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- 0:00Speaker 1: Alina Haba, President Trump's former personal attorney, is hitting back
- 0:03Speaker 1: at new reporting from The New York Times, claiming she
- 0:05Speaker 1: was given a lucrative deal from the family of a
- 0:07Speaker 1: prominent Venezuelan billionaire just weeks before he was pardoned by Mr.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Trump.
- 0:12Speaker 1: The banker, Julio Herrera Valentini, was indicted by the Justice
- 0:16Speaker 1: Department in 2022 for an alleged scheme to bribe Puerto
- 0:20Speaker 1: Rico's then governor in exchange for replacing a regulator investigating
- 0:24Speaker 1: his bank. In 2025, he pled guilty to a lesser charge,
- 0:28Speaker 1: a single misdemeanor campaign finance charge, and was pardoned by
- 0:31Speaker 1: President Trump shortly before he was set to be sentenced. Now,
- 0:34Speaker 1: according to The New York Times, while serving as New
- 0:36Speaker 1: Jersey's acting U.S. attorney, Habba finalized a more than $ 50
- 0:40Speaker 1: million agreement to work with a new company established by
- 0:44Speaker 1: Herrera's daughter. The Times says she started formally working with
- 0:47Speaker 1: them just weeks before the president pardoned Herrera. Today on
- 0:51Speaker 1: social media, Habba denied any role in the pardon, saying,
- 0:54Speaker 1: The fake news still seems very confused by this, so
- 0:56Speaker 1: let me be even more clear. I was never paid
- 0:59Speaker 1: to secure a pardon. I never met with anyone at
- 1:01Speaker 1: the White House or DOJ about a pardon. I've never
- 1:04Speaker 1: done any work in any capacity whatsoever for a pardon
- 1:07Speaker 1: for anyone, period. A White House official told The Times
- 1:11Speaker 1: Habba had nothing to do with the pardon and that
- 1:13Speaker 1: the administration follows a pardon review process that includes the
- 1:17Speaker 1: White House Counsel's Office and the Justice Department. Joining me
- 1:20Speaker 1: now is New York Times White House correspondent Tyler Pager,
- 1:23Speaker 1: who broke the story. So Tyler, can you walk us
- 1:26Speaker 1: through the timeline of how Habba got involved with Herrera
- 1:30Speaker 1: and his family and what they wanted from her?
- 1:32Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's unclear exactly what they explicitly asked her
- 1:38Speaker 3: to do. What we know is that In October 2025,
- 1:43Speaker 3: she was finalizing this deal to join a company called
- 1:47Speaker 3: Concord Partners. Concord Partners, just days before this deal was
- 1:51Speaker 3: being finalized, was registered in Florida by Isabella Herrera, Julio
- 1:56Speaker 3: Herrera's daughter. And she was signing on to be general counsel.
- 2:00Speaker 3: But in my reporting and in conversations with sources, it's
- 2:04Speaker 3: unclear exactly what this company does.
- 2:07Speaker 1: What did she get from them?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Yeah, so she got a financial contract that was $ 10
- 2:14Speaker 3: million a year for four years, plus a range of
- 2:18Speaker 3: different bonuses that totaled $ 50 million at the minimum, or
- 2:25Speaker 3: more than $ 50 million at the minimum over the life
- 2:27Speaker 3: of the contract.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I mean, that's an incredible contract for any general counsel.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Was she still working as a special government employee at
- 2:37Speaker 1: the time she was given this contract?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Yeah, so she started formally at the firm on January 1st, 2026.
- 2:45Speaker 3: And at the time, she was a senior advisor to
- 2:48Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi, overseeing U.S. attorneys.
- 2:52Speaker 1: And Herrera's daughter also donated $ 3. 5 million to Trump's super PAC. Separately,
- 2:57Speaker 1: the Washington Post report, she pledged $ 2. 5 million toward the
- 3:01Speaker 1: president's White House ballroom project before her father's pardon. What
- 3:06Speaker 1: questions do those contributions raise in your views?
- 3:12Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Anderson, we have seen this pattern since Donald
- 3:16Speaker 3: Trump came back to office. People that are looking for
- 3:20Speaker 3: pardons have taken a series of steps to get them.
- 3:23Speaker 3: And those include making financial contributions to political causes directly
- 3:29Speaker 3: associated with President Donald Trump or causes that he supports.
- 3:33Speaker 3: They've hired a select group of lawyers who have either
- 3:37Speaker 3: worked for or are closely aligned with Donald Trump. And
- 3:41Speaker 3: so we've seen this playbook before. And the reason we
- 3:45Speaker 3: continue to see it is because it has worked. We
- 3:48Speaker 3: have you know, my colleagues have reported other cases where
- 3:51Speaker 3: people have paid five hundred thousand dollars or a million
- 3:54Speaker 3: dollars for lawyers directly involved in pardon cases. processes. Now, again,
- 4:01Speaker 3: we should make clear that Alina Haba says she had
- 4:04Speaker 3: nothing to do with this pardon, but the Herrera family
- 4:08Speaker 3: clearly saw a playbook that other people were having success
- 4:11Speaker 3: with and adopted it.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Tyler Pager, thanks so much. I really appreciate the reporting.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me, Anderson.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Back now with our panel. You know, regardless of the
- 4:24Speaker 1: the this particular story, government corruption comes in second. I mean,
- 4:29Speaker 1: if you look at the polling, second only behind the
- 4:30Speaker 1: cost of living in the latest CNN poll of polls.
- 4:33Speaker 1: of top issues for voters this fall. That, I mean,
- 4:37Speaker 1: doesn't really surprise me, but I think it's pretty remarkable.
- 4:39Speaker 1: It's probably the first time we have seen this.
- 4:41Speaker 4: It really popped in this poll that we released today,
- 4:44Speaker 4: our final sort of national poll snapshot before the election,
- 4:48Speaker 4: as an issue. And yes, it's still far behind the economy.
- 4:51Speaker 4: That is far and away the number one issue. But
- 4:53Speaker 4: the fact that it is up there, and Anderson, This
- 4:56Speaker 4: story that you just talked to Tyler about and the
- 4:59Speaker 4: stories about who donated to the ballroom and what they got,
- 5:02Speaker 4: this is just building the to-do list for Hakeem Jeffries
- 5:05Speaker 4: and the Democrats. If indeed they do take the House majority,
- 5:08Speaker 4: I think you're going to see a very concerted effort
- 5:12Speaker 4: among Democrats if they make it to the majority vote.
- 5:14Speaker 4: to focus their oversight and investigative powers on this kind
- 5:18Speaker 4: of stuff and try to tie it directly to how
- 5:21Speaker 4: voters are feeling, which is it's not just like, oh,
- 5:23Speaker 4: this is corruption and boy, that's terrible. It's this system
- 5:27Speaker 4: is rigged against me and people with connections get the
- 5:31Speaker 4: benefit and I'm hurting economically and they see the things
- 5:35Speaker 4: tied together. And that has provided a really toxic brew
- 5:38Speaker 4: for Republicans this campaign season.
- 5:40Speaker 1: And I mean, does any of this surprise you? I'm sorry. Kristen, sorry.
- 5:47Speaker 5: No, this doesn't surprise me. We've been seeing political corruption
- 5:49Speaker 5: rising in our polls as well. Some of that, I
- 5:52Speaker 5: would note, is Republicans who are talking about this as
- 5:55Speaker 5: an issue in terms of things like government fraud. So
- 5:57Speaker 5: it's not all about. Trump administration mischief. But, you know,
- 6:02Speaker 5: Donald Trump's case to voters for over a decade has
- 6:05Speaker 5: been built on two things. I'm a business guy who's
- 6:08Speaker 5: going to be good at the economy. And even as
- 6:10Speaker 5: we've been discussing earlier, you know, in prior midterms, voters said,
- 6:13Speaker 5: I don't like the guy, but at least he's good
- 6:15Speaker 5: at the economy. That's now gone away. But the other
- 6:17Speaker 5: piece of Donald Trump's message to voters has always been,
- 6:20Speaker 5: I'm an outsider. I'm rich myself. I don't need this
- 6:23Speaker 5: job for anything. I'm doing this for you. I'm going
- 6:25Speaker 5: to drain the swamp. And now voters are looking and
- 6:28Speaker 5: they're seeing all of these people around the president making
- 6:30Speaker 5: an awful lot of money off of cryptocurrency or contracts.
- 6:35Speaker 5: And it just feels very unseemly. And I have heard
- 6:38Speaker 5: in focus groups, people who voted for Donald Trump in
- 6:40Speaker 5: 2024 going, what is this guy doing? And that is
- 6:44Speaker 5: part of what's creating these real headwinds for Republicans.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And I do want to make sure, I mean, Habba
- 6:49Speaker 1: says she was never paid to secure a pardon, that
- 6:52Speaker 1: she's done nothing wrong. The Times has obviously reported what
- 6:55Speaker 1: it reported. The issue of corruption, though, do you hear
- 6:58Speaker 1: this a lot from voters you talk to? From everyone.
- 7:02Speaker 2: And it wasn't just on the CNN poll. It showed
- 7:04Speaker 2: up as one of the top issues of concern for
- 7:07Speaker 2: voters on the Fox News poll. And listen, this is
- 7:10Speaker 2: part of the drip, drip, drip, right? So this week,
- 7:13Speaker 2: it's Alina Haba and this alleged contract. Last week, we
- 7:17Speaker 2: learned about Kimberly Goldfoyle, Donald Trump Jr. 's former fiancé,
- 7:21Speaker 2: ambassador to Greece for Donald Trump, and her alleged request
- 7:27Speaker 2: of $ 100, 000 from a Trump donor to pay for her
- 7:30Speaker 2: Amex bill.
- 7:31Speaker 6: Honey, please.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Just....
- 7:33Speaker 2: Who doesn't ask a friend for $ 100, 000 to pay for
- 7:36Speaker 2: the Amex bill? The week before that, we learned that
- 7:39Speaker 2: Donald Trump Jr. 's company that he just invested in
- 7:42Speaker 2: had gotten billion dollars in contracts from the government. Weeks
- 7:47Speaker 2: before that, we learned that Donald Trump's Junior's wedding party,
- 7:51Speaker 2: the party at his wedding, had been paid by a
- 7:54Speaker 2: Russian oligarch. Weeks before that, we learned about, you know,
- 7:59Speaker 2: the ballroom, Melania's documentary sold to Amazon, the crypto grift.
- 8:04Speaker 2: I mean, it's just one thing after another, while regular
- 8:07Speaker 2: Americans are paying $ 5 for gas, $ 6 for diesel, $ 6. 30
- 8:11Speaker 2: for a pound of ground beef. And making, you know,
- 8:17Speaker 2: having a hard time making ends meet. And these people
- 8:20Speaker 2: are just like in this, you know, let them eat cake,
- 8:25Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette, you know, who cares type of mode.
- 8:29Speaker 6: It's horrible.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Pete, I mean, when you were in the George W.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Bush White House, this is a far cry from anything.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I mean, it's a far cry from anything we've seen before.
- 8:41Speaker 6: Well, we actually had an incident in the George W.
- 8:44Speaker 6: Bush White House in the final weeks of the administration
- 8:47Speaker 6: in December of 2008. In fact, it was two days
- 8:50Speaker 6: before Christmas when President Bush issued 19 pardons. And then
- 8:55Speaker 6: a news report was published about one of the individuals
- 8:58Speaker 6: pardoned and the fact that his father had donated to
- 9:02Speaker 6: the Republican National Committee. Photos surfaced of this father with
- 9:07Speaker 6: President Bush at a grip and grin fundraiser. And for
- 9:10Speaker 6: those who have ever been to one of those, you know,
- 9:13Speaker 6: you get literally about seven seconds with the president. But
- 9:16Speaker 6: there was that appearance of impropriety that people were concerned
- 9:21Speaker 6: about and some shady dealings that took place or some
- 9:25Speaker 6: personal connections or friendships that led to the pardon. So
- 9:28Speaker 6: what President Bush did was he rescinded, he revoked the
- 9:32Speaker 6: pardon the next day on Christmas Eve because it had
- 9:36Speaker 6: not yet been personally delivered to that individual. So the
- 9:40Speaker 6: Department of Justice deemed that he was able to do that.
- 9:42Speaker 6: It was an unprecedented decision, but it was for this
- 9:46Speaker 6: very reason. It's so that the public did not think
- 9:49Speaker 6: there was something corrupt happening and that led to the pardon.
- 9:53Speaker 1: The idea of that, I mean, It seems like a
- 9:56Speaker 1: quaint time. like that. I mean, it's remarkable looking back
- 10:00Speaker 1: now at something like that.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and for Republicans, you know, they
- 10:05Speaker 5: look at things like this and they go, well, what
- 10:07Speaker 5: did Joe Biden do as his.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Last act on the way out the door?
- 10:10Speaker 5: He preemptively kind of pardoned a bunch of his family
- 10:12Speaker 5: members that you can think back to the end of
- 10:14Speaker 5: the Clinton administration and the pardons that came at the
- 10:17Speaker 5: end of that. And that was a huge political firestorm.
- 10:19Speaker 5: And we've just now gotten so far away from that
- 10:22Speaker 5: to now we're a quarter century later. Things like this
- 10:25Speaker 5: can happen. And they're but a blip, not a week's
- 10:28Speaker 5: long news story.
- 10:28Speaker 4: And it's so much broader than a pardon.
- 10:30Speaker 2: One of the cudgels that they used in the 2024
- 10:33Speaker 2: campaign was Hunter Biden. And frankly, the money that Hunter
- 10:36Speaker 2: Biden got from Burisma seems like chump change. in comparison
- 10:40Speaker 2: to the numbers that are being thrown around and in such,
- 10:43Speaker 2: you know, it's not just the sun. It is practically
- 10:46Speaker 2: everybody around Donald Trump. Now, Hunter Biden had to go
- 10:50Speaker 2: in and testify for seven hours in front of a
- 10:53Speaker 2: congressional committee. So to your point, the question will be,
- 10:56Speaker 2: will Democrats have the spine to do the same?