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Draft WR vs OL + What's the Deal with Malik Willis? - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 2/12/26 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dog's Podcast with your hosts, Lake Renaker, Justin Charles, and Josh All.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what's up, everybody?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll come back to another episode of the Dogs Podcast, Josh, all Kenny Mac, hanging out, dog back discord live for the week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Today, we're going to be pretty much talking about whatever you guys want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were saying here just before we started not a ton going on or kind of anticipating a defensive coordinator announcement probably tomorrow we can talk about that here in a little bit as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's some quarterback drama going on which will be the case until September actually probably all the way through the season be awesome with you guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's really ever going to end as far as quarterback drama goes and all that kind of stuff and.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great place to be this morning and last night ended up being like a man therapy session for previously divorced
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny before anybody gets their hand up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How's everything up in Canada?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything you want to get into real quick about the Browns?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, I got lots of snow up here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just had telling you I had massage therapy sessions session.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't really because I'm old, but it is kind of, I had to clean so much snow yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably the two feet snow we had is forfeet in my yard because I got a toss at all there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And some of it, you just can't use a snowblower for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just got to pick at it and...
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[SPEAKER_03]: and get it going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll show that my two guys are going to listen to today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tommy and Johnny, they're going to be listening for the first time tonight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're working with me for what I do and I told them, man, you got to watch us tonight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So once Josh fires this thing all up and gets it looking pretty, these guys will be watching tonight on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll shout out to those guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got Ash and the Joker already with a hand up, just like we requested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's see what's going on Ash.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I was going guys great.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Don't I right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, but shoveling that snow is brutal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, take, take back, take everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's doing a pushup contest now, too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, just like one hurt in unit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was just trying to get a little bit more information on the Corey under underlin.
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[SPEAKER_06]: on one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know he was with us for brief time, but that's about all I know about the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Corey on Lens, so he is the he's currently the defensive passing game coordinator for the Houston Texans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then his history, Kenny, did you have this off top of your head because I can go through it here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to pull it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can pull it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just had a couple of things that I wanted to say about them and then I'll go after you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So before Houston, he was in San Francisco with the 49ers before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was with the Lions and Detroit and then he was with the defensive back for the Eagles from 2015-2019.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was their gym shorts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some familiarity there with Jim Schwartz, what he wants to do, that kind of defensive system he was with the Browns back in 2005, 2005, 2006, he was defensive quality control coach, 2007, he moved to assistant special teams coach and then in 2008 he was the defensive backs coach before he left for Jacksonville the year after that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or was that prejoined?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, look at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I could go ahead and pre-is it not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're looking that up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What I want to say about him is Munkin, if you guys remember, pretty much said he wanted the team to stay fast and aggressive and this guy between
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[SPEAKER_03]: What Josh just said about being with Schwartz and being with Monkton previously, so there's some familiarity there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got man coverage is his foundation, and that's perfect for what we run with our back field, our defense of back field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's got a clean, simple install, so for me I originally went, like in my mind I went with,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jared Mayo, but that's a more complex system, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, he's got a little bit of new England Patriots in him as well, but he's got a front driving pressure which swirched it as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know about the the the wide nine technique.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he likes to drive pressure in with the front four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: DB's play downhill and challenge route.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we got the perfect guys for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is what I've got off him so far.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he will be pretty much as close as you can get to a swirts like defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess without the baggage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and to answer your question, Ash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not overlap with Joe Hayden.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: his first year away from the Browns of 2009 in Joe Hayden was drafted in 2000 and 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whenever he did leave our on-line went to the Jaguars like Kenny said in that's where he worked with Todd Monkin or was on the staff there with Todd Monkin.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so just trying to see if he had any premium feedback that he was coaching up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not that I can think of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wanted to do a little bit deeper dive into that guy, but I'm just not 100% sure they're going to name him yet because there's a couple other names out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got Mike Rootenberg who would in my mind be the next guy that they would possibly do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: if you would hire anybody in-house because they don't have really any experience other than tarver, it's got two years experience calling a defense with the raiders, but I think that was more than a decade ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, well, I guess really all the all the candidates really don't have a lot of play calling, but the guy that munked and seems to be the most comfortable is the guy
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[SPEAKER_06]: And with him being a pesking coordinator, it seemed like our run stopping to still be an issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, with a run, with a run stop, that's a, that's a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, like again, I don't know if he plays that wide nine technique, but lives those, leaves those big gaps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One thing that would help, I mean, obviously when you play that, you really want athletic, defensive tackles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's another guy that we can plan like Malik Collins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to search for him right now if I can find that free agent, throwing him a bushel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: of money, man, because that'll help who's ever to the other side of miles and miles, you know, as well as what we can come back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do we know when Nichols come back?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Malik Collins?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, what was it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forget what his injury was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he should be good to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine for the start of the season, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Seasoned in quad injury, week 13.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine he'll be he'll be back, you know, for week one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I haven't really heard or read where that's, you know, a year-long injury or anything like that recovery time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The lesson was like a complete good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Detachment or something, but I mean, hopefully he comes back because he was fantastic for us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably good here for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see we got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll have to buy you a mason jersey once he makes y'all progress to your brother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Only balls out, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's, uh, you say he's not too high on mason Graham.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's that's the big discord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you guys, for you guys that don't don't are not in the discord, uh, something that we just banner back back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Ashton is not the biggest fan of Mason Graham, but he just wanted more bang for his buck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, sure with that Nick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, I mean, that's a top five pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get that, but we like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We like the razzling a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not like he's bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will say that he could be better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am definitely more in the middle of that argument where I see the potential, I see the flashes and I think he had a good rookie season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was also hoping for a little bit more out of a top five pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it was obviously his rookie season just one year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to see a big jump from Mason Graham in year two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: significant impact on that defensive line because I did not do as much film study during the season as I wanted to like the all 22s after each game and all this stuff just didn't have time, but the one game I really died into was that Patriots game and for the first it was like the first two quarters first two and a half quarters something like that the dude was completely shut out of that game every play that he was in I watched because I was watching specifically for him
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[SPEAKER_02]: on a lot of those defensive snaps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was just completely removed from the play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was blocked every single time, push back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, and that wasn't like game one or two of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was part of the way through the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So not saying he's a bad player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying I'm expecting some growth from Mason Graham.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Aston was saying right in the chat there, he wants to see 5.5 sacks and he wants to see about 10 tackles for losses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's realistic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, based on the way that they push the pocket, hopefully we'll see a couple more sacks than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get Andrew Jackson up here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then just to reiterate before Andrew starts talking, I looked it up here, Emily Collins is expected to be rehabbed from the surgery and be good to go for the start of 2026.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So no worries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great news.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Andrew, what's
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, not much guys was going on to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Kenny, how are you doing bud?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how's it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How's it going, brother?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice hearing your voice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How's it doing all right, man?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you guys meant more from Mason.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he stole Miles EasySack.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Miles is going to have to record three weeks earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even give it to Mason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even give it to Mason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they gave it to somebody else, didn't they?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now they split in two didn't they I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They ended up coming out and saying it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember who it was, but it wasn't Mason Graham, which I thought was weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was the one there to touch it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know whatever, but.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I guess so.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First off, I mean, season's over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We all know kind of this point, but I guess now can follow Sully Focus on the calves.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So hopefully the calves do better now this last home stretch of the season, so give us something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Also enjoy a bit of watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm starting to get into more of the draft.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I pay attention more to college football than I do in a fill outside of the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is there any, I guess, under the radar, sleeper guys that you, before, that you guys are, I guess, interested in, before like some of the other, like, combine other stuff, start kicking off, before it's like the, you know, that identical draft height machine starts to go in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is, I feel like we're, we all kind of know we want at the top of the draft boards, but what do you guys think?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, sleepers, late, middle rounds of the draft
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny, anybody on top of your head will go with, uh, I can go with the full back position Eli hiding right from, uh, the Navy we were talking about him today, and here's my idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This guy's got a seventh round grade right now, it might get a little bit higher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The guy can run the rock, he can catch the ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking of more of, um, uh, the full back like out of, um, uh, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm also thinking of somebody that can really get on our special teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is like a sleeper pick for me because our special teams are so bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I find the biggest thing with our special teams last year is I found they went down, they broke down, the way they're supposed to, but they didn't seem like there was that gunner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The guy that just will come a cause, you go down the field and just run right through somebody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it just seemed like that was Torch was kind of being passed back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: between players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this guy would relish something like that, make, and make that, like, his own is to be on the team that, like, stabilize that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could be 100% wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've done a little bit of research in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Caleb was a guy that mentioned it originally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was today or yesterday was a talk about my days ago by so fast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's my sleeper
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just kind of going through mock draft database kind of see the names that are available in the mid round, mid round range and here at 77 a guy that I know well that's getting no buzz that I've really noticed in at his position is Max Claire out of Ohio State the Titan there's a lot of other Titan names being thrown around not so much him and I think that's because he was a
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[SPEAKER_02]: Almost like third-fourth fit will in that offense for the buck guys because obviously we had Jeremiah Smith.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had Carnell Tate and these other receivers and the running backs and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when they needed Max Clare to make a play this year, I felt like he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm interested in Max Clare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested in Ted Hers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I talked about him the wider receiver at a Georgia State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested in Genesis Smith.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Safety out of Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's projected right now it pick 88 in that range.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of my favorite safety's in this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: draft and then Skyler Bell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys listen the other day, you know, I like him the Wider Seever out of Eucon at 102.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 105 is Barry Shucks guy out of Florida the center, Jake Slotter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be cool to get a Austin barber, the tackle out of Florida right after him at 1111.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's like some linemen that could potentially hold down starter rolls for this offense that you don't need to use a first or second round pick on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I like those names right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like Elyo Rareden from Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking for a guy that can come in, be a third tight end, someone that can block.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a great functional blocker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's also 64, 65, just give me one second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, I got a window pop up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a six-seven, and he's 251 pounds, can get some leverage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, one of the things is, and what I'm looking at is receivers in general, and him as a receiving tight-end, in the red zone, is Monkton says that he likes plays that are kind of like off the or something that you kind of, what's the word I'm looking for, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: off of off-script plays and you know guys that can come down with 50-50 balls are essential for that when they're quarterbacks scrambling so I like Boston who's not a sleeper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like Tate who's not a sleeper but I like this guy at 6-7 throwing them the ball up in the air because we don't have D anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and Andrew Jackson, the chastas Pat Cougan, the Indiana center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, I like that name as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a guy named Jaden Roberts, interior offensive line out of Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's projected to 170.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can I interest anybody?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Blake brought this up the other day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At 168 projected right now is true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Aller the quarterback out of Penn State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Any chance the Browns take a swing on the, what is he mentor?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that where it's from?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I can't remember where he's from, but I would definitely take a swing on that from a five round and under, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's see here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can talk some more draft stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, that'll come up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got J-dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: J-dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
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[SPEAKER_08]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Good dog.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So your answer to my question for the chief, I was kind of upset with that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Just because of all the videos I was looking for Todd Munkin, he was always talking to the chief and practice wherever everyone he was here.
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[SPEAKER_08]: My next question was about J.O.K., and when do you think we'll ever see him again?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Or if we will ever see him again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say, I want to so, Bob, I don't think we will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we do, I'll be a little surprised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be very freaking excited, just like everybody else will be, but those neck injuries man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just not a track recorder or history of guys coming back from those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're pretty much career-enders.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And it's a don't get a post on Instagram talking about he was going to come back, but I was like later on, like it wasn't earlier this season or last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was right before season started and
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a thing, like it's great to have the encouraging hope.
19:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yes, I'm gonna make a comeback from this and I'm gonna be back, but really it all boils down to the doctors.
19:28
[SPEAKER_02]: If he's going to the specialists and the doctors and they're saying, you're next strength, your spinal strength just isn't where it needs to be to play this high level physical contact sport.
19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to.
19:39
[SPEAKER_08]: Dang, that sucks to hear.
19:43
[SPEAKER_08]: But what are you guys saying Chief is gonna go?
19:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see what they've achieved, she's she's she's yeah if I was him though I'd go the 49ers is where I'd go
19:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It gets kiddo's gonna be out for half the season.
20:00
[SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna get playing time.
20:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He can stretch a defense still.
20:04
[SPEAKER_03]: He's athletic, he can block.
20:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows his own scheme.
20:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I would go to a, sorry, San Fran, but from what I said Atlanta originally, not really because of Stephanski, but because that's where I've kind of seen and read, people think he's gonna go.
20:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it's just an easy connection.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Jared says in Joker to Green Bay, I actually thought about that the other night when we were doing the show.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking the packers because they lost Tucker craft at the, it was ACL, right?
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the killers.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was ACL.
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So no idea when he'll be back or when he'll be ready to go full strength and Joker could fit and weld there for them.
20:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I am interested to see.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: how things play out in Atlanta, because Kevin Savansky took a lot of coaches with him that he's previously worked with in Cleveland, and we've got like more free agents leaving this team than any other team in the league I think.
20:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So how many players go to Atlanta, not saying that obviously they're going to offer all the players, you know, opportunity to come down.
21:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I'm just curious to see how things go this year.
21:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't say this about the joke who he wanted to get out of here at in 2000 and was at 19 when Freddy was here and Monkton was here and I'd be honest with you the way in the joke who is I just don't see him liking a straight shooter.
21:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He likes someone more likes to fanski that can kind of make him feel good.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to go there as a chance to go there and I think that's one of the places that he's zooming in on but if I was him I'd still go to San Francisco.
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's if they want him, right?
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause he's got to get the contract off or before he can go.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll free agencies are gonna be fun and that's gonna be here quick.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But Andrew Jackson's back up, what's up, man?
21:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, before since plates night here to the defending himself.
21:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Pile on.
21:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Not so much.
21:55
[SPEAKER_04]: How much next year's he gonna like be like all over the Atlanta Falcon?
21:59
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, isn't we like the biggest fan?
22:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's gonna help, you know, all compare every week and what do you see what Kevin did in Atlanta?
22:08
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm not saying that he's not going to be like Baker pro bad, but he will be, but he's going to be side eye in the lane all next year, and but that's what I know, like how bad you think he's
22:21
[SPEAKER_04]: because I feel like, because you know, he's never wrong.
22:24
[SPEAKER_04]: He's all about all of our ball.
22:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He's never lost.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was going to say.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Blake.
22:29
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think he's going to be absolutely annoying with it.
22:33
[SPEAKER_04]: They might win three games, who knows?
22:36
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's going to reduce his three games.
22:38
[SPEAKER_04]: They look so good.
22:40
[UNKNOWN]: Dude.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: a Blake loves being right more than anything else.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he's going to be fully on board with the Falcons having a great season because he was not for firing Kevin's the fanski did not think he was the problem here.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you guys heard it all season long.
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It was we'd come out and be like, well, we just got stumped by the Titans and we suck in everything and this team's terrible when he'd say, but our priest and that penalties aren't as bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see it's like I said, it's going to be very interesting to see how things play out down there.
23:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah.
23:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's the NFC self, like you're guaranteed at least seven wins there, right?
23:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And ultimately, what you do is if you win seven, then you're probably going to win 11 the next year, whatever it is, right, or I'll just, sorry, 10 the next year.
23:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it just, it's such a flip flop division that everybody kind of does good and bad.
23:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's Baker went there, it was easy, and he's, you know,
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Not really any better than he was here and I feel like it's the same thing's going to happen with the fanski.
23:45
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to go there like he did when he came to the Browns, he'll win 11 games.
23:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll have an off year then he'll probably win another 11 games and then have an off year and that's the way it goes.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got some great, he's got some great weapons and I think he's going to get them the ball and that's going to, you know, one year of that, they'll take this league by storm and then they'll get on what he's doing and they'll be the same old same old.
24:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys don't really change that much through their NFL careers.
24:13
[SPEAKER_03]: They do what they do, right?
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if, you know, he didn't change much in six years here, so I can't imagine he's revolutionizing his approach.
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: All the sudden down there, but oh, it's Brad.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Mr. Money making me go.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's up, bro We were going down.
24:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go down.
24:29
[SPEAKER_05]: We guys We uh, we're chatting about draft stuff.
24:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Are we talking about drafts?
24:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
24:35
[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking about the combine.
24:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Are we talking about free agency?
24:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe so Brown Super Bowl is what you're getting out here
24:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's Brown Super Bowl.
24:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Super Bowl.
24:47
[SPEAKER_05]: We've aroused.
24:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
24:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So, um, I think I caught the end of Jordan's talk about like some of the, and I think Ash was saying like later around, you know, potential quarterbacks we could just draft just to kind of pick the tires out and see if, you know,
25:12
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, what their potential could be kind of thing.
25:16
[SPEAKER_05]: And like, yeah, Drew Raller, he's hurt, but he has the physical potential.
25:21
[SPEAKER_05]: The one guy I kind of really like and I've brought up a bunch is, I don't know.
25:29
[SPEAKER_05]: It's still like in lieu of like, what's going on with the NCAA is Chamberless.
25:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I like really like him.
25:36
[SPEAKER_05]: period of change was problem is is like right now is kind of projected the late second early third middle third somewhere around in there if we want to waste that pick on him.
25:54
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'd like to have them, but you know, I don't think that's
26:00
[SPEAKER_05]: A good idea to pick him and rather pick a guy later that has a more like some potential but he needs to like just sit for a while kind of thing.
26:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, if I don't even know what the future of doing Gabriel is right now.
26:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if he's giving me on the team.
26:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if he's going to get cut.
26:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if he's going to get traded to somewhere.
26:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know about him right now.
26:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't give you that as a more of a pocket passer and that's not really what Monkids looking for based on what I've heard in press conferences and that kind of thing Wait, who's a pocket passer Gabriel?
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, because what Andrew just was busting in the chat there Brad he said Brad's loving a short QV don't we already have Dylan Gabriel Chambers is not very big I will say he's athletic he's athletic for sure
26:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought he was like 6162.
26:58
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's maybe 616.
27:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like 510.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he not always a really?
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but he looked taller when I was watching a TV.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the thing.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he would have to go really measure and because like, he has spans.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He got him at 61200.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not very big.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And we all know how that goes here's Ole Miss has met six foot 200.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they had Dylan Gibroit six foot 200 last year and he's diving into the lake.
27:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know me as a family.
27:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, James looked taller than Dylan Gibro, but that's just, that's just me.
27:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I know Drew Owler's tall.
27:40
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, what, six, five.
27:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
27:42
[SPEAKER_05]: He's big kids.
27:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, yeah.
27:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
27:44
[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe that's a better option than, you know.
27:48
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think we're going to have by time trading camp starts.
27:52
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have at least a minimum of four quarterbacks.
27:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Again,
27:59
[SPEAKER_05]: because like Todd Monkin said it and you're very even said it in the press conference is recently that they're going to not only compete in the in the building, they're going to bring outside competition.
28:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So what that looks like, do we go after Milliequels?
28:19
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, but he's like, we can afford them.
28:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Dude.
28:22
[SPEAKER_05]: If you see an enter berry work the cap room, he'll make it happen like he'll push some contracts out he'll
28:33
[SPEAKER_05]: some money around, and we'll have Millie quillus on the team.
28:39
[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you guys think of Millie quillus though?
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he played what three games.
28:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And this guy is like, I find like it's four quarters for a dollar.
28:47
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're gonna trade off, you know, guy that you got to pay 40 million or you're gonna keep Shidorah on a rookie contract.
28:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
28:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like based on their stats, he has slightly better stats.
28:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He can run the ball a little bit better, but I kind of like what Shidorah did
29:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm not, I'm not ready to invest more capital in the quarterback room until I fix the front lines until I fix the receiver position.
29:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know I'm getting a fair assessment of what a quarterback can do.
29:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Not so way I see it because like what did you invest last year you invested a third-round pick in Dylan that we know longer need anymore and then you've invested two assets into Shador and then another asset I believe in getting can you pick it who you traded away and got that back so how much more court I guess you never can stop.
29:41
[SPEAKER_03]: investing into the quarterback room, but at some point, we got to think to ourselves, could we even evaluate these guys last year?
29:49
[SPEAKER_03]: We couldn't, because we were so bad.
29:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to fix up a little bit of everything, man.
29:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And to get to finally figure out what you have in the quarterback position, we're just not there yet.
30:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Please just get me some weapons.
30:10
[SPEAKER_05]: uh, at least though was it when Linda bomb.
30:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the one.
30:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
30:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Hope he can like lure him over.
30:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I know he might be on the higher end of signing a, you know, an offensive lineman and the reagency.
30:25
[SPEAKER_05]: But be nice to get him.
30:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but yeah, we just got rebuilt the line.
30:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, we know that we all know that.
30:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I keep seeing the mock drafts kind of all over the place some people say, take a line first, take a water steer first.
30:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, me personally, it's it's hard for me because it's like, yes, would it be cool to take off and so the best offense of why I'm unavailable at six or is it sexy?
31:03
[SPEAKER_05]: No, but it would help.
31:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, of course,
31:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I want a wide receiver.
31:10
[SPEAKER_05]: We haven't, like, as Josh and everybody's, but we haven't, we haven't had a top wide receiver talent in 12 years.
31:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, and I know, you know, Josh's slander was great, but he's, like, even Josh's slander really wasn't, like, a number one, like, Greek-E-Y receiver.
31:29
[SPEAKER_05]: He was a great at the in-between slant plays and just he had a lot of, like, rap.
31:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I mean, I just want a gritty over the top 50 50 ball wide receiver that somebody to throw to again, I mean, I would do that.
31:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I would take Tate and I would take Boston.
31:52
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I would do.
31:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
31:54
[SPEAKER_05]: No kidding.
31:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I would love that passion.
31:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Ashen just said it in the Discord, I just lost it, shoot.
32:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he said we need Superstar Playmakers, more than we need Superstar Olyman.
32:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the whole reason of having monk in here is he uses athletic lineman.
32:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can get those in the second round.
32:12
[SPEAKER_03]: The guys that they draft in the first round are like the guys with the brass scores, the freaks.
32:18
[SPEAKER_03]: The guys that can run at 355 pounds in their six seven.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you have Georgia Warhop come in and mold some of these young guys in the later rounds while you still get some great talent in the free agency, but you really invest heavily in the first round on two receivers and then
32:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I really like the one line and I like if say we went two wider series in the first, which would be awesome I don't know if we will but it'd be sweet, but a Second round I he's kind of been following in that was that that kid out of Arizona I do not you know I know his name is first name is Mack.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I not or something like that.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah Yeah, like he really impressed me in the senior role
33:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, he's as a big dude and he was like just pushing people around there in the senior bowl.
33:16
[SPEAKER_05]: So I wouldn't I would love to have him the song.
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing with if you want, if you're going to go with Maui Noah or Fano at six, you're saying that that offensive tackle is by far and away better than any offensive tackle you could possibly get later in the round at 24.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't know if that's the case.
33:41
[SPEAKER_02]: high level offensive tackle class as far as the top end talent.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that when you get your top ranked offensive tackle is not that much better than like your fifth ranked tackle.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Does that make sense?
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think your first ranked wide receiver is that much better than your fifth ranked wide receiver.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, for sure.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I would still go wide receiver at six, especially if it's car and I'll take.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, I would take my kind of lemon at six.
34:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys know that, I think he's a dog.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a stud.
34:14
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't get one of those two at six, they're both gone or they decided to go with a tackle.
34:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked Denzel Boston.
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And after that, for me, it's a war, Cooper.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I want a war, Cooper on this team.
34:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I want him to matter to me.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like him, but I'm starting to see people say by the time the draft process is done and we're sitting there at late April, he might work his way into the first round back into the first.
34:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you said Omar Cooper, right?
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he kind of lives in the intermediate windows, and that's what Monkin likes to attack.
34:52
[SPEAKER_03]: He also is a very reliable separator, and that's something that Monkin loves.
34:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He seems to me, if you could pair him with Tate, that would be, you're going to ask him.
35:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that'd be a good complimented of duo right there.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:12
[SPEAKER_05]: One super sleeper pick it is towards the very end of the draft and if we can get them as a Pomeran Turner, I would love it and that is Baron Brown.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Please give it a go.
35:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wish you.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Where's he from again?
35:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll see you right in the right.
35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: The guy if you're talking about like, I don't know sleepers because I'm going to say it's a sleeper only on the fact that everybody wants to use or a majority people want to use six pick on a tackle.
35:42
[SPEAKER_03]: If you get down at the end of the first round or maybe trade back up or maybe if you just fall slightly in the second is Monroe Freeling from Georgia.
35:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Monkton's got experience with them, considered a very athletic tackle, SEC tested we know, and his past protection is his upside, right?
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So that would be something aggressive for the passing game, and it's, it's comfortability with Monkton as well.
36:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
36:11
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, guys, let's stay see you up here now.
36:14
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, sounds good, buddy.
36:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We will get the stay see you've had your hand up for a while.
36:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me get you up here.
36:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It's moving on me.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Stacey.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: How you doing?
36:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go on on.
36:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's another.
36:28
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your own mail?
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, can you guys hear me?
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in my car.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if it's like going to be sounding normal or not.
36:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You sound great.
36:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the right man.
36:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, good.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, now that the Bradshaw's over, and I'm just kidding, I'm not sitting with the Brad.
36:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love you.
36:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But now, I just wanted to comment on the Malik Willis thing, because I'm on the same pages as Kenny when it comes to that, because I saw a post on Facebook about like, you know, the Malik Willis, oh, do we want to pay him when we're paying Shador?
37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, what we're paying Shador, like 4.5 million, and I think they want.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it 40 or 30 that they went from a leak?
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that with the 30?
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like 20 to 30.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, so no, so yeah, when it comes to that I'm like, what do you nuts?
37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have a guy on the on our team now that you're paying 4.5 million for that I think has put up Good amount of numbers, you know, and that course that's the thing that really will upset me is when they put the numbers together, you know, obviously
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoulder has, I believe it's 10 interceptions and then Malay can't like seven maybe and everyone's like, oh, yeah, look at the stats.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so much better.
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I commented on that post and what I'll say to you guys now is you have to realize like what.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: How many of Shidorah's interceptions number one should be looked at as, okay, he threw him to Jerry Judy and he should have caught.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we know the one in the end zone that just strives me nuts, but multiple other ones that have been hit off receiver's hands, whether it be Judy or whoever, you know, that should have been caught.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So look at those interceptions and think about who Malik will is throwing to, you know, he's throwing a Watson, he's throwing to both to the have on their team.
38:14
[SPEAKER_01]: jobs, breed, like these are Matthew Golden, who I'm sure will end up being a great receiver as time goes on.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's got incredible weapons that Shidorah obviously does not have.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just I hate that the stack comparison thing.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just, when it comes to Shidorah in general, you can't compare any of his stats.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think it's fair on him.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get a full season.
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get the reps. We all know that story.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And he doesn't have the weapons.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Focus on that and it's just and then just go from there, you know, and I just I'm so tired of the the quarterback thing like I'm tired of the
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of the quarterback competition.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going to have four quarterbacks on the roster.
38:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm just sick of that story.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's just get over it.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I'm over that story.
38:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's just her once in our lives, stick with the guy and see how it goes.
39:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, let me help you here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me help you with this whole stats thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what post on Facebook you saw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I found out with Facebook posts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: really blatantly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that Ortiz guy, Angelore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was Angelore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, well, then it was legit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But so the stats for Shador and Malik.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shador Sanders this year has started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He started seven games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Malik Willis in four seasons in the NFL has started six games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Total.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to open up the checkbook and allocate salary, precious salary cab space that we need for offensive lineman and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to another quarterback who's started one fewer game than our rookie quarterback last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder or three and four record, Malik Willis, three and three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder Sanders has two hundred and twelve passive temps in his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Malik Willis just has one fifty five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder Sanders, fourteen hundred passing yards Malik Willis, thirteen twenty two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder Sanders, seven touchdowns, Malik Willis, six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder Sanders has taken twenty three sacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Malik Willis
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then this is the big one I found, scramble's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Malik Willis, so not a design quarterback run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's taken 27 scramble's in his career in his six stars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For a 7.6 yard average, Shador Sanders did 18 scramble's last year for 9.3.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he averages more yards on his scramble's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then Malik Willis does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't and isn't really well as known for being like a rushing quarter back of my message.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's got five rushing yards and four touchdowns and Shador had 167 so but the thing is I want my quarterback to be a freaking pass and I know I agree with you 100% what he was doing in Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a great team there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: great team whenever he was the guy and I know but if you go look at his rookie year with Tennessee at three starts he completed 50% of his passes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So three starts over the last three seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why people are just clamoring for this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know what it ends up you're in silly season like what are you you have to connect up quarter back to the browns to get clicks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you do and milk will us and you know you're supposed to this milk will us to the dolphins or browns what do you think it was one of four different players the more possibly to the raiders blah blah blah blah blah well you know what milk go to the go to the go to the dolphins have fun there watch it we got somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just so tired of the quarterback thing being like directed towards the Browns always like aren't we excited to finally not have to worry about that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we might not have to worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know as Browns fans were not used to that whatsoever, but like maybe that's something we need to start getting used to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, backing up our guy and just sticking with him and seeing how it goes from there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a man that the Blake says this all the time to the favorite quarter back in Cleveland since man since I've been ten years old is the backup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even when I watched Bernie and at the end of Bernie, they were clamoring for Todd Phil Cox, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That guy was awful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it or Vinnie Test of Erdy, like it was always the backup guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody always loved the backup here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're like a cynical wallist at one point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that there's definitely two schools of thought on Shador Sanders in the way he played.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it depends on what kind of lender we were watching the season through in the games and what you were expecting, what your priors were with him before he was even drafted or after they drafted him, all that kind of stuff plays a factor into how people react when you bring him up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he played well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a perfect, no, hell no, it was rough at times, really rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a rookie quarterback with very limited practice preparation, leading up to his time actually getting on the field in games, and then when he was on the field in games, he's thrown to undrafted rookies, and he's got a completely backup offensive line that's the worst in the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I still thought he had some great plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made some great throws, made some good decisions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Through the ball away, he didn't take the crippling sacs that everybody was so worried about with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he didn't have that as part of his game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I felt like he got better and worked on things developed from game to game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited to see what he can do in year two with it improved offense and some more experience under his belt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we won the last game or he didn't at least he didn't lose it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the defense had a big hand in the last game of the year, but their little fan of Junior wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the only guy he's passing to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's also a rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we, there's no experienced veteran leadership presence, playmakers, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This, this offense has nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jerry Judy is the only one who could have filled that role and he did not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He sucked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because a cry baby instant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a cry baby and then on the sidelines on the sidelines after you get some ball punched out because it's a hop skip and down that whatever dude like come on
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, with that guy, like we need him to be wide receiver three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to that, for that to happen, we all know what needs to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you carnautate to come here, or McKay Lemon, I love McKay Lemon as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then get, however, needs to be the secondary receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it cannot be Jerry Judy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry Judy needs to be wide receiver three this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for, for, for, should order be successful or whoever they choose to be quarterback to be successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: get the wide receiver room together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, I like them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like my referral a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I put them in my mock draft that we talked to you talked about on here, but I like him a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a sleeper and you can get him late, late in the rounds, you know, or, and what does he project to see a second round?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's second right now, but he could creep into the back into the first depending on how the combine and all that kind of stuff plays into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's going to be doing like what you'd say like 38 to 28 somewhere around there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe and maybe who knows, maybe maybe Andrew very can work getting our second round up into the back of the first, you know, give up a couple things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're definitely going to move in the draft for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that we can make a lot of moves in the right direction, just got to get the right players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and as far as the best player available, I am not on that train.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I know a lot of people like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes sense and I get it, but I'm just on the train of what we need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we just need offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Best player available is when you're winning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not winning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got too many holes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, Stacey, anything else?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I wasn't even looking at the screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thanks to Stacey for jumping up here and chatting, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Brad wants to get back to the Brad show, according to Stacey.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just saw the OSU's uh, USA just smack Latamian hockey.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So hopefully we'll uh, the USA and Canada will meet up in the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're the two power houses, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I thought I was like, man, we got to get a can of the USA.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's take game going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is the only thing I'll watch you on
49:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, that was dude.
49:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like falling asleep the other night just watching curling.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, people like to do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you get a couple of pints and he is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So there you go, yeah, yeah, I had a couple of me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So we're good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, what?
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[SPEAKER_05]: out of all out of the top, what did you just just just do top 16 when receivers, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all the riskers that were inside the top 100 and there were 16 of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So out of those top 16, besides like the top, we'll just go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 10 and down, 10 to 16, who are those other life receivers you would like to see the Browns get?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, number 10 is Jeremy Bernard.
50:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys watch the show.
50:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm out on Jeremy Bernard from Alabama.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: After that, I'm still interested in Elijah Sirat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not as interested in Chris Brasal out of Tennessee as some people are and maybe I just need to keep watching some more film and do some more study on him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not as impressed as some people seem to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm full out on Jacobi Lane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's going to be a good NFL receiver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not big on Antonio Williams, I do like Ted Hirsch, I like Skyler Bell, and that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the top or the end of that 16-less than after 100, which looks like Skyler Bell now dropped to 102 in mock draft database, so he's technically out of it too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After that, uh, there's this kid out of a wide, uh, a wide receiver out of Mississippi State Brennan Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's very small, very small, but in that, you know, fifth round range, he could have some return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, ability with the team and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was a very good receiver for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you never know, could be a smaller guy like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I like Eric McAllister's a guy out of TCU at 181.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to do some more research on him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But from what I've been reading and looking at sounds like he had some off-field issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what they were.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to do some research.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But early in his career sounds like from what I was reading, he got those fixed and kind of turned himself around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Eric, but yeah, there's a name to keep it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you mention Fields out of Notre Dame?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, because he was in that he was, he's in the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I didn't say him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in your top 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I had, I got him 86 on the big board.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, FF.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm mocked her after he's at 50.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the eighth overall receiver right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I got you got you I can't count.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all right.
52:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to I like in 2022 frame and that's all I saw He's got big white eyes at six form like yeah, man.
52:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that Yeah, this kid from the senior bull this tyrant Montgomery out of John Carroll now.
52:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're not going to draft him Because you don't draft small school guys if you're Andrew Barry but tyrant Mike Montgomery could end up being a UDFA
52:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He could go that round where now that's where Andrew Barry starts to really hit on some guys from these smaller schools.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's a name Tyron Montgomery is also somebody to keep in mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you say Bryce Lance?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, I'm not big on him, but what would it stay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you got on him?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's big on your yards per route run right through 0.57.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he's doing it against lesser competition, but yeah, North Dakota, I mean, you're going to, you're going to draft him late, so it's going to be something developmental because he's not going to hop in from North Dakota State and just light up the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is something you've got to, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: massage kind of bit, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So at 6309, I'm all right with the size.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got to see what he runs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a senior, so it'll be a older player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That compared to what Barry likes to draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he's getting it done against a competition based on his metrics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you might want to see what he has.
53:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I see.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's warm.
53:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
53:56
[SPEAKER_05]: There's one water seaver that I want to add one can to unlock and it's my boy look for it Time to unlock them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's time to unlock them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's that would be good to see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we show He's like who do they compare him to I love paired up
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... what's the space to use with be the patriots no july that a little gentleman yeah july an element he didn't start on the patriots he was he wasn't he on the budget he picked around for a couple years and then started to be good like that's how you develop those guys yeah he was uh... later on draft paper out of cunt's the so
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[SPEAKER_03]: quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're right.
54:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep, they haven't seen the area, basically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, another guy here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm kind of going through the names because there's been, I did obviously the top 16 show just talking about those guys, but after that, there are some names that I've been intrigued by another one here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about Louis Bond out of Boston College.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's interesting to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like five eleven one ninety five so he's not he's not like super big But he's also not like a tiny guy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's a he'd be a good slot receiver for an NFL team I'm just I'm definitely gonna do some more Research on Lewis Bond So There are two positions on our team that we could get in reality I know we're pretty heavy on the offense, which we should be
55:31
[SPEAKER_05]: say the mid-round area say like not even there was to say fourth or fifth round would you take a corner or safety?
55:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, that's some upside.
55:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Heck yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the defense has got to get something.
55:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's got to be at least one or two picks that you're going to get there.
55:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, you need depth to push the corners, you need depth to push the safeties.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would love to see a some kind of defensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That can push the pocket, but really be good against a run.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know it's, so everybody's, let's listen to me, let's say I know the last, what is if it's six years of, we've drafted two, two, three defensive tackles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: each draft and you're very never going on yeah he's never not drafted a defensive tackle so i've i've haven't done a defensive tackle i don't think in any of my mock drafts because i'm basing on what i would do but if you're looking at it from an injury very perspective i fully expect them to take a defensive tackle at some point in the draft yeah i i a hundred percent agree
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see, but yeah, I definitely would be looking at safety corner back, something in the defense of backfield it in that mid-round range.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, anything else before we get out of here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If anybody else wants to get up, you're okay, Brad left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody else wants to jump up here real quick, we've got like five minutes left or so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get your hand up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get you up here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If not, we'll kind of start wrapping it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: get him up here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jay Dog, what's up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not Jimmy McDonald.
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[SPEAKER_08]: How does posting their chat?
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[SPEAKER_08]: If you're willing to get two Widersy-Rizz in the first round, would y'all take?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Would y'all trade your two first round pigs and get a, like, are you proven Widersy-Rizz from a different team?
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[SPEAKER_03]: like who i'm going i'm going i don't want the salary i don't want anything to do with it because i just need to pay uh... dw off so i'm not i'm not doing that i'm taking two receivers in this draft
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that was just a thought on my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a good thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a, it's a, it's one that will stop and think about for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you're talking, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, like you said, they traded two for Justin Jefferson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna not buy his jersey or be unhappy, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would rather just not spend the money on what I got to pay this guy for another contract or whatever fulfills, you know, how much these ones are worth to either the fan base or myself or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, we're a team that is rebuilding, man, and on the offense to side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And two shots at that position would be great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're always hoping, no, I hope one of these guys hits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they both hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we take two receivers, if we do like a Carnell Tate Omar Cooper type thing, that means we have two legitimate receivers moving forward that should or Sanders, who should hopefully be our quarterback can rely on
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[SPEAKER_02]: in two or three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm looking for with those picks rather than bundling them to go get a guy who's already maybe 25, 26, 27 years old and like any said has the big contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, good to hear from you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: good here from everybody else who jumped up here to talk today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you guys tuning in again if you guys want to be part of these dog pack discord episodes in the future where we do it live in here with everybody and hang out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's joined the dogs.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you like the conversations we're having on the show and you like hearing from these guys and gals that jump up here and talk they're in the discord 24 seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great place to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's
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[SPEAKER_02]: that you can jump in there and get your thoughts and opinions heard about the draft and the quarterback situation free agent, whatever you want to talk about, get in there, hang out it's a good time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk to you and we'll see you join the dogs.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny, any last minute thing before we get out of here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just say welcome back to staley I think you did all right with the running backs that we had last year and I'm glad to see him back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got to meet him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's cool dude and I think he matches the intensity that Monkton conveys so good higher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And oh shoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad to do sustain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a voicemail from Therilla, which I don't usually play voicemails on this show because this is your guys show here in the dog pack for you guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I save the voicemails for the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Therilla, who's in the dog pack, send a voicemail in, but I don't have it queued up a ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll save that for another day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Therilla, I did get your voicemail, and I'm sorry I didn't get that on here today, but I appreciate your man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry for all the kids at home if you're listening.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, Vinty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys will love to know you in under a minute too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went under like three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vinty did send another message from the website, which I'll read that on the next show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a hoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a hoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Tony Grossy man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Tony Grossy man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Tony Grossy man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Tony Grossy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually Tony.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, he's out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He unblocked us on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess maybe we're back in the good graces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mary Kay is going to be the next one to shut the door on us, but whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, appreciate you two and then, we'll be back in the next episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for being here, join the dogs.com, see you guys in the next one.
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