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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian we've
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  podcast. Today's guest is 8.
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  Which streamer a variety streamer.
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  Staff member at Norco. A professional extreme are all
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  around. All the way from New York City.
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  She goes by the pseudonym. L, A Dream Ellie dream.
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  Welcome to the show, how you did.
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  Hi, you did say, all right? It's all I dream.
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  So I need you. Okay.
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  Everyone thinks that it's a like, the beer that actually
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  actually kind of ticks me off. Like, no, it's not beard ale,
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  but nobody knows. Is my actual last name and they
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  don't understand the reason why it's all I do the pronouncing a
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  pronunciation. I can't even say that word can't
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  pronounce pronunciation correctly of my last name
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  because it has an S sound so Allah say instead of e or a.
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  So yeah, let's there's a little phonics for you.
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  Yeah, I spent quite a few years abroad in Europe, so I'm kind of
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  used to pronouncing I suppose standard letters.
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  Alphabet in different ways. So whenever I see like something
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  like this, I kind of go, maybe it's pronounced the other way
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  and I sort of try it. And you know what else you got
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  it? You're good.
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  You got it right? Let's dive straight into it.
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  When did you first get into streaming and what do you love
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  about it? I started streaming IRL
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  streaming in third-party sites about like maybe four years ago.
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  Maybe longer I always lose count but I definitely started around
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  my 20. He's of streaming on to
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  third-party apps and then later on in it.
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  After that, during that time, I switch over to game streaming
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  instead of just doing just chatting streams on my phone.
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  Because you know, you guys those apps that you just go live and
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  your phone is your camera. And then you see the little
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  screen with the chat in the bottom on your camera.
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  And that's how you like communicate with your viewers.
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  So, if you found that to be a sort of a massive difference, in
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  terms of Engagement, since you made the move from IRL to
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  gaming. So, that's funny.
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  You say that? I felt like when I did IRL, I
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  definitely had more engagement because I actually did a test on
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  this. A while back.
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  When I did Facebook gaming, I couldn't do game streaming.
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  So I was visiting Arizona and I literally was just chilling in
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  the backyard. I hit the live button and it was
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  just Me and the background. No green screen.
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  No game. And immediately 40 to 50.
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  People came just to watch me as me instead of me in front of a
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  game. So, definitely just chatting and
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  in real life. Streaming has a bigger number of
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  yours than actual game streaming.
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  But I always prefer game streaming in my eyes.
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  So, yeah, I get the same thing as well.
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  I've started doing. Yeah, I suppose just discussion
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  Streams or sometimes amas or whatever, and they always get
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  way more engagement and I just it's interesting a couple of
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  people have said in the chat like oh I like listening to you
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  talk. And I'm like, why like it's one
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  thing to see why ever really cute accent.
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  So I think I think that's why your accent is very of
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  welcoming. I mean the thing is they're like
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  like sometimes these streams are very long so it's like an hour.
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  Two hours and I think sometimes don't get me wrong.
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  We have good conversations in there.
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  But when I compare that to the game and streams, I just think
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  overall that's more interesting because you have a combination
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  of both. So it's like, I'm sure, you
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  know, I'll put you, but we don't have this issue anymore.
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  But you know, when you first started doing the game and
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  streams, you have like streams, we're just no one's coming in
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  but you've got the game into focus on.
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  So then people come in, they even start a conversation or
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  they don't either way, there's content there.
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  Whereas the problem I find is if If it's IRL stream.
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  Then you've kind of got to just talk until people come in and
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  then start the engagements or factor.
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  It's true. I actually agree with that.
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  Like the gaming definitely makes it much easier.
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  The fact that you actually are keeping your mind occupied while
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  waiting for someone to say hello to you in the chat.
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  Usually, when you're starting to game streamer game stream,
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  doesn't actually push live until Maybe two to three minutes as
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  you hit the like button because I hit the like button.
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  I don't like a my life yet and I see a buffering, I'm like, okay
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  I'm not live yet and then all of a sudden the boxes.
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  Hey Allah, Jim is live playing. So and so and what it was.
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  So and so, so and then people just start coming in because
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  they get the notifications and a lot of people don't understand
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  the importance of notifications or Dare, just used to your
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  consistency of a schedule. So I always tell my viewers,
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  make sure have those notifications.
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  Vacations on. And if you don't have those
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  notifications on join my Discord because Discord Novick, if
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  notifications are so accurate, I love the Discord notifications.
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  Have you always done that? The, the sort of calls to
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  action? Because this is something that
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  I've started recently, I used to be quite like, I'll never do
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  that. You know, if people want to
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  subscribe, they can just subscribe button.
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  Then the couple of my Streaming Friends were saying to me.
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  No, no, I asked them to because otherwise, they won't and When I
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  started doing that suddenly you know the numbers start slowly
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  going up and there's more engagement and so have you done
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  that from the from the get-go or did you sort of trial it or
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  something? So as I hit affiliate on Twitch
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  in the beginning I did ask just in the beginning to go to try
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  and then instead of asking I just put a gold bar and let it
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  and let my stream acts for itself.
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  And then I set a timer on my chat or is it?
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  So if you're a prime number, Make sure to use that free Prime
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  so you could get a free sub but I don't have to say it out of my
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  mouth. There's always that one person
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  that's super generous to give a bunch of subs and then there's
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  the that viewer that will constantly resub just for my
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  content. Like I get so like mesmerized
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  every time I hear the resub song and I see someone saying resub
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  for six months straight, 10 months straight yesterday
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  someone resub for 10 months straight and I'm like This is so
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  cool that we first continuing to return to check out my content
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  and they were sobbing. It means I'm doing something
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  right. So I think it works in both
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  ways. People could either ask or just
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  you know, go with the flow and expect the unexpected which is a
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  model I live by awesome. Awesome.
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  I gotta say like I do Envy you and because I'm not just
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  yourself I have other The stream of friends who were doing really
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  well. And I've been streaming, I'll be
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  okay quite quite recently since March of last year but I still
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  haven't hit that affiliate thing yet and it's last year.
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  That's correct. Yeah, me too.
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  I oh, okay. Well then I love Facebook gaming
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  around the beginning of March and I hit affiliate on Twitch
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  and March 13th. I'll make a year this March.
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  Did you presumably? You had a following And like a,
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  quite well established following prior to that.
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  Yes, I left my Facebook account with 10,000 followers to start
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  over on Twitch. So how many of them migrated I'd
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  say more like 70 to 200 of them, which is a very, very big
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  number. If you think about it, it
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  definitely the ratio is way off, but I feel like it's more
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  authentic on Twitch then Facebook because what happened
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  is Facebook, literally just automatically superficially
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  inflates, your numbers and all the stuff because it's linked to
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  your personal account. So automatically if you do have
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  three thousand friends on your Facebook account, those three
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  thousand friends will automatically like your page
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  unless they get the notifications too much and
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  unlike your page, and then if you, then there's this thing
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  called boosting, where you pay a certain amount.
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  Want to advertise your page for sponsored posts and that helps
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  you grow your page. But financially, not
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  organically. So, Facebook has all these
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  marketing tools to help you grow your page.
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  But just in numbers, not in a density intense to the city, I
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  can't say the word. You know what I mean?
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  Like, a fantastic organic views, and it's just, it's just
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  discouraging. And with twitch, it's actually
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  harder to grow. And I've noticed that little by
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  little, but as I keep streaming and I keep doing what I'm doing
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  and I keep changing it up and keeping a consistent schedule.
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  I do see returning viewers and I do see that the number is
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  growing slowly, but surely it is a marathon, not a race.
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  Absolutely nice. It's interesting.
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  You bring that up because, you know, I've used Facebook over
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  the years for various different things and I do use it as a Sort
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  of a basis for Content but it's kind of like an afterthought
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  like I put stuff on there that, you know, it's like YouTube
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  twitch and then everything at well as, you know, Instagrams in
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  there and then everything else and I kind of feel like because
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  Facebook does this stuff a night like that, they do kind of try
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  to hide your organic reach or try to stop you and this is
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  where I find it funny because sometimes even in despite of
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  that other things can help you out like hashtags.
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  Like I have this video that was part of a Which series that I
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  did which was like I know things that 90s kids will remember or
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  something. That's just like five videos.
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  One after the other. Right?
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  And one of them for some bizarre reason got like 17 thousand
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  views so no one thousand seven hundred views but 100% organic,
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  so no pain nothing right. And I'm sitting there,
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  scratching my head. Like how is this possible?
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  Especially since Facebook tries to bury you all the time.
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  And of course, you know, if you are paying to boost your It's
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  there's the issue of like how they actually sort of do that
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  for you. So like I've seen campaigns not
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  just in streaming but just in general like for certain
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  businesses of work for over the years where let's say, you do a
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  seven-day campaign and then sometimes they won't start the
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  campaign until that final three days and then just shovel of
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  that money into the final three days.
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  But they won't actually like, Put it where you want to put it
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  or spread it evenly or whatever, so it's like a wasted campaign
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  essentially, but I've heard more bad than I have sort of good.
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  So it's interesting that you have had some success there, but
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  then again, Facebook gaming is sort of totally different to
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  just everything else that's available on Facebook, but so,
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  that leads me to my next question.
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  Like, why did you actually decide to make the the switch?
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  Because that's a big deal. You had 10,000 followers, and
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  you've essentially almost like started from Scratch that
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  obviously you have people migrated but a lot of people
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  weren't willing which to me is interesting as well because I
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  feel like Twitches of far better platform, just for streaming and
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  also, you know, engaging with the content, just as a viewer.
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  So yeah, it was just a little bit about that.
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  Soul of effect is said that because I do like that which is
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  more an ominous since on Facebook everything you see
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  their real names and everything and the reason why I actually
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  left Facebook was Because I was getting frustrated.
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  I felt like I was in growing enough.
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  My Views weren't matching my numbers.
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  I've been through situations of like streamer drama on Facebook
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  and then on top of that, I went to a Facebook meeting and came
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  back to my Facebook account not less than two days after.
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  And my account was locked for a month.
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  So I could even access my personal page and I couldn't act
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  with anything. Even stream and it was very
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  frustrating. And it's the fact that the
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  personal page was the most worrisome, I really couldn't
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  care less about the Facebook gaming page because I could just
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  start over my personal page. I've had that since high school
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  and I did not want to lose that. So I felt like, okay, I don't
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  want to be walking on eggshells. If they do give my account back
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  which they did, they give my account back after a month and I
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  still don't understand why I was locked.
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  They said, either, I was getting hacked or Something or some
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  excuse but, and during that time, when I was locked out of
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  Facebook, I gave YouTube a try and Twitter try and then mixer,
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  of course, you know, mixers no more but I gave those three
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  platforms to try and I prefer twitch, I didn't like YouTube.
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  I felt like you took was a little toxic.
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  It's like when I was playing the first person shooting game so,
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  you know, this sexist remarks and the harassment was Coming at
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  me. And I'm like, no, I can't deal
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  with that. And I did twitch.
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  It's interesting. I got to sit, so, to interject
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  here. But like, fine.
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  I really wanted because I feel like, you know, ten years ago,
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  you could always expect that. Like, it was almost that's, you
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  know, probably longer than that. Like, let's say, 13 years ago.
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  It was very common to hear like sexist comments in like, you
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  know, Call of Duty lobbies and staff.
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  And, you know, just just in general, gamer girls was just a
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  new anomaly or, you know, not It wasn't common like these days,
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  everyone games and it's amazing to me and I really like the fact
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  that that's happened, but I'm just surprised to hear that
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  there's still that. I mean, obviously there's going
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  to be sexiest races, just assholes online but it surprises
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  me that you were mainly getting that because what, I'm seeing a
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  lot now with female streamers is what, you know, these Simpson in
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  cells and stuff. And the only aggression tending
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  to be sort of emanate from Mike If they get annoyed something
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  you do like I don't know the setup when poke when people
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  found out the Pokey, main had a boyfriend and suddenly they all
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  got annoyed which I just found a bit puzzling but some so I'm
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  kind of surprised to hear that if I'm honest.
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  Like I don't know if that's a good point because you know the
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  viewers see this illusion and you know, some of these viewers
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  are either, you know, dealing with personal issues.
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  Is or, you know, maybe they're lonely and they choose to watch
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  a streamer because they're entertained.
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  They actually like the content and of course, they find out
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  something like that. That's like drastic change to
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  them because they think they have a chance but Steven is not
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  a dating site and people need to definitely get that in their
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  heads. It's not a dating site.
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  It's a site where people could get their Hobbies like do their
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  Hobbies or do it as a courier or All those type of stuff but
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  people need to consider that and yes harassment and sexist
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  remarks actually have gotten worse during this days because
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  of the competition. There's been so many
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  competitions and tournaments, and we're constantly getting
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  criticized. We're getting criticized,
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  either. For either being a good player,
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  a bad player better streamer, the bad streamer selling
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  ourselves, not selling ourselves.
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  Now, being provocative enough and all those things and it's
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  very Very, very frustrating because there are girl, gamers
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  out there gamer girls. I don't want anyone like label
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  us out there. That's actually putting out
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  content, and instead of the content being seen, it's mostly
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  overlooked, these other type of streamers, and I've nothing
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  against them. If it works for them, it works
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  for them, but I would not do that for myself as my market.
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  You know, they portray themselves as that way, and
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  they're successful and good. Them.
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  But you know, a lot of people just likes to just criticize and
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  judge and it's a very very very very very hard Market gaming,
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  marketing streaming. All those things with the media
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  is definitely, you're signing your signing yourself for either
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  success or failure. No matter what.
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  It's just how you portray yourself and how serious are you
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  going to take it? So so yeah it's just it's
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  retainer ridiculous. I agree.
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  I think it really is. I mean, I think it partially
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  emanates from a couple of things that one thing is obviously just
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  jealousy and people being assholes.
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  I think there is an element of Truth in the statement that if,
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  if you're a female and you set up a stream or, you know, like
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  an Instagram page or something like that, you just
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  automatically gain followers. And I don't even think because
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  some people go, oh, that's sexist.
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  To say it's not, it's just Like reality, it just happens and I
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  don't know why. I mean there's a lot of reasons
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  why that could be. I think it's just one of those
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  things in life generally just happened but obviously the
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  danger from that is. Yeah.
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  You face a lot of backlash because then people will say, oh
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  well you know you only have followers because you're a
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  female and blah blah blah but that's horseshit because like a
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  streaming is very, very difficult.
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  Like I didn't realize until I started streaming.
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  I thought, oh, that's easy. You just sit.
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  Turn the Omron, no problem. But no, you gotta like be
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  invest. It's the same as this doing a
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  podcast or even doing a YouTube video, you know?
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  But the difference is with a YouTube video, was that 20
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  minutes and then relax, whereas with the twitch stream or a
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  stream in general, you've got to be active engaging for like 23,
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  or maybe more hours. And that is tiring.
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  People don't sort of understand, How much like that takes of you?
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  That's why, for instance, when I see people post like, hey, I'm
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  going to take a mental health break, blah, blah, blah.
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  I'm going to take some time for myself and people go, screw you,
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  you don't do anything but they just don't get it cause it's
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  like, it takes so much of your energy and yeah, I get it
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  sometimes I've had mental health issues from time to time and one
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  thing I always say about that is that you have to take a bit of
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  time away and just kind of Not do anything, essentially, almost
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  like hibernate sleep and then come back to it and you're so
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  full of life again. But if you just continue, you
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  just burn out. That's just the reality of the
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  situation. Yeah, it's funny.
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  You actually mention about the burning out because I've dealt
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  with, like burnouts and that major burnouts.
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  I haven't got to that point that I take like, either a full month
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  off, but I did almost got to the point when I used to play.
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  Competitive multiplayer games because the multiplayer
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  competitive games, actually, drain me even faster than actual
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  single player, story games. And my anxiety went off the
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  roof, and I didn't want to stream any more because
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  everyone's like, play this game. Play this game.
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  It was so much pressure on me, and since I made the switch
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  from, not me playing multiplayer games, and playing single-player
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  games, playing virtual novel games, like reading stories to
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  my viewers, I feel A better relaxed, I feel relaxed.
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  I feel I feel like I accomplished something and I
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  feel like streaming every day, definitely helped me.
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  But now that I'm changing my schedule a little around, I'm
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  only going to be streaming four days a week.
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  Some of my viewers, hate it, some of my viewers, understand,
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  some of my viewers are like perplex, but real life happens.
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  I have to take care of your Life's real life
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  responsibilities, especially Sleep face starting a new job.
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  I have school. I have all those things that I
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  have to take care of because you know streaming does not pay your
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  bills, sometimes it does. But I'm not to that point that
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  it pays all my bills yet. I have to little by little grow
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  and continue working hard at what I'm doing.
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  But at the same time, health comes first.
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  I have to definitely take care of me first.
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  So, of course, there's reviewers are going to get upset at me
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  that I'm going to take a lot of breaks or I take a lot of days
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  off, but It'll make them, miss me more, so it has its pros and
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  cons. He would that being yet.
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  Because you just not like honestly, like, because I often
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  say this to people, when they go, why don't you stream more?
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  And it's like, well, you know, we haven't been able to get
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  affiliate in. I don't know you like a year
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  close to a year now. And so, I've had to let
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  re-evaluate what I do and think about, hey, what's going to
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  bring it money because this isn't bringing me in money at
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  It's taking all of my time but it's not bringing in money but
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  it will one day and that's the thing.
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  Yes, the way you got to think in the way you got to approach it
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  but yeah, it's a juggling act isn't.
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  Especially if you have to have like full-time employment, I've
• 22:08
  been lucky in the sense that I don't know if you would call it
• 22:11
  a lot greatly but since February of last year, I've been
• 22:15
  unemployed for like the first time in my life.
• 22:17
  And so I've been like freelancing in my field of
• 22:20
  marketing here and there and just Kind of Getting By, but the
• 22:24
  one thing it did give me, which is sort of a blessing in
• 22:27
  disguise is all of this time to do this.
• 22:30
  And so I thought, well I'm not going to sit around and mope.
• 22:33
  I'm just going to do this and go for it.
• 22:35
  And this is the thing as well, like with what you were saying
• 22:38
  about having a schedule and like, you know, sticking to
• 22:41
  that. I actually think that it's
• 22:42
  better that way as opposed to just like, you know, streaming
• 22:45
  every day. Streaming all the time.
• 22:47
  Like all creating videos all the time.
• 22:49
  It's not about quantity. It's about quality.
• 22:52
  Yeah. And another interesting thing as
• 22:55
  well as it's totally different for every single streamer or and
• 22:59
  YouTube. So for example, I found that the
• 23:04
  only time I really get proper engagement on my streams, is if
• 23:07
  I do like the restream thing where it's on YouTube twitch and
• 23:12
  daddy live or something, and it's like a talking discussion
• 23:16
  stream which I do like once a week or something.
• 23:19
  And then also to gaming streams or One gaming stream on the End
• 23:23
  as well and sort of stick to that schedule just like every
• 23:26
  weekend. But I found if I do it more I
• 23:29
  think there's that thing of like, well, people can just kind
• 23:32
  of catch you then. And, you know, I don't need to
• 23:34
  watch this stream because I can just catch them whenever.
• 23:36
  But if it's like, you know, certain amount of times 3 or 4
• 23:40
  times a week. It's like, well, they're not
• 23:41
  streaming the other day. So this is my only chance, I
• 23:44
  gotta make sure I'm there for it.
• 23:46
  So it's actually less is more, is actually a kind of a more
• 23:48
  effective strategy, I reckon. Yeah, definitely a less-is-more,
• 23:51
  it definitely could. Work.
• 23:53
  It doesn't work for all the streamers, but definitely at
• 23:56
  your part, if you think, less than is more will help you out,
• 23:59
  then do it. Especially there's a lot of
• 24:02
  games that you could actually interact your audience to play
• 24:07
  with you. Like, there's Jack box party.
• 24:10
  There's words on stream which words on stream is actually free
• 24:13
  and all they have to do is type the words in the chat and it
• 24:15
  pops up in the game. And yeah, there's a lot of
• 24:18
  things that could actually help your growth and setting a set
• 24:22
  time. And day, and keeping that
• 24:26
  momentum will totally get. You an affiliate, like, how far
• 24:29
  is it? Because of the viewership
• 24:31
  followers. Oh, it's hopeless for me, it's
• 24:35
  the viewership thing. I think it's unlike last time, I
• 24:39
  looked it's like zero point 6, over 3.
• 24:42
  My advice is definitely, you know, be annoying that annoying
• 24:47
  more than annoying. That's he's like on Twitter and
• 24:51
  then tag people that you think will a We like you and tag them
• 24:54
  and then be like, retweet. This, let's get me to affiliate.
• 24:57
  Also put, like a catchy title. Is everyone pretty much everyone
• 25:01
  in my community is content creators, he's nothing.
• 25:06
  Like I remember I said to one of my friends shout out to but most
• 25:09
  of coal because he was setting up a podcast and he was like,
• 25:13
  said he was inspired to do it because he saw my podcast and he
• 25:16
  was like, yeah, awesome. I'm gonna do it.
• 25:18
  And I was and he's like, you know, I support you like
• 25:21
  whenever I can and stuff and I was like, I sort of made it off
• 25:24
  cut off the hand kind of joke to him.
• 25:26
  I was like, once you start doing that podcast you will not have
• 25:30
  the time to watch my content, trust me and within a month or
• 25:35
  two. Yeah, he doesn't have the time.
• 25:38
  He's very busy guy. I mean, he has like three
• 25:40
  YouTube channels and he does Instagram.
• 25:42
  He's he's, he's the same as me. We both never take a break, both
• 25:46
  kind of go crazy with the content, but it's true.
• 25:49
  You know, it's like when people send me stuff like, hey, please
• 25:52
  support me. Please, you know, check out my
• 25:55
  content. It's like I would love to, but
• 25:58
  I'm busy this, not just with this stuff, but with like real
• 26:02
  life stuff as well, and it's like, you know, I don't really
• 26:06
  kind of agree with the whole, you know, like for like, watch
• 26:10
  for what? Oh, no, no, no, no.
• 26:13
  That's a No-No because it doesn't make your numbers grow.
• 26:15
  Its just like I said, it's like the Facebook thing.
• 26:18
  It's an illusion, it's not organic.
• 26:21
  It's just a number. And you don't want to be a
• 26:24
  number, you know, you want to be going to be that special viewer
• 26:28
  or something. But the I actually said
• 26:30
  something last night, I visit someone stream and I love their
• 26:34
  content. And this content creator
• 26:37
  streamer took their time of their night or day and came to
• 26:42
  check out my stream. Yeah.
• 26:43
  I love the fact that when streamer is come over to another
• 26:46
  streamers page and they either come for either inspiration or
• 26:50
  they want to check out what the streamers about and Why this
• 26:53
  tumor has a certain amount of numbers?
• 26:55
  How is she in? He she or he or she is
• 26:58
  interacting with their chat and it's like a Learning lesson and
• 27:03
  it's actually good because, you know, Steamers are teachers when
• 27:07
  you're watching a streamer, you're either learning how to
• 27:10
  play a game or you're just observing their behavior and
• 27:14
  their personality but the thing I do not like is when someone's
• 27:19
  like I want to be just like you I want to be you know.
• 27:22
  I just want to have that. Perky personality and stuff, and
• 27:25
  I'm like, no, you don't. I'm in real life.
• 27:27
  I'm not this perky. I'm actually a very shy.
• 27:30
  Introvert social awkward person that you wouldn't even recognize
• 27:34
  I'm the same person on stream and exactly the same as funny,
• 27:42
  as well. Like, loads of people have said
• 27:43
  that to me because I used to be like really, really, you know,
• 27:46
  basically this in real life, over the years, I've become, I
• 27:51
  call it an omnivore. I like but I'm younger depends
• 27:55
  on which way the wind blows, you know, like to give you an
• 27:57
  example sometimes, you know, and bear in mind I've been in bands
• 28:02
  over the years. I've performed in front of lots
• 28:04
  of people, I'm used to being around people, but the same
• 28:07
  time. Now, I have this thing.
• 28:11
  I can't control it. Really weird.
• 28:13
  I wonder if there's actually a name for it, but it's like,
• 28:16
  sometimes I walk into a room and they be loads of people and I'm
• 28:19
  fine. I'm like, yeah, cool.
• 28:20
  Yeah, whatever. I'm up for talking partying,
• 28:22
  whatever. Sometimes I walk into the room,
• 28:24
  see that and go. How can I get as far away from
• 28:27
  these fucking people as possible and like hide in a corner maybe
• 28:30
  read a book. I don't know, I don't know.
• 28:34
  Is that the older I get the shot?
• 28:37
  So, yeah, the older you get the shower, you get because when I
• 28:41
  was younger, I used to do a lot of performances.
• 28:44
  I'm a singer. And I used to do, like, I had a
• 28:47
  tour, two years ago that I performed in local malls and
• 28:51
  stuff. And I had to sing in front of
• 28:52
  people and then I performed in restaurants and singing.
• 28:57
  And yeah, I didn't feel shy when I get on stage, but I feel shy
• 29:02
  before hand. And then when I go to parties, I
• 29:05
  don't even want to talk to people.
• 29:06
  I just go on the Or nurse it on my phone or just like listen to
• 29:10
  music and wave at people. But yeah, I don't like to be
• 29:14
  around people during this time and especially when I was
• 29:19
  younger, I always want to be around people.
• 29:22
  I always wanted to like just be part of the In Crowd but now I
• 29:27
  just I try to stand out and I just try to get away as far as
• 29:31
  possible of people. I think the problem is as well
• 29:35
  as like as you get older, you start Seeing through the pain of
• 29:38
  my language like bullshit. And what I mean by that is like
• 29:41
  when you're at a party or something like that, especially
• 29:43
  when you're younger, like a lot of the time, it's like, who has
• 29:46
  the best story who can show off the most, who is Janome, you're
• 29:50
  constantly having to prove yourself and sort of fit in and
• 29:54
  a couple of years ago, or maybe like five years ago.
• 29:56
  Or so, I kind of realized like, I'm one of those people that
• 30:00
  doesn't fit in which is actually kind of a blessing because it
• 30:04
  means I can just be myself. But, you know, Two other people
• 30:07
  that comes across as like antisocial but it's okay, I
• 30:11
  understand. But it's a choice Factor, you
• 30:13
  know? And the reason I said I'll never
• 30:15
  earlier is not just because of the behavior thing is also an
• 30:18
  energy thing so like it takes a lot of energy to be as you say
• 30:24
  like bubbly, you know, full of life.
• 30:27
  That's why it's hard to stream for that exact reason but at the
• 30:30
  same time it really depends on the company because sometimes,
• 30:35
  you know, you'd be with someone and you.
• 30:37
  And you could be talking to that person all night long and not
• 30:39
  get tired at all, and it's great.
• 30:41
  But like, how often does that really happen often?
• 30:43
  It's like, Just just trying to put that energy out there trying
• 30:48
  to be sociable but nothing's really kind of coming of it and
• 30:51
  you're like, oh why did I even come out?
• 30:53
  And this is what he's kind of like you know, that you should
• 30:57
  be out you should you know, young should be out doing what
• 31:00
  we what we can but at the same time it's like I don't know I
• 31:04
  think as you get older you kind of pick and choose your moments.
• 31:08
  Maybe that's the face brings. No little dog.
• 31:12
  Definitely I agree 100%. Especially as the streamer.
• 31:19
  You're worried about your image or worried about what you're
• 31:23
  putting out there. You're worried about how and
• 31:28
  how, and what you're going to do when, and it's just so many
• 31:32
  questions and it Definitely would drive a person insane
• 31:37
  because, you know, time is Limitless.
• 31:41
  And then at the same time it just goes away.
• 31:44
  So fast, especially being a nighttime streamer, I realized
• 31:49
  time goes way quicker than daytime.
• 31:52
  And I'm, I'm like, nocturnal in a way because I'm more active at
• 31:56
  the night time, like this right now.
• 31:59
  This is not how I am. I'm this is like just being
• 32:02
  chilling collected at the Moment, I'm not a morning
• 32:05
  person. I don't like mornings.
• 32:07
  I love the nighttime and and that's why I chose to see.
• 32:12
  I can see, I totally enjoy the night time and I also have like
• 32:17
  a sleeping disorder, so it definitely interferes with that,
• 32:21
  especially with the having minor insomnia and narcolepsy, and I
• 32:28
  do got to take these Nat and mandatory naps to help me
• 32:31
  maintain my immune system. And of course Stay alert because
• 32:37
  there's times that I do like last night.
• 32:39
  For example, I started my stream at midnight Eastern Standard
• 32:43
  Time and I usually go up to 3:00 but I couldn't do it anymore.
• 32:47
  My body was telling me. Okay you're exhausted go to
• 32:51
  sleep. I like to Way Emma.
• 32:52
  Like all right. Yeah I know you want to continue
• 32:55
  this case but my body is telling me I should go.
• 32:59
  And that means you're going to sew.
• 33:02
  So yeah, it's definitely. Ali, I don't argue with my body.
• 33:06
  If I feel tired and I feel exhausted and I need a break, I
• 33:09
  will I would just do it because I don't want to harm myself or
• 33:14
  have my viewers worried about me because there's times, they
• 33:17
  don't worry about me. That's good.
• 33:19
  At least they care, you know, because I mean, obviously she
• 33:22
  detailed earlier sometimes people don't understand.
• 33:24
  And I feel that that's, it's quite selfish, really, you know,
• 33:27
  I mean, it's like, we all need breaks, we all need to, rest to
• 33:32
  sleep, you know, all of these things and I think the more
• 33:36
  given you are as a content creator, you know, in a way, I
• 33:39
  know how this will make sound. But in a way the more great for
• 33:42
  your audience should because I mean it does take a lot of
• 33:45
  energy and time and effort. And you know, like I always have
• 33:48
  kind of a employed, the rule of like well if I have an idea and
• 33:52
  I have the energy, I'll just do it, I'll go for it.
• 33:55
  But if I'm not feeling up to it, you know, sometimes I don't I
• 33:58
  don't post anything, I don't do anything and, you know, I think
• 34:02
  sometimes it's good to just Do that and then come back to it
• 34:05
  because you do always end up coming back.
• 34:07
  More kind of fresh often with newer ideas but yeah, your
• 34:13
  audience does need to be a bit more reasonable when it comes to
• 34:16
  that. But anyway, moving it on.
• 34:21
  What would you say is your favorite type of content to
• 34:23
  stream? My favorite type of account is
• 34:27
  definitely video games. I love video games, no matter
• 34:29
  what it is, the just chatting streams are great, definitely
• 34:32
  brings more momentum, but they're actually more exhausting
• 34:36
  and I have to be careful what I say.
• 34:38
  And I had to be careful of what topics to talk about, especially
• 34:42
  their sensitive and triggering topics that shouldn't be spoken
• 34:45
  about on stream. So, So, with the video game
• 34:49
  itself, the video game could tell its story and then we can
• 34:51
  follow along the story and I could just do the commentary as
• 34:55
  well have just opened discussion of what we ate today or what's
• 34:59
  our favorite movie and talk about that while playing a video
• 35:03
  game, or maybe the video game is related to the movie.
• 35:06
  So I definitely loved to do my virtual novel games, which is
• 35:12
  I'm reading the story to my viewers and they're following
• 35:15
  along and it's just The super chillest moment and just
• 35:22
  wholesome time that it can have while streaming in compared to
• 35:27
  playing a game like Fury, for example, which is a Boss Rush
• 35:32
  game, which I am. Hopefully going to finish this,
• 35:35
  by this weekend, and it's aggravating because I literally
• 35:40
  have to pause the game to see the chat and interact, because
• 35:44
  the game requires so much Focus. 10.
• 35:49
  So you can't even have like it on a separate screen.
• 35:52
  Just in the background is in terms of it being too
• 35:55
  distracting. Is that what you mean or more?
• 35:57
  Because of what the computer requires?
• 35:59
  Or whatever know the game is actually really fast paced, so
• 36:02
  you have to see everything that's going on in the game.
• 36:05
  Because if I Glimpse, because I have, I had my chat on an iPad
• 36:09
  on my right side where my camera is, so I had to make sure that I
• 36:13
  have my camera next to the chat. So it looks like I'm looking at
• 36:15
  them and I'm directly talking to them.
• 36:18
  And it's good to have eye contact because, you know,
• 36:19
  that's how what you are when you're in a real life.
• 36:24
  In a real live conversation with someone you want to have eye
• 36:27
  contact. So I love to have that eye
• 36:28
  contact with my viewers. So if I switch for one second,
• 36:33
  I'll die immediately because the game is super fast.
• 36:36
  It's a very fast paced game so I paused the chat, I pause the
• 36:40
  game for a good two to three minutes and chat with my viewers
• 36:43
  and I'm like okay chat I won't be able to see the chat and not
• 36:46
  ignoring you. I just I want to beat this game
• 36:49
  and the sooner, we beat this game, the more we could talk,
• 36:51
  and they understand that and they, and they see my
• 36:54
  frustration dying over and over and over again.
• 36:57
  So, yeah. So it's a win-win.
• 37:01
  What would you say? The biggest challenges when it
• 37:03
  comes to streaming, the biggest challenge to come to streaming
• 37:08
  is hitting the live button. Especially the fact either you
• 37:16
  have something planned, Are you don't have anything planned.
• 37:20
  It definitely could be really, really, really, really
• 37:28
  intimidating. And what I mean by intimidating,
• 37:31
  it could be either. They're not going to like this
• 37:35
  game. You're always thinking about
• 37:37
  others before thinking about yourself.
• 37:39
  And I've learned that you have to think about yourself before
• 37:43
  thinking of others, so you have to actually play with you.
• 37:46
  Enjoy don't. Don't play what you think
• 37:48
  someone's going to enjoy. If they enjoy it great and if
• 37:51
  they don't enjoy it, at least they enjoy your company and they
• 37:55
  want to talk to you as a streamer, not the game.
• 37:58
  So I realized every person that do come to my stream, they don't
• 38:03
  come for the game. I play because I've been doing
• 38:05
  these like sponsored streams and, you know, sponsored dreams,
• 38:08
  could be really monotonous and repetitive.
• 38:11
  And it could be like a really boring content, but they come
• 38:15
  for me because they're actually chatting with And with the
• 38:18
  mobile game, I could actually focus on the chat and talk with
• 38:22
  them instead of just like okay I have to hit this button to press
• 38:28
  to fight the boss while I can't chat with the chat so yeah,
• 38:31
  definitely hitting that. Like button could be super
• 38:34
  intimidating. Let's talk a little bit more
• 38:36
  about sponsorships and stuff. You got a partnership with
• 38:40
  Amazon. I just thought you know.
• 38:41
  Yeah. What does that involve?
• 38:43
  How did it come about? Tell us about that so I can't
• 38:46
  give too many details about that.
• 38:47
  Because I signed a dmca, however, due to that experience,
• 38:53
  I did have the opportunity and chance, to be partnered with a
• 39:00
  brand new app called game on which is made by Amazon and
• 39:05
  game. On is aimed towards mobile
• 39:07
  Gamers. So with the mobile gaming
• 39:10
  industry, you know, it's one of the biggest gaming initiates.
• 39:13
  When people say mobile gaming is not gaming, they're absolutely
• 39:16
  wrong. I've known so many tournaments
• 39:21
  and competitions, that's taken place in Mobile gaming such as
• 39:24
  mobile Legends, Call of Duty mobile pop G Mobile.
• 39:28
  You could win money just by playing a game on your phone,
• 39:31
  it's wild. And with this application
• 39:36
  there's challenges and you just reminded me.
• 39:38
  I ask you to do a challenge today because today is Wednesday
• 39:43
  and they get these challenges. And what you do is you mimic
• 39:46
  these challenges or you. You do or you make your own
• 39:49
  challenges and your record at least a couple of seconds to 5
• 39:54
  minutes of your gameplay. Using this in Africa quarter
• 39:58
  without pausing their game without leaving the game.
• 40:01
  If it chords that moment and then it will be posted on the
• 40:04
  app and then people could like vote for your challenges if it's
• 40:07
  the best or not and it also could go to an archive folder
• 40:12
  where you could post it on outside social medias for
• 40:17
  marketing purposes. This is edits.
• 40:18
  It's a really, it's really cool. It's different and it's
• 40:22
  available only right now in the United States and for Google and
• 40:28
  Android. It's not available for iOS yet
• 40:30
  because it's still, you know, it's still in the beginning
• 40:32
  process, but hopefully it will become worldwide and it will be
• 40:36
  available for all types of phones.
• 40:39
  So obviously, when it comes to the sponsorships and presumably
• 40:44
  a company kind of approaches you And they said, hey, we want you
• 40:49
  to play X next game, just from the way that you were kind of
• 40:54
  speaking about it. It does sound very much alike.
• 40:56
  A not a standard kind of format as far as a stream is concerned,
• 41:01
  like, it doesn't even sound like necessarily like, you're 100%
• 41:03
  like, you know, into it. It's like okay I've got to do
• 41:06
  this because you know, they're paying me and it's obviously
• 41:10
  worth my time and stuff. But like how do you go about
• 41:12
  doing that? Like how does it differ to a
• 41:14
  standard stream 2 agust below? So spicy.
• 41:17
  Streams could definitely be tedious.
• 41:20
  My first-ever sponsor. Shame was the rage Shadow
• 41:23
  Legends one and I didn't think I was going to enjoy the game but
• 41:31
  I enjoy the game, I liked it, I had fun.
• 41:33
  Especially when I involved my viewers to download the game or
• 41:40
  because, you know, if you download the game, you get like
• 41:42
  a percentage and it definitely was cool to actually involving
• 41:47
  them because when you have a sponsor stream and you're able
• 41:50
  to involve your viewers, it's definitely a win.
• 41:56
  The fact is because you're not doing this alone.
• 41:58
  Suffering alone and sponsors. James could be either a fun or
• 42:04
  like I said, yeah there they, they happen randomly.
• 42:09
  So they're not really planned. So there's some special streams
• 42:13
  that are planned and some better not and it's either your cure
• 42:18
  get to contact them when you sign up for like this
• 42:21
  advertisement or they actually see your contact your content
• 42:25
  and then they contact you. And in my situation, I was
• 42:33
  invited to a program which is in beta from Steam, element, okay?
• 42:40
  The stream elements has a sponsorship program and the
• 42:43
  first one they had was the rate Shadow Legends and like, okay,
• 42:46
  I'll give this a try and yeah and if they still haven't done
• 42:50
  much because they're still you know, due to everything that's
• 42:53
  happening in the world. Yeah everything kind of slow
• 42:56
  down a bit. But before that before the raid
• 43:00
  Shadow Legends on Facebook, I also have done many sponsors
• 43:04
  streams with independent content, creating talent
• 43:09
  agencies. And what they do is they, these
• 43:13
  companies work with developers or work with big major companies
• 43:18
  like a 10-cent and Ubisoft then, all those type of companies that
• 43:25
  work with actual gaming and They look for, you know, go-getters,
• 43:31
  either, content creators, game lovers, anyone to participate in
• 43:37
  these sponsored opportunities to either promote or Market their
• 43:41
  game. And it's just, you know, it's
• 43:46
  it's interesting. The fact that little old me has
• 43:52
  this opportunity to be able to show off a game that is
• 43:58
  Downloaded millions and millions of times.
• 44:02
  But of course, they want either more downloads and more exposure
• 44:05
  by using these smaller content creators, or establishing
• 44:10
  content creators because there's no such thing as small or big,
• 44:14
  it's just an establishment, and it's a growth process.
• 44:19
  Yes, since you've actually played the game, what's your
• 44:22
  verdict? What's your opinion on?
• 44:24
  Red Shadow Legends, is it actually any good?
• 44:28
  If you're really bored and want to play, you want to play a
• 44:33
  game, that's less aggravating like Candy Crush then?
• 44:39
  Yeah. It's a good game.
• 44:40
  Yeah, wow, I actually enjoy status of ival which is the
• 44:47
  recent sponsorship that I've I've received.
• 44:51
  And I'm enjoying state of survival hundred times better in
• 44:55
  my opinion. The fact is that you get to
• 44:58
  Zombies and you get to build a settlement and then you get to
• 45:02
  build your own Alliance and then it has that PVP function where
• 45:06
  you actually get to attack other people's alliances but then it
• 45:10
  gets ugly the drama. But other than that I enjoyed
• 45:13
  state of survival drama on mobile gaming.
• 45:17
  What? Never heard of it?
• 45:19
  Oh I didn't mean I don't know. I hear drama and you know there
• 45:22
  is online but how can get know about Mobile gaming?
• 45:25
  What they think things, seriously, especially the They
• 45:28
  put money into the game now, I kinda changed everything
• 45:33
  precisely. Oh my god.
• 45:36
  Um, what do you make of? How they're kind of taking
• 45:39
  mobile games now and actually making console versions as well.
• 45:44
  That's something that they're sort of preparing to do for
• 45:46
  certain games. So what do you make of that?
• 45:48
  You mean console gaming to Mobile gaming, or more, or vice
• 45:50
  versa, vice versa, so mobile to console and PC and such For
• 45:56
  example, there is a plan in the works supposedly for them to do
• 46:00
  that with Red Shadow Legends. apparently, so those who aren't
• 46:09
  listening to the podcast via YouTube for those who are
• 46:14
  listening to it on an audio platform.
• 46:16
  And the dream is going very quiet right now, with sort of
• 46:23
  Sort of but that's like ripping a leg apart.
• 46:33
  The fact is there's so many games that are similar to the
• 46:37
  mobile games. Already made for consoles and
• 46:41
  requires a whole skill. Of gameplay, instead of like
• 46:48
  doing the autoplay because no, certain mobile games has the
• 46:51
  autoplay and you just watch what happens and see and you go by
• 46:54
  chance and said was like console, it requires skill and
• 46:57
  require sequence. I had no words.
• 47:01
  I, it will either be a hit or miss.
• 47:04
  Yeah, there's a lot of mobile game lovers and stuff and their,
• 47:10
  their games like that already available for console that
• 47:13
  requires you to You too for in-app purchases.
• 47:17
  So had, I have no words, no words at all for this.
• 47:23
  I don't blame you at a Bernie. There are many, that would
• 47:26
  probably say that, you know, mobile gaming is a bit of a
• 47:28
  downgrade from. So PC gaming or, you know, like
• 47:31
  just conventional console gaming.
• 47:34
  Would you say that Mobile gaming is improving, or has computer
• 47:39
  improved considerably over, say, the last 5, to 10 years, I mean,
• 47:42
  I've seen some games. Oh, yeah.
• 47:44
  Jensen impact, for example. Okay, Jensen impact is a mobile
• 47:49
  game. It was firstly made into a
• 47:51
  mobile game, and then they made it for PC and then they made it
• 47:56
  4 PlayStation. And then later on this year, it
• 47:59
  will be made for the switch, which I'm so excited.
• 48:02
  Yeah, and that game is like a free version of Zelda.
• 48:08
  Um, no, it's weakened because the music is so beautiful.
• 48:12
  I love the music in the game. I haven't played laid it on
• 48:14
  stream because I feel like it will take over of my variety
• 48:18
  streaming because it's a very long game and it could be a
• 48:21
  hack-and-slash game because because it's like a lot of
• 48:23
  button mashing and stuff but there's you know there's
• 48:26
  leveling up there's that in-app purchases is just have that
• 48:29
  mobile game and you know impacting it.
• 48:34
  But yeah the thing is That game was originally a mobile game and
• 48:42
  it's making so many numbers and like streaming and downloads.
• 48:47
  And it's just don't underestimate the power of
• 48:51
  mobile gaming, don't underestimate it because mobile
• 48:53
  gaming could take over any time because there's so many games
• 48:59
  that you can't take on the go. And with mobile gaming, you
• 49:02
  could play on the go such as Pub, T-Mobile Call of Duty
• 49:06
  mobile Jensen. An impact, Minecraft.
• 49:09
  All these games that are on Console are available on the go
• 49:13
  and it's not compared to a Nintendo switch because you're
• 49:16
  not going to carry a Nintendo switch, wherever you go.
• 49:18
  But the phone, you'll carry that wherever you go.
• 49:21
  So whoever downgrades Mobile gaming is definitely, you know,
• 49:26
  everyone has their own opinions, but they're wrong.
• 49:32
  Fair enough, I appreciate your honesty.
• 49:35
  Do you find time to actually Games outside of streaming, or
• 49:39
  is it always kind of like, if I'm going to play this, I should
• 49:42
  play this stream. No, no.
• 49:45
  Every game I have to stream it. I don't feel comfortable playing
• 49:49
  games off stream anymore. The only games that will play it
• 49:52
  off. Stream is mobile gaming because
• 49:53
  I do have to record challenges and stuff and then record
• 49:57
  content for YouTube or Instagram.
• 50:00
  But definitely, I don't feel the need to play video games off
• 50:06
  stream anymore. If I do off stream, I wouldn't
• 50:09
  that case. Hit the record button, and
• 50:11
  record it for YouTube content, but instead, what I do is I just
• 50:15
  re-edit all the previous streams that expired on Twitch and then
• 50:21
  tweak them a little bit and upload them.
• 50:24
  It's bit, cheeky cheeky, but at least it shows what my twitch
• 50:30
  streams are about. It's not like, I feel like if I
• 50:33
  record something, they're not going to see my personality.
• 50:36
  They're just going to see. Just playing a video game when
• 50:38
  they actually could actually have a glimpse and a sneak peek
• 50:42
  of what I'm bringing out there as a content creator.
• 50:45
  What I mean by the cheek in is because I fully agree with what
• 50:48
  you do. I do the same thing.
• 50:49
  OK. Right.
• 50:51
  This is what I mean. So when your affiliate
• 50:55
  supposedly, there's this are you affiliate or partner?
• 50:58
  You're copying a working for partnership?
• 51:01
  I'm putting it there, that I'll be partnered by Samara time I
• 51:05
  was just curious. It will happen if you've already
• 51:09
  got to affiliate, then, you know, you're on the roads
• 51:12
  partner, it'll happen. But what I'm curious about is
• 51:15
  that, you know, when your affiliate and partner apparently
• 51:20
  there's some sort of exclusivity deal where you're not actually
• 51:24
  allowed to supposedly, upload the full streams in their
• 51:28
  entirety in the end, entirety to another platform.
• 51:31
  So I was a little bit curious when you said that that, oh, you
• 51:34
  know, I'll obviously you edit. So won't be like the full All
• 51:37
  stream but it will be a significant stream.
• 51:40
  You know, when I was doing my research on you, I did find
• 51:43
  entire streams on YouTube which I was quite surprised by that.
• 51:46
  It was to us a little bit about that, so that the exclusively
• 51:51
  it's after 24 hours. Hmm.
• 51:55
  So you're not supposed to re-upload and you can't
• 51:58
  multi-stream the same content in 24 hours and you're not even
• 52:03
  allowed to Most Extreme as an affiliate.
• 52:05
  If you are roads willfully at you, Could multi-stream but as
• 52:08
  soon as he had affiliate, no multi-streaming either, have to
• 52:10
  stream a few hours on Twitch few hours on Facebook.
• 52:13
  A few hours on YouTube or just choose one platform and focus on
• 52:16
  it. And with the streams, what I do
• 52:20
  is I don't wait the 24 hours. I actually wait until the full
• 52:23
  30 days because I'm a Prime member.
• 52:26
  So, Prime member instead of 13 days.
• 52:28
  My videos expire in 30 days. After 30 days, I will re-upload
• 52:32
  this content and of course, tweak it up a little bit.
• 52:35
  So it's different from the actual stream.
• 52:37
  It has like, captions or I cut out a lot of things, like when I
• 52:41
  say, um, a lot or I cut out the intermission screen, or I cut
• 52:45
  out certain spoilers, so it seems different.
• 52:51
  But yeah, that's basically, you're definitely allowed to
• 52:54
  upload content. But, yeah, I knew that, but I
• 52:56
  thought it was like, you were just restricted to Clips.
• 52:59
  So, I've actually learned something new that I didn't
• 53:01
  realize. There's a lot of sexual
• 53:04
  partners, dreamers that re-upload there.
• 53:06
  And Entire stream without editing on their YouTube
• 53:10
  channel. So Markiplier, for example, he
• 53:13
  he real blows his entire stream. It does, he do it like straight
• 53:17
  away? Or does he wait as you say the
• 53:18
  2000, know you weights, of course, weight guy, right?
• 53:21
  You can't / the key because you have that 24-hour window that
• 53:26
  you have to wait and it doesn't make sense to actually re-upload
• 53:30
  something that you already done because it's going to become a
• 53:33
  bot on Twitch no matter what. Hmm.
• 53:36
  And yeah. There's not that much
• 53:38
  discoverability on Twitch compared to YouTube, but I feel
• 53:41
  like if you do re-upload it on a different time.
• 53:44
  Like right now, I've been be uploading my twitch sings videos
• 53:48
  because they removed which things because of dmca's.
• 53:51
  So re-uploading the twitch sings videos onto YouTube.
• 53:55
  Yeah. I might not get paid for those
• 53:57
  videos but those memories will live on.
• 53:59
  Yeah. And people remember twitch
• 54:01
  things for what positivity abroad because I started playing
• 54:06
  twitch stings. When I joined twitch and then
• 54:10
  you know, during the social distancing thing, it was a way
• 54:13
  of actually communicating with people because it had the party
• 54:16
  feature where you actually could have other people seeing and
• 54:20
  communicate with them and it definitely helped.
• 54:24
  He's a little, he's a little less.
• 54:29
  How's that word? It was, you know, a relief.
• 54:33
  Hmm, definitely a relief from all the stress and just not.
• 54:37
  Baa bleating not being able to actually socialize.
• 54:41
  It was a way of socialization just socializing I get you okay.
• 54:45
  Yes I was that's that's a fair way to put it.
• 54:48
  I mean I think for me I often just upload as soon as I can
• 54:52
  with regards to the the full streams and the clips mainly
• 54:56
  because my audience is so small. I think if it was the same
• 54:59
  audience like on both platforms sort of thing, then I would do
• 55:04
  I'd wait at you like, you do as well.
• 55:06
  I'm probably just have the clip. It's instead but I think it I
• 55:10
  think it really depends on where you are.
• 55:12
  You know what I mean? Is it seems to like your stage
• 55:17
  in the journey. Shall we say?
• 55:20
  Moving it Forward. What are your goals and
• 55:22
  aspirations for twitch? YouTube Instagram.
• 55:26
  What's the overall Mo? So my goals for Instagram is to
• 55:31
  hit the sent thousand followers. I hit it once, but I got Shadow
• 55:37
  band. So a lot of people unfollowed me
• 55:39
  because my post wasn't having getting receiving any reach.
• 55:42
  So I'd Instagram right now. My 7,000 followers on my
• 55:45
  personal. See, this is interesting.
• 55:48
  You gotta shut up. I'm the only person I've ever
• 55:50
  heard this happened to was, I think leafy back when he was on
• 55:55
  YouTube at the first time and there was something, there was
• 55:59
  some sort of controversy over that.
• 56:00
  Now, for those listening who don't know what it is, is
• 56:02
  basically where you can still find the person.
• 56:07
  But their new videos, new content is not promoted.
• 56:10
  Is that right? Correct?
• 56:12
  And the reason why I wish out-of-band I was over posting
• 56:15
  and I was hmm. And you either get shot up and
• 56:19
  for Posting and following a whole bunch of people.
• 56:23
  At once, because it looks spammy.
• 56:25
  Yeah. And I definitely posted a lot.
• 56:29
  I posted like eight things in one day, and like, and that not
• 56:34
  even like an hour or two hours, but like, in like, every like
• 56:37
  five to ten minutes and it was bad.
• 56:40
  So, I got Shadow band for for a quite long while.
• 56:44
  So, during that shadow band, I actually made a new Instagram
• 56:47
  account, which focuses on gaming, which is a legend gaming
• 56:51
  Zone and Was in Shadow bank. As soon as I posted, I was on
• 56:55
  the explore page, explore page, explore page, due to the fact of
• 56:58
  it being brand new, but then compared to my bigger establish
• 57:03
  account being Shadow band, it was definitely hard for growth.
• 57:08
  And so, yeah, my goal is to get at least 10,000 followers on
• 57:12
  both of those accounts for YouTube.
• 57:17
  Maybe, I don't know with YouTube, I have YouTube for over
• 57:20
  13 years. I'm not a thousand subscribers
• 57:25
  and my YouTube. I've been told to make a
• 57:27
  different YouTube channel for what I'm doing but I didn't want
• 57:31
  to start over. I'm like, I'm just going to make
• 57:33
  different playlists for what it is and I'm just going to from
• 57:36
  music. This channel is going to be just
• 57:38
  focusing on gaming, that's it. And hopefully the gaming on the
• 57:44
  YouTube will go up a little And I'll get like a YouTube trophy,
• 57:49
  because I see those YouTube trophies.
• 57:50
  They're really cool looking. So that's definitely,
• 57:54
  definitely, one of my goals. And then, of course, my twitch
• 57:56
  goal is to be partnership and get all the emotes in the world,
• 58:00
  because I love emotes. They're so adorable.
• 58:05
  What are your thoughts on other platforms, like deal?
• 58:08
  I've an upcoming platforms as well, like, Periscope I believe
• 58:11
  is going to be the Twitter one. Do you think that they have
• 58:14
  anything to offer or there? Are worth trying out.
• 58:18
  Periscope is actually gone in March 20 21.
• 58:21
  Oh, wow. Credible for that one.
• 58:23
  I thought I saw the advertising for it and it seemed like it
• 58:26
  was, it was upcoming. But actually Periscope is gone.
• 58:29
  The new replacing, it is Hap's Hipps and yeah apps has been
• 58:37
  actually growing really big due to the Periscope shutting down.
• 58:42
  So do you live actually tried alive?
• 58:46
  I didn't like it. I also had.
• 58:48
  I also give a try to travel. Which is another gaming and it
• 58:53
  was focused towards Mobile gaming but then they actually
• 58:56
  allow console Gamers to play on it.
• 59:01
  The thing is with these things, their upcoming, their new, they
• 59:04
  will have they will have their moments and then little by
• 59:09
  little they will die down. But if you think that was when
• 59:15
  you've got something as big as twitch and YouTube, do you think
• 59:18
  it's worth having them or even using them?
• 59:20
  Yes or no. Yes, to the fact that these
• 59:25
  companies could offer a really great deal and a great contract.
• 59:30
  The only con of this is that those contracts are exclusive
• 59:36
  and they limit yourself and it definitely could you know, it
• 59:42
  limits your content and it limits your availability to
• 59:46
  other experiences and opportunities.
• 59:50
  At ease because I've been there, I've been in a single exclusive
• 59:56
  contract and it definitely was more stressful than actually
• 1:00:02
  just being my own person trying to reach for the exclusively.
• 1:00:07
  Like, if I do get exclusive on Twitch, it's not extremely
• 1:00:11
  limited because you could upload on YouTube and then you could
• 1:00:14
  work with many different companies because twitch allows
• 1:00:16
  that because it's more marketing and more Promotional and of
• 1:00:19
  course more Been abused for the company itself.
• 1:00:25
  What are some major kind of do's and don'ts of professional
• 1:00:29
  streaming? Dues good lighting always have
• 1:00:34
  good lighting. Don't Don't criticize.
• 1:00:41
  If someone doesn't want to use a camera or someone doesn't look
• 1:00:46
  good on camera. Mmm, don't judge them just you
• 1:00:48
  know go with the flow enjoy what they're bringing out as content
• 1:00:52
  if you can't hit the live button you have no.
• 1:00:54
  Right to be judging someone else of what they're doing.
• 1:00:58
  They're following their dreams, they have a passion and who
• 1:01:00
  knows they'll be that big streamer one day?
• 1:01:03
  So yeah, don't be nice. Don't don't be a, Don't Be a
• 1:01:07
  Jerk. Yeah, I always look at people.
• 1:01:10
  Mr. Beast, when it all went because where there's a lot of
• 1:01:13
  days when I look at my numbers and I'm like, damn, I've been
• 1:01:15
  doing this like two years and it's it's not going anywhere and
• 1:01:18
  it's like when I see and I hear the stories of those guys like
• 1:01:21
  yeah I started out on my phone and I had nothing and I'm like
• 1:01:25
  maybe there is hope. Yeah and you can't compare
• 1:01:29
  yourself and you can't sell yourself short.
• 1:01:31
  You just you know go with the flow, expect the unexpected and
• 1:01:35
  just you know go for it. Take a risk, you never know
• 1:01:39
  who's going to be watching. Watching or you never know that.
• 1:01:41
  You'll have that big big breakthrough.
• 1:01:44
  Another do is be consistent if you're taking this seriously
• 1:01:49
  because distant, this is not an overnight success, just keep
• 1:01:55
  working hard at it. If you do have other platforms,
• 1:01:59
  use those other platforms to help you grow as a content
• 1:02:04
  creator. Don't like I said, don't sell
• 1:02:06
  yourself short. Don't call yourself a stream or
• 1:02:08
  you're a content creator. Your Making content in all these
• 1:02:12
  sites and it's super helpful. The fact that, you know, you
• 1:02:18
  have this ability and way, just to put yourself out there, while
• 1:02:24
  others back, then didn't have YouTube or anything.
• 1:02:28
  They literally have to mail out a letter and send out emails and
• 1:02:32
  stuff. You actually have Opportunity by
• 1:02:36
  using a camera and saying hi to the world and go viral.
• 1:02:40
  So yeah, just you know be consistent and don't give up on
• 1:02:43
  that. Don't don't overwork yourself
• 1:02:51
  like you know, definitely think realistically I don't think
• 1:02:57
  crazy numbers because it's not going to happen.
• 1:03:01
  Just, you know keep doing what you're doing that, you feel
• 1:03:04
  what's best for you and at the same time what's healthy for you
• 1:03:08
  because you definitely don't want to Sick.
• 1:03:11
  Because a lot of these streamers content creators have gone
• 1:03:15
  through that mental breakdown and has ended up on the edge.
• 1:03:19
  And it's very, very sad and you definitely don't want to go
• 1:03:23
  through that. You want to, you want to do this
• 1:03:26
  as either therapy or you want to do this to help others or help
• 1:03:31
  yourself. So it's definitely it's not
• 1:03:35
  really complicated but you know you just gotta do what you gotta
• 1:03:39
  do and Do what you want to do, and do what you love.
• 1:03:43
  Not anymore. Yeah, it's definitely a lot of
• 1:03:47
  people like to beat themselves up and I beat myself up every
• 1:03:51
  day saying. Oh I'm not gonna do this is so
• 1:03:54
  hard but I enjoy what I'm doing and I'm just going to let the
• 1:03:58
  grow continue to flourish because, you know, you have to
• 1:04:02
  water our flower for it to grow and if I'm not watering the
• 1:04:06
  flower, I'll just be dying. So let's just keep watering that
• 1:04:11
  flower but not over water. It Now, if you over water, it
• 1:04:14
  will die it too. So yeah, I think that's, I think
• 1:04:19
  that's a good analogy. I don't know if it works.
• 1:04:21
  It works. Okay, works.
• 1:04:23
  Okay. Fair enough.
• 1:04:25
  So yeah, don't don't play music on your streams.
• 1:04:29
  There's websites for that. Use Harris Heller's.
• 1:04:31
  Dream. Beads or use?
• 1:04:33
  Pretzel rocks. I love.
• 1:04:34
  Pretzel rocks. Oh my gosh, pretzel rocks is
• 1:04:36
  great. And pretzel, rocks is a dmca
• 1:04:39
  free music player that you can use for YouTube Facebook.
• 1:04:43
  And twitch, and it's just amazing.
• 1:04:45
  I never got a dmca strike. The only time I got muted for
• 1:04:49
  was for Kingdom Hearts gameplay, but that's about it, but I never
• 1:04:53
  got a dmca strike knock on wood, but yeah, enjoy the copyright
• 1:04:59
  free music support your independent artist.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah. But of course, you know, of
• 1:05:04
  course, make sure you have their permission.
• 1:05:06
  So you don't go through that headaches because, you know, you
• 1:05:09
  work hard for your channel, you don't want to lose it overnight.
• 1:05:13
  So yeah, don't don't play music on your streets.
• 1:05:15
  You know, I heard the the dmca system on Twitch is like, really
• 1:05:20
  strict. So it's not like YouTube where
• 1:05:21
  you get, you know, three strikes and you're out.
• 1:05:24
  It's like, isn't it just a one and done so situation?
• 1:05:27
  You just lose it straight away. They give you warnings.
• 1:05:31
  It seems, they are learning. Yeah, but if they constantly see
• 1:05:35
  you doing it then yeah, you do, you're out but they were YouTube
• 1:05:39
  is YouTube doesn't give you strikes.
• 1:05:42
  What they do is you can't monetize.
• 1:05:45
  I don't you can't monetize your videos.
• 1:05:47
  They'll just say oh you're not in trouble or anything but you
• 1:05:50
  just won't get paid for this part of the video.
• 1:05:52
  The actual owner will. Hmm and it does, it definitely
• 1:05:56
  limits your Discovery and it definitely doesn't help you
• 1:06:01
  bring money to the table. But at least it does give you
• 1:06:04
  exposure. The fact that they don't mute
• 1:06:06
  your entire video, they actually allow you to play it on in
• 1:06:09
  certain areas in the world. But with twitch on other hand it
• 1:06:13
  mutes the entire section of that part and then it continues on to
• 1:06:19
  when it doesn't pick up the music.
• 1:06:21
  So yeah, what do you think streaming is likely to be headed
• 1:06:25
  in the future and the Senate next 5-10 years Stevens taken
• 1:06:29
  over that Netflix Hulu. Everything movie theaters are
• 1:06:35
  closing down. So streaming this taken over
• 1:06:37
  streaming is going to be the new TV.
• 1:06:40
  If you think about it, since twitch is available on many at
• 1:06:46
  the vices like Amazon Fire stick, Apple TV video game
• 1:06:50
  consoles. Roku Roku stick.
• 1:06:53
  I think it's called and what is that?
• 1:06:56
  What is that? It's like a ripoff of like Go
• 1:07:04
  thing and Amazon Fire stick, that's basically what it is.
• 1:07:07
  It's just like Amazon Fire stick.
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  I remember those Jesus. I have it.
• 1:07:12
  I love it. It's really good.
• 1:07:14
  I do. Yeah, I love it.
• 1:07:15
  It's how I watch my movies upstairs.
• 1:07:17
  Okay. Fair enough.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, but the thing is definitely steam is going to
• 1:07:21
  take over the world. That that's basically.
• 1:07:23
  It's the new TV Facebook, has that new Facebook, watch where
• 1:07:28
  you get to watch. People, do different cooking
• 1:07:30
  shows and stuff. Then twitch has all the
• 1:07:33
  Categories from gaming to to touch gesture chatting, and then
• 1:07:38
  movies are going straight to Netflix and Hulu Disney plus HBO
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  Max. All those things.
• 1:07:43
  So yeah, stream is going to take over.
• 1:07:45
  That's that's that's that's just that's what I see.
• 1:07:50
  It's been taken over slowly but surely, but it's going to
• 1:07:53
  happen. I can certainly see it with, you
• 1:07:56
  know, we're with providers, like Netflix and Disney plus, like a
• 1:07:59
  look at Disney plus. And I remember when I first came
• 1:08:01
  out, I was like, what? Disney movies, is that it and
• 1:08:04
  then I realized hang on all of Star Wars full of Marvel and I
• 1:08:10
  might have to get this you know this National Geographic.
• 1:08:14
  Oh my God as well National Geographic shit.
• 1:08:19
  Maybe I have to buy this. No that's actually that's a game
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  changer. Get the bundle.
• 1:08:26
  It's the Disney plus and ESPN. If you don't like ESPN, at
• 1:08:30
  least, Hulu, Hulu has really good shows.
• 1:08:34
  It's like 1299. I don't know how much that is
• 1:08:36
  and UK. But attempted for the edited
• 1:08:39
  version for who lured, you can get edited versions of Raw WWE
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  Raw. And I'd be tempted for that
• 1:08:45
  because I cannot watch that full show, man.
• 1:08:48
  Jesus. Let's just because at least with
• 1:08:50
  that, the Hulu want to essentially cuts out all the
• 1:08:52
  crap and makes it into like an hour and a half, which is a
• 1:08:55
  reasonable time for a wrestling TV show.
• 1:08:58
  Just say three hours is ridiculous.
• 1:09:02
  It's okay for a You but not for a TV show this because that
• 1:09:07
  third hour, it's like anyway that's why I whatever wrestling
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  comes up. I just I just have to it's all
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  good I'm not a wrestling fan so no worry.
• 1:09:20
  That's right. Ace interesting Wentworth as it
• 1:09:21
  pertains to streaming because for the most part like you know
• 1:09:26
  wrestling is a very it's becoming more more increasingly
• 1:09:29
  available on on streaming platforms like fight and A few
• 1:09:34
  others, I believe, but, like, all of the major TV providers
• 1:09:36
  are beginning to start their own, you know, networks and
• 1:09:39
  streaming platforms and it does really seem as you say to be
• 1:09:42
  taking over. And I think there's a lot of
• 1:09:45
  appeal with it, especially from the sort of, on demand
• 1:09:47
  perspective, you know? I mean obviously TV has changed
• 1:09:50
  a lot in the sense that you can record, download, whatever.
• 1:09:54
  So you essentially have that functionality but having stream
• 1:09:57
  platform just gives you like full control.
• 1:09:59
  Got this as an adverb Anyway, let's move it on.
• 1:10:04
  Let's move it on. What advice would you give to
• 1:10:06
  people who are trying to get into streaming right now?
• 1:10:12
  I gave a whole bunch of advice in previous interviews but I
• 1:10:17
  would always stick to these top three and it's don't do it for
• 1:10:23
  the money. Expect the unexpected and have
• 1:10:26
  fun and of course be yourself. Okay, for them.
• 1:10:30
  My bad. I'm bad at counting.
• 1:10:32
  So yeah. The don't do it for the money,
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  be yourself. Expect the unexpected and have
• 1:10:37
  fun. That's definitely the top for
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  vice. You have to follow by because if
• 1:10:43
  like for example if you feel like this is easy and it's
• 1:10:49
  overnight it's not you have to spend a lot of money and time
• 1:10:52
  being a streamer concentrator is very expensive.
• 1:10:55
  You need the equipment. If you don't have the equipment,
• 1:10:58
  you're not going to be successful.
• 1:11:00
  But common sense. You need a camera to be shown
• 1:11:05
  and if you don't have a camera, you need the device or the video
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  game console, or the game, or any of those things to bring
• 1:11:15
  yourself out there. So, yeah, don't know.
• 1:11:19
  Hopefully, hopefully, that's a little, it's straight to the
• 1:11:23
  point. And I mean it with my heart,
• 1:11:26
  like have fun, don't don't don't.
• 1:11:30
  Beat yourself up and enjoy what you're doing because if you
• 1:11:34
  don't enjoy what you're doing and why you're doing it, so
• 1:11:36
  yeah. What's the biggest life lesson
• 1:11:41
  that you've learned so far? It just in general or with
• 1:11:47
  within immediately in life just in life in general?
• 1:11:51
  Nothing is easy. You know, the truth, nothing's
• 1:11:56
  easy, really. There's always, there's always a
• 1:12:00
  struggle. Everyone has their own obstacles
• 1:12:07
  that they have to go over and Diaz obstacles.
• 1:12:10
  Could either avoid Consequences or bring more treason and more
• 1:12:20
  pain, especially if you're tripping over these obstacles
• 1:12:23
  over and over again because we're always, Everyone is always
• 1:12:28
  looking towards failure, that no one ever looks towards us us
• 1:12:32
  because it's easier to fail, been to secede.
• 1:12:37
  And I totally disagree with that mentality because it's super
• 1:12:41
  unhealthy. You just have to just work Hard
• 1:12:45
  and practice makes perfect to be successful.
• 1:12:49
  Like I gotta say like that. That's a strange mentality to
• 1:12:51
  have with something like this. I mean you know I held it I see
• 1:12:56
  it all the time. I'm going to take I'm going to
• 1:12:59
  take a break from streaming. I suck at streaming.
• 1:13:02
  I'm a bad streamer. I'm this I'm that I don't get
• 1:13:05
  viewers. I don't do this, I don't do
• 1:13:07
  this. This I don't, I don't, I don't,
• 1:13:10
  I can't, I can't I can't mentality and this is why I'm
• 1:13:13
  saying I'm sad. Said that that people always aim
• 1:13:16
  towards failure. Instead of actually succeeding,
• 1:13:18
  they don't they don't think out of the box.
• 1:13:22
  They literally just put themselves on a pedestal because
• 1:13:26
  they're doing it for the wrong reasons and it's going to be
• 1:13:31
  good, it's gonna make you feel. So you have to, you know, you
• 1:13:35
  just have to think realistic and do what you have to do to change
• 1:13:41
  that I can. So I can, I want to, I want I
• 1:13:44
  will. So yeah, just I don't know what
• 1:13:52
  else to say. It's another topic for another
• 1:13:55
  day that I could talk about for hours.
• 1:13:59
  Yeah. I guess that I've heard you
• 1:14:01
  know, obviously people say that you know, plenty of times and
• 1:14:03
  you know I'm guilty of having said it before like these days
• 1:14:06
  I'm over it. Like you know, if anything, I
• 1:14:08
  just laugh, when I don't get anyone come to my streams and
• 1:14:11
  that whatever, I'm still have fun.
• 1:14:14
  But I do think that You have to be positive with this stuff.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah. Because it affects everything
• 1:14:21
  you do as well like it affects the content.
• 1:14:26
  You know, I like, for example, one of the things I always think
• 1:14:29
  about, I want to do the podcast is like, you know, I want every
• 1:14:33
  episode to be as good as the last, you know?
• 1:14:35
  Like, so if someone would suddenly come across an episode,
• 1:14:39
  I don't want it to be like, oh, this was half-assed.
• 1:14:41
  I didn't put my effort, you know, any effort in or, you
• 1:14:44
  know, I was kind of like the The back or whatever.
• 1:14:47
  Like I just think that's a nonsensical way of thinking that
• 1:14:50
  you got to put in 100% every time.
• 1:14:53
  And, you know, the good thing about what we do as well.
• 1:14:56
  Is that? Like, even if it doesn't perform
• 1:14:59
  well? Now, it can perform well over
• 1:15:02
  time. Now, I'm starting to see certain
• 1:15:04
  videos that I did like a year ago starting to pick up traction
• 1:15:09
  now. And it, you know, I think a
• 1:15:11
  certain amount of that comes down to just like, being on a
• 1:15:14
  platform for a certain amount of time.
• 1:15:16
  I know it's different. For twitch, but with YouTube,
• 1:15:17
  you know, after some time you do get kind of get picked up and,
• 1:15:21
  you know, you fall into the algorithm and stuff, but people
• 1:15:24
  give up way too easily. And I think that's the problem.
• 1:15:27
  You know, it's like I've made this joke before about how
• 1:15:31
  people can, you know, that's not a podcast.
• 1:15:33
  That whenever someone says to me, I'm gonna start a podcast
• 1:15:34
  and I'll be like, okay, well get back to me when you're done like
• 1:15:37
  say 30 episodes and then you know I mean because it's like
• 1:15:40
  slows of people start and then they just end it after like
• 1:15:43
  three months or something because they weren't getting any
• 1:15:46
  viewers. It's like the mentality you have
• 1:15:48
  to have with this is that like he's a really good example of
• 1:15:53
  what I mean because I don't want to go to ding today into detail
• 1:15:56
  with this but like okay now it's just I don't want to go and I
• 1:15:59
  want to go like DVA to model too far but sometimes we get people
• 1:16:03
  come up to me and say like, oh, how many subscribers you have?
• 1:16:05
  Right. And I'll be like, OK, it's like
• 1:16:07
  500 and something and then I RK and it's that kind of like oh
• 1:16:12
  it's not important then. So a lot of people will just
• 1:16:16
  fixate on your numbers and will judge you based on that rather
• 1:16:19
  than the content you're putting out.
• 1:16:21
  Right agreed. And like I think the important
• 1:16:25
  thing to always remember is it can change overnight.
• 1:16:28
  It will change and you have to be consistent throughout that
• 1:16:33
  time regardless of how it's going.
• 1:16:36
  Good or bad. You always have to be the same
• 1:16:38
  and get better. It's good.
• 1:16:40
  You said that because you heard of a twitch streamer that lost
• 1:16:44
  over millions of followers overnight, and I think was a
• 1:16:48
  fifteen-year-old Minecraft player and he tweeted it, and
• 1:16:53
  it, retweeted and from zero. He went up to like, seventeen
• 1:16:58
  thousand followers in two days. I think now, he's back to his
• 1:17:01
  numbers again. But, yeah, I his, he literally
• 1:17:04
  went from a couple of million followers, 20 followers and
• 1:17:10
  That's my bad. I don't know.
• 1:17:12
  I don't know. There's ways of there's a way of
• 1:17:15
  person to delete all their followers, especially the fact
• 1:17:19
  that if you get botted, there's a way of cleaning it out.
• 1:17:23
  So the assumptions were that, maybe his account was
• 1:17:27
  compromised and someone use that function to wipe out his entire
• 1:17:32
  following community. So yeah, this there's so many
• 1:17:37
  out there, but the thing is key. A platform to help him promote
• 1:17:42
  himself again and to build up that following.
• 1:17:45
  And I bet now that those numbers are more authentic and those are
• 1:17:49
  actual real numbers. Those are not fake numbers.
• 1:17:52
  I feel like that actually helped him that that that that downfall
• 1:17:59
  Rose him up again and he's probably doing better.
• 1:18:01
  I don't watch Minecraft or whatever but I just it's just a
• 1:18:05
  good example of what you're saying how people are always
• 1:18:07
  fixated on numbers. Hmm.
• 1:18:10
  Who do you take? Inspiration from nobody II.
• 1:18:17
  Can't watch Gamers. I, if I watch this dreamer and I
• 1:18:19
  like her content is because I like your content but I can't
• 1:18:23
  stand the Stream Long Island. This is why I always ask myself.
• 1:18:26
  Why people watch me II? Literally cannot sit down there
• 1:18:29
  and watch a stream for as long as I can, unless if I'm like
• 1:18:33
  moderating for their stream and I'm doing other stuff in the
• 1:18:36
  background because I'm usually a lurker, if you know what that
• 1:18:40
  That term has you watch but you're not actually there.
• 1:18:44
  But yeah, the only person I could say inspires me is my mom,
• 1:18:48
  but she doesn't play video games.
• 1:18:49
  So it's kind of cliche. That's the sweetest sound so
• 1:18:53
  ever. But she inspires me because she
• 1:18:56
  gave me life and she did it in the beginning, she didn't
• 1:19:01
  understand the gaming thing, but then when I started game
• 1:19:03
  streaming after due to a depression period of time, she
• 1:19:07
  noticed how like it helped me to grow and it helped me to deal
• 1:19:12
  with that pain. As you also notice how it
• 1:19:15
  impacts the viewers, how I help the viewers to feel better about
• 1:19:19
  themselves and she sees so much positivity in it especially in
• 1:19:25
  fact that the I don't play extremely violent games, I do.
• 1:19:29
  Sometimes. But she does like, Resident Evil
• 1:19:33
  which is your mom's cool. Awesome is cool.
• 1:19:37
  As she turns in and every stream when she can.
• 1:19:40
  But there's games out there that focuses on Mental Health, such
• 1:19:45
  as hell, blades. And was sacrifice Celeste, which
• 1:19:48
  I Rage Quit because I couldn't, I couldn't beat it, and then I
• 1:19:52
  just because I just finished this indie game because I work
• 1:19:55
  with independent developers on, showcasing their game, Eames
• 1:19:59
  called into a dream and into a gym was focusing on mental
• 1:20:03
  health and depression. And it's really nice that these
• 1:20:08
  games could touch on topics of these because it's it's always
• 1:20:12
  topics that are a lot of people don't feel comfortable talking
• 1:20:15
  about, but when you bring it up it does bring a vital
• 1:20:19
  discussion. No that's that's excellent.
• 1:20:22
  I didn't realize that I would never kind of gone games like
• 1:20:24
  that that were addressing. That is fantastic.
• 1:20:29
  As we draw things sort of to a close for today.
• 1:20:32
  Do you have any upcoming projects or maybe some final
• 1:20:35
  thoughts that you'd like to share with us?
• 1:20:38
  Yes, I do. Have my own website
• 1:20:41
  www.logicvoltage.com. I've been writing blogs, on
• 1:20:46
  every single game that I've completed.
• 1:20:48
  I so far completed 75 games on Twitch and I only been on Twitch
• 1:20:52
  for 10 months and I write thank you.
• 1:20:55
  And I wrote this blog series called playing games under the
• 1:20:58
  radar. Taking risk as a streamer
• 1:21:00
  playing on popular games and I've been writing blogs of
• 1:21:04
  games, such as Sonic General, the last three blogs, I broke
• 1:21:07
  our base on Sonic Generations, brothers and Giana sisters.
• 1:21:12
  And the next blog, I'll be writing on will be Blair Witch
• 1:21:17
  and hell-blade. So I'm very excited to continue
• 1:21:20
  this Vlog series because it definitely gives me motivation
• 1:21:24
  to bring content out there and to show my creativity as a
• 1:21:28
  writer. And to touch base on these games
• 1:21:31
  that are overlooked. So on forth, I am also, yes.
• 1:21:36
  I also work with this website called Narco and it's basically
• 1:21:42
  a site where all these streamers could show off their content and
• 1:21:47
  collab with other streamers and show their streams and post how
• 1:21:52
  their feel. And it's site where it's all
• 1:21:55
  about gaming. No politics, nothing, none of
• 1:21:57
  that. It's all adjustable Focus.
• 1:21:59
  Gaming. So this any rkc oh, check that
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  out. I do like the promotional for
• 1:22:05
  them and I actually educate on how to be a successful streamer
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• 1:22:30
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  I play anything that everything. Whoo God damn yeah yeah make
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  sure you guys go check that out. And thank you so much for being
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  on the show and yeah just put were telling us a bit about your
• 1:24:41
  career in everything that you do when I wish you the best of luck
• 1:24:44
  with that. Thank you so much.
• 1:24:46
  No problem. It's been a pleasure and yeah to
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  everyone listening to the Christian we've podcast be safe
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