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Anthony Muñoz on Overcoming Injuries, Becoming One of Best Players of All-Time, and Supporting Cincinnati’s Youth · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Peanut Tooman and this is the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me as always
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  Speaker 1: as my trusty co host, Roman the Elder Harper.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate that, thanks, Peanut, even though you're older than me.
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  Speaker 2: I want to jump right into our guests. I mean
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  Speaker 2: we've already been talking.
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  Speaker 1: Introduced who he is, First Ballot Hall of Famer, NFL
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  Speaker 1: Top one hundred players, Walter Payton, Man of the Year
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  Speaker 1: Award winner. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Anthony Munos to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Want to thanks having me. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say this, like, I know who you are.
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  Speaker 1: I played my thirteen years. I've seen you Super Bowls
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  Speaker 1: and all the events that the league does, and having
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  Speaker 1: done the research on you, I didn't know how dominant
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  Speaker 1: you were. I don't pay attention to the lineman as
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  Speaker 1: much per se because we I'm a dB, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, receivers maybe uh maybe tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: But like you was, you were a dog.
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  Speaker 1: Like you were you were, you were great.
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  Speaker 3: You were.
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  Speaker 4: He told me this this morning.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, with all due respect, I said, dude,
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  Speaker 2: he's considered the best tackle.
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  Speaker 4: Of all I know. I just didn't just paid attention. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that our follows your son when he was
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  Speaker 2: at college on meers.
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  Speaker 3: Thank.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, And I mean it's still very humbling.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm an old guy. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I got I got a son your age, I got
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  Speaker 5: grandkids are in high school, and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: still pinch myself. I live in Cincinnati, so it's a
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  Speaker 5: three hour drive to Canton. Uh, and I've been in
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  Speaker 5: twenty seven years, and I still pinch myself every time.
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  Speaker 3: I drive up.
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  Speaker 5: I have to watch it because I daydream a little
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  Speaker 5: bit while I'm driving, you know, about coming up and
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  Speaker 5: being with all the guys, and uh, thinking about the
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  Speaker 5: guys I've I've gotten to know over the years that
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  Speaker 5: are no longer with us when I got in. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's just one of those things where my wife and
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  Speaker 5: I we got married my sophomore in college, where we
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  Speaker 5: knew each other when I was in high school in
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  Speaker 5: our hometown, and you know, we both just kind of say, man,
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  Speaker 5: this is this is unbelievable that to be able to
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  Speaker 5: come up here.
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  Speaker 3: So I played thirteen years in the league.
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  Speaker 5: After I retired, we moved we moved into built a
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  Speaker 5: new house, and that was thirty two years ago. And
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  Speaker 5: I found my freshman playbook from USC that was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: seventeen years after I left USC. I found this freshman
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  Speaker 5: my freshman playbook, and I said, I'm going to read
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  Speaker 5: through it to see what kind of plays we ran. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I knew we ran student body right, student body left,
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  Speaker 5: student body right.
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  Speaker 4: Call it student body back then.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, we called it twenty eight. But everybody that
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  Speaker 3: was the name, name, that was the name.
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  Speaker 5: But I opened it up in the first page, just
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  Speaker 5: written in block letters, just one word on that first
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  Speaker 5: page said dominate. Opened the next page and said, we
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  Speaker 5: will dominate our opponent the first play of the game,
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  Speaker 5: and they will give up by the end of the third,
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  Speaker 5: early fourth quarter. So that's how I was trained in college.
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  Speaker 5: And the pros had the same line coach for thirteen years.
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  Speaker 5: We had shirts at camp that said finished. You know,
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  Speaker 5: play goes from the snap to the whistle, absolutely, And
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  Speaker 5: I understand some defensive line don't like to go to
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  Speaker 5: the end. And we were like, let's see how many
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  Speaker 5: times we can make those d line have to get
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  Speaker 5: off the ground. But that was our whole philosophy, not
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  Speaker 5: that it's going to happen every play, but that was
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  Speaker 5: our attitude. And I talk about you know, I still
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  Speaker 5: coach sometimes and talk about old line play and it's
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  Speaker 5: all about one word attitude. If you have the attitude
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  Speaker 5: attitude to dominate, you're gonna get out there and that's
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  Speaker 5: going to be your primary goal. And that's why I
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  Speaker 5: was taught and not only in football, but I have
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  Speaker 5: two older brothers. They taught me to do that in life.
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  Speaker 5: Baseball is my first love. I started playing baseball at
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  Speaker 5: seven years old and I was going to be a
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  Speaker 5: Major League baseball player. And then my brothers took me
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  Speaker 5: under their winging man and it was like I competed
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  Speaker 5: with them two years older, eight years older. And that's
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  Speaker 5: what they taught me. They said, don't you don't have
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  Speaker 5: to talk. Don't talk about your game. If your game
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  Speaker 5: is good enough, people will.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: So that's a little that I know. I was learning
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  Speaker 5: humility at the age of seven. Yeah, but that was
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  Speaker 5: my approach and that's everything I do. I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 5: what I do, my body will work speak for itself.
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  Speaker 5: So I appreciate you guys saying them.
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  Speaker 2: I want to just applaud you because you mentioned all
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  Speaker 2: these things. And I've been doing a lot of reading
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  Speaker 2: this off season for myself for growth purposes. And you
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  Speaker 2: truly learned that you are a product of your whole environment.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just the college you choose. It's usually your upbringing,
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  Speaker 2: you your birth order, you being the youngest of two
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  Speaker 2: older brothers, trying to keep up, Like, all these things
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  Speaker 2: kind of make you who you are at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day. The reason why you want to dominate, oh,
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  Speaker 2: is college what I learned? And you were on the
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  Speaker 2: national championship baseball team at Southern Cal Like because you
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  Speaker 2: maybe tell us some stats we couldn't find them, give
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  Speaker 2: us a breakdown. I saw you with a bat. You're
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  Speaker 2: on the website. I mean, you look like a huge
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  Speaker 2: guy in the batter's box. But this is great. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he kind of tell us about that story because you
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  Speaker 2: have some really good players and teammates on that team
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: So I always wanted to play baseball, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: at six six, three hundred a senior in high school,
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  Speaker 5: I tell people, you know, football is going to be
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  Speaker 5: my meal plan, and that was going to be my
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  Speaker 5: way out of Ontario, California. But I wanted to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that I could continue to play baseball in college
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  Speaker 5: because I loved it. I was a third basement pitcher
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  Speaker 5: at two seventy five and USC. It wasn't only a
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  Speaker 5: recruiting pitch. They had done that with a lot of
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  Speaker 5: guys prior to me going there, so I mean pretty
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  Speaker 5: much a done deal once USC came after me. But
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  Speaker 5: the crazy thing about it is that in four years
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  Speaker 5: at USC had three knee operations freshman year, junior year,
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  Speaker 5: senior year. The only healthy year I played in football
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  Speaker 5: was my sophomore year, and that was the year I
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  Speaker 5: played baseball because I was rehabbing the other three years.
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  Speaker 5: So I went out and I was my sophomore year
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  Speaker 5: in school, but I was a freshman in baseball, so
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  Speaker 5: they looked at me as a relief pitcher, so I
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  Speaker 5: get out there. When I went home my fresh after
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  Speaker 5: my freshmanyear, I played little summer baseball just to keep
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  Speaker 5: throwing the ball. So I went in there and on
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  Speaker 5: the side, I was getting my arm in shape and
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  Speaker 5: they were letting me play a little first base. Little
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  Speaker 5: DH played a couple that was back there at JV team,
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  Speaker 5: so I played two to three games on the JV team.
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  Speaker 3: Then they moved me up to the varsity.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I was hitting the ball pretty well,
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  Speaker 5: but once my arm got into shape, I was in
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  Speaker 5: the pen.
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  Speaker 3: No more hitting.
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  Speaker 5: I was a fungo hitter, you know, hitting the outfielders,
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  Speaker 5: which was fine. So we were loaded. I mean, we
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  Speaker 5: won the World Series. We you know, we went to
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  Speaker 5: Omahan and just swept everything. The entire team got drafted,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm thinking there was two of us, two freshmen
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  Speaker 5: on the pitching staff. Man, I'm gonna get a lot
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  Speaker 5: of time next year. Then I get hurt again. But
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  Speaker 5: so stats, you know, it was the only year I played,
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  Speaker 5: so I had one win. We're in Texas during Easter.
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  Speaker 5: Starting pitcher takes the line driving the arm, so I
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  Speaker 5: warm up, I pitch, I get the win. So I
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  Speaker 5: was want to know in college, uh, And I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know my stats either. I know that that was the
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  Speaker 5: first time that I threw a fastball and it hit
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  Speaker 5: the parking lot over the fence faster and it got
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  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I guess I'm in the big times.
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  Speaker 5: But I think I threw like eleven or twelve innings
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  Speaker 5: and had like thirteen strikeouts. But the thing is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I was undefeated, so I was wanting to know. But
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  Speaker 5: and like I said, the team was loaded. I still
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  Speaker 5: have contact with a lot of those teammates. I mean
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  Speaker 5: there was number one picks for the Giants. There was
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  Speaker 5: you know, you Chill the outfielders for the Astros, and
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  Speaker 5: all star catcher for the Twins, and you know, so
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  Speaker 5: there was a lot of great guys. In fact, our
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  Speaker 5: stud pitcher was a left hander. He played two years
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  Speaker 5: at SC than he was number one pick for the
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  Speaker 5: Giants twenty six and two at SC's two years.
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  Speaker 4: Oh now, you're so close to it.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me the biggest difference from like, because I know
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  Speaker 2: we all have our own little things that we'd like.
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  Speaker 4: To do before the games. We talked to John Superstitions.
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  Speaker 4: The Superstittion got you between baseball and football. I know
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  Speaker 4: baseball has.
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  Speaker 3: More, right Yeah, oh yeah, that's tell me the.
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  Speaker 2: Biggest difference in the locker rooms going from football to
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  Speaker 2: baseball locker rooms because it's got to be night day.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, baseball locker room is so much
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  Speaker 5: more about stats. I mean, the guys are like fixated
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  Speaker 5: about stats. They're all about stats. You know, and it's
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoyed that. I still have some great friends,
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  Speaker 5: but football, to me is more. I think it's you
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  Speaker 5: get more of a true brotherhood. I mean I got
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  Speaker 5: some great friends from baseball, don't get me wrong, and
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  Speaker 5: our locker room was great.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's because the physical aspect of the game and
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  Speaker 5: the camps we go through. Uh, you know baseball, I
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  Speaker 5: mean you get a good workout and it's a few
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  Speaker 5: sprints after you throw a few you know. It's just yeah,
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  Speaker 5: maybe that's the difference because it is such a physical
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  Speaker 5: sport and you go through so much more in camp
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  Speaker 5: than you do in baseball. But I noticed that guys
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  Speaker 5: are constantly looking okay, it's my batt and ever maybe
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  Speaker 5: that's I don't know, maybe that's the dB wide receiver thing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If we don't do that, I say that's probably the
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  Speaker 1: biggest difference I noticed. Do you think baseball helped you
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  Speaker 1: with football?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely? I think all three sports.
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  Speaker 5: I played football, basketball, and baseball in high school and
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  Speaker 5: as a big kid. Think about it, I was a
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  Speaker 5: third basement at two hundred and seventy five pounds. Now
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  Speaker 5: I had I had to hit a ball twice as
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  Speaker 5: far as my teammates to get around the bases. I
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  Speaker 5: mean not until my senior year freshman did my speech start.
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  Speaker 5: But you could not bun on me at two seventy five.
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  Speaker 5: I could move forward later that you couldn't get the
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  Speaker 5: line on me. I was blessed with being able to
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  Speaker 5: sit down, yeah, and move. Think about that, sitting down
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  Speaker 5: and moving at two seventy I was garden guys that
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  Speaker 5: are one to seventy in basketball. If I had to
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  Speaker 5: move my feet right football, what do you do as
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  Speaker 5: an old lineman?
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  Speaker 3: You sit down and you gotta move.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta move, you gotta have you out in space
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  Speaker 5: left tackle you got so Yeah. I think baseball really
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  Speaker 5: helped me out, And I think that's why I'm such
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  Speaker 5: a big and I know it's tough for now. I'm
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  Speaker 5: so big on multiple sports guys, because you're working different muscles.
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  Speaker 5: You know my age. I can still sit down in
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  Speaker 5: that stin. I can't get up right away, but I
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  Speaker 5: can still sit down like I needed to playing third, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and sit down like what I needed to when I
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  Speaker 5: was pass blocking.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you wear number seventy eight? You were number
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  Speaker 2: seventy seven in college? Why did you wear number seventy eight?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I got to Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have enough money to buy seventy seven from
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  Speaker 5: the veteran offensive lineman reason. You know, you hear about that.
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  Speaker 5: Guys get to another team and say I'll offer you
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  Speaker 5: this much for that number. So seventy eight was available,
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  Speaker 5: which is pretty cool because seventy eight. There's so much
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  Speaker 5: significance in that number in that year. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: I look back to college. I was a sophomore, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy eight, sophomore, you know, and then going
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  Speaker 5: into my junior year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that was a year.
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  Speaker 5: We got married in nineteen seventy eight, so we've been
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  Speaker 5: married seventy year. Eight is a year, h I started
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  Speaker 5: my spiritual journey, you know, That's when I trusted Jesus.
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  Speaker 5: And it's been forty seven years, so that and you know,
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  Speaker 5: so it was a lot of significance. And I'm thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: that's pretty cool number seventy eight. And of course I
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  Speaker 5: was the one healthy year I played and I got
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  Speaker 5: to throw this south there. I'm a big sec guy.
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  Speaker 5: But on you you mentioned best road trip, and I
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  Speaker 5: thought we would talk about I don't know if you
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  Speaker 5: just meant overall or football. And I have to share
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  Speaker 5: this with it was my junior year nineteen seventy eight,
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  Speaker 5: week two best road trip we had. We ran student
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  Speaker 5: body right, student body left all day long, twenty four
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  Speaker 5: and we beat Alabama in Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry the role with it that changed, that changed.
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  Speaker 4: That was a big thing for us.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 5: You guys were loaded in and then got loaded reloaded
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  Speaker 5: again for many years.
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  Speaker 4: But well, how fun was it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean because Alabama was not used to having teams
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  Speaker 2: on the West coast come into briand.
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  Speaker 5: It was huge because they came to Since or to
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  Speaker 5: La my sophomore year, you know, so that started. So
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  Speaker 5: twenty one to twenty we go make it and we
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  Speaker 5: go for two. Of course, you know, we want to win.
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  Speaker 5: So we didn't make it so because there was no overtime,
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  Speaker 5: no overtime, so we lose twenty one twenty. Then we
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  Speaker 5: go to Alabama and that was my sophomore year. I
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  Speaker 5: tell people had a terrible year or nine to three.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't go to Rose Bowl. So now we go
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  Speaker 5: into you know Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: My junior year, who was the head coach State in.
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  Speaker 3: John Robinson, John Robinson, Okay, and then we go in
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, Dwight Stevenson and Marty Lyons, Barry Krause, I mean Tony,
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  Speaker 5: I mean loaded, We had Marcus at fullback, Charles White,
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  Speaker 5: we had Ronnie, Dennis Smith, Joey Brown.
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  Speaker 3: So both teams were just like yeah, And so we go.
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  Speaker 5: Down there and I'll never forget it, and I was
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  Speaker 5: a week side tackle, so on student body, right, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, we flip flopped out me and the back.
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  Speaker 5: Guard pulled and we pulled and it was the first
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  Speaker 5: time I'd ever been exposed to humidity.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 5: But we ran that all day long and so that
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  Speaker 5: was that was really pretty cool. I mean Bear Bryant
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  Speaker 5: was still there, and I mean that was huge to
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  Speaker 5: go into Alabama. So we split one on one and
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  Speaker 5: uh but yeah, earlier I mentioned the SEC we went
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  Speaker 5: to L s U.
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  Speaker 3: That that uh that next year we went to L.
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  Speaker 3: S U.
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  Speaker 5: Baton Rouge, and I mean what an atmosphere there. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean I had I had a blast, even though
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  Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time rehabbiting college. I mean
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  Speaker 5: some of the guys I played with are amazing. I
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  Speaker 5: see four of them here in the Pro Football Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame from my senior year team.
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  Speaker 4: That's wild. Ain't anything wild?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? We had Ronnie A.
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  Speaker 5: Lott, we had Marcus, Bruce Matthews and myself and off
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  Speaker 5: that last team we had I think fifteen first round
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  Speaker 5: picks and I mean we were It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of fun. Think about it.
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  Speaker 5: Marcus Allen, our full back at about two hundred and
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  Speaker 5: ten pounds maybe dripping wet.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know, like, is it is it because
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  Speaker 2: you think recruiting has changed so much because you had
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  Speaker 2: a son and go through the Cole college experience, he
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  Speaker 2: was highly recruited. You have grandkids now that are about
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  Speaker 2: to get going through this stuff, right, I'm sure, And
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  Speaker 2: so I know, like for you to have four Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Famers on one team and any college now would
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  Speaker 2: be in my mind, like I just don't see it,
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  Speaker 2: Like talent is so much more spread out and so
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  Speaker 2: back then, like was it just sc like that's you know.
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  Speaker 5: While you had, oh, you had Ohio State, Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 5: you had a handful. I think the difference now is
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  Speaker 5: I look at my sophomore year when we didn't go.
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  Speaker 3: To the Roseball.
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  Speaker 5: We went to the Blue Bonnet Bone and played A
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  Speaker 5: and M. Charles White was our starting tail back. He
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  Speaker 5: had about one hundred and eighty yards that game. But
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  Speaker 5: we had two backup running backs. One was probably the
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  Speaker 5: fastest guy on the team, but he was hurt. One
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  Speaker 5: of the guys had one hundred and fifty yards who
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  Speaker 5: had been hurt but fast. See what happens now, if
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  Speaker 5: you don't start, you're not there.
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  Speaker 3: You leave lead.
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  Speaker 5: We were three four deep when I was at SC.
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  Speaker 5: That was back in the day. One hundred and thirty guys.
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  Speaker 5: You know, because you didn't start your freshman year, you
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: didn't transfer right, you were there because you knew you
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: were going to compete and you win games. You know
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: you're going to go to roase. Well, I think that's
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: the difference. And of course I think.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: That's killing the game. I was a college football. Do
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: you think that's hurt in college?
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's hurting it, but it's it's strange.
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: I mean because now when kids are getting in the pros,
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: like right now, let's use an example.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I go back to La my wife and I there's five.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Couples that we get together with we'll go to dinner
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: on anniversaries or birthdays or just go to dinner. All
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: five guys we were offensive linemen as freshman at USC.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Four of us were married in college. One shortly after college. Now,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, you introduced a guy in an NFL game,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: he started this college, he went to that college.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Where do you hang your hat?
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, what guys do you hang with forty five
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: years later?
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: You know so?
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: I think that's I mean, to me, that is so
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: special to be able to hang with guys that you
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: entered college with at seventeen, eighteen years old, that know you,
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: and that you might not see them every month of
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: the year, but you see them two three times a
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: year and you don't lose a beat.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think they care about that though, at this
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: pointent in time, right now, I think it's a very
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: interesting perspective of how you put that. I just don't
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: think the young, the young fellows are really looking at that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: They're more about I mean, I get you, you're trying
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to make money for a family.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Right exactly, and the better yourself.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I just don't think for the most part, they're worrying
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: about Oh yeah, at eighteen, I want to be able
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: to go to dinner with you when I'm sixty two
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: or no.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: We have lived life, so we appreciate it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it is a unique experience where you have
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: these bonds you know where man, we got drafted or
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you know one of my teammates want a super Bowl
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and it's like special and so and it is like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: when you get back with these people. I also think
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: it's something to be said about having a home to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: go back to.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: You said, it's like, man, you're a se trojan. Yeah,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: and so you rolle with him. You wrote, you know
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: what I mean, I'm Alabama.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I rolled right, so like you know when that's Ohio
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: State got wants to say something to me yesterday on
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the golf course, like hold on, dog, you know what
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just throw this story out. I'm a
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: thirty second story where we go golf in here, so
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: we should have went golfing with you all. Rome Is
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Roman is teeing up his tea. He's getting ready and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: he's got his Alabama bag, you know, his golf bag.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: And this guy says something like, uh, you know they
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: got they have more bags. I got some Ohio State bags.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And if you know Rome, he's a happy lucky goo.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Just he laughs. He cries when he laughs. He crying
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: all the time. He's got a tears RT right now
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: because he's laughing, like the one of the happiest guys
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I know. And he just kind of looks at him
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and this mean serious face, was like, you ain't in
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a competition, like but he said it so rude, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like, bro, what did you do?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And he was just like, man, you can't come with
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: me like that first thing in the morning talk about
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: my school.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Like I just filling that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Bro, I ain't feeling that.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: You can't just writen me like that first thing in
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the morning.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, man, I was like, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: gets testy when you talk about Alabama.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: He gets But this is amazing. I love that story
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: because so I know so many of us. It's the
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: band for about colleges.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's anything you want about a protein.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I don't bother me.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I get it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Of course, being in Big ten country, it's like, don't
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: you wish you a Gundo house state? And now there's
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: my comeback, I said, you know, what by of Gundo
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: house state, I would have been oh for USC, I
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: would instead of being ten and oh against the Big ten.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: As if we were at USC, I would, I wouldn't
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: beat the Pac twelve. And they're like, okay, I guess
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: you're happy at us.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: So I get it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: You know, you do it kind of in a joking way,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: but it's like, hey, don't don't get that joking.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: When I said he it was too early, it was like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: this was like third in the morning. Then yes, that's how.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: We need so here.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: So we're watching the National Championship game between the SEC
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: and the Big ten because our house and with it,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: Ted Gen Junior runs an opening kickoff back but touch
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: that and they're like okay because my son, okay, see.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Where's all the steed?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: After that, they didn't say a word the whole game
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: because I think they just smacked down.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: It was like crazy, Yeah, it was funny. But the
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: big tim one the last last two, so that's true.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I give them the props.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to take a short break and we'll
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: be right back. So we alluded to some of this
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. NFL Top one hundred player you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL has been around since nineteen twenty and I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: believe nineteen or I'm sorry, twenty twenties when they came
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: out with that team. And there's been thousands of players,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: not just offensive lineman, there's been thousands of players that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: have come through this league. And you were a top
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred player out of all the people that have
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: been in this league. What does that feel like like
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: when you got that? And I mean it's one thing
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to get the gold jacket. Yeah, you got the maroon
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like that, that that wine, Jackie.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: What did that feel like?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was amazing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: You know, we're down Miami for the Super Bowl and
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: they put us all in the same hotel.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just walking around, but you're right.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, we have three hundred and eighty two guys
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame and there's just one hundred
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: guys in the all time hundred team. And you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: the selectors were pretty impressive, I mean knowledgeable. So it's like, man,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: so it was a compliment. I mean to be around
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: those guys, and you know, again, to me, I have
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: to look at the journey because I think about you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you have to do a look at my knees, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you know the three knee operators in college. Playing one
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: game my senior year, got hurt, the first game surgery rehabit,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: and I played in the Rose Bowl. That was the
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: only game I played. And everybody's saying, that's a great
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: way to end their career. Go on, find something else
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: to do. You know, you played in the Rose Bowl.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: That's what you wanted to do with your guys. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I said, well, I'm just going to keep busting it,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: hopefully even as a free agent, because before my senior
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: year projected top ten.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: After that third d.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Operation, free agent, maybe not even the chance. So I
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: just want a chance to get in an NFL camp.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I wanted to compete. I just want to see if
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I could compete. And so thinking about Hall of Fame
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: top one hundred, I just think about that support group
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: earlier you mentioned, and I kind of took it as
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: self made. You know, people taught, and I laugh when
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: they say this self made guy, self made late and
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they get an accolade. They're
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: going to give a speech and they have like five
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: pages of people they're thinking, and I'm thinking, if you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: self made, don't you get up to the podium and
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: say I want to thank myself.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I want to thank myself.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: I did a great job. But now they're thinking high
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: school teachers, aunts and uncles, and that's the same way.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm thankful for the medical staff, the training staff,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: my college teammates that encouraged me. Of course, my wife
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: that was with me every step of the way, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: family and just all the encouragement I had, even trying
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: to stay away from reading he's not going to play
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: in the NFL. And then for the Bengals to pick me,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: not only draft me, but it's the third pick in
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the draft and give me a chance to go to
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: an NFL camp, it makes that you know, Hall of
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: fame and then just even more like wow, humble because
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: here I was, I wasn't even to get a chance,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: but half more than half the teams failed me in
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: the physical and the Bengals said, hey, we watched that
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Rose Bowl. We're going to take you, and you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: to be able to play for them, and to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: able to play for a few more games than I
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: did at USC it just but it's really humbling to
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: sit around with all these guys and guys that played
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: way before I played, a little before guys I played with,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: and guys that played after I played, and to just
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: think about man, and you're right. You think about the
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: number of individuals that have played this game and that
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: they've taken one hundred all time, and they're going to say, Okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: you're the one hundred top. It's just to be mentioned
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: with the other linement, which is pretty cool.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: We've all been humbled in this league at some point
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: or another. And I remember my you know, my rookie year,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: my first training camp, I was humbled fairly quickly about
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Olin Cruiz. You you have a welcome to the NFL.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Moment, Yeah, I do. So.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: My first head coach Forrest Greg Hall of Fame tackle
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers. So we go up to Green Bay
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: to play where he played, and I'll never forget as
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: a rookie, I've been called out in front of my
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: teammates one time, and that was by my Hall of
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Fame tackle head coach because their defensive end had a
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: really good game. And not only do they have a
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: good game against me, they pulled them out in the
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: last few minutes. And he's sitting on the bench real
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: close to the side and a fan handed him a
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: hot dog and he's eating a hot dog before the
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: game was over. So at our meeting Monday morning, man,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: he got up and he's talking. He goes and you
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: our number one. Bit he goes touch and just had
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: his game and then he's in and he goes and
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: That will be the last time that that's going to happen.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: So that was as a coach, and then I had
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: another one early in my career. We're playing the New
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: England Patriots and early on I showed that I could
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: pull so for a tackle.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: The pool is rare, but we had to play.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: And I still remember to play onto I release left tackle,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I would pull all the way around strong guard and
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: the on side backer. They have a backer that's about
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: six five two fifty Steve Nelson. Our sidelines here, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: my whole thing was when I pulled, get the shoulders,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: turned up back and boom, then go up. I did
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: not get my shoulders. I come here, Steve Nelson, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: just as I started to turn, boom, he hit me in.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: All my teammates on the side and go cause he unloaded. Man,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: And I was like, and I tell people, you get
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: knocked out I don't care who you are as a
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: football player, Hall of Him. We all get knocked down. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: we get knocked down in life. How are you going
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: to get back up and believe me? I got up
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: in a hurry.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got up in a hurry.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I got back in the huddle and said, Okay, that's
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: not going to happen again.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So after after all that happened, right, so my I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: think my rookie year, I knew I was pretty good
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: after I made I made a play against Randy moss right,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I Randy Mosses in his prime.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I go up, I get into.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: A reception and I'm telling myself like, damn, okay, I'm
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: from the small school, but I think I can. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: think I can plain in this league with these cass
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I just did this ragne them most like it helped
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: my confidence. Was there a play that made you think
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to yourself, oh, man, I could dominate this league? When
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: did you know you could be a dominant player.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: When I got to camp and I earned the starting
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: job three days in the camp because of what I
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: was doing, it was like, you know, I was going
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: against guys that have played at Notre Dame and they're
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: in the league for a while, and I was able
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: to pass block and run block, and I said, man,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm thankful they drafted me. And the first
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: thing that came to my mind is that, Remember I
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: said I wanted a chance to go to camp to
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: see if.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I could compete.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I told myself, I can compete in this league. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I started saying, goes, I don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: only want to compete, I want to be the best.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I want to be a pro bowler every year. But
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: first three days in camp and then that first preseason game,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I said, okay, there you go. You got lee Roy
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Salmon right across from Tampa Bay. And then three weeks
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: later I opened up with Tampa and I got le
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Roy Salmon again, you know. And so it was early
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: on when I said I believe I can compete in
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: this league.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So you're not the only tackle that has mentioned Lee
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Roy Selvin. I want to get to that in a second,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: but I want to kind of go back a little bit.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned your college. You haven't hurt, you
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: were you had three knee surgeries. You're only healthy your
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: sophomore year. Your senior year, you played two games, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: so you only played sixteen games total in college?
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Was a few more so nine my freshman year twelve
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: twenty one, and then seven, so about twenty six games.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, about twenty six games total in.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: College out of about forty four to fifteen.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, all that being said, you only missed ten when
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you got to the NFL throughout your thirteen year career.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: How much pride do you take in that, because, like
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you said, it was all the doubt leading up to it,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and you said, you know, I put all that down
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and then you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Were able to stay healthy for your whole career.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: But jority of you, well, I think the key for
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: me was my workouts for alignment.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: I lifted, of course, lifted like crazy, but running was
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: a big part of my work and I ran.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I ran a lot of distance. Like let's take my
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: rookie year.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I took a day off after that last game and
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I started running distance for about two months.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I was like four to six mile a day guy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: So I felt the better shape I was in and
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: the stronger I was, I was going to cut down
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: the risk of injury. So being physically as strong and
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: as you know, when I got to camp, I didn't
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: worry about my cardio. I could get through practice and
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: we'd do our gassers and I would just I would
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: breeze through them. And so when I got drafted, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: you have your team goals, Playoff, super Bowl, but a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: lot of my personal goals were every time I put
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: the Bengal uniform on, I want to be there for
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: my teammates. I want to be there every Sunday for
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: my teammates, and I'm going to do whatever I can. Yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of things out of your control,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: getting hurt, stuff, But I want to be in the
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: best shape so when I'm going full speed, I can
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: bounce right back up. And you know, I had things
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: here and there. But you know, I'm very grateful that
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I was able to play that many games. I missed
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: my first game year eleven, I had a dislocated you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: linebacker hit me from behind after the play was whistled dead.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: So I had dislocated elbosh. I missed the last two
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: games and that was my you know, fourteenth week fourteen,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: my eleventh year, and so that was you know, to me,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: not only was it my job, and I said, you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Know, it's my job.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be ready and I'm gonna be out there.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: I want my teammates to trust and believe that I'm
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: going to be ready every Sunday to go out there
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: with them, And that was my whole goal.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to say you were ready is probably
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the understatement of the of the day.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: But I appreciate you being this humble shoar entity.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You were either you were selected either first team or
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: second team All Pro every single season. I'm sure you
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: know this, but I want to make sure you were
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: two years except for two years out of your whole career,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: which is your rookie year and your last year.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Like when you're saying.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: These stats, like I know you've heard them, but like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: how do you even kind of quantify the level of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: success that you were able to have? Or like when
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: people tell you these things, you know you can't just
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: brush it off anymore. Explain this to me like a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: normal person when we bring up stats like this that
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: nobody else has.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: What So I go right back to preparation.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I think if you're a businessman and you're in the
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: top of your field, it's because if you're staying on
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: top of your craft, you're learning everything you need to
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: learn about your business. And that was what the approach
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I took my off season was just not running and lifting.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: It was lifting, running and then take some time to
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: do my technique. I wanted to go into camp work.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I did apply a metric. So when I got into
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: camp and my first one on one pass pro, I
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: didn't feel like I had two left feet. I felt
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: like I'd been passed proing all off season because of
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: the plios I did. So it was about and then
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: studying film insteading, Okay, you got to do this better,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: you get so I really believe that was the key.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: And every year I said, okay, you're five, it's four
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowls in a row. I got to turn up
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: preparation in the off season. I got to do even
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: more and focus more on the technique, get even stronger,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: try to get stronger, stay on top of that and
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: my conditioning.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Run.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I mean the test. We did an example my last year.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I'm thirty four years old and we have to do
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: a mile. So there's Tim Krumrai crazy the tackle who
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: did mini triathlons, and myself, so we had eight and
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: a half minutes to run a mile.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: O line d line together. Do we line up?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: And I looked at Tim, he looks at me, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: we win and we say do we take off? And
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: we do it like in six forty six point fifty,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: and all the young linemen are complaining, say, hey, I'm
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: an older guy and I gotta I gotta show this
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: team that I can still. So that was the key
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: I prepared for that. And all the other position guys
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: were like, what are you guys doing. We have this
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: much time, We're not gonna I say, guys, we're getting
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: ready for a season. Man, if you want to win,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: you go out and prepare to be the best. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: that was to me to stay on top of my craft.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I did everything from January to July that I possibly
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: could do, so when I went to camp, all I
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: had to worry about was my blocking combinations and just
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: you know with my linemen, my you know, the football part.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: But I don't have to worry about my conditioning. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: didn't have, So I believe that's what allowed me to
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: go in year one, year ten, and even year thirteen,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: even though I got I was on IR a couple
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: of times. I could probably run a lot more Year
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: thirteen than I could Year nine.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: You just kept turning it up.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just keep turning the vall. I just keep turning.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: One of the things my daughter, you know last weekcause
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: she was we call her the best athlete. You know.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: You talk about our grandkids, but our daughter. She was
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: a two time Miss Basketball, two times D one player
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: that year. And know how I went to Tennessee and
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: of course I played cup, but I never gave her
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: any basketball. The only thing I would do during the
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: game is if I know something she would look, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: would go turn it up. I'd go turn it up.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: And she jokes about that. Now she goes, that's all
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that to her boys. Her boys fourteen and fifteen tore
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: like six eight. Now I'm looking up and that's all
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: she talks about is turning up the volume, the intensity.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: And to me, that's what it was all about. Attitude.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I love that for you. Just keep being a sports brand,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: a sports parent.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Oh it's cool. I love it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So what do I want to I want to talk
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: about a Super Bowl real quick, super Bowl twenty three.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Where were you thinking when you were on the sideline
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and you see Joe Montana come in with three minutes
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: left in the fourth quarter and they take the lead
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: So when he first came in, you know, a deep
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: eight yard line. Then they start down. I'm thinking, if
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I only had Bruce Smith pass rushing ability to go
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: ahead and help my defense and get some pass rush
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: on him. You know, it's crazy because Jerry Rice had
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I think over two hundred yards felt helpless there.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Just watch it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I know that feeling, unfortunately.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So I want to talk about, you know, another record
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: that you have and is that you were tied for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: all time with four touchdowns for offensive linment. But I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: want to talk about specifically your favorite, at least that's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: what you've told people before, your first one.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: That's easy. Cleveland were part right down the street.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Talk about it, tell me about it, call me all right,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Sam Weiss, rookie head coach Kenny Anderson started quarterback hurt
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: or back up the Boomerasias and rookie. He's left hander,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: he's in. I mean, it's muddy, it's terrible. And so
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: we're up in Cleveland, and so we're down seventeen to ten,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: forty some seconds left.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: They're punting.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: All they gotta do is punt it away. We have
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: no timeouts. They pinised deep. There's no way Rodney Holman
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: goes through tight end blocks the punt. Now we got
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: the ball, we had a little life, so we're going down.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Pass interference on the one, so we get at the
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: one yard line. And that was the first week, first
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: week that Sam put in. We called it our we
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: be goal line because when we've get in that formation,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: we be scoring. So he put in two more linemen.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Then he put that was the first time he put
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: me at H back. It was always tight end h back.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: But that was the first week that he had a
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: play designed twenty eight Anthony bounce touch down, and it
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: was on the play sheet. I said, there's no way
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: they'll ever call it. So, you know, Sam and the
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks always signal in plays, you know, they tell him,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: tell them.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: How important, tell the people how important it is to
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: make sure you catch the ball when you actually call
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: this play.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Press Okay.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: So the importance being in Cleveland is that I either
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: fly home with the team or I walk home.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's how important. I mean, come on, that's
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: but no interstate rivalry.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: The Cleveland Browns, I mean, Paul Brown was what the
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Cleveland brown started.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: The Bengals.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: The owner Borist Greig my coach, although this was afterwards
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: he was fired from Cleveland. But now this is Sam
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Weish's first year, so it's very important. Yes, So I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: saying the first time a practice for working.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I feel good about catching the Boomer a couple of time.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Boomer can throw the ball, you know, but Kenny kind
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: of real nice. And so we get in there and
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: we block it first and goal seven. Well, I didn't
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: know the signals for all the other plays, but I
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: knew the signal from Sam to Boomer.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: For this play.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: And I said, so we're in the huddle first and
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: goal no time not to the time. I look over
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: and Sam is signaling this play. Well, I'm the primary
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: receiver offensive tackle at h back, and I'm thinking, holy smokes,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I said, this guy does not want to be a
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: head coach in the NFL. Long say, okay, time to
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: catch it. So we line up. If I'm on the
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: right h back, I hit, Well, it's ankle deep MUDs
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: his bat. We go to the ground and Boomer takes it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: He's rolling because he's faking, and he's rolling the right
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: as a lefty. Well, I fall and he's going that way.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: I go nope, I'm staying right here because boom So.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: The defense gets up. They start chasing, and I just
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: settled right here. Boomer stops. Boom, I catch it, touchdown,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: We kick the extra point. Now we're going overtime. That
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: takes as an overtime Jim Breach all time leading scorer
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: for the Bengals nine for nine and ot kicks x
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: field goal. We beat him twenty seventeen in overtime. But
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: it was funny, so I gotta share a fast forward now.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: So I grabbed the touchdown the first one, and my lineman, man,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: they're grabbing me, and I was gonna spike it. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: thought they're gonna rip my shoulder out, so I waited
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: for them to leave and then I went boom the
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: ball boom So. A couple of years ago, on that date,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: they usually play that video and this young man and
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: I rarely answer social media, and I was on Twitter
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: and some guy rights, he goes, wow, look at Munyos.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: He grunked at the spike and I looked back.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I said, excuse me, I said, Gronk Munyas is his
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: spikes and the guy goes, oh, I'm so sorry, right right,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: but yeah, that was the first one. And uh, I
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: mean it was as an old line. We just were
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: and and I give a lot of credits. So Monday,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: you go in, you lift, we had everybody would leave
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: the facility and we would have our fat man football game.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: We would have between the numbers tag football and it
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: would be the older guys. Again. In fifth year, I
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: was an older guy, so we play the younger guys
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: in a touch football game. Well, Max Montoya, the starting
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: right guard, was a quarterback and I was a receiver,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and you know, we'd get a young guy, say I
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: got Muniyas, I got Munyas. I look at Max and
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: we you know, we torched him and stuff. And so
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Sam's office was right on the corner there, and I
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: think he would watch us, and maybe that's kind of
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: what led to you know, throw it to me. But
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, so that was and you'll appreciate. I gotta
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: share this story too. So we're playing at home against
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Seattle and now I'm on the left tight end seven
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: D eight eligible. You know, Refree announces it, so I'm
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: supposed to hit the guy and I go to pieline boom. Well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Boomer gets flushed even in goal line. So I kind
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: of cut across and the in line's right here and
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: the linebacker's right here, and I see Boomer, so I'm thinking, disreact.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I stopped. Boomer throws it in the door. I go up.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: There's no I but this guy goes over my back. Yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: past interference. We get another play.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: So I just it was just like I said, Now,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: I've watched my gu I just watched my guy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You know, I just watch my guys. What they do.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: You know, you just stop and let them go over
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: your back because there's no more room to get running.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: And then one other one weren't Houston, and I'm the
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: right this time. I'm the right tight end. Bruce Coslet's
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: up in the box and we call, you know, hit
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: and go to the pieline well and whistle goes dead.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: So what I do is I hooked locked that defensive end,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: drive them inside. I said, was not good. Next play,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: get in the huddle. He calls the same play. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: hit the guy, go touchdown by getting the planet.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Said Bruce.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: He says, I saw you hooked the guy. You ran,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: you know you ran blocked him. I said, yeah, because
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I saw that you didn't give it away. So yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: sot a couple against Houston, one against Seattle, and then
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: of course the big Clayland I.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Was it was all four were boomer, All four were boomer.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: In the sync. I like that. I did look man
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: first of all, I love big man football. It was
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: that was a.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Most like when DB's excuse me, It's like when d
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Lineman get interceptions.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Were so happy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, and everyone's trying to get them in the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: end zone. Everybody's everyone's trying to get them an in zone.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Come on, let's go, keep it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Going, keep going.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Everybody loves big Man with ball. It's hilarious. This is great, Okay.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I love the stories.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: We will be right back.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and thirteen, in New York, I won the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: one Walter Payton Man of the Year, very precedious award
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that the NFL has nineteen ninety one.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You won the award.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: What does that mean to you?
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: So that to me is right up there with the
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. And I got the Athletes and Action
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Bart Star Award, which is similar to Walter Payton, because
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: that's not all football. It's who you are as an
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: individual with your family in the community. And to me,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: that has so much more impact than the thirteen years
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I played in And I'm talking lifetime impact with people
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: that you're working with, and so you know that Walter
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Payton NFL Man of the.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Year is very very special.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: In fact, I got the I got the jersey frame
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: in my man cave with the you know the.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Little old patch. Yeah, the patch on it, and oh
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you gott I ain't got the patch.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: I gotta get you got so you got to get
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: the patch. I ain't got the I got to talk
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: to somebody. I gotta get the patch.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Talk to I think Tracy, Tracy, Tracy, I need my patch.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Anthony mentioned jersey with the Men of the Year patch.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: They went back and got you what to what happened?
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: So in Minnesota Super Bowl the Eagles were they Yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: So Chris Carter noticed that the players on the field
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: had the He goes, hey, all those former winners man. Yeah, yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: and you didn't get the jersey. I thought they put
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: a jersey in all her rooms.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So I have a jersey when we do appearances and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: things like that. But I don't have like my own
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: personal like I need.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I got to get the patch like your game jersey
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: with the but they have it sold on so I
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: gotta get that. Yeah, but yeah, that that award I mean,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: and had a chance, of course to be around Walter.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, what a guy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're in a round table in DC one year.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: My daughter's six years old. And what I'd do when
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: they were young, I'd take them to an event, just myself,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: my son, myself, my daughter, and we'd go. And I
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: took her to DC and we're doing these round tables
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: and one of them, Walter and I sat out. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: we were in the out there sitting down and Michelle
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: was sitting between Walter and I. We left, and she
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: felt like a princess after spending time with Walter Man.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: She would ask how's Walter Payton doing when.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: She was a little girl?
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: But you know, to carry his name and to be
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: so that is a very right up there at the
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: top with anything I've been awarded with.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: All right, do you tell us more about your anthey
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Munhos Foundation. You have been able to affect more than
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: fifty seven thousand youth throughout the Cincinnati.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And Ohio area.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You've given over two million dollars away in scholarship funds.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: We started in two thousand and two.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Of course, I retired, you know, ten years prior to that,
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: and I understand, when you're playing, you have leverage, you
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: have relevance to start, and a lot of young guys
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: start foundations. Husband bother and an NFL football player, I
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: didn't have time to be involved in a foundation, I mean,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: so I helped a lot of other groups what they
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: were doing. Because when I do something, I want to
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: be totally engaged. I want to be hands on impact.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: So in two thousand and two, after putting a game
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: plan together and you know, talking to corporate people, our
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: kids were like sophomores in college, I said, now's the
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: time to start it. So I started the Anti Munius
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Foundation to engage the Tristate area to impact youth mentally, physically,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: and spiritually. So we have eight programs, the scholarship being
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: one of the programs we have. We work with young
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: people from kindergarten through seniors in high school, everything from
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: mentoring program from k through five and then we don't
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: want to lose them after fifth grade, so we have
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: another mentoring program for middle school and then.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: So that's two of the programs.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: We have overnight character camps we take away in the spring,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: pretty multicultural We take them about one hundred and fifty
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: young men to three three nights to a camp and
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: they just show up.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: We have we teach them a little football, man.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: We can't take them to camp, but a lot of
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: it is character team building. And then we have a
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: chapel in the character of talk every day and we
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: have a coaching staff that leads them through discussion. So
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: that's we do that one in the spring, and then
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: the fall we do one that's one hundred percent of
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Hispanic kids. Take them away for three days and to
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: feed them, give them swag. I mean, like I said
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: that all they do is bring their change of clothes
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: and whatever they need to bring.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So that's two more.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Then in June, I have a dinner in golf and
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: then two days right about that time, we have it's
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: the same template as the overnight camps, but it's a
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: day camp at the Bengals Stadium. We have about four
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: hundred young people. Twenty percent of those four hundred young ladies,
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: same thing. We teach them a little football, but it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: character team building. And I have a coach that coached
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: high school football forever, was an educator and he could
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: probably write a book on and you could use it
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: for young people corporations on team building activities, and we
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: do that. We utilize that. So we do those three camps.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: In October, we have what we call our Youth Leadership Seminar.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: We bring in anywhere from eighty five to one hundred
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: high schools full day. We have motivational leadership speakers, we
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: have breakout sessions. We have key stakeholders in the community
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: that lead these young this high school through conversation of
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: things they might not want to discuss, you know, other
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: and we have we've been you know, we'll do entrepreneurs young,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: we do mental health, which has been a big hit
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: for these young people. So we bring in speakers and
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, after this full day event,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: we do a community service challenge and these young people
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: will initiate and put them together. And we've had some
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: great community service projects. They put together projects and then
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: we kind of track them and I give money to
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: the top two. You know, maybe like redoing a school,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: you know, a playground, or doing this that we had
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: an inner city school, very little resources. They initiated and
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: it's still going. Not only came up with an ideal,
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: but built brick and Mortar a school in Sierra Leone,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: really and then the next year this was an inner
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: city school. They did a fundraiser with the suburban school.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: So you're talking ninety nine percent black, ninety nine percent white.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: They had a walk.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: They raised about thirty thousand dollars. It costs a dollar
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: a year to put a kid through school, so they
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: sent us pictures of these kids that had ach in
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: high school, these little kids in Sierra Leone because that
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: was the school. But we have things like that, So
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: that's our leadership seminar. We have two types of scholarships.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Ones in the spring, we do nine male nine female finalists.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: It's called our straight A Academics, Athletics, Attitude Achievement, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: a big criteria is overcoming adversity and that's a one
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: time two to five thousand dollars scholarship. We have an
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: amazing steakhouse in Cincinnati. The guy donates it, They bring
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: their most influential teacher and then so we award that
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: the mail winner gets a custom made ring foundation ring
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: mcgal gets a nice pendant and then so they get
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: to come up to the podium with their teacher.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: We take pictures.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: That's our straight a and then in the summer when
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: we do our event, we have our scholarship fund, so
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: we award twenty thousand dollars scholarships to individuals. We just
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: gave out five last month in June, and two days
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: after that, one of my board members, who two board
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: members and myself, we interview these young people that we
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: do interview and we had fifteen finalists and we had
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: fun for five but after each interview, my buddy said, man,
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: I wish we had fifteen scholarships because everyone of them
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: was deserving. So two days afterwards, this board member calls
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: and says that, you know, I'm so thankful to be
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: on this committe. We interview these young people and you
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: know how passionate I am about we have a chance
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: to change LiveShare. When we're talking first generation kids, they graduate,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: they come back and help. He says, you know, they
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: run him and his wife and the family foundation. He says,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: we just had a meeting board meeting, and we're gonna grant.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: We're gonna write your foundation of grant list plan. We
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: have ten scholarships for next year already stroke to check
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: for two hundred grand.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: But right now a year in advance. We already have
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: ten scholarships that we're gonna give next year. So that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: the foundation.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: Like you said, we deal with about twenty five to
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: three hundred young people. And I love it because I'm
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: there at the camps and.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: We can tell your fault, the way you're able to.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Provide so much information, the passion in which you speak about, like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: we can tell you care. And so this goes a
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: lot back to what you're saying when you're coaching your
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: old son. When you're coaching and you're doing all these things,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you for being who you are. I can
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: tell everything you do it matters.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: To you, but does And you know, it's funny. I went,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I was meeting with.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: My CEO tour.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I go, and I'm the guy that I share my
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: passion and mission and hopefully they write checks. I write
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: with a ride with the guy for four hours in
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: a golf cart. Don't ask a penny, and he here,
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: you need some money. So I was talking to CEO
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: in Cincinnati in about twenty minutes and it he goes, man,
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: you know what's going on with your foun day? I said,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: you know what I said, everything's public. You can check
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: our audits. The last six years, we've given ninety five
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: cents to a dollar on the kids. And he goes,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: I'm on the board of this was a few years agause,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: I'm on the board of one of the players. He goes,
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: they don't know what's going on with their names on
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: I said, well, I said, well, I that's why I
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: waited ten years after, because I wanted to be engaged.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: I run our board meetings. You know, I don't know
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: everything about it, but I know our numbers. I know
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: where it's all going, you know. I make decisions on
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: staff payment. We have four staff. We're leaning staff for
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: what we do, but they get it done. And I
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: have seventeen unbelievable board members. I mean I could call
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: him right now for some advice and if they didn't
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: pick up the phone, they'd call right back. And then
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: we one thing we started which is pretty cool twenty
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: four years ago. We have an internship program with local
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: college students. We have four to eight a year that
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: come in and it's non paid. It's part of what
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: they do at school and they learn everything about the
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: non for profits. They're not just running off copies, man,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: They're they're learning and working and so and then we
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: have a database of about one hundred and fifty volunteers.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: So it's truly it has my name on it, but
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: it's a team effort. I mean, it's that's where it
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: ends with my name. But so yeah, we're we're rolling.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: And of course at my age, you know you're thinking, Okay,
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: how much longer do you do this? And every year
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: my wife and I go, Man, it keeps energizing us,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: and here you keep going.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: So you've given us some gyms. Well, just how humble
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you are. And clearly you are not a self made person. No,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: So if I gave you four people to put on
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: your amount rushmore of who made you the man you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: are today, who would those four people be?
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Right in the middle would be Estra Munos, my mom,
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: who raised five by ourself, working two three jobs.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I never knew my dad. He was in prison, and.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: She just he taught us work ethic, not by shitting
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: us down, but just by watching her walk over the
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: tracks to work at seven in the morning, coming home
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: at four, picking dinner, washing clothes and everything. She taught
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: us and then literally teaching us what responsibility is. Because
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: if I wanted to play baseball in the summer. We
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: had to do our chores. And it wasn't just dust.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: We had to wash clothes, wash dishes, iron clothes, clean
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the house. So she would be right there. I'd have
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: to put my wife right there, Dedi, like I said,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: I got married when I was nineteen, so she's been
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: on the journey for a lot of years. And I
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: mean just a great supporter, you know, a woman of
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: great insight and great faith. And so I put Dedi there.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I'd have to put Jesus right there. You know, he'd
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: be right there. I think it'd be between my mom
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: and him, but I'd still put my mom.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: He'd be right next to her.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: You can put them all the time.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: He's got his own, Okay, that's so that's he's his own.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: He got his own.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The fourth would be a team of support.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: You're such a team player you can't even pick right.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Is hard, And I did that specifically. It's like, no,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I need you to pick four people.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: You can't.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that just goes into character, like no, I've
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have poured into you.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: It's uh, it's been a great journey, just uh.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know when DDE and I pray in
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: the morning, we pray about for our family family, then
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: we pray about our college friends. We pray about our
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: friends in Cincinnati. And it's just like I mean, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: I sit there at times just overwhelmed by just you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: because you know, men don't have you know, it's hard.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Ladies have close friends, but you talk to men, it's like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: give me your top three four best friends, and they're like,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: I think most guys struggle with that.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: I can give you like close to ten, like guys
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: that are just tight, you know, like minded. I can
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: call those four guys in California and at least four
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: minimums since that I have that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm blessed man, I tell you what.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: That's why I can't come up with just you know,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: because there's so many people in my life that have
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: been just impactful.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Half of that, though, Anthony, is because you give that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And so when you give that emotion, you give that
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: you're open. And when you're open like that, you're usually
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: able to receive more as well.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: And so when you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Put it out there and to the earth and to
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: the world and to the universe, that's when you get it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: We always talk about You know what, when you want something,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: you need to start praying for others to get it
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, that's when you receive it, you know
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So you got to put it out
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: there to receive it all tomately. And we can tell
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: by your passion, your words how much of a team
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: guy you are and how I get it listening to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: you and the way you describe things about who you
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: truly genuinely are, and I hope the rest of us
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: can pick they're gonna be able to pick up on
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that as well.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: It's just interesting.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Because you know, for a lot of years when Cincinnati
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't on top of everything, the one player that always
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: stood and they talked about was Anthony Munyo. And now
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: that I've got to sit down and meet you and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: humbly and just spend some time with you, the last
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: person that Anthony Munyos talks about is Anthony Munyo.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: And so it's just really.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Cool kind of putting all that together, being this young
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: man that watched they learned all these great things about you,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: then getting to meet you and then it's like, you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: actually he wants to talk about everybody.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Else in his life. I like that. Yeah, I hate him.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that. And my wife and I always talk
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: about us. You know what, we're both from Montaro, California,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: and I mean, we don't forget where we came from.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: We were doing an event the other last year and
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: it was there's a place where they take addicts and
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: bring them in and they house them and they feed
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: them and they train them, get them jobs. And the
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: guy that's directing, he's a recovered addict and his wife
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: is the same thing.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: And she's talked to my wife.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: She's, I know you guys are here to talk to us,
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: but I'm sure you guys don't understand what a lot
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: of us are going And I'm like, he's know, you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: we both come from dysfunctional My brother oded in my
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: arms when he was a senior in high school. Thank
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: god he survived. I got three cousins doing life in prison.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: I communicate with them and I said, no, we we
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: know what you all are going through. You know, we've
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: had addiction, and you know I paid for a couple
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: of funerals of my young cousins that were shot to
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: death drive by shooting.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So no, we get it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: That's why we're doing what we're doing because we want
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: to be a part of the solution. But yeah, Dede
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: and I, you know, we h he's very smart, but
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: we have that you know, background that we'll never forget,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: uh and very thankful that you know where we came from.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: You know, we talked about my college adversity. I never
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: trade that in for what I learned. I mean it
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: was tough at the time. I mean to be watching
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: my guys every year on the sideline, you know. I
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: you know, that's one thing I told my son. He
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: was a four year starter, but he sat out his
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: second year. And the first thing I told him, I said,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: don't isolate yourself. Stay engaged with your team. They're preparing
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: the coaches, so it's going to be a natural separation,
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: you know, someone that's hurt with I said, but you
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: got to make it your initiative to be engaged. One
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: of the things I did for three years I became
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: the official spatter. I'd carry my tape. But you know
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: that sc you had to spray paint your spat black.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: So if Charles White wanted a little extra tape, I'd
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: have to have a spray can. If my lineman wanted
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: a spat I would do it for him, but I
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: had to spray it black because no white tape on
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: your shoes. So that's how I kind of stayed engaged,
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: you know, with my guys and hung out with them.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: But you know, because it is it's.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Your niche role exactly right, be a team player.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Nothing else for Anthony human. You've been amazing, awesome. Thank
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: you for just the wisdom and just everything you've said.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I took it all in and I really do appreciate it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And then as Room said, you you really are passionate
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and you get out what you receive.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: And it is an organic feeling. And yeah, I'm I'm
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: taking that with me today, no doubt.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Man, you are a light.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: You got to keep shining, Anthony Munjos, because you shine
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: so bright you allow others to be seen. And so
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: hat you man for stopping by taking time. And I'm
• 54:03
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• 54:21
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• 54:24
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• 54:25
  Speaker 4: I'm Peanut.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: That's wrong, that's Anthony. And this is the NFL Player's
• 54:29
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