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Episode 234: Irresistable (SG-A 3.03) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and thirty four talking Stargate Atlantis and Atlantis only
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after last week little crossover episode. My name is Mitch, joining me the
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Gibsons. First of all, Brendan, I'm very well mates, Maddie,
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what's up? We'll getting into Irresistible, which I'm excited about. Fro A.
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Maddie still in the Pegasus, Still very much still in the Pegasus.
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But's a well, it's it's not about this guy, but just how much
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Beckett features and is like the first annoying one. All I can think of
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that was Maddie. I need to I need to advise this to annoying.
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I find it hilarious. Oh no, I'm not annoyed. I just I
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saw it through Maddie's At least one of you would this episode annoying? Which
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episode? Oh yeah? Fun fact about this. We're sitting with my kid's
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wife and I a couple of months ago, and we were just talking about
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songs I think for my oldest boy. We were like, did you know
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because I think Gangnam Style come up somehow. We're like, that was the
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number one song in the world when you were born. You you get to
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live with that, and then we just did a thing where we watched on
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YouTube all of the number one songs when they were born, and simply Resistible
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was the number one song when I was born. Can I just say in
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this safety of the podcast, Robert Palmer one of the most overrateds in the
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world, like grabbing that. I only realized it today when I grab that
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sample like he had that and addicted to love. It's obviously face Maddie.
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He's great. I mean, two absolute bang is, but when you actually
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listen to them, he can't sing for ship. He just needs to talk.
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He's just a talker. I of like Huey Lewis in a way.
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I like, I love Huey Lewis in the news, but he's not the
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best. I've never thought about that always because when I was a kid,
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I thought they were the same people. Yeah, there's a bit of that.
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It's I guess it's that eighties snare. Yeah, I always have what
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we're talking about the other week, have that problem with like Green Day and
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The Living End, and then like powder Finger and You two Gods so much
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better, different like so much and the Americans out there, they're a great
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Australian band. Absolutely hopefully the Living End, Living End. Oh yeah,
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they're great. Ye I bet I take Living end of a powder finger.
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That's just kind of guy, I am. I'll take them both, mate,
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would well at the same time. Yeah, that's true. Just a
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boukhak. It's great Australian music. It's irresistible. Bear kit. Okay,
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now again because we're going for the fat boy pack for you, Maddie.
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It's got no how dare you told me to call this a fat boy?
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I didn't oh that one? Okay, yeah? Fair wow he was he
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was, assuming said, I said, you guys said fat boys. Okay,
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well, thick boy, that's a thick with two seas. K's get
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out of it. Well it's got no synops seas in it. So I'm
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going over to the I M D B page. It's a little bit longer,
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so bear with me, That's what she said. Shepherd and the team
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continue their visits to new planets. Oh my god, I m dB Okay,
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if we're gonna, if we're gonna make it longer, make it worth
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it like That's that basically sums up everything post the Pilot. Terrible McKay is
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tired of all these visits, and is keen on implementing a series of gates
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that will allow I mean, sorry, this is someone who watched the opening
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scenes. Yeah you is hiding. Okay, here we go to two line
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snaps. Well, in fairness, it was where the Snops has belonged to.
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It was idea anyway, he said it was whoever wrote that's a dumb
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that through gritted teeth. But the team meets an obnoxious man who is adored
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by all thanks to a secret that he carries and who has an unexpected effect
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on I don't like that, Snops, but it is shorter and getting to
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write some, write some in place of a shitty podca week, Brendan's got
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a good one. Just on you, calling that mis forgotten strikes again,
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Just on just on you, fat shaving the box set a little funnily enough,
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according to According to Joe Malozzi, one of the early titles for this
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episode was Delicious Fat Guy. I say, as Mitchell takes a swig of
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from soft Drink, Fat soft drink all over the delicious Fat Guy. I've
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been called that's my online profile, that's my that's my dating as, it's
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my grinder and my dating app. I was excited because you guys, I'd
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forgotten about it since, but I remember as soon as I saw him pop
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up on the screen, I'm like, that's what they said, Richard Kind
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was coming. Yeah, yeah, best friend. You watch Clooney Richard kine
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that's true. Now that's a buddy cop movie I want to see. And
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the penguin you get when they spend more money. Yeah. Yeah, apparently
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George Cliney's best friend, Richard kink put in any of his movies. Yeah.
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Does he get called around to George's place to play skins basketball? Apparently?
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And they play love playing practical jokes. We see plenty of photos of
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Matt Damon with his shirt off. Yeah, no photos of Richard Kind.
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Oh, Dicky Kind, Dick Kind, that's where I'm going to refer to
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him. Yeah, speaking of dicking, yes, go on, Well,
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I just that, I mean, the question leads to my mind is just
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like Lucius is irresistible to the hotties, even though they hated him originally.
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But it's just like, can you imagine what he did to those poul women.
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I mean, he says it. He's got six wives sometimes all at
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once. Yeah, and it's like it's almost mean to give them the inoculation,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, you're going to be mentally scar
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left with those memories suddenly not enjoying those memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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it's almost better that they, you know, yes, stay hypnotized and
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I guess plagued of their own memories of their own consent at the time as
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well. Which you know, if we're talking about any of the show that
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deals with this sort of stuff, it's it's very one sided. There's no
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consent, so it's it's it's good and then there's bad. This is like
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some weird I think it depends on women. I think it depends on what
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country, And because I know in the United States, if you are under
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the influence of alcohol, your consent is necessarily legally binding. Wow, so
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you can the US of A strikes this is not alcohol. Yeah, but
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that's what I'm saying. If you're under the influence, you can give you
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consent and then sober up the next day and go, oh, retroactively,
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I do not resent for what happened. Then yeah, that's not really fair.
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Well, I guess it depends on the circumstance I suppose. I mean,
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yeah, if we had some the blood of Cosby. Yeah, that's
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one thing, that's it. But having a few vodka Smirnoffs, that's a
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different thing. Well, I guess you never know whether they've whether they've been
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whether they've been Cosby and got a bit of a Roofie in them, or
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if they're just a straight up double black. And by that I mean off
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not what you can send it to. Obviously, Maddie again, stay away
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from your online dadding program. And fans of I say this jokingly, fans
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of Stargate Universe, all three of them will, Jacob being one of them,
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will recognize Lucius's I don't know, first wife. What have you called?
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The main one, the biggest one. I was going back because I
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remember when when she first popped up on screen, called and almost like oh
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my god, yeah, oh my god, great news for everybody. She
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returns with Lieutenant James in Stargate Universe. It's like an ongoing thing. Siur's
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not a regular Yeah, universe is a completely different thing. Yeah, we
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can't even really say what's well, she's yeah, yeah that's true. But
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yeah, she's Lieutenant James. She's a she's a Stargate Command personnel. So
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she's in the in the military. She's wearing everything that the fan boys wished
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Cardi you would wear basically, you know, she's she's wearing a boys medium
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T shirt in in khaki with her with her fatigues. Do with that,
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you will once we get there. It's very It gives what was what was
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the blonde chick from the Police Academy movies. What was her name, Hula
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Han or something, whatever it was. It sounds familiar with the with the
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Aviators. It was giving very that that's not Kim Control, is it.
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No, No, she's a different person. Kim Control was in Star Trek
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Kim Control. I haven't even got these buttons ready to to be able to
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do this. I mean, is that what I'm doing? So this will
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be just impromptued trivia that went to wear That's one excellent. As I clicked
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it, I'm like, oh, that's right. It doesn't automatically just go
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off. I absolutely want to hear. I really hope, I really hope
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Aaron Rich was making a joke at the time, and I really hope it
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fits somehow. Yeah, that's really good. We're going to play that back
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now. Impromptu trivia probably for Maddie name three actors in this episode who have
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also appeared in other series of Stargate other than Atlantis. So does Richard Kind
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count being in the film? Correct? Okay, then you've got Lieutenant James
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being in Stargate universe? Yes? Does Beckett count for playing? Okay,
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there's four? Then? Okay, well I got three, so I get
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a ding? And who was the fourth? David Hewlett recurring reprising his same
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role in this A true question? Get ing? I mean, based on
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that, based on that, there's five then, because we are played in
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new order, so five? Who else anyone got? We got six?
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We should start We should start a Stargate podcast. We should We were really
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good at that kind of ship name three. Good job, you did,
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well done. But there was six? Anyone got a sixth? No?
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I mean the probably some of the background actors. Probably one of the rim
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was probably back there. Yeah, one of the one of the stunt coordinators
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or something like that. All speaking of the background, given that you two
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are like a film school nerds, this might be a little bit of something
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interesting that you guys may or may not have known about. One thing.
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And I mean, we have wonderful, wonderful background performers. On our show
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they do. They're great, But there's a difference between you know, background
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performing and acting in this case, and where you get individual performances of you
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know, wonderful spots of this. When you're looking at them as a group,
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all of them have a different view on what sick and how sick you
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know, where they're going to be. One of the rules, one of
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the rules is a director, certainly in this country, is that a director
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is not allowed to direct background performers. So even though I can see that
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there's things that I'd like to do with some of these performances and say,
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okay, just do this and this, I'm not allowed to because if I
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give them directions, then no longer background performance than their actors. With a
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background performer, you can get ten of them for the price of one actor.
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So suddenly, if you start paying fifty people the price of an actor,
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then your your budget goes through the roof. So I have to stay
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away from individually, you know, giving people direction. That's crazy. Yeah,
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yeah, so at least I don't know. I guess you would be.
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In Canada, directors can't directly direct. I wonder if you allowed to,
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like I reckon it'll be yeah, like an eight like someone else,
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tell a p he's done extra work, and you can be you can be
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told like the not the director, but the guy will come in and go
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is he going to be doing this? Pretend to talk to each other,
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and then we'll go to but no sort of direct contact with the director.
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Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, I thought, yeah, you
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you would think a director we got to go Okay, everybody, I want
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you to your ship move, especially given that one of my favorite behind the
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scenes sort of featurettes for Stargate is when Peter Delouise is doing the It's the
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Mobius Special feature and there's like a whole ten minute thing of him like yelling
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at the kid. Remember remember there was like when SG one enter the the
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little village in Egypt and there's the kid kicking the ball. It's Cully Bay
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calli bay Colli bab. It's a whole thing of Peter Delauiz being like,
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no, you idiot, get back over here and do it this way.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. I guess that kid must have been like a
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featured extra or something like that, not just a background. I'm sure his
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parents knew about it for sure, but they're speaking of not directing background extras.
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There's one next week. I watched ahead for the SG one episode.
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There's like two am in behind Viola and they have no clue what they like
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looking for someone in the base with the gun. Like it's terrible. I
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have an issue with one of them and in that episode too, so we'll
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it could be the same guy. But there's a lot of things wrong with
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next week. But anyway, the main thing wrong with this I enjoyed this
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episode. I think it's polarizing and you've definitely got to be the mood for
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it, so I can understand some people not being in the mood for it
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and going what my watching? Yeah, but I think after the you know,
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three or four heavy episodes of Atlantis, you know, leading up to
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this, it's could have something light and fun and frothy, and then given
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the next two episodes are quite heavy as well. But the main thing that
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this episode up is backet it was all I think it was more weird,
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right, I think it was weird. He was under the influence. You
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can't blame him, but you can why because the entire Atlantis Reagan I'm saying
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you couldn't the entire Atlanta's recontain all four of them went to that planet.
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None of them were affected the entire time. Obviously, Shepherd had his cold,
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and that was the running thing of why he was immune. Actually that
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could else, But Beckett could be the reason that they survived because he let
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he let I was gonna say, Mitchell, he let Shepherd go on the
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mission even though he probably shouldn't go one on the mission because he had a
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cold. But the other three, you know what I mean by that?
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Yeah, I get that. Why would he given him clearance if he were
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sick? Because he's Beckett? John Johnny Fayner, just give you a lot
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the morphine, John John wouldn't even necessary? What about that one? The
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morphine ship. Yeah, and they have given him a wee bit much morphine.
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But you're about to do surgery on hi. Wouldn't you give him a
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general anesthetic? He would he give him morephin for because he's Beckett was thinking
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about his wee baby turtles and sexually assault his play, wasting perfectly medicine.
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But here's the weird thing, and that opening scene. Lucius is just as
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forward with Taylor as he is with John and he gets right up close to
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Taylor. She is she is not interested in any way, shape or form
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to anything he's got to say. And Lucia's plays is like, oh,
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maybe he forgot that. It takes it takes a while because he's probably just
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been around the same Yeah. Maybe. But it's like even if even if
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Shepherd hadn't had the flu, he would have been immune the whole time.
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Like, if you think about it, the flu didn't actually help at all.
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Said all the end that he was the only one that didn't really make
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any much contact with him. Yeah, so it's like he didn't need the
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flu because all four of them spend as much time around Lucius as each other
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in that opening scene. And then it was only because it was only because
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they sent Beckett back. Beckett was the one that got under his throall and
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wanted to suck his dick. Yeah, because for longer. Here's Becky,
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he was there for longest, so he got under there. Here's Beckett just
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screaming, screaming, eagling between Michael and Lucius. Just like, get the
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video, Chack, this would be a gift to go up on socials,
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me going, ah, we have that every week. I hope you're not
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feeling that thought it was just between us. But then obviously, yeah,
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so Beckey gets under the thrall, brings him back to the planet, and
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then it affects everybody. But again, Taylor and Ronan are very what he
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do, resistant to it until they go and have lunch, and then it's
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only because Beckett and mackay were away. They come back and gor Becking and
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mackay. Shepherd and mackay are away. Then they come back and go what
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is wrong with everybody? If anything, Shepherd should have been the one to
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stay behind because he would have been immune, and then McKay should have been
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the one to go and go off and do whatever needs done. But then
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yeah, mckayon's ends up being under his thrall as well. Yeah, I
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don't think it was like an immunity. I feel like it was just like
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some kind of resistance. Well yeah, just obviously it's a pheromon it's a
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pheromonal thing. So him having a block nose from the cold didn't allow the
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pheromones to get in and do it, you know, do what they needed
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to do to get him under the throw. I think that was the the
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but a bit better yeah. Yeah, and then what was the I guess
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if similar to the way that remember d Daniel was immune to something because he
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takes an antihistamine or whatever, like in like Season one, that was when
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the Caveman. Yeah, that's right, he was immune to the Caveman for
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a while the Broken Divide. Yeah. And then the other thing that I
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bumped into was the opening scene they're talking about harvesting space skates and we're in
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the jumper. Yeah, I thought this planet must have had a space skate.
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That's why to me, the way it ran is we said the true
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we sent the mount through we ate, we detected humans, so we've got
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to go investigate before we can steal this stargate. But then later on when
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Beckett brings Lucius back to Atlantis, they just walk through the gate. They
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don't take a pedal jumper. So I can't tell whether the gate on Lucius's
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planet was Well, it would have had to have been on the planet because
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Lucius used it to go and do his trading and to go and get the
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drug. So why would we even have gone there if like it was a
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weird jump. It was a weird thing to say we're harvesting space gates,
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like that was the set. Obviously, that's setting up for you know when
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that when that us in, We won't spoil it for Mitch. Huh,
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yeah, he kind of laid it out. No, I just mean I'm
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not going to spoil when that when that comes back. But it's like,
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why would they have even sent Like we have the ancient database presumably that tells
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you whether it's a land gator as space skate. So while we bother sending
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a mount to this planet, when we're on the investigating space skates, while
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we send them knowing that it's a landgate, why would we send a mount
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there to find out whether it's worth harvesting. Does that make sense? Or
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am I just overthinking it? No? I guess no. I agree,
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because well let's let's lit. Oh, I've got the audio. I've got
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the audio for No, they're not in space, they're just flying No.
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Yeah, yeah, because then when you see them fly ages. Yeah,
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but you have a listening to this. We should be focusing on harvesting space
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gates. That's what we're doing. Rodney the mouth detected life signs. We
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have to check it out. That's the protocol. I'm just saying that identifying
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potential space gates to complete the intergalactic Bridge should be our priority, not making
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contact with the locals or some backwater hamlet. Are you that eager to return
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to Earth? Rodney? This isn't just about me. It is about the
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ability to go back and forth between Earth and Atlantis conveniently and whenever I want
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to. How does that work? Again? Okay, once we've seen these
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stargates across the floor in Pegasus and the Milky Way, we'll be able to
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take a jo from one to the other to the other to Reachie the side.
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That way, we won't taxes PPM, we won't be relying on the
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dadalist, and travel time between Earth and Atlantis will be cut from three weeks
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to thirty minutes. They're clever, yes, Smith, the Carter's idea so
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yeah. To me, it's like, why why would they go to a
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planet that doesn't have a space skate. It's a bit of a two for
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one. It's like they doe it up and think, oh it's a oh
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there's people here, we have to like it. Oh yeah, Landgate,
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Oh damn it. Oh well, we'll go in there anyway because there's people
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there. Yeah, but I guess in my brain, I go, well,
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shouldn't they know which is a space skate and which is a landgate before
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they I think they're happy to let us take any gate. Didn't because she
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didn't she say they're going to put they can put, they can turn it.
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Remember when Lucius says, oh, I know that planet, it's uninhabited,
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we can go there, and she's like, oh, yeah, we
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can just retro fit it to be a space gate. Yeah yeah, I
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get that. But yeah, like but Bekay basically says we're looking for space
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skates. I feel like it's probably easier to just have the dadalists come by
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and scoop up a space gate, then dig one out of the ground,
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because in the Pegasus galaxy, none of them are in those pedestals. They're
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all in the ground, and they're like, you know, fitted in the
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ground. So yeah, maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I just I
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don't know. Maybe it's just servicing two masses in that they wanted to set
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up the space bridge thing, and this was the episode where it made the
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most sense to set it up in the pre bit and then not talk about
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it again so that it made sense when it comes up. When it comes
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up as the first time, my greater I love the idea that that's a
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concept they're working towards, putting the gates in between the galaxies and all that
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sort of stuff. I'm thinking back to something that you guys, maybe it
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was last week with the black hole and the open gate and like you know
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point of origin, you know, blah blah blah. Do those gates that
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are just out in between galaxies? Like, how does that work? If
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there's no like, yeah, I will explain it. What I'm saying.
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I'm assuming that he's going to be the So I'm just putting I guess it's
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a positive number. You get, you get graphics, you get you get
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a full whiteboard. I think they might be it could be or a screen
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with Yeah, you get a full McKay like great full like he is a
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Ted talk That was a forty seven second part of that scene, and I'm
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like, oh, this is amazing, what a great idea. But I'm
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like, I've got some questions. Obviously you're not need to answer them now,
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but I just want to make sure that I'm saying you've already seen the
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technology that creates it I'll just say that. So in theory, Samantha Carter,
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when she was on Atlantis, her and McKay kind of concocted that idea.
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Well she it was her idea, but she kind of had a meeting
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with Yeah, that would that would make it McKay, well doing the Pegasus
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project. Yeah, I think that's the inference. Maybe maybe no, probably
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can't probably thought of it on the three week trip on the going surely the
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first time, so they do this all the time. I got to think
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of a way to not do this ever again. Yeah, yeah, totally,
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and at least it's been confirmed in this episode too, So it's three
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weeks each way, so three weeks you know, and then three weeks back
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which, yeah, which this new thing that they're talking about is going to
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make it down to thirty minutes and wild theory feel it because you'll be going
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through the wormhole most of the time. Well, I think that's that's something
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we'll get to later on in terms of the logistics of it. But yeah,
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I just found that interesting because, like Mitch said, we're wondering about
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using I mean, you even said the technology last week with trying to figure
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out how to get the gate to jump from one gate to the other.
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But oh yeah, as in the point of origin. Yeah, interesting,
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Dickie. He looked like he wasn't having an absolute ball in this episode,
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like just the creep factor, and like he's in a very interesting way that
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his mouth works in the way that opens when he talks, but he was
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really it was like he was really leaning into that just to like thrash around
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his tongue like some kind of sick lizard. But like, you know,
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what he was doing was you know, despicable, disgusting, blah blah blah.
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But at the same time, just like this it's it's it's weird how
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much you you you like watching that character do what he's doing without thinking about,
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oh no, that's really that's really evil. Yeah. Well, there's
24:33
obviously some really cool camera tricks they do in terms of when you first go
24:37
to Lucius's planet, they've they've dialed up the color sat tray so everything's bright
24:41
and fluffy and everyone's in bright colors and all that kind of thing. Yeah,
24:48
and then when you go back, it's all quite dark and they're pale
24:52
and pale and they're all hold like the little suddenly wearing burlapped cloaks over their
24:56
brightly colored clothes. It all looks very drab. And then when everyone did
24:59
a Lantis is under the under his throat, everything there is much brighter.
25:03
Weir has got some pink eyeshadow that she's rocking through. Their hair's kind of
25:07
like puffed up. Yeah, and she looks. Martin Wood said, finally,
25:14
that's one nice thing you've said about weird mind you you've always said,
25:18
I've always does that make it beeping that and it is up to your imagination
25:26
unless you're on Patreon and you're getting it, you're getting everything there was just
25:32
like we would apparently, yeah, there was no point there, so his
25:36
only option is to to bleep it. But martin Wood said he actually right
25:41
up until the cell scene where like Lucius is like finally gets creepy, is
25:45
talking to John through the through the cell bars. That's the first close up
25:52
in the entire episode. Up until that point, he said, he was
25:55
shooting it like a three camera sitcom where it was all just very wide master
25:59
shot to keep that sort of comedy and lighthearted it's going. So then it's
26:03
only when you get to that point, whereas I think that is when you
26:07
see how menacing and creepy Lucius really is, and then you start to think
26:11
about how whatever you Yeah, oh my god. What I want to know
26:18
is what he did to the people in Atlantis, what they have to live
26:22
with now, to the team, like not even not even necessarily, like
26:27
he obviously made them all Sucky's dick, but the things that I want to
26:32
know, like Roanan, Like he's got to go to Roan first, just
26:37
to like just to established more. Yeah, this guy was more me than
26:41
anybody. I have to do this because when he wakes up for this watching
26:45
shower, like just weird ship like that he sucked on my breaths. He
26:53
jerked off and I had to hold the towel. Yeah, like it was
26:56
just like that. See, my mind didn't go there. My mind went
27:02
to the planet because it's like, well, on the planet, obviously he
27:03
had time to do all the things that are on everyone's bucket list, like
27:07
yeah, we all have. He would have had to started getting creative by
27:11
the time he got to wife six. But there's no there's no latex dildo's
27:15
over there. They're probably using gords and he's sticking gords in our offices.
27:18
ND. Yeah, that's that candle is actually his first sex to it.
27:26
Thanks, thank you so much. Yeah, is it scentered? Yeah,
27:32
well, because you could say that it's tallow and jizz is what it's a
27:33
jiz scented candle. So yeah, no, I didn't even I didn't even
27:41
think about what he would have gotten up to on Atlanta. I mean,
27:45
clearly we got it. I mean that's that's after he got a bj from
27:49
Beckett back on the planet, before they even got back to He's definitely bisexual
27:56
and maybe beat yet. Well Lucius, yeah, because you got to it.
28:00
But this one he would have just bringing the mule like just weird ship.
28:03
Yeah, well that's that's what they. I reckon all ancients at that
28:07
point of bisexual because they've been a life for so long. Like, well
28:08
we've tried all that stuff. Let's tray all this stuff over here. You
28:11
got so Daniels. Daniels had some ancient dick. Oh, he had some
28:17
human dick, whatever you can think of, he had it. Yeah,
28:23
imagine what Lucius could do with the Jafar that had a symbio. Imagine the
28:26
kind of you get up to with that. Yeah, I wonder how it'd
28:30
be like Richard Gear with the gerbil. It's a Richid just doing some yeah,
28:36
doing some ass play with a with a goo old symbio. Was was
28:41
that meme that goes around when it says, uh, the human anus can
28:45
expand to so many inches and going around. Yeah, yah yeah, and
28:51
and and a raccoon can fit through a whole something. You can compress its
28:53
body to fit through a hole this big. So they said theoretically a human
28:56
anus can fit one and a half raccoons. Raccoon, Yeah, oh my
29:00
god. Yeah, if you're so invasive, keen to get that rabies or
29:07
whatever? Yeah, Jesus, I mean since gallons of the gallaxy, people
29:11
just have pet raccoons. Okay, makes sense. It's just sit on the
29:14
couch eating fantastic. No, I'd love a pet raccoon apart from the rabies.
29:18
That'd be amazing. Well, no, that's what I mean. Dogs
29:21
and feral dogs and cats have rabies. If you have like a domesticated one,
29:25
like a second or third generation one that doesn't have rabies, it's great.
29:29
Since they're eating grapes, they got little thumbs. I I want to
29:33
talk a little bit more about mis Forgotten herself. Doctor Weed because this episode
29:40
it is her fault because wait, I'm googling raccoons in grapes. Well,
29:42
we'll watch it, but just listen to this your favorite part of the episode
29:48
where I'll tell you that it's Weir's fault. Fair Enough, she understood that
29:52
nothing would have happened bad to Beckett's Beckett goes there, but he's been there
29:56
under the influence longer than the SGA team was, right, so he's obviously
30:00
got the lucious concoction. Yep. And then he returns with Lucius and she
30:04
choos him out and says, what do Wow, did such a great job,
30:08
Like she should have left him in that tank, but instead she gives
30:11
him a VIP room. He was still it was still an isolation room.
30:17
That a VIP room. Yeah, but if you notice it had eight had
30:21
two guards out the front of it, and it had a glass in door,
30:22
and it was separated from everything else because it's actually set wise, it's
30:26
a reuse of McKay's lab. She should have put him in the jail.
30:32
She should have kept him in that lab. He hadn't done anything technically,
30:34
he hadn't done anything wrong, so she was air. I would say she
30:37
was airing on the caution of he could still be an ally it was,
30:41
and then she exepted and then she accepts the invitation to talk to him,
30:47
what face to face without any guard. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't great.
30:52
That was yeah. I mean then like you know, just to hide
30:59
on him. When he walked in, they sit down out like before even
31:02
saying anything, and just the undressing. He did it with his eyes.
31:04
She said, what are you doing? Like at that moment, just kicked
31:07
him out, like in that scene she would have engrossed as soon as he
31:11
came in. She's like, who is this guy? Gettinghim away from me?
31:14
Don't want to talk to him? Yeah, I was listening to the
31:15
audio commentary and apparently like when they had that meeting and him back and like
31:19
she sits down on his side of the desk and like like, yeah,
31:23
that was before she gets up and goes back around the moment where he like
31:26
reaches out and touches her hand or touches he knee or whatever. That was
31:30
something he did in the moment that they didn't do in rehearsal. So like
31:33
her reaction to that was like her taking back was actually quite genuine, Like
31:37
that was just something that Richard kind in I know how to be creepy raccooned,
31:42
he gripes, look at that little guy, Look at the little guy.
31:47
I think the Bradley Cooper versions better. So what else do you reckon?
31:51
He made them do off camera, probably stuff to a raccoon. That's
31:56
the thing. It's like it's just gone beyond sexual nature at this point,
32:00
Like he's just so bored. He he's done. Like it's just like demeaning
32:04
things without even getting Yeah that's what it would honestly be. More demeaning,
32:07
just servitude sort of stuff and just sitting back making people masturbate in front of
32:12
him, just watching, Yeah, and like making you know, fight to
32:15
the deaths of the ship, just like anything and everything. Yeah. Ronan's
32:21
laugh though, super off putting. Did you guys hear that in that in
32:24
that scene where he's ma laugh because it's so over the top. You'll never
32:29
see him do it again. And when he's like when he's when he's when
32:34
he's telling the story, and then ron is like, you didn't like it's
32:40
actually he bends down and moves in front of Lucius just so he knows who's
32:49
laughing at. Yeah. Yeah, thats a great mamoa moment, that one
32:52
like you just thought like that you didn't moment and because you obviously you didn't
32:55
see. That's what I love so much about this episode. It wasn't like
32:59
you ever saw we succumb to the the drug or the herb or anything like
33:05
that. It was just like, she's so against him. Next time you
33:07
walk in the room, three more people are under his spell or whatever.
33:10
So like to see Roan and go from where he was to sitting next to
33:15
him, just like hand on his on his palms. My God tells another
33:19
story to me. I tacked my sword, I trot and I loved and
33:24
I bend over, I pick it up and I walk in triumph back to
33:29
the village. Us I do hold my giant friends. I did. And
33:35
let me tell you this, I had no trouble finding female companions. Repeatedly,
33:52
honk, there's a honk we needed that. Actually didn't even pick pick
33:58
that up the seventh time we need that horn momoa laughter, but partnered up
34:05
with the seth Rogans. Yeah, it's like a goose laughing. Yeah,
34:10
you're right. It's amazing. And the amount of times that Lucis said when
34:14
he would he would throw out a pun or something something suggestive, suggestive of
34:20
a of a sexual nature, and then we'd follow it up with if you
34:22
know what I mean, like again, we get it. I think he
34:27
said it three maybe four times across the episode, and just listening back to
34:30
it, sorry, listening back to without the visual there he sounds like he's
34:36
a card the way that Richard Kind. I don't know if he speaks like
34:37
that all the time. I obviously seen him and stuff, but again,
34:39
I think he put it on a little bit more in this He speaks like
34:43
a cartoon character with an underbite like sort of that andsh punch and it's,
34:49
oh my god, it's hilarious. Like I don't it might be the first
34:52
time a thing like maybe if I do come back and watch this episode again
34:53
in a couple of years and again later on, it might get annoying.
34:57
But as a first timer, I guess that I was not annoyed by this
35:00
episode. Rich can't you're target You go, oh my god, it's the
35:02
guy from you know, And maybe if it is someone else, that was
35:05
someone else performing, it just wouldn't have hit the same way. So yeah,
35:07
that's true. I mean, I'm not surprised that Brennan went to the
35:10
what weird sexual stuff? You know, did Lucius do? But I thought
35:14
that no, but I mean like not even the sexual. Yeah. I
35:16
just thought the thing Brenda would have highlighted the most was the story of him,
35:20
you know, saving the baby and then be like, and here's the
35:22
retart over here. I thought that he may have a little band damage.
35:29
Holy shit, you know what would do it today? That beautiful wman the
35:32
other way. That's why number eight. You didn't laugh at that, you're
35:36
dead inside. I don't care what you say. Shut up. That was
35:38
funny. Is holy ship? Oh my god? And the thing is whether
35:45
or not the thief, whether or not the story was true or not.
35:49
At least he's got like this guy. Yeah, you can't say that it
35:52
didn't happen either. No, not that guy behind her. Yeah, that
35:57
beautiful woman, the beautiful woman, move her move, I'm sure. I'm
36:06
sure. Then Becket sucked his dick too. He's like, oh, you're
36:08
the wee baby you've been You've been saved by Lucious. I must suck your
36:15
we we we just that like the different things they threw, and I mean
36:17
some of them, we were cast and once he had been cured of it
36:22
and he'd been rescued, He's like, I must get back to lucious and
36:24
I'm like they ship like that, and like and I need to get back
36:28
up there. He needs me. Like they're all just throwing They were just
36:30
like fawning over him so bad. And I loved how much the actors put
36:35
into those moments because it was so cringey and cheesy. But any other time
36:38
it wouldn't work, but it worked. I just love where desperately were when
36:42
we called that Becket and she's like, I think you're a little smitten,
36:45
and I'm like, that's a very specific term to use, and like cop
36:49
that, Beckett. You can cut well. Also also as as we did
36:52
say Christmas right again. Oh you know what, I'm going to keep that
36:58
as a sound bar. How day your your favorite? Saying that the one
37:02
that's the least favorite, I'm going to count I'm going to counter that with
37:06
my favorite soundbart of this entire episode. Okay, uner reverse Bitch, you
37:12
send a team led by Beckett to Chet. Oh and another thing about Beckett.
37:25
If you get going about Beckett, I'll go more. That's fine because
37:29
I've got plenty of Beckett gears to counteract it. I'm trying. I'm trying
37:31
to pivot and trying to play tennis again with my name. I'm trying to
37:35
collectively get us to hate on Beckett so you'll leave. We're alone. Works
37:42
at one point, can't beat him with this game. It's just like more
37:45
cake. At one point, Beckett calls Shepherd's son. He's like being kind
37:50
of like, oh, I should have far to donkey. You can't do
37:52
that, son. Now. I don't know about the I don't know about
37:55
the characters of Beckett and Shepherd, but Paul McGill and his two years younger
38:02
then Joe Flanagan and he's calling him son. Yet you Irish gym. He's
38:08
Scottish. I know that's why call him great people in Scotland. How about
38:15
that fine? It's being demeanor to him, calling him Irish instead of Scottish.
38:21
We're talking about our favorite lines. This is my favorite line, Shepherd
38:27
talking to Carson. I don't know why, but this is always one of
38:31
those lines where I say it in my life for no reason. Looks like
38:36
they're gonna get worse before they get better. I don't want to put people
38:38
through that you're doing it to me, and I know, fuck up,
38:44
Courson? What fuck up? Courson actually lips to it. When it happened,
38:51
I was like, I still remember it. He's never sounded more like
38:53
missus doubtfire than when he like whimpied, like, yeah, I should have
39:01
made something. I only watched these episodes at this episode today. I noticed
39:07
that, what was eleven o'clock this morning? You're like, what episodes doing?
39:12
Watch? Uh, fun fact for you. Right at the end of
39:16
the towards the end of the episode, when like Shepherd's got his whole plan
39:21
in motion and he's he's gotten the the turtlecker and they're they're hiding out and
39:27
he like he lets himself get caught on the little forest planet in his little
39:30
jumper and stuff like that, And there's the shot where like you see Ronan's
39:32
blaster come into frame and like point at the side of his head when they're
39:37
around the campfire. Yeah, when Shepherd lets himself get captured towards the end,
39:40
and there's like you see you see Ronan's blaster come in Shepherd. Yeah,
39:45
that's not Jesse MoMA, that's a that's a photo double. Mamma wasn't
39:49
on set that day, but he was unavailable, so they used his photo
39:52
double, so that whole scene. So what about the cutaway shot? Not
39:55
him? So they didn't do a cutaway shot. No, you just kind
40:00
of see like like you see the back of the side of him or something
40:02
like that and a voice. We were talking about a few weeks ago.
40:07
There is some kind of Ronan wig going on somewhere because for Satida's episode.
40:13
In a couple of weeks, I was watching the Bonus features and there's a
40:15
stunt double in a in a Ronanesque kind of wig getting thrown up. Mate.
40:21
If we're going to talk stunt doubles, let's go s G one next
40:23
week. Okay, terrible stuff. I'm interested. I'm interested. So yeah,
40:30
that's interesting that he wasn't even in that because he had he had a
40:34
line. Yeah, there's cutaways, yeah, not him, he was there
40:37
that day. Yeah, but they did cut They must have done the cutaways
40:39
different. Oh yeah, I think said to the stun ray. Ye yeah,
40:55
well I will be so get back delicious. What did you shoot?
41:05
Have caught another kind? Now we're going to carry him all the way back
41:09
to the jumper. Still well done. That yeah he was. Yeah,
41:16
yeah, it must have been like second Unich came in some little inert later
41:21
on. Better remember that horrible insert from was It the Evolution? Where like
41:25
Tilk has to plant the sea four onto that like the gul tank, and
41:31
you see you see overhand and then there's like a white hand that goes underhand
41:37
and puts the sea four underneath. The thing was going, Oh, I
41:42
didn't shoot that. So this was a John Paul episode. No, Joe
41:47
just said that. One of the early titles for this was Delicious Fat Guy
41:52
story by Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper, teleplay by Carl Binder Binder
41:57
and then Martin would director, Martin director, Yeah, interesting m yeah,
42:02
because again good fun episode. Yeah, it's another time I think Peter Delawise
42:07
must have been off doing other stuff, because I feel like he's not really
42:10
present much this season or season ten of this is in the Martin Wood episode
42:16
like episode Yeah, normally the comedy stuff they give to Peter Delawize. But
42:22
yeah, I'm just obviously they must have been shot out of order too,
42:28
because no man like three oh one three O two three O three all directed
42:32
by Martin Wood, so like he Martin Wood did No Man's Lands Misborgotten then
42:37
this episode, how busy would he be? Yeah, Jesus, and they
42:43
shoot them like back to back. Yeah, yeah, yes, it must
42:45
have shot them out of order or something like that. And yeah, because
42:49
they're they're like an eight day shooting turn around, because it's like they do
42:52
five days of principal photography or whatever and then three days of like second unit
42:55
and all that kind of stuff. So and obviously then they've got to go
42:59
to the editing bay and all that kind of shit as well. So there's
43:00
no way you could be prepping for next week's episode while you're still directing this
43:06
week's episode. So they must have all been shot out of order. But
43:08
yeah, he also then goes and does like I think they do that though
43:12
they work hard, but you've seen those special features director director special Yeah,
43:19
man, the amount of copious notes they have on the scripts and yeah,
43:23
the directing notes. Then goes on to do episode eight to nine of this
43:28
season as well. I wonder if you're someone like Martin who's been in this
43:30
especially this game, like the Stargate game for so long, you sort of
43:36
know the ins and the outs of the different departments and like how much you
43:38
need to be, you know, prepping for one episode while still you know,
43:43
doing some posts or another, or like whether he can thin himself out
43:46
if they are shooting them, you know sequentially, well thin himself out a
43:52
little bit more than say, he never would have done this in season four
43:54
of SG one or something, whereas now it's like, I've got this down
43:58
pad enough. It's not ideal that I doing three episodes in a row,
44:00
but we can make this work. I mean, if they're running side by
44:04
side, you're looking at like he did episode one, two and three of
44:07
Atlantis, then he does episode six of s G one, which is two
44:10
hundred, which is a big episode with a lot of different things, then
44:15
comes back and does episode eight and nine of Atlantis. There we go,
44:22
still tend to go. Yeah, Peter Deliz does episode eight of season ten
44:28
of SG of SG one, Memento Maury isn't a great one. And that's
44:34
as far as my notes go. So I don't know how many Elsey does
44:36
for the rest of the season. So yeah, but obviously they have their
44:38
stable of you know, five or six or eight. Your Niemiquita's, your
44:44
Peter West's I think it is is another one. You know, they go
44:46
to directors that they use, although funnily enough, in a couple of weeks
44:52
time with episode six, they use I think first time director Paul Zilla,
44:57
oh the Godzilla. But wait till we talk about the next Atlantics episode with
45:01
Setita, with good old Robert C. Cooper's fantastic direction. Seen that,
45:06
I'll give you a little hint. He compares himself to Stanley Kubrick at well,
45:08
of course she does, ueah and calls himself a noble leader Jesus Christ.
45:17
And not with any irony you say, like, no, no,
45:21
wonder, I hate him, you know what I mean? Like, you
45:23
know back in season one, I actually don't know why. Yeah, this
45:27
is why I'm going to sound like here that says Cooper pretentious. So at
45:30
some point, at some point he says he's not pretentious. So I look
45:32
forward to that. You've you've not got humble and humble? Just tell me
45:38
how humble I am? Yeah? Oh yeah. Should we mention why the
45:43
episode ended so abruptly last week? Oh yeah, I had to find I
45:47
had to find it out. There was like an extra thirty seconds I tried
45:51
to work with, but there was no clean out. Whereas it. I
45:53
just it was clean enough because, yeah, when we were recording, I
45:55
should actually do some kind of thing. Well, the audio kind of lets
46:00
the audience know that it's we had the music build. Yeah, but anyone
46:04
thought it was a bit of a weird ending last week, it's because as
46:06
we were recording, the fire alarms went off in the studio. Yeah,
46:08
the silent fire alarms we just had. We just had red red lights start
46:12
flashing in our faces and we're like, what does that mean? We finished
46:15
recording? Well, yeah, and then you know, cut to ten minutes
46:19
later, we're outside and there's a fire truck showing up and it was what
46:22
one o'clock in the morning, And that the alarm in studios because it's like
46:28
you need to get out of the building, but also you might be on
46:30
air on radio, so we're not going to make it loud. Whereas once
46:32
we get into the street, that thing was wailing. Yeah, And part
46:37
part of the part of the fire alarm, like the automation in the studios,
46:39
is it opens and unlocks all the doors and roller doors and stuff around.
46:44
So the alarms inside of blaring to all the apartment buildings around here,
46:50
you don't want to up the edit. No, it makes sense. You
46:52
know you might be interviing Troy Savann. You don't want to forget that,
46:54
you know, Yeah, you might have to smash through the soundproof glass jump
47:00
out of the three, but it's only an ex woolshed that would go up
47:04
with a match by time that Actually, once I looked at the video from
47:07
the moment, we said, okay, we better go. But I'm like,
47:10
well, you know, I've got to shut down the computer, and
47:14
I've got to do this, and I've got to do that, and this
47:15
one o'clock in the morning. This is clearly not a drill. It took
47:21
me, I think, four minutes and twenty seconds to leave the studio,
47:25
and we're right, this is no woolshed. We were like four minutes,
47:29
we're done. We're gone in four minutes, So we're responsible. We didn't
47:32
take the left we took the stairs. Yeah, we did the right thing.
47:36
So I clearly took it. I left my Stargate toys behind. I
47:37
had my glider, my they're still here. My three O two the left
47:42
behind, which is probably like to it. It's like my astro glide.
47:49
My three O two like a shoehorn for you where's that raccoon? Three oh
47:53
two? That's how he sent me. As it is around. Wow,
47:59
I really did the same podcast I talked about I love watching raccoons in in
48:01
grapes and also the fact you're gonna fit one and a half raccoons in your
48:05
ass, that that's not gonna age. Well no, and now, I
48:07
mean we want to talk about so much our phones are just gonna go.
48:12
Yeah, that's sort of content. Now, so let's play it again,
48:19
all right, mean thing about the pony one and a half. Get into
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