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If the Power Goes Out… You’re Not a Homesteader · Ranch Wives Unsupervised

• Ranch Wives: living room. If the power goes out and it changes your life drastically, you're not homesteading. that was good. That was good. I like that. That was good. Okay. Yeah. I'm on board. I'm on board what I'm saying now. I support that. When Okay. Let's go. Everybody. I have and this could be a hot topic. I don't know. Hot. Hold on. Okay. We're we should say that we've all picked a topic. Yes. For the next three weeks. For the next three weeks and none of us know what they are. So we're all leading in different topics. So this should be interesting. Yes. I'm so curious on like if we're gonna overlap or if these are all just gonna be a free for all. Yeah. Okay, go. That's all I wanted to say. Okay, hobby farming and how we feel about it. And what we think it looks like. Are you frickin' kidding me? Is that yours? I was gonna go misconceptions w along with Hobby Farmer. That's funny. That is so funny. Okay, well we'll tie tie ours That's fine. Good. She's good. Go, go, go. tie ours together. That's okay. That's funny. Okay. Okay, so like hobby farming. Like what do we all like think that looks like? What is it? What is considered hobby farming versus a ranch? Like or like full you know what I mean? What at what point are you no longer a hobby farm? Okay, so I Googled it. Okay. And I looked up the definition and it is like your main source of income needs to be from the farm. For it to not be a hobby farm. So a hobby farm is like Me currently. Technically you. You're a hobby farm. Yes. Because you're paying off the debt to become the farm. Yeah. Yes. Makes sense. Yeah. Which a lot of farmers are. Like a lot of a lot of people around here do oil field and then have the farm. So technically that's you sure for a lot of people that would be h hobby farming. I think you've just opened up a different topic for me. I'm gonna write it down. I think there's a difference though between farm Or like rancher mindset versus an actual hobby farm mindset. Whether or not you have that's true. Twenty cows or you have a hundred and twenty cows. Yeah. Some of its mindset 'cause there are some people who have a hundred and twenty cows and they still hobby farm, if that makes sense. Yes. Because they don't understand the business side of it or because what do you mean by that? Well and just like hobby farms to me are like You like the animals, they're cute. You name them. Peter is great. Peter is great. But also to me hobbies follows you around. Hobby farms could also be like you have a section of hay and that's it. Yeah, you have and like Right. And you're like you're you're oil fielding for all year long and then you hay for three weeks in the summer and then that's it. Yeah. Right. To me that's like a hobby farm. Which would be the more the grain side. To me, hobby farming would be more animals. You have chickens and goats and not like a large amount and you don't run it on any like program, essentially. They're just all your pets. Yeah. And the goats are always free in the yard and the cows are you know. I think I do have to agree with the definition though. Because until you're making I mean, mind you, it's different when you're paying for land. I get that. I'm not I understand you have to start somewhere and you need a you need a source of income. yeah. Right? So I'm I'm not against that at all because you ever start somewhere. However, I do think there does come a point that if you want like, I don't know. I think there does come a point where like unless you are unless you have a are treating it like a business, know the ins and out, know the red lines, whatever it is. That it is a hobby farm. Because you do it as a business, you should know that cow's been open three years. Why heck you she ain't making you no money. You keep in her because she's ooh, Betty Lou. Like. And okay, this is coming from somebody who has a beef cow that is her milk cow that is going to be retired back to the beef herd that I will probably have to keep even when she is producing minimal because I have spent so much time with her. Yeah. However, I also have just come to this stand where I listened to such a good podcast the other day and it's like how did he word it? It's like would you make that decision if it wasn't if you weren't involved, like if you weren't the main money person, would you still make that decision? Or no, how did that work? I feel like I'm butchering it. It was more so saying like the decisions being made from a business standpoint, are they being made f for the best of the business or because you're emo essentially emotionally tied or attached to that decision? Right. And I was like, That's interesting 'cause we've we've had a few of those out here. Mm-hmm. We totally have. yeah. There's a lot of those. You could hobby farm with 120 Or you could hobby farm with like 10 Absolutely. Or you could not hob like Absolutely. Like we don't have that many cows, but I don't see us as like a hobby farm because our cows are there to bring in enough. So they they make a payment they're paid for so that we can like grow. Yeah. Absolutely. They're not there I mean your guys' goal is also to farm. Yeah. It's not to just like work Field for the rest of your lives. No. There's like a 10-year plan. Yeah. Which might end up. Okay, that's the other thing. I think that's the other thing though. You should it should have a five-year plan, a 10-year plan, a 15-year plan. Like, where do you see this? Mm-hmm. Because as much as it is a lifestyle, it is what pay essentially is paying your bills. And I don't think I think hobby farming is a little bit different. Not like discing it, but like the People that are doing it don't actually want a full blown farm. They want Absolut. They want the milk, they want the eggs, they want the beef and the like pork or whatever they have. They're self-sustainable. Like they wanna be self-sustaining. So it's their goal is completely different. Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. 100%. I couldn't agree more with that. Cause like even if you look at me, I've got 40 chickens right now, something like that. Those guys are freeloaders at the moment because they're done laying under the coop. yeah. And I can't get to them. So they're just they are a hobby. You're a hobby chicken firm. I'm a hobby chicken farmer No, because but I had to admit that. They're not making me any money. yeah. We'll be lucky to break even on feed this summer. Because they're just doing whatever they want. Well, and they're free-ranging, so who knows where they're laying. Which is this is a me problem. Yeah. But because I enjoy having them all over, it's a problem I'm like willing. Yeah. To take. But we're also not being like, gotta make a mortgage payment due to the chickens. It's not that you can't do it, you can. I'm just saying, in this term, if you were to look out there between the milk Cow and the Chickens, that would be my version of the hobby farm versus the Highland cows. Also, there's a lot of people My Highlands are hobbies. Yeah. My commercials, even though there's only twenty something of them, they are not. Yeah. But they're yeah. But to me it's also like when your farm is just a tax write off. That's a hobby. yeah, I have a grind on this. Like I have a grind on this. There are lots of bigger farmers who have bigger farms. Yep. But it's just a tax write-off. It's just a tax write off, yeah. For bigger companies or whatever. For other businesses. For other businesses. So then to me, I'm like, that's still a hobby farm. Like this isn't your heart and soul and livelihood and everything. Yeah. Which whatever. I think like we need farmers, so I think everybody should be farming and doing your hobby farm and whatever. Like I think that's great. I also I don't think you should I think big commercial things are also not good. Like I think actually as a society we're better off as hobby farming and you know, our bees are hobby. Hundred percent. Like are we getting honey? Yes. Will our neighbors get a little bit? Probably. But besides that, we're not making paying. Not only making cash o law, so I'll be lucky to pay back the hives. Yeah. Bees are like girl math. It's like when you're like, okay, yeah. So I'm not paying for honey in the store, so I'm making money, really. 100%. The be yeah, the bees are definitely a hobby. They're not Yeah. What are you gonna like they bring joy? It's absolutely girl math. We're totally like, I don't know, couple probably a couple grand in. Yeah. Between hives and tools and Which to be fair, between the two of us we have nine hives. Yeah, we're doing great. That's great. We're doing so super good. And next year you'll have more and like I guess you can give people hives and whatever. I don't know how it works. No. I'm going to get more. Lacey's like, I will have all of the hives. My goal is to get like three or four. A monopoly. Probably. We should just put them out on people's fields. You should be that person. my brother in law wants to take the bees next year. He wants to plant whatever. I wanna do a Typically they like canola. It's not canola he's putting them out on. Okay, wait. We just did a honey extraction on the topic of hobby farming. we just did a honey extraction this morning. Lace, what do you think the type of honey was? You remember on the lid, it was so much darker. Totally different type of honey. Then like it was like a gold a dark golden color. Like an alfalfa honey or like, you Yeah, I don't Alfalfa's light, I think. Okay. I just threw something out there. I haven't actually tracked my. Where be like I don't know how how do you track your bees where they're flowering? Yeah, like 'cause everybody's like, this is my this is dandelion honey. Which I do dandelion honey is the easiest to get because it's the earliest. The earliest. So the first flowers blooming are dandelions. So like the So if you pull honey No, you have to pull it is before everything else starts flowering. Right. Or it's not just dandelion honey. Right. You have to pull it. Very early. Very early. To get dandelion honey. Right. Mine were barely. So there there was like yeah, I wouldn't say we had very much dandelion honey. But that honey is dark. But I think the darker is a little bit more wildflower kind of honey. And the lighter I think is actually alfalfa because I get lighter when our field starts flowering. Right. Mm. That's interesting. Then my honey gets light. Mm-hmm. And I wonder if people around town who aren't so close to farm fields, like what theirs would be. Yeah. I know there are some flowers. They like they take their hives out. Well, did you see over by brandt when you turn off but the br by brandt coming out here? Did anybody go that way? Okay, well if you go that way, there is hundreds of hives on both sides coming down, like right where that big hay field is on the left. Yeah. Jorim's family is And I take hives? Yeah. Yeah. I would be very careful who just gets my hive. Yeah. But like my brother in law's fine. Yeah. I was like, he's like, like, I'll pay you. And I was like, well, I mean, I don't really care. Because it's beneficial. You're loading them up and you're unloading them. Like I ain't left in these boxes. my gosh. That was the other thing. Even today we were like Doing the crates, I was like, my gosh, I forgot how heavy of a workout this is. Like they were they were heavy. They're full of honey. They're full of honey. But I just did arms yesterday and my shoulder, my one shoulder was like twitching. I was like, don't drop this, don't drop this, don't drop this. I literally had to say that to myself. that's funny. Anyways, okay. It's so cute though, because my daughter Hobby farms bees. So she's sitting there and she's letting them crawl around on her hand. And she's just like talking to them and is like having a sweet little moment. She brought one all the way back to the hive. Yeah, she doesn't just like if it lands on her, she doesn't just like kick it off. No. She gets it on her hand and then brings it back. Takes it back to the hive. And if it's friendly, she took it back to the nice hive. Did she? Yeah, my one hive is like a little bit they're they're definitely the more prolific. They weren't like super mad until they got caught. Yeah, that is. Because my gloves were covered in honey, so then they were getting stuck, and then I rolled my wrist, and then it got. She got stung how many times today? I don't actually know. Probably like over ten. my goodness. I don't think it was that many times. Well, you got four on your feet? And then one on my wrist. okay. Five. Five for sure. I Didn't but guess who wore rubber boots? Guess who couldn't get the bees couldn't get? I was fully and I'm I fully armed. I was fully armed. I have yet to go out not fully armed. My problem was I was wearing short little slippers. Yes! Anyways. My suit doesn't the zippers at the bottom pant leg are broken. So they don't go off and so they were crawling on my feet and on my foot. But then when the pant leg would push or like trap under my shoe, that's when they'd sting. So they weren't like this like does not sound fun to me at all. It's fine. Like the fine. It was pretty it was actually pretty fast. She doesn't swell up though. Yeah. I would probably swallow the legs. Yeah, but that's like four or five or whatever it was in one spot. I know the camera can't see this, but Moodog is very upset that Keith didn't take I see that. When I drove up she's just been sitting on the quad. Yeah, she's upset. She's so offended. Very upset. So anyway. Okay, on the back to this ho topic of hobby farming. Would you ever get goats? No. I love the idea of goats because they clear the brush. And there's like all in this area back behind the house. But also your cows do that too. They stomp it in. I know, but like the goats really like clean it up. You know what I'm saying? Only if you starve them. Yeah. I I've never had goats. But the few people that actually have goats and have been trying to use them said like you basically have to starve them to get them to eat the willows. Yeah. We had there were goats at our place before we moved there, like the guy before us had goats. And I'm looking at it now and I'm like, I don't it's fine. Yeah. It's like great, there's still thistle everywhere. They don't get rid of the thistle, so Yeah. And and they're they can jump so high, like they can escape so easy. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, so Keith Keith and then they ram you like yeah, I've never done no. Keith is very, very Against very against goats Yeah, has said we'll will be dispatched on site. If I show up with one is the best way I could word that. but my so my parents eventually are gonna like plan to like retire out here. And my stepdad wants a fainting goat And a mini donkey. my gosh. Which is funny because he doesn't even want a hobby farm to like for the homestead health food benefit. He wants the hobby farm for the cute factor. But which is so funny because if you knew Curt Curtis. That is not looking at him, you would never think, this man thinks mini goats. I'm just outing you. I am just telling the world. But anyways, yeah, anyways, he was like, wouldn't these fainting goats be so cute, Keith? No, they wouldn't, because every time you go to chase them because they're in the garden, they faint and then you gotta pack out. Very unpractical. They are. Actually, k that's the other thing. So would you ever get sh this is not even on the top. I said like sheep. No. I would love sheep for their wool. However, they're full of parasites. Yeah, and you they're a lot of work. Don't you have to shave them like pretty often? Once a year. Once a year. No, I thought it was more than that. I don't think in our area. Yeah, I think they like coming. Yeah. They so they're shaved from the I'm sure what would you do with this wool? Would you actually do something with it? So here's the thing. I'm actually gonna so one of the Minnonite ladies that I've befriended, their boys do our chickens, she gets wool and she gets comforted or no, they have wool from their kids' sheep. And she gets like comforters made out of them. And I've seen this. Ashley You have access to wool. So comforters. But here's the thing, you have to pretty much she sends it over I wanna say to the states. The wool to get them like turned into comforters and stuff. To get the I don't know, the wool. Like you put it in the loom and stuff. Whatever that is. Whatever are they like felted together? Are they like knit together, like weaved together? Or like what do they look like? Or or is it like a it's no, it's a s like a feather-down quilt that's just packed with wool instead of feathers. Yeah, but it's gotta be like cleaned. It's the cleaning process of it. That there isn't like a lot of wool mills in our area. And whatever this mill is sh anyways, I don't know the I don't know all the details and I've not seen what it looks like. All the time Is it worth it? This sounds like money, money, money, expensive is this. Like shipping wool down in the States. Well, you'd have to go and make a trip out of it. But hey, my brother's getting married. He's marrying a girl that is not too far from where this is. It's three hours. I looked it up. the mill is three hours. Okay, see that makes sense. So I'm like, well, we're all we could all go on a trip or like whatever. Yeah. This is probably a girl math thing as well. Cause I'm like, Keith, I said to Keith, I was like, that would be so cool. He's okay. I love that. Okay, here's the other thing I like it, is because like for some reason there's certain times our down, no, our down does really good, but a normal comforter really bugs my sinsus Right. My down is better, but it's not always ten out of ten. Right. Anyway, somebody was like, I think I wanna say it was my grandma, but I actually can't remember who I heard this from. It's like try wool But do you think do you know how much a wo I looked at how much a wool mattress was. expensive. A mattress? A mattress. wow. It's like a bunch of sheep right there. I would have to sell my left kidney and part of my liver to afford it. It's so expensive, but it's really cool. I love the idea of it. On the self-sustaining. There's not a lot of sheep farmers like around here. okay, here's another thing though. She said, we don't a lot of people aren't farming sheep. A sheep is picking up in price. But she said a lot of people don't keep the wool because there's no money in it. Because because there's nowhere there's nowhere that does the problem of the wool. Everything's I think that's why Ashley gets her wool. Because yeah. They shear, nobody wants to do anything with it. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Anyways, that's the only I don't even really like sheep. Like they would look cute as lambs, but they're those things try to be croaking on you left, right, and center front. Yeah. They're always I mean good return, but they drop like flies. They'd be dropping like flies. Plus I'd want one in the house. And a entire sheep? No. Not like when they're full grown, but if there was like a little bottle baby, I'd be like, come here, little friend. I know who I am as a person, okay? They're still cute. Yes, I would bring it in. There is a problem with that. At least you know. Yeah, that's why we don't have them. Yeah. I know my limits. I play within them. Do you think on the topic like so with hobby farming, do you think hobby farmers create, can create a bad rep for no I don't you know what I really enjoy about hobby farmers? I will say this. A lot of them have kids. Yep. And they're teaching their kids real life skills, animal skills, like they're doing 4 H. They're doing this. Like obviously a lot of like actual farmers do that as well. Because they're not out They don't need they're not chasing money. They're not chasing they're this is why they're happy. They're content. This is what I was going with this. Nice to be around. Exactly. But they're content. Yes. So what I was going with this. Typically they're decent neighbors too. Absolutely they are. As long as they have good fences Unless your hundred cows get into their titled hobby friends. That could be the meaning. But where I was going with it is that they for the most part, they're content. Whereas it does seem like when you kind of get To this stage of like, I've got 300 head, or what 500 head, 600 head. It's always it's about the numbers and the bottom line. Numbers and bottom line, which I understand the business standpoint is that I do get that. However, it's also like, are you content in that or are you just trying to beat your neighbor? Do you know what I mean? Because like there's lots of people, for example, I have to tell you something. Our neighbor did rounds this year. cut Did rounds. Cut his hay in rounds. He used to cut it. How y'all cut it? He cut in rounds. Is he listening to our podcast? I doubt it. But anyways. That's all. Not even on the topic. But we're I don't think anybody in our area I have never seen anyone cut rounds. Anyways, I'm just saying there's another one of us out here. It's very wrong. It's definitely in the water they drink. Yeah, it must be. Okay, anyways, what I was saying is they are content. Yeah. There isn't this like version of like, we need to compete like who has the bigger track, who has the nicer tractor, who Who's doing what? Do you know what I mean? Like which for some reason I think it's like an egotistical thing. But it does always seem like, I got this new tractor. The bigger, the better. and especially like Not that I'm saying our neighbors are like this, but like we have neighbors who are similar size and they run different equipment than what we run, right? They're more like John Deere and we're Case New Holland. And so then it's always like this, they always are like, well, my John Deere or my Case Combine or whatever, right? And it's so funny because but it's not like in that sense, we're not like actually comparing or anything. But it is like for us, we have a relationship with our neighbors that we can talk actually talk about like, what are your inputs, outputs and stuff like this. So that like, actually your combine does good in this, but it doesn't do good in this. And then yeah. You know, as you can compare versus they just bought a new combine. they're now we must do it. Like now. Something I'm like super curious about not to I don't We don't really pay much attention to what neighbors do, but like in some sense, I am a nosy nelly in the sense I'm like, would that work? Would that be more beneficial? Could you feed more head off of less acreage doing it this way? Could are your expenses lower? Whatever. Yeah. So we have one neighbor who switched to silage. Right. And I know nothing of this neighbor. I've never even met this neighbor to be honest. Keith would know more than I do. I don't know how many head he is feeding, but he is switched to silage. Mind you, he does need to run an extra tractor because he has to like bust up a bale to feed with the silage. Right. Because it's too hot. Yeah. But I was like, it would be curious, because if you're able to feed more head off of less hay acreage, is it worth your while? And so we like had this big discussion about it. And I can't remember who if it was Dave or with Keith or whoever. He was like, Yeah, but he you know, he's still I He still does XYZ, he's not doing it full time. I'm like, yeah, but if he's able to still pay whatever it is that he's paying for by doing that, it's the best for his operation. I'm not saying it's the best for our operation. I don't know. You would really have to sit down and compare the numbers. 'Cause like I said, we we make hay for cheaper than the silage, but we all silage though isn't just Hey. No, that's it's a different crop. So you plant it so that's like a side higher input cost. Yeah. Yeah. It's a silage But we always do green feed anyways. On yeah, you do. Yeah. Like we plant oats so you probably would actually be better off then to have somebody come in and silage. It would take them probably like twenty four hours. But then then we also only feed every 2 days Where silage you have to feed every day because it freezes up here. Sometimes if it's warm, that neighbor was saying you can get away with So like that's the other thing. Yes, he he's getting more per acreage. Yeah. But now he's running his sh dad's like he has to start a tractor every day. I don't know what it costs him to run a tractor. That's above my pay grade. I don't care. Well and But also aren't you guys driving like ten miles every other day anyways? But that's so yeah, like what is that, right? So that's what we were talking about. Like, okay, is yes you're starting every day. However, is that still less time put in? Yeah. Or fuel depending on how far we're driving. Like this year we won't be driving that far because we're not going up north. But it does depend. And I think that does come down to regardless if you're a hobby farm or full time ranching or whatever. Doing it all. It does come down to like just because it works on one person's operation does not mean it's going to work on yours. And you do need to like figure out what is the best. Well me and everybody's soil and trees totally different. Everything is totally different. A hundred percent. Yeah. Anyways, it was just curious. I would love to try it just to see. We do we do have green feed anyways. Yeah. It wouldn't hurt. My grandparents actually they did. My grandpa bought a what do you call it? A wrapper. Where it does like the halage bales and then you wrap it, they look like marshmallows. Yeah. Yeah. And they said it's quicker, but you have to be hauling it off and like all this stuff. So there is benefit to it. But I'm like, I what I'm most curious about is like the actual quality. Of said feed. Is it better? Is it not better? Yeah. I'm sure there's studies behind this. I've just never looked into it enough. Yeah, I don't know. I've all this I've been really piqued on silage halage versus hay and green feed and all of that. Would you ever would you ever do turkeys? No. I don't want meat chickens and turkeys growing up. Yeah. Every time it rains you have to chase them back in because they'll drown. What? Yeah. They'll drown? Yeah. They'll like look up to see what's falling on them. Okay, also I do. So when it starts raining, everyone ran out and herded the turkeys back in. That's so funny. my gosh. Hot topic. I don't like turkey. I would way rather have chicken than turkey. I agree. I agree. So why don't you just do chickens? I like a turkey. No, hold on. I do like a turkey. If there is a good cranberry sauce and my mother in law makes a ten out of ten cranberry sauce. Yeah, but like why couldn't you just enjoy the cranberry sauce with the chicken? With the chicken. Absolutely could and I do sometimes. I think turkey feeds more. Yeah, but you probably theory. Or what? Turkey feeds more. Because they're bigger. Yeah. But they're dry and I don't think that's true. I've had some really no no no. Hold on. You the turkey. I've had people say this before. The turkeys that we got from the Minnonites. The same family I was telling you about earlier. Yeah. The best chicken, but also the best turkey. I feel like And I will stand very firm. It was so moist. Everybody just wants the dark meat anyways. Wouldn't it have to depend on how you're cooking it? Absolutely would. Yeah. But it it does also I will say there is a difference between a like store bought turkey and buying it directly off. yeah, there's a difference for sure. But yeah, it does depend on Yeah, then you can be cooking the daylight side of the SD. Just get a chicken. Have you guys ever cooked have you ever like hosted a Christmas dinner and had to cook your own turkey? Are we still at the point where we're going elsewhere I host I do not cook a turkey. My family knows this. So who br somebody brings a ham? No, I do a ham. I do not do turkey. How many are you hosting with a ham? My parents, my sister and her kids, and my brother in law. Now I'm us and our kids. It's at least eleven. It's a pretty big ham. How are you preparing this ham to cook it? I don't know why we're talking about Christmas. The snow aint even flying yet, but I'm just saying. Sometimes I there's like this beer ham recipe that my brother in law gave me. Okay. And it's like a brown sugar, mustard, and beer, like Rickards Red beer. It's so good. I know you're not a beer person, so Well it's fine. But like it tastes so good. You don't taste cooked out anyway. Yeah, but you taste like you taste the flavour of the beer kind of. I see. But like it's the good part. It doesn't taste like alcohol. It tastes like it's the good part. It's so good. That's fun. We'll make you guys a ham. That would be fun. We should do like a Thanksgiving. Yeah, like a friend's mess or something. I love ham. But do you wanna know why I love ham? I'm about I'm a big sauce person in case you haven't noticed. My mom makes a killer honey mustard sauce. And so whenever she makes ham I requests, like the honey mustard sauce. Yeah. And I can't remember if I requested it like for my birthday or if it was just like at Thanksgiving or something. And she like forgot the honey mustard sauce. I was like okay, hold on. This is like a this is a key component. This is what I to the the to this dish. I don't know why it's so good. Keith the one time. For his birthday in July. Yeah. His mom's like, what do you want for birthday dinner? He was like, turkey dinner. I kid you not. She made him a turkey dinner when we were like first dating. Wow. And he thought it was the best thing in the world. See, I don't really like anything that goes with the turkey dinner. I don't like mashed potatoes. I don't like cranberry sauce. I don't like turkey. I don't like stuffing. You don't like stuffing? Okay, I feel like I could change your mind on the homemade stuffing recipe that I Hear me out, everybody. I grew up On stovetop stuffing, you buy the stuffing in a box. yeah. You add whatever. Mashed potatoes, you buy it in a box, you add whatever. Cranberry sauce, you just buy the can. Right. So me and my brother would literally just like stuff ourselves with pickles. Because my mom would always cut up pickles, and like that's what we stuffed ourselves with. my goodness. Because everything else was so nasty. That's so sad for you. Yeah. I feel like we need to make you a redemption. Yeah, a redemption. Yeah. Absolutely. No, but I would way rather ham and like I like potatoes every other way. Yeah, I'll e no you gotta mash with like chives and cheese and bacon bits. Yeah. That's the only way. Garlic But not just like mashed in salt and pepper. Like just milk butter. You wanna know what I wanna do with my potatoes this year? Not that I have a ton. maybe I do. I doubt it though. is I want to make a bunch of gnocchi Okay. And freeze it. Yeah. Tell me how it goes. I'll keep you posted. Well it'll depend on how many potatoes we have. Yeah. I mean my in-laws will have tons of potatoes so I'm sure we will be. Yeah. Fine. Fine. We're also just You just mash it and then turn it into the little balls or what? Well it's like you cook it and then you make like a pasta out of it. Yeah. And then you cut it you make the dough and then you cut it into balls and then you roll it with a fork or something and make it gnocchi Don't know, I've never done it. Yeah. Just the idea of it sounds fun. That does sound fun. But yeah. We are so off topic as perfect. Okay, Jorim has a Bone to pick with this word and the way people use it. And I want to know how you guys feel about this. Homesteader. Like, I'm a homesteader. I'm homesteading. How do we feel about this word? Because Jorim's always like, because I joke, like, Jorim I'm a homesteader. I have chickens and I have my garden. And he's like, you're not homesteading. For him, it's like, unless you are off the grid, you're not homesteading. I can do it. I would say off the grid, but not full-on solar panel so you can live normally just not hooked up to a power line. Does that make sense? Because there are people that are like, we homestead and we don't have power and you're like, you have a full-on solar system set up. Like nothing in your life is different than my life. Just because I'm hooked into a power line And you're hooked up to a battery. Right. You were not like that's not homesteading. Okay. Yes. That's funny. How do you feel about this? Yeah, like hm. I guess it depends on. Would call yourself a homesteader? No. Okay. Not even close. Okay. I didn't this place is I did nothing. I mean I I do things that homesteaders would do, but I'm not. Have you seen my garden? We ain't surviving. To me, homesteading almost is like On the prairie. I mean that's like pioneering though. Cause I think there's a difference between pioneering and homesteading. Okay, explain that. Yeah. Pioneering to me is like you are just coming in, there's nothing. Like these fields are not have not been touched at all. And you have to like clear the land. And all that. Which I find not very many people do that nowadays. No. But like homesteading, I don't know where I sit with that one. I'm like, I don't know where I sit with it. I've got nothing against it. I do have something against if you're claiming to be your homesteader trad wife and somebody else is working out to pay for all of it. Yes. I don't think that's right. Necessarily. Yeah, I think homesteading, I agree with that. Like homesteading is more like you're really depending on What comes out of your garden. What comes out of your garden. And can like to me, like like your We all have established that I don't think eat things out of a box. So I feel like in the normal world I would be considered a homesteader. I'd think you're more because than me, 'cause I eat many things out of boxes. And bags Except mashed potatoes. Except mashed potatoes. but like I wouldn't consider myself a homesteader. I think homesteading like everything in your house is like your own. You made it you made those pillows with your sheep. Yeah. Like I don't know. Yeah, I think you'd have to figure out like what your terminology of homestead is. Yeah. 'Cause a lot of people get homestead and hobby farm. Like I tie them together. Yeah. And I would say homesteading would be like no power, you're hauling water into your house. You're like, you know, pumping it out or fishing it out of the creek with a pail and Yeah. I'm not a You're cooking your own fish. Yeah. And you're like, I don't know, yeah. Like canning everything, your garden is huge, you're putting produce up, you're like you know where's not buying potatoes by June. You're still eating your own potatoes. Yeah. Well and like You don't have all the modern conveniences. Yeah. Like you're like what? Like washer and dryer? Water in your house? A dishwasher. Light switches? Dishwasher. Yeah. I have the definition of homesteading. Ooh. Okay. Versus it's loading actually. Okay. Let's see. Cause I did not pre I think I looked at it once and then I was like, What's Jorims? Yeah, what's his Jorims is like, yeah, like no power, no amenities, like you're peeing in the bush, like But to me, like you could have an outhouse. You know who I think homestead to me that also seems a little extreme. Like you'll have to have that, but yeah. You're creating all your own herbal mixtures and okay, the core elements. Homestead is the practice of living largely self-sufficient lifestyle on a piece of land typically by growing your own food. Raising animals, producing many of the goods, resources you'd rather than relying on an outside system. So growing food, raising animals, food preservation, reducing dependency on grocery stores, utility companies, commercial supplies, and living off the land. Yeah, see? But I would say I would say the way that we say it is more extreme than what that says. But this is yeah. So we're probably more on the historical side. Tied to the Homes that are active, eighteen sixty two. This is in the US. Where settlers could claim public land by living on it and improving it, building a home, farming, etc. So that's how so our ours is like a most people don't homestead anymore. We have a neighbor. They homestead it. Yes. They live off off grid. yeah. Yeah. They haul their water in, like they have it set up really nice. They have an outhouse. Like that to me is homesteading. Yeah. If you can walk down your stairs or across the room and use a flushing toilet and hop in a shower, that's not turn on a light switch. You're not homesteading. See, whereas the first definition would say that that's still homesteading. Well it's cutting out modern Like you don't have a dishwasher. I don't. I live in a very tiny house. Yeah, I would almost call that homesteading. But I still have to the only thing you have is power, basically. I do have power. And my bathroom is still in my house. She's got running water. Yeah. But I would almost still call that homesteading. I guess off of that definition, yes. If your garden did good this year, then you would be homesteading. Yeah, if you were trying the grasshoppers. The grasshoppers But look how many like pests took out like Little House in the Prairie. yeah. They had a grasshopper problem. Yeah. That went through and ate everything. But they like homesteaded. I would say out of the three of us, you're the most homesteader. Yeah, but I still wouldn't say that I'm homesteading. Yeah. We didn't You drive to town every day. I don't actually I try like once a week with that. But But in the wintertime We didn't make our driveway. We didn't make our yard site. The g the house, the old log house on our place, that guy homesteaded. That's the homestead. Yeah. Right. That was like the neighbor that lived here prior to us and prior to his parent Keith's parents. Yeah. He homesteaded this, I would say. So would you say that homesteading is like a dying out, phasing out thing then? Yes. Yes. And if they just are hobby farming. Yes. And they're trying to make themselves look like they're feel better. Woo Interesting. You don't just like you. Not that we have anything against anybody else. No, like I don't care how you live or what you choose to do. Yeah, a hundred percent. But my definition of homesteading was the more historically. Like that's what yeah, like my grandparents homesteaded. Yeah. yeah, totally. They had Jorim's grandparents a pulley platform, whatever thing to cross the river. Mm-hmm. So that anytime they had to go to town in their car, it was always across the river. And then they'd like ride the little platform and walk in. They Built a log house. Yeah. Mm mm off the land. yeah. Raised like three boys, no power. They had an outhouse. It f kind of fell through when we were kids. Yeah. That's a pretty good outhouse though. The last impressive. Pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. You're not getting like home hardware to come out and deliver all your lumber like lumber, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess we're building maybe a little bit more homesteady. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that you're building your own homestead. We're kind of kind yeah. I mean there will be power in running water. So yeah. But the con like the I guess we have a chain sawmill, not an axe. Because the log house on our place, they axed the walls. They axed them. Yeah. So they're round on the top and the bottom, but the sides are flat ish. And they chopped them. That's crazy. That's impressive. Yeah. So we have a sawmill. We're probably using straw bales. To insulate. To insulate. Stuff like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, like it's probably off the land kind of building. But also it's not because we're putting in modern conveniences. Yeah. I think for the first time in my life I'll get a dishwasher. You are gonna put a dishwasher on You were kind of on the fence about it. I think I might. I have not, nobody hold me to this or be like, you said you knew it because I don't know if I can commit. It's really Okay, let me tell you, the last like three years I've not had a dishwasher. So doing farm suppers, doing all the farm suppers is like you get all the dishes back and you're just like, my goodness, I need to wash all these dishes. Dang dishes. And then I got a dishwasher this year. And I'm just like, they bring me the boxes and I'm like, yes, give them to me. I can just throw it in my dishwasher. It's amazing. Yeah, I love a dishwasher. It saves a lot of time. It does. Mine finally saves a lot of time. Mine finally grew up. Yeah, that's true. And she like now I can just be like, hey Han, you wanna do dishes tonight? And she's got them cleaned, washed, dried, put away, done. Okay, well there you go. So like, you know I know a lot of kids that won't do that. That's valid. She actually really likes dishes. Yeah. If there's like if I'm like, hey, like, we're gonna do something, like what do you want? She the first thing she wants is dishes. Dishes. Or cleaning. They play she plays princesses, like those old Disney movie princesses a lot. But it's not like the princess version with like the poofy dress and the tiara. It's like the Snow White scrubbing the floors kind of princesses. That's her kind. Version version. That's funny. That's funny. That was a hot topic. We went to Let us know what you think about what's like do you guys think what do you think about homesteading and hobby farming? Yeah. Because I do know a lot of people I'm friends with call themselves homesteaders and stuff. Which is whatever, but this could open us up to a really hot debate. No, I'm sorry if I've offended anybody. I think at the end of the day, I don't think any of us are against it. No, at the end of the this just our definition of it. Like Totally. Well Jorim is against people saying that they're homesteading. He's so like if I'm like, hey Jorim like this person on Instagram is like saying they're homesteading, he's like, that's not homesteading. Yeah, see, like some things aged out in my grandparents' generation. Yeah. Which is kinda funny because if you talk to when I talk to David's grandma, she grew up how my dad grew up. So I grew up because we were so far up the Alaska Highway. Yeah. It was homesteaded like a whole generation after. So I grew up like a generation behind. Yeah. So yeah, like my lifestyle looked like David's dad's growing up childhood. Yeah. Yeah. Not David's. Yeah. Cause like My mom grew up with like T V and all that kind of stuff and we didn't. Yeah, that makes sense. That came We never had like actual T V, but we didn't even we couldn't even get a T V or anything until I was older. Like I remember phones. Yeah, k land landlines and all of that coming in. Yeah. Well that's that's crazy. That's interesting too, 'cause like I was trying think. They like Keith Keith probably f is Keith's probably at least trying to think 'cause his grandparents didn't have power. Granny and granddad didn't have power. They beat the power guy out here essentially. Yeah. Built. And then but yet they did 'cause the quanset which is what he lived until he was like I think f four no, till he was like eight. Yeah. Maybe. I can't four, eight, something like that. It was very like it had running water. Yeah. Had power, but they didn't I'm trying to think. I know they didn't have T V. Yeah. So he's probably more like yeah, no. Slightly he might have been a little bit farther ahead of us. Yeah, definitely. I think it came f here first. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? But like, you know, like some things you can't just go clear government land anymore and get it. No. I think some things just age out and it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. That's what homesteading homesteading aged out. Yeah. Because like as much as our life and you know, like people are like homesteading is a lot of work. I wish I could go back to Like back when, you know, our grandparents came to get land simpler. Simpler, no. Yeah. I feel like it wasn't simpler. In some ways. In some ways, yes. But also, there wasn't politics, but the amount of work that those people did. Like sweat labor. Yeah. Yeah. Because they didn't have all the modern tools that we have now. Like granddad was up there clearing up north. Yeah, grandpa was always clearing. Like there was a reason there was such distinct roles too in what women did and what men did. Yeah, a hundred percent. You know, like grandma had to keep the kids alive and everyone fed and put food on the table, which you can't just go to the grocery store and get food. Yeah. You know, like my dad remembers getting an orange for Christmas. Yeah. And that being like very exciting. Yeah. Whereas we're like, we get oranges every other week. Yeah. To get your vitamin C basically. Exactly. Right. Yeah. And grandma had to put in a huge garden and had to do all the canning. And I think in our this is my beef with this, is in our generation of being like we homestead and we wanna be like our grandparents. Like we have no concept of how hard because simple things like just trying to shower. How the how do you get your kids ready for church? Yeah. You know, like they all have to shower. Now you have to beat the water. In the same tub. Cleanest to dirtiest level. But like, you know, you're hauling it in from the creek or whatever your sources. Yeah. In pails. Yeah. And then you're heating it in a big wood stove. Mm-hmm. You're not just turning on a tap So as much as there's a lot of stuff that I do that's like canning and gardening and all this stuff. I still have modern conveniences to help with to help with that. So the workload, I would say, is like different. Quarter of the quarter of it. Yeah. Well, okay, that's the other thing too, is there is this kind of like romanticized I'm a homesteader. But you're also kind of taking away from the people who genuinely did Yeah. Homestead because it was tough and it was more about survival than it was just like a Yeah, and I know a lot of like grandma's generation who when they could, they took it because they had worked so hard their entire life. Yeah. So when power came, Absolutely. Grandma was like, I can sit down. Yeah. The chair that's in my house is actually getting used now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like by homesteading we're kinda taking away that aspect of respect and appreciation for our grandparents and their generations that actually put a ton of work into making this. Yeah. Yeah, I do think there's something to make your own food and knowing where your food comes from and like all that. I'm not gonna that. Yeah, but what I am I you almost need like another term for the modern term homesteader versus like I'm a modern homesteader. Yeah, like there is great. Yeah, because that's what I think. But you're not I'm all for if you wanna can and grow your own garden and make your cheese and do your things. But your life Isn't dependent on it. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Your family isn't dependent on it. And most of the time people that like homestead, or at least the ones I know, like they still even have electric heat. Right. Or at least as a secondary. So they have a wood stove for like a it's cozy kind of situation, but that's not what's heating the house. yeah. A hundred percent. They're not all huddled up by the wood stove unless the power is out. Everybody's sleeping in the living room. If the power goes out and it changes your life drastically, you're not homesteading. that was good. That was good. I like that. That was good. Okay. Yeah. I'm on board. I'm on board what I'm saying now. I support that. When you're like, I can't flush my toilet. Yeah. You're not homesteading. Yeah. No, that was good. I like that. That was ten out of ten. I want a sticker. Yeah, we need we need a shirt. I need a shirt. That was good. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. everyone's speechless. Yeah, I was just like, okay. You nailed it. You nailed the definition. It took an hour of conversation. To find the definition. Yeah. You like nailed it on the hat. I would say our modern version of homesteading is more on the topic of hobby farming though. Mm-hmm. Because you have all the amenities You want to be self-sufficient, you enjoy the animals, whatever. Yeah. That would be my mix. I do think there's a little bit of a difference between hobby farming. And trying to be self-sufficient because there are people that don't care about being self-sufficient. That is true. But the animals are hobby farm. Yeah, they have a hobby farm. And to me, that like you don't eat the chickens. You don't eat the yeah. Okay, you know what I mean? You're right. I think there is two different categories still here. I agree. Okay, so what are we gonna name? What are we gonna name this category? We need a name. Yeah, because you are right. There is some hobby farmers that like it's because the animal is cute. It's not actually to sustain yeah there is a difference yeah there is a difference I do agree with that are you you know like yeah we need we need to come up with like two different definitions of different names yeah we should yeah I don't know what it would be we'll brainstorm we'll brainstorm we're solving all the world problems right now can you tell that's yeah Okay, I have a question. Okay. What do you guys feel is like what what do you do that you would qualify as like hobby farm, modern homesteading things that you do? Like milking my cow? Yeah. Yeah, totally. Your chickens. Milking my cow, my chickens. Your bees. Bees. Do you do canning? Yep. Just canned a buttload of pickles. Okay, did I s I don't know if I shared this in the last episode or not? Can't remember if mm, I don't know. I made twenty-five I don't think you did. Quartz. Twenty-six quarts. Of pasta sauce. Ooh. A girlfriend of mine was like, cause Desert Hills came to town. Yeah. Like, we'll buy tomatoes. We're like, perfect, so we decided to go pasta sauce. I was gonna get twenty five pounds. She c I'm getting fifty. I was like, fifty? She go Well yeah, it cooks down. I've never cut so many tomatoes in my life. And we were like, we'll be done by like one o'clock. It was like 6 p.m. and we hadn't even water bath canned them yet. A, we decided the propane burner was a better choice. Yeah. Her husband, similar to mine, was like, for example. We took her car through the lineup. Mm-hmm. But between our big orders and then she picked up a couple other things for a couple big orders, we needed both of our vehicle. Like I had to go get my vehicle. Back through the line. No, I didn't. I just pulled up to the front because they were loading us and we would run out of room. So I at parked jumped in with her because we're like, it'll be quick, whatever. Yeah. We had to go get my car and it was fully loaded. And ke Keith says to me, I could have told you to just take the one ton had I known what you were taking. But they also have a truck. So he just assumed that we were taking the truck. yeah. So he was like, why didn't you say something you were taking the car? I was like, I didn't know. So then we're cooking this. We're cooking it on her stove, which is like an electric stove like mine. First off, our pots weren't big enough for the amount of sauce we had. No. So we had to like let them cook down and then like add more tomatoes. Did you do any in the oven? No. Because you can always cook down in the oven. Definitely make if you need more room. We for other people, you can cook tomatoes down in the oven. There you go. We ended up just breaking out their camp stove and a propane burner and putting some on there as well. On there as well. Anyways, it has sold my decision to buy a propane stove or a gas stove for the shop to can it because canning on an electric stove actually takes It takes so long. And you can't Can't just crank it now. You can't just crank it, but also the heat kinda like with the supply I am very like we are putting a propane stone in our house. Yes. Okay, so we have an electric, but it has the coils. Still. It's like the older style coils. Those work great still. But when you have a glass top, it always it gets hot and then it gets cold and then it gets hot and then it gets cold. I hate that. Yeah, it's the worst. You can't like have a constant boil for like twenty minutes. In her home. my god. It was so her husband's like opening windows, like you name it. It was anyways, we underestimated. S and so that's the first time doing pasta sauce. I did peaches again this year. I've got jam from last year. Mm. What else? I don't know, my canning shelf looks pretty good right now. What else? I don't know. I make my own yogurt, but that's kind of part of having a milk cow. Yeah. Cheese. Modern homesteady. Very modern homestead. Very like use my dishwasher, use my electric stove. Yeah. Have a refrigerator. Do you know what I mean? Like we got some things here. We're we're not doing homestead activities when the power goes out. Yes. No. I cannot homestead when the power goes out. We will be though in the shop because it'll be gas. Yeah, that'll be nice. But Power to the water. Maybe not. Yeah. I was lying. I'm just kidding. We'll hook up the generator when the power goes out Like a wood stove. You gotta do it on a wood stove. Okay, girlfriend. Do you know I looked. My grandparents didn't have propane for a long time. Yes wood stove. It makes you more the full but like one of those bougie wood stoves that probably cost as much as my gosh. The ones where you can put the like you can get like a bread attachment to go on. Okay, but like the ol there are older wood stoves that are actually really nice. Like grandma's We're talking like cook stove, by the way. Like wood cook stove, not just like a wood stuff. Grandma's had a warmer and it had a water box. So there was always hot water. yeah. And then like the top and the oven and like it's more condensed. Like the modern ones are fancier. Yeah, they're fancier. Like the aspects. Yeah. There's like Do you see the part underneath? Have you seen those wood stoves? It's like an old one. I don't know if they make new ones like this. I no idea. And it's got like you open it and it's got a place for you to like cook your bacon. I've seen like the propane though. No no this one was wood. This one was this one is wood. The one that I seem was wood. Cause she shows how to like load the back of it. For anyways, I thought that was cool. But Something I think is so funny. This is probably where Jorims like, that's not our homesteader. You get some of those like homestead or like trad wife pages that come up and I follow some are great. I really enjoy them. But this one that I had seen was like, she said she's making her living off homesteading, but that's like a thirty thousand dollar stove or something like that. Guaranteed her husband paid for or somebody else paid for that. Homesteading didn't pay for that. And I was like, Ooh. Yeah. Maybe. Very cute. Fits the aesthetic. Yeah. Yeah. Probably didn't pay for it homesteading. Yeah. Yeah. Just unless it was inherited, but I he pulled up the brand. The guy the guy did a debrief on it. Yeah. Definitely wasn't. But anyways, each of their own is gorgeous. If I you what that's how you'll know make it one day. videos. yeah, by the social media aspect. Social media aspect of homesteading is probably That is another whole thing. Is there's a lot of Trinity Volta Is there's a lot of in quotation marks, homesteaders who are posting all over Instagram from the states. And it's you're not homesteading, you're making money off of all these Instagram posts. I mean, hats off though to the society that has made it so you can make money doing it. I mean, go for it. Yeah. Get it. Heck yeah. If you're I mean, it depends. Are you all were you already doing it? Or did you decide to do it to make content? Yes. I guess would be my like totally like for example, I started a lot of people probably actually do start doing it. And then they're like, hey, I this isn't paying for itself. This is gonna like a hundred percent we aren't gonna eat. Like, Make something so that we can feed the family. And also thank you for making the content so I have recipes and things. yeah, hundred percent Or like, ooh, I like that in my kitchen. Or I would do this doing or like, that's a great way to can something. I'm only pickle recipe? Totally off the internet. yeah. It's a tangy dill pickle. No. I'm only dill. No this no tang. I'm No tang. I like a tangy sandwich dill pickle. No, no sweet, no tang. K. when you do Just straight dill. Dill and garlic and vinegar. So that's what mine is. Why is it tangy? It's got more vinegar in it. okay, okay. And sugar. But you shouldn't Okay. Mine is less. Mine is less sugar than my dill pickle. Classic dill. Yes, if you will. She might be on board, TV determined. I was stealing dill. Okay, again, I'm not a gardener, if if anybody is recognized, really not a gardener. She's not a homesteader. Yeah, this is where I fail on the homesteading mark. I'll milk the cow. I'll have the chickens. Cannot garden to save my life. Yeah. My mother-in-law has tons of dill, so I was like out there stealing dill. Do you want to know something that I never thought I'd run out of for some reason? Mustard seed. That seems like it's always in my pantry for canning. It's pro and like a minimum a few recipes. I don't use it in a ton of recipes, but I use it in canning in like maybe four recipes. Yeah. Do you think I could find mustard seed? I had prepped all my all my cukes to be pe to be pickles. And I go to look for everything. I'm like just about to start the brine. And there's no mustard seed anywhere. Did your mother-in-law have some? She did. So I got running to her. And she poor poor thing. Yeah, they also need She's very good about the deal. She's very, very good about all but like run up there. She's on the phone. I was like, no. I ran up there with lunch for Keith. Yeah. Because he was working on a water system up there. And I forgot forks in our little wait, shout out to you, Miss Trin. Me. I used an apple box to haul up all our lunch to mom and dad's yesterday. They're great. I hauled it up on the quad. It was so nice. Yeah. Ten out of ten. Anyways, besides pointing, but I forgot to throw forks in. So I went into her house. Yeah. I was like, I'm stealing these two forks. I'll be back as soon as we do lunch. And she was like, What? She thought I was returning her two forks. I was like, no, I haven't even used them yet. We're gonna go eat in the quad. Yeah. I will return your forks. Then when I went back and she was on the phone, I was like, I need mustard seed. She probably thought I was being so needing. Yes, yeah. And it she didn't care. She was so good about it. I just gave her like a big hug. Cause like mustard, I didn't even think to check my cupboard for it. No, because it's just I thought I had tons. And I just bought some last year. I know I did. She probably s knows. Like it probably doesn't bother her because she lives out here. She knows. Because like growing up. You didn't go like we called grandma or the aunts or the neighbors. Like if you were out of something you're calling something. You're calling the neighbors. And like there was there was a lot of like, hey, I need a cup of flour. Or I mean generally more than a cup. But like I need six cups of flour. Do you have baking powder? Do you have like whatever? Mm-hmm. I just feel like 'cause I feel like nine times out of ten I'm running to her. I don't think she's hard to ever. I mean she's been here longer. Yeah, she's she understands how to stock a pantry. yeah. 100%. Yeah. I think with the one thing I like slack on is probably the spice side of my pantry. My freezers are pretty stocked. And my pan like there are certain staples. If I'm down to one bag, I I put it on my list. Right. Like oats. It goes on my list as soon as I like fill a canister because we go through so many oats. Oats. It's just one of those things. Same with like flour. Yeah. But now I And also most of us only go to town like once a week. Yeah. Like that's all I've been doing all summer. I don't grocery shop once a week. I grocery shop once a week. It depends what I know. How often do you grocery shop? Yeah, how often are you grocery shopping? I try to keep it to like once one a Once month or once every two to three months. Even for your fresh, like pro like berries and stuff or what? Yeah, what do you do with like veg in summertime veg we also kinda seasonal eat, if that makes sense. Right. So we're not eating salad every day in winter. That's fair. Yeah. And I'm like a I hate grocery shopping. What about like apples? So Do you have apples? stocked they last. They do last. But like also my family doesn't eat apples that much. no. What's like your go to berry fruits? Whatever. My kids eat a lot of frozen like frozen fruit. yeah, that's fair. They eat a lot of frozen fruit straight out of the freezer and and then I'll freeze dry fruit. From frozen fruit. my goodness, I have an idea about freeze dried fruit and our I have an idea about this. Okay. I'm not gonna share it on here because I don't know if it's a good idea, but I think we're on She'll share it later. Yeah, I'll share it. Yeah, I'll share it later. If you think it's good. That's hilarious. It'll be like a dual effort thing. But what do kids snack on? Because like I have snacky kids. I don't really have snacky kids. Yeah. So okay. My son, however, has an emotional support yogurt. No, like, you know how you can buy When we have enough milk I make my own. He prefers that and then I mix I hate seeds in jam. So I juice everything and then make it into jelly. That's a wild take. Interesting. Tell me more about this. I understand that though. Yeah. Wait, especially like raspberry. Yeah, raspberry. What? No. I feel like the seeds is what makes raspberry jam. Yes, but I prefer jelly. I see what you're saying. Okay. Should rather jelly. Yeah, I make like seedless jam. Yeah, I don't I feel like the difference between jam and jelly is one is like seeds and skin and all that. Right. And one is just juiced. Yeah. Thickened. Juiced thickened. How do you feel about Saskatoons? They're so straight seedy. Off the bush, fine. Actually But they're still so seedy. I juiced Saskatoons. And David said that they're really good at juiced. He really likes them juiced. If he was gonna drink like a juice, he'd like a Saskatoon juice. He does like the Saskatoon juice. But they're mostly like to bite into it's not like a juicy berry. It's like a dry seedy thing. It's a dry seedy thing. I don't know if this is just from my childhood because my mom my grandma always made saskatoon pie. Yeah. I love Saskatoon. I hate Saskatoon. Like I love You eat anything in pie. Yeah, no pie. Like I would say pumpkin pie and saskatoon pie. Are your favorite. Are my like those are your least favorite things? Absolute favorite things. Absolute favorite. That when I think saskatoon, I'm like, pie. But like have you ever made Saskatoon jam? No. Why? I've had yeah. Have you? Like my mother in law does. she does? Yeah. I don't know anyone that does Saskatoon jam. Really? I should text my I wonder if she'd put something with it though. If she got too like my family'll do like Saskatoon rhubarb, raspberry, yeah. Saskatoon rhubarb. But never just a straight up saskatoon jam. Killel, let's make a Saskatoon jam next year. I'm texting Helen. Jelly. If we made it into jam, it would be all seeds. All seeds. More than raspberries? Anyways, yes. We raspberry seeds are tiny, tiny, tiny. Yeah. Where Saskatoon seeds like huge Maybe if just romanticized Saskatoons that I can't even like see this right now. So funny. They're so sweet. We ate a ton of Saskatoons. I'm always like Growing Up just tastes like seeds. And I prefer seeding seeds. That's so funny that you said that, because I think it was Helen, I'm pretty sure it was Helen who had said S they ate she d she doesn't like love saskatoons because that's but they ate so much. We're growing up too Saskatoons. Somebody that's what grew everywhere. It was easy in the In Saskatchewan. Yeah. That's what was there. Was Saskatoons. Now it's Hascaps. That's like the Yeah, but they don't grow wild. No. you're speaking of growing wild. I was supposed to go wild blueberry picking this Monday. I did not make it 'cause I had such And I'm so sad because my mother-in-law she picked six gallons of blueberries. That's what she picked. I don't know how good are they. I have some, we can try some. No, but where are we going for these? I will tell you, not on here. It is a thing. It's like hunters when they go to their like I go to the mountains. I have a blueberry spot too. Everybody always. My problem is that nobody ever wants to well, A, I don't let anyone come with. B the mosquitoes would eat them. I think I've been with you once. Yeah, but the mosquitoes kill you. Yeah. Like it's like a full on hazmat suit. This is definitely like wear your bee suit. now we're getting somewhere. Now we're getting somewhere. this is like out in the mountains. yeah. Like two hours from town. wow. the mine are like in the backyard. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so they but these are so plentiful. Yes. So it is worth the two hour drive. Well for six gallons, yeah. That's what she picked. That doesn't include. yeah. She said yeah, and she said Huckleberries. They went to today They went today and I was supposed to go and I like, I'm recording, I can't go. No. But yes, like so good. Okay, anyways. We'll discuss this off the podcast. Yes. That's people don't want to hear weekend plans. that nobody knows anything about the blueberries. They're they're like all over up there. I don't think it matters. Everyone has a spot. It's fine. I would love a blueberry yet. My husband will not. It depends on kids. Because he is trying to get the house done. No, I'm but like ever would he ever go blueberry picking? My husband would come along with a gun. Okay, that's probably what mine would do. But you wanna know what's funny? He I think he got dragged as the youngest picking often. you mentioned berry picking. He just pfft he's got he's like, whoop, gone. Where's Keith? David's like Jorim is so fast at berry picking. I'm like, do but I also inspect for bug I hate bugs. See, I Are you a clean picker? Yeah. It's funny because I don't like raspberries because there's always bugs in raspberries. This is why you juice it, because then the bug is dead and strained. Dead and strained. Wow, that's a wild thing. Okay, go on. I don't even know where I was going with this. Back to the homesteading thing. My hus my son's emotional support. yeah! I don't know how we got here. Sorry. But where are we? Those half gallon. like half gallon jar. And he just puts a straw in it. So I'll like mix it. And berries. Well I'll I'll put like the jelly stuff in it. And then you can just like run it through the kitchen aid or the blender or whatever and it's like really smooth and Do you drain the whey out of your yogurt? depends how thick I want it. I like and how much whey I like mine thick and lately it has not been thick, so I'm like pull it through a cheesecloth. I do. Yeah. 'Cause it drives me nuts. It's like drinking a yop plately. It's been That's the texture of yogurt I like. I do not like thick when we don't have milk. So I can make yogurt. Then you know when you know those refill big drinkable refill pouches? Yeah. He just packs one of those around. Does he really and he has to still like And his yogurt in there? Yeah, like the it's like a big like you can buy them at the grocery store and it's like a big what is it? Literally apples. I think it's a liter. Yeah. Are you drinking one of those a day? And it's got like this bout Well, see, he they only come in peach, raspberry, and vanilla. So he'll get like all of them and then he rotates through what day. But like if you take him anywhere, he's like hugging his little bottle of yogurt. my gosh, and then he'll like unscrew the lid and suck up. Like 'cause it works like a little food pouch, you know? Yeah. Except it's like a liter of an adult size. my goodness. Okay, I have seen those, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he's wild. The little ones are too small. Okay, well that's what he snacks on all day. Yeah. We still have guts of Those are way too small. k k we're Yops. I don't know if anybody else's mom did this. My mom would treat us to a Yop at the grocery store. Like we got to open the Yop in the grocery store. And then she would scan it when you're leaving. And we thought that was like the coolest thing in the entire world. Yeah my sister inlaw does that with the apple sauce puches Yeah, I don't know. A yop for us was like a treat. My brother lived I remember my brother like Big yop guy. Very big yop guy. But like I remember being like, This is the best thing in the world. That's funny. I don't know why. We weren't allowed to do it with fruit. Definitely did it with yop 'Cause you have to It's a weigh fruit, I know. weigh fruit. So you can only do It's like, my gosh, I've seen the cutest thing safe. I never shop at Safeway. But some actually some of my best stories, grocery store. Grocery stores have the best people watching Just saying. This is tells you how much of a homesteader I am not, because I'm still going to a grocery store. Yeah anyway. I always meet you at the grocery store. Yeah. It's a great place to meet. The cutest thing, this little boy, his mom had grapes like in the front of the cart. And he was like eating them every time she looked away. And I was like, that kid's gonna have that whole bag ate bags of the And he was like, but he was so sweet because he was like, Yes, ma like he's talking to her. His mom's so sweet and he's like plopping them in. Whether she knew or not, I have no idea, but I did not have the heart to be like, Your kid's mom that entire bag of grapes. My niece will do that with a head of lettuce. What? No. Like crunch just crunching on the lettuce. Crunching on a lettuce. my sister in law turns around and she's just eating off the Lettuce tops. my goodness. That's wild. That's very sweet. I'm not a lettuce person, so I never grow lettuce because it's always just like there's so many bugs in lettuce. there's always a billion aphids. Those those green ones? Yes. yeah. There's always so many in lettuce. I'm not More protein in the salads. So okay, what are you making that makes you a homesteader? What do y what are your hobbies that make you a homesteader? 'Cause you're probably the most homesteader? Well, I have like a greenhouse and a garden. Like a big greenhouse. Yeah. Huge greenhouse. And a big garden. Yeah. And every year except this year, when the grasshoppers ate everything. You like sustainable. Yeah, like I like all my potatoes are and then like peas, corn. Garlic, onions. Yeah. I don't actually have a milk cow, but But you milk your own. But you milk family members' cow. Yeah, yeah. I do a ton of canning, obviously. What's your favorite thing to garden? I don't know. Actually, speaking of canning, I love I love juicing. Because you just drop the apples in. Like I do apple juice in How do you juice? I use a steam juicer. okay. Yeah, see. I just plop in and then it steams and then I just c and then it's ch done. Yeah, and I don't actually have a steam juicer, I just borrow. Yeah. but it's only been the last couple years. Otherwise, like I have to make it in a pot and then you have to like sieve it all out. Yeah. Strain it through a cheesecloth. Get a steam juicer, people. I have worth it juice and I don't think I utilize it. I tried to make juice apple juice and I was like I don't really care. Like Really? I don't know why. I have a whole bunch of peaches. When we were down in Lake Country I brought peaches, blueberries and cherries home. Yeah. So I have a bunch of peaches that I need to juice. you're gonna juice it. You're not gonna can peaches. No, like we don't eat canned peaches. We do juice. Juice is a bigger hit over and then I'll do it as like a jelly. I love doing crepes with like peaches though. yeah. Like the your can your own canned peaches with crepes. So good. Love it. I made the mistake last year of not doing freestone peaches. What? They're it's like called freestone peaches. If you don't do them the pe the pitch horrible, it's always horrible. I didn't know you could get ones that are nice too. If you get free stone peaches in the case. They just pop out. They pop out and they p they peel easier. Everything about them is they're bigger. They're meant for canning. Meant for canning. I didn't know this was a thing, so I just bought whatever they had the one time and I was like, I'm never doing this again. Yeah. And then my mom brought home freestone peaches and I was like, this is a thing. Yeah. The second time around was way better. Peaches are kind of done now, aren't they? Probably pretty close to the end of the season. I'm on the fence if I wanna. I don't have time. This is the thing. fall hits Yeah. And you don't have time for And I have no time. But tomatoes, peaches, all of this, you can throw in the freezer and then deal with it in winter. I always freeze my tomatoes. My problem is my house is just so small, and I have like a little two burner. Yeah. And it's glass cooktop so it does not heat. You gotta get one of those propane just the one you the ones I have the one pot yeah, one pot on. That's what I did. And my pots are small. and the house is like Do you know Sorry. Goes from like cold to hot. Yeah. 30 seconds and then it just doesn't cool down. So then it's too hot. Do you what we need to do next year? We need to go to like estate sales and garage sales. Because I feel like people are always getting rid of big canning pots. Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel like we're like missing out. Missing out. Okay. We're not we're anytime we hear of an estate sale. Yeah. Let's just call it. Okay, I might be some this fall. Like, what do mean? Do you know people that are dying No. No, I just mean like people it's going to come into winter, and I think sometimes people are like, hey, I'm getting older, I'm gonna move to town. And they do it in fall. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just the other thing you need to find is like an out-of-town sale. Yes. Because they have better so much. We're not utilizing estate sales. It's true. I agree with you. You need to like go to estate sales because they have like the they're getting rid of like all the goods. Yeah. Jars, your big pots, all of that. Jars are expensive. They are. They are so expensive. I never understood that, but like I thought I had a buttload of jars this year and then I went to go do my peaches I was like, I actually don't have enough jars. Jars. Like I and I don't know how that's even possible. Yeah. Jars are so expensive. It's crazy. I understand why they're a hot commodity and why people like want them b like I had one girlfriend, she had put her name on the bottom. yeah. And I was like, ten out of ten. Yeah we've returned them. Totally. 100%. I think I filled them when I returned hers. nice. Because I was like, well, why not? That's that's a good way to do it. But like, yeah, I don't know. I think there is something to like go to estate sales. Because I feel like we're missing out. But the best thing I ever bought on this topic of estate sales was the neighbor across the road from my mom's they passed away the son was like going through everything and i got this glass like container kind of like a brownie pan but it came with a lid and it was like a good quality not those like brittle lids that you get now like a good quality lid seals great fits great washes great loved it and like an old school flower sifter. a dollar I paid for it. my goodness See, my thing is like there's some really good stuff. Yeah. But vintage places are so expensive because it's like it's a trend. It's a trend. 100%. Yeah. And it's irritating to me because sometimes like I just want what I had growing up. yeah. Or like what my parents had grandparents had, you know, but you can't because you're paying 18 times more for it. That's crazy. Then If you just go buy one from the store. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah, I went to this vintage store in Prince Rupert and it was actually so cheap. I was like, This is crazy. Yeah. But even like thrift stores have gone up because it's a trend. Yeah. yeah. Anyways, I don't know how we divulged, but here we are. Yeah. This is us. All right, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining us. Have a good week.