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Furness Show 12-17: Gregg Bell is in with Stewart Mandel, Farhan Laiji and Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports Tests Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three kg RFM Sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Wednesday Live Greig Bell with the News
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  Speaker 2: Tribune at the Virginia Mason Athletics and Inferness is away
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  Speaker 2: again today. He'll be back tomorrow, so don't worry and
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to suffer too many much more.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we're all having fun.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks. I spent more time with you than my wife
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  Speaker 2: here the last four or five days. The headlines about
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  Speaker 2: to you by Frost Brewed cors Light Choose Chill to
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  Speaker 2: Crack in Man. They played really well last night, took
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  Speaker 2: a couple of leads, but then couldn't have overcome the
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  Speaker 2: hl's best team in the third period. Last night they
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  Speaker 2: lost five to three after an empty net goal at
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  Speaker 2: the end. Five to three at home. That's nine losses
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  Speaker 2: in ten games. Chandler Stevens and Jordan Everley Shane Wright
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  Speaker 2: combined to score the goals for the Crack At Philip Grubauer,
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  Speaker 2: he looks like he gave up four goals in thirty
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  Speaker 2: seven attempt because he did, but he was on his
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  Speaker 2: head for much of that game. I mean, Camarados could
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  Speaker 2: have scored.
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  Speaker 3: Ten thirty seven shots on goal.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot, and they could have scored four or
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  Speaker 2: five more times than they did. He made some brilliant
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  Speaker 2: say especially in the second period to keep him up
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  Speaker 2: in front. They were up three two going in the
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  Speaker 2: third and they lost five to three. They're back on
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  Speaker 2: the ice, home ice tomorrow against the Calgary Flames. Five
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  Speaker 2: thirty pre game showed him right with the one of
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  Speaker 2: the league captain Mike Benton, six o'clock puck drop right
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  Speaker 2: here on their home for the crack at ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three KGFM Calgary Seattle tomorrow at CPA. And yet
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner Adam Silver, Yeah, I know you've heard this before,
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  Speaker 2: but he said yesterday at the NBA Cup in Las
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  Speaker 2: Vegas that a decision regarding domestic expansion. He specified that
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  Speaker 2: meaning not Oklahoo, mut Vancouver, not Mexico City, right, but
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  Speaker 2: domestic expansion will be coming within the year, meaning in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Now that's a long year between January
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  Speaker 2: and this time next year. But the timeline of course
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  Speaker 2: been elusive to Seattle and Las Vegas, whom the Commissioner
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  Speaker 2: Adam Silver did point out by name yesterday, those two cities.
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  Speaker 2: But it sounds like in twenty twenty six we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: learn if the league will expand from thirty to thirty
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  Speaker 2: two teams. And he's already earmarked Seattle in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 2: as the ones they look at closely. Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 2: wake me up when it's over right here. Kirby Moore
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  Speaker 2: was introduced yesterday as Washington State men's football coach. I
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  Speaker 2: guess there's not a women's team yet over there. Talks
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  Speaker 2: of loyalty.
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  Speaker 4: It was noted by Greg Woods, who had a pretty
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  Speaker 4: interesting article out today regarding that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the loyalty, of course is a big issue with
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  Speaker 2: coaches coming and going a year after year. Jimmy Rodgers
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  Speaker 2: just leaving after one year to go to Iowa State.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why Kirby moories here. The Prosser native played
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  Speaker 2: at Boise State, but he said he as a kid
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  Speaker 2: went to games at WSU and Martin Stadium. He emphasized
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  Speaker 2: he'll bring quote exciting brand of football on the pulous
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  Speaker 2: you believe it, Jess, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely think that he has the chops and everything.
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  Speaker 4: I think the big question after WSU has been scored
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  Speaker 4: so many times by coaches that I mean the only
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  Speaker 4: one to get fired in the time that I have
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  Speaker 4: been there is Nick Rolovich. So I mean we're talking
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  Speaker 4: a lot of I think that he's going to have
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  Speaker 4: to prove it by staying not the brand of football
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  Speaker 4: he brings, but I do believe he has the chops
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  Speaker 4: to do so.
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  Speaker 2: And Rolovich was a stated, we just take a COVID test.
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  Speaker 2: Ohire University had football coach Brian Smith has been relieved
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  Speaker 2: to his duties. Not great timing was the signing dages
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  Speaker 2: tended for Ohio. Termination follows an administrative view of allegations
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  Speaker 2: in Athenes, Ohio. The Smith violated the terms of his
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  Speaker 2: employment a grant by engaging in serious professional misconduct and
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  Speaker 2: participating in activities that reflect unfavorably in the university. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that sounds like a lawyer just pulled that right from
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  Speaker 2: his contract.
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  Speaker 3: Gay sounds about It.
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  Speaker 2: Means as in firing for cause you have to pay him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's what happens, right like you look for
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  Speaker 4: four cause. And I mean those are serious allegations too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they were digging for that,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think that is the same you could
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  Speaker 4: say about Sharon Moore.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly there was some trouble happening with him.
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  Speaker 2: So once again leaders of men who can't even leave
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  Speaker 2: their own selves pukakua strong words regarding NFO referees. The
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  Speaker 2: Rams wide receiver stated on a live stream a live
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  Speaker 2: stream after the game in the locker roo, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: not mistaken, the Rams teammates can appreciate that, yes, he said,
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  Speaker 2: quote the rafts are the worst. Some of the rules
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  Speaker 2: are The guys want to be the guys would be lawyers.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be on TV too. You don't think
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  Speaker 2: he's texting his friends in the group chat like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: you guys saw me on Sunday Night football. That wasn't
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  Speaker 2: PI but I called it. Yeah, his teammates are, Rick,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing, dude? Come out of face. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It just it reminds me of some people who have
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  Speaker 4: done those, you know, Instagram lives and stuff from the
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  Speaker 4: locker room, caught stuff that they shouldn't And yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: he had a purpose, he had an attention for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty somethings will be twenty somethings in their social media.
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  Speaker 3: I got well, there's that.
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  Speaker 2: Now for today's show. The Seahawks actually are on the
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  Speaker 2: practice field right now. They just started there outside today
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  Speaker 2: now that the rain has stopped. In Seattle game tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 2: five point fifteen. This is the first time Jesssemine that
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  Speaker 2: two and a first time in NFL history they've had
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  Speaker 2: a Thursday night game with two teams of eleven or
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  Speaker 2: more wins.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, huh.
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  Speaker 2: Usually Thursday nights.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's they're pre scheduled so far ahead of time.
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  Speaker 4: It's you know, with predictions of who's going to be
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  Speaker 4: the best matchup.
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  Speaker 3: But this one they nailed.
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  Speaker 2: They did also this week, of course, the college football
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  Speaker 2: player We've went talk with Stuart Mandel at one twenty.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to talk about the Michigan situation. Jesseman just
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  Speaker 2: alluded to Sharon Moore. We'll get the latest on what
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  Speaker 2: he knows from Michigan, he's talked to folks there, and
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  Speaker 2: what he thinks of how far this might search process
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  Speaker 2: might draw out. Of course, there's some interest to the
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  Speaker 2: University of Washington's coach Jed Fish could be a candidateman
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  Speaker 2: that the longer this goes, the more candidate he may be.
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  Speaker 2: With that job opening up last week, with all the
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  Speaker 2: Sharon More arrests and jailing and craziness going on in
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  Speaker 2: an arbor. We'll talk to Stuart Mindel of the Athletic
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  Speaker 2: at one far hundred Logy great friend of mine. He's
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  Speaker 2: a Vancouver based TSN Canada reporter. He covers the NFL
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  Speaker 2: and major college football primarily for them. He also covers
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  Speaker 2: the CFL. But he's going to be traveling man this week.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be with me tomorrow for the Rams
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  Speaker 2: and Seahawks at the press box Atluomenfield, and then he's
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  Speaker 2: going on a red eye Jessamond through Chicago. We can
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  Speaker 2: get into Norman, Oklahoma Friday night. They're gonna he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: cover Alabama at Oklahoma in the first game of the
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  Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. He'll join us at one forty five
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  Speaker 2: at two o'clock to coach Mike Congran. It's always great
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him. I covered him here in the
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  Speaker 2: early two thousands. He remembers that he kind of lefts
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  Speaker 2: that covered his first in Seahawks, first Super Bowl team
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  Speaker 2: with Seattle at two thousand and five. I'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: the coach Mike Homran right after two o'clock two thirty.
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  Speaker 2: two forty five, Dave Softy Maller and Dick Fane will
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  Speaker 2: He's man. He probably hard to contained himself right now
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  Speaker 2: about tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when can he exactly no normal conditions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, no, Yeah, he's NonStop. He's been in the
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  Speaker 4: office all day. We had some meetings here and so
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  Speaker 4: all of our staff was in and here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wrote for the newstributing dot com this morning.
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  Speaker 2: What's at stake exactly for the Seahawks tomorrow night. If
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  Speaker 2: they win, they have the inside track to the number
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  Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC, not just winning the NFC
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  Speaker 2: West for the first time since twenty twenty, but being
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  Speaker 2: the top seed in the conference. And that couldn't with
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  Speaker 2: it not only home for the advantage, but you're the
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  Speaker 2: only team in the conference that doesn't play in wild
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  Speaker 2: card weekend. That's one fewer chance of getting beat. One
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  Speaker 2: more week to rest and get healthier before the playoffs start.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big deal the NFL when they changed the
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  Speaker 2: playoff format to make seven teams in each conference go
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  Speaker 2: in a few years ago, they gave only one team
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  Speaker 2: a bye. Used to be multiple teams, now it's one.
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  Speaker 2: So the NFC's top seed is a big carrot out
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  Speaker 2: there that in tomorrow Night's game, the loser of tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: night game is headed for the five seed. It would
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  Speaker 2: take a collapse as in two losses in the last
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  Speaker 2: well probably no two losses in the case of the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: If the Seahawks lose, the Rams would have to lose
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  Speaker 2: to Arizona and Atlanta to end the season for the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks have any chance to win a division, and that
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  Speaker 2: ain't happening. The Rams could roll out their Sea team
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  Speaker 2: and beat the Falcons and the Cardinals. So the loser
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  Speaker 2: of tomorrow Night's destined for the five seed. What's that mean? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the first round on the road. But he looks like
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  Speaker 2: the NFC South champion, which is to be determined between
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  Speaker 2: Carolina and Tampa Bay. Carolina and Tampa Bay are both
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  Speaker 2: seven and seven.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, that's not exactly a huge worry
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  Speaker 4: at this point, except that.
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  Speaker 2: The Buccaneers came in here and just ripped the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald defense for thirty eight points. With Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 2: a couple months good point seven and seven Carolina seven
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  Speaker 2: and seven Tampa Bay. They play each other twice in
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  Speaker 2: the last three weeks and determine who wins the NFC
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  Speaker 2: North who the Seahawks will play with Carolina in between
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  Speaker 2: those two Buccaneers and Panthers games, And then if you
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  Speaker 2: win that game, you go probably to the NFC North champion,
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  Speaker 2: either Chicago in Green Bay. And I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: from experience just getting there myself that's no picnic. And
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have had zero success on the playoffs on
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  Speaker 2: the road in either one of those cities. I've covered
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  Speaker 2: multiple Seahawks playoff losses in Chicago and in Green Bay.
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  Speaker 2: And if they somehow get through that, which history says
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  Speaker 2: they've never done before, they would play the NFC title game,
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  Speaker 2: most likely on the road, unless somehow the six or
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  Speaker 2: seventh seed has gotten through the bracket as well. In
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks could somehow host that NFC title game, but My
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  Speaker 2: point is that's no way to get to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Just man. No, Yeah, as good as they've been.
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  Speaker 3: On the road, we'd prefer the easy route, you know, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's night and day tomorrow it's one
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  Speaker 2: or five. Yeah for tomorrow. Yeah, that's what makes this
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  Speaker 2: so big. And you heard it yesterday when Julian Love
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  Speaker 2: talked on the show about that. He says, yeah, you'll
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  Speaker 2: hear people saying about, well, it's December football and all
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  Speaker 2: games are big. He said, Nah, none of that, he says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in my mindset is I'm embracing the enormous this game.
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  Speaker 2: It is huge, and we know that the one seed
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  Speaker 2: is at stake and what comes with that, and how
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  Speaker 2: we'd love to play two playoff games at home before
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  Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl. It bears repeating. I say
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  Speaker 2: it a lot, I've written a lot. The only three
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  Speaker 2: times the Seahawks have been to the Super Bowl in
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  Speaker 2: their fifty years of history is when they had the
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  Speaker 2: top seed in the NFC two thousand and five, and
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  Speaker 2: the back to back thirteen and fourteen teams all had
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  Speaker 2: the number one seed. All the NFC had to come
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  Speaker 2: out here sideways, rain and the noise and all of that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I know the home field advantage hasn't been what it
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  Speaker 2: has been in the last few years, but all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, the Seahawks are six and two at home
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  Speaker 2: this year, and as great as Mike McDonald, his team
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  Speaker 2: has been on the road the last two seasons thirteen
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  Speaker 2: and two. Only George Seaford in NFL history has debuted
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  Speaker 2: as a coach with more road wins in its first
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  Speaker 2: two seasons coaching. They don't want to do that three
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  Speaker 2: road trip back to back to back. Not to mention
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  Speaker 2: Jesse in their history. Not all teams do this. Their
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  Speaker 2: history is they fly back home after each one of
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  Speaker 2: those games, right San Francisco. In the past when they've
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  Speaker 2: had back to back road playoff games has stayed back east.
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  Speaker 2: The Seahawks have always come back. And you don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's much, but I can tell you the players talk
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  Speaker 2: a lot about it's not so much getting to the
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  Speaker 2: game because they go two days early. It's the getting
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  Speaker 2: back the East Coast to West coast, the drag that
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  Speaker 2: puts on your body and your sleep habits, and then
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  Speaker 2: you got to turn around and play again in four
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  Speaker 2: or five or six days. That's the concern of doing
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  Speaker 2: that three times in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's tough.
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  Speaker 4: As someone who has traveled to the East Coast several
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  Speaker 4: several times in the past six months, I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you it does wear on you. You kind of need
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  Speaker 4: like you have like the travel hangover. And I know
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  Speaker 4: these guys are well taken care of. They're on a
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  Speaker 4: private jet, they're on a charter, I should say, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, but it doesn't change the fact that it
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  Speaker 4: is exhausting to do that travel.
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  Speaker 2: Not to mention they're doing it when they should be
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  Speaker 2: in a training room or or ivy bags hooked up
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  Speaker 2: to them right. Sometimes are on the plane because they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to recover from playing eighty car wrecks in the
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  Speaker 2: game that afternoon. You don't think it's uncomfortable to write,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if you're in first class seating or not,
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  Speaker 2: which the Seahawks plane now is mostly first class seating
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  Speaker 2: their new plane. But it ain't comfortable to fly six
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  Speaker 2: hours after playing a three and a half hour NFL
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  Speaker 2: football game. No, you're sore, stuck, you're injured, you're cramping.
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  Speaker 2: And to do that three times in a row and
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  Speaker 2: get to the super Bowl that way it'd be a
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  Speaker 2: tough ask. It really would be a tough Now, one
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  Speaker 2: of those games could be the NFC title game, could
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  Speaker 2: be on the West Coast, because the winner of the
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  Speaker 2: NFC West looks like it's going to be the number
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  Speaker 2: one seed, be that San Francisco, Los Angeles or Seattles.
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  Speaker 2: But still, yeah, that's not the preferred path. That's what's
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  Speaker 2: at stake tomorrow night. And yeah, I did that Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: to Seattle, to Baltimore to Seattle twice in four days,
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  Speaker 2: and it was it took a minute. Yeah, I'm still
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  Speaker 2: trying to get over that.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you, Oh, miss jmu things.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, right, So that's what the Seahawks and Julian Love
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  Speaker 2: said yesterday. He is fully on board with the injury
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  Speaker 2: issues real quickly before we go to break and get
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mendevi in here. Charles Cross, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna play. He's got a hamstring issue, and this
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  Speaker 2: is the wrong week to come back from a hamstring
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  Speaker 2: right three days rest. Same with Davante Adams, the leading
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  Speaker 2: touchdown wide receiver in the NFL with fourteen right now,
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  Speaker 2: he pulled up lame with a hamstring, grabbed his hamstring
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  Speaker 2: in the Lions game the Rams won last weekend. Both
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  Speaker 2: those players, they're probably gonna be game time decisions. I
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  Speaker 2: would expect them to be listed as questionable with best
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  Speaker 2: when the injury report comes out this afternoon. I'll go
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  Speaker 2: out and practice here and during the break to see
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  Speaker 2: what Charles Cross is doing. But I have a feeling
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  Speaker 2: he's not gonna be on the field and Jessen. That
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  Speaker 2: means that Jones, the guy they brought in, is the
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  Speaker 2: most likely starting left tackle. That's why they signed him
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  Speaker 2: from Baltimore and Houston. The Veterans swing man. He's played
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  Speaker 2: a little bit at right guard last week, Josh Jones
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  Speaker 2: did for a Lucas when he missed a couple snaps
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  Speaker 2: getting injury checked. Lucas is fine, he will start, but
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  Speaker 2: it looks like Josh Jones maybe starting at left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: I'm next from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center and Seahawks Headquarters,
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  Speaker 2: will be joined by Stuart Mandel all things college football
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  Speaker 2: for the Athletic. He's going to be joining us to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Michigan mess, how it might affect Jedfish
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  Speaker 2: in Washington. We'll talk a little bit about Army Navy
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about the college football playoff up next with
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• 15:31
  Speaker 2: holidays to you. What's happened since Seattle and Ian last
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: talked to you, and most of that a lot has
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: been in ann Arbor, Michigan. As what you know, Stuart,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: what's going on with Michigan. Are they going to wait
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: to do their second investigation of the Sharon Moore situation
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: in the athletic department as a whole before they hired
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a new football coach. What do you think is going
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to happen here in the next few weeks.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: For what I understand, they're kind of happening in parallel.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: They're doing the investigation into the broader athletic perman culture,
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: as they said, And what that kind of makes what
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: makes for an awkward situation is I think we all
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: feel like, Yeah, the athletic director Ward Manuel is not
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: going to survive that because there's just been it's just
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: been one thing after another under his watch and a
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: lot of questions about how to sharn more situation was handled.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: So from what I've been told, he is still running
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: the coaching search now they have a search firm. I'm
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: sure the board and others might be involved as well,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: but he is the one leading it. So as they
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: talk to potential coaches, you know, I'm sure the potential
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: coaches are going to be wondering, are you still going
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: to be around to be my boss?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: And then they have an interim president at the University
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: of Michigan as well. I'm assuming that's still a searching
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: to a full time How does that factor in all
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of this with a potentially lame duck or in trouble
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: athletic director without a full time president.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: We kind of saw this situation with LSU. They had
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: an interim president, they had a you know, a governor
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: who was kind of running the coaching search. I thought
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: that would dissuade candidates, but link Kiffen was the who
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: is probably the most thought after coach in this cycle,
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: ended up going there. So Michigan is going to have
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: a lot of appeal regardless it's Michigan.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: They won a national championship.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: Just two years ago, one hundred and ten thousand DC
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: and all the stuff you associate with them. But I'm
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: sure there are candidates who will be scared off by
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: the you know, all the chaos that's going on there
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Stir Meandel, the athletic co host of the Audible podcast
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: with Bruce Felm, and joining us as he does every
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: week at this time on ninety three point three kJ
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: R f M. Do you believe Kaylin de Bor at
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: his word that he's not talking to anybody not interested
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to talk to anybody, or do you think that could
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: potentially change after Friday night if they go to Norman
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and lose in the first round of the playoff.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe that doesn't mean if they do lose,
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: is that you know there's nothing stopping for Michigan from
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: checking in seeing if anything's changed.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: I don't think you know.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Obviously, Alabama fans will be disappointed about this season if
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: they lose this game, and he already had the unenviable
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: task of being measured against Nick Saban. But it's not
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: like Greg Burnie eighty is going to turn around and
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: fire him if they lose this game.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: The idea that he would.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Go to Michigan is or why he would leave Alabama
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: for Michigan. It is basically just, hey, things, things are
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: trending in the wrong diression.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Do you want to get out before before this might
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: become an issue next year.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: A lot of coaches have a lot of confidence in themselves.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: He's got a lot of reason to have confidence in himself.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: So if he feels good about the situation he's got there,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: he should have Tyd Simpsons back next year.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to turn pro. You never know. Yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: maybe he's in it for the long home.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And speaking of quarterbacks, as you understand, it would Bryce
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Underwood stay no matter what the coaches or you're hearing
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: anything about the five star blue chip quarterback Michigan signed
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: this past year.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: I don't think anybody knows there was a It did
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: come out that his so a lot of the players
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: now that do these revenue share contracts. The contracts have
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: buyouts in them, just like with a coach, but his
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: apparently does not. So there's really nothing stopping him from
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: going in the portal. And I'm sure he's probably waiting
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: to see what happens with this coaching serch who do
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: they hire.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: But I don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: We've seen some pretty you know, he was five Stark
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: or he's the number one guy. Uh so was Dylan
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Royola the year before. He's in the portal now dj
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Lagway he's in.
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: The portal now.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: It's just kind of comes with the territory now that
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: these guys don't necessarily stay in one place.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I would think Michigan with the boosters, with the revenue source,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: with the top of the Big ten food chain as
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: money's not going to be an issue here. They could
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: probably I'll pay NFL head coaches if that's the case.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Do you see them going into the pro ranks. Do
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you see any candidates potentially being NFL guys?
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: They could, Now, the only problem with hiring NFL guys
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: right at this point is to wait, if you have
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: to wait out their season. Yeah, the portal officially open
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: standing right second. Really it's already open. It's already you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: guys are already announcing their intent.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: To enter the portal.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: But if that's kind of an unofficial deadline, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: you might not you might not be able to afford
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: to wait. There have been Tavita Pritchard as a new
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Stanford coach. He was the QV coach for the Commanders,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: and the Comanders just like let them leave, right, But
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: he's the QV coach, He's not the head coach or
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: a coordinator.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Stirmandel the Athletic Coast of the Audible podcast joining us
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: on ninety three point three KJF, and we're spending a
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: lot of time talking about this Michigan situation out here
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, obviously because Jed Fish suddenly could be a candidate.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Are hearing anything in that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: Regard, I think he's going to be candid.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: I just first of all, I think the Michigan search
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: is going to run pretty slowly.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to hire somebody eminently, so.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: We want to might not even be at the point
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: yet of hey, we want to go interview Jed Fish,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: but I definitely think he will be in the mix.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: The question there for me is I think he's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: good coach, but has he proven enough to be like, Yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: this is because like you said, like they're probably going
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: to pay the next coach a lot of money. It's
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: a big it's a big move. I think if you
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: do get him, you got a better chance of keeping
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Underwood and some of those young players because he's known
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: as a good offensive coach. I think it's going to
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: just come down to what exactly they're looking for. If
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: it's important to have an established sitting head coach, a
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: lot of them are not available.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Jetfish probably is Stirmandel the athletic.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: In the audible podcast Jurning You Sarre in ninety three
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: point three KJFM, I saw publicly that you've voted for
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Diego Pavia for the Heisman Trophy. Did you explain your vote,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and were you surprised he didn't win or did you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: what did you think of his since regrettable and he
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: apologized for rant against the voters who didn't vote for him.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: I wasn't surprised Mendoza one.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: I was just a little surprised at the margin because
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be more competitive between
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: the two and they're both great, and it was a
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: tough decision.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: I just looked at it as two things.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: You know, Pavia, Vanderbilt football was so bad before he
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: got there for so long, and he's just completely transformed
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: that program, you know, to the point where they could
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: win ten games and seas in a regular season for.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: The first time ever.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: And also he's a duel threat guy, right, so he
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: had a really good passing season, but he also ran
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: for almost nine hundred yards.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: You know, if you're I could, I could absolutely see
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: the other side of it too.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Where with Mendoza, hey, maybe the stats are play is great,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: but he'd beat number one Ohio State, he'd beat top
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: five Oregon. Vanderbilt schedule was a little soft, they didn't
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: have wins.
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Like I wasn't.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: Necessarily all that offended by Pavia's comments.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: Afterward. I think that's his personality. He's brash, he's cocky.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: You know, he called out Tennessee over the offseason and
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: then went and beat them, So you're right, Like, it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: a quite the contrast with Mendoza, who I think is
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: wins the award for nerdiest tis and Winterever, who, as
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: was pointed out on Twitter today, updated his LinkedIn with
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: the fact that he won the Heisman. H you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: so good for him, right, Like, let's celebrate that. But
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking to necessarily totally dunk on Pabia.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Stirred a game that's near and dear to Jesmine in
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: my heart mind, especially in my West Point graduate Army
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Navy Jesseman and I were at the Army Navy game
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: in Baltimore this past weekend, as we have been the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: last four years, and there was a lot of talk
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: while we were in Baltimore that this might be one
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of the, if not the last, standalone Army Navy game
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: because of the inevitable ex college football players. I hear you,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: thank you, sir, that's my first question. I make the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: statement that it's probably the last true college football game
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: if you count discount the Zuomies of Air Force. They
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: also don't get an IL. But there's no nil money
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: on that field among one hundred and five players on
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: each team. Why not if there's just sport, why not
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: trumpet it? Why not? If you do expand the playoff,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: move those games around the army, if keep your army
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: of game at three Eastern on the second Saturday in September,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: why would you not want to showcase that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: I think everything about that event is perfect. Don't mess
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: with it in any way. Now, it's not always perking.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: If I'm wrong, Jessman would definitely know this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: It hasn't always been on the second Saturday in December, right,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: that's recent there necessarily led to that, but you would
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: want it to be standalone. And I just think right now,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: like there, we still don't know is this going to
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: become a sixteen team playoff?
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: Is it not?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: The Big Tens pushing for twenty four right now? The
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: betting favorite is it stays at twelve next year. Doesn't
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: mean it'll stay that way for long. And so first
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: they have to figure that out, right, the bigger picture
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: of what is the playoffs going to be? And then
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: they figure out the calendar, and they already have trouble
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: fitting these first round games in.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: You know, the NFL goes head to head with two
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: of them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: Now you're telling me if it's a sixteen tame class,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: there's going to be uh, you know, the extra you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: two more extra games on top of that. So I
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: would hope though everybody would honor Army Navy. One thing
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: and has going for it, obviously, is the NFL. It's
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: before the NFL starts playing you know, full on Saturday schedules.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: So whether that means it, uh, there are there are
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: playoff games that day, but none of them are opposite that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Like, at the very least they can do that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I don't it would be totally unnecessary to schedule a
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: playoff game opposite that game.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Thanks well, said sir audible podcast joining us, and it'll
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: be came plumbing hot on a ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Where do you see? First of all, let's just start
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: with you said the calendar. I'm sure Ian has brought
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: this up with you, but can we at least agree
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and can college football president college university presidents agree to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: just move the transfer portal out of the season and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: get it into at least after the college Football Playoff
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: is done. Will that at least happen?
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Well, they kind of did, right, they moved it to
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: this year. It's going to be not going to open
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: un till January. Second, The problem is it doesn't It
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: almost doesn't matter. Like it's all going on already. You've
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: seen so so many big name.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: Quarterbacks enter the portal.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Are announced they're going to enter the portal, right, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: that basically means they're in the portal.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: Agents are shopping guys as we speak.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Schools are making deals with them, Like you could move
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the thing to June and that would still be going on.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: So it kind of effectively didn't really change much. Frankly,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I think it's worse because what you what you can't
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: do in December is take visits to these schools. You
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: can't do that till you're officially in the portal. So
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: I think that means there's only guy a lot more
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: guys that pick their schools without having ever step foot.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: On the campus. The problem, the challenge with all.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: This stuff is it's still it's still college football. It's
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: still tied to the academic calendar. Right now, this January
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: second to fifteen of pushing it as close as possible
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: to the start of the second semester. So if you
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: moved to even you moved it even a few weeks later,
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: if you moved it to February, like, at that point,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: it's too late for them to enroll at their new
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: school for the second semester. So I know everybody complains
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: about the calendar. I complain about the calendar too. It's
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: just very the options are very limited.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Well, let me posit something to you, Stewart. I used
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to work at the University of Washington's athletic department in
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: a former life, and I've had people there. I've had current,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: current and former athletic directors that big time programs tell
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: me they think the future of college football in particular
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: is that they are going to move those entities off
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of campus and they will lease the colors, the uniforms,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the names, the branding, and the stadiums as private companies.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: And the students basically are not students. They're paid players
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: with labor contracts as off campus third party entities, so
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that they can be outside of Title nine restrictions. They
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: could be outside of student athlete restrictions and great eligibility.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Is that too far fetched that that could be the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: future for at least the haves anyway, the big ten
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: in the secs of the world.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: You know, it's certainly been thrown about, and in fact,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: I've seen you know, people in college sports, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: not many, but advocate for something like that. The thing is,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: I know it's easy to stereotype everybody as dumb jocks.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: The majority of these guys want to be in college,
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: want to get their degree, like, they are not just
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: going there for football. So to say like we're just
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: going to take that away from you, I don't think
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: is the best idea. I also wonder if, like I
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: covered the Ed O'Bannon anti trust here at Kyle a
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: decade ago, where the NCAA was trying to argue with
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: the straight face that the players got paid, everybody would
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: stop watching and clearly that's not the case. But there
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: might be a point of no return of Okay, they're
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: not even college students anymore. I don't like that. That
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: makes me uncomfortable, right, So there are many steps along
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: the way before it could get to something that extreme.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: I do think they need collective bargaining, whether that means
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: their employees or not. There has to be. There has
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: to be at some point in acknowledgment that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Whose day, Alabama, Georgia are.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Playing a completely different sport than the Sun Belt. It's
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: it's really you know, noble and tradition that they all
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: be in the same governance division. It's just not realistic.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: But the scenario you described, I hope I hope not.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: I hope we don't get to that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I hope you're right too. I've had people tell me
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that maybe let's hold the education experience in a dance
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and if they don't make the NFL, you go have
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a scholarship paid for. If you do make the NFL,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you pay back into the fund so the next guy
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: can get an education. Right, it's broken. I think we
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: all agree on that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: It's the most popular broken product. Everybody says like it's broken,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: it's dying, and then like, I get the press release,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: the eighteen million people watch the Big Ten championship game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: You know it's thriving in spite of itself.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. Stirman out of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the Athletic the co hosts the Addible podcast. He joins
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: us every week at this time on the beacon plumbing
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: high and Stuart. Happy holidays to you. Thanks for taking
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the time. We'll see what the color. Oh, I should,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I should? I should get you real quick on what
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: do you think happens this weekend in the playoffs?
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Is?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Does do the underdogs have a chance? Does Bama went
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: on the road at Oklahoma? Jm you did they even
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: get close to Oregon? What do you think happens?
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: I like, I do like Bama to get the win
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: because the first time they played Oklahoma one, but it
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: was statistically very lopsite. It tour Alabama, A and M
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Miami is a really fascinating one.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I'll pick AM just because they're at home.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: I do not think those group of five teams. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: mean I would give to an a chance just because
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: maybe Ole Miss, you know handling the coaching change is
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: a mess. I have a feeling that's not the case. Also,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: it's hard to get back to the fact they played
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: already and All Miss crush them.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel, The Athletic The Audible Podcast, thanks again for
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: join us. Happy holidays to you, sir, and we'll talk
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to you next week.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Happy holidays to you, Thank you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel of the Athletic Up Next lots more from
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center at Seahawks Headquarters the night
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: before the biggest game yet of the NFL regular season
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  Speaker 8: This is a lot of Greg Bell for me. I
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  Speaker 8: just heard you on Sicarison Price. It was this morning,
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  Speaker 8: you know, and then and then you talked about the
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  Speaker 8: guy that the line when the Seahawks signed on you,
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  Speaker 8: and then you had to mention from Oregon, like, why
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  Speaker 8: do you have to do that?
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 8: That's that's not good I did. That doesn't add to
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  Speaker 8: his resume or his credibility in anybody's eyes in Seattle
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  Speaker 8: or or certainly not my Like, what is that.
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  Speaker 2: You texted me? Last time? Was already in bed, but
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you keep the midnight oil. Yeah, and you texted her Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry when I didn't hear the phone, but you
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: were asking me what do I know about this crack
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  Speaker 2: and postgame. We didn't bring it up yet with a
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  Speaker 2: crack and flagship station, but journalistically I have to bring
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  Speaker 2: up that that is absolutely bush league that an NHL
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  Speaker 2: team or any team would only let the team employee
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  Speaker 2: ask the coach question. He talks for sixty three seconds
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  Speaker 2: and then he's out after a ninth loss, in ten games,
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  Speaker 2: and after a game that the Kraken played very well
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  Speaker 2: last night against the best team in the league and
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  Speaker 2: in the blue using at the end. But I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to ask you far, haven't you been around the NHL
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  Speaker 2: or any pro sports college sports franchise for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a little stuff like that?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a little different. You know, I didn't expect it.
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  Speaker 8: So when I saw yourself and Mike Burrell and others,
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  Speaker 8: you know, post on it, I'm like, what. And generally
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  Speaker 8: I just always saw the Sea or the Cracking do
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  Speaker 8: a pretty good job and their VP of broadcast and
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  Speaker 8: Chris Brumwoll is a good friend of mine and professional
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  Speaker 8: as they come, used to be up here working for
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  Speaker 8: the Canucks, and and you know, like, boy, they could
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  Speaker 8: sure use a Chris Brumwell because when I look at
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  Speaker 8: I think of what's happening here in Vancouver, and it's
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  Speaker 8: not a really good media situation right between organization and team,
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  Speaker 8: and really hasn't been for the last few years. So
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  Speaker 8: I was surprised to see it in Seattle, and so
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  Speaker 8: I kind of did a little bit of digging and
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  Speaker 8: that's not on brand for them, but you know, and
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  Speaker 8: what I learned is that it wasn't intense, like it
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  Speaker 8: wasn't planned right. I don't believe that they went into
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  Speaker 8: that post game availability with the intention of only letting
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  Speaker 8: their in house team reporters asked the questions and then
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  Speaker 8: shut it off. I think there was, you know, a
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  Speaker 8: bit of frustration because they've lost nine to their last
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  Speaker 8: ten and you know, you lose to a really good
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  Speaker 8: Colorado team last night. But you know, and I think
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  Speaker 8: there's I think there's a feeling certain times there there
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  Speaker 8: might be kind of you know, newer reporters and sometimes
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  Speaker 8: you know, you ask questions that are you know, a
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  Speaker 8: little strange and awkward, and I think there was they
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  Speaker 8: were wanting to make sure that that didn't happen at
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  Speaker 8: that time because you know, maybe Lane was on edge
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  Speaker 8: a little bit. But again, I as soon as it
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  Speaker 8: happened and the feedback started coming back, I think there
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  Speaker 8: was a lot of regret within the organization. I don't
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  Speaker 8: think they were going to double down. I think through
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  Speaker 8: you know, throughout some of the day, they have reached
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  Speaker 8: out to people who were who were there and have
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  Speaker 8: made an attempt to make sure they understood, look, we
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  Speaker 8: we should not have done that. There were some mea
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  Speaker 8: culpas going around, and that's not what we're going to
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  Speaker 8: continue to do. And that's that's not standard practice with
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  Speaker 8: the Kraken. So you know, given what we've seen from them,
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  Speaker 8: I just I'm not gonna throw them under the bus.
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  Speaker 8: I just think generally they do the things, they do
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  Speaker 8: things the right way, and I think they'll go back
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  Speaker 8: to that really quickly. And I think it was just
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  Speaker 8: handled poorly, and I think they acknowledge that and are
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  Speaker 8: going to fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on top of losing nine out of ten games.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy for fans to jump on top of that,
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  Speaker 2: on top of that, but that's interesting context.
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  Speaker 8: Well, if you're in the crack and you're getting buried
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  Speaker 8: right like, there's a big football game tomorrow night, I'm
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: not sure if you've heard about it. Seeing as how
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: you spent all your time watching Army Navy this weekend,
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if you covered the Seahawks anymore. So anyway, no,
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  Speaker 8: I no you did. I'm just kidding for fans that
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  Speaker 8: don't know, right, I was in the Seahawks the media
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  Speaker 8: meal room, and you know, literally like fifteen minutes before
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  Speaker 8: the game. Greg Bell just is sprinting in down the
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  Speaker 8: hallway trying to get there, make sure that he's got
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  Speaker 8: enough time for his meal before he sits down on
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  Speaker 8: the seat and gets ready for the game. So you
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  Speaker 8: you worked hard to get through the military training paid off.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, well thank you. Yeah, lets people forget all
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  Speaker 2: I do is I think I did. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: six pm the night.
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  Speaker 8: Before the cracking can easily get buried in the market,
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  Speaker 8: right and Seattle's a great sports market, but we all
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  Speaker 8: know what's number one, and that's the football team. When
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  Speaker 8: you get to this time of year and you're the
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  Speaker 8: cracking and you're not getting enough success right now, right
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  Speaker 8: Like the team's not great, they don't have a superstar player.
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  Speaker 8: There's there's not a lot of compelling around the kracking
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  Speaker 8: right now, so it's easy to get buried and there's
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  Speaker 8: something like that happens, and now you're getting a little
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  Speaker 8: bit of attention for that, you know, I think that
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  Speaker 8: is disappointing for them, So you don't want to have
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  Speaker 8: to deal with that as well. So I wouldn't expect
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  Speaker 8: to see it happen again.
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  Speaker 2: As you said, let's talk about something even more compelling
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night the first time a Thursday night football game
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  Speaker 2: in NFL history has had two eleven plus win teams
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  Speaker 2: going at it against each other for the NFC West
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  Speaker 2: title and the number one seed. And I laid out earlier,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, far on the winner's likely or at
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  Speaker 2: least on track to get to the NFC West title
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  Speaker 2: and the number one seed. But the loser is going
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to go down to five and they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: three road games. I have to play to get to
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl. I know Mike McDonald's team's thirteen and
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  Speaker 2: two seasons on the road, but that's not a recipe
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  Speaker 2: to get to the super Bowl. You saw the Rams
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  Speaker 2: last week or the last time the Seahawks played the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: You saw that game. You're gonna be there tomorrow night.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: What are you expecting? Do you expect a different Sam Donald?
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  Speaker 2: Do you expect Mike McDonald to still seem to have
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  Speaker 2: Sean mcvay's number defense against his offense?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it looked defensively, McDonald's been very good
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  Speaker 8: against McVeigh, you know, and when you think about how
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  Speaker 8: mcveigh's offenses were able to own Pete Carroll, there certainly
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  Speaker 8: is a start contrast there and that doesn't mean they've
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  Speaker 8: always won, because we look at that game four weeks ago,
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  Speaker 8: and it was the defense did everything humanly possible to
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  Speaker 8: win that game. I mean, I think there was a
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  Speaker 8: time in that game where actually turned it off because
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: I had to get to a kid's activity and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: thought I was going to come back to a blow out,
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: and I went what And they were right there despite
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  Speaker 8: four innerceptions and four interceptions with some bad field position
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  Speaker 8: attached to it, and yet the defense just kept punching back.
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  Speaker 8: And next thing, you know, it's a two point game
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  Speaker 8: and Chattle's got a chance to win with a really
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  Speaker 8: long field goal at the end, and you know, and
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  Speaker 8: they couldn't do it. But you know, and I know
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  Speaker 8: that Donald has had a propensity to turn the ball over,
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  Speaker 8: and nowhere was it more egregious than in that game.
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  Speaker 8: And when you go back to just big picture, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I think the Seahawks were a better team with Sam
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  Speaker 8: Donald than they were with Gino Smith. But both of
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  Speaker 8: them had turnover issues. And in the case of Donald,
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  Speaker 8: in certain games, it's the volume, whereas in the case
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  Speaker 8: of Geno, it was always at critical times and locations
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  Speaker 8: in the game. Right Like you know, red zone turnovers
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  Speaker 8: and things of that nature. So I think if Donald
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  Speaker 8: can prevent the turnover, which he's done in the last
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  Speaker 8: two games. You know when you knew in those last
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  Speaker 8: last three games, really given who they were playing on
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  Speaker 8: the other side of quarterback, if you just don't turn
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  Speaker 8: it over, you're going to win the football game. And
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: it went right down to the wire this time, but
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  Speaker 8: ultimately that was the winning formula. So if Donald doesn't
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  Speaker 8: turn the ball over, I think they've got a chance
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  Speaker 8: in this game because they absolutely would have won the
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  Speaker 8: last roam without it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the Seahawks have a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl cut up with defense. If their quarterback doesn't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: turn over the ball, they can get to the super
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Bowl because they can win tomorrow's game and get that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: number one seed and get the first round by I
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: have only two wins to the Super Bowl. Is I
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: think it's Darnold's turnovers is the key to the entire thing. Now,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get on a plane tomorrow night after the game,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: go red Eye and get the Norman Oklahoma, which is
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: no easy Seattle do Norman. Oklahoma's not exactly a lot
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to watch. Alabama and Oklahoma Oklahoma got Bama in the
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  Speaker 2: first game, and now in the College Football Playoff it's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: back in Norman. They beat him in tuscal Loosa the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: first time. Alabama dominantd most of that game until the
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  Speaker 2: end and lost. Calen de boor people talking about Michigan,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I talked to the Stewart Mandel this morning.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: He doesn't think that Alabama's gonna run Caylen de Bor
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  Speaker 2: out of town even if they lose tomorrow night or
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Friday night. What do you expecting an Alabama Oregon and who?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Who do you expect? Indiana's number one? But I don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: even think they're the favorite, are they?
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  Speaker 8: No, they're not at Ohio State and my trip got canceled,
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: and then the next I'm doing the next three rounds
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: of college football Playoff. I was supposed to go to Norman,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: but we just couldn't make it work terms of how
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  Speaker 8: much I would have by the time I got there,
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: I would have been missing a bunch of shows, So
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: just it didn't work. But I'm looking I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 8: to watching that game and then attending a bunch of
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  Speaker 8: other games going forward. I'll be at the Cotton Bowl
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  Speaker 8: in two weeks for the Ohio State winner. I think
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: they take on the winner Texas playing them in Miami,
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: and yeah, and you know, when I look at it,
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: I still think Ohio State's the best team in the country.
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: And you know, when you look at that Indiana game,
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  Speaker 8: Ohio State had so many opportunities in the red zone.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: You know, they they're inside the five yard line on
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: two occasions, and they come away with one field goal,
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: and they you know, they there was more there for
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: them to have. I thought they were I thought they
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: were a better team. But Indiana, certainly, for real, I
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: don't want to dismiss that. And Mendoza is a worthy
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: Heisman candidate. This Alabama team, they're frustrating to watch, just
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: the level of inconsistency. You know, you go to about
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: week eight of the season and Ty Simpson, their quarterback,
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: was a legitimate Heisman Trophy front runner, and then things
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: and kind of you know, in certain games have kind
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: of gone downhill. And you know, the game they played
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: at home against Oklahoma, you know, that was one of
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: John Mitier's best games. And then John Mittier, who Washington
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: State fans are certainly fully familiar with, right He's had
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: some games where you're thinking, what the heck is happening?
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: And I know he's dealt with injury as well, so
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: like I do think it's a somewhat wide open field
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: outside of James Madison at Tulane. But you know, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: do think the top two teams, in my mind are
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: clearly the top two teams. They're not unbeatable like I
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: thought last year. Ohio State's team was unbeatable, and Notre
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: Dame in the championship was kind of fictionally close right,
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: like they were behind a lot, made a bit of
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: a comeback, but never really we're going to close the door.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Ohio State was so much better than everybody else. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: don't think that's the case this year, but I do
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: think there's a clear one too. And what Kurt Signetti
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: has done in Indiana in two years is just insane.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: For him to have had that last year and then
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: to back it up again this year and even be better,
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: It's wild to me that you could turn it around
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: even in the current era of college football. What he's
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: done is really impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh quality, Suor, I will see you tomorrow night. Thank
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• 43:23
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• 43:26
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• 43:30
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  Speaker 9: Sir, Hey, Greg, good to talk to you. How's it going.
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  Speaker 9: How was your trip?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? It was good. It was fantastic, Mike. It's like
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  Speaker 2: it's that's so coolm yesterday. Yeah, thank you, it was
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: really fun, really fun. Happy holidays to you and your
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: wife and your great family. Thank you for being on.
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: Thank you you know this game of morn, I Mike,
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: the weather, the rain's supposed to stop, but they're talking
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: about wins during the game of twenty miles an hour
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: gusting to forty.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: As a coach, and as a coach and a guy
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: who was so intricate in the quarterback play, how does
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: that affect your game planning, your play calling or does
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it do you just roll with what your plan and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: deal with it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: No, No, it has a great effect on it if
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: the wind is gusty, if it's that bad. Yeah, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: remember a game we had to play against the Bears
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: on Halloween night and the wind was so bad that
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: our first punter kicked at fifteen yards, good punt, straight
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: up in the air, but it blew back. One of
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: the two of the punts that Chicago kicked landed on
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: their side of the line of scrimmage. And so, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: I remember our tight end coming off. A ball was
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: thrown to him and he dropped it and he goes,
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: came off and he goes, Mike, you know, I don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: have great hands anyway, but the wind, don't throw to me, man,
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: don't throw to me anymore. So that's a long answer
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: to your question. But they have to take that into consideration,
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: no question about it.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: So how do you do that? Do you call shorter passes?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Do you run it more? Do you tell your punter
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to line drive, low kick? Everything? What changes in your coaching.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: Goes all all three of those things. You know, far
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: in that game I was talking about he has a
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: very strong arm. But you know, we had to throw
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: the ball short. And then you have to depend on
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: your running game. And you know the way the Hawks
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: have been running, you know, you just hope that that
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: they cranks it up a little bit, you know, if
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: the weather's that way, if.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: When you see the run. You mentioned the struggles, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: last week it was two point three yards per carried,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the fewest of the season. They're fifth to last in
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the NFL and yards per carry, yet their number one
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and running plays forty eight percent of the time. What
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: do you see the issue being, Mike.
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: Well, I think it starts upfront. Honestly, they've had some
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: injuries up front, and my my thinking is that I
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: played against Mike Shanahan's teams. I played Dance Kobex teams
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: coached against them, and that style of offensive play. Oftentimes,
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: those linemen aren't the big, crunching, huge guys. They're the
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: movement guys, and they're the people that can come off
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: together and then go to the second level and all that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: And I see, I don't see our line that way.
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: I see our line as bigger and kind of sluggers.
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: And so if they're trying to implement that style of play,
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: which they are, it's really important to them, then I
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: think that's that's been a little bit of an issue
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: up front. That and the injury thing. Charbonnay and Walker,
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: you know, they come under some criticism, but you know
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: better than anybody great the running back you got to
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: have blocking up front. I don't care who you are.
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: You got to have blocking up front.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Walker has three or four guys waiting on as soon
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: as he gets the ball the last few weeks, No,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, As an aside, Mike, would you bring
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: him back on a new contract running back position, being
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: what it is, how injury prone it is, would you
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: invest money on Kenneth Walker and give him a deal
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: beyond this year?
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: You know what.
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: I'm a Kenneth Walker fan me too, and so I would.
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: But you know, hopefully we get a little something going
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: here at the end of the year. But how they're
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: doing it is another thing. I don't know how you
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: feel about it, Greg, but how they've kind of, you know,
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: switched them on and off and on them off. Sometimes.
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: The running back in a game, I know, it's different.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: Now every team has two running backs and they got
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: a little chip in their shoulders saying you can only
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: take this many steps in the game and all that
• 50:43
  Speaker 9: kind of stuff. But in years past, the running back,
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: you had a good running back. He carried about twenty
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: five times a game, right, And with that you kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: of get a feel. You get a feel of how
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: the game's going. And oftentimes the statistic secol part of
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: it will improve as the game goes along. And I
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: think part of it is that, you know, Walker gets
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: ten carries, Charbonaye gets ten, and maybe they never quite
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: get into that groove where Okay, I know I've seen it,
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: I know what they're going to do. This is what
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: I'm going to do. I don't know that for a fact,
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: but I think there's there's a possibility of that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I hear you and coach, I mean, Walker gets you
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: between the twenties and then get inside of twenty and
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: they go to Charbonne and right, if you're from Kenneth
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Walker's perspective, you're like, man, I've got three games left
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: in my contract. I'm auditioning for a job in the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: league next year.
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and that, and quite honestly to think to say
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: that he doesn't think about that at all. Yeah, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: think you're being I think you're a kidding yourself. You know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: he don't take me out. I mean he's handling it
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: pretty well, but I can score the touchdown. Leave me
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: in the game.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Right, No, he's absolutely, I can tell you first tend
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: he's he is thinking about he has noticed that. The
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: coach Mike Comer joining us on the night before, the
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: day before the biggest game of the Seahawks season against
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: the Rams tomorrow night. Coach the Rams, as you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Sehn McVay, always the innovator on offense, he's now going
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: to thirteen personnel. Nobody in the league has run thirteen
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: more than the Rams. They're at twenty five percent, while
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of the league's averaging five percent of one
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: tight one running back and three tight ends. I would
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: posit to you, I'm gonna ask you how you feel.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Do the Seahawks are they uniquely equipped with nick Emon
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Worry and how they deploy Devin Witherspoon and Julian Love's versatility.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Are they uniquely equipped to counter thirteen the most NFL
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: teams or how do you see Mike McDonald combating the
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: thirteen personnel tomorrow nite?
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: Well, I think they are. I think im you're worry.
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: He's a he's a kind of a tweener, you know.
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: He's he's a big defensive back, but he's they can
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: use him as a linebacker, as a movement guy. He's
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: got great speed and he's a tough guy, you know,
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: And they have people like that on their defense. And
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: what strikes me, Greg, is that Mike McDonald, first of all,
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: is an outstanding defensive coach. They do a lot of
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: different things, and they're able to do a lot of
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: different things because of the four guys up front, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: so they Yeah, it's a unique thing, and you have
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: to have an answer for the three tight end. Look,
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: you have to have an answer otherwise. And the Rams
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: are a good running team, right, So that'll be that
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: That'll be a point of emphasis this week, no question
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: about it. But you won't see too many different things
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: on defense, particularly and the other fact, it's a short week.
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: You know, you only get a couple of practice days
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: and then you're playing the game.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five. Mike Omran, if you had your
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: packer teams or your Seahawk teams, how would you offensively
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: attack Mike McDonald's schemes and the hybrid nature of Nick
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: even worry and the four down linemen have been so effective?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: What would you do to try to find holes? What
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: would Mike Combran's recipe beat against Seattle's defense?
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: Well, my recipe would be what. I don't think it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: that much difference from most teams. One. If you get
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: too fancy in too many plays in your in your
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: arsenal the way that Mike moose his defense is around,
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: I think you make a huge mistake. So you kind
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: of I would I would limit, actually limit a little
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: bit of what's on my play sheet, but make sure
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: the guys know how to handle it and how to
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: execute it properly, and then just go after it with
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: a lot of I'm a big play action guy and
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: I'm a big screen guy. That was a big part
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: of our offense, and we got to be good at it,
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: and so I would hope That's that's how I'd use it,
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: so keep the defense a little off balance so they
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: just can't tee you off and get after you that way.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Speaking of scripts and plays and charting, Mike, the Seahawks
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: starting on offense has just been abysmal lately. They zero
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: points into the second quarter against Minnesota six' sixth tie
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: into the third quarter at four When. Atlanta then last
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: week we saw the problems they had both in the red,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: zone not even scoring a touchdown four drives with inside
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the thirty five yard line and not getting a touchdown
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: on any one of. Them the. Starters mike McDonald calls them.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: OPENERS i believe you were from The bill wall school
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: of maybe fifteen or so scripted offensive plays to start a.
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: Game, yes, right, yeah, Yep gary Kuby.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Gary excuse. Me Clint kubyac said yesterday he does about
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: ten to. Twenty he didn't want it for competitive, reasons
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: limit down to how many. Exactly but when you look
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: at how The seahawks, start when you look At clint
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: kubyak scripted, plays what do you? Notice what might you
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: tweak to jumpstart an offense against one of the better
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: defenses in The league tomorrow.
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: Night, well and that's that's WHAT i talked about. Earlier.
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: Greg you, know if you, know all of a, sudden
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: The rams are going to be charting how The seahawks open,
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: games kind of a pattern of play, calling and everyone does.
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: That so you're playing a really good defensive, Team you're
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: playing a team that matches up well with. You so
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: you look at that and you do you do something.
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: Different if all of a, SUDDEN i got seventy five,
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: Percent i'm running on first down or whatever the number, Is,
• 56:09
  Speaker 9: Okay i'm going to pass the ball on first. Down
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: i'm going to run it on second and. Long i'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: going to just change it up so they can't their
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: call against what they think will work. Against my run
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: is going to be. Different my call is going to be,
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: different and see if that. Works you, know the first
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: FIFTEEN i did fifteen plays After Coach wallash kind of
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: did that and taught, me AND i did fifteen and
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: it usually worked pretty. Well you, know you kind of
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: this is going To i'm going to gain four on this.
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: PLAY i didn't. EXAGGERATE i was trying to be, honest
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: And i'm going to wind up in second and six,
• 56:43
  Speaker 9: blah blah blah. Blah but then the fifteen that just
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: is first and second down. Calls then you go to
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: your third down and, short third and long, whatever you
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: go to another part of your play. Sheet so the
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: first fifteen is really should really last for about thirty
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: and so you, know it's a. PUZZLE i agree with,
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: you it's a puzzle how they start the. GAME i
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: would like to see a little bit, more something a
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: little different to start the, game not just run run, fast,
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: uh really get play action going that that'd be the.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Thing, now you have such a big array of playbook
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: that you've been working on Since, april and OTAs how
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Much mike can you change in that script and what
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you've been asking the players to do versus play what
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: you ask them to do tomorrow night on just the
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: three days between, games or do You maybe.
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: That's a really, no that's a really good. Point and
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: you have to be really careful about that because it's
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: a short week and they're used to learning and practicing
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: and installing at a certain pace during the, week and
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: now all of a, sudden you don't have that. Pace
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: and not only, that the, guys some of the guys
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: that you can't practice they got to heal, up and so,
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: no you have to be careful with. That of course
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: you're going to have some new. Things of course you're
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: gonna ask some new, things but you're not gonna be
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: able to practice them very. Much so it's important for
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: the for the team and for the offensive. Guys, okay
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: that really knuckle down and. Study but then you, know
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: you can't change too.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: MUCH i can't be the first smow in this. Station
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: it's going to pin you down and ask you what
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: you think is gonna happen to? Night but what are
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: your predict what's gonna happen, Tonight, mike tomorrow.
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: NIGHT i THINK i think it's gonna be a field goal.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: GAME i really. DO i think you have really two
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: really good teams and a really good. Division and you,
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: KNOW i was an old forty nine er, coach so
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: the forty nine ers are involved in this thing down
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: the road as. Well oh, yeah you, know but they you,
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: got you got excellent. Coaching you have both teams play
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: with a lot of. Intensity the, weather the weather is
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: going to be a. Factor so but then both quarterbacks
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: are playing, well it's gonna be a heck of a.
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: Game this is a this is a playoff game with
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: three games left in the. Season.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Exactly, well great to talk to you, Again. Mike i'm
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: miscovering your way back in the day in your First. Seattle, yeah,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: yeah you know.
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: What i'm glad you had a great. Time and AND
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: i THINK i told you my granddad was coming On West,
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: point SO i DID i have a LITTLE i have
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: a little bias in that game. Myself.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: YEAH i appreciate your lean toward The army. Team think
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you might all the best Of kathy and your. Family great.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Holidays i'm Sure i'll see you. Soon Thanks.
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: Mike all, right same, You.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Bud thank, you. Sir Mike homeran the coach The Super bowl,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: winner joining us tonight before the big. Game he, says
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: it's a fine. Line you can't do too much new
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: with only three days between, games and the coaches out
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: here talking about, That mike, McDonald, Gary, Gary you calling
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Him Clint kubiak and even adding dirty yesterday talking about
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: we want the players to play fast tomorrow, night so
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: therefore we're not going to overload him with too much.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: New Mike congran alluding to that there's only so much
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: you can do. Schematically that's that's. Challenge i'm they made
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: not the dumb down, it but they aren't going to
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: add a ton. More But Coach holmgren's, point they probably
• 1:00:01
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• 1:00:04
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  Speaker 4: missed it with all this, talk but Coach holmgerm was
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: saying about scripted. Plays do you think The seahawks might
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: have been conservative in their play calling Last sunday in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: an effort to discuss is their game plan For?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Thursday?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, wow, yes, yes and yes they will never admit. That.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Right they want to treat every foe the, same AND
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: i don't want to sound like they're slighting The, colts
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: but they were holding a lot. Back AND i can
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Tell i've been talking To Chucking book this week about.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: THIS i know that in, Particular mike McDonald On defense
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: has stuff that he's been working on for a long
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: time that he hasn't shown yet because he doesn't Want
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: sean McVay too have seen it on film sneaky.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Sneaky oh.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah and that includes how they use even, Worry that
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: includes how much they Blitz Devin. Witherspoon they are gonna
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: be things That sean McVay hasn't. Seen now that's not
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: breaking news because there's gonna be Things mike McDonald hasn't
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: seen From sean McVay. Either Come but to his, point,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: yeah he wasn't going to show a ton four days
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: before he's going to play The. Rams AND i think
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: there was a good bit of vanilla in that plan
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: compared to what tomorrow AND i will be.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Interesting All, right here we. Go rod wants to know
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: what your Favorite christmas movie.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: IS i do love The Christmas Christmas. Story that's pretty
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: pretty damnerous. Film you know what is an underrated. One
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: it's from THE Bbc Last. Christmas it's based on a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: woman who is in love with the music Of George.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Michael so the entire movie is A George michael. Snter
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  Speaker 2: it's almost a.
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  Speaker 3: Musical oh that's.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Awesome, yes and my wife happens to love That George michael.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Music but if you haven't seen It Last, christmas it's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: a really it becomes a sad, story but it becomes a,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: rewarding heartwarming one at the. End but, yeah that's my
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: dark horse under the Radar christmas, Movie Last. Christmas it's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: been made In ENGLAND. Bbc some of the stars names
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: are escaping me right. Now but the, lead one of the,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: lead the co lead From Crazy Rich asians is in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: that movie as. Well, okay and so's the lead the,
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  Speaker 2: woman the mom Of Crazy rich ass is also.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Inst oh she's. GREAT i love that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Actress, yes, Yes Elie thompson is in that movie as.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Well Last. CHRISTMAS i would highly highly recommend that.
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  Speaker 4: All right from the eight oh one wait sorry from
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  Speaker 4: the two o six, More, Greg, Please army is tough
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  Speaker 4: for me and my wife as we are Both. Marines,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: however my, Dad vietnam, veteran was an officer in The
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: navy AND i love him more than the dating squids
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  Speaker 4: so bleep it go.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Army, yeah there you, go convert it a marine saying go.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: ARMY i love. It it's my time to repeat what
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  Speaker 2: the what marines really. Are there are navy guys who
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: couldn't get into the.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Army oh, ah yeah they.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Are it's.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Funny it took me way too long in life to actually.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Realize and the word is marine water, like it took
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: me way too long to.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: KNOW i thought they were part of the army for
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: a really long.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Time, well they tried to do all army. Things They're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: navy guys who wish they were on.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Land they do a lot on, land that is. True and,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: YEAH i had friends that Were, marines and that's HOW
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: i learned.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: That before you write into the tex line or Email Rich, morton,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: NO i have most respect for The, marines have a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: ton of marine. Friends i've worked with them and joint.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: EXERCISE i get. IT i just always teach some of.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: It, yes well that's what you guys do to each.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Other.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah that's how the whole weekend.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Was, yes, yeah, exactly.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Yes and THEN i loved when you, know we'd spoken
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: to you, know the superintendent for The, Army sergeant gilland he.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Talked about but he's a three.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Star the three star general Of Gillen's.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant General steve Gill, yes yeh, bad my.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Bad i'm still learning.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Here but what he talked about is, that, yeah you,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: know everybody wants to go knock each other's teeth out
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: on that field for sixty, minutes except the all link
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: arms again like right, before right.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: After everybody's on the same.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Team my, favorite my son's favorite moment of The Army
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: navy weekend In baltimore was When Lieutenant General gillen came
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: over to me and, Said greg and his five colonel
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: was trying to take him to his next radio, spot
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: And General gillen, said, no, no, NO i want to talk To.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Greg i'm gonna sit down and talk About so he came.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Over behind the. Scenes you don't know this, listening but
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: he came. Over General gillen just came over and sat,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: down And jessamine AND i had to Change jessmon had
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: to change her. Plan we weren't going to lead the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: hour with.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Him but as the time he had, yeah excuse, me,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: sir the.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Colonel the colonel was freaking, out and he's just.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: BECAUSE i think he blew off another interview to sit
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: down With, thus, yeah let's, see uh we have this
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: for coming from the three. Six so love the interview
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: With Annie Agar and then this person, says, goes well
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: both of us, People, yeah, NO I i love, Her
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: AND i think that people who don't know her and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: just follow her On instagram or TikTok should also know
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: that she was in sports media. Beforehand she puts a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: ton of work into creating the content that she, Does
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: AND i mean she watches every single game and then
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: goes when every game is in the, book she has
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: all her, notes and then she goes and studies for eight,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: hours like you know.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: What's trending in social? Media who had the funniest? Quote
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: this and? That SO i just really love meeting.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: HER i give her credit for. That you're, right because
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you can just pop off the top of your head
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and do those. VIDEOS i think probably some people most people,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: do but she.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Doesn't, yes all, Right, GREG i think you have a
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: coach you need to speak.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: TO i. Do, yes how you're gonna go talk To mike.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: McDonald i'm gonna find out About Charles. Cross i'll let
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: you know On. Twitter Exit Gbill seattle and at The
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: News tribune here. Shortly but in the, Meantime Dave Softy
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: maler is coming Joining jessamine McIntyre talking about his show
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: from three to. Seven i'll say goodbye and check. Out
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: great to talk to you guys all. AGAIN i hope
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: get a chance again. Soon ian will be back. Tomorrow
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Dave Softy maler will be With jessaman next on ninety
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: three point three kJ R.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: Fm welcome.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Back thank you To Greg bell for filling in For
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Ian fornest. Today jessman McIntyre here with you with a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: jovial it's so, good so, good good at?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: Me, well how DO i get The gregg The Greg
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 11: belt deal and just do like eighty five percent of
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: the show and then just walk the hell out of
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 11: here for the final?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Segment how do we get that?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Deal?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: Man?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Huh you know? What he's double duty ing? Today, okay no.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 11: Double duty shmubble. Duty what we do for a living
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 11: is not. Duty there's no duty ing. Here we haven't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 11: had a real. JOB i haven't had one in thirty two,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 11: years For god's. Sake SO i Know greg's you got
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: to take off and go see What mike McDonald's all
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: about and really checking. IN i guess right On Charles
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 11: cross and his status for tomorrow. Night the last time
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 11: an injury update came, out, Right, jess we Had Charles
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 11: cross projected as a D np after the evaluations that
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 11: took place at THE vMac. Yesterday SO i don't, Know
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 11: i'm not a real smart, guy but that'd be a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: pretty big. Loss AND i have your left tackle tomorrow
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 11: night against The.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Rams, Huh, YEAH i would think so that that is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: a pretty big, factor especially considering the main criticism for
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: the stalling offense in the last game against The colts
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: was that it started up. Front so you, know getting
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: a left tackle, back AND i, mean is he what
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: percentage healthy is he going to be if they get
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: him in?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: There, yeah well we're going to find.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Out.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 11: YEAH i, MEAN i would think that they would have
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 11: to go pretty far down the list before the yank
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 11: him and not have him played tomorrow. NIGHT i, mean
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 11: he would have to, be you, know not able to.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 11: WALK i would assume they're not going this. One that's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 11: the biggest game The hawks have played and probably eleven,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 11: years going back to twenty, thirteen at least in the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: regular season. OBVIOUSLY i, mean that's the last time they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 11: were eleven and, three For god's.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Sakes BUT i don't.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 11: Know i'm looking forward to tomorrow AND i hope The
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: hawks have all their bullets in the chamber for tomorrow.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Night, well, yeah it's the biggest.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: One and one thing That Mike holmgren Told greg earlier
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: today was that he thought that that coach MacDonald purposely
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: landed his game plan right in the last, game so
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: he did not want to Show sean mcvagh, anything and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: he did admit they will never admit.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: That they will absolutely never admit.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: That, however does think he was extremely cautious in his Conservative,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah AND i.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 11: Would think that part of that play calling against The
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 11: colts was what was on the other side of the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: ball With Philip. RIVERS i, MEAN i don't think they
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 11: felt like they really had to score fifty points to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 11: win that game On, Sunday, Man SO i, mean it's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: easy to do, That jess, right to kind of go
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 11: vanilla when you got vanilla on the opposite. Side but
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 11: it'll take a lot more than, that you. Know dick
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: asked you obviously On monday how Much kubiak has been
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 11: sitting on the entire year that he hasn't shown. Yet you,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 11: know there's probably a ton that he didn't show against The.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 11: Colts i'm certain of, that like you just talked, About
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 11: BUT i don't know how many surprises there are between
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 11: these two teams for Tomorrow night's, game to be honest with.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: You So i'm looking forward to seeing what kind of
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 11: Impact Rashid shaheed has in this, game, because let's face,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 11: it all of a, sudden The seahawks may have the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 11: deeper and the better wide receiving corps With DeVante adams
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 11: maybe not playing tomorrow night And Poukin nakua kind of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 11: being the only big guy they have at that. Position
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 11: there was a big conversation about that Before game. One
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 11: who's got the better wide receiver? Corps and all of
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 11: a SUDDEN i might be In seattle with The adams.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: Injury, yeah, Absolutely and, also did do you See pook
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: yes and?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Off?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes a live.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 11: Stream well here's the thing about, that every conspiracy theorist
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 11: out there who has been banging the table for, years
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 11: if these guys are just making calls so they can
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 11: get ON tv and blah blah, blah and they're fixing.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 11: Games all he did was give him a bunch of
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 11: gas for their fires with those. Comments AND i Heard
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 11: Mark james talking about it today Because Mark james reminded
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 11: us on his show that he's been telling you that for.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: Years OH i, KNEW i.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: KNEW i knew that these guys are making calls to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 11: get ON. Tv but it's not always the head ref
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 11: that's throwing the. Flag, no it's a side, judge a back,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 11: judge alive, Judge empire or. Whatever so you're telling Me
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 11: mark And. Puka you're telling me that the head, Referee
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 11: Sean hocyley, whoever Because mark mentioned his name, today the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 11: head referee is going to the back judge and, saying,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 11: hey would you throw a flag SO i can get ON. Tv,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: yeah you're telling me that's what's going On. BIRTHDAY i
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 11: want to, say, YEAH i don't buy. THAT i don't
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 11: buy a lot of, nonsense BUT i don't buy that.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: ONE i would say in, baseball you could make the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: biggest argument for that just because of how much they
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: make a show of. Themselves, yes umpires THAT i could see,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: you but it's almost it's you're gonna be ON tv.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: Regardless in that, situation it's just making the big, call
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: the exclamation point and the fist bump on a, strikeout those.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: ONES i JUST i always got the impression that they
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: wanted to be.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 11: THIS i JUST i just think baseball is totally different
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 11: because of what you talked, about, Right there's a lot
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 11: more dramatics. Involved, YEAH i, mean can you imagine if
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 11: football adopted the baseball attitude towards making a call and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 11: a referee took the mic and, said, ah here's what we,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 11: got holding over the first down that? WAY i, mean
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 11: how freaking hilarious would that Be IF nfl officials started
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 11: calling game like, baseball like calling games like baseball.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Umpires, WELL i always really appreciated the giving him the business.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Call, yes that was one of my.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: Favors, yes that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: One i'm, like, okay but it's never going to become the.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 11: Norm, Absolutely SO i don't. Know, Well i'm fired up for.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 11: TOMORROW i know you are as. Well. We by the,
• 1:14:30
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• 1:14:31
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• 1:14:42
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• 1:14:43
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• 1:15:05
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• 1:15:25
  Speaker 11: you saw What Adam silver said. Yesterday i'm making a
• 1:15:28
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:35
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• 1:15:37
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