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Memorial Day Edition: Best of the Bill Handel Show Part 2 · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listen Saints KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles
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  Speaker 1: home or I'm not at home, but I'm not there.
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  Speaker 1: We're rolling out the absolute best, most marginal moments of
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  Speaker 1: the year, and that's the best of the Bill Handle Show. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Starting July one, police are going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: cite autonomous vehicles the manufactures when the cars violate traffic laws.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, there's nobody to ticket. You can only ticket
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  Speaker 1: human beings for driving. And what do you do with
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  Speaker 1: an automas autonomous vehicle. Well, new laws are kicking in
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  Speaker 1: starting July first, that are going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: have the police ticket the manufactures of the car or
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle for any violation. Now, I'm want to point
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  Speaker 1: something out, and that is and this is something that
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  Speaker 1: I experienced when I started at practicing surrogacy. My law
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  Speaker 1: practice science is way ahead of laws. Laws catch up
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  Speaker 1: to science, and that's exactly what happened here. Robotaxis are
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  Speaker 1: not covered by laws, is certainly in this sense in
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  Speaker 1: terms of ticket writing. And so July first, there's a
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  Speaker 1: whole slew of new regulations that come in, some of
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  Speaker 1: which are okay, I mean they make sort of kind
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  Speaker 1: of sense, although they're redundant because the manufacturers already do
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  Speaker 1: this big time, and it's I mean, do we really
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  Speaker 1: need them? They're not bad? I mean, they're not bad.
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  Speaker 1: And they point out why do we need them? Why
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  Speaker 1: can why should the cops ticket robotaxis? And they point
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  Speaker 1: out a whole slew of incidents, all three of them
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  Speaker 1: that have happened. In one case, one of the cars
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  Speaker 1: and this is way mo for the most part, stop
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  Speaker 1: didn't stop and went through a red I think it
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  Speaker 1: went around a bus that had its light flashing. No
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  Speaker 1: one was hurt and there was a kid out there
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  Speaker 1: and the car stopped appropriately. And do you know that
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  Speaker 1: those people that are saying because they are so dangerous
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  Speaker 1: now compare autonomous vehicles to human drivers. Right across the country,
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  Speaker 1: you have what thirty thousand people to die in car
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  Speaker 1: accidents every year, And if across the country you had
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  Speaker 1: nothing but autonomous vehicles across the board, how many people
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  Speaker 1: do you think would die? The technology is so advanced
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  Speaker 1: and it is so much safer to have these vehicles
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  Speaker 1: on the road. Than drivers. I mean, how often do
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  Speaker 1: you get pissed off when someone cuts you off? Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: it happened to be twice. And watching someone blow through
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  Speaker 1: a stop sign usually me, or watch speeding, which happens
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  Speaker 1: every minute when I'm on the freeway. Autonomous vehicles are
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  Speaker 1: simply safer by a long shot. Any pilot will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that you don't use your eyes if you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at a horizon and you really don't understand, you look
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  Speaker 1: down and use your instruments. Those are far far safer.
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  Speaker 1: You take that and you analogize that to cars that
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  Speaker 1: are driving people that drive cars, I would far far
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  Speaker 1: more trust the car itself than anybody driving the car.
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  Speaker 1: So there are a whole bunch of new regulations that
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  Speaker 1: come in which I don't want to go through because
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  Speaker 1: there are literally dozens of them. And the Waimo and
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  Speaker 1: other manufacturers saying, wait a minute, we're already regulated up
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  Speaker 1: the ying yang. I mean we are. We've got the
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  Speaker 1: National Transportation Safety Administration, We've got the FEDS looking at us,
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  Speaker 1: we have the DMV looking at us. We're way regulated,
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  Speaker 1: and well, okay, July first still kicking in, So I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait. There's a great video out there. There's a
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  Speaker 1: meme of a cop looking into a Waymo car Weaimo
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  Speaker 1: taxi and it had done something and looking in there
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  Speaker 1: and looking at it, say where's the driver? Where's the driver?
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  Speaker 1: You can see that on his face. Kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: And then even with a ticket written to the manufacturers
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  Speaker 1: of the EV people, there's this whole system where a
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  Speaker 1: human being looks at it, analyzes it and figures out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. So the controls are even going to
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  Speaker 1: be stronger, so I like them. And once we reach
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  Speaker 1: the point it's not going to be in our lifetime,
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  Speaker 1: but when we but it will happen. Once we reach
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  Speaker 1: the point where it will be autonomous vehicles, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: People will not be on the roads, particularly the freeways.
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  Speaker 1: You'll see these cars zipping along at seventy miles an hour,
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  Speaker 1: two feet from each other, and gridlock will disappear. That's
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. But we're going to be a
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  Speaker 1: long waist from that, because even you'll always be able
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  Speaker 1: to drive your old clunker by then. Okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: a question I want to ask you. Would you buy
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  Speaker 1: a Chinese car? I would no. Good old Kono is
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  Speaker 1: shaking his head. Let me ask you this, would you
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  Speaker 1: buy a Chinese car if it was far less expensive
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  Speaker 1: and at least as good or better quality than an
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  Speaker 1: American car? They're saying no, Well, guess what most people would.
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  Speaker 1: And the only way the car industry surviving even in
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  Speaker 1: the United States is Chinese cars cannot be sold and
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple of rules that are in the works.
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  Speaker 1: Can't even be driven into the United States. Mexico is
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  Speaker 1: a place where Chinese cars are being bought. There's dealerships
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  Speaker 1: in Mexico that sell Chinese cars, hybrids and evs and
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  Speaker 1: gas powered cars, and here the same car would be
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  Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars, give or take. There, they're twenty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. They're just better cars. The EV models
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  Speaker 1: are miles ahead of what we do here. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: American car makers are absolutely scared because if Chinese cars
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  Speaker 1: are able to be sold here, it's going to well
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  Speaker 1: wipe out the American car market.
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  Speaker 2: Is it really.
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  Speaker 3: Apples to apples though they don't drive the amount of
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  Speaker 3: mileage that we do in the United States, they're not
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  Speaker 3: built for that kind of driving. An oh, they're boarded
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  Speaker 3: at the cost would go up because they'd have to
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  Speaker 3: be to our regulations, not theirs.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct. However, the Chinese sensive now, they would not
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  Speaker 1: be more expensive, not even close. So they're two thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars more. It's very easy for the Chinese because they're
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  Speaker 1: so sophisticated and so good at these and especially yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's it. Labor is far cheaper. You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: You can call it slave labor. They're going to call
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  Speaker 1: it labor that gladly works on cars for thirty two
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  Speaker 1: cents an hour and they're happy to do so. And
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  Speaker 1: you they look at their kid who's about to go
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  Speaker 1: to work eight years old, and gee, dad, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go to work today. Shut up, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to work.
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  Speaker 2: I just looked at these. I don't see that the
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  Speaker 2: math maths.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it does the way you think it does.
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  Speaker 1: It does. I'm telling you it does. And why are
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  Speaker 1: why are the American car manufacturers so frightened of this?
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  Speaker 1: Why are lawmakers machin not only to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: Chinese cars are not being sold in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: but they can even be driven because right now, the
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  Speaker 1: law says if someone has dual citizenship and resides in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say, can drive the Chinese car over the border.
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  Speaker 1: Very limited amount of cars are there, but what the
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  Speaker 1: Chinese cars are proving. It's like the European cars when
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  Speaker 1: the American car make manufacturers sort of left that market
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  Speaker 1: and didn't really bother because America owned the car market.
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  Speaker 1: So you had Volkswagen come in, you had other cars
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  Speaker 1: they slipped in, and American car manufacturers did not pay attention.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's what twenty of cars or foreign cars being
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  Speaker 1: sold in the United States, and they come in very inexpensively.
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  Speaker 1: Honda did that, and Nissan did that, and other Japanese companies,
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  Speaker 1: Toyota did that, and they were cheap and they were good.
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  Speaker 1: And then and the American car manufacturers, we don't really
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  Speaker 1: care well. They surrepetitiously produce better cars, less expensive cars.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happening here. And so you've got
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  Speaker 1: dealers on the other side of the border. There's one
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  Speaker 1: dealer that sells Geelee cars. G E E. L Y.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the brand names. Byd is the biggest
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  Speaker 1: car manufacturer in the world. Great Wall Motors. How clever
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  Speaker 1: is that? Right? There's orange Chicken cars. No, there actually isn't.
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  Speaker 1: But what's happening is the American car manufacturers have left
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  Speaker 1: the low end market completely because there's not enough profit.
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  Speaker 1: Where they make their money is on high end SUVs
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  Speaker 1: and pickup trucks, where all the profit is, and that's
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  Speaker 1: where the American car manufacturers have left the market. And
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  Speaker 1: what these Chinese cars are doing. And there's room for
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  Speaker 1: this because there's a huge gap in the market and
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  Speaker 1: if allowed, they're going to fill it. And if allowed,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to do exactly what the Japanese car makers
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  Speaker 1: did and China then Volkswagen did, is just build better
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  Speaker 1: and better cars and start gobbling up cannibalizing the market.
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  Speaker 1: And American lawmakers are so frightened of this. Bernie Marino
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  Speaker 1: Center Bernie Marino Republican, Ohio has introduced a bill that
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  Speaker 1: would hermetically seal the US from Chinese automakers, where Canadian
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  Speaker 1: cars and Mexican cars read Chinese cars that are sold
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  Speaker 1: there could not even come into the country. A Mexican
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  Speaker 1: national who owns a Chinese car, who let's say works
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  Speaker 1: in the United States cannot drive his or her car
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  Speaker 1: over the border. You have to park it on this
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  Speaker 1: style on their side of the border. I guess walk
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  Speaker 1: or take a bus. That's how frightened it is. And
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  Speaker 1: that's how good these Chinese cars are and the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that is saving the American car market. I have
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  Speaker 1: a Beamer right an election ev Beamer, and let's just
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  Speaker 1: say it is not inexpensive that same car, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: although they don't the Chinese don't make this level of
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  Speaker 1: car would probably be twenty five percent lower. And Kno,
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  Speaker 1: when you're buying a car, I don't believe you for
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  Speaker 1: a second that you wouldn't buy a Chinese car if
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  Speaker 1: it were better and cheaper. Will would you buy a
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  Speaker 1: Chinese car? Of course? You way? Okay, Aby, would you
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  Speaker 1: buy a Chinese car? Maybe?
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  Speaker 2: I like the buy American thing, but I'm not married.
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  Speaker 1: I understood. Yeah, I love buy American until you have
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  Speaker 1: something for half price. It's just a good because what
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  Speaker 1: do Americans do? They vote with their pocketbook? Wait till November,
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  Speaker 1: Neil American car. Would you buy a Chinese car better
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  Speaker 1: or cheap?
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  Speaker 2: Our cars are American? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Would you buy a Chinese car?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I'm not opposed to it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, I know what the difference between a porcupine
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  Speaker 3: and a BMW is.
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  Speaker 2: A BMW porcupine has the pricks on the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well said, and would you buy a Chinese car?
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  Speaker 2: I would?
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  Speaker 1: But minus German? Okay, I I have a gym in
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  Speaker 1: car too. So here's what we have. We have and
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  Speaker 1: I would. So there's one, two, three, four of us
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  Speaker 1: who would buy a Chinese car and one liar? Right, Kono,
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  Speaker 1: I don't support a slave labor.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a point.
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  Speaker 1: Why not.
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  Speaker 2: Say that if we have I phones?
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  Speaker 1: What's right? Good point? Good point?
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  Speaker 2: Shut up?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a good point. Okay, yes, So well not if
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  Speaker 1: you get a great car at a great price. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna see great wall motor cars in the United
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  Speaker 1: States at some point. Here's the Wall Street Journal story.
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  Speaker 1: And the question is, and they asked this question because
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  Speaker 1: kind of neat. What is the magic number when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to close friends? And I mean close friends. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm going around the room. Cono magic number? Close friends? Seven? Seven? Okay? Amy,
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  Speaker 1: close friends? Oh? How many?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, like four?
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  Speaker 2: Best friends?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's close friend. I think they mean best friends. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're at four? All right, Well, close friends best friends
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  Speaker 1: three or five?
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  Speaker 2: Cono is obviously very popular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or he thinks he's very popular, or he looks
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  Speaker 1: in the mirror every morning goes best friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, seven best friends, best friends and then Neil friends.
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  Speaker 2: Are they real?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: I go, I hit around the five. I'm a big believer.
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  Speaker 3: Al Capone said, be careful who you make friends with.
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  Speaker 3: Better to have four quarters than one hundred pennies. And
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  Speaker 3: I believe in that in life, have fewer friends and
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  Speaker 3: make sure they're real.
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  Speaker 1: Well, four quarters is about the same as one hundred pennies.
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  Speaker 1: So that made absolutely no sense. But thanks for the thought,
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  Speaker 1: greatly appreciated.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't understand. You didn't understand the illustration.
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  Speaker 1: I did not. It's still a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: No, so there's one hundred of people. No, he still
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  Speaker 2: he only understands the money part of it. I get.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, guy, it's for breaking. That's absolutely true. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I have what I consider too. I see neither
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  Speaker 1: one basically Ever, Neil I could consider a best friend
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  Speaker 1: and my other best friend Savil. No, Lindsay also, but
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  Speaker 1: that's the law I have. Ever as yeah, I have to,
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  Speaker 1: I have no choice. But when it comes to best friends,
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  Speaker 1: it's Neil and Savill. What makes this relationship our relationship
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  Speaker 1: so special as I never see any one of them
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  Speaker 1: either one of them ever, so that works out for me.
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  Speaker 1: But the study showed they were talking to psychologists and
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  Speaker 1: sociologists experts that that actually changes over the years. My
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  Speaker 1: social life when my kids were in school was very full.
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  Speaker 1: I was with other people, classmates, doing events, so my
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  Speaker 1: kids were at birthday parties, I met other parents, and
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  Speaker 1: then realized when my kids are out of school, I
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  Speaker 1: hated every single one of those people and I stopped
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  Speaker 1: seeing them instantly. So it depends on how old you are.
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  Speaker 1: The older you get the fewer best friends because you
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  Speaker 1: don't have time for it. You just don't want to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it anymore. And that makes sense. And two
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  Speaker 1: to five, by the way, will you were right on
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  Speaker 1: it's high in our youth get smaller the further we
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  Speaker 1: get into adulthood and then moving on and a busy
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  Speaker 1: midlife can be the hardest time to keep close friends. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think if I had to really sit down and
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  Speaker 1: analyze this, what would I say about close friends? Waste
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  Speaker 1: of time? Yeah, and just get in the way of
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  Speaker 1: everything you do. Yeah, go out to dinner, Well, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you got to. You have to pay you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do anything. That's absolutely true. Do you know I
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  Speaker 1: have my job, I go to work. I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to my trainer the other day and I was killing
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  Speaker 1: myself because I walk in. I know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: believe that I'm training, because I truly am at that
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  Speaker 1: point where I don't want to fall apart, even though
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  Speaker 1: I am falling apart. So I talk to my trainer
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  Speaker 1: and I finish up at noon, especially cardio day, which
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  Speaker 1: absolutely kills me, and I'm sweating and I'm huffing and
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  Speaker 1: I'm puffing, puffing. I say, okay, I have to go
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  Speaker 1: to my afternoon job now. And he said, your afternoon
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  Speaker 1: job sitting on the couch and watching TV. Yep, that's
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  Speaker 1: my afternoon job, damn straight. And I don't want anybody
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  Speaker 1: around me when I watch TV. That's by myself. Pick
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  Speaker 1: my nose, fling the boogers, you know, belch and do
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  Speaker 1: all the things that guys do. Easy.
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  Speaker 3: You're turning on the audience after you, sexy dog.
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  Speaker 1: Now there is Oh, there's Lindsay getting really excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're giving everybody a limp on.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, We're done with that. It's Monday, May twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and we are honoring our nation's heroes this Memorial Day
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  Speaker 1: while our live broadcast crew steps away from the holiday,
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  Speaker 1: as in they're not here at all. We want to
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  Speaker 1: keep you informed and that continues. This is the best
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  Speaker 1: of the Bill Handle Show. Okay. Now, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things I said prior to the break is we're in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a gubernatorial race and it's wide open,
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  Speaker 1: wide open. We don't even know if a Democrat is
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  Speaker 1: going to be on the ballot because, as I've talked
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  Speaker 1: about before, our system in California passed by the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: saying the top two candidates who get the vote go
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  Speaker 1: on to the general and could be Republicans because there
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  Speaker 1: are so many Democrats splitting up the vote and only
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  Speaker 1: two Republicans. So here is what's going on with particularly Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: They promised the moon. The problem is, how do you
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  Speaker 1: pay for all of costs, very costly Sacramento's current programs. Well,
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  Speaker 1: no one can come up with that answer. Newsome and
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  Speaker 1: the legislature have dug into the state into really deep
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  Speaker 1: financial holes and severe deficit spending. And why because they've
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  Speaker 1: never met an entitlement program they didn't like. We as
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  Speaker 1: the electorate we vote more taxes over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: And so how do we get around this, Well, programs
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  Speaker 1: have to be cut, taxes have to increase, the government
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  Speaker 1: legitimately legitimately has to be more cost effective and efficient.
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  Speaker 1: All three of them almost impossible. And so look what
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  Speaker 1: we have. Excessive borrowing, program delays, no outright eliminations. Every
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  Speaker 1: time we have a bill that passes or tax that's
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  Speaker 1: passed that sunsets, they're supposed to sunset, it doesn't. It
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  Speaker 1: absolutely doesn't. I remember there was is a tax for
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  Speaker 1: education the teachers, and it was supposed to sunset, and
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  Speaker 1: it didn't, and of course we voted for it, not
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  Speaker 1: the sunset, and the teachers union said you got to
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  Speaker 1: pass it because not one penny more of your taxes
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  Speaker 1: are going to be spent, not a penny more. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the point is they were. The extra taxes were put in,
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  Speaker 1: and we're supposed to end, and of course they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: The non Parson legislative analyst estimated that the d deficits
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  Speaker 1: are going to run from twenty to thirty five billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars and the financial commitment commitments are not sustainable, and
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  Speaker 1: mopping up the red ink is going to be very
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  Speaker 1: very difficult and one of the big issues. And this
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  Speaker 1: is something that none of the candidates are even talking
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  Speaker 1: about or figuring out how to pay. One of them
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  Speaker 1: is a single payer. No one wants to say national
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  Speaker 1: medical plans single payer. And this is just the state
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  Speaker 1: of California. And single payer takes away private insurance. It
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  Speaker 1: takes away for the most part, co pays and the
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  Speaker 1: state becomes the insurer. Oh my god, how horrible is that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: keep in mind this is going to cost money. It's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: We have the best, the best medical care in the world. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to talk to those people who don't have
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  Speaker 1: insurance and can't afford it and can't afford going to
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  Speaker 1: the doctor. I would like you to email me and
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  Speaker 1: tell me how we have the best medical care in
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  Speaker 1: the world where you can't afford to go to the
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  Speaker 1: doctor and when you do, you have to literally go bankrupt.
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  Speaker 1: Why is every country in the in the industrial world,
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  Speaker 1: in the industrialized world able to pull it off with
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  Speaker 1: single payer? And we can't because socialist it's because it
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  Speaker 1: makes no sense. It's because we can't afford to do this, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And so where's the money coming from? In general? Well,
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  Speaker 1: right now. The revenues are pretty good because the stock
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  Speaker 1: market and income is pretty high in the state. And
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  Speaker 1: since the state receives the vast majority of its revenue
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  Speaker 1: on income tax, and when the economy goes south even
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, income tax drops. What do you have, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you have all those programs that have been passed, all
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  Speaker 1: of those programs that must be paid for, and all
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  Speaker 1: of those new programs that no one can afford, certainly
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  Speaker 1: the state. I mean, this is absolutely crazy. Where's that
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  Speaker 1: stat that I was looking at? And that's since twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen under Newsome, the state general fund spending has gone
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  Speaker 1: up by one hundred billion dollars to two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty eight billion. In the latest budget, it's gone up
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  Speaker 1: thirty percent. It's unsustainable and there's no answer. And you
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  Speaker 1: can't be elected if you say we have to cut.
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  Speaker 1: Not in this state, we have to cut, we have
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  Speaker 1: to raise taxes. Well that's a tough one, because we
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  Speaker 1: happen to like taxes for some reason. In the state.
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  Speaker 1: Every Democrat, it is a Democrat elected legislature. There's a
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  Speaker 1: super majority. So the people who vote and our legislature
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  Speaker 1: and the governor just loves taxes. And we have, of course,
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  Speaker 1: by far the highest tax in the United States, our state.
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  Speaker 1: And so you're going to hear I'm going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. I'm going to make our
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  Speaker 1: state a cheaper place to live in. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do more for the people of California with less money.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get rid of fraud and waste. And
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  Speaker 1: then you ask, how is it going any of it
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  Speaker 1: going to be paid for? And anybody says, we're cutting programs,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting rid of the social programs. You don't get
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  Speaker 1: elected saying that you don't, and now we're back to
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  Speaker 1: free pizza. That's what I'm going to give you an
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  Speaker 1: elect me another hour down and keep it right here.
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