Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie spoke with Greg Ireland from the Chamber of Commerce about Friday's vaccine mandate deadline
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And joining us on the line right now is the
- 0:01Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce CEO Greg Ireland.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. Another busy morning.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Huh, I'm always busy in here Greg.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Now now, firstly, obviously we've just been on the phone
- 0:14Speaker 1: to Tony Innes about this check in situation for a
- 0:18Speaker 1: lot of our businesses around the top end, and you know,
- 0:20Speaker 1: Tony certainly copped it on the chin, that is that
- 0:23Speaker 1: the Nuna Mar Tavern could have done more, obviously to
- 0:25Speaker 1: make sure that people were checking in as a result
- 0:28Speaker 1: of this latest COVID situation that we're in, mate, is
- 0:32Speaker 1: it quite difficult for some of our businesses at the
- 0:34Speaker 1: moment to make sure that they've got somebody who's checking
- 0:37Speaker 1: that everybody's checking in.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Or should it come down to personal responsibility?
- 0:43Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think under the current scenario it's pretty
- 0:46Speaker 3: important that the business does as much as practically possible
- 0:49Speaker 3: to get people to check in and confirm their vaccination
- 0:52Speaker 3: status as requested by the Chief Minister. But ultimately it
- 0:57Speaker 3: is a community responsibility to a bideline the requirements and
- 1:01Speaker 3: we're personally looking forward to the app being linked with
- 1:05Speaker 3: your vaccination status to kill two birds with one Stone
- 1:08Speaker 3: in that regard, do we know how far off.
- 1:11Speaker 2: We are from that?
- 1:11Speaker 1: I know that we'd spoken to Services Australia last week
- 1:14Speaker 1: and they said that there was work still underway, but
- 1:16Speaker 1: do you know if we're far away from getting there
- 1:19Speaker 1: and those two things being linked.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Look, I don't have a definitive answer to that, but
- 1:24Speaker 3: I'm led to believe it's actually working interstate and these
- 1:28Speaker 3: apps are quite common across the country, So I think
- 1:31Speaker 3: it's an implementation phase and the intention is to have
- 1:34Speaker 3: it up and running before the twelfth.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Excellent. Well, I do think that'll help you.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I reckon it'll just be helpful to be able to
- 1:41Speaker 1: have it all linked on there when you check in,
- 1:43Speaker 1: people know then, so that you don't end up in
- 1:45Speaker 1: that situation where staff members are sort of having to
- 1:48Speaker 1: ask correct.
- 1:51Speaker 3: It'll take a lot of the onus off the business
- 1:53Speaker 3: and allow them to get back onto what they do best,
- 1:55Speaker 3: and hopefully it's making good copy or a great sandwich.
- 2:00Speaker 1: How has the latest lockdown or lock out, I suppose
- 2:03Speaker 1: you'd say, how has it been impacted or received from businesses?
- 2:08Speaker 2: From the Chambers perspective.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Well, it certainly has created some additional workload on business
- 2:17Speaker 3: the vaccination and people as they progress from unvaccinated to
- 2:21Speaker 3: first vaccination and so forth, it has walked forward the
- 2:25Speaker 3: impact on the single vaccinated people. So we understand the
- 2:28Speaker 3: number of industries have had significantly reduced attendance and that
- 2:32Speaker 3: has a flow on effect. If you're not confident all
- 2:35Speaker 3: your workforce is going to be there, then how do
- 2:37Speaker 3: you invest in some of those key areas such as
- 2:40Speaker 3: a concrete poor and as in a building site. If
- 2:43Speaker 3: you don't have the labor there, you can't actually undertake
- 2:46Speaker 3: the work. So that has had some flow on effects.
- 2:49Speaker 3: But the majority of businesses have stepped up to the
- 2:51Speaker 3: plate and just got on with what needs to be
- 2:53Speaker 3: done in.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Terms of that mandate kicking in on Friday. From the
- 2:58Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce perspectives, how our businesses feeling. Are they
- 3:02Speaker 1: concerned or are they feeling quite sort of satisfied at
- 3:05Speaker 1: this point in time that their staff are going to
- 3:08Speaker 1: be vaccinated.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Going There's varying levels to that, Katie, but most businesses
- 3:14Speaker 3: are prepared and fully aware of what's going on. From
- 3:17Speaker 3: a membership perspective, we've been communicating with all of our
- 3:20Speaker 3: members regularly, just keeping them informed on what those requirements
- 3:23Speaker 3: are going to be dealing with any specific queries that
- 3:26Speaker 3: they may have. Our phones have been running pretty hot
- 3:29Speaker 3: just making sure that people understand exactly what's needed. I
- 3:33Speaker 3: think we're in a good understanding position for the twelfth
- 3:37Speaker 3: and then how that progresses through from there is just
- 3:42Speaker 3: hopefully going to remain an orderly process.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So at this point, do you have sort of any
- 3:48Speaker 1: businesses who are saying, oh, you know, my workforce is
- 3:52Speaker 1: going to be decreased because we're losing staff they're not
- 3:55Speaker 1: prepared to get vaccinated.
- 3:58Speaker 3: We are hearing that that is in the minority, but
- 4:01Speaker 3: there are people coming to see us and ringing regularly
- 4:04Speaker 3: to say that they're going to be impacted by this.
- 4:07Speaker 3: It's a situation is very, very difficult to manage because
- 4:11Speaker 3: it is a mandated requirement too effectively becomes law and
- 4:14Speaker 3: the business needs to comply with So that is always
- 4:18Speaker 3: going to remain a personal decision for those individuals, and
- 4:21Speaker 3: the impact is going to fly into business and they
- 4:24Speaker 3: really can't be helped at this point. That said, we're
- 4:27Speaker 3: encouraging businesses to accommodate people where they can in flexible
- 4:31Speaker 3: working environments, but where that's not possible, it just has
- 4:35Speaker 3: to be what it has to be.
- 4:37Speaker 1: I know that we've been contacted by some listeners saying
- 4:40Speaker 1: that there have been exemptions for some businesses around the
- 4:45Speaker 1: Northern Territory. One of those is apparently on a building side.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Are you aware of any businesses being able to sort
- 4:52Speaker 1: of seek exemptions to not have all of their staff
- 4:55Speaker 1: vaccinated at this point? Is that even able to happen.
- 5:00Speaker 3: I'm unaware of that requirement or that capability at all, Kadie.
- 5:04Speaker 3: I suspect there may be some confusion. There's a requirement
- 5:07Speaker 3: in some cases for one hundred percent compliance to award
- 5:11Speaker 3: government contracts. Yes, that does have some exemptions if certain
- 5:16Speaker 3: workers are nable to be accommodated and won't have any
- 5:20Speaker 3: potential infection capability through their work that they undertake, So
- 5:26Speaker 3: there is some room to move around that. But apart
- 5:29Speaker 3: from that, the individuals, as far as I'm aware, have
- 5:33Speaker 3: to comply.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Greg. Is there any update in terms of those government
- 5:37Speaker 1: contracts at this point. I know that when we caught
- 5:40Speaker 1: up with the Chief Minister about two weeks ago, he
- 5:43Speaker 1: had said that it was going to come into play,
- 5:46Speaker 1: but I haven't heard any further announcements. Are you aware
- 5:48Speaker 1: whether it has indeed gone ahead or not.
- 5:52Speaker 3: No, I'm unaware of again any release. It's just still
- 5:56Speaker 3: in concept stage and being talked about us aspect that
- 6:00Speaker 3: it's coming, and that's where some of those discussions have
- 6:03Speaker 3: emanated as part of the criteria that's about to be
- 6:06Speaker 3: released as we understand it.
- 6:08Speaker 1: So, greg from your perspective, come sort of Friday or
- 6:11Speaker 1: I guess Friday is the last day for people to
- 6:13Speaker 1: actually to get that vaccine and then by Saturday all
- 6:18Speaker 1: of those outward facing jobs realistically need to have adhered
- 6:22Speaker 1: to that mandate. From your perspective, are we going to
- 6:26Speaker 1: see a huge impact on the business community, Well.
- 6:32Speaker 3: We should see an improvement in the situation from what
- 6:34Speaker 3: we've got now, Katie. So under the lockout, if your
- 6:37Speaker 3: single vaccinated, you can't participate. However, post Friday you can participate.
- 6:43Speaker 3: So as long as we are out of this particular
- 6:46Speaker 3: lockout scenario, we're going to see an improvement on the
- 6:49Speaker 3: situation as it stands today. However, it is not necessarily
- 6:54Speaker 3: as good as what it has been in the past.
- 6:57Speaker 3: So we still think that the people that aren't vaccinat
- 7:00Speaker 3: are going to be in the minority, and hopefully the
- 7:04Speaker 3: back rays that we've seen over the last few days
- 7:06Speaker 3: will continue.
- 7:07Speaker 1: And so you're not expecting to see any Northern Territory
- 7:10Speaker 1: businesses close as a result.
- 7:14Speaker 3: I suspect that there may be some that have adverse
- 7:16Speaker 3: outcomes as a result, but it's very difficult to map
- 7:20Speaker 3: that out. We hope that that's not the case, but
- 7:24Speaker 3: I think it is going to challenge some areas for sure.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Well, it is always good to catch up with you.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce CEO Greg Ireland, thank you so very
- 7:32Speaker 1: much for your time this morning.
- 7:35Speaker 2: You're welcome, Katie, thank you