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#024- "I Want A Win For My Partner" · Blue Grit Podcast: The Voice of Texas Law Enforcement

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SPEAKER_03: A few seconds later, this flash fire comes out of the front of that door.
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SPEAKER_03: We're standing.
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SPEAKER_03: And we're like, okay, we're gonna start CPR.
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SPEAKER_03: She's not breathing.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's leaning over his high.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll never forget this.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's like, is she dead?
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SPEAKER_03: I want to win for my partner.
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SPEAKER_03: I want Amigo to like get all the accolades.
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SPEAKER_03: I want him to get all the success stories.
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SPEAKER_03: And so it's it's everything.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm always like, man, I want I want this for Amigo.
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SPEAKER_01: BlueGrit Podcast, we are back.
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SPEAKER_01: Clint McNear.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm Tyler Owen.
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SPEAKER_01: He forgets he has that Denny Crisis, forgets who he is sometimes.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, guys.
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SPEAKER_01: It's BlueGrit Podcast, Clinton Tyler.
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SPEAKER_01: Um got another cool episode this week.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't ever know where he puts the light when it only like to keep you guessing.
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SPEAKER_01: This week we're sitting next to each other.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Not sure.
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SPEAKER_01: We have a special guest on.
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SPEAKER_00: We do.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the show, bro.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: Ryan?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm here.
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SPEAKER_00: Frisco, canine officer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the blue grit stage.
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SPEAKER_00: You and your partner, Amigo.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that explains why you two guys are sitting over there by lonesome.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, Clint has a crush on me.
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SPEAKER_00: He won't say that publicly.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: I'll say it publicly.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll say it right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you, brother.
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SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
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SPEAKER_00: Right in front of Amigo.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, he's here.
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SPEAKER_00: He's just not in camera view.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We have Amigo down on the other side of the table as a guest host.
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SPEAKER_01: He is camera shy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:39
SPEAKER_03: I actually don't think he is, if we uh saw what happened before we started.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Amigo before we started was sitting right here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: No, man, welcome uh welcome to the show.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: We uh we thought it'd be good to have a canine officer on.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh you were highly, highly, highly recommended by Tony Reich and uh our interactions together.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I've always thought you were, you know, well spoken.
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SPEAKER_00: And and uh Tony recommended that you come on and and talk about your experience, what it means, and uh all the hard work that canine officers really have to put into the work.
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SPEAKER_00: So welcome to the show, brother.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, thank you all very much for having me on.
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SPEAKER_03: Really do appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So tell us about you and and how you got you to uh work in law enforcement and uh your your work experience.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: Who is Ryan?
2:23
SPEAKER_00: Where's Ryan from?
2:24
SPEAKER_03: I gotta take a deep breath for this one.
2:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh actually, I was born in uh southeast Houston.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: Uh a lot of folks refer to it as Stinky Dina, but Pasadena.
2:33
SPEAKER_03: Stinky Dina.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: Yep, where all the refineries are.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: Um so I I was born down that way and did my I guess my first 10 years of life down there before we moved up to North Texas.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:43
SPEAKER_03: Um my grandfather actually was a law enforcement officer.
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SPEAKER_03: And it's kind of interesting because getting ready for this podcast spawned a conversation with me and my dad and my mom about, you know, just kind of history and kind of filling in some blanks and things like that.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: And I learned that my grandpa worked for DPS and I didn't even know that.
3:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
3:03
SPEAKER_03: Me and my brothers were talking about that the other day, and I was like, Did y'all know that?
3:06
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Nope.
3:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no kidding.
3:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:08
SPEAKER_03: So he worked for DPS for a couple of years in the 60s and then old school troopers.
3:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:14
SPEAKER_03: And then made his way to work for uh Gacinno City PD uh down in Houston, uh, where he worked for a few more years.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: And he he didn't do a full career in that, uh, had a heart attack at a young age and and uh stopped working.
3:27
SPEAKER_03: But my dad, oddly enough, coincidentally enough, uh started his career in 1990 in Gacinto City also, um, and was a police officer down there.
3:37
SPEAKER_03: Went back and forth between uh Gacinno City and uh Harris County, uh worked for Precinct II for the constables down there for a brief time, and then ended up back at Gacinto City before we ended up moving up here in 96.
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SPEAKER_03: His chief at the time was offered the chief of police position in the colony and told my dad, hey, you know, I think we should uh maybe venture north, you know, greener pastures up there.
4:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh a lot, lots gonna be happening in the future.
4:04
SPEAKER_03: And well, that's no luck.
4:05
SPEAKER_03: Colony's changed.
4:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he called it right on that one.
4:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:09
SPEAKER_03: And so in 96 we moved up to uh uh to the colony, the whole family.
4:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was it was tough because we were our roots are there.
4:17
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're still there.
4:17
SPEAKER_03: We have family down there everywhere.
4:19
SPEAKER_03: And uh so that was an interesting transition from Houston, and I was fifth grade at the time.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so our first couple of years there we were not happy.
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SPEAKER_03: My mom wasn't happy because her parents were still in Houston, and you know, just I my mom is from uh South America from Columbia, her family is.
4:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, so you know that I think you you said you're married to a Hispanic woman?
4:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so yeah, the the roots, you know, the family's tight.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: So mom ain't happy.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, ain't nobody happy.
4:47
SPEAKER_03: And I and I think during that time when we after we had moved up not long ago, my dad was actually offered the chief spot back in Jacinto City and they they contemplated moving back for a period of time and ended up not doing that.
4:59
SPEAKER_03: Um so we stayed there.
5:01
SPEAKER_03: And I actually, during the whole time my dad's been a police officer when I was young in high school and things, I had kind of a similar experience to you, Clint, because I got kind of picked on because of you know my dad being a police officer, everybody knew it, you know, and so I'd, you know, you're you know, you're the narc, you're the snitch, you know, you're your goody two shoes, whatever it would was.
5:22
SPEAKER_03: And so um looking back on that now, you know, I mean whatever, but uh I definitely affected me a little bit coming up.
5:32
SPEAKER_03: And I always remember when I was young, my dad would always get phone calls.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, it'd be Sally down the street, you know, hey, um, you know, something happened today, and you know, I I just need some advice about police work.
5:44
SPEAKER_03: And I always thought that was interesting because I that was my experience the whole time growing up.
5:48
SPEAKER_03: Always people calling my dad trying to you know find out about something law enforcement related and legal counseling, legal counseling, yeah.
5:54
SPEAKER_03: And I never had that experience as much, me as a police officer now, but I was I always remember that.
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SPEAKER_03: So looking back on it.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I had always said because of that experience, I really didn't have an interest in law enforcement.
6:07
SPEAKER_03: What turned that around for me though was being a police explorer.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think I've heard a lot of people that have been on here talk about that, right?
6:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: That's cool, man.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:16
SPEAKER_00: That comes up like every three episodes, it comes up about it.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: And I can't stress it enough.
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SPEAKER_00: That and uh that and working in the jail and police explorers.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I honestly I wish our state legislators, so if if any of them do listen to this podcast, I really wish that they would look at some way to fund it, to fund to get that program back and running because if it you just went to that deal in DC.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Recruitment and retention, right?
6:41
SPEAKER_00: We've got to get this thing back up and running.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: We have to.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: And that was one of the topics up there.
6:47
SPEAKER_01: So I just looked up on the screen and you're almost not on the screen.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: Scoot over here.
6:51
SPEAKER_03: We want to see you.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
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SPEAKER_01: There you are.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: I can see you now.
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SPEAKER_01: We're only seeing half the man you are.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna leave that one alone.
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SPEAKER_01: So we were in uh we were in DC about two weeks ago for a retention and recruiting crisis round table.
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SPEAKER_01: And we've talked we've talked really since we started it from time to time about explorers and the importance of it.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: And I think Nathan reached out to us when his Nathan that reached out about he's an explorer, wants to be a cop, but in DC it came up, and I kind of thought maybe Explorer program was going away.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and it looks like they're trying to double down and even maybe grasp kids at an earlier age and integrate them more, um, and so that there's a real partnership there and grow them, you know, starting in seventh or eighth grade rather than, you know, tenth or eleventh grade and get it to where they can transition quickly to like a PSO position or a jailer position, you know, very quick and begin that process to really try and integrate them because if we're trying to get them at 23 or 24, I think it's too late or they're already seeing opportunities for bigger money.
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SPEAKER_01: And man, that's cool.
8:10
SPEAKER_01: I I like that the explorer program has come up again.
8:13
SPEAKER_03: The the great thing about that, and I I say this the the advisor at the time, his name's Chuck Wood.
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SPEAKER_03: He's actually started his career in San Antonio and then moved up to the colony when I was a young buck, but he uh he has probably that I can think of off the top of my head, you know, six or seven officers that are probably in the Metroplex that were explorers of his, which I think's awesome legacy to have.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so I when I started exploring and started doing all the competitions and things like that, and then doing my ride-alongs and you know, sitting there typing on the green screen, running, you know, tags for him at night and things like that.
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SPEAKER_03: Um that was I I felt the camaraderie of law enforcement, and and that was a side I hadn't really got to see.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: Because my dad had transitioned at that time into administration, so it was kind of a whole different, you know, ballpark.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: And so I I got to see the the side of law enforcement that is what I really appreciate about it still today.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: Um but that expresses just how impactful the explorer program can be because you're a third generation officer just like I am.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: And the explorer program had as much or more of an impact on you than it just being it like a family thing and growing up around it.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: The explorer program had that big of an impact on man, maybe this is the path.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: I think that I can't, I that doesn't you can't say enough how much that that program could steer a young person to.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and oddly enough, with my experience, they had me work on that when I started at Frisco um to start working on getting a program started because we didn't have one at the time, and we have one now, and we've since I think they just did uh did a conditional job offer for our first explorer that we had started the program with.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: So she's coming over, um, hopefully starting the academy soon and all that, so it'll be a nice story to to show the circle, which is what they wanted.
9:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, when that happens, we want to bring her on.
10:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:02
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, yeah, yeah, it'd be great.
10:04
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
10:05
SPEAKER_03: So I uh like I said, I did explorers through then, and when I got to right before college, I was playing baseball at the time and actually had an opportunity to go play college baseball out in Abilene.
10:18
SPEAKER_03: Um I was dating a girl at the time, and you know, I was like, I don't really want to leave town, you know, this, that, and um that kind of influenced my decision, whatever.
10:28
SPEAKER_03: So I ended up going and working um at at Stonebrier Mall in Frisco for a little while and uh got the opportunity while I was going to community college to go work for the jail, like we talked about.
10:41
SPEAKER_03: Another one of those avenues.
10:42
SPEAKER_03: And so uh farmer's branch PD at the time.
10:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh we knew some folks there and they uh they took me under their wing, got me hired there at 18 years old.
10:51
SPEAKER_03: I I look back on that now and I'm like 18 and ideal with the the 18-year-olds that I interact with at work, I'm like, I can't imagine myself again.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Like thinking back on somebody hiring me, give me the opportunity.
11:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I solely appreciate that, but it's kind of scary at the same time to think about.
11:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, yeah, but uh but that working in a jail setting, especially at that time, um and the the interactions that we had, I've learned so much.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: I learned how to talk to people, I learned how to you know have a command presence and all these things.
11:25
SPEAKER_03: I I I was my dad was a police officer, yeah, and I was raised in a police household, but I was an innocent kid.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, at the end of the day, I I didn't know about all you know the things that went on.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: The darkness.
11:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the darkness, the dark side.
11:38
SPEAKER_03: So um that was a a very quick dive into that.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: Um so I worked in the jail right right before I was 21, and uh police officer position came up, and I actually tried to go to Frisco.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: My dad was like, hey, you know, Frisco is a great, it's a place that you probably want to be for the future.
11:58
SPEAKER_03: And so I had called up there and they were like, now we're really not looking at you know bringing anybody on to send to the academy and that kind of stuff.
12:04
SPEAKER_03: And so I was like, okay, well, farmers branching it up, giving me the opportunity.
12:08
SPEAKER_03: I went to the police academy in 2008, um, regional police academy up there with 53 people.
12:14
SPEAKER_03: I think I heard y'all talking recently about uh some some of the police academy sizes and things, and so it's that's actually on the larger side, it seems like these days.
12:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:25
SPEAKER_03: Um so I went there, you know, met some folks.
12:29
SPEAKER_03: There's not a lot of people from that class that are still cops, oddly enough.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: Mine either.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, mine either.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: I was the only one I think out of my class that that that didn't get arrested or quit or stayed in law enforcement for for whatever reason.
12:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I I think I I bring that back to the explorer stuff.
12:46
SPEAKER_03: Like I I had a leg up when I started there.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: I've had been you know around penal code and you know all these things that they expose you to and the culture and all that.
12:53
SPEAKER_03: So I and the jail, you know, I knew what I was getting into a little more than some of those things.
12:57
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
12:58
SPEAKER_03: So that helped.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I hit the ground running when I I got out of field training.
13:03
SPEAKER_03: Um Farmers Branch was a fun place to work.
13:07
SPEAKER_03: I got a lot of experience there.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: I worked uh east side of Farmers Branch for most of my career uh that I was there.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: But to like Richardson?
13:16
SPEAKER_03: No, not that far.
13:17
SPEAKER_03: So right where the toll way, 635 and Midway.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: Uh so actually what I dealt with the most were folks coming from Addison, which is a small little town, uh four square miles, I think, or something like that.
13:28
SPEAKER_03: It's got a little airport in it, but it's full of bars, and at the time it was real, real full of bars, and so I I uh got real good at DWIs for sure.
13:38
SPEAKER_03: Um But that was uh a great place to work.
13:41
SPEAKER_03: I had some great experiences, and uh I met my wife there while I was working.
13:45
SPEAKER_03: So she started working in 2010.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: Um I was a cop?
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's a cop.
13:49
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so she uh she came on uh from moved from Missouri, worked for CPS there, and uh I was a field training officer at the time.
14:01
SPEAKER_03: We paired up a few days that she had to ride along with me just because I was a stand-in for her, you know, trainer that wasn't there.
14:07
SPEAKER_03: And so we have those stories looking back on now that you know she's like, I was so fed up with you, you know.
14:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, you had the radio blaring and wouldn't give me the the computer to look at or this or that.
14:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's funny to love at first sight.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that definitely was not, definitely was not.
14:23
SPEAKER_03: But uh, you know, we we put a lot of people in jail together and and we have those stories, you know, not a lot, not a lot of folks do.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: And so it's a marriage made in heaven, put people in jail together, made in heaven.
14:32
SPEAKER_03: I tell people I met my wife in jail, so you know.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: But uh, so uh if we were gonna progress any further in our relationship, I was I was gonna have to get out of there because of nepotism that they have.
14:44
SPEAKER_03: So I uh in 20 I got my degree in uh 2013.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: And actually that was the reason I got my degree backing up.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: The legislature had passed, I think in 2009, uh a bill that gave peace officers the ability to get a criminal justice degree at no cost.
15:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:06
SPEAKER_03: I took advantage of that.
15:08
SPEAKER_03: I had a few, you know, I had done my community college hours, this and that, or whatever, and kind of let it slide.
15:14
SPEAKER_03: I was doing my you know time as a new officer and was ate up with that.
15:18
SPEAKER_03: And so when I finally saw it, I said, you know, I need to get this degree, it's an opportunity.
15:22
SPEAKER_03: So my city paid for my books that I worked for at the time, and and the you know, the state paid for the degree.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: I got it online from Tarleton in Stephenville.
15:32
SPEAKER_03: First time I stepped on campus was graduation day.
15:38
SPEAKER_03: And uh, but hey, I've got a coffee mug I drink from all the time that says Tarleton State University alumni on it.
15:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
15:44
SPEAKER_03: And uh piece of paper on the wall.
15:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, but uh so then in 2014 I applied for Frisco and uh got hired on there pretty quick.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: I had a guy that I actually worked with uh from Farmers Branch that had left about six months before me and gone there.
15:59
SPEAKER_03: So he's like, man, it's great here.
16:01
SPEAKER_03: One of the guys that worked with my dad at the colony also was working there, and they're you know, everybody's singing praises.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: This is the place to be, it's gonna grow.
16:08
SPEAKER_03: Okay, cool.
16:10
SPEAKER_03: So I go there in uh spring of 2014 and get hired on.
16:13
SPEAKER_03: And the chief at the time, when I got hired, he was like, Yeah, we'll have you here, you know, but uh just so you know, we don't have canine program, we don't have tasers, you know, you know, whatever if you're okay with that.
16:25
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, Yeah, that's fine.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: It is what it is.
16:28
SPEAKER_03: Um and I got hired on and uh uh started my career there, and I've been there since 2014 now.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: I started uh Garland in '94.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: Garland's an older city, it's landlocked, and it was a good place to be a cop.
16:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was busy and it it was really western, but my dad worked at DPD.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: He was wanting, he was wanting me to think forward thinking.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: So probably '96 or so.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: He called me and said, Man, I I really want you to consider going to Frisco.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: I know, I think he knew the chief.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: He knew somebody at Frisco.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, at the time, Frisco was working out, the mall wasn't there.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: The police station was working out of like a trailer that used to be Willie Nelson's.
17:17
SPEAKER_03: That was that was the jail.
17:19
SPEAKER_01: The jail.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that he had brought for a concert up there.
17:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Um they were working out of that while they were trying to figure out where they were gonna build a PD.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: There was just several handfuls of officers there.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I'm gonna leave Garland where we have 350 cops.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm working, you know, shootings every night and gang shootings every night.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna go to Frisco and work out of a construction site trailer that Willie Nelson gave him, you know, with like 20 officers.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: And he was like, But someday, because they're gonna grow, you're gonna be like senior top dog.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: And I thought, man, that's the stupidest idea.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, then Frisco launched, and I look back and I'm like, man, I would I would be one of the senior, because that was 28 or 30 years ago.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: I would be one of the senior guys at Frisco PD.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: I never dreamed you guys were gonna explode that way.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: It is crazy.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I looked at it the other day.
18:15
SPEAKER_03: If I was on patrol right now, and it is counted as a patrol, I'd be like number four in seniority of our officers.
18:21
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, there's guys that get come here.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: We know we're we're stealing all these folks from California right now and and recruiting, which we'll take them.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: That we've had some great guys come, but they're uh they're getting out of training and going to day shift.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's it's crazy.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: I got I got I I gotta tell you all this funny ass story about my first experience.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: I just came to TMPA.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: The riot conference was held at the Omni in Frisco.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: I might have been with TMPA maybe a year, a year and a half.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: I I hadn't really had that much interaction with Frisco cops.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: So we had partied pretty hard the night before.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, and the riot is robbery investigators, yeah.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: Is that what it is?
19:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, great conference.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really good conference.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: And so I get chuckled every time.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: What's the main road that the Omni's on?
19:11
SPEAKER_00: You got the main highway, but then what's the cross street at the store?
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Warren.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Warren.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Warren Parkway.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: So I run down Warren, I run the mile and a half, and I'm coming back.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: So uh I want you to kind of visual visually picture this.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: There's huge keep in mind, I live in East Texas.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: We're well I'm thankful to have roads.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: Frisco has sidewalks that are the size of my roads in Jefferson, okay?
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Nice sidewalks, freeway size sidewalks in Frisco, Texas.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Listeners, okay.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: I want you to picture this.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: There are freeway size sidewalks in Frisco, Texas that are like runway size.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: I and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm astonished by what I'm seeing as I'm as I'm running.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: The entire side sidewalk that is the size the Dallas Cowboys, you could it it's 50 yards wide.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: So as I'm running back this mile and a half back towards the Omni, I see a gentleman that's walking.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: It's courteous of me to kind of to kind of let him know that I'm I'm behind him just to approach because it's early in the morning and it's dusk outside.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: What was that sound?
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Dawn.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm I kind of do a heap, like kind of a hip.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: Is that an East Texas thing also?
20:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just to just kind of uh not familiar with that in North Texas.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I'm I'm kind of hipping at him to to kind of give him a heads up that I'm coming.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: I can't tell he's got earbuds in.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: So as I'm kind of running, he's not yielding to my yipping.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: He's not yielding to my yipping.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: So there's a park and there's a pond to my right.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: Traffic's on my left, pond to the right.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: He's not he's not acknowledging my yipping.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: So I don't want him to get frightened as I make the approach.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, he's not he's not an acknowledging.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: So as I approach him, he looks to my I startle him as I approach.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, he's on the very edge of the sidewalk, and there is a very steep drop-off to this pond.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, as this as I as I approach, I want you to picture this.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: As I approach, it startles him and he's he's he drops off this this steep embankment.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: When you yipped, he yeeted.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, and so he begins to fall.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: And so as he's falling, he reaches out to me and he begins to fall, and so I attempt to grab him, and so it looks like we're punching each other.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: And he begins to fall down this embankment.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
21:38
SPEAKER_00: It scares the shit out of me, and then he's mentally challenged to make this worse.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: He had earbuds in the whole time.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm trying to grab him, and he c he's trying to he fights me.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, I had no choice.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: I just I just run off.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: And uh 'cause I I'm trying to grab him as as he's falling down the embankment.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Fled the scene.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, I had no choice.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: So he's fighting me as I'm as I'm trying to help him.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: So I was just like, well, shit.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: So I just get I just ran back to the hotel.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: So I I grabbed the first first I had no phone, nothing.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: The first Frisco cop I come to.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, listen, and I've got a TMPA, huge TMPA shirt on.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: I said, let me tell you, let me tell you, I'm I'm almost in tears.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, listen, my name is Tyler Owen.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: I work at Marshall Police Department.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: I work for TMPA.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: This is what happened.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: And he just looks at me and he said, What in the hell is wrong with you?
22:37
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I didn't assault that guy, but I promise you, if you get a call of a guy running that assaulted a man that was walking running, anyway, that was my first Frisco experience with a Frisco Cup.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: No, but anyway, that's my that's my Frisco foot.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Played the scene, locked his keys in his truck.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a new one for me.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: I yep.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yep.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: All right.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Moving along.
23:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so uh started out in patrol.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I started out in patrol in Frisco.
23:11
SPEAKER_03: I wasn't actually didn't do that very long.
23:13
SPEAKER_03: I had to do field training.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: We we uh tend to have guys that come with experience and we're like, hey, you're out, you know what to do, let's go.
23:20
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna be in field training officer now because uh we we're cycling folks.
23:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, you'll be on off the street a couple uh a couple of days and then uh you're going to a specialized position.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: Amigo's making his appearance here.
23:32
SPEAKER_03: Hey, what's up?
23:33
SPEAKER_03: He wants to remind us that he's here.
23:34
SPEAKER_03: He hurt my yip.
23:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's that's probably very, very accurate.
23:40
SPEAKER_03: So uh anyway, I moved into our community services division not long after I you know hit the street.
23:48
SPEAKER_03: And what exactly does that?
23:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously community services division.
23:52
SPEAKER_03: I like to call it the junk drawer of the police department.
23:54
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, it's kind of uh anything that needs to be assigned something that doesn't have a place to go goes to that office.
24:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh we served as the PIOs, so public information officer.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: We did the you know the media stuff whenever stuff happened.
24:07
SPEAKER_03: We'd show up on scene and do the spot-on interview there.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh we did you know the planned interviews and all that.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: Social media, real big at the time.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: And actually, that when I first got into that unit, um, y'all mentioned Aaron Slater on here a lot from Relentless Defender.
24:24
SPEAKER_03: He was teaching a uh social media class for police officers because he had gotten had a lot of success with that at his agency.
24:32
SPEAKER_03: And so I had attended that class and it helped us a lot.
24:36
SPEAKER_03: Great class.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: He was a great class.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: Learned a lot from that.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: Um Thank you, Aaron Slater.
24:42
SPEAKER_03: Little mention.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh so we we had that uh under our belt there, Twitter and face Facebook and all that stuff for the for the police department was under us.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: But then anything and everything you can think of.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh programs for the community.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: So Citizens Police Academy.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm a huge fan of that program.
25:01
SPEAKER_03: It's uh basically bringing in folks that volunteer to come and sit for you know seven or eight weeks one day, you know, in the evening, and learn about different divisions in the police department.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: Learn about where their tax dollars are going, what they're doing.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: They do it for the fire department, they do it for us.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: Um I think it's a great way to engage the community to help them have an understanding through our lens, not through their lens, but through ours.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: We hated writers at Garland back in the day.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Um I show up on Deep Nights one night, Chief said, Hey, you got a writer, congratulations.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, thanks what I do for that.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: He said it's a lady that's getting into Citizens Police Academy and she hates the police.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Great, sweet, this is gonna be awesome.
25:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, we get in the car, clearly she hates the police, and her son had been arrested, and it's a good busy night.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: First call we go to, guys like Spitnami or something, and we leave the call and she's like, Why did you not rip his head off?
25:58
SPEAKER_01: I was ready to rip his freaking head off.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: A couple calls later, I sack a girl up for PI or family violence, and all the way to the jail, you know, she's chirping and talking about my family and my kids and you know, everything under the sun.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I've got it tuned out, and I'm looking at my rider, and she's smoking mad.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: And we clear the jail and she goes, How'd you not slap that frickin' bitch?
26:22
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, because we can't.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: She's like, I wanted to punch her in the face, and I said, Yeah, I would love to do that, but the fact of the matter is we can't do it.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: And I went from did not want any part of her riding along with me.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: By the end of the night, she loved the police, and when we left, got off duty the next morning.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: She goes and found my lieutenant.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: She's like, I would have been fired about six times last night because I wanted to whip everybody's ass.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: Y'all are doing a good job, and y'all, it was it was the most turning around experience for I think for her and me.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think the Citizens Police Academy is a great way.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: And that was before she even attended the class, it sounds like so.
27:00
SPEAKER_03: That's I mean, that's that's a great experience.
27:02
SPEAKER_03: And I see folks, we're on our, I think we just passed our 50th class that we've had.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, we do a couple a year.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, so I got to be a part of, you know, let's just say eight of them or so that I was in charge of.
27:13
SPEAKER_03: And I run into those folks still to this day.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: They they are huge supporters of us, you know, they they come out and go to all our events and you know, shake my hand.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: On behalf of TMPA, thank you for doing that.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: Because here's why.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: By you doing that and you showing interest in in doing it, it helps us and it helps this profession, but it also helps even in Austin, that this this session is going on right now, and the bullshit and the anti-police rhetoric, you showing interest in doing it, you just had a 50th class, and if more law enforcement officers would have an interest in it, it combats what's going on just down the street from here.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: So there's 80,000 cops in Texas, and if more of us would do that, more of us would show interest in it, then it would help out the anti-police rhetoric.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, and if y'all turned out 50 classes and say there's 20 people in a class, we we have a whole lot more supporters now than we did.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did uh I think it was in 2017, but I I did a reunion uh event when I was in there and just tried to gather as many of the former classes as I could.
28:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's cool.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: Went back and looked through all the old photos.
28:21
SPEAKER_03: We take a class photo with everybody, and so it that was a neat event.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, just see some of the folks that have been from the original classes uh that still were interested in coming to participate.
28:30
SPEAKER_03: So and things had changed drastically since they were in the program their first time.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: So how long did you spend in the community?
28:37
SPEAKER_03: I was in that for about four years.
28:40
SPEAKER_03: Um I did I picked up some ancillary task.
28:43
SPEAKER_03: Um, because if you know anything about policing, if you can do something extra, you're gonna get that job, right?
28:50
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, we got these guys that teach firearms and teach, you know, you know, holding a shield and holding, you know, breaching shotgun, whatever it is, and they they have all these different tasks.
28:59
SPEAKER_03: And so I had a lot of ancillary duties when I was doing that.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: And I had also taken up being the local president for our police association at the time.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: And that was kind of my big delve into really getting engaged with TMPA um and learning the landscape of all those, I guess, the the interactions with our you know, local government and with our members.
29:22
SPEAKER_03: And I become very passionate about our members.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: I I obviously don't serve as the president currently, but I serve as like a new member liaison.
29:31
SPEAKER_03: So I go to all the new orientation classes and sign up all our guys.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: The first thing I tell them, I don't care if you sign up for my local association, but you will sign up for TMPA before you leave here today.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: That's that there's no ifs, hands, or buts about it.
29:43
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I I tell everybody and go around when I interact with folks from other states, like we have the best legal plan uh hands down, and I doubt that.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: And that's why you know my my new folks, they they don't have a choice, they're getting signed up.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: That's Garland left another organization in in 09, and we did our due process because we didn't care what their name was, we wanted the best legal plan, and that's that's what led us led us here.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: And and I've heard time and time again stories, and my dad's told me stories of his officers being in critical incidents and uh Dick Brock, rest his soul.
30:18
SPEAKER_03: My dad called Dick Brock one night and said, Dick, I need you here.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: We have uh officers been in a shooting, and there was somebody there in a heartbeat.
30:27
SPEAKER_03: The other officer involved in the incident had another organization and they weren't there.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: So probably still waiting for their testament to to the to that.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, awesome.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
30:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: So um I guess transitioning to canine.
30:43
SPEAKER_03: So I I I guess I could back up a little bit.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: When I was at Farmers Branch, I actually had the opportunity to go and I was a decoy.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, that sounds like fun.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: But decoy, for those who don't know, is a chew toy.
30:55
SPEAKER_03: That's what that means.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Did you always have an interest in being a canine officer?
30:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, is that kind of what well kind of the decoying was kind of my first delve into that.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: And it makes you either really interested or completely disinterested.
31:08
SPEAKER_03: I say that, but there's some canine handlers that don't have anything to do with it still to this day, even if they are a canine handler.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, it uh Plano at the time uh trained with Farmers Branches Canine, and we had one dog at the time.
31:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh his name was Kilo.
31:23
SPEAKER_03: And everybody always remembers the dog's names, by the way.
31:26
SPEAKER_03: So if you remember Amigo, you don't remember my name, that's okay.
31:28
SPEAKER_03: So I'm used to that.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: Um, but Plano trained with our place, uh, Addison, Richardson, and uh, I believe Collin County Sheriff's Office.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: They all trained together.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: And so the handler at the time, he said, Hey, you know, we need somebody to come out here and and be our chew toy for us, you know, and learn what up.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: So that was my first delve into this whole deal.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: I hadn't been around police canine much or anything.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, so you know, I started showing up every week.
31:56
SPEAKER_03: My uh lieutenant at the time was supportive of it.
31:58
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Hey, go out there and help him out.
32:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I started going and putting the big suit on and uh getting bit, coming home with bruises all up and down my arms every day.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: And I still got pictures from way back then of of all those bruises that I had.
32:13
SPEAKER_03: But um so that was really I mean it kind of just lashed on.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Well, when he retired, they opened the canine position there at Farmers Branch.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, I didn't have the time in yet, so I missed that opportunity.
32:25
SPEAKER_03: Um and then when I left to go to Frisco, you know, they didn't have a dog program, so I kind of just went by the wayside or whatever.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: Um oddly enough, that guy that took over, he just retired his dog year before last.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: So I I would just now have had the opportunity, and they actually haven't even filled the spot yet.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: Still wouldn't be a canine if I was still in Farmers Branch.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Have you ever decoyed?
32:48
SPEAKER_00: I have.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: Once by in a in second, a second by accident during a foot chase.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, accidental decoy, yeah.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that wasn't fun either.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: My only experience, we were at Nayman Forest High School, and they said, Hey, go go lay a track down and uh go run off in the woods and do whatever you can to throw the dog off, and we'll we'll stay in the school.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: So I ran out the back, and there's a huge green belt, and I ran around trees and I moonwalked backwards and did jump and jacks.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: I was trying to do everything I could to like throw down a weird track.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: I was literally like walking over cars and doing whatever I could to try and throw them off.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: So I go hide in the dark and they're backlit.
33:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking out at the school and I'm way deep in the woods.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: They do the announcement, Garland Police, we're gonna release the dog if you don't come out, Garland Police, and I'm like, dude, they're gonna it's gonna take that dog 30 minutes to find me with all the shenanigans I did.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: And they were doing an off-leach search of the of for me.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: And I had a sleeve only.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: And after I hear him give, I think, two announcements, I see him take the leash off and I look and I'm like, he's not he's not moonwalking and circling trees three times backwards like I did.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, holy shit, it looks like he's running straight at me.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: He's running straight at me.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: And he freaking launches.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: He never slowed down.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, that was not all that fun.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: That was not that was not all that fun.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: He just immediately rocket launched, fur missile straight at me and knocked me down and chewed me up, and and I had volunteered for that.
34:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I still, I mean, yesterday we were at canine training and I was uh doing some bite work with a dog and I had the the sleeve on.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: And you know, if you haven't worked with a dog before, it's still kind of like you know, you gotta figure the dog out because they're all a little different, you know, they bite differently, yeah.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: Especially when they get a halt of you.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because then it's like you feel the power, yeah, and you're like, oh wow, there's a lot more here than I thought.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: And I thought a sleeve would just be like I have a dog on my arm.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: You feel the pressure.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is it's a different deal if you've never done that.
35:02
SPEAKER_03: We we were doing a demonstration.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm real big on our folks at RPD, knowing what our dogs are capable of.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: So I was uh with all the school resource officers in an in-service, and I was showing them, you know, these are all the capabilities of Amigo and our and our other dog, Breston.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: And I said, uh, you know, here's a bite.
35:20
SPEAKER_03: So we had a decoy come in.
35:21
SPEAKER_03: I did a little short bite session, and I and I want to show these guys, hey, you know, I lay the dog down on the ground with the person while they're biting them.
35:28
SPEAKER_03: I can come up there and you can handcuff the person.
35:31
SPEAKER_03: Don't have to worry about the dog coming off and biting.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: They're only interested in in this person that they're apprehending.
35:36
SPEAKER_03: The flavor of the day.
35:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:38
SPEAKER_03: And so we were doing this drill, and the decoy is like, oh, it's a it's a good bite, you know, I can feel it good.
35:43
SPEAKER_03: I was like, cool, you know, I'm I'm proud of Amigo.
35:45
SPEAKER_03: So we get done, he takes the jacket off because it's a two-piece suit, and there's blood running down his arm.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, and I go look and there's a hole there.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, oh, even with the bite suit on, the teeth still sometimes go through that material.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: So he he we had to take him to the emergency room, get cleaned up, but he was all right.
36:05
SPEAKER_03: He's got a little scar there now.
36:07
SPEAKER_03: Chicks dig scars.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: So, anyway, so that was my first like real real experience into it.
36:13
SPEAKER_03: And then while while I was at Frisco 2015, um, they had a church that donated some money for us to start a program.
36:19
SPEAKER_03: And there was an officer there at the time that had been interested in doing it, so he started it up, got all the you know, policies and uniform design, all this stuff, and got a dog selected, and they went and did that whole dance.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so you know, I was still like, I'm not gonna have an opportunity to do this.
36:36
SPEAKER_03: They decided to expand the program, and I technically would have been eligible that time.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: And I passed it up because I had just started in the community services division.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: I felt like I had, you know, some obligation to do what I had said I would do, and so I, you know, I was like, I'm gonna do this.
36:52
SPEAKER_03: So I missed that opportunity.
36:55
SPEAKER_03: As I got further and further in, they opened it up for another position because the original handler that started our program went to the fire department and started a bomb dog program there.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: So I was like, okay, this is give it a little thought.
37:12
SPEAKER_03: So a couple of things that would have to happen.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: I was on SWAT at the time and I would have had to get off SWAT because they trained the same days, it's a lot of extra ancillary commitments.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: Um so I was kind of hesitant about that.
37:25
SPEAKER_03: I really liked the team environment.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: I liked all my guys I trained with.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: And uh so I was like, I don't really know if I'm gonna do it.
37:32
SPEAKER_03: And I let it pass.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: I didn't apply.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: So come to find out, the guys that put in, they uh they weren't eligible.
37:40
SPEAKER_03: So they reopened the spot again.
37:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this has been a matter of a few months, and I told my wife, I said, I look, there's something, you know, it's is talking to me at this point.
37:49
SPEAKER_03: There's been something that's you know been around me for my my most of my life now in this career, and so I'm I'm gonna take the opportunity.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: And so I went and talked to the SWAT commander.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: I said, Hey, you know, he was oddly enough over the canine program at the time, and I was like, this is what I'm gonna do.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: Am I in fact gonna have to get off the team?
38:04
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Yeah, probably.
38:05
SPEAKER_03: So I went ahead and put my name in the hat, and I I ended up being the only one.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, wow, didn't have a lot of competition.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: That increases your chances, yeah.
38:14
SPEAKER_03: Just had to pass a physical fitness test and and the oral board by myself, you know.
38:19
SPEAKER_03: So um, but anyway, so I I got the position and um what happened during that time, the handler that had left, um, and this this leads me to this because anything involving canine is drama.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: Just just so you know, a heads heads up.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: But uh the handler that left, they kindled his dog with a trainer that we were at we were with at the time, and the dog had a medical episode.
38:43
SPEAKER_03: Have you ever heard of a flipped stomach or uh or bloat?
38:46
SPEAKER_03: That's what happened to our to our dog there.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: His name was Boris.
38:49
SPEAKER_03: And so in August of 2019, he he died of of a twisted stomach.
38:54
SPEAKER_03: Real bad thing.
38:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that a lot of the vets say, you know, if it if it happens and they're on the operating table ready, they sometimes they won't survive it.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: So it's it's a bad deal.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: So he he uh unfortunately passed, and so we had to wait because dogs are at the end of the day, they're police department property, so they're insured and all that kind of stuff.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: So we had to go through that whole process.
39:16
SPEAKER_03: And so it wasn't until February of 2020 that I actually finally was like, hey, you're going to canine handler school.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: So I get there to my school, and the first three days they had paired me up with this dog as a female dog, and they kind of evaluated and they're like, you know what, this isn't gonna, we don't think this is gonna work out as a police dog.
39:37
SPEAKER_03: So I want you to go to the kennel, and you're gonna get this dog, it's like fourth down from the the line, and I was like, okay, what's the dog's name?
39:45
SPEAKER_03: And he said, the dog's name's Amigo, and I was like, You can't be serious.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: And the the funny thing about that, like I told you my mom's from South America, her family is, and so I'm I'm bilingual.
39:56
SPEAKER_03: We were raised speaking Spanish and English and in the household, and so I'm like, you know, of all people, they're gonna pair up a dog named Amigo is gonna be me.
40:05
SPEAKER_03: This half Colombian guy, yeah, exactly.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, so I go to the to the kennel.
40:10
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of a sad deal because my wife already had gotten attached to this other dog.
40:15
SPEAKER_03: Her name was Artemis, and so Belgian also.
40:18
SPEAKER_03: She was a Belgian, a little skinny thing, and so I go basically put her in the the kennel next to Amigo and get him out, and he's like, Oh, you're you're freeing me.
40:28
SPEAKER_03: And he hadn't been in the country very long, he had come from the Netherlands, and you're Colombian.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
40:35
SPEAKER_03: And so uh I I get him out, put him in my car, give him a couple kibble, you know, and he's like, All right, so here we go.
40:41
SPEAKER_03: And he's and he's dirty, he's been, you know, it's an outside kennel.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: He's covered in dry poop and you know, he's just been living outside.
40:49
SPEAKER_03: He smells like a dog.
40:50
SPEAKER_03: And so we go and do a couple of tests on him, they're like, Yeah, this is gonna probably be your dog.
40:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, I take him home.
40:57
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's February.
40:59
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I know sometimes it may be like 90 degrees in February here, but it was it was actually cold that day.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: And so I'm like, I've gotta bathe this dog.
41:07
SPEAKER_03: I I'm not gonna leave him in this condition, but I'm not gonna bathe him outside either.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: We just met, you know, I'm not gonna have that be our first interaction, throwing a cold uh water hose on him.
41:18
SPEAKER_03: So I was I told my wife, I was like, I don't really know what to do.
41:21
SPEAKER_03: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna put some shorts on, I'm gonna get in the shower with this dog and just take a chance.
41:26
SPEAKER_03: And and she she films this and videos this interaction, and we have pictures of it.
41:32
SPEAKER_03: But so I put him in the shower and and here we go.
41:36
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I just hope this works out.
41:39
SPEAKER_03: Because I mean, he didn't have any commands.
41:41
SPEAKER_03: When I got him ego, he he could poop and pee, and that was about all he knew how to do.
41:46
SPEAKER_03: And so I go to hosing him off, and it's all this brown water, you know, whatever, warm shower, but um, but he stood there, just looked at me, got him all set it up, and uh then that was it.
42:00
SPEAKER_03: Didn't bite him off, didn't bite me.
42:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I got this lavender soap, so I was like, maybe it'll calm him a little bit.
42:05
SPEAKER_03: So um, but we have we we got him up, and then he and I have been together ever since.
42:11
SPEAKER_03: How long's Handler School?
42:12
SPEAKER_03: It's usually about four weeks, which to me is like thinking back on that, like what I everything I've invested now time-wise in this dog, that just is not a lot of time.
42:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it's Utah.
42:24
SPEAKER_03: If you go up there, they have like a 12 or 16-week program, which to me seems more reasonable.
42:29
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's I meet some handlers and they've been police officers two years and they have a dog, and I'm like, I can't imagine.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, it's not sometimes not their fault, but it's what they have to deal with.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: But I've you know, I've been in law enforcement for many years now and have some experience, and it's it's stressful to have a dog and have to do your job.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, you bring up a good point, you know, an 18-month, two-year officer, two and a half-year officer, you're still trying to figure out how to take care of you in this job, yourself in this job, and figure the job out.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: Myself's a dog, yeah.
43:05
SPEAKER_01: And when you take on that dog, your div your attention's divided.
43:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's a full-time partner that you're having to take care of also.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: So if you're still if you're still new enough to the job, you're trying to figure out how to do it yourself.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: Now you've got to worry about a partner and what's he doing, or what's is his attention divided.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: And I can imagine the OJT really is so important because you know, I never understood when we were on a track why the canine handler was adamant that he have cover officers.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: And it was finally explained because the canine is only watching his dog.
43:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he has to have somebody watching for him because he can't.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, damn, I never that never crossed my mind.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: I never thought about that.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm I think there's probably some folks out there that do some cowboy stuff and do it by themselves, but I would never do that if I have the opportunity.
43:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, if I if I have a say so in it, which I I do, I'm I'm gonna have somebody with me.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, and you reading That dog is the reason we're on the track and head turns and the subtle things that you know the dog does that I'm not gonna know, or you nobody, another other officer in the department's gonna know because you know your dog, and is he if he does a subtle head turn or what whatever is whatever you notice about his personality, and you've got to be completely tuned into that when it's a track on an armed suspect or huge important.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:29
SPEAKER_03: The one the one problem with with my handler school is it ended in March of 2020.
44:34
SPEAKER_03: So COVID.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, gosh.
44:38
SPEAKER_03: So that was my first year as a canine handler.
44:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you what, it was tough.
44:43
SPEAKER_03: It was tough for me just because I was like everything when whenever I took over dog handling, everything I do now, even to this day, I want to win for for my partner.
44:53
SPEAKER_03: I want amigo to like get all the accolades, I want him to get all the success stories.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: And so it's it's everything.
44:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm always like, man, I want this for Amigo.
45:01
SPEAKER_03: And when we got out of out of there, and it's like, yeah, shut down.
45:04
SPEAKER_03: There's nothing going on here.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: You know, we we'd had a few calls throughout the year that year, but you know, it was very minimal.
45:10
SPEAKER_03: A lot of training at work, me and the other handler.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so we were kind of glued together.
45:16
SPEAKER_03: We were, you know, he and I were trying to separate because he was a more experienced handler, and we're trying to separate to have a dog on each end of the week, and it just, you know, wasn't the time yet because of the because of COVID.
45:25
SPEAKER_03: Looking back on it now, though, I got more time to do training on a tracking, so which I'm he goes really good at.
45:32
SPEAKER_03: Um and so I mean, I guess I'm thankful for that, but it's still I was you know chomping at the bit to get to work with this dog.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: How many hours a week because I mean obviously you're compensated for one hour a day.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: Was it one hour a day that canine handlers are compensated for?
45:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's but the reality, I mean, if you could really put pen to paper, how many hours a week do you really honestly do a day?
46:02
SPEAKER_03: So like I'm allotted once a week to go to maintenance training, so that's part of my work work week.
46:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh so every Tuesday we we meet up, a group of us, and we train.
46:10
SPEAKER_03: We do, you know, different days.
46:11
SPEAKER_03: That was what we were doing yesterday.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: It's usually on Tuesdays.
46:15
SPEAKER_03: And um, but so that's a bad day for crime to happen in in the cities that we're in, usually.
46:20
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's uh we had uh a seminar I think it was probably the week that I talked to you initially, yeah, whenever Tony had approached me about coming on.
46:30
SPEAKER_03: And uh we had a burglary in progress, these guys stole some guns and ran.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: And we had just had Clay Lacey from DPS um come and talk to our group about perimeters and all this stuff.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Clay.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: That guy is a law enforcement superstar.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: He sure is.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: He's he's taught me a lot.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh and Amigo's gotten to ride in the helicopter with me too a couple of times, yeah.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: So uh, but anyway, so we had just had this class and we had these guys run in Frisco and they take off running.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: And we have, you know, 20 dogs there from around them from around the area.
47:04
SPEAKER_03: So three of us, you know, hightail it over there and and start helping with the perimeter, and and um one of my my other dog uh team, uh Colton and Breston, they uh they actually spooked the guy and made him run and they were able to get the guy in custody.
47:18
SPEAKER_03: I was like, pick a bad day to run and hide.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Because we have plenty of dogs here to be able to get you.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: So but uh but that was uh once we got past that first year, the work picked up and you know we've been uh running and gunning really ever since.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: 90s it was hopping and garland and occasionally we had four dogs back then, occasionally there'd be a Friday or Saturday night where y'all were all out of town or all the canines were tied up, and it was almost like being a little kid and being home without your parents.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: It was a weird, it was a it was not a comfortable feeling because when if if there was a dog on duty and we had a foot chase, a car chase, you know, barricaded, you know, like in a alarm and we knew somebody may be inside, we knew they were gonna get caught.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: We knew they were gonna get tracked, we knew they were gonna get found, we knew it it was really comforting having a dog on duty.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and and you didn't think about it until you guys aren't there, not available.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: Hey, we have canon available.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: No, nope, no canon available.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, we're gonna have to figure something else out.
48:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're they're an invaluable locating tool.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: And and I and I guess I haven't finished my point with you too about the training.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: So it's really non-stop.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: Like I mean, I get up every day and we we go and do our obedience training together, you know, we go on exercise.
48:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's it's always something going on.
48:44
SPEAKER_03: He's always with me.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: Um my situation's a little different in my house.
48:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and and we'll get into that, I guess.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: About the dog lives with me, but uh, I don't have any kids or anything, so he's he's probably got a little more freedom than some dogs would, you know, if you had kids around the house or whatever it may be.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Um But I think it's important for the listeners to understand the commitment because people think y'all just roll around with a good looking dog, and that's you know, that'd be easy, man, just rolling around with a friggin' cool dog and taking him to the vet, ensuring he's always, you know, taken care of, ensuring he doesn't get out and bite a neighbor.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, there's a lot goes on to taking on that partner.
49:24
SPEAKER_03: When I first found out I was gonna be doing canine, I'd built a board-on-board privacy fence.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: It was the first thing I did.
49:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh because the the city came and installed uh a run out in the backyard and there's a doghouse, and I was I always laugh, but I tell everybody, you know, Migo's from Frisco, he's well taken care of.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: He's got air conditioning in his doghouse.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: So um well, I'll be honest with you.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've I mean, I was stupid back when I started in law enforcement.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: You were to think You do not know who you were.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Was okay was all right.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Um you know, I had the mindset that canine guys just, you know, they didn't do shit.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: That they were, you know, uh they weren't on patrol, they were gifted, you know.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh that they didn't do they didn't do anything, I mean because you don't you they'll y'all y'all canine guys didn't have to answer patrol calls.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: They they're you know they they were catered to by the administration.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: But then you really look and as you mature in your law enforcement career, you really start looking at really what they do.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, they they they bounce they they're they're structured in the swing shifts, so they're not they're working in the balance with with day shifts and and and and evening shifts.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: They're working all the time.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: They are not responsible for troll calls because they're supplemental to patrol.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: So I mean there's there's things that they do, and and I was I was ignorant, you know, as a young patrolman.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm trying to really push push what I'm what I'm asking you to really dive into really how much y'all really work.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: Whenever I I didn't see him at work whenever I was whenever I was on patrol was was because they were at training with other canine handlers from other agencies and they were not in the city that I worked at then.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh they were at other cities working or training.
51:13
SPEAKER_03: So Yeah, and that's our experience too.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: Like we normally the the trainer that we have is a police officer in a nearby city, and he we usually are in that area because our equipment's over there.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: Right.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: You know, so you know that those guys that I work with see that.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: But you know, we've educated them.
51:28
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey, you know, if you need us, we'll come over there.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: And I've I've done that.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: I've loved training and we'll come and go to a and then whenever you're not you're not at training, you might be helping another tactical unit that's maybe a search warrant, and y'all may be helping with perimeters or so forth.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: That just maybe y'all or another another unit somewhere else.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: But I I just wanted to touch on that.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, canine's not built to be Monday through Friday day shift, no day shift eight Monday through Friday.
51:49
SPEAKER_03: And there's a there's a place for that, obviously.
51:52
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I mean a lot of our work comes in the dark.
51:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, uh that this dog, what this dog is used for is a locating tool, whether it be for drugs, whether it be for people, articles, you know, any kind of evidence, but that that's what these dogs specialize in, whether they're in the military or in law enforcement.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and so that's how they they keep us safe because they can locate something way before we can.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: The listeners, uh and I don't know the number, and I'm not putting you on a spot, but I was shocked their ability to smell or scent, and I don't know there's some number or there's a term of the ability to smell or whatever, but theirs is like one million times or three hundred thousand times or whatever it is more strong than our ability, or so do you know what I'm referencing?
52:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's there's actually uh kind of delving a little more.
52:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh I like the science of the dog stuff.
52:49
SPEAKER_03: Um Nathan Hall, he uh he works for Texas Tech University, and they actually have an olfactory lab.
52:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh there's three in the the country.
52:59
SPEAKER_03: There's one at Auburn, one in Texas Tech, and then one Florida International University.
53:04
SPEAKER_03: Um and he studied and talks about there's dogs that can smell in parts per million, and then there's dogs that can smell in parts per billion.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: And so you've got dogs with different skill sets that are better than others, you know, and that and that's where you see like the the blood hounds, you know, uh that they use for tracking, uh, because they're they're you know probably up in that upper threshold.
53:26
SPEAKER_03: Um so you you may have two Malinois like Amigo is, uh, and one smells you know does a little better than the other, just just based on that.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: But um, and and kind of piggybacking off that, when they they walk into a place, you know, we talk about oh, it smells like a nice burger or whatever, that they'll smell, we we like to give this adage, they smell the the the patty, you know, they smell the mustard, they smell the mayo, they they smell all the different parts.
53:51
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's that's how they delve through because all these distractors that these folks try to use when they cover up narcotics, uh, you know, we we train with those.
53:59
SPEAKER_03: We'll put those out.
54:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, we'll have all these boxes and we'll have coffee in one and you know, motor oil, and all these different things that folks think that the dogs, you know, will distract them and and then the dog just goes straight to the drugs.
54:12
SPEAKER_01: Golly.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: That's how Clinton is.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: I can smell a hamburger for sure.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: You did that.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did it the other day.
54:19
SPEAKER_01: What's up?
54:20
SPEAKER_00: I farted.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: You said you you could smell like what the lunch, the dinner.
54:25
SPEAKER_00: Be honest.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: We're family.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: I apologize.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh parts per million.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: In talking about the commitment.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: That's not commitment then.
54:40
SPEAKER_03: I'll get your I'll get your segue for you.
54:42
SPEAKER_03: But uh, but yeah, so a lot of folks don't know the dog lives with me.
54:46
SPEAKER_03: Really?
54:46
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
54:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, they think he just stays at the PD.
54:49
SPEAKER_03: I I I think there is the military probably has lent to that, folks thinking, because you know, they that's where they do with with the dogs, they'll have them at a kennel or whatever, and they'll have a kennel master.
55:02
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, unless they're deployed or whatever.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: But you know, in law enforcement, they they live with us.
55:08
SPEAKER_03: And a lot of folks think about that.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: That's important.
55:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's the bond, and that's man, I think that's so important in call out.
55:14
SPEAKER_03: I know you guys are susceptible to call out and we we preach about pack instinct in my my training group.
55:21
SPEAKER_03: That's one of the instincts the dogs have, and and operating as a pack, and that's kind of uh story you're telling about the the dog running by you, chasing a bad guy and looking at you and keep on passing you up.
55:32
SPEAKER_03: That falls into that.
55:33
SPEAKER_03: We train with these guys and they understand the dynamics of you know, if I'm in a stack in front of a door and I've got my dog laying down five people deep, and he's looking around, hears us giving commands to the bad guy, hey, please can't I come out.
55:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, my dog bypasses all those people and goes in, he understands that he's seen that picture before, and that's that's part of that.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: He's like, This is my pack here.
55:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm here to work with them.
55:55
SPEAKER_03: And the same reason that I can go and we engage with somebody and lay them down on the ground, and the dog's not gonna let go and go attack somebody else.
56:02
SPEAKER_03: That's okay, he's apprehending this person.
56:04
SPEAKER_03: So that's part of that pack instinct that we're really delving into.
56:07
SPEAKER_03: When I first got Amigo, he I hand fed him for the first four months.
56:11
SPEAKER_03: Everything he ate was out of my hand, all of his kibble, building that bond.
56:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, that's amazing.
56:17
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
56:18
SPEAKER_01: The stories you're referring to, I'd never been around canines.
56:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, and one of our old canine handlers, Brian Griffith, would bring his dog into lineup at night.
56:27
SPEAKER_01: He'd walk around, let everybody love on him, and we'd always ask him why I did it, and he said he was letting the dog smell us and see us and get to know us and building the pack mentality, which when you said it, it makes complete sense because dogs are pack animals.
56:41
SPEAKER_01: I kind of thought it was cheesy because I was young and thought I knew everything.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: And um, in a car chase one night, out of radio or radio communication didn't work, and guy bells out running down a grass alley out of a stolen car, and I'm chasing him, and uh I hear and I'm like, oh god, the freaking dog's about to nail me and I'm gonna go end over end.
57:00
SPEAKER_01: And I look over and bear's running along beside me, and he just kind of looks me up and down and takes off and launches the bad guy.
57:07
SPEAKER_01: And I ask Griff afterwards why he didn't maul me, and he's like, dummy, because he he knew you, he'd seen you before, smelled you before.
57:16
SPEAKER_01: He knew he knew he knew you weren't the the guy.
57:20
SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, man, that's insane.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: That on the fly a dog in the dark in a strange place is processing.
57:26
SPEAKER_01: Nope, ugly guy, but not the right ugly guy.
57:28
SPEAKER_01: Let me go get that other one.
57:30
SPEAKER_01: And that's crazy how smart they are.
57:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's cool, very intelligent.
57:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
57:35
SPEAKER_03: But so they they come home with us.
57:38
SPEAKER_03: So he's got his place there.
57:39
SPEAKER_03: I have a crate inside the house that he that's where he spends most of his time whenever I'm off and heard too many stories of people breaking into folks' backyard and poisoning dogs and things like that.
57:49
SPEAKER_03: So I've you know, I've got a police car at home and all that.
57:52
SPEAKER_00: So now do you do in my personal, I could see where being too friendly and too loving that there's got to be a balance.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: Do you not agree at home?
58:04
SPEAKER_03: There does, but here's the thing.
58:06
SPEAKER_03: I I tell folks this all the time.
58:08
SPEAKER_03: So whenever I was uh you know in Farmers Branch and I had experience with Kilo, Kilo, they brought him into briefing every day, everybody pet on him, all this stuff.
58:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh, you probably and and actually I was kind of surprised that you said this about your handlers at Garland, but uh there used to be a time whenever there, these these folks were like man eaters, they would call them.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: You know, they were they were at the end of the line barking, they're like, Can't look, don't even look at them in the eye because they're so vicious, you know, or whatever it is.
58:33
SPEAKER_03: And those dogs exist out there.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, but we don't want those dogs in our profession.
58:40
SPEAKER_03: So whenever we go and we we we're gonna go pick a dog out, we're testing them for all these different things, and they're uh what we call environmentals.
58:47
SPEAKER_03: We want to make sure that they they could sit on this table and not freak out, you know, or walk on a slick floor.
58:52
SPEAKER_03: Um, but with that too, we want to check their what's called social aggression.
58:57
SPEAKER_03: And I want to make sure that within that pack that they're not gonna try to attack me if I give them a correction or if I tell them they can't do something.
59:05
SPEAKER_03: Um I want them to be able to go and and lay next to you and not have a problem.
59:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, or if you accidentally step on their tail when we're doing a building search, you know, I don't want them to turn and bite you.
59:15
SPEAKER_03: So we test all those things.
59:17
SPEAKER_03: And so with that goes, you being comfortable around the dog too.
59:23
SPEAKER_03: I'd rather you love on my dog, you know, get some kisses from him or whatever it may be, and give up a little bit of that, you know, aggression, yeah, if you will, how folks will re refer to it.
59:34
SPEAKER_00: Not be so robotic.
59:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I want our folks to feel comfortable.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, and and handlers have told me in the past that even the dog, after a little tenure, understands home time.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: And when I get in that car, like you can see the switch flip, like I'm on duty now.
59:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm at it's it's work time now.
59:53
SPEAKER_03: That there's uh I I follow a lot of canine podcasts in my off time.
59:58
SPEAKER_03: And and I'll I'll actually I want to tell y'all something about podcasts in a second, but I I was listening to this canine podcast, these guys that I follow, and they talked about how you know their stages within getting a new dog.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_03: Like Amigo did sleep outside at times when I first got him, you know, because I've getting to know this dog and all this stuff, and we've slowly transitioned to him being more of an inside dog permanently.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but that took time, you know.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_03: I had to we had to build some rapport and trust and all that kind of stuff.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_03: And um so I I think that that kind of goes exactly what you're saying.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_03: What I was gonna tell you about podcasts, and I meant to say this earlier, is it's funny sitting here with you two because if folks that actually listen to podcasts regularly, I think you become very picky about what you listen to.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_03: Because you know, you're basically like me, you guys are with me in my sitting in my living room, or when I'm taking a shower, I'm listening to the speaker on my you know counter.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_03: And tell Tyler that as I was saying it, I was rethinking what I should say.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_03: But you know, the PIO was coming out, and I was like, I probably shouldn't say that.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, I makes you feel good.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_03: And so it's interesting because you had to build a comfort, I mean, to be able to listen to these stories and things.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_03: And I and I heard you uh I did I listened to your ATO podcast with Joe King.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and it was it was amazing to listen to.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: And I and I've become a fan of Joe because of that and listened to a lot of their podcasts.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_03: That was a good guy, yeah.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_03: And then to listen to you talk with Michaela Burns, who I know from Cops Kids Camp, yeah, and share your stories, like that's been amazing.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_03: So you guys are doing a wonderful job, is what I'm getting at.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh thanks, man.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate that.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: That's what I really meant to get at.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_03: Because it's it takes a lot for you guys to be able to not only start this up, but then start getting all these folks from around the country.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: I think I heard you saying you have people in Ukraine and all over the country, I mean, listening to this thing.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_03: So that's it's amazing.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, appreciate that.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_03: Kudos to you guys.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: That means a lot because you never know if you're doing right or wrong or if it if it's a good thing or a bad thing.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_01: And to hear from you, you said you listened to a lot of podcasts.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_01: We're thankful that you gave it a listen and and to have you on.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_01: That means a whole lot, man.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate that.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of speechless right now.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_01: You you want to talk about your tat, and you said that you have one that means a lot to you.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: I'd like I'd like for you to share with our listeners about that.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'll go back, it's uh 2010, uh, December, and I was uh actually on an overdose call up in the north end of Farmers Branch.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_03: And there was another officer there with me, and I can't remember what the gentleman had overdosed on, but it was something some substance, illegal substance.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_03: And they actually were reviving him as I was there.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_03: Well, during that time the radio comes out and it's uh house fire, structure fire.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_03: And in Farmers Branch, at the time, we we beat the fire department everywhere.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_03: We we would run to hot calls real quick.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_03: So they're usually getting pedicures.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_03: The uh Call of Duty.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_03: Call of Duty.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_03: I actually went to the fire station the other day and they were cooking a roast, and I was like, Really?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_03: In the slow cooker.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_03: It's like, man, it's good treatment here.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_03: But uh so I I heard the call and it said there was possibly somebody trapped inside.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_03: So I was I told my partner, I said, Hey, are you good here?
1:03:38
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the fire department's handling this, you know, dealing with this person.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Yeah, so I'd book it south down the road, and it was in the south end of town.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_03: So I had to go straight down this main thoroughfare.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: It was under construction.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_03: I remember there was another officer that got in front of me.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_03: We were running lights in siren, and there was some cones set up for construction right at this main intersection, and this car cut us off, and you know, I'm giving them the business.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_03: And um so we pull up, and this was before body cameras, so we just had the in-car camera, was all we had.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_03: And I think we had just switched to digital even.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_03: It was right after VHS had come out.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_03: Um God hated VHS.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: Well, I had to erase the tapes when I worked in the jail after the time was over, so I remember doing that.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_03: But so we I come down, I pull up on scene.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_03: The canine officer was actually the first officer on scene at the time.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_03: He had pulled his squad up, and these uh this this end of town had these houses that probably sat on like a half acre lots, they're pretty big, and they're old ranch style houses.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_03: And so I mean, you get there and the whole thing, I mean, smoked up, you can see flames coming out the back of the house.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, this is this is a real fire.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_03: And um so I see him and he's at this his squad car, which we'll talk about in a little while too, I'm sure.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_03: But his squad car is directly in front of the door, it's the door's open, and he's looking inside, yelling.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_03: And so me and the other officer, we both pull up there, run up, and they're both yelling and screaming, and I I get down on all fours and I look down and the smoke's all the way to the ground.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, so you can't see anything in there.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_03: So I look and I'm like, I start coughing because the smoke's coming out.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_03: I look over and I'm like, that's the front door.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_03: This isn't the front door.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_03: There's another door on the side that's got like a walkway up to it, but it's actually facing to the the for you, SWAT guys, the B side of the house, the Bravo side.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_03: And so I said, That's the door, that's the door.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_03: Well, these two guys go over, and and Tyler, I was I was a little bigger than you were at the time.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_03: I was probably about I was pushing 270 probably at the time.
1:05:49
SPEAKER_03: Um so they try to open the door, kick it, or whatever, and they can't.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, get out of the way.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_03: So I I barrel down the little walkway and I shoulder the door, and you Hear the the deadbolt fall down.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_03: Cling, cling, cling.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I distinctly remember that sound.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, okay, the door's open, but the door won't move.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_03: So I keep pushing, I keep pushing.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, the person's on the back side of this door.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_03: So we finagle that door, push it open enough, and we're able to grab hold of her, and we drag her out and pull her into the front yard, probably about 30 feet from the front door and in the grass.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't a few seconds later, this flash fire comes out of the front of that door where I where we were standing.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_03: Because we had just filled that area with all that oxygen.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_03: So I go and she's not breathing.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_03: She's half dressed.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_03: She was using the restroom at the time when this all started.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_03: And she was in her 80s.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_03: Well, what I didn't know at the time is her husband was standing outside there, right by where we were in a robe.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_03: And so he's coming over to us, and we, you know, we're starting to assess.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_03: It's just us officers still on scene.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_03: And we're like, okay, we gotta start CPR.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_03: Because she's not breathing.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_03: And he's leaning over as I'll never forget this.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Is she dead?
1:07:16
SPEAKER_03: Just keep saying that.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_03: Is she dead?
1:07:18
SPEAKER_03: You know, and we're like, little first of all, I didn't have a lot of life experience at the time anyway, so I didn't know how to deal with that problem.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I'm just trying to deal with this lady right here.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_03: That's all I know how to deal with.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_03: Ammunition starts going off in the house because of the fire.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_03: Um firefighters start showing up, but the firefighters are going to deal with the fire because the paramedics hadn't quite arrived on scene.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: So we're over there going and going.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_03: Um never were able to revive her.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_03: Um so we sat there and worked on her, worked on her, and I think we swapped my lieutenant at the time came out, he he took a session of of doing compressions, the canine officer, me, we all had our you know, an opportunity, I guess, if you want to call it that.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_03: All the while while her husband's standing over us just watching all this happen.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_03: There was a paramedic that actually lived down the street that came down, and it was the first time I had ever seen anybody take um, I don't even know what it's called, but that little device where they drill into the knee uh for a line.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_03: I'd never seen that before, but I just really remember that because it was, you know, just I was really in the moment, I guess, at the time.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_03: And uh so they finally got the paramedics there, they they work on her.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_03: It seemed like forever.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was it was probably 45 minutes we're on scene just you know dealing with this because there's fire trucks everywhere and the house is fully engulfed.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_03: It's there's uh um I think there was another garage that was off to the side of it too that had caught fire.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: So we uh they load her up and get her out of there, and unfortunately she she didn't make it.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_03: So then I remember we were trying to clear the area for these guys to work on this fire, and I go over and we had been enough in there that we're all like hacking up along.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're coughing like crazy.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I go to move the the canine squad because it was right in front of the house.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was right in the way.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_03: So I made a boo-boo and I almost hit a fireman.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_03: He starts slamming on the back of the trunk when I'm backing up this thing.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_03: I was in the canine squad, like I said, and then I run over a fire hose.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_03: To make it all worse, so I committed the all-time firefighter sin of running over this thing.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, so we we we cleared out of there.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: I got sent home after that.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_03: We were I remember taking a shower and all this black soot coming off of me.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_03: Um and I just remember like every time I cough, it was just black, you know, uh, from all that smoke inhalation.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_03: And I mean I didn't have to be treated or anything.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_03: I got a little oxygen on scene, but it's just one of those things that one of those weird calls that you know make maybe some people chalk up to nothing, but it's always stuck with me.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_03: Um and I would when I still worked there, that they tore that house down and it was a slab for years.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_03: So I'd go by there, you know, every year on the anniversary and just you know go by and just look at it and kind of remember.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_03: Um, and the one of the other officers would always go there with me too.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_03: And so I got a I got a tattoo that's up on my arm up this way, and it's just full of fire.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_03: Um just kind of was a reminder to me about it.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, like I said, it it definitely impacted me.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it impacted me negatively or positively, it's just one of those things I always think about in my career that's um may have been maybe my first I don't even want to call it a critical incident, but it the way I looked at it was I could have been standing at the door when that flash fire came out if we would have taken any longer to get her out.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_03: And I think there was a fireman that told us the marshal said if you would have been in front of that door, you would have been gone.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so that's that's probably one of the things that stuck with me the most about it.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_00: Um I think it's cool that you go back on the anniversary or did whenever you worked at Farmers Branch.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_00: I think it speaks volumes for your character and your heart.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_00: And uh I think it also speaks volumes for your passion for the job.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, and in our non-law enforcement listeners, you know, we're often thought of as robots or stormtroopers or you know, whatever it is.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a great example of somebody that cared.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it affected you, it cared.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't your family member that lost their life, but it affected you, somebody lost their life, and you vividly recall every detail of it, and most people probably don't go through most all people go through life without going through trying to work on somebody that doesn't make it and almost losing their life in in the midst of that.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_01: And fire is a scary ass thing.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: I've only been around one really one one time, fully involved, and I got there and thought, man, this firefighting deal is probably pretty easy.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm not going in a freaking burning building, it scared the shit out of me.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_01: And I commend those that do, and uh it's fire's an intimidating thing to be around.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: The thing I hate the most for her husband, so that they were, like I said, in their 80s, but the fire started in the laundry room with a gas dryer.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_03: And so it was uh in the very back corner of the house, and so it caught fire.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_03: Well, he steps out of the house to get a garden hose, comes back in.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_03: Well, by that time it's already taken off.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_03: So he can't get back through there.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_03: So he goes around to the front of the house, wife's using the restroom, and the door's locked.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_03: And so that's how this all kind of played out.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_03: So when I you know, when I found that story, I was like, Oh, this all kind of makes sense how this all ended up, why he was in the front yard and all that.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_01: So man, that's cool.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_01: I I I think it's hugely important for listeners to see the human side of what we go through and the human side that we're not cold-blooded.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_03: That's interesting for a cop to tell a story about fire, but yeah, yeah.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_01: Man, and as much as we joke about firemen on here, I commend them.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_01: And I've had firemen tell me, well, I'm not gonna run towards gunfire when I'm getting shot at, and I'm like, I'll run towards gunfire every day.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going in a friggin' burning building.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's no you're not there's nothing you could do to make me do it.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_01: I commend the hell out of them.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, I was with one the other day somewhere, and he's like, dude, I love getting involved in a big fire, and I'm thinking, no, I'd rather go get a colonoscopy than go friggin' be near a big fire.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_03: I like getting in the bite suit and taking a bite from my dog.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_03: I don't know anything about those.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm fat and 50s.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_00: You don't know anything about those.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, brother, you got anything else?
1:13:55
SPEAKER_03: No, I mean, I think the biggest thing is from this is, you know, for canine stuff, as far as that goes, it is a lot of work.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_03: It's more work than I ever thought it was gonna be.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_01: It takes I I think it's kind of like SWAT or working child crimes.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_01: You either have the passion or you don't, because it's a commitment.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_01: It is a huge freaking commitment, and it takes people that care, and it's not just a time commitment, you have to care about an animal.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_01: If you're not you don't care about an animal, there's no way you're gonna be able to be in that role.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_03: I would I tell people all the time it's it's the best job I've ever had.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_03: And if I if I have my way, this is all I'll do till I retire.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_03: It's it's amazing.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_03: But there's times this dog walks around my you know, my house.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_03: My wife has long hair down to here, you know, down in the middle of her back.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_03: He's been known to just, you know, he he lays on the floor, his her hair gets in his mouth.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_03: So one day he's out in the backyard, going to the bathroom, and all of a sudden I look out over there and he's walking funny, and there's a piece of poop hanging, swinging, from a hair that he's ingested, and it's clogged up, and I'm like, this is gonna be my job right here.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_03: And I this is what this is this is the canine handler right here.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_03: This is what it is, the glory.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, uh that's that kind of sums it up for me.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_03: I mean, when you come home from a long shift and then there's diarrhea in the crate or whatever, you know, like that's that kind of stuff you gotta deal with.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, it's I'm I'm his advocate.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_03: I like to tell people whatever he needs, I have to make sure it happens.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, and the liability you guys take on every day to ensure his well-being, to make sure when you're out in public, he doesn't get lost or he doesn't bite some citizen not involved.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_01: And it's a it's a huge commitment.
1:15:49
SPEAKER_01: But it's a huge tool, man, because I can't reiterate.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_01: When I was on duty and I would pull up CAD and I'd look scroll down through there and see that there's one or two canines on duty, I'm like, let's get Western, let's get into something good because we got a freaking we got a dog on duty.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_01: It's cool.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't thank you enough for coming on again.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_00: I think uh canines are uh you know underrated and uh greatly appreciated.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_00: I know other patrol guys and uh really every aspect of law enforcement can greatly benefit from it.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_01: So I wish the camera could see because uh he is zoned out.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's conked out.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_00: Is he?
1:16:25
SPEAKER_01: He's all zoned out snoozing.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_00: We'll be adding some a lot of b-roll of amigo.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_01: Amigo.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_00: Well, we usually end every episode, as as you're well aware, uh, with uh three rapid fire questions.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_00: So hit it.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_00: What is your favorite cop movie or line from a cop movie?
1:16:49
SPEAKER_00: Your favorite cop car and favorite adult beverage?
1:16:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm very upset about this first question because up until this point I hadn't heard this answer on the show.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_03: Okay, and then Mr.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_03: Lubbock stole it from me yesterday.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_03: I have a couple of honorable mentions.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_03: End of Watch is a great one.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_03: I watched that movie one time and I'm done.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_03: That's but it's great.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_01: Excellent movie.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_03: Um Super Troopers is funny, you know.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh Rush Hour is a great one.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_03: But my all-time favorite, it's and I think it's because of the way my folks raise me, is Beverly Hills Cop, that he said.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_03: And and my favorite part of that movie is when he goes to visit that girl in in LA, Jenny Summers, and walks in, and the guy, uh Serge, offers to make him an espresso.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Can I make an espresso with a lemon twist?
1:17:40
SPEAKER_03: I love that part of that movie.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_03: That movie makes me laugh.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_01: Yep, that's a good one.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm sorry, but the best cop car is a crown victor.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_01: All day long.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_01: Every day.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we should ask Amigo.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_03: There's an episode in Southland, if you ever saw that cop show.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_03: And there's a fight going on, and they hear the roar of that Crown Vic coming to help them.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_03: There is it gives me goosebumps.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_03: There's nothing like that sound.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_03: It's a workhorse.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_01: It's probably the transmission.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_01: That roar's a transmission going on.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_00: It's a workhorse, dude.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_01: You can't replace it.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_01: You can't.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_01: Most important question though.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_01: Favorite adult beverage.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_03: So I usually am a beer guy.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm really curious about that Angel's Envy that I've heard you talk about, but I uh Yingling Yingling is my beverage.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_03: It's a good one.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_01: I like the new because Yingling makes me feel full like 80 mil.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_01: I like the new flight.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I usually stick with the light myself.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_03: But yeah.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_00: Sweet.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, this has been a good ass episode, man.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_00: Great episode, man.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_00: I greatly appreciate you coming down.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_00: You guys keep up the good work.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_03: Y'all are doing amazing.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_00: Man, greatly appreciate it.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_01: Can't express how much uh that means and and appreciate you saying that for you taking the time to come down and freaking dog is bad.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_01: I love that dog.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like him.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_01: I like them.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, close us up, big dog.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:19:03
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1:19:13
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1:19:22
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1:19:23
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1:19:25
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1:19:33
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1:19:38
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1:19:40
SPEAKER_01: God bless each of you.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_01: God bless uh families traveling to DC and traveling back home after police week.
1:19:47
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