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- 0:00So what is the first thing that goes through a narcissist mind
- 0:04when they are meeting you? When you first meet a
- 0:06narcissist, what's going on in their minds?
- 0:09What are they thinking? How do they feel?
- 0:11That's what we're talking about today, y'all.
- 0:13If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:15I'm a diagnosed narcissist. Here to give you the perspective
- 0:18of a narcissist and welcome to another episode of The
- 0:21Narcissist Code. Boom.
- 0:40Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
- 0:43Yes, the very first thought of most narcissistic people when
- 0:49they first meet you. Now when I say when they first
- 0:52meet you, your relationship the the, the, the relationship does
- 0:57not matter. When they first meet you as a
- 1:00friend, when they first meet you as a Co worker, when they first
- 1:03meet you as a as a complete stranger.
- 1:07What is the first thought that is going through a narcissist
- 1:09mind when they first meet you? Drum roll please.
- 1:18The first thing they're thinking about is trying to how to get
- 1:20back at you, how to hurt you, how to take you down a peg, how
- 1:26to take you down a peg or two, right.
- 1:30How to take you down a peg or two.
- 1:32Narcissistic people are thinking about hurting you.
- 1:36Well, Lee, that's so morbid and dark and so bleak.
- 1:41And Lee, we also notice you got your hair down.
- 1:42I got to take it down here. I got to let it breathe every
- 1:44once in a while. This is always in the ponytail,
- 1:45right? But the first thought is how to
- 1:49hurt you. But Lee, that what?
- 1:52Why the hell? So it's intentional that they're
- 1:54trying to hurt you from the beginning.
- 1:55So, Lee, they want to hurt you from the beginning.
- 1:57This is what it's all about. What?
- 1:59That's so dark. No, now listen to me.
- 2:02It's going to sound confusing. No, it's not going to sound
- 2:04confusing. Bear with me here, y'all?
- 2:06Are there narcissists out there that think about hurting you
- 2:10from the very beginning because they like to hurt you?
- 2:12Absolutely yes. The intent is to hurt you from
- 2:15the beginning for some narcissistic people, right?
- 2:17From some psychopaths or sociopaths, right?
- 2:19They want to hurt you from the beginning.
- 2:20They're sadistic, right? They want to bring pain to you
- 2:23because it makes them feel good, right?
- 2:26Right, but on the other side of the spectrum is your regular
- 2:29run-of-the-mill narcissistic person like myself.
- 2:32I'm thinking of ways to take you down a peg or to hurt you.
- 2:35To defend myself. It's about self-defense.
- 2:40It's about defending myself first.
- 2:42I have to be able to defend myself at all costs.
- 2:46I cannot take this. I look it is.
- 2:49It's either to defend myself or to make myself feel bigger,
- 2:54right? It's to make myself feel bigger.
- 2:57So the first part, defending myself, yo, I cannot take
- 3:00rejection. I cannot take rejection.
- 3:03I cannot take being, I cannot take somebody being somebody
- 3:08making fun of me. I cannot take that.
- 3:09I have a fragile ego. My ego is too fragile for all of
- 3:12this, right? So I can't take the person that
- 3:15is trying to hurt my feelings or just make it.
- 3:17I cannot take being the butt of a joke.
- 3:20I just cannot take that right? I cannot live like that.
- 3:23I get, I just, I, I can't, I do not operate under those
- 3:27parameters right there. You know what I mean?
- 3:29I just do not, I cannot operate under those set under that set
- 3:32parameter right there. But what I can do?
- 3:35So in order to not be the butt of the joke, I have to find ways
- 3:39to joke on you, find ways to hurt you just in case you try to
- 3:43pick on me and make fun of me and have everybody else laughing
- 3:46at me. I have to find ways to one up
- 3:49you to defend myself, right? I have to have comebacks and
- 3:53clap backs, and I also have to be able to win.
- 3:57How can I defeat you is the mentality or the first thoughts
- 4:01that goes through a narcissistic person's mind when they first
- 4:03meet you. How can I defeat you?
- 4:06How can I take you down? How can I defeat you?
- 4:08How can I knock you down? What can I do?
- 4:11That's what they're thinking. How can I defeat this person
- 4:14that I just met? So they study you.
- 4:17This is why a lot of times you get narcissists like that.
- 4:20When they first meet you, they're ask you all these
- 4:22questions. They're inquisitive.
- 4:23You look, you're, you're enamored you like I've never had
- 4:26people ask me so many questions about myself.
- 4:28I kind of like it the whole time they're they're writing this
- 4:31stuff down or they're committing it, committing it to their
- 4:33memories so they can use it against you later on.
- 4:36They need to be able to bring you down a pig or to hurt you in
- 4:40some way, shape or form in order to defend themselves or to make
- 4:43themselves feel better. Like they I cannot miss me
- 4:47personally. I'm always thinking of like Alex
- 4:49Alec Baldwin in the show 30 Rock.
- 4:51He said he's like when I first meet someone, I'm always
- 4:54thinking how of ways how to fight them.
- 4:55This is literally what he said he thinks of when he first meets
- 4:59people. He thinks of how he can beat
- 5:01them up or how to fight them. 30 right was a good show.
- 5:06Yeah. But this is the mentality I was
- 5:09like, it's either to they want, I want, I want to avoid shame at
- 5:11all costs. And if I can't avoid it, I
- 5:14needed to know how to deflect it and return it back to you.
- 5:17So if you make me feel ashamed for what I'm doing and what I've
- 5:20done, then I need to be able to hurt you and make you feel
- 5:22ashamed. And I need to be able to return
- 5:24this volley, right? I need to be I need to be able
- 5:26to return this volley back to you.
- 5:30You know what I mean? This is what this is the thing
- 5:32so many people just miss out on when you're dealing with a
- 5:35manipulative abusive person. Like they are going to do this
- 5:38from the beginning. Now I know you, you heard me
- 5:40mention hurting you and defending themselves.
- 5:43The other reason that narcissists have this very first
- 5:46thought about hurting you, how to get back at you.
- 5:49The very first thought number one, this is where the thumbnail
- 5:53right here we go. That's the words can be right
- 5:56here. The devil would thought
- 5:57defending themselves like because they want to feel bigger
- 6:01than you. Like I do not like being around
- 6:06people who have more than me in every single way, who look
- 6:09better than me, who are funnier than me, who have more money
- 6:12than I do, who, who are just like just more popular than I
- 6:16am. That makes me feel this big.
- 6:19And I 'cause I have y'all, I have a personality disorder that
- 6:21makes me feel this big all the time.
- 6:23I'm super paranoid, right? So this is what I'd be thinking.
- 6:26You know, this is the space that so many people fall into.
- 6:29Like, this is that mindset. Like narcissistic people do this
- 6:35all the time. Like, they don't want to feel
- 6:38smaller than you. So I need to make myself feel
- 6:41bigger than you are. And in order to make myself
- 6:44allow myself to feel bigger than you, I need to know how to take
- 6:48you down to pay. I need to know how to knock you
- 6:50off that pedestal so I can feel bigger than you in some way,
- 6:53shape or form. I need to find at least one way
- 6:56that I feel like I'm better than you.
- 6:59And it's hard with some people, right?
- 7:00You know, it's just like, damn you, tall, dark, handsome, you
- 7:03got more money, you got you muscly.
- 7:05I don't know you, just you, you know what I mean?
- 7:09It's it's always something they're ever going to see if
- 7:13they're ever going. They're never going to see this
- 7:16thing for how it fully goes, how it really is.
- 7:19This is how narcissist mind works, y'all?
- 7:21This is how narcissistic people's minds work.
- 7:24It really is. I'm just telling you straight
- 7:26up, like there's so many narcissistic people out there,
- 7:28right, that handle this situation differently.
- 7:32They want to handle it differently, right?
- 7:34They, they want to do that. Like say they want to be able to
- 7:38knock you down. They do.
- 7:40I cannot stand the thought of somebody being better than me or
- 7:43something. So I have to find a way that I'm
- 7:46better than them. It just, it could be as simple
- 7:49as that right there. Y'all, I'm funnier.
- 7:50At least I'm funnier than you. I got their teeth.
- 7:53I mean my hair longer. It's something they always have
- 7:56to find something to nitpick at you and a lot of y'all know
- 7:59this, a lot of y'all, a lot of y'all understand what exactly
- 8:04what I said. This is why they always find
- 8:06little things about you to nitpick, especially as you, as
- 8:09you're getting to know them, they will find some type of flaw
- 8:14that they can nitpick away, they can nitpick at.
- 8:17So they'll always be picking on you.
- 8:19It it might be little picks or big picks, but they'll always be
- 8:22finding a way to pick on you in some way, shape or form.
- 8:26They'll always be trying to find a way to pick on you to do this
- 8:30type of stuff right here. This is what narcissistic people
- 8:32do. And yeah, they say the longer
- 8:34you around them, the more that they're going to find things to
- 8:37pick at, right? The longer you around this
- 8:39narcissistic person, this abusive person, this
- 8:41manipulative person, the more ammo they're going to have to
- 8:45pick on you with. So This is why I tell so many
- 8:47people, right? They're like keep like make
- 8:50people earn your information right now, some narcissists,
- 8:53right, they don't have they don't even need information
- 8:55about you to try to hurt you and take you down to pay.
- 8:57They'll just use the the physical aspects of you.
- 9:00If they can find a physical flaw, they'll use the physical
- 9:04flaw on you, right? If they can just find a physical
- 9:07flaw, they'll just harp in on that.
- 9:08But if you don't have any physical flaws or your physical
- 9:12flaws, or you know, they have their own physical flaws that
- 9:15you can pick on, they're not going to do that.
- 9:17So they go to some type of emotional flaw, some type of
- 9:20financial flaw. That financial flaw they're
- 9:22going to go to, they're going to try to find something about them
- 9:26that is better than what you have.
- 9:30This is the mindset, This is the mentality of narcissistic
- 9:33people. They're almost always going to
- 9:36try to find a way that they're better than you so they can feel
- 9:39better about themselves. This is how this is how you
- 9:41know, narcissists have these huge egos, but they're as thin
- 9:46as a slice of a piece of paper narcissist ego.
- 9:49Matter of fact, it's just like it's like this narcissist, a
- 9:52narcissist ego is 8 by 11 and a half a millimeter thick.
- 9:58You know what I'm saying it's easy to break it's a big ego,
- 10:01but it's easy it's paper thin right, so they have to try to
- 10:05find a way to make sure that they are better than you at
- 10:09something it's paper thin y'all, not thin papers.
- 10:11I'm I'm giving y'all an example with paper like y'all don't know
- 10:14where how thick or thin a notebook paper is right, so
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