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- 0:02Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
- 0:05Speaker 1: Muir here. The show is brought to you by Peters Genetics.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Welcome along to Hunt Day. As we look outside over
- 0:11Speaker 1: the main street of G-Town, it is really overcast. Little
- 0:16Speaker 1: splashes of blue sky, but just overcast really and pretty warm.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Currently on 18 degrees. We'll look at the weather very shortly.
- 0:24Speaker 1: But the sporting cycle continues. The Blackcaps in India, I
- 0:28Speaker 1: didn't realise this, but they're playing five ODIs getting underway
- 0:31Speaker 1: this afternoon with the 3pm first ball is happening as well.
- 0:36Speaker 1: So this Indian cricket tour, they're the rock stars of
- 0:40Speaker 1: the cricketing world, regardless what you think of the organisation
- 0:43Speaker 1: that runs them. But wherever India goes, it's a big deal.
- 0:46Speaker 1: So something to look out for on the tally later
- 0:49Speaker 1: on this afternoon and into this evening. Billy Giles, the
- 0:52Speaker 1: tunes for our first guest. It is a Wednesday.
- 0:57Speaker 2: This afternoon they're talking thunderstorms developing with calm variable winds
- 1:02Speaker 2: in a.
- 1:02Speaker 3: High of 20.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon showers of light winds 11 and 22.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Friday, thunderstorms once again with breezy South Westerlies, 11 and 22. Saturday,
- 1:20Speaker 1: showers of light South Westerlies, 10 and 19. And on Sunday,
- 1:24Speaker 1: very similar showers with light Southerlies. Haven't wrote that word
- 1:28Speaker 1: down for a while. 9 and 17. So temperatures, Clinton 12.2,
- 1:33Speaker 1: Heriot 10.1, Northern Southland 12.7, Riverton and Te Anau 13.5,
- 1:38Speaker 1: Titiroa 13, Winton 12.6 and Woodlands at 12.1. Like I say,
- 1:44Speaker 1: Billy Joel's in music today, especially for our first guest.
- 1:46Speaker 1: He's been a correspondent on the muster long enough and
- 1:49Speaker 1: he's a fan of Billy Joel's. So Peter Allen, our
- 1:52Speaker 1: deer farming correspondent from Glenure, gets us underway this afternoon.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Tom Shallard of Craig's Investment Partners says, Looks at what's
- 2:00Speaker 1: happening in the political landscape, not just here in New Zealand,
- 2:02Speaker 1: but in America with midterm elections underway and the GDT
- 2:06Speaker 1: result from last night being a real boomer, to be fair.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Keely Buckingham of Dairy NZ is on the show. Moe
- 2:13Speaker 1: Topham's talking rural riders. And then Jaden Henderson. He's had
- 2:18Speaker 1: a hell of a year, Jaden. He started off over
- 2:20Speaker 1: in Sydney, and then he got a text saying, come
- 2:22Speaker 1: and play for the Stags, and now all of a
- 2:24Speaker 1: sudden he's found himself involved with the Crusaders. So looking
- 2:28Speaker 1: forward to catching up with Jaden. Mark Calder of PGG
- 2:30Speaker 1: writes in, talk some boomer land prices as well, and
- 2:34Speaker 1: then we'll get the hour underway. With Peter Allen, this
- 2:37Speaker 1: is the must-have brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Just
- 2:40Speaker 1: gone seven after one. Sing us a song, you're the
- 2:44Speaker 1: piano man. Sing us a song tonight. Well, we're all
- 2:51Speaker 1: in the mood for... Peter Allen is a deer farmer
- 2:53Speaker 1: based at the Glen Ewer. I heard him chuckling away
- 2:56Speaker 1: in the background there, so he must agree with the song.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Piano Man by Billy Joel. Good afternoon, Pete.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Yeah, love it.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Love a bit of Billy Joel. Makes me smile. No, thanks, Andy.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
- 3:07Speaker 1: We spoke to you last time up there. You're not
- 3:09Speaker 1: far away from the Caroline Valley, the Glen Ewers exactly,
- 3:12Speaker 1: just out of Balfour. It was pretty wet. Have things changed?
- 3:17Speaker 3: A little bit. Every now and then it just reminds
- 3:19Speaker 3: us that we're still in spring. Like I said to
- 3:22Speaker 3: you off air, Andy, Friday was just atrocious there. My
- 3:26Speaker 3: wife Diane and I spent the whole day sorting up
- 3:29Speaker 3: 350 hinds into five respective fawning mobs and it just
- 3:32Speaker 3: snowed and sleeted all day and then The next day
- 3:35Speaker 3: it'd come out not too bad, and we just don't
- 3:37Speaker 3: seem to get two days the same. But that's spring
- 3:39Speaker 3: in Southland.
- 3:41Speaker 1: How are your feed levels looking then, all things considered?
- 3:46Speaker 3: They were not too bad. All the young grasses, and
- 3:48Speaker 3: we're trying to save up paddocks. There's just a game
- 3:50Speaker 3: of chess still at the moment with maximum stock units on.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Nothing's headed off farm at the moment. And winter crops
- 3:58Speaker 3: finished a while ago. Some of the covers are not
- 4:02Speaker 3: too bad, but some are very, very short. we could
- 4:05Speaker 3: do with a bit more growth and a bit more heat,
- 4:08Speaker 3: and it's about consistency. But, you know, the condition of
- 4:11Speaker 3: the animals, not too.
- 4:12Speaker 4: Bad, really.
- 4:13Speaker 1: What's it like for pagging with deer?
- 4:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you do certainly get a lot of it. But
- 4:21Speaker 3: there's been a lot of reparatory work done that I've
- 4:23Speaker 3: had to do in the last month, but a lot
- 4:25Speaker 3: of that has been on runoff from their winter crops.
- 4:30Speaker 3: The younger animals are not too bad, and it's more
- 4:33Speaker 3: tracking than anything. We don't get fence tracking so much
- 4:38Speaker 3: here because we spend so much time and effort putting
- 4:41Speaker 3: shelter belts up, so when you've got a sight screen there,
- 4:44Speaker 3: they don't walk fence lines, so that's not an issue. But, yeah,
- 4:49Speaker 3: it's like everything else. The older the stags, they do
- 4:52Speaker 3: have a decent footprint.
- 4:53Speaker 1: When do you start wrapping up some supplements, or is
- 4:56Speaker 1: that after Christmas?
- 4:58Speaker 3: Yeah, we never get into it too early here because
- 5:01Speaker 3: of the amount of, animals we have on, plus also
- 5:08Speaker 3: we don't normally do any baleage until February, March. It
- 5:12Speaker 3: sounds a little bit later, but it works pretty well here.
- 5:14Speaker 3: We're still putting in crop paddocks quite late this year,
- 5:19Speaker 3: maybe even into January. We'll just see what happens. We're
- 5:21Speaker 3: about to get a digger in here for the next
- 5:24Speaker 3: 10 days, and that's a month behind schedule, but I
- 5:26Speaker 3: won't expand on the reasons for that. everybody seems to
- 5:31Speaker 3: want them at the moment. So now our son will
- 5:33Speaker 3: be here for the next 10 days, but I haven't
- 5:34Speaker 3: sort of managed to get off the end of the shovel.
- 5:36Speaker 3: So hopefully that'll sort itself out in the next few years.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Those calluses on your hands will never get the chance
- 5:43Speaker 1: to heal, Pete. That's just the nature of the game.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yeah. The one thing you do with velveting is you
- 5:49Speaker 3: get pretty soft hands because you're in water, you know,
- 5:51Speaker 3: 50 times a day. So no, that's not an issue.
- 5:54Speaker 3: But look, one thing I wanted to touch on today, Andy, um,
- 5:58Speaker 3: And it's prudent and pertinent we just sorted up hinds
- 6:01Speaker 3: into fawning mobs. And I've had discussions with certain farmers.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Over the years.
- 6:05Speaker 3: There is still far too high a loss in fawn
- 6:09Speaker 3: loss from displacing and misadventure is probably the best word.
- 6:14Speaker 3: And farmers need to be a little more vigilant on
- 6:17Speaker 3: their paddocks, and particularly the gates at the end of
- 6:19Speaker 3: tree lanes and things like that. And after a winter
- 6:23Speaker 3: where there's deeper tyre marks through gateways. Because it doesn't
- 6:28Speaker 3: take a lot for a fawn to get out of
- 6:29Speaker 3: that fawning paddock. And once it gets out of that paddock,
- 6:35Speaker 3: it's basically the end of its life. And I know
- 6:37Speaker 3: that sounds really harsh, but sometimes you have to speak
- 6:41Speaker 3: like that to get the message through. Once those fawns
- 6:44Speaker 3: get under a gate into the next paddock, they won't
- 6:46Speaker 3: come back because they don't have the ability at a
- 6:49Speaker 3: few days old or a few hours old to get back.
- 6:52Speaker 3: And it's just a simple matter of either filling up
- 6:56Speaker 3: the big holes under gateways with rock or gravel or
- 6:59Speaker 3: flat bottom posts and things like that, but tightening up
- 7:02Speaker 3: your chains and things. People just need to go around
- 7:06Speaker 3: every paddock. Like we had 28 gates around the six
- 7:09Speaker 3: forming paddocks. It sounds like a lot, but, you know,
- 7:12Speaker 3: there's some corners that have got four gates into four
- 7:15Speaker 3: different paddocks. And, you know, I took about 85 ton
- 7:20Speaker 3: over a period of week and We've got some good
- 7:23Speaker 3: rotten rock here, and it's far better than putting in
- 7:25Speaker 3: posts underneath gateways and things like that. But yeah, it
- 7:30Speaker 3: still surprises me that some people do lose more than
- 7:33Speaker 3: they actually need to.
- 7:35Speaker 1: How realistic is it to hand rear fawns?
- 7:38Speaker 3: Well, my wife's done it quite a few times, and
- 7:40Speaker 3: they make incredible pets, especially the little fellow. There's nothing better.
- 7:46Speaker 3: That's probably a little bit biased, but no, they make
- 7:49Speaker 3: amazing pets. And you can take them off their mums
- 7:52Speaker 3: at a day old just after they've had their first
- 7:56Speaker 3: drink of colostrum because the fawns, when they're born, they'll
- 7:58Speaker 3: have probably upwards of nine or ten feeds a day
- 8:02Speaker 3: for the first week. And a lot of people don't
- 8:06Speaker 3: even realise that the hinds have got four milking teats,
- 8:09Speaker 3: a lot of glandular milk in a deer. And, no,
- 8:14Speaker 3: we've successfully raised fawns. A lot of people will raise
- 8:16Speaker 3: red fawns and they turn into wonderful pets, so... Quite easy.
- 8:20Speaker 3: You can get them onto things like lamb teats or
- 8:23Speaker 3: you can actually just have them sucking out of, say,
- 8:25Speaker 3: an ice cream container from starting on your finger and
- 8:29Speaker 3: things like that. So no, we've done it a few times.
- 8:32Speaker 1: So as far as fawns, I don't know, venturing away
- 8:36Speaker 1: from mum and not coming back, how often would that
- 8:38Speaker 1: occur every year, would you say, on average?
- 8:40Speaker 3: Well, you don't know until they're dead and you go
- 8:43Speaker 3: and mow your paddock and things like that because you're
- 8:45Speaker 3: leaving those animals to do their own thing. and the
- 8:48Speaker 3: human interference, you just stay away. So you only find
- 8:52Speaker 3: all these things out retrospectively. So it's like a lot
- 8:54Speaker 3: of things in life. You know, prevention's the best cure there.
- 8:58Speaker 1: As far as the venison and velvet schedules or seasons
- 9:01Speaker 1: or the likes, what are we predicting?
- 9:04Speaker 3: Yeah, well, venison has been very stable and still looking
- 9:07Speaker 3: very stable, but, you know, it's also on the back
- 9:09Speaker 3: of lesser production, so therefore we're not having to... look
- 9:18Speaker 3: for any more markets is probably the best way to
- 9:21Speaker 3: describe that at the moment. We're probably undersupplying some of
- 9:24Speaker 3: the top-end markets, if anything, with venison. Now, velvet, Andy,
- 9:29Speaker 3: last year was probably one of the worst years in
- 9:32Speaker 3: the last 25 years. We had an oversupply, an overhang
- 9:36Speaker 3: of velvet into China, and the price, well, crashed is
- 9:41Speaker 3: probably a little bit harsh, but certainly not a lot
- 9:44Speaker 3: of tax paid from a lot of farmers from velvet
- 9:46Speaker 3: last year. We thought it would take a couple of
- 9:48Speaker 3: years to turn around, but price is out already and
- 9:51Speaker 3: indications are that things could turn around quite quickly. And
- 9:56Speaker 3: it's on the back of a couple of major Chinese buyers.
- 10:00Speaker 3: that didn't actually buy last year, and they probably didn't
- 10:02Speaker 3: predict that it was going to come up this quick.
- 10:05Speaker 3: So the demand is looking good, but it's also on
- 10:07Speaker 3: the back of quite a significant kill of velveting stags
- 10:12Speaker 3: last year, and kudos to all the venison companies for
- 10:15Speaker 3: accommodating that. And it looks as though it might turn
- 10:19Speaker 3: around to be not too bad a season, but we
- 10:21Speaker 3: never know until the season's done.
- 10:23Speaker 1: It's incredible how it's changed in 12 months, like you say.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 10:28Speaker 3: But like a lot of things, you don't count your
- 10:30Speaker 3: chickens until they're in the bank, as far as that goes.
- 10:34Speaker 1: That's for sure. Hey, just to wrap up, Pete, you've
- 10:37Speaker 1: been a big fan of your tennis over the years.
- 10:39Speaker 1: The Northern Southland Tennis Sub-Association, or Sub-Union, I suppose, their
- 10:43Speaker 1: 100th is coming up next March up in Te Anau.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Regos are open. This will be a good weekend.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Should be, Andy. Yeah, everybody that's been involved. I was
- 10:53Speaker 3: incredibly lucky. I was chairing Northern Tennis at the time.
- 10:56Speaker 3: We had four clubs in Tenerife. So, no, it was
- 10:59Speaker 3: a wonderful period and... Yeah, no, everybody should get on
- 11:04Speaker 3: board and, you know, put the entries in, early, early indications. So, no,
- 11:10Speaker 3: that's good, and looking forward to it.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Good on you, Pete. We'll let you carry on in
- 11:14Speaker 1: the trenches, quite literally. Catch up to you next time.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Thanks, Andy.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Peter Allen, deer farming up there at Balfour. Yeah, the
- 11:22Speaker 1: Northern South and Tennis Centenary, 19th to the 21st of March, 2027.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Facebook page is up and running. Get involved. Tom Shellard's next.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Feeling all right. Tom Shallard of Craig's Investment Partners joins
- 11:39Speaker 2: us in studio once again, good afternoon Good afternoon Andy,
- 11:42Speaker 2: once again another very busy week across the country, plenty
- 11:45Speaker 2: to talk about It's been a busy old week, it's
- 11:47Speaker 2: been a busy old year.
- 12:06Speaker 5: It has been. It has been. Only two months to go.
- 12:08Speaker 5: It's hard to believe.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Talking about work, you talk about dairy, the GDT last night. Yes, again,
- 12:14Speaker 1: another big positive.
- 12:15Speaker 5: Another strong auction, up 3%, and that's seven strong auctions
- 12:20Speaker 5: out of the last eight, and back to highs in March. So, yeah,
- 12:24Speaker 5: pretty good to see. That supports Fonterra's recent guidance around 9.75%.
- 12:30Speaker 1: That just seems to be the way these auctions go, though.
- 12:33Speaker 1: There's a lull in the middle of winter, as you'd expect,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and as you get into the season, it seems to
- 12:38Speaker 1: build up.
- 12:39Speaker 5: Yeah, it tends to match the supply and demand curve,
- 12:40Speaker 5: doesn't it?
- 12:41Speaker 1: Pretty much. Right, elections. It's the big buzzword this week. But,
- 12:47Speaker 1: I mean, markets and the likes... If it goes either way, which, well,
- 12:51Speaker 1: that's going to happen. That's a given. But it's a
- 12:53Speaker 1: matter of which way it goes. And I suppose there's
- 12:56Speaker 1: a bit of nervousness out there regarding the sector, not
- 12:59Speaker 1: the sectors, but anything and everything.
- 13:01Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I mean, for markets, the question isn't necessarily
- 13:05Speaker 5: who wins the election or what coalition is formed. It's
- 13:09Speaker 5: just how quickly we get a workable government. I mean,
- 13:13Speaker 5: markets don't like uncertainty, whatever that may be. But in
- 13:16Speaker 5: this case, yeah, political uncertainty. So if Saturday doesn't give
- 13:19Speaker 5: us a clear answer, I mean, yeah, keep the kettle on.
- 13:24Speaker 5: We'll have to wait and see what materialises from negotiations
- 13:27Speaker 5: until we get a workable government. But that might well
- 13:31Speaker 5: happen on Saturday. Who knows? It looks tighter than the
- 13:33Speaker 5: Melbourne Cup. So, yeah, that will be interesting. I mean,
- 13:38Speaker 5: it's too close to call, so we really do just
- 13:40Speaker 5: have to wait and see.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Would you say there's a few nerves out there in
- 13:45Speaker 1: the market, considering it could be a four-way coalition?
- 13:49Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. No, there absolutely is. And, yeah, from an
- 13:54Speaker 5: uncertainty point of view, markets just want to know, you know,
- 13:57Speaker 5: what would be tweaked at the margins if, you know,
- 14:00Speaker 5: a certain coalition got in, and that sort of can
- 14:03Speaker 5: look like tax settings, you know, which are the topic
- 14:06Speaker 5: of the election, really.
- 14:08Speaker 1: The Reserve Bank last week... They played it in the
- 14:11Speaker 1: V with a Kane Williamson straight bat, didn't they? Surprising
- 14:14Speaker 1: everybody with a hold.
- 14:16Speaker 5: Yeah, you said it better than I could have, Andy,
- 14:18Speaker 5: but I don't know if it was entirely, I mean,
- 14:21Speaker 5: it certainly surprised markets that a 25-point hike was actually
- 14:25Speaker 5: fully priced in. But, you know, a week out from
- 14:28Speaker 5: an election, does it really surprise you retrospectively? Who knows? But, yeah, look,
- 14:34Speaker 5: it was a close call. Three of seven members were
- 14:36Speaker 5: supporting a hike. So yeah, it's definitely more of a
- 14:40Speaker 5: pause than the end of this tightening cycle. There's probably
- 14:44Speaker 5: a bigger global story there as well. Central banks aren't
- 14:47Speaker 5: the only ones tightening financial conditions. You just have to
- 14:51Speaker 5: look at the US bond market. It's doing some of
- 14:53Speaker 5: the work for them.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Is it a concern though that the board of the
- 14:57Speaker 1: Reserve Bank weren't on the same page though regarding a lift?
- 15:01Speaker 5: Not necessarily. You do tend to see differing views and
- 15:07Speaker 5: I guess that's how you've got seven around the table
- 15:11Speaker 5: and a consensus won't always be formed.
- 15:18Speaker 1: So interest rates, mortgages and everything as well, everybody can
- 15:21Speaker 1: just breathe for a little bit longer?
- 15:23Speaker 5: Yeah, but it certainly is trending a little bit upward
- 15:26Speaker 5: with increased energy costs and higher inflation.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Speaking of inflation, New Zealand business confidence is actually appearing
- 15:36Speaker 1: pretty robust despite everything at the moment. I mean, down
- 15:38Speaker 1: here in the south, it's a given. We're going ahead
- 15:41Speaker 1: in massive strides. The rest of the country, though, especially
- 15:44Speaker 1: up north, it's a different scenario. But businesses seem pretty positive.
- 15:48Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we've probably talked many times now about
- 15:51Speaker 5: what's happening in the rural economy. But across some of
- 15:54Speaker 5: the major centres, actually, businesses do seem remarkably resilient despite
- 16:00Speaker 5: Geopolitical uncertainty, higher fuel prices, higher business costs, higher wage bills.
- 16:06Speaker 5: So that is actually quite encouraging that business confidence is
- 16:09Speaker 5: holding up. I'd say a lot of people are looking
- 16:11Speaker 5: towards inflation as a bit of a watch point. Companies
- 16:16Speaker 5: that are expecting higher costs do tend to pass that
- 16:19Speaker 5: on to their consumers, which leads to price increases. So
- 16:26Speaker 5: energy is an important part of the story there. And yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 5: we really need to see some sort of resolution with
- 16:33Speaker 5: this energy crisis. And hopefully that will lead to a
- 16:37Speaker 5: drop in some of those longer dated interest rates.
- 16:42Speaker 1: This might seem like a silly question, but are we
- 16:44Speaker 1: still seeing remnants of the after effects of COVID? Or
- 16:48Speaker 1: is that null and void after six years now? That's
- 16:50Speaker 1: two political terms on, I suppose.
- 16:53Speaker 5: Well, we probably still haven't really emerged from the rut
- 16:59Speaker 5: of quite a severe recession on the back of COVID
- 17:02Speaker 5: and that really steep rate hiking cycle we saw in
- 17:07Speaker 5: 2022 and 2023. So, yeah, it's called a K-shaped economy.
- 17:12Speaker 5: There's divergence. The sector's doing really, really well. and there's
- 17:17Speaker 5: the sectors that aren't. And that creates, you know, people
- 17:21Speaker 5: living in the same economy, two different economic outcomes. And
- 17:25Speaker 5: you can see that quite clearly.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Right. Speaking of elections, the US midterms and the old Trumpster,
- 17:30Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he could be, he might be about to
- 17:33Speaker 1: lose some of his power.
- 17:34Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
- 17:35Speaker 5: It's another big event for markets. As you said, you know,
- 17:39Speaker 5: Democrats expected to win the House. Senate's looking like a
- 17:43Speaker 5: pretty close fight as well. Republicans currently control both. So, look,
- 17:47Speaker 5: any change to the control of Congress will make President
- 17:53Speaker 5: Trump's domestic agenda much harder to advance. He's already made
- 17:58Speaker 5: a few public comments about his ability to veto anything
- 18:02Speaker 5: that comes across his desk that isn't favourable for, I guess,
- 18:08Speaker 5: Republican interests. So, yeah, it's going to be very, very interesting,
- 18:12Speaker 5: and we'll see. some of that information start to flow
- 18:15Speaker 5: through this afternoon.
- 18:16Speaker 1: You talk about being domestic, the domestic scene in America
- 18:20Speaker 1: and how it'll change. What about international? What about these tariffs?
- 18:23Speaker 1: Will we see any change there?
- 18:25Speaker 5: Not necessarily. He'll still have the ability under laws that
- 18:30Speaker 5: he's already, I guess, exploited.
- 18:32Speaker 1: So it's all domestic?
- 18:33Speaker 5: Yeah, to advance his tariff and trade policies agendas. So
- 18:37Speaker 5: probably not going to see too much change there, I
- 18:39Speaker 5: don't think, Andy.
- 18:40Speaker 1: But it's certainly going to be interesting times over the
- 18:43Speaker 1: next seven days. Craig's Investment Partners, you're opposite you, World,
- 18:46Speaker 1: but what is your physical address?
- 18:48Speaker 5: 1 Erick Street, Andy, and you can call me on
- 18:51Speaker 5: 03 209 0152. Good on you, Tom.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Enjoy the hour.
- 18:54Speaker 5: Thanks, Andy.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Tom Shallard of Craig's Investment Partners, based right here in Gore.
- 19:00Speaker 1: This is the must-up. As a look at the notes,
- 19:03Speaker 1: who have we got next? Keely Buckingham of Dairy NZ.
- 19:07Speaker 1: I may have won your heart's... Billy Joel is the artist,
- 19:19Speaker 1: as if you needed reminding, that song there called Allentown.
- 19:23Speaker 1: You're listening to The Muster. We're away to catch up
- 19:26Speaker 1: with Keely Buckingham. She's up in Canterbury this afternoon. G'day, Keely.
- 19:30Speaker 3: Hey, Andy.
- 19:30Speaker 7: How are you going?
- 19:32Speaker 1: Very well. It's overcast. There's no wind. And it's reasonably
- 19:36Speaker 1: pleasant at the moment down here in the south, I
- 19:38Speaker 1: think it's fair to say.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Perfect.
- 19:40Speaker 7: Yes, it has been. It's been cracking. How good was Saturday?
- 19:43Speaker 1: Yeah, better than Friday.
- 19:45Speaker 7: Yeah, and Sunday.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Absolutely, look, everyone out in the paddocks at the moment
- 19:51Speaker 1: doing the cultivation work, thinking about next season. A couple
- 19:54Speaker 1: of reminders today.
- 19:56Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, you know, being going flat out our
- 20:00Speaker 7: way too, and so just a few key messages if
- 20:03Speaker 7: you haven't started cultivation yet is just making sure, number one,
- 20:07Speaker 7: just making sure you've got that cultivation plan done, those
- 20:11Speaker 7: winter grazing plans, so making sure that you've mapped out
- 20:14Speaker 7: those swales, waterways buffer zones that you want left by
- 20:19Speaker 7: the contractors and then sharing those plans with our contractors
- 20:23Speaker 7: I know some that lots of people do do very
- 20:26Speaker 7: well is having really thorough plans so if you don't
- 20:30Speaker 7: and haven't passed them on to your contractors to do
- 20:34Speaker 7: so yet then please make sure that you do that
- 20:37Speaker 7: And just doing it early as possible, like sharing that
- 20:40Speaker 7: plan and agreeing on, you know, what ways cultivation is
- 20:44Speaker 7: being done, the direction of that. And even if it's
- 20:47Speaker 7: doing simple things like fencing off those critical source areas
- 20:50Speaker 7: out in paddocks or swales or zones of the paddock
- 20:53Speaker 7: you don't want sprayed out first and therefore indefinitely then
- 20:57Speaker 7: don't want cultivated. Just some nice easy tips. The second
- 21:01Speaker 7: one is leaving those buffer zones in grass. So leaving
- 21:07Speaker 7: them in grass just means that it acts as a
- 21:10Speaker 7: bit of a barrier to slow down that nutrient loss,
- 21:15Speaker 7: especially around those waterways and critical source areas. And, yeah,
- 21:20Speaker 7: with the rules as well, they do need to stay
- 21:22Speaker 7: in grass all through winter. So, yeah, and then just
- 21:28Speaker 7: around buffer zones, just making sure you know how far
- 21:31Speaker 7: those buffer zones need to be. So if it's 10 metres.
- 21:36Speaker 7: Around buffers, I mean, sorry, 10 metres where slopes are
- 21:40Speaker 7: less than 10 degrees and 20 where slopes are higher
- 21:43Speaker 7: than 10 degrees. So just, if you haven't marked those
- 21:46Speaker 7: out before cultivators head in there, then also it's another
- 21:49Speaker 7: easy thing to do as well.
- 21:52Speaker 1: In general, how do farmers go regarding these regulations, would
- 21:55Speaker 1: you say?
- 21:57Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we've seen a really, really good turn
- 22:00Speaker 7: towards good management practice in this space and certainly In
- 22:05Speaker 7: terms of what we see across the country, Southland's certainly
- 22:08Speaker 7: leading the charge in that space. Most of us are very,
- 22:11Speaker 7: very aware of what we need to do to make
- 22:14Speaker 7: wintering as good as it can be and have as
- 22:18Speaker 7: less impact on the environment as possible. So it's really
- 22:22Speaker 7: cool to see. Seeing heaps of cool buffer zones and
- 22:24Speaker 7: good buffer zones being left in grass, even just my
- 22:28Speaker 7: drive to town every day, seeing what's happening out in paddocks,
- 22:31Speaker 7: it's looking really good. but you know especially if you've
- 22:35Speaker 7: got contractors coming in to do that you know the
- 22:39Speaker 7: liability still sits with you at the end of the
- 22:41Speaker 7: day and so making sure your contractors already know you
- 22:45Speaker 7: know the go zones and the direction that you want
- 22:49Speaker 7: things cultivated in as well is really important and just
- 22:53Speaker 7: on that direction just where possible I guess that's the
- 22:57Speaker 7: last message is cultivating across the slope where possible just
- 23:03Speaker 7: going and cultivating across the slope can just reduce the
- 23:05Speaker 7: runoff and soil loss. And if you can't practically cultivate
- 23:10Speaker 7: across the slope, then potentially the paddock might not be
- 23:13Speaker 7: as suitable as we would like it to be for
- 23:16Speaker 7: winter cropping. So just something to think about. I know
- 23:18Speaker 7: plans are already in place and paddocks are being shut
- 23:21Speaker 7: out to be taken out for crop, but if it's
- 23:23Speaker 7: still an option to consider sowing direction and cultivation direction,
- 23:29Speaker 7: then certainly something to think about.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Kylie, as far as the paperwork situation with winter grazing,
- 23:34Speaker 1: where are we at these days with it? Because I'll
- 23:36Speaker 1: be honest, I get lost with what you need to do.
- 23:38Speaker 1: How bad is it, or is it not complicated?
- 23:40Speaker 7: No, we've got templates on our website around winter grazing
- 23:45Speaker 7: plans and how to do them. It's as simple as
- 23:48Speaker 7: having your paddock drawn out on a page, have all
- 23:51Speaker 7: your critical source areas identified. Some people like to put
- 23:56Speaker 7: where their bales are placed. Having a direction of grazing.
- 24:00Speaker 7: planned on there as well and just with a simple
- 24:03Speaker 7: thing as an arrow of where you want to start
- 24:05Speaker 7: and if there are parts of the paddock that you
- 24:07Speaker 7: need to graze differently down towards potential critical source areas
- 24:12Speaker 7: we might split the paddock up into different grazing direction
- 24:15Speaker 7: sections I see a lot of people now will chuck
- 24:19Speaker 7: a drone up over their crop paddocks and then just
- 24:21Speaker 7: do it on on the computer, overlay the plan on
- 24:25Speaker 7: top of a picture of the actual paddock, so that's
- 24:28Speaker 7: a nice easy way to do it as well, if
- 24:29Speaker 7: that's an option. So no, not hard, and it's nice
- 24:33Speaker 7: to have a plan because some of the detail can
- 24:37Speaker 7: then be passed on to your staff too, and something
- 24:39Speaker 7: to refer back to at the start of winter or
- 24:41Speaker 7: midway through the winter, oh, how were we going to
- 24:43Speaker 7: graze that part of the paddock? What were we going
- 24:45Speaker 7: to do? around that wee hollow part, you know, things
- 24:48Speaker 7: like that. So easy to do now and then, you know,
- 24:51Speaker 7: you don't have to really look at it once the
- 24:53Speaker 7: crop's on the ground until winter starts.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Good on you, Kayleigh. Good to catch up as always.
- 24:57Speaker 7: All right. Thanks, Andy.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Kayleigh Buckingham of Dairy NZ. Iron horse is going all
- 25:04Speaker 1: over the show at the moment as the weather is
- 25:06Speaker 1: allowing it to. You're listening to the muster up next,
- 25:08Speaker 1: Mo Topham. And before the end of the hour, Jaden Henderson.
- 25:16Speaker 1: You know I seen her in her uptown world Welcome
- 25:22Speaker 1: back to the muster. The Southland Rural Support Trust, they're
- 25:25Speaker 1: doing some events this week to coincide with the SBS
- 25:28Speaker 1: Bank Tour of Southland. Their coffee shouts happening tomorrow at
- 25:32Speaker 1: Gropers Bush, then again on Friday at Woodland School. But
- 25:35Speaker 1: as well, Rural Riders is back underway for 2026 Wednesday evenings.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Mo Topham's on the line to give us a rundown
- 25:44Speaker 1: on Rural Riders and what to expect. G'day Mo, good
- 25:47Speaker 1: to chat.
- 25:48Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me Andy. Um, Yeah, a bit
- 25:51Speaker 4: different to the old tour of Southland, but your Rural
- 25:54Speaker 4: Riders is on again in Southland. This is our third season,
- 25:57Speaker 4: which is pretty cool.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Did you think your last three seasons with the initiative?
- 26:03Speaker 4: I really liked the initiative. It's been such a cool
- 26:06Speaker 4: thing to be involved with, getting farmers off farm and
- 26:10Speaker 4: talking farming but not on a farm, and also meeting
- 26:14Speaker 4: some people with some like-minded interests. Yeah. It's been good.
- 26:18Speaker 4: We've been seeing some of our rural riders off at
- 26:20Speaker 4: races further north, which has been really cool.
- 26:23Speaker 1: This isn't just a Southland initiative, though. Is this nationwide?
- 26:27Speaker 4: Yeah, there are 13 groups throughout the country, but we've
- 26:31Speaker 4: got two groups in Southland. So we've got a group
- 26:34Speaker 4: that alternates every Wednesday night between the Oat Perry Hall
- 26:39Speaker 4: and Sandy Point. And then there's also a group that's
- 26:42Speaker 4: meeting monthly up at Waikāia and doing those new tracks
- 26:46Speaker 4: in the Waikāia forestry up there. It's a beautiful track.
- 26:50Speaker 4: It's definitely worth getting up there.
- 26:52Speaker 1: So what can people expect when they turn up to
- 26:55Speaker 1: Rural Riders?
- 26:56Speaker 4: So the event is free. We ask people to register
- 27:01Speaker 4: before they come along, just from a health and safety perspective.
- 27:05Speaker 4: and to make sure we've got enough food for the
- 27:06Speaker 4: barbecue at the end. But once people get there, we
- 27:10Speaker 4: divide up into groups, depending on how far people want
- 27:13Speaker 4: to go and what sort of speed they want to do.
- 27:16Speaker 4: And then we go off and have a bike ride
- 27:19Speaker 4: out at Otapiri. That's a gravel ride, and it's absolutely
- 27:22Speaker 4: stunning out there. And then down at Sandy Point, we're
- 27:25Speaker 4: out on the mountain bike tracks and just go and
- 27:28Speaker 4: have a bit of fun for an hour or so,
- 27:30Speaker 4: and then come back for a barbecue and a catch-up.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And what time do you start?
- 27:34Speaker 4: 6.30 on a Wednesday night.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And there's been good numbers?
- 27:40Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent numbers. So anywhere from 15 to 25, and
- 27:45Speaker 4: within that we have a lot of people who are
- 27:46Speaker 4: coming back each week. It's part of their social calendar now.
- 27:51Speaker 1: And that's the important thing about these events, I suppose, Mo,
- 27:53Speaker 1: is encouraging farmers to get off farm. It's been a
- 27:56Speaker 1: grind over the spring. We don't need to go back
- 27:58Speaker 1: over that, but this is just an outlet for people
- 28:01Speaker 1: if they want it.
- 28:02Speaker 4: Oh, definitely. It was absolutely fantastic to get back into
- 28:06Speaker 4: it this year, particularly after that wonderful spring we all endured.
- 28:11Speaker 4: And everyone said, you know, it's just so good to
- 28:14Speaker 4: be back out on a bike, chatting away to friends
- 28:18Speaker 4: that we've made through the rural riders and being able
- 28:20Speaker 4: to reconnect again.
- 28:22Speaker 1: So this will happen through the summer, I'd imagine?
- 28:25Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll take a break for Christmas and New Year's,
- 28:28Speaker 4: but we'll be back into it in about mid-January.
- 28:31Speaker 1: And as one of those events as well, like you say,
- 28:35Speaker 1: it's a great chance for people to go and do
- 28:37Speaker 1: something different. Have you thought about doing mountain biking to
- 28:41Speaker 1: go along? Obviously, taking your own bike, I suppose, is
- 28:44Speaker 1: a prerequisite.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone has brought their own bike, but there are
- 28:49Speaker 4: a lot of people within the group who have multiple bikes.
- 28:52Speaker 4: So if someone wants to come along and they don't
- 28:55Speaker 4: have a bike of their own, get in touch with
- 28:57Speaker 4: us and we'll see what we can do.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Yeah, so good. So what are the details for tonight
- 29:02Speaker 1: that people need to know?
- 29:03Speaker 4: So tonight we're out at Sandy Point. So it starts
- 29:08Speaker 4: at 6.30 from the main car park that's out there.
- 29:13Speaker 4: To register and for any other information, I recommend people
- 29:16Speaker 4: go to the website, which is forfarmers.co.nz. And you'll see
- 29:23Speaker 4: at the top there, there's a Rural Riders tab, and
- 29:26Speaker 4: just click into there, and it's got the information for
- 29:29Speaker 4: our group, the Otopiri Sandy Point One, but it also
- 29:32Speaker 4: has the information for the Waikāia group, along with all
- 29:36Speaker 4: the phone numbers of the organisers. So if anyone has
- 29:38Speaker 4: any questions or questions, just get in touch with us.
- 29:43Speaker 1: You're South Mo you do quite a bit of bike riding?
- 29:46Speaker 4: Yeah never enough Andy and certainly not at the Tour
- 29:50Speaker 4: of South 1 type level but I enjoy getting out
- 29:53Speaker 4: for an adventure and seeing some new countryside and if
- 29:56Speaker 4: you can do that in good company then Yep, you're
- 29:59Speaker 4: on to a winner, aren't you?
- 30:01Speaker 1: Absolutely. Hey, good on you, Mo. It's always great to
- 30:03Speaker 1: hear of these things that are continuing and that aren't
- 30:06Speaker 1: just one season wonders as such. So like you say,
- 30:09Speaker 1: get on board there, go and turn up at Sandy
- 30:11Speaker 1: Point tonight. Good to catch up.
- 30:13Speaker 4: Awesome. Thank you, Andy.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Mo Topham, on behalf of Rural Riders, of course, Southland
- 30:20Speaker 1: Rural Support Trust, 0800 787 254. There is always somebody
- 30:25Speaker 1: at the other end of the phone if you need
- 30:27Speaker 1: to have a conversation. Remembering as well, tomorrow, Groper's Bush
- 30:31Speaker 1: for the SBS Bank Tour of Southwind Coffee Shout and
- 30:35Speaker 1: 6th of November, which is Friday, funnily enough, at Woodland School.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Up next, before we wrap up, Jaden Henderson. I don't
- 30:45Speaker 1: care what you say anymore. This is my life.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Go ahead with your own life.
- 30:54Speaker 1: This is the muster on Hokanui. Jaden Henderson. I think
- 30:57Speaker 1: it's fair to say the guy's had a pretty exceptional year.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Starting off not really with any expectations regarding his rugby
- 31:05Speaker 1: career and ending up Um, he's going away to join
- 31:08Speaker 1: the Crusaders, uh, wider training squad later on this month.
- 31:12Speaker 1: He joins us this afternoon to give us from his perspective,
- 31:15Speaker 1: I suppose, how the season's all gone. Jaden, good afternoon.
- 31:18Speaker 1: You must be still pinching yourself at the way things
- 31:20Speaker 1: have unfolded.
- 31:21Speaker 6: How you going Andy? Uh, yeah, thanks very much for
- 31:25Speaker 6: having me on the show. Yeah, definitely pinching myself at, um,
- 31:28Speaker 6: how everything's unfolded this year, but, um, yeah, pretty, pretty
- 31:31Speaker 6: grateful for the opportunity and, um, Pretty cool to first
- 31:35Speaker 6: and foremost be back down south, back home in Southland,
- 31:38Speaker 6: playing rugby here and then, yeah, heading up the road
- 31:41Speaker 6: to Crosschurch. Yeah, very exciting.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Because you're an absolute southern boy at heart, aren't you?
- 31:46Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, grew up in Riversdale. Yeah, did my schooling
- 31:51Speaker 6: here at Riversdale and went up to Target Boys there
- 31:54Speaker 6: for a few years, then up to Lincoln. So, yeah,
- 31:58Speaker 6: a bit familiar with Crosschurch as well. And, yeah, obviously
- 32:01Speaker 6: moved back down here, Worked as a livestock rep for
- 32:06Speaker 6: about four years before heading overseas to play some rugby. So, yeah.
- 32:11Speaker 1: So going overseas to play rugby, had you given up
- 32:14Speaker 1: on that stag's dream more or less? Did that come
- 32:16Speaker 1: into the equation, Jaden?
- 32:18Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:19Speaker 6: I sort of was looking for an opportunity. Yeah, wanting
- 32:23Speaker 6: to push myself past club level. And, yeah, obviously MPC
- 32:27Speaker 6: didn't happen at the time. So, yeah, I went to Ireland.
- 32:33Speaker 6: I went over there for about four months. The rugby
- 32:36Speaker 6: over there wasn't really what I was expecting, but yeah,
- 32:40Speaker 6: it was a pretty cool experience. Got a good look
- 32:42Speaker 6: around Europe and then come back to Australia, played in
- 32:46Speaker 6: the shoot shield in Sydney. Yeah, learned a lot in
- 32:50Speaker 6: Sydney and it was a really big step up from
- 32:53Speaker 6: club rugby here and yeah. So that for two years
- 32:57Speaker 6: and then sitting at home one day at my flat
- 33:00Speaker 6: and got a text from Scotty to come back to
- 33:04Speaker 6: Southend and jumped at the opportunity. So yeah, I've been
- 33:08Speaker 6: a bit all over the show since I think it
- 33:10Speaker 6: was about 2024 when I left to go overseas. But yeah,
- 33:15Speaker 6: it's pretty.
- 33:16Speaker 8: Awesome to be back.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Interesting you say the rugby in Ireland wasn't as anticipated.
- 33:20Speaker 1: What was the story there? Different structure?
- 33:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:24Speaker 6: Oh, I sort of picked up an opportunity off Facebook
- 33:26Speaker 6: and they talked it up that it was going to
- 33:28Speaker 6: be a really good level of rugby. And yeah, it
- 33:32Speaker 6: wasn't sort of what I was after. But yeah, I
- 33:35Speaker 6: sort of saw it as more of an OE, a
- 33:36Speaker 6: bit of an experience over there. Yeah, rugby's obviously not
- 33:42Speaker 6: the number one sport in Ireland, but the level I
- 33:44Speaker 6: was playing was not quite as high as I would
- 33:48Speaker 6: have liked to have played. But, yeah, awesome experience. Learned
- 33:52Speaker 6: a lot about myself, actually. Did a bit of coaching
- 33:54Speaker 6: while I was over there. And, yeah, you gain an
- 33:57Speaker 6: appreciation for coaches in that sense because, yeah, it was
- 34:01Speaker 6: quite tough teaching kids that had never held a rugby
- 34:04Speaker 6: ball before how to play rugby. So, yeah, pretty humbling experience.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Playing in the shoot shield, though, that's a decent level
- 34:10Speaker 1: of rugby as well. That's not to be ignored.
- 34:13Speaker 6: No, really good level of rugby. Yeah, big step up
- 34:16Speaker 6: speed-wise and physicality. The biggest shock to me was actually
- 34:21Speaker 6: the heat. You know, the first game I played there
- 34:25Speaker 6: was 37 degrees, so we're having 20-minute water breaks, and, yeah,
- 34:29Speaker 6: I lost a lot of sweat that day, so a
- 34:32Speaker 6: few power-aids after to get the body right, but, yeah,
- 34:37Speaker 6: it was a big change, and, yeah, very good level
- 34:41Speaker 6: of rugby. Yeah, I think 12 teams in the competition
- 34:44Speaker 6: and everyone's pretty competitive and you're playing against Wallabies or
- 34:48Speaker 6: Super Rugby players most weeks.
- 34:50Speaker 4: So, yeah.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Would you say the Wallabies, results aside, haven't been favourable,
- 34:56Speaker 1: but would you say they're in a good place heading
- 34:58Speaker 1: into their World Cup year being held on home soil?
- 35:02Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:03Speaker 6: Yeah, they're building something nice. Yeah, they've got some quality
- 35:08Speaker 6: world-class players there at the moment, so... Yeah, but I
- 35:11Speaker 6: think it's going to be an interesting World Cup. Everyone's
- 35:14Speaker 6: looking good building into next year. So, yeah, but I think, yeah,
- 35:17Speaker 6: the Wallabies will be competitive.
- 35:20Speaker 1: And you get that text, come back to Southland. Of course,
- 35:23Speaker 1: Jack Taylor had his injury. But this is where the
- 35:26Speaker 1: script falls into place for you. This is where it
- 35:28Speaker 1: all started.
- 35:31Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sort of opportunities, like they present themselves when
- 35:35Speaker 6: you least expect them. So, yeah, you've got to be prepared.
- 35:38Speaker 6: to take them I guess and yeah I guess your
- 35:41Speaker 6: best abilities availability so made sure I was fit ready
- 35:44Speaker 6: to go and yeah pretty unfortunate for Jack and he
- 35:48Speaker 6: was still involved in the environment so he was really
- 35:50Speaker 6: good to learn off and yeah helped me a lot
- 35:53Speaker 6: in the environment because I'd never experienced being a full
- 35:57Speaker 6: time rugby player before so yeah he was really good
- 35:59Speaker 6: to learn off and yeah great group of guys and
- 36:03Speaker 6: coaches around me which helped as well so yeah Is.
- 36:07Speaker 1: There a good chance of the core of that group
- 36:09Speaker 1: being retained for next season, would you say, or is
- 36:11Speaker 1: it too early to predict?
- 36:14Speaker 6: I'd like to think so. We're building nicely throughout the year,
- 36:19Speaker 6: regardless of the results, I think. We were ticking some
- 36:22Speaker 6: boxes and a good step in the right direction for
- 36:25Speaker 6: Southland Rugby, I thought. There were some highs and lows,
- 36:29Speaker 6: but we had a couple of really good wins there
- 36:31Speaker 6: throughout the season and some close losses, but Yeah, a
- 36:34Speaker 6: young team, I think, 21 debutants throughout the year. So, yeah,
- 36:39Speaker 6: there's a big improvement to still happen, but, yeah, we're
- 36:44Speaker 6: going in the right direction, I think.
- 36:46Speaker 1: So describe the moment when you see yourself out on
- 36:48Speaker 1: Rugby Park, you're looking on the terraces and it's jam-packed.
- 36:51Speaker 1: That must have been the real moment that everything hit
- 36:54Speaker 1: home for you properly.
- 36:56Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, it was a dream come true, to
- 36:58Speaker 6: be honest. Yeah, pretty passionate about this province and... Yeah,
- 37:02Speaker 6: growing up here, standing on the terraces with a lunchbox
- 37:06Speaker 6: and supporting the boys and running out there on the
- 37:09Speaker 6: field was pretty awesome. So, yeah, still sort of pinching
- 37:12Speaker 6: myself that it's happened in the first place. And, yeah, just, yeah, really,
- 37:17Speaker 6: really awesome experience.
- 37:18Speaker 1: And it just goes to show how many more Jaden
- 37:20Speaker 1: Hedisons are out there in Southland as well, you know,
- 37:23Speaker 1: almost like a trailblazing moment.
- 37:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 37:27Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely there's some quality rugby players around at the moment. So, yeah,
- 37:32Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see who's involved in the coming years.
- 37:35Speaker 1: So how did you manage to get picked up in
- 37:37Speaker 1: the Crusaders environment?
- 37:40Speaker 6: There's a draft system that happens for the wider training group.
- 37:45Speaker 6: I'm not entirely sure how it works, but throughout the season,
- 37:49Speaker 6: I think each Super Rugby club can sort of pick
- 37:53Speaker 6: players and then it goes to a draft system at
- 37:56Speaker 6: the end of the year and they sort.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Of get a pick.
- 38:01Speaker 6: Goes in a rough order from my understanding I think
- 38:04Speaker 6: the Crusaders had a pick before the Highlanders and yeah
- 38:09Speaker 6: they obviously chose me which I was pretty wrapped about
- 38:13Speaker 6: and yeah I was very unexpected it was quite funny
- 38:16Speaker 6: I actually got a text from Jamie Joseph I had
- 38:18Speaker 6: been speaking to him previously and he sort of congratulated
- 38:23Speaker 6: me and wished me all the best up the road
- 38:24Speaker 6: so yeah, that's sort of how I found out. It
- 38:27Speaker 6: was very unexpected, and yeah, a few phone calls from
- 38:32Speaker 6: coaching staff at Crusader shortly after confirmed it, so yeah,
- 38:35Speaker 6: it was pretty awesome.
- 38:37Speaker 1: A bit bizarre, but surreal at the same time. JB Joseph,
- 38:40Speaker 1: the Highlanders coach, telling you that you're going to the Crusaders.
- 38:43Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:45Speaker 6: I'd sort of been in touch, and he was interested
- 38:48Speaker 6: in having me come to the Highlanders, but yeah, it was, yeah,
- 38:53Speaker 6: that's sort of how it panned out, really. They they
- 38:57Speaker 6: had the pick before the Crusaders did so yeah it
- 39:01Speaker 6: was a bit of a.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Surprise so Have you had to reassess your goals after
- 39:05Speaker 1: this season?
- 39:07Speaker 6: Yeah definitely yeah I never thought I'd be playing for
- 39:13Speaker 6: the Sags let alone playing Super Rugby this time at
- 39:17Speaker 6: the start of well this time last year so yeah
- 39:20Speaker 6: reassess the goals yeah obviously it's a big step up
- 39:24Speaker 6: and what I'm used to with rugby and training. So, yeah,
- 39:29Speaker 6: it's a big change. getting to do rugby as a job. Like,
- 39:32Speaker 6: I've never looked at it that way, but it's, yeah,
- 39:35Speaker 6: it's an awesome opportunity and something that I love to do.
- 39:38Speaker 3: So, yeah.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Well, it will be a full-time job for you effectively now,
- 39:42Speaker 1: won't it? Yeah, yeah.
- 39:44Speaker 6: A wee bit different to tailing lambs or drafting sheep,
- 39:47Speaker 6: or digging holes over in Sydney, so... Yeah.
- 39:50Speaker 1: But Ethan DeGroote did the same thing, the tailing run
- 39:53Speaker 1: around Riversdale, and he's gone pretty well. So all the
- 39:56Speaker 1: Southern lads, you know, you get a bit of a
- 39:57Speaker 1: grounding in rural work, and that gives you a bit
- 40:00Speaker 1: of backbone, to coin a phrase, I suppose, eh?
- 40:02Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it definitely does. It makes you appreciate having
- 40:07Speaker 6: the opportunity to go and do what you love and
- 40:11Speaker 6: playing rugby, so yeah.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Jaden. Thanks for the chat this afternoon. Congratulations.
- 40:17Speaker 1: You've had a hell of a year in the Stags jersey.
- 40:19Speaker 1: All the best up the road there, even if you
- 40:20Speaker 1: are going to be in Christchurch. But Southlanders are proud
- 40:23Speaker 1: of what you've achieved. Thanks for your time.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Thanks, Andy.
- 40:26Speaker 4: Cheers.
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- 40:40Speaker 1: asked the question, does your dog bite? The man replied, no, never.
- 40:45Speaker 1: So the neighbour bent down to pet the dog, but
- 40:47Speaker 1: immediately he got bitten. The neighbour shouted, you said your
- 40:51Speaker 1: dog doesn't bite. The man calmly replied, that's not my dog.
- 40:55Speaker 1: You're only human, but That is us done and dusted
- 40:59Speaker 1: for the afternoon. The podcast will be up shortly. Thanks
- 41:02Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio. I'm Andy Muir. The muster is proudly brought
- 41:05Speaker 1: to you by the team at Peters Genetics. Enjoy the afternoon.
- 41:09Speaker 1: See you tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
- 41:12Speaker 6: Hey, well, all right, sir.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Here we go there and what are they going to
- 41:14Speaker 1: get for? PGG writes and presents stock selling action once again.
- 41:18Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, so it's about Clutha's turn. Mark Calder's on
- 41:21Speaker 1: the line to give us a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, sir.
- 41:23Speaker 1: How do we go?
- 41:25Speaker 4: Yeah, g'day, Ron.
- 41:25Speaker 8: We went very good here at Belclutha today. It was
- 41:27Speaker 8: a reasonable yarding down here in a very strong market.
- 41:31Speaker 8: Things are going very well, still coming to the end
- 41:33Speaker 8: of the season. Big heavy prime lands, $ 300, $ 380. Your
- 41:38Speaker 8: good medium's still staying very strong at $ 250. And your stores,
- 41:42Speaker 8: your forward stores and your lighter end primes are $ 180
- 41:45Speaker 8: to $ 230. You're still going very well and holding your own.
- 41:48Speaker 8: Big heavy ewes, $ 280 to $ 320. $ 280. Your good medium's
- 41:52Speaker 8: still going very well, also at $ 2. 40 to $ 2.
- 41:54Speaker 3: 70.
- 41:54Speaker 8: And your hydrian girl's done a bit rough through the
- 41:57Speaker 8: winter and spring, with $ 1. 50 to $ 1.
- 41:58Speaker 4: 80.
- 41:58Speaker 8: A couple of lines of ewes and lambs at foot
- 42:01Speaker 8: in today at Barclutha. Lighter end ewes with some younger lambs.
- 42:05Speaker 4: They were $ 150.
- 42:05Speaker 8: And some nice heavy ewes with some nice black-faced tailed
- 42:10Speaker 8: lambs made $ 175. Very good lambs they were presented. Some rams,
- 42:14Speaker 8: got a few rams.
- 42:15Speaker 3: In here today.
- 42:16Speaker 8: They were $ 80 to $ 150. So, no, it was a
- 42:18Speaker 8: good day here at Barclutha.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Cheers.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Here's Pat to find him.