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Mark interviews gossip columnist Rob Shuter. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Live from the WOR LifeVac Studios, Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Rob Shooter, the great gossip, the great columnist, the
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  Speaker 2: great writer. Now, you've got to check out his YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 2: That's Rob Shooter YouTube. And, of course, his sub stack.
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  Speaker 2: You should subscribe to it. It's Naughty But Nice, Rob
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  Speaker 2: Shooter's sub stack. And then get his book. He's written
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  Speaker 2: some great stuff. It started with a whisper, his novel.
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  Speaker 2: There's a new novel coming, and he's with us now.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Shooter, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Mark. How are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 3: It's been a busy, busy couple of days because the
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  Speaker 3: Sussexes are back and pretending this time.
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  Speaker 1: To be royals. Lots of drama over in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the Sussexes sounds very impressive, but then you find
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  Speaker 2: out it's this goofy Harry and Meghan thing. who don't
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  Speaker 2: know what kind of work they're out of. Why did
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  Speaker 2: they come back here? Are they actually making any money here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really curious. So they moved back to Britain
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  Speaker 1: about six weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: It should be noted they have not met or spoken
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  Speaker 3: with the king publicly. I'm told there's been a few
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  Speaker 3: private conversations, but they've not spoken to William since 2022.
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  Speaker 3: So four years ago. There's an ugly rift within this family.
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  Speaker 1: And the queen.
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  Speaker 3: The queen said when they left, when they decided to leave,
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  Speaker 3: it was the queen who said to them, you can't
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  Speaker 3: be half in, you can't be half out. You're either
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  Speaker 3: royals and you do the work or you leave the family.
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  Speaker 1: And they chose to leave the family. However, when they.
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  Speaker 3: Were in California, the two of them realized that they
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  Speaker 3: do not need the palace, the late queen, or anyone
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  Speaker 3: else's permission to masquerade as royals.
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  Speaker 1: He is a prince.
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  Speaker 3: And so on Thursday, they turned up at a couple
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  Speaker 3: of charities in Nottingham, and it looked very much.
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  Speaker 1: Like a royal visit, if you've seen the photographs. They
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  Speaker 1: had some crowds outside, not large crowds, but they were
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  Speaker 1: not nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And they did a walkabout, they met fans, they took selfies,
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  Speaker 3: they kissed.
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  Speaker 1: Babies, and then they left. And this is what they missed.
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  Speaker 1: In Britain, to be a prince, to be a member
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  Speaker 1: of the royal family, it means a lot. People on
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  Speaker 1: the high street, people in Britain... love these royals.
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  Speaker 3: And they want to get any taste of it, any
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  Speaker 3: closeness they can.
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  Speaker 1: Here, it didn't matter. Harry walking into a Starbucks as
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  Speaker 1: a prince, nobody cared about that here. He missed that.
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  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't?
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  Speaker 3: And so they're back in Britain being royals.
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  Speaker 1: And the palace has a real problem on their hands here, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: because how do they stop them? You can't stop private
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  Speaker 1: individuals doing charity events. So they're probably just going to
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  Speaker 1: have to put up with this.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Rob Shooter, nothing personal, but what the hell does
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  Speaker 2: this royal family actually mean anyway? What do they really do?
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  Speaker 2: What is the purpose of it?
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  Speaker 1: This is why your shows are hit. You just get
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  Speaker 1: to the chase. They do absolutely nothing. There is no
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  Speaker 1: purpose to it. It is a reality show. It is
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  Speaker 1: very comforting.
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  Speaker 3: Older people will say that they have fond memories.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Queen.
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  Speaker 3: But I think for a new generation, William knows that
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  Speaker 3: changes are going to have to be made. Gone are
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  Speaker 3: the days when you can be born into a position
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  Speaker 3: of great power and privilege and expect everybody to bow
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  Speaker 3: and curtsy.
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  Speaker 1: Now you have to earn that right.
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  Speaker 3: And they haven't done that for generations. And so it's
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  Speaker 3: really complicated, this new world that we.
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  Speaker 1: Do live in.
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  Speaker 3: We want people running the show in charge who we pick,
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  Speaker 3: who we elect. God forbid that if Harry had been
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  Speaker 3: born first, Harry would be the next king. And so
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  Speaker 3: it's just a real, really dodgy system. It's a system
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  Speaker 3: that's based on luck. And so far, Britain's had some
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  Speaker 3: good kings, some bad kings, some good queens, some bad queens.
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  Speaker 3: But now I think the public, for the first time ever,
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  Speaker 3: at least in my lifetime, the opinion polls over there
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  Speaker 3: are 50-50 for.
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  Speaker 1: And against the monarchy. And so, yeah, they've got.
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  Speaker 3: To get their act together. They cost a ton of money.
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  Speaker 3: And the Brits are asking the same question you just asked,
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  Speaker 3: which is, what do we get for all this money
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  Speaker 3: we spend on them?
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  Speaker 2: You know what the real problem is? I could see
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  Speaker 2: years ago Diana or somebody like that. It was glamorous.
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  Speaker 2: Look how glamorous she looks. Look what she's wearing. Look
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  Speaker 2: what restaurant she went to. Look what she's doing. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a million people on Instagram now that do that.
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  Speaker 2: Every influencer. So what the hell do we need them
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  Speaker 2: for anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right to it. The world has changed.
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  Speaker 3: And I think social media and Instagram, it's changed the
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  Speaker 3: way that we connect with people. I'm told that when
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  Speaker 3: William's king and his dad is, you know, is.
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  Speaker 1: Recovering from cancer, we wish him nothing but the best.
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  Speaker 3: But William will be the next king forever. of England, major,
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  Speaker 3: major changes are going to be made. I'm told that
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  Speaker 3: Buckingham Palace will no longer be a palace. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a museum or they're going to turn it
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  Speaker 3: back to the public.
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  Speaker 1: They want, yeah, they want the tourists. They understand that
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  Speaker 1: having a king or a queen brings tourists in, the
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  Speaker 1: trooping of the colour, the guards outside the palace. It's
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  Speaker 1: all lovely to see.
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  Speaker 3: It's all history, but it doesn't really have a function anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And so William's going to really streamline it and William's
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  Speaker 3: going to cut off a lot of those royals who
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  Speaker 3: are on the gravy train. So when William's king, things
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  Speaker 3: will change.
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  Speaker 1: But for the next.
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  Speaker 3: Few years, while his dad's on the throne, Harry's going
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  Speaker 3: to do whatever the hell he wants. There's nothing they
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  Speaker 3: can do about it.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Shooter has a new novel. You can pre-order it
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  Speaker 2: right now. You should. He's got great books. The new
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  Speaker 2: novel is Queen Elizabeth III. Tell us, what is this
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  Speaker 2: book about? Tell us.
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  Speaker 1: So what this book's about is it's set 15 years
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  Speaker 1: in the future.
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  Speaker 3: So fast forward, 15 years and I write a novel
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  Speaker 3: with a new queen on the throne and it's not
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  Speaker 3: who you think it is.
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  Speaker 1: There is a disaster. There's an abdication. There's decisions that are.
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  Speaker 3: Made and it turns the royal family upside down and
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  Speaker 3: And so in 15 years from now, it's not William,
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  Speaker 3: it's not William's children. I have a young lady who
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  Speaker 3: suddenly becomes queen through really exceptional circumstances and what that
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  Speaker 3: looks like. And so it's a fun, it's novel, it's
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  Speaker 3: all fiction. None of this is going to happen. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want any of this to happen, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a real story about families. You know, they're the
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  Speaker 3: most famous family in the world and that family is.
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  Speaker 1: A family business. And anybody who's ever worked in the
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  Speaker 1: family business, it can be really difficult.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a story about what it's like to work
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  Speaker 3: with your relatives, a bit jealous. You know, is it
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  Speaker 3: possible for a mother.
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  Speaker 1: To be jealous of her daughter? What happens with that?
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  Speaker 3: Is it possible to find love, to have any normality
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  Speaker 3: in your life if you're the Queen of England? And
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  Speaker 3: so it's a really fun family drama that just happens
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  Speaker 3: to be set within the most famous family in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, everybody go pre-order. It's a new novel, Queen Elizabeth III.
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  Speaker 2: It's by Rob Shooter. Pre-order it right now. Hey, this
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  Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson thing was the stupidest story I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you go into certain stores, they got something
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  Speaker 2: on the wall that's amazing, but it's part of their decor.
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  Speaker 2: It's not for sale. What didn't she grasp about that?
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  Speaker 1: And she didn't get her own way. So she turned
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  Speaker 1: up in Brooklyn. And I'm sure anyone that's been into
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  Speaker 1: a store in Brooklyn, they're kind of hip and cool.
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  Speaker 1: They're a little too cool for school. And there's always
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an attitude. I was in Brooklyn
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weekends ago, and I went to get
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  Speaker 1: a cup of coffee and a bagel. And I just
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  Speaker 1: wasn't cool enough for the store, and they let me
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  Speaker 1: know it. So there's something about Brooklyn. They like Harry Styles.
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  Speaker 1: They like Zoe Kravitz. They're really hipsters. And so Kelly
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  Speaker 1: turned up. She's never been the coolest celebrity in the world.
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  Speaker 3: She turned up. She wanted to buy this bird, this
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  Speaker 3: mechanical bird on the wall. They told her it was
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  Speaker 3: not for sale. But they did tell her, this is
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  Speaker 3: the artist who made it. You can contact him, and
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  Speaker 3: he'll give you a special commission. That wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 1: And I think what this is, is it's David and Goliath,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? It's celebrities. It's people with power. acting very,
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  Speaker 1: very poorly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this store, it's a mom and pop store
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  Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. They're now getting death threats. Eight million of
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Colloxon's fans now know where this store is. And
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  Speaker 3: so I'm really shocked about Kelly doing this. I've known
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  Speaker 3: her for a long time since American Idol.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of celebrities, Mark, I know you
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  Speaker 1: do too.
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  Speaker 3: Most of them are not that nice. Kelly Clarkson is
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  Speaker 3: one of the good ones. So I fear here, and
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  Speaker 3: I might be giving her the benefit of the doubt,
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  Speaker 3: I think she was having a terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Day, she made a terrible mistake, but what I can't
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  Speaker 1: explain is why she doubled down on it.
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  Speaker 3: She kept going. I've worked with celebrities, I've done crisis
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  Speaker 3: management for Jennifer Lopez, Jon Bon Jovi, Diddy, I've worked.
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  Speaker 1: With some of the biggest stars in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: if I was working with Kelly, I'd say just fix this.
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  Speaker 1: Say sorry. Just say, I was having a bad day.
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  Speaker 1: I was being a brat. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: And tell your fans to back off with the death
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  Speaker 3: threats and all the ugly messages. It's amazing to me
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  Speaker 3: that entitled, super rich celebrities just think they can get
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  Speaker 3: away with anything.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this one's going to bite, Kelly. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a good look.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Crisis management for Diddy. Oh, you must be tired.
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  Speaker 2: That's full-time work. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Years ago, everybody, it was like early 2000s. It was
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  Speaker 1: 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't quite yet the Diddy we know, but I
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  Speaker 3: talked about it. I read a story for The Hollywood Reporter,
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  Speaker 3: and I was really honest about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, did I miss any red flags? Was
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  Speaker 1: he just an awful person back then? And I was so,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was soul-searched, and when I came to the conclusion, I was,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to miss the red flags. I was so,
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  Speaker 3: as a young kid, it was 20 years ago. And
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  Speaker 3: it was my first big celebrity I worked for. And
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  Speaker 3: I was starstruck.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why they get away with stuff for so long.
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  Speaker 1: They use that.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, so Diddy was one of my very
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  Speaker 3: first clients.
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  Speaker 1: In New York.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but people change over 10, 20 years. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're the biggest star in the world and you're in
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  Speaker 2: this big star bubble, it can really change your behavior.
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  Speaker 1: You're right. You're right.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to let myself off the hook on
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  Speaker 3: that because there's some truth to that, too. The Diddy
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  Speaker 3: I knew wasn't the Diddy that he is today. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: there was early warning signs.
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  Speaker 1: He was always arrogant. He was always rude. He was
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  Speaker 1: always full of himself. But he wasn't quite as sure
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  Speaker 1: of himself as he wasn't a billionaire.
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  Speaker 3: He was starting out in the music business. He was
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  Speaker 3: starting out in the fashion business. Once that success hit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if it changes.
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  Speaker 1: You or just reveals who you really, really are. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the result is here, it wasn't pretty. He's a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. It's like drinking. It brings out the
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  Speaker 2: real you sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a good drunk. What do you like when you drink, Mark?
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  Speaker 2: Water. I'm drinking the water right now.
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  Speaker 1: I sent you. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, no, let's see. Let's go over everything. You got, uh,
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  Speaker 2: your sub stack, right? People can go sign up for that.
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  Speaker 1: Rob. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm loving doing sub stacks. Each day I'm breaking news
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  Speaker 3: on sub stack. It's a big housewife week.
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  Speaker 1: I know we like the housewife.
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  Speaker 3: So the New York ladies are coming back to TV.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no.
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  Speaker 1: Ramona, Luan, all those, all those ladies. So they, they stopped,
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  Speaker 1: they stopped getting ratings. Bravo don't fire you if you
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  Speaker 1: deliver ratings.
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  Speaker 3: That's, that's what TV is about. They don't care about
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  Speaker 3: the quality of the product. Uh, it's how many eyeballs
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  Speaker 3: you get. And so nobody was watching them anymore. So
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  Speaker 3: they all got fired. And then E, who used to
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  Speaker 3: back to E. It's make or break week for them
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  Speaker 3: because if people don't turn in, it's the last stop
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  Speaker 3: on the train.
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  Speaker 1: It feels to me as if we've sort of, we've
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  Speaker 1: got to the end of that journey.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody listening, make sure you don't turn in. Don't do it. But, uh, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: but everybody go to Substack. Go to Rob Shooter's Substack.
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  Speaker 2: It's naughty but nice. And then get his new book.
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  Speaker 2: You can pre-order it right now. I need your help.
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  Speaker 2: We need your help with the new novel.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Queen Elizabeth III. Order the new novel, Queen Elizabeth III.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got a YouTube channel people can watch. Rob
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  Speaker 2: Shooter at YouTube. And, well, Rob Shooter, great as always.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: The best. We'll see you soon, my friends. Take care.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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