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🎶 The Music of Sally Kemp · The Sheppertonian (for Shepperton village)

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  www.thesheppertonian.uk.
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  in
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  this
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  episode
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  we
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  meet
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  Sally
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  Kemp,
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  a
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  Sheppertonian
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  songwriter
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  and
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  singer
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  whose
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  musical
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  journey
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  spans
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  decades
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  and
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  whose
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  creative
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  spark
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  has
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  reignited
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  in
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  recent
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  years.
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  After
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  many
• 1:31
  years
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  in
• 1:31
  what
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  she
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  describes
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  as
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  musical
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  hibernation,
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  Sally
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  found
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  herself
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  inspired
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  to
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  start
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  writing
• 1:37
  songs
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  again.
• 1:38
  She
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  she
• 1:38
  revisited
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  old
• 1:39
  material,
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  songs
• 1:40
  she
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  wrote
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  from
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  the
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  1970s
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  onwards
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  that
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  had
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  once
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  lived
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  on
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  reel
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  to
• 1:44
  reel
• 1:45
  tapes,
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  had
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  them
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  restored
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  and
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  released
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  as
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  an
• 1:47
  album
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  called
• 1:48
  Songs
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  From
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  Then.
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  I
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  can't
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  keep
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  it
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  to
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  myself
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  because
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  it's
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  eating
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  up
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  my
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  heart
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  and
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  it's
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  only
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  my
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  uncertainty
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  that's
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  keeping
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  us
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  apart
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  but
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  now
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  I
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  know
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  for
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  sure
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  Yes,
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  I
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  know
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  for
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  sure.
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  Alongside
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  her
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  rediscovered
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  catalogue,
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  she's
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  writing
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  new
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  music,
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  including
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  a
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  song
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  called
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  Don't
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  Look
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  Away,
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  due
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  for
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  release
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  on
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  Friday
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  27th
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  February.
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  Written
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  to
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  bring
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  attention
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  to
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  hungry
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  and
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  deprived
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  children
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  around
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  the
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  world,
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  Sally's
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  return
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  to
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  songwriting
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  didn't
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  begin
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  with
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  a
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  big
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  announcement
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  or
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  long
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  term
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  plan.
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  It
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  started
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  quietly
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  by
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  listening.
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  Well,
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  it
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  was
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  2021,
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  there
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  was
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  a
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  climate
• 2:46
  change
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  conference,
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  there's
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  COP26
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  I
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  think.
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  And
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  because
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  it
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  was
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  in
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  Glasgow,
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  there
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  was
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  publicity
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  in
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  this
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  country
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  and
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  so
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  we
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  were
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  subjected
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  to
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  it
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  on
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  the
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  radio
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  because
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  I
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  listened
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  to
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  a
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  lot
• 3:00
  of
• 3:00
  radio,
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  I
• 3:01
  was
• 3:01
  soaking
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  it
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  all
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  up
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  and
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  I
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  suddenly
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  thought,
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  I'm
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  sure
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  I
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  wrote
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  a
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  song
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  about
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  this
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  very
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  subject
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  way
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  back
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  in
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  the
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  70s.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  had
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  a
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  root
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  around,
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  dug
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  out
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  the
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  lyrics
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  and
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  I
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  couldn't
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  remember
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  the
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  tune
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  and
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  I
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  also
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  wanted
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  to
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  tweak
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  it
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  a
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  bit.
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  So
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  I
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  rewrote
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  verses
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  and
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  invented
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  a
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  tune
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  quickly.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  not
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  that
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  long
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  after
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  the
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  pandemic
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  had
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  started,
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  so
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  it
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  was
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  sort
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  of
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  quite
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  good
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  to
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  keep
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  myself
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  occupied.
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  And
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  then
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  a
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  friend
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  years
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  after
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  that
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  wrote
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  a
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  book
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  about
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  her
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  turbulent
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  marriage
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  to
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  an
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  artist
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  and
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  I
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  thought
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  lovely
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  title.
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  I
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  read
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  the
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  book
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  and
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  I
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  thought,
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  God,
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  I'm
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  going
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  To
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  have
• 3:50
  a
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  go
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  at
• 3:51
  condensing
• 3:52
  that
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  long
• 3:53
  story
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  into
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  a
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  few
• 3:54
  verses
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  of
• 3:55
  song.
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  And
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  it
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  was
• 3:56
  great.
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  It
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  gave
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  me
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  my
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  discipline
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  back.
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  It.
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  It
• 4:00
  got
• 4:00
  me
• 4:01
  thinking
• 4:01
  again
• 4:01
  and
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  enjoyed
• 4:03
  it.
• 4:03
  That
• 4:03
  idea
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  discipline
• 4:04
  comes
• 4:05
  up
• 4:05
  again
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  again
• 4:05
  when
• 4:06
  Sally
• 4:06
  talks
• 4:06
  about
• 4:07
  writing,
• 4:07
  both
• 4:08
  then
• 4:08
  and
• 4:08
  now.
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  think
• 4:10
  mainly
• 4:10
  I'd
• 4:11
  lost
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  discipline
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  of
• 4:13
  sitting
• 4:14
  down
• 4:14
  and
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  hadn't
• 4:15
  played
• 4:15
  the
• 4:16
  guitar.
• 4:17
  Mostly
• 4:17
  in
• 4:17
  songwriting,
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  get
• 4:18
  an
• 4:19
  idea
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  play
• 4:20
  with
• 4:20
  it.
• 4:20
  You
• 4:21
  sit
• 4:21
  down,
• 4:21
  try
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  stick
• 4:22
  it
• 4:23
  together.
• 4:24
  But
• 4:24
  it
• 4:24
  is
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  hell
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  a
• 4:25
  lot
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  discipline
• 4:26
  just
• 4:27
  making
• 4:27
  yourself
• 4:27
  sit
• 4:28
  down
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  if
• 4:29
  necessary,
• 4:29
  staring
• 4:30
  at
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  sheet
• 4:30
  of
• 4:31
  paper
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  just
• 4:32
  getting
• 4:32
  on
• 4:32
  with
• 4:32
  it.
• 4:33
  And
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  think
• 4:34
  most
• 4:34
  writers
• 4:34
  would
• 4:35
  probably
• 4:35
  tell
• 4:35
  you
• 4:35
  that
• 4:37
  unless
• 4:37
  I'm
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  exception,
• 4:38
  I
• 4:38
  don't
• 4:39
  think
• 4:39
  I'm
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  exception.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:40
  it's
• 4:41
  fine
• 4:41
  that,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  know,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  get
• 4:42
  up
• 4:42
  from
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  chair
• 4:42
  and
• 4:42
  you
• 4:43
  go
• 4:43
  make
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  cup
• 4:43
  of
• 4:43
  tea
• 4:44
  and
• 4:44
  come
• 4:44
  back
• 4:44
  and
• 4:44
  have
• 4:45
  another
• 4:45
  go.
• 4:46
  And
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  enjoyed
• 4:47
  it.
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  actually
• 4:48
  found
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  was
• 4:48
  enjoying
• 4:49
  doing
• 4:49
  it.
• 4:49
  It
• 4:49
  was
• 4:50
  making
• 4:50
  me
• 4:51
  use
• 4:51
  my
• 4:51
  brain
• 4:52
  again,
• 4:52
  which
• 4:52
  was
• 4:52
  good.
• 4:53
  Recently,
• 4:53
  Sally
• 4:54
  released
• 4:54
  an
• 4:54
  album
• 4:55
  called
• 4:55
  Songs
• 4:55
  From
• 4:56
  Then,
• 4:56
  made
• 4:56
  up
• 4:56
  of
• 4:57
  recordings
• 4:57
  from
• 4:57
  earlier
• 4:58
  in
• 4:58
  her
• 4:58
  life.
• 4:59
  Listening
• 4:59
  back
• 5:00
  after
• 5:00
  many
• 5:00
  years
• 5:00
  brought
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  mix
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  reflection
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  surprise.
• 5:03
  I
• 5:04
  don't
• 5:04
  listen
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  them
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  great
• 5:05
  deal,
• 5:05
  and
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  haven't
• 5:05
  listened
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  them
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  great
• 5:06
  deal
• 5:06
  over
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  years.
• 5:08
  Just
• 5:08
  when
• 5:08
  the
• 5:09
  occasional
• 5:09
  relative
• 5:10
  says,
• 5:10
  oh,
• 5:10
  do
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  remember
• 5:11
  this?
• 5:11
  And
• 5:12
  let's
• 5:12
  hear
• 5:12
  it.
• 5:13
  So.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:13
  I'd
• 5:13
  never
• 5:14
  done
• 5:14
  anything
• 5:14
  about,
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  know,
• 5:16
  promoting
• 5:16
  them
• 5:16
  or
• 5:18
  sort
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  pushing
• 5:18
  them
• 5:19
  in
• 5:19
  any
• 5:19
  way,
• 5:19
  but
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  did
• 5:21
  listen
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  them
• 5:21
  again
• 5:22
  on
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  old
• 5:22
  reel
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  reel
• 5:23
  tapes,
• 5:23
  and
• 5:23
  I
• 5:24
  actually
• 5:24
  enjoyed
• 5:24
  them.
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  thought,
• 5:25
  they're
• 5:26
  not
• 5:26
  actually
• 5:26
  that
• 5:27
  bad
• 5:27
  because
• 5:28
  you're
• 5:28
  always
• 5:28
  worried
• 5:29
  about
• 5:29
  your
• 5:29
  own
• 5:29
  writing,
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  think.
• 5:31
  So
• 5:31
  you
• 5:32
  always
• 5:32
  think
• 5:32
  there's
• 5:33
  always
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  bit
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  imposter
• 5:34
  syndrome,
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  think,
• 5:35
  oh,
• 5:35
  gosh.
• 5:36
  Anyway,
• 5:37
  I
• 5:37
  thought,
• 5:37
  well,
• 5:37
  before
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  get
• 5:38
  too
• 5:38
  much
• 5:39
  older,
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  might
• 5:40
  as
• 5:41
  well
• 5:41
  get
• 5:41
  them
• 5:41
  out
• 5:41
  there
• 5:41
  and
• 5:42
  just
• 5:42
  see
• 5:42
  what
• 5:42
  occurs,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  know,
• 5:44
  and
• 5:44
  people
• 5:45
  who
• 5:45
  like
• 5:45
  them
• 5:46
  or
• 5:46
  they
• 5:46
  won't
• 5:46
  like
• 5:46
  them,
• 5:47
  but
• 5:48
  it'll
• 5:48
  be
• 5:48
  worth
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  go.
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  was
• 5:49
  at
• 5:49
  my
• 5:50
  sister's
• 5:50
  house
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  few
• 5:51
  weeks
• 5:52
  ago
• 5:53
  and
• 5:53
  my
• 5:54
  nephew
• 5:55
  said,
• 5:55
  they've
• 5:55
  got
• 5:56
  Alexa
• 5:56
  sitting
• 5:56
  in
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  corner
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  blooming
• 5:58
  room.
• 5:59
  And
• 5:59
  he
• 5:59
  said,
• 5:59
  alexa,
• 6:00
  play
• 6:00
  Sally
• 6:01
  Kemp's
• 6:01
  songs
• 6:02
  from
• 6:02
  then.
• 6:03
  And
• 6:03
  it
• 6:03
  did.
• 6:04
  Oh,
• 6:04
  cool.
• 6:05
  Probably
• 6:05
  set
• 6:06
  off
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  load
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  Alexas.
• 6:07
  Now
• 6:08
  we're
• 6:09
  not
• 6:09
  in
• 6:09
  this
• 6:09
  house.
• 6:09
  Yeah,
• 6:10
  but.
• 6:11
  God,
• 6:11
  yeah,
• 6:12
  it
• 6:13
  was
• 6:13
  quite
• 6:13
  something,
• 6:13
  actually.
• 6:15
  It's
• 6:15
  quite
• 6:15
  scary,
• 6:16
  but
• 6:16
  it
• 6:16
  was
• 6:17
  quite
• 6:17
  nice,
• 6:17
  you
• 6:17
  know,
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  can't
• 6:19
  deny
• 6:19
  it.
• 6:19
  It
• 6:19
  was
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  nice
• 6:20
  feeling.
• 6:21
  Did
• 6:21
  anything
• 6:21
  about
• 6:22
  them
• 6:22
  surprise
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  when
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  listen
• 6:24
  back?
• 6:25
  Yes,
• 6:25
  I
• 6:26
  suppose
• 6:26
  the
• 6:27
  Sound
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  my
• 6:27
  voice
• 6:28
  was
• 6:28
  a
• 6:29
  lot
• 6:29
  higher
• 6:29
  than
• 6:29
  I
• 6:30
  thought
• 6:30
  it
• 6:30
  would
• 6:30
  be
• 6:30
  because
• 6:31
  it's
• 6:31
  dropped
• 6:31
  considerably
• 6:32
  over
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  years.
• 6:33
  But,
• 6:34
  yeah,
• 6:35
  that
• 6:35
  did
• 6:35
  surprise
• 6:36
  me.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  thought,
• 6:37
  gosh,
• 6:37
  how
• 6:38
  did
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  get
• 6:38
  up
• 6:38
  there?
• 6:38
  Which.
• 6:42
  Voice
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  change
• 6:43
  all
• 6:43
  become
• 6:44
  part
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  story,
• 6:45
  but
• 6:45
  not
• 6:46
  obstacles.
• 6:46
  Because
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  haven't
• 6:47
  sung
• 6:48
  for
• 6:48
  such
• 6:48
  a
• 6:48
  long
• 6:48
  time,
• 6:49
  I've
• 6:49
  lost
• 6:49
  the
• 6:50
  elasticity,
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  suppose,
• 6:51
  in
• 6:52
  my
• 6:52
  voice.
• 6:52
  So
• 6:53
  anything
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  do,
• 6:55
  if
• 6:55
  I'm
• 6:55
  going
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  stretch
• 6:55
  it
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  bit,
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  have
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  work
• 6:56
  out.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  suppose
• 6:57
  I'm
• 6:58
  writing
• 6:58
  for
• 6:58
  a
• 6:59
  lower
• 7:00
  register,
• 7:00
  you
• 7:01
  know,
• 7:01
  it's
• 7:01
  something
• 7:01
  that's
• 7:02
  just.
• 7:02
  I'm
• 7:03
  going
• 7:03
  with
• 7:03
  what
• 7:03
  I've
• 7:03
  got.
• 7:04
  Earlier
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  her
• 7:05
  career,
• 7:05
  Sally
• 7:06
  spent
• 7:06
  years
• 7:06
  touring,
• 7:07
  working
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  wine
• 7:08
  bars,
• 7:08
  doing
• 7:08
  session
• 7:09
  work
• 7:09
  across
• 7:09
  a
• 7:10
  wide
• 7:10
  range
• 7:10
  of
• 7:10
  styles.
• 8:21
  I
• 8:22
  was
• 8:22
  on
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  road
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  lot
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  my
• 8:23
  early
• 8:24
  career
• 8:25
  with
• 8:25
  groups,
• 8:26
  with
• 8:26
  various
• 8:26
  bands,
• 8:27
  and
• 8:27
  then
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  started
• 8:28
  doing
• 8:29
  a
• 8:29
  lot
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  stuff
• 8:30
  because
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  wanted
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  stay
• 8:30
  home
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  bit
• 8:31
  more.
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  went
• 8:32
  into
• 8:33
  wine
• 8:33
  bars
• 8:33
  and
• 8:34
  very
• 8:35
  smoky
• 8:35
  joints
• 8:35
  because
• 8:36
  everywhere
• 8:36
  there
• 8:36
  was
• 8:37
  smoking
• 8:37
  in
• 8:37
  those
• 8:37
  days.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  then
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  doing
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  lot
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  session
• 8:40
  work
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  loved
• 8:41
  it,
• 8:42
  it
• 8:42
  was
• 8:42
  great.
• 8:43
  But
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  in
• 8:44
  itself
• 8:44
  gives
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  a
• 8:45
  lot
• 8:45
  of
• 8:45
  discipline
• 8:45
  because
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  got
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  turn
• 8:47
  up
• 8:47
  on
• 8:47
  time
• 8:47
  for
• 8:47
  a
• 8:48
  session.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  suppose
• 8:49
  I've
• 8:49
  been
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  little
• 8:50
  bit
• 8:50
  lax
• 8:50
  in.
• 8:51
  You
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  when
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  do
• 8:52
  your
• 8:52
  own
• 8:52
  thing,
• 8:52
  you
• 8:52
  don't
• 8:53
  worry
• 8:53
  about
• 8:53
  stuff
• 8:53
  like
• 8:53
  that.
• 8:54
  But
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  discipline
• 8:55
  of
• 8:55
  working
• 8:55
  in
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  studio
• 8:57
  most
• 8:57
  days,
• 8:58
  it
• 8:58
  did
• 8:58
  help,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  gave
• 8:59
  me
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  discipline
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  enjoyed
• 9:02
  it,
• 9:03
  met
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  lot
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  interesting
• 9:04
  people.
• 9:04
  But
• 9:04
  with
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  session
• 9:05
  work,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  didn't
• 9:06
  know
• 9:06
  what
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  were
• 9:06
  going
• 9:06
  to
• 9:06
  get.
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  mean,
• 9:07
  it
• 9:08
  would
• 9:08
  be
• 9:08
  anything
• 9:08
  from
• 9:09
  reggae.
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  did
• 9:11
  a
• 9:11
  lot
• 9:11
  of
• 9:11
  reggae,
• 9:12
  which
• 9:12
  was
• 9:13
  brilliant,
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  then
• 9:16
  you'd
• 9:17
  get
• 9:17
  another
• 9:17
  chord
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  you'd
• 9:18
  find
• 9:18
  yourself
• 9:18
  in
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  studio
• 9:19
  with
• 9:19
  people
• 9:20
  like
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  probably
• 9:21
  never
• 9:21
  heard
• 9:21
  of.
• 9:22
  Now,
• 9:22
  Armando
• 9:22
  Ross,
• 9:23
  he
• 9:23
  had
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  big,
• 9:23
  big
• 9:24
  orchestra,
• 9:24
  you
• 9:24
  know,
• 9:24
  and
• 9:25
  it
• 9:25
  was
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  Latin
• 9:25
  orchestra
• 9:26
  and
• 9:27
  one
• 9:27
  of
• 9:27
  my
• 9:28
  Latin
• 9:28
  heroes.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  course,
• 9:29
  I
• 9:30
  got
• 9:30
  into
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  studio
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  discovered
• 9:31
  it
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  him.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:33
  there
• 9:33
  were
• 9:33
  about
• 9:33
  six
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  us
• 9:34
  singing.
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  was
• 9:35
  given
• 9:35
  a
• 9:36
  sheet
• 9:36
  of
• 9:36
  paper
• 9:36
  with
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  million
• 9:37
  dots
• 9:38
  on
• 9:38
  it,
• 9:39
  and
• 9:39
  panic
• 9:40
  sets
• 9:40
  in.
• 9:40
  Oh,
• 9:41
  my
• 9:41
  God.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:42
  so
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  do
• 9:42
  everything,
• 9:43
  you
• 9:43
  know,
• 9:43
  straight
• 9:44
  away.
• 9:44
  You
• 9:44
  get
• 9:44
  one
• 9:44
  quick
• 9:45
  run
• 9:45
  through
• 9:45
  and
• 9:45
  then
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  do
• 9:46
  it.
• 9:47
  So
• 9:47
  it
• 9:48
  ranged
• 9:48
  from
• 9:49
  reggae,
• 9:49
  where
• 9:49
  it
• 9:49
  was
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  little
• 9:50
  bit
• 9:50
  more
• 9:50
  free
• 9:50
  and
• 9:50
  easy,
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  something
• 9:51
  like
• 9:52
  that,
• 9:52
  very
• 9:52
  disciplined,
• 9:54
  lots
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  notes
• 9:55
  on
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  page,
• 9:55
  and
• 9:56
  trying
• 9:56
  to
• 9:57
  fight
• 9:57
  your
• 9:57
  way
• 9:57
  through
• 9:57
  it.
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  have
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  be
• 9:59
  honest,
• 9:59
  I'm
• 9:59
  sure
• 10:00
  sometimes,
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  mean,
• 10:01
  fortunately,
• 10:01
  I
• 10:02
  had
• 10:02
  a
• 10:02
  little
• 10:02
  bit
• 10:02
  of
• 10:03
  musical
• 10:03
  nous,
• 10:04
  so
• 10:04
  maybe
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  didn't
• 10:05
  exactly
• 10:06
  follow
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  dots
• 10:07
  as
• 10:07
  it
• 10:07
  was,
• 10:08
  but
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  got
• 10:09
  away
• 10:09
  with
• 10:09
  it,
• 10:09
  I
• 10:10
  think.
• 10:10
  Yes.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:11
  then
• 10:11
  the
• 10:12
  fact
• 10:12
  that
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  was
• 10:12
  still
• 10:12
  working
• 10:13
  in
• 10:13
  wine
• 10:13
  bars
• 10:13
  and
• 10:14
  breathing
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  all
• 10:15
  that
• 10:15
  smoke
• 10:16
  really
• 10:16
  took
• 10:16
  its
• 10:16
  toll.
• 10:17
  And
• 10:18
  eventually
• 10:18
  I
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  trying
• 10:19
  to
• 10:19
  sing
• 10:20
  one
• 10:20
  night
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  thought,
• 10:22
  God,
• 10:22
  what's
• 10:22
  that?
• 10:22
  That's
• 10:23
  just
• 10:23
  come
• 10:23
  out
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  my
• 10:23
  mouth.
• 10:24
  This
• 10:24
  weird
• 10:24
  sound
• 10:24
  had
• 10:25
  come
• 10:25
  out
• 10:26
  over
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  period
• 10:26
  of
• 10:27
  about
• 10:27
  two
• 10:27
  weeks.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:28
  became
• 10:28
  quite
• 10:28
  scared
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  sing
• 10:29
  because
• 10:29
  I
• 10:30
  didn't
• 10:30
  know
• 10:30
  what
• 10:30
  was
• 10:30
  going
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  come
• 10:31
  out
• 10:31
  of
• 10:31
  my
• 10:31
  mouth.
• 10:32
  It
• 10:33
  had
• 10:33
  damaged
• 10:34
  vocal
• 9:24
  cords.
• 10:35
  Coming
• 10:35
  back
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  songwriting
• 10:36
  also
• 10:37
  led
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  something
• 10:37
  new.
• 10:38
  I
• 10:39
  was
• 10:39
  listening
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  a
• 10:39
  Radio
• 10:40
  4
• 10:40
  Today
• 10:41
  programme
• 10:41
  one
• 10:42
  morning
• 10:42
  and
• 10:42
  I
• 10:43
  switched
• 10:43
  on,
• 10:43
  of
• 10:43
  course,
• 10:44
  almost
• 10:44
  at
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  end
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  an
• 10:45
  interview
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  was
• 10:46
  being
• 10:46
  given
• 10:46
  with
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  spokesman
• 10:47
  from
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  charity,
• 10:48
  a
• 10:48
  children's
• 10:48
  charity.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  don't
• 10:50
  know
• 10:50
  which
• 10:50
  one
• 10:51
  it
• 10:51
  was,
• 10:51
  but
• 10:51
  I
• 10:52
  think
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  know
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  presenter.
• 10:53
  It
• 10:53
  was
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  lady
• 10:53
  presenter.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  she
• 10:55
  asked
• 10:56
  him
• 10:56
  what.
• 10:56
  When
• 10:57
  people
• 10:57
  were
• 10:57
  seeing
• 10:57
  all
• 10:58
  these
• 10:58
  horrible
• 10:58
  images
• 10:59
  and
• 11:00
  photographs
• 11:01
  and,
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  know,
• 11:02
  being
• 11:02
  bombarded
• 11:03
  with
• 11:03
  it
• 11:03
  in
• 11:04
  your
• 11:04
  homes
• 11:05
  through
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  television,
• 11:06
  what
• 11:06
  would
• 11:06
  be
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  one
• 11:07
  thing
• 11:07
  you
• 11:07
  would
• 11:07
  ask
• 11:07
  of
• 11:08
  them?
• 11:08
  And
• 11:08
  he
• 11:08
  said,
• 11:09
  just
• 11:09
  don't
• 11:09
  look
• 11:09
  away.
• 11:11
  And
• 11:12
  it
• 11:12
  resonated
• 11:13
  with
• 11:13
  me
• 11:13
  and
• 11:13
  I
• 11:13
  just.
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  couldn't
• 11:14
  get
• 11:14
  those
• 11:14
  words
• 11:15
  out
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  my
• 11:15
  head.
• 11:16
  So
• 11:16
  in
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  couple
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  weeks
• 11:17
  I
• 11:18
  sat
• 11:18
  down,
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  thought,
• 11:19
  well,
• 11:19
  give
• 11:19
  it
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  go,
• 11:20
  see
• 11:21
  what
• 11:21
  comes
• 11:21
  out
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  it.
• 11:22
  Because
• 11:23
  it's
• 11:23
  always
• 11:24
  mostly
• 11:25
  for
• 11:25
  me,
• 11:25
  it's
• 11:25
  an
• 11:25
  idea,
• 11:26
  a
• 11:26
  title
• 11:26
  that
• 11:27
  gets
• 11:27
  you
• 11:27
  going.
• 11:28
  So
• 11:28
  wrote
• 11:28
  about
• 11:29
  this,
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  I
• 11:29
  think
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  important
• 11:30
  thing
• 11:31
  is
• 11:31
  it's
• 11:31
  not
• 11:31
  just
• 11:32
  that
• 11:33
  there's
• 11:33
  poverty
• 11:34
  all
• 11:34
  over
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  world.
• 11:35
  It's
• 11:35
  here,
• 11:36
  right
• 11:36
  here
• 11:36
  as
• 11:37
  well,
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  know,
• 11:38
  probably
• 11:39
  even
• 11:39
  closer
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  home
• 11:40
  than
• 11:40
  we
• 11:40
  like
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  think.
• 11:41
  And
• 11:42
  it
• 11:43
  came
• 11:43
  out
• 11:43
  actually
• 11:44
  quite
• 11:44
  easy,
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  song,
• 11:45
  and
• 11:45
  I
• 11:45
  enjoyed
• 11:46
  writing
• 11:46
  it.
• 11:46
  The
• 11:47
  song
• 11:47
  Don't
• 11:47
  Look
• 11:47
  Away
• 11:48
  was
• 11:48
  recorded
• 11:48
  with
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  CAST
• 11:49
  Youth
• 11:49
  Theatre
• 11:50
  Group
• 11:50
  here
• 11:50
  in
• 11:50
  Shepparton
• 11:51
  with
• 11:51
  the
• 11:52
  intention
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  raising
• 11:53
  money
• 11:53
  for
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  children's
• 11:54
  charity.
• 11:55
  The
• 11:55
  CAST
• 11:56
  Youth
• 11:56
  Theatre
• 11:57
  group
• 11:57
  very
• 11:58
  generously
• 11:58
  gave
• 11:59
  their
• 11:59
  time
• 11:59
  and
• 12:00
  their
• 12:00
  talent,
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  we
• 12:01
  went
• 12:01
  down
• 12:02
  there
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  recorded
• 12:02
  it.
• 12:03
  Gareth,
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  know,
• 12:04
  you've
• 12:04
  mixed
• 12:05
  it
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  made
• 12:05
  it
• 12:05
  sound
• 12:06
  pretty
• 12:06
  damn
• 12:06
  good,
• 12:07
  I
• 12:07
  think.
• 12:08
  And
• 12:08
  so
• 12:08
  the
• 12:09
  intention
• 12:09
  is
• 12:09
  to
• 12:10
  get
• 12:10
  it
• 12:11
  out
• 12:11
  there,
• 12:11
  try
• 12:11
  and
• 12:12
  make
• 12:12
  some
• 12:12
  money
• 12:12
  for
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  children's
• 12:13
  charity.
• 12:14
  We
• 12:14
  haven't
• 12:15
  quite
• 12:15
  decided
• 12:15
  which
• 12:16
  one
• 12:16
  yet,
• 12:17
  but
• 12:17
  we
• 12:17
  will
• 12:18
  do
• 12:18
  very
• 12:18
  soon.
• 12:19
  So
• 12:19
  we've
• 12:19
  got
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  get
• 12:20
  it
• 12:20
  out
• 12:20
  onto
• 12:20
  social
• 12:20
  media.
• 12:21
  That
• 12:21
  is
• 12:22
  something
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  haven't
• 12:22
  done
• 12:23
  before,
• 12:23
  so
• 12:23
  it's
• 12:24
  all
• 12:24
  new
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  me.
• 12:24
  I
• 12:25
  always
• 12:25
  used
• 12:25
  to
• 12:25
  think
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  was
• 12:26
  reasonably
• 12:27
  technically
• 12:27
  savvy,
• 12:28
  but
• 12:28
  I've
• 12:29
  realised.
• 12:30
  I've
• 12:31
  realised
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  haven't
• 12:31
  got
• 12:31
  a
• 12:32
  clue.
• 12:33
  I
• 12:33
  press
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  buttons
• 12:34
  when
• 12:34
  it
• 12:35
  says,
• 12:35
  do
• 12:35
  this,
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  that's
• 12:36
  going
• 12:36
  to
• 12:36
  happen
• 12:36
  and
• 12:36
  I
• 12:37
  press
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  button
• 12:37
  and
• 12:37
  something
• 12:37
  totally
• 12:38
  different
• 12:38
  happens.
• 12:39
  And
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  have
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  say,
• 12:40
  if
• 12:41
  it
• 12:41
  wasn't
• 12:41
  for
• 12:41
  you,
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  don't
• 12:43
  know
• 12:43
  where
• 12:44
  I'd
• 12:44
  be
• 12:44
  with
• 12:44
  it.
• 12:45
  But
• 12:46
  it's
• 12:46
  been
• 12:46
  interesting
• 12:47
  fun
• 12:48
  and
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  am
• 12:49
  learning
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  little
• 12:49
  bit
• 12:49
  and
• 12:50
  some
• 12:50
  of
• 12:50
  it
• 12:50
  is
• 12:50
  going
• 12:50
  in
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  staying
• 12:51
  there.
• 12:52
  But
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  am
• 12:54
  very
• 12:54
  reliant
• 12:55
  on
• 12:56
  people
• 12:56
  who
• 12:56
  know
• 12:56
  what
• 12:56
  they're
• 12:57
  doing.
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  asked
• 12:58
  Sally
• 12:58
  what
• 12:58
  she
• 12:59
  hopes
• 12:59
  people
• 12:59
  will
• 12:59
  feel
• 13:00
  when
• 13:00
  they
• 13:00
  hear
• 13:00
  Don't
• 13:01
  Look
• 13:01
  Away.
• 13:01
  I
• 13:02
  hope
• 13:02
  it
• 13:02
  pricks
• 13:03
  their
• 13:03
  conscience
• 13:03
  a
• 13:04
  little
• 13:04
  bit
• 13:05
  because
• 13:05
  we
• 13:06
  are,
• 13:07
  myself
• 13:08
  included,
• 13:08
  pretty
• 13:09
  complacent.
• 13:09
  We
• 13:09
  have
• 13:10
  fairly
• 13:10
  easy
• 13:10
  lives
• 13:11
  and
• 13:12
  we
• 13:13
  just
• 13:13
  don't
• 13:13
  think
• 13:13
  about
• 13:14
  these
• 13:14
  poor
• 13:14
  people
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  these
• 13:15
  poor
• 13:15
  kids,
• 13:16
  you
• 13:17
  know,
• 13:17
  it's
• 13:17
  mainly.
• 13:17
  Well,
• 13:18
  everybody
• 13:18
  suffers,
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  grown
• 13:19
  ups
• 13:19
  suffer,
• 13:20
  but
• 13:20
  it's
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  kids
• 13:21
  that
• 13:22
  get
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  you,
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  know,
• 13:23
  isn't
• 13:24
  that
• 13:24
  not
• 13:24
  their
• 13:24
  fault?
• 13:25
  They
• 13:25
  don't
• 13:25
  stand
• 13:25
  a
• 13:26
  chance,
• 13:26
  poor
• 13:26
  little
• 13:26
  things.
• 13:27
  So
• 13:27
  I
• 13:28
  hope
• 13:28
  that
• 13:28
  it
• 13:28
  will,
• 13:29
  it
• 13:29
  will
• 13:30
  just
• 13:30
  cause
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  few
• 13:31
  people
• 13:31
  to
• 13:32
  have
• 13:32
  a
• 13:32
  think
• 13:33
  about
• 13:33
  it
• 13:33
  and
• 13:34
  maybe
• 13:34
  put
• 13:34
  their
• 13:34
  hands
• 13:35
  in
• 13:35
  their
• 13:35
  pockets.
• 13:36
  There's
• 13:36
  also
• 13:37
  something
• 13:37
  important
• 13:38
  about
• 13:38
  sharing
• 13:38
  this
• 13:39
  work
• 13:39
  locally.
• 13:40
  I've
• 13:40
  lived
• 13:40
  here
• 13:40
  now
• 13:41
  since
• 13:41
  2014
• 13:42
  permanently
• 13:43
  and
• 13:43
  I
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  love
• 13:44
  Shepperton.
• 13:45
  It's
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  great
• 13:46
  place.
• 13:46
  But
• 13:46
  I
• 13:47
  haven't
• 13:47
  really
• 13:48
  got
• 13:48
  too
• 13:49
  involved
• 13:49
  with
• 13:50
  stuff,
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  suppose
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  kept
• 13:51
  myself
• 13:52
  to
• 13:52
  myself,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:53
  doing
• 13:53
  up
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  house,
• 13:54
  sort
• 13:54
  of
• 13:55
  getting
• 13:55
  on
• 13:55
  with
• 13:55
  life.
• 13:56
  So
• 13:57
  I'm
• 13:57
  hoping
• 13:58
  that
• 13:59
  they
• 13:59
  may
• 13:59
  just
• 14:01
  take
• 14:01
  pity
• 14:01
  on
• 14:02
  me
• 14:02
  and
• 14:03
  perhaps
• 14:03
  play
• 14:03
  the
• 14:04
  songs
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  bit,
• 14:04
  you
• 14:05
  know,
• 14:05
  and
• 14:06
  play,
• 14:06
  play
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  song
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  bit.
• 14:07
  I
• 14:08
  would
• 14:08
  love
• 14:08
  to
• 14:08
  think
• 14:08
  that
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  community
• 14:10
  could
• 14:10
  get
• 14:10
  involved
• 14:11
  because,
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  know,
• 14:13
  all
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  proceeds
• 14:14
  from
• 14:14
  that
• 14:14
  single
• 14:15
  will
• 14:16
  go
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  children's
• 14:17
  charity.
• 14:17
  I'm
• 14:18
  not
• 14:18
  going
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  hike
• 14:18
  it
• 14:19
  in
• 14:19
  for
• 14:19
  myself
• 14:20
  and
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  hope
• 14:21
  that
• 14:22
  they'll
• 14:22
  come
• 14:22
  on
• 14:22
  board
• 14:22
  with
• 14:22
  it.
• 14:23
  I'm
• 14:23
  sure
• 14:23
  they
• 14:23
  will.
• 14:24
  From
• 14:24
  what
• 14:24
  I've
• 14:25
  seen
• 14:25
  from
• 14:25
  looking
• 14:26
  at
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  local
• 14:26
  Facebook
• 14:27
  page,
• 14:28
  they're
• 14:28
  pretty
• 14:28
  generous
• 14:29
  bunch
• 14:29
  around
• 14:29
  here.
• 14:30
  Before
• 14:30
  we
• 14:30
  finished,
• 14:30
  I
• 14:31
  asked
• 14:31
  Sally
• 14:31
  what
• 14:32
  she'd
• 14:32
  say
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  anyone
• 14:33
  with
• 14:33
  an
• 14:33
  old
• 14:33
  creative
• 14:34
  project
• 14:35
  tucked
• 14:35
  away.
• 14:36
  Oh,
• 14:36
  just,
• 14:38
  just
• 14:38
  sit
• 14:39
  down
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  start,
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  know,
• 14:40
  it's.
• 14:40
  It's
• 14:41
  always
• 14:41
  starting.
• 14:42
  It.
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:43
  the,
• 14:43
  the
• 14:43
  very
• 14:44
  first
• 14:44
  time
• 14:44
  you've
• 14:45
  got
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  sit
• 14:45
  down,
• 14:46
  make
• 14:46
  yourself
• 14:46
  sit
• 14:47
  down
• 14:47
  with
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  pen
• 14:47
  and
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  paper
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  get
• 14:48
  on
• 14:49
  with
• 14:49
  it.
• 14:49
  And,
• 14:49
  and
• 14:49
  that
• 14:50
  really
• 14:50
  is
• 14:50
  all
• 14:51
  it's
• 14:51
  all
• 14:51
  about.
• 14:51
  I'm
• 14:52
  sure
• 14:52
  there
• 14:52
  are
• 14:52
  loads
• 14:52
  of
• 14:52
  people
• 14:53
  around
• 14:53
  here
• 14:53
  with
• 14:53
  lots
• 14:54
  of
• 14:54
  stuff
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  say,
• 14:55
  lots
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  creative
• 14:56
  ideas,
• 14:57
  you
• 14:58
  know,
• 14:58
  just
• 14:58
  talking
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  people
• 14:59
  if
• 14:59
  you're
• 14:59
  out
• 15:00
  shopping.
• 15:01
  And
• 15:01
  some
• 15:01
  of
• 15:01
  these
• 15:01
  people,
• 15:02
  they
• 15:02
  make
• 15:02
  me
• 15:02
  laugh,
• 15:02
  you
• 15:03
  know,
• 15:03
  they've
• 15:03
  got
• 15:03
  stories
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  tell.
• 15:05
  But
• 15:05
  it
• 15:05
  really
• 15:06
  is
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  first
• 15:06
  step
• 15:06
  is
• 15:07
  just
• 15:07
  sitting
• 15:07
  down
• 15:07
  with
• 15:08
  a
• 15:08
  pen
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  paper
• 15:09
  making
• 15:09
  a
• 15:09
  plan.
• 15:10
  Or
• 15:11
  if
• 15:11
  you,
• 15:11
  you
• 15:11
  know,
• 15:12
  in
• 15:12
  my
• 15:12
  case,
• 15:12
  if
• 15:13
  you're
• 15:13
  going
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  write
• 15:13
  a
• 15:13
  song,
• 15:14
  sit
• 15:14
  down
• 15:14
  and
• 15:15
  wait
• 15:15
  until
• 15:15
  the
• 15:16
  first
• 15:16
  line
• 15:16
  comes.
• 15:16
  Or
• 15:16
  if
• 15:17
  you've
• 15:17
  got
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  first
• 15:17
  line,
• 15:17
  stick
• 15:18
  that
• 15:18
  down
• 15:18
  and
• 15:19
  just
• 15:19
  get
• 15:20
  on
• 15:20
  with
• 15:20
  it.
• 15:21
  Go
• 15:21
  make
• 15:21
  a
• 15:22
  cup
• 15:22
  of
• 15:22
  tea,
• 15:23
  have
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  walk
• 15:23
  around
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  room,
• 15:24
  but
• 15:24
  come
• 15:24
  back
• 15:24
  to
• 15:25
  it
• 15:25
  and
• 15:25
  make
• 15:26
  sure
• 15:26
  you
• 15:27
  so
• 15:27
  I'm
• 15:27
  going
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  spend
• 15:27
  two,
• 15:28
  three
• 15:28
  hours,
• 15:28
  I'm
• 15:28
  going
• 15:28
  to
• 15:29
  sit
• 15:29
  down
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  I'm
• 15:29
  going
• 15:29
  to
• 15:30
  work
• 15:30
  at
• 15:30
  it.
• 15:31
  And
• 15:31
  that
• 15:32
  applies
• 15:32
  now.
• 15:32
  It's
• 15:33
  always
• 15:33
  applied.
• 15:34
  And
• 15:34
  I
• 15:34
  bet
• 15:35
  it
• 15:35
  applies
• 15:35
  with
• 15:35
  you,
• 15:36
  too,
• 15:36
  Gareth.
• 15:39
  That
• 15:39
  was
• 15:40
  Sally
• 15:40
  Kemp.
• 15:40
  You'll
• 15:41
  find
• 15:41
  links
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  her
• 15:42
  new
• 15:42
  album,
• 15:42
  Songs
• 15:43
  From
• 15:43
  Then
• 15:43
  in
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  show
• 15:44
  notes.
• 15:44
  And
• 15:44
  my
• 15:45
  thanks
• 15:45
  again
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  businesses
• 15:46
  supporting
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  Sheppertonian
• 15:47
  via
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  Sheppertonian
• 15:48
  Business
• 15:48
  Club.
• 15:49
  Their
• 15:49
  support
• 15:50
  helps
• 15:50
  keep
• 15:50
  this
• 15:50
  podcast
• 15:51
  rooted
• 15:51
  in
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  community
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  allows
• 15:53
  it
• 15:53
  to
• 15:53
  continue
• 15:54
  episode
• 15:54
  by
• 15:54
  episode.
• 15:55
  I'm
• 15:55
  Gareth.
• 15:56
  This
• 15:56
  has
• 15:56
  been
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  Sheppertonian.
• 15:57
  Thanks
• 15:57
  for
• 15:58
  listening
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  see
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  around.