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The Favorites - NFL Betting Recap Week 15 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites of the Podcast, presented by Beth
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  Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad
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  Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna review the faves five picks we put into
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  Speaker 1: the contest. We're going to dissect why we left games out,
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  Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Chad, Well, look I'm looking.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the upside. We avoided our worst instincts. We did
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  Speaker 1: not include the Panthers as short favorites, or the Titans
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  Speaker 1: as big home dogs, or even the Giants at as
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  Speaker 1: sixteen and a half point underdogs. We nearly included the
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  Speaker 1: Jags at three and a half, but we avoided that. However, However,
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  Speaker 1: every team we did choose today in what is an
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  Speaker 1: zero to four start, basically self destructed at the exact
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  Speaker 1: same time, except for the Cleveland Browns, only because they
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  Speaker 1: were in the early window. In a season of bad
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  Speaker 1: luck and bad calls, this one was truly special. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to recap just a couple of them, because like
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  Speaker 1: to do it in each individual game almost feels like
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing it justice because you need to absorb
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  Speaker 1: them all to truly understand how epic all this was.
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  Speaker 1: The Lions finally cut it to ten with twelve minutes
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  Speaker 1: left in the third and the fourth. They go for
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  Speaker 1: an on sidekick. The Steelers are driving down twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 1: inside the red zone in the third quarter, Najee Harris
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  Speaker 1: just drops a lateral. Eagles go on to score take
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  Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead. Jonathan Taylor of the Colts, we
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  Speaker 1: have the Colts plus four and a half, just drops
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  Speaker 1: the ball a foot before he crosses the goal line
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  Speaker 1: to put the Colts up twenty to seven. They don't
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  Speaker 1: score again the rest of the game. Jamis throws multiple
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  Speaker 1: picks into the Chiefs end zone. If you haven't figured
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  Speaker 1: it out already, we had the Browns plus four and
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  Speaker 1: a half, the Steelers five and a half, the Colts
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  Speaker 1: four and a half, and Detroit two and a half.
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  Speaker 1: In the day games. Thank god, we have Green Bay tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank god. Like my wife and I have a list
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  Speaker 1: not gonna watch this game tonight. We're gonna dig into everything.
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  Speaker 1: Plus the discussion on the Jags, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: probably should have covered if not for a meltdown type
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  Speaker 1: call by Jeff Albrich of the Jets, which was truly idiotic.
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  Speaker 1: painful process simon Kansas City and Cleveland. So we had
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  Speaker 1: the Browns four and a half. We nearly kicked this
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  Speaker 1: one out for Jacksonville this morning. It really came down
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  Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh for a final two. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, there's so much to say.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get your take before we dig in,
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  Speaker 1: because I've unloaded so much epically bad beats in the
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  Speaker 1: last five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I got enough that says this as your baby. I
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  Speaker 2: told you, can we just avoid this game and you
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  Speaker 2: push it all week. You put it in there, you
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  Speaker 2: got to live with it. It was you knew right
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  Speaker 2: away too. It was a bad bet. Where that guy
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  Speaker 2: on that first punt fumbling that ball. It's just I
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  Speaker 2: once answered to myself, why are we even involved in
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  Speaker 2: this game? Why do I have money on this game?
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  Speaker 2: Why do I have to watch this game? I was
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  Speaker 2: cursing your name right from the get go because I
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  Speaker 2: just said I knew we should have just avoided it.
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  Speaker 2: We can't get to read them either of those teams.
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  Speaker 2: We knew the Chiefs were eventually going to be the
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  Speaker 2: right side and the Browns had just about everything going wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Winston had the Winston game that we fear, which is
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  Speaker 2: can't stop making stupid turnovers and can't be consistent at
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  Speaker 2: all and was just never in rhythm. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: they benched somewhat midway through or early in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, terrible game, terrible spot the Chiefs, long overdue
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  Speaker 2: for them just to catch a break in a game
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  Speaker 2: where they get a bunch of turners, which we talked
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  Speaker 2: about it going to that game. I think they only
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  Speaker 2: had ten or eleven turnovers, and yeah, they had got
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of fumbles, a bunch of interceptions. It just
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  Speaker 2: it all went to Chiefs way other than obviously the
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes injury, but it seems like he avoided anything serious
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  Speaker 2: if forgetting X rays done. So yeah, just a really ugly,
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  Speaker 2: sloppy game. What did they win? Twenty one to seven
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  Speaker 2: and the Browns had a kick return, so it was
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  Speaker 2: just like we couldn't get anything going with that Brown's offense.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just a miserable experience to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, with both Pittsburgh and Kansas City, we feel
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  Speaker 1: like we've been tempting fate by continuing to bet on
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  Speaker 1: the trance in the case of Kansas City, baiting them
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  Speaker 1: as favorites of more than three. We thought last week
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  Speaker 1: was the spot to back Kansas City. To your credit,
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  Speaker 1: to your credit when we wrote down the Browns on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: your note, I remember I wrote it down. Avoid it's gross.
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  Speaker 1: I think personally, me and Kevin Stefanski, we've both been
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  Speaker 1: seduced by Jamis. I don't know if that'll be the
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  Speaker 1: case going forward. Because Dorian Thompson Robinson did take over
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  Speaker 1: the game. The Browns fumbled the first punt of the game.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs scored a touchdown off that Late in the
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  Speaker 1: first half, Jamis threw into double coverage in the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: end zone in the Kansas City thirty five was picked,
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  Speaker 1: blowing the scoring chance. Later in the first half, he
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  Speaker 1: made an inaccurate throw to Nick Chubb. Nick Bolton intercepted.
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs scored a touchdown. Second half, they're driving again. Jamis
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  Speaker 1: throws another pick from the Chiefs thirty five into their
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  Speaker 1: end zone. I just feel the Browns defense. They only
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  Speaker 1: gave up I think seven points, you know, like they
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  Speaker 1: scored fourteen points off of Jamis turnovers. I will say this,
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  Speaker 1: I bet on the Jags at three and a half,
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  Speaker 1: and at three point thirty this afternoon, the Jags were
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  Speaker 1: winning and the Browns were down fourteen, I still felt
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  Speaker 1: like the Browns had a better chance to cover.
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  Speaker 2: I not.
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  Speaker 1: I never believed in the Jags in that game. Never
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  Speaker 1: once did I believe in them. I just assumed it
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  Speaker 1: was going to go badly for them.
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  Speaker 2: Well it makes you feel better. You have a terrible
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  Speaker 2: read on the board right now, But you nailed that
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  Speaker 2: one then, because they're up five and I think the
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  Speaker 2: action app gave him a seventy percent chance of covering
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  Speaker 2: the three and a half and uh yeah, they're up
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  Speaker 2: five with five minutes ago. And I was not cursing
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  Speaker 2: your name, but I was just like, God, damn it, Jad,
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  Speaker 2: why do you make this so hard. I just was
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  Speaker 2: begging for you for multiple times to take the Browns
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  Speaker 2: out and just put the Jags in because I felt
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  Speaker 2: like it was a better number. But yeah, you got
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  Speaker 2: a lucky you got the gambling guys on your side,
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  Speaker 2: because that was the flukiest dump coaching Jets moment, the
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  Speaker 2: reason that they covered that number.
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  Speaker 1: So we got to talk about that for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you. Even though
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  Speaker 1: I bet on the I bet on the Jags in
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  Speaker 1: that game. I was really hoping Obrok was stupid enough
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  Speaker 1: to go for a touchdown so I did not have
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  Speaker 1: to eat it with the Jags covering that game, because
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  Speaker 1: what a fucking idiot. Yeah, that is like, that is
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  Speaker 1: why this team has been failing. I mean they've been
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  Speaker 1: failing for a lot of reasons, but the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he let them go for a touchdown with a minute
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  Speaker 1: five left and the Jags having two timeouts instead of
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  Speaker 1: just kneeling down and making them take the timeouts and
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  Speaker 1: kicking the game winning field goal with no time left.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm a Jags better who had really gone all
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  Speaker 1: in on that, I'm watching that like with a pit
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  Speaker 1: in my stomach, knowing there's nothing you can do toget
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  Speaker 1: o the way of that. It was dumbfounding, truly dumbfounding.
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  Speaker 2: That's me. I bet heavy on it. Those one of
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  Speaker 2: my biggest bets. It was my biggest bed dog of
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  Speaker 2: the day, and uh yeah, it sucks. But it's like
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  Speaker 2: we talk all the time, it's we got a whale
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  Speaker 2: last week against the Jets. This week, by there being
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  Speaker 2: idiots and their own right, they somehow covered that number.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, just that's that's that's betting, baby, Like I
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  Speaker 2: love it. But it's also like you just said, it's sickening.
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  Speaker 2: Where as soon as Devanta Adams caught that ball and
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  Speaker 2: there's someone around them, it's like, oh, this is really
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  Speaker 2: about to happen. They're not going to cover this number now,
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  Speaker 2: so uh yeah, pretty brutal. No cover.
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Philadelphia Steelers were plus five and a half.
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  Speaker 1: This was the other game we nearly kicked out for Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: I felt more strongly about this than Cleveland. It's similar
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  Speaker 1: to fading Casey as a favorite. We like to play
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin as a dog period, even though he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: lost in this spot this year. And then Jalen just
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  Speaker 1: had his best game of the year first half twelve
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  Speaker 1: to thirteen, one six two touchdowns, AJ five for sixty
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  Speaker 1: five in a touchdown in the first half. I will
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  Speaker 1: say Jayden still looks bad if he doesn't get his
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  Speaker 1: first read, but this was about Najie Harris fumbles, can't
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  Speaker 1: catch the lateral the Steeler, the Eagles go down. The
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  Speaker 1: Steelers have him third and nine inside the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: They can't tackle gain well. After a four yard path,
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  Speaker 1: he gains the first down, they get a touchdown. That's
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  Speaker 1: the sort of end of the game to me. But
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  Speaker 1: that was really frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: I just do not get this whole Chad moment. Is
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  Speaker 2: nick right? Thing you got going on with Jalen Hurts?
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  Speaker 2: It's bizarre world. He's bad if he doesn't get his
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  Speaker 2: first read. What the hell are you talking about? It
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  Speaker 2: was twenty five and thirty two. My favorite was Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Hurts was trolling the media repeating back to them what
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  Speaker 2: they're saying about him, that if he doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: first read, he just pulls it down and runs with it,
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  Speaker 2: and Chad thought he was being serious and was quoting
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  Speaker 2: him to people about that. He's trolling you, Chad. You
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  Speaker 2: don't think he makes the read outside the first read
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's always aging. It didn't seem like it today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he had a great game, but everyone saw
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  Speaker 2: that coming. The book sawid We just talked about that
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  Speaker 2: line stunk another game I wish we had avoided. We didn't,
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  Speaker 2: but it was another game. Not that I put it
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  Speaker 2: into pun issue, but I was like, Chad needs to
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  Speaker 2: have this one in. He will not get over not
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  Speaker 2: having this one. And if they if they Pittsburgh a
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  Speaker 2: cover and I made you have taken it out. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, weighing the decision. I've never hearing the end
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  Speaker 2: of it from you, especially, I would think Chris Rave.
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  Speaker 2: Once he put it in that Google doc, I was like, God,
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  Speaker 2: damn it. Now it's guaranteed to be in our faves five.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just I totally saw where you came from,
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  Speaker 2: right the Tomlin thing about him coming as a dog.
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  Speaker 2: But we both both knew that was a fishy line.
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  Speaker 2: And everything that could have gone wrong for Pittsburgh basically
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  Speaker 2: went wrong in that game. Right. They had a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of stupid fumbles, They were slopping a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, even how bad they played, it was
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  Speaker 2: still seventeen thirteen and a half, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll get luckier and covered because they played so bad. Nope,
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  Speaker 2: they played even worse in the second half. So just
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  Speaker 2: a total letdown game, letdown spot for them. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they have a brutal stretcher. Now they get the Ravens
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  Speaker 2: and then like five days after that they got to
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  Speaker 2: play the Cheaps on Christmas. It's just a brutal spot
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  Speaker 2: in the schedule for this Pittsburgh team and Eagles again,
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  Speaker 2: Chad say something nice about jaelling her it's because they
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  Speaker 2: are clearly a class above a lot of teams right
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  Speaker 2: now in this league.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I love the Eagles. I've been all over
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. I love their defense. May come around on
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, thank you. I haven't loved him this year.
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  Speaker 1: He was excellent today. He was excellent today. There was
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  Speaker 1: a point this all happened within about three minutes. You
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Steelers self destructing a little bit. They
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  Speaker 1: were finally driving their down twenty seven to thirteen, plenty
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  Speaker 1: of time in the game to make a comeback. They
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  Speaker 1: kill a drive with a personal file. The Lions give
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  Speaker 1: up a third and four to I forgot who caught
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  Speaker 1: it was a Dustin Knox who was double covered. The
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  Speaker 1: Colts give up a sixty yard hunt return that leads
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  Speaker 1: to a Bronco's touchdown and that was after Oh then
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  Speaker 1: they had the double pass for the pick six. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go on to the Colts because I like, it was
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  Speaker 1: so astonishing. Oh my god, Jonathan Taylor. We had the
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  Speaker 1: Colts four and a half, they're up thirteen to seven,
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of dominating the game. They'd made bo Nicks
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  Speaker 1: look silly. He had three picks through three quarters. They
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been able to get any offense going. Neither had
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  Speaker 1: the Colts. Like Anthony Richardson was truly terrible, averaged less
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  Speaker 1: than three yards per attempt in the first half. But
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor breaks a big one and then what happens.
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  Speaker 2: But no, before you get to that, though, you're sure
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  Speaker 2: right about the bon next thing is that he had
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  Speaker 2: three picks. I like that, the fact that we had
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  Speaker 2: a game that went exactly what we said we thought
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  Speaker 2: that was gonna happen, right, that he would be slopping
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  Speaker 2: the coach defensive step up that that I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know he threw three picks. I knew he had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of picks, but three picks and we don't even
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  Speaker 2: get close to that cover. But yeah, the Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 2: walking touchdown untouched. It was that thing too, where they
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  Speaker 2: keep cutting back to it on TV where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: what are they even reviewing here? He wasn't even touched
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my god, did he let go
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  Speaker 2: of the ball? Now they showed the angle. I didn't get.
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  Speaker 2: I never saw the angle of what they were talking
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  Speaker 2: about with him actually releasing the ball before they crossed
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  Speaker 2: the line. But clearly they must have found some TV
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  Speaker 2: angle with that on camera. And yeah, we went from
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  Speaker 2: being up twenty to seven to thirteen to seven.
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  Speaker 1: To bone two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say again, Bonix is still doing
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  Speaker 2: nothing and Strangstike and calls some bizarre plays and that
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  Speaker 2: pass a back across field and that spot was just
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  Speaker 2: and like the announcers are like, well, they needed to
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  Speaker 2: do something. It's it's like why why did they need
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  Speaker 2: to do something there? It's like, I don't know even
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  Speaker 2: if even maybe that was at seventeen thirteen. I forget
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  Speaker 2: what the exact score at that point, but it was
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  Speaker 2: just a very bizarre play call. And like you just said,
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  Speaker 2: once that happened, you're down with Anthony Richardson against the
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  Speaker 2: defense that is pretty good at rushing the passer and
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  Speaker 2: getting pressure, and yeah, he burned us another game. I think,
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  Speaker 2: let's look at the numbers. He's seventeen of thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: passing antheen Richardson. So yeah, not not where we want
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  Speaker 2: to be when we're back in him. No.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as when they were down twenty four thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is kind of over, like unless they
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  Speaker 1: got another Jonathan Taylor. Let's when he get open, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is not gonna go our way. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to see where did that game's over. Anthony Richardson ended
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  Speaker 1: up with seven carries so and forty six rushing yards.
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  Speaker 1: Kudos to Billy Ward because Billy Ward had a negative
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  Speaker 1: correlation parlay of plus four point fifty for Anthony Richardson
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  Speaker 1: over forty five and a half rushing yards but under
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  Speaker 1: nine and a half rushing attempts. It's like one of
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  Speaker 1: three bets that I won today was that bet. And
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  Speaker 1: he got twenty three of those yards on the first
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  Speaker 1: drive of the game when he scored a twenty three
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  Speaker 1: yard rushing touchdown. And the Colts you just said it
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  Speaker 1: like they were perfect through two and a half three
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  Speaker 1: quarters and like the wheels came off after that Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor play, like they just they completely lost their composure
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  Speaker 1: and gave the game. They just gave it away, like
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  Speaker 1: they had that game. That double pass for a pick six?
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  Speaker 1: Are you freaking kidding me? There were so many crazy
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  Speaker 1: coaching decisions today, All Brick not kicking the field goal,
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  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell going for the going for the on side kick,
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  Speaker 1: the double pass that leads to a pick six, like
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  Speaker 1: what happened today.
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  Speaker 2: It was so weird, it was, But it's also I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like we talked about that, just there's some games where
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  Speaker 2: not that three quarters are meaningless, but like you just said,
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  Speaker 2: the Colts dominated that game for three quarters and one
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  Speaker 2: or two little plays went sideways and they completely flipped
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  Speaker 2: the entire game. And you know, credit to Denver, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I should say that bow Nicks had three picks. They
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  Speaker 2: somehow overcame that, which again is mind blowing, like the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they were able to overcome that when you
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: can just you know, it was like that Tennessee game,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: like we're betting on these bad quarterbacks. They just have
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: these explosive moments where they just have meltdowns for a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: quarter and it completely flipped the whole games. So yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: pretty brutal day for bedding these ugly dogs.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Bo Nicks was so bad in the first half. While
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Anthony and Richardson completed less than three yards per pass attempt,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: bo Nicks only completed three point five yards per pass attempt.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So he was atrocious and still figured out a way
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to win that game thanks to some really bad decision
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: making and poor mental errors on the part of the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Coults buffalo ed Detroit. As we continue our journey
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: down Torture Lane, I mean, Jesus Detroit two and a half.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but after that first half,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I kind of felt like Detroit still could be in it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: The Bills were perfect and the Lions were not, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: yet the Lions were only down seven. And then the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Bills came out and within the first ninety second scored
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a touchdown and like, all right, well there's a dead bet.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say, like never totally
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: gave up. But the issue for me was just Josh Allen.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: We've already talked about this year. He's been probably the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: best second half quarterback in all football. Like, he's just
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: been dominant in the second half, and you know him
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and Joe Brady. The adjustin s they make against the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: teams they play is just special and they're they're they're
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: just clicking at a really high level right now. And yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Golf didn't have his A game, Dan Cavin have his
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: A game, and we joked that wasn't coming down to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: fourth downs, and it kind of did, right. That was
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen capitalizing on fourth downs in big plays. So yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I bet that unfortunate. H wish it was three because
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: at three we both talked about how we liked taking
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the bill side and we probably would have got there
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: with it, but at two and a half, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: probably not the best decision, I guess looking back now,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: because we talked about this line's defense, the injuries are
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: going to catch up them, and we talked about we
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: thought it was being the playoffs, right and they're facing
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: really good offenses and we've seen that now tonight and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: last weekend's Green Bay. It's it's gonna be interesting watching
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: this team going forward where it's like you saw it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: today too, where they had to call up Josh Adams
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to play or Jamal Adams, i should say, and it's like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you know when you see those moments, We're just like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: this is this is scary back in this team right
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: now as a favorite. But we knew what the deal
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: was head and going into it that if Josh Allen
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: kept playing like he is playing, we were gonna get burned.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And you know, we just we haven't seen something like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: this before. This guy's playing at this insanely high level
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: right now, and yeah, it's it's pretty scary going against them.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Betting wise, the Lions just scored a touchdown on a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: two point conversion. They're down six with twelve seconds.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: They just took an extra point, but yeah, oh.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Is that what it was? So it's forty eight forty two.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Think if they hadn't done that on side kick, would
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: it be a different game? Like, you don't know, but
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that seven points that the Bills then scored immediately put
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: this game into a different trajectory. It's astonishing. The only
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: thing the Bills did wrong in the first half they
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: missed a twenty four year field goal. They had three
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards and ten yards per play
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a Josh Allen averaged thirteen point four yards per attempt
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in the first half. Like he was sick. He was
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: sick that Jonathan Taylor play, by the way, happened exactly
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: when James Cook scored to open the second half for Buffalo.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Like the confluence today of plays that went against us
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that happened at the exact same time that it's like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a full beatdown. We were in an alley fighting twenty
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: seven kung fu masters and every single time someone had
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to kill shot. That's what it felt like.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just about again, how special this season is for
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Like I think his name is Ty Johnson.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It was his running back, Josh Allenstone to this guy
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: in like the clutch est, biggest moments of that game.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And this guy's making these insane plays, a guy that's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: like their third back. It's it is bizarre world. Like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: this guy has one hundred and fourteen yard receiving today
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and every time he touched it was a big play
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: in a big moment. And Yeah, like you talked about,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: we've had some batteries today, We've had some bad luck,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: but overall, some of the bets we made we kind
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of knew going in. The lines were a little fishy,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and it felt like you wanted to touch the hot
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: stove chat and you touched it and you got burned.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And it's not just me. Don't act like you're parenting
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: me in this situation.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: What games were you What games were you warning me off?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: All week? The only the games you were warning me off?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Listen, At any point today, you could have said, let's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: go with Tampa Bay. I want to get in the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: jacket tip.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It was never brought up. I mean again, I know
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you didn't want to do Tampa Bay. I'm talking about
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this week. We should have avoided Pittsburg, we should avoided Cleveland.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: That's what sucks, is like we're looking at four. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: don't fault us for the Lions. That to me was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a bet we both loved and the Colts. Yeah, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: then again the Colts. I feel like, again even midway
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: through that game, it's like a good bet. But it's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just brew that like now we're laying on the Giants,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Green Band we've never gone on for
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: five and it's like it's a lot to put on
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to Green Bay, to.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I putting in huh. The only game we would have
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: considered putting in the Jaguars. Yeah, so it wouldn't have mattered.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's one way to look at it. It's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: also there's different there's different ways of getting blown out.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I guess. I mean we you can do the scooch
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: thing the right sides of the winning side. It doesn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: even matter if you don't cover by three or you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: get blown up by thirty. But no, I'm just saying
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it was a tough week where it's like, you knew
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: some of those lines stunk, and we put them anyway.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That's what I meant by you touching the stove, you
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just you couldn't help yourself. Like that Pittsburgh one. We knew,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: we knew, and I hate that it went the way
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it did it because we knew what. We knew what
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we were always on the other side of that one.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Usually we knew with both of them. It's not a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: it's not a me thing, it's a we thing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: We both knew.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You didn't back brother.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen to I Hop on I Hop on
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: social media. I can hear how many people call me
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: an idiot for going against the Eagles.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, Yeah, on Thursday, go back and listen to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the tape. You you you were like trying to warm
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: me off it and then you fully came around to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the Steelers at the end of your at the end
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of your analysis, because I was going to walk away
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: from it because you were so comfort about the Eagles,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: because the wise guys were coming in on the Eagles
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and you were hearing so much about it. But in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the end you're like, we got to go with the Steelers.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Obviously Tampa the number didn't matter. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: wish we got Tampa in there. It's just a typical
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: thing of like we have three. I bet it heavy
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: at three, but for some reason our contest we have
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to put in two and a half. And we've talked
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: about two and a half has become one of the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: more important key numbers. So that's that was the whole
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: thing scared me off on it. But yeah, obviously, looking back,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tampa beat the shit out of the Chargers,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: exactly what we said it was going to happen there.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: The better team, like Evans dominated that matchup, had the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: game of his life. Lady McConkie came back early, didn't
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: look himself. They just they were just stagging offensively. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever happened that Herbert ankle injury, obviously I
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: didn't know much about it 't know if you heard
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: about it, but it's like, clearly whatever happened there. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: think he had two sacks and the guy landed right
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: on it, and from that they didn't score a single point,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: like they had seventy points at that point, and then
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the offense kind of just fell off from there on.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So definitely something to keep in mind going forward. This
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Chargers team like they're major injuries and major positions right
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: now heading into late December.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I am looking at our list right now. The games
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that we had talked about for Thursday. We talked about
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Miami that wouldn't have worked out, the Jags that would
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: have worked out, we talked about we were split on
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: there was a split. You said there was a split
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: between Tampa Bay and the Chargers. Seattle was one that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: came up that the wise guys like, but we're sticking
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with Green Bay Detroit. I don't know that we would
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: have won any games no matter which games we show,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: except for Tampa Bay. No, it's fair, Simon, we got
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about we have Green Bay to Night minus
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: two and a half. Please please, Jordan Love like you've
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: never played plaid, like you've never played before. We need you,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We need you.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Look at us Chason Winner on Sunday Night with a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: favorite Jesus.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of year it's been, Bro. We got
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to get to We got to find some Week sixteen
• 28:19
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• 28:22
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• 28:25
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• 28:28
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• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Smarty? What are we looking at for week sixteen?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You tell me, don't be so upset, Chad. I'm not upset.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: You sound like you're upset. We both wore oh and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: four right now. I'm just trying to let you know
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: this week, if there's a game I keep saying to you,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: can we please take this back? Can we just maybe
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: think about taking it out? Here we go Thursday night,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Broncos Chargers, the Open up Chargers minus three. We just
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: talked about Herbert having an injury. Yes, don't we just
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: take the three right now with Denver?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So there's a couple of games like that that pop
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: up here. Matt on a Saturday Chiefs are plus two
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and a half right now against the Texans.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: By the way, it's moved down from three and a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: half when we started the show.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: So that's the book saying it's Carson Wentz in their mind. Yep,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: But we just talked about the x Rays came back negative.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I'll grab it two and a half right now. It's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: another position we could take out we want to. But
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: even if it's Carson Wentz. Houston, Man, I don't know
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: how much of that Miami game you watched.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: They watched a lot of it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't, but like I just saw different parts pop
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: up and I was just like, man, they're luckily two
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: is throwing three picks in the game or whatever it
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: was four picks. I know he had a lot. There's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just something's off about them, and everyone's kind of had
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that same sense. And like you just said, people, any
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: professional that came in on Miami and like it's they
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: had good reason to. This Houston team is really questionable
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: right now. So yeah, that one jumps out to me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Two and a half Pittsburgh six and a half right
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: now against this Ravens team on Saturday.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I you know what I saw that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Are Suckers again.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I like, I didn't want to say anything.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It's a cross, it's it's above six. Though, we have
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to take it a six because we have to.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: We have to because I knew we were going to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: be having a hard conversation about how much I like
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the Steelers.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Well, we can't put them in the contest anyway. Unfortunately
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it's Saturday game.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Thank fucking God.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Really I would love to put this one. I don't know.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: This goes like another really nice Tomlin spot. Again, it
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: burned us today, but historically Tomlin, especially when it's above six,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: as a dog, he's a great bet, not only on
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the money line but on the spread.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Uh, Matt Mitchell is saying we might be good with
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: standal with Saturday games because they aren't standalone, so we
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: may be able to consider this.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: That'd be cool. Another line that just jumped out from
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the Sunday slate that just seemed really fishy. Jets or
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: plus three at home against the Rams. It's another week
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: where it's like it's gonna move down and I much
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: rather be on the Rams at minus two and a
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: half than I wouldn't be on the Jets. But like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that right now is she's like a professional side, Like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I can easily see the pros coming on the Jets
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a plus three.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Well, there's no reason they wouldn't come in on the Jets, right,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: They've been on the Jets every true. Yeah, it's true,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: including including by the way, this week, so they were
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the favorites, like it got down to three and went
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: back to three and a half. So I can't see
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: why the why the fit, why the wise guys wouldn't
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: be on the Jets.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just interesting though that the book opened that at three,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Like you just said, though, that's I guess that that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: what them knowing they're going to get action on the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: other side. Uh, what do we do Teddibio against our
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: colts after today who just burned us so horribly because
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they're plus four right now, Tennessee's plus four of the.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Colts, I'm seeing four and a half, and I feel
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like it's so hard to bet this Tennessee. It's fair
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Like I did bet them today at plus six and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: felt decent about it. And then their defense they're.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Up fourteen seven. You're feeling pretty.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Good, feeling pretty good and like their defense could not
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: stop anybody. And Will Levis then just self destructed, like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: every other quarterback who's from that draft class at this point,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just self destructing. So like we couldn't even get Bryce
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Young to continue to be like Bryce Young today. That
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: one feels iffy to me. But but but if you're
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: gonna say we have to get it in, I'll get
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I might, I might. You never know. Uh, interesting number.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: This Minnesota team they're minus two right now against the Seahawks.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That one just sticks out to me because they're playing
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a divisional game Monday and then our short week they're
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: traveling to the Seahawks. So it's like I would want
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to bet it, but if the Seahawks lose tonight, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: might be able to get a three. So I'm not
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: in a total rush, but that's a side that's like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I could see us end up being on the Seahawks
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in that spot, just because it is a good, good
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: number in a good position against the Minnesota team. Like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we just said, in our short week late December, that's
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that's pretty tough for a lot of teams. That one
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: just jumped out to me. I mean, there's no way
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I get you back to Jags again, can I oh?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I circle that in red Jags plus one and a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: half against the How are we not?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'm worried that's gonna flip though, So that's gonna be
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one that fifth flips. Are we gonna avoid it because
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: we've we've had terrible luck with lines that have flip
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: this year from plus the them being favorites.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but like as a better
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: looking at it right now, I want to play the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Jacks like just especially if.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You have a book that is one and a half,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that's that's an nice throw it in a teaser like like.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Like Max Crosby has done for the year, done for
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the year. Like quarterback situation is not very good this
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: team at some point they're not gonna officially tanked, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: they're on track for Cam Wore, Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, they can make a significant upgrade to their team.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: So I like the Jags as underdogs here a lot.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this last one when word, I'm overthinking it, but
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it just feels like it's too easy. Once again, a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: line that feels too big. Commanders are plus four against
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: this Eagles team, where this number feels like it should
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: be plus three. We're getting a nice bump here because
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Washington had a little meltdown, right, they're up seventeen to nothing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Saints come all the way back. On the flip side,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: this Eagles team, who has doubted today just rolled. You know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: public and professional betters alike that bet the Pittsburgh team.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I want to bet this, but again I feels like
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: another number that can I be patient here? Won't this
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: go up rather than come down?
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it's already down to three and a half.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sor right, Well they just told you then, so
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I guess I'll grab the four or not?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Why Ken, Yeah, if you can get a four, you
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: should definitely get it. I see one four out there.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: The rest I'm seeing are three and a half's.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Because again done this game is the hard time I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: was getting about the hurts. I was really just busting
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: their balls where like this, this kind of feels like
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a hurt spot that he'll he'll have a shit game
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that you're talking about, like a letdown game after that
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: performance he just had. Because especially I love hurt. It's
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: twenty five of thirty two. That's not who hurts. His
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: hurts is twenty of thirty two, Like he got five
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: today that were you know, not usually on his record books,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: so a nice letdown spot. And then on the flip
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: side Commanders. I just honestly like the way the their
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: offense can match up with this Eagles team. You know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: McLaurin obviously had an incredible today today with Jayden Daniels,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: but that that read option Jane Daniels and Robinson in
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the backfield, it is pretty deadly like when he pulls
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the ball and runs with it, especially when he's obviously
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: get smarting on not taking the contact. It's a really
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: great weapon to use. And we talked early in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: year when the Eagles play Maid that Ravens team, the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: throws were there because the defense was sucking up. Lamar
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: just had an off night. He was missing the throw.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So I think if Daniels can kind of hit those throws,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the blueprints counting already out there, I can tact this
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Fangio defense. So yeah to me, Chad, I grabbed that
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: plus four. Now, if you're like you just said, if
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: it's down a plus three and a lot of books,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I'll rush now track at the plus four before it moves.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: He is so smooth. Jayden Daniels. I watch a lot
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of that Saints game today, and he makes those run
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: options look like he's moving in slow motion and yet
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: still gliding by everybody and then casually walking out of bounds.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: The way he was able to avoid getting hit today
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: was great. Any other on your radar, because there's one
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: more on my radar.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's a couple more like we can
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: talk about, but I'm not. I won't go too crazy.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: What do you got to trump out to you?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Well, the Miami Dolphins at one and a half again
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, very short home favorite, two teams that are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: essentially out the playoffs. But like Chua had a terrible
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: game today, like really made some bad mistakes, really bad throws.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But I don't know anything about this this Niners team
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: right now. Obviously McCaffrey's out, Deebo seems washed, there's no
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: iu perty was making bad throws. Like I would take
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Miami at home because Miami at home against bad teams
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: is what you do. And the Niners right now are
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: not a good team. And I feel like I'm getting
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: about half point to a point of value on Miami
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: because people have just seen them lose as well. But
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think two is playing at a much better level
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't know the status of Waddle right now,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: but their short to intermediate game can be really good.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And they only lost today because Toutle made Tua made
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: a two or three really bad decisions because they were
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: they were in that game against the Texans the whole time.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly think, like I'm gonna go back and
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: watch that one because I was I wasn't able to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: watch a lot of it, but just looking at the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: box score, just like another day of Miami was probably
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the better team. It was just the QB player that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: kind of bet them. And you know, even defensively, it
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: seemed like they got a lot of pressure on CJ.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: And what you just talked about stays up to me
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: with Brock Purty is you know, Trent Williams has not
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: been there, and you know that does affect him in
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: some way where he's had to deal with a lot
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: of pressure in his face and for some reason, whatever
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: it is going on with him and Kittle, like that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: should be a safety valve, but instead he's turning to
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel, who's just been disappointing all season with the drops,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And you know, I got what they were trying to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: do last week, you mean me and you bet them
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: like we thought I was gonna have like AJ today
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown had a touchdown in one hundred yards receiving.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That's what I honestly thought it was gonna happen with Debo.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It's like you just gonna force feed him to make it,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: make it work out for you. You're not gonna, you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: let it fail again this week. And it did feel
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: like you just said, you're probably learning. Maybe I'm overthinking,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: because I honestly wanted to take the forty nine ers
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: in this spot, but you're probably right where it's like, No,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this is actually when you back Miami, like them at
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: home in this exact spot against bad teams. This is
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: when they dominate and we have to come to terms
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: with like this forty nine ers team is a bad team.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I mean they literally had a guy quit in the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: third quarter. I forgot what quarter it was, maybe it
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't before the half. But it's like that the mojo
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: in that locker room. As bad as it might be
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: in Miami right now, it's nowhere near as bad as
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it's forty nine ers. They are a team that's just
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: going through it right now. So I'm with each other.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good read.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think of your Bucks now at four
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and a half on the road against the Dallas Cowboys.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I hate it because it's like I want to take
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys but now, but the Bucks are a good team,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like we've talked about, like they feel like they are
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a good team. But we've talked this year, they feels
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like they play their competition level. So I don't know.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe I'm just a little speak because I
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: actually watched a deep dece amount of Cowboys Carolina again
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: because like we talked about, were I bet Carolina, I'll
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: be first to admitted I like love them because I
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: got them about one and a half and I was like, oh,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I got the smart number, beat the books. This will
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: land on two or three, and I'll be the smart
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: one hearing now they get rolled because Cooper Rush had
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: to me the best game he's had since he's become
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: a starter. Real off balanced throws, corner pocket of the
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: end zone, like no problem. You know this was a
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: superstar game for the Cowboys too, like Ceedee Lamb Monster Game,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Michael Parsons Monster Game. Can we bet on that? Carrying over?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Chad like that's what we're gonna need, Like we'll need
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to cover this number, but it feels like early here
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the right side at this number is probably the Cowboys,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: like this is it is too much respect to the
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Bucks team with this probably closer to three four and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: a half. That's that's agreedious. So I'm fighting this on
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: it out because I think you're right where. It's like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I know what I have to do here, but we
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: got burned so bad today. It's taken a lot from
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: me wanting to just bet an ugly dog like this
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in Cooper Rush.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to make any bets right now.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Firing away right now. That's how we're so different. I'm
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: sick of I'm like, get the stank off and let
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: me just fire.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Get back into the game. I don't know if I
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm going to make a bet until
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: next Sunday.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I'm burning the tape from this week's brother just moving on.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Gotta all right, because this one is just absolutely stings,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, that's for a line that's one
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: of the more over valued ones. I mean again, we
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: didn't even talk about the Bill's Patriots number, like that's fourteen.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of that this week where
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it's like ugly teams are gonna be really down in
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the pits because there were so many bad blowouts this week, right,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Like the dogs got pretty smoked for the most part
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: this week. And that's what's gonna be really tough for
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: me you to avoid because we've talked about we've been
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: trying to put more favorites in because the favorites have
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: been hitting, and like, this is another week where there's
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: gonna be a bunch of big dogs with value they
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna try to have to avoid in some some
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: way because there's there's just so attempting on, Like right now,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I want to fire away on the Patriots plus fourteen,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: but it's like, can we do that with Josh Allen
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: playing at the lovyes, playing at exactly I'm the same
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: way as you where it's like I don't really want
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: to step in front of.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Them again, so we all let's look, we didn't do
• 43:14
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• 43:15
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• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I just took the Ravens first half because I was
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: just like I want to avoid it got crazy lucky
• 43:22
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