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Infinite cLOUDs · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
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  Speaker 1: j Cole drops a new single and the internet is
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  Speaker 1: already talking. My thoughts on a new album from Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Wesson, produced by Ninth Wonder Infinity and My reaction
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  Speaker 1: to Hip Hop DX is ranking of Alchemist's collaborative albums.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I love a list. Nah I don't, but
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  Speaker 2: let's do it. Welcome to hip Hop Now podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: To do from the future, you know what to do
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  Speaker 2: Escat rating to the business. What up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: special episodes, or the shorts that I frequently post.
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  Speaker 2: And for those who you.
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  Speaker 1: Know aren't aware, essentially I do the same thing on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram as far as the shorts, you know, I see
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  Speaker 1: dope hip hop content or funny hip hop content. I reshare,
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  Speaker 1: I don't crop out somebody's name who created the original.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just say this right, just real quick,
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  Speaker 1: because content creators can be crazy. They could be obnoxious.
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  Speaker 1: They think they are the same as they see in
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  Speaker 1: here in media.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you are. Some of you're not.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody getting upset because they posted let's just say, a
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  Speaker 1: hip hop video from the past and they tagged it
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  Speaker 1: with their tag. You are not the sole proprietor of
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  Speaker 1: that content. You didn't shoot that video, you don't own
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  Speaker 1: the rights to that video. You did what I could do.
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  Speaker 1: We all can go to vvo whatever it is and
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  Speaker 1: pick a classic album and type some words over it.
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  Speaker 1: Like remember this y'all and put my tag on it.
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  Speaker 1: It does not belong to me. So my way of
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  Speaker 1: sharing the content wealth is I don't crop out nobody's
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  Speaker 1: you know, imprints or anything like that. Because I saw
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  Speaker 1: it on their page, I thought it was dope. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like I should share it with others now when
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  Speaker 1: I create my original content. Okay, now we're talking. So
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  Speaker 1: that was that. But for those who are keeping score
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  Speaker 1: here on Hip Hop Now podcasts for years now, because
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is my ninth year of doing this podcast, right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't do interview And there's a big reason why
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  Speaker 1: I don't do interviews, because everybody does interviews, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see a point for you to see me interview
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  Speaker 1: somebody who you've already watched on matth Hoffa's podcast, on
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  Speaker 1: Drink Champs, on somebody else's podcast, like it's a chase,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of times the conversations are exactly the same.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, my questions could be.
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  Speaker 1: Different, making for a better and a different maybe not better,
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  Speaker 1: but just a different interview. But I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: play that game. Some people are getting paid for interviews,
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  Speaker 1: more power to you. I ain't got the money for you, fam.
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  Speaker 1: But what I do have is a special set of
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  Speaker 1: skills that I've acquired as a Morgan State University alumni
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  Speaker 1: who has been doing radio since I was still in
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  Speaker 1: class on the FM dow not the student stage. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: So I am looking and I tested it last year
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  Speaker 1: and I think was it last year? I guess, so
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  Speaker 1: I think that was last year or early this year,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was. No, it was early last year because
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  Speaker 1: it was it was around because Kendrick dropped and it
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  Speaker 1: was like conversation went elsewhere. But I tested those grounds
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  Speaker 1: of interviewing with my interview with the writer Marcus J. Moore,
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  Speaker 1: who wrote the book about day La Soul, and then
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  Speaker 1: day Soul was like, Yo, don't buy that book, and
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  Speaker 1: then everybody kind of jumped on Daylat Soul like, well
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  Speaker 1: you never read the book, blah blah blah, and then
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  Speaker 1: Kendrick dropped it in the White cat right. But for
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  Speaker 1: this channel, it did pretty well as far as an episode,
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  Speaker 1: I thought we got a lot of dope insight into
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  Speaker 1: the book, into the author, and just in general talking
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  Speaker 1: about hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to.
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  Speaker 1: Continue to do interviews, but they will be very specific
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  Speaker 1: interviews that I feel like I can get a lot
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  Speaker 1: out of the interview. We right, and what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by that, and we're gonna get into the stories. But
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  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is I want these interviews
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  Speaker 1: and the people I choose to be super interesting.
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  Speaker 2: To my audience. Right, excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm interviewing an author Dai La Soul never
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  Speaker 1: had a book up until this point, right, and you
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  Speaker 1: saw everything that happened to me, that's an interesting conversation
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  Speaker 1: to have about hip hop, about a group we love.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to artists, right, everybody drops music all
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  Speaker 1: the time, even I drop music, But everybody drops music.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has an album, everybody has an EP, everybody has
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  Speaker 1: multiple projects.
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  Speaker 2: Dropping It doesn't mean any of it's bad.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean me choosing that guy over this guy
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  Speaker 1: is how it's going. No, It's about the rising of
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  Speaker 1: the individual as a musician or artist or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they will be a very potent conversation
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  Speaker 1: to be had with that individual. So I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do a ton of interviews, but over the course of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Five, let's just say maybe I do five in.
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  Speaker 1: Total, they will be interviews that makes sense Regarding the
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  Speaker 1: timing and the music, and then they may be interviews
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  Speaker 1: for other reasons, right, films, whatever it may be. So
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  Speaker 1: stay tuned to the channel on audio forms subscribed obviously.
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  Speaker 2: And definitely here on YouTube if you want to check
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  Speaker 2: that out.
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  Speaker 1: Big shout out to hip hopdx dot com, where I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably getting most of these stories from. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: it is this week. Let's get right to the business, though.
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  Speaker 1: Say J Cole just dropped a brand new single called Clouds.
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  Speaker 1: For those who aren't watching this on YouTube, the C
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  Speaker 1: in the word cloud is small and s.
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  Speaker 2: At the end clouds.
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  Speaker 1: It's small lowercase also, but loud is all uppercase, which
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  Speaker 1: is pretty dope to look at. He basically reflects on
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things. But quite honestly, this is the
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  Speaker 1: J Cole subject matter I want. Hip Hop DX really
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  Speaker 1: summarized it, you know, they said J Cole reflects on
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  Speaker 1: AI agent and Trump assassination temp even though that was
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  Speaker 1: just like a bar.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he said too much about it unless
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  Speaker 2: I missed it.
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  Speaker 1: The track itself, my opinion, having listened to it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times right now, and it permitted on his
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  Speaker 1: blog that he has now I believe it's called algorithm.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get it out the way I like it.
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  Speaker 1: J Coole rapping has never been up for debate. He's
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  Speaker 1: never been waged to me. Ever, Duck in the Battle
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  Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way because of how he used
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  Speaker 1: to talk prior to the battle, right throwing subs I'm
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  Speaker 1: top five and number three, I'm the one, I'm the greatest,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the goat, all this different talk. And when confronted
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  Speaker 1: with a battle that you were kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: part of right.
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  Speaker 2: Because you weren't innocent.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't all Aubrey right, first person shooting and other things.
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  Speaker 1: So and then you put out a a dis record
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  Speaker 1: that was Luke for somebody who is dope as he is,
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  Speaker 1: And so he bowed out the battle. Then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not that long ago, he came back with a song
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  Speaker 1: that was essentially apologizing to Drake and Kendrick in some regards,
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  Speaker 1: and it just rubbed people the wrong way, brought the
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  Speaker 1: apology back up, and people started jumping on it. Now
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  Speaker 1: with clouds, he's just rapping about other things that are
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  Speaker 1: happening around us, happening to him, reflections and I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Is it the first single from the fall Off that
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  Speaker 1: would make you hype for the album. No, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just something to put out their tests to say
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  Speaker 1: is it safe to come outside.
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  Speaker 2: Kendrick in the house yet?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's but to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's about timing, right, same thing with Drake.
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  Speaker 2: He dropped that album with what's his name? Party next Door.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was called Playboy Carti before My Bad,
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  Speaker 1: but Party next Door after the super Bowl, right, So
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  Speaker 1: the conversation was and it was on Valentine's Day, like,
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  Speaker 1: so the conversation was more about whether that album was
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  Speaker 1: good or not.
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  Speaker 2: Most people don't.
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  Speaker 1: Like it, but at least at least it doesn't bring
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  Speaker 1: the battle back to square one, like when he was
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  Speaker 1: taking all these direct shots, right, stop talking about Kendrick,
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  Speaker 1: stopped talking about the battle. So with J Cole, that's
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing here. He's focusing on other things. There's
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  Speaker 1: so many other things that he could focus on that
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  Speaker 1: he has the knowledge, right, the awareness, and more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: the lyrical skill to do it in a very dope way.
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  Speaker 1: So I like this song Klaud's by J Cole. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what the Falloff is as an hour. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I have high expectations for it because I think it'll
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  Speaker 1: be dope. He's the kind of artist I like to
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  Speaker 1: listen to because he's a thought for artist. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: just say things to say things. This is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like where he is, and some of it is relatable
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  Speaker 1: for me. Now the Internet, on the other hand, and
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  Speaker 1: their reaction to it. Speaking to Jake Cole stands, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a fan, and I know everybody says that about themselves.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm not a stand I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 1: Some of your actions speak louder than your words, man, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: got to back them up. And I feel like some
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  Speaker 1: stands because Jake Cole is choosing not to in this instance,
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  Speaker 1: to even mention that battle, to even mention Kendrick.
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  Speaker 2: Doing whatever they're trying to bring up the battle.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I saw a tweet where a dude and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have it, so I'm not quoting him, but this
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  Speaker 1: is essentially what he said. I think that battle would
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  Speaker 1: have turned out very differently had j Cole engaged Kendrick
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  Speaker 1: engaged Kendrick. And this is where I'm tired of, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just tired of y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it was fun, not like us was fun.
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  Speaker 1: But the Super Bowl was like game over, like most
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  Speaker 1: of us were already done.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, if you want.
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  Speaker 1: A continuation of what Kendrick did to Aubrey and that
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, just go to the tour, okay. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as the conversation in twenty twenty five, that was
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  Speaker 1: last year though, And to say like that tweet said,
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  Speaker 1: to say like.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, I think he said something like Kendrick
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  Speaker 2: was spared.
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  Speaker 1: It seems so stupid because you're really trying to rewrite
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  Speaker 1: history as quick as possible as if we weren't all there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just state one last time, for j Cole's sake,
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  Speaker 2: what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Jaco put out a disc record responding to Kendrick's verse
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  Speaker 1: on like that called seven Minute Drill. I think that
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  Speaker 1: was the name of it, and most people thought it
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  Speaker 1: was mid, especially because he was saying things about Kendrick's
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  Speaker 1: music that most people disagree about right now. They don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, there are a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: don't even like Kendrick let alone. You know, they don't
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  Speaker 1: like anything beyond good kid mass City or it's good
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  Speaker 1: kid Man City. And damn right, who thought missed them
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  Speaker 1: around the big Steppers wasn't good?
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  Speaker 2: Like it's all hype.
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  Speaker 1: And when J Cole caught win that everybody wasn't like,
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  Speaker 1: Oh old crazy Kendrick got problems. Then you see him
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  Speaker 1: apologizing on stage, and not only that, he pulls the
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  Speaker 1: record from his mixtape. Might delete later. Now we all
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  Speaker 1: heard it, it happened. You might as well have left
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  Speaker 1: it there. But I get it. You know, he said
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  Speaker 1: he didn't want to go at his brother. So my
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  Speaker 1: thing is, you can't say what a guy would have
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  Speaker 1: done when he ran from the fight. If he ain't run,
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  Speaker 1: he would have did the work. No, he wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 1: do anything. He ain't want no work. Okay, so let's
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  Speaker 1: stop trying to rewrite history. It's okay to enjoy and
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  Speaker 1: like the song and the fact that you feel like
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  Speaker 1: J Cole is back on track to where he was
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  Speaker 1: prior to the battle. There's nothing wrong with that. But
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  Speaker 1: let's not start going back and saying that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: It did. Were in a different time now.
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  Speaker 1: Man, the minute you say that, I'm not even gonna
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  Speaker 1: ar y'all just send you a link of him apologizing,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a ticket on the chin.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, whatever you got, man, go take your best shot.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't want to use a brother. You know
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  Speaker 1: I would have lost the backup. But shut up rap
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  Speaker 1: about this. So those who you know are mad at
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  Speaker 1: J Cole, but you shouldn't be mad at but whatever,
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  Speaker 1: now's your time to step back into the J.
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  Speaker 2: Cole arena.
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  Speaker 1: This is a dope record. The bars are dope. I
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  Speaker 1: like everything he's saying. It's it makes me want that album.
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  Speaker 1: So there you had that. Speaking of albums recently, very
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  Speaker 1: recent as in Right Now, Smith and Wesson legendary Brooklyn
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  Speaker 1: hip hop group duo Smith and Wesson who debuted It
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  Speaker 1: Who with a classic album in the nineties called The
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  Speaker 1: Shining Check it out if you haven't have a brand
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  Speaker 1: new album entitled Infinity and produced by Ninth Wonder and
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  Speaker 1: The Soul Council. This album comes in at fourteen songs.
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  Speaker 1: The length is forty six minutes and thirty four seconds.
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  Speaker 2: My kind of album. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Make it short and sweet, please pous or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: features a number of people right like mouth Tresident is
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  Speaker 1: on here, Prodigy, Pharaoh Munch, Conway, the Machine Sean Price,
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  Speaker 1: Buckshot this it's some features on this joint, you know, Recipe,
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  Speaker 1: Prodigy and Sean Price. And here's my verdict, right, always
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  Speaker 1: gotta do this for new people because if you're new, welcome,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know this. So I'm gonna just let you know.
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  Speaker 1: This is the qualifier for my opinion of this review
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  Speaker 1: of this album Infinity Smiff and Wesson formerly known as
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  Speaker 1: the Cocho Brothers, formerly known as Smith and Wesson, Act whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But I give you three listens typically when I'm in
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  Speaker 1: the gym working out. The first listen is just to
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  Speaker 1: my impressions, my first impressions of the album. The second
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  Speaker 1: listen is now to digging deep and can you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of listen to the lyrics more intently, listen to
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  Speaker 1: what's happening with the production and how everything comes together,
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  Speaker 1: the features, all of that good stuff. And my third
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  Speaker 1: listen is just to confirm my thoughts. And for the
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  Speaker 1: quick reviewers, here you go. If you are a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the Shining and every Smith and Wesson album since
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  Speaker 1: including Coco Brothers has been a let down, you won't
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  Speaker 1: like this album. If you you are a person who
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  Speaker 1: has been with Smith and Wesson from day one, and
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  Speaker 1: you have a couple of albums in a catalog that
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  Speaker 1: you like, especially if you like their last album, the All,
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  Speaker 1: you'll like this album.
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  Speaker 2: Me speaking about me personally, I have a problem, right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm both fans, but I leaned heavier on the side
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  Speaker 1: of the first fan I mentioned, which is The Shining
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  Speaker 1: was so impactful for my life as far as hip
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  Speaker 1: hop and especially jazzy sounding samples and that kind of
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  Speaker 1: ambiance during that age, the Philly blunt age of New
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  Speaker 1: York style rap or whatever. It has been extremely difficult
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  Speaker 1: throughout the years for me to really like a Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Wesson album that doesn't feel like that one The
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  Speaker 1: Shining was, So I put it this way. The way
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  Speaker 1: I feel about The Shining and Smith and Wesson going
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  Speaker 1: forward is how some people feel about Illmatic and Nod's
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  Speaker 1: going forward. There's some people who wanted Illmatic every time, right,
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  Speaker 1: which is unrealistic people grow. I'm like that with Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Wesson. I wanted that sound to return. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: mind that they went, you know, and got different production
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  Speaker 1: and tried different things, because I always felt like there's
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  Speaker 1: no way that they're not still those dudes that I remember, and.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout the years, I've had to accept that they.
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  Speaker 1: Are grown men who have grown and became a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different from that time. You know, who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they were like yo, I was blunted all the time
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  Speaker 1: when when we did the Shining. Now I'm a little
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  Speaker 1: bit I still smoke, but I'm a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: clear with it. I feel like this album is the
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  Speaker 1: all too right. If you like their album and I
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  Speaker 1: believe ninth one that did that one also, but or
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  Speaker 1: he done a number of tracks on him. But if
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  Speaker 1: you heard that album All which was I believe that
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  Speaker 1: year released, I had it as one of the best
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  Speaker 1: of the year. It's a different Smith and Wesson lyrically
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  Speaker 1: musically on this particular album, Infinity. The production is hit
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  Speaker 1: or miss with me. And it's not when I say
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  Speaker 1: hit a miss, I don't mean that tracks do that
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  Speaker 1: track's garbage or that track's mid. I mean I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Smith and Wesson like AZ can rap over everything
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  Speaker 1: or put it this way. They could rap over anything,
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  Speaker 1: but do they sound good over everything? And I feel
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like they have a specific SI style that's sounds better
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: over different beats, like for example. And this might just
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: be my taste in music, but the song Just Stayed
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: featuring Conway the Machine that kind of production works to me,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Elephant in the Room that feels like the Shan and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Smith and Wesson to me, a song called Infinity and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Moses Prompt Moses's Promise, like Medina featuring Pharaoh manch Like.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: These songs feel like Smith and Wesson but upgraded. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think what really drags the album down. And again,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: for some people, this might be what's all you want
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to hear nowadays?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Right, you don't want to hear you don't want to.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Get shot at by listening to Griselda, and you want
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to hear Coke Raps. I get it. But when did
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Smith and Wesson just kind of become like inspirational speakers?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Because I swear the last maybe three projects and there's
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this, Trust me when I say there's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this, But it's.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Not how I was introduced to the group.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And sure, they were much younger, and you know, talking
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: about some of those things. You know, maybe they've moved
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: on from that. Sure, but in some cases on this album, no,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they say some of the same things, right, it's just different.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But I just don't identify that with this group. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like musically it's so good that I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: can accept that. Ah, they're just different now. And I've
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: heard a number of albums where, especially to All, where
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they were kind of on that like yo, we're older
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and went Peace and Church and like Imminence, and I'm
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: with it. But it's just something about what Smith and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Weston represents when you hear their names. So I said
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: all that to say I still think so far in
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five it is one of the better albums
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: because it's not a bad album at all. But I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: think if you are like me and you know, you
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: don't expect them to be the Shining which was their debut,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Like what was that thirty years ago or whatever, that's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: part for the course for anybody, right. Prince in his
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: later years he wasn't making albums he was making he
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was younger, not at all lyrically, musically, none of that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But that's the reason why most fans from those times
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: didn't really check for some of that stuff. Same thing
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: with Stevie Wonder. We know Stevie Wonder is to go,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: but that's because we keep spending the same albums from
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the seventies.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Stevie's released way more than that, you know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: After the seventies, but there was a change lyrically musically
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he could still sing. But that's how I feel with
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Smith and Wesson. They could still rap still Smith and Wesson.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You put them under the right beat, they still go off,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: but there's always something left that I'm not I don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: leave fulfilled. Basically, as a Smith and Wesson fan, one
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: thing I might do is like go back down the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole Smith and Wesson albums, because there's some albums
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that I heard, like maybe in the two thousands that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't remember. I would do a tail list,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but I don't know how many people care about Smith
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and Wesson today to even bother to watch that, But
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting because again, they released
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a number of albums, and honestly, I don't feel comfortable
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: calling a catalog mid or whack except for the one
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: album because I don't remember but most of it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But I know what they have now is.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Good enough for newcomers to Smith and Weston's catalog, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: for old heads like me who kind of want that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: beat minors jazzy influenced Smith, Smith and Wesson's situation. They
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: could even still almost talk about some of the same stuff.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think these newer albums are it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Con Way the Machine definitely has a standout verse on
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in him and honestly Sean Price and Barrel manch But
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: there you have it. What do you think about Smith
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and Wesson's brand new album Infinity, produced by Ninth Wonder
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and the Soul Council, So they got a true enough
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: production team behind them. Do you feel the way I feel?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Or has Smith and Wesson done this so much?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Well, this is more of their identity than what I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: remember from the Shining Leave your comments in a comments
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: section below. And lastly, so hip Hop DX did basically
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a top ten list of the Alchemists ten best collaborative
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: albums ranked. Now, some of you don't even know like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: collaborative out But I thought he was just a producer. Yes,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: but he's been doing for years. He's been doing other
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: stuff and he's made a name for himself. Really when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you talk about not just what he did with Mob
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Deep in the late nineties, mid to late nineties or whatever,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but what he was able to do during the blog era,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because that's when Alchemists really came up, Like during the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: blog era, the mix, that mixtape eerr.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So there's a history there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So we're just gonna look at what they have in
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the top ten and I'm gonna react. Now some albums
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: maybe I've never heard them or I forgot, but we're
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. At number ten, they have no idols.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: With Domo Genesis, I do remember this, and I remember
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: this was from twenty twenty, twenty twelve.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I remember this joint and it was cool.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm not the biggest fan of Demo Genesis, so
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe you liked it. Ran Chandeliers at
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: number nine with Action Bronson twenty twelve. This is when
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I refused to listen to Action Bronson because I was like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he is diet ghost Face. Later on I got into him.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So with this project, I heard it, but I was distracted.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. At number
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: eight Fetti with Freddie Gibbs in Currency twenty eighteen. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: didn't even know a lot of people like this because
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: when it came out, it felt like most fans of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Currency and Freddie Gibbs and Alchemists felt like it was mad.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It was okay, but when you think about that combination,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it should have been better, but apparently more people liked
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it than I thought. But that's not a bad pick.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I would definitely keep that in ma Voyd Dyer, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: believe that's how you pronounce it. With Earl Sweatshirt in
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Yeah, I heard this. I adn't really
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: care for it that much, and it didn't have much
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to do with Alchemist Beats as much as it had
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to do with his beat and Earl Sweatshirt.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It was the.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Most disinterested Ramen and beat Megan I've ever heard. But
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: some people love it because they love Earl Sweatshirt, so
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't manage you. Number six The Greatest Scape with
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Larry June twenty twenty three. This isn't the Larry June project.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I Like, I'm not a big fan of Larry June,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: but when I heard this, I was like, everything about this,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: from the album cover to some of the beats I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: heard on here should be something that I love and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I probably played it death, but it just wasn't.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It wasn't. It wasn't doing it for me. I'm sorry.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Larry June is in a quiet taste. Just know that,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: don't just why you ain't like that the dog? How
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: am I going to be interested if he sounds this interesting?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So that was that number five. We're getting into the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: top five now Return of the Mac with Prodigy two
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven. I agree with this, but there's another
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: project that I think either should have replaced this or
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: at least been on this list with it. If they
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: were keeping it down to one per collaborator, then I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: get it. Return of the Mac was dope, But I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: think Albert Einstein been number four. The Prince of the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Price of Tea in China with Body James twenty twenty.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Nah'd be I get it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: This disinterested style of rapping is in for the underground
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: hands right, earl sweatshirt, Larry June, Body James, and they'll
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: try one. Dude's like, I like the slick talk, but
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not hearing sleck bars like that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing like you can quote a bar from them.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: But most of the time it's like all picked up
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: my hat where I'm going, I'm put my hat back down?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Where you going? Like dog, that's not bars. Just say
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you like his flow and you like these beats. It's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: a mood, it's a vibe. I get that part of it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I get that part of it. I'm not gonna deny
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you on that, but don't convince me that they rap
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and rapping they bar No, sorry, but a lot of
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: people like that joints, so it doesn't matter if I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: liked it. The Elephant Man's Bones with Rock Marciano in
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Man, I swear I'm not hating on this,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: lest y'all know. I'm not the biggest Rock Marcie fan.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I like what I like from him, don't get me wrong.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And unlike the other people I mentioned, he does have
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: bars occasionally. He will have bars, more so in his
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: early days than now. And when I heard this project,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I was trying my best to like, I might listen
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to this joint like ten times, just trying to like, Yo,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: what if let me just vibe out this hit press play.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Nah, this wasn't it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And I like the production definitely on this one, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that great to me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But it's considered to be one of the better.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Projects from Rock Marcye and Alchemists, So not mad at
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: it being the three number two covert coup with Currency
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Now we talk production wise, Alchemist was in his bag,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and Currency tends to kind of be in that same lane. Right.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Everything with him is being high, but at least he's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: saying it okay, So he's not this interested. He's just high, right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And I felt like Currency was spitting. That's why they
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: call him spitting. I felt like he was spitting. His
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: energy was different. For most Currency projects, they don't typically
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: sound like this, right, but this is the bag he
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: can get in, and this is definitely top three, so
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree. Now, let's see what number one is.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Well I should have known now. Number one is Alfredo
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: with Freddy Gibbs twenty twenty. When I first heard this project,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Because of the beats. Freddie Gibbs don't.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Miss when it comes to the rhymeenh but the beats,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: everything was so low key. It was like the Bodie
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: James and Larry Junes. It was like really and the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Earl sweatshirts. It was really draft. But then over time,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the more I listened to it, especially after that year,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, man, I mean, Freddy Gibbs doesn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: have to stay in the same pocket in order for
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: me to like this project, you know, what I'm saying.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I felt like Alchemists was pairing them with beats that
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: could have been better because my expectations were for something
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: better than what we got. But then the more I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: listen to it, yeah, I would agree. So I wouldn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: make this number one on this list. I would keep
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: as far as the top five. I would keep the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: joint with Currency for sure. I would add number three.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I think the Rock Marcies joint. I would take it out.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could stay in the top ten, but
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I would take it out. Maybe that's where I would
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: add a Prodigy and Albert Einstein joint.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I believe Alchemist did all the beats on there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Body James, yup, you're definitely coming out.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I honestly liked the Larry June project that I didn't
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: care for that much more than this. I'd be more
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: willing to bring that into the top five, and then
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the return of the Mac or Prodigy.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Still though, let me just see if there was something
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: else on the list that I would move up.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I think I would move up Fetti to the top five,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: which just shows like my favorite collaborators with Alchemists are Prodigy,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Freddie Gibbs and currency.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Right, So there you have it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: What would you have in your top ten collaborative albums
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: by alchemists? Does it include any of these artists which
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you shuffle the listen around? Is there some project that's missing?
• 36:06
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• 36:08
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• 36:11
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• 36:14
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