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❄️ RHOSLC Recap "Founding Fathers, Feather Pens & Fiery Feuds!" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back in Darlings. It's a Salt Lake City day
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  Speaker 3: and we're celebrating America and we're going to be I'm
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  Speaker 3: in red and white. I have my best founding father
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  Speaker 3: outfit on.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best I could do founding realtor.
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  Speaker 3: Sure right, it is a blazer. It is a blazer.
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  Speaker 3: It's a rand blazer and a ruffled collar.
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  Speaker 2: It looks good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you've achieved a founding father luck.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I feel it feels powerful. Oh
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  Speaker 3: and I have a feather pen. Look at this. It's
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  Speaker 3: not white. Maddie got this for me for like holiday.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. It was my birthday. Isn't that so sweet?
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's from my favorite store up here in
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  Speaker 3: Santa Clarita called Barn and Charm. Barn and Charm. This
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  Speaker 3: is a charm.
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  Speaker 1: And a little barn. I'm not gonna be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of barn side of this actual feather.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's probably more barn than it is charm. Anyway. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: So what an episode? Excited to discuss it? Darling's what
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  Speaker 3: happened on this episode? Well, let's discuss. Let's get right
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  Speaker 3: into it. Thank you, thank you very much. We'll start
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning. Cheers with our teacups.
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  Speaker 2: Cheers, cheers to cheers.
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  Speaker 3: Yay.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted closer shots of those teacups.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to say, you always do, and you should.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine that they remember when Shannon spent like, what
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  Speaker 3: was it like three thousand dollars on those plates and
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: they didn't deliver the right ones. Oh my god, I
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: wonder what they charged, what they charged in Salt Lake
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  Speaker 3: City for those dishes, the whole setup, what did like
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  Speaker 3: she rented a warehouse or was it a sound stage?
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  Speaker 3: I guess it looked like a sound stage, That's what
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  Speaker 3: I think it was, and then like all the fixings
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  Speaker 3: that come with it, you know, for that, I think
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  Speaker 3: that was brilliant. No one's ever done that before.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. I mean, I have to think
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  Speaker 1: that there aren't many sound stages in Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong with all these influencers. Maybe they have.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's tons of sound stages, but I like, hm,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't. I guess every city must have once
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  Speaker 1: at least one sound stage. Let's start taking advantage of those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's do it. Yeah, I think it was smart.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I'm sure, Like listen, in Salt Lake they
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  Speaker 3: can get you know, airplane hangars for influencer events. You
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: can get anything you need in Salt Lake City, it seems,
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  Speaker 3: or the surrounding areas provo as we're learning from Secret
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  Speaker 3: Lives of Mormon Wives, available over on patreon dot com
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  Speaker 3: slash drama Darling. Check it out first episodes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just one and two right now, we'll be getting into
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  Speaker 3: the rest. Also, we had a question coming soon. We
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  Speaker 3: were going to cover that tomorrow. Absolutely, okay, just Bronwyn
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  Speaker 3: is winning on so many levels, like in you know,
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  Speaker 3: on screen, off screen in so many ways. And the
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  Speaker 3: gown that she wore with the Constitution on it, I mean, wow,
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  Speaker 3: it's incredible. She's showing up and she's showing out totally.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're going to immediately repurpose an idea from
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  Speaker 1: last season, I ea stealing. Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: If you're gonna take Heather's idea.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately, yeah, you've better read a soundstage and make it
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  Speaker 1: look totally different. Even though we're all like, I was
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: so glad Heather said, Wait, a second.
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  Speaker 3: I did this. Honestly, it says a lot about Heather
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  Speaker 3: that she didn't like troll her for stealing the idea,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But and so good for her,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, it was a recycled idea. Yeah, like albeit
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  Speaker 3: good but still.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't take the cell phones out and that
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: and she could argue, well, that didn't involve cell phones,
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  Speaker 1: but it involved the whole idea of it and the terrible, generic,
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: broken promises that were made.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't get as dark, you know. Maybe this was
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  Speaker 3: like the two point zero version of it being a
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  Speaker 3: little bit better. I mean, it did explode, but I
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  Speaker 3: was more interested to find out if that constitution gown
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  Speaker 3: was a Christian Seriano, because she wears a lot of
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  Speaker 3: her his stuff and.
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  Speaker 2: It really looked she said she always.
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  Speaker 3: Pays yeah, yeah, and other housewives do not. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: that was right. Okay, Well why don't we start at
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: the beginning, when ron Win meets Todd at the airport
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  Speaker 3: in a sloth costume, yet.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: To celebrate the opening of Zutopia too when this one air,
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  Speaker 1: They're like, you know, Zutopia two is opening, when this
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  Speaker 1: will air?
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  Speaker 3: Fastest Sloth in the Salt Lake city area, Come on,
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  Speaker 3: Todd boo. I was like, oh my gosh, she's trying
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  Speaker 3: to like I mean, she sneaks up behind him. She's
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: scared living daylights out of him. I was like, maybe
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: we have a plan here. It is scare him into
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  Speaker 3: all heart attack, A nice catty, a little heart attack
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  Speaker 3: right there, and oh no, no one can come to
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  Speaker 3: your rescue. So dark.
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  Speaker 1: No, he just doesn't care. He is unaffected.
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: He had a little jump. He had a little jump.
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  Speaker 1: I do, I won't. I don't get him. He I know,
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  Speaker 1: he just hates filming, so he is not going to
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  Speaker 1: give us one reaction.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, he will tell you what yell. And then
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: also he must really be into history because the second
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  Speaker 3: she said Boston spilled the tea party, he really liked
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  Speaker 3: that idea. He had a chuck. He did he not.
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: That was the best. That's the best pod we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we're ever going to get back
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  Speaker 3: there again.
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  Speaker 1: But he that was him cracking up. Yeah, that was
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: his lmafo.
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  Speaker 3: That was totally up his alley. And I was like, okay, bron,
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  Speaker 3: when you got him on that one, you got him.
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  Speaker 3: He's like smart, it's funny. It's kind of a pun.
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: Wait wait a minute, this Housewives thing might not be
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  Speaker 3: so bad after all.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: You keep me laughing, and honestly, like he and he
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: said that they hung the traders, and I was like,
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: Todd would be a good trader. Oh, I mean he
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  Speaker 1: gets booted right away, maybe because he wouldn't be talking
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  Speaker 1: to anybody. No, he might seem.
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  Speaker 3: Might and he might lie because he is sort of like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, turtling about.
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: Turtling about.
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  Speaker 2: Popping that head in.
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  Speaker 3: And out, and those cozy chairs in the castle. He'd
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: fall asleep really.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: Oh man, he gets some good naps in.
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  Speaker 3: The only controversy would be he would steal someone's cherry
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  Speaker 3: from their Sunday and then then they would accuse him
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  Speaker 3: of being a trader.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there would be.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Some fallout in that weird sink cubby kitchen they sink ubby.
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: Oh I missed that sink cubby. That's just the worst idea.
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  Speaker 2: It really really is.
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: Every time, it's not an actual working sink. It's just
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: a cubby for stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it was.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: It is like a working sink at some point, but
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: then they were probably like, this doesn't make sense, so
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  Speaker 1: we're going to seal off the faucet while we filmed
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  Speaker 1: this and just put snack jars in here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, well I hate that even more.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like any of it.
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  Speaker 3: Get that eye asked to this episode will be about
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  Speaker 3: the sink cubby.
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  Speaker 1: In Traders, not even the show.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course, of course not. All right, So
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  Speaker 3: that was a fun ride home. We got to see
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  Speaker 3: Todd laugh. Loved it. I loved it for them. She's like, oh,
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: I made you laugh. Oh, this is right, Remember how
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: I think it was last week? I was like, I
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: think that bron Wynn has already gotten her citizenship because
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: she's all over social media talking about, you know, voting
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff. That your voice be heard, remember,
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  Speaker 3: I said that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a great way to do it. And
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: I was surprised when the ladies were all kind of
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: pulled in what they might have had to know for
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  Speaker 1: their citizenship test.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, that was shocking. Oh. By the way, this
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  Speaker 3: reminds me of the Real Housewives had an Evening on
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: the Weakest Link in Evening. I don't know when they
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: take it, but anyway, it was like Cynthia Bailey, Vicky
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: and Jill's erin and there was a there was like
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: a quick little snippet of them. Oh that's great, that's
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  Speaker 3: really interesting. I mean, you know, it's a similar thing.
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  Speaker 3: You think that they would know the answer, but they didn't.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? Also,
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: the pressure, the pressure of being on camera and things
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  Speaker 3: like that, there's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that I don't know how great I
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  Speaker 1: would do at in a game show setting without some
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  Speaker 1: kind of rehearsal for the pressure of it just getting
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  Speaker 1: thrown in there. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even think of a song like if you
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: were to rely, like how does a Silent Night go?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh god, I do it. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know it. I know, I know it,
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  Speaker 3: you know it. I get really, you know, completely freaked
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  Speaker 3: out when there's pressure or something like that, but not
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  Speaker 3: under pressure. I'm a genius, you know, I'm a breaking genius.
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  Speaker 3: It's all about being relaxed. It's all about like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's that's how they get you.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they get you in these game shows. That's
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  Speaker 1: why we all feel real fucking smart at hell.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, no pressure, All right, let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: Whitney and Justin in this incredible conversation on the porch.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's the most real. I mean, I know there
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  Speaker 1: may have been a few other times most real I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen Whitney.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it was amazing. Oh my god, it was heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 3: It's really really sad. I wonder if their marriage will
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: survive this because he, from what I understand, If I'm wrong,
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: you please correct me, is the owner was the owner
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: of that MLM company that bought out that like merged
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  Speaker 3: with Whitney.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's one of the owners because it sounds
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: like it's not as simple to untangle Whitney's stuff from that.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: And I do want Whitney. I know she's mad, but
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: it's it's like I want her to also take some
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: responsibility on it too, because it can't like that way
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: she won't make the mistake again.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think she'll ever trust him again when it
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: comes to this. Yeah, and I know, yeah, I think
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: she definitely learned her lesson to say that she regrets
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: having she regrets having trusted in him thinking that he
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: would be the one, you know, that would make the
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: right decision. And also it sounded like they're presenting her
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: with these options, and there's really only one option at
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: that point, which is, you know, the only way out
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  Speaker 3: of your business situation in order to not like, you know,
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: declare bankruptcy or have your business completely fail, is to
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: merge it with this MLM. Her next step was that
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  Speaker 3: the next step would have been great. The next step
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: would have been the big stores, and because she had
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: been waiting for that and waiting for that and waiting.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: For that, oh I see, I see.
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  Speaker 3: And she hadn't heard from any of them, and she
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: hadn't gotten it, and that was the dream. Then she
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: folded and went with the other option, which was obviously
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: the MLM. I don't know if she would have gone
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: that direction if her company was doing great. I think
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: she would have maybe held out for longer, or I
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: could be wrong. Perhaps at that point, Justina was saying,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: I think to get to the next level, you're going
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: to want to do this because big Box is not
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: coming your way, so you need to make a move.
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  Speaker 3: So she probably and that's when she was like, you
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  Speaker 3: showed me, you flash numbers at me, and you basically
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: convinced me that this was the way to go. Well,
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: clearly it was completely backfired. It's awful. You know, I
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: really felt her pain. I think so many business owners
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: and small small business owners, and even if you're not,
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: you can feel that pain of the things that you've
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  Speaker 3: been trying to build up and work for this whole time,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: and then in one fell swoop, it is gone. It's done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and now you can't even like rip your name off
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  Speaker 3: of it. Your reputation, your business reputation is tarnished. Not
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: to say she can't figure it out and move forward
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: and do something different. And I really hope from this
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  Speaker 3: airing that like something comes of it, Maybe something else
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: will come along that she can attach herself to and
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: be successful at and with a completely different business model,
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: a completely different deal, you know, Like I.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: Get what she's saying. She's like, she has personally invested
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  Speaker 1: all this money and she has the product ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: So she's already sunk all this capital into this thing
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  Speaker 1: and now it's just sitting there in limbo. Like she
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: now she's gonna have to start all over branding, build it.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: That's going to cost so much money.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do feel better.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I hope we all feel better about Whitney, because we
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: were all a little like oh, when it was like
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: old Justin's business model and it was like, remember you
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: could have like one on one team building with Whitney coaching,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: or like, it was weird things happening with that company
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: that everybody was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck?
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that that wasn't Whitney's idea.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's an MLM structure, right, and it's not that
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: out of the out of the box of how they
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: do it. You know, not all MLMs are a complete
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: and utter scam and a total ripoff. You know. It
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: just depends on that, and it depends on right, It
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: depends on the business structure. It depends on obviously what
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the product is and what they're doing. The business structure
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: of what it seems like with this was I think
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: they didn't have enough money to start. And then you know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: you have to get people people like you or I
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: or anybody who wants to be be their own boss,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: sell product and get a percentage of it, okay, and
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: a product that they believe in and they want to
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: sell and have association with. And then from there you
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: have to like you have to buy the product yourself,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: so you have it have a certain amount in order
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: to experiment with it, right, But in order to do
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: like training and stuff like that, that's not necessarily something
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: you have to do. That is an option. You don't
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: have to spend all this money and fly to Texas
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: for a big convention, you know. That's something that people
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: decide that they want to do in order to learn
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: skills on selling and how to grow their business and
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I think the attachment of Whitney
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: was being a part of that. So says she'd be
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: at a convention and there would be a workshop with her.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: So it's not really that outlandish that she would have
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: been the face of this company and trying to lead
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: this company in a way that would be successful. It's
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: not the craziest idea, you know, especially for Utah, It's
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: really not. But they were in over their head and
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: when they were supposed to have that first like meeting,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: this meet up you know where all these where people
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: were going to go and like train and get this experience,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: they canceled it six days away from it actually happening,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: and then they were not able to get their money
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: back from them. So that's that's like I think the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: biggest thing that happened and that's why there was a controversy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I mean allegedly, that's from what I have read. That's
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: from what I understand, that's what happened. And poor Whitney like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: it's not like she's the one who's going like it
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  Speaker 3: has to be canceled and I want to take their money, Like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: that's not what happened. You know, it wasn't funded well enough.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: They didn't have enough money to put this on, like
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: and her it was like, you trust people to be
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: in charge of the business aspect of what they're doing,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and they didn't do it well.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: It was a bad look on this episode though, when
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: she is frustrated with Justin for paying back vendors, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: was like, don't do that. Camera.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I think that well, I think it was a lead in. Honestly,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I think it was a lead into the conversation. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: think it was. It was more like, well that hurt.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: You want to know why that hurt because you're the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: one who hurt us because I trusted you. And that's
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: because I'm now all the money is being siphoned out
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: of my bank account, the money that I have built
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: up for this purpose, and you're the one who took
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: it out like literally and figuratively and metaphorically. I don't
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: think she was actually saying, like, I'm bummed that we
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: paid our vendors back. I wonder if there's going to
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: be a lawsuit.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, maybe. I mean I don't think that she's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: going to go quietly into the night, and she shouldn't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: if if it was other people mishandling it, and you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: they can always say, well, there were no guarantees and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: maybe Justin did over sell it to you, Whitney. But
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I guess, like, h I think we're going to hear
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: more about it. I will say, I hope, hope, hope
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that they don't get themselves into such a financial situation
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: where they're going to have to like declare bankruptcy. But
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: at the same time, like I on a personal level
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that they don't. But I do think it sounds like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing that she might be leaning towards
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  Speaker 1: for the businesses, so that they aren't going to have
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  Speaker 1: to pay all this money back they can't afford to pay, right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she's destroyed. And like the fact that
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  Speaker 3: never want to be in that situation. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: And also her gripe about like I've been asking you
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  Speaker 3: to get involved with this business this whole time and
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  Speaker 3: you basically have been like, hmmm, yeah, your little hobby,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And this I remember her
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  Speaker 3: talking about this before, and I'm like, you're an idiot,
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  Speaker 3: Like you don't know what a juggernaut of housewives business
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  Speaker 3: a successful one can be. And if you are actually
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in the business world, you could help, you know, make
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: this very successful. And I think she feels slighted by him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't honestly, I do not know how their marriage
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  Speaker 3: is going to make it. That's my resting comment. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna make it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well I will say they might make it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm mean I say they will make it because I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: thought they were done last season, but then they weren't.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So they if they can get through this figure out
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: these weird times, whether it's having somebody fake rob their.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: House, if it's highly suggest.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Having somebody steal cash out of your grocery card at
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the store, thousands and thousands of dollars. I don't know
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: how you bounce back, but I you know, it seems
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to work for other people. And look at how successful
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: all their marriages are.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Now, you know, they should talk to by the way,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Whitney justin, they should talk to Brittany because she was
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: a Salu dictorians.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: That's what she said.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: She was like, I was a.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Salu dictorian and I don't even know the answer to that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: When she was being asked the civic kind of questions.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Heather has an air fier. Mm hmmm. She
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: loves it. She loves it more than her kids. Clearly,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And I get it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I have one. I don't I we have one. We
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: don't use it that often.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you real quick, do you I forget?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I think you told me you have the cylinder kind
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: or like the oven kind this rectangle or square oven kind?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Uh of square?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: All right, well we'll talk. We'll get you into that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: airfry us cylinder.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I mean that makes me think it's like going to
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the bank inside the bank, like some money inside the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: tube and it goes into the bank, into the air fryer.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's the cylinder kind that is good for
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: like fries and stuff. They're all good. I just think
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: like when you're really ready for air fer you're ready.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get the lifestyle just like bangs, you know, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: bangs are a lifestyle.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you preheat that air fryer and it and
• 21:26
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• 21:28
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• 21:31
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• 28:37
  Speaker 3: how many kids does Heather have? I thought she had three?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually had to look it up and it's two.
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  Speaker 1: I always want to go that she had three daughters.
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  Speaker 1: Can we I just want to double check orders.
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  Speaker 3: That is so weird? All right, you looked it up.
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It's three Georgia Ashley Annabelle. Now I talked myself out
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of a third daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Though, But the third one must be the oldest and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: she must be really gone, like she was the first
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: one to go. Okay, so we got we saw that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: the middle one and the youngest one.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: The youngest, sorry, I mean I can't keep all of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: everything going.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Listen, I thought, you know, Shannon's daughters and Heather Gay's
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: daughters are like the same to me, so you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and I did just hear.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I know, we talked about it on Mormon Wives. I'd
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: listened to this American Life and it's Heather and her daughters,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: and I was like really questioning myself on how many
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: daughters talked on it, like might be with all three?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Then I have to go back and listen to it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Lord, that was okay, all right, who cares? All right,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: let's talk about Let's talk about bronwhen and uh Muzzy
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and Bronwin getting their pride flags and sending them out
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: because of the new law in Salt Lake City.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they can't have them on government buildings, so
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they Bronwin made an offer to any of the businesses
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think locally and statewide, any business that wanted a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Pride flag, she would send them a Pride Well it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: an lgbt QIA plus Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I uh, that's gonna be a lot of money
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: shipping those out. Not gonna lie, I mean, because I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people are going to respond, which
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: is great.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I also kind of appreciated that she went to a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: local business and is buying from the local business instead
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of just ordering him bulk from like TMU and sending herself.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Is actually awesome.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, wait, I'm I like Bronwin Moore and more.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: The discussion with Muzzy, you know, it's always like a
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: little bit of sweet and then a lot of you know, sour,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: which is tough. But at the end of the day,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: you know, when you get the takeaway of Muzzy saying like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll do this ungs it helps you, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, I can't believe she just said that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They call it bread crumbing. That's how I feel like.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: She doesn't she doesn't mean to be doing it, but.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah's just what that's all she can and it's all
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: she can do. It's all she can do because of
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the way she was raised. I mean, we saw it
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: with Sutton's mom too. It's like very similar to Sutton's
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: mother and I you know, at the end when she
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: was like, well, you know you did, You've done a
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: great job and I'm proud of you, I was shocked.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, is this the same woman we've been saying?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: But it is because she does, like, you know, pull
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: back in those areas and make sure that bron Wind
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: knows where she that there's still that still a power move.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I get, like, I get why it's really hard for Bronwin.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I get it. I'm seeing that scene. I'm like, gosh,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that's hard because you see, Muzzy has the ability to
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: love or to say the things you want to hear,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and then she gives that. But I would think, like
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's another day and Muzzy's going to come after me
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: for something horror like just trigger.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, one step at a time.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: It seems like it's improving. Oh my god, so this well,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, from what we've seen, it seems like they've
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: made progress.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It will be really interesting at the reunion to hear
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: how Muzzy reacted, how Bronwin says Muzzy handled people critiquing
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Muzzy as a mother, because after this season's over, I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: so curious how Muzzy handled the backlash, you know, of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: hearing how we all felt she handled a lot of
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the scenes with bron went this was a good one.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: We're giving her a w but I'm just saying in general,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I wonder if some of this will sink in. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Well Todd had you know, Todd had a hard time
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: with the backfire on him and he heard it and
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: he wanted to change.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And uh.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I wonder how much Muzzy will be protected from all
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: of the chatter, because if she's on Instagram, that's gonna
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: be a problem, obviously, But if she's not on social
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: media and no one's telling her, then she's living in
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: a bubble.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Even if you're in a bubble, she is going to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: run into an old contact. She is going to hear
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: about it. She'll hear about it. There's no way. It's
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: her whole world. It'd be one thing if it was
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: like my mom not hearing something. She doesn't watch Housewives
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and isn't on the show. But Muzzy's on the show,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like people are. That's the only thing people are going
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to talk to her about. So I don't think she's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's sick.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: You can escape it. You don't think she can escape it? Okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: all right? So we go to the Boston Spell the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: tea party, and the dressing up was pretty epic. Even
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Lisa did the very least and she still looked good.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: What the fuck it was Meredith wearing it was like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: funny Toddler.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: It was like the zipped up gray thing with like
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: fluffy sleeves. I don't know. I think she got it
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: straight off of like Amazon.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Had like a ruffel underwear bottom kind of thing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Like you would see like a bloomer.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like alien baby.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: It was like silver, I don't this will work. She's like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Brooks sexually designed this.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: For me, sexually designed.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Actually a liar. He didn't say that liar sexually. I said, Actually,
• 34:47
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• 34:54
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• 34:56
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• 35:00
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• 35:11
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• 35:14
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• 35:16
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• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And Mary was like, oh no, no, no, no.
• 35:22
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• 35:26
  Speaker 1: said I brought my own and it's the exact one.
• 35:28
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• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Perfect, Mary, No, no, not the ease, this one that
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: looks sexually like it. Okay, So well, Brittany and Jared
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: broke up over Joao, and they want to know who
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the leak was, Whitney. She's like, I'm glad that Whitney apologized.
• 35:52
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• 35:55
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• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that you were flirting with the crew, and that's how
• 36:02
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• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Well, you can tell Brittany's gonna think this is something
• 36:08
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• 36:13
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• 36:18
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• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Jared, Oh, you're flirting with Joau. We're gonna break up.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I love it, Okay. So now we have like this
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: whole situation that unfolds because everyone's writing down on their
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: tea before they throw it in the harbor. Bronwyn told
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Meredith what Whitney said about, you know, her seeing Mereth
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: drinking at the bar in the airport, and Whitney's pested
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: about it, and bron was like, it's really between the
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: two of you at this point. And then with like
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the way that this ramped up with Whitney and Meredith
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: got so real so fast with her being like do
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: you did you think I was going to call a
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: belligerent woman? Like whoa? Those are fighting words, this whole
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: fight between Whitney and Meredith, and then of course bringing
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it home, Heather Gay she should have stood on a
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: chair with a feather and just.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Preached, preached, called a macaroni.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: It was lacking entertainment because of the seriousness of the matter,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: which is that I do feel concerned about Meredith and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: they are all yelling at her and she's not going
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: to admit it. She's going to deflect. She's you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: you can't get her, and it's like the worst possible
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: thing you could do to somebody. You're trying to box
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: her in when she's a cat. She's going to scratch
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: the hell out of you. What do you expect from this?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And you really, I do think have to ask a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: very direct question, which is what I've been saying. Were
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you prescribed a medication and you took it before the flight?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Was that medication allegedly perhaps ambient? The drinking on top
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of it is its own thing, But like that's the question.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: But I Also, I don't think she's going to answer
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: that anyway. She'd be like I never tank pills or
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: medication or drugs unless I have a strapped throat.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But she is dancing around it. And I really saw
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it this episode and the drug test, like I was like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: what are you doing, Meredith, Like, especially because they did
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: they're not going to take them. They're not going to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: take these drugs, like you know what I mean. But
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that she put the caviat in the bags, oh.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: My god, that was amazing. And that's why they were cold,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: because it's just Yes, by the way, I was at
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: my cabarete Vegas, I was gifted Meredith ars caviar.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Did you try it yet?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Yes? It is so good? It is okay, so delicious.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: And the way that I've had it, I had it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I put I toasted an English muffin, I put cream
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: cheese on it, and then I put the cavier on top.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And let me tell you, it is delicious.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, can you eat it? You? Did you try
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it by itself?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I took the little mother of Pearl spoon and okay,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and it's delicious, delicious, it's great and there are three
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: kinds so I've eaten two of the tins, I have
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: one left to go.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out on your drug test that can
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: test for everything, including caviar.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: It was projection at its best. You're not going to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: find drugs in our system because that was then and
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: this is now, right y and so, but there could
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: be an ex So there could be an explanation. You're right,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: and that would be nice for her to say something
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: like that, but I think the bigger thing is like
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: alcohol and if she feels that she deep down does
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: have an issue, and so she can't give an explanation
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: of anything, because then admitting any kind of guilt is
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: an admission to guilt, any kind of weakness is an
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: admission to guilt. She's a lawyer, so she's not going
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: to do that. And with her just constantly being like,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you're a liar. You know you're lying about me. When
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Heather went off about a liar, like you're questioning my
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: entire existence and who I am on this planet, I
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, relaxed Heather, Like.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That's the same thing that she's she she really does
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: not handle that well. Heather knows that that's her her
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: trigger because that's when she lost it with Monica, like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: she you don't if you want to get Heather call
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: her a liar. Yeah, even when she knows she's not lying,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: she cannot handle it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: No, boy, oh boy. When Whitney was like, uh, you
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: didn't honor on the plane for like at for six hours.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: You didn't yell at her, and then she was like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you want to call me a liar, let's go there.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And then she called her an alcoholic and a pill popper. Yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: that was so savage, not fun to watch. I understand
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: where Whitney's coming from. She is coming from major, major trauma,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: from having an alcoholic father, who oh.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And an attic from top to bottom. Dad, Like he
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: had drug issues too.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: What did I just say?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Alcoholic? But he was on he had drug issues as well?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Oh father?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Oh oh right, yes, he had drug issues as well,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: that's right.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: So it's very powerful to hear her say I'm a
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: witness of this behavior and so I know, like what's
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: going on. Yeah, and it's kind of chilling, But it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: also like, you know, I don't blame Whitney for lashing out.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: You know, everyone has their life and their experiences, and
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: she has every right to share how she feels about
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the situation. But I also feel like when Meredith's like, well,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: then you should have come to me, that's kind of
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: where I land. It's like, if you really do think
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: she has a problem, then it should be off camera
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: and you should be getting together as a group and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: you should have an intervention without anybody seeing this.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Uh, I I don't know. It's it's tricky because I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: feel like Whitney absolutely could have done it off camera
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: because nobody documented what happened on the plane, So Whitney
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: could have absolutely gone to Meredith off camera is to
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: have a conversation because we didn't know.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Like and everybody could have like, well.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was there.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Whitney seems to be leading witsh.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes exactly. Oh And I like that. She was like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: if you've made an accusation amount me, then you have
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: to take the test. It's like so silly, so silly goody,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: silly silly game. And I like it. And Whney's like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: did you want me to thill my pants down? Now?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's so dumb and like, honestly, to Meredith's point, like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to see everybody take these
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: drug tests. If she goes to the bathroom and takes
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a drug test and it comes back totally clean, we
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: don't know, like she might have like use somebody else's pee,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Like that's what people do too, Yeah I do.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like this is pointless.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: It's pointless.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Caviare I don't want.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: The drug test?
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: No?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can more another chilled bag please. I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: her point obviously was to like say, I'm not afraid
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: to say that, you know, I don't take drugs uggs,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm willing to test for it. You know, even
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: though she wanted everyone else to test.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't want it to go here.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But here we are.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Gorgeous bags of iced tavy arm gorgeous.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, like that's just hilarious. Like you know, when
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: you for like a gag gift, a Housewives gag gift,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: just give someone like a drug test and Meredith caviar
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: for Christmas, you know, it's a great gift. When Meredith's like, uh,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: you don't care about me, or you would have come
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to me. I get that because Whitney is saying, I'm
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: witnessing your behavior and I recognize it. And this is
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: a very sensitive topic. So I do understand what Meredith
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: is saying there, and I do agree with that. Mary
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: is like all alone, like in her confessional, just sort
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: of pops in. She's like, yeah, Meredith did yell at Whitney. Yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: And Heather's like, you said, if your friends with Whitney,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: we are done, and you're saying I lied, and and
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: and then she's like, I need you to stand up
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: and say I am horrified by what I said in
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: my actions and I am sorry that I did that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And Meredith's like this big dramatic pause, and she's like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna come to our resolution. Let's
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: move on.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Well, also, Lisa's backpedaling like on everything she said, so
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that was crazy too. I am upside down on this.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: But I am absolutely not only some Meredith's side.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: No, the only the only thing I can say is
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: that I'm glad that someone has Meredith's back because if
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: she has a problem, I mean, I'm looking at her
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: and I'm feeling bad for her in this situation and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I and I don't like it, and I'm like everyone's
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: yelling at her. If she had she there's something horrible
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: on this plane, and like thank god that Lisa actually
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: has had her back on some level, because there's something
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: going on there and it's not it's not fun like you.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: He's yelling at her on camera, and I don't know.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sit well with me. I felt bad because
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: you look at Mare's face and she looks completely guilty, vulnerable, scared.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I think, against and has no idea what happened. I really,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: legit think she has no clue.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, and that's why she Yeah, that's why
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: she looks that way.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is Lisa, with zero substance, has
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: no idea what's going on. So the two of them together,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know where that train's going or that airplane.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think Lisa's point may stand in maybe
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: other situations. I don't know about this one. I don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: think so about Whitney, which is that Lisa said, that's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: that's a crazy accusation to make, meaning like when Winny said,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I'm witnessing your behavior and like I recognize it, meaning
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: like an addict, right, And Lisa's like, that's that's crazy.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: She's weaponizing her experience onto you. And I think that
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: some people do that, I really do. I think that people.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: A lot of people who have had serious situations and
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: have experienced things like that can sometimes have a tendency
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: to put that on other people when they see like
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: the tiniest thing and they're like, that person is you know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: that person must have an alcohol problem because that it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: like they're extra sensitive. But it doesn't necessarily mean that
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: there's actually a problem there. But in this case, I mean,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I do think that, but I appreciate Lisa acknowledging that
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: just to have Meredith back. I feel bad for her.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for Lisa. I just don't understand
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Lisa's what she's up to.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: She could be behind the scenes. Lisa could be behind
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: the scenes talking to her about it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, especially like with Meredith's family. I do
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: think that we will know more at some point. Meredith'll
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: kind of come to She's going to come to.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Some yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: She's had a lot of you know know, traumatic things
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: happened to her in the last few years. You know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: she you know, her and her husband, and then I
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: know that she had a lot of stuff happening with
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: her nephew, and I think she's got other family stuff
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: that she's concerned about and you know, and some bad
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: habits may have gotten in the way of coping.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Well, also just dealing with like being under the microscope
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of the housewives, like just being you know, a reality
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: star and all this in a DJ.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: You know that's in the DJ. That's tough.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And she had that car accident that they played the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: clown car music over.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so savage when they did that, because
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: she was like, I almost died. I almost fell off
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: a cliff, just like rolled in the snow bank, like
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: rolled back at two miles per hour. Well, anyway, Braun,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: when with her costume change, coming out with the Constitution
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: on her dress and the new Friendship amendments was great
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: and I mean to Ben, oh god, yes the dress
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: you mean yes in the museum, Yeah, that was so good.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And then the last one with Mereth being like stop
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: the reactive abuse. Oh no, oh no, now I want
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: to look it up, even though I know the Whitney
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Whitney said it reactive abuse. Reactive abuse meaning when a
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: victim of abuse reacts to that abuse in a way,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: which could include physical or violent physical violence or shouting
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: of their own This isn't because the victim is an abuser,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: rather that they have been a victim abuse of abuse
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: for such a period that they have themselves lashed out. Huh.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: It actually doesn't seem to fit in this situation, because
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: like it would mean that Meredith would be Whitney's abuser.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it doesn't make sense.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So I don't think she used that correctly.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of them used it correctly, including me.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't This is where this is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: where this is therapist category.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh my god. This is so funny.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: They have like another definition. They have an example, for example,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: your immediate disappointment when the horse you bet on doesn't
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: win the race. Hey, how are you bringing me into this?
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: But that would mean that the horse was abusive. Okay,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: we're gonna tap out. We're gonna call it a day.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: What an episode? Yeah, thanks thanks for listening, you know,
• 50:56
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• 50:59
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