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John Haller: ‘America In A Very Dark Place,’ Dangerous Times In Israel · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  But I want to jump right.
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  There's so much going on.
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  Jump right into things with John Haller today.
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  John Haller, welcome back.
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  Good to see you, brother.
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  Let's start with before I want to touch on JD events because you're in Ohio when you
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  may have some inside scoop.
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  But you said in a couple of text exchanges, we are in a very dark place in America.
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  And then you went through this progression of what's happened in recent weeks.
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  Go ahead and share that.
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  Let's just dive into things.
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  Yeah, felt it.
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  Lenin once said that there are decades when only weeks happen, that there are weeks when
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  decades happen.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think that's been true.
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  I mean, everybody I've talked to has said that the news cycle in the last week or two
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  has just been sort of mind boggling and it's sort of like what's real and not.
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  So let's start off with JD events.
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  So JD Vance is the senator from Ohio, the junior senator from Ohio who was elected in
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  2022.
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  I actually participated in a Fox News panel with Martha McCallum and Brett Bear and they
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  had about 12 of us on a small panel and they had a debate with Tim Ryan that evening.
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  So I think the progression of JD when I first became aware of JD, he was getting a lot
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  of speaking invites, a chamber of commerce events because of his book, bestseller book,
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  Hillbilly Elegy.
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  And I will say at that time, so this is probably about eight years ago, I would have put him
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  sort of in the liberal camp when he started to run in 20 and when the he was starting to
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  run for Senate and he was very anti Trump back in 2020 and he's changed over time and
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  I would say that my observation of him is that he has become more conservative over time.
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  And it appears that that's genuine, but there are some areas of concern about him.
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  He started out in a big law firm and with the law school, I believe he's near his wife
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  is Hindu, Indian and Hindu.
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  I have a couple of kids, but you know, I think the growing up experience that he had in
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  Middletown, Ohio and I've done cases down there, it's a very depressed area economically.
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  And I was a famous sociological study back in the 1950s.
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  I was a sociology major in college, so I know a little bit about this, about Middletown
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  or about the sort of Middletown USA, it was sort of like the quintessential mid-American town.
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  And so it was very famous and well known because of that, but it's been economically devastated.
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  I was doing some foreclosure cases down there.
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  This is probably 10 years ago and the whole downtown area.
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  I mean, they had like a 10, 12 story office building that was completely empty downtown.
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  And they had a lot of drug abuse, the auto industry used to be big, but you would drive
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  by these giant plants down there around Middletown and they're completely empty.
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  So that has a huge economic impact and there's JD noted in this book, Kill Billiology,
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  which I think everybody should read.
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  It led to a lot of drug abuse opioids and that type of thing and a lot of deaths in the area.
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  Now, it's been a big deal here in Ohio, a lot of people had died because of that.
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  So I think his move towards conservative values has been genuine, but he was also
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  employed out in Silicon Valley in the tech industry.
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  I think he made some money there and I've heard I've seen different websites say that he's
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  been bought and paid for by Peter Teal. I'm not sure that that's entirely accurate,
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  but certainly he has worked with Peter Teal who's a big funder of a lot of high tech,
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  big tech industry, a multi-billionaire, big funder of Republican causes,
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  and a guy that I'm concerned about and I'm concerned about the direction that it goes.
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  So we need to understand that there's this, our friend Patrick Wood points out and I think I agree
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  100% with Patrick Wood's thesis that technology is technocracy, the development of these people
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  who are going to run things because we're just technically, technologically more advanced
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  than everybody else. This has been a long, long, long project that's been going on for 150 years
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  in the United States. It was pushed by Columbia University, then it's a big deal of Rajinsky and
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  through a bunch of organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations, the trilateral commission
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  and that type of thing and Patrick should have been about it extensively. So I think it's an area
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  we need to be concerned about and I think that even a recent Supreme Court case that overturned
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  the Chevron decision which gave deference to the big deep state bureaucratic agencies in D.C.
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  The court now says, well, that's not constitutional the way that it's been done,
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  but the problem with that is we live in an era where do you really think that the deep state
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  is just going to shrink away now? And I think that that's a mistake. So while people are hopeful
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  that the overturning of the Chevron decision will sort of put the brakes on the deep state,
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  you have to bring those cases in court, they're not going to back off. And in fact,
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  Elizabeth Warren just introduced legislation in the last day or two to say that to essentially
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  legislatively overturn the Supreme Court decision that just came down. So and then you also
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  have this Supreme Court decision on the first amendment which was a horrible decision,
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  six three decision, Roberts, Kavanaugh and Iain McCornie Barrett,
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  joined in with the three liberal lunatics on the court and said, well, yeah, you know,
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  I we don't know if there's a problem because the people who brought these cases about
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  the government working with the big tech companies, the sensor people, that's they don't have
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  standing to file the lawsuit. So you need to watch as these cases come to attack the deep state
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  organizations that the courts may draw on that Supreme Court case on the free speech
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  censorship issue and say, well, the people who are challenging the deep state and agencies
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  on this don't have standing to pursue the lawsuits. So listen, my view is that the
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  technology thing will march will continue in any hope to overturn it, slow it down is a 20-year
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  project at least. And so it's one of those things where, you know, I'm old enough now that's
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  thinking of something 20 years in the future. I don't really worry about it. Yeah. So John,
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  really quick and I mean really quick, you're you're you're take on the Republican Party platform,
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  any any move away maybe from from solid pro-life stances and other, you know, maybe social issues
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  in quotes or and other things in the platform that some people seem to be upset about.
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  I'm upset about it. I think it's a legitimate concern. Look, we had rovers this way to overturn
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  about two years ago. I said at the time that that was going to mean that the battle on abortion
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  was going to be fought state by state. That's not that that's gone well in some states,
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  not so well in others. And then people are pushing that day after pill that's become unrestricted.
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  And while there was a rollback in the number of abortions last year, at least this year it
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  appears to be more abortions in the United States than any other year ever. And Panned Parenthood
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  has made more money than they've ever done in history and they're getting more federal tax
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  dollars over 700 million in our tax dollars and they make over a billion in revenue. They're make
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  it's interesting since Roe v. Wade was overturned. I think a lot of good people, Christians,
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  conservatives have led up a little bit saying, yeah, finally, but they're fighting even harder.
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  Your quick thoughts? Yeah. And so what happened was in here in Ohio, we had a pro abortion
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  amendment that was put forth last year. I live in a red county Delaware County, one of the fastest
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  growing counties, but it's changing because of the growth with the tech industry around here.
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  Homes going up all over the place. But when that came up in this red county, the pro abortion
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  side of it won by a two to one margin. Wow. And so I think what happened is that politicians
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  are politicians. They stick their finger up and they say, okay, this is the way this is going
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  trumpeted. He's a politician. Everybody needs to, he's not a pastor. He's a politician.
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  And the Republicans, and I even heard some conservative evangelical politician
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  types that have big organizations come out and say we need to back off on the abortion.
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  Oh my goodness. Keri Lake came out and said that.
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  And I'm pretty sure I heard somebody else that I don't want to say his name because
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  I'm a thousand percent positive, but I can't find the clip.
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  So, but, but they did come out, Keri Lake did an Arizona come out and said we need to back off
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  on this abortion thing. And so we've, the Republicans have lost a number of states,
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  like even Kansas, which is a fairly conservative state, except for some of the liberal areas around
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  Kansas City and Lawrence, in Topeka, where the universities are, they've come out in sort of
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  pro-abortion ways. By the way, the, I think one of the biggest
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  decisions, court decisions recently was a, a lady, I'm trying to remember her name.
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  Beverly Betty will, Betty Williams was convicted under the face act.
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  The freedom of access to clinic entrances act enacted by the federal government.
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  It's been selectively pushed against people who protest abortion.
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  Yeah. We, there have been many people put in prison and one was just sentenced,
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  oh, the other day, yesterday or the day, or Friday, to 41 months in federal prison.
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  So this is a conservative pro-life.
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  I was preaching a black lady from Tennessee who went to a clinic in New York City and protested
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  and she was convicted in New York City and sentenced to 41 months in prison and two years of
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  supervised release after she is released from prison. So, John, they're not just going after
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  former president Donald Trump with law fair. They're making example, obviously since January 6
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  and the, the buildup by the media of the great threatening insurrection to take over America,
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  which didn't happen the way they described it in, in Washington DC. They're not just going
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  after Trump in the courts. They're going after Jack Phillips. They're going after individuals pro
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  lifers. They're going after Christians and we don't want to, we're not prophets you and I,
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  but we can say they may be coming for us and friends. If you are outspoken on some of these
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  issues, they may be censoring you are coming after you, but this is a, a woman that, uh, go ahead.
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  They will be coming after you. And, and by the way, I, I, by no means on the geopolitical thing,
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  I, I don't know that Donald Trump is a lock. Okay. I mean, we, we've watched the cycle for the last
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  couple of weeks. Understand that what happened to Beverly Beatty Williams in New York City over
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  the past few days and her being sentenced to federal prison is egregious, but this is, this is
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  the dream of Kamala Harris. Yes. Yes. This is the job. This is the Department of Justice. This
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  is Mary Garland. The guy they wanted to put on the Supreme Court. It's his department that's doing
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  this. Yep. And so I'm, I'm just saying is we're, we're in a very, very dark place in America and
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  things are so upended. I, I don't know the Kamala Harris is a lock for the Democratic nomination.
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  I think there's a lot of people in the Democratic Party. I mean, I've seen some tweets or coming
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  out from people associated with Obama that it may be one of these things where Obama never really
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  counted the cost. And I'm going to ask the question. Two things on the Biden thing. If he can't run
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  the office of president, how can he or how if he can't run for the office of president,
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  how do we think that he can run the office of president over the next four or five, five months?
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  Yes. Excellent question. We're going to talk about that when we come back with John Haller on
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  amazing God. That shouldn't surprise us. Anyway, John Haller, you're concerned about what you call a
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  very dark America. We're in a very dark place. Before we got on the show, you sent me a text message
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  saying they did not get Trump into prison yet. They did not assassinate him. Then Biden quit. I will
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  add then Benjamin Netanyahu comes to the States to speak to Congress. Now, supposedly Kamala Harris
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  has all Biden's delegates. Help us make sense out of where we're at. Like you said, a lot's
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  happening and it's such a short amount of time. It's interesting. You know, we talk about if you
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  mess with Israel, things happen to you. And so Biden spent the better part of the last four years
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  trying to get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu. And now who's gone? That's funny. And who's still standing.
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  Ironic, yeah. I mean, well, yeah. And look, I know I have a lot of friends in Israel. They do not
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  care for Benjamin Netanyahu. They think he's playing politics with this. And I think the issue with
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  Israel just real quickly is everybody want to talk the talks about the day after. You know,
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  what are we going to do? And Netanyahu actually had a plan. And actually on MSNBC this morning,
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  on Morning Joe, they were saying, yeah, Biden or Netanyahu did put forth a plan for the day after
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  Gaza. We win. And we're going to run everything for a long time until we train the people
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  that live there. There's an article in the Jerusalem post I've meant to send you and I forgot.
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  There was a American, I think, is American comedian. He went to Ramallah in the Palestinian area
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  of Samaria. I hate to use the term, the West Bank. He interviewed people there. You can find
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  the video on X. Every thing he said he was shocked. Every single person he talked to
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  was a Jew hater. They hated Israel. They they said they'd love to mosque. They did not think they
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  should release the hostages. And he said it was everyone. And eventually a large group of
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  Palestinian men came to him and said, if you don't delete everything on there, we're going to kill you.
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  This is in Ramallah. This is five miles from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Wow.
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  On the on the main street in Ramallah during the day, final days of Yasser Erafat Israel kept
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  reducing the size of his compound. And they've rebuilt it. It's a lot of I mean if you want to see
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  nice homes, go just Google for images of Palestinian leadership homes. And you'll see
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  I've been in the West Bank, David, up around the ancient Tel Aviv. It's a neighborhood. It
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  looks like Beverly Hills. And the interesting thing is there's nobody there during the day
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  because I don't think the people live there. They take the money. They build homes and then they
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  come to America. It the whole thing is sick on an epic scale. The international court of
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  justice came out last week and said that the Israeli occupation is illegal of the areas of
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  Judea and biblical Judea and Samaria. There's a very good English lawyer from London named Natasha
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  Halstorf with the UK lawyers for Israel. You should look her up on YouTube. She will tear apart the
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  ICJ ruling. But you need to understand that where we are relative to Israel is 100 democratic
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  senators senators and congressmen, including Nancy Pelosi, boycotted Benjamin Netanyahu's speech
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  before Congress yesterday. But understand that the ICJ ruling is merely a regurgitation
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  of resolution 2334, which was introduced at the UN Security Council December 23, 2016. Note the
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  date that's after the election where Trump was elected defeated Hillary Clinton. But before he
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  took office, the Obama administration, which continued under Biden, we know that that's why we
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  call it the Biden administration. Resolution 2334 is exactly what the international court of
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  justice just ruled. It says Israel is real building settlements in the West Bank is a legal
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  occupation illegal under international law and it's a total load of I'm not allowed to use the
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  words that I would say. It's nonsense. I think everybody knows what I want to say and what would
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  accurately describe that stuff. And so my view on this thing in Israel, very difficult situation
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  that Israel is in with the evacuation of the communities in the north 80,000 or more people
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  have left their homes in 45 villages and towns in the north. Hulsed a villa town like Kiryat Shemot
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  at 25,000 people, totally empty. It's being decimated day by day by Hezbollah. Israel's on the
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  verge of a major war in Lebanon that will be very different economically and difficult for Israel
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  in terms of casualties. There will be thousands and thousands of rockets, five to 10,000 rockets
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  every day launched from Lebanon towards Syria towards Israel. It will be very difficult to defend
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  against this. In Haifa, the hospitals of his interview recently with one of the directors
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  hospital, they are ramping up 40% increase in emergency room admissions because of what could
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  happen. And my view is I'm going to give you I don't know that I have an answer. I don't think that
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  you're pitchulating to them and entering into a ceasefire. Is it any way going to achieve peace?
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  It's only going to appease them. My view is for every village in town and home that needs to
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  be evacuated because of what Hezbollah is doing or what the Hamas has been doing across the border
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  into Israel. Israel should go to the West Bank to Judea and Samaria and start building settlements
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  at twice the size of what they have to evacuate. Just take the land for crying out loud and stop
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  this nonsense. I'm sorry. I know that that sounds cruel but I do not know what the other
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  answer is. Yeah. Survey show 85% of the people in the Israeli areas where Arabs live in Israel
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  and in the West Bank support Hamas. Enough is enough. 85% support Hamas. Wow. Wow. That's
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  a dangerous, dangerous place then meaning for Israel. Wow. Israel's fit. And everybody needs to
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  stop calling it a war with Gaza. War with Hezbollah and Lebanon. A war with Hezbollah factions in Syria.
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  Call it what it is. Let's say it's a it's the global war by Iran against everybody else.
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  Hmm. It's Iran is behind every single one of these things. The Houthis. They've shut down shipping
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  in the Red Sea. But not just to Israel to the whole Suez Canal which is a major source of revenue
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  for the Egyptian government causing major problems in Egypt. All this I think, you know, I talk
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  about Bible prophecy. All this plays very much into Bible prophecy and I'm seeing a lot of
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  even like Orthodox rabbis. They're saying, yeah, this is this is the end times. Mishia is coming soon.
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  That's what they're saying. Wow. So John, we've we've got four minutes left and when you're talking
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  about this and you mentioned Iran, I can't help but be disgusted at the billions of dollars that
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  our government since the Obama Biden administration has given to Iran and we don't have a say
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  and and isn't. Of course, we don't have a media that's actually doing their job and following
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  the money. So what do you think about that? Look, I interviewed a guy. He's a secular guy named
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  Francisco Gil White. He can follow him on substack and he makes the point which I cannot refute
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  that this Iranian thing and the pro-Palestinian thing and anti-Jewish thing. It's actually goes
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  back into the at least the Reagan administration. The Carter administration before that has been
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  very pro-Iranian billions and billions and billions of dollars and when everybody gets when
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  anybody gets caught, let's say it was during the Bush 41 administration and said, well, what do you
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  do with this with Iran? We shouldn't be pro-Iranian. They would say, oh, we made a mistake and Gil White,
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  Dr. Gil White makes a very good point. He says, how is it that all of your mistakes benefit
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  I read? Yeah. And I will say that whatever you've seen about Obama or the third term of Obama,
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  of Obama known as the Obama Biden administration and what will be the, oh, Kamala
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  administration, if it happens, everything is defaulted to be pro-Iran and I will say that of all
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  the people that I've seen running for public office in my lifetime, the most pro-Iranian radical
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  person is Kamala Harris. She exceeds Obama. Wow. And so I'm just saying is you vote for her,
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  you're voting for Hamas and you're voting for Christians to be put in jail because they protest
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  of abortion clinics. That's what you're voting for. But do you think the average citizen knows that,
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  I mean, those of us who are informed and are paying attention and are following this and have
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  done the due diligence and the research, we get it. We understand, we try to warn people in our
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  sphere of influence, but the media doesn't talk about it. And how does the average person
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  know the truth? How do they get it? They don't. It's just a minute and a half, John. Go ahead.
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  Well, I mean, look, you can follow people like my updates on the Fellowship Bible Chapel and
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  Real FBC on Rumble, people like Tom Hughes. You can read things like Harbinger's Daily and
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  that type of thing, which will give you a lot of that information. You have to do the legwork,
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  you know, and you just can't accept the media narratives. You've really got to dig. I mean,
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  listen, there's a huge issue. Financial times just did this two weeks ago, they put out a thing,
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  deep fakes are going to be a big issue in the elections that are two billion people in the
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  world are having this year for their national leadership. They use an example of a deep fake
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  of a guy. They said, this is this is a purple. It sounds like the guy, but it's not. Who was the
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  example that they used? The financial times of the United of London two weeks ago, Joe Biden.
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  Wow. This is a deep fake of Joe Biden on July 7th. It was published. I've got the video. Wow.
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  And I'm like, they use an audio. But listen, what has been the question all the last week?
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  Where's Biden? So we're in a very, very dark place and people need to be very aware.
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  Don't believe the media. We've got a page of resources on the website. Check that out. John
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  Haller Fellowship Bible Chapel. We just thank you again for your time. We'll do this again.
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  Lord willing soon. God bless you brother. Thank you. Thank you.
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  Friends, thanks for sharing the podcast. God bless you and keep speaking the truth about things that matter.