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- 0:08Hi, I'm Danny Tan, and if you are here, you are in the right
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- 0:46OK, so for today we're talk about why you keep going in
- 0:49circles and not in circles in the sense of, oh, I'm I'm
- 0:53sitting on the same loop of the same thought or belief and I'm
- 0:56not taking action forward. But in the sense of you keep
- 0:59revisiting potentially decisions that you've already made and why
- 1:03do you keep revisiting them? Why are you going in these
- 1:05circles around the decisions that have already been decided?
- 1:09And what this can come up in is, for example, let's say you are
- 1:12looking to explore career pivot. You're trying to make a change
- 1:15in your career. And so you decided that you were
- 1:18going to explore, you know, this one path after looking at three
- 1:23different paths. So for example, when we're
- 1:24working together with my clients, I have an exercise that
- 1:27people go through in order to narrow down like their skill
- 1:31sets, their expertise, their experience.
- 1:33What is it they enjoy to narrow down at least to one to two
- 1:37paths that they can go ahead and pursue and start to do research
- 1:39for and go forward with. Now a lot of times people come
- 1:42up and say, oh, I'm not sure what I want to do.
- 1:44I'm clearly unclear or I'm indecisive or, you know, I need
- 1:47help and guidance. And then we do the exercise.
- 1:49They get one path, let's say it gets 3, let's say they get 3 to
- 1:532, two to three paths and they narrow it down to 1.
- 1:57They will start to work towards that one.
- 1:58And then those are just circle back.
- 2:00I'm not actually sure. I'm not sure if I want this one.
- 2:02What if I want to look at the other two?
- 2:04What was what was the option two?
- 2:05What was option 3? And they start to go back to the
- 2:08beginning and they are basically circling and going back to
- 2:13decisions that were already made.
- 2:14And so this is not somebody who is short of making decisions or
- 2:18short of options. It's actually that they are
- 2:21going back to the beginning after they've already made
- 2:24decisions and how that actually can slow you down, right?
- 2:27And so let's talk about it. So what is actually going on?
- 2:31So you're not stuck, you just may have multiple paths open,
- 2:36right? So if you or somebody's looking
- 2:37to do a career pivot or change, you might have multiple paths
- 2:40open. You may have the path of
- 2:42marketing, the path of customer success, the the path of, you
- 2:46know, project manager. You may have multiple paths.
- 2:49And so you may have decided to move forward with path A, But
- 2:52then you start to question, is path A the right path?
- 2:54And you start to think about path B and path C, right.
- 2:57That might be you, another person that it might be.
- 2:59Is that about building a business?
- 3:00Oh, I think I want to help this kind of person, even though you
- 3:04may have had three different types people you wanted, you may
- 3:07start circling back. Oh, do I actually want to help
- 3:09somebody who is focused on nonprofit website website design
- 3:13or do I want to focus on helping somebody who's going to be more
- 3:17so, you know, for profits website design?
- 3:21Like you may just start going back to decisions you've already
- 3:24made. And so if that is the case, you
- 3:27are in reality, you are reopening the decisions that you
- 3:33thought you made, you're revisiting, you're revisiting
- 3:35options. And this is like just to check
- 3:37and you're questioning the progress instead of building
- 3:39upon it. So you take like 2 steps and you
- 3:42go three steps backwards. And the thing that is most
- 3:45important is that this is holding you back in so many ways
- 3:48and slowing you down so many ways versus just owning that
- 3:51decision. And so I'm thinking about a
- 3:52client specifically who for career pivots, for example, she
- 3:57had three paths laid out in front of her and we narrowed it
- 4:01down to one for her to start to focus on and work on.
- 4:03And then as she was going through the process of
- 4:06informational interview, doing market research, doing the party
- 4:10exercise, doing the love live without exercise, she started to
- 4:14say, oh, I don't know. I don't know if this is the
- 4:15right one. Doesn't what if it's what it
- 4:17was? What if it was B?
- 4:18What if it was C, Right. And so that does not help you
- 4:22because this is the thing I want you to understand.
- 4:25These circles are not confusion. They are decisions without
- 4:29boundaries. So if you are constantly
- 4:32circling back to the decisions you've already made, that means
- 4:36you are making decisions without boundaries because you're not
- 4:39holding to what it is that you said you were going to do, which
- 4:41for you is not good because that means you are starting to
- 4:45question yourself, trust, and you're not able to necessarily
- 4:49be like, OK, I've got my back, I know what I'm doing.
- 4:51You actually are second guessing yourself, which is not good for
- 4:55yourself. Trust in that sense.
- 4:57And so the reflection that I have for you is what decision do
- 4:59you keep reopening? So what decision do you keep
- 5:02revisiting like you decided it, but you keep back to it because
- 5:06that is starting to deteriorate solely your ability to trust
- 5:09your decision making skills in yourself.
- 5:12But also it is slowing you down from taking the movement and the
- 5:15action that you want to do because you're going backwards
- 5:17every single time. So think about what decision do
- 5:20you keep reopening versus just committing to?
- 5:23And then I want to talk about like, why going in this like
- 5:26circle back to your decisions feel safer than taking any
- 5:29direction Circles feel safe because then there's nothing
- 5:32final, right? And so every single time you
- 5:35keep things kind of open, you keep going back to them.
- 5:38It's like you haven't really taken the time to fully test out
- 5:40that path. You've never, you don't have any
- 5:42risk because you haven't really fully committed to one path.
- 5:46You don't feel like you've lost anything because it doesn't feel
- 5:48necessarily real yet. And so all that safety, the
- 5:51safety of not feeling like you have taken a risk or that you've
- 5:55really tested it, I mean, that doesn't feel real, is at a cost,
- 5:59right? Because you're actually not
- 6:01moving forward. And it just feels safer to
- 6:03constantly read the decisions that you've already decided.
- 6:06And so the things that I want you to think about is what
- 6:09options keep getting reconsidered.
- 6:11So what decisions did you already make that you keep going
- 6:14back to and questioning and trying to negotiate with
- 6:18yourself on the decision that you made?
- 6:20And if the decision hasn't been contained, you know what?
- 6:25What decision have you not allowed to be set in stone?
- 6:29And even if it's temporary, it has to be forever.
- 6:33Like, think about it. What options keep getting
- 6:34reconsidered? What decisions are not?
- 6:37Are you not allowed to be cemented in?
- 6:39And what are you afraid? What are you afraid could
- 6:42happen? Or what are you afraid it'll
- 6:43look like if you actually do choose one path?
- 6:46What are those fears like saying for you?
- 6:47And I would say this is that and thinking about, you know, one
- 6:52client who she kept thinking about, oh, OK, do I want to stay
- 6:56in my current role or do I want to apply somewhere else?
- 6:59Do I want to start something new?
- 7:00And she wanted to just she wanted to do all of them all at
- 7:03once. But The thing is, is that yes,
- 7:05is there a way that can kind of happen for sure, but you have to
- 7:08also be able to commit to what is the timeline for those
- 7:11things? What is the priority in those
- 7:13things? And what is it that you need to
- 7:15kind of double down and focus on out of them, right?
- 7:17You can't go 100% on three different from paths.
- 7:21And so to make the decision of, OK, for now, I'm going to commit
- 7:25to my main, my main path that I'm going after is to move up
- 7:30internally or is to move out externally or is to build my
- 7:34business. But you can't go 100% on all
- 7:36three paths. And so versus trying to
- 7:39renegotiate and reconsider the decisions you've made of like,
- 7:42oh, should it be path ABC? You got to pick one and start to
- 7:44explore and commit to it before you go ahead and go backwards
- 7:48and try to change it. And so, so that means if you
- 7:51keep doing that, you don't have any answers to go off of.
- 7:53There is no day to go off of. And so I think that part is
- 7:55really important. So what do you keep reliving
- 7:59instead of actually like trying to make it happen?
- 8:02And so where are you constantly negotiating with yourself
- 8:05decisions? I'm super curious of I made the
- 8:07decision, but you keep going back and you renegotiate it with
- 8:09yourself. And then the last piece is, you
- 8:11know, how do you kind of like break this cycle essentially
- 8:16without pushing yourself? And so this is the thing that I
- 8:18want you to think about. This is something that we talked
- 8:21about within coaching of like create a plan.
- 8:23Like I call, there's so many different ways you can create
- 8:25this plan, but this is the one that I would say is that the
- 8:27first piece is choose your one active lane.
- 8:29So like I was saying, if you have like lane ABC, pick the one
- 8:33that is going to have your attention for now and everything
- 8:36else kind of pauses, not forever, just intentionally.
- 8:39And the second piece just to kind of like help our brains
- 8:41feel a little bit safer, like put a time on it.
- 8:44So if you're like, Oh my gosh, I can't just focus on this one
- 8:47path of internal promotion or this one path of building my
- 8:51business in a certain way, then put a time on it.
- 8:54And that way it removes the pressure feeling like it is
- 8:56forever and it creates safety within your brain.
- 8:58So is that going to be for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days?
- 9:01What do you want to do for that time bound choice while you're
- 9:04taking towards intent alley towards that path?
- 9:07The next piece says you have to review instead of restart versus
- 9:11saying, oh, it's not working or I'm not sure, I don't like it
- 9:14and throwing everything out the window.
- 9:16You want to go ahead and do an analysis 1st and collect some
- 9:19data. So all of the things you did in
- 9:21the 30 day window, 60 or 90 day window for path A, what worked
- 9:25for you? What didn't work?
- 9:26What changed? You have to that analysis first
- 9:28before you go ahead and jump into path 2 or path you know 3
- 9:32because that way you have a good data to understand of what it is
- 9:35you're enjoying versus not. So you know, what kind of takes
- 9:37into effect for the next piece. So for example, I had a client
- 9:41who she was like, OK, I just don't think this path is
- 9:44working. I don't think it's what I want
- 9:46to do. I think I just want to go ahead
- 9:48and, you know, go with another route.
- 9:50OK, great. But we have to understand what
- 9:52parts are you not liking about path A?
- 9:54And some things that came up was like, I don't know, I have
- 9:56enough experience. I don't know if I feel confident
- 9:58speaking about this. I don't know if my credentials
- 10:00reflect that. OK, great.
- 10:02But The thing is though, is that if that stuff is an A, there's
- 10:05some of that stuff that you can still tackle before you go and
- 10:07change to another path because if you don't, it's actually
- 10:09going to carry into other things as well.
- 10:11And so it's just being able to understand for yourself of like,
- 10:13what is working, what's not working?
- 10:15I want you to feel like versus just assuming something is not
- 10:19working because you have not achieved a result right then and
- 10:22there of how can you run a diagnostic and do an analysis on
- 10:25what it is that you've done in order to help prove it?
- 10:28And so we create safety with those choices by collecting
- 10:31data, by collecting evidence, by collecting information and that
- 10:36important. So if you're somebody who keeps
- 10:37going in circles, you're going in circles and you are
- 10:41renegotiating the decisions you have made.
- 10:43I really want you to think about, you know, why why are you
- 10:46going ahead and renegotiating these decisions, why you're
- 10:49reopening them and that why are you not creating boundaries?
- 10:52Essentially you're having boundary list decision making
- 10:54because you decide that you can flip flop whenever you want.
- 10:57And so if you're somebody who keeps saying, oh, I'm a flip
- 10:59flopper or I'm indecisive, this is especially for you because I
- 11:03have lots of folks who are really smart, really more than
- 11:06capable, and they will come in and say I flip flop or I'm
- 11:09indecisive. And the reality is there just
- 11:10has to be a little bit more of structure around your decision
- 11:13making. So you have some like you have a
- 11:16framework essentially to work through when it comes to, OK,
- 11:18like, why am I questioning this and why do I keep renegotiating?
- 11:21It doesn't mean that you can't do that.
- 11:23It just means sitting with, why is that coming up right?
- 11:27And what is working versus not working in that?
- 11:29And before you throw it in the garbage, give it like a
- 11:31timeline, test it and then see what worked with didn't work and
- 11:35then go ahead and retest. And that was what's most
- 11:36important when it comes to why you're going in circles, but
- 11:39you're going in circles mainly because you have too many paths
- 11:43open. You are revisiting them and
- 11:46you're just check to see how you're doing and you're
- 11:48questioning yourself versus building upon the progress that
- 11:51you have created. And so I just want you to think
- 11:53about how you can go ahead and reassess that by doing a couple
- 11:56of things when it comes to how you choose one active lane,
- 12:01create a timing around it, and then review it before just going
- 12:05ahead. And all right, so if there's
- 12:07something that was like, Oh my gosh, I am definitely this
- 12:09person. I'm definitely the person that
- 12:11thinks I am flip flopping. I'm definitely the person who
- 12:13thinks I am. I said we can't make decisions.
- 12:15We make lots of decisions when it comes to private coaching.
- 12:18So a lot of my client clients are trying to make decisions
- 12:20when it comes to going ahead and building a business while they
- 12:24are in their nine to five. Thinking about making decisions
- 12:27when it comes to going into their business full time and
- 12:29leaving their 9:00 to 5:00. Making decisions when it comes
- 12:32to getting a promotion internally, getting a new job,
- 12:35externally, changing careers, So many different ways that they're
- 12:39making really big decisions. And these are women who have
- 12:42made decisions their entire lives for themselves.
- 12:44They're more than willing and capable, but these are big ones
- 12:47that they are making now. And you have just taken on like
- 12:50so much of the mental load that you have been playing out in
- 12:53your mind of your day-to-day from what's on your To Do List,
- 12:56from what you're doing at work, that you just need a clear space
- 12:59to have support with this. So much so that you want to make
- 13:02sure you're having true self trust in yourself and your
- 13:04decision making skills. And you don't want to feel like
- 13:07flip flopper. You don't want to feel
- 13:08indecisive. You want to feel really
- 13:10confident about what it is that you're going towards and having
- 13:12a plan. So if you were somebody who is
- 13:14looking to within the next few months to make a big change and
- 13:18you've been sitting and renegotiating this decision with
- 13:22yourself over and over again. I would say I invite you to go
- 13:26to my website at dannytan.com, DANITA n.com and you can go to
- 13:32the contact tab and book a call with me and we can talk about
- 13:35what you're looking to decide this year and what needs a plan
- 13:39and some structure. I can give you a coaching plan
- 13:41and let you know what it's like to work together and then we can
- 13:43talk about what that's like working together is for three
- 13:46months and we meet bi weekly and then you have Slack voice note,
- 13:49text and document review for those three months.
- 13:52I'll via through a Slack messaging and yeah, we always
- 13:56have action items. It's always very strategic.
- 13:58I'm all about giving you takeaways and giving you
- 14:00frameworks and tools to use. And I want you to feel really,
- 14:03really confident about these big decisions that you're making
- 14:05changes that you want to make and not to be sitting circling
- 14:08on the same stuff over and over again because we don't have time
- 14:10for that. And it is truly my mission to
- 14:13help as many women as possible, especially when of color, when
- 14:16it comes to achieving what it is they want to achieve, especially
- 14:18when the systems are not set up and built for us.
- 14:20And so anything I can do to kind of make that happen is what I'm
- 14:23going to do. All right.
- 14:24So I hope hopefully you found this helpful and I will talk to
- 14:27you soon.