
  about
• 25:58
  that.
• 25:59
  So
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  find
• 26:00
  that
• 26:00
  really
• 26:01
  works.
• 26:02
  And
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  like
• 26:02
  when
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  said
• 26:03
  there
• 26:03
  about
• 26:05
  it
• 26:05
  feels
• 26:05
  clear.
• 26:06
  It's
• 26:06
  simple
• 26:06
  things.
• 26:07
  And
• 26:08
  that
• 26:08
  is
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  point
• 26:09
  about
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  program
• 26:09
  as
• 26:10
  well.
• 26:11
  This
• 26:11
  is
• 26:11
  not
• 26:11
  about
• 26:11
  making
• 26:12
  it
• 26:12
  complicated
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  making
• 26:13
  it
• 26:14
  difficult
• 26:14
  to
• 26:15
  understand
• 26:15
  or
• 26:16
  making
• 26:17
  it
• 26:17
  inaccessible.
• 26:18
  It
• 26:18
  is
• 26:18
  about
• 26:18
  being
• 26:19
  able
• 26:19
  to
• 26:20
  show
• 26:20
  people
• 26:21
  who
• 26:21
  they
• 26:21
  are
• 26:21
  at
• 26:22
  their
• 26:22
  core
• 26:22
  and
• 26:23
  help
• 26:23
  them
• 26:23
  go.
• 26:24
  That's
• 26:25
  why
• 26:25
  I've
• 26:25
  done
• 26:26
  that
• 26:26
  all
• 26:26
  my
• 26:26
  life.
• 26:27
  That's
• 26:28
  why
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  respond
• 26:28
  in
• 26:29
  that
• 26:29
  way
• 26:30
  that
• 26:30
  makes
• 26:30
  so
• 26:31
  much
• 26:31
  sense
• 26:32
  now.
• 26:32
  I
• 26:33
  can
• 26:33
  think
• 26:33
  slightly
• 26:34
  differently.
• 26:34
  I
• 26:35
  don't
• 26:35
  feel
• 26:35
  that
• 26:36
  there's
• 26:36
  this
• 26:36
  weight
• 26:36
  on
• 26:37
  my
• 26:37
  shoulders
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  don't
• 26:38
  feel
• 26:39
  as
• 26:39
  heavy
• 26:39
  or
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  decision
• 26:40
  wasn't
• 26:41
  as
• 26:41
  difficult
• 26:41
  because
• 26:41
  I
• 26:42
  just.
• 26:42
  I
• 26:43
  know
• 26:43
  something
• 26:43
  different
• 26:44
  now.
• 26:44
  And
• 26:45
  that's
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  point.
• 26:45
  It's
• 26:46
  simplicity
• 26:47
  at
• 26:47
  its
• 26:48
  best.
• 26:49
  It's
• 26:49
  helping
• 26:50
  people
• 26:50
  know
• 26:50
  that.
• 26:51
  I'm
• 26:51
  sure
• 26:52
  it
• 26:52
  doesn't
• 26:52
  matter
• 26:53
  at
• 26:53
  what
• 26:53
  stage
• 26:53
  in
• 26:54
  life
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  you
• 26:54
  do
• 26:55
  know
• 26:56
  that,
• 26:56
  Kirsty,
• 26:57
  But
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  suppose
• 26:57
  a
• 26:58
  lot
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  contributors
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  speak
• 27:00
  to
• 27:00
  tend
• 27:00
  to
• 27:01
  be
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  an
• 27:01
  age
• 27:02
  where
• 27:02
  they're
• 27:03
  reflecting.
• 27:04
  And
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  think.
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  often
• 27:06
  think
• 27:06
  it's
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  shame
• 27:06
  that
• 27:07
  it
• 27:07
  didn't
• 27:08
  happen,
• 27:08
  you
• 27:08
  know,
• 27:09
  10
• 27:09
  or
• 27:09
  20
• 27:09
  years
• 27:10
  before
• 27:11
  that,
• 27:11
  because
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  takes
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  long
• 27:13
  time
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  sort
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  feel
• 27:14
  comfortable
• 27:14
  in
• 27:14
  your
• 27:14
  own
• 27:15
  skin
• 27:15
  and
• 27:16
  know
• 27:16
  what
• 27:16
  you're
• 27:16
  doing.
• 27:16
  And
• 27:17
  often
• 27:17
  it's
• 27:17
  later
• 27:17
  in
• 27:17
  life,
• 27:18
  isn't
• 27:18
  it,
• 27:18
  that
• 27:18
  people
• 27:19
  then
• 27:19
  take
• 27:20
  the
• 27:20
  time.
• 27:20
  And
• 27:21
  even
• 27:22
  thinking
• 27:22
  of
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  younger
• 27:22
  generation
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  farmers,
• 27:24
  male
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  female,
• 27:25
  coming
• 27:26
  through,
• 27:27
  who
• 27:27
  are
• 27:27
  perhaps
• 27:27
  more
• 27:28
  on
• 27:28
  it
• 27:29
  in.
• 27:29
  That
• 27:30
  respect,
• 27:30
  I
• 27:31
  think
• 27:31
  life's
• 27:31
  full
• 27:31
  of
• 27:32
  chapters.
• 27:32
  You
• 27:33
  know,
• 27:33
  when
• 27:33
  you're
• 27:33
  growing
• 27:33
  up
• 27:34
  and
• 27:34
  everyone's
• 27:34
  saying
• 27:34
  midlife
• 27:35
  crisis,
• 27:36
  and
• 27:36
  you're
• 27:36
  kind.
• 27:36
  Of
• 27:36
  like,
• 27:37
  what
• 27:37
  is
• 27:37
  that?
• 27:37
  And
• 27:38
  things.
• 27:38
  But
• 27:38
  when
• 27:38
  you're
• 27:39
  in
• 27:39
  your
• 27:39
  20s,
• 27:39
  30s,
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  have
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  energy.
• 27:41
  And
• 27:41
  I'm
• 27:41
  going
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  talk
• 27:42
  about
• 27:42
  this
• 27:42
  from
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  business
• 27:43
  point
• 27:43
  of
• 27:43
  view
• 27:43
  as
• 27:43
  well.
• 27:43
  You
• 27:44
  have
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  energy
• 27:44
  to
• 27:45
  really
• 27:45
  drive
• 27:45
  a
• 27:46
  business
• 27:46
  and
• 27:47
  really
• 27:47
  make
• 27:47
  change
• 27:47
  to
• 27:48
  a
• 27:48
  business.
• 27:49
  Things
• 27:49
  then
• 27:50
  change
• 27:50
  in
• 27:50
  life
• 27:50
  as
• 27:50
  you
• 27:51
  move
• 27:51
  through
• 27:51
  your
• 27:51
  30s
• 27:52
  into
• 27:52
  40s.
• 27:52
  And
• 27:52
  I
• 27:53
  think
• 27:53
  it's
• 27:53
  once.
• 27:53
  Once
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  hit
• 27:54
  50s,
• 27:56
  yeah,
• 27:56
  you
• 27:56
  are
• 27:56
  a
• 27:56
  bit
• 27:56
  uncomfortable
• 27:57
  in
• 27:57
  your
• 27:57
  skin.
• 27:58
  You
• 27:58
  do
• 27:58
  reflect
• 27:59
  more.
• 27:59
  And
• 28:00
  I
• 28:01
  mean,
• 28:01
  a
• 28:01
  little
• 28:01
  bit
• 28:01
  of
• 28:01
  background
• 28:02
  is
• 28:02
  we
• 28:02
  started
• 28:03
  the
• 28:03
  farm
• 28:03
  that
• 28:03
  we
• 28:03
  were
• 28:04
  in
• 28:04
  before
• 28:04
  and
• 28:05
  kind
• 28:05
  of
• 28:05
  repeating
• 28:06
  because
• 28:06
  actually
• 28:06
  we
• 28:06
  bought
• 28:07
  bare
• 28:07
  land
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  also
• 28:08
  built
• 28:08
  a
• 28:08
  house.
• 28:09
  Yeah,
• 28:09
  well,
• 28:09
  we
• 28:09
  bought
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  farm
• 28:10
  over
• 28:10
  25
• 28:10
  years
• 28:10
  ago
• 28:11
  and
• 28:11
  built
• 28:11
  a
• 28:12
  house
• 28:12
  in
• 28:12
  that
• 28:12
  property
• 28:12
  and
• 28:13
  built
• 28:13
  that
• 28:13
  business
• 28:13
  up.
• 28:14
  And
• 28:15
  our
• 28:15
  attitude
• 28:16
  to
• 28:16
  this
• 28:16
  now
• 28:17
  is
• 28:17
  very
• 28:17
  different
• 28:18
  because
• 28:18
  we're
• 28:19
  in
• 28:19
  that
• 28:19
  reflective
• 28:20
  stage
• 28:20
  of
• 28:20
  life.
• 28:20
  And
• 28:21
  also
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  realization,
• 28:22
  particularly
• 28:22
  in
• 28:22
  farming
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  livestock
• 28:24
  farming
• 28:24
  is.
• 28:25
  It's
• 28:25
  very
• 28:25
  physical.
• 28:26
  And
• 28:26
  you
• 28:26
  get
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  an
• 28:27
  age
• 28:27
  where
• 28:28
  physically,
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  know
• 28:29
  that
• 28:29
  you
• 28:30
  need
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  adapt
• 28:31
  within
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  farm
• 28:32
  because
• 28:33
  you're
• 28:33
  just
• 28:33
  getting
• 28:33
  knackered
• 28:34
  and
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  have
• 28:35
  old
• 28:35
  injuries
• 28:36
  and
• 28:36
  things.
• 28:36
  So.
• 28:37
  So
• 28:37
  what
• 28:38
  would
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  have
• 28:38
  told
• 28:39
  myself
• 28:39
  when
• 28:39
  I
• 28:40
  was
• 28:40
  in
• 28:40
  my
• 28:40
  20s,
• 28:41
  late
• 28:41
  20s,
• 28:42
  and
• 28:42
  we
• 28:42
  were
• 28:42
  setting
• 28:42
  up
• 28:42
  that
• 28:43
  part
• 28:43
  of
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  farm?
• 28:43
  It's
• 28:44
  just,
• 28:44
  yeah,
• 28:45
  take
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  time
• 28:45
  and
• 28:46
  opportunity,
• 28:46
  have
• 28:46
  a
• 28:47
  breath
• 28:47
  factor
• 28:48
  in
• 28:48
  that
• 28:48
  time
• 28:48
  away
• 28:49
  from
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  farm
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  all
• 28:49
  those
• 28:50
  other
• 28:50
  things.
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  know
• 28:51
  it's
• 28:51
  really,
• 28:51
  really
• 28:51
  hard
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  do,
• 28:52
  but
• 28:53
  take
• 28:53
  that
• 28:54
  advice.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  this
• 28:54
  is
• 28:54
  where
• 28:54
  FarmSpring's
• 28:55
  really
• 28:55
  good,
• 28:55
  because
• 28:55
  I
• 28:55
  think
• 28:56
  people
• 28:56
  are
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  lot
• 28:56
  more
• 28:56
  aware
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  that
• 28:57
  now.
• 28:57
  Is
• 28:57
  like,
• 28:58
  don't
• 28:58
  suck
• 28:58
  yourself
• 28:59
  into
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  ground
• 28:59
  because
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  it.
• 29:01
  Because
• 29:01
  you
• 29:01
  want
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  look
• 29:02
  back
• 29:02
  on
• 29:02
  life
• 29:02
  and
• 29:02
  think,
• 29:03
  yeah,
• 29:03
  do
• 29:03
  you
• 29:03
  know
• 29:03
  what?
• 29:03
  We
• 29:03
  had
• 29:03
  a
• 29:04
  really
• 29:04
  good
• 29:04
  balance
• 29:04
  between
• 29:05
  business
• 29:05
  and
• 29:05
  life.
• 29:06
  Kirsty,
• 29:07
  do
• 29:07
  you
• 29:07
  think
• 29:07
  there's
• 29:08
  that
• 29:08
  generational
• 29:08
  point
• 29:09
  of
• 29:09
  difference?
• 29:10
  Absolutely.
• 29:10
  As
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  woman
• 29:11
  in
• 29:12
  our
• 29:12
  50s
• 29:13
  as
• 29:13
  well,
• 29:13
  I
• 29:13
  completely
• 29:14
  changed
• 29:14
  my
• 29:14
  career
• 29:15
  in
• 29:15
  my
• 29:15
  40s.
• 29:16
  I
• 29:16
  was
• 29:17
  an
• 29:17
  accountant
• 29:17
  for
• 29:17
  25
• 29:18
  years.
• 29:18
  So
• 29:19
  I
• 29:19
  really
• 29:19
  want
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  reframe
• 29:21
  the
• 29:21
  term
• 29:21
  midlife
• 29:22
  crisis,
• 29:23
  because
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  don't
• 29:23
  see
• 29:24
  it
• 29:24
  as
• 29:24
  a
• 29:24
  crisis.
• 29:24
  I
• 29:25
  see
• 29:25
  it
• 29:25
  as
• 29:25
  a
• 29:26
  maybe
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  reframe
• 29:27
  or
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  don't
• 29:27
  know,
• 29:28
  maybe
• 29:28
  I'll
• 29:28
  try
• 29:28
  and
• 29:28
  come
• 29:29
  up
• 29:29
  with
• 29:29
  some
• 29:29
  different
• 29:30
  word
• 29:30
  and
• 29:31
  make
• 29:31
  it
• 29:31
  go
• 29:31
  viral,
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  don't
• 29:32
  know.
• 29:32
  But
• 29:33
  it
• 29:33
  just
• 29:33
  feels
• 29:34
  like
• 29:34
  it's
• 29:34
  not
• 29:34
  a
• 29:34
  crisis
• 29:35
  anymore.
• 29:36
  It
• 29:36
  is
• 29:36
  a
• 29:36
  reflection
• 29:37
  point.
• 29:38
  It's
• 29:38
  a
• 29:39
  chance
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  look
• 29:40
  back,
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  chance
• 29:40
  to
• 29:41
  know
• 29:41
  ourselves
• 29:41
  better,
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  a
• 29:43
  chance
• 29:43
  to
• 29:43
  move
• 29:43
  forward
• 29:44
  in
• 29:44
  a
• 29:44
  way
• 29:44
  that
• 29:45
  helps
• 29:45
  us
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  live
• 29:46
  well.
• 29:47
  What
• 29:47
  I
• 29:47
  tend
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  find
• 29:48
  people
• 29:48
  coming
• 29:49
  to
• 29:49
  the
• 29:50
  therapy
• 29:50
  space,
• 29:52
  they
• 29:52
  first
• 29:52
  come
• 29:52
  around
• 29:53
  30.
• 29:55
  So
• 29:55
  after
• 29:55
  their
• 29:56
  prefrontal
• 29:57
  cortex
• 29:57
  is
• 29:58
  completely
• 29:58
  developed,
• 29:59
  they
• 29:59
  have
• 29:59
  their
• 30:00
  first
• 30:00
  crisis
• 30:01
  around
• 30:02
  30,
• 30:03
  start
• 30:03
  questioning
• 30:04
  life
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  future
• 30:06
  and
• 30:06
  everything
• 30:07
  else.
• 30:08
  And
• 30:08
  then
• 30:08
  in
• 30:08
  another
• 30:08
  10
• 30:09
  years,
• 30:09
  when
• 30:09
  the
• 30:10
  next
• 30:10
  question
• 30:12
  or
• 30:12
  moment
• 30:12
  in
• 30:13
  life
• 30:13
  hits,
• 30:14
  there's
• 30:14
  another
• 30:14
  space
• 30:15
  there
• 30:15
  for
• 30:15
  reflection.
• 30:16
  But
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  genuinely,
• 30:18
  genuinely
• 30:18
  believe,
• 30:19
  and
• 30:19
  this
• 30:19
  is
• 30:19
  not
• 30:19
  about
• 30:20
  me
• 30:20
  sitting
• 30:20
  here
• 30:21
  going,
• 30:21
  you
• 30:21
  must
• 30:21
  do
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  Foundations
• 30:23
  of
• 30:23
  Mental
• 30:24
  Strength
• 30:24
  program.
• 30:25
  But
• 30:25
  I
• 30:25
  fundamentally
• 30:26
  believe
• 30:26
  and
• 30:27
  get
• 30:27
  so
• 30:27
  excited
• 30:28
  about
• 30:28
  anyone
• 30:29
  who
• 30:29
  is
• 30:29
  interested
• 30:30
  in
• 30:31
  self
• 30:31
  awareness
• 30:32
  and
• 30:33
  knowing
• 30:33
  themselves.
• 30:34
  And
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  program
• 30:35
  actually
• 30:36
  starts
• 30:37
  with
• 30:37
  a
• 30:38
  quote.
• 30:38
  And
• 30:38
  I
• 30:38
  think
• 30:38
  it
• 30:39
  was
• 30:39
  Aristotle
• 30:39
  who
• 30:40
  said,
• 30:40
  knowing
• 30:41
  yourself
• 30:41
  is
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  beginning
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  all
• 30:43
  wisdom.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  look
• 30:44
  back
• 30:45
  and
• 30:45
  think,
• 30:46
  if
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  had
• 30:46
  started
• 30:47
  with
• 30:47
  that
• 30:47
  Wisdom
• 30:47
  in
• 30:48
  my
• 30:48
  20s
• 30:48
  or
• 30:48
  my
• 30:49
  30s,
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  don't
• 30:50
  know
• 30:50
  where
• 30:50
  my
• 30:51
  life
• 30:51
  would
• 30:51
  be
• 30:51
  now.
• 30:51
  Maybe
• 30:52
  I'd
• 30:52
  be
• 30:52
  doing
• 30:52
  exactly
• 30:52
  the
• 30:53
  same
• 30:53
  thing.
• 30:53
  I
• 30:53
  have
• 30:53
  no
• 30:54
  idea.
• 30:55
  But
• 30:55
  I
• 30:55
  get
• 30:55
  excited
• 30:56
  about
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  possibility
• 30:58
  of
• 30:59
  others
• 30:59
  knowing
• 31:00
  themselves
• 31:00
  at
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  younger
• 31:01
  age.
• 31:03
  It
• 31:03
  doesn't
• 31:03
  really
• 31:04
  matter
• 31:04
  what
• 31:04
  age
• 31:04
  you
• 31:05
  realize
• 31:05
  the
• 31:06
  things
• 31:06
  you
• 31:06
  realize.
• 31:07
  There's
• 31:08
  something
• 31:08
  about
• 31:08
  our
• 31:08
  age
• 31:09
  and
• 31:09
  experience.
• 31:10
  And
• 31:10
  maybe
• 31:11
  we're
• 31:11
  only
• 31:11
  supposed
• 31:12
  to
• 31:12
  be
• 31:12
  who
• 31:12
  we
• 31:13
  are
• 31:13
  when
• 31:14
  we
• 31:15
  get
• 31:15
  the
• 31:15
  experience
• 31:17
  to
• 31:17
  be
• 31:17
  who
• 31:17
  we
• 31:17
  are
• 31:18
  and
• 31:18
  who
• 31:18
  we're
• 31:18
  going
• 31:18
  to
• 31:18
  be.
• 31:19
  So
• 31:19
  celebrate
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  age
• 31:20
  and
• 31:20
  stage
• 31:21
  we're
• 31:21
  at
• 31:21
  then.
• 31:22
  That's
• 31:22
  ultimately
• 31:23
  what
• 31:23
  you're
• 31:23
  saying.
• 31:23
  We
• 31:24
  can't
• 31:24
  go
• 31:24
  back,
• 31:24
  Emily,
• 31:25
  can
• 31:25
  we?
• 31:25
  There
• 31:26
  is
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  bit
• 31:26
  of
• 31:26
  that.
• 31:26
  And,
• 31:27
  you
• 31:27
  know,
• 31:28
  again,
• 31:28
  we
• 31:28
  could
• 31:28
  get
• 31:29
  really
• 31:29
  deep
• 31:29
  talking
• 31:29
  about
• 31:30
  regrets
• 31:30
  and
• 31:30
  all
• 31:31
  of
• 31:31
  that.
• 31:31
  But
• 31:32
  there
• 31:32
  is
• 31:32
  an
• 31:32
  element
• 31:33
  of
• 31:33
  when
• 31:33
  you
• 31:34
  understand
• 31:34
  who
• 31:34
  you
• 31:35
  are
• 31:35
  now,
• 31:35
  there
• 31:36
  is
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  freedom
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  a
• 31:38
  power
• 31:39
  in
• 31:39
  being
• 31:40
  able
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  then
• 31:40
  make
• 31:41
  decisions
• 31:41
  that
• 31:43
  really,
• 31:43
  you
• 31:44
  see
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  fruits
• 31:45
  of
• 31:45
  your
• 31:45
  labor,
• 31:46
  you
• 31:46
  know,
• 31:46
  you
• 31:47
  really
• 31:47
  start
• 31:47
  to
• 31:48
  see
• 31:48
  how
• 31:48
  you
• 31:48
  can
• 31:49
  live
• 31:49
  better
• 31:50
  when
• 31:50
  you
• 31:50
  know
• 31:51
  yourself.
• 31:52
  Well,
• 31:52
  that's
• 31:52
  a,
• 31:52
  it's
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  lovely
• 31:53
  message
• 31:53
  to
• 31:54
  end
• 31:54
  on,
• 31:54
  Kirsty.
• 31:55
  And
• 31:56
  in
• 31:56
  a
• 31:56
  sentence,
• 31:56
  Emily,
• 31:57
  just
• 31:57
  for
• 31:57
  you
• 31:57
  to
• 31:58
  finish
• 31:58
  off,
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  know,
• 31:59
  one
• 32:00
  sentence,
• 32:00
  two
• 32:00
  sentence,
• 32:01
  just
• 32:01
  tell,
• 32:01
  you
• 32:02
  know,
• 32:02
  why
• 32:03
  people
• 32:03
  should,
• 32:04
  if
• 32:04
  they
• 32:04
  can
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  they're
• 32:05
  open
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  get
• 32:06
  involved
• 32:06
  in
• 32:06
  this
• 32:06
  program.
• 32:07
  I
• 32:07
  just
• 32:08
  think,
• 32:08
  I
• 32:09
  suppose
• 32:09
  Kirsty
• 32:09
  alluded
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  it
• 32:10
  and
• 32:12
  I've
• 32:12
  not
• 32:12
  been
• 32:12
  involved
• 32:13
  in
• 32:13
  a
• 32:14
  full
• 32:14
  program
• 32:15
  like
• 32:16
  this,
• 32:16
  but
• 32:16
  certainly
• 32:17
  even
• 32:17
  in
• 32:17
  facilitation
• 32:18
  when
• 32:18
  we
• 32:18
  are
• 32:18
  working
• 32:19
  with
• 32:19
  pharma
• 32:19
  groups
• 32:20
  about
• 32:20
  their
• 32:20
  business
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  really,
• 32:21
  absolutely
• 32:22
  try
• 32:22
  and
• 32:22
  get
• 32:23
  them
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  pin
• 32:23
  down
• 32:24
  and
• 32:24
  understand,
• 32:24
  as
• 32:25
  Kirsty
• 32:25
  says,
• 32:25
  it's
• 32:26
  that
• 32:26
  self
• 32:26
  awareness
• 32:27
  thing
• 32:27
  and
• 32:27
  about
• 32:27
  how
• 32:27
  people,
• 32:28
  if
• 32:28
  you
• 32:29
  understand
• 32:29
  yourself
• 32:29
  and
• 32:30
  how
• 32:30
  you
• 32:30
  operate,
• 32:31
  you
• 32:31
  can
• 32:32
  avoid
• 32:32
  your
• 32:32
  blind
• 32:33
  spots,
• 32:33
  you
• 32:34
  can
• 32:34
  overcome
• 32:34
  some
• 32:34
  of
• 32:34
  your
• 32:34
  biases.
• 32:35
  And
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  think
• 32:36
  people
• 32:36
  genuinely
• 32:37
  may
• 32:38
  find
• 32:38
  that
• 32:39
  it
• 32:39
  does
• 32:39
  change
• 32:40
  their
• 32:40
  lives
• 32:41
  a
• 32:41
  little
• 32:41
  bit
• 32:41
  or
• 32:42
  hopefully
• 32:42
  a
• 32:42
  lot
• 32:42
  and
• 32:43
  that
• 32:44
  it
• 32:44
  maybe
• 32:44
  gives
• 32:45
  some
• 32:45
  clarity,
• 32:45
  it
• 32:45
  maybe
• 32:46
  gives
• 32:46
  them
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  bit
• 32:46
  more
• 32:47
  direction.
• 32:47
  And
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  just
• 32:48
  think,
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  know,
• 32:49
  just
• 32:50
  give
• 32:50
  it
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  go
• 32:50
  because
• 32:51
  you've
• 32:51
  got
• 32:51
  absolutely
• 32:52
  nothing
• 32:53
  to
• 32:53
  lose,
• 32:54
  probably
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  lot
• 32:54
  to
• 32:55
  gain.
• 32:55
  And
• 32:55
  I
• 32:56
  said,
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  think
• 32:56
  genuinely
• 32:57
  this
• 32:57
  has
• 32:57
  been
• 32:58
  one
• 32:58
  of
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  missing
• 32:58
  parts
• 32:59
  and
• 32:59
  this
• 32:59
  is
• 32:59
  why
• 32:59
  I'm
• 32:59
  excited
• 33:00
  about
• 33:00
  it.
• 33:01
  You
• 33:01
  know,
• 33:01
  we
• 33:01
  get
• 33:02
  a
• 33:02
  lot
• 33:02
  of
• 33:03
  funding
• 33:03
  comes
• 33:03
  in,
• 33:03
  particularly
• 33:04
  government
• 33:04
  funding
• 33:04
  and
• 33:04
  things
• 33:05
  coming
• 33:05
  in
• 33:05
  for
• 33:05
  knowledge
• 33:06
  exchange
• 33:06
  and
• 33:07
  as
• 33:07
  I
• 33:07
  said,
• 33:07
  improving
• 33:07
  production
• 33:08
  or
• 33:08
  efficiency
• 33:09
  and
• 33:09
  things.
• 33:09
  But
• 33:10
  actually
• 33:10
  sometimes
• 33:10
  if
• 33:10
  we
• 33:11
  just
• 33:11
  stop
• 33:11
  and
• 33:12
  like
• 33:12
  hold
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  mirror
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  little
• 33:13
  bit.
• 33:13
  And
• 33:13
  so
• 33:14
  because
• 33:14
  people
• 33:14
  are
• 33:15
  businesses,
• 33:15
  businesses
• 33:16
  are
• 33:16
  driven
• 33:16
  by
• 33:16
  people
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  if
• 33:18
  we
• 33:18
  have
• 33:18
  that
• 33:18
  little
• 33:19
  mirror
• 33:19
  to
• 33:19
  ourselves,
• 33:20
  okay,
• 33:20
  so
• 33:20
  this
• 33:21
  is
• 33:21
  how
• 33:21
  I
• 33:22
  work
• 33:22
  within
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  business
• 33:23
  or
• 33:23
  even
• 33:23
  just,
• 33:23
  yeah,
• 33:24
  this
• 33:24
  is
• 33:24
  what
• 33:24
  I
• 33:24
  want
• 33:24
  out
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  life.
• 33:25
  I
• 33:26
  think
• 33:26
  there's
• 33:26
  a
• 33:26
  little
• 33:27
  bit
• 33:28
  for
• 33:28
  everyone
• 33:29
  in
• 33:30
  this
• 33:30
  program
• 33:30
  that
• 33:31
  Kirsty's
• 33:31
  helped
• 33:32
  develop.
• 33:33
  Thank
• 33:33
  you,
• 33:33
  Emily.
• 33:34
  And
• 33:34
  so
• 33:34
  to
• 33:35
  all
• 33:35
  our
• 33:35
  listeners,
• 33:36
  there's
• 33:36
  more
• 33:36
  information
• 33:37
  on
• 33:37
  the
• 33:38
  FOMS
• 33:38
  program,
• 33:38
  the
• 33:39
  Foundations
• 33:39
  of
• 33:40
  Mental
• 33:40
  Health
• 33:41
  programme
• 33:41
  on
• 33:41
  the
• 33:42
  Farmstrong
• 33:42
  website.
• 33:44
  Well,
• 33:44
  ladies,
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  think
• 33:45
  my
• 33:45
  takeaways
• 33:46
  from
• 33:46
  today
• 33:46
  are
• 33:47
  that
• 33:47
  I'm
• 33:48
  not
• 33:48
  an
• 33:48
  overthinker,
• 33:49
  I'm
• 33:49
  not
• 33:49
  a
• 33:49
  control
• 33:50
  freak
• 33:51
  and
• 33:51
  you
• 33:51
  know,
• 33:52
  midlife
• 33:52
  crisis,
• 33:53
  what's
• 33:54
  that?
• 33:54
  No
• 33:54
  such
• 33:55
  thing.
• 33:55
  Bring
• 33:55
  it
• 33:55
  on,
• 33:57
  bring
• 33:57
  it
• 33:57
  on.
• 33:58
  That's
• 33:58
  it,
• 33:58
  isn't
• 33:59
  it?
• 34:00
  Being
• 34:00
  a
• 34:01
  grown
• 34:01
  up
• 34:02
  is
• 34:02
  really
• 34:02
  hard.
• 34:04
  And
• 34:04
  I
• 34:04
  think
• 34:05
  this
• 34:05
  program,
• 34:06
  it
• 34:06
  sets
• 34:07
  you
• 34:07
  up
• 34:07
  to
• 34:08
  make
• 34:08
  better
• 34:08
  decisions
• 34:09
  about
• 34:09
  your
• 34:10
  farm,
• 34:10
  your
• 34:10
  croft,
• 34:11
  about
• 34:11
  your
• 34:11
  health,
• 34:11
  your
• 34:12
  well
• 34:12
  being,
• 34:12
  about
• 34:13
  your
• 34:13
  relationships,
• 34:14
  about
• 34:14
  the
• 34:15
  future,
• 34:16
  about
• 34:16
  life.
• 34:17
  It's
• 34:17
  protecting
• 34:18
  your
• 34:18
  energy,
• 34:18
  protecting
• 34:19
  your
• 34:19
  happiness.
• 34:20
  You
• 34:21
  know,
• 34:21
  less
• 34:21
  hassle,
• 34:22
  less
• 34:22
  stress,
• 34:23
  more
• 34:23
  balance.
• 34:24
  And
• 34:24
  I
• 34:24
  think
• 34:24
  that's
• 34:24
  what
• 34:25
  came
• 34:25
  out
• 34:25
  of
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  survey,
• 34:26
  doesn't
• 34:26
  it,
• 34:26
  that
• 34:27
  people
• 34:27
  want
• 34:28
  more
• 34:28
  balance?
• 34:29
  I
• 34:29
  think
• 34:29
  this
• 34:29
  can
• 34:30
  give
• 34:30
  them
• 34:30
  it.
• 34:30
  Well,
• 34:31
  Christy,
• 34:31
  thank
• 34:31
  you
• 34:31
  very
• 34:31
  much.
• 34:32
  Well
• 34:32
  said.
• 34:33
  The
• 34:33
  final
• 34:33
  word
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  you,
• 34:34
  Kirsty
• 34:35
  and
• 34:35
  Emily,
• 34:36
  thank
• 34:36
  you
• 34:36
  very
• 34:37
  much
• 34:37
  for
• 34:37
  joining
• 34:38
  me
• 34:38
  today.
• 34:38
  It's
• 34:39
  a
• 34:39
  beautiful
• 34:39
  day
• 34:39
  outside,
• 34:40
  so
• 34:40
  I
• 34:41
  think
• 34:41
  we
• 34:41
  should
• 34:41
  all
• 34:41
  go
• 34:41
  out
• 34:41
  there
• 34:41
  and
• 34:42
  enjoy
• 34:42
  it
• 34:42
  if
• 34:42
  we
• 34:42
  can.
• 34:43
  Thank
• 34:43
  you
• 34:43
  very
• 34:43
  much.
• 34:44
  And
• 34:44
  have
• 34:44
  that
• 34:44
  dog
• 34:44
  walk.
• 34:45
  Yeah,
• 34:45
  absolutely.
• 34:46
  Thank
• 34:46
  you
• 34:46
  very
• 34:47
  much.
• 34:48
  Huge
• 34:48
  thanks
• 34:48
  to
• 34:49
  Kirsty
• 34:49
  Ritchie
• 34:49
  and
• 34:50
  Emily
• 34:50
  Grant.
• 34:51
  Find
• 34:51
  FarmStrong
• 34:52
  Scotland
• 34:52
  Online,
• 34:53
  FarmStrongScotland.org
• 34:56
  you'll
• 34:56
  find
• 34:56
  info
• 34:57
  there
• 34:57
  about
• 34:57
  the
• 34:57
  foundations
• 34:58
  of
• 34:58
  mental
• 34:59
  strength
• 34:59
  program,
• 35:00
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• 35:00
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• 35:01
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• 35:01
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• 35:01
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• 35:02
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• 35:02
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• 35:03
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• 35:03
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• 35:04
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• 35:04
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• 35:04
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• 35:04
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• 35:05
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• 35:09
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• 35:11
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