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Warning: this episode may depress the H*CK out of you · Scotty and Abby UNFILTERED

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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's best music is Magic, 94.9.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to another episode of Scotty and Abby Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the ones that have been
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  Speaker 2: is really cool to see because now that we're reading
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  Speaker 2: the comments, I see people commenting on the new episodes like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, you read my message.
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 3: So hop up in there. Keyboard Warriors Unite. Anyway, Abby,
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  Speaker 3: how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay. I'm okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think today was a weird one because of, one,
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  Speaker 2: we talked a lot about Dolly Parton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. The world feels different. Dolly's gone.
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  Speaker 2: I think what's weird, let's talk about just pop culture
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  Speaker 2: for a second. Seeing that yesterday became a bigger eye-opener
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  Speaker 2: that we're getting older.
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  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's always weird when people that have been around for
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  Speaker 4: a while that you resonate with pass away. Mm-hmm. Like
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  Speaker 4: when people your age pass away, like who just went
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  Speaker 4: hated and panettiere? Like I loved Ice Princess growing up.
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  Speaker 4: I watched the show Nashville. And I remember as a
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  Speaker 4: younger kid watching her be a teenager and the fact
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  Speaker 4: that she's gone because I think it's an overdose that
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  Speaker 4: caused her passing.
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  Speaker 1: It's just all these people passing away is just really weird.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds you of your mortality.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I think that's exactly the feeling that I was
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  Speaker 2: wrapping my head around yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing as, you know, obviously you're
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  Speaker 2: going to lose people in life, but to have icons,
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  Speaker 2: they feel invincible.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: You watch them and you're like, no, no, not that.
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  Speaker 3: And then it happens.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Superman dying. It's like Superman doesn't die, like
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  Speaker 1: Superman is Superman.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they always come back.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're waiting for the, because yesterday I was walking
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  Speaker 2: in the hallway and we just got done with like
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  Speaker 2: some meeting. We had somebody from way high up in
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  Speaker 2: the company just walking out of the meeting of that.
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  Speaker 3: And then our coworker, Drew Grabo, he's like, dude, did
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  Speaker 3: you hear? I was like, what?
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  Speaker 2: He's like.
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  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton passed.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way.
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  Speaker 3: Like, in my head, I was, that's a fake headline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way. And obviously somebody made a mistake. Like,
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  Speaker 3: she's going to be okay, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's the hard reality.
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  Speaker 4: I think it probably also doesn't feel real because we
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  Speaker 4: didn't know anything was wrong. Like, I think it was,
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about it today, how last week I
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  Speaker 4: was like, well, her husband passed away. And I always
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  Speaker 4: know when you have a husband or a wife and
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  Speaker 4: you've been married for decades and decades and it was
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  Speaker 4: a happy marriage, when that person goes, you typically pass. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: That I kind of made that prediction.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a little bit worried about Dolly because
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  Speaker 4: her husband passed away. But I didn't expect it to
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  Speaker 4: be this week, yesterday. And by the way, we're recording
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  Speaker 4: this on the 26th. So this would have been the 25th.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I was wrapping my head around that.
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  Speaker 2: And it is so true of what you say. Like
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  Speaker 2: and I think about that, like when you find your person.
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  Speaker 2: And you go through that much life. Like what you said,
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  Speaker 2: like they were together for over 60 years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they literally got together when she was
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  Speaker 4: maybe 20. I mean, I might be making up that number,
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  Speaker 4: but I remember thinking she was really young. And they
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  Speaker 4: got together, and she lived a very private life with him.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Because I didn't even realize, I'm like, Deli Porton's married?
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  Speaker 4: And then I looked more into her story. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: she's been married to this guy for like 60 years.
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  Speaker 4: But you just never see him. You never hear from him,
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  Speaker 4: which I think is incredibly impressive considering what an icon
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  Speaker 4: she is. And... Yeah, it's just very shocking. I think
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  Speaker 4: it would feel more real if we knew something was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, the fact that it just like hit us
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  Speaker 4: from just completely blindsided us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we knew there was like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a health thing because she had to like
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  Speaker 2: cancel an event. But it's like, yeah, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: what happens.
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  Speaker 3: You're 80.
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  Speaker 2: There's going to be a health thing that pops up.
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  Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden be like and this.
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  Speaker 1: And now she's gone.
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  Speaker 3: That's really hard.
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  Speaker 2: And so obviously there's a lot of us that are
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  Speaker 2: just wrapping our head around that feeling because there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of complex emotions that go with that. One of
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  Speaker 2: the things we talked about that I do truly love,
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  Speaker 2: and I was thinking about all the cool things that
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  Speaker 2: she did, is I love when a celebrity, and we
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  Speaker 2: talked about this earlier, like she was not controversial. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't ruffle feathers, but she left a legacy that was
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  Speaker 2: bigger than herself that will continue to just be a
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  Speaker 2: lesson for all of us if we truly want it
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  Speaker 2: to be. And it's honestly, nowadays, it's kind of rare
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  Speaker 2: to have somebody that big, that famous. have so many
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  Speaker 2: little lessons about how to go about this life that
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  Speaker 2: you don't need a lot of money to live by.
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  Speaker 1: I know. She was, I mean, not Jesus, but Jesus adjacent.
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  Speaker 3: She lived by the messages that she gave.
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  Speaker 2: And so as you're wrapping your head around it, we
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  Speaker 2: are too. And just sending a lot of love to
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  Speaker 2: the Dolly Parton fans, the family. I thought what was
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  Speaker 2: interesting is you saw the family that put out like
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  Speaker 2: obviously a message. And I I was like kind of
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  Speaker 2: taken back.
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  Speaker 1: Some random man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, who is this?
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  Speaker 1: Who is this man?
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that they obviously pre-recorded that on Dolly's permission.
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  Speaker 3: That has to be weird.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, seeing a video that you know is going to
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  Speaker 4: get released after you die is pretty wild. And also,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know he has relation to the family,
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  Speaker 4: but I remember seeing that and going, who is this man?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he on Dolly's Instagram?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm impressed that in 2026 they didn't get
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  Speaker 4: AI Dolly or get a.
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  Speaker 1: Video of her being like, hey guys, I'm gone.
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  Speaker 3: But here's my message.
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  Speaker 1: But here's my message.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't actually, I would have liked maybe, and that
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  Speaker 2: sounds weird, but like a recording of a message to her.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously we don't need any of that, but it
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  Speaker 2: is something to think about where it's like, here's my
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  Speaker 2: message that I would want.
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  Speaker 3: To send to my fans and to the world. As
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  Speaker 3: I leave. Like one parting word.
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  Speaker 1: It just doubles down the fact that she's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. The fact that we didn't even hear from her.
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  Speaker 4: It's just all of a sudden she's here. We knew
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  Speaker 4: something was maybe amiss last week and all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden she's gone. And we, the last thing we heard
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  Speaker 4: from her is, I don't know, maybe an interview somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just little interviews of how she would want her
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  Speaker 2: legacy to be and just kind of casual. And it
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  Speaker 2: just goes like, she obviously knew something was going on.
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  Speaker 2: There's battles that she was facing. And I just, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of love, a lot of love is again, another legend.
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  Speaker 3: Has passed on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things I got yesterday from my family
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  Speaker 2: in that same kind of conversation, which is morbid. I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at my cousin's Instagram and I saw there's
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  Speaker 2: a picture of my grandparents laying on the ground next
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  Speaker 2: to their tombstone.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: That's literally my same exact phrase.
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  Speaker 1: Like where they plan to be buried. Yes. Yeah, that's freaky.
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  Speaker 2: I thought so, too. But they found it so funny.
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  Speaker 2: So they have their tombstone already made. It has their
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  Speaker 2: names on it. It has obviously their birth date.
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  Speaker 3: There's no end date because they're still alive.
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  Speaker 2: But there they are laying in front of it as
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  Speaker 2: to where they will lay when they pass. And it
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  Speaker 2: freaked me out to the point where I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's too much morbidity.
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  Speaker 3: If that's the word.
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  Speaker 1: Morbidity?
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  Speaker 3: That's the one.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right either.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's whatever. Dark things happening. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm calling immediately. And I haven't talked to my grandparents
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  Speaker 2: in like seven months. I was like, I'm calling immediately,
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  Speaker 2: getting y'all on the phone because this feels too morbid.
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  Speaker 2: And they just laughed their butts off. They thought it
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  Speaker 2: was the funniest thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just getting ready, you know?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, isn't it y'all's anniversary? They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we stopped counting. I was like, that's crazy. But it
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  Speaker 2: also makes you think. I'm like, I wonder what that
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  Speaker 2: would feel like. My grandma's 86. Grandpa's 85.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty young.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty young. But at the same time, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: What else do you do with your days? You're like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I talk to them. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 3: have you all been doing?
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  Speaker 4: Nothing. I do wonder what the age is where you
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  Speaker 4: just give up, if that makes sense. Like, I wonder
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  Speaker 4: if it's a post-retirement thing where you have a year
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  Speaker 4: of fun, and then after that, you kind of don't
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  Speaker 4: really care. Because we had an Uber driver over the
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  Speaker 4: weekend on my Trampabay getaway trip, and we had this
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  Speaker 4: driver take us to the boat. And this guy's maybe
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  Speaker 4: in his 70s, and some girl was trying to make
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  Speaker 4: small talk with him about his birthdays, and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't really need any more birthdays.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: That's so morbid.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: It was so sad. Honestly, I was like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the things that obviously, like, I
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  Speaker 2: know my family is, like, just so proud of and
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  Speaker 2: it was so cool to see. Like, my grandparents love
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  Speaker 2: that we have great grandchildren now. Like, my cousins have kids. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they live in the same, like, community. So they
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  Speaker 3: get to see them all the time. That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think about, like, when you get into that age,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you travel way less. You've probably seen everything
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  Speaker 2: you want to see. How many shows or things do
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  Speaker 2: you still have on that to-do list? I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: because in my head, I think about it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I will never run out of things that I want
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  Speaker 2: to do in this life.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Tell that to my 90
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  Speaker 3: year old self. That's like I've literally done it all.
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  Speaker 4: But maybe your brain changes to a point where your
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  Speaker 4: brain starts to realize you don't have that many years left.
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  Speaker 4: So it starts it stops making you want things.
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  Speaker 2: This is such a morbid question. But if we could
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  Speaker 2: go down this route for a second, do you ever.
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  Speaker 2: How would you like to spend your last days?
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  Speaker 1: How would I like to spend my life?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I see there's sometimes these cruises that, like, obviously, like,
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  Speaker 2: old people pass on cruises all the time, I've heard,
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  Speaker 2: because they just get on and they just never get off.
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  Speaker 2: And there's cruises that will just travel around the world.
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  Speaker 2: And I think about, that's a kind of cool way
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  Speaker 2: to go. Like, obviously, I don't want to, and again,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen so many family members, like, obviously pass in hospitals.
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  Speaker 2: They get sick, and that's obviously the last couple days. But, man,
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  Speaker 2: if I could have a say in that last little bit,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so curious on how these comments are going to go.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to be on a cruise or, like,
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  Speaker 3: on a beach somewhere. Like, wheel me out.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that I'd want to be that far
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  Speaker 4: from home, though. Like, I don't like the idea of
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  Speaker 4: somebody having to move my dead body back to Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it does. That's why I ask.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm like, what if I don't make it? What
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  Speaker 1: if someone loses me? Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: That's so true. Like, they lose luggage. What are they
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  Speaker 3: going to do with the body? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've always pictured either, like, a hospital or
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  Speaker 1: my house. Do you know what I mean? Like, those
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  Speaker 1: are the natural places you assume you and I.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Granted, you know, I could get shot tomorrow, but who knows?
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  Speaker 1: God willing, that could be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God, that'd be so bad.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want a headline. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be a headline story.
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  Speaker 4: That's the only thing I don't want for my death
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  Speaker 4: is I don't want to be local radio host gets
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  Speaker 4: hit by truck.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I don't want.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what to knock on That's horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I like what's one of a weird fear that
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  Speaker 2: has popped up for me recently has been like car accidents.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I say that in that same tangent because we're
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  Speaker 2: talking to friends over the weekend and they're telling me
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  Speaker 2: this story about this wild car accident that their friends
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  Speaker 2: went through. And I thought to myself, I'm like, and
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't even their fault. Like there's like a car
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the road that was just stopped.
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  Speaker 2: And in my head, all of a sudden, yeah, of course,
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  Speaker 2: it's always a risk being on the roads. But I
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  Speaker 2: was like, that is a moment that will forever change
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  Speaker 2: your life. Boom.
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  Speaker 3: One accident changes everything.
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  Speaker 4: And it's funny because you don't really think about it
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  Speaker 4: because every time I go to the airport, I go, God,
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  Speaker 4: I hope I don't die in a plane crash today.
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  Speaker 4: But I drive in my car every single day and
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  Speaker 4: I never once think, I could get in an accident.
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  Speaker 1: That could kill me.
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  Speaker 2: You're just kind of banking on grace of luck. I
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  Speaker 2: hope this doesn't go in a bad direction. And that's
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  Speaker 2: really tough because I know this podcast is obviously listened
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  Speaker 2: to by a ton of you.
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  Speaker 1: And your cars.
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  Speaker 3: And your cars.
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  Speaker 1: Drive safe. Keep both hands on the wheel.
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  Speaker 2: And also, I'm sorry if that brings up any hard
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  Speaker 2: feelings or realities.
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  Speaker 3: That's really tough.
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  Speaker 4: I'll put a content warning at the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Things that's like, you don't think about it until these moments.
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  Speaker 2: I think That's what I'm learning as I'm getting older
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  Speaker 2: is now, you know, it's not like we're old. But
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  Speaker 2: now those little thoughts of like, oh, wait, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: invincible start to pop into my head. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like what could happen? I don't know. I hope nothing.
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  Speaker 3: But you literally don't know what tomorrow brings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd like to think if you if you want
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  Speaker 4: to continue doing things, that's a sign that you have.
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  Speaker 1: Years to do it. Yeah, I would say so.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's always the case because did I
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  Speaker 4: ever tell you that Sidney Toll died? That girl that
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  Speaker 4: I kept bringing up, the girl who was diagnosed with cancer?
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  Speaker 3: I think you did, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's so young. I think she was like 26
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  Speaker 4: or 27. That was really tough for me to see.
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  Speaker 4: I got that headline and it said Sidney Toll has
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  Speaker 4: passed away. I was like, oh my God, I've been
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: following her for so long. And I could just tell.
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  Speaker 4: I remember she got a diet or she did some
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: kind of clinical trial. And I'm sorry, kind of not
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: in advance, whatever the opposite of in advance is, laterally.
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  Speaker 4: that this is such a depressing podcast. But I remember
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: seeing a video where she was doing this new trial
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  Speaker 4: and somebody mixed up her records with somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And they said, congrats, you're cancer free.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
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  Speaker 4: And so she posts this video being like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 4: the trial worked. I'm cancer free.
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  Speaker 1: Wrong files.
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  Speaker 4: And not only was she not cancer free, but it
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  Speaker 4: had gotten worse. And there was something in.
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  Speaker 1: My gut that said, this is a really bad sign.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like what makes it even harder is
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  Speaker 2: now you've you've lifted my spirit up and you give
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  Speaker 2: me false hope.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: The fall from it is even harder. Like that's how
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: it was. Oh, my God.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Like the craziest year of my life. Like in 2020,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: I was dealing with loss everywhere. But I remember like
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: literally what a sad episode.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: This is what happens in Delipart and dies. I know.
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: I think you get like, I don't know, perspective. It
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: gives you just time to reflect.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: And I remember when my mom passed, it was crazy.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Trying to wrap my head around that. And we went
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: down to go.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: See my grandma. Didn't even know my grandma was sick.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Literally had no idea. It was Thanksgiving. We get down there.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: We just find out she's sick. She's in the hospital.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: We're like, weird. Out of nowhere. Within a month, gone.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: Do you think she felt okay to pass because your
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: mom had passed? Kind of in the same vein as
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: people who are married when their partner passes. She's like, well,
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: if my daughter's not here, I don't want to be here.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: Well, that's where it's tough because it wasn't my mom's mom.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: It was my dad's mom.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: Well, then that makes no sense.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think what's crazy is I think
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: back to that time period, and I remember, like, my
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: grandma and I were close, but not, like, super close,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Like, we didn't talk every day and stuff like that.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: But when my mom passed, we got a lot closer.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: You know, she was such a person I could lean
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: on for that month before Thanksgiving. And I remember, like,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: what a weird thing. Like, things kind of lined up. Like,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: we got closer.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Conversations got way deeper. And then Thanksgiving hit and I
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: was like, boom, boom. Like a month, bam, bam. I
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: was like, what the heck?
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, you could kind of focus on
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: wherever you wanted to go. Like in my head, the
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: way I made grace with it was I needed to
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: have her there to be somebody that I could lean
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: on to help me close a little bit of that
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: grief and then she could go. But it was just
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: the fact that we didn't know. It was the fact
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: that like nobody knew she was sick. I don't know,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: maybe somebody did. Maybe my aunt or my dad did.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: And then, Nothing.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Boom. It's like, that was the last time. It's just
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: crazy for me. Like it's how quick it could happen.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Like somebody is here and then all of a sudden
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: they're not.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: It's freaky.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: You just never know. And I think that's why I
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: started making calls yesterday. I was like, I don't know.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Have all of a sudden the call of like, okay,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you got to make the drive up here. You know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: got to have the conversation that somebody's passed without having
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: that last conversation.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's so hard. And I think that's a lesson
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I learned.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Anytime somebody super important in our lives goes, It just
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: puts that perspective in my mind of like, reach out.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Don't delay the conversation that you've been waiting to have. Exactly.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: And I think.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: My dad's parents are experiencing this because remember back in April,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I had to cancel my Charleston trip because they're like,
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: your grandma's going to die.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, she's still here. Murphy jeans are literally insane.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: You guys are going to live forever.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: No, somebody's going to need to hit me with a
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: car because otherwise I'm never going to die. But my
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: dad's dad was going through that and being like, there's
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: just so much we should have done or could have done.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: And in a really morbid way, because my grandparents are very,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: very old, they're in their mid-90s maybe, late 90s, I
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: remember thinking, well, if my grandma passes away, my dad's mom,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: my grandfather can come to my brother's wedding, and these
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: are things he could have done if she did pass.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: But then it was also sad in the sense that, like,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: if she passes, he's got, like, a year probably, because
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: they were so in love that I feel like, it
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: would almost be a good thing for her to pass
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: so he can start to experience life because you only
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: have so much time to get to experience your family.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: And it seems like he was harboring a ton of regret.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think for them, I think there's different
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: perspectives of like the family obviously wants to be around
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: the older family members where it's like the older family members.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: It's different for everybody's family, but I think they'd rather
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: be next to that person. That they actually started the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: family with. Yeah. They're like, I'm not going to travel. Like,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I love you, but I'm not going to leave my
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: partner's side. And if I could, it's so hard to,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: but if I put myself in those shoes, like, I
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: would completely understand.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, I would do the same thing. I'd stay
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: right there. I'm not leaving. What the heck? How could
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I leave when I've been by your side for this
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: entire lifetime?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Ugh.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Is there anything happier we could bring down the track?
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I don't really know if I got to be honest
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: with you. I'm going to go see Olivia Dean on Saturday.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I was looking at, like, my plans for Key West.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm starting to finally get people that are like, yes,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I could go. Or, like, I had a couple buddies, like,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: they've been off the job for a little bit. They
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: got let go, and they just got one.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, sweet.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: What I did decide to do, and they don't listen
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to this podcast, I'll just let the fam know. You
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: told me how, like, you know, you should pay for
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. I didn't do that, but I did take.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Half of it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: So people are coming now.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: So people are coming now.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Because I was like, I just don't want it to
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: be something that somebody's held up on. Because I had
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to pay half of it already.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And so that payment's already done.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: As I look at my accounts, I'm like, that's fine.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'd rather just have the one, like the other half
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: of the payment, everybody could split, which is way cheaper
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: for them if that means more people could go.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of how I feel with things
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: like a bachelorette trip or a birthday trip where if
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: you want people to come celebrate you, I do think
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: you need to take the brunt of the cost. And
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's really sweet when people do want to
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: treat you or maybe if it's like just enough to
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: where it feels like a birthday gift, I think that's fair.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I've been invited on birthday trips where
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is going to be like a thousand
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: dollars for me to go when it's a four hundred
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: dollar airfare and then it's a three hundred dollar hotel
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: and then it's three hundred dollars for food and Bev.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, this is tons of money that. respectfully,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I would rather spend on a cruise for, for my
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: own vacation or whatever. And so I always think it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: really sweet when people want to contribute, but I also
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: think like, it's only fair for you to take the
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: brunt of it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's acceptable.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Like that's when I started thinking about it, I was like, yeah,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are traveling across the country.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: It's like you said, that airfare, that's no joke. That's
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: an extra like 400 bucks.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's a ton of money and it's different.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if people are going to
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: drive to Key West, if maybe that's easy for them,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: but if you've got to fly, I mean, That's 400
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: bucks right there.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Just to get down.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: And for some people, that's no money at all. But
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: for some people, I mean, that's like half their rent.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what's, you know, this time period,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: like we're around 30. So it's some people, you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: are making more than others. Some people are progressing in
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: their career. Some people are just getting started in their career.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And I think in this chapter, that's understandable to really
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: help out where you can. And I'm sure it's going
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to look different in 10 years where it's like, yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: like if you want to do a trip altogether, well,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you're everyone's probably going to be able to carry their
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: own weight.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I can only assume.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And what I will take from this moving forward is
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: obviously being the planner of the friend group now, I guess,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: if I do something for the entire group next year
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and it's just a trip for everyone, then I'm not
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: paying half of it because it's not for like a birthday.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: That's an everybody trip. If you want to go, then
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you are agreeing to pay this price.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense. So that's cool.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So Olivia Dean over the weekend, popping in 24 hours,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and then right after.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Right after finally going to Italy. Very excited. The trip
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that is allegedly happening.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Allegedly.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, I've been saying for the last year
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: that it's this thing in my head that doesn't feel
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: real because I planned it while also sort of going
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: through unemployment and starting a new job. So just life
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: in general feels different and weird and that I just
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: can't conceptualize that I'm going to be spending a week
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: in a.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Beautiful place with really great people. Like in my mind,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not like a thing that's happening.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't feel real.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And so I guess that means that's that's great. And
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: that you kind of go into things with no expectations.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Cause sometimes I get a gut feeling before a trip
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: about how it's going to go. And so it's kind
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: of nice that I don't have a gut feeling period.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, I'm just going to go. I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: just going to Italy, and I have zero expectations.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And what a cool place to just go. I'm just
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: going to Italy.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Respectfully, I'm just going to Italy. And I hope everything
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: goes okay. I have a little bit of flight trauma
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: from my last big European trip.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I did remember seeing that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That was heinous. That was literally one of the worst
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: days ever. And it ended up being fine. But, yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: hopefully it's okay this time around.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I've seen a couple people post online, like, the flight
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: situation that you went through. And this could just be
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a quick tangent of, like, It's crazy how often it
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: happens with flights of, you know, I can't remember exactly
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: your situation, but I saw a guy yesterday talking and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: this has happened to me. We're like, your plane has
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: a problem and it has to land before the city
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it actually gets to. And then the team that's on it,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: they time out. And so you're just stranded in a city.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you got to find
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a way to get to your actual location. And for
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a majority of it, like the airlines will just wear
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you out before you like, you just kind of give up.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I did that with, you know, I don't know if
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: it's a problem to say, But it's the airline that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: has the blue in the name. And I remember I
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: was trying to go back and forth.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: With them forever.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And it's like they just wear you out in the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: emails enough where you're like, you know what?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to suck up this 200 bucks.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And they know you'll do it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And it worked. And it just.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: However, I will never go on that plane again. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: would rather walk before I get on that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I will say that customer service line is really terrible.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I had an experience a couple of years ago with
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: them where they wanted to. charge me like quadruple just
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: to change my flight for a day. I did it
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: like ahead of time, the whole thing. And I was like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: are you kidding me?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I had some pretty crazy drama last time around.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Thank you Delta for making it right. Um, but yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: it was, I almost got stranded in the UK. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm an immigrant now.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I guess. Cause I was like, I don't know that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I can afford to get back home.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: What would you do if you lived in another country?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Like for work?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Cause I always think every now and then I get
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: this little twinge. I'm like, What if I just dropped
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: everything and moved to Spain?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I would like it. I think
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it'd be fun for a summer. Like if you had
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the kind of job where you could do it for
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: three months, but then come back home. But I don't
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: think I was born to be an expat.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Like I do feel very, I feel very American.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Like, as I always like, I would
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: love that vision, but I'm like, what would I do? Like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: would I serve coffee? I work at a shop and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: maybe it would be super fun.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'd open my own, but I do feel like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: living maybe just for a couple of months.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: That would be dope.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like one summer would be so cool. You make
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: some friends. You have some experiences. You get to really
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: soak in a city. But I think I would constantly
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: be like, I feel so far.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: From everything I know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: That is wild to think, though, how many people have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: done that here. Like it's like move over to America
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and it's starting your whole life over.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: But to be fair, I think the reason I like
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: America so much is it sort of feels like the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: epicenter of everything, which is maybe like an American nationalist
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: thing to say.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: People are like, okay, America's not the center of the universe.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But think about it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Like America really controls a lot of shit. And I
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: kind of like being where the people are. You know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: there's a ton of people here. You can go from
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: state to state. There's just so many things that make
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: me proud to be an American and like just like
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: a very normal patriotic way, not like.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: A crazy way. You're flying on an eagle.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not like a nationalist kind of way, just more
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: of like I really like America and I like traveling
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: and I like experiencing other cultures. But I do at
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, like being American and being here.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's like literally where everybody comes. So it is a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: melting pot of the world.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So you could literally get a little piece of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: world in different pockets of just America. Yeah. And then
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: go see the rest. When you go to Italy, what
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: is your itinerary? Because we just got an invitation for
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a wedding in Italy next year.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, fun.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Where's the wedding?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's like in this crazy castle just outside
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: of Rome.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. That'll be fun.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: But then for the first.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Time ever, like getting to explore outside of Rome, like
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to rent a car. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: In Italy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I've never done that. I've never driven in a foreign country.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, this is going to be crazy.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That will be scary.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: You'll have to make sure that you can get an
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: automatic because sometimes they have the manuals.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: It's like very common for people to use six shift
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: We'll have to figure that out. But where are you
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: all going? Like, what's the itinerary look like?
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So we're going for a week in Sorrento. So I'm excited.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Last time around, we were bopping from city to city.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this time around, I was like, less buses.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Just let's just use one hotel. So we're staying in
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the city of Sorrento, which is on the Amalfi Coast.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And what are we doing? I'm getting there a day
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: early just because if.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: There's something that goes wrong with my flight, I want
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to have, like, a day to kind of back everything up.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: We'll be doing beach clubs. We're doing a boat trip
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: to Capri one day, which will be a lot of fun.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that. We're doing a pasta-making class
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: one day with a chef.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be cool.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to that. We're doing, like, a
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: day trip around the Amalfi, just, like, again, one bus.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: A singular bus. Yeah, just one. And exploring Amalfi.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I think we might do a day trip to Positano
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: and some other small towns like Ravello.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: That sounds like a good itinerary.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a lot less, like, busy movement where
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: you could actually enjoy the space.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, I want people to feel like they're
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: on vacation. I think I got a lot of really
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: good feedback just from myself, but also from people in
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: general on the last big trip that we did. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: because I now have more freedom to pick companies to
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: work with, or if I can just plan them on
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: my own, I can give really specific feedback. Like some
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of the things that I've learned on girls trips is
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing that will change the mood of an
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: entire trip is letting people sleep in. And the problem
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: is when you go through a company with pre-planned itineraries
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: is they kind of just make a general itinerary that's
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: going to fit the masses. And the girls that I
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: travel with really like to go out. And that's not
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: like a party, rage, unhealthy way, just more of like
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: these are usually single women, usually not always. Usually single
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: women that want to go out and mingle and experience nightlife.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And so when you're out until 3 a.m., the last
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: thing you want to do.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Is wake up at 9.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, hell no.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Or wake up at 8 to do a tour. So
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: that's one thing I started implementing on the trips. And
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I think it has made a huge difference in just
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: people getting to enjoy their time. So getting to sleep
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: in and organizing the trip so that there are activities
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: that are specifically designed to bring people together. Like the
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: cooking class is the first thing I wanted to do
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, there's nothing that's going to bring people
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: together more than some kind of shared activity, some good food,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: some good wine, and then doing things that feel more
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: celebratory towards the end.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: That's going to be so cool. I've seen the cooking
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: video classes, and they have a ton in Italy. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I see this video every now and then where, like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: people just get lit. Oh, yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: The girls are going to get– the second day, too,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is always the most fun because it's the one where
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you have enough energy to go out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: You know what bars or.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Whatever downtown you're going to enjoy going to because the
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: first night's always weird. That's the thing you also have
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: to remember is the first night is going to be
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: weird no matter what.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: People are jet lagged. Nobody knows anybody. Nobody knows the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: city that we're in. Nobody knows where to go.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: And then the second day, it's kind of when I
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: feel like people kind of catch a little bit of.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: They have some more energy to go.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Like a little rapport is now built in the group.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yes. And then the third day is always the most
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: hungover day. People are usually like, OK, went way too hard.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So the third day can be a little bit weird, too.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: And then fourth day, people like, OK, let's freaking go.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's cool that you've now like had it like mastered
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: down to you not only know what activities are good.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: But even like you said, like the mood of people.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: It's so true.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Like because when you even if you're not going on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: one of these getaway trips, but like the vacations alone,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we go to these places and I always say this.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: We come back more tired than when we left.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: And I don't want people to feel that way. Like
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily I don't want people to be bored.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that people aren't going to be
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: tired because you're probably going to be tired no matter
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: what because of traveling and everything. But one thing I
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to do as well on this trip was I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: wanted to give people a free day to be like
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do while you're here, either you
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: whether that be sleep in, or if you want to
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: explore a town outside of, um, Sorrento, I want you
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: to have the opportunity to do that too. So there's
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: like a break day in the middle, right before the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: final day. So if you want to catch up on
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: some sleep and then you want to go out in
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: a big, like hurrah at the very, very end, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: can do that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Um, we're doing that too.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: That's really cool. That's smart.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I learned that on the last retreat, my quote unquote,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: ayahuasca retreat, just yoga. But we went in to also
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: El Salvador and, And that was like the same kind
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: of schedule. It's like very easy morning. If you want
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to get up and do yoga at seven, go ahead.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: If you want to go out and just like have
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of drinks at night, go ahead. But it
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: was very open and there's like one or two activities
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: every day. And so actually with that same thing, Brianda,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend and I decided that we signed up for
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice. In January.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So we're going to go together to this yoga retreat.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And this time we'll be in Mexico.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Very fun.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: So now we get to experience that whole thing where
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: it's For.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Some reason, it was such a beautiful experience of having
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a more relaxed trip.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Because the activities that you did get to do were
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: way more intentional. You weren't just filling a calendar. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: so I learned more on that trip than probably 95%
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: of any other trips or conferences that I've gone to.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So that's actually really cool that you guys are getting
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to do that experience. And it is less than two
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: weeks away.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I can't believe, like, literally, I leave next Friday. So,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not even, it's like a week and
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Are you going to be on the show that Friday
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: or no?
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: No.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Nice. I know. I'll be on a plane, God willing,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: as long as nothing goes wrong.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Nothing's going wrong.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: This is your reminder to get trip insurance if you're
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: traveling anywhere with lots of flights because that's the other
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: thing that does suck about not living in Atlanta anymore
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: is I was like, oh, God, there was a great
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: direct flight to Naples right out of ETL.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So if that flight goes wrong, then you can find
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: another one. Where is this?
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, God, I hope my flight to JFK
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: doesn't get screwed up.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anything is going to go wrong
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: this time.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine because it's like, I feel like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: we all have one or two super shitty travel experiences.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: How many could life really throw at you? It can't
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: happen every time.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That's not, that's not what I'm saying. Well, if you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: obviously as you're commenting on these podcasts and being a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: part of it, there's going to be more like, I'm sure.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Is there already one in the works for after Italy?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So I had, I kind of revealed this to the girls.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I had plans to do a duo's trip to Quebec city,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: but for some reason, my guts just saying this isn't
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: the right year.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, So side note, if you hear this and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you're like, wait, no, I heard you talk about going
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to Quebec City. I really wanted to do that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I wanted to do a duo's trip, but I just
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: think this year got too busy to where I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: it would, I don't know that a lot of people
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: would sign up for it to where it would feel
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: like a big enough group trip for people to feel
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: like it was worth signing up for. I'm not talking
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: down on it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe it would.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So feel free to email me or whatever. And it
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: would be more expensive. So I'm like, maybe I need
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: to give more people time to think about it and
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: save for it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So I might do it for next year.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: But for next year, for the things that I definitely
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: think I'm going to do, I always do a Europe trip.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: So I do think, well, I'm not going to give
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: away what's on my mind because I don't know if
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: people are sick of Europe yet.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if people want to go to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: like Japan or something.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Like that's even bigger.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It'd be a massive trip.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Um, so I'm considering Japan, maybe not for 2027, maybe
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: for 2028. There's one place in Europe I'm considering because
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: there's one place I want to go.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Um, respectfully, I do like going to Europe.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Um, And then I thought about doing a girls and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: gays cruise for March. And then I definitely want to
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: try and do Nantucket. Nantucket, logistically, I'm trying to figure
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: out how to make that make sense because there's not
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of hotels that do queen queens.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of like single beds.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: And so- I don't want to have to like jack
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: up the price just because you can't share a room.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure all that stuff out.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Have you done a Charleston trip yet with the girls?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I tried planning Charleston this year and it didn't, I
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: just decided to cancel it because I was starting this
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: job and I was like, that's just respectfully like too much.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I just think cause he's like, he loved that city.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I love Charleston.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I was going to do Charleston, but there's somebody that
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about working with. I was going to go
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: in March for food and wine. There's somebody that I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: want to come on the trip and they don't want
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: to do Charleston.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Damn it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Uh they didn't say that explicitly they just weren't excited
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: when i brought it up it's a feel and i
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: have been getting requests to do a cruise over and
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: over and over again yeah people have been begging me
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: to do an all-inclusive some kind of all-inclusive thing and
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: people have brought up cruises a lot um so i
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: was like well march makes sense for a cruise because
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: that's typically good weather so.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah like a little spring break cruise.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Too yeah i know so girls and gays cruise maybe
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that'll be happening 2027.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Girls and gays getaway.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Well, if you ever want to be a part of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: those trips, I know there's more and more coming. So obviously,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I think, what's the Instagram?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Girls getaway?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: At girlsgonegetaways.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Hit it up.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Follow it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: The pictures that you have from the last, the Trampa
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Bay getaway looked a lot of fun.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: It was a good time. 10 out of 10 I recommend.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Always subscribe, like, comment on the podcast, and we have
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: more coming. So thanks for being part of this, fam.