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Warner Bros. Rejects Paramount | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 2: December seventeen. Tonight, I believe six o'clock our time, we
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Another big bit of news to say the least has
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Speaker 2: to do with the entertainment industry, and most of us
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Speaker 2: are well how many people don't have Netflix out there,
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Speaker 2: and how many people don't watch the various streaming services.
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Speaker 3: So this is a story about Netflix.
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Speaker 2: Netflix, I think is the first and the best of
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Speaker 2: the major streaming services and has the best stuff going
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Speaker 2: and Warner Brothers Discovery. Warner Brothers Discovery is putting itself
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Speaker 2: up for sale. Well, yeah, it is because Netflix came
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Speaker 2: in and offered a ton of money and said, okay,
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Speaker 2: we'll buy you. And there was an agreement made and
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Speaker 2: the board of Warner Brothers said okay, and there's the deal. Now,
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Speaker 2: Paramount has been going after Netflix for a long time
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Speaker 2: and what they have done is they inaugurated a hostile takeover.
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Speaker 2: A hostile takeover is a company, usually a company going
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Speaker 2: directly to the shareholders, and this is of Warner brother
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Speaker 2: and going to the shareholders and saying we have a
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Speaker 2: better deal for you. And while the board of Netflix
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Speaker 2: has a tremendous say, it is the show shareholders who
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Speaker 2: must ratify any major move. It's that simple, especially something
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Speaker 2: of this magnitude. So Paramount is saying we're going to
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Speaker 2: give you a better deal, and you, the shareholders, should
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Speaker 2: vote our offer and let us let us buy.
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Speaker 3: And then now starts the fight.
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Speaker 2: The board usually goes in the way it initially sort
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Speaker 2: of leans to. In this case, the board of Warner
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Speaker 2: Brothers said, okay, we want Netflix. Paramount said, no, we
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Speaker 2: want to come in and here's our hostile takeover, and
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Speaker 2: they take out all kinds of ads and reach the shareholders.
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Speaker 2: At the same time, the board sends out emails and
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Speaker 2: missives to the shareholders and saying, oh, no, Paramount is
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Speaker 2: a horrible deal, even though in this case Paramount pays
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Speaker 2: more money. Usually, when a sale is made to another corporation,
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Speaker 2: and we're talking about stock, the corporation does not sell
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Speaker 2: itself until a huge premium is paid for stock. I mean,
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Speaker 2: people who own stock and a company is being sold,
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Speaker 2: they generally do very well because and the premiums can
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Speaker 2: be very healthy. And Paramount offered a premium. Now what
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Speaker 2: the board of Warner Brothers said, it really isn't the
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Speaker 2: premium because this is sleight of hand. What they're doing
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Speaker 2: is playing Monty three card Monty with you. The money
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Speaker 2: that Ellison who has come in and produced, really isn't money.
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Speaker 2: It is only promised to pay and there really isn't backing.
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Speaker 2: And you even look at Jared Kushner's fund, he is.
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Speaker 3: Involved with.
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Speaker 2: The the the Arab countries, and we're talking about Saudi
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Speaker 2: Arabia and the and the Emirates who pulled out. They
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Speaker 2: pulled out from the deal, and still Paramount is going
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Speaker 2: saying we were going to go forward. We have the money,
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Speaker 2: we're being backed by the Ellison family, and again we
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Speaker 2: don't know because it's all put into a revocable trust
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Speaker 2: that can be changed anytime. And as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 2: according to Warner Brothers, they brought out the language saying
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Speaker 2: that Paramount can change any terms at any time and
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Speaker 2: as telling as shareholders, you cannot sell to Paramount. So
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Speaker 2: we're in the middle of a battle that Netflix is
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Speaker 2: going to win.
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Speaker 3: Now is it good for the consumer?
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Speaker 2: Because Netflix is saying that when we buy with Netflix
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Speaker 2: is saying when we buy Warner Brothers, it's going to
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Speaker 2: be more product, it'll be less cost, you will have
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Speaker 2: more choice, And they left out the phrase and this
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Speaker 2: is all a croc because none of this is going
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Speaker 2: to happen when mergers of this magnitude take place.
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Speaker 3: No, generally, it's not a good idea.
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Speaker 2: Now, Paramount did something else too, because the Ellisons are
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Speaker 2: pretty close to the Trumps, to Donald Trump and actually
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Speaker 2: said the okay, because it's such a big deal. The
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Speaker 2: federal government has to okay this, because that's what happened
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Speaker 2: with the Feds. When you have massive deals like this,
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Speaker 2: you have monopoly issues, you have sherman antitrust issues. And
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Speaker 2: so what Paramount said is we're better situated to get
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Speaker 2: the okay then than Netflix, whoa effectively saying that our
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Speaker 2: connections to the Trump administration are going to make it
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Speaker 2: easier for this thing to go through, therefore you should
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Speaker 2: vote for us. Netflix comes back and says, no, there
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Speaker 2: really is no difference. We're in the same position that
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Speaker 2: Paramount is in, which also is a croc because those
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Speaker 2: who are favored by Trump, those who are close to Trump,
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Speaker 2: they win.
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Speaker 3: It's not that complicated. So what's the end all going
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Speaker 3: to be here?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm guessing, and I don't think I'm alone, because
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Speaker 2: this is what most of the pundits and the financial
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Speaker 2: experts are saying. Netflix is going to prevail. It's just
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Speaker 2: that simple. Netflix is going to win out all right. Now,
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Speaker 2: Christmas trees. You know a lot of people have Christmas trees.
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Speaker 2: I've never had a Christmas tree. This year is my
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Speaker 2: first Christmas tree, and it's a fake Christmas tree. Matter
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Speaker 2: of fact, I have two fake Christmas trees and I
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Speaker 2: am not alone. Why is that? Because more people are
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Speaker 2: buying Christmas trees than ever before that are fake. Except
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Speaker 2: the National Christmas Tree Association, of course, there is one
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Speaker 2: says it really hasn't changed in the last fifteen years,
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Speaker 2: about the same number of people buy artificial trees. So
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Speaker 2: why would you buy an artificial tree? Well, because the
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Speaker 2: cost of artificial trees has gone up, but not nearly
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Speaker 2: as much as the cost of real trees, real trees.
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Speaker 2: It's reached the point now where artificial trees, which used
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Speaker 2: to be far more expensive than real trees, not anymore. Also,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of reason why people don't have real trees,
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Speaker 2: because you have the needles fall off and they get
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Speaker 2: a little old, and you have to and they don't
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Speaker 2: last very long. And what do you do afterwards, You
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Speaker 2: gotta there's a lot of work. Artificial trees you just
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Speaker 2: throw up and they're done, and they already have lights
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Speaker 2: on them, nice lights, and they're in is why most
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Speaker 2: people like artificial trees, or a lot of people do.
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Speaker 2: So now the story is made in America because frankly,
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Speaker 2: the trees are made overseas.
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Speaker 3: Nobody makes trees in America.
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Speaker 2: So for those people that say we must have made
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Speaker 2: in America labels, they're not going to have. They're not
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Speaker 2: going to have artificial trees. About eighty percent of people
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Speaker 2: who put up a Christmas tree plan to use a
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Speaker 2: fake one eighty percent of people use fake trees. And
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Speaker 2: with artificial trees, what a lot of people do and
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Speaker 2: people like to do is you set up the trees
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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, you leaving them up for weeks. Well you
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Speaker 2: can't do that with fresh cut trees because they go south.
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Speaker 3: Maybe a matter of a few weeks.
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Speaker 2: But you can't do it from Thanksgiving through New Year,
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Speaker 2: which fake trees happened to just we happen to do
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Speaker 2: now that I am a member of that fraternity. Also,
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Speaker 2: one of Ashley's CEO of this company, Balsam Brands sells
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of trees every year fake trees said,
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Speaker 2: on top of all that, where are you going to
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Speaker 2: get fifteen thousand people in America who want to string
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Speaker 2: lights on Christmas trees? Because every one of them those
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Speaker 2: lights on fake trees are strung up by hand. And
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Speaker 2: you just don't find people that are willing to do that.
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Speaker 2: It takes an hour or two to make an artificial tree.
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Speaker 2: It has to be molded, that's easy. Cutting the needles,
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Speaker 2: that's done by hand, tying branches together, and attaching the lights,
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Speaker 2: that is done by hand. And why is it in
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Speaker 2: China and that here? Well, ninety percent of the fake
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Speaker 2: trees are made in China and the people, the workers
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Speaker 2: in China are paid a buck fifty to two dollars
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Speaker 2: an hour. Yeah, it's not going to happen here, especially
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Speaker 2: by the tens of thousands. One of Balsam's factories, it's
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Speaker 2: a Chinese.
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Speaker 3: Factory and they call them their partners, which is how
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Speaker 3: it works.
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Speaker 2: Employees fifteen to twenty thousand people. Indonesia has up to
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Speaker 2: ten thousand people seasonal workers. And you just can't find
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Speaker 2: Americans to, you know, to string those lights together. It's
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Speaker 2: much like finding Americans to pick strawberries. It is not
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Speaker 2: going to happen. So they figured, Okay, people want an
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Speaker 2: American tree, American made tree. And so the company hired
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Speaker 2: a bunch of consultants and was going to automate some
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Speaker 2: work and it was going to happen here. And it
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Speaker 2: concluded that a tree that costs eight hundred bucks. It's
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Speaker 2: like a nine or twelve foot tree would cost three
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. It was made in the US. Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: just doesn't work. And also, artificial trees are really neat
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, as opposed to a real Christmas tree.
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Speaker 2: I know the smell of pine and the freshness and
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Speaker 2: all right, you put one of those pine scented dow
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Speaker 2: dots into the wall that smell the entire house up,
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Speaker 2: and you have the scent of lilax or lavender or pine,
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Speaker 2: and you get the Christmas tree smell. It doesn't compare
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Speaker 2: a real tree, doesn't compare to an artificial tree. Remember
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Speaker 2: eighty percent of the people buy trees by artrees. Now
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Speaker 2: why because they break apart in the sense of now
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Speaker 2: they're in thirds. They're easy to put into a box.
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Speaker 2: You store them in the garage or wherever for the year,
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Speaker 2: and then you just pop them out and you set
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Speaker 2: them up. Lights are already on there, and they're beautiful,
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Speaker 2: and they're strung together where it would take you hours
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Speaker 2: and hours and it's the easiest thing.
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Speaker 3: In the world.
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Speaker 2: You don't but you don't have to put them in
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Speaker 2: a pan of water. The bottom of the tree and
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Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about cleaning up afterwards, and
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Speaker 2: you have to worry about trying to figure out where
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Speaker 2: the tree is going to go. I know the city
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Speaker 2: I think picks up trees if you put put them outside.
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Speaker 2: That's normally the case, because I used to see Christmas
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Speaker 2: trees outside on the on the sidewalk. But the bottom
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Speaker 2: line is, it's all about artificial trees. And now, as
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Speaker 2: I did earlier, I'm going to do the rounds Kno,
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Speaker 2: real or artificial. That's a real oooh okay, Amy, real
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Speaker 2: or artificial?
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Speaker 3: For what tree?
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Speaker 2: Real or artificial? We're not talking about, never mind parts
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Speaker 2: of your body. Okay, that is not what I'm asking
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Speaker 2: Real or artificial.
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Speaker 3: Okay, no, I understand that.
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Speaker 1: Real.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that's probably a lawsuit right there, isn't there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm done real or artificial tree?
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Speaker 3: Real? Real? Oh wow, that's too real? And will real
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Speaker 3: or artificial?
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Speaker 2: I prefer real, But I've got an artificial okay, excellent,
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Speaker 2: and then ann real or artificial one of each.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So we are like all over the place.
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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of us do not have artificial trees, and
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Speaker 2: we have Anne.
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Speaker 3: Really screws it. Up with one real and one artificial.
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Speaker 2: Will is I love a real tree, but I have
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Speaker 2: an artificial tree. You don't help the survey at all. Thanks, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're welcome. And then I am all artificial. Now that
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Speaker 2: is when you think about it, that has several different meanings,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it being artificial definitely hits a couple of categories
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Speaker 2: in my life. Okay, as we always do say, mornings,
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Speaker 2: it's a medical news segment with doctor Jim Kinney, chief
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Speaker 2: medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach,
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Speaker 2: and a board certified er doc who has wonderful stories
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Speaker 2: to talk about in the er.
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Speaker 1: Morning Jim, Morning Bill.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get right to it because we have a
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Speaker 2: lot to talk about. Poor sleep contrigger, a vicious cycle
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Speaker 2: that your brain simply can't break. Most of us do
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Speaker 2: have poor sleep in the sense we wake up, wake
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Speaker 2: up in the morning. During the night, I always wake
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Speaker 2: up to pee and most people do. Once in a
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Speaker 2: great while, I'll sleep through the night, and then of
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Speaker 2: course I'll know that I have very wet sheets because
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Speaker 2: of what the bed, what happens and what is poor sleep?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: So I mean lots of people wake up through the night.
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Speaker 1: That's that's not normal. We go through cycles in our sleep,
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Speaker 1: deep sleep and then lighter sleep the later and they eat.
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Speaker 1: In the sleep cycles, we get rem sleep, and that's
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Speaker 1: when your your brain actually gets to kind of clean
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Speaker 1: out the toxins and everything else. So you know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's not unusual to wake up, but when you wake
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Speaker 1: up unrested and sleepy and tired, that's your best indicator
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Speaker 1: that you got poor sleep. And what this really shows
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Speaker 1: is there's a link between mental health, you know, how
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Speaker 1: you feel, how you're doing, and sleep. Uh and and
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Speaker 1: it's been well documented right that that lack of sleep,
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Speaker 1: poor sleep results in mental health issues and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: Mental health issues seem to be associated with poor sleep.
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Speaker 1: So we don't know, you know, chicken in the egg,
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Speaker 1: probably both are impacting each other. But sleep is that
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Speaker 1: important that you know you need to get that to
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Speaker 1: maintain good mental health. The problem is that not everybody
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Speaker 1: does that. There's a lot of issues that feed into sleep,
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Speaker 1: like whether you're getting you know, bright lights in your
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Speaker 1: eyes before at bedtime when you're trying to go to sleep,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are scrolling on their phone checking things,
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Speaker 1: really amping up their anxiety and not producing melatonin. This
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Speaker 1: shuts off your pineal gland when you see bright light,
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Speaker 1: and that's the gland in your brain that produces melatonin.
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Speaker 2: When you talk about poor sleep, are you supposed to
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Speaker 2: wake up refreshed and ready to go and bounding out
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Speaker 2: of bed, Because I know very few people that do that.
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Speaker 2: I mean every morning I wake up, sometimes you alarm
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Speaker 2: goes off. Usually I wake up before the alarm and
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Speaker 2: it takes me about an hour to kick in and
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Speaker 2: be normal. That has to be what happens to most people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That's about right. You know, you wake
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Speaker 1: up and your cortisol level and in the temperature a
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Speaker 1: kind of what tends to wake you up. So if
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Speaker 1: you can control your environment, ideally you go to bed
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Speaker 1: with the room cooler and darker, and then in the
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Speaker 1: morning when you wake up, you should be getting sunlight
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Speaker 1: in the room or light, and then you also get
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Speaker 1: a warmer temperature and those two together will trigger all
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Speaker 1: the natural kind of things in your body to wake
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Speaker 1: you up, and then our brains are set to see
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Speaker 1: that morning lighting. You know that low in the horizon,
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Speaker 1: the wavelengths of light that come across on the low
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Speaker 1: horizon early morning light. Those are actually set to wake
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Speaker 1: you up, So if you can get outside and see
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Speaker 1: some of that, this will help you wake up, and
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Speaker 1: then your cortisol level starts to rise, and that's what
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Speaker 1: And you want that early morning high elevation of cortisol
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Speaker 1: so that you wake up in the morning and then
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Speaker 1: all day long that tends to drop off, and you
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Speaker 1: want it to be low at night. And then again
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Speaker 1: that's why behaviors that spike your cortisol at night are
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Speaker 1: not good, because then you're not gonna be able to
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Speaker 1: go to sleep.
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Speaker 2: So people will work night shifts, and those of us
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Speaker 2: here in this show who have no chance of waking
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Speaker 2: up to light other than artificial light, we are, I
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Speaker 2: won't say in trouble, but.
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Speaker 3: Part of this vicious cycle. Is that fair to say?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, shift workers and I was one for many,
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Speaker 1: many years. You know, it definitely ampacts your health. It
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Speaker 1: affects your mental health, your physical health, risk factors for
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Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease and everything else. But you can mitigate it
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Speaker 1: by doing certain things. And if you're gonna adjust your
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Speaker 1: timing of when you sleep, you can do that again
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Speaker 1: by getting artificial lights that simulate that morning light and
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Speaker 1: then avoiding light in your eyes in the evening. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people wear those blue blocker lights and things
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Speaker 1: like that. If you're going to have to be up
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Speaker 1: about when when it's bright light or sunny just before
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Speaker 1: you go to bed, wearing those kind of devices will
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Speaker 1: help reduce those wavelength of light that stop the production
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Speaker 1: of melatonin and then don't allow you to go to sleep.
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Speaker 1: So it takes real intention. If you're going to try
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Speaker 1: and alter your sleep cycle away from the normal daily
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Speaker 1: variations of light and sun and everybody else being awake
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Speaker 1: and asleep, you're going to have to do it very intentionally.
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Speaker 3: Got it, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Over the years, and we've been talking for decades. Now
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Speaker 2: we're talking about the magic bullet for weight loss, and
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Speaker 2: it looks like we're pretty close. If not, we're there
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Speaker 2: with the GP GLP one drugs. Now, I'm reading what
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Speaker 2: you have written as a topic. There is a strategy
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Speaker 2: that is five times more effective than just simply taking.
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Speaker 3: The drug, and a lot of people want to know
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Speaker 3: about that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, I don't know that that's not exactly
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Speaker 1: what it is. So here's the deal. The glps have
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Speaker 1: a place. They are very effective in helping people lose weight.
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Speaker 1: And in a study environment, you know, people are losing
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Speaker 1: like twenty percent of their body weight, but then in
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Speaker 1: real life they seem to be losing closer to five
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Speaker 1: or six percent of their body weight, and that's because
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Speaker 1: it's you know, you're not getting all the support of
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Speaker 1: a study, and over time, either people stop taking it
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Speaker 1: or you know, it plateaus and it stops working for them.
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Speaker 1: So it is an effective strategy, but long term it
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be as effectives as the weight loss
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Speaker 1: surgery itself. So either the gastric sleeve or the gastric
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Speaker 1: bypass surgery, those are lifelong commitment. So now as you know,
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Speaker 1: because you've done this, it changes your body forever, so
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Speaker 1: there's no option to go back and overall, and again
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Speaker 1: this study was presented at a bariatric surgery conference, so
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Speaker 1: definitely this is more there's some bias here potentially, but
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Speaker 1: what they showed was long term weight loss from gas
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Speaker 1: bypass surgery is about twenty five percent of your body weight,
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Speaker 1: and GLPS it's about five percent, So that's where they're
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Speaker 1: getting the five times more effective. But the real answer
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Speaker 1: is there's probably a strategy in between where maybe you
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Speaker 1: use the GLPS at first, see how they do, and
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Speaker 1: if you're able to maintain that weight loss, then you
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Speaker 1: keep going with GLPS. If not, then you need to
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Speaker 1: go potentially to weight loss surgery and re law surgery.
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Speaker 1: By the way, is it's still not you know, it
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Speaker 1: should be at this point considered kind of a standard
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Speaker 1: treatment for obesity, and it still really is just kind
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Speaker 1: of a boutique service. You know that it shouldn't be
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Speaker 1: that it should just like the GLPS, where we recognize
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Speaker 1: obesity as a serious health problem and we address it
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Speaker 1: using all the tools that we have.
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Speaker 3: Well, what do you call it?
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Speaker 2: Weight loss surgery? And I had the rule and why
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Speaker 2: and I weighed I was three hundred.
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Speaker 3: And ten pounds.
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Speaker 2: And for those people that want to see what I
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Speaker 2: looked like at three hundred and ten pounds, that was
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Speaker 2: when I had the worst television show in the history
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Speaker 2: of mankind. And you can go to YouTube and look
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Speaker 2: it up Bill handle judge for yourself, and you'll see
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Speaker 2: a couple of photos where I just I'm unrecognizable, but
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Speaker 2: I had the ruin.
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Speaker 3: Why I had the.
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Speaker 2: Most I won't say I guess it's fair to say
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Speaker 2: the most effective, but certainly the most invasive part of
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Speaker 2: the weight loss surgery.
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Speaker 3: And it worked.
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Speaker 2: I mean I went down and I've kept the weight
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Speaker 2: off for all those years. And to your point, and
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Speaker 2: we only have a second If it is this effective
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Speaker 2: and long term, it's going to save the insurance company
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Speaker 2: buckets of money with diabetes and cardiovascular disease. Why is
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Speaker 2: it not now simply part of normal treatment that the
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Speaker 2: insurance complease pick up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do pick it up, so it is covered.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It is still looked at
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Speaker 1: as an extreme, you know, extreme intervention, and that's the
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Speaker 1: problem is the surgeries have gotten better, Like you said,
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Speaker 1: we do less invasive surgeries and it's not as extreme,
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Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be looked at as the last resort.
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Speaker 1: It should be looked at as an effective treatment for
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Speaker 1: obesity that hasn't you know, resolved with diet and exercise.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Jim, we'll talk again next week
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Speaker 2: as we always do on a Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: You have a good win. Take care, all right? Take care, yeah, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Who by the way, is no youngster and is an
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Speaker 2: extraordinarily good shape. We we have lunch and dinner occasionally together,
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Speaker 2: and it's kind of nice to know that he eats
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Speaker 2: as much as I do. All Right, we are done, guys, finished, finished, finished.
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Speaker 2: I'm back again tomorrow. Amy and will.
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Speaker 3: Start at five o'clock with wake up call. Neil is
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Speaker 3: not here tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: So it's just the three of us as I join
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Speaker 2: the show at six o'clock.
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Speaker 3: We're off now because Gary and Shannon are showing.
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Speaker 2: Up in just a moment. Yeah, I and Cono quit
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Speaker 2: pointing to yourself. I'll get to you.
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Speaker 3: Okay, God, you know you.
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Speaker 1: Know what.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing you just beg for it. You're like, it's
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Speaker 2: I have my little pooch begging for attention. Okay, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know who I go to first, and then
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Speaker 2: Amy and Cono also here to help with Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's Anne. Am I still conflating Amy and Anne?
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Speaker 2: You know what many years?
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Speaker 3: What about me? It has It's gonna go on for
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Speaker 3: a whole lot time.
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Speaker 2: I canflate my daughters, and I've been around them for
24:44
Speaker 2: a while.
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Speaker 3: I can flate my dogs.
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Speaker 2: I call Uh, I call him her, and it's you know,
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Speaker 2: I conflate Uh Lindsey because and she's not even trans
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Speaker 2: so We're done. Alright, guys, I'll catch you tomorrow. Darien
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