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Carolina Panthers are EMBOLDENED by the BYE to keep first-place and NFC South! | C3 Panthers Podcast · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

• 0:01
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers held their first Sunday night football home game in years, an MVP chance for Bryce Young Reigns.
• 0:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Team Act took over, and the Panthers won despite no horn, no Mike Jackson, no LaGET, and the NFC South Race just got real.
• 0:20
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  [UNKNOWN]: What's up Panther fans?
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's a Tuesday night, brother, and the Carolina Panthers are coming off of victory in the bank on Sunday night football after not having had Sunday night football since 2018, something like that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers have a hope Tony done, and now if you look at this team, we lost to the Browns and the Bears.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get into tonight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, actually, no, wait a second.
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  [UNKNOWN]: CK, how are you, my friend?
• 2:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm in the show.
• 3:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, that's all right.
• 3:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Sometimes it's all we're just so anxious to talk about the Carolina Panthers that we can get ahead of ourselves.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So man, it's a it's a great Tuesday night.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's one that it's a week where.
• 3:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We're oddly thankful that we don't have a Panthers game coming up this week, and that's odd coming off of a long off season of uncertainty around this team, injuries have plagued us left and right, but it seems like in many places we're going to be getting healthy.
• 3:33
  [UNKNOWN]: still there's going to be some questions around our secondary coming out of the by a week, but man, I'll tell you what, this is a good week for a buy and I'm excited to be able to watch some of these teams play this week without wondering what's going on with the Panthers, because I don't know about you guys, but the
• 3:59
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not at all.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's the exact time.
• 4:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, every team needs to be taken seriously.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think one of the things that's awesome about heading into the by week, man, I guess it stinks this year because we have so many injuries facing this team and you just continue to wonder, how do they weather the storm at all of these position groups?
• 4:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Can they get healthy fast enough?
• 4:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Will returning players bring enough and change things to catch momentum for the Carolina Panthers?
• 4:28
  [UNKNOWN]: we've talked about at nauseam in the past about when the by week when you want it I've always wanted them by week kind of in the middle of the season this season it's perfect right where to for the Carolina Panthers can I tell you there is one giant difference here this year with the by week despite those anxieties that surround the injuries
• 4:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I had yearned for the last, I would say five, six, five or six years, it feels like, but the yearned for the by week, for myself, for like an emotional break, a mental respite from the torture and agony that it felt like it was going to be, that it was to be a Carolina Panthers fan.
• 5:13
  [UNKNOWN]: This year, I yearn for the by week to get healthy for the for the Panthers to get healthy for them to get better for them to catch momentum and strike.
• 5:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't have the mental fan fatigue that I've had guys.
• 5:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It is, I mean, I got to say it's just nice with football is fun.
• 5:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, man.
• 5:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, and this and dude, like we're still wondering have we even seen the best of the Carolina Panthers Now we've gotten team back involved in this offense in a way that he wasn't with Conqueror or Wincoker was on the field this season So you just imagine if he comes back if Xavier's a get comes back now There's even things that we could be getting back Taylor mode and
• 6:01
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers might very well be getting healthy at the right time and Tony, we have a corner back who is in the midst even though it's early of an MVP discussion baby, let's go.
• 6:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Tonight's show Carolina Panthers are emboldened by their by week to keep first place in the NFC South.
• 6:27
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers had a hell of a game when it comes to Sunday night football.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to be talking about that in detail.
• 6:34
  [UNKNOWN]: What was this score again?
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  [UNKNOWN]: It was 30.
• 6:36
  [UNKNOWN]: What Carolina Panthers lie in score?
• 6:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I should do all 26, I believe.
• 6:42
  [UNKNOWN]: 32 to 26 and what was a shootout and really I mean the stakes it felt like we're shootout or as a beat down it felt like the Panthers just were shooting and shooting and shooting and at the end just had to withstand a couple of barrages late.
• 6:58
  [UNKNOWN]: tries by the Lions, but it never really felt like the Panthers were at risk in a way.
• 7:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, yes, is that there were concerns, but they did what they needed to do, particularly on offense 32, 26, going into last week.
• 7:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys, to me, it was such a pivotal game for the Carolina Panthers, is that coming out of that game with a loss on the national stage, heading into limping into the Bay,
• 7:26
  [UNKNOWN]: and then coming out of the by having to face what I mean now we're going to talk later on in the show what the equals who the equals are and man how we are perfectly positioned coming off a buy and them coming back from London to just keep this momentum going this game seemed remarkably important to me fellas and the Panthers did it they simplified that importance and now there's
• 7:54
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• 8:33
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, I believe you had some luck with this last week.
• 8:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I did, uh, I, I didn't bet anything NFC South related, but after seeing how the Browns, uh, man handled our offensive line knowing that we were going against the, uh, they were playing the Steelers last week.
• 8:52
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• 9:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But if we look at the NFC, just how this has changed, things have changed, guys, have let me just check my notes from last week.
• 9:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It's right now, the currently, currently, the Panthers are plus 170 to win the division.
• 9:35
  [UNKNOWN]: They, the Falcons have moved into second at plus 185 Saints plus 275.
• 9:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The bucks have fallen to plus a thousand.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So what that means, folks, if you're not familiar with how odd work.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If you place $100 on the Panthers to win, you get 170.
• 9:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But here is how things have changed since last week.
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  [UNKNOWN]: is last week the bucks were plus I think 800 the Saints were in first and to win the division.
• 10:08
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers move from plus 250 to plus 170 the Falcons moved from plus 350 to plus 185
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  [UNKNOWN]: the my bookie market is no longer sees this as a 14 race.
• 10:30
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a three team race and the Panthers are neck and neck.
• 10:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Go to mybookie.ag used to promo code C3P and you can these odds fluctuate.
• 10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I will tell you one of the odds that is important.
• 10:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But let's before I tell you about the price young MVP odds which I have money on several weeks ago.
• 10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: tell you MVP MVP those chance we're in back of America.
• 10:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys Panthers are Falcons like I mean in this division right now and has and is it Lana have they become a real threat since Michael Panics is taking over his quarterback.
• 11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So two things your board also won 90 bucks with my book he died of but two's in the Carolina Panthers between one and seven points.
• 11:16
  [UNKNOWN]: To win is that it is the baby, and then also Tony real quick to be all the hope dealer.
• 11:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the seat three love bomb.
• 11:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It says I'm fired up, Barry.
• 11:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only for the win, but the C3 division community, the cultural key pounding is here.
• 11:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Sam Mills would be proud.
• 11:35
  [UNKNOWN]: one Carolina baby let's go keep pounding brother Tony listen I think right now this Carolina Panthers team we're right where we want to be but we were thinking that the Northern Saints were going to be the competition in the division
• 11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, if we're going to re-examine those losses to the Chicago Bears and the Cleveland Browns for how good of a team they are, you have to look at that wall as against Atlanta and say, man, the next time we play the Falcons, that is not going to be the same team that we played in week two.
• 12:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They look like a fundamentally
• 12:15
  [UNKNOWN]: different football team with Michael Panning's Undercenter now Drink London is a pivotal part of that passing attack and a proud person may catch a football again proud pits and then vision Robinson
• 12:31
  [UNKNOWN]: is on an all-time run right now.
• 12:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That dude is incredible.
• 12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: The Falcons had five rushing touchdowns man.
• 12:39
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, this is a two-dog race between the Panthers and the Falcons.
• 12:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm picking my Panthers, baby.
• 12:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, I've never been more excited about the team this early in the season.
• 12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Really since probably 2015 and 2013, it's that good dude.
• 12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I love what we're doing.
• 13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm riding the wave man.
• 13:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm loving this CK that went over the Falcons while they were hobbled without a quarterback at the end of the season when we're trying to, you know, figure out who are who wins these divisions who's vying for wild cards.
• 13:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter who their quarterback was.
• 13:20
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers have a head to head.
• 13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: when against them at the worst they can do is split in their matches against the Atlanta Falcons.
• 13:29
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think about the, did you see any of the Michael Pinnock's hate last night?
• 13:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I was, I found it strange.
• 13:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I was watching the phone.
• 13:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was watching the game on my phone.
• 13:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Spend so much time invested on Sunday, Saturdays with all the football.
• 13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: you can only ignore your family so much.
• 13:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So, which sometimes you have to make concessions and hang out with your family and keep an eye on it on the side.
• 13:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So, I'm watching the game.
• 13:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't get to hear the commentary.
• 13:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Watching Twitter on the computer and people, Panther fans, I was a little stunned.
• 14:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They're just shit in all over Michael Pinnick's.
• 14:04
  [UNKNOWN]: and like he can't throw it.
• 14:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, and look, as he had a marginal game, it felt like when I checked his stats at the time, I don't know if it was third quarter, but yeah, like 170 yards, you know, having turnovers, you know, his relatively efficient, I mean, and this was on the back of B John and that defense, man, that felt his defense.
• 14:24
  [UNKNOWN]: They are not to be mess with or try for with.
• 14:26
  [UNKNOWN]: They cause problems around the four of these teams that they're playing,
• 14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... were you surprised what you say have you did you hear any of those marmor sicker i didn't hear any of the members of interest to find out why because i mean he went fifteen for twenty and i know it wasn't like a uh... jumping off of the stat sheets and total like all the numbers and what have you but it they don't need to when you have bejan robinson
• 14:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, like at the end of the day, they can essentially run on the, you know, the, the workhorse that is, uh, be John and then that's going to leave.
• 15:00
  [UNKNOWN]: If you didn't, if you watched the, even just a little bit of the game, which I did get to watch a little bit of it.
• 15:05
  [UNKNOWN]: What worked for them is they ran the ball well enough to where the wide receivers were running wide open.
• 15:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 15:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He underneath the middle of the field stuff.
• 15:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't anything flashy.
• 15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't have to be at some elite arm talent, even though I think he can place the ball and really incredible spots.
• 15:28
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't need to be elite.
• 15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: All he needed to do was get the ball where it needed to be because
• 15:33
  [UNKNOWN]: like there were multiple big chunk plays 20 30 40 yard plays a lot of run after the catch a lot of yack for these guys was a lot of yack, but I'm not willing to take those yards away from them because Bryce has some of that too with a not not as much I would say with this season in the past.
• 15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Well,
• 15:56
  [UNKNOWN]: you only the main thing is you can't be a liability in pennies has not been a liability.
• 16:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Do I think he has shown that he's elite and that offense doesn't yet?
• 16:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that I mean if he can stay healthy, I mean he's going to be their franchise guy.
• 16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's much to doubt about that at this point.
• 16:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Or what I thought was this is he didn't he's doing good enough to make their their offense um meaning for it more than one to do and I found some irony and I just thought this is Panther fans were just letting it let them have it about he can't throw I was like I went I was like why are they I saw these tweets and I was like man they're up 20
• 16:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is stats he didn't have any it wasn't and it was like, oh, he can't throw in underneath or getting all this extra and I thought man That's kind of how the Panthers tried to need it to win with Bryce Yeah, and that's our couple years.
• 16:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's also be real right now.
• 16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: This Atlanta Falcons offensive lying
• 16:58
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a damn good online and now they're doing enough to keep pinning protected for him to be that game manager and Tony CK we all know you don't have to be playing at an MVP level like our very own quarterback might be good segue you don't have to be
• 17:17
  [UNKNOWN]: you don't have to be playing at that level to operate in offense to precision.
• 17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And right now, Bizarre Robinson, Drake London, they are looking like they are for real.
• 17:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Michael Pindings has facilitated that and look, how about this?
• 17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's early right now the NFC South has been kind of the butt of everyone's jokes because of, you know, how up and down we are, but let's say the quiet point out loud.
• 17:44
  [UNKNOWN]: This division is going to be a slow fast, come December, and I think that there's, you know, really an opportunity for there to be a three-way don't fight between the Falcons, Panthers and Saints come to the end of the season.
• 18:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight.
• 18:05
  [UNKNOWN]: The perfect time to talk about a guy who is getting MVP chance and had another hell of a game.
• 18:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And not only did he have a game, uh, there's really the biggest stage.
• 18:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's starting to turn.
• 18:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It really feels like it's starting to turn a corner to where you're not just seeing potential flashes, but you're seeing command and control.
• 18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, tell us about what the price young talk right now in the context of how he's performed on Sunday and in the context of how he's performed throughout the year and also in relation to how he's performing throughout the league if you look at other
• 18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, in that bank of America stadium that we still love on Sunday night, there were chance of MVP, Mike K. Hardham too, whether it was home or treatment or sheer appreciation from the Panthers fans, quarterback Bryce Young has unquestionably positioned themselves well to start the season and Tony denumbers the purpose in the pudding.
• 19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only are all the
• 19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But you can visually see the difference in biases and from the confidence to the arm talent that mastered third and 14 bullet that Bryce Young threw to the sideline was absolutely immaculate.
• 19:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And listen to some of these stats so far, 1,268 passing yards.
• 19:39
  [UNKNOWN]: first in the NFL, nine passing touchdowns, it's tied for third, 63 passing first downs.
• 19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's first, 55 completion percentage of 10 plus yards that first 13 completed of 25 plus yards that first in the NFL told me there is a lick near your first.
• 20:01
  [UNKNOWN]: 411 pass yards under pressure.
• 20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: That's first for passing touchdowns under pressure.
• 20:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Also first 321 deep passing yards first let's go
• 20:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go through all of them, dude, seven passing touchdown on outside of the number throws tied for first, 534 passing yards on outside numbers at second, 928 passing yards versus zone coverage, that's second, and 340 passing yards versus man coverage, Tony
• 20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: we have never seen Bryce Dome play through this level when so many different eyes were on him this is not the Alabama Bryce this is the real Carolina Reaper Bryce Dome and I'm certainly happy to see him do it man
• 21:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that this is one of those things that if you have been a doubter of Cam Newton of Bryce Chung, rather, over the course of his career, this is one of those moments where you're so thankful you were wrong, right?
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that at the end of the day, most every person that has been
• 21:28
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, I would say doubtful of his ability to play in the NFL.
• 21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, not entirely unwarranted positions to hold, especially given the way that we've performed as a team up to this point, I think, you know, but a lot of those people are so happy.
• 21:43
  [UNKNOWN]: that we're not having to start over scratch with somebody else in that we're because odds are this is going to happen again.
• 21:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we see the likes of Cam Ward.
• 21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We see the likes of many of these guys that don't have the ability to come in and start just playing at a high level.
• 21:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to develop and that's what I think's going to help for Nando Mendoza over an Oakland or in Las Vegas more than anything is his ability to sit behind Kirk Cousins and kind of get a feel for the game without the pressure that's involved with being a number one overall pick.
• 22:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that one of the things that has been talked about, Dan Orlovsky was talking about it with Bryce, and it was, it's not often that you see a player.
• 22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: get a better arm talent as they get in their time in the NFL.
• 22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Arm talents, one of those things that you have or you don't have.
• 22:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's been, he was talking about how Bryce Young's arm strength is, is has improved.
• 22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no other way.
• 22:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it has.
• 22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it has.
• 22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no other way that you can look at it.
• 22:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a question.
• 22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're seeing the, the, the, the, the short passes that come out with zip all of a sudden where I don't think we felt like there's been zip before.
• 22:52
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, I saw somebody talk about this.
• 22:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The like somebody, um, it was, uh, one of the QB kind of people, uh, I mean, is he a Kirkpin Kirk, or I think it was Kirkpin Kirk former EC part, by the way.
• 23:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And he said, man, and it was after game one or something.
• 23:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It was just like, I mean, this, this, this, this, the ball is, no, he said, was the ball's
• 23:17
  [UNKNOWN]: and a Panther fan comes in.
• 23:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, it wasn't spending the same.
• 23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's been, he's always been, and I, I thought this is, can we take a compliment first of all?
• 23:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
• 23:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
• 23:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think this, and this is relative to what we were talking about with the Saints and kind of funny here, is like Bryce was 21, 22 when he came in the league.
• 23:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 23:39
  [UNKNOWN]: he's growing and he's going to be you would hope that he was developing he hadn't meet met his full physical man potential just yet not to say he couldn't do things not to say he wasn't a man not that but like you can hope that he develops and I think there is a possibility he gets strong he's gotten stronger or
• 24:02
  [UNKNOWN]: the ball is coming out more and I'm coincidentally you can look at the Saints and say hey they're one in three and they got a quarter back this 39.
• 24:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is about to start collecting a R.P.
• 24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, Tony, I just said the quiet part on out loud on Twitter, people think of me as
• 24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: but what I am telling you is that I have no reason to make things up.
• 24:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I have always wanted we as a collective secret religion, have always wanted, but young to meet his highest potential, but we did not have anywhere near enough evidence.
• 24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: to see that he was ever going to turn into a franchise quarterback this year he is doing everything that we have asked of him at such a high level and he has 100% gained some mustard on that arm talent dude the ball is different Tony I do not remember this exact same level of force and power
• 25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: that Bryce is going with 60 yards down the field.
• 25:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's good.
• 25:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it was Mario's idea.
• 25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: In terms of tight windows, I mean, listen, right now, we've been sort of monitoring this all season Tony, but if Bryce keeps up at this same pace, he's going track for 5,389 passing yards.
• 25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be the third most in the single season ever and 43 touchdowns.
• 25:45
  [UNKNOWN]: The current Carolina Panthers record itself by Steve Burline at 436 passing yards and 36 touchdowns.
• 25:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We have been moving in the MVP convo.
• 25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: we have been monitoring it and what is that been the ideas like it's through three three you're like oh it's got like at at some point that you know five thousand breaking these rules forever you know it's it's got a cool got to come down down to earth and my man only gets got hotter and increase the statline when it comes to
• 26:22
  [UNKNOWN]: This is funny.
• 26:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I was just going to bet this is incredible.
• 26:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I was going to sit here and say this is that right now This is the best for game stretch of India Panthers quarterback ever right now Bryce has
• 26:39
  [UNKNOWN]: 1268 passing yards.
• 26:42
  [UNKNOWN]: He is 101 for 162 a tips.
• 26:46
  [UNKNOWN]: He has a 63.62.3 completion percentage, nine touchdowns, two interceptions.
• 26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And right now is average in 317 yards a game.
• 26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Now you want to go to the first
• 27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: eight hundred and nine passing yards he had a 55.4 completion percentage seven touchdowns two interceptions two hundred and two yards per game these numbers these passing numbers
• 27:22
  [UNKNOWN]: are so disparate.
• 27:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And Bryce Young is a clipsing them in a way.
• 27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Now a couple of things we have to bring into the conversation.
• 27:32
  [UNKNOWN]: This cannot only be an apples for apples conversation when it comes
• 27:40
  [UNKNOWN]: to be a league MVP and to continue that you have to have a team that ultimately rises on all occasions and the question is can the Carolina Panthers form a complete team like they did in 2015 or round him not on the offense the questions then loom
• 27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: to the defensive side of the ball because that 2015 defense gave the Carolina Panthers offense opportunity juice and excitement that then allowed them to capitalize and don't forget the first four games of 2015 Cam Newton had 195 Russian yards and two rushing touchdowns as well.
• 28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, this I think is though what I want to do is celebrate Bryce here as having this for game stretch is almost even better than we can even know right now unless you start to think about it in the context of these of these circumstances and history and across the league Cody.
• 28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and listen, what, and look, that came during every piece of season, that was magical.
• 28:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That was some of my best moments as a Panthers fan, the excitement, the release, and Tony, I know it's early, and listen, eventually we're going to get into the conversation that we had a little bit with Greg on the post game show that we have to put together back to backwind.
• 29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Because right now, we have a trend of looking like world builders just to come crashing back down to earth.
• 29:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So part of you gets a little PTSD, you're like, is this a mirage?
• 29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And remember, Tony, you see, hey, you guys know I'm famous for saying the first six weeks of the NFL season.
• 29:25
  [UNKNOWN]: They're just that.
• 29:26
  [UNKNOWN]: They're a mirage.
• 29:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't know who the good teams are
• 29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: But man, when you're looking to teams that we've lost to, when you're looking through a resilience that we have playing good football, even when we're healthy, now you have a buying coming up and you're really going to get back some players that are going to even further help your offense.
• 29:51
  [UNKNOWN]: like Ben, the Panthers seemed like we were really poised to battle it out for this division and come out on top.
• 29:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's because we have a quarterback that's just playing some of the very best football.
• 30:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And being a fellow, more passing yards in Jericho, Tyler Schuck, Matthew Stafford, and Joe Burrow.
• 30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young has arrived and I'd never felt like I could say that before.
• 30:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's finish up the Bryce Young Conversation.
• 30:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Then I want to return back to the just game itself and the Panthers went on Sunday night football.
• 30:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young was at 329 yards.
• 30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He had two touchdowns.
• 30:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He was 29 for 41.
• 30:35
  [UNKNOWN]: This is, no, no, again, we're talking no turnovers.
• 30:40
  [UNKNOWN]: No interceptions.
• 30:41
  [UNKNOWN]: This has been, I think, not only
• 30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's an undervalued story to his success at this point.
• 30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You can, it's not just big numbers, big plays, but this is coming with him being an elite protector of the football in the way he's doing it.
• 31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, you saw what was it?
• 31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: The charge and the seahogs, I think it was the first game ever where on the first play of each opening drive that both through an interception,
• 31:13
  [UNKNOWN]: fumbles you have not had the mistakes it has been precision point and here is I couldn't tell you the beginner this price opened up 11 for 11 in this game right now he has 1260 yards passing nine touchdowns 200 exceptions tell us about this this performance yeah you almost I feel like every now
• 31:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I asked in Atlanta, was that Bryce's best performance ever?
• 31:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And now you're sitting here going, I mean, there's an argument.
• 31:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think right here that this could be Bryce's best game ever.
• 31:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Telling it didn't happen, but one day shot.
• 31:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, really.
• 31:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's the fact that you're saying that with only one pass that went past the 20 20 yard marker is is just showing you health surgical he was in my opinion, more the felt more explosive than that, but you're right, you had these two passes the sideline catch by to that deep when that was a touchdown right, yep.
• 32:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, if I can, I'd like to make a parallel, when we look back at Cam Newton, and of course we're going to talk about Cam.
• 32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Many people, myself included, would tell you that his coming out party nationally, where everybody saw what kind of quarterback the Carolina Panthers had was 2013.
• 32:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The New England Patriots came to Bank of America Stadium and
• 32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: and Cam Newton bald out of control.
• 32:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He was evasive, he was running around.
• 32:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Remember, this was the camera at the very end.
• 32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke, he actually kind of got away with the hold on Rob Grown, Kasky, and the back of the end zone.
• 33:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But that was the game on Sunday night football.
• 33:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe it was the end of football.
• 33:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Where Cam... And that was our last win on...
• 33:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, people felt like the Carolina Panthers had, or that Cam Newton rather had arrived.
• 33:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He had arrived in the big time.
• 33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That was his coming out part.
• 33:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I kind of feel like when we look back on Bryce Young's career,
• 33:28
  [UNKNOWN]: There's potential that we can be pointing to before Sunday night football at home against the Detroit Lions dressed to the 9s quite literally in all black and care and Bryce Young had his coming out party.
• 33:47
  [UNKNOWN]: That looked like the emergence of the guy that we want to be our quarterback
• 33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I had jotted down in my notes is this a hot streak or break through and that's what you want, right?
• 34:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You want this not only to be more than a hot streak, but to be in retrospect the break through that you're talking about that all of a sudden make these other questions like is he a top 10 quarterback, not is he playing like a top 10 quarterback, but is he
• 34:24
  [UNKNOWN]: a top 10 quarterback.
• 34:25
  [UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, those conversations become real.
• 34:28
  [UNKNOWN]: If this is a break through more than just a heater, right?
• 34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And on top of that, what will continue to become more and more of a conversation at this pace is extended talk.
• 34:44
  [UNKNOWN]: coming real and I think at this pace there's no way it can't but can't be.
• 34:49
  [UNKNOWN]: The best part about this guys is we're finally I think at a point of I mean I think we're at this point.
• 34:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it takes any more or what will happen in the future that could change this but I think we're at the
• 35:11
  [UNKNOWN]: conversation to how good can Bryce become conversation.
• 35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 35:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, do you have people in our chat saying that he looks like a more athletic version of Drew Breeze and in our draft process, before we even drafted Bryce Young, I'm saying that's the best of what you could hope for from Bryce Young that he does become this incredibly mobile field
• 35:38
  [UNKNOWN]: veteran that just sees every part of the field um that's really what is turned into telling I did you know I know we're crushing over Bryce but it feels deservedly so I didn't want to read this short paragraph okay from next year in stats
• 35:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, his four bright songs, 14 completions on endbreakers tied his career high as it told 160 yards and touchdown on such throws.
• 36:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Young was pressured on 40% of his job backs after facing pressure rates over 50% each of the last two weeks and he completed seven or 15 passes for 103 yards and a score under pressure.
• 36:24
  [UNKNOWN]: John leaves the NFL with 411 passing yards under pressure and is tied for the league with four touchdowns following the week for Sunday slate and Tony remember early in Bryce owns career that offensive line was so bad that it's like if there was any pressure on Bryce you knew that the play was over before it started
• 36:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce was just not built for that moment at that time, but now considering the fact that the Panthers offensive line is not good Tony, it is not good CK and yet Bryce Young is still putting up this kind of performance.
• 37:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It shows you what was always possible for him and how he has really
• 37:17
  [UNKNOWN]: when I genuinely think even some of his most ardent supporters probably didn't even think coming.
• 37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think if you were to, let me ask it this way.
• 37:34
  [UNKNOWN]: If you had said last year that
• 37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: We were going into a game, missing our starting right tackle, our starting left tackle, our starting right guard, our left guard.
• 37:49
  [UNKNOWN]: With no real answer, it's center, Bryce taking on the most pressures that he's ever had in his career up to this point in the season.
• 37:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We were going to be down, wide receiver 2 and wide receiver 3.
• 38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: We were down or running back to Jonathan Brooks.
• 38:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And all of those things, right?
• 38:12
  [UNKNOWN]: If we had said that, going into our last year, what would you expect the outcome to be?
• 38:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think the way I kind of, instead of just like answering the questions and saying,
• 38:28
  [UNKNOWN]: What Cody was saying C. K. 2 was like his most ardent supporters and things like this for me.
• 38:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It was I think a lot of people, whether if you just exclude the people that didn't think Bryce could work, right, but put put me in the middle is like man, root for the guy can see moments where he's played well, see moments where he didn't play a lot better, like to see
• 38:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I said that like what I wanted to see going into this season was significant development on all fronts, whether it be the team, canalice, you know, going forward, Bryce stepping forward as a quarterback.
• 39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what where what Cody's bringing up is the bananas part of this is the evolutionary
• 39:25
  [UNKNOWN]: potential to better, to getting better, to now we believe in him.
• 39:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He like skip, he's skipping a step now and is going to like, I'm fucking balling all over everybody.
• 39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: The best fucking quarterback you've ever seen.
• 39:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And then it makes that even more wild when you bring up your questions, see, or not questions, but your point is that only makes this evolutionary jump.
• 39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: more awesome or awesome or the more insane or like more I know I don't even know I was like I don't know if any of these are words but the idea is that not only did you could not foresee that evolution not I won't say foresee but you didn't even need that evolutionary jump to this scale for you to be excited about his development and him leading the team but then you put it behind he
• 40:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We I didn't even know that this would happen or expect this happen behind a good line with a good right like he's doing this under circle stances that in no case should he be to answer your questions like that well that's that's kind of going to what Cody was saying the point of my my statement was
• 40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: is before the season started, we had Ricky Bobadi on, right?
• 40:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 40:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And we were talking about, you know, there was some things that were being said were like, you know, we don't really expect this to be a breakout year.
• 40:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Bryce hasn't really shown it.
• 40:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And one of the things I was saying was,
• 40:56
  [UNKNOWN]: every single year, he has gotten exponentially better in comparison to the year before.
• 41:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And that exponentially was a rich word when you use it because that's like such a big, but now the word is definitely justified now.
• 41:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But here's the thing, right?
• 41:17
  [UNKNOWN]: When you start at one, right in year one, let's just use math as an example.
• 41:23
  [UNKNOWN]: five times one is five.
• 41:25
  [UNKNOWN]: That doesn't seem that's not a big jump, but you jumped up four, right?
• 41:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it is, yeah.
• 41:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, and then so year two was not great, but he started the turn it on, right?
• 41:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Now you start to say, okay, well, it's five times five.
• 41:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's 25.
• 41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not you're seeing the same level like percentage of improvement.
• 41:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But because you're going off the higher thing, it's exponential, right?
• 41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And so now you say, what's 25 times five going into us fourth year?
• 41:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's 125, right?
• 41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't want to advance words and do get too much.
• 41:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But I thought when you, when you guys were talking, that exponential was rich for his improvement from year two to three.
• 42:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, I thought it was significant double, you know, the doubling is not exponential, right?
• 42:15
  [UNKNOWN]: He did definitely get better from he did.
• 42:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 42:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, and then again, we're menacing words.
• 42:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But like you said, Cody, it's like,
• 42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: exponential is the word to you.
• 42:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, now there is no other words to do.
• 42:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe if you're wanted to there isn't one up.
• 42:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey real quick.
• 42:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you guys want to hear Cam Newton's thoughts on Bryce home for form.
• 42:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 42:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do it.
• 42:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't notice that he said anything.
• 42:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 42:42
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 42:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no momento.
• 42:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I can't wait to tell you about the odds for Bryce young MPP and how they're trending.
• 42:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you have to accept you you're set in on the number that you Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're glad you got in when you did I'm gonna go.
• 43:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm significant.
• 43:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would say notably it's not like he's not favorite Oh, it's not but all right.
• 43:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah You call the Bama Bryce I call it that Bryce versus Atlanta because there's not another
• 43:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, this might as you've been raised in, you know, this is an election on the field.
• 43:27
  [UNKNOWN]: The thing that sticks out to me is he has a very unorthodox drop.
• 43:35
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, not to get too technical, but you know, there was a, there was a, there was a, the program and a Sunday football where there were, there were comparing him to Yeah.
• 43:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 43:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Drew Breeze.
• 43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, How it's just smaller stature, but the thing that Bryce does amazing is
• 43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Every time he throws the football, his momentum is always going forward.
• 44:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I told you that was a big demand.
• 44:03
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a big money.
• 44:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I was always guilty of.
• 44:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They would think that I was throwing off my back foot, but that's where I was generating my power.
• 44:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So for Bryce, he generates his power from obviously the ground up.
• 44:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But he's always moving forward to be able to do so.
• 44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: he ain't getting no taller.
• 44:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So certain moves and maneuvers and techniques and different styles that he has, he's felt comfortable with moving in a pocket, moving out of a pocket, get it to certain reason, getting it to certain throws and knowing how he has to
• 44:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so Cam's room is loading kind of what we were just talking about Tony that it does seem like he has made some mechanical changes to the way that he throws the football.
• 44:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This is confidence changes.
• 45:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, but not but also actual mechanical.
• 45:05
  [UNKNOWN]: changes like the the I feel like okay remember I would use to call him tipy toes because you're going from his tipy toes and don't feel like that is a problem with him this year I feel like his footwork is much more underneath him and feel like his generating
• 45:23
  [UNKNOWN]: former power and very famously both Joe Burrow and Josh Allen did a couple things to change their doing mechanics that just took their game to the next level and it feels like Bryce Young did the same thing and some version of his drop back and his doing motion that just made him be able to
• 45:53
  [UNKNOWN]: That crosses momentum a lot of forward momentum.
• 45:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I told you guys one of the big differences is that when things are not only is it the pocket He's stepping up into pocket, but he's eyes forward momentum forward moving forward.
• 46:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I've said this all season.
• 46:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been excited about it guys I want to take some calls real quick before we move on but oh, two things before we move on from Bryce I
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• 46:44
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• 46:47
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• 47:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Final thing and we're taking these calls I want to ask you just about the over all game and man I know where we're getting sucked into this conversation, but how can you not when you're excited 32, 26 on Sunday night football, six scoring drives after the opening
• 47:55
  [UNKNOWN]: was this for Kenalis in his era, Cody, to me this was a huge win, because listen and there's something that we're going to talk about later, too.
• 48:06
  [UNKNOWN]: One, I feel like his ability to give up the reins of play going to Brad is, has undeniable been for the better.
• 48:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and good his, your set.
• 48:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he did a lot him to manage the game at, I think, a better level.
• 48:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and I think that was a good thing for him to do and he showed, you know, whatever you say about the game can Alice, he couldn't make the hard decision when it matters.
• 48:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He made the decision to bench Bryce.
• 48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And now he's made the decision to elevate Brad, it's to offensive coordinator.
• 48:42
  [UNKNOWN]: another thing Tony and I think this is what separates the really good teams from the rest and it does give me a lot of hope when your team is injured and you're missing players.
• 48:56
  [UNKNOWN]: do you have the potential to win meaningful football games with the next man up mentality.
• 49:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We were missing two of our starting corners and we're going to talk about them later.
• 49:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk about the key of the balance.
• 49:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But
• 49:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, this was not a perfect defensive performance, but the Panthers were capable of doing enough to win this football game.
• 49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: When it mattered, when you're missing a bunch of your key players on both offense and defense.
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you not give Dave Canalis some of the credit for that culture and that toughness and that ability to keep on pounding, kick and ask while we have the opportunity to do so?
• 49:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you have to attribute some of that to Dave Canalis and to his leadership.
• 49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I would argue that the next biggest test of Dave Canalis's coaching career is going to be
• 49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Can he get a W against a realling Philadelphia Eagles coming off of a buy week because if it can Then man he could end up being a coach of the New York candidate just like Bryson is an MVP candidate I sell me myself um
• 50:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is one of the biggest wins for Dave Canales, or it can be, you know how you meant, you said that we could come back to this game and the lore of Bryce Young is that I don't know if this is the biggest win right now, but it can be one of the biggest wins
• 50:46
  [UNKNOWN]: if this translates into momentum and shift, you know, it is, is it, is it beating the rams at home last year or is it more than that?
• 50:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it has the potential to be more than that.
• 51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm sorry, I'm tired.
• 51:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, are we going to talk about Dave Canalis and the offensive play calling?
• 51:08
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• 51:09
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• 51:10
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• 51:39
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• 51:41
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• 51:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
• 51:45
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• 51:46
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• 51:48
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• 51:49
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• 51:51
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• 51:54
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• 52:16
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• 52:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, what a good victory, Monday, man.
• 52:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And work and everything's going good, man.
• 52:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, what a win, Sunday.
• 52:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Couldn't call in.
• 52:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I was at the bank with my father.
• 52:31
  [UNKNOWN]: One of the best games I'd ever been to.
• 52:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So happy we won.
• 52:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So happy we moved the two and two, man.
• 52:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Just pumped about this team, man.
• 52:42
  [UNKNOWN]: All these injuries, all this adversity we've gone through, all the question marks around Bryce Young, we finally have to buy a week and a quarter of actual and like an MVP, Cedero, McMillan, 14 catches, 192 yards, who touchdowns, unreal stuff man, like I haven't seen
• 53:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That amount of being able to be in sync from a cubion-wide receiver since the Cam and Smitty Days and Cam and Smitty were only together for three years.
• 53:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's here's unreal man and Bryce is doing all this with this offensive line being pressured man like that's not the defense play fine, you know like you're going to give up points to a top three offense, but gives only having 46 rushing yards is huge man.
• 53:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Giant.
• 53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Devon Lloyd.
• 53:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We held in the bill bowls got you know a key four down stop, two key four down stops, you know, in brincy with a huge factor at the end with tons of guys out man like he
• 53:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, all this talk about like, oh, is this season over?
• 53:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Are we going to be able to, you know, these injuries?
• 53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, man, I was never believing in that man.
• 53:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I kept saying this division is terrible.
• 53:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's worse than last year and look at you.
• 53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: You're sitting first in the division, next to an Atlanta, you know, under us as they land a fountains, who we already beat, which is a huge win, just of how things are going with the free falling Saints at one in three and the bucks who are, you know, their season's cooked.
• 54:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, man, exciting stuff.
• 54:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm actually so happy to buy here.
• 54:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, love-penders football, but there's so many injuries, man.
• 54:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, hopefully, we'd get worn back up to the buy and Damien Lewis and Taylor Moin.
• 54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like, you know, shout out true, Robert, too.
• 54:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like if this offensive line can just be like 75% of what we're hoping it was going to be.
• 54:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, knowing like the injuries we had before the season and the Taylor Moin stuff,
• 54:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll also shout out Darren Wallerman, like this dude came up to couch and he's been phenomenal.
• 54:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say this to a man, like maybe current's for a sound man, like he's got to come back in four to five weeks and show he can retain his spot because Metchi and Tremaine has looked pretty good, but you know, we'll take this week, hope the guys rest, get healthy, and we'll be ready for a very banged up underwhelming Philadelphia Evo scene.
• 55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's keep it going, brace for MVP, keep motherfuckin' poundin'.
• 55:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep poundin'!
• 55:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, look, it very well said to me, you know, tell me right now things, things look okay and I know you put an infographic in the presentation that kind of pertain to all of this, but when you look at what's coming next for Carolina, dude, it doesn't feel daunting.
• 55:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It does like it's not at all.
• 55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Two weeks ago, three weeks ago,
• 55:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I still do think that the biggest test is probably going to come from the Denver Broncos soon, but due to Philly, Jim Hercs has below a 50% completion percentage, sick one, Bartley is hurt.
• 55:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We really don't know what team we're going to be playing when we do play Philly.
• 56:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is going to do nothing but provide us go the opportunities to show who we really are.
• 56:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, you know, so many great points that he made there, we can, you know, I won't say we can't get.
• 56:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to spend so much, we spend so much time on Bryce, we spend so much time on this.
• 56:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to send so much time on Tet, but he's right is Darren Waller coming in here and look, you had Jitevian Sanders as a healthy scratch.
• 56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You have Tommy Tramble, Evan Mitchell, Mitchell Evans, right?
• 56:39
  [UNKNOWN]: not have a Mitchell and water and these guys are factors, while or think of this is a late, there's a couple of late additions to this team.
• 56:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So you can be upset with what Dan Morgan's done in some cases.
• 56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to say upset, but you can be critical.
• 57:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You can say, I don't think we need to just go
• 57:05
  [UNKNOWN]: just because we love him and he has done so much good.
• 57:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that even someone wearing the crown can have some criticism, but well, coming to Darren Waller, the Bobby Ocarick A additions are these kind of late ads that aren't just like,
• 57:22
  [UNKNOWN]: preventing the ship from sinking on top of that they are rise like the depouring the ship.
• 57:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it's a great point from Anthony is how much they dare and wall are is contributing.
• 57:40
  [UNKNOWN]: weekly.
• 57:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm almost like to this point is like, I don't like the old Darren Waller camp block.
• 57:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He's just to receive her.
• 57:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like people just say that shit.
• 57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like he's a liability when he's on the field.
• 57:56
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not at all.
• 57:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, I'm going to bring up a chart here in a second.
• 58:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He's getting some of the most separation of any tight end in the NFL right now.
• 58:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Like if anything, you can envision him as a much bigger part.
• 58:12
  [UNKNOWN]: of this, of this entire offense going forward.
• 58:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, shout out Edward Salamengo, Darren Waller has the highest separation percentage at a vault in that field tight ends.
• 58:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Time in Trimble has the third highest.
• 58:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So do we have a couple of tidings that are really being more utilized in this Carolina passing attack?
• 58:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I'm heartened.
• 58:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony, I said this earlier.
• 58:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like there is potential that we have not even yet seen the best of what the Carolina Panthers are able to do and that.
• 58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Now imagine if we can put the pieces that we wanted.
• 58:52
  [UNKNOWN]: around this team, whether it be offensive line, maybe adding back, maybe chart, working can come back and be a contributor.
• 59:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but like imagine what this team can be or hopefully will be, can if this is what they are now, can they weather the storm?
• 59:12
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that later.
• 59:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And can they get better?
• 59:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next goal.
• 59:21
  [UNKNOWN]: a wonderful wonderful post game show that was a damn good show shout out to all three all for real thank you i might work right now look on instagram i'm pretty sure i just noticed that the fanfers are expected to sign marco wilson and i was saw a lot better nick happened to the practice squad marco wilson he played with uh... car news and he played
• 59:47
  [UNKNOWN]: for the bangles.
• 59:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's short-standing with New England, but they released him and shit like that.
• 59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he played for Miami, too.
• 59:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I don't know nothing about these guys that they're on the practice.
• 59:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody does, but I don't worry.
• 1:00:00
  [UNKNOWN]: The thing is, with the Panthers being willing, they pick up Dante Jackson.
• 1:00:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Remember him?
• 1:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our skin, dude, with the birds.
• 1:00:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember Dante.
• 1:00:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, it's had the big bird.
• 1:00:12
  [UNKNOWN]: A lot too, you, man.
• 1:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's so little that's corner we ever fucking had was Chris Gamble yes, I said Chris Gamble.
• 1:00:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, say this is before You know Josh Norman my opinion the best corn we had was Chris Gamble number one and You know, you know, I'm trying to say and another dude right so like at corner back in the day was damn Ricky Martin's Jr.
• 1:00:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I love that dude
• 1:00:43
  [UNKNOWN]: because he will pick that ball off in the heart beat and he can hit like a mother fucker.
• 1:00:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah man, so basically this Chris Gamble, Josh Norman, you know what I'm saying, the best two ones we ever had, my opinion, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm still happy about that when we got against Detroit man, and I said this shit two weeks ago, y'all remember, I have a feeling we can beat Philadelphia.
• 1:01:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I really do, because the next couple of things were facing their defense, not really
• 1:01:13
  [UNKNOWN]: because I know we get a little bit of a thing that I think we get green bay and then we get tamper.
• 1:01:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So we can fuck around before you know it'd be five or two.
• 1:01:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we don't be some shit.
• 1:01:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But anyway, give me a toss on that y'all.
• 1:01:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep going.
• 1:01:28
  [UNKNOWN]: A couple of things that stand out about this.
• 1:01:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Detroit Lions game was given all the injuries, the Panthers face, the ability to contain
• 1:01:41
  [UNKNOWN]: contain him, we did that well and contain is being less than generous is that they held him to ultimately what I would say is a non-factor for a lead player kind of like what they did to be John in a sense is there's gonna be yards there's gonna be some stats but they held him on the Russian yards he was I mean he had moments where it could have been
• 1:02:10
  [UNKNOWN]: better.
• 1:02:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he could have threatened.
• 1:02:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But then you have all of these weapons, guys, you have Laporta at tight in.
• 1:02:21
  [UNKNOWN]: You have a Mont, say it for me, because you always get you wrong.
• 1:02:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm in Ross St. Brown.
• 1:02:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm in Ross St. Brown.
• 1:02:27
  [UNKNOWN]: The cadence is important.
• 1:02:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Who is arguably
• 1:02:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, he is one of the best receivers in the league.
• 1:02:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Somehow, I know the Panthers gave up big plays, but they somehow also kept these guys under wraps.
• 1:02:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But there is an issue facing Carolina right now.
• 1:02:49
  [UNKNOWN]: There is a corner back crisis with JC Horn and Mike Jackson both on I or we go to a Caleb Evans who has been
• 1:03:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Not this poor guy to look at the internet.
• 1:03:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He was pick he was 11.
• 1:03:10
  [UNKNOWN]: They targeted him 14 times.
• 1:03:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He gave up 11 catches 1097 yards.
• 1:03:15
  [UNKNOWN]: One touchdown.
• 1:03:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He did have some tackles in there and I was thinking back after the post game show and where CK is like this guy fucking sucks.
• 1:03:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and I was like, oh, I mean, I didn't feel like I leaned into the sucked.
• 1:03:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this.
• 1:03:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to, I want to say justify that I have two things I want to put out is no one knows who the fuck this guy is.
• 1:03:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Really?
• 1:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, this guy had no meaningful place on the Panthers prior to this week, really.
• 1:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 1:03:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And there was I just come back to that one like to me where I just was not ready to just be like I want to kick this guy and talk shit about him is there was that TD break up.
• 1:04:09
  [UNKNOWN]: where he got his helmet ripped off, which I think somehow there should be a penalty on the offensive player.
• 1:04:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't think you should be able to rip their helmet off.
• 1:04:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know we've probably have to decline it because we don't want to touch down.
• 1:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that was a penalty that was so ridiculous.
• 1:04:29
  [UNKNOWN]: of transgression that like we should have not they should like lose a dead like they should be penalized not like he's fucking head was about ripped off no I think this is that this guy has no experience in the team you put him in a very difficult situation so I'm not saying great like I don't want to give so much grace I just want a little context
• 1:04:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But Caleb Evans, I think I got his name right, Caleb Evans, tough task and facing this and boy, did they go after him, Cody?
• 1:05:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, listen, and there's truth to a lot of what you're saying.
• 1:05:09
  [UNKNOWN]: In fact, I didn't think they can now this when he was asked about and came to the evidence.
• 1:05:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He kind of echoed your sentiment in less words.
• 1:05:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, he gave up some big plays.
• 1:05:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I was able to connect with him on the sidelines and say, look, this is a great opportunity.
• 1:05:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I expect to continue to prove off of this one.
• 1:05:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And remember, I mean, no one expected a kill of Evans to be starting week for Sunday night in football as a starting corner for the Panthers.
• 1:05:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And say, hey, take that.
• 1:05:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm on say, Robert.
• 1:05:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Say it.
• 1:05:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm in Ross and Brown and this is James and Williams also went for over a hundred jobs.
• 1:05:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He crossed my, he fucked me and fantasy.
• 1:05:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It was not a good game, but take some solace in this.
• 1:05:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not playing as bad as saw some gardener is for the Indianapolis Colts.
• 1:06:06
  [UNKNOWN]: My dude, the Colts traded, I believe it was a first round pick for saw some gardener.
• 1:06:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But look, technically, it could be worse.
• 1:06:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not in the best of company right now, but,
• 1:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... did look man he's going to have to continue to work and grow and get better and then jico bosse poise uh... he put to us in the call uh... dente jackson from the charges and tell you that you know you see that very pride junior
• 1:06:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I did, I would rather Dante Jackson, I feel like his level of play is a little bit higher and has been here before, so we just familiar with the team, just familiar with our defense and what we want to do on defense and the chargers, they haven't won a game this season
• 1:07:05
  [UNKNOWN]: to offload some of these some of these assets and maybe that is an option for the Panthers.
• 1:07:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't mind it.
• 1:07:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think there isn't guy on our practice squad by the name of Devonta Smith.
• 1:07:21
  [UNKNOWN]: He looked damn good in preseason and I know that doesn't count from much, but I really think that we might have some of the guys on the roster right now.
• 1:07:31
  [UNKNOWN]: that could potentially step in, play some meaning for football, maybe even a head of a cable balance.
• 1:07:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Talk about Evans performance a little bit more and this which I found is this like before we go on to how the Panthers manage this going forward let's just talk about with what they got right now and what happened and you set this to me and I was like is this real I mean I think every we asked that about everything on the internet but I mean the internet also wins
• 1:08:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, so look Tony.
• 1:08:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I did look into this.
• 1:08:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I could not find anything that says that this was fake.
• 1:08:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so everyone take that for what it's worth This is from ML football who have they have been known to stretch the truth a little at times
• 1:08:25
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... they said panther's going back really leaked a group chat while posting with his phone after the carolina's panther's win over Detroit fan zoomed in and spotted the messages saying who was the other fucking corner man is asked get twenty nine off the team bro
• 1:08:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Brutal apparently that we have to figure out who was saying what like was this his boy Texas Yeah, I don't know like as he's saying responding back
• 1:08:58
  [UNKNOWN]: cut Lord.
• 1:08:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he did.
• 1:09:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man.
• 1:09:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a rough outing for a young player in a tough circumstances.
• 1:09:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I just, I still go back and might man, he made one play that I needed, which is a touchdown breakup.
• 1:09:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, and I know it's easy to kick this guy.
• 1:09:16
  [UNKNOWN]: The real question
• 1:09:20
  [UNKNOWN]: his performance and how like we don't need to celebrate this, I won't say celebrate is jump up talk about his shortcomings in this game and find that negativity here.
• 1:09:35
  [UNKNOWN]: The question is how do the Panthers adapt with these circumstances?
• 1:09:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I mean, yeah, we'll take us to the next talking point and then we're going to hit.
• 1:09:46
  [UNKNOWN]: The where we don't want next is important is like how do the Panthers navigate this positional issue.
• 1:09:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so first, a couple of super chats, appreciate seeing all C3 Panthers podcast, longness running Panthers podcast.
• 1:10:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm in, I'm in YouTube, appreciate it, you bro.
• 1:10:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And then my collegeer says, Sunday was my first trip to the bank to watch the Panthers in person.
• 1:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And then was historic, by itself, son, first in the NFC South.
• 1:10:21
  [UNKNOWN]: appreciate everyone for the super chats.
• 1:10:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We never ask when it's always appreciated.
• 1:10:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell you what I'll say this is this.
• 1:10:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Do I think that the Caleb Evans was handed a very unfair deal?
• 1:10:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what he would have to start.
• 1:10:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Very tough circumstances.
• 1:10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: incredibly tough.
• 1:10:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, playing some of the best receivers in the NFL after Jason Horn goes out.
• 1:10:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Mike Jackson goes out.
• 1:10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, this was incredibly tough for him.
• 1:10:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So I want to be fair, but I think we also have to admit that this is an issue.
• 1:10:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We cannot be a team that's giving up, you know, 400-some yards of offense on a weekly basis.
• 1:11:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know what the fix is, but I do think that a price continues to plan this level, and the offense performs like we're expecting it to.
• 1:11:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And wanting it to, I do think that Dan Morgan is not going to leave this team hanging.
• 1:11:26
  [UNKNOWN]: in the midst of their emergence into the NFL, you know, contender stage.
• 1:11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I do potentially see them making a move to go and get another corner, especially since JC Horn might not be here until week 12.
• 1:11:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And my jacket, I mean, look, you cannot count on any of these guys coming back anytime soon.
• 1:11:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Whatever the timeline is.
• 1:11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So look, I guess that's my point and I'm asking the this Cody is we don't have to beat this guy up and kick him and beat him up for this conversation to exist.
• 1:12:04
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're the Carolina Panthers, is it time to call for help?
• 1:12:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Potentially so.
• 1:12:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, bike standard still is out there, Martian ladder more is still out there.
• 1:12:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Tridavia's white is still out there.
• 1:12:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So Tony, the Panthers do have options available to them.
• 1:12:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean don't be Jackson.
• 1:12:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I really feel, especially if you look at what Drake London is doing in the NFC South Tyler shook and Crystal lobby still have a great connection and we're going to play some really good wide receivers down the stretch.
• 1:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't be hamstrung completely, right?
• 1:13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Bryce is carrying and he's dealing in all of this, but there's only so much that a team has to be complete.
• 1:13:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, we're rooting for that MVP, at least I am trying to win that 700 bucks, right?
• 1:13:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And that requires a complete team.
• 1:13:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And the question is, do you buy borrow or develop, right?
• 1:13:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you investing or you trying to get?
• 1:13:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, people were talking about Joey Porter Jr. for whatever who went to the Cowboys, maybe premature, but like realistically, you have to think of how to the Panthers address this if they make a trade, Mike Sandstrill, Samrestrill, Samrestrill, Samrestrill, Samrestrill,
• 1:13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: he's for the commanders he's young he's cheap and relative like relative to the other options he's able to play in signer outside he's had a big he's had a reduced role with commanders interestingly lattermore too with the commanders at one point not too long ago
• 1:14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he could still like if you go for Santa's drill is maybe he isn't just a small patch, but a guy that could stick around for a little while, he could still be a part of this roster after Horn and Jackson return.
• 1:14:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not just a rental.
• 1:14:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and why Washington might move on him has to do is he's had a diminished role.
• 1:14:26
  [UNKNOWN]: They're like, I mean, look, they're quarterback situations and flux.
• 1:14:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They're probably in a selling moment.
• 1:14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: His playing time is collapsed.
• 1:14:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And it doesn't necessarily feel like a foundational piece to them, but then you got to think this is like, it may maybe you're not trying to trade, right?
• 1:14:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Or buy, maybe you're trying to borrow a guy or poach off of a practice squad.
• 1:14:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Right now, Marshaon Latimer, I believe, is on the Seattle
• 1:15:02
  [UNKNOWN]: former elite corner that's quite how the mighty of fall at all I know I mean it was talked about that's one of the better corners in any of the summer long time but guess what other time catches he's a former elite corner he's got multiple probals he's experienced
• 1:15:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this, look, I don't know what the right answer is, but I do know if you're looking for a bandaid, you're not looking for a guy that's like peak, like, oh, match up to all of this, but you are looking for a guy that has enough football experience that can merge into a team on short notice.
• 1:15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And do something.
• 1:15:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you got a lot of more, he has that.
• 1:15:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The question for
• 1:15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see, recovering from the ACL injury.
• 1:15:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not in his prime anymore, but I almost think being that super elite player gives you an arrogance a little bit to wear like you can't come in and like you think you're still fucking march on, a lot of more of old.
• 1:16:07
  [UNKNOWN]: If march on,
• 1:16:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And I can apply my vet knowledge to be a good corner and not be a diva and an asshole who has done a lot of shit.
• 1:16:21
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got a lot of penalties after, you know, he's caused a lot of issues.
• 1:16:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you go to a guy, I think maybe it's for Davis.
• 1:16:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Why is another example?
• 1:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: veteran doesn't cost anything in draft capital.
• 1:16:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He can step into the lineup quickly.
• 1:16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, that's the real issue or not the issue is like what you're looking for is not a guy that you're going to say, oh, he's going to change our team.
• 1:16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to pay him.
• 1:16:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to do something.
• 1:16:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But a guy
• 1:16:53
  [UNKNOWN]: until maybe I don't but I don't even think I'm sorry I know they've like Jaycee coming back Mike Jack like I'm not pinning a giant hopes on that being sooner than later but Trudevius white 31 years old
• 1:17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's kind of what you need a little bit is like you don't need a guy that's fucking shut down.
• 1:17:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You need a guy that doesn't make mistakes.
• 1:17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, this shouldn't be count ourselves as lucky that they're, you know, they may be older, but at least corners with that kind of acumen.
• 1:17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: are available to us to be had.
• 1:17:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, again, beggars can't be the twosers.
• 1:17:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It's either a Caleb Evans or Marsha on Lathamor.
• 1:17:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, shout out to Kristen Butler in the chat.
• 1:17:47
  [UNKNOWN]: By the way, she said she's spraying her shoulder, prayers up to Kristen.
• 1:17:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Hope you get better.
• 1:17:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, she said Lathamor got cooked a lot when he was with the commanders, uh, he's just being overpaid
• 1:18:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But no matter who it is, there's like, beggars can't really be choosers.
• 1:18:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's either, do you trust one of these guys to be able to come in and be a meaningful contributor or do you trust a candle by the way M.D.
• 1:18:20
  [UNKNOWN]: says in the chat, the funny thing is, has your officials not called the roughing to pass your against the browns?
• 1:18:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Evans would have been a zero in this section, right?
• 1:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Because there was the one that made the interception in the end, though.
• 1:18:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So that is a great point.
• 1:18:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I do think that's sort of what you were trying to say, telling me that maybe for, you know, such an out of the fire and pan and into the fire or moment, maybe that's not the best case scenario to completely judge a Caleb Evans on.
• 1:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're going to have to see it ultimately how much this fun office really does trust him.
• 1:18:55
  [UNKNOWN]: moving forward.
• 1:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm about this is even if you make an addition, it doesn't mean that it's not a referendum on his role like how he can contribute.
• 1:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, I think it would be like this is that there's a learning curve.
• 1:19:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You've had some moments.
• 1:19:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We need depth here.
• 1:19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Of course that and when I say depth it means a guy that can step in and play a body that is not a full complete liability.
• 1:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I don't even think I think if you want to develop the Caleb Evans and you said, Oh, we believe in him.
• 1:19:33
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't care about the internet that I think is fine, but I think it would be foolish to not pay.
• 1:19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: this room more anyway and i don't think that's what i think they're gonna do it the numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight cutie let's take another call we still got yeah so let's talk about tettman milling and more the care of smatic c.k.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t
• 1:20:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, and this ain't nobody but your boy, C.P.
• 1:20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The Vince's virtual man, you're neighborhood, hope that let's check an end with a sad host, Sunday night football, victory, I am still fired up out of my mind, baby, I'm still fired up.
• 1:20:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And let me tell y'all something, those players, what wasn't
• 1:20:33
  [UNKNOWN]: all of them, how dare them come up in Bank of America Stadium, a dab in pulling a cam Newton, so disrespectful, how dare them, but you know what?
• 1:20:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina freaking stood up baby.
• 1:20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: We're the more the more Sunday night.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Defend our word.
• 1:20:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this pain.
• 1:20:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this community.
• 1:20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this state baby.
• 1:20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina through and through.
• 1:21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to be disrespected at the same time.
• 1:21:03
  [UNKNOWN]: We can show that baby.
• 1:21:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Bright young, ice young, Carolina Reaper.
• 1:21:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Whatever you want to call them baby coming through in the clutch.
• 1:21:13
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• 1:21:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, compound they hope they'll do that's what I'm saying the energy on this scene right now is electric everyone is playing some of the best football that we have ever seen them play
• 1:21:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony I'm very remiss.
• 1:21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a sort of rush doing some of the presentation, but for a minute, and at some point tonight, we have to dedicate a little bit of time to turbo harbour, because there's been a lot of conversation about turbo.
• 1:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: does he have that next level burst and what kind of running back is he for the Panthers?
• 1:22:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He's quietly putting together a damn good season and he currently has the stats to be able to back it up.
• 1:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, right now it seems like some of our offensive haters are more heavy weights than we thought they were.
• 1:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think a Tuba Hubbard has been what I've said is a good and bet like is be happy that you got them right now.
• 1:22:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think more about and we're not going to get in the muck on this is this game exposed early on the problems with this offensive line.
• 1:22:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They cannot just
• 1:23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, is that that running game took off though, I get we have done what the opposite of what kind of the mantra is is use the run to open up the past.
• 1:23:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We have opened up the run and soften them with the past.
• 1:23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't think, I mean, like is it's true, and this has nothing to do with you, but it's true, but they would hand the ball off to him, and there's no push.
• 1:23:32
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no holes, and the fact that they opened up later in the game, and he had some of his, he kept his feet longer than he usually does in this game.
• 1:23:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:23:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, look, I told you that some of the numbers are on his side right now.
• 1:23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: These are players with the multiple rushing and receiving touchdowns.
• 1:23:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Kenneth Walker, four rushing touchdowns, two receiving touchdowns, Jamir Gibbs, five rushing touchdowns, two receiving.
• 1:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Look at Chubo.
• 1:24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Through your rushing touchdowns, two receiving touchdowns.
• 1:24:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like Chubo as a player is really doing well.
• 1:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... right now uh... so he had a hundred and twenty two yards for two touchdowns he already has as many uh... one hundred uh... to two games as my caffrey did for the panther we don't want to hear this talk at this fucking infuriate and if you're going to all you want say to me to me and tell me why i share about it
• 1:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So hold on, and then it's the next two in tandem.
• 1:24:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers run it back through a hover faced eight or more defenders in the box on the 45% of his carries versus Detroit, but still finished with 55 rushing yards.
• 1:25:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not have to do with it.
• 1:25:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Impact it.
• 1:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: What's there to do with Chris McCaffrey, though?
• 1:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm saying that this number is number of 100 over 100 rushing yards and two touchdown games.
• 1:25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He has as many as Chris and McCaffrey did.
• 1:25:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's the first part again.
• 1:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So he went, he rushed for 122 yards and two touchdowns.
• 1:25:28
  [UNKNOWN]: He already has as a me 100 plus yard rushing games with two touchdowns.
• 1:25:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Super.
• 1:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: As a management half or did it.
• 1:25:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's that for the Carolina Panters.
• 1:25:39
  [UNKNOWN]: He has been, no, is he's had time.
• 1:25:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is like, let's celebrate Chuba.
• 1:25:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I like the second step, the second tweet.
• 1:25:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, then there's a celebrating Tuba, but this has nothing to do with Christian McCaffrey is time here, and it's a silly comparison to be like, now I saw another one is somebody was like, oh, he's got more rushing yards think Christian McCaffrey, and then it was like in the front as a panther, shut the fuck up.
• 1:26:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care is if you had somebody that nobody is putting that cover.
• 1:26:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 1:26:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't have to use Christian McCaffrey as clickbait as
• 1:26:30
  [UNKNOWN]: fucking rage bait.
• 1:26:31
  [UNKNOWN]: No, has nothing to do with Christian McAfrey in his time in Carolina or his ability as a player.
• 1:26:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Just say this, is that Truba Hubbard has had a fucking hard road to plow, hard road to plow here in this game in this season.
• 1:26:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's been all right.
• 1:26:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know what, this just shows that Truba has been here for a stint and bin.
• 1:26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Ultimately, we're liable as a decent player, nothing to do with Chris McCaffrey.
• 1:27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Miss me with that.
• 1:27:03
  [UNKNOWN]: There's been more reliable than when I'm Christian McCaffrey was here.
• 1:27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I really can also say there's a lot of pathers and that doesn't mean it's used Christian McAfrey when they drafted him for the first year.
• 1:27:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you want it.
• 1:27:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want it.
• 1:27:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you want to play him on 90% of the snaps.
• 1:27:23
  [UNKNOWN]: When that was the one saying that we were losing to McAfrey too much.
• 1:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, I'm not saying that.
• 1:27:28
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it's just rookie year.
• 1:27:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't even recommend all.
• 1:27:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Juba, I'm the normal saying that Juba is on the same level as the McAfrey, but as a Carolina Panther, I think you can argue that he has meant more to the Carolina Panthers than Christian McAfrey.
• 1:27:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's so stupid.
• 1:27:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I would never in my life think about running right now, no, I don't care is that if I was thinking about great running backs for the Carolina Panthers, he wouldn't even be in the
• 1:28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, we're talking about this is I would say Jonathan, it's kind of like Help me out The Angela Williams or in that the double treble Steven Davis had a 1600 yard That's a small is a simple, but it's a year that it led to a Super Bowl
• 1:28:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, Christian McCaffrey, so maybe he would be, I mean, I, I still don't know, Sean Foster, I think to Sean Foster had a more of an impact on this team, but I could say as a, as a co-rear,
• 1:28:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that even that when they when they're done, playing football, Christian McAfrey will be known as a 49er.
• 1:29:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's time for some.
• 1:29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 1:29:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 1:29:05
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 1:29:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And after a thought.
• 1:29:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if you're in Cuba, Hubbard will really be remembered.
• 1:29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, this season is not over yet.
• 1:29:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I feel like I'm being asked all this.
• 1:29:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think putting him in the conversation of the Angela Williams, a Jonathan Stewart.
• 1:29:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you do that, you say he's Christian McCaffrey level for the Panthers, then you have to kind of put him in there.
• 1:29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, he is five for me.
• 1:29:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think that you can have a real conversation of who meant more to the Panthers between Cuba and Christian McCaffrey.
• 1:29:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But again, that's a whole lot of him losing seat.
• 1:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, okay.
• 1:29:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but let's just disagree on this.
• 1:29:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Christian, but was hurt so much of the time here in Carolina, I said that we were over using him, but I think that right now, true, but Hubbard,
• 1:30:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It deserves to put some praise on them because the same offensive line that isn't passed for attacking very well for Bryce Young is also the one that's having to run block from Truebohubbert, and this is another treat from Mike Kay, despite the lack of consistency in the run game, Truebohubbert is averaging five yards per carry.
• 1:30:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's being good.
• 1:30:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been at 300 total yards and five touchdowns on the season last year.
• 1:30:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He had 734 total yards and four touchdowns and 15 games.
• 1:30:38
  [UNKNOWN]: This is another thing.
• 1:30:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Meanwhile, Rick O'Dowell over there and Pittsburgh has played in two games and it's only rushed for 65 yards.
• 1:30:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Told you I told you.
• 1:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, I don't respect on true.
• 1:30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, hobert.
• 1:30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all.
• 1:30:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not trying to shit on true.
• 1:30:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Behobert.
• 1:30:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it's stupid to make these conversations.
• 1:31:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Number one about him.
• 1:31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: A Christian McAvery.
• 1:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think back about Christian McAvery.
• 1:31:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Completely misused his first two years.
• 1:31:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he could have, he could have, he was putting, he was putting carries with Jonathan Stewart his first year and they were protecting him, no, they were protecting him.
• 1:31:25
  [UNKNOWN]: They were worried about him running up the middle.
• 1:31:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a star who's a fucking star right out the gate.
• 1:31:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a star.
• 1:31:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the Panthers didn't use him properly for where they invested him on the draft capital.
• 1:31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, let's go back to the hope dealer for his next call.
• 1:31:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Only two more calls.
• 1:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a lot of shit.
• 1:31:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, I got to say this though.
• 1:31:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what?
• 1:31:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Marshall Rudder.
• 1:31:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Where you at?
• 1:31:50
  [UNKNOWN]: When you act, man, you'd be at that hate-known, hating on the seat-the-reel region, hating on the community when we lose.
• 1:31:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, but when we win the game, you'd be like, oh, this is a hard time.
• 1:32:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's go.
• 1:32:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Marshall, brother, where you at?
• 1:32:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But anyway, but anyway, but anyway, back to the matter act.
• 1:32:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on, Marshall.
• 1:32:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you matter?
• 1:32:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We need you.
• 1:32:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Y'all just imagine after this by week when we get just a little bit healthier.
• 1:32:18
  [UNKNOWN]: we were able to do this as we know now with second and third string offensive lineman.
• 1:32:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness.
• 1:32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: How about Devon Lloyd stepping up?
• 1:32:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Shut and down with Jamir Gibbs, man.
• 1:32:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really loving this, y'all.
• 1:32:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm loving what I'm seeing.
• 1:32:34
  [UNKNOWN]: John met you look good.
• 1:32:36
  [UNKNOWN]: As a matter of fact, I got a question for y'all, man.
• 1:32:39
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, is John mentioned on his way to move and into that that why I received a three spot and and replace an Xavier Leguese without a doubt.
• 1:32:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, him and Bryce have chemistry.
• 1:32:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a different type of receiver from T-Mac and Coker.
• 1:32:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He kind of almost reminds me of like a Jericho cocky.
• 1:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
• 1:33:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Very good.
• 1:33:01
  [UNKNOWN]: A y'all member of cocky aka Clutchery.
• 1:33:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm in, but he's consistent.
• 1:33:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have a lot of drops in him and Bryce got chemistry But anyway, give me all thoughts on that, man, if you all think that that match is a approach to that, man I'm not trying to this will get, but I'm still glad that you brought it Oh, but hey, yeah, just the hope that a man love y'all see through religion We brought it up in her, man
• 1:33:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I love that you brought them John mentioned because I think we do have such an opportunity to think that him involved even more.
• 1:33:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Hope Dillard is 100% correct.
• 1:33:40
  [UNKNOWN]: They do have a connection with one another and I thank him.
• 1:33:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's more than that.
• 1:33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think match is good.
• 1:33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and when Bryce is only playing his best football, I think he has trust in the route running of John Matchy, you know, Bryce is a timing and rhythm quarterback, and he trusts that John Matchy is going to be out of his break at a certain level of the field at a certain time, because he already did so much of that.
• 1:34:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And Alabama, with John Matchy, I love that we're utilizing
• 1:34:15
  [UNKNOWN]: for a continued John, John, and also I'll say this, hope to listen Jericho, contrary, I kind of view him more as a fillet brown, because it's 50.
• 1:34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He can move.
• 1:34:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think a young girl in the space.
• 1:34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: You saw an old Jericho country.
• 1:34:36
  [UNKNOWN]: when he was.
• 1:34:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you saw Jericho Cotry when he played with the Jets.
• 1:34:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it was a Jets.
• 1:34:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it was it was it was a great team.
• 1:34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was a Jets is now he does remind me a ton of Cotry, like a young country, a younger country.
• 1:34:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Not the Panthers Cotry, like the veteran long stay version of what he was.
• 1:35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this call, CK, the great part about it is the, I want to say the irony, but the, from the hope dealer, right, the name, the hope dealer, everything that has surrounded the Xavier of the get story and Dan Floyd, great comment, he says, Metro made y'all forget about Jimmy
• 1:35:29
  [UNKNOWN]: All of this, I mean, but you think about those two players, let's get in horn, hope, hope, hope.
• 1:35:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Mechie has done just as much as these players in the short stand and his college tape is better.
• 1:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's less hope and more certainty.
• 1:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say without a doubt that he has surpassed LaGET on the Depth Short.
• 1:36:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Now whether there's the policy that has already passed, LaGET.
• 1:36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: without a doubt, without a doubt.
• 1:36:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if anything, it's more about like, oh, is Bryson Trimman, how does he fit and stuff?
• 1:36:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, are they three A, three B?
• 1:36:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that politics of football could say, oh, look, get, we still believe.
• 1:36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think the reality of football is messy as proven more in this small stint.
• 1:36:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He's had good when he was a rookie with Houston.
• 1:36:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He had the cancer, he had a moment with the jets.
• 1:36:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's four more accomplished than LaGette.
• 1:36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if you think LaGette and I'm not trying to shit on him, but it's about hope.
• 1:36:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's my nod to the hope dealer, not that he was saying that.
• 1:36:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't think you can argue that if LaGette came back healthy,
• 1:37:00
  [UNKNOWN]: putting him out there above Medchee makes you a better team.
• 1:37:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think when I look at what is really plaguing XO number one, for whatever reason, Bryce and him just do not have chemistry.
• 1:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't as much as we'd love to be able to say they don't, they just don't.
• 1:37:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's not something that can be said about him in Medchee.
• 1:37:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And the other part to the Medchee conversation
• 1:37:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Number one, we know that Bryce and he have the connection, right?
• 1:37:31
  [UNKNOWN]: They have some some history, and that's going to allow Bryce to understand them a little bit more.
• 1:37:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But one of the things really hurting Xavier Legette is not only has he not excelled, no pun intended at the position.
• 1:37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Well done, pun intended.
• 1:37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But he also has faced multiple injuries over his career.
• 1:37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And so we're not dealing with the christian McAfrey type situation where that we had a guy who was talented as can be and just couldn't stay on the field because you wait for those guys right but you can't you can't continue to wait for
• 1:38:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, a third string wide receiver who probably wouldn't have been third string head or the number third three wide receiver had Chris Brazzle not gotten injured in training camp or his draft stock like of what you invested and yeah, I mean quite honestly this might the Chris Brazzle, I mean people have been talking about it.
• 1:38:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we are, you know, we have a lot brighter future than we anticipate.
• 1:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel a lot more confident with this team at the wide receiver position when I see Metchi out there than I do excel.
• 1:38:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say this is Betty has not he's only had two receptions in Carolina, but he has had a touchdown right.
• 1:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So maybe I'm putting the cart before the horse, but to me, it looks like this is Xavier looks like a scottless like he's giant, he's all like yes, but
• 1:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I met you looks like a fluid athlete for me, you know, and I don't know.
• 1:39:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I just have more trust right now.
• 1:39:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to say trust is like, I've just seen more from a guy.
• 1:39:15
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy is fought cancer, right?
• 1:39:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And miss sees missed the whole season.
• 1:39:21
  [UNKNOWN]: He's played 47 games in his career.
• 1:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He said 75
• 1:39:29
  [UNKNOWN]: hasn't had cancer has had 86.
• 1:39:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So he's had 11 more receptions.
• 1:39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Matthew has 75 career yards between the Texans, the Jets, and the Panthers, fighting and battling for us.
• 1:39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But Leget has had 924 yards.
• 1:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Xavier look at his head seven touchdowns.
• 1:39:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It just felt like all of them came in his rookie year.
• 1:39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:39:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't I'm not I will like I hate to kick a player.
• 1:40:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not like saying this, but I just have not seen Xavier look at Take a step forward.
• 1:40:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And if we're going to give all of this criticism to a not criticism, but like Bryce, we need to evolution or your step is I really feel for Leget is that this was a year that he needed.
• 1:40:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He needed to come out and show he think about that is to be a three.
• 1:40:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what he needed to beat.
• 1:40:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all he needed to be is a guy.
• 1:40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I said.
• 1:40:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And he now injury has prevented that, but it was like, it was never meant to be.
• 1:40:42
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, it was meant to be.
• 1:40:43
  [UNKNOWN]: He looks so replaceable.
• 1:40:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:40:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned how they really haven't had much of a connection.
• 1:40:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And it does suck, man, because it does feel like they were just getting ready to start to build on that.
• 1:40:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You saw that deep bomb, and then playing play though.
• 1:41:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I know, man, but the injuries, I think another thing that we don't mention enough is the injury history.
• 1:41:10
  [UNKNOWN]: because the injuries have been a problem for him.
• 1:41:13
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been injured every year if there's been here it seems and then college and in college and the site you haven't even factored in the fact that Chris Brasal hasn't even been a factor on this team because he's already out for the deer.
• 1:41:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So if John mentioned does continue to climb up the ranks and build upon that prior connection that he has with price,
• 1:41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If just saying read continues to get more action and he looks as good as he did in the preseason that does it both well for XL You know, it's it's tough to imagine what his future is in Carolina at this point He has to come back after the buy healthy and ready to tear shit up the amount of time that he has left available to him is very very low
• 1:42:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's been open longer than it should have been.
• 1:42:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Go to the next comment to call it cat studio and again, this is not a challenge.
• 1:42:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not being upset.
• 1:42:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Go back one.
• 1:42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: One comment on this is, I will.
• 1:42:26
  [UNKNOWN]: No, to where he was talking about keep going back.
• 1:42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: One more back, I think.
• 1:42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Where he's talking about Excel is look.
• 1:42:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The number is 252 228 5098.
• 1:42:37
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not football experts.
• 1:42:39
  [UNKNOWN]: We're expert football football fans just like you are quick.
• 1:42:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You can call in at 252 228 5098 and I would like to know.
• 1:42:49
  [UNKNOWN]: is this hate for Excel because I don't I've been root like I have not wanted him to not work.
• 1:42:58
  [UNKNOWN]: at all.
• 1:42:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But I would ask where your opt where the truth and optimism and securing the moment is for this guy.
• 1:43:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, I mean, you could say he's been he's injured now, but one big catch.
• 1:43:17
  [UNKNOWN]: His rookie season is all you are
• 1:43:20
  [UNKNOWN]: going to stake the claim on and has been a descendants from then.
• 1:43:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And the fact is, as he's drafted, yes, maybe overdrafted.
• 1:43:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but like the Panthers knew what they're like, oh, but it's the idea is that he could have been a number two.
• 1:43:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And now you're wondering,
• 1:43:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Replaceable.
• 1:43:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't get argue with that and I don't even think they were talking about can he even be a three the three and I don't think it's clear
• 1:43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: look let me let me say really quick and defense of Xavier like that I do think that there is some truth to the fact that we haven't quite utilized him maybe the way that he should have been utilized the way he was in college and that's why I say even though it was yes just one catch
• 1:44:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But that deep bomb to Xavier Langett, we also saw that sometime last year in that Atlanta game where he hit Excel deep and I feel like if you have Excel on the field you can use him to vertically stretch the field and I feel like that's where we should have been utilizing him and that's where we need to continue to utilize him people forget that he ran like a
• 1:44:42
  [UNKNOWN]: four, three, nine or something like that.
• 1:44:44
  [UNKNOWN]: The executive look hit can really run.
• 1:44:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels like a one note, a one trick.
• 1:44:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
• 1:44:52
  [UNKNOWN]: The field opens up for a tetrahomic milling and jailing poker.
• 1:44:57
  [UNKNOWN]: If teams have to account for the speed downfield of Xavier look hit.
• 1:45:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, he might not have a future when he's so big though, but that added element to this offense is undoubtedly helpful when he does come back.
• 1:45:15
  [UNKNOWN]: He's so big.
• 1:45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It's ridiculous to me to think that he can only be a go-round receiver.
• 1:45:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It just doesn't make any sense to me that the game cannot diversify for him a little bit.
• 1:45:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm like, how can you not add layers to your game?
• 1:45:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's take another call.
• 1:45:40
  [UNKNOWN]: This is, I think, the girl that makes it.
• 1:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 1:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where his name was.
• 1:45:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Quiet.
• 1:45:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the girl.
• 1:45:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Holy, quiet.
• 1:45:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's not a challenge.
• 1:45:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not upset.
• 1:45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're playing here.
• 1:45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone wants to know.
• 1:45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not an attack by any means.
• 1:45:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really interested in why there should be more optimism.
• 1:46:03
  [UNKNOWN]: grace in a sense.
• 1:46:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe on this podcast, but just in general is the fact I think that it comes back to you invested so much.
• 1:46:16
  [UNKNOWN]: If you were a fifth round pick and you were offering this, you're not part of the conversation anymore.
• 1:46:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the Grat that makes a mail.
• 1:46:31
  [UNKNOWN]: actually went to that game.
• 1:46:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It was awesome.
• 1:46:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say the atmosphere in the stadium was the second only to the playoff game.
• 1:46:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It was late.
• 1:46:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was full, everyone was over there.
• 1:46:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the line in the getting was freaking long in the cell because that's how many people were
• 1:46:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They might very well have the worst offense in the entire league.
• 1:47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: They will not do it, okay?
• 1:47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Which isn't to take anything from anything away from what price and not offense.
• 1:47:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I meant defense, if I didn't say that.
• 1:47:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But not to take anything from price in T-Max and Shuba.
• 1:47:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we, we, we, we've, we've not before we got real fat.
• 1:47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But I will say, our defense wasn't that much better anyway.
• 1:47:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, granted that offense is one of the better offenses in the league.
• 1:47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And when that offense was getting really stressed, because our defense couldn't do shit towards the end of the game, we just started to see us having more of an impact on defense.
• 1:47:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But does this give you any more confidence in a barrel?
• 1:47:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Because it certainly doesn't give me any, because, yeah, I didn't think we were at no point in that game that I think we had it in the bag, because I knew we weren't going to be able to stop Detroit from going down the field and scoring.
• 1:48:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was essentially whoever had the ball last wins the game, which is why I'm so glad we ended up deferring the second half because you got to have the ball as late as you can because you give it back to the straight, they're going to go down the score.
• 1:48:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But that game was so much fun.
• 1:48:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce and Team Mac and Shuba and pretty much everyone else on
• 1:48:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Devon boys abuse.
• 1:48:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I love that flare.
• 1:48:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He's such a beast.
• 1:48:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Devon lord is the man.
• 1:48:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's that.
• 1:49:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Your chances to do so.
• 1:49:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't have confidence and ever.
• 1:49:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm going to call in again, talk about something else that my dad and I were talking about.
• 1:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's really interesting.
• 1:49:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah,
• 1:49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He's getting the problem.
• 1:49:17
  [UNKNOWN]: There it is.
• 1:49:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, Tony, before we go forward to Super Chat, so one of them I just have saved.
• 1:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: This is from J.P.T.
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And the chat.
• 1:49:29
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the O'Cowie True Stance CMC played 64 games in Miss 23.
• 1:49:34
  [UNKNOWN]: True but has played 82 and Miss 5.
• 1:49:39
  [UNKNOWN]: for the Panthers, again, just relevant information.
• 1:49:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, availability, great ability.
• 1:49:45
  [UNKNOWN]: JPT also comes back with one 99 pounds.
• 1:49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: appreciate your brother.
• 1:49:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He says, excels body of work for judging him on, not the man.
• 1:49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everybody likes it, say if you look at it as a person.
• 1:49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And how about this?
• 1:50:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He's in another boat jangles commercial.
• 1:50:02
  [UNKNOWN]: They have this boo jangles going on.
• 1:50:05
  [UNKNOWN]: They're like a weird thing.
• 1:50:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like the main guy of their ad campaign.
• 1:50:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So, and then make that paper bro, but you have the opportunity to do so.
• 1:50:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not even mad, but I mean, there is
• 1:50:19
  [UNKNOWN]: not make it where you can because they're going to have forever and they're true to what Tony and C. K. are saying that man it's it's it's into envision this offense without it's everything that and if that's going to change, he's going to have to really turn it on when he does come back and be able to stay healthy.
• 1:50:39
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to have to make a change.
• 1:50:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we did not go, um, oh, you beat the lions because you, and that's incredible because you didn't have Xavier look at.
• 1:50:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:50:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Was it the lions?
• 1:50:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Because you didn't have Jalen Coker and you're facing all these injuries.
• 1:50:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:50:57
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, uh, don't have to make some noise.
• 1:50:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, one more, one more than Tony.
• 1:51:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, go ahead.
• 1:51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Imagine what this vertical passing attack could look like when you add a healthy, crisp brazil.
• 1:51:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, you're talking about, you're talking about, you're talking about, you're, I know, but dude, that's, that's the river, if, if this is the new Bryson, okay, and he's throwing as Tom Brady would say piss missiles down the down the field, like, dude, this can be a match made in heaven.
• 1:51:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, quiet quiet cat studio again.
• 1:51:35
  [UNKNOWN]: We welcome the, I mean, we like diversity of opinions.
• 1:51:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you call in a bump your call up, let's go back to Joey the blind pan.
• 1:51:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we got a lot of shows still to do in the call.
• 1:51:44
  [UNKNOWN]: It's far coming in.
• 1:51:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm planning pan for AJ the girl.
• 1:51:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me somehow call in for a second time.
• 1:51:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a kind of juicy possibility to talk about ever.
• 1:51:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Again,
• 1:52:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He gets fired from the bucking years.
• 1:52:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave can now listen to the bulls.
• 1:52:08
  [UNKNOWN]: They have a bit of a connection.
• 1:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: What is?
• 1:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 1:52:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Shut up.
• 1:52:13
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 1:52:14
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't.
• 1:52:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like I should cut him off right now.
• 1:52:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't mind that.
• 1:52:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't.
• 1:52:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't.
• 1:52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Twice in this week.
• 1:52:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, he can't coordinate.
• 1:52:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 1:52:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not that he's a bad coordinator.
• 1:52:28
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a guy out there that are great coordinators.
• 1:52:33
  [UNKNOWN]: with shitty head coaches, Johnson and Daniels.
• 1:52:36
  [UNKNOWN]: My, he's been a little bit of a nightmare.
• 1:52:39
  [UNKNOWN]: My, Daniel was a pretty decent coach.
• 1:52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, he's kind of a reversing a shit coordinator and he could have coached.
• 1:52:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But...
• 1:52:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Damn, boys with me, several of that connected.
• 1:52:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He definitely looked for some upgrade over a barrel.
• 1:52:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I like no question about it.
• 1:52:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think Chad, GBT would be enough great over him, but that's just me anyway, guys.
• 1:53:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say this if we're going to go with with another coach to be defensive coordinator who isn't a zero of arrow.
• 1:53:11
  [UNKNOWN]: His name better be Sean McDermott.
• 1:53:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, jeez and luck is you're just stick with the vera through the season.
• 1:53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think making a midseason change is really going to help the Panthers.
• 1:53:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 1:53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've had defenses that made it turn around just based off of a coordinator change in the past.
• 1:53:34
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:53:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Like what were they, though?
• 1:53:36
  [UNKNOWN]: What were the changes or?
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:53:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Like when are those examples?
• 1:53:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not sure.
• 1:53:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
• 1:53:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Eric Washington, I believe.
• 1:53:45
  [UNKNOWN]: What year was that?
• 1:53:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, it was the year after Steve Wilkes got his Arizona head, head, head, head, head, head.
• 1:53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: 22.
• 1:53:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, we stuck.
• 1:54:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:54:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:54:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't.
• 1:54:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 1:54:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 1:54:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 1:54:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't.
• 1:54:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can have that and then offenses.
• 1:54:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We've seen offenses that have improved because of a change in play collar and the in midseason and that would be as an example.
• 1:54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But you're talking about dumpster fire seasons that became less dumpster fire.
• 1:54:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Not seasons that you're trying to build and compete in.
• 1:54:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So look, this is just my opinion.
• 1:54:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think a midseason change is going to help the Panthers.
• 1:54:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that if you want to make those changes, you make them.
• 1:54:47
  [UNKNOWN]: and a full implementation.
• 1:54:49
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I have 100% agree.
• 1:54:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Not not not to be done in the middle of the season.
• 1:54:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me, do you want to take more calls?
• 1:54:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you want to talk about team?
• 1:54:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do one more call and then we'll get the team back.
• 1:55:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it because we got to.
• 1:55:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Was it going on everybody?
• 1:55:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's me, C-D-D-O.
• 1:55:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's C-D-O.
• 1:55:08
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• 1:55:09
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• 1:55:12
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• 1:55:16
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• 1:55:23
  [UNKNOWN]: From a real quick, to me, this was the best, this was the best game you've tried this year even though it was there early in the season, but to me, personally, we played a complete game on the office of the side and the dishes on the side of football.
• 1:55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I was saying before, there is no excuses for the injuries, you know.
• 1:55:45
  [UNKNOWN]: but just coaching man, like ever a coaching, a little job on defense with all, you know, a buff off guard of corn being out.
• 1:55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And once they are, I can't say yes.
• 1:55:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I still like in defense.
• 1:55:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It's getting better by each week because they do have so many new pieces.
• 1:56:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Every has so many young guys on the defensive line with their crown.
• 1:56:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But you can tell, like this latter game, against alliance, like it's finally getting the defensive folly coming together, you know, especially with them, the Lord is playing.
• 1:56:15
  [UNKNOWN]: everything has come together with this defense.
• 1:56:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So while I'm really trying to press off in a row, you know, sometimes, but like this last game, it gets the lion's man.
• 1:56:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He calls it, I love a game on defense, man.
• 1:56:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the hell of a fuck.
• 1:56:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think we got to give him some credit for that.
• 1:56:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a new piece from his defense.
• 1:56:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So when you plan defense, man, everybody has to be a representative.
• 1:56:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, one person is on a position.
• 1:56:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Then that's when you have a blown place, a blown assignment, some are the wildest and fun touchdowns.
• 1:56:45
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, but this game right here, this is the only game I could face for this season.
• 1:56:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Defence is on point.
• 1:56:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody was where it was supposed to be at, you know, it was input and put a good sound defense.
• 1:56:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, specifically, they make it a fucking brat, is it, Brad, is it, is it, the motherfucking got them O.C., Brad, finally came out here and ran the fucking ball with consistency.
• 1:57:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Super had over 20 carries got their AJ dealer had over five carries if I'm not mistaken, you know, run the ball, you know, and see because this thing here have a balance of cases, all I've been asked before in this past game, we finally got that from is it, you know, lots of stuff like this, I want to see how we're going to look if you get the Eagles as it is by week at the bow week, we should come out and crush the fucking Eagles, you know, we just look better man, trans we, everybody look better, you know, and I've been got a young guy from these fans.
• 1:57:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But like this time game, I felt like everybody was whatever was supposed to be, you know, like every his folly coming together and everything like a cake or whatever, you know, the solid bacon, not following, you know, the defenses would be solemn before we got to take its folly rising up, like it's sure.
• 1:57:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm excited, man, it was a great fucking win, you know.
• 1:58:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, fantastic call brand ambassador.
• 1:58:07
  [UNKNOWN]: We appreciate your support, Cody.
• 1:58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Speaking of this game, I think that, I mean, we celebrated the win and the importance and the pantheon like the season and what it's maybe could do how it could be a potential momentum point.
• 1:58:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Most importantly, the Bryce Young ascendancy
• 1:58:27
  [UNKNOWN]: are the real potential transition point.
• 1:58:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We're seeing him become from a guy that can be to a guy that is that we're talking now about among the top of the league, certainly playing that like that.
• 1:58:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But in the Browns game, Bryce had a solid game.
• 1:58:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean,
• 1:58:49
  [UNKNOWN]: When I say a solid game, it was a great game by previous years of Bryce standards.
• 1:58:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He was not the reason that we lost against the ball.
• 1:58:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he had some moment, but it was still, he had 291 yards.
• 1:59:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, and I'm telling you this, and the Panthers had the lead twice, and you had been fighting to get 200 yards in games.
• 1:59:13
  [UNKNOWN]: year the year before last year the year before.
• 1:59:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So, but there was a big question mark.
• 1:59:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Jalen Coker was this kind of the juice of the squeeze for the first couple of games.
• 1:59:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And there was an absence, a notable missing, like it's like where is
• 1:59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The former offensive rookie of the year, Tettaroa McMillan, what, 19 yards, I think, or something to that effect, some absence in that Browns game, where it became a discussion point.
• 1:59:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Sunday night football, no jail and poker, what happened, Cody?
• 1:59:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's on mute, let me set it up again.
• 2:00:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me set it up again, because I'm gonna clip this as a short.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And the Brown's game, there was a notable absence that it became a discussion point for Teteroma, Teteroma McMillan, former offensive rookie of the year, to where people are saying, where is he, what is going on, is it scheme, can he play against top, not can he play, but should a smaller corner, who is a high caliber corner, take him completely out of the game,
• 2:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: That became a discussion, Cody.
• 2:00:38
  [UNKNOWN]: What happened Monday night though?
• 2:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Sunday night, excuse me.
• 2:00:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Sunday night, the number one wide receiver in the Panthers offense showed himself to the world, Ted Aroa, a million, 14 exceptions, a hundred and ninety two receiving yards and two
• 2:01:02
  [UNKNOWN]: receiving touchdowns.
• 2:01:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He has the most catches without a drop amongst wide receivers this year.
• 2:01:10
  [UNKNOWN]: At 26, Tony CK, I said that the end of our French foundation podcast, where is T-Mac?
• 2:01:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Where is our number one wide receiver when Jayland Coker and Xavier and Kette are out?
• 2:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: and they were both out against the Detroit Lions.
• 2:01:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if it was just Brad, it's it making more of a concerted effort to hit him and fall.
• 2:01:36
  [UNKNOWN]: If it was just Bryce needing to get the ball in his hands, but Tadaroa, Macmillan, was electric.
• 2:01:46
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers have scored 121 points this season.
• 2:01:49
  [UNKNOWN]: They're most of the first four games of a season in franchise history.
• 2:01:55
  [UNKNOWN]: But check this out.
• 2:01:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Team Acro recorded 14 receptions and 192 yards.
• 2:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Both are the second most in a game in franchise history.
• 2:02:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Second only to Steve Smith.
• 2:02:11
  [UNKNOWN]: In year two, he is already putting up record-breaking numbers for the Carolina Panthers, and he is the highest graded wide receiver in week four according to PDFF at 93.5 and that's including CVLAM who had an incredible insight.
• 2:02:34
  [UNKNOWN]: against the Houston Texans this past Sunday and that T-Mac wins the frame over all of them over a city land, Nicole Collins, Xavier Hutchinson and T-Hagians and how about this talk about record?
• 2:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Most receiving yards by a Panthers duo since the Cam Newton era.
• 2:02:57
  [UNKNOWN]: 226 young and mid-millan-192 yards, 2016 Newton and Greg Olson, 181 yards in 2011, Cam Newton and Steer Smith of 111 yards.
• 2:03:13
  [UNKNOWN]: This feels like tighter-rolling mid-millan.
• 2:03:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, can continue to play a part in unlocking the very best version
• 2:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: of bites that we have ever seen on this field.
• 2:03:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And vice versa.
• 2:03:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a electric in this offense Tony CK.
• 2:03:32
  [UNKNOWN]: If I said this to you one catch nine yards history, what does it mean to you?
• 2:03:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Mingo.
• 2:03:41
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, is that he was I believe.
• 2:03:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's how far he weighed.
• 2:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, he was away.
• 2:03:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Trump, yeah, from setting the all-time record for yards in a game, right?
• 2:03:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was Steve Smith, nine yards more, all to like for yards in a game.
• 2:04:01
  [UNKNOWN]: This was a monumental performance.
• 2:04:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you look at this is, and if I'm not going to just get lost in the muck of my fantasy football teams,
• 2:04:11
  [UNKNOWN]: but I had some strong fantasy football teams, at least by fantasy footballers.
• 2:04:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I hate fantasy football people who think they know it.
• 2:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna have him give me advice.
• 2:04:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't draft running backs on shitty teams because they tell you they're gonna get all this workload because guess what?
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: They all fucking get hurt.
• 2:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: HN, hurt, of a bucket, no.
• 2:04:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Draft players on good teams.
• 2:04:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if they get the workload or not.
• 2:04:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Great players will get the numbers.
• 2:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But I, um, in one of my leagues, I had C.D.
• 2:04:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Lamb and Nico Collins, and then another league I have Nico Collins on my team.
• 2:04:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's been absent.
• 2:04:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's been hurt, right?
• 2:04:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:04:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And my team has struggled and I had other injuries and problems, not just him.
• 2:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He comes back and has a monster game on the one league that I have.
• 2:05:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I got CD Lamb and Nico Collins fucking destroyed like B.S.
• 2:05:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you think about this, as you're looking at that CD lamb game, you're going, man, this is the fucking game of the week for receiver.
• 2:05:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe the game kind of of the season for receiver.
• 2:05:24
  [UNKNOWN]: CDLAM had 21 target 17 receptions, 189 yards.
• 2:05:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He had one touchdown.
• 2:05:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He had 41.3 fantasy football points in general terms, depending on your league.
• 2:05:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But man, Sunday and high football comes around a Tettaro of McMillan, 14 catches, three catches less four yards, three yards more, 192 yards receiving and two touchdowns.
• 2:05:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I tweeted at one point
• 2:05:54
  [UNKNOWN]: that.
• 2:05:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Teterrow meant Melanchid have four touchdowns by the end of this game was like the second order is like a man he should have I go back to this question that you ask about.
• 2:06:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody is about how the usage and things.
• 2:06:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think some of this comes back to this is that Jalen Coker's absence made forced idzie to do these things.
• 2:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you make involved?
• 2:06:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And by the way, he did it and it worked and I think you should also go and comment on that and also comment on the run pass option.
• 2:06:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That seemingly worked very after the Carolina Panthers.
• 2:06:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, listen, I said this after the Browns game.
• 2:06:39
  [UNKNOWN]: That when you look at his stat lined against Denzel Ward, that's so eye-opening that everyone in that organization knows about it.
• 2:06:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It's said that it was down there.
• 2:06:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Tidem.
• 2:06:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Condemnation of their own plant calling.
• 2:06:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 2:06:55
  [UNKNOWN]: By not getting your number one wild receiver,
• 2:07:02
  [UNKNOWN]: literally made it a point to get Ted O'Row and make millions of football.
• 2:07:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And then didn't do that choice though.
• 2:07:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess that's absolutely.
• 2:07:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Did he do that choice?
• 2:07:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Did he learn?
• 2:07:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's part choice.
• 2:07:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I think he learned from the week before and he was forced to do it because of the circumstances of absence of poker.
• 2:07:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I almost don't want to give
• 2:07:30
  [UNKNOWN]: it's too much credit on this.
• 2:07:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, I just want to say, this is what you should fucking be doing.
• 2:07:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it is what you should be doing, but it's just it, and it just is so well, that even in the absence of those other guys that we mentioned, Ted
• 2:07:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And in terms of Carolina Panthers, pass records, real quick, do you want to hear what Cam Doodan had to say about T-Mac and his connection with Brazil?
• 2:08:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, let's go.
• 2:08:07
  [UNKNOWN]: where you have a six four specimen and technique milling, that's looking like the second common of what Andre Johnson, you know, it was both to have the history of the research and something that has never been seen in the Charlotte.
• 2:08:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I look at,
• 2:08:30
  [UNKNOWN]: his trust in Kelvin by the way, and T-Max, similar to the same trust that I had in gray, like they just, they have a good feel for each other.
• 2:08:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And as I'm watching it, I'm like, you know, he's comfortable in this system.
• 2:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's comfortable in knowing where, hey,
• 2:08:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I know where my guy is.
• 2:08:52
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:08:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Dale, when you put in pieces, Darren Waller, when you put in pieces, Chuba, when you put in pieces, other receivers that are coming in and saying, hey, it's your time to make a play.
• 2:09:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys, tonight we're taking turns making plays for Bryce.
• 2:09:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think you started the game 11, 4, 11.
• 2:09:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not easily to do, that's video game like numbers.
• 2:09:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So with that, you have to just tip your head off and acknowledge that this guy is playing and a leat's brand of ball and a leat brand of ball.
• 2:09:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And the office, you know, which coach canaless has been something that has produced week in and week out.
• 2:09:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me ask you this following those comments right there and following that performance after the first couple of weeks, a notable absence in the Browns game, the overshattering shadowing and the coker opportunities in the first two games.
• 2:10:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Some people like to call on the added weight that was put on Teteroma, Mellon.
• 2:10:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like I first I just dismissed that conversation completely, and maybe that's just me like, oh, I need to prove I'm right, but guys, what do you think about that conversation now?
• 2:10:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Is the added weight and how that changed his performance?
• 2:10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that conversation relevant after that performance?
• 2:10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's, it's, we're podcast.
• 2:10:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You got to be able to entertain these discussions.
• 2:10:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 2:10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's okay.
• 2:10:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Have a opinion.
• 2:10:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Say, okay.
• 2:10:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think, do you still think that that anybody who tweeted the weight of this guy, because as a concern about his performance
• 2:11:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're not I mean, the same place that brace haters are.
• 2:11:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not really showing up the same replace that.
• 2:11:14
  [UNKNOWN]: What's his face that calls in during our losses is is is at he's not calling in.
• 2:11:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're not talking about it because right now there's not a lot of evidence to support their their initial.
• 2:11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: The best fucking game in the fucking league, dude.
• 2:11:30
  [UNKNOWN]: he did.
• 2:11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: He balled out.
• 2:11:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, it's a fancy fan slow.
• 2:11:35
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:11:36
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he's not fan slow.
• 2:11:38
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not fan slow.
• 2:11:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And he always said that that was the way that he played at, yes, final season in college.
• 2:11:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, we needed more of a sample size.
• 2:11:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Because we could also be honest, like I don't think that he was one of the biggest factors in the opening two games.
• 2:11:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Not a
• 2:11:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, like, you know, just like we earlier CK, we were talking about the lack of connection between Bryson and Xavier.
• 2:12:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, Bryson and Jalen Coker have the exact opposite connection.
• 2:12:15
  [UNKNOWN]: they have a great connection and they've had one for a long time.
• 2:12:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So I feel like it was almost a addition by subtraction.
• 2:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like by not having the safety blanket of Jalen Coker that it prompted Bryce and Brad is to target the best guy on the field thereby jump starting his usage in this offense, which I think is a great thing.
• 2:12:43
  [UNKNOWN]: to start.
• 2:12:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I was worried that the 20 pounds may have slowed him down.
• 2:12:48
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:12:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, I'm not worried about that.
• 2:12:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a burner.
• 2:12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He is.
• 2:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a burner.
• 2:12:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, I'm going to beat you with.
• 2:12:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's never.
• 2:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He was with everything.
• 2:13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to beat you with size.
• 2:13:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to beat you with catchability.
• 2:13:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to beat you with route.
• 2:13:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like,
• 2:13:13
  [UNKNOWN]: J.P. Tay says can you guys get a still of the sideline catch you can go to the C3 Panthers broadcast I got a short up the and we talked about this in the post game show this third in 14 I think it was three minutes ago
• 2:13:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was poetry emotion.
• 2:13:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It was art for so many reasons.
• 2:13:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce on the run, on the move, throwing a pass, that was exceptional.
• 2:13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And when I say exceptional, a tough catch, like, you know, a tough catch in a sense is like you have to do everything perfect.
• 2:13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: T-Mac with a tow drag incredible.
• 2:13:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And I do think this is a big part of Bryce's development
• 2:13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: is that you take shots.
• 2:14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You have taken those downfield throws or lower percentage throws, right?
• 2:14:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you can you can be 10 for 15 and throw dump passes and have a good throwing percentage.
• 2:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But when you throw these higher lower percentage throws, these guys have made plays.
• 2:14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And those plays have then given Bryce confidence.
• 2:14:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And then Bryce, these, it's, it's momentum rolling.
• 2:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It's, this was fucking beautiful.
• 2:14:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We, we celebrated it so much in the post game.
• 2:14:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, and that, the fact that it's that clear, and it looked in the closer, I mean, this was,
• 2:14:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Fucking, and it's in the roof boys.
• 2:14:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, that's that toe drag swag that your number one wire receiver should happen or should have it.
• 2:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to be drafted him.
• 2:15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: The main point in drafting him was that catch radius.
• 2:15:07
  [UNKNOWN]: all you had to do is put the ball somewhere near Tettaroa and chances are he's coming down with it which is why he has the least drops out of any targeted wide receiver this year uh you know they were feeling it they're this is where you get momentum and you start vibe like
• 2:15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It takes this man.
• 2:15:31
  [UNKNOWN]: It takes like it becomes like C. K said an exponential growth is success becomes exponential in a sense to where you believe these things are going to work and they do work and then that begats success and begats more success.
• 2:15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Fuck it.
• 2:15:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This was an incredible moment.
• 2:15:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And I really think very symbolic of his game that night of both of their games.
• 2:16:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's just here.
• 2:16:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you got to go and look at the Bryce throw too.
• 2:16:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was one of the hardest throws I've ever seen Bryce throw, uh, told him when I told you that Cam didn't, but sometimes the seemingly put a ball,
• 2:16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: through the numbers on the player's test, it felt like Bryce was doing that kind of football.
• 2:16:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what promised me to believe that he was doing with more power than ever before, but Tony, you're saying, okay, that's different.
• 2:16:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's different than I said earlier in the show that Teteroma or that Bryce Yelng, this was his coming out party on Sunday night of football.
• 2:16:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I feel like this was also going to be the moment where T-Mac really sort of shine.
• 2:16:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know that he was the offensive rookie of the year this past year, but he had a record breaking performance in front of the world on Sunday night football.
• 2:17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Now the greater NFL thinks of T-Mac as a legit wide receiver in the NFL up there with a very best
• 2:17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is that game where two Mac entered into that conversation.
• 2:17:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Two points on that as the biggest camp fan, there can be, I'm sorry, like I put my can, camp fan to make it seem anybody, but ultimately at the end of the day, camp's physical ability is what made him more special than anybody.
• 2:17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:17:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So when you say, put a missile on this,
• 2:17:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Like what I saw, what I'm seeing from Bryce is like 10 point accuracy, it's a different style of football, right?
• 2:17:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't think you need to compare them.
• 2:17:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I need to make feel like I don't love Cam because of this.
• 2:18:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But when you talk about a Drew Breeze or a Peyton Manning, this 10 point accuracy,
• 2:18:08
  [UNKNOWN]: My second point to this is you had Tettaroa McMillan have the biggest game in the league, right?
• 2:18:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't think he overshadowed Bryce.
• 2:18:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Like when I walk away from this, I did not go.
• 2:18:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That is, I mean, I think that Bryce's star is shining just as bright.
• 2:18:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But Bryce is easily the conversation of the game because of the history that we have with him.
• 2:18:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And the narrative and the dialogue that there's been around Bryce, you know, Tony, we said that we didn't think that we would see a quarterback more controversial.
• 2:18:50
  [UNKNOWN]: then came, and then here comes the price, y'all.
• 2:18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So then for him to perform the way that he has been has been incredible.
• 2:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know, I did want to dedicate that time to two Mac.
• 2:19:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, certainly.
• 2:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's fantastic.
• 2:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Super hero.
• 2:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: type of performance, one that I think has to harden every Panthers fan about what could this Panthers passing attack look like when we finally do have everyone healthy we might be able to put up some real points this year but wouldn't it be natural with a game with his statistics for him to be the story?
• 2:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that he doesn't over.
• 2:19:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he has not, his storyline is existing, his star is like his shining, but I don't think it eclipse to me.
• 2:19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: How about that price?
• 2:19:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But let's go to these star records.
• 2:19:43
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this, Tony, Bryce, young?
• 2:19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: He might not even be the story of the Carolina Panthers.
• 2:19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: If you can tend to set the pace that he is, he might be the story and the NFL do.
• 2:19:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, MVP.
• 2:19:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the right thing.
• 2:19:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, whenever I bring to you these power rankings, normally I'm showing you some publication that has criminally undervalued.
• 2:20:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But here I bring to you ANCK and to the faithful of the C3 Legion.
• 2:20:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Fox NFL writer Ralph Vatciano has the Panthers as his number 12 overall team.
• 2:20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: By the way, he has just ranked ahead of the Cleveland Browns who have a victory over.
• 2:20:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, have so far.
• 2:20:36
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, interesting.
• 2:20:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And fine with it.
• 2:20:41
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, when we look at these rankings, we always
• 2:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe shouldn't be ahead and also teams around and behind that are different.
• 2:20:52
  [UNKNOWN]: That should be ranked differently.
• 2:20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm glancing over this right now.
• 2:20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see the Panthers ranked that eye.
• 2:21:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers could be a punching contender.
• 2:21:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I almost feel like this is the Eagles need to be dropped down in this list.
• 2:21:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I would move this.
• 2:21:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I would move the eagles down.
• 2:21:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I would move the cowboys and the rounds up.
• 2:21:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm the falcons.
• 2:21:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I'm moving the falcons up.
• 2:21:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they deserve it.
• 2:21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I look, Tony, we've been talking, I said before about Panther's sense for the division.
• 2:21:38
  [UNKNOWN]: To right now, it feels like Panther's Falcons.
• 2:21:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That does not seem like the same team.
• 2:21:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 2:21:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree.
• 2:21:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 2:21:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Two, they are far more potent in the passing attack.
• 2:21:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Say whatever you want about Michael Pinnick's for the most part.
• 2:21:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is a pretty good power range.
• 2:21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: All the teams.
• 2:21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the Baltimore Ravens down a hair just because, look, I mean, I know they have Lamar.
• 2:22:05
  [UNKNOWN]: They, I mean, they kind of deserve to be among the middle.
• 2:22:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I would bring down Minnesota, even though Minnesota's undefeated, their handle bangles on this lane.
• 2:22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying we should be better than those teams.
• 2:22:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think this is, I think the raiders are in a good spot.
• 2:22:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I think this is, if I'm looking at this list, I look at the cowboys, but actually
• 2:22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, can you comment on these?
• 2:22:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think, uh, to me, um, I think the Raiders are wofully, uh, ill-placed at 14.
• 2:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: They're pretty fucking good.
• 2:22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 2:23:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't, well, I don't know the Vikings.
• 2:23:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I would piss the writers ahead of the Eagles easily too.
• 2:23:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I think right now I don't see enough to justify having the raiders behind us.
• 2:23:13
  [UNKNOWN]: to be honest with you.
• 2:23:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're three and one.
• 2:23:15
  [UNKNOWN]: They just took the Kansas City chiefs who are ranked number two all the way to the to the very end of the gas.
• 2:23:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And the chiefs did the chiefship where they scored two touchdowns in eight seconds over a fumble and do Kenneth Walker to run it back for the chiefs.
• 2:23:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Do he's looking like
• 2:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:23:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think that these are good rankings.
• 2:23:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And like I said, there's there's so much left to shake out.
• 2:23:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And like I said, I compare us a lot to that 49er scene and that we're having to win with a bunch of hurt players.
• 2:24:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And to be the rams are overrated too.
• 2:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, no, I have to be in the top 10.
• 2:24:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I haven't been to Broncos or kind of overrated.
• 2:24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, do you think those are the questions?
• 2:24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But the rams stuck in.
• 2:24:18
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not, like, it's all names and paper.
• 2:24:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm Aaron Donald and Miles.
• 2:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Aaron are both there.
• 2:24:26
  [UNKNOWN]: They're missing time.
• 2:24:28
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, what's next?
• 2:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: uh uh we went through this we went through that we went through that well don't worry you're talking about bad things because you said you're wanting to talk about the cover chain um and to me this kind of leads into that right so Brad it's six flying start with the Panthers builds his
• 2:24:50
  [UNKNOWN]: and coach case, the Carolina Panthers and the football win against the Detroit Lions proved that Dave Canales needs to start preparing for the life after offensive coordinator Brad Isaac.
• 2:25:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Isaac, who was in his first season, calling in place for Carolina, has turned Bryson from a bus to an efficient west coast operator, and finally, a leader of a vertical
• 2:25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Young is not only two for two on the season, but it currently leads to NFL and passing yards.
• 2:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It should be given a great deal of credit for this turnaround.
• 2:25:26
  [UNKNOWN]: If it keeps it up for the rest of the 2020 season, I think that is helping on trying to find the next offensive genius who can give their teams a high floor on that side of the ball.
• 2:25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: it's a compressing while being giving the cues to the proverbial kingdom.
• 2:25:42
  [UNKNOWN]: All ready is a major feather in his cap, and it could lead to him getting a deserved promotion.
• 2:25:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell him a motion to what?
• 2:25:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I had coach.
• 2:25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, premature.
• 2:25:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Why know that premature.
• 2:25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you, as I think it's the changing of the structure of the Carolina Panthers has been better, right?
• 2:26:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we've leaned in to Canalis's true superpower, the Ted Lasso moment of what he really is.
• 2:26:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 2:26:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care as Canalist talks about, like he misses the high, he keeps talking about this, is like he wants to be the play caller.
• 2:26:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, I missed the excitement of that 40-second rush that comes with it.
• 2:26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But nothing to us, nothing has suggested that Canalis was this fucking offensive genius, right?
• 2:26:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And he had a very short term, is an offensive coordinator for one year with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 2:26:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He then took on a lot.
• 2:26:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this structure of him,
• 2:26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: with somebody he can like I just feel like the the I guess the designation of roles has been beneficial for the Carolina Panthers.
• 2:27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Brad is it has breathed life into the panthers in a sense.
• 2:27:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's captured a lot of things, but I don't
• 2:27:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I go like, oh, fucking genius for fucking feeding Ted a row of McMillan on Monday night football.
• 2:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Number two, I think that he's good, but I think it would be premature to just say, I think it's kind of like it kind of reminds me a little bit of that guy from Houston.
• 2:27:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Who's, I don't remember, I remember who is the guy who is our quarterback that we should let it's Bryson and CJ Strav like it's just I think that this is I can congratulate it's it I can think he's doing a great job, but I don't know if I if I was an owner that I'm like, oh, 12 get a 17 games let's go
• 2:28:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, this is why I disagree.
• 2:28:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me, look, even in losing performance against the cleaves and browns, Bryson still put up 200 yards.
• 2:28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: had 19 yards.
• 2:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: What about that?
• 2:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, what I'm saying is it's even a losing effort against the Chicago Bears to start the season.
• 2:28:29
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers put up almost 40 points.
• 2:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Telling the difference.
• 2:28:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That makes you a head coach.
• 2:28:34
  [UNKNOWN]: No, what I'm saying is that the difference between Duke and
• 2:28:47
  [UNKNOWN]: different.
• 2:28:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is what I'm saying, but this is the point though.
• 2:28:51
  [UNKNOWN]: If Bryce Young stays on the trajectory that he is now, and let's say he's putting up MVP numbers at the end of the season, and the Panthers are still rewriting their own personal records like T-Mac did on Sunday night football.
• 2:29:09
  [UNKNOWN]: If we put together more and more of these performances,
• 2:29:14
  [UNKNOWN]: this article has the truth of it.
• 2:29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: The NFL goes based on trends.
• 2:29:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone is looking for their next version of Ben Johnson and Tony, maybe you are right, maybe he is another Bobby Solick,
• 2:29:29
  [UNKNOWN]: back in here.
• 2:29:30
  [UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying to be a coordinator for another one.
• 2:29:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But that is not going to stop teams from knocking at the door of Brad is to see if he is ready to bring that office to another football team and told me when Brad or when Dave can now this did give up playing Colin duties.
• 2:29:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what I was scared of.
• 2:29:53
  [UNKNOWN]: because now let's say this does happen and Ben is against a bunch of coaching opportunities at the end of the season.
• 2:30:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Now Panther fans are depending upon going back to Dame Canalis, who was the last time he was the plant caller, yeah, he might be reaching to do it, but the last time we saw him
• 2:30:15
  [UNKNOWN]: it really wasn't that great.
• 2:30:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So now you're hoping that Dave can now this is even though he's no longer calling in place that he is also learning growing and evolving and taking notes from what Brad is doing as the play caller because it has been a night and day difference.
• 2:30:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And by the opinion my thought is if your Brad is in you can get a head coaching job you take it
• 2:30:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's with the worst fucking team in the league.
• 2:30:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You just do it because those cycles don't come around much.
• 2:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: There's only two of those jobs in the world.
• 2:30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And Joe Brady's kind of an anomaly that he did not get cast off.
• 2:31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, is take it if you can.
• 2:31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're Brad, it's it.
• 2:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I would not.
• 2:31:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is, I think Ben Johnson benefited from developing a little bit more and is experience with a good offense going forward.
• 2:31:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what will happen and I certainly will not tell Brent is it to turn anything down.
• 2:31:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He should take it if it comes about.
• 2:31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: If I'm an owner, I don't go this quick, this young, that early, that's just me.
• 2:31:36
  [UNKNOWN]: If my young is an MVP after most of the things, I mean, you're not going to be with all of them.
• 2:31:41
  [UNKNOWN]: No, mental was calling him a bust, people are going to be banging on his.
• 2:31:47
  [UNKNOWN]: You won't be able to stop the momentum.
• 2:31:49
  [UNKNOWN]: What's next?
• 2:31:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Because we got a few more calls to take two.
• 2:31:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So go to the next topic.
• 2:31:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, how about this, uh, C. Kid, did you want to get in on this Brad?
• 2:31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a conversation.
• 2:31:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I've been going to the calls.
• 2:32:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've been saying it for a minute.
• 2:32:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's one of my worst fears that we are going to have uh, another scenario where we finally get an offense and then they hire the offensive coordinator that actually unlocked everything out from underneath us.
• 2:32:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It genuinely does worry me a little bit because as much as I'd love to sit here and say that, you know, Dave canal, it has been a difference maker.
• 2:32:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that I can say that based on the first two years of his tenure here, but this offense being as potent as it is now.
• 2:32:34
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a huge deal.
• 2:32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: breaking running, you know, the running record.
• 2:32:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a lot of football to be played to, but there's, I mean, you tell me, if you're, if you're right now, Tennessee Titans, and you have Brad Isaac, who has a history of, you know, being with Dave Canales and in turning around quarterbacks that have seen them, they're, they're, they're unfortunate assumption that they're a bust.
• 2:33:10
  [UNKNOWN]: and he's able to turn those people around Brad Zidz, it's it's it's it's it's unlocks Brysion.
• 2:33:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, are you not common for this dude to possibly be the coach?
• 2:33:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you can and you should.
• 2:33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's reasonable.
• 2:33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think this resembles a Bobby Slowic a little event.
• 2:33:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure, but I guess my seat is CK to and I think those guys are making great points.
• 2:33:34
  [UNKNOWN]: is do you think we could weather the storm though, the transition of that change?
• 2:33:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So say Brad Isaac does get a head coaching job and moves on.
• 2:33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I do truly feel like it's easier to either bring in an offensive coordinator or bringing an assistant offensive coordinator whenever
• 2:34:04
  [UNKNOWN]: or if you're a Todd Bowls or if you know like I do think this is that having an offensive minded person will make that transition easier.
• 2:34:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Not that the subtraction makes you better, but if you were just a defensive coach and you're putting it all on that, I think we could find a way to transition through that much easier than we would be.
• 2:34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: If we had Bryce and we had this fucking mastermind guy and it was all clickin' and then he left and then we're left with like, how do we do this?
• 2:34:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's, that's the, the only value that I, I can take from what we're dealing with currently is that I don't think it is a full reset, if Brad and Zigg does get a second hard elsewhere.
• 2:34:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Three quarter, a half reset, right?
• 2:34:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's, I think it's enough of a reset to where we have to really can, you know, have a discussion about who is the offensive coordinator and do we really let, do we see Dave Canales taking back play call and duties, which I think if you're trying to
• 2:35:12
  [UNKNOWN]: do we become the Eagles in a sense with Seriani and Shane Steiken leaving and and them trying yeah how about this um I don't know man I would say it's it take the fucking job if you can get it and if we if he's getting head coach job that means my my
• 2:35:41
  [UNKNOWN]: from our code C3P baby, let's take another call and we still got we got to get to this show man.
• 2:35:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It's been fantastic.
• 2:35:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's fun.
• 2:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Football is fun again.
• 2:35:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We only have five more slides.
• 2:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Good.
• 2:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You know I might say 83 TV.
• 2:35:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, my second call was on a day.
• 2:35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm good to see.
• 2:35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But with from the summer night, game was still go kicker.
• 2:36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the fuck happened to them.
• 2:36:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, like, you know, like, you can't be missed a fucking field at a point
• 2:36:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I don't know what the fun is problem was.
• 2:36:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of the night, if you might need some of that, then glass, this is fucking context.
• 2:36:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And now this day, I don't know, since it's fucking odd, doctor, but you can't, you miss this fucking extra point.
• 2:36:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It sure goes money.
• 2:36:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It can't be doing that.
• 2:36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, so I can't, we haven't got them kicker rolls no more, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:36:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We just cannot.
• 2:36:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We just cannot.
• 2:36:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I said, man, I'm just excited, man, to see what a defense is going to look like.
• 2:36:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And another thing we should change on defense, going forward.
• 2:36:40
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... a keyless evidence maybe you go ahead and cut off on your phone when it played but really got the hill and sit down but uh... uh... a key with evidence about us as all game you don't have one good play you had to got them up past the friction in the end zone besides that sit here and got that miss there's some good Williams on the deep ball you know i'll say you got them missing a little bit but you know if you would know
• 2:37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: you know.
• 2:37:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm your father, whoever we play, man, or I see we did sound Marco Woodson, or put Michael Woodson on the upside of the wheelie, you know, saying, going for it.
• 2:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And real quick, my real quick hot set.
• 2:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's too soon for this with me personally.
• 2:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's how we go ahead and move off from J.C. Horn, J.C. Horn to space, hurt too hurt for me.
• 2:37:33
  [UNKNOWN]: You look at all the other top corners and the
• 2:37:38
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... thirty ten for the bronchles dollars for the patriots they all just work way more reliable and they're both cornerbacks you know we get we can still have a hundred million and you always fucking hurt you know so me personally in all season i would trade they see horn we saw my jackson and that we got their corner and this people push us from there you know
• 2:38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I was, you know, I'm the dumb as they see, man.
• 2:38:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a see-all with hurt, man.
• 2:38:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it had one, all the last year with all the year, you put a whole season of, you know, be a hurt.
• 2:38:15
  [UNKNOWN]: The whole time he'd been in the league, like, this is, I don't get it.
• 2:38:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I never heard of it.
• 2:38:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time to have that conversation.
• 2:38:20
  [UNKNOWN]: What, what year from now?
• 2:38:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, about the injuries and everything.
• 2:38:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyways, man, it was a great fucking win.
• 2:38:28
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got a lot of brats, isn't man.
• 2:38:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You've got, you know, finally, you know, telling your man.
• 2:38:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Sounds football.
• 2:38:34
  [UNKNOWN]: A balanced offense.
• 2:38:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's got that ever roll.
• 2:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The defense, finally, the defense looks fucking, you know, remarkable, you know, I'm saying.
• 2:38:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, obviously, injuries that we had on, you know, looks fucking amazing.
• 2:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, it's man.
• 2:38:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody have a great week.
• 2:38:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep fucking pounded.
• 2:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get ready to say this.
• 2:38:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Enjoy.
• 2:38:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Can't pound, baby, hey, is it, I mean, is it too, is it too late to start having these conversations about D.C. horns?
• 2:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Two are late.
• 2:39:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he had two seasons where he was healthy and he made a lot of money and he looked good in doing so, but I don't know.
• 2:39:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't know.
• 2:39:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we're going to get lost in a time warp of this.
• 2:39:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's, no, we're not going to get in that spiral right now is.
• 2:39:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even actually, I would, I think the more important question guys is not if what you think about J.C. Horn and injury status or I hear Mike Jack and J.C. Horn on IR obviously, everybody, I mean, it's not I hear it exists, but like do you think the timeline for these guys is reasonable?
• 2:39:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, are you, I had a slide up earlier as like about when we were talking about, maybe five borrow, right, and trying to find a way to get through this.
• 2:40:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, do you really believe that we just have eight weeks to get through or four weeks for these?
• 2:40:26
  [UNKNOWN]: that I'm not counting on these guys sooner than later.
• 2:40:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know.
• 2:40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that they're not working hard.
• 2:40:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying they're not going to heal.
• 2:40:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think if you give us a four week timeline on one guy and a week, I usually think those are optimistic timelines.
• 2:40:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, J.C. Horn win healthy is one of the better shut down corners in the NFL, and I don't think that's really even up for discussion.
• 2:40:56
  [UNKNOWN]: The dude is really good.
• 2:40:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think, you know,
• 2:41:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It just is a part of his history, the injury.
• 2:41:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think he's going to be back when do you, I mean, actually, I don't want to get lost in this conversation.
• 2:41:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It shows long enough and got plenty of time, but these are things to think about is, is he going to be back sooner than later or later than sooner in the same for Mike Jack.
• 2:41:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I had surgery, it comes back.
• 2:41:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to be in the mix.
• 2:41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
• 2:41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Because if we're not, like, let's just say for whatever God forsaken reason, we just flounder and just revert back to the old Carolina Panthers, you probably don't even see Jason horn the rest of the year.
• 2:41:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I like how people think Mike Jack can be back sooner.
• 2:41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, yeah, it's it's like, and you know what?
• 2:41:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And nobody's talking about that with Jonathan Brooks.
• 2:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody's like, oh, well, he'll be back in four weeks.
• 2:41:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They have basically, I don't know if it was the same surgery, but it's, I don't want to overestimate their timelines or underestimate them.
• 2:42:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you have to be prepared for them to be late, additions, and hopeful additions to this team this season.
• 2:42:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd 100% agree.
• 2:42:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that you have to move forward as though neither of them are going to be playing on this team of the rest this year.
• 2:42:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's a plus if they could come back and actually be.
• 2:42:32
  [UNKNOWN]: who they are.
• 2:42:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I don't think here's the thing right now is there's a lot of questions about who do you bring in if you're interested in bringing anybody in.
• 2:42:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know what the right answer is, but I can tell you what, as much as I would love to have an upgrade at the position, the likes of where I think they would look at at least what it sounds like, Troy Pride was working out for us this week.
• 2:42:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure that there are already calling a few other cornerbacks, but if you're not getting one of the top remaining quarterbacks on the free agency market right now.
• 2:43:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that there's much of a difference between what we saw happen to Evans on Sunday.
• 2:43:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I just be ready for that.
• 2:43:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's got to be.
• 2:43:15
  [UNKNOWN]: It has to be somebody that is of a higher caliber than.
• 2:43:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, no, no shade to Troy pride, like whatsoever, but I just don't think that we can hang our hats on the idea that a guy who couldn't make it as CB2 or even CB3 in the league, it's somebody that you can rely on coming in here and holding up their end.
• 2:43:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's power three.
• 2:43:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We got, let's do a couple more calls on this finish.
• 2:43:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a lot to
• 2:43:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, I'm listening to the share of watching a live, is that you link, Northern Alvalla, so, and more income.
• 2:43:55
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up, baby?
• 2:43:57
  [UNKNOWN]: His first round was on a worst side we've ever seen, with the honest.
• 2:44:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He missed on everyone's every pic in 2024 graph.
• 2:44:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It was on draft for free agent.
• 2:44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Besides that, the last two years you've been doing fantastic.
• 2:44:13
  [UNKNOWN]: excellent, but let's not give him a pass just yet or say he's the best because his first draft was terrible and I don't think Jonathan Brooks is going to be in a thought that he's more tired next year honestly.
• 2:44:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to be guys what he's saying about that and also think about what we can do is comparable.
• 2:44:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a tough questions, tough questions there.
• 2:44:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if retirement is what I expect or if I'm Jonathan Brooks, I hope for.
• 2:44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think Jonathan Brooks is in a difficult position, right?
• 2:44:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it is not analogous or exactly like Xavier LaGets.
• 2:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: but I think this is you have moments with teams that you have opportunities and those windows close at certain times.
• 2:45:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and quickly, and maybe not as quickly as they could have or should have, it's very unfortunate for Jonathan Brooks, but I think this is the idea that we think that Mike Jack who had a growing surgery, I don't know the exact surgery, but
• 2:45:23
  [UNKNOWN]: we know that Jonathan Brooks had a sportarnia surgery like is being over optimistic on these timelines is difficult and look we saw Jonathan Brooks who I was so excited about as him as a part player and a person but he didn't look.
• 2:45:49
  [UNKNOWN]: what he was right as soon as that groin that sports in injury hurt.
• 2:45:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is that arguably his season is over for the Carolina Panthers and I don't mean that to him to say your season is over but I think it would be wild to believe that he is going to be a difference maker down the stretch for the Carolina Panthers and if that's not like
• 2:46:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That means his tenure for Carolina, maybe he can find a place somewhere else.
• 2:46:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next call two more to go and then we'll finish out our discussion.
• 2:46:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Holy shit, bro.
• 2:46:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I had it.
• 2:46:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I was holding the mask.
• 2:46:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It was so long out there.
• 2:46:51
  [UNKNOWN]: What was through to you with my dog, man?
• 2:46:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey.
• 2:46:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's happened.
• 2:46:55
  [UNKNOWN]: It's over the moon.
• 2:46:57
  [UNKNOWN]: A fucking panther football on a Tuesday night, baby.
• 2:46:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The season is here.
• 2:47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We're two and two, which is five hundred and bright sons about to get.
• 2:47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey.
• 2:47:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to talk about a few players, not named King Bryce.
• 2:47:15
  [UNKNOWN]: now low we got to talk about now low um certified alien obviously clearly a certified alien um once daily co-workers comes back and we have a healthy valencoker now low and now wide receiver three john messy Bryce Young's best friend and yes he's with us
• 2:47:40
  [UNKNOWN]: this office is going to be absolutely fucking dangerous.
• 2:47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god we've got to talk about Darren Waller.
• 2:47:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Darren Waller and the connection that he has is Bryce Young right now is fucking flawless.
• 2:47:54
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't even tell that these guys are brand and teammate.
• 2:47:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It looks like the connection between Darren Waller and Bryce Young has just been straight business like straight,
• 2:48:07
  [UNKNOWN]: just getting money types in it and I all I can do with the fucking respect the fuck out of that man like like I love to see the fucking connection between their wall or and fucking and came bright another person I want to talk about not gets that gets no fucking play it's the ladies and raffle man that is a bona fide fucking uh... still i can't cut them out of the fact that mix got still tell this fucking day
• 2:48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: get more reps than him and the shout out to Wheatley as well dog, I do the fucking dog.
• 2:48:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Both of those young safety have just been planned out of their fucking minds, man, just straight dog.
• 2:48:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, oh, I just, I just seen, um,
• 2:48:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Prince Leigh, shout out to fucking Prince Leigh, is on a pace for fucking eight to nine stacks this year.
• 2:48:58
  [UNKNOWN]: The dudes been getting to the fucking quarterback, just play a phenomenal, man, just play straight phenomenal.
• 2:49:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, my wife is having a brother.
• 2:49:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I got one more call, I'm calling back, baby.
• 2:49:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, my, look, love G baby love and look, that was like a very G baby.
• 2:49:15
  [UNKNOWN]: As he's back.
• 2:49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He's back.
• 2:49:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He must have been outside.
• 2:49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't whispering in the bathroom.
• 2:49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, if he wasn't back for this kind of performances for Brasio, he's also been very, like is reserved and calm.
• 2:49:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Like every time Brasio has a great game, it's like it's like G baby's barely G baby.
• 2:49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Like this is,
• 2:49:37
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it looks really awesome.
• 2:49:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's toned it down, so.
• 2:49:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, and I think maybe being a father, right?
• 2:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
• 2:49:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Is I agree with this point is like Ted, Ted, J.L.
• 2:49:52
  [UNKNOWN]: and Coker, like his on paper, all this makes sense.
• 2:49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And how it can only disguise the limit.
• 2:50:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's one underlying thing that
• 2:50:07
  [UNKNOWN]: is that this offensive line has to improve, which I mean, it's on the verge of.
• 2:50:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's truly on the verge of, I mean, they're anticipating Taylor Moton is going to be coming back.
• 2:50:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they got to be like, like, don't want to get to that.
• 2:50:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a name.
• 2:50:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, like, yes, let's talk about it is that I think that that's the true story of Bryce's excellency this year is that do we get behind something that's not perfect and not only not perfect, but
• 2:50:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think for this team to really truly become a juggernaut, a juggernaut is not tuba getting guards behind a line that can barely block or get barely get a push, is for the line somehow.
• 2:51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: to be stronger.
• 2:51:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think, I mean, you can tell me, Tettaro is the best.
• 2:51:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Fine, gentlemen, Coker is the truce of the squeeze.
• 2:51:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce is King Bryce.
• 2:51:12
  [UNKNOWN]: You can tell me all those things, but they can only do so much behind a porous line that he's been among the worst, guys.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: this team is so banged up and battered, and it was still first place in the NFC South even after the Falcons put it to the scene in the super dome last night, uh, we're tied for first with the tie breaker.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My advice is to bet your money on that first bit, back, back it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm gonna tell you this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've been making our picks throughout the,
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  [UNKNOWN]: season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I have done the better job guys of keeping up with it after week four.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I was three and seven.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We were tied up and then I had a bad week four.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I moved to three and seven.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody was four and six.
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  [UNKNOWN]: C. K was four and six.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let me tell him right here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We all had green bay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody had both of y'all had the Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You two moved to six games, but here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And this is actually the one I felt the best about, but I was like, in my heart, I was kind of scared in the background and made the pick on the radio on Pirate Radio.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody's record is at six and seven and C. K takes the lead at seven and six, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's how that works out.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, not for a second.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But if you had to bet
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so I guess, look, I'm putting you down for the Cowboys, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm thinking the Cowboys, you think I win more than a dude.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think this Tampa Bay Buck and Eros team is legit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: One of the worst teams in football dude.
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  [UNKNOWN]: When you look at who they have at quarterback,
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  [UNKNOWN]: The dude that poor guy has been thrown to the wolves and I don't just do that having easy schedule and I think that that press caught and see the lamb are playing their best football So yeah dude, I think and the Cowboys were at home and it's at 815 so what that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm putting on this right away.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, dude.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Calboys.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're going to put up more than they're going to win by more than that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Eight is just rich.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's the thing is like once we start getting these above six and a half, I bet I'm picking the Calboys.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is non spread right now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so first I'm going to be taking, uh,
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's such a tough one to decide.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How would you pick the bucks on the road?
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  [UNKNOWN]: They don't have to make their steal.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Baker's not coming back, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: No way.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I got his data.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't really mean any of that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is the 8 points true rich for you, CK?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, no.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's reasonable.
• 2:59:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I'm with Cody, is I think this is a bad, I might play it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Cowboys are in a thump.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm starring it right here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right, why you can permacose 3p, my book, you know, aging.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Minnesota Vikings at New Orleans Saints.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I, we're straight up.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We are making our pitch straight up.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We don't pick against this bread as us.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Vikings.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Saints.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, you go.
• 2:59:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I think the Saints are going to rebound.
• 2:59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, to me, and I, you know, I'm sort of known for saying, you don't know who the good teams are until after week six of the NFL season.
• 2:59:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the Vikings are frauds.
• 2:59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think their defense is damn good.
• 2:59:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with that.
• 2:59:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think their defense is damn good.
• 2:59:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Not thing away from them, but I think the Saints, they're at home.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's one p.m.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 3:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: and agreed that they lost the 20 year anniversary of the reopened of the super dome to their division rival.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All their fans were there looking to celebrate.
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  [UNKNOWN]: To me this is a team pissed off.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're only plus two at home so they're barely an underdog.
• 3:00:27
  [UNKNOWN]: They're barely an underdog.
• 3:00:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to wall and straight up I think they get the W.
• 3:00:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the sense as well, because I agree, like with your, you have converted me to that six week thing, um, I just don't think they're complete.
• 3:00:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, but I need to watch them more, too.
• 3:00:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't say is like, I need to watch them more.
• 3:00:56
  [UNKNOWN]: You can say that the Vikings offense look to better with Carson Wentz than it did with Calamari.
• 3:01:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 3:01:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 3:01:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's an argument and Justin Jefferson will be back.
• 3:01:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We still have to monitor that.
• 3:01:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it's kind of interesting right here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What it tells you is the under is 42.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So they are not expecting the Vikings to put up significant points.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're hoping they're not hoping, but they're expecting to keep the Saints down.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I got the Saints.
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  [UNKNOWN]: CK, who do you got?
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  [UNKNOWN]: I am taking the Vikings.
• 3:01:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, nice.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That defense is is real.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that I don't not with without a run game.
• 3:01:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they can stop that past rush from getting home to be honest like I so and that's not just wishful thinking I think that the Falcons exposed a great deal of what the what the.
• 3:01:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And that in my opinion, what they have been has been a team that has faced less than ideal talent, and I think they got taken home at a really bad spot.
• 3:02:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you said, they might be sour about that, but they should have been incredibly prepared for that game and they lost to the falcons in a way that was embarrassing.
• 3:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I would tell you this, as I'm with Cody a lot on this, is I don't think, well, I mean, I don't know if Cody said this, but I don't think that the Saints performance against the Falcons in the case of how it's been a or, and I don't think that the Vikings performance against the box in the case of how good they are.
• 3:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would say this if I'm betting these.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm most comfortable with this.
• 3:02:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I would probably I don't know if I would take Cowboys bucks plus eight or try to take the over at 47
• 3:03:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I might say Cowboys plus eight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's a risk.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sitting here going.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I might bet on the Saints cover in this too.
• 3:03:18
  [UNKNOWN]: This might as to, but you know what, maybe we should be looking at that over.
• 3:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think so too.
• 3:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you look at that over, we can both teams put up 21 points.
• 3:03:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that the saints are more capable of scoring points than the Vikings.
• 3:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just I have more susceptible to allowing points.
• 3:03:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The real question is, how good is that Minnesota defense?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Because I know a lot of the metrics are saying Minnesota has one of the best defenses in the United States.
• 3:03:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But do you think they're going to blind come?
• 3:03:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I'm taking the over and the would you feel more comfortable taking the Saints with to lose by to that means they could win or lose by one or two or would you more feel comfortable feel more comfortable with 43 bit points being scored in this game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I would take the Saints plus two, but I would also take the under on 42 under I'm taking the over okay again that that's to me it's I don't think they're going to shot it's to pick it on Minnesota do men Minnesota camp score yeah they they they're not good score it
• 3:04:40
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that's a great point in this great point.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Final game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So we've got I've got the Cowboys Cody's got the cow.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody's got the Cowboys.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right got the Saints.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody's got the Saints.
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  [UNKNOWN]: CK's got the Vikings.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Final game Baltimore Ravens at Atlanta Falcons.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I was a little astonished that this line is this favorable for the Falcons.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I thought it might have been one and a half
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  [UNKNOWN]: Well, he got to win the game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry about the spread.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just straight up one.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going Falcons.
• 3:05:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Falcons are going to get a WWE and so even though don't think Lamar Jackson is playing his best football, shout out to Josh, is Lamar out, is Lamar going to be playing, if Lamar is not playing, if Lamar is not playing, that's Atlanta.
• 3:05:42
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I need to know this because.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's important.
• 3:05:47
  [UNKNOWN]: is Lamar and then JP also says no Lamar Tony that's what I'm taking the I'm taking the Falcon then because no Lamar that's it is I was I think this could have been Lamar healthy Lamar I think this is one of those games that brings people back reality or do you have not this Lamar's outfit two to four weeks oh gosh all right so what's your best
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I mean, not so.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think I can't go far crazy and do it's not crazy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Here's the deal man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're putting correlate this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're putting up points.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't even be surprised.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is a backup quarterback for the fucking really highly that's who it's been the last.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're serious.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I even kind of like the over.
• 3:07:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know about that.
• 3:07:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, considering they're putting up 30 something by themselves and they put up 45 under warlands.
• 3:07:12
  [UNKNOWN]: What is Baltimore's defense really been looking like so far?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is that I don't know off the top of my head?
• 3:07:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Not bad, not great, but like would you feel better?
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  [UNKNOWN]: How much feel better about Falcons minus 3?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Think Cowboys minus 8.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, just because it's big, like me and like maybe Tampa does some stupid shit.
• 3:07:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I, you know what I disagree with you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think Dallas is going to pad all the book in here as man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I really do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think there are a lot of more unity.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Baltimore there, you know, I think their defense is going to make it interesting.
• 3:07:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But if there's no tomorrow, oh, yeah, that's where I might find out how come they're going to.
• 3:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: How about you guys?
• 3:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: There it is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What is the bet on favorite on my book, e.g.
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  [UNKNOWN]: that you feel best about and you feel better
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Falcon's winning by more than three.
• 3:08:25
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, those are the two.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like the Vikings' Saints game is the one I don't want to mess with as much.
• 3:08:34
  [UNKNOWN]: There's more uncertainty.
• 3:08:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know who's good, who's bad, who's fake, who's fraud.
• 3:08:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that one could go a different ways.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sitting here going, I like, if I was put at place in my bets and I had to bet on each game, I would take Dallas cover in the points.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I would take the over on the 42.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But I think Cody made me feel wary about that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't want to mess with that game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to mess with the Viking and Saints.
• 3:09:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm starting with no one more Jackson.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the Falcons getting a run.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of feel it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm interested in the Falcons covering.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's go to the next.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We got a couple more things to take care.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we got a lot more to take care of.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have, um, you don't have three more slides.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see, did we hear this?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Hold on, this is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is the last call tonight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, we have three.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Last call.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is the last call tonight.
• 3:09:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's back.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's going hot, Kate.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's not the same.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The young beef is that bald headed by the fucking name.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Edero Evero.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's still on the hot.
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  [UNKNOWN]: See, I still want him to get the fuck out of Karolina.
• 3:10:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, this office is averaging over 30 points again, boys.
• 3:10:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, that is fucked up phenomenal, phenomenal work.
• 3:10:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, King Bride has seen the field very, very well.
• 3:10:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he's kicking ass and he's taking the names, man.
• 3:10:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, the speed is just slow down.
• 3:10:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just a cut in like three, four, it's just a half, just completely has just flowed the game has just flowed down for bright, but this is my thing, run.
• 3:10:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like the game was slow for bright here one.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The game was slow for bright here one, but when you have multiple different head coaches, multiple, fucking coordinators, Adam Theland and a bunch of fucking people that aren't even NFL, including Adam Theland, it's an ace you look back and it's just fake and just like damn man, this dude had to fucking turn shit into lemonade and the fact that he could just have his head high.
• 3:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: and always gives grace and glory to fucking God.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is he such a fucking great human being, bruh?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We don't have to worry about fucking bright son out, fucking club and out night.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We don't have to fucking worry about bright son getting into fucking trouble, bruh.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He puts God first, man.
• 3:11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And I just, just the heat, the absolute heat.
• 3:11:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He was fucking tasting from Dave's analysis,
• 3:11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... the organization pocket trash asked fair weather fan here kept a caravan is just it's kept his eye his head high it's just kept it pushing dog and doesn't even go on social media it's just that can't do it with my fair player of all time that's like a player of all time i want you i want to get that straight i'm well second this is that i have a pricey on this hate it just takes different because
• 3:11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: This man has an entire world against him and just to see him prevail and just just to see him right his own story the way he is man In V nine the spirit and that fucking MVP conversation Cody lack oh my god, I'm I'm on your last.
• 3:12:08
  [UNKNOWN]: No, did y'all promise you Promise you will you will you will been that goddamn meme of the fucker promise you that notification
• 3:12:21
  [UNKNOWN]: on cell phone screens, TV screens, that's fucking a computer screen, but it hit like crap in the 80s, baby.
• 3:12:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I kept all my receipts.
• 3:12:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:12:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I hit like crap in the 80s, you know.
• 3:12:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, Cody, take us through the final parts of the show.
• 3:12:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna crush it.
• 3:12:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna do it.
• 3:12:40
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• 3:12:42
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• 3:12:47
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• 3:12:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You are about this cool was a person that I could think of.
• 3:12:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You are like what?
• 3:13:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody like to be.
• 3:13:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Do shout out to you, baby.
• 3:13:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I know if I ever been that neat because they're always fucking doing them sitting down, duh.
• 3:13:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, so the, let's talk about the bi we can vantage Tony, C. K. Uh, nobody.
• 3:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: This is where we get to know our foe, but there is no foe to get to know because we get to rest.
• 3:13:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We get to have our version of the Sabbath for the NFL season where we just get to chill, relax, enjoy our family, and look ahead to what's coming next on the Panthers accountable, telling you through this together, the Panthers are resting, the Panthers are healing, and the Panthers are resetting.
• 3:13:52
  [UNKNOWN]: and I think that's important too.
• 3:13:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned some of the things that are kind of making this the perfect time for a by-week.
• 3:14:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously the injuries, that's a given, but then even looking ahead with
• 3:14:09
  [UNKNOWN]: To what we haven't coming up judging based on where we are now.
• 3:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We're never playing the Eagles There a team that is not playing their best football right now.
• 3:14:18
  [UNKNOWN]: They're also a band-up.
• 3:14:20
  [UNKNOWN]: No sick one.
• 3:14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: No real rushing attack London trip is it who's going to London?
• 3:14:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it the Panthers?
• 3:14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Going to London you put London trip here?
• 3:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: though the Eagles are close to that game also this is very well think about this we're on a buy but they're also on a long road trip
• 3:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, like they have, and here to add to that, uh, Zach Berman at Zach Berman says this, the Eagles will leave for London on Friday.
• 3:15:00
  [UNKNOWN]: They're taking a full practice week in Philly.
• 3:15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Nick Serianna said the eagle studied it and he chose this for the team asked how jet lag Serianna said he doesn't want to get into specifics, but they felt like this is the best thing for our team taking everything into account jet lag included.
• 3:15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I don't want to place this in the same category of the Rams going to Australia.
• 3:15:28
  [UNKNOWN]: and then flying the same day over.
• 3:15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't think that you should immediately ship on Syria on the Eagles for what this decision is.
• 3:15:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's an eight hour flight versus like a 20 hour flight way different scenario.
• 3:15:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But the transition is I think this we're coming off a
• 3:15:54
  [UNKNOWN]: less than they're like ultimately this makes it a short week for them.
• 3:15:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The Eagles have been trash.
• 3:16:03
  [UNKNOWN]: They did they didn't have one I think they were over 12 on third down or something like that in this game.
• 3:16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They're fate like they are terrible in the second half.
• 3:16:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is
• 3:16:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The Eagles, I don't want to overlook any opponent, but they are dealing with a ton of issues.
• 3:16:26
  [UNKNOWN]: They are descending, we are ascending.
• 3:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: At least our offense is, I think the conditions are colliding in a better situation for the Panthers than they are for the Eagles.
• 3:16:48
  [UNKNOWN]: that a lot of people thought they were going to be.
• 3:16:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, having to go and play overseas, dude, this is perfect for us.
• 3:16:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They're on a short week.
• 3:16:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This is an opportunity for the Carolina Panthers to continue to get right, continue to grow.
• 3:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I'm pumped for what this means for us and do this even on Sunday, you know, getting to have the whole day of being able to watch NFL Red Zone and just relax, you know, drink some coffee, then have a beer later.
• 3:17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a good day, man.
• 3:17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a good day.
• 3:17:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm getting ready to to enjoy my Sunday.
• 3:17:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, I don't think that anything is trending better for the equals and this situation.
• 3:17:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Then it is for the Panthers.
• 3:17:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is when we see things shake out and I go, oh, I'd like to buy later.
• 3:17:46
  [UNKNOWN]: This buy is coming right.
• 3:17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if we were going to we might need a second buy.
• 3:17:52
  [UNKNOWN]: See, okay, later.
• 3:17:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But man, we need this week right now.
• 3:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's, again, I was saying at the very beginning, I mean, it's rare that we ever are happy that we're not playing football.
• 3:18:05
  [UNKNOWN]: This was like, you know, we can, you know, in a fellow, but here we are, we're, we're ecstatic about the idea of not having to play football.
• 3:18:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And, and it's, yeah, it stems a lot more from just making sure we're healthy, given ourselves an opportunity to actually do some, you know, get some of these important people back on to our squad.
• 3:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right, what's next?
• 3:18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Because we got a couple things that knock out still.
• 3:18:34
  [UNKNOWN]: roster move.
• 3:18:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh God none of these matter because nobody knows any of it and these people.
• 3:18:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you by that matter.
• 3:18:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, let's just go right to the end, okay?
• 3:18:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So we look we made some moves.
• 3:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, there were these some players.
• 3:18:51
  [UNKNOWN]: They're wave trade tires.
• 3:18:53
  [UNKNOWN]: He was kind of a fan frame.
• 3:18:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Never heard of them.
• 3:18:57
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing that people need to know and read about.
• 3:19:01
  [UNKNOWN]: his parents, who said coach name can now said Monday that they anticipated running back Trevor into the end, right tackle Taylor Molden and defensive tackle Tursal Martin to be back from injured reserve shortly after the by week.
• 3:19:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So boys, this is the conversation that we're going to have to.
• 3:19:23
  [UNKNOWN]: If Taylor Molden comes back,
• 3:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you rearrange this whole line?
• 3:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Because there's no way you don't give Taylor his position back.
• 3:19:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He's earned it.
• 3:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And even though, you know, I do think at times when Rola's played admirably and right tackle, I think you need to put him back at left.
• 3:19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's where he's ultimately going to be for the rest of his career.
• 3:19:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And I really, really, really want to see tear the button back in this offensive lineup.
• 3:19:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And do even Trevor, you see him.
• 3:20:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like we're one injury at the runabout position away from disaster.
• 3:20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of happen to see Trevor coming back as well.
• 3:20:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Seek at I think this is easy.
• 3:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Motten obviously, like comes back, and it's a win for everybody, right?
• 3:20:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a win for Monroe Freeland, who was in this temporary concussion protocol,
• 3:20:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how much they're saving injuries in this struggle or whatever it is.
• 3:20:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think anything this would hurt my thoughts about Monroe Freeland.
• 3:20:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It would protect him and let him develop.
• 3:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a no-brainer that Moton would come in at Wright Tackle.
• 3:20:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:20:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, I don't know if Moton is all the sudden going to be the answer, right?
• 3:21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, with age and coming off of injury or I think I think that's the way it would go.
• 3:21:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:21:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's any other questions about moving other parts either.
• 3:21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: If we felt like this offensive line had any sense of stability, we might have a different opinion about it.
• 3:21:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But we don't fill that way, right?
• 3:21:25
  [UNKNOWN]: We feel pretty confident that this offensive line is one of the worst in the NFL currently, the way that it's set up at this point, just based on the number of pressures that we're letting get through that line.
• 3:21:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So,
• 3:21:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't do.
• 3:21:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that it would be unfortunate for for freeling to, you know, lose a spot and not get the ability to, you know, develop absolutely, but I also think that a Vicki's not going to be back for a while.
• 3:21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to entertain the idea of putting them over their next to Walker for not necessarily for everything, but, you know, alternate those guys let them get an opportunity between one and each other, you know.
• 3:22:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, definitely.
• 3:22:04
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• 3:22:09
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• 3:22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Knock out two quick segments left to go.
• 3:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do a little buyer cell hit or like quick hitter.
• 3:22:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And then we still have the longest running Panthers podcast segment that ice up segment.
• 3:22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Clip it, CK, I mean, not CK, Cody.
• 3:22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you ready?
• 3:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you fire?
• 3:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you ready for the intro?
• 3:22:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it, man.
• 3:22:47
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:22:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Clip it, buyer cell, let's go.
• 3:22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so each week we're going to if you aren't a part of the conversation last week, we're going to do a segment called buyer cell where Cody and Tony get at 30 seconds each to give their opinion on whether they're buying or selling based on the statement that I read and give a little description of why they're choosing what they're choosing.
• 3:23:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, Bryce Young is a top 10 NFL quarterback.
• 3:23:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Bye.
• 3:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm by.
• 3:23:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Where everything over his game this season.
• 3:23:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Can't not.
• 3:23:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, by I buy and is this as currently Bryce Young is a top 10 quarterback.
• 3:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: He's playing like the top 10 quarterback is he a top 10 quarterback over all for the longevity of his career still to be seen, but right now he's playing like a top five quarterback, a top one quarterback in a sense.
• 3:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm buying CK, but I will say this is that we have to think about it as are we buying him as a transcendent quarterback or we buying him as a current top 10 quarterback.
• 3:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Easy current and I believe he could be a transcendent top 10 quarterback.
• 3:24:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Anything to add to that, Cody?
• 3:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't do if he's on the same pace and they continue to stay on it, he might be top five bro for you.
• 3:24:39
  [UNKNOWN]: The dude is balling out of the control and never imagine that Bryce could play as good as he has been.
• 3:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm loving him in.
• 3:24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Best four games in Panther's history.
• 3:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep, easy.
• 3:24:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Which is crazy to think about, by the way.
• 3:24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: So next question.
• 3:25:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce, young and T-Mac will be considered a top five cuby-wide receiver duo in football by a season's end.
• 3:25:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, this is a Canada news.
• 3:25:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like there's no reason to not give them that, that, that, that, well, hold on.
• 3:25:17
  [UNKNOWN]: There is reason before we, you get to keep in mind, we have another mouth to feed in Jalen Coker when he comes back.
• 3:25:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:25:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm still going to say yes.
• 3:25:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this game was so needed between Bryce and T. Mack and shows us what they're capable of in this offense.
• 3:25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say yes.
• 3:25:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Bye.
• 3:25:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to, I mean, my intuition after that week is to just say bond.
• 3:25:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to sell though right now for the sake of the discussion because I don't want to be on a user's high, but so much.
• 3:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That was a hundred and ninety four yards, two touchdowns.
• 3:26:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was, I thought we were going to have that in week one, week two, week three.
• 3:26:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, right now, I am going to believe in what Cody said in the hope for it, but I'm going to say so because I need to, I need that to happen week after week after week and maybe not those numbers, I mean, I'm obviously not those numbers, but that connection and
• 3:26:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so right now I have to say so.
• 3:26:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to.
• 3:26:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm kind of in my heart is with Cody.
• 3:26:50
  [UNKNOWN]: My head is for this segment.
• 3:26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 3:26:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let me do two more here.
• 3:27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers win at least two of their next three after the buy.
• 3:27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: That's going to be Adfilly versus Tampa and at Green Bay.
• 3:27:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They're post by stretch.
• 3:27:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously starts on October 18th and Philadelphia.
• 3:27:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Bob, Bob, Bob, I think the circumstances are facing or I know that Panthers are facing injury.
• 3:27:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I understand that their offensive line has been in shambles that they have had injury at every potential place.
• 3:27:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But the Panthers are ascending.
• 3:27:39
  [UNKNOWN]: The Philadelphia Eagles are descending.
• 3:27:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They have that London trip were coming off a buy.
• 3:27:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that is prime for the Carolina Panthers to capitalize on some momentum after the Lions game.
• 3:27:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Additionally, the bucks, if Baker and his thumb,
• 3:28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And look, Baker is only Baker, by the way.
• 3:28:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not like he is a guy that is going to destroy you, but he is good.
• 3:28:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, if you've got the telling again, it goes, the Eagles, Tampa and the Green Bay.
• 3:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And Green Bay, there's a potential.
• 3:28:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say this, Panthers go two in one with an opportunity of going three and three.
• 3:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So, Tony, I mean, no, should I say three and three and three and three and three and three and three and three and three and three because you repeat the question again is are we winning these three?
• 3:28:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I said the Panthers win at least two of their next three after the buy.
• 3:28:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, dude.
• 3:28:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm buying man.
• 3:28:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Tampa Bay and Green Bay, both of the Bayes are not looking too high right now and there's a real chance that we could bring all three of those games, but again, you know, I know that we're feeling really good about this team.
• 3:29:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And we should be, we should justify how we feel good about this team and what they're doing and how Bryce looks.
• 3:29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I would also like to reiterate that we are still trying to get this monkey off of our back of not being able to win back to back games.
• 3:29:20
  [UNKNOWN]: We have to put together another performance like we did against the digital lines and we have to do it against the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 3:29:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Take a two and three two and one expected two and one expected, but three of us really see a fantastic three and no fantastic one and two unacceptable.
• 3:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: one-in-two unacceptable and you start to question things again.
• 3:29:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I will say, isn't this so odd to be in this scenario where we were looking at this schedule saying this was a murderous row of, of, yes, that this was the hard part.
• 3:30:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This was the hard part now we're looking at this, the weakness of the, of, at least partially the weakness because we have, we have quite a few that are real contenders that we have to be facing in this season, but both the Eagles, the Eagles looking shambles and Green Bay, I don't know what to think about them entirely yet, but not great.
• 3:30:26
  [UNKNOWN]: not great not great uh next one and this is the last one and this is really a bi-week uh focused one even though it's not necessarily the time right now uh but the panther should be buyers at the trade deadline rather than standing pat bi-or-cell
• 3:30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I feel like this is the Panthers.
• 3:30:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what that means.
• 3:30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the capital means, what the player is.
• 3:30:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But right now, I feel like the Panthers are contending.
• 3:31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only I know they're contending.
• 3:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: They're leading the division.
• 3:31:08
  [UNKNOWN]: they have a moment to accelerate and capitalize and catch momentum, they cannot let these injuries
• 3:31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, hamstring, um, Bryce Young, I think about this is that if you let your corner back situation hamstring, what could potentially be the ascendancy of your future quarterback and you did a disservice, not only to the season, but to your organization, I think the
• 3:31:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But if they stand pat and just be like, oh, we got to try and weather this storm and hope that Bryce and this offensive line that's doing nothing can make it through.
• 3:32:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This team, every team that is good or that becomes great does something to keep that momentum going.
• 3:32:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think you have to be a buyer, I don't know what degree it is.
• 3:32:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:32:18
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I completely agree.
• 3:32:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that right now we have a lot of promise with our offense.
• 3:32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And so if that means we shore up the offensive line, great.
• 3:32:29
  [UNKNOWN]: If that, but I think with assistance that we have coming off of IR here soon, I don't know that you need to put a heavy focus on that, maybe out center is the only option.
• 3:32:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But specifically in that secondary, we need
• 3:32:47
  [UNKNOWN]: dreadfully underman there on the cutie by the.
• 3:32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm I'm.
• 3:32:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to be trying to trade for Trevor Lawrence, probably.
• 3:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: No, dude.
• 3:33:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I really think that we have to add to our corner room.
• 3:33:03
  [UNKNOWN]: We talked about it in Caleb Evans earlier.
• 3:33:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, shout out to buddy for an admirable attempt, but I think we're going to need more.
• 3:33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to continue to face some good vertical attacks.
• 3:33:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that we have to be buyers.
• 3:33:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we're going to go out and get someone to bring on this team, be that trade or sign someone that's available to be signed.
• 3:33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm buying.
• 3:33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to it.
• 3:33:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, we got one.
• 3:33:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't know.
• 3:33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to tell you guys just because I think it's important because we thought we were heading into a murderous row.
• 3:33:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And now all of a sudden these names on this list don't feel so fear some to me of the player, of the games we have coming up, but the Eagles, Bucks, Packers.
• 3:33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Broncos, beatable Saints, beatable Ravens have been very vulnerable.
• 3:33:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The bucks again, the Vikings don't have an offense.
• 3:33:54
  [UNKNOWN]: So there's a chance we have a chance, you know, an opportunity against them.
• 3:33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: The Saints again, the bingles, people have them rated really high.
• 3:34:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I've been a bit.
• 3:34:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think our murderers wrote has shifted to to the back when I would say this is that say it again real quick yeah Broncos after the buck yeah I think that's where it starts but that thing that's the tough part of the schedule Broncos then we go back to the games
• 3:34:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Ravens those Ravens that that little stretch I think is becoming more difficult than which would be no we thought that that was going to be way worse.
• 3:34:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think right now they have shown more weakness than we used to spend them having right now.
• 3:34:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean they have no offense to speak of at the Vikings I'd rather play the I'd rather play the equals than I would play the Broncos
• 3:34:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you look at the field the film and watch that straight up, and I've watched the equals they fucking stink No, I've watched why you agree, but the bro Broncos also when you look at the film they look not good at all Yeah, they're all penses also very very vulnerable But still up and down, but I don't I don't I would rather play
• 3:35:17
  [UNKNOWN]: the Eagles and I would play the Broncos, but when we were when we were picking these games, I think many of us had to else on a lot of these games.
• 3:35:25
  [UNKNOWN]: We were thinking the Broncos are probably going to be in, uh, we thought the Ravens are probably going to be in, uh, we thought the Vikings was a toss-up.
• 3:35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We thought the Bengals were probably going to be in L. We didn't know what to expect from the Steelers.
• 3:35:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The Seahawks we felt like was probably going to be in L. But now every one of those, I'm not as worried as I was before the season started.
• 3:35:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd rather play the Steelers than I would the bangles are you saying from the beginning of the season you feel more afraid of these teams and you did it to the beginning of the season.
• 3:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to say I will feel more afraid I would say this is I think this shift to where the lines and the Eagles represented a tough challenge.
• 3:36:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Eagles and I don't want to place the court before the horse.
• 3:36:13
  [UNKNOWN]: right as you got to go out there and you got to win that game you got to beat them.
• 3:36:18
  [UNKNOWN]: but the Eagles are more of the name right now than they are the team.
• 3:36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Steelers, trash.
• 3:36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:36:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Bangles, you have to worry about offensively.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't ever count the Ravens' out.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think the tough road to Ho is shifted.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 3:36:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's shifted a little bit.
• 3:36:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 3:36:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Remember, man, everything in the first six weeks is a morage.
• 3:36:56
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a morage, okay?
• 3:36:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Eventually the good teams are going to pull away.
• 3:37:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're going to see who is really legit.
• 3:37:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe there's a team.
• 3:37:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a bunch of two and two teams right now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe there's one of these teams that's just getting ready to pull away and be a foreign
• 3:37:19
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for all the colors, all the commenters, final segment, time to ice some folds up, Cody.
• 3:37:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Pull up those ice drops as we tell someone to ice up, toughen up, to get it together.
• 3:37:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 3:38:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We stick, look, we're football fan podcast fan football podcast, but this is our moment where we say it's our podcast and we do every the hell we want.
• 3:38:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And we can talk about whatever we want.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We will ice you up, friends, family, ourselves, tell someone to ice up, toughen up to get it together.
• 3:38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: My ice up pit guys goes to, I don't, you know, I don't even know how to interject this, but the existential crisis that brings AI to our
• 3:38:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I hung out with C.K.
• 3:38:42
  [UNKNOWN]: and he's like, oh, there's not going to be any jobs.
• 3:38:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to have, oh, you had a pay for these people, yeah, universal income.
• 3:38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I think about all these opportunities.
• 3:38:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I as a historian, think about how technology has democratized and accelerated things.
• 3:39:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And while, yes, certain people make way more money than everybody else.
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  [UNKNOWN]: it does filter down.
• 3:39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: My kind of ice up goes to this and I don't know anything.
• 3:39:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you're listening to this segment and thinking I'm trying to tell you what to think go away.
• 3:39:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think there may be a movement by the AI
• 3:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: official, the big hedge guys, the clawed guys, the, the anthropic, you could probably name their name sick gay, right, like the guy that runs chat, GBT.
• 3:39:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think there may be something in their interest, right now, into promoting a June's day model.
• 3:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So my ice up goes to them for I think that we need to be careful to, I don't know how to say this, it's like how to ice it up.
• 3:40:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Ultimately, as these guys have asked for a gazillion dollars of loans from the world, yeah.
• 3:40:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And they have to promise to you that their technology will change everything.
• 3:40:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think part of their dreams day model, no jobs, this is doing this.
• 3:40:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that is part
• 3:40:43
  [UNKNOWN]: to say that's why you should invest in us.
• 3:40:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is like, oh, you're not going to have a job.
• 3:40:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't do anything.
• 3:40:53
  [UNKNOWN]: This is we're going to have to have universal income.
• 3:40:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Now we need, why are the people who are pushing for AI, AI, AI now asking for guardrails?
• 3:41:05
  [UNKNOWN]: on this.
• 3:41:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is part money grab, part saying this is that we have to show our worth, our development and why we're so important and your life is going to be doomed so invest in us.
• 3:41:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this, there is a chance that the world would end in 500 years, but I think we will survive, and I think somehow we will thrive.
• 3:41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I am icing those guys up because I think they're market manipulators.
• 3:41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just accepting of our
• 3:41:53
  [UNKNOWN]: AI rulers like at this point I've used it so much now and it is for so many different yeah but it's benefiting you maybe it's a lot of friends are using it to not just like that so see if you want to go um... did we ever find out that uh... uh... or no will lead uh...
• 3:42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So I never found any information saying that it wasn't you want to pull that back up
• 3:42:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 3:42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm worried that it's fake and that's because go a. I hear from it.
• 3:42:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm worried.
• 3:42:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So essentially the that there's a photo of willy with this phone.
• 3:42:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, kind of posing and he put it on.
• 3:42:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's got his phone in his hand and he's got the phone tilted towards the camera.
• 3:42:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so convenient, isn't it?
• 3:42:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's very convenient, but it does, it's got a text strand, our string, whatever you want to call it, where there's a bunch of people in there asking, who's 29, get that dude off the team or something like that.
• 3:43:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like some real, just talking horrible about it, at Caleb Evans.
• 3:43:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know who I'm nice enough here because I mean if that is legit picture and that was real I almost I'm like will he is like he's got no shame about himself or he has a massive apology to make
• 3:43:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, boy, he was just in a group chat and just access that my boys are dead in a picture.
• 3:43:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my boys are dead.
• 3:43:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But he does an apology and she can't do think you bring to fact is like we can't trust in a picture.
• 3:43:43
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I mean, can you imagine, maybe this, you know what I'm icing up reasonable doubt.
• 3:43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you tell me that in any court case on the planet that you can't get the jury to say,
• 3:44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess there is reasonable doubt because it could be AI in today's world that he's this isn't a real, you know, photo or this isn't a real text message that he sent or, you know, what have you.
• 3:44:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think reasonable doubt becomes a lot more easy to accomplish when AI is more and more prominent.
• 3:44:25
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:44:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So the reason I'm highlighting this comment is because if you know who Megan Rappano is, she's absolutely insufferable.
• 3:44:38
  [UNKNOWN]: She won with the Women's Soccer team in the World Cup, and now she feels like she's some...
• 3:44:46
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, a spokesperson on all things right in the world.
• 3:44:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And Jason Kelsey, where he's been doing broadcasting.
• 3:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And he was on the broadcast and he called the Commanders the Red Scales.
• 3:44:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So Megan Rappano went online and went off on this fucking diet job.
• 3:45:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, hey, my bitch, could you maybe shut up about it?
• 3:45:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's honestly, it was just a mistake.
• 3:45:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And number one, there are literally a contingent.
• 3:45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're the most offended by this.
• 3:45:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anybody.
• 3:45:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not even Native American.
• 3:45:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And by the way, there are Native Americans that want to see the logo restored.
• 3:45:31
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, come on, do you know why hate people who've heard through the signal, who just takes stance is publicly online, so they can show you what good fucking people they are.
• 3:45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They all suck.
• 3:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I suck.
• 3:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I suck Megan Rappinnell.
• 3:45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And your bangs, your spiky bangs.
• 3:45:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and your ugly ash fucking colored purple hair and shit.
• 3:45:52
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• 3:46:05
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• 3:46:14
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