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She STOLE Half the Store... Then Fell Asleep on the Job · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Should manage to steal the significant chunk of invagory and
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  Speaker 1: then fall asleep in the storage area very.
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  Speaker 2: Quickly realize that he could not cook.
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  Speaker 3: I could rarely get more than three or four consistent
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  Speaker 3: hours of work from them before they disengaged and returned
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  Speaker 3: to their disk.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of name who supposedly was with the university and
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  Speaker 4: was verifying the transcripts.
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  Speaker 5: That person didn't exist.
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  Speaker 6: Oh man, this is the Bad Hire, the show with
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  Speaker 6: the best stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 3: We fired him.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, people are crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like an hr nightmare.
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  Speaker 7: Right one Bad Hire stole all of it crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 7: She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we
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  Speaker 3: But I like, you don't want me to say one
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  Speaker 7: Yeah No, I don't exactly. Yeah, I don't, And that's.
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  Speaker 3: Probably one I will tell. But I did like the
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  Speaker 3: there for orientation, and there was going back and forth
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  Speaker 3: on the phone all day, and then by like three
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  Speaker 3: o'clock they're like, you know, I just don't even come
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  Speaker 3: in today, just come in tomorrow. And then they ended
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  Speaker 3: up firing him, and then like fifteen minutes later he
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  Speaker 3: reapplaud online.
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  Speaker 7: Do you remember that he remembers she's got the social clips.
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  Speaker 9: So you watched the like, yo, you'll watch the stories
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  Speaker 9: like over and over again, so it's not like.
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  Speaker 7: We're I don't I don't really do that.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that'd be all right. So let me get started.
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  Speaker 1: So I run a bookstore and every fall we set
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  Speaker 1: up one of those seasonal calendar chaos at the other
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  Speaker 1: end of the shopping center. Straightforward, gig stand there, answer questions,
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  Speaker 1: sell calendars.
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  Speaker 7: That's it, okay. I needed someone to run it. So
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  Speaker 7: I hired a woman. Let's call her Mary. I love
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  Speaker 7: how I said, let's call her Mary. Let's call her Mary.
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  Speaker 7: She came in for her morning.
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  Speaker 8: Training, seemed totally fine, normal, nothing that would make you
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  Speaker 8: think twice about anything about her.
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  Speaker 1: So I got her set up, walked her through everything,
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  Speaker 1: and let her go to it. You know, I had
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  Speaker 1: stuff to handle on.
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  Speaker 7: My end of the mall.
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  Speaker 8: About an hour later, I head back over to check in,
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  Speaker 8: and I stop, and I stop in the entrance because
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  Speaker 8: something is immediately wrong. About half the display is empty,
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  Speaker 8: Whole sections of calendars are just gone, and Mary is
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  Speaker 8: no Mary is nowhere inside Mary all right? I checked
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  Speaker 8: behind the kiosk. We use curtains to hide the backstop,
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  Speaker 8: the backstock, and behind the curtains, Mary's asleep.
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  Speaker 7: Oh okay, on the floor on our first day.
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  Speaker 8: Getting stood there for a solid ten seconds, just trying
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  Speaker 8: to process what I was looking at. She had been
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  Speaker 8: on the job for less than a morning, really less
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  Speaker 8: than an hour. Yeah, and in that time she'd managed
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  Speaker 8: to steal a significant steal, a significant chunk of inventory,
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  Speaker 8: and then fall asleep in the storage area.
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  Speaker 7: So she stole and then just fell asleep right area.
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  Speaker 7: What'd she do with it?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, she stole or she let other people steal because
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  Speaker 3: she was sleeping.
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  Speaker 7: He said, she managed to steal half that displayed, But
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  Speaker 7: he has managed to get things stolen.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, half the shelf is gone.
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  Speaker 1: I said her name, she woke up. We had a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It was a brief ever, say.
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  Speaker 7: Wake up Mary. So she stole out the stuff from
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  Speaker 7: the display put in her back back.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, you would think like new job vibe
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  Speaker 1: would give you that that adrenaline dump.
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's like new job. Yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 9: could stay awake for an hour. Maybe she's like, I
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  Speaker 9: finally got my job. Time to just coast.
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  Speaker 3: And say, well, it's not very busy right now?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, quick nap. That's crazy. I just can't imagine that.
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  Speaker 9: Also, like I'm lost with the stealing part she's stole
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  Speaker 9: or maybe she's really.
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  Speaker 3: Think they just met people stall while she was asleep.
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  Speaker 10: She just wipe out the calendar and then knocked out
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  Speaker 10: on the floorways.
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  Speaker 7: Land, it's take a nap. It stole everything. But I
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  Speaker 7: wanted a nap before I left because the getaway it's
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  Speaker 7: gonna be great. Yeah, so you're about to go fast.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. All right, all good signs flame out
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  Speaker 7: on the first hour.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, those are the best stories, well the worst stories,
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  Speaker 1: We got we gotta We got a clip from Jeremy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is Jeremy, all right, and let's see what
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  Speaker 7: Jeremy's up to. Yeah, we weren't.
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  Speaker 4: Just looking for any candidate for these kinds of roles.
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  Speaker 4: We had very specific qualifications, specific competencies, and for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 4: this role had to become one of those white whale scenarios.
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  Speaker 4: For us, it's like, where are we going to find
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  Speaker 4: this person right to be able to fit all this criteria. So,
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  Speaker 4: now I remind you this was a different era of recruiting.
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  Speaker 4: So we were about a month or two in into
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  Speaker 4: this new recruiting that I was doing. With all of
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  Speaker 4: that and our founder, I found that candidate who checked
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  Speaker 4: every box.
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  Speaker 5: But here's really where this story takes a turn.
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  Speaker 4: As part of our background checking for management trainees candidates,
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  Speaker 4: we required them to submit certified collegiate transcripts.
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  Speaker 5: So I asked those and she sent them to me.
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  Speaker 4: And when I looked at them, it didn't look like
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  Speaker 4: other transcripts that I had seen. There was no certification seal,
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  Speaker 4: no official stamp, none of those kind of things. At
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  Speaker 4: this point, I don't have any proof of anything. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what's going on. I just have a feeling.
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  Speaker 4: So what I did was I called her. I asked
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  Speaker 4: her some follow up questions, tried to give her the
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  Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt, and she said, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'll have someone from the university to give you a
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  Speaker 4: call and they can verify the transcripts.
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  Speaker 5: And they said, all right, awesome, let's view it sounds
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  Speaker 5: So the.
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  Speaker 7: University call you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, people, call your people.
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  Speaker 4: From the university. They verified everything on the transcripts. Call ended, boom.
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  Speaker 5: I was done.
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  Speaker 4: After that call, I still didn't feel right, like there
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  Speaker 4: was still something there, so I picked up the phone
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  Speaker 4: myself and I called the school. When I got to
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  Speaker 4: the right people, I asked them about the person who
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  Speaker 4: had called me. I had a name who supposedly was
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  Speaker 4: with the university and was verifying this the transcripts.
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  Speaker 5: That person didn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I mentionin he hed just hit callback, so
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  Speaker 1: I said, he said he looked up the funny just
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  Speaker 1: his call.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Yo, what I'm wondering is did this person think
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  Speaker 3: that they would forget that the university was supposed to
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  Speaker 3: call them and then just like let it slide, or
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  Speaker 3: they were just gonna have like a fake person called it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure. So I talked to a buddy.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a lot of words.
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  Speaker 7: We're talking to him.
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  Speaker 9: I talked to Jeremy, and he's just like one of
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  Speaker 9: his buddies or his mom or something like that.
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  Speaker 7: There a family member like.
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  Speaker 9: So that was who. So he's like, oh, how the
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  Speaker 9: university call you? And then he just had like his
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  Speaker 9: buddy frank him okay and just pretend it.
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  Speaker 3: Just sounds like a lot of work.
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  Speaker 9: I like to maybe it was like his mom. And
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  Speaker 9: there's like a picture of the candidate in the background
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  Speaker 9: of the call, Like.
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  Speaker 7: He clearly he designed some transcripts that clearly had never
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  Speaker 7: seen one.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just a piece of favorite said like I
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  Speaker 9: went to this universe too.
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  Speaker 5: That was it?
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  Speaker 6: What a.
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  Speaker 7: Matha yeah, college check mark.
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  Speaker 9: So Lisa, he's got some good friends to help bail
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  Speaker 9: him out or good family members of trying and bail
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  Speaker 9: them out and.
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  Speaker 7: Get them a job. But I got you, man, I'll cover.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I need the employment verification.
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  Speaker 1: So probably some moms out there that would do that.
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  Speaker 9: There's been a couple though, they feel like there's been
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  Speaker 9: a couple of moms involved with the hiring processes and
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  Speaker 9: the stories you've had.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, I got my story. I got a couple.
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  Speaker 7: I got one.
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  Speaker 9: And then I think we're reacting to another another clip. So, okay,
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  Speaker 9: we brought on a new hire. It's her first day,
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  Speaker 9: and she comes in a little wound up at orientation,
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  Speaker 9: which I noticed, but honestly, some people were just nervous.
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  Speaker 9: It's a new place with new faces, and I don't
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  Speaker 9: really read into it. We get through the morning and
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  Speaker 9: things seem fine. Then we're all in the breakroom together
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  Speaker 9: and she looks over at the counter next to two
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  Speaker 9: large bags of Starbucks coffee beans that are sitting next
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  Speaker 9: to that machine, and she goes, what are those and
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  Speaker 9: someone says, oh, yeah, those are those are free help yourself,
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  Speaker 9: meaning like they're you know, they're free to use it
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  Speaker 9: to get a cup of coffee for yourself. So she nods,
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  Speaker 9: she walks over, she picks up both full backs of
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  Speaker 9: coffee beans put from her purse and it walks out.
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  Speaker 7: So there goes the commut the communal office coffee.
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  Speaker 9: They kind of would have, you know, been there every
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  Speaker 9: single morning for the rest of her time with the job.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: Someone came and found me almost immediately and said she's
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  Speaker 9: put all the coffee in her bag and left, and
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, she what, I'm sorry, So we let her
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  Speaker 9: go before the end of the day.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know that was that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that it was definitely worth a conversation.
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  Speaker 7: It must be my turn. Maybe maybe there are other
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  Speaker 7: red flags, but the theft of coffee on the first day.
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  Speaker 9: These people really like their coffee, so that was too
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  Speaker 9: far for them, so that they let her go.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't enough that that they didn't understand.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't the whole under that.
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  Speaker 9: It could have just been a funny story like, hey,
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  Speaker 9: she remember when you stole those bag coffee?
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, classic, But.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was worth Senator home.
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  Speaker 9: But apparently these people really like their coffee, so I guess, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: it was just a big messing.
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  Speaker 3: Stray around here. I guess I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that one's a little bit sad. Yeah, yeah, we
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  Speaker 7: get you know, we do the lunch for everybody. We've
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  Speaker 7: had some issues with.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we.
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  Speaker 1: Provide like factor of lunches for everybody. If you want lunch,
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  Speaker 1: you can just grab one. So people just jump and
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  Speaker 1: had people like show up in the morning, have two,
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  Speaker 1: show up at lunch, have two, yeah, you know, before
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  Speaker 1: they leave, have two, then take some home. I'm how
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  Speaker 1: many of people over tonight we have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: the other one person's like chugging through six to ten
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  Speaker 1: a day.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you you know what I
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  Speaker 1: what the word I put out was, if you if
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  Speaker 1: you're having a hard time providing groceries at homes, let
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  Speaker 1: us no cup talk to me.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, don't don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think that food will work something and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: Starbucks back, wear it away. Yeah, it helped but you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't break the don't wreck the refrigerators for other people.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, what you got verb start coming up? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there's another person that I talked to. This is Sandra.
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  Speaker 7: She's a great good conversation with her, and this is
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  Speaker 7: one of her stories.
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  Speaker 2: One that comes to mind that I think highlights a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the different things that anyone who sits in
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  Speaker 2: a hiring role, whether you're a recruiter or a hiring manager,
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  Speaker 2: tries to avoid. Is you know that candidate that interviews
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  Speaker 2: really really well and says all the right things and
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  Speaker 2: gives off all the right vibes, but then can't actually
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  Speaker 2: do the job. And so what we see this all
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  Speaker 2: the time. We hired a cook on the college campus
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  Speaker 2: that I worked at. We teared off the cook level
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  Speaker 2: so that we can compensate people with more advanced skills
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  Speaker 2: at a higher level. And so we had a cook one,
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  Speaker 2: which is more entry level, a cook two can maybe
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  Speaker 2: take certain things and do them on repeat, and then
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  Speaker 2: the cook three was the highest level skilled position where
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  Speaker 2: basically anything the chef rites into the menu.
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  Speaker 5: You're supposed to be able to actually for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We hired a gentleman who on paper, was very qualified,
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  Speaker 2: had served as a cook in the armed forces, or
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  Speaker 2: what he told us was years and done all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of dishes, and again just great interview, said all the
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  Speaker 2: right things. We're excited because it's hard to find good culinarians,
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  Speaker 2: especially you know, in a place like ours, where it's
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  Speaker 2: not big city, lots of numbers to pull from, and
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  Speaker 2: very quickly realized that he could not cook when he
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  Speaker 2: was not able to make scrambled eggs for breakfast on
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  Speaker 2: day one after his training. You know, no matter how
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  Speaker 2: we tried to spin it like, well, maybe they didn't
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  Speaker 2: eat breakfast in the Armed divorces, it was just we
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  Speaker 2: had to do some introspection of you know, as much
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  Speaker 2: as we would want to place blame on this candidate,
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  Speaker 2: there were some systematic failures on our end where we
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  Speaker 2: did not actually verify his technical skills more than we
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  Speaker 2: were impressed by.
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  Speaker 7: Dang, that's interesting. Verify the technical skills. I never thought
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  Speaker 7: about that. Yeah in culinary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like you just here, take this test for Excel,
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  Speaker 1: take this whatever.
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes you gotta getting catching you like some bits of food.
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  Speaker 1: Abron needs to make me some eggs.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like eggs, So do you make scrambled eggs.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. I like to see it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I could see you know, when you go
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  Speaker 1: to when you go to when you go to like
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  Speaker 1: a nice restaurant or especially in like hotels, they always
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: do such a great job in nice hotels.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: There's something about the way they cook their eggs. Yeah,
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: it's just it's just real and honest, Like I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, it's not like at home where it's dry,
• 15:31
  Speaker 9: but sounds like you didn't know how to just make
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  Speaker 9: any kind of scrambled eggs.
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I feel like that's like there's like
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: toast hot pockets and.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Making a strambled good kind if you ate it like
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you do at home, you're like, eh, yeah, I'm gonna
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: remember you're I'm gonna be being eighteen eighteen dollars for
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: these two scriptled that's true, and expect them to you
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: know that Gordon Ramsay style has like the butter and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, but it's interesting, like how do you
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: verify stuff for that job? Because I feel like we
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: always talk about background checks and job interviews and you think, okay,
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: somebody singing in office, but it's like, Okay, you need
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: to verify the skills for cook jobs and chef jobs
• 16:12
  Speaker 9: and like yeah, on on site jobs and things like that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 9: It's like, you do need to have that job before,
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: so very like the skills somehow. Yeah, all right, em,
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: what's up?
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, let me scroll? That was what I have to scroll. Okay,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: this is a story that was submended to us. They
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: wanted to stay anonymous, so I won't be.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: Saying it was just anonymous. Marcus, is it you?
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: No, it was not Marcus.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: A few years ago, when I was working at a
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: very small biotech startup, I hired a lab assistant. The
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: role was straightforward basic benchwork, inventory management, and general lab upkeep.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: We found a candidate with an impressive resume, strong relevant coursework,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and a master's degree, so we brought them on. Like
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: many small startups, we didn't have HR, so all hiring
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: a performance of thatuation fell on me, not me, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: the person that suit.
• 17:04
  Speaker 10: Not me.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: On their first day, they disclosed that they were nerdivergent
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and proceeded to sit at their computer for the remainder
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: of the day. The nerd divergence was definitely not an issue,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: but the job required activity on the lab floor. Benchwork
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: isn't strenuous, but it is hands on and requires being
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: physically present. From the start, I had to repeatedly prompt
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: them to step away from their desk and engage in training.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Any task I assigned would be completed as quickly and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: poorly as possible, followed by an immediate return to the computer.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: At first, I assumed this was a communication issue, so
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I focused on building more structure and support. I created
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: an improvement plan with a daily schedule, step by step
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: rent and instructions, and tasks broken into hourly time blocks.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Despite these efforts, I could rarely get more than three
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: or four consistent hours of work from them before they
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: disengaged and returned to their desk. There were also gaps
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: in Microsoft Office skills such as Excel, which made all
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: of the computer time even more difficult to account for.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Well early on, I realized they were working a side
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: job during work hours. I addressed this directly, explaining that
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: this wasn't an appropriate use of company time. Their response
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: was that they had had nothing to do, quote unquote,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: despite having responsibilities assigned by the hour. On another occasion,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: they stepped away from their computer and left explicit fan
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: fiction visible on their screen. Oh jeez, I nearly lost
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: my mind. I followed up with a firm, professional email
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and a serious face to face conversation, but by then
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I was already burned out from trying to do both
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: my job and theirs with very little guidance. Eventually we
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: got acquired and I jumped ship for another company.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Oh wow.
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: The new hour was eventually terminated when my former coworkers
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: realized there was no amount of structure that could salvage
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: this person's performance. A very hard lesson for me on
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: paying attention to job fit at least as much, if
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: not more than as qualifications.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah that's tough.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, guys around here, because I haven't no idea,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and I hope this is not bad, But like, okay,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: what is neurodivergin.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Neurodivergence is like an umbrella term for somebody that has
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: Uh qualities of somebody with like autism or ADHD.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: Or or something like that or some type of spectrum. Yes,
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: is it? Is it?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: So I was saying yeah for the sake generalizing and
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: somebody yeah potentially on a spectrum, but yes, yeah, so
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: it's a part of it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but it sounds like there's skill issues and things
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: like that at the start, but also like just poor
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: behavior too, which.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: Is yeah, that's gotta be uh, that's that's that that
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: makes something really more complicated when you're just trying to
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: deal with you know, how do I accommodate in best
• 19:49
  Speaker 11: get the best work out of this person you know
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: that's neurodivergent or got this on the spectrum somehow, and.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Which of this is just just bad behavior like you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: reading and reading reading a rock fan fiction is yeah, yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's it's still a different than I know, how to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you excel?
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Well yeah, yeah, So I don't know. What's crazy is
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: that she stuck with it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: She ended up leaving.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: Before that before the person did.
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what's crazy about some of these stories is
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: that some of them are like the Starbucks bags, where
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: it's like people are just like fired like that, like
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: something kind of small like all that, Yeah we fired
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: them on the first day, Like oh, that's kind of extreme.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: And then sometimes it's like there's a lot that people
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: go through and they like air never let go or
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: it kind of spends on the person in the organization.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: And things like how much people are willing to put
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: up with and be patient through and things like that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Do you remember that you remember the story from a
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: It was the the girl was so sweet and yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like yes the story, Yes, it was that, I admit,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and she was talking about how this guy is this
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the guy that like didn't show up?
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Is that the same story where it was one of
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: the ones react to were.
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: Like he he followed up a lot during the intergy process,
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: but then when it was time for him to be hired,
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: he just never showed up, but he went and started
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: his own kept trying.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: To redegotiare maybe I should be hybrid maybe you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just remember how yeah, and I was
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just thinking about, you know, as a recruiter, just how
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to invested they get in this.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: You know, they've been through an entire process and you
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: finally find the persons almost like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you get embarrassed for other people, like
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you're embarrassed and you're also I think I think that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: must you know, there's certainly amount of frustration and sometimes
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: probably embarrassed, especially somebody just lets you down after you've
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: done put.
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: All the work into especially in recruiting, because as recruiter,
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: you're essentially a professional, like you're vouching for this person.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: Like you're like, hey, to the other people you're hiring for,
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: whether it's you an outside recruiter or like a recruiter
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: for your own company, you're like, hey, I found this person,
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: let me vouch for them. They're gonna be a really
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: good fit. And they have all these skills. They're exactly
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: what you're looking for. You're putting yourself out there. Said,
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: then when it doesn't work out, it makes you look
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: extra bad. So that's why and another thing to start
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: out to be doing the stories. Listen to her describe
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: what this job did.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm always impressed by recruiters, especially when they get
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: specialties or in some organizations where maybe they're hiring engineers,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: right and pretty soon they i mean they know about engineering.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I mean they could they can dig into the skills
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of an engineer. They know how to identify whether one's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: being honest or not. Yeah, you know, they develop a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: real skill around that, and that's.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: Probably super valuable. Yeah yeah, but wow, she bolted, Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: it's stuff, some real life stuff there. All right. Hey,
• 22:36
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