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- 0:01SPEAKER_00: Greetings.
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: This is David B.
- 0:02SPEAKER_00: Williams and the podcast of my newsletter,
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: The Street Smart Naturalist,
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Explorations of the Urban Kind.
- 0:10Every week I share my observations and adventures with the
- 0:13human and natural world
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: around Seattle,
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: Puget Sound,
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: and the Pacific Northwest.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Today's episode focuses on how my next book came to be.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: To learn more about my work,
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: please go to my website, geologywriter.com.
- 0:27You will also find a link to my Substack newsletter and my
- 0:30previous five years of
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: newsletters,
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: as well as just images tied to this week's episode.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Thanks again for joining me on this adventure,
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: and welcome to Podcast 63 of the Street Smart Naturalist,
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Creating a Book in the Range of Fire and Ice,
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: February 19,
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: 2026.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: Nearly four years ago,
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: I sent a short email to my friend Emily White,
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: acquisitions editor at Mountaineers Books.
- 1:02Might you have 20 to 30 minutes to chat about a book idea the
- 1:04next week or two,
- 1:05I ask.
- 1:07Thus began a relationship for the book that has become In the
- 1:11Range of Fire and
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: Ice,
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: A Human and Natural History of Washington's Cascades,
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: which Mountaineers Books will publish in 2026.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: September, that is.
- 1:22I bring this up now because I turned in the page proofs of the
- 1:27book last week.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: In case you didn't know,
- 1:29page proofs are basically the first time an author sees a book
- 1:34laid out as it will
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: be when published and basically the last time an author can make changes.
- 1:41I thought I'd follow up by giving a bit more of a
- 1:43behind-the-scenes look at the
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: creation of the book.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: Before starting on this manuscript,
- 1:48I had been planning an on-the-ground look at how climate change
- 1:52was playing out in
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: the Pacific Northwest.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: I had spent several months interviewing scientists,
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: but could never figure out an angle that worked.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Finally,
- 2:01Marjorie and I were on one of our regular evening walks around
- 2:05the neighborhood
- 2:06when the idea of a book about the human and natural history of
- 2:09the Olympic and
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Cascades popped into my head.
- 2:13I remember wondering why it took so long to come up with such a
- 2:16simple idea.
- 2:18it would make a fun and logical follow-up to Home Waters,
- 2:21my book about Puget Sound.
- 2:24I quickly realized that covering both mountain ranges didn't
- 2:28make sense,
- 2:29so narrowed my focus.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: I then spent the next several months discussing the idea with friends,
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: scientists,
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: and historians,
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: basically anyone who had talked to me.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: Writing is a funny thing.
- 2:42I have two writing pals who will not talk about their
- 2:46in-progress books at all.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: whereas I'll blab away to anyone who will listen.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: I figure it's a good way to see what excites people,
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: plus friends often ask great questions that lead me to new insights.
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: During this time, I had my first chat with Emily about the book.
- 3:02She was supportive and encouraging,
- 3:04as well as offering good suggestions for topics.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: I also just want to be clear.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: This is a privilege of having worked with Emily for more than a decade,
- 3:13and having become a good friend and not something I could have
- 3:16done early in my career.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: Once I had narrowed down my topics,
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: I spent the next two and a half years doing what I love best,
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: going out in the field,
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: either by myself,
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: with margarine friends,
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: and or with researchers.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: I hiked, backpacked, and car camped.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: I carried baby fish and released them in a high country lake,
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: picked and ate many,
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: many huckleberries.
- 3:40tagged along with Wolverine researchers as they retrieved and
- 3:44set out remote
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: cameras,
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: hiked to many fire lookouts abandoned,
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: in good shape,
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: and long gone,
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: found the stomach and viscera of either a mountain goat or deer,
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: hiked into the crater of Mount St.
- 3:55Helens,
- 3:56and got to see National Park Service rangers deliver clean
- 4:00backcountry toilets.
- 4:02For the most part,
- 4:03I focused my field time on whatever chapter I was writing.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: My style is akin to my college career.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: I went to school where we took one class at a time.
- 4:14Each block lasted three and a half weeks with a short break
- 4:18between classes.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: I still write on the block plan,
- 4:21doing all of my research and writing and finishing the chapter
- 4:24before proceeding to
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: the next chapter.
- 4:26I even sort of eat this way,
- 4:28eating all of one item on my plate before moving to something
- 4:31else.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: I sent the manuscript to Emily in January 2025.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: Her response one month later was wonderful.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: What a treat to spend this rainy weekend learning about the Cascades.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Even though I've spent so much time in these mountains,
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: your manuscript makes me realize I hardly know them at all.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Now the fun began.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: First step was a development editor,
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: basically someone who would take the big picture view,
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: offering a fresh set of eyes on structure,
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: themes,
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: and voice.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: The return manuscripts markups ranged from simple fixes,
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: such as inserting a missing word,
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: to kind comments,
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: laugh out loud,
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: love this coinage,
- 5:12to questions and suggestions about adding more information
- 5:16about myself and people
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: I ventured out in the field with.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: Next up was copy editing,
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: punctuation,
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: spelling,
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: consistency,
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: formatting,
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: sentence tightening,
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: questions about specific word use,
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: fixes of redundancy,
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: that sort again.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: Once again, I was pleased with the changes for the most part.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: In the tally of revisions,
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: which totals in the thousands,
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: these rounds of editing are not for the faint of heart.
- 5:46It's always a shock when I open the document and see the
- 5:49highlights and red lines and comments.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: Plus,
- 5:52there's always some comment or correction and copy that annoys
- 5:57me and makes me say,
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: what the hell?
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: You have to be insane.
- 6:01I have learned to pull back at this point and give the document
- 6:06and my nerves a rest.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: When I return and read through more carefully,
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: I usually see the clarity and concern in what the editor has done.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: After all,
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: the goal of the developmental and copy editors is to improve my writing,
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: to help me be clear and to find mistakes and consistency.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: They are not ogres plotting my downfall.
- 6:28Despite all of the changes and the fact that they indicate that
- 6:31what I thought was
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: well done was in need of some good editing,
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: I like this process.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: I know that these rounds of editing are the polishing phases,
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: removing the rough edges and honing the book into shape.
- 6:44I always like to think that the edits help to take the book up
- 6:47to another level.
- 6:49And I definitely know that they eliminate my errors in
- 6:51punctuation and spelling,
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: though occasionally facts slip by,
- 6:56such as the time I had three different dates for the Denny
- 6:59Party's arrival in
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Seattle.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: I finally caught that error in the final round of proofreading.
- 7:04I can only hope that I,
- 7:06or we,
- 7:07haven't missed any similar egregious errors.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: But I also know there are mistakes in the book.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: There always are.
- 7:15Even though I have turned in the page proofs,
- 7:17my work on In the Range of Fire and Ice continues.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: Captions,
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: final details on images,
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: blurbs,
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: ploof readings,
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: and then another completely different process begins.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: Marketing, which lasts long after the book is published.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: As I've said above,
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: Writing a book isn't for the faint of heart.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: It is also a privilege.
- 7:39I love doing what I do and feel incredibly fortunate that I get
- 7:43to spend my time
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: research and writing about the natural world.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: Once again,
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: this is David B.
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: Williams,
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: author and voice of The Street Smart Naturalist,
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: Explorations of the Urban Kind,
- 7:56a weekly newsletter and podcast focusing on the human and
- 7:59natural world around
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: Seattle,
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: Puget Sound,
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: and the Pacific Northwest.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: If you'd like more details about my books,
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: walks,
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: and talks,
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: and a link to sign up for my newsletter and podcast,
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: check out my website,
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: geologywriter.com.
- 8:13And don't forget to slow down,
- 8:15pay attention,
- 8:16and enjoy the world around you.