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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, November 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Hello, good morning, Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Tuesday Jags Drive Time. I'm gonna turn the volume
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Speaker 1: up a little bit here. Uh. Energetic is the word
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Speaker 1: for today, right, the energetic. Let's be honest. Uh, the
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Speaker 1: Monday after the bye week, especially when you're on a
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Speaker 1: little losing skid, or longer four game losing skid. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're you're still thinking bye week. You're still thinking, man,
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Speaker 1: the weekend was so nice? Why are we here? Could
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Speaker 1: we go another day or two? Could we have another
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Speaker 1: bye week somewhere? Tuesday, though, you know, the locker room
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Speaker 1: was open. Coach talked, Uh, let's go right here, you go.
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Speaker 1: Totally different day, especially after hearing dun Morone, who was
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Speaker 1: fired up in this press conference, a confident locker room.
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Speaker 1: It brought more juice to the week. So there's some energy.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that. But let's start with a game
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Speaker 1: that we thought. We said yesterday that this game was
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Speaker 1: really important, but the Titans win last night in Dallas
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Speaker 1: really amps this one up. Because you're the Texans are
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Speaker 1: what have they had their buyer or they five and
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Speaker 1: three or they six and three. They've won six, six
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Speaker 1: and three. Uh, there's six and three. And so you
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Speaker 1: sit right now three games back and the Titans are
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Speaker 1: four and four. So now you go into Indianapolis on
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Speaker 1: Sunday and you've got a three and five Polts team
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Speaker 1: in a three and five Jaguars team. The winner stays close,
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Speaker 1: user falls way back at the pack um. And we
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Speaker 1: talked about this early. I didn't think the Colts are
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Speaker 1: any good. I still don't know how good they are.
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Speaker 1: They they've won two in a row, and they've beaten
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Speaker 1: the Bills and they've beaten the Raiders. Okay, I mean
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Speaker 1: two teams that are languishing where you see the roster
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Speaker 1: and you say, just not enough talent on the roster.
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Speaker 1: This team four straight losses, but you see talent on
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Speaker 1: one side of the ball that you think at least
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Speaker 1: can kind of get some momentum um. Still, it is
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Speaker 1: a huge It's an even bigger game on Sunday. And
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Speaker 1: if it's gonna go this way, because look, the Titans
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Speaker 1: look terrible to start the game last night. Marcus Mariota
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Speaker 1: fumbled the first two possessions and the third possession as well,
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Speaker 1: and it was overturned by uh instant replay. So I
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Speaker 1: mean you had a chance where they could have just
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Speaker 1: been blown out, which means that'll happen again. Right, you
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Speaker 1: thought it was over those first three drives. Absolutely, So
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Speaker 1: it's gonna go back and forth, and maybe the Colts
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Speaker 1: stay in this thing, maybe the Colts get you on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: and you know, who knows. But all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: now it's just it's it's ramping this thing up up up,
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Speaker 1: and Sunday in Indianapolis is going to whether it feels
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Speaker 1: that way or not, whether the Colts fans bring that
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Speaker 1: kind of energy to the stadium or not. Any player
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Speaker 1: in either locker room who just looks at the situation
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Speaker 1: Ashlan is going to know what's on the line. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: when we talked to the players yesterday in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: every single player brought up Andrew Luck as the Colts
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Speaker 1: quarterback and the story and would come back it's been
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Speaker 1: when he's the quarterback of the Colts, it's onto my
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Speaker 1: cleay is an important game no matter what. Well, and
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Speaker 1: look it's not as if he has the most talented
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Speaker 1: offense he's ever had up there. They're running game is
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Speaker 1: kind of hit and miss. It depends on Marlon Mack,
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Speaker 1: who has been often injured. The tight end they grabbed
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Speaker 1: from Detroit, Eric Abron has seven touchdowns. T Y Hilton
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Speaker 1: has had a hamstring problem, so he hasn't been a
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Speaker 1: percent yet. But luck is just so good and he
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Speaker 1: doesn't take sacks and he's not the kind of guy
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Speaker 1: to hold the ball too long. Um. The other thing is,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of an intangible He appears to
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Speaker 1: be a guy who's really enjoying playing again. The time off,
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Speaker 1: the long break in his career gave him a greater
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Speaker 1: appreciation maybe than the guy who really appreciated the game anyway.
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Speaker 1: He seems absolutely Uh. The other thing is, I knew
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Speaker 1: he was good. Um. The defense, they're not loaded with talent,
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Speaker 1: but they're playing better. They're playing better, So you got
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Speaker 1: your hands full on Sunday a game that I at
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Speaker 1: least I know. I said that's a win early and
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Speaker 1: we talked about defense that a win. I was wrong.
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Speaker 1: It's it's it will be the first time I'm wrong today,
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Speaker 1: let alone in my life. It's important game, but it really, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it really feels. Watching the end of that game last night,
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Speaker 1: seeing the result of it this morning in Dallas made
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Speaker 1: me think, oh, here we go. You know, nothing is
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Speaker 1: breaking the Jaguars way. I mean the Texans winning when
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Speaker 1: the Broncos missed makeuple kick at the end of the game,
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Speaker 1: that didn't break their way. Three fumbles early, right, and
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Speaker 1: it didn't break their way because the Cowboys fumbled away
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Speaker 1: in the second half, gave it away in the second half.
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Speaker 1: So things aren't breaking their way. You're not getting any
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Speaker 1: extra help, no, so now you gotta make it on
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Speaker 1: your own, absolutely, which leads us to big things because
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Speaker 1: there is a chance that maybe something's going to break
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Speaker 1: their way this week, we hope. So big thing one
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Speaker 1: is many happy returns. A few guys back at practice yesterday,
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Speaker 1: one of them being Leonard for Net, d J. Hayden
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Speaker 1: and Tyler Patman back at practice after injuries. Doug Brown said, yes,
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Speaker 1: that's great that Leonard Forron is back, but he's still weak.
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Speaker 1: A week on his mind and we'll just see how
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Speaker 1: it cost during a week, and Jared how things happened
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Speaker 1: during a week. It is really what um answers A
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Speaker 1: lot of those questions, you know, which you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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Speaker 1: you're worried about this guy. Is he gonna be able
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Speaker 1: to play? He's gonna play the full amount? And we
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Speaker 1: get the other guys ready enough. What plays that he
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Speaker 1: is he feel comfortable with? What plays other people feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable with. I mean, you go back and forth and
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Speaker 1: try to make sure because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: your jobs have trying to put the team in the
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Speaker 1: best you know, the best situational win. So obviously the
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Speaker 1: number one guy here is Leonard for net Um, and
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Speaker 1: it sure look to me like he felt good. I
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Speaker 1: know because I was walking outside to the practice field
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Speaker 1: yesterday the dream Finders Flex dream Finders Homes flex field.
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Speaker 1: I haven't had to say in a long time flex field,
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Speaker 1: dream find just say dream Finders, the dream Finders flex
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Speaker 1: field at Daily's place. And he came running behind me
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Speaker 1: and went right. He was obviously on the verge of
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Speaker 1: being late for practice, so he was hustling. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, Marcel Darius was running for step with him,
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Speaker 1: which was such a good thing to see your three
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Speaker 1: plus pound defensive tackle, who can move with that guy? Um,
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Speaker 1: But he took all the reps with that. We saw
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Speaker 1: you know with the first team early on UM and
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Speaker 1: as John said yesterday, if not now, when so now?
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Speaker 1: And and we're going to kind of rehash things all
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Speaker 1: week long because that's what you are and play a game.
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Speaker 1: If you have Carlos Hide and a healthy Leonard for
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Speaker 1: Net and you can get t J. Yeldon playing his
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Speaker 1: style of ball again, which is that change up back,
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Speaker 1: not the power bag. There's a reason to have some
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Speaker 1: energy in Jackson. It's promising because it sets up your
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Speaker 1: play action quarterback, and more importantly, it sets up your defense.
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Speaker 1: Your defense is not hopefully playing from behind because you
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Speaker 1: can play some ball control and do what you want
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Speaker 1: to do. And I know no one wants to talk
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Speaker 1: ball control today. They want to talk about They want
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Speaker 1: to talk about the Saints and the Rams. And I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest, I watched that game. It was entertaining. Yeah right,
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Speaker 1: I would like to see some of that too. I
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Speaker 1: love the running game and defense, but it's hard not
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Speaker 1: to really appreciate what they've got going in both of
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Speaker 1: those cities, and by the way, in both places, they
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Speaker 1: run the ball. UM. So getting for Net back again
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Speaker 1: a Doug kind of hedged his bet, and I get why.
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Speaker 1: Until the guy proves that he's gonna come and play,
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Speaker 1: then he hasn't come put right, and why should it
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Speaker 1: be excited? And he and he probably doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: answer any more questions about it. He's tired of it. Um,
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Speaker 1: But there's reason for hope. Now on the other side
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Speaker 1: of the bowl. Wait, wait, one more guy in the
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Speaker 1: offense side. James Shaughnessy was back at practice as well.
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Speaker 1: And look, I mean, let's not you know, make this
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Speaker 1: guy into Tony Gonzalez, but you're throwing to David Grinnage
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Speaker 1: in London and a guy off the practice squad, a
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Speaker 1: big body but not necessarily receiving tight end. And you
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Speaker 1: bring in Blake Bell. In fact, when you look at
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Speaker 1: the Handy depth chart here right, Austin's Ferry Jenkins should
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Speaker 1: have been number one. He's not even on here. Right
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Speaker 1: now you've got James O'Shaughnessy, David Grinnage and Blake Bell. Well,
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Speaker 1: Grinage was on the practice squad and Blake Bell came
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Speaker 1: to you via the street, right, um. And and so
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Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt have Ohauns back. You need to have
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Speaker 1: at least a guy that there's some semblance of a
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Speaker 1: rhythm a timing and understanding when when Blake ghets his
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Speaker 1: back foot, he knows, oh, Shaunessy's going to be right
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Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be. Right With the other two guys,
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Speaker 1: you're still working on that because they're at least there.
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Speaker 1: So O'Shaunessy coming back gives them someone, hopefully who can
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Speaker 1: help them move the chains right, keep drives alive. And
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Speaker 1: again we've said this, you know, since since last year's
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Speaker 1: divisional playoff game in Pittsburgh. The style of this team
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Speaker 1: wants to play is run the ball, open things up
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Speaker 1: underneath for tight ends, and then be able to take
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Speaker 1: their shots deep. And right now that whole thing has
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Speaker 1: been wrecked. Running back back on the other side, a
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Speaker 1: guy who is back is d J. Hayden Um. He
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Speaker 1: was playing well before he had the toe injury, and
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Speaker 1: now he's been out since early September. Who knows what
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Speaker 1: to expect. But I don't know that we see a
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Speaker 1: J boy A back this week. I mean maybe he practices.
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Speaker 1: He Yeah, when you're talking about that calfe injury, that
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Speaker 1: could be a two week deal, that could be a
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Speaker 1: six week deal. You know, I remember two thousand fourteen,
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Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis got one and he was gone for six
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Speaker 1: weeks um, so you could see that thing kind of
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Speaker 1: string along and they might just want to play it
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Speaker 1: cool with him, which now you can do a little
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Speaker 1: bit of because you got Hayden back and Pat so
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Speaker 1: Patman was playing Nickel in place of Hayden. Now Hayden
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Speaker 1: could step outside and Patman could go back to Nickel,
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Speaker 1: and you're not relying on Trey Herndon or Quentin makes it.
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Speaker 1: By the way, you don't have Quentin makes because of
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Speaker 1: the m c L injury. So Hayden is a key
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Speaker 1: piece to get back because at least he gives you
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Speaker 1: some things that you can do on defense, guys that
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Speaker 1: you can rely on. You're not pulling more guys up
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Speaker 1: from the practice squad. Yeah, they have options. And we
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Speaker 1: talked to d J. Hayden in the lock room yesterday.
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Speaker 1: He talks about just how frustrating something as little as
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Speaker 1: a toe injury is. Absolutely you know, it's of course
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Speaker 1: it's frustrated, not just uh, it's always frustrating not being
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Speaker 1: with your teammates. Man, he's just not being able to
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Speaker 1: play on the field. But but yeah, I'm ready, I'm
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Speaker 1: happy and super confident that he was ready to play.
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Speaker 1: This Spee left no doubt. And it was funny they
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Speaker 1: were asking, I, you know, it's it's just a toe.
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Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. It's like a toe is
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Speaker 1: a huge part of football. Who was getting frustrated that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just a toe, though. I think I think I
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Speaker 1: read somewhere once this is one of those Cliff Claven
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Speaker 1: Cheers facts that you can't be balanced at all without
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Speaker 1: your big toe, right, the big toe is trying you
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Speaker 1: could do without the little toe, you can't do without
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Speaker 1: the big toe. Um. And you're talking about turning and running,
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Speaker 1: you know, and so if your toes not there, you're
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Speaker 1: getting up on your toes and and and spinning and
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Speaker 1: trying to chase guys. Yeah, it's not easy to do. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I guess the big picture of big thing one
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Speaker 1: is that you know, week after week after week of
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Speaker 1: where is Leonard and where is this guy? And when
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Speaker 1: is this guy coming back? All of a sudden, you
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Speaker 1: come back from the bye week with eight games to go,
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Speaker 1: and maybe we're just setting it up. I mean maybe
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Speaker 1: it just seems like it's two story book picture picturesque.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're getting healthy second half of the season.
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Speaker 1: Division is still you know, there for you to make
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Speaker 1: a run. Gosh, doesn't it look good? But at least
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Speaker 1: you've got you've got you've got guys coming back. You're
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Speaker 1: not saying, okay, where guys going when now it appears
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Speaker 1: we'll see some guys on the field, and that at
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Speaker 1: least is something you can ask for. Yeah, we talked
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Speaker 1: about how important this bye week is to come at
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Speaker 1: this moment in time, and it seems to have worked
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Speaker 1: at least for Monday's practice. We'll find out what's next.
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Speaker 1: What's next is mixing it up so we know that
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Speaker 1: football is a routine, a daily routine arena exactly what
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Speaker 1: is happening. Doug Marowne has thrown that out the window
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Speaker 1: of the second half of the season. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of things that went into it, but all things for
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Speaker 1: a reason, you know, to help us get better. Change
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Speaker 1: some of the schedules and things that we do during practice,
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Speaker 1: things that we're not doing well that we need to
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Speaker 1: work on. Put that into the practice schedule, um and
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Speaker 1: just sticking with it. And that's that's what we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do and you know, for the rest of the season.
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Speaker 1: So it's not changed to change, it's changed for a
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Speaker 1: specific outcome of what we need done. This is big Ashley,
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Speaker 1: because coaches hate to change their routine. I think I've
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Speaker 1: told you this story. But in this very studio for
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Speaker 1: eight years, Tom Coflin came on Thursdays at eleven twenty
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Speaker 1: to take his pregame radio UH interview his practices open
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Speaker 1: media time in the locker room. You know, when the
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Speaker 1: buses left for the airport, they were always the same always.
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Speaker 1: Coaches are creatures of routine. And by the way, so
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Speaker 1: we're players, right, um. John tells a story about Tony
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Speaker 1: Dungee talking about how you make it simple and make
12:23
Speaker 1: it easy on guys by never changing things up. They
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Speaker 1: know where they're supposed to be at all times. Right,
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Speaker 1: you get him into that rhythm. This is totally changing
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Speaker 1: it up. And we saw guys in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Brandon Linder wouldn't even take the time to talk to you,
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Speaker 1: a fellow acquaintas alum, right, because what did he say?
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Speaker 1: He said, the schedule, you had to be on time,
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Speaker 1: first day of the new schedule. Get whatever, right, whatever whatever,
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Speaker 1: come on. But the reality of it is is that
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Speaker 1: they are jumbling. They're changing something you can't. You get
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Speaker 1: into a season, you can't change everything, right, You have
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Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. You can move a couple
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Speaker 1: of guys around. You might put someone in the starting
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Speaker 1: lineup entree to prior or or other beliefs. You can't
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Speaker 1: change the quarterback, right, I mean, you can't go bring
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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford him, which is some of the stuff I
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Speaker 1: was seeing on Twitter yesterday and on social media. You
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Speaker 1: can't change everything. There's certain things you're just stuck with
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Speaker 1: by the decisions that you make. However, this is something
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Speaker 1: you can change, and I'll be interested to see now.
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Speaker 1: They talked about changing the practice routine before we went
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Speaker 1: to London, and that was about focusing more on protecting
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Speaker 1: the ball and focusing on taking the ball away, and
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Speaker 1: they came away with a positive takeaway ratio for the
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Speaker 1: first time in weeks months. So we'll see if this
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Speaker 1: new routine works. UM. I don't want to call it
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Speaker 1: desperation because I didn't get the sense, maybe you did
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Speaker 1: talking to the players or or listening to Doug yesterday,
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Speaker 1: that there was desperation involved in this. Um. They had
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Speaker 1: to change something. Yeah, I took it more as Doug
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Speaker 1: just doing his job, trying to do his part in
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Speaker 1: changing something that he felt wasn't working. And he talked
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Speaker 1: about it and extensively with his coaching staff and came
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Speaker 1: up with a plan. So we'll see. We don't know
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Speaker 1: the plan by the way we do. Uh, normally we've
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Speaker 1: got an email early on Monday giving us the week
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Speaker 1: it win players are available, when coaches are available. That
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Speaker 1: has not come out yet, So they're tweaking that even still.
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Speaker 1: But they're looking at every minute of the day. And
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Speaker 1: I go back to last year and and training camp,
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Speaker 1: dougs first camp, and thinking where's the break for these
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Speaker 1: guys because they started early and they finished late, and
14:24
Speaker 1: it was constantly moving from one thing to the next.
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Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense, maybe, based on Brandon's
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Speaker 1: comments to you yesterday, that's what we're gonna see. It worked,
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Speaker 1: it worked last year. We'll see if it comes back. See,
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Speaker 1: we talked to a few players in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: so that it's just Dug doing his park in Calais.
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Speaker 1: Campbell was one of them that agree with the change.
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Speaker 1: I think changes always. You know, if you can a
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Speaker 1: little change, could it could be beneficial? You know? Uh,
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Speaker 1: I think he took the approach of what can I do,
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Speaker 1: you know, how can I help the team get back
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Speaker 1: in the win column, you know, And that's that's a
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Speaker 1: good leadership, you know. And we all kind of have
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Speaker 1: to take the mentality what can we each individually do
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Speaker 1: to help the same win. And if we all come
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Speaker 1: up with mentality, you know, we're probably gonna figure it out.
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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. Um, it stinks three and five.
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Speaker 1: The first half of the season stinks, right, so you know,
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Speaker 1: you take one of those um, those Clark's wipes, you know,
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Speaker 1: the bleachy smell to clean your counter and make it like, wow,
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Speaker 1: I really did a good job. This is good. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I look, this looks great, exactly right. It's clean. Um,
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Speaker 1: And changing the schedule does that. It brings everyone and says,
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Speaker 1: this is a new starts eight games left. Let's put
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Speaker 1: the last eight games behind us and focus on what's ahead.
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Speaker 1: And that's one way of doing that. Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a great way to clean. Like you said,
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Speaker 1: clean the table clean and clean the slate clean. It
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Speaker 1: seems like everyone was very refreshed yesterday in the locker
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Speaker 1: room and just completely looking forward. Whenever you asked a
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Speaker 1: question about the first half of the season. It was
15:42
Speaker 1: looks clean, smells clean, hopefully hope you don't know that
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Speaker 1: you get everything off the counter. It just looks good.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they did. Maybe they've wiped it all clean. We'll
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Speaker 1: find out on Sunday, Yes we will, all right. Big
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Speaker 1: thing three is flex So that Pittsburgh game that we
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Speaker 1: were all looking forward to, the Sunday night prime time
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Speaker 1: game here in Jacksonville is now a one o'clock game.
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Speaker 1: The Vikings and Bears are on the Sunday night game.
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron says his team didn't deserve a Sunday night game.
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Speaker 1: Who do you think that Steelers can also be flexes? Uh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it. I think it will be flexed. Should
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Speaker 1: it be flexed? I mean, are you guys deserving those plan? And?
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Speaker 1: All right, So here's the behind the scenes on that.
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Speaker 1: Doug knew at that moment that the game had been flexed.
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Speaker 1: It had not been released by the NFL, and so
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Speaker 1: he couldn't say anything. We knew it as well, and
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Speaker 1: so we were in the locker room before the players
16:37
Speaker 1: found out and they released it. The league released it
16:41
Speaker 1: as the players were walking through and leaving, right, So
16:44
Speaker 1: we didn't get the players reaction. But what you saw
16:47
Speaker 1: was this what right? The players were looking forward to
16:51
Speaker 1: that that prime time stage is big, especially for guys
16:55
Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey and Leonard for Nett, you know star players, right,
16:59
Speaker 1: they want this bot light. Okay, Well, um, it's a
17:03
Speaker 1: bum deal for the fans. It's a bum deal for
17:05
Speaker 1: the fans. And there are some fans who will be
17:08
Speaker 1: beyond inconvenience. They may or may not make it to
17:11
Speaker 1: the stadium. They may not be able to make that
17:14
Speaker 1: that early, they may have the travel plants, whatever. This
17:16
Speaker 1: will have an impact on some people. Uh. For the Jaguars,
17:19
Speaker 1: the impact is it's it's a mental impact. It is
17:23
Speaker 1: you're not good enough. We're not putting you on. And
17:26
Speaker 1: just in all candor, NBC turned down the Steelers, right
17:31
Speaker 1: would happen? Let's be clear, Uh, this is about market size. Now,
17:35
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is in a huge market, but they stretch across
17:38
Speaker 1: all markets. I mean, you've been in the league two
17:40
Speaker 1: years now, you see that the Steelers fan base is
17:42
Speaker 1: themwhere right, It's one of three or four that travels
17:46
Speaker 1: and fills your stadium, the Packers and the Steelers in particular.
17:49
Speaker 1: If you can't fill your stadium, they can fill it
17:52
Speaker 1: for you, all right. They will fill every seat that
17:54
Speaker 1: you don't sell. Um, I'm sure there's gonna be some
17:58
Speaker 1: Steelers fans were inconvenienced by this as well. So generally
18:02
Speaker 1: the NBC folks, Fox, CBS, they all want the Steelers
18:06
Speaker 1: on their air because it drives ratings. Um. It didn't
18:10
Speaker 1: feel good to have the game taken away. It feels
18:12
Speaker 1: even worse to know that the Steelers the opponent, are
18:14
Speaker 1: a team that knows everybody wants. It's not good. It's
18:18
Speaker 1: not good. But you can't I've seen a bunch of
18:20
Speaker 1: comments on Twitter like how could they do this? Why
18:22
Speaker 1: would they do this? How can you blame them? You
18:25
Speaker 1: haven't played well enough to deserve Like Dog just said,
18:29
Speaker 1: it stinks, but you can't be surprised. But I played
18:31
Speaker 1: incredibly poorly three straight weeks in a row Kansas City, Dallas,
18:35
Speaker 1: in Houston. Then they got back on the horse and
18:37
Speaker 1: had a chance in London against Philadelphia. So now they
18:40
Speaker 1: got to build on that. They've got to build That
18:43
Speaker 1: wasn't the only game, by the way, in terms of
18:45
Speaker 1: flex you know, the Miami game on December or December
18:48
Speaker 1: three was up in the air as well. The league
18:51
Speaker 1: and the networks were waiting to see if that might
18:53
Speaker 1: be a Saturday night primetime sort of game, and that
18:57
Speaker 1: quietly just the Jags will play at one o'clock on Sunday.
19:00
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's two games now that have been
19:03
Speaker 1: taken from prime time and put into standard one o'clock kickoff,
19:08
Speaker 1: which as a routine is great as a routine for us,
19:12
Speaker 1: for the players, for the coaches, one o'clock is a
19:14
Speaker 1: great routine. But in terms of prestige, in terms of
19:17
Speaker 1: the fan base, in terms of the excitement level, two games,
19:20
Speaker 1: it could have been primetime late in the season, playoff chase.
19:23
Speaker 1: You're not in it right now. Um, you heard Doug
19:26
Speaker 1: say no. Obviously not. He's not gonna stand there and
19:28
Speaker 1: argue for it. Calais same thing. Um, there might be
19:32
Speaker 1: some player angst about that. On Wednesday, we'll see. I
19:36
Speaker 1: think you're a lot of anks, but I don't think
19:38
Speaker 1: you have room to argue it. I don't know if
19:40
Speaker 1: anyone will. I don't know if anyone will. They'll argue
19:42
Speaker 1: it amongst themselves, but I don't know anyone would stand
19:44
Speaker 1: in front of the camera and say no, that's not right.
19:46
Speaker 1: They should have kept us there. Um trust me. You know,
19:49
Speaker 1: the league was hoping that they would get that forty
19:53
Speaker 1: two kind of game that we saw in the divisional
19:55
Speaker 1: playoff round. That's one of the reasons why they wanted
19:57
Speaker 1: it there. They wanted it to be a market game.
19:59
Speaker 1: It's just it's not right now. It doesn't seem to be.
20:02
Speaker 1: And by the way, Steelers aren't necessarily world beaters. It's
20:05
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20:08
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22:32
Speaker 1: here we go, Here we go. Ashlyn's analysis. I'm gonna
22:35
Speaker 1: sit back and just let you go. I wouldn't think
22:38
Speaker 1: that second half of the season, week nine, that we'd
22:41
Speaker 1: be analyzing the storyline of the week in the locker
22:44
Speaker 1: room yesterday was this team is getting back to the
22:47
Speaker 1: fundamentals of football. It's myself fundamental, you know what I
22:51
Speaker 1: mean at the level, you know, at this level, you
22:53
Speaker 1: know it's easy for you to forget, you know, different
22:55
Speaker 1: things as far as like watching the bought it to
22:57
Speaker 1: the tuck things, the things that they've been teaching since
22:59
Speaker 1: you were a little here. You know, I just gotta
23:01
Speaker 1: pretty much go back into that and and that's all.
23:03
Speaker 1: It is, just a plan fundamentally sounding. We haven't been
23:05
Speaker 1: doing that and so it was up to us, so
23:06
Speaker 1: of course, get back on the right track and fix it.
23:09
Speaker 1: So we heard Doug Marron talked about fundamentals yesterday, we
23:12
Speaker 1: heard d J. Hayden, Kiles Campbell, D D. Westbrook all
23:14
Speaker 1: talked about getting back to the fundamentals of football. It's
23:18
Speaker 1: not what you want to be talking about right now.
23:20
Speaker 1: And that was d. D. Westbrook talking about the drop
23:22
Speaker 1: pass as the receiver's had in the first half the
23:24
Speaker 1: season that it stinks. I don't want to be talking
23:26
Speaker 1: about this right now, but it's obviously a problem that
23:28
Speaker 1: we're dealing with and it hasn't been fixed. You know,
23:31
Speaker 1: there was a little hangdog mentality in that locker room yesterday.
23:34
Speaker 1: You know, guys were kind of hanging their heads. Um,
23:37
Speaker 1: they didn't want to talk a whole lot. Uh, they
23:39
Speaker 1: just wanted to keep moving. And they've been giving the schedule,
23:41
Speaker 1: they're probably giving their marching orders, and the fundamental side,
23:44
Speaker 1: they would probably slap them in the face. It's not exciting,
23:47
Speaker 1: No it's not. But you know, you get to a
23:50
Speaker 1: point where you spend so much time working on the
23:53
Speaker 1: game plan and and they only have so much time
23:56
Speaker 1: to work with these guys during the week. It's it's
23:59
Speaker 1: regulated by the like a bargaining agreement. Um. You you
24:02
Speaker 1: kind of hope the guys will go do it on
24:04
Speaker 1: their own right. The guys are thinking about the fundamentals,
24:06
Speaker 1: whether it's their footwork as a quarterback, or grab the
24:10
Speaker 1: jugs machine and catch some passes after practice. You know,
24:13
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice was infamous for his years of staying on
24:17
Speaker 1: the practice field late and and making the ball boys
24:20
Speaker 1: keep feeding the jugs machine. Would be the greatest receiver
24:23
Speaker 1: to ever play the game. Never stopped working on his craft. Um,
24:27
Speaker 1: it's on these guys. I mean, the coaches are now
24:29
Speaker 1: going to have to do some of it on the
24:30
Speaker 1: practice field, but really it's on these guys going forward
24:35
Speaker 1: to take their time and get the extra work in.
24:39
Speaker 1: You're only on the practice field. I don't know, what
24:40
Speaker 1: was it two hours a day, Uh, Wednesday Thursday, not
24:44
Speaker 1: even that on Friday. You gotta make time game plan
24:47
Speaker 1: driven that you forget about the fundamentals of it and
24:49
Speaker 1: you get going. And these guys spend time not just
24:51
Speaker 1: in the classroom, but you know, getting physical therapy, guys
24:54
Speaker 1: to do massage therapy, guys have acupuncture, dry needling. I mean,
24:58
Speaker 1: they're constantly working on what they eat, They're working on
25:01
Speaker 1: their bodies, they're working on the game plan. The fundamental
25:04
Speaker 1: side of it obviously is something they have to work
25:06
Speaker 1: on as well. Um, we saw the fundamental work of
25:10
Speaker 1: protecting the ball and of taking the ball away work
25:15
Speaker 1: in London after the emphasis on it. So I imagine
25:19
Speaker 1: it stings because these guys are professionals and they figured
25:22
Speaker 1: they have done this their whole life, and then they
25:25
Speaker 1: were working on since Pop Warner and it probably it's
25:28
Speaker 1: it's like being taken to task by your third grade teacher. Um,
25:32
Speaker 1: but I know just I coach my kids in the
25:34
Speaker 1: Junior Development League, and half of our practice is fundamentals.
25:38
Speaker 1: It's blocking and tackling Ashland. And we see on Saturday
25:42
Speaker 1: at that level, which I gets different than this, but
25:45
Speaker 1: not so different than what I'm about to say. Doesn't
25:47
Speaker 1: make sense, and that is is that when we have
25:49
Speaker 1: good practices blocking and tackling, we have good games. Right.
25:54
Speaker 1: We see that carry through Monday, Thursday, Saturday, good good, good, good,
26:00
Speaker 1: bad bad bad bad. Right, it is how it works.
26:05
Speaker 1: And so to some extent, since football is blocking and tackling,
26:09
Speaker 1: it's more sophisticated. I get that. But the very fundamentals
26:13
Speaker 1: of the game, if they practice them and perfect them Tuesday,
26:18
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday, you have a good game, yeah, exactly.
26:24
Speaker 1: So it seems easy. Yeah, we didn't think we'd be
26:26
Speaker 1: talking about this. And there's a lot that we've been
26:27
Speaker 1: talking about the last month that when they were three
26:30
Speaker 1: and one, we're thinking about, all right, here's how you
26:32
Speaker 1: get a two game lead in the division. You know,
26:34
Speaker 1: here's how you set yourself up for the second half.
26:36
Speaker 1: And in the last month it's been a you know,
26:39
Speaker 1: how you catch the ball, right, you know, you let
26:41
Speaker 1: the year out of the balloon, because at this point
26:43
Speaker 1: these guys have to figure that out, right, But it's
26:45
Speaker 1: where you are. And it was a month ago we
26:47
Speaker 1: never thought we'd be talking about the second half of
26:48
Speaker 1: the season, coming back from the bye, talking about fundamentals.
26:51
Speaker 1: So when you look in the eyes of DV west
26:54
Speaker 1: Broke or any of those players in that locker room
26:55
Speaker 1: and they're talking about having to go back to fundamental football,
26:58
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing for them. They don't want to talk about that.
27:01
Speaker 1: They're supposed to know that, they're supposed to do it
27:03
Speaker 1: on their own. That's what being a professional is all about,
27:06
Speaker 1: doing those things, the simple things of your craft, on
27:10
Speaker 1: your own right. And you know that message is coming
27:13
Speaker 1: from head coach dun Rowan because we've heard every single
27:15
Speaker 1: player say, and we've seen that rhythm when dune Roun
27:18
Speaker 1: stresses something, the entire locker room all of a sudden
27:20
Speaker 1: is stressing it. Well, here's the thing about fundamentals, And
27:22
Speaker 1: I'll just use blocking and tackling one more time and
27:24
Speaker 1: then we can move on. Um, this team has not
27:26
Speaker 1: blocked very well, they have not tackled very well. They're
27:29
Speaker 1: not running the ball very well. They're not stopping the
27:31
Speaker 1: run very well. So if that's all you work on
27:34
Speaker 1: this week, you should be able to go to Indianapolis
27:36
Speaker 1: and play well right and get back to your basics.
27:38
Speaker 1: By the way, that's who they are. They run the ball,
27:40
Speaker 1: they allegedly stopped the run. Right, at least that's what
27:43
Speaker 1: we saw last year. Allegedly they have not done a
27:45
Speaker 1: very good job of that recently. Yes, well that's mine else. Okay,
27:49
Speaker 1: that's wrapped up, So what's not take a deep breath Tuesday.
27:54
Speaker 1: It'll be real good this week. It should be easier, right,
27:58
Speaker 1: I mean they had the week off. It's a lot
28:00
Speaker 1: to do with the flex schedule, as you can imagine
28:02
Speaker 1: by the way, I agree to disagree at the end
28:03
Speaker 1: of the show, say all right, let's see the first
28:07
Speaker 1: one here. Oh please hold, I need my glasses. You
28:13
Speaker 1: wear glasses? All right? Wow, didn't take long to get
28:20
Speaker 1: that slap in the face. So Sunday Night Football and NBC,
28:23
Speaker 1: when are you ever going to flex the New York
28:25
Speaker 1: Giants out of prime time? And it's a conversation between
28:28
Speaker 1: fans about how New York Giants, despite their losing record,
28:31
Speaker 1: they still have primetime games they do and then they
28:34
Speaker 1: are New York. It's New York. And for folks who
28:38
Speaker 1: have been around just the last couple of years, uh,
28:41
Speaker 1: this is something we have talked about in Jacksonville since
28:45
Speaker 1: that is you were little Jacksonville. Right now, you go
28:48
Speaker 1: out and be big Jacksonville on the field, but in
28:51
Speaker 1: the community, right, it's still little Jacksonville and little little,
28:55
Speaker 1: but little in terms of number of households. With television, right,
29:00
Speaker 1: it's what it's about. Right, it's on television, and they
29:02
Speaker 1: want to have the greatest region, even when the Giants
29:05
Speaker 1: stink they have more households tuning in than Jacksonville has households.
29:10
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have twenty million people in
29:12
Speaker 1: their metropolitan area and one million people in this metropolitan area.
29:17
Speaker 1: So the Giants are always going to be there. They're
29:19
Speaker 1: not going to flex the giants out. And by the way,
29:22
Speaker 1: they have a flamboyant superstar in Odell Beckham Jr. Who's
29:26
Speaker 1: one handed catches. Have him as an an acronym, right
29:29
Speaker 1: O b J. Right, he's fun to watch. Kid say,
29:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to go out, right, So they're going to
29:35
Speaker 1: be there. Do the Jaguars have an offensive star that
29:38
Speaker 1: inspires that sort of viewership? For not when he's healthy?
29:42
Speaker 1: That really not like a receiver and not like that.
29:45
Speaker 1: But that's the close second, right, which tells you they
29:47
Speaker 1: don't have enough offensive firepower right, right, And it's offense
29:50
Speaker 1: that drives television ratings. It just keep going back to
29:54
Speaker 1: that ram scene thing. It just does, it just does.
29:56
Speaker 1: So they've got um new slash. They've got to fix that. Yes,
29:59
Speaker 1: that's take a deep breath because it is what it is.
30:02
Speaker 1: It's not going to change, all right. Let's see the
30:04
Speaker 1: next one. This is a Brent Martineau tweet talking about
30:09
Speaker 1: the flex schedule, talking about the small markets Jacksonville, Buffalo, Cleveland,
30:14
Speaker 1: oak Oakland, Las Vegas, Tampa, Bay, Tennessee, and Cincinnati. They
30:18
Speaker 1: deserve at least one prime time game every two years,
30:21
Speaker 1: regardless of their record. One day, Brady is gonna retire, guys.
30:25
Speaker 1: Geez um. There was a rule at one time that
30:30
Speaker 1: every when they added the Thursday games, that every single
30:33
Speaker 1: team had to be on a prime time game. That
30:37
Speaker 1: rule didn't last very long. And the answer all throughout you.
30:40
Speaker 1: This is two years ago. The Jaguars went to Tennessee
30:43
Speaker 1: on a Thursday night and got their doors blown off.
30:47
Speaker 1: They were non competitive from the very start. It was
30:49
Speaker 1: twenty eight to nothing before you even knew it. The
30:51
Speaker 1: game finished thirty six to seventeen something like that, but
30:54
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a non competitive game.
30:56
Speaker 1: And seen the Jaguars did not have a primetime game
31:00
Speaker 1: based on the fact that what they saw. So the
31:03
Speaker 1: market size, it's always going to lean downward right in
31:07
Speaker 1: favor of those big teams, and they don't have to
31:10
Speaker 1: be as good. But if you're a small market team,
31:12
Speaker 1: if you're Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cincinnati, New Orleans, in order to
31:16
Speaker 1: gain the eyeballs in places like Philly, Chicago, l A,
31:21
Speaker 1: New York, Dallas, you gotta be good, good, better make
31:25
Speaker 1: people watch. Is it fair? No? But did your dad
31:27
Speaker 1: ever tell your life was fair? It's not. Did anybody
31:29
Speaker 1: ever tell you life was fair? If they did, you
31:31
Speaker 1: better get that out of your out of your lexicon
31:33
Speaker 1: right now. Life isn't fair. And in the NFL it isn't.
31:38
Speaker 1: They try to level the playing field with the draft, right,
31:41
Speaker 1: and the salary cap in those things. But when it
31:43
Speaker 1: comes to the money, and it's about the money, it's
31:46
Speaker 1: professional football. It's about the TV. And when the TV
31:49
Speaker 1: says we don't want Jacksonville, Tennessee, Buffalo right unless they're good,
31:55
Speaker 1: then we'll take them. There's nothing that Lenk is gonna
31:57
Speaker 1: say except Okay, you're writing the check. Done. It is
32:00
Speaker 1: what it is. You win you're on. If the Jaguars
32:03
Speaker 1: are four and four, I bet they're still playing the
32:08
Speaker 1: Steelers on prime time. But they've lost four in a
32:10
Speaker 1: row and they couldn't even write the ship at any point.
32:12
Speaker 1: Forget the Kansas City game. The Dallas game had everybody going, WHOA,
32:16
Speaker 1: what is this? Right? Um, if they were four and four,
32:19
Speaker 1: I think they probably still be playing. I think if
32:21
Speaker 1: you beat the Eagles in London, you would still have
32:23
Speaker 1: a primetime game. Yeah, probably so. But it is what
32:26
Speaker 1: it is. And we remember last year when the Jaguars
32:29
Speaker 1: were successful and the Buffalo Bills. We I remember this
32:32
Speaker 1: team preaching the small town vibes in the small market
32:35
Speaker 1: and being so proud of that because you were on
32:37
Speaker 1: a primetime game because it was the playoffs, it was
32:40
Speaker 1: the wild Cards. So when you're playing well, you use
32:42
Speaker 1: it to your advantage. By the way, the Jaguars do
32:44
Speaker 1: have one primetime game, and that is a Thursday night
32:47
Speaker 1: in December in Tennessee. Right, it should be a great game.
32:50
Speaker 1: Saying as how these two teams are going hope so
32:54
Speaker 1: fingers crossed. Based on the last trip up there, a
32:56
Speaker 1: good game would suffice, all right. The last take deep
33:00
Speaker 1: breath Tuesday. Let's see it. So this is talking about
33:05
Speaker 1: the Teddy Bridgewater trade. Fans arguing back and forth. But
33:08
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, this guy says, I'd rather have the picks.
33:10
Speaker 1: You're getting an average quarterback at best with Teddy Bridgewater.
33:14
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd flourished behind this line and with
33:16
Speaker 1: those wide receivers. So I think this would have fit
33:19
Speaker 1: perfectly in agree to disagree, Right, we should have talked
33:22
Speaker 1: about this one because I agree, I agree to. I
33:25
Speaker 1: don't think this will take a deep breath. I think
33:26
Speaker 1: that's a solid argument. That is a solid argument. Um,
33:30
Speaker 1: I guess Teddy Bridgewater had a I didn't get to
33:31
Speaker 1: see a lot of him. Uh, he had a decent August.
33:35
Speaker 1: But you're still talking about a guy who was an average,
33:37
Speaker 1: above average, slightly above average quarterback in Minnesota with a
33:41
Speaker 1: serious knee injury that cost him a lot of playing time.
33:44
Speaker 1: And John Payton offensive genius. Get it. May see, something
33:48
Speaker 1: may make sense? Right, bring him in. Um, that isn't
33:52
Speaker 1: the guy I want as my long term quarterback. No,
33:54
Speaker 1: that's not the guy I'm picking. And we talked about
33:56
Speaker 1: building for the future so much and the salary clap
33:58
Speaker 1: and everything and these next two years being so important,
34:01
Speaker 1: you want the picks right now. And he's right. I mean,
34:03
Speaker 1: so Mark Easley is is not playing this year obviously,
34:07
Speaker 1: and with the knee injury, you don't know when he
34:08
Speaker 1: plays again. Mon Creef has as we talked about yesterday,
34:12
Speaker 1: he has not dazzled people with his playmaking skill. Um
34:16
Speaker 1: D D. Westbrook has, but he's not the one, right.
34:20
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in an ideal world, he's a
34:22
Speaker 1: two slash three if you have another guy, absolutely, Uh,
34:26
Speaker 1: there's no tight end out there right now. All you've
34:27
Speaker 1: got the running game, so it does I don't think
34:30
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound right. I'm not sure which quarterback
34:34
Speaker 1: could go out there, Okay, Tom Brady, Right, Tom Brady,
34:39
Speaker 1: give him a call. Not a lot of guys can.
34:41
Speaker 1: So that's a good point. Uh. And you want the
34:43
Speaker 1: picks because you need the picks. With the salary cap
34:45
Speaker 1: situation the way it is, you need players that can
34:48
Speaker 1: come in and contribute and play at a fixed rate.
34:51
Speaker 1: More about that in the offseason, but good solid take.
34:55
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34:57
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37:04
Speaker 1: Um agree to disagree, Sorry out they were off last
37:08
Speaker 1: week obviously, and so from that perspective, there wasn't a
37:11
Speaker 1: lot to agree or disagree with. So this is the
37:14
Speaker 1: flex let's say schedule but the flexed game edition of
37:18
Speaker 1: agree to disagree. So let's hit it some real AXT
37:21
Speaker 1: and it's deserving. Uh you see right there, Gunter Brew
37:25
Speaker 1: Gunter's Brew eighty two. We were saved from another national
37:28
Speaker 1: stage embarrassment, Steelers by thirty. You could just this was
37:31
Speaker 1: probably really quickly after he learned, after he learned, and
37:36
Speaker 1: he's on there. He's angry, right, He's mad at the Jaguars,
37:40
Speaker 1: clearly because his team has fallen into a position where
37:42
Speaker 1: they've been flexed um. And he's mad because he's watched
37:45
Speaker 1: his team blow it and and and you know they
37:48
Speaker 1: can't see the game. There's such hype about that one.
37:50
Speaker 1: I mean, this was like there's a game of the
37:51
Speaker 1: season and right, didn't turn out very well. Then there's
37:55
Speaker 1: Dallas and get back in then Houston. Right, it was bad, bad,
38:02
Speaker 1: So this guy is just in the mood. Yeah, I
38:04
Speaker 1: don't blame them. Yeah, I don't think the Jaggars get
38:06
Speaker 1: blown by by thirty by these dealers. I think, and
38:09
Speaker 1: maybe I'm overly optimistic. I think that the return of
38:11
Speaker 1: four net gives this team the ability to play ball control.
38:14
Speaker 1: I think we'll see Blake play more efficiently. I'm not
38:17
Speaker 1: sure what that means, but if it means the way
38:19
Speaker 1: that he played late last season, great, uh more efficiently.
38:23
Speaker 1: The defense will be better with a running game that
38:24
Speaker 1: can help them. I get it that Steelers team is
38:28
Speaker 1: playing better than this one is right now. Might not
38:30
Speaker 1: be a win, um, but not not blown up by thirty. No,
38:33
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a closer game. Not by now.
38:35
Speaker 1: They're piste off about it. Yeah right now? Yeah now
38:40
Speaker 1: that gives them even more No, not by thirty. Disagree
38:42
Speaker 1: with you, Gunner. I think that it will add up.
38:45
Speaker 1: And I don't blame them because I remember in the
38:47
Speaker 1: Cowboys game when they went up to Dallas and they lost.
38:49
Speaker 1: I remember so many of us saying, and so many
38:51
Speaker 1: people on Twitter saying that was embarrassing that the entire
38:54
Speaker 1: country watched the Jaguars lose an embarrassing fashion. So I
38:58
Speaker 1: don't I agree with the embarrassing. I agree that it's
39:01
Speaker 1: embarrassing on a national scale to lose like that, But
39:04
Speaker 1: I don't think it's okay next. This team stinks. I
39:13
Speaker 1: honestly think they could care less. Hashtag no heart okay,
39:18
Speaker 1: uh big big a big three seven? Um, they hard
39:25
Speaker 1: to argue they stink right now, right, I mean he
39:27
Speaker 1: lost four in a row, blown out in Kansas City,
39:29
Speaker 1: blown out in Dallas. Um, turn the ball over against
39:33
Speaker 1: Houston and didn't give yourself a real chance and then
39:36
Speaker 1: narrowly missed an opportunity. Um. The disagreement comes from the
39:40
Speaker 1: thinking that they could care less. Right. Um? First of all, grammatically,
39:45
Speaker 1: they couldn't care less? Is what you really wanted to say.
39:47
Speaker 1: So we disagree that. Yeah, right, Um. But the reality
39:51
Speaker 1: of it is you will find out, right. I mean
39:53
Speaker 1: the next eight games when there's an opportunity on the
39:55
Speaker 1: on the table for them to go do something. The
39:58
Speaker 1: next eight games will tell you how much they care. Right.
40:00
Speaker 1: So the hashtag no heart if if that's true, you'll
40:03
Speaker 1: see it in the next eight games. I think the
40:05
Speaker 1: first sign of adversity the first sign that they can quit.
40:09
Speaker 1: If they do quit, then you have an argument. But
40:11
Speaker 1: the Eagles, when when they're playing the Eagles in London,
40:13
Speaker 1: that bench, that bench cared, right, you haven't seen it yet,
40:16
Speaker 1: look at look at the next eight games. Stay tuned, Okay, next,
40:19
Speaker 1: agree to disagree. I applaud NBC's decision. I would rather
40:23
Speaker 1: get home at five pm after a loss instead of
40:26
Speaker 1: after midnight. I just thought it was funny, right, I
40:30
Speaker 1: mean again, the frustration is seething through the keyboard and
40:34
Speaker 1: into the social media stratosphere. UM like it nice? Really good? Next?
40:44
Speaker 1: Nothing to disagree about? When your own head coach says
40:47
Speaker 1: this team doesn't deserve to play on national television, He's
40:50
Speaker 1: not wrong. I just at Fresh Prince. What has made
40:55
Speaker 1: coach Maroon think that this team should play on national television? Well?
40:58
Speaker 1: What was so great was he has asked the question
41:00
Speaker 1: and he didn't even There wasn't even a second of pause.
41:03
Speaker 1: It was nope, does your team deserve to play? No,
41:06
Speaker 1: does not deserve to play? Agree? Nothing to disagree about.
41:09
Speaker 1: We agree with that. Um, here's one when you and
41:13
Speaker 1: wife travel all the way from England the day after
41:16
Speaker 1: your wedding to catch his Sunday night football game in
41:18
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and the Jacks get flexed out and you will
41:20
Speaker 1: completely miss the game. Oh boy, we feel for you.
41:24
Speaker 1: We met him in London. He's a great Jaguars fan.
41:26
Speaker 1: He's a great Jaguars fan. This stinks for him, it does.
41:30
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's going to miss it. Maybe
41:32
Speaker 1: his plane didn't land until that morning. I don't know
41:34
Speaker 1: whether he can change. Apparently not. And you know how
41:38
Speaker 1: it's not like the airlines are all that friendly when
41:40
Speaker 1: it comes to fees. I know I made a mistake
41:43
Speaker 1: a month ago on that. Um we agree, stinks. We
41:48
Speaker 1: feel free, you man, you know we were again we
41:50
Speaker 1: were being flippant yesterday. Hey, you know a one o'clock
41:52
Speaker 1: game is a lot easier on all of us broadcast,
41:55
Speaker 1: absolutely because you're not here until four in the morning,
41:57
Speaker 1: then turning it right around and coming and doing a show.
42:00
Speaker 1: The reality of it is for guys like this who
42:02
Speaker 1: had put plans and made plans for the fan base,
42:05
Speaker 1: it's not fun. It is not fun. We agree on that.
42:07
Speaker 1: As we said, it's about the money, it's about TV.
42:09
Speaker 1: So uh, there's one more special agree to disagree for you, Ashlyns.
42:17
Speaker 1: Happy they make up their minds. You know who a
42:20
Speaker 1: Blincoln that I don't think he really has a Twitter handle.
42:24
Speaker 1: I just kind of came up with it on my own,
42:25
Speaker 1: but I saw that this morning and I thought it
42:28
Speaker 1: was worth adding. Most people are usually as happy as
42:31
Speaker 1: they make up their minds to be. So as we
42:33
Speaker 1: leave a really disgruntled agree to disagree, understand folks, there's
42:36
Speaker 1: eight games to play. Leonard Fernette is coming back. D J.
42:39
Speaker 1: Hayden is coming back. You're getting some guys back there.
42:43
Speaker 1: They are working this week, shuffling things up, trying to
42:45
Speaker 1: find a way to get their toe back in the
42:48
Speaker 1: water on this thing. There's plenty of motivation if they
42:50
Speaker 1: didn't have it before. The Titans win last night is
42:53
Speaker 1: a notch that you now have to try to climb into.
42:55
Speaker 1: You've got the situation with the Flex game. Hey, choose
42:58
Speaker 1: to be happy and see if this week doesn't turn
43:00
Speaker 1: around the next one side, it's all over. Let the
43:03
Speaker 1: angst out again. But I think ay B Lincoln's right
43:06
Speaker 1: on that one. Great. You can choose to be happy,
43:08
Speaker 1: and we definitely have seen this team working to make
43:10
Speaker 1: this fan base happy. Well, it's easy to be unhappy.
43:12
Speaker 1: It is really easy to be unhappy. But if you
43:15
Speaker 1: walk around and all you are is unhappy, you're just
43:18
Speaker 1: unhappy and good. All right, that has agreed to disagree.
43:21
Speaker 1: How about a couple of quick headlines and we'll take
43:23
Speaker 1: a break, bringing Jeff Loghman and get some thoughts on
43:25
Speaker 1: what he's seen from the tape and looking forward to
43:27
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck on Sunday Um first headline out of the gate.
43:31
Speaker 1: No real surprise here. Jerry Jones has never changed head coaches.
43:35
Speaker 1: I should take that back once when he fired Wade
43:38
Speaker 1: Phillips in two thousand and ten after one and seven
43:40
Speaker 1: starts and hired Jason Garrett. Garrett is seventy and fifty eight,
43:45
Speaker 1: two trips to the playoffs and one playoff win. You
43:48
Speaker 1: saw that stadium. You understand the whole mystique of the
43:51
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys thing. They're not winning. It's driving Jerry Jones crazy.
43:55
Speaker 1: They sent the first round pick to Mari Cooper, last
43:58
Speaker 1: to the Raiders for Marie Cooper. They fired Paul Alexander,
44:01
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach. But Jones said last night after
44:04
Speaker 1: a disheartening second half loss, the other thing that's really
44:08
Speaker 1: killing him right now and them is that they blew
44:10
Speaker 1: the Jaguars out of the water and since then have
44:13
Speaker 1: lost two in a row. Right So here they are,
44:16
Speaker 1: right here, they are thinking, all right, got something going,
44:19
Speaker 1: you know, find Dank Prescott a weapon, not so much.
44:22
Speaker 1: Not going to change coaches no matter what the situation
44:25
Speaker 1: is in Dallas. Up next, there's a former Cowboy. Uh.
44:31
Speaker 1: He was released in April, right former All Pro wide
44:34
Speaker 1: receiver is reportedly working out today for the New Orleans Saints.
44:38
Speaker 1: Now there's some connections. Sean Payton worked for Jerry Jones,
44:42
Speaker 1: was there in Dallas. Um mostly though, and this is
44:45
Speaker 1: about the Saints. They have Michael Thomas, who was seventy catches.
44:48
Speaker 1: It's been sensational. Their next receiver has twelve, right, they
44:53
Speaker 1: have nothing else. They Alvin Kamara is a is a
44:56
Speaker 1: guy that they can throw to the tight ends, a
44:58
Speaker 1: guy they can throw too. But they need more helping
45:00
Speaker 1: wide receiver, so they're bringing in des Bryant for a
45:03
Speaker 1: workout today. His number reportedly in the spring was excessive,
45:08
Speaker 1: not sixteen point five, which is what he was going
45:10
Speaker 1: to make in Dallas this year, but he wanted to
45:12
Speaker 1: be paid, you know, ten eleven, twelve million bucks. So
45:15
Speaker 1: at this point it would be interesting to see the
45:17
Speaker 1: chance to come play with Drew Brees with a contender,
45:21
Speaker 1: you know, will he come in and play for a
45:23
Speaker 1: million bucks? Two million bucks? And I saw Jane Slater
45:25
Speaker 1: from NFL Network tweet out that regardless of the decision
45:28
Speaker 1: today to bring in does Bryan or not, that Michael
45:30
Speaker 1: Thomas is obviously still your number one guy. Because he's
45:32
Speaker 1: been playing lights out. Yeah, there's just there's no comparison
45:35
Speaker 1: for that guy. He is right now the best wide
45:37
Speaker 1: receiver in football. But I just think it's start with
45:40
Speaker 1: it with he's got seventy catches, the next receiver receiver
45:43
Speaker 1: has twelve. Right, what a drop off, huge drop off.
45:46
Speaker 1: So that's why they're looking there. Uh. And finally, you
45:48
Speaker 1: may have seen the tweet yesterday that kind of sparked
45:50
Speaker 1: a little bit of fire across Twitter, and that was
45:52
Speaker 1: Farewell Miami, which was Levan Bell's tweet. He's been working
45:55
Speaker 1: out down in Miami while he's been holding out from Pittsburgh.
45:58
Speaker 1: And the question is, why is he gonna come and
46:01
Speaker 1: play for five million bucks right when he wouldn't play
46:03
Speaker 1: for fourteen and a half million bucks? Right Why? Now, Well,
46:07
Speaker 1: he's got a report by next Tuesday, otherwise he can't
46:09
Speaker 1: play for the rest of the season. He's got to
46:11
Speaker 1: be in by the thirteen otherwise, by the terms of
46:14
Speaker 1: the Collective bart In Agreement, he has to sit. So
46:17
Speaker 1: clearly he doesn't need the money, but he does get
46:20
Speaker 1: the accruede year and then you know, whatever happens after that.
46:24
Speaker 1: The Steelers have said they're committed to using the transition
46:27
Speaker 1: tag on him next year, which would pay him somewhere
46:29
Speaker 1: between nine and ten based on how all the average
46:31
Speaker 1: salaries work out, and then he could go and solicit
46:35
Speaker 1: an offer from another team, which the Steelers could either
46:37
Speaker 1: match or let him walk and get compensatory picks um.
46:41
Speaker 1: But he still hasn't shown up. He's obviously not playing
46:44
Speaker 1: this week because they play on Thursday night against Carolina.
46:46
Speaker 1: So Levian bell story has been incredibly interesting. Not since
46:49
Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins back in the early days, early early days
46:53
Speaker 1: of free agency have we seen a guy sit on
46:58
Speaker 1: this much money for this long trying to make his
47:01
Speaker 1: point that he wants to go and get the big
47:03
Speaker 1: deal and be healthy. After season after season of more
47:05
Speaker 1: than three touches. He played Chicken, and I love that
47:09
Speaker 1: he's tweeting it out the question did he win or
47:12
Speaker 1: did he lose? Right? It depends on him. Right, If
47:15
Speaker 1: he thinks he won, he won. He's got money in
47:17
Speaker 1: the bank, and he's got half a season, or more
47:21
Speaker 1: more than half a season of feeling good. So we'll
47:23
Speaker 1: see where it is. That story just won't go away,
47:25
Speaker 1: all right. Jeff Loghaman is in the studio he'll come
47:27
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47:28
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Speaker 1: Time Tuesday morning, Brian Ashland and Jeff Lockman Um just
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Speaker 1: quick your thoughts on the game being flexed and how
49:27
Speaker 1: that impacts the guys in the locker room, if they care,
49:29
Speaker 1: if they you know, if they don't care. I don't
49:31
Speaker 1: think they care. I mean they're more worried about trying
49:33
Speaker 1: to find a wind than they are. What time they're
49:36
Speaker 1: gonna be playing football, And when you're on a four
49:40
Speaker 1: game losing strict there's not a whole lot else that
49:42
Speaker 1: really matters. Man, reality as you suck and you don't
49:45
Speaker 1: deserve primetime game. And you know, and I know a
49:48
Speaker 1: lot of people probably don't like to hear that, but
49:51
Speaker 1: that's the reality. I thought maybe that the Pittsburgh Steelers,
49:54
Speaker 1: just the attraction of them alone might hold the game. Well, yeah,
49:57
Speaker 1: the Steelers, because you know they're not they're not America's
50:01
Speaker 1: team quote unquote, but I mean it pretty close. How
50:03
Speaker 1: many times did you do games in NFL Europe where
50:05
Speaker 1: randomly you saw Steelers Jersey. I'm just telling you, I
50:09
Speaker 1: did games in NFL europ for a couple of years,
50:10
Speaker 1: and I saw Steelers Jersey everywhere. I don't want every
50:13
Speaker 1: there the world's team. They're close, Yeah, they're they're pretty close.
50:16
Speaker 1: And the world did Pittsburgh grow that many people? Because
50:21
Speaker 1: everybody claims that they're from Pittsburgh. I'm a long time
50:24
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fan. I'm just like, well, but you remember, you
50:29
Speaker 1: don't remember this because this is pre cable television, but
50:31
Speaker 1: you and I do. We grew up in an area
50:32
Speaker 1: where you only saw two or three games on a
50:34
Speaker 1: weekend if you were lucky, if you were lucky, and
50:36
Speaker 1: and one of those games always seem to be the
50:37
Speaker 1: Steelers because they were the best teams. They were the
50:39
Speaker 1: best I mean growing up. I mean we're about saying ay, yeah,
50:41
Speaker 1: So in the seventies, the Steelers were dominant, and you're
50:45
Speaker 1: from Virginia and you're here, and I'm from Missouri and
50:47
Speaker 1: I'm here, and then people just spread out and they
50:49
Speaker 1: become Steelers fans. And by the way, you're right about it. Um.
50:52
Speaker 1: I was working out the other day and the girl
50:54
Speaker 1: teaching the class I was a Steelers fan, And I said,
50:56
Speaker 1: why's she's on from Pittsburgh, I says, everybody from Pittsburgh.
50:59
Speaker 1: I mean, there's for God's sakes, but they do. And
51:02
Speaker 1: and of course that rust belt area, you know, that
51:04
Speaker 1: baby boomer generation that was there when the Steelers were winning.
51:07
Speaker 1: You know, they've moved all over the country now and
51:09
Speaker 1: retired in the South. And yeah, and when and when
51:13
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was good, I mean a lot of people kind
51:15
Speaker 1: of forget this that in that era of Pittsburgh, you're
51:19
Speaker 1: talking about a depression almost in the in that city
51:23
Speaker 1: and so that that's really what endeared that team to
51:26
Speaker 1: the fans because that was really the only positive thing
51:28
Speaker 1: and a lot of people's lives in the seventies because
51:31
Speaker 1: the closing of the steel mills and everything else. So
51:33
Speaker 1: I think they have a little bit more significance for
51:36
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Steelers fan that really grew that really grew
51:39
Speaker 1: up in Pittsburgh then maybe a lot of other teams
51:41
Speaker 1: where that they grew up. The wagon is big for
51:44
Speaker 1: that team, but the flex I mean, yeah, you don't
51:46
Speaker 1: deserve to play in primetime when you lose four consecutive games.
51:49
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Chicago Bears who got moved
51:52
Speaker 1: into that slot because now they have the primetime game
51:55
Speaker 1: against the Vikings and then they have to turn around
51:57
Speaker 1: and play on Thanksgiving Day in the early game. And
52:00
Speaker 1: so you're talking about a team that gets penalized for
52:02
Speaker 1: being in a big market and being pretty good and
52:07
Speaker 1: it's all about TV. Well, it's it's about TV, and
52:10
Speaker 1: it's about money and it's about ratings, and I get it.
52:12
Speaker 1: That's that's the way it is. And a Jaguars team
52:15
Speaker 1: that has lost four out of their last five or
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Speaker 1: five the last five or whatever it may you end
52:21
Speaker 1: up being. At that point, that's not an attraction. Kind
52:25
Speaker 1: to move on. So how do they not stink on
52:27
Speaker 1: Sunday in Indianapolis? Good question, I'm changing your verbiage a
52:31
Speaker 1: little bit, But how do how do they? How do
52:33
Speaker 1: they not? Can Leonard for Nett and Carlos Hide? Can
52:37
Speaker 1: they be a tandem that gets this offense going? I hope?
52:41
Speaker 1: But you know there's questions of well, I mean hope,
52:45
Speaker 1: I mean because you know here, here's the deal. Have
52:49
Speaker 1: they run the football effectively and and played well as
52:53
Speaker 1: an offensive line no matter who the running back has been. No,
52:57
Speaker 1: you know, there's only one running back on the roster
52:59
Speaker 1: right now that has over a four point oh yards
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Speaker 1: per carry average, and that's t J. Yelling at four
53:04
Speaker 1: point one. And every other running back okay, you know
53:05
Speaker 1: I can't count D. D. Westbrook and Blake Bortles is
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Speaker 1: running backs. Everybody every other running back on the roster
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Speaker 1: is sub four point oh. And and look, four point
53:14
Speaker 1: oh is like the Mendoza line. If you're below that,
53:16
Speaker 1: you're not very good. If you're above that, you can
53:18
Speaker 1: be pretty good. And the Jaguars right now don't have
53:21
Speaker 1: anybody but T T J above that. So, and what
53:25
Speaker 1: is Leonard Fournet gonna be when he gets back? Is
53:26
Speaker 1: he gonna be the Leonard four net that is hesitant
53:29
Speaker 1: and very cautious about maybe pulling a hamstring again? Or
53:34
Speaker 1: is he going to be the Leonard four net that
53:36
Speaker 1: looks fearless and fast and healthy and ready to go,
53:40
Speaker 1: ready to prove something, ready to spark this team? I
53:43
Speaker 1: don't know. And will Carlos hide and him be this
53:47
Speaker 1: one to punch that you may you know, on paper,
53:50
Speaker 1: it looks like that could happen. Well, it seems like
53:52
Speaker 1: you need it to happen, just because you don't want
53:54
Speaker 1: to overstress the hamstring early on when he gets back,
53:57
Speaker 1: you don't want to overdo it. You need you need
53:59
Speaker 1: some kind of spark. And you hope that that's it
54:01
Speaker 1: on offense because right now they don't have any other
54:05
Speaker 1: way to kind of solve the problems that they have.
54:07
Speaker 1: And and the problem is is that they really haven't
54:09
Speaker 1: scored many meaningful points in the first half in a
54:12
Speaker 1: long time. So, uh, I'm hopeful I'll leave it that
54:16
Speaker 1: as the offense. But the reality is that the defense
54:19
Speaker 1: has parts in place that are pretty dark on good
54:21
Speaker 1: now they just need to play better. So how does
54:22
Speaker 1: the running game help them? Keeps them off the field,
54:25
Speaker 1: gets them excited? But hey, look, you know our offense
54:27
Speaker 1: is actually doing something. It gives them positive reinforcement for
54:30
Speaker 1: their efforts on the defensive side of the ball. A
54:32
Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, you know they're professions. Well yeah,
54:35
Speaker 1: but they're humans. They're human. You know, you gotta have
54:37
Speaker 1: a little encouragement for Okay, what you're doing is going
54:41
Speaker 1: to result in something positive for everybody. And if you
54:45
Speaker 1: play your rear end off to use a clean term there,
54:49
Speaker 1: then it's not gonna be all for not. And so
54:53
Speaker 1: I think a good offensive running game that is effective
54:56
Speaker 1: early in the ball game encourages everybody, coaching staff included,
55:00
Speaker 1: because if you're if you're a coach and you're trying
55:03
Speaker 1: to call plays and you can't run the ball worth pooh,
55:07
Speaker 1: and you can't throw the ball worth pooh, we appreciate.
55:10
Speaker 1: Are you confident? Doug Lessons in watching his language in
55:14
Speaker 1: front of the did you hear him? Yes, he doesn't
55:17
Speaker 1: do a very good jobs, not doing very good. Yes,
55:19
Speaker 1: I love him. He doesn't Yeah, I know he wasn't
55:21
Speaker 1: very good. Um, another guy coming back d J Hayden,
55:24
Speaker 1: what do you see as that impact and Tyler Patman
55:27
Speaker 1: as well, because you went into the game in London
55:29
Speaker 1: with Trey Herndon and Quentin Meeks and I thought they
55:32
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job them for rookies. I mean, look,
55:35
Speaker 1: they did Okay, they weren't the reason why that this
55:37
Speaker 1: team lost or anything. But DJ's physical nickelback. He gives
55:43
Speaker 1: them the ability to blitz I think, which Tyler Patman
55:47
Speaker 1: is not a very effective blitzer, so he can be
55:50
Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive. He's a little more physical
55:53
Speaker 1: in versus the running game. It also gives you the
55:56
Speaker 1: ability to not have Ronnie Harrison playing that nickel package
56:00
Speaker 1: as much. Maybe you can do some things with him elsewhere. Uh,
56:05
Speaker 1: that gives you more flexibility as a defense. So I think,
56:08
Speaker 1: you know, look, another good player back, a couple of
56:11
Speaker 1: good players back that you know the question now, I
56:14
Speaker 1: think when you look at the defense, what's gonna happen
56:17
Speaker 1: with Dante Fowler being gone? Now? How do you replace
56:21
Speaker 1: his twelve to eight teen reps a game? You know
56:24
Speaker 1: Laurenti mccraig. Look, he can do it. He's done it,
56:28
Speaker 1: and he's shown that he can do it at a
56:29
Speaker 1: very good level. The question is is now you have
56:33
Speaker 1: to have him playing maybe defense, and what does that
56:36
Speaker 1: do to the quality of his special team's record. He
56:39
Speaker 1: is a key special teams special teams captain and so
56:42
Speaker 1: what does that do there? I don't know. So maybe
56:45
Speaker 1: they strike a balance and that mccraig takes some of
56:48
Speaker 1: those reps that Dante normally would have had. And and
56:52
Speaker 1: also maybe you have somebody active for the first time
56:55
Speaker 1: this year. Who's the third round pick? And third round
56:57
Speaker 1: picks you usually expect to be starters? Uh out there,
57:02
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm and I'm not throwing a name
57:04
Speaker 1: out there because look, I don't know. We're just talking
57:06
Speaker 1: about a third round pick defensive end. Okay, that because
57:10
Speaker 1: you don't need a name on it. A third round
57:11
Speaker 1: pick defensive end in his second year you expect him
57:14
Speaker 1: to a third round pick to will be an eventual starter. Well,
57:18
Speaker 1: I think last year they were high on this third
57:20
Speaker 1: round pick and he hasn't been active yet this year,
57:22
Speaker 1: so it smooth. I'm not gonna say it because it
57:27
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the name is. What matters is he's
57:30
Speaker 1: a third round pick defensive end that hasn't been active
57:33
Speaker 1: yet this year. I get it. Okay, you've got a
57:36
Speaker 1: good defensive line, but you know what, third round picks
57:38
Speaker 1: are supposed to be of starters by year three at
57:41
Speaker 1: the latest. An observation on him, since I mean you're
57:45
Speaker 1: not saying his name, but I am so, the guy
57:47
Speaker 1: who shall not be named looks like he's gotten heavy.
57:50
Speaker 1: He looks like he's a big end. Have you noticed
57:52
Speaker 1: that I do know this, and that his diet has changed.
57:58
Speaker 1: Are they trying to bulk him up? I don't know
58:00
Speaker 1: if that they're trying to balk him up or I mean,
58:04
Speaker 1: here's here's the deal. He was small last year, he
58:08
Speaker 1: had he got he gave some effective reps, and he
58:12
Speaker 1: looks bigger now bigger, and I hope it's bigger and
58:16
Speaker 1: in shape, bigger and not bigger and like dragging rear end,
58:20
Speaker 1: not in good shape big. I don't know, we'll see.
58:22
Speaker 1: It just looks big to me. Because if somebody's big,
58:25
Speaker 1: like Mike Perkins and is out of shape, clearly perfect
58:29
Speaker 1: the Jaguars video guy, he's clearly out of shape. He's
58:32
Speaker 1: clearly big, and you know that he couldn't, you know,
58:34
Speaker 1: exercise because I'm looking at him, right now. That's danger
58:40
Speaker 1: you're stepping into dangerous. I can handle anything. I don't doubt. Um.
58:46
Speaker 1: We all know about Andrew Luck as we wrap up here. Um,
58:48
Speaker 1: their defense is talking about playing better. Have you seen
58:52
Speaker 1: the Colts defense yet? And and what do you see
58:55
Speaker 1: from them? Should the Jaguars be able to get first
58:57
Speaker 1: half points this week? Yes? And because I did think
59:00
Speaker 1: they're I think it's a game that offensively, you should
59:03
Speaker 1: feel confident that you can get some things done. Alright,
59:06
Speaker 1: because here's the reality. Jabal Shared is their best player
59:09
Speaker 1: on defense. Anybody in the league could have signed Jabal
59:12
Speaker 1: Shared for next enough in a couple more so than
59:14
Speaker 1: this Leonard kid that they're excited about. Darius Leonard the lineback,
59:17
Speaker 1: he's a he's a rookie linebacker who's got some stats.
59:20
Speaker 1: But watching the last two games, which there's the only
59:23
Speaker 1: two games I've watched so far, I watched them play
59:25
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in the Oakland Raiders, and Darius Leonard,
59:29
Speaker 1: this rookie that you're talking about, he looks like he's
59:31
Speaker 1: a solid player. Does he look like a great player? No,
59:35
Speaker 1: Jabal Shared is still I think one of the most
59:37
Speaker 1: dangerous players that they have on that front, they have
59:39
Speaker 1: a rookie that wears number fifty seven and his name
59:42
Speaker 1: is Komoka Toure. He's one of the many other second
59:45
Speaker 1: round picks that they have out of Rutger's He's a
59:47
Speaker 1: pretty effective edge rusher as well. Uh. Inside, they've got
59:50
Speaker 1: some veteran guys. But look, it's uh, I don't want
59:53
Speaker 1: to say it's a pedestrian defense or no name defense,
59:55
Speaker 1: but look it's this is a defense that you should
59:58
Speaker 1: be able to have some really good plays on. All right,
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Speaker 1: and we'll leave it on that. Thanks for time, as always,
1:00:02
Speaker 1: appreciate you enjoying it. All right, So there's your Tuesday
1:00:05
Speaker 1: edition of Jags Drive Time. John Osier is back in
1:00:08
Speaker 1: that seat tomorrow. Oh boy, Uh no, no offense, John.
1:00:13
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to seeing you be ready to work.
1:00:16
Speaker 1: Uh for Joe and for stone Cold in the other room.
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Speaker 1: Have a good day.