Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Sophia G. Holder, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
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- 0:02The most important health care decisions don't happen
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- 0:08Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings together more than
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- 0:22real. Leaders will share how their scenario planning
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- 0:27barriers, and building clinical teams that translate
- 0:46This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:48podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:50Sofia Holder, executive vice president and chief financial
- 0:53officer of CHOP Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
- 0:56Sofia, it's a pleasure to have you on
- 0:58the podcast today.
- 0:59Good morning. It's a pleasure. Thank you.
- 1:03Now I'm excited for our conversation because I
- 1:05know there's so much happening in health care,
- 1:06and especially looking at some of the different
- 1:09financial pressures hospitals have been going through in
- 1:11the last couple of years and, you know,
- 1:13looking at what could be ahead as well.
- 1:14I think you are sitting in such a
- 1:16unique position,
- 1:17to be meeting some of these challenges with
- 1:19very creative solutions, and so I'm excited to
- 1:22get your perspective on some of the things
- 1:24you've been doing at CHAP, as well as
- 1:25how you're thinking about the future. But before
- 1:27we dive in,
- 1:29can you tell us a little bit more
- 1:30about yourself and CHOP?
- 1:32Yes. I'll be happy to.
- 1:35I I could spend all day talking about
- 1:37CHOP.
- 1:37We are an amazing organization. I am coming
- 1:40up on
- 1:42five years at,
- 1:43this institution.
- 1:45And what many may not know
- 1:47about CHOP is that we were founded
- 1:50in 1855.
- 1:52So we have a rich history,
- 1:54and we were the first hospital
- 1:57in the nation dedicated
- 1:59exclusively
- 2:00to the care of children. And so we
- 2:03we feel strongly that we set the standard
- 2:05for pediatric health care, delivery,
- 2:08even today.
- 2:10We are
- 2:11now one of the largest
- 2:14organizations
- 2:15that are addressing comprehensively
- 2:18pediatric care delivery.
- 2:20We we provide care across the full spectrum,
- 2:24as you might imagine, of care. So inpatient,
- 2:27outpatient specialty services, we care for children
- 2:30from all 50 states and around the world.
- 2:34And
- 2:35what what I feel really proud about with
- 2:37respect to CHOP is that we
- 2:39are really committed and grounded
- 2:41in our mission.
- 2:43We are committed to research and discoveries and
- 2:46innovating
- 2:47truly on care for children,
- 2:51and really translate in
- 2:53breakthrough science into better outcomes.
- 2:56Right? And so what really differentiates
- 2:59CHOP
- 3:00is
- 3:02that really wonderful
- 3:05integration
- 3:06of world class clinical care,
- 3:09leading edge research,
- 3:12and
- 3:13an unwavering
- 3:14focus on children and families. We believe
- 3:17that that helps us to
- 3:20shape the future of health care
- 3:23pediatric delivery
- 3:25while being grounded
- 3:26in our founding mission.
- 3:31I love that, especially
- 3:33the real clear focus on the patients and
- 3:35their families and being able to
- 3:37provide the best care possible as well as
- 3:39having that research discovery innovation,
- 3:42that pushes that mission forward.
- 3:44Now from your perspective, could you tell me
- 3:46a little bit more about an initiative you
- 3:48led in the last year or so? What
- 3:50did you do, and what were the results?
- 3:53Thank you. Yeah. I I would say,
- 3:58I I tend not to think
- 4:00about the the most important work as something
- 4:03I led personally,
- 4:05but but really as the work that we
- 4:08enabled
- 4:09within our organization
- 4:10together.
- 4:12And over the last year, the that work
- 4:15was about restoring
- 4:17financial
- 4:19strength
- 4:20in a way that positions us for the
- 4:23future
- 4:24of pediatric health care.
- 4:27We focused
- 4:28on
- 4:30building discipline
- 4:32into how we plan,
- 4:34how we invest,
- 4:36and make decisions so that CHOP can adapt.
- 4:40We are in an increasingly
- 4:43complex health care landscape.
- 4:46How we innovate
- 4:48and how we grow in a sustainable way.
- 4:51And so this meant for us in having
- 4:53more honest
- 4:55conversations,
- 4:57making clearer choices, really tune in our prioritization
- 5:00framework,
- 5:02and aligning our resources
- 5:05with what matters most
- 5:07for children and their families.
- 5:09And so the result was not only
- 5:12improved financial performance, which,
- 5:15I was really grateful for as the CFO,
- 5:17but stronger
- 5:19organizational
- 5:20alignment
- 5:21and a clear connection between
- 5:24the financial decisions
- 5:25and patient impact, which is why we are
- 5:28all here every day.
- 5:30And and so we recognize that our work
- 5:32is not done and that we are
- 5:35on a journey.
- 5:38That makes a lot of sense. And I
- 5:40I think, you know, I really appreciate the
- 5:42way you talk about thinking about the future
- 5:44in investing, planning, and adapting no matter what
- 5:46happens because I know there's been so many
- 5:48changes within the health care space in the
- 5:50last five years and then in the last
- 5:52six months even. So Yes. Having that type
- 5:55of, flexibility, I can imagine, is critical.
- 5:58Now looking ahead, what are some of your
- 6:00big priorities as well as headwinds you're focused
- 6:03on for 2026?
- 6:06I I and I would say here the
- 6:08the priorities and headwinds are certainly closely connected.
- 6:13We are focused
- 6:14on
- 6:16sustaining
- 6:17financial performance
- 6:19in an environment
- 6:21of
- 6:22continued labor pressures,
- 6:26reimbursement dynamics,
- 6:28and ongoing volatility in volumes. And at the
- 6:31same time,
- 6:33we are prioritizing
- 6:36long
- 6:37term capability building. And and so what do
- 6:39I mean by that? Right? We are we
- 6:41are looking at our workforce
- 6:44optimization, where do we need to invest in
- 6:46our people or or
- 6:47most important asset.
- 6:49We we're looking at revenue cycle resilience.
- 6:53We're looking at capital discipline. Right? We are
- 6:56continuing looking at how we prioritize
- 6:58the the sort of rich needs around capital
- 7:01at this time
- 7:03and how we
- 7:04increasingly,
- 7:06and and in a responsible way, deploy automation
- 7:10and AI
- 7:11to reduce
- 7:13administrative burden,
- 7:15improve
- 7:17data driven decision making,
- 7:19and support overall health care delivery.
- 7:22And so the challenge, not like not unlike
- 7:24many of our peers likely, is balancing
- 7:27near term performance
- 7:30with these longer term
- 7:32investments
- 7:34so that
- 7:35we do not do not compromise
- 7:38access,
- 7:40do not compromise
- 7:41growth in our longer strategic objectives,
- 7:46or we do not
- 7:48compromise innovation
- 7:50for children and families.
- 7:55That's helpful to understand. I I think looking
- 7:58at the workforce and workforce optimization,
- 8:00I can imagine
- 8:01so much goes into that,
- 8:04between the, you know, human workforce and the
- 8:06technology that comes into play and then figuring
- 8:09out how you can continue to be innovative,
- 8:12despite some of the financial challenges and risks
- 8:14you mentioned as well. So I I I
- 8:16know that's a huge puzzle and a lot
- 8:18to figure out, but what do you think
- 8:20the hardest thing you'll have to do in
- 8:21the coming year will be?
- 8:25How long do you have?
- 8:28I think, really, our our hardest work ahead
- 8:31is,
- 8:32continuing to make
- 8:34disciplined,
- 8:36and really
- 8:37sometimes uncomfortable decisions
- 8:39while staying grounded and anchored in our mission.
- 8:43And that includes
- 8:45likely saying no to investments
- 8:47that
- 8:48do not clearly advance
- 8:51access,
- 8:52quality,
- 8:54and sustainability,
- 8:56and pushing ourselves to
- 8:59rethink
- 9:00legacy structures and our ways of working.
- 9:04And in pediatrics especially,
- 9:07every decision carries
- 9:10emotional weight.
- 9:11And so the challenge
- 9:14is leading with
- 9:16transparency
- 9:18and courage
- 9:21while keeping the organization aligned around
- 9:24what it truly takes to remain strong
- 9:27for the long term.
- 9:33I hear that, you know, looking at some
- 9:36of those decisions and being disciplined is not
- 9:38always easy, but having that courage to lead
- 9:40and know what you're doing in the right
- 9:42direction,
- 9:43really will lead to that sustainability that you
- 9:46were talking about earlier in our conversation too.
- 9:48And, you know, I wanted to ask not
- 9:50only about the hard things, but also about,
- 9:53you know, how you're thinking about growth in
- 9:54the future too. What are some of the
- 9:56big opportunities that you're looking at, and how
- 9:58do you see CHOP continuing to grow and
- 10:01flourish as we go on?
- 10:04And I would tell you, CHOP is amazing.
- 10:07Like, we have
- 10:09a a a strong growth mindset,
- 10:12and our best
- 10:14growth opportunities really sit at the intersection
- 10:18of mission and discipline.
- 10:21And that includes, for us, at spending access
- 10:24through
- 10:26ambulatory
- 10:27and virtual models,
- 10:30strengthening partnerships
- 10:31regionally,
- 10:32nationally, and internationally, quite frankly,
- 10:36and skill and services where
- 10:39pediatric expertise
- 10:42truly differentiates
- 10:43outcomes
- 10:44for patients.
- 10:46And, internally, growth also means for us
- 10:50raising and growing our capabilities.
- 10:52So we are focused on developing leaders.
- 10:56We are focused on modernizing
- 10:58our operating models.
- 11:00And
- 11:01as the CFO, we are also focused on
- 11:04embedding
- 11:05this notion of financial stewardship
- 11:08into everyday
- 11:10decision making.
- 11:11Right? It's not sort of a one off.
- 11:13It's ingrained
- 11:14into our culture.
- 11:16And so when we do that well,
- 11:19growth becomes
- 11:21sustainable,
- 11:23not just bigger. Right? Not just bigger, but
- 11:26stronger.
- 11:27And so this is an exciting time
- 11:30for us at CHOP, ripe with opportunities despite,
- 11:35sort of the the changes
- 11:37that are surrounding
- 11:39the entire health care landscape.
- 11:44Absolutely. I love that, Sofia. Thank you so
- 11:46much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 11:48This has been such a fun and inspiring
- 11:51and
- 11:52I look forward to, continuing it at our
- 11:54annual meeting. I know you'll be speaking with
- 11:56us in April, and, it'll be fantastic to
- 11:59hear a little bit more, go a bit
- 12:00deeper into some of the things you're doing
- 12:02at CHAP, and then,
- 12:03be able to connect with other finance and
- 12:05strategic leaders across the spectrum,
- 12:08to really, you know, figure out how we
- 12:09can tackle some of these big challenges that
- 12:11we've been discussing today in a strategic and
- 12:14meaningful way. So looking forward to that and
- 12:16seeing you then.
- 12:17Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to
- 12:19join you on the podcast, and I'm really
- 12:21looking forward to the April meeting where I
- 12:24can not just network, but learn and grow
- 12:27with my colleagues, across, the country.