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Bengals Booth Podcast: Can't Stand Losing · Bengals Booth Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and this is the
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Speaker 1: Bengals boot Podcast. I can't, I can't, I can't stand
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Speaker 1: lose in I can't, I can't, I can't stand lose
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Speaker 1: in edition, as the Bengals franchise record losing streak stands
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Speaker 1: at thirteen games over the last two seasons following a
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Speaker 1: sixteen to ten loss to their Tormentors from Western Pa,
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker
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Speaker 1: room comments, and Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Plus,
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Speaker 1: in this week's fun Facts Conversation, we'll meet the person
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Speaker 1: under the pads is. I'll talk to a Bengals defensive
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Speaker 1: lineman who says if he could meet anybody on Earth,
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Speaker 1: it would be the world's third wealthiest person, Warren Buffett.
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Speaker 1: All of that is straight ahead, but first, here's a
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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steeler's dominance at Paul Brown Stadium defies logic
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Speaker 1: and almost defies description. Heading into Sunday's game, the Steelers
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Speaker 1: all time record at PBS was eighteen and three. Let
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Speaker 1: me repeat that, eighteen and three, but most of those
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Speaker 1: wins were started by Ben Roethlisberger fifteen and two at
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Speaker 1: Paul Brown Stadium, but Big Ben obviously wasn't in uniform
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Speaker 1: this time due to his season ending elbow injury. Instead,
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Speaker 1: the Steelers QB was Mason Rudolph in his first start
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Speaker 1: since Myles Garrett tried to club him in the noggin
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Speaker 1: with Rudolph's own helmet. Rudolph through four interceptions last week
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland and through another in the first quarter on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: Rudolph back to throw his past It's deflected is intercepted
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Speaker 1: at the four yard line, and the Bengals are running
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Speaker 1: it back Seawan Williams to the fifteen yard line. That's
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Speaker 1: where he's tackled as Cincinnati gets a deflection at the
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and the ball floated right into the
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Speaker 1: arms of safety Sean Williams. Carlos Dunlap deflected the pass
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Speaker 1: and the game was scoreless after a quarter. The Bengals
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Speaker 1: dodged a bullet on that drive, but the next time
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Speaker 1: the Steelers reached the red zone they took the lead.
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Speaker 1: Chris Boswell into attempt at twenty six yard field goal try.
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Speaker 1: He has never missed a kick in his life against
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Speaker 1: the Sins and Eddie Bengals. Would you believe forty four
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Speaker 1: for forty four between field goals and Pats make it
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Speaker 1: forty five for forty five as he drills the short
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Speaker 1: field goal and gives the Steelers a three nothing lead
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Speaker 1: with three twenty one left in the half. To that point,
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Speaker 1: the Bengals offense had been anemic under rookie quarterback Ryan Finley.
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Speaker 1: They had a total of twenty seven yards on their
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Speaker 1: first four possessions, but that changed in the blink of
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Speaker 1: an eye thanks to Tyler Boyd. Finley fakes a hand off,
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Speaker 1: he's back to throw, looking looking cutting it deep down
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Speaker 1: field for Tyler boy Baby makes a one hand to
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Speaker 1: catch at the Pittsburgh fifty yard line on a grab
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Speaker 1: with a left hand despite blank at coverage by Terrell Edmonds.
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Speaker 1: That forty seven yard game put the Bengals at the
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Speaker 1: fifteen yard line, and on the next play, Finley went
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Speaker 1: right back to number eighty three. Bengals have two receivers
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Speaker 1: out to the right, one out to the left. Finley
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Speaker 1: waiting for a shotgun snap back at the money, he'll
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Speaker 1: look to pass. He's gonna throw it for the end
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Speaker 1: zone and Tyler Boyd he goes up, he grabs the ball.
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Speaker 1: It's a touchdown as he pushed off. Joe had him
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Speaker 1: no penalty flag and then Boyd hauld it in for
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Speaker 1: a Bengals touchdown that gave the Bengals their biggest halftime
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Speaker 1: lead of the year, seven to three. Here's Ryan Finlay,
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Speaker 1: I'm Tyler Boyd. Unbelievable play by Tyler. He's just a playmaker,
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Speaker 1: and we talked about all week. Just given him a
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Speaker 1: chance on those one on one fifty fifty balls and
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Speaker 1: he's gonna come down with it. He did it twice
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Speaker 1: in a row. He did it on that one and
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Speaker 1: then he did it for the touchdown. So unbelievable job
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Speaker 1: by him. He's he's a heck of a player and
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Speaker 1: we need to do that more. Just give him opportunity
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Speaker 1: to just make a play. The Steelers got the ball
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Speaker 1: to begin the third quarter and went backward on their
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Speaker 1: first possession of the second half, rud off back to throw,
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Speaker 1: bouncing in the pocket, night to scramble and sacked the
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Speaker 1: ball at the very end. That should be intentional grounding.
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Speaker 1: He was definitely in the grass. They're going to just
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Speaker 1: call it a sack. Back at the eleven yard line
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Speaker 1: and big Andrew Billings grabbed Mason Rudolph. At that point,
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Speaker 1: Steelers coach Mike Tomlin had seen enough. Rudolph had a
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Speaker 1: passer rating of thirty nine point eight and the Steelers
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Speaker 1: had just three points after seven possessions, so Tomlin yanked
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Speaker 1: Rudolph and turned to undrafted rookie quarterback Devlin duck Hodges.
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Speaker 1: He got the nickname when he won a national duck
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Speaker 1: calling contest a decade ago, and it took him just
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Speaker 1: three plays to give Pittsburgh the lease second and seventeen.
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Speaker 1: He catches this one cleanly, looking to pass fires deep
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Speaker 1: down the midfield, James Washington wide open, a Bengal fell down.
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Speaker 1: Washington sprinting down the field, stiff arms b W. Webb
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Speaker 1: pushes him over and runs into the end zone for
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Speaker 1: a seventy nine yard touchdown. Unbelievable. The pass was thrown
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Speaker 1: about thirty yards down field. Will Jackson slipped next to
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Speaker 1: Washington as he caught the ball, and Webb got pushed
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Speaker 1: over near the twenty five yard line. Here's BW on
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Speaker 1: Washington's big play. I made a good play. See, I
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Speaker 1: just couldn't. I gotta get him down. The Bengals were
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Speaker 1: able to answer thanks to strong running by Joe Mixon.
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Speaker 1: He carried eighteen times for seventy nine yards in the game,
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Speaker 1: and thirty eight of those yards came on Cincinnati's next
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Speaker 1: drive to set up a game time field goal. Kevin
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Speaker 1: Huber ready for the snap from Clark, Harris, extends the
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Speaker 1: right hand, catches it, puts it down, Bullocks kick on
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Speaker 1: its way. It is good, and the Bengals have tied
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Speaker 1: the game with five h seven left. Here in the
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Speaker 1: third quarter, it was ten ten going to the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: The Steelers got the ball with fourteen twenty to go,
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Speaker 1: and on third and eight at their own thirty one,
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Speaker 1: Hodges threw an incompletion that appeared to end the drive,
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Speaker 1: but a late penalty flag came out for pass interference
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Speaker 1: on b W Webb, a questionable call that the Bengals
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Speaker 1: did not challenge. On the very next play, Webb was
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Speaker 1: called for another pass interference penalty, this time guilty is charged,
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Speaker 1: giving the Steelers twenty six more yards. I told you
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Speaker 1: before we started doing this interview, I was surprised the
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Speaker 1: team didn't challenge the first interference call against you. Did
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Speaker 1: you think that you did anything there? I don't think
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Speaker 1: I did, But I mean, I guess the riff see
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Speaker 1: something that the whole world didn't see. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can't complain. A buddy called it, gotta move them.
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Speaker 1: Was that in your head on the next play? Nope,
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Speaker 1: not at all, the DD man we short memory get
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Speaker 1: onto the next play. Those penalties led to a forty
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Speaker 1: seven yard field goal by Chris Boswell, giving Pittsburgh a
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Speaker 1: thirteen to ten lead. There was plenty of time left,
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Speaker 1: and it looked like the Bengals were going to take
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Speaker 1: the lead. Right back first and ten at the Pittsburgh
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Speaker 1: thirty finley under center fakes a handoff. He's back to
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Speaker 1: throw half time, floats it deep, caught by Boyd at
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Speaker 1: the ten. The ball comes out, the Steelers scoop it
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Speaker 1: up at the six. They're running it back. Make a
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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick at the forty and he'll be pulled down at
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Speaker 1: the forty three yard line. Real Tyler. Boyd finished with
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Speaker 1: five catches for one hundred one yards, but his fumble
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Speaker 1: cost the Bengals a first in goal opportunity near the
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Speaker 1: five yard line. You know, I for like um, I'll
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Speaker 1: put Filly in a horrible situation. Man. I put him
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Speaker 1: in a tough, tough situation. He's a first year player,
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Speaker 1: and uh man, I make that play. We three more plays.
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Speaker 1: I try to get an in down therest we backed up.
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Speaker 1: I really do, honestly believe if I make this play
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Speaker 1: and I hold the ball and we win the game.
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Speaker 1: Kevin Bush just got a hand in there and punched
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Speaker 1: it out. He made a great tackle. You know, if
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Speaker 1: I just secured the ball, yeah, don't happen. Cincinnati never
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Speaker 1: threatened again after another Boswell field goal made at sixteen ten.
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Speaker 1: The Bengals got the ball for the final time with
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Speaker 1: about three minutes to go, ready to snap it on
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Speaker 1: second down in two in a tightly bunched for me,
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Speaker 1: Finley back to throw. Good protection. Now the pocket closes
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Speaker 1: and Bud Dupre knocks the ball away from Ryan Finley.
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Speaker 1: He's got the football and the Steelers recover. He's at
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Speaker 1: the twenty one yard line. Finley has got to understand
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Speaker 1: that you have to have ball security in the pocket.
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Speaker 1: Every time he gets it in the pocket, it seems
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Speaker 1: like the ball comes out. Finley has fumbled four times
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Speaker 1: in three starts. He's completed forty seven percent of his
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Speaker 1: throws and has a passer rating of sixty two point one.
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Speaker 1: More importantly, the Bengals are owing three in those games,
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Speaker 1: scoring thirteen, ten and ten points. They're rowing eleven overall.
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Speaker 1: After losing to the Steelers sixteen to ten, Laps spend
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Speaker 1: four minutes with Zach Taylor after the game. Coach, it's
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Speaker 1: you know, if a frustrating game, obviously you had had chances,
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Speaker 1: had chances to win this football game, put it away.
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Speaker 1: I mean, turnovers always end up being a big story
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Speaker 1: in every football game, and this year. You haven't had
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Speaker 1: a game where you're plus. You finished the game with
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Speaker 1: a plus category, you've been even. And I had one
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Speaker 1: turnover advantage, but in the second half they got a
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Speaker 1: couple of takeaways and they proved to be a big
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Speaker 1: difference in the football game, you know it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's we're eleven so far and winning the turnover battle.
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Speaker 1: You know, we had the big one in the first
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Speaker 1: half where the defense made a huge play that got
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Speaker 1: things in the right direction for us. But in the
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Speaker 1: second half we gave to them away. And that's you're
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Speaker 1: gonna lose a lot of games in the NFL when
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Speaker 1: you're playing that way, the game can be so cruel.
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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd had a big day. I mean, he had
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Speaker 1: five catches over one hundred yards and he catches the
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Speaker 1: football and you know, you have to give Bush credit.
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Speaker 1: He got beaten, but he stayed after it and Tomahawk
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Speaker 1: chopped and punched and the ball came out and that
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Speaker 1: turned into you know, I mean, you had at least
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Speaker 1: three maybe more, and then you know, Fitzpatrick flips field
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Speaker 1: position by forty yards. I mean that play was a
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Speaker 1: big one, wasn't it. It is we got to do
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Speaker 1: a better job with the Paul security. That's what Steelers
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Speaker 1: really have made their living on this year is creating turnovers,
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Speaker 1: defense and flip in the field. And they did a
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Speaker 1: great job. Credits to them, Ryan Finley. Uh. In terms
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Speaker 1: of ball security, I mean in the pocket when he
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Speaker 1: gets hit, seems like the balls and you you had
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Speaker 1: mentioned it, you know a while back, that he has
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Speaker 1: to not be as loose with the football when he's
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Speaker 1: running with it or you know, in the pocket. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's a tough lesson that he's learning, isn't it. That's
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Speaker 1: that's part of quarterback players. You're gonna be strong with
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Speaker 1: the ball in the pocket and know that when a
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Speaker 1: play gets extended as long as it goes sometimes they're
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Speaker 1: gonna be coming after that thing. And they had good addreshers.
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Speaker 1: I think the pre got the last one from what
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Speaker 1: I could see. And so those guys have an act
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Speaker 1: for that kind of stuff and you can't let that
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Speaker 1: beacha and today it did so Bush. That was the
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Speaker 1: fifth fumble that that kid's forced. I think he might
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Speaker 1: be might be leading the National Football League. And like
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, coming into the game, they were I think
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Speaker 1: twenty six takeaways, second most in the in the league.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, and I think I remember that of
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Speaker 1: the two hundred points they scored as an offense, ninety
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Speaker 1: four were set up by by defensive plays. And that
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Speaker 1: was kind of the story of today's game as well.
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Speaker 1: There was that's that's what they've done all all season.
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Speaker 1: We talked about it, we knew that was going to
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Speaker 1: be a big part of the game, and we still
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Speaker 1: let it come up and bite us. So you got
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback that you know, hasn't completed fifty percent
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Speaker 1: of his passes yet and is maybe you know, working
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Speaker 1: hard to see the field, but not getting it out,
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Speaker 1: maybe as quickly as he's he hopes he might, and
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Speaker 1: maybe as you hope he might. How do you how
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Speaker 1: do you expedite that process? How do you, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: accelerate that part of his game. Well, it's it's again,
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Speaker 1: it's on the whole unit. Everyone's got to do their job.
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if we hit that big play
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Speaker 1: down there, and we have the ball down around the
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Speaker 1: ten yard line, we score, then we're really not in
12:34
Speaker 1: a position to where we got to drop back and
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Speaker 1: have those ball scurty issues. So again, it's it's everyone
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Speaker 1: just got to do a great job and and help
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback out and um, we'll get there. So
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Speaker 1: at this point, eleven losses, six of them now by
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Speaker 1: a score or less, seven of them by ten points
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Speaker 1: or less. And it's not like it's not it's not there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the possibility of winning football games is there.
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Speaker 1: It's just getting that that final It's one play. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just getting over that hump with a player two,
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Speaker 1: just missing that game changing your play, and it can
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Speaker 1: be in any phase of the game. Um, that's what
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Speaker 1: we need. We need to step up and someone make
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Speaker 1: that play in the fourth quarter, and unfortunately today we
13:14
Speaker 1: weren't able to make that happen. I'm sure you I
13:17
Speaker 1: always appreciate your carving time with us because I know
13:19
Speaker 1: you've already had your presser, and I'm sure it was
13:21
Speaker 1: this question was asked, what's your thought? I know, you
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Speaker 1: know the game's over, there's emotions and all that, but
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Speaker 1: your thought at the quarterback position, do you stay with
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Speaker 1: Ryan Finley? Do you make a change there? What do
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Speaker 1: you do well? Well, the comment I made was if
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Speaker 1: you've benched every quarterback, every rookie after three games, and
13:35
Speaker 1: there'd be no quarterbacks in this league. You know, it's
13:38
Speaker 1: it's uh. You got to give those time guys a
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Speaker 1: chance to grow and correct the mistakes and really see
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Speaker 1: what you got. Your defense two games in a row,
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Speaker 1: gave up seventeen points, gave up sixteen points in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I mean that that's winning play on that side of
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Speaker 1: the football. You have to be proud of how your
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Speaker 1: defense has come out. It is, you know, and we
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Speaker 1: got to match that on the other side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: You know, we get a big, planing, special team something.
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Speaker 1: But our defense the last two weeks, I think that
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Speaker 1: they've done the things that we've asked them to do
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Speaker 1: and they've given us a chance to win. Before we
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Speaker 1: get to analysis, let's hear from one more player. Cordy
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Speaker 1: Glenn was the Bengals left tackle on Sunday, playing for
14:15
Speaker 1: the first time since Week two of the preseason. Glenn
14:19
Speaker 1: spent nearly two months in concussion protocol and spoke to
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Speaker 1: reporters after the game. Or is it meaningful to be
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Speaker 1: back out there? Cordy? Yeah, it felt good. I mean
14:27
Speaker 1: I haven't played football and so long. I mean, especially
14:30
Speaker 1: planning against the Stillers Ashley was fun. I mean, obviously
14:33
Speaker 1: we didn't win a game, but it felt great to
14:35
Speaker 1: be back out there, especially when you like, you don't
14:37
Speaker 1: know which if you could play football or how your
14:40
Speaker 1: career is gonna go, and it's kind of up and now,
14:42
Speaker 1: did you think that your career was in jeopardy? I
14:45
Speaker 1: mean you don't. I mean obviously you don't. I mean
14:46
Speaker 1: you don't know. I mean, and it was one of
14:48
Speaker 1: a certain type of injuries. It's kind of like kind
14:50
Speaker 1: of question everything. So it felt great to be out there. Everybody.
14:53
Speaker 1: Do you feel like stuff that's been said about you
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Speaker 1: has been unfair? I don't. I honestly, I really don't
15:03
Speaker 1: try to read into that and read too much into that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, stuff is gonna be sad about anybody, good
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Speaker 1: or bad. I don't know butt end of the day,
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Speaker 1: Like I can control as with my thoughts are in
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Speaker 1: my head and that's kind of how I live life.
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Speaker 1: Have you kind of reached out I let bygones be bygones,
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Speaker 1: point with you know, teammates, coaches, whatever, where you just
15:22
Speaker 1: want to kind of move forward from here. Yeah, I
15:25
Speaker 1: mean it's been like that for a while. I mean
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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, whatever the internet was, I don't
15:29
Speaker 1: know how long ago was, I mean, kind of soon's
15:32
Speaker 1: it happened. I kind of just kind of wanted to
15:34
Speaker 1: let it go then. But I don't know. It's just
15:37
Speaker 1: I don't know. I try to just press forward every
15:39
Speaker 1: day and I don't try to, you know, hold on
15:41
Speaker 1: the things too long, and just you know, just keep
15:43
Speaker 1: working and trying to help the team out. It's all
15:45
Speaker 1: I really think about, not so much, you know, worrying about, Oh,
15:51
Speaker 1: this happened, so I have to like, you know, just
15:52
Speaker 1: dragging on, dragging on and just keep it going, just
15:54
Speaker 1: kind of move forward and just just let it go.
15:57
Speaker 1: Do you have a year left on your deal? Could
15:59
Speaker 1: you see yourself thing here? I mean, I can see
16:01
Speaker 1: a lot of different scenarios. I mean, honestly, I don't know.
16:03
Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, I'm just trying to go out
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Speaker 1: there and play hard as I can these last couple
16:07
Speaker 1: of games, and whatever happens happening. I mean, I can't
16:10
Speaker 1: control that. Difficult has it been for you just to
16:12
Speaker 1: watch the season play out from the sidelines? I mean,
16:15
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's I think it's extremely difficult, not
16:18
Speaker 1: only just watching the season or watching all the games
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Speaker 1: from the sidelines, just not knowing like what's your future holds,
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Speaker 1: because you know it's certain type of injuries you can't
16:25
Speaker 1: really control or you can't really it's not like, oh,
16:28
Speaker 1: it's it's a four to six week thing. You're just
16:30
Speaker 1: like you kind of have to you don't know when
16:31
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel better or whatever. So I mean, it
16:33
Speaker 1: felt great to be out there today and helping the
16:36
Speaker 1: team out. Obviously I got to finish it in the game,
16:38
Speaker 1: but when we fell hard and we know we need
16:41
Speaker 1: to do and we're real close. I've been closed for
16:45
Speaker 1: the last two games, but that doesn't mean much when
16:49
Speaker 1: you've gone three hundred forty three days without a win.
16:53
Speaker 1: Time for postgame analysis with lap. Bottom line to me
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Speaker 1: is pretty simple. Today Lap, the defense played well enough
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Speaker 1: to win. The offense did not. Two weeks in a row,
17:03
Speaker 1: same story out Noakland. Defense played well enough to win,
17:06
Speaker 1: offense didn't. Today, defense plays well enough to win, offense
17:11
Speaker 1: does it. You have a rookie quarterback that's struggling to
17:13
Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hand in a timely fashion.
17:16
Speaker 1: One thing you can say about Andy Dalton. You can
17:18
Speaker 1: criticize a lot of things if you want to, but
17:21
Speaker 1: never criticize he got the ball out of his hand.
17:24
Speaker 1: It was always like, oh, he's right there. He's won
17:26
Speaker 1: two or three in the league in terms of time
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Speaker 1: from receiving a snap to getting it out of his hand.
17:31
Speaker 1: I mean, the only guy quicker a lot of times
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Speaker 1: was Brady so Andy Dalton saw it and get rid
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Speaker 1: of it. And right now Ryan Finley is struggling in
17:40
Speaker 1: that area holding onto the football. And I mean the
17:43
Speaker 1: protection was light years better than it was in Pittsburgh,
17:47
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But you know Ryan had
17:51
Speaker 1: issues holding onto it. And then when he gets hit
17:54
Speaker 1: holding onto the football, the ball security part of it.
17:56
Speaker 1: You know, strip sack and fumble recovery by Duke Free
18:00
Speaker 1: late in the football game, early in the game, t J.
18:02
Speaker 1: Watt sack, strip, don't don't lose his Bengals recover it.
18:06
Speaker 1: But those kind of things are killer. You know, you
18:09
Speaker 1: have to He's had Ryan's had turnovers in every game,
18:12
Speaker 1: every game. The Scott and report on Ryan Finley coming
18:15
Speaker 1: out of NC State was that his strengths were anticipation
18:18
Speaker 1: and accuracy. He's compleating less than fifty percent of his
18:22
Speaker 1: throws through three starts, and as you mentioned, he isn't
18:25
Speaker 1: seeing things all that great and is having a hard
18:27
Speaker 1: time getting the ball out of his hands, you know.
18:29
Speaker 1: And part of it too is maybe he's seeing it,
18:31
Speaker 1: but it's not there. You know. It's the same problem
18:34
Speaker 1: that we've talked about all season long in that there's
18:37
Speaker 1: no receivers to take the top off a defense, and
18:40
Speaker 1: everybody is playing everything, you know, in front of them.
18:43
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nobody. Nobody is challenging them to open
18:47
Speaker 1: up areas of the football field, so there's tight traffic everywhere.
18:50
Speaker 1: I mean, his windows a lot of times are not big,
18:53
Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes he's not putting enough zip on
18:57
Speaker 1: the football. I mean, there's a myriad of issues. Some
19:00
Speaker 1: of them come back to him, for sure. Do some
19:02
Speaker 1: of them come back to his receivers, absolutely at times,
19:05
Speaker 1: to some come back to the offensive line, no doubt.
19:07
Speaker 1: Bottom line is it's just not good enough offensively, and
19:09
Speaker 1: they wasted two winning defensive performances on the back to
19:13
Speaker 1: back weeks that you just can't waste in the NFL.
19:17
Speaker 1: You have described to me in the past after the
19:19
Speaker 1: some of the tough games in your NFL career, you'd
19:22
Speaker 1: lie in bed at night replaying the game on the ceiling. Essentially,
19:27
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd's going to have one of those nights. He's
19:30
Speaker 1: so upset with himself for that fumble inside the ten
19:33
Speaker 1: that basically killed the Bengals last good chance. Yeah, he was.
19:37
Speaker 1: He was about to stand up. As I can recall,
19:39
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is a is a man's man, you know.
19:41
Speaker 1: I mean, he had five catches for one hundred yards,
19:43
Speaker 1: so he put him in position. You know, he had
19:46
Speaker 1: the play where Ryan Finley just you know, Ryan Finnley
19:49
Speaker 1: said it was an unbelievable play. He wasn't even open.
19:52
Speaker 1: I just said, Okay, I'm going to give him a
19:53
Speaker 1: shot and see if he can win. And he won
19:55
Speaker 1: one on a fifty fifty ball, just on a shoulder pad,
19:58
Speaker 1: cradling the thing. It was amazing to see. And then
20:02
Speaker 1: follows it up with a fifteen yard touchdown reception. But
20:05
Speaker 1: I mean the fumble. You know, you have to give
20:07
Speaker 1: a linebacker Bush a lot of credit. He was beaten.
20:09
Speaker 1: You got a wide receiver on a running back. I
20:11
Speaker 1: don't care if you're a rookie or a twenty year veteran.
20:14
Speaker 1: That's a matchup you're going to He went to Tyler
20:16
Speaker 1: Boyd and Bush was beaten, but he said, you know what,
20:20
Speaker 1: I'm not quitting on it. Tomahawk chop with the right hand,
20:23
Speaker 1: punch with the left. And that's what the Pittsburgh Steelers
20:26
Speaker 1: are all about coming into the game ninety four. The
20:28
Speaker 1: two hundred points by the offense where courtesy of takeaways
20:31
Speaker 1: by the Steelers defense. They had twenty six coming in.
20:34
Speaker 1: Now make it twenty eight. I mean, they just take
20:36
Speaker 1: it away and give the offense opportunity and might make
20:40
Speaker 1: of Fitzpatrick picks it up and runs on a return
20:42
Speaker 1: for over forty yards to change field position. Because the
20:45
Speaker 1: Bengals were in the red zone. They're scoring points. It's
20:48
Speaker 1: at least three for them, maybe seven, and so you
20:52
Speaker 1: got a huge swing there. That's just astronomical in a
20:55
Speaker 1: tight game like this one. Cordy Glenn returned to the
20:58
Speaker 1: Bengals starting lineup after saying several months in concussion protocol.
21:02
Speaker 1: How did he do and what did you think of
21:04
Speaker 1: his postgame comments? Welcome back. I mean it's about time.
21:10
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean he's the best left tackle they have.
21:12
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He's mammoth h and he
21:15
Speaker 1: can move. He's m squared, you know, he's got movement,
21:19
Speaker 1: and he is a mammoth behemoth, So I mean he's
21:22
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna pass protect. Dupree, you know, had a
21:26
Speaker 1: couple of couple of plays, but he's gonna have a
21:28
Speaker 1: couple of plays on just about everybody. Again, I think
21:31
Speaker 1: that has Probably his pass protection was better than his
21:33
Speaker 1: run run game. Um, he didn't have to worry about
21:37
Speaker 1: conditioning because they had thirty thousand and three and ounce,
21:39
Speaker 1: so that wasn't any kind of an issue. It was
21:42
Speaker 1: literally eight or nine, wasn't it. Three and outs? I
21:44
Speaker 1: think eight that's mind boggling. So you know, you weren't
21:48
Speaker 1: gonna you weren't gonna have to worry about endurance, you
21:51
Speaker 1: know when you're off the field, and three snaps like that. So, um,
21:55
Speaker 1: I think it's a good starting point. You know, he
21:57
Speaker 1: talked about finishing, which I think is something that everybody
22:01
Speaker 1: has to take into consideration. You have to improve in
22:04
Speaker 1: that area. Obviously finished plays and then finished games. But yeah,
22:09
Speaker 1: it was interesting in terms of you know, taking so
22:14
Speaker 1: long to play. I don't know, I just don't know
22:18
Speaker 1: what to make of it other than you know, I
22:20
Speaker 1: think in all of his teammates estimation and everybody else.
22:23
Speaker 1: It was just so long, so long, and he didn't
22:27
Speaker 1: want to get into the I asked him, was it headaches,
22:29
Speaker 1: was it dizzyness? Was it balanced? He didn't want to
22:32
Speaker 1: get into it. So bottom line is he's back, and
22:35
Speaker 1: they're better at left tackle with Corty Glynn now Ben Roethlisberger.
22:39
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph didn't have his helmet taken away by Miles
22:42
Speaker 1: Garrett today. He had it taken away by his head coach.
22:44
Speaker 1: He got benched in favor of rookie Devlin Duck Hodges,
22:49
Speaker 1: and one seventy nine yard touchdown pass was enough for
22:52
Speaker 1: the Steelers to come into Paul Brown Stadium yet again
22:56
Speaker 1: and leave town to the win. They've won seven straight
22:59
Speaker 1: games at Paul Brown Stadium. Tomlin is just Tomlin. No
23:05
Speaker 1: Ben Rothsburg, but the Pittsburgh Steelers in general, it's Pittsburgh West.
23:09
Speaker 1: They're more comfortable here at Paul Brown Stadium, and I
23:11
Speaker 1: think any stadium in the National Football League. It's almost ridiculous.
23:16
Speaker 1: You know, they've won ten in a row. Now, they've
23:19
Speaker 1: won thirteen out of fourteen, eighteen out of twenty one.
23:23
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy how much they've dominated this series
23:27
Speaker 1: nineteen and three all time. Here at Paul Brown Stadium.
23:32
Speaker 1: You are shaking your head. I'm stupefied. Up next a
23:37
Speaker 1: home game against the Jets. Three weeks ago, when the
23:41
Speaker 1: Bengals were oo and eight, the Jets were one in seven.
23:44
Speaker 1: Now New York is four and seven after wins over
23:48
Speaker 1: the Giants, Redskins, and Raiders. The first two wins were
23:53
Speaker 1: against weak opponents, but they smoked the six and four
23:56
Speaker 1: Raiders on Sunday thirty four to three. Oakland's loss and
24:01
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's win puts the Steelers back into the sixth and
24:05
Speaker 1: final playoffs slot in the AFC, at least for now.
24:10
Speaker 1: Now time for this week's fun facts conversation as we
24:12
Speaker 1: get to know the person under the pads. This week,
24:16
Speaker 1: it's a member of last year's draft class. Time for
24:19
Speaker 1: some fun facts with Bengals defensive lineman Andrew Brown from Chesapeake,
24:23
Speaker 1: Virginia in the Virginia Beach Norfolk area. Did you grow
24:27
Speaker 1: up in the city or the country suburbs? It was
24:30
Speaker 1: like in between, for it wasn't really like necessary the city.
24:34
Speaker 1: But yeah, what'd you do for fun as a kid
24:38
Speaker 1: than as a kid play football? For if we realize
24:42
Speaker 1: that was the only outlet I have beside you know,
24:44
Speaker 1: ian ice cream and watching TV shows all day. Andrew,
24:49
Speaker 1: you're a big man now, and you are a big kid.
24:52
Speaker 1: I've read that the other kids weren't always kind and
24:56
Speaker 1: and they were. I got picked on a lot growing up,
24:58
Speaker 1: you know, as if I'd always be in the biggest guy,
25:00
Speaker 1: you know, I will always go home and cross the
25:02
Speaker 1: other my mom and stuff like that. It's just funny, man,
25:04
Speaker 1: because the tables turned one that I actually saw one
25:07
Speaker 1: of the kids they used to bullying me in high
25:08
Speaker 1: school my senior year, and I recognized and it was
25:13
Speaker 1: just crazy how the tables at the turn. He remembered too,
25:16
Speaker 1: how he used to pickle me back in the day.
25:19
Speaker 1: So it was funny, man. Did it turn as you
25:21
Speaker 1: became a star athlete? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
25:25
Speaker 1: Everybody hated me then everybody looked just like that. Crazy
25:29
Speaker 1: we're doing fun facts with Andrew Brown. You mentioned your
25:32
Speaker 1: mom and she passed away when you were young. You
25:34
Speaker 1: were eleven years old when she passed away from cancer.
25:37
Speaker 1: Did that bring you and your dad close together? But
25:40
Speaker 1: she had passed away from cardiac arrest. She had half
25:42
Speaker 1: breast cancer, she was ten years and remission. Yeah, it
25:45
Speaker 1: was crazy, man, but it definitely affected the family dynamic,
25:48
Speaker 1: you know when she passed away. But we we dealt
25:51
Speaker 1: with it and we got closer together. She inspires you
25:54
Speaker 1: to this thing. Oh yeah, always every day I wake
25:56
Speaker 1: up in the morning think about it. You wore the
25:59
Speaker 1: number nine at Virginia as a tribute to her. Correct ye.
26:03
Speaker 1: Because of December ninth, two thousand and seven, which is
26:05
Speaker 1: coming up. So as a senior in high school, you
26:10
Speaker 1: are the National Gatorade High School Football Player of the Year.
26:15
Speaker 1: And I don't mean the defensive end of the year.
26:17
Speaker 1: I mean the player of the year. They picked one.
26:20
Speaker 1: So am At Smith won that, Peyton Manning won that,
26:23
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray won it the year after you won it.
26:27
Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that? Is that a blessing
26:29
Speaker 1: or a burden to just have that kind of spotlight
26:32
Speaker 1: placed on you. Honestly, I'll always see that as a
26:34
Speaker 1: blessing because when I was walking the red carpet with
26:38
Speaker 1: all the famous people like in La you know, I
26:41
Speaker 1: said the sp Awards like it opened my eyes and
26:43
Speaker 1: made me realize, like it's a lot to life. And
26:48
Speaker 1: you know, it definitely made me want to work harder
26:50
Speaker 1: so that I'd get back to where I was, you know. Yeah,
26:53
Speaker 1: so as a high school senior you get invited to
26:56
Speaker 1: the SPS as a result, so you are hobnobbed with
27:00
Speaker 1: the biggest name in biggest names in sports as a
27:03
Speaker 1: high school senior. Yeah, it was unreal, Like you saying
27:06
Speaker 1: all of that, man and seeing the way they lived.
27:08
Speaker 1: That lifestyle is side of here, where's the trophy at
27:15
Speaker 1: my pop's house? I got one. They gave me two trophies,
27:17
Speaker 1: one to keep at the school at my high school
27:20
Speaker 1: and then wanted my dad's house. Ye. We're doing fun
27:23
Speaker 1: facts with Andrew Brown. So when you are the national
27:26
Speaker 1: high school football Player of the Year, naturally you could
27:29
Speaker 1: go anywhere. You chose Virginia. Why well, mainly because a
27:34
Speaker 1: lot of the guys from my area was going there
27:36
Speaker 1: at the time. And then also the number one safety
27:40
Speaker 1: and college Quinn Blannet. He was the number one in
27:42
Speaker 1: his position coming out and we were from the same area.
27:44
Speaker 1: We were all from the same area and stuff like that,
27:46
Speaker 1: so we figured, you know, why not trying to put
27:49
Speaker 1: our state on the map. You know, now they're going
27:51
Speaker 1: to bowl games and stuff like that. Man, so I
27:53
Speaker 1: feel like we were definitely a part of the foundation
27:56
Speaker 1: that got things turned around at the school. Doing fun
27:59
Speaker 1: facts with Andrew Brown. They don't hand you a degree
28:02
Speaker 1: in Virginia. It's a very prestigious academic institution and you
28:06
Speaker 1: earned your degree. How did you juggle academics in football? Well, basically,
28:11
Speaker 1: it's all about time management and what you choose to
28:14
Speaker 1: do as your time. Some people choose, you know, they
28:17
Speaker 1: have poor decisions when it comes to that, and I
28:19
Speaker 1: stayed on top of my education. My grind. Basically, just
28:24
Speaker 1: be where you're supposed to be and do your work
28:26
Speaker 1: and that's all. King't field. Man. Did you arrive there
28:30
Speaker 1: with that attitude or did you develop it over the
28:32
Speaker 1: course of your college career. I always had, you know,
28:34
Speaker 1: I had my pops. Man, he was hard on me
28:36
Speaker 1: growing up. I'll talk about having to clean the whole
28:38
Speaker 1: house before going to football practice, you know what I'm saying.
28:41
Speaker 1: So and cut the grad so so we talk about
28:45
Speaker 1: like some hard old stuff. But yeah, man, I was
28:48
Speaker 1: very disciplined going into college. Of the things that you've accomplished,
28:51
Speaker 1: what's made your father proudest? Graduating from college? He says
28:55
Speaker 1: that to me all the time, like he says, you know,
28:58
Speaker 1: because I was the first one to do it in
28:59
Speaker 1: my family. So just for me to be able to
29:02
Speaker 1: change the tide a little bit, it was cool. So
29:05
Speaker 1: after a great career of Virginia, you get invited to
29:07
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and you knocked it out of the park.
29:10
Speaker 1: Scouts started raving about your potential and what they thought
29:13
Speaker 1: your NFL possibilities might be. Did you sense that in
29:17
Speaker 1: the moment. Could you tell that these NFL guys with
29:20
Speaker 1: their notepads were starting to go, oh, who's that guy? Yeah? Yeah,
29:24
Speaker 1: it was fun. Man, I was turning up out there
29:26
Speaker 1: because once I started letting loose out there, like I
29:28
Speaker 1: didn't notice, like the media started to pick us a
29:31
Speaker 1: little bit more, scouts started to tall the least like
29:33
Speaker 1: it was cool. And so after that experience, you wound
29:36
Speaker 1: up being drafted by Cincinnati. Described draft day, man, So
29:40
Speaker 1: I had a beach house of Virginia, beach right, and
29:42
Speaker 1: all my family was there, my friends were there. Man,
29:45
Speaker 1: we was having fun. Man, And when my name got called,
29:48
Speaker 1: of course the whole house. I was actually in the
29:50
Speaker 1: shower when my name got called. And could you believe it? Man?
29:54
Speaker 1: So my name is called the next day, you know,
29:56
Speaker 1: man celebrating the room, my dad and anything. That night
30:01
Speaker 1: we went crazy, you know what I'm saying. We had
30:03
Speaker 1: a good time. So if you're in the shower when
30:06
Speaker 1: you got packed, did it go to voicemail or were
30:08
Speaker 1: you able to scramble and stick your hand? I was
30:12
Speaker 1: able to get the phone and stuff like that. Man,
30:14
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man going crazy? All right? A
30:18
Speaker 1: few nine football topics for Andrew Brown. You are a
30:21
Speaker 1: budding music producer. Correct, yes, tell us about it. It
30:26
Speaker 1: all started when my mom and my grandma enrolled me
30:29
Speaker 1: in piano lessons growing up, and I kind of leaned
30:33
Speaker 1: away from that as I got more serious with football,
30:35
Speaker 1: but I incorporated it within the music production which I found,
30:39
Speaker 1: Like my grandma had bought me this this program called
30:43
Speaker 1: fl Studio one Christmas, and this was in middle school
30:47
Speaker 1: and ever since then. Man, I just always was trying
30:50
Speaker 1: to create new sounds and things like dad was just
30:52
Speaker 1: always a passion that I had. I was good at
30:55
Speaker 1: it and once I got more serious, each Christmas, my
30:58
Speaker 1: dad would buy me a new piece of equip musical
31:00
Speaker 1: equipment go with it, and um it would definitely be
31:04
Speaker 1: like out my outlet off the field. You know what
31:07
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I love it. Man. So earlier this
31:11
Speaker 1: year you faced the Buffalo Bills, and I'm doing my
31:14
Speaker 1: homework on their players, and I read about Cole Beasley
31:17
Speaker 1: and how he's come out with a hip hop album
31:20
Speaker 1: and the off season. I had no idea you collaborated.
31:23
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, we still are. We got a lot,
31:25
Speaker 1: we got a lot of songs coming out, and we're
31:28
Speaker 1: building our portfolio slowly but surely. So for people interested
31:32
Speaker 1: in that type of music, tell them about Cole Beasley
31:34
Speaker 1: and your collaboration. Man, let me tell you something. That
31:37
Speaker 1: boy can rap, like the way like his melody is
31:40
Speaker 1: with his tunes too, like when he um starts to
31:43
Speaker 1: like sing a little bit on the song, as well
31:44
Speaker 1: as pretty cool too. So I'm excited to see how
31:47
Speaker 1: this turns out. Man. This project is gonna be big.
31:49
Speaker 1: So your Twitter handle is Drizzo Beats. Is that the company?
31:55
Speaker 1: All right? That stand for something else? I guess you
31:59
Speaker 1: get called it come, but that's gonna be that's mainly
32:01
Speaker 1: like my name. That's like my producer name. Gotcha. So
32:05
Speaker 1: that's your jay Z right right right? All right? A
32:09
Speaker 1: few more fun facts for Andrew Brown if you could
32:11
Speaker 1: meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, politician, famous historical figure, whatever,
32:20
Speaker 1: who would it be? Warren Buffett? Warren Buffett? For sure?
32:25
Speaker 1: You want to be rich. I'm wealthy. I'm gonna I
32:30
Speaker 1: want to talk to Warren Buffett. And would you seek
32:34
Speaker 1: specific investment advice or just how he thinks? Both? I'll
32:39
Speaker 1: trying to get the whole fact, like just just lock
32:42
Speaker 1: in with him for one, like twenty hours. Talked to
32:45
Speaker 1: him like Picky's brain, you know, see his thought process,
32:49
Speaker 1: See what moves he makes, why he makes those specific moves,
32:52
Speaker 1: you know, so gag from him. It's an excellent answer.
32:56
Speaker 1: Do you have any hidden talents? Hidden talent? I could draw? Really,
33:00
Speaker 1: I could draw pretty good, man, Yeah, especially realism. So
33:05
Speaker 1: do you have your own artwork on display at your
33:07
Speaker 1: apartment or home? No? Man, but I should draw something.
33:11
Speaker 1: But um, I got a couple of like doodles. You
33:14
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on my phone? Tell you still
33:16
Speaker 1: doubt take a picture of It's pretty cool? All right?
33:18
Speaker 1: So you're butting music producer and you can draw on
33:21
Speaker 1: the flip side? What are you absolutely terrible at? Skating?
33:28
Speaker 1: Roller or ice? Both? Don't put me in some skates
33:32
Speaker 1: man tear the floor. I'll tell you I can never
33:36
Speaker 1: get it. I don't know why. You know. B W. Webb,
33:40
Speaker 1: who's from your neck of the woods is an avid skater.
33:43
Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? He's always rolling on his
33:45
Speaker 1: single wheel thing here, So it's like, I'm no surprise. Okay.
33:49
Speaker 1: If you got to choose the talent, music and art
33:53
Speaker 1: are superior to skating. I think you're working out. Okay. Yeah,
33:58
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this best of like the rest of the year.
34:00
Speaker 1: Thanks your time, Thank you, sir. That's fun Facts with
34:03
Speaker 1: Andrew Brown. Here's a quick invitation to join us on
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Speaker 1: location one of our radio shows this week on Friday
34:11
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34:17
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34:20
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34:24
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