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Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on artists on Artists on artists. Boy,
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Speaker 1: do we have a panel for.
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Speaker 2: You today, History's Screenwriting Expert panel of new voices in Hollywood.
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Speaker 3: Costumes are correct.
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Speaker 4: Buck Mary kil wide shot, two shot close up.
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Speaker 3: This artist on artists.
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Speaker 5: On artists on artists.
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Speaker 1: Do you know why they call it show business? I
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Speaker 1: always wondered that. Welcome back to artists on artists on
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Speaker 1: artists on artists. This week it's boy meets Girl, Boy
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Speaker 1: loses girl, boy gets back again to make a good movie.
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Speaker 1: That's right, we're talking to rom calm creators.
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Speaker 4: Four current creators of romantic comedy films have come together
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Speaker 4: in the AOAOA Studio to discuss what it's like to
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Speaker 4: make a romantic comedy and the differences in their processes.
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Speaker 2: These artists have just recently released their movies and you
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Speaker 2: can go watch them anytime soon in theaters.
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Speaker 3: So let's listen in and turn our hearts off.
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Speaker 2: On Hey, what's up on Diego Blues? And I directed
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Speaker 2: and created the movie Failed to Remember.
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Speaker 4: Hi, my name is Wim Windigo. And I made the
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Speaker 4: romantic comedy Who Do I Love?
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Speaker 1: Hey?
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Speaker 3: I'm Nanny Austen. I'm so excited to be here and
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Speaker 3: talk about the movie Where's My Mind?
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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Holly McPherson, and I made the movie in
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Speaker 1: the ashes we Forget. Wow. It is wonderful to have
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Speaker 1: us all in a room to talk about what we
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Speaker 1: love best about the movies, which is love. Movies about love.
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Speaker 1: It's honer to meet all of you.
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Speaker 4: It's really nice. It's you know, when you make movies,
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Speaker 4: it's almost like you're making a movie in the dark,
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Speaker 4: you know, and it's such a surprise when you come
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Speaker 4: out and you see the rest of the landscape. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: maybe we just go around and we talk about the
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Speaker 4: plots of her films and we maybe discuss you.
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Speaker 1: Would love I would love that, I love that, I
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Speaker 1: would love that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So Who Do I Love? Is a romantic comedy
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Speaker 4: set in Seattle about a woman who gets knocked on
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Speaker 4: the head by a penny that somebody threw off the
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Speaker 4: space needle and forgets who she was in love with.
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Speaker 4: So it's a fun romp of her looking for clues
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Speaker 4: in her phone, looking for clues in her wallet and purse,
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Speaker 4: and with her friends to see who was it that
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Speaker 4: I loved? And of course finding the love of her life. Again,
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Speaker 4: showing the world that the love of her life is
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Speaker 4: the love of your life, even if you don't remember
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Speaker 4: your life.
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Speaker 3: Amazing. And when did your movie come out? Let's just
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Speaker 3: all sharrow release dates if you guys don't mind.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I'll just say that my movie came
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Speaker 4: out March twenty twenty one, March fifteenth. I'm sorry, No problem.
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Speaker 2: No Problem Failed to Remember is kind of like this
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Speaker 2: fun romp rom com. You know, it's about this girl.
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Speaker 2: She's on this beer kind of like festival run, you know,
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Speaker 2: they do beer runs, and like we're going out, we're
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Speaker 2: seeing doing all the bars, and she meets this guy
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Speaker 2: and they instantly hit it off, and they spend the
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Speaker 2: next like couple of beat bars together, and then unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: at the last bar, she gets hit over the head
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Speaker 2: with a beer and it knocks her out cold.
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Speaker 5: So is somebody's throwing up beer at no.
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Speaker 2: Knocks her out cold. She wakes up kind of in
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Speaker 2: the next morning and she's like, who was that guy?
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Speaker 2: I don't remember even who I am, So she kind
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Speaker 2: of has to like retrace her steps of all the
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Speaker 2: bars to figure out who this guy was and who
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Speaker 2: she is. And it's set in Portland and my release
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Speaker 2: date is March sixteenth, twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Interesting, right, well, of course I'm in The Ashes We
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Speaker 1: Forget is a hilarious and harrowing story of a firefighter
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Speaker 1: named Xander who is called into a burning, burning building
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Speaker 1: to save a young child, and he goes into the building.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately he's hit on the head with a feasts of lumber.
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Speaker 1: He falls down, he gets into a coma. He doesn't remember.
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Speaker 1: All he knows is that he wakes up in the
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Speaker 1: morning with an engagement ring on his finger and he
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Speaker 1: can't remember who it was two and why. So it's
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Speaker 1: their journey of Xander and his engaged wife Caroline to
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Speaker 1: find each other and see if they can in the ashes,
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Speaker 1: Out of the Ashes Remember.
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Speaker 3: And You're released em.
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Speaker 1: March seventeenth, twoenty twenty one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, interestings, Okay, Well, my movie's a little different. Our
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Speaker 3: lead is a dyslexic girl and she's a nurse. She's
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Speaker 3: just trying to get by and she's engaged to a
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Speaker 3: man named Mind. She is trying to give one of
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Speaker 3: her patients a sedative accidentally gives it to herself because
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Speaker 3: she's quirky, dyslexic and messes things up sometimes gave herself
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Speaker 3: the sedative, wakes up from the sedative, and her husband
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Speaker 3: mind is gone, her fiance mind is gone, so she
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Speaker 3: learns to find him and find herself in the process
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Speaker 3: and find her mind. And my release date was let's see,
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Speaker 3: it was March nineteenth to on e twenty one.
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Speaker 5: Amazing, interesting one day gap between our movies. Fantastic great.
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Speaker 3: I find this so funny? Did they?
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Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, can we just name the elephant
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Speaker 5: in the room.
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Speaker 2: This is all the same fucking movie, right, we're all
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Speaker 2: kind of writing a similar fucking movie here.
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't quite don't. I don't quite see what
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Speaker 4: you're saying. I see a lot of differences. You know,
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Speaker 4: mine was in Seattle, yours was in Portland. Where were
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Speaker 4: y'all's films?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Mine was in Phoenix.
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Speaker 3: Oh and mine was in Austin, Texas.
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Speaker 4: Oh see, very different films.
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Speaker 3: And my lead is chryslexic, and none of your leads are.
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Speaker 4: My lead has dysgraphia, just just lexia for numbers.
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Speaker 1: My lead has synesthesia, meaning he can sort of hear
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Speaker 1: colors and sea sounds. It's not the same, it's quite different.
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Speaker 3: That's very different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my lead is an alcoholic, so it's kind of
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Speaker 2: you know, that's that is a little different, you know.
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Speaker 1: Very different. So I'm curious. I mean, I know there
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Speaker 1: are people saying, you know, oh, you all made sort
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Speaker 1: of the same movie. The papers like to say that,
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Speaker 1: when did you all start working on your movie?
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Speaker 5: Oh, this is a good question.
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Speaker 2: I've had this idea for a long time actually, because
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Speaker 2: you know, I would say about five years ago, kind
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Speaker 2: of to the day's October like twenty sixteen. I went
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Speaker 2: on this bar crawl and I watched this woman just
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Speaker 2: get hit in the back of the head with a
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Speaker 2: beer like a mug, a glass mug, and she fell
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Speaker 2: down out cold. The amblets came and the last thing
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Speaker 2: I remember her somebody asking me her was like, who's
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Speaker 2: the president? I know she couldn't remember, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: that girl is concussed. Oh my god, wait a second.
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Speaker 2: This is such a good movie. So that's kind of
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Speaker 2: where I started developing it. October about twenty sixteen, what
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Speaker 2: about you, guys.
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Speaker 4: I can't quite remember the year, but I remember it
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Speaker 4: was a month before the Hillary Clinton Donald Trump election.
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Speaker 5: Yeah that's October. That's twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 4: Interesting. I was campaigning for Hillary. I was traveling the
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Speaker 4: country and I stopped by Seattle with the space needle,
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Speaker 4: and I was up there and I said, I wonder
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Speaker 4: what would happen if I threw this penny off. I was,
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Speaker 4: I was going through kind of a destructive stage. And
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Speaker 4: I always say, you know, I tell all the young
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Speaker 4: screenwriters this, if you have a destructive thought, don't act
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Speaker 4: on it, write it. And so I of course went
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Speaker 4: home and I started working on the screenplay home to
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Speaker 4: my hotel because I was campaigning for Hillary. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 4: whenever that was with.
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Speaker 5: Your's a lot of campaigning for Hillary in Seattle.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, look a lot of people said that it
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Speaker 4: was softball campaigning. Okay, but yes, I'm sorry. Yes, a
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Speaker 4: lot of people said that my specific trajectory is what
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Speaker 4: lost is the election. Yes, I'm sorry, Okay, Yes, I'm
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Speaker 4: a screenwriter, and yes I stuck to blue states. But
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Speaker 4: it was safe for me, and I've learned it's scary.
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Speaker 1: It's scary to go to Michigan.
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Speaker 4: It's really scary there.
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Speaker 3: It is it is. I remember working on my script.
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Speaker 3: I don't remember when, but I do it was right
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Speaker 3: around the brexit. Yeah, that's just I was at a
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Speaker 3: Halloween party and I left because I had this idea.
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Speaker 1: And I had I love to leave parties when I
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Speaker 1: get an idea.
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Speaker 5: Yes, so many times.
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Speaker 3: I guess that makes it.
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Speaker 5: That's in October. Yeah, Halloween only ever in October.
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Speaker 3: I dressed like Monica Lewinsky.
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Speaker 5: That's crazy. That Halloween I also dressed is monicains act.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a common costume. It's a common one.
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Speaker 5: Pill it kills.
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Speaker 1: I must have started working much much earlier than you
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Speaker 1: guys did, because I remember so it was four years
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Speaker 1: after Obama was reelected.
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so because he was campaigning for the new president.
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Speaker 2: It would have been if a president as four year terms,
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Speaker 2: it's coming up.
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Speaker 5: It's October. It's October twenty six.
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Speaker 1: So so that doesn't sound right because it was around
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Speaker 1: the time that Starbucks was bringing back the pumpkin spiced Latte.
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Speaker 1: They do that every year, and so it must have
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Speaker 1: been a different time of year because it must have.
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Speaker 3: Been November, maybe September.
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Speaker 2: Just look at the release date usually is of when
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Speaker 2: this year the pumpkin sace comes out October third. So
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Speaker 2: I'm just guessing they keep that kind of traditional for
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I do.
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Speaker 1: Actually kind of remember. I remember something from the night
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Speaker 1: that I came up with it, because I went home
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Speaker 1: to my calendar and I pulled it open and it
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Speaker 1: said October, and I thought that was so funny. I
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Speaker 1: thought that was that'll tell you incidence, that'll tell you.
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Speaker 2: I know, I I think that means it was October
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Well, that's okay, I guess My question next
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Speaker 2: question is when did it go into production for you guys, Like,
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Speaker 2: I mean, how long did it take the writing process
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Speaker 2: for you guys, Because.
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Speaker 5: For me, you know, it was a little grueling.
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Speaker 2: It took me about a year, maybe a year and
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Speaker 2: a half of draft after draft after draft of just
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Speaker 2: really figuring out exactly how I wanted to tell this story.
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Speaker 2: You know, I probably had the first draft done in
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Speaker 2: the first three months, but then I got into I
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Speaker 2: got a lot of notes, and by I think a
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Speaker 2: year and a half later, like probably around January twenty
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Speaker 2: eighteen was when I was when I was finished with
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Speaker 2: that first solid draft I was sending out Interesday.
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Speaker 3: We should all keep journals. Us filmmakers, we don't remember things.
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Speaker 3: That's so funny, none of us. When we started projects.
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Speaker 1: And I know we're harping a lot on the timeline,
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Speaker 1: but I just find it very interesting. I love to
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Speaker 1: know how you all work, especially since it's you know,
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Speaker 1: it's such similar but very original different concepts, and I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You know, the data are quite interesting.
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Speaker 1: I know that it was two years after Trump was inaugurated.
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Speaker 1: That's when I started going into production. I ran into
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Speaker 1: some delays because I don't traditionally write on a keyboard.
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Speaker 1: I I sort of speak it out loud into voice
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Speaker 1: to text memos, and then I write it all down later,
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Speaker 1: and it takes forever because the memo, you know, they
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Speaker 1: disappear after two minutes.
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Speaker 5: M So it was, oh, it's not like a recording it.
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Speaker 1: No, it's not voice memoi.
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Speaker 5: XT message and the voice to.
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Speaker 1: Text myself and then if I don't press keep fast enough,
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Speaker 1: it's just gone into the ether.
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Speaker 4: And that's a really kind of a newer technology that
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Speaker 4: Apple's released on the text messages. So it's pretty amazing
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Speaker 4: you kind of opted that so far.
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Speaker 1: I had the beta version. I have some friends in
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Speaker 1: high places.
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Speaker 4: I remember having my final draft finished. I finished it
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Speaker 4: and I went and saw Black Panther in theaters. The
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Speaker 4: first week. Whenever that was that?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think whenever that was?
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Speaker 3: Whenever, whenever that was?
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Speaker 4: And then I saw Tully the film Tully did you
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Speaker 4: have low Cody movie?
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Speaker 1: Whenever that was?
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Speaker 4: Whenever that was?
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Speaker 3: Remember, I cannot remember when we started production, but I
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Speaker 3: do remember things were tense. I think it was right
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Speaker 3: when Harvey Weinstein was fired.
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Speaker 5: He was he part of the movie. Was he part
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Speaker 5: of a tough period?
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Speaker 3: Yes? No, he was involved. We were getting one third
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Speaker 3: of the funding from the Weinsteins, and I remember all
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Speaker 3: of a sudden they weren't returning their calls and the
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Speaker 3: secretary would pick up and say run. And that was
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Speaker 3: right when we started production.
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Speaker 5: Excuse me.
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Speaker 4: The secretary would pick up and say run.
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Speaker 3: She'd pick up the phone and we'd say, where's our money.
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Speaker 3: We're going into production, we need to pay the team
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Speaker 3: stirs and she'd go run. So at some point we
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Speaker 3: finally put it together.
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Speaker 5: How long did it take you to put it together
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Speaker 5: after him being fired?
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Speaker 3: When was this? Do you guys remember when this was?
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Speaker 5: This was January twenty eighteen, exactly January two.
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Speaker 3: Got it. I'll say that when that happened, nobody knew
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Speaker 3: what to do. I mean, Weinstein had so many movies
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Speaker 3: in production. A lot of us, a lot of us
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Speaker 3: were in the same spot where we were, like, what
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Speaker 3: do we do before? If you had Weinstein signed on
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Speaker 3: in any capacity, your movie goes straight to distribution, You
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Speaker 3: get straight deals. But when we when he got accused
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Speaker 3: around late twenty seventeen, early twenty eighteen or late twenty eighteen, anyway,
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Speaker 3: it was we didn't know what to do with our movie,
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Speaker 3: but we figured it out.
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Speaker 1: How did you, if you don't mind me asking, secure
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Speaker 1: the rest of the funding?
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Speaker 3: Yes, we did. We threw up an indie Go go
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Speaker 3: for the last twenty grand.
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Speaker 5: Oh he was only supplying twenty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: And you said, you said one third, so your budget
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Speaker 4: was sixty thousand.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: I really do feel like next time you should negotiate
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Speaker 2: for a higher budget.
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Speaker 5: This is a major motion picture. You probably aren't paying
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Speaker 5: most of your I'll.
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Speaker 3: Tell you this. When I saw our budget and I
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Speaker 3: saw how small it was, I said, you know what's
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Speaker 3: amazing about this? No movie gets made for this budget,
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Speaker 3: And I said, no movie will be like ours.
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Speaker 1: Well, student films and souch often do.
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Speaker 3: I know, But I said that when our movie comes
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Speaker 3: out it will it will stand out well.
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Speaker 4: And I want to talk about that because I have
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Speaker 4: seen express screenings of all of your movies. I've watched
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Speaker 4: them all I got, I got DVD's, and there are
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Speaker 4: a lot of interesting differences, you know, one uh.
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Speaker 3: Talk about the differences I would like.
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Speaker 1: I think I would love to focus on the difference
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Speaker 1: between our movies.
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Speaker 4: So, my favorite character that I got to put in
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Speaker 4: my film is the you know, my best The main character,
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Speaker 4: her name is Sandra, and her best friend Rudy with
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Speaker 4: an eye, is just so funny because she's so disgusting
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Speaker 4: and it's really funny. She's just this kind of like hapless.
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Speaker 4: You know, you you don't even remember who you're in
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Speaker 4: love with, but you deserve a love. You know, I'm disgusting.
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Speaker 4: I'll never be able to find love and she doesn't.
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes my movie stand out,
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Speaker 4: is that there's, you know, a really interesting, wacky, crazy,
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Speaker 4: disgusting woman that's the best friend. And I think that's
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Speaker 4: I think that's different.
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Speaker 3: You don't see that a lot.
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Speaker 4: No, you don't see a disgusting friend in any movies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say one of my favorite characters that
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Speaker 2: I got to write in Failed to Remember is my
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Speaker 2: main character, Jessica's best friend.
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Speaker 5: Who's kind of this woman who hasn't.
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Speaker 2: Bathed in weeks. She's apps, she's smelly, she's smelly. She's
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Speaker 2: very smelly. And it's kind of like a crux of
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Speaker 2: the movie of like she's always kind of talking about
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Speaker 2: like she's to the friend her name is Rugie and
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Speaker 2: she's like, you got to go take a shower, and
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Speaker 2: she's like, no, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to keep on because disgusting people
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Speaker 3: don't choose to be it, and it sounds like your
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Speaker 3: character is choosing.
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Speaker 2: No, she's and I don't think she's disgusted. I think
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Speaker 2: she's extremely extremely smelly.
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Speaker 4: Because I think mine is disgusting.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know, I will say whim. I mean, my
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Speaker 1: favorite favorite catchphrase in that movie is from your character
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Speaker 1: her and she says, oh, this cheetos in my freaking
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Speaker 1: butt crack.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, she didn't choose for so hard. She didn't choose
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Speaker 4: for the cheeto to be in her butt crack. Unlike
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Speaker 4: excuse me, unlike Holly, Holly, you you you have a
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Speaker 4: character that chooses to put a cheeto in the butt crack,
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Speaker 4: which I yes.
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Speaker 1: She does because my my character, her name is Reese.
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Speaker 1: She's the best friend of Xander, and she's disgusting in
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Speaker 1: a different way. She's disgusting because she's horny, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. She's ugly girl, a horny, ugly girl
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Speaker 1: who's there to serve the best friend.
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Speaker 4: And aren't those funny? I think they are.
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Speaker 1: I think they're very funny because you know, you don't
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Speaker 1: assume that someone would like like that would have any
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Speaker 1: sexual drive, but of course they do.
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Speaker 3: They absolutely.
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Speaker 5: It was such a strong choice.
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Speaker 2: I'll say that because unexpected, completely unexpected that somebody like
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Speaker 2: that would have any sort of wanting for sex.
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Speaker 3: Oh true, I mean that is Oh, that's so funny.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: My main character doesn't have a best friend. That's so funny.
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Speaker 3: She has an insane neighbor she catches up with every day.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Kristin Wigg, Yes, yes.
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Speaker 3: And what was so funny about Kristin Wig was she
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Speaker 3: had just wrapped well, it was almost like we negotiated
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Speaker 3: her contract to to overlap the two movies she was
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Speaker 3: working on, and she was working on that famous movie
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Speaker 3: Dirty Girl. Yes, right as we picked up production.
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Speaker 2: She was so good and Dirty Girl, the movie about
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Speaker 2: the woman who runs the tough Mutter.
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Speaker 5: I love she would come.
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Speaker 3: Straight from set and come on as our neighbor.
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Speaker 5: She's still covered in mud.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we you can't tell Kristin what to do.
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Speaker 3: I mean we're paying her, yeah, especially grand so, so
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Speaker 3: she came on and we just let her come straight
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Speaker 3: on and she did her scene. She did her scene,
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Speaker 3: and then and then it was so funny watching the dailies.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my gosh, our character is a
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Speaker 3: little a little garbage.
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Speaker 5: You said that you thought that, Yeah, and.
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Speaker 3: I loved it. I mean it worked well, that's great.
20:19
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, we did find a little bit
20:21
Speaker 5: of difference. That's great.
20:21
Speaker 2: Let's keep digging because I think this is only going
20:24
Speaker 2: to help our movies stand independently from each other.
20:27
Speaker 4: It's interesting they put us in this panel together.
20:30
Speaker 3: I won't say it's yeah. I don't know if they're
20:32
Speaker 3: going to use this whole thing. But did you guys
20:35
Speaker 3: know that they would do this?
20:39
Speaker 1: Noah, No, I knew that I was going to be
20:48
Speaker 1: in an industry panel with my peers who also loved
20:52
Speaker 1: to make romantic comedies. I did not know that I'd
20:56
Speaker 1: be paired up with all of the creators who I
20:58
Speaker 1: allegedly stole from and in turn you from me. So
21:03
Speaker 1: it has been a surprise.
21:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I learned too. And that's
21:09
Speaker 2: something really interesting you just brought up. It's like, at
21:13
Speaker 2: this point, are we stealing from each other? Did you
21:15
Speaker 2: guys steal from me or did I steal from you?
21:18
Speaker 4: What should we discuss that? Should we have that conversation.
21:21
Speaker 3: I do want to say they definitely won't use this
21:24
Speaker 3: because this is now we're getting into some deep stuff
21:27
Speaker 3: because the word steal has been thrown out there and
21:30
Speaker 3: I can't ignore that word.
21:33
Speaker 4: So let's let's talk about it. I think a lot
21:38
Speaker 4: of people are saying stealing, especially because the posters are
21:41
Speaker 4: so similar. Right, it's, uh, you know all of our
21:46
Speaker 4: main characters. I mean, I'll speak for my poster. You know,
21:49
Speaker 4: the poster for Who Do I Love is my main actress,
21:54
Speaker 4: Kristen Bell looking confused as a man falls from the sky.
22:01
Speaker 2: M So mine's just a little bit different. It's my
22:07
Speaker 2: main character Jessica Chastain kind of looking like with her
22:12
Speaker 2: hands up in the air of like I don't remember,
22:15
Speaker 2: and then in the background there's a big glass mug
22:18
Speaker 2: heading for her head with a guy in the background.
22:22
Speaker 2: We got the kid from the Good Place. So yeah,
22:27
Speaker 2: we got Manny Jacinto to be the lead interest.
22:30
Speaker 4: Yeah.
22:31
Speaker 2: So so he is in the background going like this,
22:34
Speaker 2: like this girl, it's pretty good, it's pretty good.
22:38
Speaker 3: Different, I mean, these are different. This is why I
22:41
Speaker 3: don't know about if the if the word steel works,
22:44
Speaker 3: because I mean, whim did you say that? Uh?
22:48
Speaker 4: Yes, I did say all of our posters looked very similar.
22:50
Speaker 4: If I just want to say it up front, there's
22:52
Speaker 4: a woman in the foreground and they look confused and
22:54
Speaker 4: something's falling onto them. Let's just say it. Let's just
22:57
Speaker 4: say it.
22:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that's just the description of my poster, almost exactly.
23:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have a purple. I have a purple,
23:04
Speaker 3: and mine's green. Mine's green, and.
23:07
Speaker 1: Mine is green, so it's different and mine is purple.
23:11
Speaker 4: Well, you different, But yours is different from from from theirs.
23:16
Speaker 4: But it's not different from mine, Holly.
23:19
Speaker 1: The point is not all four of us have the
23:21
Speaker 1: exact same details at once.
23:23
Speaker 3: So that's what it is. Not all four of the
23:26
Speaker 3: four of us.
23:26
Speaker 1: It's not all four of us.
23:27
Speaker 2: Sometimes two of a share thing or three of a
23:29
Speaker 2: share thing, but not all of us.
23:31
Speaker 5: And let's just say share different things.
23:33
Speaker 4: Let's just say it. Holly. You use Kristen Bell in
23:36
Speaker 4: your movie too.
23:38
Speaker 1: I used her in the in the movie as well.
23:40
Speaker 1: She played the dead version of the girl who he's
23:44
Speaker 1: trying to remember. He plays the you know, the fake
23:47
Speaker 1: version of Caroline that he's imagining in his mind when
23:51
Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out who he is remembering that.
23:55
Speaker 4: You can't understand. You can understand how I thought that
23:58
Speaker 4: was a personal dick, right, because your movie came out
24:00
Speaker 4: after mine, and you're implying that my character is dead,
24:04
Speaker 4: my characters, but you're dead.
24:06
Speaker 1: But you did These are just you think that I do.
24:11
Speaker 4: And I'm wondering if you did also think that.
24:14
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of interesting because I didn't really see
24:19
Speaker 1: it as stealing. I thought that, you know, everything has
24:23
Speaker 1: already been done before, because if you go back, all
24:26
Speaker 1: of these love stare we're all borrowing from Shakespeare, right.
24:31
Speaker 3: And we're ultimately stealing from love And.
24:33
Speaker 1: We are ultimately all stealing from the twenty twelve movie
24:37
Speaker 1: The Vow with Rachel mccadams.
24:39
Speaker 4: We are.
24:42
Speaker 2: I literally stole so much from that movie. I'll be honest, Yeah, what.
24:46
Speaker 4: I think in terms of stealing as well. I do
24:49
Speaker 4: remember Kristen posting a photo of being on set with
24:53
Speaker 4: me on the Epic Space needle set that we built,
24:58
Speaker 4: and I remember standing next to her and seeing a
25:01
Speaker 4: d M from Holly Macpherson pop up.
25:05
Speaker 1: Well, I will say, whim, you don't. You don't know
25:08
Speaker 1: how close we are. For all you know, we could
25:11
Speaker 1: spend Thanksgiving together and do you no?
25:18
Speaker 4: Okay, but we could. Sure I.
25:22
Speaker 1: Could have saved her life. No, I could have come
25:29
Speaker 1: to her in a in a low low point when
25:31
Speaker 1: she's overdosing on the street and there's no one there
25:36
Speaker 1: for her. No. But the point is you can't cast
25:41
Speaker 1: us solutions.
25:42
Speaker 4: But I could have, sure, And that's slow and I
25:44
Speaker 4: shouldn't be creeping on anyone else's phones, especially not celebrities.
25:47
Speaker 4: But I just did see that, and I just wanted
25:50
Speaker 4: to bring that up, and because I was mad, honestly
25:52
Speaker 4: that she was on her phone on set. I'm gonna
25:54
Speaker 4: be honest, I was mad about that we were shooting.
25:57
Speaker 1: Well, you have a right to be mad about that.
25:59
Speaker 4: Yeah.
26:00
Speaker 2: Specifically, I just want to say mine is really different too,
26:03
Speaker 2: because ultimately mine is about alcoholism. Not about any of
26:07
Speaker 2: the hum drum mom drum.
26:09
Speaker 4: So so yeah, A lot of people are saying that
26:12
Speaker 4: You're a movie is a love letter to alcoholism.
26:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a big I'm a big fan of it.
26:17
Speaker 2: I think people should continue doing it. It's definitely, definitely
26:21
Speaker 2: kind of this taboo thing people don't want to talk
26:24
Speaker 2: about that alcoholism isn't it's kind of fun.
26:28
Speaker 3: And you know what, America needs love letters to alcoholisms.
26:31
Speaker 4: I thought about Hollywood reporter or headline Diego blues thinks
26:34
Speaker 4: everyone should keep doing alcoholism.
26:37
Speaker 5: M m, well they misquoted me, well Diego quoted.
26:41
Speaker 3: But I will I say, I will say, in the
26:43
Speaker 3: spirit of all honesty here I do want to say,
26:46
Speaker 3: you used t pains by by me a drink in
26:51
Speaker 3: yours and I had that in.
26:55
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, which I will say. My costas two hundred
27:00
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to get that song in our film. How
27:03
Speaker 2: on earth did you get the rights to that?
27:06
Speaker 3: Well ours? We're using it on a radio.
27:10
Speaker 5: Oh it's the karaoke version.
27:14
Speaker 3: Well no, not even the karaoke. An extra is driving
27:17
Speaker 3: by in her car and she has that song just
27:21
Speaker 3: incidental audio.
27:24
Speaker 2: So you can see how that's not necessarily stealing, because
27:27
Speaker 2: yours is just a ma and then she's gone because
27:31
Speaker 2: she's just driving by.
27:32
Speaker 4: You're the one who noticed the diego. You're the one
27:34
Speaker 4: who knows.
27:34
Speaker 2: I did notice it, and I thought it was a
27:35
Speaker 2: great song. It kind of flashed me back, like this
27:38
Speaker 2: is a great song and it'd be perfect for my
27:40
Speaker 2: movie that I'm working on.
27:42
Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's where we get into its straight
27:44
Speaker 3: on stealing. And I'll call a spade a spade. And
27:48
Speaker 3: I do a lot of flash cuts.
27:51
Speaker 5: I love flash cuts. I think you'd use them really well.
27:54
Speaker 2: The way that the screen goes fully white and then
27:57
Speaker 2: comes back is it's almost to cut. You're just in
28:01
Speaker 2: a scene flashing white and then a flashing back.
28:03
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're making an amnesia movie, you've got
28:07
Speaker 1: to have flash cut.
28:10
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think we all need all had them.
28:12
Speaker 4: We all had show.
28:18
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's a lot of things flying around right now,
28:21
Speaker 1: but if you want to accurately portray amnesia, you need
28:24
Speaker 1: that flashed white. You cannot flashed to white. If you
28:29
Speaker 1: dipped black, they're dead. If you win flashed white, everybody's
28:32
Speaker 1: still alive.
28:35
Speaker 4: A wipe is memory, A black as death We've all
28:38
Speaker 4: discussed this. We all have blood on our hands. We
28:40
Speaker 4: know what we're talking about. Mine were not flash cuts.
28:46
Speaker 2: Mine we're swipes, which was crazy because some of the
28:49
Speaker 2: actors would go and move their hand across the scene to.
28:54
Speaker 3: Pipes, sweep at it, if you will.
28:58
Speaker 4: And that was something different than you guys didn't have
29:01
Speaker 4: the actors in.
29:03
Speaker 2: But I will say, I will say I did feel
29:05
Speaker 2: like I've stolen because there is that bar she goes
29:08
Speaker 2: back to and they're and they're watching an improv scene
29:11
Speaker 2: and the three people clearly do sweep edits there, and
29:15
Speaker 2: I just felt like you were borrowing that, you.
29:17
Speaker 1: Know, and the improv scene of the fantasy sequence in
29:20
Speaker 1: my movie.
29:22
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, listen, let's let's that's kind of discuss this
29:27
Speaker 4: here now. Did I take the scene from your movie
29:32
Speaker 4: that somebody sent me the dailies? Because I know the
29:34
Speaker 4: executive at Sony and she owes me some things for
29:38
Speaker 4: things I've done for her? Did she potentially send dailies
29:41
Speaker 4: to me? And as a dig at you, Holly, I
29:45
Speaker 4: cast the worst improvisers I've ever seen in my life
29:49
Speaker 4: and made them say your dialogue like they were doing
29:54
Speaker 4: bad improv. And then I had Kristen's character say, man,
29:58
Speaker 4: I wish I could forget this. I did, I did
30:01
Speaker 4: have that.
30:03
Speaker 1: Waim I wish I waim. I know I should be
30:06
Speaker 1: mad at you, but I just think this reflects poorly
30:09
Speaker 1: on you, more poor on you than it does on me.
30:12
Speaker 1: So I can sleep peacefully at night. I don't know
30:16
Speaker 1: about you. I don't know what I can sleep, but
30:20
Speaker 1: I sleep peacefully.
30:22
Speaker 4: I don't sleep in a bed for my back. I
30:24
Speaker 4: sleep on the floor, and I take ambient for the record.
30:28
Speaker 4: And by the way, I didn't have Tea Pains buy
30:30
Speaker 4: you a drink in mine. I had Bartender and Tea
30:33
Speaker 4: Paints sang it live at the end of the big concert.
30:37
Speaker 3: But I will say it's very weird that these Tea
30:39
Speaker 3: Paint songs, we all came out at the same time
30:42
Speaker 3: and in production the same year, and these Tea Paint
30:44
Speaker 3: songs came out seven years prior. And all of our
30:48
Speaker 3: movies are set in the press.
30:49
Speaker 1: You know, when you hear a song you like, you
30:52
Speaker 1: should keep it well.
30:54
Speaker 4: Can we talk about this? We were all at the
30:56
Speaker 4: Tea Pain concert. Let's talk about it. A Spade No
31:02
Speaker 4: Kia Live twenty seventeen. We were all there.
31:05
Speaker 2: We had all gotten that industry suite. We're all invited
31:10
Speaker 2: to that industry suite to watch Teepain. So maybe geniuses
31:14
Speaker 2: are great minds think alike. Great minds think alike. We
31:17
Speaker 2: were all kind of generally talking like we didn't meet.
31:20
Speaker 2: But it was all kind of the thing of you
31:22
Speaker 2: hear a conversation happening far away, and you start using
31:25
Speaker 2: that as your own conversation.
31:27
Speaker 1: You know, yes, And you know, I want to thank
31:29
Speaker 1: you for bringing that up, because I will say, great
31:32
Speaker 1: minds think alike. Yes, great minds think in the way
31:36
Speaker 1: that we like to talk about the bow at a
31:39
Speaker 1: Tea pain concert. We were all great minds and we
31:41
Speaker 1: just simply did that. And I don't think that's any
31:44
Speaker 1: of our fault.
31:44
Speaker 4: M hm. And I'm wondering, I'm remembering something very vivid
31:48
Speaker 4: that happened. I thought teapin concert, and correct me if
31:52
Speaker 4: I'm making this up. But did Teepin get hit by
31:56
Speaker 4: a light over the head? And he woke up and
31:59
Speaker 4: he was still and so he said, I don't know
32:01
Speaker 4: who I am? Who am I? Who am I? That's
32:03
Speaker 4: the concert?
32:05
Speaker 1: Who's my wife?
32:07
Speaker 4: Who's my wife? Over and over?
32:08
Speaker 3: And then that was weird because then they played Natalie
32:13
Speaker 3: Coles this Will be an Everlasting Love, which felt weird.
32:17
Speaker 2: I think they were just trying to cover with the
32:19
Speaker 2: fact that teeth Painting was out cold at that point
32:22
Speaker 2: they had.
32:23
Speaker 3: I remember that song came on and I was like,
32:25
Speaker 3: I'm in a rom com. Oh, I'm going to write
32:27
Speaker 3: a rom.
32:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually. That was the night I knew I
32:30
Speaker 2: was going to write a round com. Not what it
32:31
Speaker 2: was about, but I knew what I was going to
32:33
Speaker 2: do in my life. I really wanted to write around.
32:36
Speaker 4: So I remember saying I have to go home now.
32:39
Speaker 5: I also said I have to go home now.
32:41
Speaker 1: We all left it the same time. We departed. I
32:45
Speaker 1: went to the north. You all went to.
32:47
Speaker 5: Do I went east, See I went north. I went north,
32:50
Speaker 5: but I went north, I went south.
32:55
Speaker 1: I went so we all got in those accidents too.
33:02
Speaker 1: We went too fast to the same direction.
33:05
Speaker 4: And I got in an accident on Seattle Street.
33:08
Speaker 5: I was on Portland Boulevard.
33:12
Speaker 1: I was on Phoenix Drive.
33:15
Speaker 3: That's weird because I took a U turn and in
33:19
Speaker 3: a in a cul de sac that the kids in
33:22
Speaker 3: the cul de sac named Austin.
33:25
Speaker 5: Did they tell you that after they rolled out the window.
33:28
Speaker 5: They told you that do they say welcome to Austin.
33:32
Speaker 5: It's a cul de sac, but we call it Austin.
33:35
Speaker 3: The kids had chalk and they drew on the ground.
33:39
Speaker 3: This is our cul de sac, This is Austin. I
33:41
Speaker 3: did a turn, a U turn. I looked down. I
33:44
Speaker 3: saw that at all.
33:45
Speaker 1: You know, I had a cul de sac kid too.
33:47
Speaker 1: You know, the dominant boy in the neighborhood gets to
33:50
Speaker 1: name the cul de sac. Ours was named Eric.
33:54
Speaker 4: I was the dominant kid in our neighborhood. I named
33:56
Speaker 4: the cul de sac Nora Ephron.
33:58
Speaker 5: Nora Ephron.
34:00
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. I loved rom coms since I was a bab.
34:04
Speaker 5: That's cool.
34:04
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, we all have to pay
34:06
Speaker 1: tribute to Nora E Frond. She is why we're all here,
34:10
Speaker 1: and we should remember that we have more in common
34:14
Speaker 1: than we do differences actually.
34:16
Speaker 3: And maybe maybe that makes Here's the thing, no, I
34:21
Speaker 3: think this. I think we should go around. These are
34:23
Speaker 3: amazing movies that all came out and all are coming.
34:25
Speaker 3: It's incredible, and I want to talk about what's next
34:28
Speaker 3: for all us because I think that'll steer the conversation.
34:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, away, I'm so excited to discuss this, and I
34:35
Speaker 4: want to thank you for bringing this up, because I,
34:39
Speaker 4: to be honest, after this whole situation decided, I want
34:42
Speaker 4: to just write something nobody else can even think of, right,
34:47
Speaker 4: I want to go as far as they possibly can
34:50
Speaker 4: away from the main mainstream schlock. No disrespect, because I'm
34:57
Speaker 4: part of it. You know, we all have but on
34:59
Speaker 4: our hands. So mine is a dystopian romance. It's set
35:04
Speaker 4: in the future. It's called shadow World, and it is
35:09
Speaker 4: about a rogue named X falling in love with a
35:16
Speaker 4: garbage princess named Princess flower Head. And they fall in
35:22
Speaker 4: love in the desert. And it is gritty, it is fierce.
35:30
Speaker 4: There is all sorts of action and fire and commentary
35:35
Speaker 4: about where our world is going some shadow lands. It's
35:40
Speaker 4: called shadow Lands.
35:40
Speaker 3: Excited shows, really, I guess I'll go next.
35:47
Speaker 2: You know, I just I've been working on this thing.
35:49
Speaker 2: I had the exact same thought of getting away from
35:51
Speaker 2: it all, you know, And so I started thinking, you know,
35:54
Speaker 2: you're just getting a lot of backlash for my push
35:56
Speaker 2: of pro alcoholism or like what I like to call PROCHOI.
36:01
Speaker 2: Because you choose, you get to choose to have an abortion.
36:04
Speaker 2: But you also should be able to choose if you
36:06
Speaker 2: want to drink alcohol and not be pressured too.
36:09
Speaker 5: So I thought, what is the world going to be like?
36:11
Speaker 2: If there's no more alcoholics. It's gonna be dry, it's
36:14
Speaker 2: gonna be barren. Probably the world is gonna lapse. So
36:17
Speaker 2: mine takes place in kind of the not too distant
36:22
Speaker 2: future after everything's kind of crumbled because there's no alcoholics,
36:26
Speaker 2: and it's about this man trying.
36:32
Speaker 4: So society is being held up by alcoholics, or society.
36:35
Speaker 5: There's no more alcoholics. These are non alcoholics, but the
36:39
Speaker 5: world because there aren't an.
36:41
Speaker 2: Exactly okay, so amazing because because it becomes so puritanical
36:46
Speaker 2: and so held down and nobody's having any fun. Nobody's
36:50
Speaker 2: out there actually having fun anymore. The world just grumbles, falls.
36:57
Speaker 5: Apart immediately, and you know, all the world leaders, nobody's
37:01
Speaker 5: allowed to drink anymore. It just crumbles.
37:02
Speaker 2: So that we meet our main character and he's just
37:05
Speaker 2: looking for a drink. He's just out there looking for
37:08
Speaker 2: a drink, and he meets this woman covered in horseshit
37:12
Speaker 2: and she says, I know a guy, so yeah, So
37:16
Speaker 2: it kind of takes place in their kind.
37:17
Speaker 5: Of adventures through that land?
37:20
Speaker 4: What's it called?
37:22
Speaker 5: This one?
37:22
Speaker 1: Is?
37:23
Speaker 5: This one I'm working on is called the dry Lands?
37:29
Speaker 4: Interesting?
37:30
Speaker 5: So interesting, It's like a really unique idea.
37:34
Speaker 4: Interesting.
37:36
Speaker 1: So I, you know, all these ugly allegations and by allocations,
37:42
Speaker 1: I'm referring to the s word that I won't use anymore, stealing.
37:48
Speaker 1: I decided to go on a retreat in a place
37:51
Speaker 1: where I couldn't be you know, not that I stole,
37:56
Speaker 1: but infected with other people's ideas, you know, the ideas
38:00
Speaker 1: that you internalize and you think of your own and
38:02
Speaker 1: then you think of them later, et cetera, et cetera.
38:05
Speaker 1: So I went as far out from society as I could.
38:09
Speaker 1: I went to a te Pain concert and I sat there,
38:14
Speaker 1: and I I went to the one at the Hollywood
38:19
Speaker 1: Bowl in really yes, yes yes. And so I sat
38:32
Speaker 1: at the Tea Pain concert with my phone and I
38:36
Speaker 1: was voice memoing new movie ideas.
38:39
Speaker 2: And for what I could really quick question, was the
38:42
Speaker 2: audio from the tee Pain concert affecting your voice memo?
38:45
Speaker 4: Where it was?
38:47
Speaker 1: Absolutely? It took a very long time. I had to
38:50
Speaker 1: wait until he would riff in between the songs and go,
38:53
Speaker 1: how's everybody doing tonight? That's when I could get some
38:57
Speaker 1: of my ideas out there.
39:00
Speaker 3: And so, oh it's fast, you're not thinking, you're not
39:02
Speaker 3: over there?
39:02
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. First draft is the best draft, That's
39:06
Speaker 1: what I always say. And so my film inspired by
39:11
Speaker 1: sort of the Ashes and the Destruction of Fire, touched
39:14
Speaker 1: on by my last film. It's sort of a scorched
39:18
Speaker 1: Earth dystopia where everything is crumbling, but two people who
39:24
Speaker 1: suddenly remember each other get to have no strings attached
39:29
Speaker 1: sex with each other, and they have to try not
39:33
Speaker 1: to fall in love.
39:35
Speaker 5: Is it no spoil it?
39:36
Speaker 2: Is it no strings because there's nobody else around? Or
39:39
Speaker 2: is it no strings because the idea of marriage has
39:41
Speaker 2: completely broken apart in this new world?
39:44
Speaker 1: Yes, so the idea of casual sex has completely fallen
39:49
Speaker 1: off the market because now in this world sex is
39:52
Speaker 1: only meant for procreation, to prolong the species, and so
39:56
Speaker 1: it's sort of a forbidden thing that they're doing. They
39:58
Speaker 1: shouldn't be having no strings attached sex, and so it's
40:04
Speaker 1: a bit of a rebellion, I would say.
40:06
Speaker 4: But yes, what's it called.
40:07
Speaker 1: So it's called scorched Land?
40:11
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, I mean to be honest, I'm I'm
40:15
Speaker 3: relieved because I'm making a movie about a rat who
40:19
Speaker 3: learns how to cook. Some movies, so thank god.
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Speaker 2: I hate Well, that sounds like fine, it sounds so great.
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Speaker 2: I will say, have you seen Ratitully? Have you seen Rataitully?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 5: Well, don't watch it.
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Speaker 4: What's this movie called the rat movie that you're.
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Speaker 3: Making, Mattaituy.
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Speaker 1: This has been Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists,
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Speaker 1: answering the question. Now, that's why they call it show business.
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.
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Speaker 4: Hi.
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Speaker 3: I am Angela Jerretana, I'm Jeremy.
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Speaker 4: Colhayne, I'm Patrick McDonald's.
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Speaker 1: And I'm Kylie Brakman. Artists on Artists on Artists on
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Speaker 1: Artists is an improvised Hollywood roundtable podcast available on iTunes
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Speaker 1: and Spotify.
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Speaker 5: You can follow us at ao ao ao a pod
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Speaker 5: on Twitter and Instagram.
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Speaker 4: That's right, four a's with three o's in between then.
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Speaker 2: Pod music for this week's episode was provided by Gabriel Ponton.
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Speaker 1: That's all for now, good night, Hollywood,