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Did October 7th Trigger The Collapse of the Western Order? | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to another episode of the Silk and
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Speaker 1: Steel podcast. I'm your host, Carl Zak. Today we have
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Speaker 1: a very special guest on our show, Leith Maroff, the
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Speaker 1: founder of Free Palestine TV. Leith is based in Lebanon.
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Speaker 1: He's a commentator on geopolitics. And the reason why I
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Speaker 1: want to have Leith on the show is, you know,
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Speaker 1: so we can educate my audience about what's going on
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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. First of all, welcome to the.
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Speaker 2: Show, Lee. Great to be with you, Carl. Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for having me.
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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. So you are, as I understand, you
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Speaker 1: are bathing Beirut. So there's a lot of things happening
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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood at this point. Maybe you can just
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Speaker 1: give us, oh, and as you point out, this is
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Speaker 1: October 7th. We're doing our anniversary. So maybe you can
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Speaker 1: just lead us through what's going on right now in
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Speaker 1: your neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously today is the three-year anniversary of October 7th,
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Speaker 2: Al-Aqsa flood, which ushered in, of course, these three years
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Speaker 2: of war in Western Asia. In a way, October 7th
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Speaker 2: marks the beginnings of the end of the war century
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Speaker 2: of Arabic humiliation, if we want to borrow a term
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Speaker 2: from our brothers and sisters in China. And as we see,
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Speaker 2: October 7th has not only changed the realities in Western Asia,
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Speaker 2: but is changing the whole global dynamics and is revealing
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Speaker 2: to all of humanity the mechanisms of control, imperialist and
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Speaker 2: Zionist mechanisms of control from the little local to the
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Speaker 2: global extent of these things. And it shows, of course,
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Speaker 2: this event, how a small population that is besieged and
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Speaker 2: under genocidal actions for the last century can actually affect
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Speaker 2: global events and change the trajectory of humanity as a whole.
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Speaker 2: Similar to the uprising of the enslaved peoples in Haiti,
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Speaker 2: how it reverberated around the globe and changed the realities
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Speaker 2: of the slave trade, transatlantic slave trade. Yes, a lot
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Speaker 2: of that has happened since then and beyond just the
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Speaker 2: conduction of the genocide on the people in Gaza that
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Speaker 2: we all watched on social media. Countries have fallen, like Syria.
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Speaker 2: The Sykes-Picot borders are almost gone. There's a possibility of
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Speaker 2: all of the monarchies that the Western imperial powers installed
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Speaker 2: at the end of World War I and have survived
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Speaker 2: since then under the protection of the imperialists are at
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Speaker 2: the edge of their collapse. The whole petrodollar is almost non-existent.
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Speaker 2: So the ramifications of October 7th are very pronounced and
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Speaker 2: very clear in Western Asia, but are becoming even clearer
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Speaker 2: and clearer by the day across the globe. Look at
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Speaker 2: the economies of Europe and North America, how they are
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Speaker 2: tattering right now, and how much of the Western capitals
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Speaker 2: that led the colonial era right now finding themselves having
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Speaker 2: to reveal their viciousness fully again and return to those
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Speaker 2: ideals of genocide and looting of other people's resources as
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Speaker 2: the primary source of income for these states. As we
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Speaker 2: see what happened in Venezuela, the threats to Greenland, the
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Speaker 2: threats to Canada, the threats to African states that are,
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Speaker 2: and Latin American states and others that are asking for
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Speaker 2: their liberation. So, you know, I don't want to go further,
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Speaker 2: but I think this is a good introduction to the
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Speaker 2: epoch era that we are living in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for my audience, people have to remember
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Speaker 1: before October 7, that happened. United States was almost succeeded
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Speaker 1: with this extension of Abraham Accords plan, which is a
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Speaker 1: plan put together by Trump's son-in-law, Jerry Kushner. The idea
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Speaker 1: is to get all the Arab majority countries and Muslim
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Speaker 1: majority countries in the world to recognize Israel. They wanted
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Speaker 1: to expand from the Gulf states to Saudi Arabia, eventually Indonesia, Malaysia.
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Speaker 1: And that would mean the end of any hope for
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Speaker 1: Palestinian self-determination. But they were well on the way on
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Speaker 1: implementing that plan. But October 7th disrupted their plan decisively
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Speaker 1: because all these Arab monarchies, as much as they want to,
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Speaker 1: they can't right now. Their population would not stomach it.
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Speaker 1: And then, of course, it led to Israel and United
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Speaker 1: States to lash out Um, in a very, uh, in
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Speaker 1: a very blatant manner. I mean, Israel right now is
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Speaker 1: still in your country, uh, uh, uh, carrying out ethnic
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Speaker 1: cleansing in Southern Lebanon right now. Um, and, and Israel
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Speaker 1: also got Donald Trump to wage the illegal war on Iran,
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Speaker 1: which is now spreading to Yemen, um, and, and threatened
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Speaker 1: to rewrite the whole security architecture of the West Asia.
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Speaker 1: So where would you like to start, Leif?
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Speaker 2: Well, obviously, you are right. The imperialists were trying to
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Speaker 2: kind of end the Palestinian struggle and the existence of
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Speaker 2: the Palestinian people as a whole with their treaties, with
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Speaker 2: their vassals during those Abraham Accords era. It goes a
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Speaker 2: little bit even further because I know sometimes for people
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Speaker 2: that are from outside the region, they don't realize the
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Speaker 2: history of relationships that our people here and what we
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Speaker 2: call the Europeans mean. It's a relationship of 6,000 years
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Speaker 2: of invasion looting of our economies and our resources, but
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Speaker 2: also beyond that, the attempt to loot our culture and
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Speaker 2: to pretend to be the Semites. So we can think
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Speaker 2: about how the Canaanite pantheon of gods was looted by
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Speaker 2: the Greeks and then the Romans and Baal becomes Zeus
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Speaker 2: and becomes Apollo and all of the stories of the
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Speaker 2: religious context, even like, let's say, Ashtar becomes Easter, you know, Hannibal,
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Speaker 2: you know, or Melkart becomes, what's his name, Hercules. Even
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Speaker 2: the name of Europe, most people don't know where the
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Speaker 2: name Europe that was made up in the 1600s, the
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Speaker 2: of this appendix of Asia that we call Europe comes
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Speaker 2: from the goddess Europa, which is the goddess of Sur,
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Speaker 2: the city, the port city in South Lebanon. And the
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Speaker 2: story is that, you know, Apollo likes her. He sees her.
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Speaker 2: He likes her. He kidnaps her. He rapes her. He
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Speaker 2: makes her impregnated. He takes her kid and kills her.
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Speaker 2: And this is what the what we now call the Europeans,
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Speaker 2: decided as a marker of who they are. They decided
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Speaker 2: to name themselves by that, by this action of looting
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Speaker 2: and raping and killing the indigenous people of Western Asia.
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Speaker 2: And when we think about the Abrahamic Accords and this
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Speaker 2: last three centuries almost of how the Europeans, quote unquote,
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Speaker 2: looted our religiosity, the Judaism first, and how that, if
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Speaker 2: you want to take God out of it, and you
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Speaker 2: want to just think of it as a, from a
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Speaker 2: human perspective, non-religious way, you can think about the rise
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Speaker 2: of monotheism or unitarism by the people of this region
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Speaker 2: is as a response to the constant colonialism, trying to
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Speaker 2: unify the tribes, the Semitic tribes in the region against
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Speaker 2: foreign invasion and occupation. And every time the Europeans would
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Speaker 2: loot our culture, including our theological heritage, we'd rebel against that.
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Speaker 2: So once Judaism was looted by the Romans and Caesar's
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Speaker 2: mother became Jewish and the governor of Palestine, Herod, was Jewish,
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Speaker 2: then we had the birth of Christianity. kind of a
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Speaker 2: rebellion against that colonization of Judaism. And once Christianity itself
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Speaker 2: was looted by the Europeans and the capital of it
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Speaker 2: forcefully was moved from Jerusalem to the Vatican, that's the
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Speaker 2: birth of Islam. So the Abrahamic Accords was the attempt
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Speaker 2: by the European colonialists to also loot Islam and birth
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Speaker 2: an Islam, as we saw over the last century, that
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Speaker 2: matches the imperialist desires of what is a Muslim. So
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Speaker 2: this Wahhabi cult that we saw in Saudi Arabia that
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Speaker 2: was supported by arms and so on by the British
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Speaker 2: and eventually aided in the defeat of all Arabic people
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Speaker 2: liberation movements since World War I, was supposed to become
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Speaker 2: the new Islam. The bin Ladens and the oil sheikhs
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Speaker 2: with their harems are supposed to represent the new Muslim,
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Speaker 2: the new Arab in the image of the European. And
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Speaker 2: Al-Aqsa flood not only ended the project of trying to
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Speaker 2: defeat the Palestinian people and erase them from existence, it
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Speaker 2: actually ended this project. It exposed this imperialist Islam that
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Speaker 2: the West was trying to form. And it put to
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Speaker 2: question the Christianity and the Judaism of the West that
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Speaker 2: is not the indigenous people's Christianity and Judaism. So the
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Speaker 2: effects of October 7th are going to carry throughout history
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Speaker 2: and have challenged a process that has been going on
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Speaker 2: for decades and centuries.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. Many people don't even realize the reason why
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Speaker 1: Europe has traditionally borrowed a lot from West Asia and
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Speaker 1: Egypt is because that was the cradle of civilization. Greece
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Speaker 1: and Romans, they actually existed on the fringe of the
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Speaker 1: ancient civilizational center that was that was in West Asia.
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Speaker 1: And both Greece and Rome, they have inherited and they
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Speaker 1: heavily borrow a lot of these cultures from the more advanced,
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Speaker 1: far richer civilizations to their east. In fact, even during
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Speaker 1: the Roman Empire, outside of Italy, the most wealthiest Roman
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Speaker 1: provinces are in the east. They're either Egypt or Levant.
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Speaker 1: and Syria. And that, you know, you mentioned about their
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Speaker 1: pact with the Saudi houses because the imperialists, they were
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Speaker 1: more worried about the pan-Arabic nationalism, you know, that was
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Speaker 1: symbolized by Nasser of Egypt. So this is why they
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Speaker 1: put a lot of money to back the Saudi as
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Speaker 1: an alternative, as to what they should, you know, because
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Speaker 1: the House of Saudi was always ready to work with
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Speaker 1: either the British or the Americans. And just, you know,
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Speaker 1: by promoting the Saudi brand of Wahhabi Islam that helped to,
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Speaker 1: you know, control, mind control a larger population. That was
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Speaker 1: always their goal. You know, they did that in, in Afghanistan,
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Speaker 1: on the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan during the war,
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Speaker 1: the Afghan war, by having Saudis funding all the madrasas
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Speaker 1: along the border, targeting all these Afghan refugee, particularly children,
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Speaker 1: and then sent them so they can be used to
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Speaker 1: fight as mujahideens against the Soviets. So this is how
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Speaker 1: the West always sees the West Asia as a place
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Speaker 1: to be exploited. And now they are desperate trying to
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Speaker 1: hold down to their power because as we see right now,
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Speaker 1: United States is really a paper tiger in this latest conflict.
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Speaker 1: It turns out for all these display of military porn
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Speaker 1: that they put on Hollywood and TV all the time,
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Speaker 1: there's really not much they can do to open the
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Speaker 1: street or her moods. And now the Red Sea is
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Speaker 1: also closed. And this is having a major impact on
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Speaker 1: the global energy price. And U.S. and Israel, they're really
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Speaker 1: losing control. And this is something that really freaks out
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Speaker 1: the Washington elite. And this is why they're constantly asking
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Speaker 1: people to condemn October 7th. They always condemn people. You
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Speaker 1: made the comparison between slavery, American slavery to what people
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Speaker 1: in Gaza was going through. I just saw an interview
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Speaker 1: with Norman Finkelstein. He made a similar comparison. He said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: why would you want me to condemn Nate Turner's rebellion?
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Speaker 1: Nate Turner is a folk hero.
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Speaker 2: It's true.
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Speaker 1: They may have indiscriminately kill people, but that's what happens
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Speaker 1: when you oppress the people and leave them with no choice.
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Speaker 1: You don't condemn that. You don't condemn people's resistance toward
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Speaker 1: tyranny and oppression. I totally agree with that assessment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and when we look at the military situation in
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Speaker 2: Western Asia right now. Again, there's a lot of things
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Speaker 2: that are happening that it's going to take a while
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Speaker 2: for people outside the region to realize how significant these
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Speaker 2: events are. So when we think about the innovations that
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Speaker 2: the besieged peoples in Gaza came up with, that idea
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Speaker 2: of doing those paragliders, for instance, and or looking at
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Speaker 2: the innovations that the resistance in Lebanon put forward, those
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Speaker 2: FPVs being used against the advancing Israeli military, and or,
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Speaker 2: of course, what we saw happen with Iran, the use
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Speaker 2: of their hypersonic missiles and multi-warhead missiles and so forth,
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Speaker 2: those innovations brought into the battlefield that have, change the
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Speaker 2: balance of power permanently in Western Asia right now. In fact,
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Speaker 2: the successes of Yemen and Iran against the armadas of
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Speaker 2: NATO's navy first have not only pushed away these navies,
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Speaker 2: it actually ended 600 years' epoch. Since 1492, when the
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Speaker 2: Europeans diverted their military power from being land-based, invasions of crusades,
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Speaker 2: to naval invasions and besieging of peoples in the Americas,
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Speaker 2: and then Africa, Asia, and Oceania. So for the last
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Speaker 2: 600 years, the European colonial powers, eventually becoming Washington, D.C.,
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Speaker 2: have governed the world through the projection of force through Navy. Well,
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Speaker 2: that ended right now. So we just ended 600 year epoch.
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Speaker 2: This is something that hasn't happened in a long time. Similarly,
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Speaker 2: the parity that the drones and hypersonic missiles brought in
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Speaker 2: make it impossible for imperialists to put air bases near
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Speaker 2: you to invade you have now ended 100 years, a
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Speaker 2: century of air supremacy of the West. So now the
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Speaker 2: American and Western Air Force has to be stationed in
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Speaker 2: Europe or further even to try to attack Iran. And
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Speaker 2: that is not a sustainable way to do air campaigns.
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Speaker 2: You have to be closer to the borders of somebody
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Speaker 2: that you're attacking. So Those are kind of markers in
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Speaker 2: history right now. And we don't know what's going to
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Speaker 2: be this next epoch that we're entering yet. We haven't
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Speaker 2: visualized it. What is going to go? How is this
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Speaker 2: going to work out? And on the ground, of course,
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Speaker 2: the psychospatial borders are questioned right now. And partially because
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Speaker 2: of the imperialist actions themselves. Remember, the imperialists are the
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Speaker 2: ones that wanted to erase Sykes-Picot and create the ISIS
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Speaker 2: state by force. They're the ones that made it possible
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Speaker 2: for us right now to think, well, there's no Syria.
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Speaker 2: It's governed by a Wahhabi, maybe even not an Arab,
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Speaker 2: maybe just another Kohen from the 1960s that became almost
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Speaker 2: the Minister of Defense of Syria. So they are the
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Speaker 2: ones that made it right now possible for us to
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Speaker 2: imagine the reunification of the Arabic world, at least of
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Speaker 2: the Levant, of the greater Syria area. They're the ones
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Speaker 2: that right now that wanted to destroy Yemen and destroy
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Speaker 2: and fracture Iran that made it possible for us to
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Speaker 2: imagine the erasure of these vassal-installed monarchies and city-states that
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Speaker 2: never existed before World War I. So we're entering an
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Speaker 2: era of huge changes, all started by the actions of
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Speaker 2: the Palestinians in the besieged extermination camp of Gaza on
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Speaker 2: October 7th. So we have to not only remember the
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Speaker 2: Palestinians as victims, in Gaza, but think of them as visionaries.
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Speaker 2: Like when you read Yahya Sanwar's writings about how he
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Speaker 2: envisioned after October 7th, what is going to happen? You
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Speaker 2: realize that he was forcing all of the parties in
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Speaker 2: the world to come out in the public and declare
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Speaker 2: the truth of their position. So we saw, of course,
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Speaker 2: the whole West doesn't really care about human rights. There's
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Speaker 2: no such thing as freedom of speech. There's no such
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Speaker 2: thing as freedom of the media. There's no women's rights,
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Speaker 2: children's rights, environmentalism. All of that was thrown in the garbage.
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Speaker 2: International law was set ablaze. Similarly, all the vassals from
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Speaker 2: Turkey and Saudi and Pakistan and Egypt that talk, talk,
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Speaker 2: talk about Palestinian rights, while they are working directly behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes with the Zionists and the imperialists, have now
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Speaker 2: outed themselves fully. And on the other side, the axis
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Speaker 2: of resistance was forced to take action. It couldn't anymore
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Speaker 2: wait because of October 7th and the beginnings of the genocide.
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Speaker 2: So it forced every actor in the world involved in
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Speaker 2: the battle in Palestine to take action. public positions that
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Speaker 2: match their actual actions and right now we basically live
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Speaker 2: in this age of revelations all because of the october
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Speaker 2: 7th uh glorious actions.
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Speaker 1: Um i want to talk about what's happening in your
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Speaker 1: in your immediate neighborhood because because israel right now is
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Speaker 1: trying to turn southern lebanon into another gaza uh what
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Speaker 1: is going on right there right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah i mean uh It's been more than three months
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Speaker 2: of supposed ceasefire in South Lebanon, but the Israelis, as
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Speaker 2: you're saying, are continuing to erase the villages in the
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Speaker 2: south behind their occupation line. So I think it's almost
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Speaker 2: now 40 villages that have been completely blown up. Every house,
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Speaker 2: every mosque, every church, every cemetery in them blown up
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Speaker 2: and erased. So All the centennial olive trees that are 2,000, 3,000
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Speaker 2: years old in the south of Lebanon have been looted, uprooted,
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Speaker 2: and taken by the Israelis. And although there's continuation of
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Speaker 2: military actions by the Israelis in the south, they have stalled.
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Speaker 2: They have been trying to advance on two axes, one
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Speaker 2: on the coastline, around a village called Al-Mansouri. For the
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Speaker 2: last three months, they've been bombarding it and haven't been
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Speaker 2: able to enter it, although they're claiming to be in ceasefire,
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Speaker 2: as I said. And similarly, around the Nabatiya city and
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Speaker 2: what is called Al-Tahir Hill that everybody right now knows. Again,
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Speaker 2: three months of attempted to enter Al-Tahir Hill and they
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to. On the other side, it seems
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Speaker 2: like Hezbollah and the resistance in Lebanon have coordinated their
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Speaker 2: actions with the Axis of Resistance, which have decided to,
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Speaker 2: I think, slow the confrontation in Lebanon while the other
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Speaker 2: battlefields in Western Asia are dealt with. And it seems
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Speaker 2: like both sides of the conflict want this. Israel doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to... seems like to have a direct war in Lebanon.
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Speaker 2: And if it does a full war in Lebanon, it
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Speaker 2: knows that Iran will be dragged in immediately. And the
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Speaker 2: whole imperial camp wants to destabilize the other Axis resistance members,
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Speaker 2: meaning Iraq and Yemen. We saw those attempts to create
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Speaker 2: like civil war in both that failed. And now, as
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Speaker 2: we see, there's a direct confrontation in Yemen. So this
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Speaker 2: is Yemen and Iraq, I think, will have priority in
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Speaker 2: the next weeks and months in this confrontation because both
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Speaker 2: sides of the conflict have decided that. Lebanon is going
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Speaker 2: to be kept to be the last one to be
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Speaker 2: dealt with, I think, on both sides of the conflict.
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Speaker 2: You know, there is over 9,000 martyrs in Lebanon in
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Speaker 2: these three years, tens of thousands of injured. And this is,
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Speaker 2: of course, affecting the whole country. There's hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 2: of internally displaced. The economy is under a lot of stress,
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Speaker 2: especially with the fall of Syria to the Wahhabi death squads.
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Speaker 2: But overall, if we look at since October 7th, the
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Speaker 2: Israelis haven't been able to defeat anyone, even with the
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Speaker 2: combined might of the imperial order behind them. They haven't
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Speaker 2: been able to defeat the Palestinians in Gaza, and they
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to defeat the resistance in Lebanon, and
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Speaker 2: surely they were roundly thrashed by both Yemen and Iran.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's good to hear because Israel obviously sees October
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Speaker 1: 7th as the reason to launch this war into, expand
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Speaker 1: the war into Lebanon. And they thought this was their
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Speaker 1: chance to wipe out Hezbollah for good. But what they
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Speaker 1: don't seem to realize is it's their very action that's
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Speaker 1: inflaming further resistance because, you know, Hezbollah wasn't a thing.
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Speaker 1: before the 1980s. It was the Israel and American entering
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Speaker 1: into Lebanon that created the condition to create Hezbollah. And
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Speaker 1: now they're just, you know, making sure there will be more,
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Speaker 1: there will be more, even more resistance that will continue. What,
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Speaker 1: so what's, I like to, pick your brain, what do
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Speaker 1: you think that's going to shape out in the immediate
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Speaker 1: future in West Asia as a result of the current
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Speaker 1: war that's raging against Iran and Yemen, etc.
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Speaker 2: Well, of course, Yemen right now is the main battle zone.
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Speaker 2: And as we see, it is Yemen would be liberated
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Speaker 2: much faster than it is being liberated right now if
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Speaker 2: the imperial armies and machine wasn't backing the puny Saudi state.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, with all the help of the imperial militaries, French, British,
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Speaker 2: Italian air force that is helping the Saudis and bombarding
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Speaker 2: Yemen currently, that it didn't work. to the point where
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Speaker 2: the Saudis right now are kind of buying up the
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Speaker 2: Turkish and Pakistani militaries and trying to force them to
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Speaker 2: fight the war on their behalf. So what does this mean?
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Speaker 2: It means that the whole order in the Arabian Peninsula,
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Speaker 2: all of the imperialist holdings are at the edge of collapse,
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Speaker 2: that they Saudi Arabia, that supposedly had beef with Turkey,
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Speaker 2: is begging Turkey to send its army to defend it.
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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, who abuses Pakistani foreign workers, is begging Pakistan
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Speaker 2: to come and defend it. It also is exposing these
28:55
Speaker 2: two vassal regimes in Pakistan and Turkey, which have been
28:59
Speaker 2: mainly very stable, especially Turkey since the end of World
29:05
Speaker 2: War I and II, are now going to risk everything
29:10
Speaker 2: they have that they've gained through the imperial order to
29:14
Speaker 2: defend a failing state, the Saudi King. And it is
29:18
Speaker 2: going to bring the war to their territories. Up until now,
29:22
Speaker 2: the two largest vessels in this area, in terms of militaries,
29:29
Speaker 2: the Turkish and Pakistani states, are going to risk their
29:34
Speaker 2: stability and will see the effects of what actions they
29:41
Speaker 2: take against Yemen reverberating inside their countries. And so you
29:46
Speaker 2: have already in Pakistan the demonstrations that are coming out
29:49
Speaker 2: for the liberation of Imran Khan, the deposed president that
29:57
Speaker 2: the military did a coup against on behalf of the U.S.,
30:01
Speaker 2: there will be things breaking out in Turkey. Already, there
30:06
Speaker 2: are daily demonstrations in Turkey that the media doesn't cover
30:09
Speaker 2: at the outside of the American bases in Angelique, outside
30:14
Speaker 2: the ports of Turkey that are exporting products to Israel.
30:19
Speaker 2: By the way, Turkey is the largest economic trade partner
30:22
Speaker 2: with Israel, even throughout the genocide, just to show you.
30:26
Speaker 2: So the population in Turkey is at the edge of
30:31
Speaker 2: And taking this action of sending Turkish soldiers to die
30:37
Speaker 2: in a fight to suppress Yemen is going to destabilize Turkey.
30:41
Speaker 2: So remember that the imperialists were thinking at one point
30:45
Speaker 2: that they will use the Turkish and Pakistani militaries and
30:48
Speaker 2: terrorists in those territories to attack Iran to destabilize it.
30:53
Speaker 2: Now the empire is having to drag those vassal armies
30:59
Speaker 2: into a battle in Yemen, which means they will not
31:02
Speaker 2: be there to attack Iran. And also they will be
31:07
Speaker 2: humiliated and weakened in their fight against Yemen. So this
31:11
Speaker 2: is actually a desperate move for the empire to do.
31:19
Speaker 1: Why do you think Saudi choose at this particular moment
31:23
Speaker 1: to reignite the war in Yemen? Because if people remember,
31:27
Speaker 1: Yemeni did not immediately jump in because, you know, they
31:32
Speaker 1: had a ceasefire going. And after U.S. wrapped up the
31:35
Speaker 1: so-called Operation Prosperity Guardian, and after Israel and United States
31:44
Speaker 1: launched their illegal war against Iran, Yemeni said, you know,
31:49
Speaker 1: If this continued, they are ready to jump in. But
31:52
Speaker 1: they did not do it immediately until Saudis, for whatever reason,
31:57
Speaker 1: decided to reignite this conflict, which is now they're being beaten.
32:01
Speaker 1: Why do you think they did that?
32:04
Speaker 2: Because they're a vassal that can't even take decisions that
32:08
Speaker 2: are good for themselves. if there was a rational actor
32:13
Speaker 2: that is not a vassal in Saudi Arabia, they would
32:15
Speaker 2: have looked at the fact that they can't export oil
32:18
Speaker 2: and gas through the Hormuz and that their only port
32:22
Speaker 2: of export right now is the Red Sea and it's
32:24
Speaker 2: safe and nobody touched it. And they were the only
32:27
Speaker 2: ones of the Arabian Peninsula vassal monarchies that still had exports.
32:34
Speaker 2: But the master in the White House ordered them to
32:39
Speaker 2: commit suicide, basically, on his behalf. Because you remember, originally,
32:44
Speaker 2: the plan was to create some civil wars in Yemen
32:48
Speaker 2: and Iraq to take them out of the picture of
32:51
Speaker 2: the battle. And it failed. The mercenaries that the Saudis
32:57
Speaker 2: control in Yemen don't have an air force or anything.
33:01
Speaker 2: And they got overwhelmed when they attempted. And that's when
33:05
Speaker 2: the Saudis entered the battle. prompted by their master in
33:10
Speaker 2: the White House. And as we see right now, all
33:13
Speaker 2: of their remaining oil and gas infrastructure is being wiped
33:17
Speaker 2: off the map. So here is the Saudi kingdom that
33:22
Speaker 2: survived the last hundred years of all of the revolutions
33:26
Speaker 2: in the region throwing itself in the fire, right? And
33:32
Speaker 2: so there's no way we can understand these decisions Even
33:36
Speaker 2: the decisions of the empire itself and the supposed elected
33:41
Speaker 2: leaders in Western societies, their decisions to back Israel at
33:46
Speaker 2: any cost, those are not rational decisions. So what we
33:50
Speaker 2: see is that the top of the pyramid of the
33:53
Speaker 2: imperial order has now become 100% ideologically driven, and the
33:59
Speaker 2: ideology is Zionism. all of the imperial order is risking
34:05
Speaker 2: itself to maintain the existence of the Jewish colony at
34:08
Speaker 2: any cost, even if it means riots in Paris, even
34:12
Speaker 2: if it means thousands of British citizens jailed for carrying placards, right?
34:20
Speaker 2: Even if it means the economy's are destroyed and people
34:24
Speaker 2: are starving almost. So this is where we're at. We're
34:29
Speaker 2: at a moment that the only way we can analyze
34:32
Speaker 2: the decisions of the empire and its components is through
34:36
Speaker 2: this ideological lens. And so it is as the West
34:40
Speaker 2: has decided that either Israel exists or no one else
34:46
Speaker 2: can have peace. They're dragging us closer and closer even
34:50
Speaker 2: to nuclear war just to maintain this aberration or this
34:55
Speaker 2: apartheid genocidal colony in the land of Palestine. And I
35:00
Speaker 2: think the Saudis will not stop, not because they can't stop.
35:06
Speaker 2: It's because they're not allowed to. They're going to right
35:09
Speaker 2: now probably continue this war. They're going to lose badly.
35:13
Speaker 2: The future, the near future right now is that the
35:17
Speaker 2: Yemeni armed forces will liberate their territory and cross into
35:22
Speaker 2: the Saudi kingdom to liberate territories that the Sauds occupied
35:28
Speaker 2: in 1934 with British guns. What is, you know, the
35:33
Speaker 2: whole area south of Mecca in the mountains region. And inshallah, hopefully,
35:38
Speaker 2: they will also liberate Mecca and Medina. And, you know,
35:43
Speaker 2: this is important for me because most people talk about
35:47
Speaker 2: Jerusalem was occupied in World War I by the British.
35:51
Speaker 2: you know what, Mecca and Medina were also occupied. And
35:55
Speaker 2: the imperialists have now control of the capitals of Judaism, Christianity,
36:00
Speaker 2: and Islam, and are molding these religions to fit their ideals. Well,
36:05
Speaker 2: we need the liberation of Mecca and Medina as much
36:08
Speaker 2: as we need the liberation of Jerusalem, even if you
36:10
Speaker 2: don't believe in God or don't believe in religion, just
36:14
Speaker 2: to make sure that these religions are not utilized in
36:18
Speaker 2: imperial mission nations.
36:22
Speaker 1: Well said.
36:22
Speaker 3: But right now, the war is obviously not going well
36:32
Speaker 3: for either U.S.
36:34
Speaker 1: Or Israel. What do you think Israel's endgame is? I mean,
36:40
Speaker 1: right now, I understand Netanyahu, why Netanyahu wants to expand
36:47
Speaker 1: the war. He has a very personal reason to expand
36:49
Speaker 1: the war so he can be the war president. But
36:52
Speaker 1: also the Israeli society basically went collectively insane after October 7th,
36:59
Speaker 1: and now they just want to lash out. But what
37:03
Speaker 1: is the end game here? Are they really serious about
37:07
Speaker 1: creating a greater Israel in West Asia? I mean, it
37:12
Speaker 1: sounds far-fetched, but then you see them wearing the greater
37:16
Speaker 1: Israel patches on their uniforms. What do you think they're after?
37:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely after the subjugation of the Arabic and
37:30
Speaker 2: Muslim peoples as a whole under their control. And in
37:34
Speaker 2: a way, Greater Israel already exists on the map. But
37:39
Speaker 2: when you think, of course, that the Egyptian regime, the
37:42
Speaker 2: Syrian regime, current one under Jolani, the Saud regime, the
37:47
Speaker 2: Jordanian regime, all of them are vassals. And an Israeli
37:51
Speaker 2: can walk into Mecca and film themselves and also can
37:55
Speaker 2: walk into Damascus right now and film themselves and nobody
37:59
Speaker 2: stops them. Of course, there is a greater Israel already in,
38:04
Speaker 2: you know, not drawn up on the map, but already exists.
38:07
Speaker 2: And partially... This whole idea of Greater Israel, we can
38:11
Speaker 2: go back to this idea of how Europeans want to
38:16
Speaker 2: colonize the identity of the Arab. They play pretend Semites.
38:21
Speaker 2: Those borders of Greater Israel is really the core of
38:26
Speaker 2: the Canaanite population. You know, Egypt, Syria. Palestine and so
38:34
Speaker 2: forth and the north of Arabia are the home of
38:39
Speaker 2: the Canaanites. When Syrian Social Nationalist Party, the SSMP, draws
38:47
Speaker 2: the borders of what they think should be the greater
38:50
Speaker 2: Syria that should be unified, they draw basically the same
38:53
Speaker 2: lines except with Egypt not included. So you can see
38:58
Speaker 2: how This comes back to the same idea of looting
39:02
Speaker 2: the identity of the indigenous and trying to play pretend.
39:06
Speaker 2: Like in the U.S., those politicians that say, I'm 118th Cherokee,
39:14
Speaker 2: doing pretendian, as they call it in the U.S., and
39:16
Speaker 2: kind of pretend Indian. Like Elizabeth Warren.
39:20
Speaker 1: Like Elizabeth Warren. Exactly, exactly, exactly.
39:24
Speaker 2: So this is the same thing. Netanyahu is like, I am,
39:27
Speaker 2: you know, my ancestors 4,000 years ago. And you're like, what?
39:32
Speaker 2: So they want to play pretend Semites. And so are
39:37
Speaker 2: they going to succeed? They're not going to succeed, of course.
39:40
Speaker 2: There's before them, before this Jew Seder colony, I like
39:45
Speaker 2: to call it, there was the Crusaders. that also tried
39:49
Speaker 2: to hold on, and they couldn't last a century, just
39:52
Speaker 2: like the Israelis right now are not going to last
39:55
Speaker 2: this century. So it is an impossible task without total
40:02
Speaker 2: annihilation of the Arabic and Muslim peoples, not only the Palestinians.
40:07
Speaker 2: Remember that Crusaders actually genocided and ethnically cleansed the whole
40:11
Speaker 2: coast of Syria. The Palestinian original peoples By the way,
40:18
Speaker 2: before the Crusades, even though Islam was in greater Syria
40:23
Speaker 2: area for hundreds of years, the majority were still Christian
40:26
Speaker 2: because Muslim Arabs didn't forcefully convert anybody. The Crusaders came
40:32
Speaker 2: and killed the Christian Palestinians and Christian Syrians because they
40:36
Speaker 2: saw them as heretics, because they didn't believe in the Pope.
40:39
Speaker 2: They were all still on their local sects of Christianity
40:46
Speaker 2: that were more agnostic. And so even though that there
40:51
Speaker 2: was an ethnic cleansing of the coast of Syria by
40:54
Speaker 2: the Crusaders, the minute the Crusades collapsed, it was repopulated
41:00
Speaker 2: by the same population, the Canaanite Arabs. And in fact,
41:04
Speaker 2: it was the rest of the Arabic Canaanites and Muslims
41:07
Speaker 2: that fought the crusaders and liberated Palestine. Similar to the
41:10
Speaker 2: situation now. Even if they kill every Palestinian, as long
41:14
Speaker 2: as there's one Arab still that has pride, they will
41:17
Speaker 2: defeat and fight back. If you kill all the Arabs,
41:21
Speaker 2: there's going to be one Muslim that's going to stand
41:23
Speaker 2: up and fight you back. So it's a fool's errand
41:28
Speaker 2: to think that the Israelis, the Zionists, can change the
41:33
Speaker 2: course of history, rewrite human history as a whole in
41:38
Speaker 2: the 21st century as they are conducting a broadcast of genocide.
41:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, their myth is, oh, we're a people
41:48
Speaker 1: without land coming to a land without people. But, you know, look,
41:54
Speaker 1: this happened in the 20th century.
41:58
Speaker 4: The picture has been invented for over 50 years at
42:04
Speaker 4: that point. There were plenty of photographic evidence of flourishing
42:09
Speaker 4: cities in Palestine before all these refugees arrived. But more
42:19
Speaker 4: and more people are now realizing their lies thanks to
42:22
Speaker 4: their own atrocities and blatant disregard for human lives.
42:28
Speaker 1: There's that. I remember growing up in the United States
42:33
Speaker 1: in the 1990s. Back then, you can't even say you'll
42:40
Speaker 1: be ostracized if you say free Palestine. Because the US
42:47
Speaker 1: media portrayed Palestinians as terrorists. Now, especially among the young people,
42:54
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of Older folks were still brainwashed
43:00
Speaker 1: by Fox, but a lot of young people, especially Gen Z,
43:05
Speaker 1: they can see what is right from wrong. And now
43:11
Speaker 1: the Free Palestine is quite popular, even in the West
43:15
Speaker 1: as well, as a slogan, as a political slogan. Now
43:20
Speaker 1: the question is, when is that going to happen? How
43:27
Speaker 1: do we end this occupation, this occupation that had started
43:33
Speaker 1: from 1948?
43:37
Speaker 2: Well, look, as I said, the Israelis already are defeated.
43:42
Speaker 2: The whole might of the empire... uh, is behind them
43:48
Speaker 2: and they're still in a stalemate with the resistance in
43:52
Speaker 2: Gaza and, uh, Lebanon, if there is, uh, if the
43:56
Speaker 2: backing in the, of the West, economic, military, propaganda, uh,
44:02
Speaker 2: political and diplomatic ceases for one day, Israel will collapse.
44:08
Speaker 2: So we are kind of like playing in the, uh,
44:11
Speaker 2: extra time, right? Um, and, uh, The question is, how
44:16
Speaker 2: long will the imperialist capitals back this, and how much
44:23
Speaker 2: will they risk beyond what they already risked? And I
44:28
Speaker 2: feel currently that it seems like the imperialist elite are
44:36
Speaker 2: ready to do a collective suicide rather than give up Israel.
44:43
Speaker 2: Look at the You mentioned all this change in the
44:47
Speaker 2: public opinion that happened in the West. There's no turning
44:51
Speaker 2: back from that. You can't force people to become Zionist.
44:55
Speaker 2: It's going to take you at least three generations for
44:57
Speaker 2: people to forget what they just witnessed, all of them.
45:02
Speaker 2: And that's an impossibility. Israel cannot survive for three more
45:07
Speaker 2: generations of war. And the West cannot afford it. So
45:13
Speaker 2: what is going to happen? I think We are edging
45:16
Speaker 2: closer and closer to the end of this. Most probably
45:21
Speaker 2: the whole order in Western Asia has to change before
45:24
Speaker 2: the collapse of Israel. And as we see, it's beginning.
45:29
Speaker 2: Iran could have, if it wanted, occupied, invaded the city-states,
45:34
Speaker 2: at least, like Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, and the UAE, who
45:38
Speaker 2: really don't exist. But it's deciding not to. because it
45:41
Speaker 2: doesn't want to become an occupier. It wants an Arabic
45:45
Speaker 2: revolution that leads to an Arabic state that is capable
45:50
Speaker 2: of defending itself and being in alliance with Iran. And
45:55
Speaker 2: that's where Yemen comes in, or the Iraqi resistance that
45:58
Speaker 2: is being built right now will come in. So I
46:02
Speaker 2: see that we have two more years at least of war.
46:08
Speaker 2: It's going to intensify. And because we already heard that
46:13
Speaker 2: Trump threatened three times the use of nuclear weapons, this
46:17
Speaker 2: is going to be a constant, the threat of the
46:20
Speaker 2: use of nuclear weapons. I believe the United States will
46:24
Speaker 2: not use nuclear weapons against Iran because that will mean
46:28
Speaker 2: both the great powers of China and Russia will have
46:31
Speaker 2: the right to use nuclear weapons. But there is the
46:36
Speaker 2: threat of the puny colony of Israel using nuclear weapons.
46:41
Speaker 2: because that wouldn't open the door for the superpowers to
46:45
Speaker 2: do so. But it will open the door for the
46:49
Speaker 2: secondary powers like North Korea, Belarus, and Pakistan to also
46:54
Speaker 2: use nuclear weapons. And it doesn't mean that if Israel,
46:59
Speaker 2: you know, there is a chance that Israel uses a
47:03
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, but I think it's very low also. Because
47:07
Speaker 2: Iran has the military capabilities to destroy the nuclear infrastructure
47:11
Speaker 2: of Israel, which will lead to a nuclear disaster and
47:14
Speaker 2: the end of the population of Israel. Just hitting the
47:17
Speaker 2: two nuclear reactors that the Israelis built will be sufficient
47:22
Speaker 2: enough to irradiate all of historic Palestine. And that will
47:27
Speaker 2: be the end of the population. So it's a suicidal
47:29
Speaker 2: move to do to an attack on Iran. Therefore, I
47:33
Speaker 2: think as we edge closer and closer to the collapse
47:36
Speaker 2: of the imperialist order in Western Asia, there's more responsibility
47:41
Speaker 2: on the populations on the West to pressure their elite
47:47
Speaker 2: to withdraw the nuclear weapons of Israel, as they did
47:51
Speaker 2: at the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa
47:54
Speaker 2: that had nukes, which was also threatening countries that it occupies,
47:59
Speaker 2: like Namibia, Zimbabwe, Rhodesia, so forth, of used nuclear weapons
48:05
Speaker 2: against the African rebels. And that withdrawal of the nuclear
48:10
Speaker 2: weapons from South Africa by the imperialists was a necessary
48:15
Speaker 2: step before the collapse of the apartheid regime. And that's
48:18
Speaker 2: where we are going to get to in the next
48:21
Speaker 2: two years as the imperial order in Western Asia collapses
48:25
Speaker 2: The priority would be, can we get the Western imperial
48:29
Speaker 2: powers to withdraw those nuclear weapons to make sure that
48:33
Speaker 2: the collapse of Israel will be as peaceful as possible?
48:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think one reason that the Western
48:43
Speaker 1: elite seems to hellbent on this suicidal path is actually
48:49
Speaker 1: their society and more importantly themselves hasn't really felt the
48:56
Speaker 1: pain and the consequences but i think that is coming
49:00
Speaker 1: because you know the this war is not going to
49:03
Speaker 1: end anytime soon the the energy prices is not going
49:07
Speaker 1: to come down anytime soon uh but you know the
49:10
Speaker 1: the gas prices already became a election issue in the
49:13
Speaker 1: coming november election in united states and it's only going
49:17
Speaker 1: to get worse It's not getting any better. So at
49:23
Speaker 1: some point, I think at some point, the pressure is
49:26
Speaker 1: already built in the imperial core to have their government
49:31
Speaker 1: to stop this madness. And we'll see. I agree with you.
49:35
Speaker 1: The people in the West who live in imperial core
49:39
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to demand their government to stop this madness,
49:43
Speaker 1: to demand some accountability from their government. You know, like
49:47
Speaker 1: in a supposedly democracy, right? You should exercise your democratic rights. And,
49:54
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of that has been
49:56
Speaker 1: hollowed out in the West, but still it doesn't mean
49:59
Speaker 1: you should give up the struggle. You should take the,
50:02
Speaker 1: you know, take the fight through what means you have available.
50:09
Speaker 1: which even if that means ballot box, if that's the
50:13
Speaker 1: only thing you have, that's what you got.
50:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course, as we see, the societies in
50:22
Speaker 2: the West have a lot of traditions of revolution and resistance.
50:27
Speaker 2: And if those peaceful means do not work, you know,
50:36
Speaker 2: there's You know, we wish and hope for revolutions in
50:40
Speaker 2: the West. Unfortunately, of course, there hasn't been any successful
50:45
Speaker 2: revolution in Western societies in more than 100 years. But,
50:51
Speaker 2: you know, groups like Palestine Action that are taking direct
50:55
Speaker 2: action against the war machine are actually affecting the ability
51:02
Speaker 2: of the empire to conduct its genocidal wars. This revolt
51:07
Speaker 2: that we're seeing in Paris and in France in general
51:11
Speaker 2: may look like it's just about students' fees or whatever
51:15
Speaker 2: for schools and universities, but it is actually beyond that.
51:20
Speaker 2: So we will see more of these uprisings and revolutions
51:25
Speaker 2: in the West because the imperial order is refusing to
51:31
Speaker 2: allow any for the population. They used to play it, yes.
51:36
Speaker 2: Of course, there was never a free storm of speech
51:37
Speaker 2: or freedom of media or real electoral politics in the West,
51:41
Speaker 2: but at least there was some theatrics of it or
51:43
Speaker 2: allowing some, you know, release of the pressure in different places.
51:49
Speaker 2: Right now, there is none. So, we'll see how the
51:54
Speaker 2: internal cohesion of the elite stays. Are they going to
51:59
Speaker 2: start cannibalizing each other? That's another question. We're looking at
52:02
Speaker 2: how Trump is threatening Europe and Canada and Greenland and
52:08
Speaker 2: so on, it feels like the empire is cannibalizing itself.
52:11
Speaker 2: So at some point, the cohesion of all of these components,
52:15
Speaker 2: the vassals in the Arabic world or the Muslim world,
52:18
Speaker 2: the vassals in Africa, Latin America or Europe, they will
52:22
Speaker 2: start cannibalizing each other. And we hope that between this,
52:28
Speaker 2: that the populations in the West will be able to
52:30
Speaker 2: rise and liberate themselves somehow. Because, you know, ultimately, we're
52:35
Speaker 2: not just working for the liberation of Palestine. We're working
52:38
Speaker 2: for the liberation of humanity. Our faith is intrinsically connected.
52:44
Speaker 2: That's the new world that we're hoping for of multipolarity
52:48
Speaker 2: and multisivilizational centers.
52:52
Speaker 1: I really appreciate talking to you because you always... brings
52:56
Speaker 1: a positive, more hopeful angle. But me personally, I think
53:00
Speaker 1: in the West, things have to get a lot worse
53:03
Speaker 1: before you get better because really people haven't really felt the,
53:07
Speaker 1: the true pain, uh, you know, haven't really taken the,
53:11
Speaker 1: facing the consequences of all the foolishness, uh, action of
53:14
Speaker 1: their government. But that, that is coming. That is coming. And,
53:18
Speaker 1: and we're, we're, we're pretty close. I think, you know, for,
53:21
Speaker 1: for so long, it was, uh, uh, uh, boiling frog moment, right?
53:26
Speaker 1: There's a frog. Everyone is just like frogs. They're in
53:30
Speaker 1: the lukewarm water.
53:31
Speaker 5: The water is getting a little warm, but it's like, okay,
53:34
Speaker 5: it's a little hot, but maybe I can deal with this.
53:37
Speaker 5: But the water is going to have to reach a
53:40
Speaker 5: boiling point for people to jump out and do something
53:44
Speaker 5: about it.
53:45
Speaker 1: But I think we're approaching that threshold now. And I
53:52
Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming to this show to share your
53:55
Speaker 1: perspective on what's actually happening in your region is there
54:00
Speaker 1: any other uh topic that you wish to cover.
54:04
Speaker 2: Uh well i i think we covered a lot uh
54:07
Speaker 2: i really appreciate your invitation carl i'm glad to have
54:11
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54:15
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54:50
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54:55
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55:01
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Speaker 1: Sorry, what's the website? Where do the people go?
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Speaker 2: The website is freepalestine.video, and you can find all our
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Speaker 2: social media networks from there. We're mainly called Free Palestine
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Speaker 2: TV on all of the other social media platforms, but
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Speaker 2: we couldn't buy that URL. Somebody has it and is
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Speaker 2: refusing to sell it. Maybe it probably is honest. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Of course, they're always squatting. Okay, people, make sure you
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Speaker 1: give Lateef a follow. Go check out the freepilestinetv.video. Check
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Speaker 1: out their, follow him and his team all throughout social networks.
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Speaker 1: And again, thank you very much, Lateef, for making your
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Speaker 1: time to speak to us. It's always good to actually
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Speaker 1: speak to someone with a deep cultural connection to the
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Speaker 1: region that he's talking about. So I appreciate that. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for anyone, everyone for watching. Until next time.