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Why Fables Still Matter: Timeless Lessons for Today's Kids · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 3:52
  Hi,
• 3:52
  I'm
• 3:52
  Patti
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  Bonesteel.
• 3:54
  I'm
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  the
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  author
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  of
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  six
• 3:56
  books.
• 3:56
  They're
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  fables.
• 3:58
  The
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  Flamingo
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  with
• 3:59
  Two
• 3:59
  Left
• 3:59
  Feet,
• 4:00
  Amari's
• 4:01
  Big
• 4:01
  Surprise.
• 4:02
  It's
• 4:02
  not
• 4:03
  monkey
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  Bread.
• 4:04
  We
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  can
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  we
• 4:05
  do
• 4:07
  Search
• 4:08
  Barkley
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  and
• 4:09
  Leave
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  it
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  to
• 4:10
  the
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  Beavers
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  and
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  Ramona
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  and
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  Izzy.
• 4:13
  I'll
• 4:13
  be
• 4:14
  here
• 4:14
  for
• 4:14
  you.
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  Thanks,
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  Patty,
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  for
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  appearing
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  on
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  the
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  Adventures
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  in
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  the
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  Heart
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  of
• 4:18
  Children's
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  Book
• 4:19
  Authors
• 4:20
  podcast.
• 4:21
  Patti
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  has
• 4:22
  written,
• 4:22
  as
• 4:22
  she's
• 4:23
  mentioned
• 4:23
  six
• 4:24
  children's
• 4:24
  books
• 4:25
  and
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  today
• 4:25
  we're
• 4:25
  going
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  focus
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  on
• 4:26
  her
• 4:27
  book,
• 4:27
  Flamingo
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  with
• 4:29
  Two
• 4:29
  Left
• 4:29
  Feet.
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  I
• 4:30
  look
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  forward
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  to
• 4:31
  our
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  conversation.
• 4:33
  Patti,
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  before
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  we
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  jump
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  into
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  the
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  details
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  of
• 4:35
  your
• 4:35
  book,
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  can
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  you
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  tell
• 4:37
  us
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  what
• 4:38
  being
• 4:38
  a
• 4:39
  children's
• 4:39
  book
• 4:40
  author
• 4:40
  means
• 4:40
  to
• 4:41
  you?
• 4:42
  Being
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  children's
• 4:43
  author
• 4:44
  is
• 4:44
  something
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  I've
• 4:45
  always
• 4:46
  wanted
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  do.
• 4:47
  And
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  I
• 4:48
  started
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  out
• 4:49
  when
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  was
• 4:50
  reading
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  with
• 4:50
  my
• 4:51
  kids
• 4:51
  when
• 4:51
  they
• 4:51
  were
• 4:52
  growing
• 4:52
  up.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:53
  then
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  became
• 4:53
  an
• 4:54
  elementary
• 4:54
  school
• 4:55
  teacher.
• 4:55
  I
• 4:55
  was
• 4:55
  an
• 4:56
  elementary
• 4:56
  teacher
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  for
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  25
• 4:57
  plus
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  years.
• 4:59
  When
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  you're
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  teacher,
• 5:00
  you're
• 5:00
  on
• 5:00
  stage
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  almost
• 5:01
  all
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  the
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  time.
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  So
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  you
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  are
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  telling
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  stories
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  and
• 5:05
  you're
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  getting
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  your
• 5:06
  audience
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  involved
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  and
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  you
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  want
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  them
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  participant.
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  So
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  I
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  think
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  when
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  I
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  write,
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  I
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  want
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  my
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  readers
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  to
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  be
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  participants
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  in
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  their
• 5:16
  stories.
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  Fantastic.
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  Was
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  that
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  the
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  inspiration
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  behind
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  your
• 5:22
  books,
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  being
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  teacher?
• 5:25
  It
• 5:25
  was
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  very
• 5:26
  big
• 5:26
  inspiration.
• 5:27
  Were
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  all
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  those
• 5:28
  words
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  locked
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  up
• 5:29
  inside
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  you?
• 5:30
  And
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  did
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  you
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  start
• 5:32
  becoming
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  children's
• 5:33
  book
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  author
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  after
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  you,
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  I
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  don't
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  want
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  to
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  say,
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  escaped
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  the
• 5:36
  school
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  life?
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  Teaching
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  was
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  actually
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  the
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  most
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  enjoyable
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  job
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  I
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  ever
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  had.
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  And
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  it
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  wasn't
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  an
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  escape
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  at
• 5:45
  all.
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  In
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  fact,
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  it
• 5:47
  was
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  something
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  that
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  motivated
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  me
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  because
• 5:49
  I
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  still
• 5:49
  wanted
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  to
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  teach,
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  but
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  I
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  decided
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  I
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  would
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  teach
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  through
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  my
• 5:53
  writing.
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  And
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  my
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  books
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  are
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  all
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  research
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  based
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  and
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  they're
• 5:58
  all
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  told
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  through
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  the
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  eyes
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  of
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  the
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  animal
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  and
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  its
• 6:00
  habitat.
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  So
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  they're
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  all
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  thoroughly
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  research
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  based.
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  And
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  I
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  create
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  a
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  story
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  around
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  it.
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  And
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  I
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  chose
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  animals
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  because
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  kids
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  love
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  animals.
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  They
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  love
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  facts,
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  they
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  love
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  learning
• 6:15
  facts.
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  And
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  all
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  do
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  is
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  think
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  about
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  zoos.
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  You
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  love
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  taking
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  your
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  kids
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  to
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  the
• 6:19
  zoos.
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  The
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  kids
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  love
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  to
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  go
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  to
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  the
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  zoos.
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  So
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  that's
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  why
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  I
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  chose
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  the
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  avenue.
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  I
• 6:25
  did.
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  Did
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  you
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  start
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  writing
• 6:26
  your
• 6:27
  children's
• 6:27
  books
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  while
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  were
• 6:29
  still
• 6:29
  active
• 6:30
  as
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  teacher,
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  or
• 6:32
  did
• 6:32
  you
• 6:32
  retire
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  and
• 6:33
  then
• 6:34
  become
• 6:35
  active
• 6:35
  in
• 6:35
  writing?
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  It's
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  funny,
• 6:37
  when
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  was
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  teacher,
• 6:38
  I
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  wrote
• 6:39
  a
• 6:40
  story
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  that
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  I
• 6:42
  never
• 6:42
  published
• 6:43
  and
• 6:44
  it
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  was
• 6:44
  more
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  of
• 6:45
  a
• 6:46
  fantasy
• 6:47
  type
• 6:47
  book.
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  And
• 6:49
  then
• 6:49
  when
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  retired,
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  decided,
• 6:51
  as
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  said,
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  I
• 6:52
  wanted
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  still
• 6:53
  teach.
• 6:53
  So
• 6:54
  that's
• 6:54
  why
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  went
• 6:54
  in
• 6:55
  the
• 6:55
  direction
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  did
• 6:56
  and
• 6:56
  it
• 6:56
  didn't
• 6:57
  start
• 6:57
  immediately
• 6:58
  after
• 6:58
  I
• 6:58
  retired,
• 7:00
  probably
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  few
• 7:01
  years
• 7:01
  after
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  retired.
• 7:03
  What
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  the
• 7:04
  motivation?
• 7:06
  That
• 7:06
  kind
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  kick
• 7:07
  started
• 7:07
  you,
• 7:08
  because
• 7:08
  you
• 7:08
  said
• 7:08
  you,
• 7:09
  it
• 7:09
  took
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  a
• 7:09
  couple
• 7:10
  of
• 7:10
  years
• 7:10
  to
• 7:10
  finally
• 7:11
  get
• 7:11
  yourself
• 7:13
  into
• 7:13
  gear.
• 7:15
  What
• 7:15
  gave
• 7:15
  you
• 7:15
  that,
• 7:16
  that
• 7:17
  motivation
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  finally
• 7:18
  say,
• 7:18
  I've
• 7:19
  got
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  get
• 7:19
  going
• 7:19
  here?
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  think
• 7:22
  it
• 7:22
  was
• 7:23
  after
• 7:23
  you
• 7:24
  retire,
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  enjoy
• 7:26
  life.
• 7:26
  If
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  was
• 7:27
  enjoying
• 7:27
  things,
• 7:27
  doing
• 7:27
  things
• 7:28
  with
• 7:28
  my
• 7:28
  husband,
• 7:29
  going
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  visit
• 7:30
  children
• 7:30
  in
• 7:31
  different
• 7:31
  parts
• 7:31
  of
• 7:31
  the
• 7:32
  state,
• 7:32
  and
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  really
• 7:34
  miss
• 7:34
  kids
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  really
• 7:35
  missed
• 7:36
  writing
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  said,
• 7:37
  I'm
• 7:37
  going
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  do
• 7:37
  it.
• 7:38
  And
• 7:38
  away
• 7:38
  you
• 7:39
  went.
• 7:39
  Exactly.
• 7:40
  Terrific,
• 7:41
  Patty.
• 7:42
  Especially
• 7:42
  with
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  having
• 7:43
  six
• 7:44
  books.
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  love
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  talk
• 7:45
  to
• 7:46
  children's
• 7:46
  book
• 7:46
  authors
• 7:47
  about
• 7:48
  their
• 7:48
  book
• 7:49
  business
• 7:50
  because
• 7:50
  once
• 7:51
  you
• 7:51
  create
• 7:52
  even
• 7:53
  one
• 7:53
  book,
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  now
• 7:54
  have
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  product
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  you
• 7:56
  need
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  market
• 7:56
  it,
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  need
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  sell
• 7:57
  it.
• 7:58
  And
• 7:58
  if
• 7:58
  you
• 7:59
  hope
• 7:59
  it
• 8:00
  doesn't
• 8:00
  take
• 8:00
  up
• 8:00
  all
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  your
• 8:01
  retirement
• 8:02
  funds
• 8:02
  to
• 8:03
  keep
• 8:03
  publishing
• 8:04
  books,
• 8:05
  then
• 8:06
  I'm
• 8:07
  curious,
• 8:07
  what
• 8:07
  does
• 8:08
  your
• 8:08
  children's
• 8:09
  book
• 8:09
  business
• 8:09
  look
• 8:10
  like?
• 8:11
  You're
• 8:11
  right.
• 8:11
  Marketing
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  hardest
• 8:13
  part.
• 8:13
  Writing
• 8:14
  is
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  easiest
• 8:15
  part.
• 8:15
  Marketing
• 8:16
  is
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  hardest
• 8:16
  part.
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  think
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  best
• 8:18
  thing
• 8:19
  that
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  have
• 8:19
  done
• 8:20
  is
• 8:20
  I've
• 8:21
  done
• 8:21
  a
• 8:21
  lot
• 8:21
  of
• 8:22
  school
• 8:22
  visits
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  some
• 8:24
  book
• 8:24
  talks
• 8:25
  at
• 8:25
  libraries
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  stuff
• 8:26
  like
• 8:26
  that
• 8:27
  so
• 8:27
  people
• 8:27
  get
• 8:27
  to
• 8:27
  know
• 8:28
  you.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:30
  usually
• 8:30
  they'll
• 8:30
  buy
• 8:31
  books
• 8:31
  before
• 8:31
  the
• 8:32
  book
• 8:32
  talk.
• 8:32
  So
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  helps.
• 8:33
  Getting
• 8:34
  the.
• 8:35
  Getting
• 8:35
  your
• 8:35
  name
• 8:36
  out
• 8:36
  and
• 8:37
  trying
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  make
• 8:38
  connections
• 8:38
  wherever
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  can
• 8:39
  with
• 8:40
  Amy,
• 8:40
  who's
• 8:40
  made
• 8:41
  connections
• 8:42
  with
• 8:42
  me
• 8:42
  for
• 8:42
  different
• 8:43
  places.
• 8:44
  Terrific.
• 8:45
  When
• 8:45
  you
• 8:45
  talk
• 8:45
  about
• 8:46
  selling
• 8:47
  beforehand,
• 8:48
  do
• 8:48
  you
• 8:48
  do
• 8:48
  it
• 8:49
  yourself
• 8:49
  or
• 8:49
  does
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  company
• 8:51
  that
• 8:51
  Amy,
• 8:51
  your
• 8:51
  book
• 8:52
  publicist,
• 8:52
  works
• 8:53
  for,
• 8:53
  do
• 8:54
  it?
• 8:54
  Do
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  do
• 8:55
  up
• 8:55
  a
• 8:56
  book
• 8:56
  order
• 8:56
  form
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  is
• 8:58
  sent
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  schools
• 9:00
  both
• 9:00
  ways?
• 9:01
  We
• 9:01
  do
• 9:01
  a
• 9:02
  book
• 9:02
  order
• 9:02
  sent
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  schools
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  some
• 9:04
  kids
• 9:05
  will
• 9:05
  choose
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  do
• 9:05
  it
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  way
• 9:06
  and
• 9:06
  some
• 9:07
  parents
• 9:07
  will
• 9:07
  choose
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  do
• 9:08
  it
• 9:08
  that
• 9:08
  way.
• 9:08
  And
• 9:09
  then
• 9:09
  other
• 9:09
  times
• 9:09
  they
• 9:10
  will
• 9:10
  just
• 9:10
  go
• 9:10
  through
• 9:11
  Amazon
• 9:11
  or
• 9:11
  Barnes
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  Noble
• 9:12
  to
• 9:12
  pick
• 9:13
  up
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  book
• 9:13
  and
• 9:13
  then
• 9:13
  bring
• 9:14
  it
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  school.
• 9:15
  How
• 9:15
  do
• 9:15
  you
• 9:15
  encourage
• 9:16
  them
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  go
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  Barnes
• 9:17
  and
• 9:17
  Noble
• 9:17
  or
• 9:18
  Amazon?
• 9:18
  What.
• 9:19
  What
• 9:19
  are
• 9:19
  you
• 9:20
  using
• 9:21
  for
• 9:21
  someone
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  motivate
• 9:23
  someone
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  buy
• 9:24
  your
• 9:24
  book?
• 9:25
  On
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  newsletter
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  will
• 9:26
  write
• 9:27
  you
• 9:27
  can
• 9:28
  purchase
• 9:29
  online
• 9:29
  through
• 9:29
  Amazon,
• 9:30
  Barnes
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  Noble,
• 9:31
  or
• 9:32
  any
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  your
• 9:32
  favorite
• 9:32
  independent
• 9:33
  bookstores.
• 9:34
  Okay.
• 9:35
  You
• 9:35
  have
• 9:35
  your
• 9:36
  books
• 9:36
  in
• 9:37
  three
• 9:37
  different
• 9:37
  formats,
• 9:38
  ebook,
• 9:39
  soft
• 9:40
  cover,
• 9:40
  and
• 9:41
  hardcover.
• 9:42
  Yes,
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  forgot
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  mention
• 9:44
  this,
• 9:44
  but
• 9:44
  I
• 9:45
  did
• 9:45
  purchase
• 9:46
  your
• 9:46
  book.
• 9:47
  Thank
• 9:47
  you.
• 9:48
  Oh,
• 9:48
  you're
• 9:48
  more
• 9:48
  than
• 9:48
  welcome.
• 9:49
  The
• 9:49
  Flamingo
• 9:50
  with
• 9:50
  Two
• 9:50
  Left
• 9:51
  Feet.
• 9:51
  So
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  have
• 9:51
  it
• 9:51
  on
• 9:52
  my
• 9:52
  iPad
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  it
• 9:54
  comes
• 9:54
  up
• 9:54
  beautifully.
• 9:55
  Look
• 9:55
  at
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  colors.
• 9:56
  Are
• 9:56
  quite
• 9:56
  distinctive.
• 9:57
  Come
• 9:58
  out
• 9:58
  nice.
• 9:58
  I
• 9:59
  also
• 9:59
  have
• 9:59
  your
• 10:00
  website
• 10:00
  in
• 10:00
  front
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  Me.
• 10:01
  Talk
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  us
• 10:02
  about
• 10:02
  your
• 10:03
  book
• 10:03
  format.
• 10:04
  So
• 10:04
  how
• 10:04
  are
• 10:04
  you
• 10:04
  using
• 10:06
  each
• 10:06
  of
• 10:06
  your
• 10:06
  book
• 10:07
  formats?
• 10:09
  Basically,
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  decided
• 10:11
  to
• 10:12
  write
• 10:12
  research
• 10:13
  animals
• 10:14
  and
• 10:15
  I
• 10:16
  did
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  lot
• 10:16
  of
• 10:17
  fact
• 10:18
  finding.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:18
  like,
• 10:19
  with
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  flamingo,
• 10:19
  I'll
• 10:20
  start
• 10:20
  with
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  flamingo.
• 10:21
  Okay.
• 10:21
  There
• 10:21
  were
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  lot
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  facts
• 10:22
  that
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  found
• 10:23
  out
• 10:23
  about
• 10:23
  flamingos,
• 10:24
  but
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  fact
• 10:25
  that
• 10:25
  I
• 10:26
  found
• 10:26
  most
• 10:26
  interesting
• 10:27
  is
• 10:28
  they
• 10:28
  dance
• 10:28
  on
• 10:28
  the
• 10:29
  water
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  find
• 10:29
  a
• 10:29
  mate.
• 10:31
  So
• 10:32
  immediately
• 10:32
  my
• 10:32
  brain
• 10:33
  went
• 10:33
  to,
• 10:33
  what
• 10:34
  happens
• 10:34
  if
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  flamingo
• 10:35
  can't
• 10:35
  dance?
• 10:36
  And
• 10:37
  that's
• 10:37
  how
• 10:37
  I
• 10:37
  got
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  title,
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  Flamingo
• 10:39
  with
• 10:39
  Two
• 10:39
  Left
• 10:40
  Feet
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  Fable.
• 10:43
  Part
• 10:43
  of
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  is
• 10:44
  it
• 10:45
  always
• 10:45
  takes
• 10:45
  practice
• 10:46
  and
• 10:46
  patience
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  get
• 10:48
  good
• 10:48
  at
• 10:48
  something.
• 10:49
  There's
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  message
• 10:50
  in
• 10:51
  there
• 10:51
  of
• 10:51
  being
• 10:51
  yourself
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  not
• 10:53
  trying
• 10:54
  to
• 10:54
  be
• 10:54
  somebody
• 10:55
  else.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  a
• 10:56
  good
• 10:56
  sense
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  humor
• 10:57
  also
• 10:57
  helps.
• 10:58
  Did
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  launch
• 10:59
  all
• 10:59
  three
• 10:59
  book
• 11:00
  formats
• 11:00
  at
• 11:01
  the
• 11:01
  same
• 11:01
  time?
• 11:02
  Yes,
• 11:03
  all
• 11:03
  three
• 11:03
  bookmats
• 11:04
  were.
• 11:05
  Yeah,
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  formats
• 11:06
  were
• 11:06
  launched
• 11:07
  at
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  same
• 11:07
  time.
• 11:08
  Do
• 11:08
  you
• 11:08
  also
• 11:09
  use
• 11:09
  ingramsparks
• 11:11
  for
• 11:11
  all
• 11:12
  other
• 11:12
  online
• 11:13
  retailers?
• 11:14
  They
• 11:14
  do,
• 11:14
  yes.
• 11:15
  Especially
• 11:16
  for
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  independent
• 11:17
  bookstores?
• 11:17
  Yes.
• 11:18
  Okay.
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  want
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  talk
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  you
• 11:19
  about
• 11:20
  your
• 11:20
  publishing
• 11:21
  approach
• 11:21
  first
• 11:22
  before
• 11:22
  we
• 11:22
  get
• 11:22
  more
• 11:23
  into
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  details
• 11:23
  of
• 11:24
  your
• 11:24
  book.
• 11:24
  I
• 11:25
  noticed
• 11:25
  with
• 11:26
  your
• 11:26
  books
• 11:27
  you
• 11:27
  use
• 11:28
  either
• 11:28
  Bookside
• 11:29
  Press
• 11:30
  or
• 11:31
  with
• 11:31
  the
• 11:32
  flamenco
• 11:33
  with
• 11:33
  two
• 11:33
  left
• 11:33
  feet.
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  noticed
• 11:34
  you
• 11:34
  used
• 11:35
  Austin
• 11:36
  McCallay.
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:38
  Austin
• 11:38
  McCully.
• 11:39
  They
• 11:39
  were
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  first
• 11:40
  ones
• 11:41
  to
• 11:41
  accept
• 11:42
  my
• 11:42
  book
• 11:43
  and
• 11:44
  do
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  book.
• 11:45
  And
• 11:45
  then
• 11:45
  Bookside
• 11:46
  Press
• 11:46
  approached
• 11:47
  me.
• 11:47
  They
• 11:47
  liked
• 11:48
  books,
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  Flamingo
• 11:49
  with
• 11:49
  Two
• 11:49
  Left
• 11:49
  Feet.
• 11:50
  And
• 11:50
  they.
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  think.
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  don't
• 11:52
  know
• 11:52
  if
• 11:52
  they
• 11:53
  actually
• 11:53
  purchased
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  rights
• 11:54
  or
• 11:54
  whatever,
• 11:55
  but
• 11:55
  they
• 11:56
  wanted
• 11:56
  to
• 11:57
  redo
• 11:58
  it
• 11:58
  or
• 11:58
  something
• 11:58
  like
• 11:59
  that.
• 11:59
  So
• 11:59
  they
• 12:00
  made
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  the
• 12:01
  pictures
• 12:02
  more
• 12:02
  vibrant
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  stuff
• 12:04
  like
• 12:04
  that,
• 12:04
  and
• 12:05
  very
• 12:06
  great
• 12:06
  company.
• 12:06
  So
• 12:07
  I
• 12:07
  went
• 12:07
  with
• 12:07
  Books
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  Press.
• 12:09
  Okay.
• 12:09
  Your
• 12:09
  original
• 12:10
  book,
• 12:11
  your
• 12:12
  first
• 12:12
  book
• 12:12
  was
• 12:12
  Flamingo
• 12:13
  with
• 12:13
  Two
• 12:13
  Left
• 12:14
  Feet.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  you
• 12:15
  got
• 12:15
  yourself
• 12:15
  noticed.
• 12:16
  Were
• 12:16
  they
• 12:16
  a
• 12:17
  hybrid?
• 12:18
  Austin
• 12:18
  Collie.
• 12:19
  Were
• 12:19
  they
• 12:19
  a
• 12:19
  hybrid
• 12:20
  book
• 12:20
  publisher?
• 12:21
  They
• 12:21
  were
• 12:21
  an
• 12:21
  independent
• 12:22
  book.
• 12:22
  Independent.
• 12:23
  Yeah,
• 12:24
  independent.
• 12:24
  And
• 12:24
  then
• 12:25
  what
• 12:25
  happened
• 12:25
  was
• 12:26
  you
• 12:26
  got
• 12:27
  noticed
• 12:28
  by
• 12:28
  Bookside
• 12:29
  Press.
• 12:30
  Right.
• 12:30
  And
• 12:31
  then
• 12:31
  they
• 12:31
  said
• 12:31
  to
• 12:32
  you,
• 12:32
  we
• 12:32
  love
• 12:33
  your
• 12:33
  book.
• 12:33
  We'd
• 12:33
  love
• 12:33
  to
• 12:34
  purchase
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  rights.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  do
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  have
• 12:36
  any
• 12:36
  other
• 12:36
  books
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  your
• 12:38
  drawer?
• 12:38
  Basically,
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  told
• 12:40
  them
• 12:40
  that
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  was
• 12:40
  working
• 12:41
  on
• 12:41
  two
• 12:41
  more
• 12:41
  books,
• 12:42
  and
• 12:42
  they
• 12:43
  made
• 12:43
  me
• 12:43
  a
• 12:44
  great
• 12:44
  offer
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  could
• 12:45
  work
• 12:45
  with.
• 12:46
  Like
• 12:46
  you
• 12:46
  said,
• 12:46
  publishing
• 12:47
  does
• 12:47
  take
• 12:47
  money.
• 12:48
  Is
• 12:48
  Bookside
• 12:49
  Press
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  hybrid
• 12:51
  book
• 12:51
  publisher?
• 12:52
  So
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  have
• 12:54
  some
• 12:54
  financial
• 12:56
  obligations
• 12:56
  to
• 12:57
  them?
• 12:58
  Yes,
• 12:58
  I.
• 12:58
  Yes,
• 12:59
  I
• 13:00
  have
• 13:00
  financial
• 13:00
  obligations
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  them.
• 13:02
  Like
• 13:02
  Amy,
• 13:03
  who
• 13:03
  we
• 13:03
  talked
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  earlier.
• 13:04
  And
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  course,
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  listening
• 13:05
  audience
• 13:06
  wouldn't
• 13:06
  know
• 13:06
  this,
• 13:07
  but
• 13:07
  Patti
• 13:08
  was
• 13:08
  introduced
• 13:08
  to
• 13:08
  me
• 13:09
  by
• 13:09
  Amy
• 13:10
  West.
• 13:10
  She
• 13:11
  worked
• 13:11
  for
• 13:11
  Bookside
• 13:12
  Press.
• 13:12
  Yes,
• 13:13
  she
• 13:13
  Does.
• 13:14
  She's
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  publicist.
• 13:15
  Okay,
• 13:15
  terrific.
• 13:16
  Terrific.
• 13:17
  They
• 13:17
  help
• 13:18
  you
• 13:18
  find
• 13:19
  people
• 13:20
  like
• 13:20
  myself
• 13:20
  who
• 13:20
  have
• 13:20
  a
• 13:21
  podcast
• 13:21
  show
• 13:22
  and
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  come
• 13:23
  on
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  promote
• 13:23
  your
• 13:23
  books.
• 13:24
  I'm
• 13:24
  curious
• 13:26
  because
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  went
• 13:27
  from
• 13:28
  an
• 13:28
  independent
• 13:30
  book
• 13:30
  publisher
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  now
• 13:32
  to
• 13:32
  Bookside
• 13:33
  Press,
• 13:34
  which
• 13:34
  is
• 13:34
  more
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  a
• 13:35
  hybrid
• 13:36
  book
• 13:36
  publisher.
• 13:38
  What
• 13:38
  was
• 13:38
  your
• 13:38
  biggest
• 13:39
  frustration
• 13:40
  in
• 13:40
  your
• 13:40
  book
• 13:41
  publishing
• 13:41
  journey?
• 13:43
  Biggest
• 13:43
  frustration?
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  think
• 13:46
  everybody
• 13:46
  that
• 13:46
  writes
• 13:46
  a
• 13:47
  book,
• 13:47
  every
• 13:47
  author
• 13:47
  wants
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  try
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  get
• 13:49
  picked
• 13:49
  up
• 13:49
  by
• 13:49
  a
• 13:50
  traditional
• 13:50
  publisher.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  without
• 13:53
  an
• 13:53
  agent,
• 13:53
  and
• 13:54
  it's
• 13:54
  hard.
• 13:54
  And
• 13:54
  it's
• 13:55
  hard
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  get
• 13:55
  an
• 13:55
  agent.
• 13:56
  It
• 13:56
  just
• 13:56
  takes
• 13:56
  forever
• 13:57
  because
• 13:57
  as
• 13:58
  you
• 13:58
  said,
• 13:58
  there
• 13:58
  are
• 13:58
  so
• 13:59
  many
• 13:59
  people
• 13:59
  out
• 14:00
  there
• 14:00
  writing
• 14:00
  books.
• 14:01
  So
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  was
• 14:02
  very
• 14:02
  happy
• 14:03
  that
• 14:03
  Bookside
• 14:03
  Press
• 14:04
  has
• 14:05
  picked
• 14:05
  me
• 14:05
  up
• 14:05
  and
• 14:06
  is
• 14:06
  working
• 14:06
  with
• 14:07
  me.
• 14:07
  So,
• 14:08
  yeah,
• 14:08
  there
• 14:08
  are
• 14:08
  frustrations.
• 14:10
  Now,
• 14:11
  after
• 14:11
  publishing
• 14:12
  six
• 14:13
  books,
• 14:13
  does
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  process
• 14:14
  feel
• 14:15
  much
• 14:15
  more
• 14:16
  smooth?
• 14:18
  It
• 14:19
  does
• 14:19
  feel
• 14:20
  smooth.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:20
  I
• 14:21
  know
• 14:21
  they
• 14:21
  have
• 14:22
  also
• 14:22
  sent
• 14:23
  out
• 14:23
  query
• 14:23
  letters
• 14:24
  for
• 14:24
  me
• 14:24
  to
• 14:25
  maybe
• 14:25
  hopefully
• 14:26
  get
• 14:26
  me
• 14:26
  picked
• 14:26
  up
• 14:26
  by
• 14:26
  a
• 14:27
  traditional
• 14:27
  publisher,
• 14:28
  but
• 14:29
  I
• 14:29
  haven't
• 14:29
  heard
• 14:29
  anything
• 14:30
  yet.
• 14:30
  But
• 14:30
  it
• 14:31
  doesn't
• 14:31
  take
• 14:31
  away
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  fact
• 14:32
  that
• 14:32
  I
• 14:32
  still
• 14:32
  like
• 14:33
  writing
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  still
• 14:34
  want
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  write
• 14:34
  more
• 14:34
  books.
• 14:35
  Good
• 14:35
  for
• 14:35
  you.
• 14:36
  Good
• 14:36
  for
• 14:36
  you.
• 14:37
  When
• 14:37
  it
• 14:37
  comes
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  printing,
• 14:40
  is
• 14:40
  it
• 14:40
  strictly
• 14:41
  print
• 14:41
  on
• 14:41
  demand
• 14:42
  or
• 14:43
  how
• 14:43
  are
• 14:43
  you
• 14:43
  doing
• 14:44
  your
• 14:44
  printing
• 14:45
  for
• 14:45
  soft
• 14:46
  cover
• 14:46
  versus
• 14:47
  hardcover?
• 14:48
  Okay,
• 14:49
  that's
• 14:49
  interesting
• 14:50
  because
• 14:50
  I
• 14:50
  just
• 14:50
  had
• 14:50
  to
• 14:51
  order
• 14:51
  more
• 14:51
  books,
• 14:52
  and
• 14:53
  so
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  called
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  number
• 14:55
  at
• 14:55
  Bookside
• 14:55
  Press
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  they
• 14:58
  told
• 14:59
  me
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  orders
• 14:59
  and
• 14:59
  I
• 15:00
  just
• 15:00
  ordered
• 15:00
  soft
• 15:01
  covers.
• 15:01
  This
• 15:01
  time,
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  hardcovers
• 15:03
  don't
• 15:03
  sell
• 15:03
  as
• 15:04
  well
• 15:04
  as
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  soft
• 15:04
  covers.
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  put
• 15:06
  an
• 15:06
  order
• 15:06
  in,
• 15:06
  they
• 15:07
  tell
• 15:07
  me
• 15:07
  what
• 15:08
  my
• 15:08
  price
• 15:08
  is,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  then
• 15:09
  I
• 15:10
  also
• 15:10
  know
• 15:10
  what
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  retail
• 15:11
  price
• 15:11
  of
• 15:11
  the
• 15:11
  book
• 15:12
  is.
• 15:12
  So
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  know
• 15:12
  how
• 15:12
  much
• 15:13
  difference
• 15:13
  there
• 15:13
  is.
• 15:14
  Trying
• 15:15
  to
• 15:15
  think
• 15:15
  what
• 15:15
  else
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  was
• 15:16
  going
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  say
• 15:16
  about
• 15:16
  that.
• 15:17
  I
• 15:17
  don't
• 15:18
  know
• 15:18
  if
• 15:18
  there's
• 15:19
  any
• 15:19
  difference
• 15:20
  between
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  hardcover
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  softcover
• 15:22
  printing
• 15:23
  other
• 15:23
  than
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  price.
• 15:24
  That
• 15:24
  includes
• 15:25
  not
• 15:25
  only
• 15:25
  the
• 15:26
  cost,
• 15:26
  but
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  retail
• 15:27
  price.
• 15:28
  Exactly.
• 15:29
  When
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  finished
• 15:30
  ordering
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  books,
• 15:31
  she
• 15:32
  told
• 15:32
  me
• 15:32
  what
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  price
• 15:32
  was,
• 15:33
  plus
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  tax,
• 15:34
  plus
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  shipping.
• 15:35
  So
• 15:36
  it
• 15:36
  does
• 15:36
  add
• 15:36
  up.
• 15:37
  But.
• 15:37
  But
• 15:37
  hopefully
• 15:38
  I'll
• 15:38
  be
• 15:38
  able
• 15:38
  to
• 15:39
  sell
• 15:39
  those
• 15:39
  books.
• 15:40
  You
• 15:40
  aren't
• 15:40
  using
• 15:41
  Amazon,
• 15:42
  their
• 15:42
  print
• 15:42
  on
• 15:43
  demand
• 15:43
  services?
• 15:44
  No.
• 15:44
  What
• 15:44
  they
• 15:45
  do
• 15:45
  is
• 15:46
  if
• 15:47
  Amazon
• 15:48
  gets
• 15:48
  some
• 15:48
  orders
• 15:49
  and
• 15:50
  that
• 15:50
  for
• 15:50
  my
• 15:50
  book,
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  don't
• 15:52
  know
• 15:52
  if
• 15:52
  they
• 15:52
  go
• 15:52
  through
• 15:52
  books
• 15:53
  I
• 15:53
  press
• 15:53
  or
• 15:53
  they
• 15:53
  have
• 15:54
  their
• 15:54
  own
• 15:54
  printing.
• 15:54
  I'm
• 15:55
  not
• 15:55
  sure
• 15:55
  about
• 15:55
  that.
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  know
• 15:57
  they
• 15:57
  do
• 15:57
  print
• 15:58
  books
• 15:58
  because
• 15:58
  every
• 15:58
  once
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  while
• 15:59
  you'll
• 15:59
  see
• 15:59
  only
• 16:00
  four
• 16:00
  more
• 16:00
  left,
• 16:00
  more
• 16:01
  on
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  way.
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  don't
• 16:02
  know
• 16:02
  who
• 16:02
  prints
• 16:02
  their
• 16:03
  books.
• 16:03
  Okay,
• 16:04
  so
• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
  don't
• 16:05
  know
• 16:05
  if
• 16:05
  Bookside
• 16:06
  Press
• 16:06
  ever
• 16:07
  set
• 16:07
  up
• 16:07
  the
• 16:08
  book
• 16:08
  files
• 16:09
  on
• 16:10
  kdp,
• 16:12
  Right?
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  don't
• 16:13
  know.
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  think
• 16:14
  something
• 16:14
  I
• 16:15
  probably
• 16:15
  could
• 16:15
  ask.
• 16:16
  Yeah,
• 16:17
  no,
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  that's
• 16:17
  fine,
• 16:18
  because
• 16:18
  we
• 16:18
  have
• 16:18
  two
• 16:19
  books
• 16:19
  in
• 16:19
  our
• 16:19
  book
• 16:19
  series.
• 16:20
  We've
• 16:20
  got
• 16:20
  the
• 16:21
  Adventures
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  Caboose,
• 16:22
  the
• 16:22
  Rocky
• 16:22
  Mountain
• 16:23
  Bear.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:23
  then
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  also
• 16:24
  have
• 16:24
  our
• 16:25
  second
• 16:25
  book,
• 16:25
  which
• 16:25
  is
• 16:26
  Hijinks
• 16:27
  from
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  Big
• 16:27
  Head
• 16:27
  Folk
• 16:28
  Music
• 16:28
  Festival.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  we
• 16:30
  had
• 16:30
  our
• 16:30
  own
• 16:31
  book
• 16:31
  formatter
• 16:32
  create
• 16:33
  the
• 16:33
  book
• 16:33
  files
• 16:33
  for
• 16:34
  us,
• 16:34
  which
• 16:35
  then
• 16:35
  I
• 16:35
  uploaded
• 16:36
  to
• 16:36
  kdp.
• 16:37
  Whenever
• 16:38
  we
• 16:38
  need
• 16:39
  physical
• 16:39
  books
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  sell,
• 16:40
  I
• 16:41
  just
• 16:41
  order
• 16:41
  them
• 16:41
  through
• 16:42
  KDP
• 16:43
  and
• 16:44
  away
• 16:44
  we
• 16:44
  go.
• 16:45
  So
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  know
• 16:46
  that
• 16:46
  I
• 16:46
  uploaded
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  files
• 16:48
  because
• 16:48
  our
• 16:48
  book
• 16:49
  formatter
• 16:49
  didn't.
• 16:50
  He
• 16:50
  would.
• 16:50
  But
• 16:50
  it's
• 16:51
  fairly
• 16:51
  simple.
• 16:51
  Once
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  have
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  book
• 16:52
  files
• 16:53
  in
• 16:53
  your
• 16:53
  hot
• 16:54
  little
• 16:54
  hands.
• 16:54
  Now
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  you're
• 16:55
  up
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  six
• 16:56
  books,
• 16:56
  talk
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  us
• 16:57
  about
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  illustration
• 16:59
  and
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  whole
• 17:00
  process.
• 17:01
  About
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  illustrator.
• 17:04
  My
• 17:04
  illustrator
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  Ira
• 17:05
  Kwok,
• 17:06
  and
• 17:07
  she
• 17:07
  is
• 17:07
  with
• 17:08
  Bookside
• 17:08
  Press.
• 17:10
  She's
• 17:10
  amazing.
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  love
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  pictures
• 17:12
  in
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  books
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  illustrations.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:15
  what
• 17:15
  I
• 17:15
  will
• 17:15
  do
• 17:16
  is
• 17:17
  break
• 17:17
  down
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  story.
• 17:18
  They'll
• 17:18
  tell
• 17:19
  me
• 17:19
  how
• 17:19
  many
• 17:19
  illustrations?
• 17:20
  Like
• 17:20
  10
• 17:20
  illustrations,
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  then
• 17:22
  plus
• 17:22
  the
• 17:23
  COVID
• 17:24
  And
• 17:24
  then
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  divide
• 17:25
  up
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  story
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  say,
• 17:26
  okay,
• 17:26
  I
• 17:26
  think
• 17:27
  this
• 17:27
  would
• 17:27
  be
• 17:27
  a
• 17:27
  great
• 17:28
  spot
• 17:29
  for
• 17:29
  an
• 17:29
  illustration.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  what
• 17:30
  I'm
• 17:30
  picturing
• 17:31
  in
• 17:31
  my
• 17:31
  head,
• 17:31
  what
• 17:32
  it
• 17:32
  would
• 17:32
  look
• 17:32
  like.
• 17:33
  So
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  write
• 17:33
  down
• 17:33
  what
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  think
• 17:34
  it
• 17:34
  would
• 17:34
  look
• 17:34
  like,
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  I
• 17:35
  give
• 17:36
  her
• 17:36
  some
• 17:36
  ideas.
• 17:37
  First
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  all,
• 17:38
  she
• 17:38
  sends
• 17:39
  me
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  COVID
• 17:39
  illustration.
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  does
• 17:41
  it
• 17:41
  look
• 17:41
  right?
• 17:41
  What
• 17:42
  do
• 17:42
  you
• 17:42
  want
• 17:42
  me
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  change?
• 17:43
  And
• 17:44
  if
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  need
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  change
• 17:44
  anything,
• 17:45
  she's
• 17:46
  amazing.
• 17:47
  Like
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  flamingo
• 17:48
  with
• 17:48
  two
• 17:48
  left
• 17:49
  feet.
• 17:49
  The
• 17:50
  flamingo
• 17:51
  in
• 17:51
  the
• 17:51
  back
• 17:51
  of
• 17:51
  the
• 17:51
  book
• 17:52
  where
• 17:52
  they
• 17:53
  had
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  baby,
• 17:53
  Philippe
• 17:54
  was
• 17:55
  pink,
• 17:55
  and
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  babies
• 17:56
  are
• 17:57
  grayish
• 17:57
  white.
• 17:58
  And
• 17:59
  so
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  had
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  have
• 18:00
  them
• 18:00
  change
• 18:01
  that.
• 18:01
  And
• 18:01
  right
• 18:01
  away
• 18:02
  they
• 18:02
  changed
• 18:02
  it.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:03
  like
• 18:03
  on
• 18:03
  the
• 18:04
  elephant,
• 18:05
  she
• 18:05
  didn't
• 18:05
  have
• 18:05
  tusks.
• 18:06
  On
• 18:06
  all
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  elephants
• 18:07
  and
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  Savannah
• 18:08
  elephants,
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  all
• 18:09
  have
• 18:10
  tusks,
• 18:10
  whether
• 18:10
  they're
• 18:10
  male
• 18:11
  or
• 18:11
  female.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:12
  she
• 18:13
  put
• 18:13
  in
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  tusk.
• 18:14
  So
• 18:15
  it's
• 18:15
  a
• 18:16
  very
• 18:17
  nice
• 18:18
  cooperation
• 18:18
  that
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  have
• 18:19
  with
• 18:19
  Ira.
• 18:20
  She's
• 18:21
  eager
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  please.
• 18:22
  And
• 18:22
  I
• 18:22
  gotta
• 18:23
  tell
• 18:23
  you,
• 18:24
  her
• 18:24
  illustrations
• 18:25
  make
• 18:25
  my
• 18:26
  stories
• 18:27
  come
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  life.
• 18:28
  Yes.
• 18:28
  With
• 18:28
  an
• 18:28
  illustrator,
• 18:29
  it's
• 18:29
  more
• 18:29
  of
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  partnership.
• 18:31
  It
• 18:31
  is.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:32
  when
• 18:32
  I
• 18:32
  listen
• 18:32
  to
• 18:33
  you
• 18:33
  talk
• 18:33
  about
• 18:34
  your
• 18:34
  illustrator,
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  one
• 18:35
  thing
• 18:35
  I've
• 18:36
  found
• 18:36
  with
• 18:37
  almost
• 18:37
  every
• 18:37
  single
• 18:39
  children's
• 18:39
  book
• 18:39
  author
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  I've
• 18:40
  talked
• 18:40
  to,
• 18:41
  I'm
• 18:41
  around
• 18:41
  100
• 18:42
  children's
• 18:42
  book
• 18:42
  authors,
• 18:43
  is
• 18:44
  that
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  find
• 18:45
  once
• 18:45
  they
• 18:45
  have
• 18:45
  a
• 18:45
  relationship
• 18:46
  with
• 18:47
  their
• 18:47
  illustrator,
• 18:48
  it's
• 18:48
  hard
• 18:49
  to
• 18:49
  let
• 18:49
  go.
• 18:50
  It
• 18:50
  is,
• 18:51
  for
• 18:51
  sure.
• 18:52
  It's
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  neat
• 18:53
  relationship
• 18:53
  that
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  have
• 18:54
  through
• 18:55
  Bookside
• 18:56
  Press
• 18:56
  and
• 18:56
  Aira,
• 18:57
  Because
• 18:57
  I've
• 18:58
  talked
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  some
• 18:58
  children's
• 18:59
  book
• 18:59
  authors
• 19:00
  who
• 19:00
  definitely
• 19:01
  go
• 19:01
  through
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  hybrid
• 19:02
  publishing
• 19:03
  company,
• 19:04
  but
• 19:04
  a
• 19:04
  lot
• 19:04
  of
• 19:05
  times
• 19:05
  they're
• 19:06
  never
• 19:06
  quite
• 19:06
  sure
• 19:07
  who
• 19:07
  their
• 19:07
  illustrator
• 19:08
  is
• 19:09
  when
• 19:09
  it's
• 19:09
  in
• 19:09
  house.
• 19:11
  So
• 19:11
  it's
• 19:11
  nice
• 19:11
  for
• 19:12
  you.
• 19:12
  Just
• 19:12
  so
• 19:12
  you
• 19:12
  know,
• 19:13
  that's
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  very
• 19:13
  special
• 19:14
  relationship.
• 19:15
  Yeah.
• 19:15
  In
• 19:16
  fact,
• 19:16
  when
• 19:16
  I
• 19:17
  did
• 19:18
  some
• 19:19
  more
• 19:19
  books,
• 19:19
  they
• 19:20
  said,
• 19:20
  do
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  want
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  same
• 19:21
  illustrator?
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  said,
• 19:22
  absolutely.
• 19:24
  And
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  nice
• 19:24
  thing
• 19:25
  about
• 19:25
  it
• 19:25
  is
• 19:25
  she's
• 19:26
  been
• 19:26
  able
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  capture.
• 19:27
  Because
• 19:28
  not
• 19:28
  every
• 19:28
  book.
• 19:29
  Do
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  want
• 19:30
  the
• 19:31
  illustrations
• 19:32
  to
• 19:32
  be
• 19:32
  exactly
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  same
• 19:34
  and
• 19:34
  because
• 19:35
  your
• 19:35
  story
• 19:35
  kind
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  drives
• 19:36
  the
• 19:37
  illustrations,
• 19:38
  Right?
• 19:39
  Absolutely.
• 19:40
  Absolutely.
• 19:41
  Like
• 19:41
  with
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  last
• 19:42
  one,
• 19:42
  Ramona
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  Izzy,
• 19:43
  I'll
• 19:43
  be
• 19:43
  here
• 19:43
  for
• 19:43
  you.
• 19:44
  It
• 19:44
  takes
• 19:44
  place
• 19:44
  in
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  Costa
• 19:45
  Rican
• 19:45
  jungle,
• 19:46
  and
• 19:47
  she
• 19:47
  did
• 19:47
  an
• 19:47
  amazing
• 19:48
  job
• 19:48
  of
• 19:48
  having
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  sunlight
• 19:49
  come
• 19:50
  through
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  cecropia
• 19:51
  leaves
• 19:52
  on
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  tree.
• 19:53
  It
• 19:53
  was
• 19:53
  absolutely
• 19:54
  perfect.
• 19:55
  Obviously,
• 19:56
  she
• 19:56
  loves
• 19:56
  working
• 19:57
  with
• 19:57
  you,
• 19:57
  too,
• 19:57
  because
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  put
• 19:58
  that
• 19:59
  much
• 19:59
  into
• 19:59
  it,
• 20:00
  Illustrator
• 20:01
  is
• 20:01
  just
• 20:01
  fantastic.
• 20:02
  And
• 20:02
  we've
• 20:03
  been
• 20:03
  fortunate,
• 20:03
  too,
• 20:04
  because
• 20:04
  with
• 20:05
  our
• 20:05
  two
• 20:05
  children's
• 20:06
  books,
• 20:06
  and
• 20:06
  it's
• 20:07
  a
• 20:07
  book
• 20:07
  series,
• 20:08
  we
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  the
• 20:09
  same
• 20:09
  illustrator.
• 20:10
  The
• 20:10
  beautiful
• 20:11
  thing
• 20:11
  about
• 20:11
  it
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  all
• 20:12
  our
• 20:12
  stories
• 20:13
  take
• 20:13
  place
• 20:14
  in
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  Rocky
• 20:15
  Mountains
• 20:15
  and
• 20:16
  the
• 20:17
  animals
• 20:18
  themselves,
• 20:18
  I
• 20:18
  make
• 20:19
  sure
• 20:19
  that
• 20:19
  they
• 20:20
  are
• 20:20
  animals
• 20:20
  that
• 20:21
  actually
• 20:21
  inhabit
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  Rocky
• 20:23
  Mountains.
• 20:23
  Absolutely.
• 20:24
  Very
• 20:25
  important
• 20:25
  to
• 20:25
  me.
• 20:25
  Now,
• 20:26
  you
• 20:26
  might
• 20:26
  say,
• 20:26
  but
• 20:26
  they're
• 20:27
  illustrations
• 20:27
  of,
• 20:28
  like,
• 20:28
  they're
• 20:29
  almost
• 20:29
  cartoonish.
• 20:30
  That's
• 20:30
  true.
• 20:31
  But.
• 20:32
  But
• 20:32
  there's
• 20:33
  book.
• 20:33
  But
• 20:34
  there
• 20:34
  are
• 20:34
  children's
• 20:35
  book.
• 20:35
  But
• 20:35
  they're
• 20:35
  also
• 20:36
  animals
• 20:36
  that
• 20:37
  are
• 20:37
  conducive
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  area,
• 20:38
  and
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  was
• 20:39
  important
• 20:40
  for
• 20:40
  us,
• 20:40
  so.
• 20:41
  Exactly.
• 20:42
  It's
• 20:42
  nice
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  have
• 20:42
  an
• 20:43
  illustrator
• 20:43
  that
• 20:44
  will
• 20:44
  work
• 20:44
  with
• 20:44
  you
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  make
• 20:45
  that
• 20:45
  happen
• 20:46
  and
• 20:47
  understands
• 20:47
  your
• 20:48
  motivation.
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  also
• 20:49
  am
• 20:49
  interested
• 20:50
  in
• 20:50
  talking
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  about
• 20:51
  your
• 20:52
  website.
• 20:52
  I
• 20:52
  love
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  name
• 20:53
  of
• 20:53
  your
• 20:53
  website,
• 20:54
  so
• 20:55
  tell
• 20:55
  everybody
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  name
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  your
• 20:56
  website.
• 20:57
  Fablesbypattibonesteel.com
• 21:00
  Fantastic.
• 21:01
  And
• 21:01
  Fables.
• 21:02
  You're
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  first
• 21:04
  children's
• 21:04
  book
• 21:04
  author
• 21:05
  that
• 21:05
  I've
• 21:05
  talked
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  that
• 21:07
  has.
• 21:08
  Now
• 21:08
  you've
• 21:09
  incorporated
• 21:09
  your
• 21:10
  own
• 21:10
  name
• 21:11
  into
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  website.
• 21:13
  But
• 21:13
  the
• 21:13
  beautiful
• 21:13
  thing
• 21:14
  about
• 21:14
  it
• 21:14
  is
• 21:14
  I've
• 21:15
  never
• 21:15
  had
• 21:16
  someone
• 21:17
  who's
• 21:17
  a
• 21:17
  children's
• 21:17
  book
• 21:18
  author
• 21:18
  use
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  word
• 21:19
  fables.
• 21:20
  So
• 21:20
  tell
• 21:20
  us,
• 21:21
  what
• 21:21
  motivated
• 21:22
  you
• 21:22
  to
• 21:23
  use
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  word
• 21:24
  fables
• 21:24
  in
• 21:24
  your
• 21:25
  website?
• 21:26
  I'll
• 21:26
  tell
• 21:26
  you.
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  have
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  thank
• 21:27
  Kevin
• 21:28
  Miles
• 21:28
  from
• 21:29
  Bookside
• 21:29
  Press,
• 21:30
  who's
• 21:30
  really
• 21:30
  got
• 21:31
  me
• 21:31
  going
• 21:31
  into
• 21:31
  Bookside
• 21:32
  Press.
• 21:32
  And
• 21:32
  when
• 21:33
  we
• 21:33
  were
• 21:33
  talking
• 21:33
  about
• 21:33
  the
• 21:34
  website,
• 21:35
  we
• 21:35
  were
• 21:35
  bouncing
• 21:36
  around
• 21:36
  all
• 21:36
  different
• 21:37
  kinds
• 21:37
  of
• 21:37
  ideas,
• 21:37
  and
• 21:38
  he
• 21:38
  said,
• 21:38
  your
• 21:38
  books
• 21:39
  really
• 21:39
  are
• 21:40
  told
• 21:40
  through
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  eyes
• 21:41
  of
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  animal.
• 21:41
  He
• 21:41
  said,
• 21:41
  they're
• 21:42
  fables
• 21:42
  And
• 21:42
  I
• 21:42
  said,
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  are
• 21:44
  fables
• 21:44
  because
• 21:44
  there
• 21:44
  is
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  good
• 21:45
  message
• 21:45
  there
• 21:46
  too.
• 21:46
  So
• 21:46
  he
• 21:47
  came
• 21:47
  up
• 21:47
  with,
• 21:48
  how
• 21:48
  About
• 21:48
  Fables
• 21:48
  by
• 21:49
  penbonesteel.com
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  said,
• 21:51
  sounds
• 21:51
  good
• 21:51
  to
• 21:51
  me.
• 21:51
  Yeah,
• 21:52
  no,
• 21:52
  tell
• 21:52
  Kevin,
• 21:53
  great
• 21:53
  idea.
• 21:55
  Told
• 21:55
  him
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  few
• 21:55
  times.
• 21:56
  Okay,
• 21:57
  awesome.
• 21:57
  We're
• 21:57
  both
• 21:58
  on
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  same
• 21:59
  children's
• 21:59
  book
• 21:59
  page
• 22:01
  now.
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  looked
• 22:02
  at
• 22:02
  your
• 22:02
  social
• 22:02
  media
• 22:04
  and
• 22:04
  I
• 22:05
  believe
• 22:05
  you're
• 22:05
  on
• 22:05
  Facebook,
• 22:06
  Instagram
• 22:07
  and
• 22:07
  LinkedIn.
• 22:08
  Uh
• 22:09
  huh.
• 22:09
  The
• 22:10
  one
• 22:10
  thing
• 22:10
  I'm
• 22:10
  curious,
• 22:11
  I
• 22:12
  noticed
• 22:12
  when
• 22:12
  I
• 22:13
  went
• 22:13
  through
• 22:13
  your
• 22:13
  website,
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  couldn't
• 22:15
  find
• 22:15
  your
• 22:15
  social
• 22:16
  media
• 22:16
  links
• 22:17
  on
• 22:17
  your
• 22:18
  website.
• 22:19
  And
• 22:20
  that
• 22:20
  got
• 22:21
  me
• 22:21
  thinking.
• 22:22
  Yeah,
• 22:22
  that
• 22:22
  was
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  I
• 22:23
  said.
• 22:24
  Ah,
• 22:25
  hey,
• 22:25
  Patty,
• 22:27
  that's
• 22:27
  not
• 22:27
  there,
• 22:27
  but
• 22:28
  maybe,
• 22:28
  maybe
• 22:28
  something's
• 22:29
  not
• 22:29
  working.
• 22:29
  It's.
• 22:30
  It
• 22:30
  shows
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  link.
• 22:32
  Okay,
• 22:32
  thank
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  for
• 22:32
  letting
• 22:33
  me
• 22:33
  know
• 22:33
  that.
• 22:33
  So
• 22:34
  normally
• 22:34
  when,
• 22:35
  because
• 22:35
  you
• 22:35
  know
• 22:35
  what
• 22:36
  happens?
• 22:36
  The
• 22:36
  show
• 22:37
  notes,
• 22:37
  I
• 22:37
  always
• 22:37
  go
• 22:38
  and
• 22:38
  I
• 22:39
  grab
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  links
• 22:41
  off
• 22:41
  of
• 22:41
  your
• 22:41
  website
• 22:42
  and
• 22:42
  I
• 22:43
  put
• 22:43
  them
• 22:43
  into
• 22:43
  the
• 22:43
  show
• 22:44
  notes.
• 22:44
  When
• 22:44
  I
• 22:45
  normally
• 22:45
  go
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  a
• 22:46
  children's
• 22:46
  book
• 22:46
  author's
• 22:47
  website,
• 22:49
  they
• 22:49
  have
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  icons
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  Instagram,
• 22:51
  Facebook,
• 22:52
  LinkedIn.
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  just
• 22:53
  click
• 22:54
  on
• 22:54
  it
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  then
• 22:54
  I'm
• 22:55
  able
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  grab
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  link
• 22:56
  and
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  thought,
• 22:57
  okay,
• 22:57
  where's
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  icons
• 22:58
  for
• 22:59
  Patti's
• 23:00
  social
• 23:00
  media?
• 23:00
  I'm
• 23:01
  just
• 23:01
  sharing
• 23:01
  that
• 23:01
  with
• 23:01
  you
• 23:02
  because.
• 23:02
  It's
• 23:02
  part
• 23:02
  of
• 23:03
  it
• 23:03
  on
• 23:04
  my
• 23:04
  page.
• 23:04
  But
• 23:05
  I
• 23:05
  haven't
• 23:05
  looked
• 23:05
  on
• 23:06
  somebody
• 23:06
  else's
• 23:06
  computer.
• 23:08
  That's
• 23:08
  maybe
• 23:08
  it's
• 23:09
  not
• 23:09
  linked.
• 23:09
  I
• 23:10
  have
• 23:10
  to
• 23:10
  check
• 23:10
  my
• 23:10
  husband's
• 23:11
  computer
• 23:11
  later
• 23:11
  and
• 23:11
  see.
• 23:11
  Yeah,
• 23:12
  because
• 23:12
  you
• 23:12
  know
• 23:12
  what,
• 23:13
  I've
• 23:13
  got
• 23:13
  your
• 23:13
  website
• 23:13
  right
• 23:14
  in
• 23:14
  front
• 23:14
  of
• 23:14
  me
• 23:14
  and
• 23:15
  when
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  scroll
• 23:15
  it,
• 23:16
  I
• 23:17
  go
• 23:17
  all
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  way.
• 23:18
  Normally
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  go
• 23:18
  all
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  way
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  bottom.
• 23:21
  And
• 23:21
  if
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  go
• 23:22
  all
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  way
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  bottom
• 23:23
  on
• 23:23
  yours,
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  course
• 23:24
  it
• 23:24
  has
• 23:25
  your
• 23:25
  copyright
• 23:26
  and
• 23:26
  it
• 23:27
  says
• 23:27
  powered
• 23:27
  by
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  then
• 23:28
  it
• 23:28
  has
• 23:29
  Connect
• 23:30
  with
• 23:30
  us
• 23:30
  and
• 23:31
  that
• 23:31
  last
• 23:31
  page,
• 23:32
  usually
• 23:32
  in
• 23:33
  that
• 23:33
  bottom
• 23:34
  footer.
• 23:34
  Okay.
• 23:35
  All
• 23:35
  your
• 23:36
  social
• 23:36
  media
• 23:36
  links,
• 23:37
  there's
• 23:38
  nothing
• 23:38
  there
• 23:39
  anyway,
• 23:39
  I
• 23:40
  share
• 23:40
  that
• 23:40
  out.
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  share
• 23:41
  that
• 23:41
  with
• 23:42
  not
• 23:42
  only
• 23:42
  you,
• 23:43
  but
• 23:43
  anyone
• 23:43
  who's
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  children's
• 23:45
  book
• 23:45
  author.
• 23:45
  Make
• 23:46
  sure
• 23:46
  your
• 23:46
  links
• 23:46
  are
• 23:47
  there
• 23:47
  for
• 23:47
  sure
• 23:47
  because
• 23:48
  Absolutely.
• 23:49
  It's
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  big
• 23:50
  part
• 23:50
  of
• 23:50
  it.
• 23:50
  That
• 23:50
  leads
• 23:51
  me
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  my
• 23:51
  next
• 23:51
  question.
• 23:52
  How
• 23:52
  are
• 23:53
  you
• 23:53
  using
• 23:53
  your
• 23:54
  social
• 23:54
  media
• 23:55
  links
• 23:56
  to
• 23:56
  help
• 23:57
  you
• 23:57
  drive
• 23:58
  book
• 23:58
  sales?
• 23:59
  Okay.
• 24:00
  A
• 24:00
  lot
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  times
• 24:01
  I
• 24:02
  lately,
• 24:03
  through
• 24:03
  Amy
• 24:04
  and
• 24:04
  Jake
• 24:04
  Coleman,
• 24:05
  through
• 24:05
  Bookside
• 24:05
  Press,
• 24:06
  they've
• 24:07
  had
• 24:07
  some
• 24:07
  ideas
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  I
• 24:09
  put
• 24:09
  them
• 24:09
  onto
• 24:09
  social
• 24:10
  media.
• 24:45
  Whether
• 24:45
  it's
• 24:46
  tips
• 24:46
  for
• 24:46
  writing
• 24:47
  for
• 24:47
  children
• 24:48
  or
• 24:49
  whether
• 24:49
  it's
• 24:50
  my
• 24:50
  books
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  some
• 24:51
  of
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  facts
• 24:52
  about
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  interesting
• 24:53
  animals
• 24:54
  or
• 24:54
  some
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  the
• 24:55
  fables
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  animals
• 24:57
  represent,
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  put
• 24:58
  those
• 24:59
  onto
• 24:59
  Facebook
• 25:01
  and
• 25:01
  LinkedIn.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  also
• 25:03
  create
• 25:04
  little
• 25:04
  tiny
• 25:05
  videos
• 25:05
  myself
• 25:06
  by
• 25:07
  taking
• 25:07
  pictures
• 25:08
  from
• 25:08
  the
• 25:09
  illustrator
• 25:10
  and
• 25:10
  putting
• 25:11
  them
• 25:11
  into
• 25:11
  little
• 25:11
  videos
• 25:12
  and
• 25:13
  talking
• 25:13
  through
• 25:14
  it.
• 25:14
  So
• 25:14
  it's
• 25:14
  like
• 25:15
  a
• 25:15
  promotion
• 25:15
  for
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  book.
• 25:17
  Okay,
• 25:17
  terrific.
• 25:18
  Terrific.
• 25:19
  I
• 25:19
  would
• 25:19
  like
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  dig
• 25:20
  a
• 25:20
  little
• 25:20
  deeper
• 25:21
  into
• 25:22
  LinkedIn
• 25:23
  because
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  find
• 25:24
  with
• 25:24
  most
• 25:25
  children's
• 25:25
  book
• 25:25
  authors,
• 25:26
  they're
• 25:27
  very
• 25:27
  good
• 25:28
  at.
• 25:28
  Depending
• 25:29
  on
• 25:29
  how
• 25:29
  old
• 25:29
  they
• 25:30
  are,
• 25:30
  they're
• 25:31
  very
• 25:31
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• 25:31
  either
• 25:31
  with
• 25:32
  Facebook
• 25:33
  or
• 25:33
  if
• 25:33
  they're
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  little
• 25:34
  younger,
• 25:34
  they
• 25:34
  tend
• 25:34
  to
• 25:35
  go
• 25:35
  with
• 25:35
  Instagram.
• 25:36
  And.
• 25:37
  But
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  noticed,
• 25:38
  I
• 25:39
  would
• 25:39
  say
• 25:39
  only
• 25:40
  10%
• 25:40
  of
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  children's
• 25:41
  book
• 25:41
  authors
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  I've
• 25:42
  talked
• 25:42
  to
• 25:43
  actually
• 25:44
  use
• 25:44
  LinkedIn.
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  I
• 25:47
  think
• 25:47
  most
• 25:47
  of
• 25:48
  them
• 25:48
  think
• 25:48
  it's
• 25:48
  a
• 25:49
  business
• 25:50
  social
• 25:50
  media
• 25:50
  platform,
• 25:51
  and
• 25:51
  that's
• 25:52
  why
• 25:52
  they've
• 25:52
  stayed
• 25:52
  away
• 25:52
  from
• 25:53
  it.
• 25:53
  So
• 25:54
  tell
• 25:54
  us
• 25:54
  how
• 25:54
  you're
• 25:55
  using
• 25:55
  LinkedIn
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  promote
• 25:58
  your
• 25:58
  books.
• 25:58
  Basically,
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  same
• 25:59
  way
• 26:00
  that
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  do
• 26:00
  with
• 26:01
  Facebook
• 26:02
  is
• 26:02
  I
• 26:03
  make
• 26:04
  up
• 26:04
  little
• 26:04
  videos
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  put
• 26:05
  them
• 26:05
  on
• 26:06
  and
• 26:06
  people
• 26:07
  will
• 26:07
  recognize
• 26:08
  them.
• 26:08
  And
• 26:08
  then
• 26:08
  hopefully
• 26:10
  go
• 26:10
  to
• 26:10
  my
• 26:10
  website,
• 26:11
  because
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  will
• 26:11
  put
• 26:12
  down
• 26:13
  on
• 26:13
  there
• 26:13
  fablesbypattybonesteel.com
• 26:15
  and
• 26:16
  also
• 26:16
  tell
• 26:16
  them
• 26:17
  that
• 26:17
  you
• 26:17
  can
• 26:17
  go
• 26:17
  to
• 26:18
  Amazon
• 26:19
  Online
• 26:19
  or
• 26:19
  Barnes
• 26:20
  and
• 26:20
  Noble
• 26:20
  Online.
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  also
• 26:22
  know
• 26:23
  that
• 26:23
  there
• 26:23
  are
• 26:23
  LinkedIn
• 26:24
  ads,
• 26:24
  and
• 26:24
  they've
• 26:25
  tried
• 26:25
  to
• 26:26
  get
• 26:26
  me
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  do
• 26:27
  that,
• 26:27
  and
• 26:27
  I
• 26:27
  haven't
• 26:28
  gone
• 26:28
  that
• 26:28
  far
• 26:29
  yet
• 26:29
  because,
• 26:30
  like
• 26:30
  you
• 26:30
  said,
• 26:31
  everything
• 26:31
  costs
• 26:31
  money
• 26:32
  right
• 26:32
  now.
• 26:32
  And,
• 26:33
  yes,
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  got
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  figure
• 26:34
  out
• 26:34
  exactly
• 26:34
  where
• 26:35
  I'm
• 26:35
  going
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  do
• 26:35
  it.
• 26:36
  Like
• 26:36
  just
• 26:36
  purchasing
• 26:37
  some
• 26:37
  books
• 26:37
  the
• 26:38
  other
• 26:38
  day.
• 26:38
  With
• 26:38
  LinkedIn,
• 26:39
  are
• 26:39
  you
• 26:40
  strategically
• 26:41
  joining
• 26:41
  different
• 26:42
  groups?
• 26:43
  Yes,
• 26:43
  children's
• 26:44
  authors
• 26:45
  and
• 26:45
  writers,
• 26:46
  books
• 26:46
  publishers,
• 26:47
  and
• 26:48
  there's
• 26:48
  a
• 26:49
  couple
• 26:49
  other
• 26:49
  ones.
• 26:49
  They
• 26:50
  have
• 26:50
  writing
• 26:51
  groups.
• 26:51
  Yeah,
• 26:52
  the
• 26:52
  one
• 26:52
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• 26:52
  would
• 26:52
  recommend
• 26:53
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• 26:53
  look
• 26:54
  at
• 26:54
  joining,
• 26:55
  because
• 26:56
  a
• 26:56
  lot
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  times
• 26:57
  what
• 26:57
  we
• 26:57
  find
• 26:57
  is
• 26:58
  we're
• 26:58
  all
• 26:59
  joining
• 27:00
  these
• 27:00
  groups
• 27:01
  that
• 27:01
  are,
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  know,
• 27:02
  authors
• 27:03
  or
• 27:03
  illustrators,
• 27:04
  but
• 27:04
  then
• 27:04
  we're
• 27:05
  in
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  same
• 27:06
  pond
• 27:06
  with
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  same
• 27:08
  purpose.
• 27:09
  But
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  find
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  lot
• 27:10
  of
• 27:11
  children's
• 27:11
  book
• 27:12
  authors
• 27:12
  now,
• 27:13
  especially
• 27:13
  with
• 27:13
  you
• 27:14
  having
• 27:14
  a
• 27:14
  teaching
• 27:15
  background,
• 27:15
  are
• 27:16
  starting
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  create
• 27:17
  curriculum
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  support
• 27:19
  their
• 27:19
  book.
• 27:20
  And
• 27:20
  now
• 27:20
  they're
• 27:21
  joining
• 27:21
  groups
• 27:21
  like
• 27:22
  principals
• 27:22
  and
• 27:23
  teachers
• 27:23
  groups
• 27:24
  on
• 27:24
  LinkedIn.
• 27:25
  They're
• 27:26
  actually
• 27:26
  going
• 27:26
  right
• 27:27
  to
• 27:27
  the
• 27:27
  educator
• 27:28
  to
• 27:29
  talk
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  them.
• 27:30
  That
• 27:31
  makes
• 27:31
  sense.
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  think
• 27:32
  it
• 27:32
  does.
• 27:33
  And
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  know
• 27:33
  what?
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  learned
• 27:34
  that
• 27:34
  from
• 27:35
  my
• 27:36
  guests
• 27:36
  coming
• 27:36
  on.
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  would
• 27:38
  recommend
• 27:38
  that
• 27:38
  you
• 27:39
  look
• 27:39
  at
• 27:40
  speaking
• 27:40
  to
• 27:40
  educators,
• 27:41
  especially
• 27:42
  that
• 27:42
  you
• 27:42
  have
• 27:42
  the
• 27:43
  voice
• 27:43
  of
• 27:43
  an
• 27:43
  educator.
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  would
• 27:44
  also
• 27:45
  suggest
• 27:45
  that
• 27:46
  from
• 27:46
  what
• 27:46
  I'm
• 27:46
  hearing
• 27:47
  from
• 27:47
  other
• 27:48
  teachers
• 27:48
  that
• 27:49
  are
• 27:49
  currently
• 27:50
  children's
• 27:50
  book
• 27:50
  authors
• 27:51
  or
• 27:51
  retired
• 27:52
  teachers
• 27:53
  is
• 27:53
  they're
• 27:53
  building
• 27:53
  out
• 27:54
  a
• 27:54
  curriculum
• 27:55
  to
• 27:55
  support
• 27:55
  their
• 27:56
  books.
• 27:56
  And
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  just
• 27:57
  gives
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  an
• 27:58
  extra
• 27:58
  feat,
• 27:59
  added
• 27:59
  bonus
• 28:00
  or
• 28:00
  added
• 28:00
  value.
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  just
• 28:02
  Share
• 28:02
  that
• 28:03
  with
• 28:03
  you.
• 28:03
  That's
• 28:03
  great.
• 28:03
  Thank
• 28:04
  you.
• 28:04
  You're
• 28:04
  more
• 28:05
  than
• 28:05
  welcome.
• 28:06
  I
• 28:06
  want
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  take
• 28:06
  you
• 28:07
  back
• 28:08
  a
• 28:08
  bit
• 28:09
  and
• 28:09
  I
• 28:10
  want
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  know
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  motivation.
• 28:12
  Was
• 28:12
  there
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
  specific
• 28:13
  event
• 28:14
  or
• 28:14
  person
• 28:15
  that
• 28:16
  triggered
• 28:17
  you,
• 28:17
  even
• 28:17
  if
• 28:18
  it
• 28:18
  was
• 28:18
  25
• 28:19
  years
• 28:19
  ago,
• 28:20
  to
• 28:21
  ultimately
• 28:22
  want
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  become
• 28:23
  a
• 28:23
  children's
• 28:23
  book
• 28:23
  authority,
• 28:24
  can
• 28:24
  you
• 28:25
  think
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  that
• 28:25
  person
• 28:25
  or
• 28:26
  event
• 28:26
  that
• 28:26
  triggered
• 28:27
  that?
• 28:28
  I
• 28:28
  don't
• 28:29
  think
• 28:29
  there
• 28:29
  was
• 28:29
  one
• 28:30
  particular
• 28:31
  event.
• 28:32
  I
• 28:32
  just
• 28:33
  really
• 28:33
  enjoyed
• 28:34
  reading
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  my
• 28:35
  kids
• 28:36
  as
• 28:36
  they
• 28:36
  were
• 28:37
  growing
• 28:37
  up,
• 28:38
  sharing
• 28:38
  stories
• 28:39
  with
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  students
• 28:40
  in
• 28:41
  school.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  remember
• 28:44
  one
• 28:44
  specific
• 28:45
  time
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  was
• 28:45
  reading
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  my
• 28:46
  daughter.
• 28:47
  I
• 28:48
  wasn't
• 28:48
  teaching
• 28:49
  yet,
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  she
• 28:50
  was
• 28:50
  in
• 28:50
  kindergarten
• 28:51
  and
• 28:51
  it
• 28:51
  was
• 28:52
  only
• 28:52
  half
• 28:52
  day
• 28:52
  kindergarten.
• 28:53
  She
• 28:53
  was
• 28:53
  in
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  afternoon,
• 28:55
  she
• 28:55
  was
• 28:55
  sitting
• 28:55
  on
• 28:56
  me
• 28:56
  next
• 28:56
  to
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  couch
• 28:57
  and
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  was
• 28:57
  reading
• 28:58
  to
• 28:58
  her.
• 28:59
  And
• 29:00
  all
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  a
• 29:00
  sudden
• 29:01
  she
• 29:01
  said,
• 29:01
  I
• 29:02
  know
• 29:02
  what
• 29:02
  those
• 29:02
  poles
• 29:03
  are
• 29:03
  for.
• 29:03
  She's
• 29:03
  looking
• 29:03
  outside
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  living
• 29:05
  room
• 29:05
  window.
• 29:06
  I
• 29:06
  said,
• 29:06
  you
• 29:07
  do
• 29:07
  know
• 29:07
  what
• 29:07
  those
• 29:08
  poles
• 29:08
  are
• 29:08
  for?
• 29:09
  And
• 29:09
  she
• 29:09
  said,
• 29:10
  yes,
• 29:10
  they're
• 29:10
  to
• 29:10
  hold
• 29:11
  up
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  sky.
• 29:12
  And
• 29:12
  from
• 29:13
  her
• 29:14
  point
• 29:14
  and
• 29:15
  her,
• 29:16
  those
• 29:16
  poles
• 29:17
  were
• 29:17
  to
• 29:17
  hold
• 29:17
  up
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  sky.
• 29:18
  And
• 29:18
  I
• 29:18
  said,
• 29:19
  that
• 29:19
  imagination
• 29:21
  and
• 29:21
  that
• 29:22
  perspective,
• 29:23
  that's
• 29:23
  what
• 29:24
  children
• 29:24
  do.
• 29:26
  And
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  think
• 29:26
  that's
• 29:27
  why
• 29:27
  I
• 29:28
  decided
• 29:29
  I
• 29:29
  really
• 29:29
  want
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  write
• 29:30
  for
• 29:30
  kids.
• 29:32
  It's
• 29:32
  amazing.
• 29:32
  It's
• 29:33
  something
• 29:33
  as
• 29:33
  simple
• 29:34
  as
• 29:34
  that.
• 29:35
  You
• 29:35
  got
• 29:35
  me
• 29:36
  thinking.
• 29:36
  As
• 29:36
  you
• 29:37
  were
• 29:37
  talking
• 29:37
  about
• 29:38
  as
• 29:39
  a
• 29:39
  parent
• 29:39
  and
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  teacher
• 29:41
  and
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  talked
• 29:42
  about
• 29:42
  reading
• 29:42
  to
• 29:43
  both
• 29:43
  your
• 29:44
  children
• 29:44
  and
• 29:45
  your
• 29:45
  students,
• 29:46
  how
• 29:46
  did
• 29:46
  you
• 29:47
  choose
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  books
• 29:49
  to
• 29:49
  read
• 29:50
  to
• 29:50
  them?
• 29:50
  Sometimes
• 29:51
  just
• 29:51
  from
• 29:51
  what
• 29:51
  you
• 29:52
  hear
• 29:52
  from
• 29:52
  other
• 29:52
  parents
• 29:53
  in
• 29:54
  schools,
• 29:54
  there's
• 29:55
  a
• 29:55
  variety
• 29:56
  of
• 29:56
  books,
• 29:57
  sometimes
• 29:58
  a
• 29:58
  kid's
• 29:58
  interest.
• 29:58
  My
• 29:59
  one
• 29:59
  daughter
• 29:59
  was
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  gymnast.
• 30:01
  So
• 30:01
  picking
• 30:02
  up
• 30:02
  little
• 30:02
  books
• 30:03
  like
• 30:03
  that,
• 30:03
  or
• 30:04
  even
• 30:05
  younger.
• 30:05
  The
• 30:06
  kids
• 30:06
  always
• 30:06
  liked
• 30:07
  animals.
• 30:08
  And
• 30:08
  maybe
• 30:09
  that's
• 30:09
  why
• 30:09
  I
• 30:09
  started
• 30:09
  writing
• 30:10
  about
• 30:10
  animals
• 30:11
  too.
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  don't
• 30:11
  know.
• 30:12
  You
• 30:12
  think
• 30:13
  about
• 30:13
  it
• 30:13
  when
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  put
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  video
• 30:15
  on
• 30:15
  in
• 30:15
  science
• 30:16
  class
• 30:16
  even,
• 30:17
  and
• 30:18
  it's
• 30:18
  animal
• 30:18
  related,
• 30:20
  you
• 30:20
  don't
• 30:20
  hear
• 30:21
  sound
• 30:21
  from
• 30:22
  any
• 30:22
  kid.
• 30:22
  They're
• 30:23
  all
• 30:23
  watching
• 30:23
  that
• 30:24
  video.
• 30:25
  Going
• 30:25
  towards
• 30:26
  interest
• 30:26
  of
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  kid
• 30:27
  is
• 30:27
  how
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  picked
• 30:28
  up
• 30:28
  a
• 30:28
  book.
• 30:29
  And
• 30:30
  depending
• 30:31
  on
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  age
• 30:31
  too.
• 30:31
  Because
• 30:32
  when
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  taught
• 30:33
  sixth
• 30:33
  grade
• 30:33
  and
• 30:34
  fourth
• 30:34
  grade,
• 30:34
  it
• 30:35
  was
• 30:35
  a
• 30:35
  lot
• 30:35
  different
• 30:35
  than
• 30:36
  teaching
• 30:36
  second
• 30:36
  and
• 30:37
  third
• 30:37
  grade.
• 30:38
  And
• 30:38
  the
• 30:39
  books
• 30:39
  that
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  read
• 30:40
  to
• 30:40
  your
• 30:40
  class,
• 30:41
  classroom,
• 30:42
  or
• 30:42
  your
• 30:42
  own
• 30:43
  children,
• 30:44
  were
• 30:45
  they
• 30:45
  primarily
• 30:46
  animal
• 30:47
  focused?
• 30:48
  A
• 30:49
  lot
• 30:49
  of
• 30:49
  them
• 30:49
  were
• 30:50
  okay.
• 30:51
  In
• 30:51
  fact,
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  one
• 30:52
  book
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  really
• 30:53
  stuck
• 30:54
  with
• 30:54
  me
• 30:54
  when
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  was
• 30:55
  teaching
• 30:56
  sixth
• 30:56
  grade,
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  one
• 30:57
  and
• 30:58
  only
• 30:58
  Ivan,
• 31:00
  just
• 31:01
  touched
• 31:02
  my
• 31:02
  soul
• 31:02
  about
• 31:02
  this
• 31:03
  gorilla
• 31:04
  that
• 31:04
  was
• 31:04
  in
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  cage.
• 31:05
  And
• 31:06
  it
• 31:06
  just
• 31:07
  sparked
• 31:07
  so
• 31:08
  much
• 31:08
  interest
• 31:09
  in
• 31:09
  me.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  don't
• 31:11
  know.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:12
  think,
• 31:12
  yeah,
• 31:12
  they're
• 31:12
  probably
• 31:12
  a
• 31:13
  lot.
• 31:13
  Of
• 31:13
  animal
• 31:14
  book
• 31:15
  thank
• 31:15
  you
• 31:15
  for
• 31:16
  sharing
• 31:16
  that.
• 31:16
  Let's
• 31:17
  talk
• 31:17
  about
• 31:17
  your
• 31:18
  book,
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  Flamingo
• 31:19
  with
• 31:19
  Two
• 31:19
  Left
• 31:19
  Feet.
• 31:20
  Tell
• 31:20
  us
• 31:20
  about
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  two
• 31:22
  main
• 31:22
  characters,
• 31:23
  Fernando
• 31:24
  and
• 31:24
  Felicity,
• 31:26
  and
• 31:26
  talk
• 31:27
  to
• 31:27
  us
• 31:27
  about
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  character
• 31:28
  development.
• 31:30
  Okay.
• 31:30
  Fernando
• 31:31
  is
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  flamingo
• 31:33
  with
• 31:33
  two
• 31:33
  left
• 31:33
  feet.
• 31:34
  He
• 31:34
  comes
• 31:34
  into
• 31:35
  the
• 31:35
  house,
• 31:36
  he's
• 31:36
  walking
• 31:36
  in,
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  he's
• 31:37
  looking
• 31:38
  down
• 31:38
  at
• 31:38
  his
• 31:38
  feet.
• 31:39
  He's
• 31:39
  so
• 31:39
  upset,
• 31:40
  and
• 31:40
  he
• 31:40
  starts
• 31:41
  screaming,
• 31:42
  no
• 31:42
  flamingo
• 31:42
  will
• 31:43
  ever
• 31:43
  choose
• 31:43
  me.
• 31:44
  And
• 31:45
  his
• 31:45
  mother
• 31:45
  just
• 31:46
  looks
• 31:46
  at
• 31:46
  him
• 31:46
  and
• 31:47
  she
• 31:47
  said,
• 31:47
  what
• 31:47
  are
• 31:48
  you
• 31:48
  talking
• 31:48
  about?
• 31:49
  And
• 31:49
  she
• 31:49
  said,
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  can't
• 31:52
  dance.
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  have
• 31:53
  two
• 31:53
  left
• 31:53
  seats.
• 31:54
  She
• 31:54
  said,
• 31:54
  oh,
• 31:55
  that's
• 31:55
  in
• 31:56
  your
• 31:56
  head.
• 31:56
  And
• 31:57
  he
• 31:57
  goes,
• 31:57
  now
• 31:57
  there's
• 31:57
  something
• 31:58
  wrong
• 31:58
  with
• 31:58
  my
• 31:58
  head.
• 31:58
  And
• 31:59
  she
• 31:59
  says,
• 31:59
  no,
• 32:00
  in
• 32:00
  your
• 32:00
  head.
• 32:01
  So
• 32:01
  she
• 32:02
  tells
• 32:02
  him
• 32:02
  that
• 32:03
  just
• 32:03
  go
• 32:04
  and
• 32:04
  practice,
• 32:05
  practice,
• 32:07
  practice.
• 32:07
  And
• 32:08
  so
• 32:08
  he
• 32:08
  goes
• 32:08
  out
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  he
• 32:09
  starts
• 32:09
  watching
• 32:10
  all
• 32:10
  the
• 32:10
  other
• 32:10
  flamingos.
• 32:11
  They're
• 32:11
  dancing,
• 32:12
  and
• 32:12
  they're
• 32:12
  dancing
• 32:13
  beautifully,
• 32:14
  and
• 32:14
  they're
• 32:15
  lifting
• 32:15
  their
• 32:15
  legs,
• 32:16
  they're
• 32:16
  flapping
• 32:16
  their
• 32:16
  wings,
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  he
• 32:18
  can't
• 32:18
  do
• 32:18
  any
• 32:18
  of
• 32:19
  that.
• 32:19
  So
• 32:19
  finally
• 32:20
  he
• 32:20
  decides,
• 32:20
  okay.
• 32:21
  So
• 32:21
  he
• 32:21
  moves
• 32:21
  over
• 32:22
  into
• 32:22
  a
• 32:22
  secluded
• 32:22
  part
• 32:23
  of
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  pond,
• 32:24
  and
• 32:24
  he's
• 32:25
  starting
• 32:25
  to
• 32:25
  dance.
• 32:26
  He
• 32:26
  lifts
• 32:27
  one
• 32:27
  leg
• 32:27
  and
• 32:28
  lifts
• 32:28
  another
• 32:28
  leg,
• 32:29
  but
• 32:29
  he
• 32:29
  goes,
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  need
• 32:30
  more
• 32:30
  than
• 32:31
  that.
• 32:31
  He
• 32:32
  says,
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  have
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  have
• 32:33
  some
• 32:33
  fancy
• 32:33
  moves.
• 32:34
  Because
• 32:35
  in
• 32:35
  my
• 32:35
  research,
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  found
• 32:36
  out
• 32:36
  that
• 32:37
  the
• 32:38
  flamingos
• 32:38
  with
• 32:39
  more
• 32:39
  expressive
• 32:40
  moves,
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  brighter
• 32:42
  colors,
• 32:42
  they
• 32:42
  are
• 32:43
  chosen.
• 32:44
  So
• 32:44
  he
• 32:44
  says,
• 32:45
  I
• 32:45
  need
• 32:45
  some
• 32:45
  fancy
• 32:46
  moves.
• 32:46
  So
• 32:46
  he
• 32:46
  starts
• 32:47
  once
• 32:47
  a
• 32:48
  fancy
• 32:48
  moves,
• 32:48
  and
• 32:49
  he's
• 32:49
  feeling
• 32:49
  pretty
• 32:49
  good
• 32:50
  about
• 32:50
  himself.
• 32:51
  But
• 32:51
  then
• 32:51
  he
• 32:51
  falls
• 32:52
  face
• 32:52
  first
• 32:52
  into
• 32:53
  the
• 32:53
  water,
• 32:54
  and
• 32:55
  he
• 32:55
  gets
• 32:55
  himself
• 32:56
  up,
• 32:56
  and
• 32:56
  he
• 32:57
  walks
• 32:57
  with
• 32:57
  his
• 32:58
  head
• 32:58
  down
• 32:58
  towards
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  shore.
• 33:00
  And
• 33:00
  there
• 33:00
  are
• 33:00
  some
• 33:01
  other
• 33:01
  flamingos
• 33:02
  on
• 33:02
  the
• 33:02
  shore,
• 33:03
  and
• 33:03
  they
• 33:03
  start
• 33:04
  making
• 33:04
  fun
• 33:04
  of
• 33:04
  him
• 33:05
  and
• 33:05
  bullying
• 33:05
  him.
• 33:06
  There's
• 33:06
  two
• 33:06
  left
• 33:07
  feet,
• 33:07
  Fernando,
• 33:08
  no
• 33:08
  flamingo
• 33:08
  is
• 33:09
  ever
• 33:09
  going
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  choose
• 33:09
  you.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:10
  he's
• 33:11
  feeling
• 33:11
  really
• 33:11
  bad
• 33:12
  about
• 33:12
  himself.
• 33:13
  His
• 33:13
  mom
• 33:13
  comes
• 33:14
  in
• 33:14
  and
• 33:15
  she
• 33:15
  says,
• 33:16
  well,
• 33:16
  Fernando,
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  should
• 33:17
  be
• 33:17
  so
• 33:18
  proud
• 33:18
  of
• 33:18
  yourself.
• 33:19
  He
• 33:19
  said,
• 33:19
  you
• 33:19
  did
• 33:19
  see
• 33:20
  me
• 33:20
  fall,
• 33:20
  right?
• 33:21
  The
• 33:21
  other
• 33:21
  guys
• 33:21
  did.
• 33:22
  And
• 33:22
  she
• 33:23
  said,
• 33:23
  don't
• 33:23
  worry
• 33:23
  about
• 33:24
  them.
• 33:25
  Just
• 33:25
  keep
• 33:25
  practicing.
• 33:27
  He
• 33:27
  practices
• 33:28
  some
• 33:28
  more,
• 33:28
  and
• 33:29
  he's
• 33:29
  really
• 33:29
  good
• 33:30
  now.
• 33:31
  So
• 33:31
  he
• 33:31
  decides
• 33:32
  he
• 33:32
  needs
• 33:32
  more
• 33:32
  pink
• 33:33
  in
• 33:33
  his
• 33:33
  feathers.
• 33:34
  In
• 33:34
  the
• 33:34
  research,
• 33:35
  they
• 33:35
  eat
• 33:35
  more
• 33:35
  shrimp
• 33:36
  and
• 33:37
  plankton.
• 33:37
  These
• 33:38
  feathers
• 33:38
  are
• 33:39
  getting
• 33:39
  better.
• 33:40
  Comes
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  big
• 33:40
  day.
• 33:42
  His
• 33:42
  mother's
• 33:43
  there
• 33:43
  ready
• 33:43
  to
• 33:44
  cheer
• 33:44
  him
• 33:44
  on.
• 33:44
  She
• 33:44
  says,
• 33:45
  you
• 33:45
  should
• 33:45
  be
• 33:45
  so
• 33:45
  proud
• 33:45
  of
• 33:46
  yourself,
• 33:46
  Fernando.
• 33:47
  You've
• 33:47
  worked
• 33:47
  really
• 33:48
  hard.
• 33:49
  All
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  can
• 33:50
  do
• 33:50
  is
• 33:50
  just
• 33:50
  do
• 33:51
  your
• 33:51
  best.
• 33:52
  Nobody
• 33:52
  can
• 33:52
  ask
• 33:53
  for
• 33:53
  more
• 33:53
  than
• 33:53
  your
• 33:53
  best,
• 33:53
  right?
• 33:54
  He
• 33:55
  goes
• 33:55
  out
• 33:55
  and
• 33:55
  he's
• 33:56
  dancing,
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  all
• 33:57
  of
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  sudden
• 33:58
  he
• 33:58
  trips
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  falls.
• 34:00
  And
• 34:00
  his
• 34:01
  colors
• 34:01
  get
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  little
• 34:02
  bit
• 34:02
  more
• 34:03
  brighter
• 34:04
  because
• 34:04
  he's
• 34:04
  embarrassed.
• 34:05
  That
• 34:05
  catches
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  eye
• 34:06
  of
• 34:06
  Felicia.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:08
  Felicia
• 34:08
  flies
• 34:09
  over
• 34:09
  and
• 34:09
  she
• 34:09
  says,
• 34:10
  I
• 34:10
  choose
• 34:10
  you.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  he
• 34:12
  goes,
• 34:13
  why
• 34:13
  would
• 34:13
  you
• 34:14
  choose
• 34:14
  me?
• 34:14
  And
• 34:14
  she
• 34:14
  said,
• 34:15
  you
• 34:15
  were
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  biggest
• 34:15
  splash
• 34:16
  on
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  dance
• 34:16
  floor.
• 34:18
  And
• 34:18
  he
• 34:18
  said,
• 34:19
  oh,
• 34:19
  so
• 34:20
  you
• 34:20
  could
• 34:20
  say
• 34:20
  I
• 34:21
  fell
• 34:21
  for
• 34:21
  you.
• 34:22
  And
• 34:23
  they
• 34:23
  may
• 34:23
  have
• 34:24
  went
• 34:24
  on
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  build
• 34:24
  their
• 34:25
  little
• 34:25
  mud
• 34:25
  mound
• 34:26
  nest,
• 34:26
  which
• 34:26
  is
• 34:27
  researched,
• 34:27
  and
• 34:28
  they
• 34:28
  laid
• 34:28
  their
• 34:29
  one
• 34:29
  egg.
• 34:29
  They
• 34:29
  both
• 34:29
  took
• 34:30
  turns
• 34:30
  sitting
• 34:30
  on
• 34:30
  it.
• 34:31
  And
• 34:31
  30
• 34:31
  days
• 34:31
  later,
• 34:32
  they
• 34:32
  have
• 34:33
  a
• 34:33
  son,
• 34:33
  Felipe,
• 34:34
  and
• 34:34
  he's
• 34:35
  dancing
• 34:35
  with
• 34:36
  Felicia
• 34:37
  and
• 34:37
  Felipe
• 34:38
  a
• 34:38
  couple
• 34:39
  weeks
• 34:39
  later.
• 34:39
  And
• 34:39
  he
• 34:40
  said,
• 34:40
  not
• 34:40
  too
• 34:40
  bad
• 34:41
  for
• 34:41
  flamingo
• 34:42
  with
• 34:42
  two
• 34:42
  left
• 34:42
  feet.
• 34:43
  I
• 34:43
  love
• 34:44
  what
• 34:44
  you've
• 34:44
  done
• 34:45
  in
• 34:45
  terms
• 34:45
  of
• 34:46
  research
• 34:47
  and
• 34:48
  spinning
• 34:49
  that
• 34:49
  into
• 34:49
  a
• 34:50
  children's
• 34:50
  book.
• 34:51
  Yeah.
• 34:51
  Talk
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  us
• 34:52
  about
• 34:52
  how
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  had
• 34:54
  this
• 34:54
  interest
• 34:55
  in
• 34:55
  flamingos.
• 34:56
  But
• 34:57
  how
• 34:57
  did
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  come
• 34:58
  up
• 34:58
  with
• 34:58
  your
• 34:58
  theme?
• 34:59
  Like,
• 34:59
  what
• 34:59
  drove
• 35:00
  the
• 35:00
  theme
• 35:01
  theme
• 35:01
  from
• 35:01
  your
• 35:02
  research?
• 35:03
  Like
• 35:03
  I
• 35:03
  said,
• 35:04
  there
• 35:04
  were
• 35:04
  so
• 35:04
  many
• 35:05
  facts
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  the
• 35:06
  most
• 35:06
  important
• 35:07
  fact
• 35:07
  or
• 35:07
  the
• 35:08
  most
• 35:08
  interesting
• 35:08
  fact.
• 35:08
  I
• 35:09
  won't
• 35:09
  say
• 35:09
  it's
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  most
• 35:09
  important
• 35:10
  fact.
• 35:10
  The
• 35:11
  most
• 35:11
  interesting
• 35:11
  fact
• 35:12
  was
• 35:12
  that
• 35:13
  they
• 35:13
  dance
• 35:13
  on
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  water
• 35:14
  to
• 35:14
  find
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  mate.
• 35:15
  So
• 35:15
  I
• 35:15
  looked
• 35:15
  up
• 35:15
  videos.
• 35:16
  I
• 35:16
  actually
• 35:16
  looked
• 35:17
  up
• 35:17
  videos
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  I'm
• 35:18
  watching
• 35:19
  flamingos
• 35:19
  dance
• 35:20
  on
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  water.
• 35:21
  I
• 35:21
  said,
• 35:21
  this
• 35:21
  is
• 35:22
  really
• 35:22
  cool.
• 35:23
  And
• 35:23
  that's
• 35:23
  what
• 35:24
  was
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  drive
• 35:25
  behind
• 35:25
  it.
• 35:27
  And
• 35:27
  when
• 35:27
  you're
• 35:27
  raising
• 35:28
  kids,
• 35:29
  and
• 35:30
  even
• 35:30
  as
• 35:30
  adults,
• 35:32
  we
• 35:32
  feel
• 35:32
  self
• 35:33
  conscious
• 35:33
  from
• 35:34
  one
• 35:34
  time
• 35:34
  or
• 35:34
  another,
• 35:36
  so
• 35:36
  that's
• 35:36
  something
• 35:37
  that
• 35:37
  you
• 35:37
  try
• 35:37
  to
• 35:38
  help
• 35:38
  kids
• 35:38
  through
• 35:39
  and
• 35:39
  get
• 35:40
  yourself
• 35:40
  through
• 35:40
  sometimes.
• 35:41
  That
• 35:41
  was
• 35:42
  the
• 35:42
  focus
• 35:42
  of
• 35:42
  that
• 35:43
  story,.
• 35:43
  And
• 35:44
  that
• 35:44
  led
• 35:44
  to
• 35:45
  just
• 35:46
  explain
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  central
• 35:47
  lesson
• 35:48
  or
• 35:48
  theme.
• 35:49
  Theme,
• 35:49
  an
• 35:50
  encouraging
• 35:50
  parent
• 35:51
  that's
• 35:52
  there
• 35:52
  to
• 35:52
  help
• 35:52
  the
• 35:53
  child.
• 35:54
  And
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  fact
• 35:55
  that
• 35:55
  it
• 35:55
  does
• 35:56
  take
• 35:56
  practice
• 35:57
  to
• 35:57
  get
• 35:57
  to
• 35:58
  do
• 35:58
  something
• 35:59
  well.
• 36:00
  And
• 36:00
  you
• 36:01
  may
• 36:01
  not
• 36:01
  ever
• 36:01
  reach
• 36:02
  perfection,
• 36:02
  but
• 36:03
  you're
• 36:03
  doing
• 36:03
  the
• 36:04
  best
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  you
• 36:04
  can.
• 36:05
  Also,
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  fact
• 36:06
  that
• 36:07
  Fernando
• 36:07
  has
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  little
• 36:08
  sense
• 36:08
  of
• 36:08
  humor,
• 36:09
  that
• 36:09
  helps
• 36:09
  him
• 36:09
  too.
• 36:11
  Humor
• 36:11
  helps,
• 36:12
  that's
• 36:12
  for
• 36:12
  sure.
• 36:13
  Now
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  you're
• 36:14
  a
• 36:14
  prolific
• 36:15
  writer,
• 36:15
  you're
• 36:16
  up
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  six
• 36:16
  children's
• 36:17
  books,
• 36:17
  which
• 36:17
  is
• 36:18
  phenomenal.
• 36:20
  Can
• 36:20
  you
• 36:20
  share
• 36:20
  some
• 36:21
  of
• 36:21
  your
• 36:21
  insights
• 36:22
  into
• 36:22
  your
• 36:22
  developmental
• 36:23
  process
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  your
• 36:25
  writing
• 36:25
  process
• 36:26
  for
• 36:26
  your
• 36:26
  children's
• 36:27
  books?
• 36:27
  How
• 36:27
  do
• 36:27
  you
• 36:27
  go
• 36:28
  about
• 36:28
  doing
• 36:28
  all
• 36:28
  this?
• 36:29
  Okay,
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  first
• 36:31
  important
• 36:31
  thing
• 36:31
  for
• 36:32
  me,
• 36:32
  since
• 36:33
  I
• 36:33
  want
• 36:33
  my
• 36:33
  books
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  be
• 36:34
  factual,
• 36:35
  is
• 36:36
  that
• 36:36
  I
• 36:36
  have
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  do
• 36:37
  a
• 36:37
  lot
• 36:37
  of
• 36:37
  research.
• 36:38
  And
• 36:38
  when
• 36:38
  I'm
• 36:39
  researching
• 36:39
  something,
• 36:41
  that
• 36:41
  leads
• 36:41
  me
• 36:42
  to
• 36:42
  another
• 36:43
  point
• 36:43
  is
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  research.
• 36:45
  And
• 36:45
  I'm
• 36:46
  constantly
• 36:47
  researching
• 36:48
  facts.
• 36:49
  And
• 36:49
  then
• 36:49
  when
• 36:49
  I
• 36:50
  put
• 36:50
  the
• 36:50
  facts
• 36:50
  down,
• 36:51
  then
• 36:51
  I
• 36:52
  tried
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  decide
• 36:53
  what
• 36:53
  is
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  most
• 36:54
  important
• 36:54
  fact
• 36:55
  that
• 36:56
  I
• 36:56
  want
• 36:57
  a
• 36:57
  child
• 36:57
  to
• 36:58
  learn
• 36:58
  and
• 36:59
  to
• 36:59
  get
• 36:59
  from
• 36:59
  this
• 37:00
  story.
• 37:01
  For
• 37:01
  example,
• 37:03
  Amare,
• 37:04
  big
• 37:04
  surprise.
• 37:05
  It's
• 37:05
  not
• 37:05
  Monkey
• 37:06
  bread.
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  found
• 37:07
  out
• 37:08
  that
• 37:08
  monkey
• 37:08
  bread,
• 37:09
  because
• 37:10
  I
• 37:10
  always
• 37:10
  said
• 37:11
  monkey
• 37:11
  bread
• 37:11
  is
• 37:11
  a
• 37:12
  pull
• 37:12
  apart
• 37:12
  dough.
• 37:14
  So
• 37:14
  monkey
• 37:14
  bread
• 37:15
  is
• 37:15
  actually
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  fruit
• 37:15
  of
• 37:16
  the
• 37:16
  baobab
• 37:16
  tree.
• 37:16
  So
• 37:17
  then
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  had
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  look
• 37:17
  up
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  baobab
• 37:18
  tree.
• 37:19
  Then
• 37:19
  I
• 37:19
  find
• 37:19
  out
• 37:20
  it's
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  tree
• 37:20
  of
• 37:20
  life,
• 37:21
  that
• 37:22
  monkeys
• 37:22
  eat
• 37:22
  it.
• 37:23
  That's
• 37:23
  why
• 37:23
  they
• 37:23
  call
• 37:23
  it
• 37:24
  monkey
• 37:24
  bread.
• 37:25
  But
• 37:25
  the
• 37:25
  elephants
• 37:26
  eat
• 37:27
  the
• 37:27
  fruit
• 37:28
  and
• 37:28
  they
• 37:28
  also
• 37:29
  scrape
• 37:29
  at
• 37:29
  the
• 37:30
  trunk
• 37:30
  to
• 37:30
  get
• 37:30
  water
• 37:31
  in
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  dry
• 37:31
  season.
• 37:32
  And
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  people
• 37:33
  in
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  village
• 37:34
  use
• 37:34
  it
• 37:34
  for
• 37:34
  food
• 37:35
  and
• 37:35
  medicine.
• 37:36
  Okay,
• 37:37
  that's
• 37:37
  something
• 37:37
  I
• 37:37
  want
• 37:37
  to
• 37:38
  put
• 37:38
  into
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  book.
• 37:39
  The
• 37:40
  elephants
• 37:40
  are
• 37:40
  a
• 37:41
  matriarchal
• 37:41
  society.
• 37:42
  Amari,
• 37:43
  she
• 37:44
  loves
• 37:44
  spending
• 37:44
  time
• 37:45
  with
• 37:45
  her
• 37:45
  mom.
• 37:46
  She
• 37:46
  loves
• 37:46
  the
• 37:46
  little
• 37:47
  surprises.
• 37:48
  She
• 37:48
  likes
• 37:48
  the
• 37:48
  figs,
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  mangoes,
• 37:50
  which
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  researched
• 37:51
  her
• 37:51
  fruits
• 37:52
  and
• 37:52
  elephants
• 37:52
  eat.
• 37:53
  And
• 37:54
  she
• 37:54
  said,
• 37:55
  but
• 37:55
  mom
• 37:55
  said,
• 37:55
  it's
• 37:56
  going
• 37:56
  to
• 37:56
  be
• 37:56
  a
• 37:56
  big
• 37:56
  surprise.
• 37:57
  It
• 37:57
  must
• 37:57
  be
• 37:57
  monkey
• 37:58
  bread
• 37:58
  because
• 37:58
  that's
• 37:58
  one
• 37:58
  of
• 37:59
  the
• 37:59
  elephant's
• 37:59
  favorite
• 38:00
  fruits.
• 38:00
  Then
• 38:01
  her
• 38:01
  mother
• 38:01
  tells
• 38:02
  her
• 38:02
  that
• 38:03
  you're
• 38:04
  going
• 38:04
  to
• 38:04
  be
• 38:04
  a
• 38:04
  big
• 38:04
  sister.
• 38:06
  And
• 38:06
  she
• 38:06
  goes,
• 38:06
  I'd
• 38:06
  rather
• 38:07
  have
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  monkey
• 38:07
  bread.
• 38:08
  I
• 38:09
  don't
• 38:09
  want
• 38:09
  to
• 38:09
  be
• 38:09
  a
• 38:10
  big
• 38:10
  sister.
• 38:10
  And
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  mother's
• 38:11
  concerned.
• 38:12
  She
• 38:12
  said,
• 38:13
  why?
• 38:13
  She
• 38:13
  said,
• 38:14
  because
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  won't
• 38:14
  have
• 38:14
  time
• 38:15
  for
• 38:15
  me.
• 38:16
  It's
• 38:16
  one
• 38:16
  of
• 38:16
  those
• 38:17
  things
• 38:17
  where
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  mother
• 38:18
  will
• 38:18
  take
• 38:18
  her
• 38:18
  around
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  water
• 38:19
  hole
• 38:20
  and
• 38:20
  talk
• 38:21
  about
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  family
• 38:21
  and
• 38:22
  how
• 38:22
  they
• 38:22
  were
• 38:22
  there
• 38:23
  for
• 38:23
  her.
• 38:23
  And
• 38:24
  basically
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  theme
• 38:26
  in
• 38:26
  that
• 38:27
  one
• 38:27
  is
• 38:27
  the
• 38:28
  sweetest
• 38:28
  gift
• 38:29
  is
• 38:30
  a
• 38:30
  loving
• 38:30
  family.
• 38:31
  And
• 38:31
  I
• 38:32
  love
• 38:32
  how
• 38:32
  you're
• 38:32
  so
• 38:33
  visual
• 38:33
  with
• 38:33
  your
• 38:34
  words.
• 38:34
  So
• 38:34
  I
• 38:35
  can
• 38:35
  see
• 38:35
  the
• 38:35
  savannah.
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  can
• 38:36
  see
• 38:36
  Costa
• 38:37
  Rica.
• 38:38
  I'm
• 38:38
  curious,
• 38:39
  have
• 38:39
  you
• 38:40
  just
• 38:40
  gone
• 38:40
  there
• 38:40
  in
• 38:41
  your
• 38:41
  creative
• 38:42
  mind
• 38:42
  or
• 38:43
  have
• 38:43
  you
• 38:43
  actually
• 38:43
  visited
• 38:44
  these
• 38:44
  places?
• 38:45
  I've
• 38:45
  actually
• 38:45
  gone
• 38:46
  there.
• 38:46
  My
• 38:46
  creative
• 38:47
  mind
• 38:47
  is
• 38:47
  all.
• 38:48
  That's
• 38:48
  it.
• 38:49
  Is
• 38:49
  it
• 38:49
  motivating
• 38:50
  you
• 38:50
  to
• 38:51
  someday
• 38:51
  do
• 38:51
  and
• 38:52
  go
• 38:52
  visit?
• 38:52
  I
• 38:53
  would
• 38:53
  like
• 38:53
  to
• 38:53
  go
• 38:54
  to
• 38:54
  Costa
• 38:54
  Rica
• 38:54
  to
• 38:55
  find
• 38:55
  those
• 38:55
  sloths.
• 38:56
  I
• 38:56
  really
• 38:57
  would.
• 38:57
  I
• 38:57
  don't
• 38:57
  know
• 38:57
  about
• 38:58
  Africa
• 38:58
  yet,
• 38:58
  but
• 38:58
  Costa
• 38:59
  Rica
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  find
• 38:59
  the
• 39:00
  sloths,
• 39:01
  that'd
• 39:01
  be
• 39:01
  cool.
• 39:02
  When
• 39:02
  I
• 39:02
  do
• 39:02
  the
• 39:03
  research
• 39:03
  though,
• 39:03
  I
• 39:04
  will
• 39:04
  find
• 39:04
  videos
• 39:05
  of
• 39:05
  those
• 39:05
  places
• 39:06
  so
• 39:06
  that
• 39:07
  I
• 39:07
  can
• 39:07
  learn
• 39:07
  more.
• 39:08
  Very
• 39:08
  important.
• 39:09
  Thank
• 39:09
  you
• 39:10
  for
• 39:10
  sharing
• 39:10
  that.
• 39:10
  Because
• 39:11
  that's
• 39:11
  one
• 39:11
  of
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  questions
• 39:12
  I
• 39:12
  do
• 39:12
  talk
• 39:12
  about,
• 39:13
  is
• 39:13
  how
• 39:14
  much
• 39:14
  research
• 39:14
  have
• 39:15
  you
• 39:15
  done
• 39:15
  behind
• 39:15
  your
• 39:15
  books?
• 39:16
  And
• 39:17
  you
• 39:17
  have
• 39:17
  definitely
• 39:18
  got
• 39:18
  a
• 39:19
  firm
• 39:21
  focus
• 39:21
  on
• 39:22
  making
• 39:22
  sure
• 39:23
  that
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  research
• 39:24
  behind
• 39:24
  your
• 39:24
  books
• 39:25
  deliver
• 39:25
  that
• 39:26
  message
• 39:27
  exactly.
• 39:28
  And
• 39:28
  my
• 39:29
  husband
• 39:29
  tells
• 39:29
  me
• 39:29
  that
• 39:30
  I
• 39:30
  can
• 39:30
  wipe
• 39:30
  up
• 39:30
  on
• 39:30
  Jeopardy
• 39:31
  in
• 39:31
  the
• 39:31
  animal
• 39:32
  category.
• 39:33
  I
• 39:33
  want
• 39:33
  to
• 39:33
  take
• 39:33
  you
• 39:34
  on
• 39:34
  a
• 39:34
  little
• 39:34
  journey
• 39:35
  in
• 39:35
  your
• 39:36
  mind.
• 39:37
  So
• 39:37
  we're
• 39:38
  not
• 39:38
  going
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  savannah.
• 39:39
  I
• 39:39
  want
• 39:40
  you
• 39:40
  to
• 39:40
  think
• 39:40
  about
• 39:42
  when
• 39:42
  you
• 39:43
  wrote
• 39:43
  your
• 39:43
  first
• 39:44
  book,
• 39:45
  what
• 39:45
  did
• 39:46
  success
• 39:46
  look
• 39:47
  like
• 39:47
  to
• 39:47
  you
• 39:48
  for
• 39:49
  your
• 39:49
  first
• 39:49
  book?
• 39:50
  How
• 39:50
  did
• 39:50
  you
• 39:50
  envision
• 39:51
  success?
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  guess
• 39:53
  when
• 39:53
  I
• 39:54
  had
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  book
• 39:54
  in
• 39:54
  my
• 39:55
  hand
• 39:56
  and
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  saw
• 39:57
  the
• 39:57
  words
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  the
• 39:58
  pictures
• 39:59
  together,
• 40:00
  I
• 40:01
  thought
• 40:01
  that
• 40:01
  was
• 40:01
  pretty
• 40:02
  cool.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:04
  I
• 40:04
  thought
• 40:05
  it
• 40:05
  was
• 40:05
  a
• 40:05
  success.
• 40:06
  It
• 40:06
  wasn't
• 40:07
  like
• 40:07
  a
• 40:08
  bestseller
• 40:08
  or
• 40:08
  anything
• 40:09
  like
• 40:09
  that,
• 40:09
  or
• 40:10
  it
• 40:10
  wasn't
• 40:10
  with
• 40:10
  a
• 40:10
  traditional
• 40:11
  publisher,
• 40:12
  but
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  me,
• 40:12
  it
• 40:12
  was
• 40:13
  successful.
• 40:13
  I
• 40:14
  was
• 40:14
  able
• 40:14
  to
• 40:14
  put
• 40:15
  those
• 40:15
  words
• 40:15
  on
• 40:15
  a
• 40:16
  page,
• 40:16
  get
• 40:17
  somebody
• 40:17
  to
• 40:17
  illustrate
• 40:18
  it,
• 40:19
  and
• 40:20
  I
• 40:20
  was
• 40:20
  able
• 40:21
  to
• 40:21
  get
• 40:22
  it
• 40:22
  into
• 40:22
  the
• 40:22
  hands
• 40:23
  of
• 40:23
  a
• 40:23
  few
• 40:23
  children.
• 40:23
  And
• 40:24
  that
• 40:24
  made
• 40:24
  me
• 40:24
  feel
• 40:25
  Good.
• 40:25
  Patti,
• 40:26
  over
• 40:27
  90%
• 40:27
  of
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  children's
• 40:28
  book
• 40:29
  authors
• 40:29
  I
• 40:29
  talk
• 40:29
  to,
• 40:30
  that's
• 40:30
  exactly
• 40:31
  their
• 40:31
  motivation.
• 40:33
  And
• 40:33
  that
• 40:33
  was
• 40:33
  our
• 40:33
  motivation
• 40:34
  when
• 40:35
  I
• 40:35
  co
• 40:35
  wrote
• 40:36
  our
• 40:36
  first
• 40:37
  book
• 40:37
  with
• 40:37
  my
• 40:38
  oldest
• 40:38
  granddaughter.
• 40:40
  I
• 40:40
  mean,
• 40:41
  my
• 40:42
  name
• 40:42
  and
• 40:42
  her
• 40:42
  name
• 40:42
  are
• 40:43
  on
• 40:43
  the
• 40:43
  front
• 40:43
  cover
• 40:44
  as
• 40:44
  co
• 40:44
  authors.
• 40:45
  And
• 40:46
  that
• 40:46
  was
• 40:46
  the
• 40:47
  whole
• 40:47
  thing
• 40:47
  for
• 40:47
  us,
• 40:48
  was
• 40:48
  just
• 40:49
  holding
• 40:49
  the
• 40:50
  book
• 40:50
  that
• 40:50
  we
• 40:50
  had
• 40:51
  written.
• 40:52
  And
• 40:53
  we
• 40:53
  had.
• 40:54
  We
• 40:54
  had
• 40:55
  a
• 40:55
  vision
• 40:55
  of
• 40:55
  what
• 40:56
  our
• 40:56
  main
• 40:57
  character,
• 40:57
  Caboose,
• 40:58
  should
• 40:58
  look
• 40:59
  like
• 40:59
  when
• 41:00
  all
• 41:00
  of
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  came
• 41:00
  to
• 41:01
  life
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  we
• 41:01
  were
• 41:01
  able
• 41:02
  to
• 41:02
  have
• 41:02
  it
• 41:03
  in
• 41:03
  our
• 41:03
  hands
• 41:03
  and
• 41:03
  flip
• 41:04
  through
• 41:04
  the
• 41:04
  pages,
• 41:05
  that
• 41:05
  was
• 41:05
  pretty
• 41:05
  successful
• 41:06
  in
• 41:07
  our
• 41:07
  minds.
• 41:08
  Now
• 41:08
  she
• 41:09
  continuing
• 41:10
  with
• 41:10
  her
• 41:10
  writing.
• 41:11
  Yes.
• 41:12
  And
• 41:12
  she's
• 41:13
  helped
• 41:13
  me.
• 41:14
  It's
• 41:14
  interesting
• 41:15
  as
• 41:15
  children.
• 41:15
  And
• 41:16
  when
• 41:16
  I
• 41:16
  started
• 41:17
  this
• 41:17
  whole
• 41:17
  thing
• 41:18
  with
• 41:18
  my
• 41:18
  granddaughter,
• 41:20
  she
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  I
• 41:20
  had
• 41:21
  done
• 41:21
  all
• 41:22
  these
• 41:22
  adventures
• 41:24
  in
• 41:24
  the
• 41:24
  Rocky
• 41:25
  Mountains,
• 41:26
  and
• 41:26
  we
• 41:26
  did
• 41:27
  dog
• 41:27
  sledding,
• 41:28
  we
• 41:28
  did
• 41:28
  skiing,
• 41:29
  we
• 41:29
  did
• 41:30
  horseback
• 41:31
  riding
• 41:31
  in
• 41:31
  the
• 41:32
  winter,
• 41:33
  which
• 41:33
  needed
• 41:33
  special
• 41:34
  horseshoes.
• 41:35
  So
• 41:36
  all
• 41:36
  of
• 41:36
  that
• 41:36
  kind
• 41:36
  of
• 41:37
  stuff
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  triggered
• 41:38
  her
• 41:38
  sanctions.
• 41:39
  And
• 41:39
  I
• 41:39
  had.
• 41:39
  By
• 41:40
  that
• 41:40
  time
• 41:41
  it
• 41:41
  was
• 41:41
  all
• 41:41
  smartphones.
• 41:42
  Right.
• 41:42
  You
• 41:43
  just
• 41:43
  took
• 41:43
  pictures
• 41:44
  with
• 41:44
  your
• 41:44
  smartphone.
• 41:45
  We
• 41:45
  always
• 41:45
  had
• 41:46
  four
• 41:46
  to
• 41:46
  six
• 41:47
  pictures
• 41:47
  of
• 41:47
  these
• 41:48
  adventures.
• 41:48
  And
• 41:49
  she
• 41:49
  said,
• 41:49
  papa,
• 41:50
  instead
• 41:50
  of
• 41:51
  just
• 41:51
  looking
• 41:51
  at
• 41:52
  the
• 41:52
  pictures,
• 41:52
  could
• 41:53
  we
• 41:53
  maybe
• 41:54
  develop
• 41:54
  some
• 41:55
  stories?
• 41:56
  And
• 41:56
  so
• 41:57
  we
• 41:57
  wrote
• 41:57
  our
• 41:57
  first
• 41:57
  story.
• 41:58
  But
• 41:58
  what
• 41:58
  was
• 41:58
  amazing
• 41:59
  is
• 42:00
  after
• 42:00
  we
• 42:00
  wrote
• 42:00
  our
• 42:00
  first
• 42:01
  story,
• 42:01
  she
• 42:01
  said,
• 42:01
  can
• 42:02
  we
• 42:02
  write
• 42:02
  down
• 42:03
  the
• 42:03
  titles
• 42:03
  to
• 42:04
  all
• 42:04
  the
• 42:04
  other
• 42:05
  adventures?
• 42:05
  We
• 42:06
  actually
• 42:06
  wrote
• 42:06
  the
• 42:07
  book
• 42:07
  titles
• 42:08
  to
• 42:08
  about
• 42:08
  25
• 42:09
  stories
• 42:10
  before
• 42:10
  we
• 42:11
  wrote
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  next
• 42:11
  story.
• 42:12
  Oh,
• 42:12
  that's
• 42:13
  awesome.
• 42:13
  Yeah,
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  was
• 42:14
  her
• 42:14
  whole
• 42:15
  idea.
• 42:15
  So
• 42:16
  that's
• 42:16
  great.
• 42:17
  Pretty
• 42:17
  brilliant.
• 42:18
  And
• 42:18
  now
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  have
• 42:19
  five
• 42:20
  grandchildren
• 42:21
  and
• 42:22
  they've
• 42:22
  all
• 42:22
  helped
• 42:23
  be
• 42:24
  co
• 42:24
  authors
• 42:25
  and
• 42:25
  they've
• 42:25
  narrated
• 42:26
  about
• 42:26
  half
• 42:26
  of
• 42:27
  our
• 42:27
  books.
• 42:28
  Because
• 42:29
  we
• 42:29
  don't
• 42:29
  have
• 42:29
  so
• 42:29
  special.
• 42:30
  Yeah,
• 42:30
  we
• 42:30
  don't
• 42:30
  have
• 42:31
  them
• 42:31
  in
• 42:31
  print
• 42:31
  yet
• 42:31
  because
• 42:32
  as
• 42:32
  Patty,
• 42:32
  it's
• 42:33
  not
• 42:33
  inexpensive
• 42:34
  to
• 42:34
  publish
• 42:35
  a
• 42:35
  book,
• 42:35
  so.
• 42:35
  No,
• 42:36
  it's
• 42:36
  not.
• 42:36
  But
• 42:36
  if
• 42:37
  I
• 42:37
  can
• 42:37
  capture
• 42:37
  their
• 42:37
  young
• 42:38
  voices
• 42:38
  and
• 42:39
  get
• 42:39
  them
• 42:39
  narrated,
• 42:40
  then
• 42:40
  down
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  road
• 42:41
  someday,
• 42:42
  if
• 42:42
  we
• 42:42
  publish
• 42:42
  those
• 42:43
  stories,
• 42:43
  we
• 42:44
  have
• 42:44
  their
• 42:44
  young
• 42:45
  voices
• 42:45
  to
• 42:46
  help.
• 42:46
  Oh,
• 42:46
  that's
• 42:47
  so
• 42:47
  nice.
• 42:48
  Yeah.
• 42:48
  Thank
• 42:48
  you.
• 42:49
  Thank
• 42:49
  you
• 42:50
  now,
• 42:50
  I
• 42:50
  want
• 42:50
  to
• 42:51
  bring
• 42:51
  you
• 42:51
  forward
• 42:52
  to
• 42:53
  now,
• 42:53
  because
• 42:53
  now
• 42:54
  you're
• 42:54
  on
• 42:54
  your
• 42:54
  sixth
• 42:55
  book.
• 42:55
  Talk
• 42:56
  to
• 42:56
  us
• 42:56
  about
• 42:56
  what
• 42:57
  success
• 42:58
  looks
• 42:59
  like
• 42:59
  to
• 42:59
  you
• 42:59
  now
• 43:00
  when
• 43:01
  you
• 43:01
  bring
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  book
• 43:02
  to
• 43:02
  market.
• 43:03
  Each
• 43:03
  time
• 43:04
  I
• 43:05
  get
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  new
• 43:05
  book
• 43:06
  again
• 43:06
  with
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  words
• 43:07
  and
• 43:08
  the
• 43:08
  illustrations,
• 43:09
  it's
• 43:10
  still
• 43:10
  like
• 43:11
  a
• 43:11
  new
• 43:12
  gift
• 43:12
  to
• 43:13
  me,
• 43:14
  and
• 43:15
  it's
• 43:15
  still
• 43:15
  special.
• 43:17
  But
• 43:17
  the
• 43:17
  fact
• 43:18
  that
• 43:18
  there
• 43:18
  are
• 43:18
  six
• 43:19
  books
• 43:19
  right
• 43:19
  now,
• 43:20
  and
• 43:20
  I'm
• 43:20
  working
• 43:20
  on
• 43:20
  a
• 43:21
  seventh,
• 43:22
  but
• 43:23
  the
• 43:23
  six
• 43:24
  books,
• 43:25
  and
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  can
• 43:25
  take
• 43:26
  them
• 43:26
  to
• 43:26
  a
• 43:26
  school
• 43:27
  and
• 43:28
  talk
• 43:28
  about
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  books.
• 43:29
  Recently,
• 43:30
  I
• 43:30
  was
• 43:30
  at
• 43:30
  a
• 43:31
  school
• 43:31
  a
• 43:31
  couple
• 43:31
  Fridays
• 43:32
  ago
• 43:33
  and
• 43:33
  I
• 43:33
  was
• 43:34
  pre
• 43:34
  K
• 43:34
  through
• 43:35
  fourth
• 43:35
  grade.
• 43:36
  I
• 43:36
  did
• 43:36
  five
• 43:37
  different
• 43:37
  books
• 43:38
  and
• 43:39
  they
• 43:39
  all
• 43:40
  had
• 43:40
  great
• 43:41
  questions
• 43:42
  and
• 43:42
  were
• 43:42
  all
• 43:43
  eager
• 43:44
  to
• 43:44
  learn
• 43:44
  something
• 43:44
  about
• 43:45
  the
• 43:45
  different
• 43:45
  animals.
• 43:47
  And
• 43:47
  that
• 43:47
  makes
• 43:47
  you
• 43:47
  feel
• 43:48
  good.
• 43:48
  Absolutely.
• 43:49
  I
• 43:49
  went
• 43:49
  and
• 43:49
  did
• 43:50
  a
• 43:50
  book
• 43:50
  reading
• 43:51
  to
• 43:52
  my
• 43:52
  youngest
• 43:52
  grandson's
• 43:53
  class,
• 43:54
  but
• 43:54
  it
• 43:54
  was
• 43:55
  grade
• 43:55
  fives.
• 43:56
  And
• 43:56
  what
• 43:57
  was
• 43:57
  interesting
• 43:58
  is
• 43:59
  they
• 43:59
  were
• 43:59
  more
• 43:59
  interested
• 44:00
  in
• 44:00
  after
• 44:01
  we
• 44:01
  read
• 44:01
  the
• 44:02
  story
• 44:02
  because
• 44:02
  they.
• 44:02
  They
• 44:03
  were
• 44:03
  a
• 44:03
  little
• 44:03
  older
• 44:04
  than
• 44:05
  our
• 44:05
  age
• 44:06
  category,
• 44:06
  but
• 44:07
  they
• 44:07
  were
• 44:07
  more
• 44:08
  interested
• 44:08
  in
• 44:08
  the
• 44:09
  whole
• 44:10
  development
• 44:11
  of
• 44:12
  a
• 44:12
  children's
• 44:12
  book.
• 44:13
  A
• 44:13
  lot
• 44:13
  of
• 44:13
  them
• 44:14
  loved
• 44:14
  the
• 44:14
  illustration
• 44:15
  side
• 44:15
  of
• 44:15
  it,
• 44:16
  and
• 44:16
  they
• 44:16
  didn't
• 44:16
  realize
• 44:17
  until
• 44:17
  we
• 44:17
  started
• 44:18
  talking
• 44:18
  how
• 44:19
  important
• 44:19
  illustrators
• 44:20
  are.
• 44:21
  So
• 44:22
  it's
• 44:23
  just
• 44:23
  incredible
• 44:24
  the
• 44:24
  way
• 44:25
  children's
• 44:25
  minds
• 44:25
  work.
• 44:26
  Yeah.
• 44:26
  When
• 44:27
  you
• 44:27
  are
• 44:27
  with
• 44:27
  the
• 44:28
  older
• 44:28
  kids,
• 44:28
  they
• 44:28
  are
• 44:29
  more
• 44:29
  interested
• 44:30
  in
• 44:30
  developing
• 44:31
  their
• 44:32
  own
• 44:32
  stories,
• 44:33
  and
• 44:33
  they
• 44:33
  do
• 44:33
  ask
• 44:34
  questions
• 44:34
  about
• 44:35
  writing,
• 44:36
  and
• 44:36
  you
• 44:36
  have
• 44:36
  to
• 44:37
  talk
• 44:37
  about
• 44:37
  word
• 44:38
  choice
• 44:38
  and
• 44:38
  character
• 44:39
  development.
• 44:40
  And
• 44:40
  they
• 44:40
  are
• 44:41
  really
• 44:41
  into
• 44:41
  that
• 44:42
  because
• 44:43
  a
• 44:43
  lot
• 44:43
  of
• 44:43
  these
• 44:43
  kids
• 44:44
  have
• 44:45
  things
• 44:45
  that
• 44:45
  they
• 44:45
  want
• 44:45
  to
• 44:46
  write.
• 44:46
  Absolutely.
• 44:47
  And
• 44:47
  they're
• 44:48
  also
• 44:48
  excellent
• 44:49
  proofreaders.
• 44:49
  Because
• 44:50
  when
• 44:50
  you
• 44:51
  do
• 44:51
  an
• 44:51
  audiobook
• 44:52
  and
• 44:53
  your
• 44:53
  grandchild
• 44:54
  is
• 44:54
  reading
• 44:54
  it
• 44:55
  and
• 44:55
  says
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  you,
• 44:56
  papa,
• 44:57
  you
• 44:57
  can't
• 44:57
  use
• 44:57
  this
• 44:57
  word.
• 44:58
  It's
• 44:58
  too
• 44:58
  hard.
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 45:00
  So
• 45:00
  you
• 45:00
  know
• 45:00
  what?
• 45:00
  Yeah.
• 45:01
  When
• 45:01
  you've
• 45:01
  got
• 45:01
  the
• 45:01
  audience
• 45:02
  that
• 45:02
  you're
• 45:03
  writing
• 45:03
  for,
• 45:04
  being
• 45:04
  the
• 45:04
  editor.
• 45:06
  So
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  suggest
• 45:07
  to
• 45:08
  moms
• 45:09
  who
• 45:09
  have
• 45:09
  a
• 45:09
  younger
• 45:10
  family,
• 45:11
  use
• 45:11
  your
• 45:11
  children
• 45:12
  as
• 45:12
  your
• 45:12
  editors.
• 45:14
  Absolutely.
• 45:15
  And
• 45:15
  that
• 45:15
  when
• 45:16
  you're
• 45:16
  doing
• 45:16
  children's
• 45:16
  books,
• 45:17
  you
• 45:17
  write
• 45:17
  shorter
• 45:18
  sentences.
• 45:19
  It
• 45:19
  doesn't
• 45:19
  mean
• 45:19
  you
• 45:19
  can't
• 45:19
  use
• 45:20
  more
• 45:20
  expressive
• 45:21
  words
• 45:21
  and
• 45:21
  throw
• 45:21
  in
• 45:22
  a
• 45:22
  vocabulary
• 45:22
  word
• 45:23
  once
• 45:23
  in
• 45:23
  a
• 45:23
  while
• 45:23
  so
• 45:23
  that
• 45:23
  they
• 45:24
  can
• 45:24
  learn.
• 45:24
  But
• 45:25
  you
• 45:25
  do
• 45:25
  have
• 45:25
  to
• 45:26
  remember
• 45:26
  your
• 45:26
  audience.
• 45:27
  Absolutely.
• 45:29
  Now
• 45:29
  that
• 45:29
  you're
• 45:30
  a
• 45:30
  seasoned
• 45:31
  children's
• 45:31
  book
• 45:31
  author,
• 45:32
  I
• 45:32
  want
• 45:32
  to
• 45:33
  talk
• 45:33
  to
• 45:33
  you
• 45:33
  about
• 45:33
  the
• 45:33
  role
• 45:34
  of
• 45:34
  writing
• 45:34
  in
• 45:35
  your
• 45:35
  life.
• 45:35
  Can
• 45:35
  you
• 45:36
  tell
• 45:36
  us
• 45:36
  what
• 45:38
  being
• 45:38
  a
• 45:39
  children's
• 45:39
  book
• 45:39
  author
• 45:40
  means
• 45:41
  in
• 45:41
  the
• 45:41
  grand
• 45:41
  scheme
• 45:42
  of
• 45:42
  things
• 45:42
  in
• 45:43
  your
• 45:43
  life?
• 45:43
  Now,
• 45:45
  I
• 45:45
  know
• 45:46
  it's
• 45:47
  rewarding,
• 45:47
  maybe
• 45:48
  not
• 45:48
  monetarily.
• 45:50
  Emotionally,
• 45:51
  it's
• 45:51
  wonderful.
• 45:52
  And
• 45:53
  it's
• 45:53
  like
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  legacy
• 45:54
  now
• 45:55
  that
• 45:55
  it's
• 45:55
  something
• 45:56
  that
• 45:56
  I
• 45:56
  can
• 45:56
  pass
• 45:56
  down
• 45:57
  to
• 45:58
  my
• 45:58
  children
• 45:58
  and
• 45:59
  to
• 45:59
  my
• 45:59
  grandchildren.
• 46:00
  Something
• 46:01
  that
• 46:01
  they
• 46:02
  can
• 46:02
  say,
• 46:02
  hey,
• 46:03
  grandma
• 46:03
  wrote
• 46:03
  this,
• 46:04
  my
• 46:04
  mother
• 46:04
  wrote
• 46:05
  this,
• 46:06
  and
• 46:08
  it
• 46:08
  means
• 46:08
  something.
• 46:09
  And
• 46:10
  I
• 46:10
  guess
• 46:11
  for
• 46:11
  me
• 46:11
  too,
• 46:13
  since
• 46:13
  my
• 46:13
  books
• 46:13
  are
• 46:14
  research
• 46:14
  based,
• 46:14
  I'm
• 46:15
  constantly
• 46:16
  learning
• 46:16
  which
• 46:16
  I
• 46:16
  think
• 46:17
  is
• 46:17
  good
• 46:17
  for
• 46:17
  my
• 46:17
  mind.
• 46:19
  And
• 46:20
  also
• 46:21
  being
• 46:22
  older.
• 46:22
  When
• 46:23
  I
• 46:23
  started
• 46:23
  writing
• 46:24
  after
• 46:25
  retiring,
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  got
• 46:26
  this
• 46:27
  mantra
• 46:27
  that
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  use
• 46:28
  from
• 46:28
  CS
• 46:29
  Lewis.
• 46:30
  You're
• 46:30
  never
• 46:30
  too
• 46:31
  old
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  start
• 46:31
  something
• 46:32
  new
• 46:33
  or
• 46:34
  dream
• 46:34
  a
• 46:34
  new
• 46:34
  dream.
• 46:35
  And
• 46:35
  that's
• 46:36
  what
• 46:36
  mine
• 46:36
  is.
• 46:36
  It's
• 46:37
  a
• 46:37
  dream
• 46:37
  that
• 46:37
  I'm
• 46:37
  writing.
• 46:38
  Nice.
• 46:39
  How
• 46:39
  does
• 46:39
  writing
• 46:40
  fit
• 46:40
  into
• 46:40
  your
• 46:41
  life?
• 46:41
  Because
• 46:41
  we
• 46:42
  know
• 46:42
  you've
• 46:42
  mentioned
• 46:43
  you've
• 46:43
  got
• 46:43
  another
• 46:43
  book
• 46:44
  coming,
• 46:44
  so
• 46:45
  talk
• 46:45
  to
• 46:45
  us
• 46:45
  about
• 46:46
  that.
• 46:47
  Writing
• 46:47
  fits
• 46:48
  into
• 46:48
  my
• 46:48
  life.
• 46:48
  Somebody
• 46:48
  asked
• 46:49
  me,
• 46:49
  when's
• 46:49
  your
• 46:49
  best
• 46:49
  time
• 46:50
  to
• 46:50
  write?
• 46:50
  Do
• 46:50
  you
• 46:50
  write
• 46:51
  in
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  morning
• 46:51
  or
• 46:51
  do
• 46:51
  you
• 46:52
  write
• 46:52
  at
• 46:52
  night?
• 46:53
  And
• 46:53
  I
• 46:54
  said,
• 46:55
  my
• 46:55
  brain
• 46:55
  works,
• 46:56
  like,
• 46:56
  all
• 46:57
  day.
• 46:58
  My
• 46:58
  mind
• 46:59
  doesn't
• 46:59
  shut
• 46:59
  off
• 47:00
  and
• 47:01
  my
• 47:01
  husband
• 47:01
  tries
• 47:01
  to
• 47:02
  shut
• 47:02
  it
• 47:02
  off
• 47:02
  before
• 47:03
  we
• 47:03
  go
• 47:03
  to
• 47:03
  bed.
• 47:04
  I'm
• 47:04
  constantly
• 47:05
  thinking
• 47:06
  of
• 47:07
  what
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  do
• 47:07
  next.
• 47:08
  And
• 47:10
  I
• 47:10
  enjoy
• 47:10
  it.
• 47:11
  I
• 47:11
  guess
• 47:12
  I
• 47:13
  just
• 47:13
  like
• 47:13
  to
• 47:13
  keep
• 47:14
  on
• 47:14
  writing.
• 47:15
  And
• 47:15
  it's
• 47:16
  interesting,
• 47:16
  Patty,
• 47:17
  you
• 47:17
  should
• 47:17
  say
• 47:17
  that,
• 47:17
  because
• 47:18
  I've
• 47:18
  had
• 47:19
  people
• 47:19
  tell
• 47:19
  me
• 47:20
  they've
• 47:20
  woken
• 47:20
  up
• 47:20
  in
• 47:21
  the
• 47:21
  middle
• 47:21
  of
• 47:21
  the
• 47:21
  night
• 47:22
  and
• 47:22
  dictated
• 47:24
  a
• 47:24
  complete
• 47:24
  book
• 47:25
  into
• 47:25
  their
• 47:26
  smartphone.
• 47:27
  I've
• 47:27
  talked
• 47:28
  to
• 47:28
  mothers
• 47:28
  who
• 47:28
  have
• 47:29
  dropped
• 47:29
  their
• 47:29
  children
• 47:29
  off
• 47:30
  at
• 47:30
  school,
• 47:31
  and
• 47:31
  as
• 47:32
  they're
• 47:32
  driving
• 47:32
  home,
• 47:33
  they've
• 47:33
  got
• 47:34
  this
• 47:34
  idea
• 47:34
  for
• 47:34
  a
• 47:35
  book
• 47:35
  and
• 47:35
  they
• 47:35
  have
• 47:35
  to
• 47:35
  pull
• 47:36
  over
• 47:36
  to
• 47:36
  the
• 47:36
  side
• 47:36
  of
• 47:36
  the
• 47:37
  road,
• 47:38
  either
• 47:38
  dictated
• 47:39
  or
• 47:39
  write
• 47:39
  it
• 47:40
  down
• 47:40
  or
• 47:40
  whatever.
• 47:41
  You're
• 47:41
  right.
• 47:41
  It's
• 47:42
  that
• 47:42
  inspiration.
• 47:43
  And
• 47:43
  you
• 47:43
  just
• 47:44
  never
• 47:44
  know
• 47:44
  when
• 47:44
  it
• 47:44
  strikes
• 47:46
  exactly.
• 47:46
  I
• 47:47
  was
• 47:47
  going
• 47:48
  one
• 47:48
  way
• 47:48
  from
• 47:48
  my
• 47:49
  seventh
• 47:49
  book.
• 47:50
  I
• 47:50
  was
• 47:50
  thinking
• 47:50
  about
• 47:50
  a
• 47:51
  squirrel
• 47:51
  and
• 47:51
  a
• 47:51
  chipmunk,
• 47:52
  maybe
• 47:52
  because
• 47:52
  they're
• 47:53
  running
• 47:53
  around
• 47:53
  our
• 47:53
  backyard
• 47:54
  all
• 47:54
  the
• 47:54
  time.
• 47:55
  But
• 47:55
  I
• 47:55
  was
• 47:55
  thinking
• 47:56
  about
• 47:56
  something,
• 47:56
  you
• 47:57
  know,
• 47:57
  that.
• 47:58
  And
• 47:58
  they're
• 47:58
  both
• 47:58
  from
• 47:59
  the
• 47:59
  same
• 47:59
  family.
• 48:00
  And
• 48:00
  then
• 48:00
  I
• 48:01
  thought,
• 48:01
  okay,
• 48:02
  I'll
• 48:02
  name
• 48:02
  the
• 48:02
  squirrel
• 48:03
  Sherlock
• 48:03
  and
• 48:03
  the
• 48:03
  chipmunk
• 48:04
  Watson.
• 48:05
  Sherlock
• 48:05
  O.
• 48:05
  Watson.
• 48:06
  And
• 48:06
  the
• 48:07
  food
• 48:07
  stash
• 48:07
  is
• 48:08
  being
• 48:08
  stolen.
• 48:08
  They
• 48:08
  have
• 48:09
  to
• 48:09
  try
• 48:09
  to
• 48:09
  figure
• 48:09
  out
• 48:10
  it's
• 48:10
  getting
• 48:11
  into
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  chipmunks
• 48:11
  burrow.
• 48:12
  But
• 48:13
  then
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  got
• 48:13
  to
• 48:14
  the
• 48:14
  point
• 48:14
  where
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  said,
• 48:15
  okay,
• 48:15
  it's
• 48:15
  cute,
• 48:16
  but
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  really
• 48:16
  don't
• 48:16
  know
• 48:17
  where
• 48:17
  I'm
• 48:18
  actually
• 48:18
  going
• 48:18
  with
• 48:19
  this.
• 48:19
  So
• 48:20
  then
• 48:20
  I'm
• 48:20
  going
• 48:20
  with
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  sea
• 48:21
  otter
• 48:21
  now.
• 48:22
  But
• 48:23
  it's
• 48:23
  everything.
• 48:25
  Like,
• 48:26
  your
• 48:26
  mind
• 48:27
  is
• 48:27
  constantly
• 48:28
  changing.
• 48:28
  You're
• 48:28
  constantly
• 48:29
  thinking
• 48:29
  of
• 48:29
  something
• 48:29
  else
• 48:30
  until
• 48:30
  you
• 48:30
  find
• 48:31
  something
• 48:31
  that
• 48:31
  works.
• 48:31
  When
• 48:32
  I
• 48:32
  thought
• 48:32
  of
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  sea
• 48:33
  otter,
• 48:33
  I
• 48:33
  started
• 48:33
  doing
• 48:34
  research
• 48:34
  and
• 48:34
  I
• 48:34
  go,
• 48:35
  oh,
• 48:35
  my
• 48:35
  gosh.
• 48:35
  And
• 48:36
  I
• 48:36
  started
• 48:36
  writing
• 48:37
  things
• 48:37
  down
• 48:38
  and
• 48:38
  it
• 48:39
  came
• 48:39
  together
• 48:40
  so
• 48:40
  much
• 48:40
  quicker
• 48:41
  than
• 48:41
  the
• 48:41
  squirrel
• 48:41
  and
• 48:41
  the
• 48:41
  chipmunk.
• 48:42
  I
• 48:42
  think
• 48:43
  that's
• 48:43
  where
• 48:43
  I'm
• 48:43
  going
• 48:43
  next.
• 48:44
  And
• 48:45
  you
• 48:45
  know
• 48:45
  what?
• 48:45
  Can
• 48:46
  you
• 48:46
  abandon
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  idea?
• 48:48
  No.
• 48:49
  Said
• 48:49
  decide
• 48:50
  and
• 48:51
  maybe
• 48:51
  something
• 48:52
  triggers
• 48:52
  you.
• 48:53
  And
• 48:54
  I'm
• 48:54
  back
• 48:54
  to
• 48:55
  the
• 48:55
  squirrel.
• 48:55
  Yep.
• 48:56
  Absolutely.
• 48:58
  Advice
• 48:58
  for
• 48:58
  Aspiring
• 49:00
  Authors
• 49:01
  what
• 49:01
  advice
• 49:02
  would
• 49:02
  you
• 49:02
  give
• 49:02
  someone
• 49:03
  who's
• 49:03
  trying
• 49:03
  to
• 49:04
  get
• 49:04
  started?
• 49:05
  Keep
• 49:06
  writing.
• 49:06
  Be
• 49:07
  patient.
• 49:08
  Have
• 49:08
  people
• 49:09
  read
• 49:10
  your
• 49:10
  work
• 49:11
  and
• 49:12
  give
• 49:12
  you
• 49:12
  advice
• 49:13
  and
• 49:14
  be
• 49:14
  ready
• 49:15
  to
• 49:15
  accept
• 49:15
  advice.
• 49:17
  If
• 49:17
  you
• 49:17
  enjoy
• 49:17
  writing,
• 49:18
  keep
• 49:18
  writing.
• 49:19
  Enjoy
• 49:19
  it.
• 49:20
  Excellent.
• 49:21
  And
• 49:21
  what
• 49:21
  keeps
• 49:21
  you
• 49:22
  going
• 49:22
  as
• 49:22
  a
• 49:22
  children's
• 49:23
  book
• 49:23
  authority?
• 49:24
  Because
• 49:24
  I
• 49:25
  love
• 49:25
  children
• 49:25
  and
• 49:26
  I
• 49:27
  love
• 49:27
  to
• 49:27
  see
• 49:27
  them
• 49:28
  learn
• 49:28
  and
• 49:28
  I
• 49:29
  love
• 49:29
  to
• 49:29
  see
• 49:29
  them
• 49:29
  have
• 49:30
  fun.
• 49:30
  I
• 49:30
  think
• 49:31
  children
• 49:31
  learn
• 49:31
  better
• 49:32
  when
• 49:32
  they
• 49:32
  are
• 49:33
  being
• 49:33
  entertained.
• 49:34
  And
• 49:34
  I
• 49:35
  think
• 49:35
  that's
• 49:35
  why
• 49:35
  I
• 49:36
  write
• 49:37
  my
• 49:37
  books
• 49:37
  in
• 49:38
  a
• 49:38
  creative
• 49:39
  way.
• 49:39
  They're
• 49:40
  picking
• 49:40
  up
• 49:40
  the
• 49:41
  facts
• 49:42
  and
• 49:42
  they're
• 49:42
  picking
• 49:43
  up
• 49:43
  messages
• 49:43
  at
• 49:43
  the
• 49:44
  same
• 49:44
  time,
• 49:44
  especially
• 49:45
  when
• 49:45
  they're
• 49:45
  reading
• 49:46
  them
• 49:46
  with
• 49:46
  a
• 49:47
  parent
• 49:47
  or
• 49:47
  a
• 49:48
  educator.
• 49:49
  And
• 49:50
  then
• 49:50
  you
• 49:50
  get
• 49:50
  into
• 49:50
  the
• 49:51
  facts
• 49:51
  and
• 49:51
  then
• 49:51
  you
• 49:52
  find
• 49:52
  out
• 49:52
  more
• 49:52
  facts
• 49:53
  and
• 49:54
  then
• 49:54
  it
• 49:54
  leads
• 49:54
  to
• 49:55
  more
• 49:55
  discussions
• 49:55
  and
• 49:56
  discoveries.
• 49:57
  That's
• 49:58
  terrific
• 49:59
  encouragement
• 50:00
  for
• 50:00
  readers.
• 50:01
  Why
• 50:01
  should
• 50:02
  children's
• 50:02
  book
• 50:03
  readers
• 50:03
  purchase
• 50:04
  your.
• 50:04
  Book
• 50:05
  if
• 50:06
  they
• 50:06
  like
• 50:06
  learning
• 50:07
  and
• 50:07
  they
• 50:07
  like
• 50:07
  having
• 50:08
  fun?
• 50:09
  I
• 50:09
  think
• 50:09
  my
• 50:10
  books
• 50:10
  are
• 50:10
  a
• 50:10
  good
• 50:10
  fit.
• 50:11
  They
• 50:11
  have
• 50:12
  good
• 50:12
  messages
• 50:13
  in
• 50:13
  them,
• 50:13
  but
• 50:14
  the
• 50:14
  facts
• 50:15
  are
• 50:15
  there
• 50:16
  and
• 50:16
  they're
• 50:17
  hubris,
• 50:17
  too.
• 50:18
  Your
• 50:19
  books
• 50:19
  are
• 50:19
  available
• 50:20
  on
• 50:21
  Amazon.
• 50:22
  They're
• 50:23
  available
• 50:23
  on
• 50:24
  Barnes
• 50:24
  and
• 50:24
  Noble.
• 50:25
  Where
• 50:26
  else
• 50:26
  are
• 50:26
  they
• 50:26
  available?
• 50:27
  Any
• 50:28
  independent
• 50:28
  bookstore.
• 50:29
  Okay.
• 50:30
  Terrific.
• 50:30
  Terrific.
• 50:32
  Patty,
• 50:33
  final
• 50:33
  thoughts.
• 50:34
  Is
• 50:34
  there
• 50:34
  something
• 50:34
  you'd
• 50:35
  like
• 50:35
  to
• 50:35
  share
• 50:35
  that
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  you
• 50:37
  might
• 50:37
  have
• 50:37
  said?
• 50:37
  Geez,
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  wish
• 50:38
  Rick
• 50:38
  would
• 50:38
  ask
• 50:39
  me
• 50:39
  that
• 50:39
  question.
• 50:40
  Final
• 50:40
  thoughts?
• 50:42
  I
• 50:42
  can't
• 50:42
  think
• 50:42
  of
• 50:43
  anything.
• 50:43
  You've
• 50:43
  done
• 50:44
  a
• 50:44
  great
• 50:44
  job
• 50:45
  researching
• 50:45
  and
• 50:46
  thank
• 50:46
  you
• 50:47
  very
• 50:47
  in
• 50:47
  depth
• 50:48
  questions.
• 50:49
  I
• 50:49
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• 50:49
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  Patti,
• 50:50
  thank
• 50:51
  you
• 50:51
  so
• 50:51
  much
• 50:51
  for
• 50:51
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• 50:52
  a
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• 50:52
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• 50:52
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• 50:53
  in
• 50:53
  the
• 50:53
  Heart
• 50:53
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• 50:57
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• 50:57
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• 51:27
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• 51:27
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• 51:27
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• 51:28
  Thank
• 51:28
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• 51:28
  Patty.
• 51:30
  Thank
• 51:30
  you
• 51:30
  so
• 51:30
  much
• 51:30
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• 51:31
  having
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  me.