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Big time. Let's begin with the hot topics.
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OK, hot topics for people new here, Hot topics are topics that
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are hot pretty much people that I keep saying we keep getting
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questions on these guys or everyone's wondering sometimes
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it's what's wrong with this guy, why is he so bad?
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Or sometimes it's this guy is so good.
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Is it real? This episode I think I picked
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only bad ones. But you know, it's a lot of
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times that's the ones that are the most talked about, right?
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So let's dive right in. Firstly, we've got Nico Hischer,
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he was one of our bylaws I think 2 weeks ago and he still is kind
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of puttering around, especially in non face off win leagues.
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People are like what do we do with this guy?
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We drafted him. He's, you know, line 2 power
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play one now line one with Jack Hughes out.
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So that's interesting. And New Jersey is a super high
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octane offence. He's been good, great in the
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past. What's going on?
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I still think Nikita is a bi lo. I mean his shooting percentage
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was is really down right now. That's going to bump up.
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But also like guys like this, it's like Britton point, you're
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still playing with Kucherov and yet you're not putting up points
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on the board. I'm not worried about he sure,
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I've seen him be a tremendous player in the past.
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The situation right now is just really bad and people like don't
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value him at all right now. People trying to get rid of him
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like it's like he's a waiver wire level player.
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And if that's the case, like I'm eating that up, like give me
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some Nico Hesher maybe. But nom nom, nom, nom nom.
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I don't know why in my mind I was just waiting for that to
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happen. I could tell you were waiting
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for it, that's why I had to give.
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It to you. I'd love to say I feel the same
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before that happened. I do not feel whatever that was.
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What the hell is even that? Yeah, literally the perfect time
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to use it. Daddy chill.
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But but yeah, no, I'm I'm still I'm not worried about he sure.
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I think especially now he's gonna have to be more talismanic
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for this team now that the love Jack Hughes is out.
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Yeah, it's been a while since we dropped the talismanic and yeah,
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that's a perfect way to the next one too.
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But yeah, yeah, I'm not worried about you.
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Sure, I know the situation right now is gloomy, but that happens
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sometimes, especially with these centres that are have have to
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have more defensive responsibilities on the ice.
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I think it's going to be fine. I think now is a perfect time to
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continue to buy low. Yeah, Jakey, anything to add on
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that one? I don't, I don't know if I, I
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don't, I don't, I don't know what to do.
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He's still. Inside.
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I mean, I agree he's a good buy low.
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His minutes are fantastic. That's definitely part of it in.
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A league Are you eating themselves?
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No. No, no.
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Are you eating him up? I'm not doing I just I don't
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wanna keep talking about this, but goodbye low.
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Good team and he's gonna turn it around.
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While not to the degree of last year.
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What's the word like on the worry scale?
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One to 1010 being very worried? One being not worried at all?
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Where are you at? 6 I would say in a non faceoff
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wins league, whereas I going to face off wins league.
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Like he's still really like elite there, but it's it's just
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like in all likelihood is gonna turn it around.
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That being said, without Hughes, I expect the whole team to be
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worse and he was already really bad.
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So. But I feel like the Hughes
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injury could actually be good for him because if you look at
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even strength now, he gets to play with Brat and he's playing
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with Mercer on that first line. And I think Brat is like he goes
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Hughes Brat and then he shirt and like The thing is that when
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he was in better both healthy, they get to be pals and you
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know, he's just the Squidward. I'm looking out the window.
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But now that now that he uses out that he gets with Brad, I
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think is huge for him. So I think like as soon as the
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first game that like with Hughes out, I could see he sure really
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popping off. That would be very interesting
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if that happens and it's not, it's a non 0 probability so.
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Josh, where are you on the worry meter?
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I'm one I'm not worried at all. I've been trying to buy but be
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sold to me even without face offs.
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I mean, look, he's I don't love that he's not a big shooter and
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obviously in a face off league that's mitigated.
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But yeah, it's if you're getting him, it's mainly for the points
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and power play points. And I do think that the Hughes
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injury can actually be good for him.
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And power play wise, I'm not worried at all on the top ones.
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And usually he's one of those trigger guys in the bumper spot.
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So I think it's going to turn around.
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Transitioning. To eating that up.
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Transitioning to bad vibes for Josh.
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Next we've got Jonathan Tonaton Miller of the New York Rangers,
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also known as Jonathan Talismanic Miller.
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And yeah, this is a honestly went from the worst vibes I've
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ever had in fantasy picking him first round into the best vibes
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I've ever had in fantasy, trading him plus tights for
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Connor McDavid. So what's going on with JT?
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Why is he so awful? Is that what we can expect for
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the rest of the year? No, on the let's introduce this
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worry meter thing. Cause like, are you, are you
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worried on a, on a scale of 1 to 1010 being very worried.
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I'm with with Jonathan Tonaton, I'm more like at a four.
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I feel like, OK, I mean, that's fair.
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I think 4 to 6 is like the sweet spot.
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Like I think it's going to be better.
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The the Rangers are clicking. It has it.
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It can't get worse. If feels like, but he's still
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getting face offs from the right wing position.
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I mean, I know we talked about face off a lot on this podcast.
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I feel like, but for a lot of those leagues out there, that's
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very valuable, especially from the right wing position.
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But he's still hitting and the shots of honestly kind of been
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did they fluctuate like anybody, but last year they've been
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better than last year. So that's very the underlying
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metrics are there is the points. The points are the big glaring
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like siren alarm like this is five stars on YouTube and also
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glaring, glaring alone. But the I just think it's a
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matter of time before he starts getting involved with the
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points. If the Rangers are clicking,
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he's he's going to be brought along like he's still one of the
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best players on this team. So that's why I'm like a four.
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Is the ceiling lower than maybe anticipated before the season?
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Yes, But because I remember before the season, I thought
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really like his ceiling could be like over 100 points.
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Like we've seen him do it in the past when he's talismanic on a
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team like this. But it seems like the slow start
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has kind of stopped. Like I wonder if he's just not
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talismanic for this team not to, you know, not to be crazy, but
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like, maybe it's like maybe the Trocheck Panarin and whoever
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they put on that line with them, you know, but that seems to be
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the first line and this advantage and Miller and whoever
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they put on that, you know, 1 is coolly 1 is laugh, but that
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seems to be kind of like taken backstage.
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I think, you know, it's a chance did really good this year, but
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he's definitely not like the main guy on that team.
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And like, I think if Miller was playing with Panarin, then I'd
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feel a lot better because I do think Panarin's the top guy on
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that team. And yeah, I mean, I'm look back.
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That's why he's a stud, that there's a reason why you get to
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pick so highly in bangers leagues and why people in points
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leagues are like, why the heck does this guy get picked so
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highly? Right, because it stuff doesn't
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necessarily apply to them. But so in that in that sense,
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he's great and New York is the best playoff schedule.
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But the points, I'm very concerned.
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It seems even when they've been turning it on, they've been
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scoring like they just got like a six goal game.
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They had another like five goal game and he got like 0 points in
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both of them. And that's the scary part.
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Once the whole team not scoring, then it's like, OK, like once
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they start score, like a whole team doesn't just not score
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goals. I mean, the Rangers did that
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this so far, but now they're turning it around.
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But when the whole team scores like six goals and he's not
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getting involved, that's what I'm worried.
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OK, quick question on that. Who gets more points?
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Nico Hischer? JT Miller rests season.
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He sure. He sure restless season, really.
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Yeah, that was fast. OK.
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But I'm also the number one hater of Jonathan.
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Jonathan So. Can I, can I give you like a
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line and see like would you rather Leo Carlson or J Miller
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in a bangers league would face offs?
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J. I just.
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Making all the pieces right now. I wish you could see it, and you
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can. I'm trying.
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I'm trying so hard to take my bias out of like having owned
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him for OK, let me put myself in this situation.
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I drafted Leo Carlson super late.
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I didn't draft JT. Am I trying to buy low, sell
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high? Yeah, probably.
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But I would be asking for JT plus.
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That's a good line. Look, that has duties, not doing
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JT plus he's selling a first round pick at a steep discount
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for a guy that well that was a sell high.
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Yeah, I don't know for how bad JT has been and how good Leo's
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been. I don't think that's out of the
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question. I mean, our league wouldn't
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happen. But you know what about this?
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Celebrity or GT? Not celebrating.
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Yeah, OK. Britton Point.
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I think JT over points, yeah. That's pretty easy.
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What about right? I'll take all Reinhart just
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started being good now, so it's hard to take out the recency
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bias. Yeah, we gotta move on to the
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next. Yeah.
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Alright. I'll go with Reinhart because I
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hate JT. OK, next we've got, this was
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talked about a lot, but we've got Blackwood, Mackenzie
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Blackwood and Scott Wedgewood of the Colorado Avalanche.
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Kevin was a Wedgwood believer. Then he dropped him and he got
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Snoop scooped up by someone else and.
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What would whisper? I walk every day in my shoes
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with guilt that I dropped him. And I'm being genuine right now
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because first of all, I need goalies on.
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Yeah, it's it's actually like that would be the perfect pickup
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for you. I believe too much in Josh.
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When you told me that Black was gonna be the starter.
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No. Question, but I still believe
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Black, what's gonna be the starter?
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I think they're easing him back in.
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But I will say I think it might end up being closer to 5050 by
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the time that Blackwood, there's no way in my mind that was
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getting more starts. I still don't believe that, but
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I do think it could end up being a 5050.
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I mean, I did all the Wedgewood research for nothing because I
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didn't I didn't have conviction in my week when they came down
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to it. But I I think I think I think
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right now what was getting more starts because he's playing
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better. And I think he's playing better
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because he's actually a good goalie.
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And I think Blackwood could struggle with form and also like
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he has to take advantage of the opportunities that are thrown at
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him because what it is. So I would not be shocked if
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Wedgewood gets like a 6040 for the rest of the season.
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That would not be shocked at. All if you had Blackwood, would
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you offer him one for one for Wedgwood?
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Guys, Blackwood is on waivers and a lot of leagues like people
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are seeing him there and like should I pick up Blackwood?
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Like people don't want him on their rosters because right now
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he's going to get don't start a week.
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Yeah. So it's tough.
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And I don't know what did you ask me if I would?
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Trade you had Blackwood, would you trade him one for one for
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Wedgewood? Yes, I would.
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You would. How much wood would a woodchuck?
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Chuck, this won't be a 5050, though I don't see it working
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out that way. I think it's going to be a clear
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one. Right.
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So just who do you give the edge to, Jackie?
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Lockwood. Nice.
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Yeah, OK. But it'll be interesting to see,
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like, I still think, like Gigi said, I still think black.
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What's the guy? But right now, Wedgewood's doing
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everything in his power to make us look silly.
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Yes. OK, here's a fun one.
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Or not so fun. Ivan Demidov of the Montreal
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Canadiens. I don't know if you guys have
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looked at his game log recently, but it is brutal.
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I'm not surprised here. This is a young player on a team
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that's frankly also been brutal over the stretch that he's been
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brutal, right? When they were good, he was good
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and they were not. When they're now that they're
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going through a cold stretch, he's just not doing that well.
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He's tremendously skilled. The back hats are going to be
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extremely sporadic all over the place.
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That's expected and even at the best of times, I think that's
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going to be the case. But when it's all said and done,
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I expect this points to be like .75 to .8 on the season, which
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with a player of his skill, if you ever watched these games,
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you're not that surprised. So to me, it's just like, you
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know, whether the storm or if someone's panicking owns him,
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it's probably not a Habs fan because otherwise they're not
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gonna get rid of him. It's just too fun to watch.
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That being said, yeah, I would trade for him now if I could and
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just expect a bit of a roller coaster.
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I don't really want the Madhava my roster.
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I, I, I'm a huge Travis fan. I don't have him in any of my
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leagues this year. I just think she has a lot of
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potential. But I knew there were gonna be
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bumps in the road this season. And especially with it's the
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it's the line 1. You know that that line one
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likes to stick together. And when he's not on P1, like
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we're seeing him average over the last couple of weeks, 1213
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minutes. And like that's not enough to
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have an actual impact for your fantasy teams.
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That doesn't mean he won't have moments of brilliance.
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We've seen it already. He's a tremendous player and
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he's going to be a tremendous player for years to come.
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But right now I feel like the floor is pretty low and I'd
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rather just stream production from that spot as opposed to
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like holding him like Jake, you're you, you said you would
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trade for him. Like who would you give for
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them? Don't like?
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No, you gotta. You can't give anything too
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crazy just because it's banger costs are just not that great,
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right? But you know I.
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Would rather have Brock Besser or Demidov.
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Probably. Probably Besser not being said.
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I don't. Think it's close?
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Yeah, like Jackson, Blake, I would take Demidov and Blake's
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been pretty solid. But the streamer guy?
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Yeah, well, we're in a deep league, like.
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Yeah, we're in a deep, does have to be on waivers in our league,
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but yeah. Yeah, no, I I agree.
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Like I don't think that I'm not too excited to have my team
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right now. We didn't talk about, but he got
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demoted off power play one right for both Duke and I don't think
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that's gonna last all season. I think it's gonna be a back and
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forth type of thing. But it just shows that he's not
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a lock on that power play 1 even though he should be.
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But yeah, I mean, this is all comes with being a rookie,
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right, and not being like when you get drafted as a rookie,
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who's a super strike this and you get drafted to a team like
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Chicago, like bar, did you get dropped team like San Jose, like
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celebrity, did you immediately go in and you're the best player
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on that team. When you get when you get
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drafted by a team like the Habs, who are kind of like moving up,
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the boat goes up in the rebuild, you know, and we've got a
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Suzuki, we've got a Cofield. We got us Lefkofsky already.
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Like you're not the number one priority, even though he
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genuinely could be the most skilled guy on the team in in
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the next couple years, but he's just not getting that top tier
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deployment. And that makes a big difference.
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No matter how good you are, if you're lying to power play too,
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and you get no bad cats. It's not someone I'm
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particularly excited to talk on my team.
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Yep, would rather suck Benson or Demidov.
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Demanov That's that's clear to me.
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Yeah, I would take Demidov, but I wouldn't be surprised if
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Benson does better because he has better deployment.
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OK, Victor Hedman day-to-day, probably back soon, but even
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before he got injured, bumped to power play 2 for the go to
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Darren Radish, elite offensive defenseman.
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We've seen this last year. It didn't never lasted, but it
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kind of flipped back and forth for a while and we're seeing it
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again now. Why is John Cooper doing this?
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I don't know. I wish I I wish I could ask John
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Cooper myself, because I want an explanation.
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I demand an explanation, you know, yeah, panic meter wide on
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Victor Hedman. It's like a 2 for me.
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Like I'm it's just, it sucks when this happens and he gets
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demoted. We've seen it happen last year
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as well. I was a Victor Hedman owner.
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I traded for him last year and then I saw him get demoted,
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which was pretty, pretty sucky if you ask me.
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But we're seeing it happen again this year.
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And he was on a point streak as well.
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So it just goes to show that, like, you know, the power play
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is like a completely different element to the game.
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But he's also battling injury. I think he comes back healthy.
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He gets that P1 spot. And then, you know, when Tampa
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starts clicking, it's because Victor Hedman is gonna be on the
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Power Play 1 and he's gonna be successful.
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So we've seen this before. It's when you're in the weeds of
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it. It's tough and it's a tough pill
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to swallow with the value of your player.
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But I'd be trying to buy right now, and I have.
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I just haven't been able to pull off anything but I have been
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trying. Yeah, me too.
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I'm with you there on all fronts.
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Yeah, yeah. Alright, rotation.
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Mailbag questions. Are mailbag questions all right?
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Let's kind of like power through these.
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So we've got 2K high on Reddit? Asked Dylan Cousins.
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Plus Kyle Connor or Nico Hischier plus Nikita Love.
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Who wins Kucherov? Easy, easy.
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Yeah, like not even close. Because he sure is a close for
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you in a bangers. I mean it depends, it depends
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the league settings but just Kucherov makes it such a non
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topic for me I. Mean the two for two is wild.
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Yeah, I'd rank Kooch, then Connor, then he should, then
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Cousins. That's my.
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Rank. I agree.
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Me too. OK, no cousins thing.
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Sorry, fair enough. OK, let's go.
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OK, yeah, you're gonna have to change your name back once you
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guys get healthy. Yeah, debating already.
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Yeah, OK, Wuku. Layla Lay on Reddit asked have
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Heyman coming off IR I need to drop someone.
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Should I drop Timo Meyer or your Islip Kofsky to activate him?
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Also someone offered me Matthew Nice for Hyman in the keeper
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bangers league, should I accept? So firstly, if it's between
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Meyer and Slough, I'm dropping Slough.
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Same easy to me, especially after direct use injury.
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Exactly, Meyer being definitely power play one for the next 8
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weeks is big and then I would smash except on nice for hymen
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in a keeper bangers league. For me it's a no brainer.
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What rationalize right here? I'd rather hymen this here.
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I. Think I would still rather nice
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this year. I'm pretty big on Hyman.
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I think it's gonna be interesting.
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It's pretty big on you. Oh my God.
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What a disaster. OK, but but in keepers even
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you're agreeing? Yes, hands down.
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OK. For sure, you'll get a lot more
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value in years to come with Matthew guys on your roster.
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Yeah, yeah, and I still think he's be better this year too.
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But that could be, that's debatable.
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I could see Hyman doing it. OK, Kerfuffle on Discord asked
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how do you choose which players slash managers to target in
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trades? I have a system.
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Yeah, I think we have the same system because we always target
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the same people. Yeah, so, so where we have like
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a disproportionate amount of Habs fans, so it's very hard,
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You know, we were talking about demo at all earlier.
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The Demidov owner is going to be way more reluctant to part with
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him than someone else. So if you know that someone's
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like a Homer, then yeah, if you have them at all for instance.
19:37
And there's a Habs fan in your league like he's gonna pay more
19:40
than a non Demidov owner just as an example.
19:43
But go for your system as well. Just.
19:46
Wanted to, I mean, my system is I'll scroll to the bottom of the
19:49
standings. Yep, I'll look at that team.
19:52
I'll look at who their first round pick was.
19:53
I'll look at who their second and third round pick was.
19:55
I'll look at why their team is bad and they're in last place.
19:58
And then I'll see, OK, who do I have that can make their team
20:01
better as also like identifying the buy low targets that are
20:06
underperforming on their team. If you're in last place, they
20:09
probably need better production. So looking to capitalize on
20:12
underperforming top level. Layer on the worst team in the
20:16
league and then I worked my way up from the standings, OK, go
20:18
through the last place team in the second last place, third
20:20
last place and just see and try to also like just give my
20:24
players that I know are overperforming for their players
20:26
I know are underperforming that I like better rest of the
20:29
season. And that's kind of how, but also
20:31
like I think I mentioned in the discord too, like somebody asked
20:33
this question already, but you also have to, if you're in a
20:37
competitive league where actually like every manager
20:39
wants to win and they're not just like in there for Legos,
20:42
like you have to give to receive.
20:45
No, actually we can. We can.
20:46
I know, you know, I don't think we do have to believe that.
20:50
Nonetheless, you have to give to receive.
20:52
And you wanna see like what your team is good at or you have an
20:54
abundance of and find a team that needs that position, right?
20:57
Like so it's both teams should feel like they're winning the
21:01
trade. If you want to get a good deal
21:02
done, obviously there's ways to make it a big win for you, but
21:06
you're not going to be a fleece. If you're making a good deal,
21:08
it'll never be a fleece. I also like I like when you
21:12
still want to be like winning the trade, even if it's on a
21:14
police. You like just a slight win, but
21:16
I like when you have a reason for making the trade other than
21:19
I just think your players better than mine.
21:21
And so like something like for that with like Kevin was saying
21:24
with making both teams better, Let's say I have too many
21:26
defensemen and I see a team that doesn't have a defenseman, you
21:28
know, because I'm like, I'll trade you this defenseman for
21:30
your forward, you know, and like they should be similar in value,
21:34
but I think your guys slightly better, but you don't
21:36
intrinsically. The other person doesn't
21:38
intrinsically think they're only doing this because I think it's
21:40
better. They're doing it OK.
21:41
He needs the position flexibility.
21:43
So I'm not a suspicious of him, you know, like pretty much.
21:46
Flexibility. So it's like a win, win.
21:48
That's it. Exactly.
21:49
Like if you're just sending a one for one of the same
21:51
position, you're essentially saying I think your guys better
21:53
than my guy and I'm hoping you think my guys better than yours.
21:56
And if so, let's make the trade and see who's right, you know,
21:58
and that's. Just another one for one.
21:59
Like, no, that's not the best, that's not a great way to do it.
22:01
So definitely that. And then yeah, in terms like
22:03
buying low, selling high, like the second I have a gun, my team
22:06
who I'm like, wow, this guys been a pleasant surprise this
22:07
year. Immediately I'm sending him a
22:09
trade off. I'm never like time to just
22:10
enjoy the ride. I'm like, no, this guys doing
22:12
too well. It's getting me out.
22:13
Let's trade him for someone who's doing terribly.
22:16
And and that's how you tear up, you know, so that's, that's kind
22:18
of my mind. On it and then also the hobbits
22:21
like Josh likes being the guide to receive the higher end talent
22:25
if it's a 2 for two or three for three right like you got
22:27
Kucherov or let's just talk about the McDavid trade.
22:30
You got McDavid and you gave up JT Miller and Tage Thompson.
22:33
Like that's tough in. Fairness offered to him by the
22:38
guy who won the last year was the first round pick, so that's
22:42
the first of all. He thought like hey, it's like I
22:44
got like I drafted 5 spots later in the draft.
22:48
But I also get Tage Thompson like big win T sucks.
22:52
But. But that guy, you know, loves
22:56
JT, he's not him on his ears as him in years past and he's done
22:59
super well with him. So if you know a player, like
23:02
there's a guy in our league who loves Kempe, right?
23:04
You know, if you have Kempe, you could sell it to him for higher
23:07
than the other guy. So literally, yeah, kerfuffle
23:09
know your league, know their habits, the league mates and
23:12
just in general. The last thing I'll say is that
23:14
like you want to do a 2 for two, like you don't wanna be giving
23:17
A2 for one because it just feels like lopsided.
23:19
So add in their best player, or their worst player, rather
23:22
sorry, in addition to the guy you're really aiming to get.
23:25
Yeah, I like that because a lot of times, 2 for ones have like a
23:28
bad connotation, like no one wants to be the one receiving
23:30
the two. You always want to be the one
23:31
receiving the one. Yeah.
23:32
But if you're like, here, give me also your worst player who is
23:34
this the same as 2 for one where you just drop that guy anyways.
23:37
But they're like, Oh my God, maybe I'm getting value for this
23:39
garbage player and this guy doesn't realize, you know?
23:40
So it's a fun way to frame it. Anyways, let's move on.
23:44
Darren on Discord asked how do you assess the value of your
23:46
players with bad playoff schedules?
23:48
I currently have Cooley, Keller, Montour, and I like all of them,
23:50
but that's a lot of bad playoff schedules to hold.
23:52
I feel like we've talked about this in past episodes and on the
23:55
Discord a lot, so I don't think we should dive into it too much.
23:58
But I think at the end of the day, it's don't sell guys way
24:02
undervalued just because they have a bad playoff schedule.
24:04
But if you can make a lateral move and improve your playoff
24:07
schedule, then I'm very looking to do that.
24:10
I'm always I'm always looking to better my playoff schedule.
24:12
So if I know I have a guy like this, like I just traded will
24:15
not will Cooley, Logan Cooley in a in a package deal where I end
24:19
up getting like Reinhart and Brad Cooley wasn't the main
24:23
centerpiece of that trade, But like the fact that I knew that I
24:25
was getting a better playoff schedule in return.
24:26
Like I'm already looking to make moves like that.
24:28
I love their value right now, but that doesn't mean that if I
24:31
have an opportunity to sell, I won't take it.
24:33
So I'm looking for opportunities to sell.
24:36
But you're not doing it at a discount either.
24:37
No? Like you're doing it for value
24:39
but also getting the better playoff schedule?
24:42
Yeah. OK.
24:44
Josh Perry on discord asked. I have all marked from Elka
24:47
Markstrom and want to package one with a skater to get a
24:50
better skater in return. Who would be a good target?
24:53
My league really values PIM shots hits.
24:56
So I feel like it's always a bit vague when when we get these
24:58
types of questions right. So this would more just be like
25:01
who are good buy lows right now? And I feel like the top of my
25:05
mind I'm looking at like we once we talked about this past this
25:08
past episode, right, like Guenther Dorfen V pointless
25:11
target is obviously the top target.
25:13
I don't know if you can get him with the with these goalies.
25:17
But again, it depends who the player you're packaging with is
25:19
as well. But I'd say might not be the
25:22
best answer about say, look, listen to our Bilo High episode
25:25
and and who are you most? Likely to try to trade out of
25:28
these three goalies. OK, that's a good one.
25:31
Um, who I think has the most value right now?
25:34
Who's out of these three? Who are you looking to sell?
25:36
Like? Who are you trying to?
25:38
Selling a package doesn't necessarily mean it's like the
25:41
worst one of the three, but it might mean who you're trying to
25:43
capitalize on their value. Yeah, that's a good question.
25:47
I don't think I would try and trade all marks.
25:49
I don't think his value is very high with how he's been doing
25:51
and I don't want to sell low on a guy and I believe he's going
25:54
to turn it around with the coming back.
25:57
Honestly, I feel like Markstrom may have the highest value
25:59
because of being on New Jersey. I think that Jacques injury is
26:02
pretty big and I think that Jake Allen has randomly been solid
26:05
when he comes in and marched into an injury prone.
26:06
So out of the three, he'd be the one I'd be trying to trade the
26:08
most. To Musically or Markstrom?
26:11
Would you trade Markstrom and get his your back?
26:14
Yes, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I would.
26:16
That could be kind of fun. Yeah, I.
26:18
Like that Markstrom for he sure I didn't in a small player and
26:21
see if the main thing with this though is look at your league
26:26
and see who needs goalie. Identify that team.
26:29
OK, they need goalie. Now look at performing on their
26:31
team. Look at their roster, who's on
26:32
their performing and see if you need an upgrade at that
26:34
position. Add one of your guys, add
26:36
Markstrom and see if you can get that player.
26:38
Yeah, I think that's a great way to look at it, OK.
26:42
And Corderi on Discord asked how many hockey barns have you guys
26:45
been to? Which was your favorite?
26:47
I know that answer. OK, you go first because it's.
26:50
I've only been to the Bell Centre.
26:53
OK, this is like the littest 1. It is.
26:55
It is. It's the best thing, it's the
26:56
best arena and everybody knows it and the players know it, the
27:00
staff know it. We just do it different in
27:01
Montreal, guys. Yeah.
27:03
So if you haven't been, you should visit and if you're in
27:05
town, let us know. Maybe we'll get a poutine
27:07
together or something. That's so Quebec, yeah, I I've
27:13
never been when I hear the the Dallas stadium is crazy stadium
27:17
arena like I've. Heard it's just.
27:19
Off the chains and really good, which is cool because it's in
27:22
Texas and there's not a lot of snow there.
27:24
But same, the Bell Centre also, I've been to, it's called the
27:29
Air Canada Centre, right? Toronto, yeah, that was that was
27:33
pretty cool. And I've not seen hockey, but
27:36
I've been to Madison Square Garden and that looks.
27:38
Like I've been there for next game but I don't know if that
27:40
counted. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:42
So I mean, I imagine. That accounts.
27:44
For hockey, that's pretty crazy. Like it's cool.
27:46
Stadium. Wait, you've only been to
27:47
Montreal and Toronto for hockey? Yeah, that's crazy.
27:50
Yeah, I thought you might have been more.
27:52
I've been to 7 all Toronto, Ottawa, I've been to Florida,
27:59
the classic. Like Montreal is going to
28:00
Florida for winter break. And back in the day before
28:02
Florida got good, it was all Habs fans in the stands and the
28:05
fan, the tickets were super cheap.
28:06
So yeah, Florida was cool. I've been to Vegas.
28:08
That was my 21st birthday party. I went to Vegas and we went to,
28:12
it wasn't against the haves, but it was a Golden Knights game.
28:15
And that's my my #2 Arena after Bell Centre because they just
28:18
really make it a show and it's awesome.
28:20
Yeah, I went to LA. I was visiting my brother in LA
28:23
during the playoffs 2 years ago. One of the many LA versus
28:26
Edmonton series and I got to go to one of those games.
28:29
Yeah, that was awesome. And then I've been to Washington
28:33
because that's near where I live now.
28:35
So. But now that I'm in now that I'm
28:36
kind of like East Coast of the states, like I'm planning on
28:39
hitting up a lot of those. I wanna hit them both New Yorks.
28:42
I wanna go to Philly. I wanna go to Pittsburgh.
28:45
I wanna go to Yeah, there's a lot of.
28:48
The. Area my least favorite that's
28:52
tough I had a good time at all of them.
28:54
It was on it's all like it was all just different vibes.
28:57
But yeah, I don't want to trash any any one of them because I
29:00
like them all so very. Very.
29:02
Politically correct and very Switzerland on that one.
29:05
Yeah exactly. Haven't been to Switzerland but
29:09
not yet. OK Dingus Lord on discord asked
29:12
who are some good targets to sell high on Will Cooley.
29:16
I got offered a point plus 1/10 for Cooley plus 1/7.
29:19
Should I take it? Also does your answer change if
29:21
it's a keeper league? First of all I'm 100% taken
29:25
point and a 10th for cooling 1/7.
29:28
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I would love to know if this is a
29:30
banger league because with what will cool he's doing in points
29:32
you would never be I would be surprised if people are also
29:35
likely he's he's relevant in points leagues as well right
29:38
now. So that's fair.
29:39
But I'm I'm saying it's gotta be even in the points that you like
29:43
category leads with bangers obviously is his main go to for
29:46
Will Cooley. But you gotta take point.
29:48
I think he point has many years to come at 90 point production.
29:51
Yeah, Will Cooley is a pleasant surprise this year with what
29:54
he's doing currently. He's gonna be mainly a power
29:57
forward with the double, double, but I don't like he's not gonna
30:01
hit 90 points. Yeah.
30:03
Yeah, it points to the franchise centre on this team then like
30:06
you know, it could. Travis got like another probably
30:09
4 good years at least got Gensel there.
30:12
I mean I don't see him being usurped if that was the proper
30:16
word on power play 1. Thing.
30:18
That's a good word. Thank you.
30:19
He's not talismanic to his team. That being said I mean cuz
30:25
controls the guy but points really a fantastic player and
30:31
depending on how many keepers this league actually has, by the
30:35
time you get to the seventh round it may be drawing up
30:37
already. So the 7th to the 10th, like who
30:39
knows what kind of discrepancy you're dealing with, right?
30:41
Yep. So you gotta go with the top
30:43
offensive potential here and Brayden Point. 100% Yep.
30:47
OK Low tides on discord asked in a regular points league I have
30:51
Blackwood, Wedgewood, and Mursley skins.
30:53
Should I hold all three or drop an Avs goalie and just run with
30:55
two? I would say if you're going to
30:57
drop a goalie the drop is definitely mislead and not one
30:59
of the guys. And I definitely prefer running
31:02
two goalies. I'd be pretty happy with just
31:03
the black one. We don't love holding 2 goalies
31:06
from the same team, but if you're gonna do it in
31:08
Colorado's, probably the team to do it with.
31:11
So I don't hate just running with the two of them.
31:13
And you won't win like any volume goalie categories, but or
31:16
I guess it's a points league, so you're not gonna win much volume
31:19
stuff, but you should get good quality out of them.
31:21
Yeah. I will say though, like Elvis,
31:23
we've seen him recently, he he hasn't started a game in like 4
31:27
or five games. Like Grieves even started the
31:29
back to backs. But the context there is that he
31:32
was sick so maybe not able to perform.
31:36
But before that they were splitting 5050 like it was
31:38
literally every game they were alternating.
31:40
I'd be curious to see if know now that he's healthy and not
31:43
sick anymore. He's projected to start
31:46
tomorrow, so on Tuesday, so we'll know after that if it's
31:50
going to be back to 5050 or if it's just like he's playing back
31:52
to backs and Jack greases the guy.
31:53
From moving forward like 5050 on Columbus is not the most
31:57
exciting spot to be. It's not like the Columbus of
32:00
last year that was on a tear towards the end of the season.
32:02
This is like. But he might get more sports
32:03
than Blackwood. Yeah, that's fair.
32:06
Like but I don't know, I don't see Blackwood getting less than
32:08
50% of the stats and colour also way better than Columbus.
32:11
You also just can't think the risk of dropping Blackwood
32:13
knowing that if you if the tables turn, you're you're in a
32:16
terrible position because if the tables turned, which was not
32:19
going to be getting most of the starts and you just dropped, you
32:21
gotta see you get most of the stars.
32:22
Like you're kind of putting in a position where you have to rely
32:24
on this tandem and you can break it.
32:27
And I wish I knew what other available goals are because I'm
32:31
sure you could find a third to have in the mix besides Elvis.
32:34
Like if the main waiver wire, they're they're like, I'd love
32:37
to do that. But I really don't like having
32:40
two guys on the same team. So like I'm with you, like merge
32:42
Lykins is the one to go. And then what I would try to do
32:44
is sell Wedgewood. Yeah.
32:47
So if you're gonna sell one of them, it would be Wedgwood has
32:49
much more value, right? Now exactly.
32:50
And we said in the the Hot Topic section that at least I think
32:53
Blackwood's more likely to get most stars for rest of the
32:56
season. So I would want, you can't drop
32:59
any of the Colorado guys right now, but I would want Blackwood
33:02
and Wedgwood is the highest value that would be my course
33:05
of. Action I do want to add though,
33:06
if I'm selling him, I want to get a goalie in return because
33:10
you even like, yes, you're not dropping one, but if you're
33:13
selling 1 and you sell the wrong one, you're still in the same
33:15
position after. So you gotta get a goalie.
33:18
You know it's going to be a starter.
33:20
If that's the case, then yeah, definitely look to sell.
33:22
But if not, you need to keep both of these guys until you see
33:25
what this is how the situation plays out.
33:26
Yeah, OK, schools on discord asked how would you value John
33:31
Tavares compared to some other top centres in a Cats league
33:33
with goals, assists, points, power play, points, shots, hits
33:36
and blocks. Some sees who got drafted higher
33:38
than him are point he sure Peterson and Aho.
33:42
So we won't compare to every centre there is, but let's
33:44
compare to these four guys. Where would you rank to various
33:46
among these guys in this league settings?
33:51
I think. He has an interesting line.
33:53
Yeah, keep, keep, keep in mind there's no face off wins here.
33:56
Yeah, exactly. That's that's why.
33:58
Definitely taking to various overhead.
33:59
Sure, me too and I think points should be better than to virus.
34:05
Um, what about Larkin? I love Larkin, I think.
34:08
So I take Larkin for sure, OK. Suzuki I'm taking, but of the
34:12
ones here I'm taking Tavarius over he.
34:15
Sure, I'm taking Tavarius probably over Peterson, even
34:17
though Peterson got 6 points in his last three games.
34:20
Yeah, but I think I'm taking point Anaho over to.
34:23
Yes, absolutely from you. Yeah, but maybe Patterson over
34:27
to virus for me as well. Maybe.
34:30
What about? That's the top ₹1.
34:31
Is tough one. I'm talking to various over
34:34
hints, but like I really love what hints has been doing.
34:37
OK, what about poor? About rest of the season.
34:40
I gotta go with my boy Boo. Trocheck.
34:44
Now you gotta go track, especially with this.
34:46
Yeah, yeah, OK. Of this list point Aho Peterson,
34:52
Dan Tavares. Then he's your son.
34:54
What's going to look quite tea? With.
34:56
Math back well you know what with the surprise appearance by
35:00
tea brought us to brings us to the next one Kara on discord
35:04
asked we saw Kevin's cat and loved her do you guys have any
35:07
other pets that's. There's no way the.
35:09
Timing on that one on Earth. She does not want to be here
35:13
right now. She wants to go eat her poop or
35:14
something. But Oh my God, OK.
35:17
Eat or poop, Not eat her poop. Just heard eat her poop.
35:24
It was like. Creatures, they do not do that.
35:27
OK. OK, yeah, no, I don't have any
35:31
pets, but I'm currently living with the in laws and they just
35:33
got a puppy, so that's been a lot of fun.
35:35
That's cute. OHS a new puppy?
35:37
Yeah. Oh my God.
35:38
What's his name or. Her name?
35:39
Boo. Boo for there ohb O.
35:47
Yeah. Yeah, I, I have a, I mean family
35:50
puppies, but we got 2 little got 2 little puppies.
35:52
They're miniature poodles. They're the best.
35:56
But they live with my parents and my girlfriend has cat tail,
36:01
who is now also my cat. So we share tea cat and who does
36:06
not eat her own poop And yes. Jake, you got anything?
36:10
No, I don't have any pets. OK Joshua, if you're on on
36:14
Discord, if I like everyone on my team but can't stream, should
36:17
I be trying to do a 2 for one to clear up a streaming spot?
36:19
Absolutely. You should always be trying to
36:23
do a 2 for one, even if you don't like everybody on your
36:25
team. Yeah.
36:25
Yeah, for once the move always. The important thing to remember
36:28
with fantasy hockey is that you don't any get any prize for 5th
36:33
place. It's not a thing.
36:35
It's not like. It depends on your league maybe.
36:37
Well, yeah, I mean it could be like the Flint, MI megabowl 4th
36:41
place win. That would be hilarious.
36:42
And if any of you have that, please let us know.
36:44
That being said, like the reason you want the two for one is
36:47
because it's like it's really kind of all or nothing vibes.
36:49
You want to be the best team in the season or the playoffs or
36:51
both depending on how your league, you know, divvies up
36:54
your prizes. So that's why 2 for one, it's
36:57
where it's at. You can do a lot, especially
36:59
this is relatively early on. It's tougher in March, but
37:03
November is way too early. There's gonna be 3 or 4 guys
37:06
that we probably don't even know about yet that are gonna pop
37:09
off. So 2 for ones are where it's at.
37:11
You want. That if you're listening to this
37:12
podcast, you're going to hear about the guys before the rest
37:14
of your league does, so you want that open roster spot to be able
37:17
to grab them. Yes, because you want to
37:19
consolidate value into that better player.
37:21
And then like, yes, you're losing a lot of value from your
37:23
position. The fact that you can like
37:25
stream from waivers and it doesn't mean you're just picking
37:28
up a guy and holding him for the rest of the season.
37:29
Like you can stream above average production from that
37:32
spot if you're making the right pick up on the right week,
37:35
maximizing for games played. And that's I mean, that's what
37:37
we're here for. We're giving you guys the name,
37:38
we're giving you guys the opportunities to maximize that
37:41
spot. And that's why you should always
37:43
be looking to consolidate into one better player because first
37:45
of all, that player usually is able to be, you know, have more
37:49
impactful weeks for you has the higher ceiling.
37:51
So you want to get a better player and then also like the
37:53
ability to stream. It's like a win, win in both
37:55
facets. Yeah, alright, that finishes off
37:59
the mail bag. Thank you to everybody for
38:02
listening. This was nice.
38:05
Good hot topics, good mailbag. Thanks to everybody who
38:08
submitted questions there's. And great company you guys
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