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Go Low - Players Championship Predictions, Rory McIlroy back injury, Scottie Scheffler slumping? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff gol Podcast.
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Speaker 1: How are we doing? Hopefully you're doing well. We have
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Speaker 1: the players. As Brandon would say, the fifth major of
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Speaker 1: the year. We can debate that, but it's no disputing
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Speaker 1: the biggest PGA Tour tournament of the year. Uh, probably
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Speaker 1: ahead of Waste Management riv Memorial doesn't get much bigger.
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Speaker 1: Rory the defending champ, bad back, Scottie the previous defending
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Speaker 1: champ back to back years not playing well. So a
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Speaker 1: lot of question marks coming into this year. Uh, that's
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Speaker 1: why it's fun to bet on. So I'll go over
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Speaker 1: some of the guys I'm betting on. O Jay one
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Speaker 1: at Bayhill, we got the new commissioner, Brian Rolapp, who
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Speaker 1: is gonna speak Wednesday, probably gonna shake some things up.
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Speaker 1: So let's just start this week with the players. Like
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Speaker 1: most people, this is an awesome tournament. It always feels big.
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Speaker 1: It looks fantastic on television, which some people get bad
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Speaker 1: because they overwater it. They overseed it so it looks
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Speaker 1: green like Augusta. Yet it doesn't play as hard because
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Speaker 1: it's soft. Rumors coming out and maybe this is a
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Speaker 1: role app influence that they've gotten less on that this
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Speaker 1: year they've grown out the rough. It is going to
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Speaker 1: be more difficult. This is a unique course, right, It's
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Speaker 1: not really just let a rip with driver and then
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Speaker 1: hit wedges like is a very very difficult track. And
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Speaker 1: there's a reason to last. I'll just read you off.
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Speaker 1: Since they moved this tournament to March from May nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Rory twenty didn't happen because of the RONA twenty one,
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Speaker 1: JT twenty two, Cam Smith, who was on a major heater,
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Speaker 1: then Scotty Scotty Rory, so you know, and cam Smith
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Speaker 1: was given a hundred million dollars to go to live
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Speaker 1: for a reason. He won the open at st and
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Speaker 1: he was a budding star. Kind of sad. I don't
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Speaker 1: think anyone's heard from him since. But you know, JT
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Speaker 1: I had money. I had one hundred dollars on him
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Speaker 1: that week. I think he was like twenty one or
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Speaker 1: twenty two to one. He played. I think he shot
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Speaker 1: like sixty three or sixty four on Saturday to get
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Speaker 1: himself either tied for the lead or leading going into Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It was remarkable. It was one of the great performances
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Speaker 1: you've ever seen. And last year Rory in extra holes
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Speaker 1: against JJ spawn Scottsdale guy was uh. I mean, JJ
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Speaker 1: spond could have won it in regulation. Remember his ball
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Speaker 1: came up like one revolution short and then he pumped
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Speaker 1: it in the water in extra holes and it was
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Speaker 1: a wrap. Rory routed him. But I think obviously the
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Speaker 1: big story hasn't record this on Tuesday. Is I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people last week when Rory, who actually
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Speaker 1: played pretty well on Friday, he shot four under, he's
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Speaker 1: playing well, tried to warm up, tweaked something in the gym,
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Speaker 1: and then withdrew, which you know, if this was the NBA,
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Speaker 1: he'd like guys fucking withdraw all the time in his career.
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Speaker 1: And he's been on the PGA Tour a long time,
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Speaker 1: almost two decades decades now. This is only a second
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Speaker 1: ever WD. So this is not a guy who's just
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Speaker 1: rich and famous and he ain't feeling that will just
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Speaker 1: quit in the middle of a tournament. So it's pretty abnormal.
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Speaker 1: So my first takeaway was, I don't think this is
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Speaker 1: just a guy well you got the players coming up
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Speaker 1: then the Masters. I think he felt something and I
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Speaker 1: think that is very evident by he released a statement
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Speaker 1: or a pg Tour release statement. He couldn't fly up
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Speaker 1: on Monday because it was still kind of tight. He's
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Speaker 1: not gonna come on Tuesday. His game plan is to
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Speaker 1: come up on Wednesday, which to me is a little concerning,
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Speaker 1: not just because of the defending champion at this tournament,
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Speaker 1: but the Masters is right around the corner where he
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Speaker 1: obviously also is the defending champion, and anyone, I don't
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Speaker 1: care if you've had a major back injury or just
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Speaker 1: pulled a muscle in your back working out or doing whatever.
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Speaker 1: It sucks and the older you get, it's not something
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Speaker 1: that just goes away in a couple of days. So
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Speaker 1: as someone that wants him here and wants them healthy
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Speaker 1: for the Masters to defend his title, it is definitely
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Speaker 1: something that makes me a little uneasy. Which sucks because
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Speaker 1: coming into this year, Rory had just had a fantastic season.
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Speaker 1: Obviously Scotty was playing like Tiger, and now you have
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Speaker 1: Rory injured, Scotty just does not look the same. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this guy went from an unstoppable force to watching him
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Speaker 1: last week at the API, I mean he's chucking balls
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Speaker 1: in the water. He you know, is a guy for
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Speaker 1: an all time great player. I mean his resume. If
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Speaker 1: you retire tomorrow, he'd be a Hall of Famer. He
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Speaker 1: does get emotionally pretty caught up in it. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think we used to look at some guys like
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Speaker 1: a Ram. He's like, he's just so angry. He just
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Speaker 1: gets pissed. Remember some of the the viral videos pre
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Speaker 1: like Twitter and social media, Tiger like, goddamn it, Tiger
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Speaker 1: be screaming at himself on the te box when he
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Speaker 1: pumped one oh b or into the trees. Scotty has
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Speaker 1: some of that, and listen, I'm not saying the guy's
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Speaker 1: a front runner, but golf became pretty easy for the guy.
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Speaker 1: It was like he could close his eyes and he'd
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Speaker 1: get a top five, and the majority of these tournaments
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Speaker 1: he was winning. So when it doesn't go right, like
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Speaker 1: it doesn't for most guys, including guys like Tiger and
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Speaker 1: Phil Speed now for a long time, I mean Keoepka's
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Speaker 1: Battle of It, you name it, everyone goes through it.
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Speaker 1: Like you can tell because he gets angry, he gets
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Speaker 1: pissed off, and he clearly there was a ball I
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Speaker 1: was watching on Sunday. They added some trees to this
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Speaker 1: bunker at Bayhill two, like palm trees, and Scotty from
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Speaker 1: two hundred yards hid it in the tree and they
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Speaker 1: couldn't quite figure out if it was his ball or not.
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Speaker 1: He's not exactly Patrick Reid, so he couldn't take it unplayable.
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Speaker 1: He basically had to take the equivalent of an out
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Speaker 1: of bounds and go back and reteet, and you could
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Speaker 1: tell it's like, well, one, the ball is not going
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Speaker 1: where he's used to it going, which is exactly where
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Speaker 1: he wants it to go. So big picture with Scotty,
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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to go there was not a
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Speaker 1: soul alive coming into this year that would have been like,
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Speaker 1: he's the heavy favorite at the players. I mean technically
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Speaker 1: still the betting favorite, but I'm not putting money on
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Speaker 1: him this week and a one hundred percent lock to
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Speaker 1: win one of the majors this year, and I would
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Speaker 1: say right now, it's like I'm not betting them. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying like I'm jumping off the bandwagon, like he's
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Speaker 1: just gonna be some average player. But it's a little weird,
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Speaker 1: and this is kind of the sport of golf. It
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Speaker 1: has stretches, like in baseball, when you can be an
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Speaker 1: all time great player and just have a couple months
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Speaker 1: where you bat you know, one twenty, which is actually
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Speaker 1: kind of in vogue now because as long as you
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Speaker 1: hit home runs, no one even cares what you're batting averages.
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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, like guys go through huge
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Speaker 1: slumps and it was kind of a big deal. Now
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, you hit a couple of home runs.
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Speaker 1: That's all that matters, you know. And I do think
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Speaker 1: when you look at Scotty, you just go something to monitor,
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Speaker 1: something to monitor. So you got Rory's health, you got
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Speaker 1: Scotty's game relative to his standards. Again, he was a
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Speaker 1: disaster last week and still finish what tip for twenty fourth.
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Speaker 1: So it's like this floor is by far the highest
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Speaker 1: in golf. No one's even close. I mean, you see
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Speaker 1: some of these guys like can't lay. You know, these
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Speaker 1: guys maybe Jordan or excuse me, Justin was just coming
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Speaker 1: back from an injury shot seventy nine seventy nine, which is,
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Speaker 1: you know, in theory relatable. But if like a two
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Speaker 1: handicap had played at Bayhill, you probably would have shot
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Speaker 1: like ninety two. I just think that it's these two
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Speaker 1: guys are very very interesting to watch because I would
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Speaker 1: have said both of them won a major a month ago,
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Speaker 1: and now it's like, we, well, is Rory's back okay?
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Speaker 1: And what the hell's going on with Scotty. I also
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Speaker 1: think what makes this tournament cool is like you never
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Speaker 1: really know now, Like I said, the big hitters, and
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Speaker 1: I don't mean literally hitting it far. Though Rory's won
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Speaker 1: this twice since nineteen. Cam Smith's not a big hitter.
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Speaker 1: JT's you know, he hits it far, but I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: exactly call him Bryce a chambeau. He's a shot maker. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: Scotty's a shot maker. He hits it far as well.
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Speaker 1: This is where blue chip guys thrive. But also when
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Speaker 1: you look at guy's records here, even guys that have
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Speaker 1: won it. I think there's a famous quote from Phil
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Speaker 1: Mickelson the year after he wanted he like missed the
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Speaker 1: cut and he's like, it's crazy that I ever won here,
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Speaker 1: because this tournament is just pretty bizarre. It's why betting
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Speaker 1: on this tournament can be kind of challenging. The guy
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet on this week has a horrendous record here.
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Speaker 1: He missed the cut last year, He's never finished i
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Speaker 1: think in the top fifty. But Cam Young is a
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Speaker 1: guy again, a shot maker, a guy who had finished
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Speaker 1: the end of the year last year, was one of
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Speaker 1: the better Americans in the world and one of our
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Speaker 1: best players at the Ryder Cup, if arguably our best
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Speaker 1: player in terms of the way he was playing at
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Speaker 1: that event. You can get him right now thirty to one,
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Speaker 1: And to me, part of it is like, how's his game? Well?
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Speaker 1: At riv he finished T seven and last week at Bayhill,
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Speaker 1: of course it was extremely challenging and breaking a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys mentally. And if you look at that leader board,
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Speaker 1: you know, beside ox, Shay and Berger, obviously Burger's coming
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Speaker 1: back from injury, I mean octually has been pretty good.
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Speaker 1: It was a lot of Ludvigs and Morikawa's guys who
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Speaker 1: we would say, like if they win a major this
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Speaker 1: year or next year, would not be shocking at all.
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Speaker 1: And Cam Young was right there T three. So to me,
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that I'm going to bet outright to
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Speaker 1: win this tournament. I have no problem. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of people the sexy pick is gonna be Morikawa,
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna ride Cam Young on this tournament.
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Speaker 1: Another guy to finish top ten and listen, you can
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Speaker 1: get Morikawa to finish top ten plus one ninety on
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Speaker 1: hot rock bet. I like that as well. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's a guy when he's trending great iron player, has
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Speaker 1: a lot of momentum and confidence right now after that
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Speaker 1: Pebble win feels like a different player. This was a guy.
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Speaker 1: This guy right now is who like Keegan and everyone
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Speaker 1: tried to sell us on when they selected him to
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Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup, though the guy we had watched during
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five did not look like this guy. And
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Speaker 1: I've said it all the time. When he's on and
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Speaker 1: playing well, he is clearly one of our best players.
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Speaker 1: And he's just a dominant force because how consistently hits
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Speaker 1: fairways and how dominant of an iron player he is.
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Speaker 1: So I I plus one ninety top ten. To me,
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Speaker 1: that's not I'll bet this sounds a little crazy, but
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Speaker 1: this guy lives in Florida, he has actually played. I
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Speaker 1: remember watching him at Torrey Pines in his first event
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Speaker 1: Koepka and thinking, God, he is hitting the ball great.
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Speaker 1: He putted like mir you it was an abomination. And
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Speaker 1: then a couple of weeks ago at the Cognizant he
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Speaker 1: finished in the top ten. He had a couple of
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Speaker 1: really low rounds. To me, it's all about the putting,
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Speaker 1: because from a ball striking standpoint, he's another guy that
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Speaker 1: would not shock me if he just puts like above average.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be number one in putting for
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Speaker 1: the week. But if he is just solid with how
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Speaker 1: well he's been playing Teta Green, it would not shock
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Speaker 1: me at all if Kopka is a force in this tournament.
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Speaker 1: This is why he came back for these events. He
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Speaker 1: is a bright lights guy. Obviously the four Majors, he
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Speaker 1: was in the major's whether he came back to the
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Speaker 1: PGA Tour or not, he came back to the PGA Tour.
12:03
Speaker 1: Let's be real, for like four or five events, right,
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Speaker 1: waste management, the players Memorial, maybe the playoffs just because
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Speaker 1: you can win a lot of money, not because they
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Speaker 1: feel that big. But this is clearly one of the
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Speaker 1: events that he came back for. And this is also
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Speaker 1: one of the talking points and we'll get into role
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Speaker 1: App of if you are going to make this a
12:22
Speaker 1: huge event, which one thing roll app was a huge
12:26
Speaker 1: part of in the NFL was creating things out of nothing,
12:30
Speaker 1: Like they created Thursday Night Football out of thin air.
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Speaker 1: They've created these international games and built on and built
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Speaker 1: on to where it's going to be a television package
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Speaker 1: out of nothing. The games already existed. How can we
12:44
Speaker 1: package this to make it a big deal, to make
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Speaker 1: it more financially viable. And this is a tournament like
12:51
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour doesn't own any of the majors, so
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Speaker 1: waste has already kind of taken on a life of
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Speaker 1: its own, right, how can we elevate this thing? So
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Speaker 1: when Brand goes on this rant about the fifth Major
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Speaker 1: and he's kind of pushing that, I go wouldn't shock
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Speaker 1: me at all if if roll app kind of tapped
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Speaker 1: him in the ass on that one. Now we can
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Speaker 1: argue if fifth Major one, all four majors are not
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Speaker 1: the same. I mean, there's one major that is not
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Speaker 1: like the other three. If I meet you and I
13:17
Speaker 1: say I won the Masters, you would say that's the
13:21
Speaker 1: crowning achievement in golf. If I say, hey, I won
13:24
Speaker 1: the British Opener they call it the Open at the
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Speaker 1: Old Course or at one of these famous venues across
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Speaker 1: the pond, you are a legend in European golf. And
13:34
Speaker 1: if you win the US Open, you would go, how
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Speaker 1: good is that guy? Right? How much talent does this
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Speaker 1: guy have to win the hardest tournament of the year. Right?
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Speaker 1: To me, the PGA is not in the conversation with
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Speaker 1: those You could argue the PGA is not any different
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Speaker 1: than the players. I'd argue, depending on where they're playing
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Speaker 1: for the PGA the players is a better event because
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Speaker 1: it's a more entertaining course to watch on television. Like,
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Speaker 1: not to diminish Xander at all, but when he won
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Speaker 1: in Kentucky the year Scotty got arrested, like that tournament
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Speaker 1: on television was like, Eh, pretty meh, right, listen, I
14:12
Speaker 1: lived in the Berry for a long time. I'm from
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Speaker 1: northern California. I've played Harding Park four or five times.
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Speaker 1: It's okay if you told me the first time I
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Speaker 1: ever played Harding Park this is going to be a
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Speaker 1: major venue. I'd be like, Eh, Olympic Clubs right across
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Speaker 1: the street. That feels like a major venue when you
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Speaker 1: play it. Harding Park doesn't necessarily, and there's nothing wrong
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Speaker 1: with that. Like Colin Moore Cowell one of his two
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Speaker 1: majors at Harding Park, you get the same amount of credit.
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Speaker 1: But my point is not all events are the same.
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Speaker 1: You win this year at Shinnacock, you win at Pebble
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Speaker 1: Beach for the US Open, it feels way bigger than
14:47
Speaker 1: some of these random PGA Tour events. And I think,
14:50
Speaker 1: ultimately my point is they're just trying to elevate the
14:53
Speaker 1: players because they're trying to elevate their events. There's not
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Speaker 1: that much going on right now in the middle of March,
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Speaker 1: right Free agency basically ended on Monday, and it's not
15:02
Speaker 1: like you can watch free agency. You're basically just waiting
15:04
Speaker 1: for Schefter to tweet. March maddness still a couple weeks away,
15:07
Speaker 1: Like you're not really competing with other people. You know.
15:11
Speaker 1: The NBA season's kind of in this weird law, still
15:14
Speaker 1: kind of just trying to get to the playoffs. You know,
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Speaker 1: Baseball hasn't started though. The WBC is kind of sick.
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Speaker 1: I just think that the PGA Tour is trying to
15:24
Speaker 1: do everything possible to make this event as big as possible,
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Speaker 1: and it is a big event, and that's where to
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Speaker 1: me Koepka. I just think at his odds at fifty
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Speaker 1: to one, with his history of playing well in massive events.
15:38
Speaker 1: I mean, for like a four year run, the guy
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Speaker 1: was so fucking nails in majors. I'm not even talking
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Speaker 1: about all the ones he won. I'm talking about the ones.
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Speaker 1: I mean the one, the Tiger one in nineteen he
15:46
Speaker 1: was right there in the mix. He had won a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think was that the one
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Speaker 1: Scottie or that was the one rom One. He was
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Speaker 1: in the last group with him, so he's going to
15:57
Speaker 1: be a factor that there was no question about. And
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Speaker 1: I just think that these odds to me fifty to one,
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Speaker 1: top ten, top twenty, I think is very very interesting.
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Speaker 1: And then Thgala, who was injured last year, was not
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Speaker 1: playing well, has clearly found something and you can get
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Speaker 1: him six to one to finish top ten. So my
16:17
Speaker 1: favorite bet in terms of an outright again outrights are
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Speaker 1: hard here, no Scottie, no Rory injured, not touching Xander.
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Speaker 1: I'm just I understand taking Colin. I'm not gonna do it.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with cam Young at thirty to one.
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Speaker 1: So it's basically plus three thousand and Marikawa plus one
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Speaker 1: ninety to top ten. Kopka a little bit of a flyer,
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Speaker 1: I don't mind. Thagala is a flyer, but definitely as
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Speaker 1: a top ten or top twenty. So I'm excited for
16:44
Speaker 1: this tournament. I enjoy this tournament. It is just it
16:48
Speaker 1: looks awesome on television, so I just think there's something
16:52
Speaker 1: about the holes. Obviously seventeen is one of the most iconic,
16:55
Speaker 1: but to me, eighteen is badass, right. I mean, it's
16:59
Speaker 1: just one of those whole where it just I've never
17:02
Speaker 1: played TVC sawgrass and I think it's like a thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars to play right now. It just always looks so
17:08
Speaker 1: challenging off the tee and that the one of the
17:10
Speaker 1: shots is going viral right now on the Internet. Is
17:12
Speaker 1: Tiger hitting that stinger kind of that low draw, you know,
17:15
Speaker 1: up the fairway. It just looks sick. It does. A
17:18
Speaker 1: lot of guys blow it into the pine straws. If
17:21
Speaker 1: you get too greedy and you duck hook it, you're
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Speaker 1: in the water. I remember a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: the year JT one, he hit three wood and it
17:29
Speaker 1: looked off the tee like he had hooked it into
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Speaker 1: the water and he got lucky it like barely hit
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Speaker 1: over the wood that kind of lines the grass and
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Speaker 1: the lake. I think it's always cool about the Florida
17:40
Speaker 1: Swing two with like gators in the background. There's just
17:43
Speaker 1: there's something awesome about this tournament. And that's where I think,
17:46
Speaker 1: you know who Roll app who's going to talk on Wednesday,
17:48
Speaker 1: has just an incredible opportunity to remake this whole thing.
17:52
Speaker 1: You know, this is not football, basketball, or baseball, where
17:55
Speaker 1: even if you do tweaks, there's only so much you
17:58
Speaker 1: can do. Like I said, with football, the tweaks they
18:00
Speaker 1: made were just to take already existing games and just
18:03
Speaker 1: put them on a different day. It's not like they
18:06
Speaker 1: changed the sport, right that they just took the inventory
18:09
Speaker 1: and made it a bigger deal, made it appointment television,
18:13
Speaker 1: made it in prime time. And that's what I'm fascinated
18:15
Speaker 1: to see what this guy's gonna do. How can you
18:17
Speaker 1: tweak this to make these events feel bigger. I mean,
18:20
Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys clearly on this tour that are
18:22
Speaker 1: pissed off because they're gonna get the short end of
18:24
Speaker 1: the stick. He is going to try to limit the
18:28
Speaker 1: amount of guys who can play for big time money.
18:31
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm adamant they should keep cuts in every event.
18:35
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are there's something special
18:38
Speaker 1: about golf of like, if you play shitty, you do
18:40
Speaker 1: not get paid. Now, if you're one of the top guys,
18:42
Speaker 1: you're getting paid off the course by your sponsors, but
18:45
Speaker 1: in terms of revenue coming into your pocket from that weekend,
18:50
Speaker 1: you miss the cut, you get no money. And I
18:53
Speaker 1: think there's always something special, Like it's golf. You can
18:55
Speaker 1: play shitty, you can be out. That's kind of what
18:57
Speaker 1: makes football cool, right, This isn't a seven game. See
19:00
Speaker 1: you have a bad half in a January playoff game,
19:03
Speaker 1: you can lose, even if you're the number one seed.
19:05
Speaker 1: We've seen number one seeds lose all the time. Swhite's
19:08
Speaker 1: never really bothered me about like the match play argument
19:12
Speaker 1: that you know, they've canceled the match play in Texas
19:14
Speaker 1: because a lot of the sponsors goes it's too random.
19:17
Speaker 1: And Rory and Scottie and Tiger back in the day
19:20
Speaker 1: and Speed and all these big players that drive revenue
19:23
Speaker 1: on television that we want to put on, you know,
19:26
Speaker 1: the telecast on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. If they lose
19:29
Speaker 1: on Wednesday or Thursday, we're kind of fucked. I'm like,
19:31
Speaker 1: Gues's kind of golf. It's kind of the business we're
19:33
Speaker 1: in and that's what makes it fun. So I'm just
19:36
Speaker 1: fascinated to see what he's gonna do. I would expect
19:40
Speaker 1: some some major cages to be rattled, and I would
19:43
Speaker 1: expect because he kind of has a blank canvas to
19:46
Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. Now, obviously, you're not just gonna
19:49
Speaker 1: completely overhaul. I mean, the courses are kind of the
19:51
Speaker 1: courses and it'll be interesting. Like he's big on trying
19:54
Speaker 1: to go to bigger cities, right, He's already in Los Angeles,
19:59
Speaker 1: He's already you know, in areas in Texas. He's here
20:02
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, you know, obviously New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, like
20:06
Speaker 1: yearly spots in some of the bigger cities in America.
20:11
Speaker 1: To me, feels like a destiny that he's going to
20:14
Speaker 1: ride because he's seen it with television ratings for football
20:17
Speaker 1: when the Bears were involved this year, the ratings were huge.
20:20
Speaker 1: Why Because it's one of the biggest cities in America, right,
20:23
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have been one of the biggest
20:25
Speaker 1: brands in the league for decades. Well, it's a top
20:28
Speaker 1: five market in America, so you just get more people involved.
20:32
Speaker 1: You can still go to some of the smaller areas.
20:35
Speaker 1: But I do agree with him in terms of the
20:38
Speaker 1: market size is a smart move. But I do think
20:42
Speaker 1: it's better for the viewer. If there's something on the
20:44
Speaker 1: line to make it to the weekend, that you should
20:47
Speaker 1: be able to get cut. And that'll be fascinating to
20:49
Speaker 1: see where they where they come on that one, because
20:53
Speaker 1: I'm even last week at Arnold Palmer they cut how
20:56
Speaker 1: many guys like ten to fifteen guys Like, I'm fine
20:59
Speaker 1: with that. If you're gonna have a smaller field of
21:00
Speaker 1: seventy or eighty, like fifty or sixty guys should make
21:04
Speaker 1: it the weekend, not everyone automatically. So if you shoot
21:07
Speaker 1: an eighty on Thursday, it's like, oh, it doesn't matter.
21:09
Speaker 1: I can still battle my way back up and not
21:12
Speaker 1: finish DFL. So I'm gonna be fascinated to see what
21:15
Speaker 1: happens there. Last week, ok, Shay in a very very
21:18
Speaker 1: entertaining Sunday against Daniel Berger. It looked like he was
21:22
Speaker 1: dead and out and then he started going on a
21:24
Speaker 1: birdie rampage on the back and he birdied ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
21:28
Speaker 1: thirty four holes in a row. Hit probably the shot
21:30
Speaker 1: of his life on pretty short par five, but he
21:34
Speaker 1: knocked it a couple of feet, which I think was
21:37
Speaker 1: obviously the pivotal moment for him because they were tied
21:39
Speaker 1: at the end of regulation and then he wins in
21:41
Speaker 1: extra holes. Very cool moment and to me, and I
21:44
Speaker 1: tweeted this out, I'm not comparing Ocshay to Jordan, but
21:48
Speaker 1: there is some parallels to Speeed of like on any
21:52
Speaker 1: hole with Okshay, he could blast it into the into
21:56
Speaker 1: the parallel hole and having to hit it around a
21:59
Speaker 1: tree and grind to make a bogie, or he can
22:01
Speaker 1: hit a two feet and have a tap in birdie,
22:03
Speaker 1: like you have no clue what's coming at any moment,
22:06
Speaker 1: and he's a He's just a very entertaining player to
22:09
Speaker 1: watch when he's on. I think the Gala falls under
22:12
Speaker 1: that a little bit too, is they are just wild carts.
22:16
Speaker 1: I mean, anything can happen at any moment. That's what
22:19
Speaker 1: kind of makes Scotty for being an all time great
22:21
Speaker 1: player kind of boring. Like when he's on, he's just
22:23
Speaker 1: Pepper's fair ways. He hits it relatively close to the uh,
22:28
Speaker 1: you know, to the pin, and he makes a lot
22:30
Speaker 1: of birdies. It's not part of what Tiger and Phil
22:34
Speaker 1: that made them just all time great entertainers is crazy
22:39
Speaker 1: shit could happen at any moment. I mean Tiger was
22:42
Speaker 1: all over the place off the tee. Phil was notorious
22:45
Speaker 1: for doing crazy stuff around the greens. Some of Tiger's
22:48
Speaker 1: most iconic shots or round trees over trees, you know,
22:52
Speaker 1: part of Scotty, like what are his iconic shots like
22:55
Speaker 1: hitting five irons seven feet right from two hundred and
22:57
Speaker 1: ten yards. It's it's just a little different. So I'm
23:01
Speaker 1: all for the entertainment value of some guys like Oxhay,
23:05
Speaker 1: So give me more Aukha. One thing that went viral
23:08
Speaker 1: yesterday in the golf world was Gary Woodland, who won
23:12
Speaker 1: the US Open, I think in twenty nineteen. I attended
23:15
Speaker 1: that actually on Friday at Pebble Beach, and obviously that
23:20
Speaker 1: moment changed his life. And then it came out a
23:23
Speaker 1: couple years later that he had a lesion on his
23:25
Speaker 1: brain and he needed to have brain surgery, which was
23:29
Speaker 1: obviously a very scary time anytime they have to open
23:31
Speaker 1: up your cranium. Came out of brain surgery. By all accounts,
23:36
Speaker 1: he was doing well. They were able to remove it,
23:39
Speaker 1: and he sat down with the Golf Channel at the
23:43
Speaker 1: Players and said he's not doing well. And when I
23:47
Speaker 1: first saw he said I'm not doing well, I assumed
23:50
Speaker 1: that he was going to say that the lesion has
23:52
Speaker 1: grown back, I'm gonna need another surgery. I have to
23:56
Speaker 1: go through this again. And that's not what he said,
23:59
Speaker 1: He said that he has been diagnosed with PTSD and
24:04
Speaker 1: part of it. Anyone that followed his story back when
24:06
Speaker 1: he had the legion, one thing it made him do
24:08
Speaker 1: was like really jumpy, really anxious, kind of scared, struggling
24:11
Speaker 1: to carry his emotions. And I guess part of this
24:15
Speaker 1: surgery is the area in your brain of anxiety. And
24:21
Speaker 1: he would be crying on the golf course. He would
24:23
Speaker 1: be terrified when guys were behind him. He had PTSD,
24:26
Speaker 1: no different than a combat vet did, and it was
24:29
Speaker 1: really difficult to watch. He told a story at the
24:32
Speaker 1: Waste Management this year when the cop that followed his
24:35
Speaker 1: group came up to him at the end and said, Hey,
24:38
Speaker 1: can I talk to you? And it turned out the
24:40
Speaker 1: cop had been in Afghanistan and said, you remind me
24:43
Speaker 1: a lot of myself. And they just start talking it
24:46
Speaker 1: out and it just it's your heart hurts. I mean,
24:52
Speaker 1: the guy's a young family, he's already had the brain
24:55
Speaker 1: surgery to have PTSD, and as he said, you kind
24:58
Speaker 1: of I'm a golfer, how do I have PET? Like
25:01
Speaker 1: I'm talking to these combat vets, these guys that have
25:03
Speaker 1: been boots on the ground in the Middle East, and
25:06
Speaker 1: we both have the same thing going on, and they
25:08
Speaker 1: all say, and he reiterated, this is like, you cannot
25:12
Speaker 1: do this by yourself. You need to have help. And
25:15
Speaker 1: by all accounts, he has a lot of help. But
25:17
Speaker 1: you could see, I mean kind of the fear in
25:20
Speaker 1: his face and his eyes when he discussed this. If
25:22
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, just type in Gary Woodland Golf channel.
25:27
Speaker 1: It's like a twelve minute It's a very very powerful piece.
25:31
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Speaker 1: but the years to be short with kids, but nothing
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Speaker 1: will ever top being a father. Everyone says that they're like,
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Speaker 1: but no, I hear you. I mean that's been a
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28:11
Speaker 1: know last year you thought Live Golf had shown some growth.
28:14
Speaker 1: Last episode you mentioned what you thought of the new
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Speaker 1: CEO role app for the PGA Tour would do moving
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Speaker 1: forward given his NFL background. Curious what you'd think Live
28:24
Speaker 1: Golf should do given their new CEO is also from
28:27
Speaker 1: outside golf. Should they look to stage primetime events on Fox?
28:31
Speaker 1: Should they look to poach top ten players from the
28:34
Speaker 1: tour as opposed to the Thomas Deetree types? In a nutshell,
28:38
Speaker 1: what would you tell Scott O'Neill if you ask him
28:41
Speaker 1: the best plan of attack? Well, there's a simple reality,
28:46
Speaker 1: and this is what Live is never going to be
28:49
Speaker 1: able to overcome. Their events have no history. So like
28:53
Speaker 1: when Akshay wins Bayhill, there are twenty years where the
28:59
Speaker 1: highlights of Tiger winning, of Scotti Scheffler winning, like winning
29:04
Speaker 1: that event means something of Arnold Palmer greeting people coming
29:08
Speaker 1: off the fairway. Right when you win at the Players,
29:11
Speaker 1: there's this list from Phil to Tiger to Back to
29:15
Speaker 1: Freddy Couples to Greg Norman, do you name it. There's
29:18
Speaker 1: history behind the event. So when LIV plays in these events,
29:22
Speaker 1: Hong Kong Rom just wins, which is his first win
29:25
Speaker 1: on Live. He'd finished second like a million times. It's
29:29
Speaker 1: cool that he wins, and clearly he's playing well and
29:31
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be a guy that has a
29:32
Speaker 1: bunch of momentum, but it doesn't mean anything. Like part
29:35
Speaker 1: of Anthony Kim winning in Australia was not that he
29:39
Speaker 1: won some historic event like the actual event. Whether Anthony
29:43
Speaker 1: Kim would have won or Rom would have won, it
29:46
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But what made that moment so cool and
29:49
Speaker 1: so organic and so genuine was this guy had overcome
29:52
Speaker 1: a drug addiction, had been not playing golf for like
29:55
Speaker 1: over a decade and a half. It just beat Rom
29:59
Speaker 1: and Bryson on the golf course where he was down
30:02
Speaker 1: entering Sunday, not because you know, he woned Memorial where
30:06
Speaker 1: all the greats have won. So I just think you
30:09
Speaker 1: don't overcome that. And the other thing is at this
30:11
Speaker 1: point in time, they're not poaching any top guys, like
30:15
Speaker 1: people have kind of put their flag in, like their cruise,
30:17
Speaker 1: their crew. If anything, they're losing guys. Patrick Reed's out,
30:20
Speaker 1: Kep goes out. You know, I think Bryson is clearly
30:23
Speaker 1: on the fence. You know, Rom financially doesn't have a choice.
30:27
Speaker 1: If all things were equal, would he come back? I
30:31
Speaker 1: think what if your live what you attempt to do
30:33
Speaker 1: is try to do some sort of merger, right, But
30:37
Speaker 1: does the PGA Tour want to do that? Do they
30:39
Speaker 1: need to do that? When I was at the event
30:42
Speaker 1: with Colin being there was cool, a lot of people,
30:45
Speaker 1: good vibe, But like the actual golf tournament doesn't matter
30:49
Speaker 1: who wins and loses. It doesn't. And one thing I
30:52
Speaker 1: would just disagree is no one gives a shit about
30:54
Speaker 1: team golf. I know the players hype it up, but
30:57
Speaker 1: as a consumer, I do not care about team golf
30:59
Speaker 1: and random tournaments. I just don't, right, it's an individual sport.
31:04
Speaker 1: Now we have team events, the Ryder Cup, the President's Cup,
31:08
Speaker 1: the Zurich when you play with a partner, But like,
31:11
Speaker 1: this is an individual sport. No different tennis. There's a
31:14
Speaker 1: reason more people are watching Agasy play Sampras or you know,
31:19
Speaker 1: Nadal play Federer than you are watching doubles. Right, It's
31:24
Speaker 1: an individual sport and that's what separates it. So I
31:28
Speaker 1: don't really have any recommendation. They've already spent billions of
31:32
Speaker 1: dollars now, billions of dollars in them means nothing. I
31:36
Speaker 1: just I don't think there's much they could do, you know,
31:39
Speaker 1: and even if they stole let's say they stole tomorrow
31:41
Speaker 1: Rory rom and Colin Morikawa, more people would probably pay attention.
31:47
Speaker 1: But like, at the end of the day, their events
31:50
Speaker 1: don't have any history, and I just don't think, like,
31:53
Speaker 1: is this thing going to be around in twenty years
31:55
Speaker 1: to create that history. I don't think so. So I
31:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't really have any advice. Scott O'Neil is a high
32:01
Speaker 1: level guy, impressive. I admire that he took the gig.
32:05
Speaker 1: I think part of the reason he took the gig
32:06
Speaker 1: is he's not a golf guy. You know. Part of
32:08
Speaker 1: roll app taking the gig is twofold. One, the PGA
32:11
Speaker 1: Tours is well established and going nowhere, and they're already
32:13
Speaker 1: balls deep with all the money in this country right
32:16
Speaker 1: all the sponsors, they have standing relationships. And two, if
32:20
Speaker 1: he proves that he can take to the next level,
32:22
Speaker 1: he's gonna be, you know, a potential Roger Goodell replacement.
32:26
Speaker 1: Scott O'Neil's like, yeah, I'll take this challenge. I'm with
32:28
Speaker 1: these people that worth trillions of dollars. We already have
32:31
Speaker 1: people under contract. Let's roll. But it was that's a really,
32:35
Speaker 1: really hard job. As you know someone that does. You know,
32:38
Speaker 1: he's a basketball guy. He's worked in pro sports, American
32:42
Speaker 1: pro sports. If you don't really know golf, maybe he
32:45
Speaker 1: could go in there a little more bullish than me,
32:48
Speaker 1: or you would be knowing some of the deficiencies of
32:51
Speaker 1: like how are we gonna get over the hump? The
32:52
Speaker 1: other thing, Fox on primetime, Fox isn't just giving that
32:57
Speaker 1: real estate away right primetime. I'm during the right now
33:02
Speaker 1: they're playing March Madness, then they're playing baseball. They already
33:06
Speaker 1: have contracts with other people that have proven the rate
33:09
Speaker 1: on television, so that's another issue. The other thing is
33:14
Speaker 1: when you go international, which I understand they want to
33:17
Speaker 1: be kind of the international tour, you play when none
33:20
Speaker 1: of us can watch. It's one big advantage the PGA
33:23
Speaker 1: Tour has. They play in America, so when you want
33:26
Speaker 1: to watch Bayhill, it's just on in the afternoon on
33:28
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. Do you have any course recommendations areas
33:32
Speaker 1: you've lived that would you'd always recommend, like tracks that
33:35
Speaker 1: are not expensive but are just always in great condition
33:38
Speaker 1: and you swear by. My recommendation for you is Wine
33:42
Speaker 1: Valley Golf Club in Walla Walla, Washington, the other Wine
33:45
Speaker 1: country Lol. Excellent course and Little Notch and Till Notch
33:54
Speaker 1: wineries all around. Drew Bletsoe's Winery is there if you
33:57
Speaker 1: ever go. Obviously, book your tastings in advances and you
34:00
Speaker 1: can't go wrong with any place. But pro tip for
34:03
Speaker 1: when you golf at Wine Valley, say you're a local,
34:06
Speaker 1: they don't check your idea. The problem is, I would say,
34:11
Speaker 1: like Wenty this place in Livermore, California. It's basically between
34:17
Speaker 1: kind of like Oakland and San Jose. I would say
34:21
Speaker 1: it's kind of a gem. I was texting a buddy
34:23
Speaker 1: about it the other day. I was probably being too negative.
34:25
Speaker 1: It costs two hundred and forty dollars to play, so
34:28
Speaker 1: it's not one of those. Most of these gems at
34:32
Speaker 1: this point in time are not like the day's inn
34:34
Speaker 1: age of playing some gem for sixty seventy bucks is
34:38
Speaker 1: going to be difficult. Like you said, there are advantages
34:41
Speaker 1: when you're a local. I would say Yochidishi, which is
34:45
Speaker 1: up in northern California, kind of where I grew up, Davis.
34:48
Speaker 1: It's probably forty five minutes away. It's close to this
34:52
Speaker 1: little town called Esparto, which is a farming town. It's
34:57
Speaker 1: an Indian casino and they built a golf course I
35:00
Speaker 1: don't know ten fifteen years ago. Again, it's way more
35:03
Speaker 1: expensive than it used to be, but it's top notch.
35:06
Speaker 1: Couldn't recommend it enough. I mean, it's fantastic. I don't
35:10
Speaker 1: really have any gems where I live now in Arizona
35:13
Speaker 1: because that one they're all like so publicly discussed, and
35:18
Speaker 1: two they're all just expensive. So anyone that knows about
35:22
Speaker 1: a gem, I'm always interested. I remember when I lived
35:25
Speaker 1: in Walnut Creek in the Bay Area, I used to
35:28
Speaker 1: play at this golf course that was probably like thirty
35:32
Speaker 1: or forty dollars. This is probably twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen.
35:35
Speaker 1: I could just go out there on like a Wednesday
35:37
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, get a golf cart. I'd have the course
35:40
Speaker 1: to myself. I'd replay holes. I would just go out
35:43
Speaker 1: there sometimes for like two or three hours and play
35:45
Speaker 1: just countless holes. I would just I'd play one through nine,
35:48
Speaker 1: I'd go back and play holes. I'd jump around. I
35:51
Speaker 1: don't even I'd have some days where I probably played
35:53
Speaker 1: twenty seven holes. And I remember post twenty twenty going
35:57
Speaker 1: out there one time. One it was like I earned
36:00
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars to play. It wasn't that nice of
36:02
Speaker 1: a course, and Tuo was packed. So I just think
36:04
Speaker 1: we live in a different world when it comes to
36:06
Speaker 1: the costs of random public golf courses that used to
36:10
Speaker 1: be cheap. My son is also named Jack. Congrats on
36:13
Speaker 1: the kid. My question is why does TGL of cities
36:16
Speaker 1: tied to the teams All the matches are played at
36:18
Speaker 1: the same location. There is no home field advantage. Are
36:21
Speaker 1: we supposed to care about the teams because of the
36:23
Speaker 1: city they were tied to. I think that was the idea.
36:27
Speaker 1: This is the back to the teams thing. This is
36:29
Speaker 1: like to live the four aces, whether you're you know,
36:32
Speaker 1: La Golf or Jupiter Links. I just think they're trying
36:36
Speaker 1: to put a name on it. Hopefully then you sell
36:37
Speaker 1: merch like it's all tied to money. I think that's
36:41
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you're watching Jupier Links,
36:44
Speaker 1: you're really just there to watch, like Tiger and Max Elma, right.
36:48
Speaker 1: I know Tiger plays sparingly, you know what I mean.
36:51
Speaker 1: So I think it's just part of branding. It's just
36:53
Speaker 1: probably business, one on one branding, and then you can
36:56
Speaker 1: sell more than I think it's because, I mean, some
37:00
Speaker 1: of these guys that play for you name the team
37:02
Speaker 1: don't even live in the area, like Keegan is the
37:06
Speaker 1: captain or maybe Rory is of the Boston team, Like
37:09
Speaker 1: all those guys live in Florida. Shit, they all live
37:11
Speaker 1: in Jupiter. So I just think it's a it's a branding,
37:15
Speaker 1: financial sales tactic. You should do instant reactions to golf tournaments,
37:22
Speaker 1: similar to how you and Colin go live after the
37:25
Speaker 1: three point thirty window on football. We have discussed that
37:29
Speaker 1: and sitting here on Tuesday, maybe we will do it
37:32
Speaker 1: for the players on Sunday. One thing, you know, to
37:35
Speaker 1: keep my marriage and having a young child. She's more
37:38
Speaker 1: into golf now than definitely she was a couple of
37:40
Speaker 1: years ago, just because it's on year round in my home.
37:43
Speaker 1: She's cool. She's a big football person, so she's final
37:46
Speaker 1: with football, but she just never understands, like, how's there's
37:48
Speaker 1: more golf on this week. I'm like, well, there's golf
37:50
Speaker 1: on every week, there's golf on next week, there's golf
37:54
Speaker 1: on the following week, and then the Masters, and then
37:57
Speaker 1: we got Harbortown. You know, it's a rotation. So you
38:01
Speaker 1: got a there's a balance to my life. But I
38:06
Speaker 1: definitely think the majors and the players I think would
38:10
Speaker 1: fall under that and potentially something else. So keep an
38:13
Speaker 1: eye on that. That's a good idea that we have
38:15
Speaker 1: definitely discussed. So happy the podcast is back. Most golf
38:18
Speaker 1: media just blows smoke up everyone's ass. You mentioned Charlie Woods,
38:21
Speaker 1: and ironically Cover three's last podcast also mentioned it in
38:25
Speaker 1: the last few seconds of their show. I think that's
38:28
Speaker 1: like Danny Canell and the guys I've watched your stuff.
38:30
Speaker 1: Apparently two of the biggest selling points from what they
38:33
Speaker 1: said were one, Florida State is not the easiest place
38:36
Speaker 1: for media to get unless you're a local. In Two,
38:40
Speaker 1: the course is private, so we can actually practice in peace. Honestly,
38:44
Speaker 1: two things I'd never thought of to factor into recruiting,
38:47
Speaker 1: but also makes total sense. At UVA, you could be
38:50
Speaker 1: on the range or course right next to all the
38:53
Speaker 1: actual players. Yeah, where I grew up. I mean, UC
38:56
Speaker 1: Davis is not on Florida State's level, but they just
38:59
Speaker 1: practice it like the local country club in Davis. You know,
39:02
Speaker 1: when I was a president of state, same thing, right,
39:04
Speaker 1: some of these Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt. When I got married,
39:09
Speaker 1: we played at Vanderbilt's course. They have We saw Peyton
39:12
Speaker 1: Manning and Vanderbilt's area. I guess like a he's a
39:15
Speaker 1: member at the course called Legends. They have their own
39:18
Speaker 1: area in the practice facility that the average member just
39:22
Speaker 1: couldn't walk to. So I do think that's a big
39:24
Speaker 1: selling point. Obviously, Charlie's at a fame level, right John Day.
39:28
Speaker 1: I would imagine Arkansas has a course, Oklahoma State has
39:31
Speaker 1: a course I think part of it is if you're
39:33
Speaker 1: gonna practice, you just want your own space. Arizona State,
39:37
Speaker 1: at Papago there is a fence and their areas on
39:40
Speaker 1: the other side of the fence, and Papago is just
39:42
Speaker 1: a public course, though these guys have access probably every
39:44
Speaker 1: course in the area, but they just have their own
39:46
Speaker 1: area that no one can bother them. That if you
39:49
Speaker 1: want to eat lunch, if you want to get treatment,
39:51
Speaker 1: if you want to just hit balls, if you want
39:52
Speaker 1: to putt, you're not around. You know, some twenty seven
39:55
Speaker 1: handicap seventeen course lights in trying to pick your brain
39:58
Speaker 1: about his putting stroke, and I can't imagine if you're
40:01
Speaker 1: Charlie that way. And let's face it, Florida State's just
40:05
Speaker 1: a really good golf program. Like I was. We were
40:07
Speaker 1: watching it Bayhill on my couch with the baby, and Maria.
40:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, She's like, Daniel, here's Daniel Berger. I'm like, oh,
40:13
Speaker 1: he's kept his teammate at Florida State. Like Florida State,
40:16
Speaker 1: big time golf program, now getting Miles Russell, Charlie Woods. Listen,
40:20
Speaker 1: I John Daly, who was in the mix for a
40:22
Speaker 1: minute at the Puerto Rico Open if you are playing
40:26
Speaker 1: in the SEC or the ACC, so North Carolina, Clemson,
40:30
Speaker 1: you know, Miami, all those I don't know if Miami's
40:32
Speaker 1: good at golf, but obviously Florida State. If you're on
40:35
Speaker 1: the top five, like you are a big time player.
40:38
Speaker 1: So when John Daly was in the mix, if you're
40:40
Speaker 1: like if you're the one or two on an SEC program,
40:43
Speaker 1: like you're really good, right. So like when John Daly
40:46
Speaker 1: was playing well and I watched him on Saturday, John
40:49
Speaker 1: Daily is second, like he's he's a high end guy.
40:53
Speaker 1: Now is he gonna make it the PGA Tour? I
40:55
Speaker 1: don't know, but like he's become a really really good player,
41:00
Speaker 1: because how could you not if you're playing at these
41:02
Speaker 1: SEC programs against all these other pros, Like it's gonna
41:05
Speaker 1: be kind of inevitable when you look at the lists.
41:08
Speaker 1: Sometimes with these college tournaments, it's like a poor man's
41:11
Speaker 1: version of the Corn Ferry Tour. Do you know anyone
41:15
Speaker 1: that hits their irons and wedges as far as PJA
41:17
Speaker 1: pros but hits the driver like an am? Of course
41:21
Speaker 1: I'm not as dialed as a pro, but I hit
41:22
Speaker 1: my five iron consistently two hundred and twenty yards, Yet
41:26
Speaker 1: if I get all of my drive, it's about two
41:28
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five yards. I'm typically two hundred and
41:30
Speaker 1: fifty two hundred and seventy yard driver. Why do you
41:33
Speaker 1: think that is? I tend to use my more accurate
41:36
Speaker 1: five iron off the tee on a lot of holes
41:38
Speaker 1: because it's safer and can still get me out there
41:41
Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards. But it's annoying because in theory,
41:43
Speaker 1: I should be able to hit them ball three hundred yards.
41:46
Speaker 1: I would imagine I'm gonna look at this picture. It
41:48
Speaker 1: look like a good you know, maybe former athletic guy.
41:52
Speaker 1: Most of these guys like remove like Bryson. If you
41:56
Speaker 1: just got like Colin Moore Cowa or Brian Harmon or
42:00
Speaker 1: just a lot of guys Tommy Fleetwood, it's not like
42:03
Speaker 1: they hit their eight iron two hundred yards. So most people,
42:06
Speaker 1: if you're just if you're a single digit handicap or
42:09
Speaker 1: decent player, and you know you have some power and
42:12
Speaker 1: then some ball speed and some clubhead speed, like most
42:16
Speaker 1: of our shots go relatively close. Right If I hit
42:19
Speaker 1: an eight iron and Scotty hits an eight iron, right,
42:22
Speaker 1: and I'm technically on paper right now, at three. I
42:25
Speaker 1: probably I've played one time and since the baby, and
42:28
Speaker 1: I shot ninety So I'm probably like a fifteen handicap.
42:31
Speaker 1: But in terms of distance, it's never been my problem.
42:34
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Like I hit an eight iron,
42:36
Speaker 1: My stock eight iron's like one sixty five. Maybe Scotty's
42:40
Speaker 1: stock eight irons one seventy two. Like, there's not that
42:44
Speaker 1: big of a difference. Now, the driver's definitely a difference,
42:46
Speaker 1: right I fly my driver, I'm probably with you two
42:49
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five the two hundred and seventy five
42:51
Speaker 1: yards if it's if it's hard fareways, I'm hitting the
42:54
Speaker 1: ball three hundred yards. If it's soft fairways, I'm hitting
42:56
Speaker 1: it two hundred eight yards. But I don't hit it
42:59
Speaker 1: pure every time, Honestly, I hit it peer once every
43:01
Speaker 1: three times. So that's part of it. They consistently strike
43:04
Speaker 1: the ball at the center of the club base where
43:07
Speaker 1: you know, if you I don't know what your handicap is,
43:09
Speaker 1: but we just do not. But in terms of if
43:11
Speaker 1: you just get a pretty good player who swings it hard,
43:14
Speaker 1: who's an athletic guy, his five iron, it's not like
43:17
Speaker 1: his five iron is gonna go that much different than
43:20
Speaker 1: Xander Schaffle. Now, the one main difference they can control it.
43:24
Speaker 1: They can work the ball both ways. They can hit
43:26
Speaker 1: it high, they can hit it low. But it's not
43:28
Speaker 1: like they hit a five iron two hundred and seventy
43:30
Speaker 1: five yards, right, It's not like they hit a sand
43:32
Speaker 1: wedge one hundred and sixty yards. So you get to
43:35
Speaker 1: the point where most now the driver and I would
43:38
Speaker 1: say a three wood are clubs that kind of go
43:41
Speaker 1: different distances. But most of these guys are hitting similar
43:46
Speaker 1: clubs to most just random good players that are just
43:51
Speaker 1: amateurs out there swinging around with like irons and wedges.
43:56
Speaker 1: They just control it better. They have much better feel,
44:00
Speaker 1: they have the ability to work the ball. So there
44:03
Speaker 1: are just levels to this. But in terms of distance,
44:08
Speaker 1: most guys, for a decent player or maybe a club more.
44:12
Speaker 1: Do you use a golf app to track your scores?
44:15
Speaker 1: I just use like the you know, my gin handicap,
44:19
Speaker 1: which is USGA GEN that I get through TPC that
44:25
Speaker 1: they set up, which is I mean, it's the most
44:29
Speaker 1: preposterous thing going right now. It says I'm a says
44:33
Speaker 1: I'm a two point six. The sad part is before
44:37
Speaker 1: Little Jack, I was I was playing great golf. I
44:41
Speaker 1: really was. I right round Thanksgiving seventy nine, seventy nine,
44:46
Speaker 1: seventy six, seventy nine, seventy six. I was striking it well.
44:49
Speaker 1: I was just I was feeling good. I was hitting
44:51
Speaker 1: the ball far, short game was good. And then a
44:55
Speaker 1: month and a half later I shot eighty nine. And
44:57
Speaker 1: that was basically almost twenty twenty plus days ago. So
45:02
Speaker 1: I've played one time since basically January first, and shot
45:06
Speaker 1: eighty nine. So I listen recommendation anyone that loves playing
45:10
Speaker 1: golf single enjoy it. As everyone told me, enjoy it
45:14
Speaker 1: while you can. I'm like, I'll play it. You just
45:17
Speaker 1: aren't able to play as much. God I miss it.
45:20
Speaker 1: I really I miss playing well. I'm shooting eighty nine
45:22
Speaker 1: kind of sucked. Mail back question, who are middle coops
45:26
Speaker 1: picks at this point to win all four majors? Let's
45:29
Speaker 1: end on this. I would have said a Locke. To
45:33
Speaker 1: start the season. I would said Scotty's gonna win a major,
45:36
Speaker 1: maybe two. And I think Rory, once you get that
45:38
Speaker 1: monkey off your back winning the Masters, he easily could
45:41
Speaker 1: have won multiple majors over the last cup. Rory's gonna
45:43
Speaker 1: win a major. I would say those guys are gonna
45:45
Speaker 1: win majors, and then you flip a coin house fleet
45:48
Speaker 1: would look in John Rahm, Bryson. At this point in time,
45:54
Speaker 1: I still, I guess, would pick Scotty to win a major,
45:57
Speaker 1: but it does feel a little off right. And even
46:02
Speaker 1: less than six days ago, I would have said Rory's
46:04
Speaker 1: gonna win a major. But now he's injured. So I'm
46:08
Speaker 1: not pivoting off those guys, but I don't feel as
46:12
Speaker 1: confident I would say John Rahm. I would be stunned
46:17
Speaker 1: if there is not a major, if not multiple majors,
46:20
Speaker 1: where John Rahm is not a major factor on the
46:22
Speaker 1: weekend this year, I would expect him to be a
46:24
Speaker 1: factor at Augusta. I would expect him to be a
46:29
Speaker 1: factor at the US Open. I would expect him. I
46:32
Speaker 1: don't even know where's the PGA champion is ironomic this
46:35
Speaker 1: year in Philly. I think Colin more Cow is a
46:38
Speaker 1: guy who's definitely trending. He has played, I mean a
46:41
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He's right in the mix of Augusta.
46:43
Speaker 1: Ludwig's played the Master twice in top ten. He looked
46:46
Speaker 1: fantastic last week at API. So one thing the Majors
46:49
Speaker 1: has really kind of turned into I know JJ spawn
46:52
Speaker 1: was somewhat of an outlier last year, but it's been
46:55
Speaker 1: a lot of scott He's been a lot of Rory's,
46:57
Speaker 1: It's been you know, Bryson's Xanders, Like it's a big
47:01
Speaker 1: swinging dick contest. I'd say cam Young would be a
47:04
Speaker 1: guy that I definitely think could win a Major this year.
47:08
Speaker 1: Like I said Marikawa, I would have said Fleetwood for
47:11
Speaker 1: sure at the end of twenty twenty five. Definitely looks
47:14
Speaker 1: a little off right now, but I don't think you
47:17
Speaker 1: could go wrong with the top group of four or
47:19
Speaker 1: five guys. I mean, if if Scotty is healthy and
47:22
Speaker 1: just can kind of figure out whatever's going on, and
47:24
Speaker 1: obviously if Rory's back's fine, I don't see how they
47:27
Speaker 1: don't win a major. I would have said one of those.
47:29
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shocked me at off. Rory would have defended
47:31
Speaker 1: at the Masters. I think he's gonna have a ton
47:33
Speaker 1: of momentum. He's a huge, like crowd favored now in
47:37
Speaker 1: terms of like everyone is gonna be rooting for him
47:39
Speaker 1: to like chase history. Yeah, he would definitely be a
47:44
Speaker 1: guy I would love to see speed, but I don't.
47:48
Speaker 1: I don't have much faith there. I listen, if Kopka
47:52
Speaker 1: can just put a little bit, I wouldn't stun me
47:54
Speaker 1: at all. If he's a factor in these things, I
47:56
Speaker 1: hope he Is' is more entertaining when he is kind
47:59
Speaker 1: of really little, his scowl, I mean, he's a fucking
48:03
Speaker 1: bright lights guy. I'm I'm. I've always rooted for athletes
48:06
Speaker 1: that are bright lights guys. Right. I'm not rooting for
48:09
Speaker 1: James Harden. I'm rooting for Steph Curry. So Cam Young
48:13
Speaker 1: that would probably be my sleeper this year. Cam Young
48:15
Speaker 1: would be I think Cam Young can win a major
48:17
Speaker 1: for sure. The volume m