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Gene Borrello: Stabbed, Nearly Lost His Foot & Life After the Bonanno Mafia · money loyalty legacy

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Money Loyalty Legacy.
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My name is Matt and normally the champ would chime in right now,
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but he is not here today. He had to go back for work, but
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we are here with everyone's favorite guest.
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You might know him from his book.
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You might know him for his charming personality.
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You might know him from being the best talker on social media
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and the uncrowned king of the true crime genre on the
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Internet, Mr. Jean Barello. What's up, brother?
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What's going on? How are you, man?
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Good, man. Good, Good, good.
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So I see you've been doing these shows.
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A lot of people have been asking about this TV show, right?
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Yeah. A lot of them have been asking
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you questions that you're kind of like, I'm not really sure how
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to answer this, right? Yeah.
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So Matthew Cox and everybody else that was asking about these
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shows, the TV series and everything like that, If you
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don't work in Hollywood, it's kind of hard to answer these
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questions just because there's so much that goes into it.
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All the fans out there, everybody on YouTube, everybody
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asked me, Gene, when's your show come out?
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Gene's with this. Nah, blah, blah.
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Let me tell you guys something. To do a real show, a real TV
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series, it takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and there's
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a lot that goes into development of stuff.
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Right now, Gene doesn't want to do some graves.
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And trash, right? And it costs a lot of money to
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to get a series together and to get investors or a major studio
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involved with something like that.
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It's time, you know what I mean? Like, it's not something that
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happens overnight. But let me tell you something.
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I can't say the name of anything, but we got one of the
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biggest guys from one the biggest production companies in
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the world. No, I can't.
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I can't put I told my wife I. Wish we could because it really
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make them be like. You can't.
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Yeah, keep The thing is, yeah, no.
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Well, for No 100. Yeah, they go like this.
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No, no, yeah. It's legit.
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I mean, I'm, I'm just being real.
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We're being honest right now, like about, you know, things
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that things are really happening.
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It's a long process, right? I spent this entire year talking
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to people about this, going over the script, doing everything to
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make it look right, right. We're not trying to do some
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like, you know, like I said, Gravesend or any of that other
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lower class. It's a long process.
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A lot goes into it. So everybody's questioning it's
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going to happen. Trust me.
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You don't know why, but you can check my credentials.
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Like I really do do do this. And I've been doing this for 18
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years professionally. And at the end of the day,
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people are like, oh, you know what?
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Whatever you think about Gene, at the end of the day, he's
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entertaining. Whether you don't like him or
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whether you like him, you he has your attention and and he's got
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that it factor and his story is definitely something that the
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world wants to see again. There's been no guys out there
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that have even put brought to light the new age of the mafia.
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He's the only person there's he's the only guy from the
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younger generation. That's why people find him so
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interesting. That's why I when I saw him on,
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he was on flag with John years ago, right?
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I was like. 20 Jan February of 2020 I was home for 90 days.
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Not even, not even not even 90 days.
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Sorry, right, 50 something days. Yeah, and, and you came on there
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and I was like, who the fuck is this young guy?
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You know what I mean? Like right, I'm sure.
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Even I look horrible. I'm like, I hate that, you know?
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I told John, I says bro, I can't believe I said.
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I didn't realize how bad I look there compared to how I look
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now. They look like a different my
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girlfriend goes. You look like a different
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person. You look like the same person.
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No, not at all. No, not at all.
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You waste, but you were just what?
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Fresh out of jail. As a whole, out of solitary,
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yeah, it sounds like a fireman. If anyone knows that is.
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You weren't, so you weren't able to eat like you wanted to.
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Three meals a day. The last time you eat at 4:00,
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you don't eat again till 6:00 in the morning.
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No sunlight at all. Because in the feds, there's no
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yard, right? It's just another gate, you
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know? And so that's where I was for
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the last 90 days. Yeah, on that bit, you know.
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And also you weren't like you. You weren't displayed your
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magnetic personality, your charm on it.
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You look, tell you're nervous. Right.
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Well, I couldn't because Johnny, Johnny brought me into the game
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obviously. And I'm saying, and I was just
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following him, right. So they told me where the suits.
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At first it was like, wear suits, wear this, wear that.
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And I'm like, bro, Johnny, he's not my thing.
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He's like, come on, this is the 80s.
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We weren't wearing this. So when I started, when I got on
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for live TV and I like I said, I told this many times before, I
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had no idea what that was. I really didn't know what
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YouTube was. I just did six years.
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I didn't know anything about that stuff before I was in the
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street as a mob guy. Ronnie G won't let us have no
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social media. Weren't allowed to, right?
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Weren't allowed to post Mike Palmation almost got killed for
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posting the picture. So nobody's allowed to do that.
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So when I came out of prison, remind you, I went in a gangster
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came out of cooperating, you know what I'm saying?
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So I didn't know anything else but that gangster life.
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So when I came out, Johnny Eli's like, no, you got to wear a
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suit. I'm like, I never want a suit,
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you know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, I So I went on
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there with him. I wore a suit.
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And I'm like, this ain't me, you know?
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So I started getting phone calls.
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And then I'm like, listen, Johnny, I'm not doing the suit
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thing we got to have. I say, I think it's good if I
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dress how I dress and you dress how you dress because you're a
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80s guy. I'm a 2000s guy.
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And sure enough, it was like the perfect storm.
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Yeah. Everybody loved it.
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He's giving his stories. I'm giving mine.
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We know the same people, just different eras.
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And then you know it blew up. You know what I mean?
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Absolutely, yeah. And The thing is though, anybody
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that's questioning the TV series or anything like that, like
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Gina's evolved a lot like on the Internet over the years, you
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know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people don't know
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you for like how you really are, you know what I mean?
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We talk a lot and like we never talk.
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We're not talking about crimes or anything like that, like the
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mob and all that. Like people want to say it's
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like glorifying the life or something like that, but it's
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not glorifying it. It's telling true stories that
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happened and people find it interesting.
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Jeffrey Dahmer is a TV series out there, That guy.
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Was absolutely disgusting, right?
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You know, watch it. Right.
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So it's like, it's not, it's, it's, it's not glorifying, but
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it is a reality, you know, I'm saying.
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And the end of the day, you learned a lot from it.
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You know, I mean, you're fortunate enough to be out here
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right now and should be doing life right now, right?
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Well, I was just telling that before the thing started, but my
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end, I'm saying my end game was prison walls.
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You know what I'm saying? If I didn't do what I did, you
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know, my end game was, you know, the same ending for everybody.
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You know, I was doing crimes that carried lots of time.
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I wasn't out there just saying, Oh, I'm a makeup right, I'm
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saying no, who's doing violent crimes?
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And with my record, you know, that's in you know, that's in 30
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year sentence, 40 year sentence, you know what I mean?
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So you know, at the end of the day, people, you know, a lot of
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people that you know, stole that life is so mad because they
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thought a lot of people thought I was gonna come home and just
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live under a rock, right. But the most people that really
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knew me like that, I grew up like this kids not hiding this
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kids gonna be he's going to be outspoken because as soon as I
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came home, like second day, I was on Instagram starting right.
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I heard you were saying something.
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I heard you had something to say.
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You did. All right.
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So I was already and then I was getting phone calls from the
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prosecutor like within the first week.
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They're like, bro, you starting already?
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We're hearing. I'm like, no, they're like, we
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know everything. You're starting already.
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I was a guy and I just, you know, slowly, but shortly when I
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got into the podcast world, it gave me something to do because
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if I think I didn't have the podcast world, I probably would
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have been going after people. I say he's shooting a stab and
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I'm trying to get, you know, things that people that were
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talking about me miles away, right, that I know were about
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nothing and never did nothing in their lives.
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So I think the podcast stuff kind of calmed me down and made
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me who I am now, you know, I'm getting into this entertainment
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world, which I really love, you know what I mean?
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It's so it kind of changed me in a way.
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I think I'd be serving a real sentence again if it wasn't for
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the podcast. Yeah, you have something to do
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too. The book.
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No, hit in the book. And The thing is like your
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personality. You have the personality for
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somebody in entertainment world, like a lot of people, people
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will see you on one of these other platforms or something
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like that. Yeah, and they'll see you like
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going off on somebody or going something like that.
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But in real life, you're not like going beefing with people
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like all the time in real like I'm trying to convey to people
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like off camera, like when you're just talking people and
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you would never know that you're ever even a mob guy unless
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they're you know, I. Don't look the pot like you met
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my friend Anthony. He looks the pot.
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Yeah, he looks the pot. If you see me, he looks like
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he's running a movie. I don't look the pot, right, You
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know what I'm saying? I don't.
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I didn't. I didn't have that look, you
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know what I'm saying? I was tall, skinny growing up.
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I was a very skinny guy. Yeah, you know what I mean?
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I got bigger when I got older, so I never looked the pot that I
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was. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Like I said, you know, I'm happy
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the way I am now. Yeah.
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I mean, it's a much more relaxing life.
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I mean, you know, and what I wanted to say also we got to a
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different subject is about the TV show.
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A lot of people do believe it that it's going to happen.
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But a lot of people, what they don't believe is the level that
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we're trying to make it. I think they think it's just
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going to be like always going to film a pilot and who knows if
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it's going to get picked up because that's what happens a
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lot, you know what I'm trying to say.
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So like, if we wanted to do it, Erin, listen, if we wanted to do
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it rinky dinky, we could do it tomorrow.
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We could do it tomorrow, get a little regular show.
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But the level that we're trying to do it on is a Sopranos level,
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is a ghost level, is something like that level.
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We're working with huge names, huge people, and it's going to
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be something really epic, and not because of who I was.
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It's because nobody has what I have.
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Who the else can give you a modern day story of the most
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glorified mafia neighborhood in the country, Howard Beach,
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Queens. At the end of the day, the most
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glorified known organized crime neighborhood in the country, in
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the country is Howard Beach, Queens.
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That's a known thing. So at the end of the day, nobody
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has what I have for my generation and that's why I'm
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here today. That's why I'm still the most
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viewed X mob guy in the world. Let's go there.
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Mike Francis and Sammy's the only one that gets more views
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than me. Do you know that?
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Look at the competition I'm going up against, by the way.
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So if you take them out the equation, who's the top dog?
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Me. I go on a podcast and talk about
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taking AI, get 50,000 views. You know, I'm saying think about
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it. I know it gets people mad.
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Guys try so hard to get a view. It's so hard.
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You get guys go on, they can't get a view.
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I could go on and just throw Lolly Lolly Law and get more
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views than you tried for a year and just me joking around.
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So it's gonna irk people, you know, I'm saying that comes to
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talking and that's where it all comes in.
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But at the end of the day, you got to stand.
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I have the IT factor like I was told by actors, I was told by
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you by a lot of people, actor, stuntman, guys that work with
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live people don't even know the things that you are a part of.
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You know what I'm saying? So it's it's the fact that my
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friend Dominic from Tulsa Kings, who who's a really cool guy and
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I, I'm going to have him play Ronnie Jean.
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I'm going to say that open to the counter.
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He's going to play Ronnie. Right.
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And I, I, I want to also tell people something as well in the
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entertainment industry, right? When you have a project, you
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take it to a major studio. These major studios have other
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$100 million projects they're already have, they're already
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working on, you know what I mean?
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So even though Gene story is unique and awesome, they, he's
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still, he's competing with Batman, Superman and like these
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other things, you know what I mean?
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But but the thing that at the end of the day, if they weren't
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interested in it, the show wouldn't be in the.
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I wish you were allowed to say. I wish you were allowed to say
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the person that literally read my book.
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Yeah, read my book. Watch our podcast together, all
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three of them, which this guy like when it does come out and
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eventually we could say it and then you all shut the up this
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and can't lie about this. Obviously you can't even get in
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touch with this guy. He wouldn't even to get him to
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answer an e-mail just to get a meeting.
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How long it take for you to get a Zoomer?
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3 three weeks, 3 weeks just to get in front of him for 40
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minutes. And The thing is, he wouldn't
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even take a meeting if he if he if he didn't think that there
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was any money in the story and the script that we have, he's
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not going to even take him, right?
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He's not going to waste his time, right?
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You know what I mean? An hour and a half to this guy
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is a lot of money. Created some of the biggest
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shows and TV part of huge movies.
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Whatever the case may be, like I said, if it does crack off with
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this person, I We will get whatever we want for our show.
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It'll be huge and it'll be a huge thing.
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Like I said, if me and him wanted to do it tomorrow or
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other people, we can. But we're trying to focus on the
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big dog and he wants to be a part of it his self, his self.
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He reached out to us basically. So I wish we could say his name,
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but eventually we were able to. But then it'll just be on TV, on
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TMZ that we just signed a huge deal.
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So there you. Go.
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It's a long process, but it's legit.
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You can take your time and do it the right way, or you can throw
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some together and do it the wrong way.
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Right. And if you guys actually anybody
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that's read, read the book or watched any of his podcast, you
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know all the action, all the crazy this dude did right now,
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imagine that being re enacted on I'm telling.
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It's only 10% of it in my book, right.
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And remember, 110 pages taken out of my book.
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Yeah. So you only get in about 20% of
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the book, right. It took out so much stuff out of
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because this lady mangled the book on me and lo and you know,
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realized it, but there was 120 page, 10 pages missing.
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So and that's still only 20% of my life.
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So the show, like I said, when we do do it, we actually be a
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consultant on the show. It's going to be so much
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involved and there's so much in my neighborhood that I want to
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implement into this show about other crews and other people
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that you can just keep going with it and the people see the
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vision. It's just a matter of the person
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that we're dealing with might be making a Marvel movie or
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something crazy. I'm saying, just like, does he
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have time? Yeah, we gotta hope he does.
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Right, for sure. If not, there's been plenty of
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buzz about this, this show. Trust me, like a lot of
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interested people, a lot of big names, It's, it's legit.
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I'm just saying it's normally I don't talk about my work in the
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entertainment industry of my podcast, but I, I wanted to put
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that out there for anybody that was asking the questions.
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I, I saw some of the interviews people, so many clips of, you
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know, Matthew Cox asking you questions, all these other
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people. And I just wanted to like, jump
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into the camera and be like, help you out because it's like,
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you don't really know, you know what I'm saying?
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Like the things that they're asking you, it's hard.
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It's hard to answer. Some of them.
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You're like, what status are you in?
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I don't know, like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like it's like, I just want to clear that up.
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You, you know what I'm saying. Is that fair to say?
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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I think that was good that we finally did this because
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remember, for a lot, for a long time, let's say you wouldn't let
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me talk about nothing. Yeah, 1.
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Of them this. Is true.
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You had me muscles for a while. I wasn't allowed to say things.
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I wanted to say certain things. So now the muscles kind of off a
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little bit. We could talk a little bit.
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Yes, I did tell him all that he had.
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Like we had an agreement with that.
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And mainly just because it's the process of Hollywood, you know
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what I'm saying? And plus, like, I just knew that
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like when you did these interviews with these other
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names, I knew that was going to come up.
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You know, I wasn't sure how comfortable you were talking
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with some. Of the I don't want to say
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anything wrong. Yeah.
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No, because let's say if I slipped and brought up the big
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guy's name, it could have ruined everything.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And that's why.
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And plus, if we say it beforehand, these haters will
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reach out. Right.
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And that's why it's good that we never did.
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So now we could just wait and then boom, boom.
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Also, let's bring up, you know, while you're down here.
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We did a short film together, Me, him and a few other people.
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Still doing it. Still doing it, you know,
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filming it every day. It's a.
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Lot. Harder than I thought it was,
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you know, but. How good is it?
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It's good. It looks great, The scenes look
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cool. You know what I mean?
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Gangsters for me and the people that have got involved in it,
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like you said, you didn't know what was going to be.
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You thought it was going to be horrible first, right?
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And then when Von Cameron, you see us acting the way we were
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and scenarios, it's like, Oh, yeah.
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No, absolutely. Let me let me chime in on that.
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Gene. Gene was like, he hit me up.
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He's like this, by the way, this short film.
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This is nothing to do with the TV.
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Nothing to do with just practice.
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Yes, this is just, this is a little short film that we're
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doing mainly and yes, people are gonna have to pay for this by
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the way, because it's a lot of time and a lot of money.
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It's super tiring, you know what I'm saying?
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So whenever we get done with this of a platform for people to
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go and purchase it or whatever. But The thing is, these are all
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real guys that are in this. They're not no longer in their
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life. But you, you can articulate it
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better. Like they right?
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They, they, they get the life. So right, my friend explain them
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why so, so I wanted my friend Anthony Jano.
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And Anthony Jano was a legit tough guy from my neighborhood.
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Like he's not just a guy where it's like, oh, he was around.
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Anthony Jano was the toughest kid in my neighborhood at one
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time. You, you, you had to use a
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baseball bat on him. He'll throw you over a car.
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You know what I'm saying? He was a guy that every wise guy
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wanted. And he like, I don't like to
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take orders. And even though he'd be perfect
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for that life, he was around it, but he respected it.
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But he just didn't want to be that guy in it where he got to
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follow orders and do that, you know?
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So he did, always did his own thing, but everybody scared shit
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of him, you know what I'm saying?
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So I put him in it. How good was he on camera?
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Unbelievable. Let me tell you something.
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I told him this stuff too. And then here's the thing about
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me too. You guys don't know because I
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don't usually talk like this like candidly on my pod because
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I teach about the guests. But I'm just doing this because
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of the scenario I went, yeah, Anthony does not get more
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authentic than him. And same with that even Mike
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was. Good.
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Mike was great. Mike, my buddy from New York.
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Yeah, like. Like, like this.
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When he told me about this, Gene was just like, yeah, we should
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get together, do a little gangster short film or something
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like that. I'll bring in my buddies.
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I'm thinking like, what are we doing?
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Like these kids are not going to look good.
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It's going to be like over exactly.
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Acting, I know. But when people see but but then
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when I saw them like delivering the lines naturally and you're
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help directing it. When I tell you just give me a
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scenario, I'll give them a scenario and how it would really
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play out. I don't want to script.
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I said this, I don't. He wanted to write a whole
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script 1st and no, let's do it just us talking freely and just
16:43
see how it likes. He didn't like it.
16:44
He's like, this is going to suck.
16:45
That's going to be horrible. And it turned out what it looks
16:48
good. No, for sure, correct.
16:51
Not not talking freely, but improving really.
16:54
Yes, but but you're improving that.
16:56
Improv you gave us the scenarios what you want and then we're
16:59
going to do it how it really play out, right when we did the
17:00
guy owing US money, I showed you how, you know, come in, blah,
17:04
blah, blah, how I'm going to be at and he says, oh, all right,
17:06
wow. And it's just naturally
17:08
breakdown step by step. It's not it's just how it goes
17:11
in their life. And I'm saying, so an actor
17:13
can't do what I could do with that scene because I did that
17:16
for real. I was at that table going with
17:18
because what's the problem? You know what I'm saying?
17:20
So there's no acting. It's just us.
17:22
So Anthony General brings that to the table.
17:25
My friend Mike, he was a dude in New York.
17:27
Real great dude. I told you he'd be great on
17:29
camera. So the dudes that we used, it's
17:31
going to be perfect. And it's a short film and he's
17:33
definitely going to like it. Oh.
17:35
Let me tell you guys something. I I also brought in some
17:37
professional stunt guys, but it's like it's, it's a short
17:40
film. And no, Matthew Cox says, we're
17:42
not putting this in Sundance, you know what I'm saying?
17:45
But like, we're doing something. Gene wanted to do something for
17:49
the fans and stuff like that to really kind of show what it was
17:53
like and how it really is. You know what I'm saying?
17:55
You want to bring bring to life scenarios for a short film and
17:58
make them authentic. This doesn't correlate.
18:00
I think people want to see Gene with a gun again.
18:02
I'm joking. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
18:08
But but just so everyone, I want to clear this up too.
18:10
This has nothing to do with the TV series.
18:12
No, this is just something. Practice, yes, for pony.
18:15
I want this practice for Pony as well and do a film.
18:17
Let's get into that too. Yeah, we.
18:20
I wanted to practice for Pony because he's the director on
18:22
Pony with another guy and we're actually waiting to do that.
18:25
We're still seeing what's going on and my scene supposed to be
18:29
up next you know whatever. But I wanted to see.
18:31
I did, I did like hundreds of podcasts.
18:34
Now my views is up in over 100 million, which I know sounds
18:37
crazy, but if you really look at it, if you put my name into the
18:40
thing, it's really that hot. You know, all my podcasts and
18:43
views and clips, it's huge right now.
18:45
So I I said, all right, I'm good with the podcast world, but how
18:48
am I actually doing a film? This is what I wanted to do this
18:51
for, See how I could go on the camera, see when it's walking
18:53
with me, not to look at it. There's a lot to learn.
18:56
I had the giggles a little bit, you know, I'm sorry, let me do
18:58
it again, you know, so camera angles, you know, I was crying,
19:01
laughing when you're under us getting a pillow.
19:03
I'm trying not to laugh or laying on the table.
19:05
So things that I want to do still shooting because, yes,
19:08
shooting both sides, the angles, you know, the monologue.
19:11
The monologue was so hard, but I did it and it was like, took me
19:14
a while, but it was, it was hard.
19:16
Yeah, the monologue was hard to do that and spit it out and
19:18
everything. But I.
19:20
And let me just have that. The monologue, There's a
19:24
monologue. I don't give any details away,
19:26
but when Gene asked asked Devone to get down with this doing the
19:30
short film, I was like, absolutely.
19:33
But for me, the one of the most powerful scenes in movie history
19:36
is the opening monologue of Audi 96.
19:39
So I wanted Gene to not the not the same thing, but I wanted him
19:42
just to do a monologue. And this just to give like an
19:45
accurate portrayal of of, of just talking about the life in
19:49
his own way. Is that you know what I'm
19:51
saying? And I think it's and it was hard
19:53
for sure. You're hard.
19:54
Yeah, I didn't do it. We did it a bunch of times.
19:56
Yeah. It took hours.
19:58
But you know how many times I walk up the stairs?
20:01
A lot. A lot, A lot, A lot.
20:03
Listen, you know what? I'm happy about it.
20:05
I was supposed to get into this industry a while ago.
20:07
I got set back. I was on federal probation.
20:10
I had an attorney named Douglas Anton.
20:11
I mean, this is all real stuff. And I was being shooted at a
20:14
time by the Gotti family, so I was using him for the lawsuit as
20:16
well. But federal probation is being
20:18
real. And my ex-girlfriend was like
20:20
trying to ruin my life. So I had actually had a synopsis
20:24
that I wrote in jail, a little synopsis that my friend Frankie
20:27
wrote. But I told him what to write and
20:30
we got it in front of Dick Wolf. I can say this now, it got in
20:33
front of Dick Wolf. He actually liked it.
20:35
Right. He actually liked it, You know
20:37
what I'm saying? So people didn't know that I
20:39
wrote a synopsis. I didn't.
20:40
I'm not a good. My writing is very poor, but my
20:43
knowledge is good. Yes, my friend wrote it down and
20:46
I gave him the knowledge and I created.
20:47
I wanted 2 episodes on Law and Order, but I wanted to play The
20:50
Dirty cop. I wanted to be an organized
20:52
crime dirty cop and I wanted to play the guy.
20:54
And they and Douglas Santos said that's not going to be easy.
20:58
You could probably sell it to them, but I don't know if
20:59
they're going to want you in it, you know what I'm saying?
21:01
So he was already trying to negotiate that because he has a
21:04
client that's on Law and Order SVU.
21:06
And I created this whole scenario of a dirty cop.
21:08
I know how Law and Order works. It always, it always starts off
21:12
with something you're seeing, like you'll find a murder in a
21:14
nightclub, but it has nothing to do with the murder.
21:15
It always goes into something else.
21:17
And I took that and I created a story and went in front of him
21:20
and he liked it, but he said, yo, he kind of likes it.
21:22
So it was heartbreaking when I went back to jail and it set me
21:26
back for this fake domestic shit.
21:28
Then we're talking. Yeah.
21:29
So anybody out there, you weren't even beating on girls or
21:32
doing shit like can we just clear the air with that because.
21:35
Everyone knows that I got stabbed.
21:37
I got stabbed in the leg and I almost lost my leg over it.
21:40
My I almost lost my foot. The infection went down to the
21:42
foot and I, I took the weight because I didn't want her to get
21:45
a stabbing. That's what that situation was
21:48
about. I just want to put to bed all
21:49
these rumors, all that shit that's not true.
21:51
Like he's not. No, I was stabbed in my calf and
21:55
I I held it down for two days because I didn't want her to get
21:59
a stabbing case Fucking bad in Florida, whether or not so I was
22:03
like, and I end up getting locked up for this thing and for
22:06
the assault, for assault that never happened and they threw it
22:08
away. You know what I mean?
22:09
But it was something for people to run with.
22:11
And you also have to break it down.
22:13
And if people had any kind of brain in the law, I am a
22:16
predicate, persistent violent criminal.
22:18
I am a career criminal. I popped out to every charge
22:21
known to mankind. If I was convicted of any kind
22:24
of assault, I get 10 years. So if you think about it,
22:26
Florida is one of the most strictest states in America.
22:30
If it was Gene Borrello and I committed these crimes, would I
22:32
be sitting here in front of you today?
22:33
I have nothing to give them, nothing to help them with.
22:36
OK, If it was serious, I really beat this girl and hurt her so
22:39
bad. You should never see me.
22:41
I'd be serving prison time in a federal state prison doing 10
22:45
years easy, easy, not misdemeanors thrown away.
22:47
Oh, this is bull crap. You know what I mean so that's
22:50
if anyone had a brain and no, just because I cooperate against
22:53
the mafia flaw don't give a fuck what I did for them.
22:55
They were coming after me if it was something serious gone they
22:58
don't give you know what I mean? So for people that just talk to
23:01
you and don't understand, that's a very serious crime.
23:03
And if it was really what they made it to be, I would not be
23:06
here with you. You know what I'm saying?
23:07
And that's really simple. As that and The thing is what
23:10
they made it to be. These are people on the Internet
23:12
that might not necessarily be a fan of yours that want to just
23:15
perpetuate. Yeah, and they want to.
23:17
Clear that up. But what they don't understand
23:18
is that all these haters actually help me because like
23:22
I'm 5050 I have some people that love me.
23:24
I get you see my fan mail it don't stop my DMS is like tons
23:27
of DMS. I get tons of fan mail. People love me all over the
23:29
world. But the hate mail also helps me.
23:32
But I'm being haters because they kept me going so much,
23:35
relevant so much and. You understand that too.
23:38
Now I go. At first I wanted to fight
23:40
everybody, right? I was literally trying to get
23:42
addresses. Every day.
23:42
I'm like, I'm gonna crack this guy.
23:44
Like literally, I swear. Now I'm just over it.
23:47
Yeah, but I wanted to also put this out there for people.
23:50
Gene's not an idiot, you know what I'm saying?
23:52
He knows how to play the game. Like, I'm not going to give you
23:54
all your secrets, but you know how to play the game, you know
23:56
what I'm saying? Like he knows like people from
23:59
people that don't like him, right?
24:00
Yeah. You're.
24:01
He knows how I got it, right? I.
24:02
Got to say this, as much as I don't like this guy, well, I
24:04
always liked him, but he's in my in my old life.
24:07
So when I killed my crew, there was the main guys.
24:10
It was Ronnie, me, Pudgy, Ricky Kessler, Mike Padavona and Mike
24:15
Palacio that was our main guy. And Bobby G Alonzo, that was our
24:18
main crew that we all hung out together and there was a lot of
24:21
other guys, but the main guys was us and only one guy.
24:25
And then one time he's sitting and talking to me and he goes,
24:27
you know, you don't have to be fooled, Pudgy.
24:31
I forget this thing down there. And I like Podgy.
24:32
We we end up, you know, he wasn't a tough guy.
24:34
But yeah, I do. I do because he wasn't a tough
24:38
guy. But like, I was mad at him for
24:39
another reason. It's something he said.
24:41
And because he always just said, oh, Gene's the only one.
24:42
I'll take 30 years. He was like one of those guys.
24:44
But at the end of the day, he said something like, so I was
24:46
going after him a little bit, but he's really, he was a cool
24:48
guy, but he's the only one that ever told me.
24:51
He goes, you know, you don't have me fooled.
24:52
He goes, I know you play dumb. He goes.
24:55
But I know you're the one of the smartest guys in this room.
24:57
He goes, you could hit me with all that.
24:58
I don't know how to read. I don't know how to write.
25:00
He goes, I know your game. And I was looked at him.
25:03
I started laughing. I said, bro, it's what it is.
25:05
He goes, you're not dumb at all. He goes, you know what you're
25:08
doing at all times. And I I know that.
25:10
And he's the only one that ever really caught me.
25:12
And that was the thing that I always did.
25:13
I always like people think I was dumb.
25:15
I was like, people think I don't know what's going on.
25:17
I'll ask you a question. What's that mean?
25:18
I know what it means. Yeah.
25:20
You know, now the couch have the bag.
25:21
OK. And I didn't mean to.
25:22
Do that. That's true.
25:24
I get tired of the comments. I certainly used to like I was
25:27
so trained by Ronnie and Vinnie because they were so good at
25:30
mine warfare. I would do it.
25:32
I do it in this world now today where I'll ask you a question
25:35
three times in one month and see if he answered me right the same
25:37
time every time. I don't know if we should or
25:39
not. There's so many things that I
25:40
took from my gangs life to the real world that works.
25:43
So my book smarts was very low, but my like 7000, right?
25:47
You can never get me, scam me, run game on me.
25:50
You know what I mean? So it's like I took that stuff
25:52
and only one guy ever really caught me.
25:53
No apology. He's like, you don't have any
25:55
fool, bro. You're not a dummy.
25:56
You're very smart. And I use that to this day in
25:58
this world where I knew controversy was going to make me
26:01
big in this game, right? The first person, you know who I
26:03
went after when I came in the podcast, bro, who's the first
26:05
guy I went after? Think about it was the first guy
26:08
started Michael Franz, Michael Francis and what happened?
26:11
It gave me views every time I go on a podcast in that point,
26:14
70,080 thousand, what was going to say about him?
26:16
I knew what I was doing, you know what I'm saying?
26:18
I became, you know, I became the Howard Stern of the mob genre to
26:22
say anything, to do anything. People love that.
26:25
Basically. I love the way this, the things
26:27
he says about people not oh, hey, I want to be part of the
26:29
politics. I want to I want to be a
26:31
professional businessman. I'm like, bro, come on.
26:33
Like, I hate the Paul a shout out then on show God.
26:38
Hey, yeah, you know, I want to save the kids.
26:40
They don't want to hear that be real with you.
26:42
They don't wanna hear it. They wanna hear gangster.
26:46
You can jerk off this that. And that's what kept me above
26:48
all the other ones. You know, I'm saying that's what
26:50
keeps me right now you have about 30 mile guys out there
26:54
between all and then I'll get 10 views no more.
26:57
I get I get told you I'm going into it tomorrow.
26:58
Talk about taking. I'll get more views in all them
27:00
combined except for Mike Franchise and Sammy Guvano.
27:03
Yeah. But it's way more entertaining
27:05
than by far. Yeah, but it's not.
27:06
I hate on that. No, but it don't matter.
27:08
Sammy Guvano is like Jesus Christ in this game, you know,
27:11
he was a part of the biggest things in mob in my history.
27:15
You know, people are just going to sit there and go, Oh yeah,
27:17
you know what I'm saying? I don't have that, but I have
27:19
the charisma, you know, the craziness, the style.
27:21
You know, I dress like the younger kids.
27:23
I drive McLaren. If I break your call.
27:26
You know, I'm living show that show you a little bit of that,
27:29
you know, they hate that, you know, So like I said, I I
27:33
blended in with all the guys I love rap music.
27:35
I love, you know my cold fashion.
27:37
Movies. Fashion sports, you know, I'm a
27:39
big sports guy and I I think that's just keeping me so
27:42
relevant now. But like I said, I'm glad we got
27:44
to clear up ATV show because Iron Man's like, oh, what's
27:46
going on? What's going on?
27:47
It's like it's going to happen, but it's going to be at a scale
27:50
that we want it, which is going to be huge.
27:52
Which takes time, right? You know what I mean?
27:54
You're talking millions of dollars.
27:55
People don't understand like these executives in Hollywood, a
27:59
lot of them are so busy and so high profile they don't have an
28:03
hour out of their day to entertain anybody, to talk to
28:06
anybody. So if for them to take their
28:08
time out, let alone watch 3 podcasts that we did together
28:12
and read this whole book in 14 days and then reach out and say
28:16
let me see a script, then read the script, then it's listen.
28:21
They're not going to waste their time like time is money.
28:24
And you got to understand something like we created a
28:26
genre where people are making money off us now.
28:28
Like the mob genre was created by me and John Elike.
28:30
Mike Francis is the first guy that came out talking on
28:32
interviews. Yeah, but me and John Elike
28:34
started the mob podcast. Like that's a known fact.
28:36
Like Mike Francis even said it. Like you started the mafia
28:39
podcast. We all did this, Sammy.
28:41
Everybody filed suit on us. Yeah, I had Sammy Guevano coming
28:44
on before he did any interview. They.
28:46
Didn't like they probably didn't even know what a podcast.
28:48
Was Everybody likes me that meets to me.
28:51
I swear to God, every ex mob guy I talk to Gene, I'll come off
28:53
for you Gene I'll come off for you Sammy Cavano's like Gene,
28:56
I'll come off for you. Then him and ally started going
28:58
the war. I had him coming on.
29:00
I got violated. I'm like Sammy, please he didn't
29:02
do an interview yet on one show. I says please come on on his
29:05
first well hot show right now. It'll be awesome.
29:07
You know that me and Johnny just did a show talking about him.
29:10
That 700,000 views really. Me and a Life did a show just
29:14
I'll show it to you. On the Johnny Jean show.
29:16
We did a show just talking about the Paul Castle and him.
29:19
We got 700,000 views on that. Really.
29:22
Yeah, that's a lot of views, bro, You know what I'm saying?
29:24
So I told him, just come on, man, he was coming on.
29:27
And then I got violated, went into jail.
29:30
They did all these stipulations about the show, and then him and
29:32
Johnny started fighting and then never did the show together.
29:35
And then when I came out, this guy had a show, that guy had a
29:37
show, this guy had a show. That's and, you know, and now
29:40
all of a sudden all these guys got podcasts because of us.
29:43
They're still going to this day. Now they just fight with each
29:45
other, right? Like, I'm going to get a little
29:46
secret. Lee Cole is a good friend of
29:48
mine. I'm not saying that we were.
29:50
We didn't fight at all, but a lot of it was WWE.
29:53
Yeah. Me and Henry used to left behind
29:55
the scenes hysterically and be like, all right, we got to just
29:57
pretend we don't like each other, but we really don't I.
30:00
Don't know somebody like who is that guy?
30:02
He's just a pilot. I don't know.
30:04
He's like. You know, you notice to me, like
30:06
certain people, like I, I'm so good at this industry.
30:10
I don't know if you got it or not, and I don't know if you're
30:12
going to make it. How do you know?
30:13
So I knew he's somewhat funny. Yes, he is.
30:17
He said something that I still laugh about to this day.
30:20
He goes, Johnny, a light, He goes.
30:22
You shot him in the head into him off a bridge he goes.
30:24
He did it all for the kids. We were messing around, that guy
30:29
said. He was asking for your address
30:31
this year. I love what he said, that he
30:32
goes, oh, Johnny, you shot him in the head and do him off the
30:34
grid. You did it all for the kids.
30:35
And I still laugh about that to this day.
30:37
I said, Johnny, that's funny. He goes, it is.
30:39
It is, You know, so we used to get a kick out of it.
30:41
And then we knew the ones that weren't going nowhere, you know
30:43
what I'm saying? And a lot of the ones, there's
30:45
so many stragglers. But like, I knew he would go
30:47
somewhere and did it that Jeff could do.
30:48
I knew he goes somewhere. He's good.
30:50
He's a good crime reporter. He actually does his work.
30:52
He does his homework. They're not podcasts.
30:54
They're not podcasts. He's an investigator almost.
30:56
He really knows and you know, I had many fights with him, but we
31:00
actually are friends as. Well, yeah.
31:01
Can we talk about like there was that?
31:02
One live. Well, I get mad at him because I
31:05
always have his back. Yeah, you know, I'm saying and I
31:08
tell him, Joey Molino, I'm not your friends.
31:09
And I didn't like that. He was kind of like sticking up
31:11
for him. So I got nasty.
31:13
But afterwards, we were on the phone.
31:14
We worked it out. But me and him always do that.
31:17
And like, we're supposed to hang out this week, you know what I'm
31:18
saying? So me and him are genuinely
31:20
friends. But a lot of the podcast is like
31:22
I'll watch them and I'll say I'll come on your show.
31:25
I think you're gonna make it Yeah, cuz they I get DMS a guy
31:28
just DM me yesterday. Oh hey, you want to call my
31:30
show? I need 30 minutes.
31:31
That's $1000 bro. Who are you to me?
31:34
Who I need your show for what you gonna do?
31:36
What do you do for me right, I'm doing you the favor.
31:39
No, for sure. You know what I'm saying?
31:40
So it's like, I know I sound like a, but I'm at that point
31:43
it's. True, though.
31:44
Yeah. It's not being.
31:45
It's true. You put in the time.
31:47
Yeah. And The thing is, you were the
31:48
first to develop this, this true crime genre.
31:51
Nobody else knew what you were young enough to know to.
31:55
Think about it. That goes back to.
31:56
Let me tell you guys and let me put it to you like this and and
31:58
I want everyone to listen to this as much as Joey Molino.
32:01
Me and him don't like each other.
32:03
He did an interview. He'll always manage to what
32:05
bring my name up because he knows when he says something
32:08
about me like I say something about him.
32:09
The views come in. He goes he said the thing in
32:12
Tampa and he goes all I I hope everybody you know the
32:15
hurricane. I hope he's all safe except for
32:17
Gene Barrella. I hope he gets killed in the
32:19
arcade. That was his view.
32:21
What he won't say about Johnny Domino come out now the X Mob
32:23
guys because they're not going to get no views.
32:25
The conflict between me and him when I started beef with him, I
32:29
got messages from everybody. Call my show, call my show, call
32:32
my show. I'm like I'm going to go on the
32:34
one I want to, you know what I'm saying?
32:35
I'm going to address it. I went on Jeff the do show and
32:37
did it first and addressed it. You know what I'm saying?
32:40
And I picked the show. I want to go on to address it
32:42
because I know when me and Jeff the do one on that live, we
32:45
broke a record. We had 1500 people in the live
32:48
Mike Francis don't even get that Siri Guevara don't even get
32:51
that. We had 1500 people in a life,
32:53
bro Yeah, that's a lot just waiting to see what I was going
32:56
to say about this guy. So I knew what I was doing with
32:58
this game. You know what I'm saying and
33:00
like I said now guys reach out to me like I love Vlad Vlad's a
33:03
cool guy and Vlad's like Gene, I'll give you 2500 to come on
33:06
show. I'm like, no, don't worry about
33:07
it, Just give me that plane flight and this much because at
33:09
the time I was making for June and July, I was making huge
33:12
money. So I didn't give a fuck.
33:14
I'm like, Nah, I'm just gonna come on, do a little tour in
33:15
California, just pay for my flight though.
33:17
And that's, and that's what he did.
33:18
And I wanted to come on his show after speaking.
33:20
Wait, Jeff Leduc's texting me right now.
33:22
I see. That's what I'm saying.
33:23
We're always talking. You know what I'm saying?
33:25
Yeah, he's going off on. Oh, look, Joey Molino's talking
33:28
about me again. Wow.
33:29
We were just talking about it. You see guys proofing the
33:31
pudding. He's starting around him.
33:34
He do you. Really, do you really have like?
33:36
Honestly though, like do you really have a like you don't
33:39
really dislike? Him.
33:40
No. I I just.
33:41
No, I don't. No.
33:43
Let me be honest. You snuff.
33:44
I will slap. Yeah, but do you really, really
33:46
hate them? Though No, no, I will slap Snuff
33:48
because he, I don't like him. Died.
33:49
I was never a gangster. Yeah, Joey has a right to call
33:52
me a rat. This that.
33:53
That's fine. Joe.
33:53
You he has he has credentials. Yeah.
33:55
He's got shooting. He's got everything.
33:57
He's he's really did it. But at the end of the day, he's
34:00
65 years old. I would never hit him.
34:01
He's too old anyway. Yeah, Snuff is not a gang.
34:03
He's trying to talk to him. I'll Rick Jane shit out of him.
34:06
I'll clap. I'll slap him for real.
34:09
And he knows that he could talk all the shit he wants.
34:11
Yeah, anyone really knows me. I'm on site, bro.
34:14
Yeah, I don't talk. I'll just Rock You when I see
34:16
you. And then that's it.
34:17
Joey Molina. I hit him.
34:18
He's like 65, bro. Yeah, that's corny.
34:20
I would never do that. You know?
34:21
I would never hit him. I'll go off on him.
34:22
A clown, but like Snuff, I'll rock.
34:27
I don't I'm not familiar with who that guy is other than you
34:29
mentioned. I don't know who Jeff Nadu is
34:31
other other than seeing clip with you.
34:32
It's. Got a big platform?
34:33
But but like the snuff guy, Like what is his?
34:37
He just wants to be Joey Millinos coattail and Joey has
34:40
all the gangster stories need to see like.
34:43
Why is he like getting involved? He's a junkie.
34:45
But why is he like bashing you though?
34:47
Because it's views, but I don't mind if Joey does.
34:49
I'll go back before. Because he was really about that
34:52
though, so it's more of like a respect there.
34:53
Absolutely. I have no problem with me going
34:56
Joey going at it, Who the fuck are you stuff you are.
34:58
He sells cars. You have to do a thing.
35:02
Yeah. The things I did in one month
35:04
you never did in your whole life.
35:05
Alright, you know, saying so it's more about like you got the
35:07
respect for joy. He was a gang.
35:10
Yeah, 100%. But it's more so this other guy
35:12
who has nothing to do with it. OK, nothing to do it.
35:15
You like, I'll give you a wedgie.
35:16
You chase you down the street. You know what I'm saying?
35:18
You won't do nothing. You know what I'm saying?
35:19
It's like what? You know, all my friends in
35:21
Florida want to beat them up. Like I have a lot of you met
35:23
Mike and all these guys, they UFC fighters, they're not just
35:25
like I'm slapping this kid when I see him.
35:27
But if I have friends that are loyal to me out here, like when
35:29
I see him, I'm rocking him. He doesn't understand that.
35:31
Yeah, these guys think it's like a joke.
35:33
People love me out here in Tampa, like love me, right?
35:36
You know? And they know I'm the real deal.
35:37
I've been in multiple. It's I'm not allowed.
35:39
I've been in multiple fish fights down here, right?
35:41
I made a name for myself in Tampa.
35:42
I fought a whole security team, bro, right?
35:44
A whole team. And let's just clear that up
35:46
real quick. When you were involved in these
35:48
incidences, yeah, it's not like Gene's not the type of guy that
35:51
was going and picking fights. Around I'm always defending
35:53
somebody. It's either, it's either it's
35:55
self-defense or like, you know, like a, a female got pushed down
35:59
at one nightclub. That's that that, by the way,
36:00
that's what happened with this the yeah, security guard.
36:03
I got benched old. Downtown.
36:04
But let's just clear a girl got pushed down that Gene.
36:08
Gene was with his crew by security and then they got
36:12
involved. No, by a random guy.
36:14
I knocked him out and then the security tried to get involved
36:16
and we end up fighting the bounces, right.
36:18
And then I became cool with all the bounces.
36:19
They loved me. They're like, yo, I watched you
36:21
on clocks. It was the funniest shit.
36:25
One of the bounces sees you not to this day.
36:26
And he's like, you can watch you on No jumping, bro.
36:28
I was like, that's awesome. Me and you fish for it, right?
36:31
Yeah. So, you know, he's had his
36:33
security now somewhere else and he loves me.
36:35
You know, you know, everyone knows me in Tampa.
36:36
Like, you know, I'm, I'm a friendliest dude.
36:38
I walk around, not that tough guy shit, but no one's abusing
36:41
me and my friends. I take that it, I take it what I
36:43
used to do in New York to over here, except I don't use guns
36:45
and knives, but like if you try to play me, I'm punching you in
36:47
your face. Like and I got locked up for
36:49
that. And then, you know, they threw
36:50
the case away because like he started it, right.
36:52
But like I got banned from all downtown in Tampa.
36:54
I was banned from every place. And then now it's all lifted.
36:57
I'm right back because I was new to this.
36:59
I wasn't used to people saying things and then getting away
37:02
with it. I'm used to and then I'd say we
37:04
take it from there. And I mean, so now I've learned
37:06
Tampa, everyone loves me. I'm friends with everybody.
37:09
And you know, it's cool down here, but they don't understand
37:12
these guys, how much loyalty I got down here.
37:14
Like you come down here running your mouth about me, my boys
37:17
will punch you in the face. I think I would all legit tough
37:19
guys down here. They're not patrol makers, but
37:21
like they're fighters, right? Like they'll give you a wedgie,
37:23
but snuff, like give you a wedgie and send you down the
37:26
street, right? You know what I'm saying?
37:27
I just want to clarify that for people because that was another
37:29
thing people were wondering like, oh, jeans, go on and be a
37:32
bit. Look, this guy, I just let me
37:34
speak for you for a second. I've gotten to know you pretty
37:36
well, right? Not one time do him and I ever
37:38
talk about his old mom, except you're on the pockets or
37:41
anything like he's a normal guy, like you know what I'm saying?
37:44
You never know that he was in the mob or even anything
37:46
affiliate with that unless he told you about it.
37:48
You know what I'm saying? Another thing is genius, like
37:51
super chill, like people. I like a lot of people that see
37:54
clips of you on the Internet. They think can run around the
37:57
chainsaw look looking for altercations, yet he's not like
38:00
that. You know what I mean?
38:01
Like he's not going looking for problems or anything like that,
38:04
but at the end of the day, just like any real man out there,
38:07
somebody comes to start shit with you or somebody you're
38:10
with, you have the right to defend yourself and natural
38:13
comes out while praying out. I'm gonna tell you right now,
38:15
the College of Terry, she was the head prosecutor, chief of
38:18
organized crime and and now she's like an acting attorney
38:21
general for the East District. And I would say and she always
38:24
said, like, you know, this kids like a problem.
38:27
You know me meaning like, I hope when you get out, you're not a
38:29
problem still, because they always didn't trust me, because
38:31
I didn't need the mafia to be a bad guy, right?
38:33
And I said no, I'll never be like that again.
38:34
But I'll never let no one abuse me, right, You know what I'm
38:36
saying? So at the end of the day, I
38:37
still stay with that. Like you're not going to abuse
38:39
me. I'll cool you all.
38:41
You see me? You got a problem.
38:41
All right, then we're going to fight.
38:42
That's it. You know, no one's getting
38:43
killed. No one's getting shot, stabbed.
38:45
It's a fist fight. You win, you lose, whatever, you
38:47
know. So that's how they always knew
38:49
how I was. You know what I mean?
38:50
So I didn't remember. I was in Ragazzam by myself.
38:52
There's no mom guys in Ragazzam. I was fucking tough from
38:54
Ragazzam. Which I gotta tell you, like
38:57
every time I see you and we like just interact or whatever.
39:00
Like we went out to to dinner earlier after we got done
39:03
filming. I just forget about the fact
39:05
that you're actually in these places for so many years, like
39:09
the worst. You never think that, you know
39:11
what I mean? Like, you know, and I and I
39:13
prospered in there. I was with the guys.
39:15
I was like had a phone on the table.
39:17
Like I wasn't just in there. I was like, you know, holding it
39:19
down for my people. And you know, people think
39:20
that's all fake stories. Like if a guy came in from the
39:23
house I was in, like, yo, Gene was the real deal.
39:25
And I cuz I own like this kid was really not a punk.
39:27
Like, you know, and you know, I take that with me not to this
39:30
day. Like, you know, you could say
39:31
what I am whatever I did, but nobody lived the way I, the way
39:34
I was, the walk, the shoes I was in.
39:36
So yeah, I did what I did. But, you know, you better be
39:39
that guy to come up to me and tell that, yeah, you know, I
39:41
could just walk with me. Go oh, Gene bro, so and so,
39:43
like, I'll crack you, you know, I'm saying, and then we'll take
39:45
it from there, right? You know, I mean, that's just
39:47
the way I'm going to be to the day I'm dead, you know?
39:48
I mean, and Johnny likes the same way.
39:51
Yeah. Oh, he's saying what if Johnny
39:52
was in his 40s? He's a knockout out.
39:54
Well, he's still. He's 67 years old without a
39:56
friend. You got a bullet him.
39:58
Still, if you knew Johnny when he was 40 years old, you better
40:01
use a baseball bat of him. He's not getting out of cold.
40:03
Like he's beating the shit out of you.
40:04
Like, you're not saying nothing to him, you know what I'm
40:06
saying? You know?
40:07
Like, literally, he's wrecking you.
40:08
So it's like, you know, people don't understand.
40:10
Like, yeah, we cooperated, but we were the guys you didn't want
40:12
to deal with in that life, right?
40:14
You know what I'm saying? Right.
40:15
Even my friend Anthony Russo, he's out here.
40:17
He's older. But Anthony's vicious.
40:18
Yeah. Not Hoody, the other one.
40:20
Hoody's a good dude. Not a punk either, but Russo,
40:22
Big Anthony, oh, he's a legit tough guy, bro.
40:24
He's 6 foot four, 260 lbs, right?
40:27
Knocking you out cold. You can say to them you're going
40:29
to be that guy coming up to us like we're cool and chill, but
40:32
don't forget about what we could do, right?
40:34
You know what I'm saying? So we take that witness to this
40:36
day. We try to be different and like
40:38
I said, I came out to Tampa. I love it out here and this is
40:41
where I'm going to stay. You know, I go to Miami to see
40:42
my girlfriend. I come back and he's got.
40:44
No, absolutely, absolutely. I want to bring something up as
40:49
well. Like how often do you have
40:52
people coming up to you honestly?
40:54
So like recognize you get like tell me the story about the
40:57
quarterback. Wait, all that, wait a while.
40:59
I'll tell you a better one. So I'm in Miami with my
41:02
girlfriend and she lives in a really nice building, right?
41:05
This is like a high end building.
41:07
So we're in the building and she thinks it's hysterical too.
41:10
She's like, how do you have fans?
41:13
She's. From Ohio.
41:14
She don't really know, you know, she's learned now all this stuff
41:16
I was a part of and you know, she's like a legit, you know,
41:18
great, good person, best girl I've ever had in my life.
41:21
And so we're in the elevator opens up and the guy just looks
41:26
at me. He's like a regular square, but
41:27
you can see he's a wealthy guy, regular dude.
41:29
He goes Gene Borrello. I say, what's up?
41:31
He goes, I watch a little kid, man, I love it.
41:32
I'm just like and she's like, what do you?
41:35
Say to that like people come up to you like is it, is it normal?
41:39
I'm like, hey, how you doing? You know, I get stopped more in
41:41
Miami than anywhere. I don't know why Tampa.
41:44
Like I guess everyone knows me already out here.
41:45
But like when I'm in Miami I get stopped a lot.
41:48
You know, on the street or in Club 11 they take two people.
41:51
Had my girlfriend take a picture with us, you know, I mean, you
41:53
know, I get stopped a lot over there.
41:54
Like how often? Like like give this like like.
41:57
Everyday I got, there's another time I was in Tampa.
42:00
I just came down here and this is a funny one.
42:02
I'm with my old business partner in my car wash, my friend, my
42:06
partner Mike, and I'm with Paulie.
42:08
Paulie's a very good friend of mine still to this day right
42:10
now. And we're in a bar in like the
42:11
middle of nowhere in like a country part of Tampa.
42:14
And there's this guy with like a biker jacket on, right?
42:17
And he's looking at his phone and then he keeps looking at me,
42:21
looking at his phone. He keeps looking at me.
42:22
I'm like, fuck. Oh, my God.
42:23
Maybe it's somebody from the nose, somebody I'm with back in
42:26
the day. So he comes over, he walks over
42:29
and he's like Jean Barrol. He's like, yo, just go.
42:31
I just read your book. I'm looking at you to see if
42:33
that was you. You look different.
42:34
Oh, my God. He's a dead out a legit biker.
42:37
Yeah, we not a Hell's Angel, but the other one Outlaw.
42:39
And he go, you know, he told me I respected.
42:40
He goes, Gina, I'll go take a picture.
42:42
He goes, but I'll get in trouble.
42:43
I was like, OK, I was like, no problem.
42:44
He's like, but I'm just wanting to know.
42:45
I'm a I'm a fan. He was he's like, I read your
42:47
book and I had to come over. I was like, all right, thank
42:49
you, man. That was it.
42:50
You know, that was pretty wild to me that he's an active
42:52
gangster still. Yeah.
42:53
He was like, I can't take a picture.
42:54
You all get in trouble. He's like, but I love it.
42:57
And I watch him and I read your book, you know what I'm saying?
42:58
So I I get stuff like that. And I think it's because of my
43:01
age, you know? I talk about the the going out
43:03
with the quarterback though and get him getting a little annoyed
43:06
by you. No, no, no, no.
43:07
He's, he's good. Like I became, I became, I
43:11
became friendly with Josh Freeman, the quarterback for the
43:13
Bucks. And like, you know what I'm
43:14
saying? Like, no, it's funny.
43:15
Like we go places and like, like, he's like a famous
43:19
cornerback team row. Who's that guy?
43:22
Yeah. Gee, can we get a photo of the
43:23
autograph that like, forget the fact of this famous autograph.
43:26
That's just, that's just the incredible.
43:28
Story You're like, he's a cool guy, man.
43:29
He's one anyone knows Josh Freeman and Tab.
43:32
But awesome dude. You know, I hung out a few
43:33
times. He's a cool guy and I go, I hang
43:36
out partying sometimes and you know, like I said, he's cool.
43:39
You'll meet, you know what I mean?
43:40
I'm still trying to run some routes and I'll be honest, I'm
43:42
close the run. I'm like, bro, I got to catch a
43:44
touchdown from you. So it has to be.
43:46
Speaking of football, you said last time we did an interview,
43:49
like I could throw a football 50 yards. 60 I actually 60 yeah,
43:52
I'm. 60 I saw you doing that on social media yeah, like on
43:55
Instagram, yeah. So that's not like people are
43:58
making. Purposely, because I had got
44:03
comments. There's no way you could throw a
44:04
football that no one realizes. My hands are huge.
44:06
I have a really strong arm. I was throwing a baseball.
44:10
Yeah. I was throwing baseball very
44:11
hard my whole life, very hard. And I get throwing football
44:14
really fast. So I go on there and I says I'm
44:16
40 years old, by the way. Right now I'm playing the
44:18
football store in the 60 yards. That was a 60 yard pass pretty
44:21
much that I threw to a kid that I met in Miami.
44:23
He's a fan. 18 year old kid loves.
44:25
He's like, yo, let's play catch. I got to cool with him.
44:28
I go to gym with him and he's like, yo, sort of football.
44:30
He plays high school football, going to college and all right,
44:32
I said, yeah, I got on. He goes, really?
44:34
Yeah, let's go pass this. He's like what?
44:36
I got a cabin. I'm throwing dots at him bombs
44:39
and I videoed 1 and it went like almost 60 yards.
44:41
You know, I'm saying, and you know, I like to do that to prove
44:43
people like I'm not. Yeah, yeah.