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Stock Market PSYOP, AI Bubble & China's Gold Secret · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: What happens when the same stock market mania that showed up right before the last two crashes is now holding up the very market where your life savings sit, except this time, it's all about AI. And why at this exact moment is China quietly buying more physical gold than it has in decades while your financial advisor tells you to stay the course, stocks and bonds? My guest today is Micah Haynes. He's an expert in financial markets and precious metals with Noble Gold. He's spent years tracking exactly this, where the manipulation's happening and where the real money is actually going.
• 0:53
  Now here's what most people missed. The BIS, which is the Bank for International Settlements, the bank for the world's central banks, just warned that today's stock market is riskier than 2008, riskier than the .com crash, And that warning barely made the news. Think about it. Millions of Americans stopped blindly trusting their doctors after COVID, but we still walk into a financial adviser's office and hand over everything we've saved, oftentimes without asking a single hard question. It's the same system, just wearing a different hat.
• 1:27
  Now fair warning, this isn't a light conversation. This is one for people who really want to understand what's happening with their money. It's very technical. Mike and I go into, you know, deep into the mechanics of it, the stuff that most shows just skip over. And by the end, this becomes much more than just the markets.
• 1:45
  It's about whether everything that you've spent your life building is actually protected or just sitting exposed waiting for the next crash? And if so, if it was designed for that purpose. Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. On this show, we talk to real Americans with real solutions.
• 2:09
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• 2:30
  If if you'd rather listen, just use your favorite app podcast app, search for Man in America. If you're on Apple Podcasts, a quick review really helps us to reach more people. Alright. Let's get into this discussion now with Micah Haynes. Micah, man, it's good to have you back on the show.
• 2:45
  I always enjoy our conversation, so thanks for being here with us today.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Seth, for having me back. It's been a little while, I think. So always a pleasure to be back.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep. So we're gonna talk a of things, mostly markets and metals related. But I think the the the bigger picture that I'd like to understand is just what's happening. Right?
• 3:09
  Because we saw last year second half of last year, we saw just this roller coaster, this skyrocketing. You know, we saw silver approaching $1.20, gold well over 5,000. Heading into the New Year, great. Every day was an exciting new thing, but then we saw that sharp draw you know, pullback. And it seems like from my limited kinda understanding of charts and everything that silver kind of it found and it established a really solid floor, in kind of the high fifties around 60.
• 3:40
  And it and it seemed like it was a pretty big deal that it didn't drop below that. Right? The fact that it held at around that spot, you know, say mid fifties. And then now we're seeing you know, I'll pull up just a quick, you know, price chart. Right?
• 3:54
  So here we are looking at this is just the last five days. We'll look at the last month. So, you know, here we are. Yeah. We're up, you know, about 13% just within the last month.
• 4:06
  You know, we're you know, we were down in the, you know, mid to high fifties, 57, 58, but even then, we dropped down into, say, 56 or so, right, back in mid July. And just in the past week or so, week and a half, we're seeing a a a sharp climb. Right? Whereas as today, you know, we're recording on Wednesday. I think we're publishing this Thursday night.
• 4:26
  So you'll be watching this Thursday. You know, we're we're approaching approaching 70. Right? We're getting up into sixty, sixty seven territory. And a lot of people that I follow and that I trust have basically been kind of saying this is exactly what they want to happen with precious metals, and that they're in a lot of people even Citi actual Politburo, even Citibank, has kinda doubled down.
• 4:54
  Even though when silver was dropping, a lot of people were saying, oh, yeah. Silver's going back down. You guys are a bunch of idiots. It's going back down to 20 or 30. Even amidst that big pullback, and this was just published a couple days ago, you know, Citibank is still saying that they expect it surge silver silver to surge to 90.
• 5:11
  Right? And we know that, you know, banks like this are typically very conservative. So how do you I know you're way more knowledgeable about charts and what's going on. So what's your take on the situation right now?
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And thanks. You covered it really well, and it has been an absolute whirlwind. I'll, kinda step back to this time last summer. Silver was $30, which was awesome.
• 5:37
  Dollars 30 at the time was like we were over we were out of the twenties. It felt pretty good. You know, obviously, the all time high at that point was still $50 And I'd been telling people like, hey, I think, you know, we have what it takes to get to $60 maybe $70 within the next year. I was saying that last summer and people were going, Oh, wow, that'd be fantastic. Well, we're here, right?
• 6:00
  We are here. What happened was none of us knew that we'd go from 30 to 120 in like five months, right? The price would literally quadruple like crazy, and hit an absolute crazy high that no one expected to have to then give some of that up in a normal way that you'd expect by letting off steam and having to retest breakout levels and things like that. And we'll get into the technical line, you know, the support and resistance and things like that that I see. But you're right.
• 6:32
  I mean, if I had just said to people last summer, which I was, this time next year, you could expect to see $60 $70 silver, and they're like, wow, are you kidding me? I could double my money in the year. They're very happy. They're very happy.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: And the people who bought
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: the year prior in the 20s, they've tripled their accounts, not just doubled their accounts. That's in like two years. So from here, I suspect that this time next year, we probably have a natural floor of about a 100, nineties low, but coming from a bank like you say is actually pretty conservative and that bodes well. And then I think it's even higher beyond that. But the proclivity of silver to basically be like an absolute bottle rocket, it's a tiny market, it's extremely volatile, it's super thin, so when you have a lot of attention and capital flowing into it, it goes further, faster than anyone can possibly imagine.
• 7:28
  And so 120 is going to be nothing compared to where we're going. It is the all time high now, much higher than what anyone thought possible, but of course, going from 120 back to 55 or 54, maybe it was 53.75 technically or something around there, It definitely hurts if you bought in the hundreds, it hurts to have it go down there. In these kind of blow off top kind of FOMO types of moments, we both heard, and we were talking about on this channel, that silver has even higher than that to go, right? And silver has all other fundamental reasons to do even better in the coming years, and it will. But at that time in January, it could never go down, right?
• 8:10
  It could never go down. You know, the shorts were done, the banks were done, the manipulation was done, all this stuff that I, you know, obviously believed in too, to some degree, but like any market, you have to ebb and flow, you have to go up and down. It's a natural part of any market, especially a bull market, to have these corrections or these kind of inter bull market consolidated periods. And what I think is, you know, last week or the week before, getting back to that 50 zone, it was, Oh my gosh, it's going back to 30. Oh my gosh, it's going back to 40.
• 8:45
  And it's kind
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: of the opposite of what
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: we had in January, where it can't go down, it's never going to go down. Now it's, Oh, it's got to go lower, it's never going to go back up. And that big sentiment indicator is big for me as a contrarian. I actually read a lot into sentiment, but I read a lot into seasonality as well, and I've been doing this as an investor for over ten years. I've been doing this here professionally at Noble Gold guiding people into physical metals for six.
• 9:11
  And the summer is always, if you look at fifty years of price action and price data, June and July often are the worst months of the year for precious metals prices. Now, it's one of the best times to buy, but it's one of the worst times to sell if you need to and if you need the cash. But the accumulation that we saw from existing clients that have been with me for years and had gone through this natural seasonality, we actually had a pretty busy summer because everyone's saying, Oh yeah, I remember metal suck in June and July, and then they rip out of here and go through the fall, we almost always, and I actually can't think of really any exception since I've been here, since I've been investing, we always have a pretty decent fall. So the worst seasonality is the summer, we always have a nice little fall rally. I think this year won't be an exception, especially with the election coming up and a whole bunch of big global macro geopolitical things still going on in the background.
• 10:10
  And so, like you said last week, $55, $56, I actually made another buy there at 56.70, it's 56.80. Six trading days later, it's $65 right? It's bounced out of there. Now, it's a number of factors. Natural seasonality, where it's normally weak, is over.
• 10:30
  We're coming into a nice rally season. Two, we ended up retesting that 54 level, which was the technical resistance. Going back to the fall, happened is it went from 30 in August to 54 in October, then it pulled back into the mid-40s. And everyone thought, Okay, that's it. We're making a new all time high, but it's barely higher than the fiftieth mark.
• 10:55
  It's 54. Then we're going to come back down to about 48, but then it cracked through 54 and really went off and off to the races at that point. So 54 was a level that had not been tested at all since early November, since we broke out of it. And we went from $54 to $120 in what, twelve weeks, ten weeks? And all of those $10 gaps, there's $50 for $54 and $60 and $70 and $80 and $90 and $100 and $110 those all had to be backfilled and retested as well, which is again a normal constructive thing to see when you break through a ceiling, want to come back and test it as a floor.
• 11:36
  Then you break through the next ceiling and you retest that as a floor. Well, we had this huge gap in the chart, and not to say that a 30% drop in a single day, but I remember that first Friday, I think, maybe it was the second interview we did together at the end of January, but it was that Friday that it crashed from $120 to $85 in one morning. It was what, a sigma six event? Like one of the most unnatural events that could possibly occur. And of course, was a bunch of paper selling, not physical selling that was happening to push that down.
• 12:09
  But you had a really big gap fill there. And we spent, you know, the last six months churning in the mid 70s for the longest time, and then the mid 60s for the longest time, and then the last little bit spent in the mid 50s consolidating there and retesting those final gaps. So, the technical retest has been accomplished. The seasonality on top of the technical retest and the consolidation is now over. The fundamentals haven't changed from the, you know, silver at 200, 300, 400, 500 is possible.
• 12:42
  Actually not possible, but likely. Fundamentals have only gotten better for the metal since January. And now we have all these big things going on with the Fed being trapped. They can't raise rates, they can't cut rates, inflation's back on the rise, job numbers are going down. You've got the yen carry trade that's unwinding and causing instability in the bond market and soon the stock market.
• 13:06
  Yeah, the stock market's at all time highs, but, you know, that's kind of a political, you know, that's a theater right now and just keeping it propped up going into the election, which we have, which is another thing in the backdrop. You've got a RIN, a high oil price and all this stuff. So the setup is still amazingly positive and enthusiastic from precious metals holders and for metals prices. But we have to, you know, go through these ebbs and flows. But I think we're finally through the worst of it.
• 13:32
  And I'm very excited about how things are shaping up only being a few, you know, not even with that. Not even two weeks into August. It's looking good.
• 13:40
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• 15:35
  It was, or sigma six, however however you say that. But, basically, it was extremely un unlikely. You said that it wasn't natural. But I and I think that that's actually the key, is that it wasn't natural. And and I, you know, I like to like, I I'm not a guy that's into the stock market.
• 15:53
  I don't like, you know, kind of following just the mainstream things because I've just I've done so much research beyond kind of the the the normal narrative that we're told and looking at, okay, what are the things that are truly driving what's going on here? And I I wanna kinda throw out a little bit of a speculation here. I'd love to hear your feedback on this. That what we saw okay. So, basically, since the seventies, when they in in into the eighties, when they set up the LBMA.
• 16:25
  Right? When they established because, know, after Nixon pulled gold off the, the Dorothy Gold Standard, then gold and silver, you know, kinda shot through the roof over the next decade or so because gold and silver, like many other commodities, were representative of the devaluation of the dollar. And so it's like, okay. They pulled the gold. They pulled the dollar at the gold standard.
• 16:46
  They start printing a bunch more dollars, but silver and gold were still ref this kinda carrying the coal mine, this reflection of inflation. Right? So if if they if they wanted to quadruple the money supply in ten years, you probably would have saw silver and gold double or triple or quadrupling in the price because they were just a direct reflection of money supply. Right? And so you think, oh, wow.
• 17:07
  Is you know, what happens if silver is a thousand dollars? Silver's worth so much money, or is it that the dollar's worth that little? Right? And I think it's much more the latter. So, obviously, they've established the LBMA, which then introduces this incredibly effective tool at manipulating the prices, which is the paper markets, right, where they can say, oh, well, you know, let's, you know, buy the ETFs or buy paper gold, paper silver.
• 17:30
  And as, you know, we both know, there's it's, you know, what, $3.50 to one or something like that for silver paper silver to to real silver per ounce. Yep. And so what I suspect is that they they've used that mechanism for for decades to keep the price under control while they continued just to buy up, continuing to buy up gold and silver, especially gold. Right? I mean, you get into, like, the the family offices, the the sovereign banks, the, central banks, etcetera.
• 17:58
  We saw that there are mass accumulation of gold, especially in the last decade or so. And so what I suspect is that as we kinda came into this time last year, we started to see silver and gold both beginning to break out. We saw a lot of the mechanisms that have always been used to suppress the precious metals pricing. Those mechanisms started failing. And I think that the one of the biggest indicators that they were failing was when we were seeing earlier this year that people were now waiting on a four, six, eight week delivery time on when they, you know, they have their paper, and they say, okay.
• 18:38
  I've got a 100 ounces of gold on paper. I want those 100 ounces of gold. And instead of a couple of days, it's now three, four, five weeks. That that kills the illusion. Right?
• 18:47
  Because the paper game is an illusion, and it's tricked most people that are into investing. Right? Because they're thinking, oh, okay. Well, I you know, paper gold's a lot better than the physical gold because I can get in and out quickly and, you know, everything. However, if something happens, you're not holding it in your hand.
• 19:04
  And so my kind of theory is that they that system of price manipulation started breaking down, especially because you had the difference with the with the the Shanghai market. You had China also working, I think, to help to help break that system. The AI Chinese guy, I I I think there's a good chance that was coming from the Chinese government as a way to try to break the the paper system in the West. Sure. Just to you know, again, these are my theories, my my conspiracy theories.
• 19:36
  And so
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that what happened was, like, that drop that we saw, that one day drop, that, correctly, it wasn't natural, that it was a man it was an intentional kind of hit. And so I think, you know, we saw the metals prices kinda going up, up, up, up. The banks were like, they're holding too many short positions. They can't have this. They hadn't really bought what they wanted to yet, so they pulled out all the stops to unnaturally smash the price back down and bring it down as far as they could.
• 20:05
  But we've been seeing that they've been accumulating precious metals nonstop. Like, they they to them, this is a buyer's market of all buyer's markets if you look at their buying activity. So I think that they pulled all the stops to just destroy the price as much as they could, you know, heading into second quarter of this year. And then now where we are now, I feel like that what's happening is we're starting to see all of the effort and energy they use to kinda try to stamp it back down. They're now running out of that energy.
• 20:35
  They're now running out of those mechanisms. You've got China, which is now greatly limiting access to paper gold, you know, and which which I wanna hear you through your thoughts on that. And so I feel like that kind of coinciding with what you're saying is that I think that we're on the on the the on the cusp of another giant rally, right, as this all breaks down because they couldn't contain it. Right? It's it's like you're trying to keep the the lid on on the pot and and, like, the lobster's trying to get out.
• 21:08
  And it's but now there's, like, 10 lobsters, and they got really big, and they're they're punching through the lid. They're climbing out after you. Right? They were they were pissed off. So, anyway, so that's, you know, kind of looking at again, just the the big, big picture of of banks and manipulation.
• 21:22
  That's kind of what I think is happening. But, again, that might at least be some wild conspiracy theory. What what do you think?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I think think you've really done a good job of kind of assessing all the various places that they have and can and the incentives for keeping a lid on price and and how they've done it. You you mentioned, you know, 375 ounces of silver that they trade on paper for every one ounce of silver that they actually have in the LBMA vault or the COMEX vault. So think about that. If I can sell my house 380 times in thirty seconds on the market to crash my neighborhood's house prices, I shouldn't be able to do that. I can only sell something once that I only own one of.
• 22:05
  Right? So
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it's Exactly.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: A very finite market. So you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: can Well, it's almost a 400. If you look at a US debt clock, it's $3.98.87 to one is that ratio, and gold is basically one fifty to one.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yep. And so the idea that you can sell 400 of something that you only own one of is ridiculous. I think when we were on that show that one day that it had crashed, and I remember being like, oh, god, how am I gonna do a podcast today? Like, I was watching the screen, you know, what the heck are we gonna do? But it was something like two thirds or three quarters of a year's worth of mining supply traded in a single hour.
• 22:42
  So 800,000,000 ounces of silver come out of the ground every year. There are much better professionals in this space that track eligible inventories and what the actual underlying ounces in the vaults at the Albumin and the Comex are, I don't know what they are, but I think they're 400 or 500,000,000 ounces. So, they sold as much metal in an hour that they would mine in about half of a year that they have in the entirety of the COMEX fault. And we know that that didn't actually trade hands. They didn't actually sell their entire inventories.
• 23:18
  If they did, we would have real price discovery and the price would have done the opposite. It would have done the complete opposite. If there's no more metal in the commodity exchanges in the world, you know, the price on silver's, you know, some ridiculously high number, I'm actually probably, you know, I don't even want to guess what that could be. But you're right, price discovery will occur. I think one of the biggest things, and you mentioned this, is the banks and the banks short positions too.
• 23:41
  We've been talking, like we, the precious metals community, been talking for years about how short the banks are, they have these record short positions. And there's all these like, okay, well, anything over $35, any dollar that silver goes up by over $35 is like a billion in losses for the banks. Well, you know, we were saying that and it went from 35 to 45 to 55 to 65. I didn't see any banks blow up, but they still had these shorts on, these huge shorts. And the whole idea that there was just some number that would blow up the banking system, kill the banks, kill the record shorts, kill the institutional shorts, and then silver would go to its natural price because there's no one holding it back anymore.
• 24:24
  That never happened, but silver did go from 50 to 120 in, what, twelve weeks. And I think a lot of that was the short squeeze. People who are losing money on their short positions because the price is rising so much, so they themselves are buying the metal and going long to try to nullify the losses on their short book. And that phenomenon of a short squeeze actually kind of accelerates and is an accelerant for fast moving prices. And I think we can still see some short squeezes still moving forward.
• 24:56
  But the idea was that it got all the way to 120 without them being able to get it down, and then I think they pulled out the nuke of all nukes to get price back down to where the banks could finally exit their shorts at either a breakeven or a small loss. No one's making any money on that, but they were able to do that. Now, since price got down to, what, dollars 39.50 in gold from $5,500 so it dropped by about 28%, dollars 120 in silver to $55 in silver or 54 or 50 whatever, it's near 55% drawdown, 60% drawdown, shorts have been covered. We know that they're still around, but they've been covered to the extent that they have. And like you said, all the institutional buying, it's almost as if it was kind of a nod and a hat tip, go ahead and nuke the price of gold and silver so that we can come in and scoop it up in Q1, Q2, Q3.
• 25:52
  China bought more in Q1 by two or three times than it did in all of 2025. So the first quarter of twenty twenty six, it bought more than it did double it of all of last year. And then in Q2, they bought two or three times more than they did in Q1. So they've accumulated record levels of gold. And you mentioned this as well, China now is also going in the direction of eliminating the possibility of suppressing price through paper speculation and paper leverage.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: have increased requirements and capital requirements for traders to trade paper gold. Want but they're encouraging their citizenry and the people to buy physical gold.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So, Rupl, just to clarify a little bit because I know that sometimes when you say paper gold or paper silver, and I say it all the time too in thinking that, oh, yeah. I know what it means and most people do know it means, but I think not everyone would know because it's it's it took me a little time to kind of figure it out. But, basically, I I want you to understand explain it in my kinda simpleton way of looking at it. Basically, it's right. So right here, this is a, you know, a 10 ounce bar of silver.
• 26:58
  I've always got sitting here on my on my desk because my and I've I've my old, you know, silver dollar as well. Got the it's kind of floating around. Could play with them while I'm doing videos and stuff. Right?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But, basically, in essence, let's just say that right here. Say this is an ounce of gold. Right? That so you could say you go to a bank, you say, look.
• 27:15
  Wanna buy one ounce of gold and say, okay. Here's one ounce of gold. It's $60. Okay? Here's $60.
• 27:20
  But they can also say, well, you can also buy paper silver. Right? So you could say, yeah. You could buy and say that that you know, say the the bank has one of these. For every one of these they're holding, they're selling 400 paper silvers.
• 27:34
  Right? So 400 people all have the same piece of paper that says, I own one ounce of silver. Now the advantage of paper silver is it's easy to liquidate. It's the same thing as selling a stock. You go into your Schwab account.
• 27:46
  You can very go move in and out very quickly. So there are advantages to it. But it's again, it's it's have to approach it the same mentality as buying, you know, SpaceX stock or something. You don't look at the mentality that I look at buying precious metals, which is like, I want this thing in my hand buried in my backyard if I need to. Right?
• 28:04
  So the idea with that, the paper, is that they can then just you know, if they wanna suppress the price, well, they they go, okay. Well, we're gonna issue 500 papers for that one ounce. Right? So they they can basically they can really screw with the supply and demand by they can they can just print supply, right, which obviously then lowers demand. Right?
• 28:24
  As your supply goes up, then, you know, you have you have too much supply to meet to meet the demands, the price comes down. And so China, if I understand correctly that so China, which we saw a lot of the price action happening earlier this year, I think was directly tied to what China was doing and where we saw that separation of the pricing on the COMEX, the pricing in, like, the western markets versus the pricing on the Shanghai gold exchange. Right? So you saw that, oh my goodness. Like, silver's worth 15% more over in China, versus here and or versus in the West.
• 29:01
  And so it was apparent that there was some sort of financial kind of war going on between the West and China specifically. And then so but then what we saw recently, you mentioned with Paper Gold, if I understand correctly, bay basically, what they've done is they've said, okay. If you're an average investor or even a a pretty decent sized investor, but you're not like a giant investor, For anybody that's not like a giant investor with huge amounts of capital, we're you're no longer allowed to buy paper gold. Right? So now
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It's forcing people into physical gold if they wanna be in it. But simultaneously right? Here's an article. This is from, a week and a half or so ago, that China's gold reserves rise by the most since October 2023 as the buying pace quickens. So you're simultaneously saying China's really key with this, but you're seeing that they're stopping most people in that country from being able to invest in paper gold.
• 29:58
  Yet the China itself, they're on this buying spree. Like, they're rushing, you know, to to buy insane amounts of gold. And so which makes you think that they it's not just Zib. A lot of the other central banks are doing the same thing. It's like, I think they can see that, like, this whole ploy is running out.
• 30:22
  Right? Like, the curtain, you know, like, the curtain in front of the the Wizard of Oz is, like, almost pulled all the way over, and you're gonna see through it. Right?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I I I totally agree. And, yes, I would so a couple things is the direction is clear. Like, you know, where are things going? You want to invest kind of looking at where the puck is going, you know, the old Wayne Gretzky code of like going where the puck is You know, you want to be where the puck is going, not where it is. So if look you at all the signs, I'm going to rattle off a few things here in just a sec, but all the signs point to the emphasis of the future of the global economy in the future will revolve around physical gold and physical settlement in gold.
• 31:07
  Physical gold is irreplaceable. In many cases, silver too is irreplaceable. It's the most strategic commodity in a lot of different industrial applications, but it's a monetary metal as well. And the whole paper gold versus physical gold, and it's like, yeah, if I'm a trader and I just want to have exposure to the price action for a month because I think there's going to be a month rally and I don't want to actually buy the physical and store it, keep it on me and then go back to where I need to sell it back again and do that. If you just want to be in and out of a financial instrument, right, which of course, with financial instruments, you have financial engineering, then yeah, you know, for some people, a little paper, gold or silver position makes sense.
• 31:52
  But for investment purposes, like the actual physical commodity is what everybody wants. The whole world is shifting back to, you know, physical commodities and physical things and strategic natural resources are what the world will revolve around. And, you know, we could talk about other important physical items like, you know, you don't want to the paper representation of a gun doesn't help you when you actually need a gun. You need an actual gun or whatever the tool you want to talk about. But if we actually have a financial crisis or a currency crisis or a situation where the grid goes down for a month and the electrical system is cyber attacked by Russia or China, you need physical gold and silver in your hands.
• 32:42
  You don't want paper gold. They don't power these missiles with paper silver. You don't have paper silver in a solar panel. It's physical metal. You need the actual commodity.
• 32:56
  So, the world is shifting towards this, and China is the best example. And that's going to watch again the direction of where they're going. Obviously, they're our biggest adversary potentially or the biggest threat to US global dominance. China's a superpower, this is a very unpopular opinion, but I'll share it anyway. I think we are all worse for being part of a democracy because every four years, the weather vane changes directions and our strategic goals as a country are constantly being shifted from pro business to pro socialism or whatever.
• 33:31
  And every four years, we're kind of resetting the agenda. We're just going in a circle. Whereas China looks at benign dictatorship or benign or not, that's probably an argument that you may have. They look out one hundred years, what do we need to do between here and there to become a global superpower? And they're just boom boom boom boom boom, they're doing it all, right?
• 33:51
  They're acquiring all the rare earth deposits. Russia has been doing this with uranium deposits and uranium enrichment capacity. We're screwed in this game of risk, the pieces to be had and to win and to fight over are all strategic, physical, natural resources and commodities. But to list a few things, China has now been buying physical gold for record levels for twenty one consecutive months. They added 10 tons alone in July.
• 34:27
  They have the second most physical gold of any country in the world. We have 8,100 tons, allegedly. They're nearing 2,500, but truth be told, have way more than that. And they're waiting for that kind of key moment to pull back the curtain and the Wizard of Oz and show that they probably have ten, twenty plus tons of gold. But they're losing away
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: from Right. Ten, twenty thousand.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry. 10,000. Right now, they have 2,500. We have 8,100. Right?
• 34:57
  So they probably have 10 or 20,000 tons. They bought 10 tons just in July, like I said. So, you know, this race is like an arms race, but it's a physical gold race. But they're also doing other things like limiting the ability of people to trade paper, forcing them into the physical market. There's more retail ownership, setting up their citizens the right way.
• 35:17
  But they're building physical gold infrastructure too in Singapore and in Hong Kong and in Shanghai. They've got all these huge vaulting networks that are now meant to settle trade in yuan or gold. China's moved away from collateralizing treasuries, which forever is what they used to do. They'd say, Okay, some African country has $500,000,000 in treasuries. We will collateralize that 500,000,000,000 or 500,000,000 and give them a loan in Yuan to develop a mining road or a ring road or whatever electrical infrastructure that they need, and they take ownership and percentages in that.
• 35:55
  And that again ties into how they've been able to get all these natural resource commodity rich countries, and they're getting there before we are. Belt and road. Exactly. And they've been doing that by collateralizing treasuries. They're no longer doing that.
• 36:08
  They're collateralizing gold holdings and giving them loans in yuan, which is actually going to create a lot of demand for yuan and strengthen the yuan over time as well. And then add to that, they're just working on all these other strategic settlements where you can settle trades or oil purchases or whatever in yuan rather than in US dollars, which we know with the BRICS and everything else has been going on for a very long time. So, you know, all of these things in combination point toward a world where physical ownership is 100% the most important thing. So as individual investors, we should be looking at that and saying, Oh crap, what do I have in my portfolio? Oh, I got stocks, they're in a huge bubble.
• 36:51
  Most risky market we've ever seen in stocks in forever, and we can talk about this in a little bit, but the Bank of International Settlements issued a warning about a month ago saying it is the scariest market as far as the leverage behind it goes. Worse than housing in 'six, worse than the.com in 2000. And the Bank of International Settlements is considered the central bank for central banks. They don't issue warnings lightly and they definitely don't sensationalize. So, if they're saying this is the riskiest stock market with the most leverage behind it that we've ever seen, take that as a pretty good sign that stocks are in very frothy bubble territory.
• 37:34
  And that's not a good timing indicator. It doesn't mean it can't keep going this way for a couple of years. But my guess is beyond midterms, you know, a massive stock market crash, worse than anything we've ever seen and kind of a combination of all of them is very likely. And I'd say maybe we have a year or so, maybe less.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The the it's like you can't talk about these things without addressing that. Right? Because what's also sucking a lot of capital out of precious metals, especially at the retail level. Right?
• 38:03
  It's you'll you'll see you don't see these big sovereign banks investing in the stock market. You don't see, you know, China, you know, their own central bank is not, you know, kind of loading up on SpaceX stocks. Right? It's kind of the opposite.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Emotional yeah. They're not emotional FOMO traders. You know? They are They are strictly looking after their future, either the strength of their financial institutions, the financial future of their citizens, of their currencies. They are big time institutional investment bodies that are not very price sensitive at all.
• 38:42
  They've been using this dip in gold and silver to buy a whole bunch. But yeah, I think it's the opposite with Main Street. You end up having people go, Oh, geez, you know, SpaceX IPO. And last I checked, I thought it was down a whole bunch. And there's some analysts saying that actually, when these big IPOs happen, often they kind of ring a bell and mark the top for the actual secular bull market in And that's what happened in 2000.
• 39:05
  And here's the thing, it's like most people's portfolios are 60% stocks and 40% bonds or seventythirty, whatever your risk tolerance is, and your financial advisor, and I think one of the worst pieces of advice you can ever get, nothing against financial advisors, you know, they mostly are well intentioned, but they're just conventional thinkers and mainstream thinkers, which probably the biggest problem with all of it, they'll tell you, Oh, yeah, the market might crash. Yeah, sure, sure. It'll always come back, right? It'll always come back. Yeah, sure.
• 39:33
  Maybe on a longer timeframe, there are historical precedents for markets that crash by a lot and take a really long time to get back to break even. So, 2000, the NASDAQ crashed by 85%, the .com bubble. 85% crashed and it took until 2013 to break even. That was thirteen years of being in the red if you owned the NASDAQ. The Nikkei in Japan had the most expensive real estate in the 1980s, and they also had the most expensive stock market in the world in the 1980s.
• 40:07
  And actually, it sounds pretty familiar because that's us right now, the most expensive stock market and real estate in the world. And when the Nikkei or version of the S and P 500 crashed in 1989 by 80% or 85% again, it took until 2019 to break even. And I was born in 1989. So I was turning 30 in 2019. So, thirty years to get back to break even.
• 40:34
  So I think if we see all of these risks and these bubbles and the circular financing and all this stuff behind the AI, and again, not a good timing indicator, but if and sorry, not a matter of if, but when it crashes, it's going to be big. It's going to be bigger than either of those two examples likely, which means that, can you afford to have a 50% to 80% drawdown in your stock portfolio at the age of 50, 60, 70, maybe even 80 when you could be looking at five, ten, twenty plus years to break get back to breakeven.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And I think I think there's an important point I wanna make really quickly that that you that kinda ties into what you mentioned there is that for you know, I would say that the the the people that are watching this show are very, very awake people in in many ways. Right? And and I, and I I applaud them. I I I'm very grateful for the audience. I see in the comments, It's really, really intelligent conversations.
• 41:27
  Now but if you look at there's a lot of people that they don't trust the system. Right? And I think COVID, I think, broke it for a lot of people where they're like, okay. I can no longer trust the government. I can no longer trust my doctor.
• 41:39
  I can no longer trust, you know, the the media, of course. Right? Some people knew it before then. But I think if you look at it, take a step back, it's like, okay. What is this?
• 41:48
  What is this symptom? It's like, well, there's a system. Right? Whatever you call it, the cabal, what you know, the elites. There's a system.
• 41:54
  That system, the same system that educates us, you know, to be factory workers and to, you know, shut up and raise your hand and, you know, the same system that has conditioned us to become what we are today, right, which is a much, much weaker version of, like, what it means to be human, what it means to be an American. Right? Agreed. That same system is designed to keep us poor, to keep us distracted, to keep us busy scraping by so we never go so we never realize it's the system, so we never fight back against the system. And I think there's a lot of people that especially now, they will they would never walk into their doctor's office and say, hey.
• 42:31
  I'm worried about getting the flu. Can I get that new mRNA thing that you shove my arm? They'd be like, there's no way I'm doing that because I know that doctor is being paid by big pharma and everything. However, a lot of those same people will still walk into their TD advisor, to their Vanguard advisor, and they'll say, so where should I put my money at? And they're gonna say, hey.
• 42:51
  We should put into these stocks and these bonds. They're never gonna tell you that you should be investing in precious metals. They're never gonna do telling you that you should be, hey, Seth. Pull yourself out of out of your stock portfolio. Go buy some land.
• 43:03
  You know what mean? It it'd be the equivalent of you going to your mainstream doctor and him saying, you know what? Instead of that new mRNA shot, I think we should give you some turmeric and some oregano oil to help boost your immune system. Right?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: My, my thing on this is you never go to a Ford dealer asking them what Chevy you should
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: buy. Yes.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, what are you what? What? Are you insane? You know? What do you mean?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You don't go to your your financial adviser asking him, you know, what what's the best way to protect yourself and what's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: coming in. But in the same way that the doctors are trained by the medical schools, are owned by the big pharmaceutical companies, It's like, do you think that the same thing isn't happening in finance that your CPA or your, you know, your vet investment adviser, they're going to the same version of the schools that the doctors are going to? And their schools teach them how to make sure that people keep their wealth into a system that the elites have complete control over. And so when they wanna flip the switch, when they wanna collapse the market, when they wanna do that, they can they come, they reset it, they shake everything up. All of sudden, net worth is now 10¢ on the dollar from what it was a year ago, and they are scooping everything up.
• 44:14
  And so I think it's just just an important point for people that have a lot of money sitting in the stock market.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And the architecture of the things that happen, right, like with COVID and, you know, Microsoft or whatever filing petitions or sorry, patents for, you know, data collection and essentially, talked about this on another you know, the essentially, the technology that would be behind a social credit score that was
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: filed the Microsoft's patent is patent 060606. Exactly. It's it's the patent for basically mining crypto off of the human body's, energy production. Right? It's a very, like, matrix sassy dystopian thing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: For sure. And and big and, you know, government institutions and central banks and big finance and big media and big this, and they're they're all kind of in on what they're working on, what the kind of sequential series of events is going to be that leads to a final boom, bust, crisis, whatever, and they already know what's coming on the other side of that, right? COVID, we want to vaccinate everybody. They engineered it. Total fabricated event, total bullshit disease, too.
• 45:20
  The thing that they screwed up was they didn't get it right. They didn't actually make one that was bad enough to scare enough
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: people But to get it
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: so with this, it's like, well, what do they want on the other side of this? Social credit scores, digital currencies, total control, tokenization. Tokenization. Well, to get there, they have to create some kind of absolutely massive financial crisis. We've already got the makings of it with the BIS's warning.
• 45:45
  It's like, hey, the tinder is there, the wood is dry, it's been piled up, the fire is going, I doused it with gas. What's the spark? So, you know, it'll come, it could be soon, you know, and not to say it's going to be like tomorrow or next month. So, I'm not like, fear mongering here, but you want to be prepared like six months early then rather than two seconds too late.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So, the point of getting into this is the stock market is the risk it's ever been. Sure, everyone's still making money, but you won't You know, you're not gonna get advanced notice before the, you know, the the match gets struck.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: The only way that it's noticed is if you watch what the elites are doing, and they're they're pulling all the money on the stock market. You know, Buffett's sitting on the on his largest cash position, I think, in history. Right? The bank the the sovereign bank, central banks, they're they're dumping treasuries. They're they're getting out of paper.
• 46:36
  They're getting in the physical. Like so the, you know, the the writing is on the wall.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And dumping bonds the bond market's another big thing. Right? So 60% stock, 40% bonds. The bond market is crazy, too, and we've seen these interventions with the Japanese Yen.
• 46:54
  The US hasn't had to do this for twenty eight years. We sold Euros to buy the Yen so that we can strengthen the Yen so that it doesn't continue to drop and become weaker because if it gets any weaker, they're going to sell all their Treasuries to essentially support their currency. If they sell their currency, their Treasuries, it just means they sell bonds, the bond price goes down, but that means that the bond yield goes up. Well, bond yields control debt instruments and credit facilities and commercial debt in the entire economy. So, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, everything is based on that.
• 47:29
  And it's already pretty high. We just had the ten year, the twenty year, the thirty year, they all have had major rises in the yield that are at twenty year highs, thirty year highs, which means that it's factoring in massive inflation years from now. Not to get too complex with all this, but the bond market's in a lot of trouble. We wouldn't have intervened in the yen and tried to prevent the yen carry trade, and I'm sorry, that's what a lot of other people have been talking about these last few weeks since the FOMC meeting at the end of last month. A big important concept too, but we don't have to get into it.
• 48:02
  But all these little things combined, it means like we have the riskiest bond market of all time, the riskiest stock market of all time. And what are every single one of your portfolios made of? Your four zero one, your IRA, it's all that conventional sixtyforty model, which for the last forty years has worked pretty well. But I'm not investing for the next forty years by looking in the rearview mirror. You've got to look at where the road is going and where the signals are leading to, which is all these things that the East has been doing and that we're seeing in broad daylight happen.
• 48:37
  It's like it shouldn't be ignored by us. So, obviously, I'm already prepared the best that I can be. I think you are too. You've made all the things, all the changes and all the preparations to your portfolio and what you invest in, how you protect your net worth. But I think a lot of people are still extremely underprepared, very underprepared.
• 48:58
  Gold ownership, and this is in American portfolios, and this includes physical gold, ETFs, mining companies, everything precious metals related altogether is about half of 1%. That's crazy. While set while 70% is in stock, which is the highest concentration of all time.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: By design. By design. Right? Yes. I I think that, like, the the one last you know, we're not like, there's always it's kind of there's always more, but one of the last kind of components of my own kind of preparedness, you know, stock up is I've I've been kinda looking for, a nineteen eighties, you know, vehicle that I can buy.
• 49:31
  Something that, you know, is gonna be E and P hardened. I was just looking at there's, like, they did a they did did
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: a yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Well, they did a military version of the, the old Chevy k five Blazer, and it's got a diesel engine in it. It's, like, the the military spec. I just found one that's, like, been, like, completely restored. So I've been looking at, like, okay. I need to get some one of these vehicles that I can just I can fix myself.
• 49:52
  It's not gonna get wiped out with an EMP.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So it's That's actually something I haven't even really thought about. I've got all the other stuff, guns, ammo, food, water. You know, we grow and grow and eat and and, you know, chickens and goats and sheep and getting pigs this fall, which should be fun. But yeah, no, I haven't thought about that because all the chips in your car would get fried in VMP and you couldn't go anywhere, right? So these old and I think there's like You see these phones that are coming out now where it's like no screen?
• 50:19
  They're new and they look cool. Sorry, you can text and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Flip phones oftentimes, right?
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like the no doom scroll new things, right? And it's like that's where things are going now. It's like less technology and stuff is actually where people want to simplify things again. I think a car that is hard wired, no chips, no dials, no digital, just pure analog, everything would be actually pretty cool. Like a new, modern, something like that would be neat.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I guess you kind of so Yeah. Looking at this the whole picture Yeah. What I'm seeing is like, okay. We're seeing that silver and gold again, no one has a crystal ball. Actually, I don't have a crystal ball.
• 51:00
  They've got a crystal ball because they they're controlling these things through their own decisions. But it's like everything looks like it's kinda playing up for a big spike. Right? And that's that's that's one that's one aspect of this. Right?
• 51:12
  It's that, you know, it's the for the same reason that I was I was buying like crazy when silver is at $40.50 bucks. You know what I mean? I added a lot of, you know, silver to my portfolio because I saw the writing on the wall. I think that we're in that again. So that's one thing.
• 51:27
  But the other thing is that and just, you know, just being very sober with whoever's watching and listening. You know, it's like if you've got the vast majority of your wealth, if your retirement, you know, your nest egg is sitting primarily in stocks and bonds. Right? And this isn't without even looking at, okay. Hey.
• 51:45
  If I bill if I buy silver at this, what if it you know, can it double when I make all this money? It's about preserving. Right? Obviously, it's great if you buy silver at $65 and, you know, within a year, it's at, you know, $1.50. That's amazing.
• 51:57
  But what's more important to that is it's an insurance policy. Right? And that's the key. Right? Because you you're right.
• 52:03
  This, you know, this warning from the BIS, like, this is not this is not something just to to write off as, oh, another kind of fury, you know, doom based thing. I'm seeing everywhere.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Talked about it. No one almost no, like, mainstream wasn't on the news. It was you know, obviously, is a what a Reuters article, but it just kind of went under the rug. But I agree with you. Look, the first and foremost reason to buy precious metals is as financial insurance.
• 52:29
  It can never go to zero. It is out of every currency. It is outside of the banking system. It is your wealth in your hands in a format that basically has lasted and will continue to last for thousands of years. Always viewed as the tier one asset by everyone in the world throughout, again, five thousand years of history.
• 52:47
  It's not going anywhere. So, as a defensive play, gold and silver are just the safest thing to do. But in the right conditions, they're also where you make the most money at the same time. So, you have the double whammy of nothing's safer and nothing's returning better, or nothing's getting bigger returns. Now, we did see that, again, to 120 in five months.
• 53:12
  Where else can you get a 300% gain in that? Now, that was only if you were trading it from the bottom to the top perfectly. No one does that. You own gold and silver as insurance first. You'll own it for many, many years.
• 53:24
  But I have price targets I'm pretty sure that I've shared on this channel. Mine are extremely conservative compared to some others. Think in and around 2030, because we still have a long time left for this market crash to play out, for the ensuing recession to play out, for the ensuing monetary intervention and money printing that we haven't even talked about, we saw a big print in 2008. We saw a big print in 2020. In 2020, they created $9,000,000,000,000 out of thin air in one year.
• 53:54
  When the bubble pops and you've got most expensive housing, most expensive stock market, and both of them are free falling and bonds are free falling, where is all that capital going to go? And in 2008, when the stock market popped, it crashed by 50% over the next six months. That's from October two and eight to March 2009. Well, from, let's say, December of 'eight to 2011, so we're talking two and a bit years, gold tripled from an all time high. It was basically the most expensive it had ever been right before the stock market crashed.
• 54:28
  It tripled in two years, And that was because people finally rotated capital out of where it was being lost into where it would never be lost. And that rotation of capital will still happen. But unfortunately, for most, it doesn't occur and that thought doesn't click until you have lost 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% of your stock portfolio. And then you go, okay, I need insurance. But owning the best form of monetary insurance over the next few years in which we are guaranteed to experience some form of financial crisis.
• 55:02
  I can't tell you when, it's just a matter of when though. You'll be paid handsomely. And I'm telling people this, I've been saying this, I say this to clients and I stand by this, and this is again, other analysts, whether it's Michael Oliver or David Hunter or any of my other big influences that I love to follow and listen to every week, my target for 2030 is give or take $10,000 gold. And what I'll expect on the gold to silver ratio, meaning the price ratio or the exchange rate between the two will be something like 30 ounces or 20 ounces will equal an ounce of gold.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: So kind of one to 20, right? So 5 100 silver.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: 500 silver or 300 sorry. 3 to $500 silver and about $10,000 gold. Now it could be much higher in gold, which would just imply that those ratios mean higher silver prices. Lots of people talking about 500 to 1,000 or $1,000 plus, but I'm not sure if we get there, fantastic. I'll probably never work a day again in my life.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Well, we'll see.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: We're not guaranteeing anything on any timeframe. You're buying it as insurance, And first and the thing I'll end the plane with here is I just want to underscore, people are not aware of the amount of risk that exists in the system right now. They're very happy with their four zero one statements that come every month. But you need to be aware of where we're at in the cycle, right? We're very close to the end, I think, in these other asset classes.
• 56:34
  So I think we've gone way over time, but that probably means that we're having a little too much fun.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So I I yeah. I I I never, you know, I never could have imagined having such fun talking about precious metals and markets, but I just, yeah. I I just enjoy it. I enjoy it. Like like, it underpins so much of what's happening in this world, and that's why I like it.
• 56:56
  Is it it's this little window you can look into that shows you so much about geopolitics, how the world is run, so much more.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And and focus on what's real. Right? Real assets, real people, you know, real whether it's health health advice or whatever, but focus on what's real. And that's where things are going. We're moving away from intangibles.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: We're going towards the real stuff. So focus on that. Yeah. You don't you don't want
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a piece of paper saying you owned 40 pounds of rice. You want a bag of 40 pounds of rice. Right?
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Micah, what is the best way for people to get ahold of you? That's why I like interviewing you is that and, actually, you know, people even tell me to see my own mom. Right? She, you know, she works she's worked with you on her on her own accounts.
• 57:40
  Yeah. But I like that people can actually just access you directly. And so Yep. Email, I think, is probably one of the best ways to get ahold of you. Right?
• 57:48
  And if so if someone even wants to have a text conversation, they should just email you with their phone number and you can text them. But what do you recommend for people to get ahold of you?
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So those of you who, again, yeah, you could work with me directly. We'll do a free consultation, no strings attached and no pressure. Like, again, just a fellow investor and fellow like minded individual guiding you through whatever it is that you need help with answering questions and giving info. But I find this, you can call me, obviously, (877) 646-5347.
• 58:21
  But I'm finding that lately a lot of people are a little gun shy. They're answering the phone less and less. They want to pick up the phone less and less, and I don't actually blame them at all. I'll give you my email here and you can make it available, Seth, wherever you deem fit, but I'll just at least give it to people here.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll actually put it on screen and then also I'll put it in the show description.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've had a lot of success with people who are a little bit reluctant to pick up the phone. They don't want to get, you know, harassed or anything, so they'll just send me a quick note and you can reach me at Micah, so that's M I C A H, noble, N O B L E, IRA dot com. So one more time, it's micahnobleirra dot com. And that's a really great place to reach me. And you can send me a quick note saying, Hey, here's my number.
• 59:06
  Text me, and I can text you. And whatever method of communicating is easiest and best for people. If you want to continue the conversation, it'd be my pleasure to do that. And, Seth, I really appreciate you having me on and letting me, ramble for so long.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. I I felt like I was the one rambling. So it's it's it's a good conversation if we both felt like we had the space to ramble a bit, which is which is good. I I like that. It's real.
• 59:31
  It's it's it's further proof that we're not two AI avatars interacting. We're real we're real people, which is which is good, as real as this block of silver. So, anyway
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: And I've shown you this before. Hey. My I always keep my 10 ounce rail spike.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. Yes.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Silver rail spike? My dad worked for the railroad, so I just keep it on my desk as a paperweight. It's my constant, you know, lay item.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm I'm I'm I'm like a fidgeter. I've got that ADHD thing.
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  Speaker 2: So Like a fidget spinner, but better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I know. I should get a silver fidget spinner. That'd be a cool it'd be a cool desktop toy.
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  Yeah. So anyway, Michael selling those. Yeah. You're right, man. It's, it's it's been good talking to you.
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  And, again, I'll make sure that the email is in the description. We'll put it up on screen. And I encourage people that just just shoot you an email. Right? That's it.
• 1:00:22
  Just, you know, to say, hey. You know, reach out. You're the same as as what you and I are on screen together as how you are on the phone. You know, you and I talk a lot offline, like, you know, off off camera. Same experience.
• 1:00:33
  And and so you're a great person.
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  Speaker 2: Send me notes that are two two sentences. Some people send me notes that are 2,000 words. Yeah. And I will get back to you regardless with my best advice and however I can help. So thank you.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Alright, man. Thank you. Take care, Micah. It's good talking to you.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes. See you later, Seth.
• 1:00:51
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