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Morally Gray Men & True Enemies to Lovers Recs · Two Girls, One TBR

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  Hey book babes, welcome back to 2 Girls, 1 TBR, your chaotic
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  book besties here to wreck your reading list. 1 morally Gray man
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  at a time. I'm Rebecca, and you can find me
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  over on Instagram at Azzarella Reads.
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  So. So how are you doing today,
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  ma'am? Just getting rid of my suntan
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  ish that I got burnt over memorial weekend.
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  Still a little pink little juicy.
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  I wait you can see I'm tanning crispy.
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  I was feeling so bad at the beginning of the week.
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  I don't know what happened, like how I burnt that bad.
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  I'm usually a good like just a little bit of sun.
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  Wear some sunscreen if I remember, like especially if I'm
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  out in the heat, heat sun like direct sunlight.
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  I'm like, yeah, put on your sunscreen because I'm fair.
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  I'm a fair Lily when. Are like my children and my
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  husband. Yeah, we don't have the the
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  Italian skin. I'm tanning, I'm tanning.
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  Red or white? As you can see, I'm I'm, I'm
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  tanning because look, you can see the difference.
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  I'm already, and this is only from just being out mousing.
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  I'm just crisping over here. Well, fried chicken crisp.
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  My husband there, well, Daniel, he, he burns too, but he's been
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  out like so much outside. He kind of has like the Farber
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  tan kind of, but it's not like tan like I am.
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  I think it's more like freckles, you know, kind of thing that has
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  given him more of the illusion of a tan.
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  He did not put sunscreen on the back of his heck as he wears his
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  baseball hat, you know, and you know how like on the back of the
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  hats they have that opening. And he had like a little like I
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  told him, I said, you need to make sure when you wear those,
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  those particular hats, you need to put sunscreen on that part of
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  your head and the top of his ears because he he will burn and
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  it then it, it just peels. I I will burn.
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  I'm not saying I won't burn. I'm sure I will at some point
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  here this summer. I will get a little too much sun
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  and I will burn, but it quickly turns to to tan for me.
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  Yeah, and that's how I usually am.
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  It is like I go out and like little waves of time and like
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  absorb some sun, get a little red kind of pinks.
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  But I have not been burnt like this in so long.
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  I don't know what happened. I was in the pool.
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  Maybe it was just like a really reflective day at the beach.
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  I don't know. So.
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  What got you was the reflection off the water and that's
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  probably what burnt you. Because I was only out for maybe
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  an hour and then I had to go in with the kids, you know, and get
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  naps going and stuff. So I don't know what happened.
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  Now I seen on the on Instagram because you know, people post
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  all kinds of interesting things and I'm like, why don't I do
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  this? Because my bathtub in my bath
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  master bathroom, it's not like a deep, deep bathtub.
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  They have I seen it. They're portable bathtubs.
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  I don't know if you see it because like I guess people
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  could do it with camping, but they have like designs on it
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  that doesn't feel like they would go for like a camping
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  vibe. But you can buy them and you can
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  fill up, put it actually in your bathtub, fill it up.
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  So you can have like the deep soaker thing if you don't have a
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  soaker tub. For thing I have not seen that.
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  They're like 60 bucks on Amazon but you have to watch wherever
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  your drain is in your tub which one you buy.
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  Some of them have the drain at the front of the tub and some
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  have it on the side like mine. I'd have to have it at the side
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  because my drain is in this is on the is in the middle of my my
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  tub. Sorry I don't like that would be
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  super fun. And they're insulated, so they
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  hold the heat. Cool.
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  I know. That might be worth looking
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  into. I want one of those and I want
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  one of those mats that does The Jets, the bubble jets.
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  Yeah, I've seen those, yeah. Because I would never have a
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  bathtub with The Jets already in it.
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  Have you? See how filthy?
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  Those are. Had one of those and I did not
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  like it. Yeah, they don't work very well.
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  A lot of upkeep and then yes, they do get gunky.
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  If you don't regularly like cycle it, those pipes are going
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  to like sit so. I've watched some again, I watch
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  stuff on Instagram and they were gross.
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  My nephew got E coli sickness from their jet tub and he had to
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  be hospitalized for a couple days from E coli in.
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  The tub tub. We'll see.
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  Again, there's another reason I will not have one of those so
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  this so. Be careful, clean those out
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  regularly. Well, that's why I'm thinking
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  and it's like it's like a pillow kind of thing, you know, so it's
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  like you put it behind you and it's all full of The Jets and
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  you hook it up like on the side of your tub and it pumps the air
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  and then you can have the the bubbles.
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  Yeah, So I don't know. I I see a lot of things on
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  Instagram that I want to do what I ever do them do.
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  I put them on this in AM on a. Lot of things, yes, but that was
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  my. I think that would even be fun,
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  like in the summertime to like have two of those tubs and set
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  them outside because they just collapse.
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  And then just maybe my neighbors, my neighbors might
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  have an interesting view of that.
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  Well, we have like an inflatable pool that we put in the back for
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  like the kids and stuff like that.
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  But but I wish we had room that we could actually have an actual
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  pool pool. But our yard is not big enough.
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  Yeah. And we're not.
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  I don't think we're allowed with our HOA to have one in here
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  because the yards aren't big enough.
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  Yeah, I mean, you don't want to step out your door right into
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  the pool, so it makes sense, but.
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  I would do it though, but someday that's that's the dream.
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  Again, I told you this is not forever house.
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  This is the beginning house. Forever house will have either a
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  hot tub or will have a swimming pool, but my husband would
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  prefer a swimming pool. So that's the dream.
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  So that's. So what are you reading right
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  now? I'm going to show you what I'm
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  reading. I'm I'm reading.
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  That's what I'm reading. Oh nice.
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  I have been not reading physical books lately and.
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  You've been doing a lot of audio books.
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  Yes, because my kids interrupt me.
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  And at least with the audio book, you can kind of go back
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  and get your interests while I'm doing, like, chores and stuff.
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  You can't do chores while you're reading the physical book.
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  I mean, you could, but it's pretty hard.
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  If you have soapy hands, you're reading a book.
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  Yeah, I'm just all over the place right now with my kids.
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  They like to the littlest ones to like stick his hand down his
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  butt and show me that he has poop instead of just coming up
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  to me and saying I have poop. Change me.
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  He's only what, 22 months? So I mean, he goes, oh, Yucky's.
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  Do you think he's going to want no time?
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  Do you think he's going to want a potty train soon since?
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  He doesn't. Like it?
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  With the 2 year old, because I have the one and two year old,
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  so the two year old will be 3 in July and so this summer since
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  it'll be warmer, we can kind of do the P wherever outside even
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  kind of situation. Boys are easy kind of like that.
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  Not always, but I'm going to try potty training so we'll see.
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  The one, the one year old does everything the 2 year old does.
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  Anyways. That's why my house is a
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  disaster and I'm constantly running around fixing things,
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  finding what they're up to, dealing with poop in one room
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  and the other one's, you know, doing something and taking
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  things out of the cabinet and the other room.
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  It's really eventful throughout the day, just not in a way I
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  would enjoy, like reading different characters throughout
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  the day, but yeah. So oh, absolutely.
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  But I think that. Might you might have been
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  cleaning a lot I. Think you might do you might do
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  well because if he does want to see what his brother's doing, he
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  may, he may do well. Now my, my oldest, he did really
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  well. My middle one, not as much
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  because he was, he just had no interest in it.
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  So he took longer. But then my youngest, Sir, she
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  did, but it's a girl. It's different.
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  She did really well. She was, she had turned 2 and
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  right after she turned 2, it was like 6 weeks.
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  Whatever weird little potty they trained her as.
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  Fast. It was fast but it was a girl
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  again so but the boys it was mainly I had to put Cheerios and
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  stuff in the toilet so they could aim it right and learn.
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  How a lot of bribery with toys and M&M's, and I mean, just a
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  lot of bribing and but the oldest one caught on.
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  I want to say what he was like 3:00-ish when he finally caught
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  on to it and started getting better at it.
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  But I had to bribe him with a lot of monster trucks.
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  So that happened. We'll see what the second one
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  wants to do. He's also stubborn and like when
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  you're like, hey, come on, come over here.
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  He's at that stage right now where he runs away from you and
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  thinks it's funny. Yes, yeah, that could be
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  aggravating or funny and play along.
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  But most of the time it's like when you need them to do
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  something like, hey, you have poop in your diaper.
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  Come here now. Let's change this.
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  And he's like, let me run around the house with a poopy diaper
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  some more. Well, my oldest there because,
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  because our kids are very similar age wise.
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  You know, I, I had just one more year.
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  I'm five year there and three within 5.
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  You have 3 within 4 when we would go places because a lot of
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  times it was just me, not because, you know, my husband
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  was working and that kind of stuff.
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  Oh my God, I had to get the little backpack thing that went
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  on my oldest that had the leash. Do you know what I'm talking
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  about? I thought.
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  About it, I'm telling you, Rebecca, we went to the grocery
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  store this week, all three of them.
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  And was it just you? It was just me.
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  Thank God it was a store that I know and like I could go around
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  and just kind of grab the staples that we need.
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  But Oh my gosh, it it was like, don't touch that.
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  Stop touching everything. You know, they go down the aisle
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  and they have to like. You don't put them all in the
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  cart at the same you don't put them all in the cart.
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  They don't all fit in the cart with the groceries.
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  See three of them. Well, see, that was well see a
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  lot of my grocery shopping because I go to Costco a lot,
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  I'd have all three of them in the cart.
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  Dominic would always sit in the basket, you know the big part.
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  And then the other two would sit because they're side by side and
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  I. Would just have the bigger and I
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  would. Strap them in because they
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  couldn't get because little Peanut.
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  She always wanted to get up on her knees and turn around, but I
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  had to have her strapped in. But no, I think you should
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  consider the little backpack that I'm.
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  I'm telling you, it helps because then they can't take off
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  from you and they're only so they are always close.
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  I know it's whatever. Some people have faces about it,
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  but a lot of those people don't have children and they haven't
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  had that many like or they don't.
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  Care leashed on your kid or do you want them to like push over
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  the display table and have boxes all over the floor and you feel
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  embarrassed because of that? You know they were getting the
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  two oldest were walking. The baby was in the cart like
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  seated next to me that way, and I would help.
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  I would be like, OK, grab this, grab that.
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  And they were helpful at first. Then they started fighting with
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  each other. Then they started wanting these
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  snacks and those snacks and fighting over the snacks and who
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  got to hold the snack. And then they were like brawling
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  at one time by the registers. And I was like, we just need to
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  go down this one last aisle. We're leaving.
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  And I was like, like I was hurrying through my.
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  Oldest we would go, this was years ago when he was little, we
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  would shop at Sam's Club at that point and we were in there and I
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  don't know because he was like 3, maybe a little over 3 because
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  I'm going to say my middle, he was a baby baby or like in a in
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  the car seat that I could set the car seat, you know, in the
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  cart, you know. So because I wasn't trying to
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  carry him both and I would keep him in the, you know, carry, you
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  know, carry him. And my oldest was bad because
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  anytime someone would talk to him, he would spit on people.
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  We didn't spit at people. It wasn't like I was going
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  outside spitting. I don't know why he did it and
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  he thought it was hilarious. And there was this one lady by
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  my husband worked with at the time and any time she talked to
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  him, he would spit at her. And I was always like, Diane,
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  I'm like, you cannot, I said, I know it's funny.
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  I know it is, but you can't laugh.
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  Not to laugh. I said please because I said we
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  have to try to break him up this and and he just would not.
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  It wasn't until we just didn't see Diane anymore and then he
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  finally stop that. But Oh yeah, he would try to
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  take off and and things like that.
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  Oh yeah, but I was that kid though.
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  That's why it was a monkey, like a little backpack and it was a
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  monkey. And I had to because like if we
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  would go for a walk, you know, even just when I had the two of
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  them, you know, once in the stroller and then the monkey.
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  And then after I had then when I had my daughter, then I remember
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  going to the mall and I had all three of them at Christmas time.
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  I had her in October. So she would have been a baby
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  baby. She was in the stroller.
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  I had to put the middle 1. He had the monkey on and I had
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  to hold on to him. And then I had my other son and
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  he kept wanting to go under the clothes and stuff like at JC
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  Penney's and stuff. And I felt like I was about half
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  nuts and, and then the middle one.
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  And then he, he was walking because he was like 2 1/2 at
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  that point. But then he decided that it's
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  always when he would want to fall over and stuff.
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  And I'm trying to walk and I'm trying and then he's, it was not
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  fun. So I, I understand 100% how you
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  feel 100%. And it's, it's difficult when
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  you, you know, if you have to go by yourself all the time with
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  your kids, you know, because a lot of us, we don't have the
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  luxury of having, you know, our, you know, our spouse or whatever
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  with us because you know, they're working and you have to
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  go. And I don't do things.
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  Any family around that lives close that isn't working like
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  during the week and IA lot of them are busy.
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  Like even my brother who's a bachelor like he has the
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  bachelor life. So it's not like and what I want
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  him. I mean the kids are a little
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  older now and he visits a lot. Like, he could probably like,
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  hang out with the kids for an hour while I went somewhere, but
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  but he works, you know? So I should ask family or
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  babysitters or anything like that.
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  We live kind of far away. But you should ask your brother,
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  tell him, please do this for me. Let me have my vacation at the
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  grocery store so I can go by myself.
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  Because it becomes a vacation, you know, when you get to go.
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  But no, I, I remember all those times I remember going.
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  Yeah, going out with your kids to do something like that where
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  it's not not like a play place for them to play and be
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  themselves and you have to like keep them in line and be
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  societal. It's it's a harder than like
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  going by yourself, boy, yourself feels like, wow, I got a
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  reprieve today. Like I didn't have to do this
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  with the kids. This is great.
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  Absolutely. I mean even now my kids are
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  getting bigger now my oldest son, he's much, he helps and
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  stuff like that. The middle one, he's, you know,
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  with that halfway point, you know that, you know, he's 13
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  now. He he helps, but sometimes he's
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  not helpful. But now the little one, she,
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  she's OK. I mean, now I should say, but
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  before she would be just nuts when we would go places and
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  things like that. That's why for the when they
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  were really little, I did not take them to restaurants to sit
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  and we would always get something out because I was, I
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  was not going to well, I was not going to be.
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  And they don't eat, they get up to wait.
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  They don't want to wait for the food.
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  And then it takes sometimes a long time, depending on what
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  rest we go to. If we go out to dinner, it's
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  usually with family. And then that's a bigger party.
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  So then you're waiting longer for that bigger place settlement
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  to come out. Absolutely.
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  My kids are like, where's my food?
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  I'm hungry. They've already drank, you know,
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  all their tea and water and everything else and ready to get
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  up and play. Well, you know, and then The
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  thing is I don't want to go and have my kids mess up stuff
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  everywhere or to throw anything because I couldn't leave the
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  table like in a disaster. Like I have gone to restaurants
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  and gone places with people that have children that are small and
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  stuff. I understand you're about ready
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  to fly the the the nest or fly the coop or whatever because
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  you're being drove nuts, but I couldn't leave leave my table or
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  the carpet underneath like some of the people I have seen.
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  Like stupid, like destroyed. Yeah, and food all over the
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  place and stuff. I'm not expecting the people
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  that work at a restaurant to have to clean up after my
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  children just. And I don't like that a lot
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  more. Sorry, here's an extra button,
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  not. Just, But no.
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  That's why I just wouldn't do it again.
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  I wasn't going to. I wasn't going to do that to
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  those people. Yeah.
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  And yeah, I mean, it's expensive to go out these days anyways.
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  You take out three kids, three kids meals, that's so expensive,
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  and then they don't eat it and then you take it home, they
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  still don't eat it. So if I go out.
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  And plus and then you'll get to a point too and that they won't
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  like. Equal.
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  No. No, like fun for me to be
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  outside my house dealing with these kids throwing their food,
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  not eating it, just wanting to get up and play and not sit down
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  and have a meal. That's not to me.
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  Fun. Like I don't get any joy out of
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  that. All I do is get frustrated and
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  pissed off and I want to scream at my kids.
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  Like how is that healthy? Well, you know, like, like
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  people say, oh, you have to take your kids places when they're
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  really little. So they have experiences and
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  they get, no, I mean, when they're really little, they
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  don't know anything. They don't.
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  Do you think they're going to have the memories of some of
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  these places where they're that little?
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  Absolutely not like the people that take the really, really
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  little ones to Disney. What are you doing?
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  Why are you torturing your story?
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  For me, I will, I will stand on a coffee table for this one
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  because I love Disney and I have brought my kids young to Disney.
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  But it's for me and my joy. I don't care if they remember or
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  not, I love seeing their little faces light up at the characters
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  and seeing how people like how they react and things like that.
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  And they could go on some of the smaller rides with you and
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  that's really fun for me because I enjoyed, well, you.
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  And that's my joy. As you know, I'm, I'm not big
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  with people, you know, that big crowds and that kind of stuff.
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  Rebecca, She doesn't do crowds. She.
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  Don't do crowds. I just like I get like past.
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  The only that's the only crowd I can I like to do and put up with
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  because I also don't I get anxiety with crowds and even at
• 20:18
  Disney I can, I'll be like, motherfuckers better get out of
• 20:21
  my way right now. But I know where to go,
• 20:25
  especially Disneyland because I grew up there.
• 20:27
  So like I know where going. I know how to like finagle
• 20:30
  around a lot of the place. So I feel comfortable in that
• 20:34
  crowd, I guess, but. I guess like for me, like when
• 20:37
  they were little, you know, if I'm gonna, well, even now, I
• 20:41
  should say, even now, if I want to go somewhere and I want to
• 20:45
  experience something, I first I ask my kids, is this something
• 20:49
  going? Is this something you would
• 20:51
  enjoy? Yeah, and they're old enough now
• 20:53
  to ask. Oh yeah, And if they tell me no,
• 20:57
  because there's always one in the bunch, if like I, I have to
• 21:00
  say, if I take my kids individually to do something,
• 21:04
  they have a much better, fine, much better time.
• 21:08
  Now that would be the younger too, because I can't, they're
• 21:12
  not old enough to leave them by themselves to babysit or
• 21:15
  whatever. Like say like the two older one
• 21:17
  to go leave my youngest, I can't do that now.
• 21:20
  My oldest I can because sometimes he doesn't want to go
• 21:22
  and do stuff with us. But I will not be drove nuts.
• 21:26
  Like if we're going to do something, I will not do it.
• 21:29
  If we're going and everybody's in each other's throats and
• 21:33
  they're all right and they're crabby and I'm like, no, I'm not
• 21:37
  going to do this. I'm not going to.
• 21:40
  I do want to take them here, maybe here, maybe this coming
• 21:44
  month or whatever. I want to go South here in
• 21:48
  Kentucky. There's the battlefield, the
• 21:51
  Perry Hill Civil War battlefield.
• 21:53
  I want to go there. I want to go there because I
• 21:57
  like that kind of stuff. Yeah, but I'm.
• 21:59
  Good on the sidelines while you do your thing.
• 22:02
  I like going to see that. Yeah, bet me.
• 22:04
  I like to see that stuff. I went, I made them go and see
• 22:07
  an ancient Ice Age burial mound that's here in Kentucky.
• 22:11
  It's just a mound out in. The middle and you know it since
• 22:14
  you home school, that's home schooling.
• 22:16
  Absolutely them out into history lessons like that.
• 22:19
  You could make that a history lesson.
• 22:22
  Absolutely. Well, you have to, I have to
• 22:24
  show you something. The pictures from that Ice Age,
• 22:26
  again, I found it fascinating. But they said there's like like
• 22:30
  1000 people are buried inside that mount and it's from the Ice
• 22:34
  Age. Think how long ago that is.
• 22:37
  I don't. I'm surprised no ones tried to
• 22:39
  like drill into it and find the people and stuff.
• 22:41
  Well, they must know how they're layered because they said they
• 22:44
  layer them like like layers of a cake, the dead.
• 22:47
  And that's what they do when they're these big mouths.
• 22:49
  And it's, it's just out in the, the middle of this cornfield.
• 22:53
  And the guy, because when we went, it was like it early in
• 22:57
  the spring kind, but it had like where he had mowed down all the
• 23:00
  corn. So he plants the corn up on the
• 23:03
  mound too. I'm like, that's weird because
• 23:06
  if you go on Google Maps, people pin stuff.
• 23:09
  So if you want to see interesting things that aren't
• 23:11
  necessarily labeled, but that is 1.
• 23:14
  So that's, I don't know, that's our fun.
• 23:17
  We're moms. These are the things we do, but.
• 23:20
  Anyways, this week I was listening.
• 23:24
  This week I was listening to this.
• 23:27
  Book Oh, you're listening to Book 2?
• 23:29
  Yeah. So what do you think?
• 23:32
  I devoured it. I really enjoyed it.
• 23:36
  I thought the character arc was good.
• 23:39
  I thought the long distance love relationship thing was well
• 23:43
  played to the to the love triangle and the love triangle
• 23:47
  was done well. It wasn't rushed and it felt
• 23:50
  genuine. And then the whole like leading
• 23:54
  up like she's in the rebellion and the leading up to it to like
• 23:59
  kind of more like devastating things.
• 24:01
  Like there was a lot of like action plot twist.
• 24:04
  My jaw literally like I was like tons of times like jaw unhinged.
• 24:10
  Moments is is that a duology or is it a trilogy?
• 24:15
  It's a trilogy. Hanger and I need book 3 now.
• 24:20
  Like I reread book 1 and then devoured this probably like 3
• 24:25
  days listening to it. Like I would play in bed
• 24:27
  listening to this because it was that captivating.
• 24:30
  And it's really funny because I when I went on Goodreads to do
• 24:34
  my review, I saw that there was a few one star reviews and like
• 24:38
  whatever could these be about, right.
• 24:43
  And someone was like, I hated the love triangle or I hated the
• 24:47
  love. Like there should have been more
• 24:49
  like epic romance and stuff. Like I don't think I think
• 24:53
  someone read the same book as I did because I saw the little red
• 24:56
  flags that were going off with the one relationship to make it
• 24:59
  change. Like I saw something coming,
• 25:02
  either betrayal or a breakup or like something was going to
• 25:06
  happen to somebody. Like there was there was
• 25:09
  something coming like, and it was well done, like well
• 25:12
  plotted. Like these little tiny seeds
• 25:15
  were there. So I don't know where people
• 25:17
  were like I hated that. Unless they're like true romance
• 25:21
  readers where they didn't the epic fantasy part of that or the
• 25:24
  dystopian fantasy. I guess it would be.
• 25:26
  And they were just like there for the love and then they got
• 25:29
  upset cuz then it goes into it's a very like war strategic book
• 25:35
  where they're in, you know, have you ever watched Hunger Games?
• 25:40
  The Catching Fire and what's the last one?
• 25:44
  Songbird. Songbird Catching Fire and I
• 25:48
  don't remember anymore Mockingjay I.
• 25:50
  Think is the last one, I think that is set, yeah.
• 25:52
  So think of like book two and three of Hunger Games, like the
• 25:56
  end there where they're like more war driven, right?
• 25:59
  Like you, you see her like in the bunkers and the war rooms
• 26:02
  and they're like trying to like, like there's the bad guy talking
• 26:09
  about stuff and like we're going to get rid of the rebellion
• 26:12
  people that are different than us.
• 26:13
  And then she's like in the war rooms trying to navigate what to
• 26:18
  do correctly and where she belongs and stuff like that.
• 26:22
  So. I didn't read the other.
• 26:23
  I haven't read that series yet. In Hunger Games or this one.
• 26:28
  Either what? No, I've watched The Hunger
• 26:30
  Games, the movies, never read them.
• 26:32
  But I never I didn't, because what's the first book?
• 26:37
  I think it's called Hunger Game. No, no, no, no.
• 26:38
  I'm talking about what you're reading right now.
• 26:39
  This. One quicks, not quicks, is it?
• 26:43
  Silver Elite, Silver Elite. OK, yeah, I had that on my list.
• 26:47
  But see, I've seen mixed reviews with it, yes.
• 26:51
  And so I never, I've never picked it up.
• 26:54
  Yeah, I first of all, they call people quats.
• 26:57
  That is hilarious to me. They call them like God fucking
• 27:01
  quats. That's different.
• 27:03
  I like that. Right.
• 27:05
  And instead of saying like agreed, they say keen, keen,
• 27:09
  keen with that keen. So it's got like some fun like
• 27:12
  verbiage, like different terminology to it.
• 27:16
  It is dystopian. So it's dystopian fantasy, but
• 27:20
  it's not magic per SE. Like they I think they call it
• 27:23
  magic. But what happened was the people
• 27:27
  there was a war with like radiation bombs and like some
• 27:30
  other chemicals, somethings where it changed the people's
• 27:33
  DNA's. And so there are some people
• 27:36
  that are human like us. And then there's some people who
• 27:39
  are genetically modified from the war and they have telepathic
• 27:44
  powers and they have different kinds of telepathic.
• 27:46
  So you could be like some of the interesting, yeah, or you could
• 27:50
  like tell the future or, you know, telepathy with different
• 27:54
  people or empathy of it could be your thing.
• 27:59
  So there's different kinds of genetically modified powers that
• 28:03
  you get. And then so it's like a war
• 28:06
  between the humans versus the modified, right?
• 28:09
  So like they're suppressing the modified, the humans are
• 28:12
  suppressing them because they can't trust them because they
• 28:15
  can get in your head. So then they, you know, want to
• 28:18
  fight back and be like, we can all live together these things.
• 28:21
  And then there's there are people like that.
• 28:23
  So there's like other factions that like live secretively that
• 28:27
  are like free love, like they remind me like 1970s.
• 28:30
  They like live like the old people do like our generations
• 28:34
  today. They live, they live free, no
• 28:37
  tech, stuff like that. And then you have another
• 28:39
  continent that these people trade with.
• 28:42
  And these guys are like your Catholics, like God loving
• 28:47
  people that are like your whole country.
• 28:51
  Like we'll work with you and trade with you, but your
• 28:54
  country's just like we're not ever coming together to fight
• 28:58
  any wars you guys have. Like we're, we're over here.
• 29:01
  We're God loving people and we're going to stay loving the
• 29:05
  old. Way that's how Book 1 is or is
• 29:08
  that going are you just saying? This.
• 29:09
  And that's the whole. Series, OK.
• 29:11
  Yeah. So that's like how the what's
• 29:15
  kind of going on? The first book is like her
• 29:18
  hiding because she was taken away from like the rebellion by
• 29:25
  her uncle and something and her parents died.
• 29:28
  So he like saves her and she hides.
• 29:32
  But then something happens where she has to go into the military
• 29:38
  part of the humans and they call them the Primes.
• 29:42
  And she has has to like be in this situation where she's
• 29:47
  training and like a secret agent and yes, to know the governor's
• 29:52
  son and things like that. And it does.
• 29:55
  Sound like a very interesting series.
• 29:57
  I might have to give it a. Charity sent kind of military.
• 30:01
  Driven now and book 2 just came out correct?
• 30:03
  That's why you were listening to it Just came.
• 30:07
  Oh God. It's going to be probably a bit
• 30:09
  then probably till book 3 because she hasn't said anything
• 30:13
  in regards to book 3 yet or anything, no.
• 30:15
  I haven't looked it up because I don't want to get disappointed.
• 30:20
  Well, now, now I'm reading now is Kingdoms of Silent Sorrows by
• 30:25
  AG Harris. That's what I started reading
• 30:27
  because she's actually going to be on the podcast here in June.
• 30:33
  She is amazing. I like, I love talking to her.
• 30:35
  She is like the sweetest person. This is very good.
• 30:37
  I'm just at the beginning of it. The first chapter is like it's
• 30:41
  like 50. Some pages is the 1st chapter,
• 30:44
  but it's kind of like things are happening like.
• 30:47
  It's not like straight world building, it's like straight
• 30:49
  like character. Actions.
• 30:51
  I don't know Now, this is the part I don't know.
• 30:53
  The people that I'm reading about in this chapter, I don't
• 30:57
  know if they are in through the rest of the book yet.
• 31:00
  I don't know because it's like this is they're like gods and
• 31:04
  they have to, I don't even know how to describe it.
• 31:07
  There's there's three gods at the beginning of it.
• 31:10
  The one is a female and she's talking and she did something
• 31:16
  that caused this war that's happening.
• 31:19
  And basically their type of people who they are, are going
• 31:24
  to be taken over by the elves. The elves are coming, they have
• 31:29
  bigger army. At some point they're going to
• 31:32
  be eradicated and she did something.
• 31:34
  What I don't know yet because I haven't gotten that.
• 31:36
  I don't know what she's done, but they're living in basically,
• 31:40
  from what I gather, like a city or where they're at and they're
• 31:44
  behind walls and all these gods are there.
• 31:48
  There's I don't know how many of them.
• 31:50
  I don't know how many there are there, but she's there and two
• 31:53
  of them are they like her a lot And, and they're talking about,
• 31:59
  well, what should we do? We have to be able to do
• 32:03
  something about this. We have to give ourselves a
• 32:06
  fighting chance kind of thing. And the one suggests that they
• 32:09
  open a portal and they go to this other world and they're
• 32:12
  like, that's blasphemy. We can't do that.
• 32:16
  And he's like, well, if we want to survive and to be able to
• 32:19
  come back for another day and raise an army and then come
• 32:23
  back, we have to do this. And then the other suggestion he
• 32:27
  had to to build this army and at because gods cannot have
• 32:31
  children together. They cannot, but that they
• 32:35
  should go and be with humans and have children.
• 32:39
  And they're like, that's blasphemy, all this kind of
• 32:42
  stuff. So something happens while
• 32:44
  they're having this discussion and it's basically like Time's
• 32:49
  Up kind of deal. And the one says he's going to
• 32:53
  go and he's going to try to get as many of the other gods that
• 32:56
  are there and try to get them to safety.
• 32:58
  But he told the other one, we both love her.
• 33:01
  You need to take her, go through the portal.
• 33:03
  And then I'm like 100 years later now because as you're
• 33:07
  following and it's interesting, just put it that way.
• 33:11
  It's good. So the prologue kind of ends on
• 33:14
  like a cliffhanger of like an like a big event.
• 33:18
  That's what I'm I'm assuming I'm in that whole big 50.
• 33:21
  Some pages I'm in. I haven't made it to the next
• 33:23
  chapter, but it's really good and I really like how she writes
• 33:27
  and it's very vivid and like when I'm hearing them talking
• 33:31
  like the the gods, I hear them like they're very proper and I
• 33:34
  just hear them. They're not talking like how you
• 33:36
  and I are talking conversation. Like when we read Quicksilver
• 33:40
  Karian Swift, I hear him like talking like how we talk.
• 33:43
  You know what I'm saying? These are much more like the
• 33:46
  horrible people, that kind of thing.
• 33:48
  But it's really but I have to say she's amazing.
• 33:51
  But I do know she has book 2 I believe written and she's on
• 33:55
  Breeze yes. So so they are will be coming
• 33:59
  soon. But again, she does all.
• 34:01
  All the all. The artwork and everything.
• 34:03
  She's she's amazing. And then I finished your path is
• 34:07
  sorrow. I flew through that one.
• 34:09
  I don't think I think I read it and not even a week.
• 34:12
  I got that one done. So I but I did order because I'm
• 34:15
  reading this. I can't I can't read more than
• 34:17
  one book at one time, So I have to finish this one.
• 34:20
  But then I do have book too, so I'm super excited about your
• 34:25
  path is sacrifice. It is so good.
• 34:28
  I know I can't read in that one. I love.
• 34:30
  Parker's writing love it if. You were OK.
• 34:33
  To all the indie authors listening, please.
• 34:37
  For the moms out there with young toddlers who can't hold a
• 34:41
  book or a Kindle and focus on reading, make audio books for
• 34:45
  me, please. I need audiobooks put put in the
• 34:49
  money. I will buy one.
• 34:51
  OK. They are worth it.
• 34:52
  And I know a lot of other moms too that like to do audiobooks
• 34:57
  in our like phase of life right now because it's it's something
• 35:03
  to kind of drown out a lot of the busy noise too.
• 35:06
  And you get your chores done faster and just kids are wild
• 35:12
  and you can't have physical things around.
• 35:14
  And the other thing we ask it is yet even if you are a person
• 35:17
  that you know does physical copy or Kindle in your have a time
• 35:22
  period between book 1 and book 2, etcetera, etcetera.
• 35:25
  Put a little synopsis from like a summary of what happened in
• 35:30
  the last book at the beginning, because we don't always have
• 35:34
  time to do a reread. And sometimes some of these
• 35:38
  books it's like a year or more between books.
• 35:42
  And that would be extremely helpful, even if it's like just
• 35:46
  a couple pages and just give us a rundown.
• 35:49
  Well, this is what happened the last time we were together, you
• 35:52
  know, and just go through and it, it would, it would help for
• 35:55
  a lot of people. And some people have memories
• 35:57
  like goldfish, they could read a book and then like you ask them
• 36:01
  a couple weeks later and they don't remember.
• 36:03
  So it's, it's, I think that would be extremely helpful as
• 36:06
  well. Yeah, I like when I did Silver
• 36:10
  Elite, I had to reread it. Like I remembered certain things
• 36:14
  of it and then I was like, but I know for Book 2 to have impact I
• 36:18
  need to do the reread because I remembered the end left us like
• 36:24
  in this like turmoil of the relationship.
• 36:26
  Did you reread it actually physical copy or did you do
• 36:29
  audio audio? Audio, do you?
• 36:31
  Listen to it at normal speed or do you have it go really fast?
• 36:34
  How fast do you have it going? Do they sound?
• 36:37
  On .7, no. If anything a lot of them.
• 36:44
  It depends. Some of them, if you have a fast
• 36:46
  narrator, you don't need to increase it very often. 1.5 is
• 36:53
  about my medium part, like because I'm a fast reader, so in
• 36:58
  my head, like if you talk to me like this, reading the book and
• 37:04
  then maybe only this much faster, when it gets really
• 37:09
  intense, I'm like, bitch, hurry up, 1.7, what's going on?
• 37:15
  I need to read ahead. You know, when, when I edit us,
• 37:22
  when I'm listening to us like, you know, once I get, you know,
• 37:26
  as I'm cutting things and you know, doing that, I listen to us
• 37:29
  at at that speed. And you should hear us because
• 37:33
  it's hilarious because we're talking really fast and we're
• 37:35
  talking really fast and it's hilarious.
• 37:37
  And then sometimes I have to rewind it back and slow it down
• 37:40
  because if we are just in our general talking, talking really
• 37:43
  fast, and then sometimes I'll be like, what did we just say?
• 37:46
  What are we talking about? And I have to rewind it back.
• 37:48
  But I wonder, I wonder what speed you listen to.
• 37:51
  If anything, it just kind of takes the pauses out of the the
• 37:56
  length of the the word. It's weird, but no, like I don't
• 38:00
  feel like it's remember like back in the day with the BHS,
• 38:03
  it's like you would Fast forward.
• 38:07
  Doesn't sound like that. No, it's just they're talking a
• 38:10
  little faster than this. I'm like, okay, we need to.
• 38:16
  I can see you doing that, though.
• 38:19
  I could see you definitely doing that.
• 38:21
  But now, now what? Now what we're going to get into
• 38:24
  today we're going to talk about one of our absolute favorite
• 38:29
  tropes. Well, at least for me.
• 38:31
  I'm assuming Heather, this is one of your favorite as well.
• 38:34
  This. Is my favorite tropes.
• 38:36
  This is enemies to lovers, you know, now, like some books are
• 38:41
  marketed as enemies to lovers and some, and I'm like, you
• 38:45
  know, there are two chapters into the book and they're
• 38:48
  enemies to lovers. And then I'm in, you know, and
• 38:50
  then they're together that that's not enemies to lovers.
• 38:54
  This is this is what we love. I mean, you know, there's books
• 38:58
  that I mean, I could honestly say just from the synopsis and
• 39:02
  everything I know, this is enemies to lovers.
• 39:05
  This is definitely. She talks about her enemies and
• 39:09
  the how it's even a forced proximity, they still stay
• 39:12
  enemies. OK, so that's what we're going
• 39:14
  to talk about. It's true enemies to lovers
• 39:17
  today because yes, I love my rivals to lovers.
• 39:21
  I like my, you know, enemies to lovers that are like soft, we'll
• 39:25
  call it soft enemies lovers, but true enemies to lovers.
• 39:29
  Like if you get someone that can write a true where they're
• 39:33
  cutting throat still like trying to off each other while they're
• 39:37
  in this forced proximity to be together and having to work
• 39:41
  together but not trust each other constantly.
• 39:44
  Like I have some recommendations today.
• 39:47
  Well, let me ask you this now, this one here because it even
• 39:50
  though it's it doesn't happen until book 2 in this series.
• 39:54
  Do you, do you think the plated prisoner, would you really
• 39:56
  consider that enemies to lovers? No, definitely not.
• 40:00
  I don't know, but she did. But she doesn't like him though.
• 40:03
  She for a long time then. But she doesn't do anything to
• 40:07
  her. Well I guess he doesn't do
• 40:09
  anything to maim her or anything like that.
• 40:12
  Not. Knows right away who she is and
• 40:15
  what he is like her. So this would be more, but now
• 40:19
  the other person that's in it, that would be just well, he
• 40:21
  would be a lover to an enemy. It would be the reverse, I guess
• 40:25
  you would say. I guess for this it not the.
• 40:28
  Main I do love lovers to enemies as well.
• 40:31
  I think that's really a cool twist when you do it right with
• 40:35
  a good betrayal, one where you're like, oh.
• 40:38
  So I guess we could consider this, that it would be the
• 40:41
  opposite this series because the one part of it because we don't
• 40:45
  want to give any of it away, but it would be a lover's to enemy.
• 40:49
  Yeah, for 100% on that. One that I would say, but if
• 40:53
  we're talking about the guy in book 2 who becomes lovers my
• 41:00
  husband it I don't believe that's a true enemies to lovers
• 41:06
  because. No, he said.
• 41:07
  He knows because he he's he. She was like a beacon to him.
• 41:12
  Yeah, so he knew. But she didn't know though.
• 41:15
  About like who they are together because it does he capture her
• 41:21
  of some sort? Does he take her prisoner?
• 41:24
  Remember she remember the the other bad people have her.
• 41:29
  Remember the ones that are out in the snow, the ships, they
• 41:33
  have her. And then he battles them.
• 41:36
  He rescues her because he's seen her.
• 41:38
  She was like a beacon of light, yes, but he knew.
• 41:43
  But she hated him because of who she was, you know, made to think
• 41:48
  of who he was because she knew who he was well, and she knew
• 41:52
  who he was. Right and.
• 41:54
  Well, yeah, and they always made out because of.
• 41:56
  Course, her person she knows him as like the the she knows him as
• 42:02
  right, like the scary yes eggs. That is a villain villain, so
• 42:07
  she immediately thinks you're a. Villain.
• 42:08
  Because that's always what she's been told, right?
• 42:11
  Yes, that's all she's been told by.
• 42:12
  That's right. That that that goofy person,
• 42:15
  that that who will remain nameless, you know?
• 42:18
  Yeah, because everyone, you need to, if you have not read the
• 42:21
  Plated Prisoner series, please. It's a completed six book
• 42:24
  series. And I saw that she has, she has
• 42:28
  her new book coming out. I already have it pre-ordered in
• 42:30
  September. It's a duology.
• 42:32
  It's the Pied Piper and I believe she has a second duology
• 42:35
  coming out and then she's going to have the book with the
• 42:38
  brother. Yes, that'd be cool.
• 42:40
  I cannot wait for that I I love how she writes too.
• 42:42
  So but again, it's a completed series.
• 42:44
  Go out and watch it. So, but so we're going to, I
• 42:46
  guess we should classify that as a lovers to enemies, the OK,
• 42:50
  reverse. I agree so.
• 42:51
  What? What book do you are you going
• 42:53
  to put as your true enemies? OK so I recently have read some
• 43:01
  really good ones that are indie authors actually that have come
• 43:06
  out with books this year. So one of them would be like
• 43:10
  Between Tides and Thunder by Lena Kazik, I think is how you
• 43:14
  say her name and she so there's Prince Zev and Princess Maya, I
• 43:22
  think is how you could say her name.
• 43:24
  And she Maya is actually there's two warring Kingdom.
• 43:27
  It's usually like warring kingdoms, right?
• 43:30
  And then you have like these two people from each Kingdom that
• 43:34
  butt heads because they're told these are bad people both ways.
• 43:39
  And so she, she's actually Zev comes to pick her up to bring
• 43:45
  her to his brother to be married to him, But then their carriage
• 43:50
  blows up along the way and they get stuck in the forest.
• 43:53
  So that's your force proximity. And they have the force
• 43:56
  proximity to to get to the castle to marry the brother.
• 44:01
  But then there's feelings involved, but not anything that
• 44:04
  they that, you know, like it's like forbidden feelings, right?
• 44:08
  Like attraction and they know it's an attraction, but they're
• 44:12
  they're like, no we. Can't happen.
• 44:14
  We can't do this because I'm betrothed to your brother.
• 44:17
  Yes. Yeah.
• 44:18
  OK. So that great like tension
• 44:20
  building, that yearning building, and then there's so
• 44:24
  many plot holes and so many twists and right when you think
• 44:29
  that they're kind of seeing even ground, someone does something
• 44:34
  where it like shifts the foundation and you're like, oh
• 44:37
  shit, OK, now we're back to being enemies again.
• 44:40
  So this one here is a true enemy celebrity.
• 44:43
  They do never truly trust each other until the Super very end.
• 44:48
  And even then Selena had me at like, Oh my gosh, this is not a
• 44:53
  happening ever after, is it? And I was like confused.
• 44:56
  I was like, what's going to happen?
• 44:58
  And it's a standalone. So that's what I was going to.
• 45:00
  I was like this. Ends like this right now Oh my
• 45:03
  gosh Oh my gosh like I'm going to lose it and so she does a
• 45:07
  great job up until the very end that.
• 45:11
  Sounds really good. I think I added that to my TBR
• 45:14
  because you have mentioned that book before.
• 45:16
  Yeah, I think, I mean. 300 and some books I have.
• 45:19
  I'm sure. Doesn't seem really good being.
• 45:21
  Hyped I think she is going trad with it.
• 45:25
  I think she just got top Top 40 bestseller on Amazon with this
• 45:30
  book. It's it's worth the hype.
• 45:32
  I would say this is very well hyped book like it is worth the
• 45:37
  read. That's between tides and
• 45:39
  Thunder. OK, Eileena all.
• 45:41
  Right, we'll have to. Maybe I'll put up the picture.
• 45:45
  As we go all of our tropes that like those kind of enemies
• 45:49
  lovers. We got you with that one.
• 45:52
  Now what do you think? What's What's another one?
• 45:55
  Now again, now, now you're talking more.
• 45:58
  The books that you're talking are more that you've read.
• 46:00
  Now these are ones that I have heard.
• 46:02
  I've heard they're on my physical TP or they're sitting
• 46:06
  here, but I haven't read them yet.
• 46:07
  But this is just based off of what I've seen.
• 46:10
  Now this one here is this is the feather.
• 46:13
  So vicious it's book one of the duology.
• 46:16
  Constantly talk about that and this thing keeps popping up on
• 46:20
  my audible and I'm this close to just like listening to it and
• 46:24
  seeing what it's about. It's supposed to be really good
• 46:28
  and it's also very spicy. Now, what's her?
• 46:34
  Liv Xander? She actually just had another
• 46:37
  duology come out and I can't remember what it's called, but
• 46:40
  it's all over Instagram and that and all over TikTok everything.
• 46:45
  And it's it's something with crowns and it's like the number
• 46:49
  one bestseller thing or whatever now.
• 46:51
  But she's very good at enemies to lovers for to from what I
• 46:55
  understand, there's the girl that's in the book and I don't
• 46:58
  know, she gets captured or there's something with it and
• 47:02
  there's two guys and they're Raven shifters.
• 47:05
  And there's a lot of like angst and a lot of not, you know, a
• 47:10
  lot of enemies to lovers kind of thing.
• 47:13
  But I believe she's with both of them.
• 47:15
  So white shoes. It might be a white shoes kind
• 47:19
  of thing, but that's from what I understand.
• 47:21
  But anybody who else has who has actually read this, you know,
• 47:24
  you can let us know in the comments, But it's supposed to
• 47:27
  be amazing. But I I know it's like super
• 47:30
  spicy. I would put this probably in my
• 47:32
  4 pepper range because you know, I don't I don't think I've ever
• 47:37
  had anything. I guess five star or five chili
• 47:40
  pepper would be the kiss of the maskless.
• 47:42
  Even though I haven't read it just based on everybody's what I
• 47:45
  have seen that would probably be A5 mode.
• 47:47
  This is probably like this could be 4/4 and 1/2 pepper kind of
• 47:50
  thing. I believe so if you like the
• 47:52
  spiciness, but that I know this is enemies to lover, so let us
• 47:55
  know in the comments. So there's that one.
• 47:57
  So what one do you have that you have read?
• 48:02
  This one we have talked about before with Stephanie Storm is
• 48:05
  Poison Daughter by Sheila Masterson.
• 48:08
  That one's going viral right now.
• 48:09
  She just got a huge trad deal and she's like, I think she just
• 48:15
  announced like she has a book coming out in Netherland in
• 48:18
  Germany. I don't know some some like
• 48:20
  foreign deals too. So this one is so worth the
• 48:25
  hype. I, this was one where I kind of
• 48:30
  sat on it for a long time. It was actually part of my book
• 48:32
  club and I missed her. Like we have a book club where
• 48:36
  the author comes on and like chats with us and stuff.
• 48:39
  And I missed that one 'cause it's like, oh, I haven't read
• 48:41
  that. And this one also is a
• 48:42
  standalone. So I was thinking like, oh, you
• 48:46
  know, it's not a series, so I could just get into it when I
• 48:49
  get into it. And then I saw that it was
• 48:51
  getting more hype. So I'm like, what?
• 48:53
  I'm just going to read this really quick.
• 48:55
  And it is huge enemies to lovers like so, so good.
• 49:03
  And it so she has like this magic power.
• 49:08
  Like there there are a lot of there's some people with power,
• 49:11
  some people that aren't OK and then there's people that live in
• 49:15
  the and they all live inside like stone, like a wall, let's
• 49:20
  say like a big city inside a big wall, because on the outside are
• 49:24
  like vampires. We'll we'll call them, I forgot
• 49:26
  what they're actually called, but and they'll, you know,
• 49:30
  terrorize you and eat you and all that stuff.
• 49:32
  So, and I think if you get bit, you get turned.
• 49:35
  Maybe not, maybe I'm thinking too much into that.
• 49:39
  But there, there, there, there are like the bad monsters
• 49:43
  outside of the wall. So her family is this big, like
• 49:48
  most power. There's like powerful families
• 49:51
  that live within the society, you know, and hers kind of is
• 49:54
  like the, her dad's like the governor, let's say.
• 49:57
  And so each of her siblings, I think there's like 8 or 9 of
• 50:00
  them have like a special power that suits the the rule of how
• 50:07
  they rule things. And and so hers is a poison
• 50:10
  kiss. So she cannot kiss somebody or
• 50:15
  like transfer any kind of saliva, I think it is without
• 50:19
  like killing somebody. And she perfects this over time
• 50:22
  without telling her family. But her family's like corrupt
• 50:26
  and and like nasty. And so she already has this like
• 50:31
  standard of like not trust it in anybody.
• 50:34
  Like she can't trust her family. She can't even trust her
• 50:36
  brother, who she really loves that they're most close with.
• 50:40
  And so she's always like for herself.
• 50:42
  She is loyal to herself and herself only.
• 50:45
  She looks out for herself, does things that she wants to do, all
• 50:48
  that kind of stuff. So when they want to marry her
• 50:51
  off again because her last husband died unexpectedly and he
• 50:57
  was supposed to that was part of the the rain like her, her dad's
• 51:02
  like, you know, mapping. But then they want to marry her
• 51:06
  off again and she's like, fuck this shit, right?
• 51:11
  And she is, she's like the bad ass FMC that can fight and can
• 51:17
  be an assassin and she goes out and tries to like right the
• 51:22
  wrongs of the men in life that are like rapists and murderers
• 51:26
  and things like that. And so she has to like a part
• 51:29
  underlying like Throne of Glass, kind of like a sassany thing
• 51:33
  going on. But then she meets Henry, and
• 51:36
  Henry is like this from this colony they thought was lost
• 51:40
  back in the war like 10 years ago or something like that. 1020
• 51:44
  years maybe. And they're finally like making
• 51:47
  contact back with this other with like, what's her name?
• 51:52
  Harlow. I think her name is Harlow.
• 51:55
  And in in her society. So like he comes back and they
• 52:00
  know like there's something kind of going on with those people
• 52:04
  and they're sending her to like spy and like get get the goods
• 52:08
  right? Like learn all the stuff.
• 52:10
  But they have all these secrets and she has all her secrets and
• 52:13
  then she has her family secrets and then she has her society
• 52:15
  secrets. And then he's got more secrets
• 52:17
  and he is something that we don't know about and he has some
• 52:20
  kind of power that we don't know about.
• 52:22
  And so there's all these like things that they like constantly
• 52:26
  fight about and and can't ever find like that level ground and
• 52:30
  they're constantly like at each other's throats about stuff.
• 52:34
  So it is a true enemies to lovers.
• 52:37
  Like they're I can't say too much more about like how like he
• 52:40
  comes into play with it. It's really good.
• 52:43
  Like how they meet too. It's like.
• 52:45
  I'm excited. Oh shit, now is it?
• 52:47
  It's a. Shit moment when they meet it's
• 52:49
  really cool. Is it in August?
• 52:51
  I think maybe it comes out the traditional.
• 52:54
  Is being republished. For some reason I'm thinking
• 52:57
  it's August it comes out but I could be wrong.
• 52:59
  I know it's soon. It's the summer, I believe.
• 53:02
  Soon. And the cover on it's gorgeous.
• 53:04
  And sprayed edges and deluxe and everything like that.
• 53:07
  So that is. I'm going to get up for my
• 53:10
  shelf. I'm going to get it and put it
• 53:13
  on my shelf. I when will I read it?
• 53:15
  I don't know, but it's going to be on there.
• 53:17
  If you pre-order it, she has like a piece of art that comes
• 53:20
  with it. I think you have to tell her
• 53:23
  that you pre-ordered it though. Remember, if I I have
• 53:26
  pre-ordered a tremendous well, not I shouldn't say a tremendous
• 53:30
  number, but so I mean I might have to pre-order that one so I
• 53:33
  can have it's just it's beautiful.
• 53:35
  I think the cover is gorgeous. You know how we are with our
• 53:38
  covers, But but that is definitely that is 1.
• 53:41
  I do know, and it is, I didn't know what it was about, but I
• 53:45
  knew that everybody loved it and you said it was amazing.
• 53:48
  And Stephanie said like. Super dark, Rebecca and Spicy
• 53:52
  and you would love that, yeah. You know I.
• 53:53
  Love it. I mean, it's like orgy style,
• 53:56
  like spice marriage bedding is like in front of like a crowd of
• 54:02
  people that have to witness and they have to like do something
• 54:05
  to make it like mean something and like combine like.
• 54:09
  You know, they did that like, like years ago in England and
• 54:13
  stuff. Oh yeah.
• 54:14
  And they had to actually, a whole bunch of weirdos had to
• 54:16
  stand there. This was not.
• 54:17
  Weird though. Yeah, this wasn't like weird
• 54:19
  like that. Like in Daggermilf, which is
• 54:21
  another true enemy, celebrities, they that's a dystopian fantasy.
• 54:26
  And so the misogynistic men think that when people get
• 54:32
  married, they have the right to watch the communion of that.
• 54:36
  And yeah, so they have like, a gallery where you get watched
• 54:40
  and stuff. And so our FMC is not about
• 54:44
  that. And she's like, that's not going
• 54:45
  to happen to me. Fuck you.
• 54:47
  I just. I love duck your mouth, by the
• 54:49
  way, That's a number. That's a number or another
• 54:53
  recommendation from me for true enemies lovers.
• 54:55
  They like shoot at each other constantly and like get in
• 54:58
  fights and cut each other. I have that one on my list.
• 55:00
  I added that one because of you as well.
• 55:03
  That's the one you and I talked about because the cover you said
• 55:07
  if you wouldn't have known whatever you would have walked
• 55:09
  past it. Now the the cover since it went
• 55:11
  traditionally. It's a weird cover but you said
• 55:14
  it makes sense when you read it. But but the newer 1 looks bad
• 55:19
  matter in my opinion. Again, I I most of the time I
• 55:22
  always side with saying I feel the indie cover looks better in
• 55:26
  my opinion. But when I've seen the
• 55:28
  traditional cover or dagger mob, I do think it looks better than
• 55:33
  the indie cover in my opinion. But I'm I'm excited to to read
• 55:37
  that one as well. I do.
• 55:37
  But like I said, I have that on my my 300 and some book TBR.
• 55:43
  I know. No, now I have this one.
• 55:45
  Now this one's on my TBR list again I have not read it but I
• 55:49
  know it. What is it?
• 55:51
  But it is it is. From what I gather it's enemies
• 55:54
  and lovers but I think this just came they she re released them
• 55:58
  maybe because they went traditional or something.
• 56:00
  This is the City of Gods and Monsters by Kayla Edwards City.
• 56:04
  Yes, I think she has given a deal.
• 56:06
  Or. Something with it re released
• 56:08
  Yeah I. Think I have.
• 56:10
  Been audible. I need to read it.
• 56:11
  Because it's the House of Devil's novel, it's book 1, and
• 56:17
  she's a human struggling to survive in a city that caters to
• 56:20
  the needs of vampires, werewolves, witches, and other
• 56:23
  supernatural creatures. She always assumed her life
• 56:26
  would remain simple, predictable, and as safe as her
• 56:29
  world would allow until she barely escapes abductions by the
• 56:34
  hands of the Dark Slayers. What are those?
• 56:37
  I'm excited to find out what that is.
• 56:39
  Oh it says it's a supernatural bounty hunters that pose Oh no,
• 56:42
  that possess the site. It says a magical tracking
• 56:46
  ability that allows them to see a person's aura.
• 56:49
  So oh, I wonder if it's one of those people.
• 56:52
  Oh maybe that's who she's got an enemies to lovers with bounty
• 56:56
  hunter. Maybe I'm going to see what it
• 56:58
  says it says. Will says the abductors are
• 57:01
  demanding ransom, I guess for her life in exchange for her
• 57:05
  friend's safe return. This is Lauren Will do whatever
• 57:09
  it takes to get her friend back, even if it means accepting help.
• 57:13
  OK, This must be our enemy here from Darien Castle, the leader
• 57:18
  of the Seven Devils, the most feared draw.
• 57:22
  OK, Dark slaying circle in the city.
• 57:24
  So he is a bounty hunter. OK, so he's really grumpy.
• 57:27
  He sounds grumpy and I love grumpy enemies lovers.
• 57:31
  But he's oh, it sounds interesting.
• 57:33
  I've I know I've heard people talk about that name, his name
• 57:37
  Darien castles, and they say he's delightful.
• 57:40
  So, so enemies to lovers. And this is a thick bitch.
• 57:44
  Look at that one. And I think all of them are
• 57:48
  chunky bar likes like this. You know, I love a thick book,
• 57:52
  but that again, you haven't read it.
• 57:54
  If you've read it, let us know. I'm assuming it's a enemies
• 57:57
  delivers because from the sounds of it, but it does sound really
• 58:00
  good. All right, what do you got next,
• 58:02
  lady? Well, OK, so I said Daggermouth.
• 58:05
  That's dystopian fantasy Poison daughter between Tides and
• 58:10
  Thunder. OK, number one would probably be
• 58:14
  Spark of the Ever Flame by Penncull in her whole series.
• 58:18
  And the slow people talk about the slow burn in this series and
• 58:24
  is a very slow burn and it's because they're enemies, like
• 58:30
  true enemies and they're trying to get to the lovers part And
• 58:34
  that lovers part just like constantly gets interrupted and
• 58:39
  some other fatal thing happens. And I mean, we know that they
• 58:44
  love each other like in their own way.
• 58:47
  So I'm really interested to see what book 4 becomes of these
• 58:51
  love interest that we have because is it an attraction?
• 58:55
  Is it a deep love? Is it a convenience lovers or is
• 59:01
  it going to be happily ever after?
• 59:04
  I don't know she just teased something on IG today about
• 59:09
  Googling. Do you have to have a happily
• 59:11
  ever after in a romanticy? Can you kill off main
• 59:14
  characters? I was like OMG because the third
• 59:18
  book has a huge clueless hanger where DM?
• 59:22
  And you've been waiting How long now?
• 59:24
  2 1/2 years. Well, like how you know specific
• 59:28
  2 1/2 years that? I can remember and when and.
• 59:31
  When now has she announced the actual date of when?
• 59:34
  This September. September ain't too far.
• 59:37
  Then you'll have your answers. Yeah, I just know September, try
• 59:41
  not to get too excited before that because I should be getting
• 59:44
  the ARC for it because I signed up for ARC 2 1/2 years ago, so I
• 59:48
  should be getting the book hopefully sooner later.
• 59:51
  I don't know if she's sending out physical ones.
• 59:53
  I mean, I'd be happy just to read it on the Kindle, yeah.
• 59:57
  You need an answer. And I'll have time to read it on
• 59:59
  my Kindle, but I will probably have to ignore the children to.
• 1:00:03
  Do you know they do have a thing that you can put on your Kindle
• 1:00:07
  where it will read to you? So you don't have to have it's
• 1:00:11
  they have a thing that you can do and it'll read your ball.
• 1:00:13
  Like that? How did I not know about that?
• 1:00:16
  I have heard about people saying that if you have the Kindle app
• 1:00:20
  you can do. I think because it's for like if
• 1:00:24
  you're blind and you have a book.
• 1:00:25
  And it will read to. You and it'll read to you.
• 1:00:29
  I have looked for the settings for that and I can't find it, so
• 1:00:33
  I'll have to do some deep diving in that and see what that's.
• 1:00:37
  Because that might be a positive for you since you need to listen
• 1:00:40
  to them. Yeah, that would help.
• 1:00:41
  Right now my port arc list some authors aren't getting reviews
• 1:00:48
  on time. I'm sorry, I tried, it happens.
• 1:00:52
  You know. Yeah, This is why kids in their
• 1:00:54
  poop. Sorry.
• 1:00:58
  Little man, little man, someday will be.
• 1:01:00
  I don't know. I don't because my middle one
• 1:01:02
  did all this stuff and I'll tell him that I thought he would be
• 1:01:04
  horrified about it as he got older when I told him.
• 1:01:08
  No, he just. It's like, yeah, stop, Mom.
• 1:01:11
  It's because it's a boy. Maybe if he would have been a
• 1:01:13
  girl and I said it would be more like horrific.
• 1:01:15
  Kind of thing. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:01:18
  I was a little little girl that lived out.
• 1:01:20
  We had like a desert in our backyard and my brother was cool
• 1:01:24
  and he could pee on anthills. So what did I do?
• 1:01:26
  I tried to pull down my pants and pee on anthills and I got
• 1:01:29
  bit very badly by these ants because I had to get closer to
• 1:01:34
  the anthill to pee. Oh yeah, get to squats.
• 1:01:38
  So I mean, that could be embarrassing or, you know, I
• 1:01:41
  learned my lesson, so. You learned your lesson.
• 1:01:44
  I bet you didn't pee on anything after that like that.
• 1:01:46
  Didn't you? Nope, learned I can't pee on
• 1:01:48
  things outside behind a bunch. Unless it's behind a I remember
• 1:01:54
  this is when I was 6. My mom was somewhere, I don't
• 1:01:58
  know remember where she went, but my dad was supposed to be
• 1:02:00
  watching me. My dad was watching TV.
• 1:02:03
  Do you think in the 80s he was paying attention to what I was
• 1:02:05
  doing? Absolutely not.
• 1:02:07
  He was just an adult on premise. He was just on the premise.
• 1:02:10
  Now I had my friend that was my neighbor that lived through the
• 1:02:13
  woods for me. He was 6 and came by himself to
• 1:02:17
  our house. I couldn't imagine through the
• 1:02:18
  woods. In the day, man, back in the
• 1:02:20
  day, that's that's what we did. We just walked outside to our
• 1:02:23
  neighbor's house and played through the woods though.
• 1:02:26
  And that and but he came over and I still remember because
• 1:02:29
  this always sticks in my mind because I remember we were, I
• 1:02:32
  had a little swimming pool and we were playing and then I
• 1:02:35
  remember we went out in the garage because I don't remember
• 1:02:38
  if we were getting changed, like why would we get changed?
• 1:02:41
  But then again, we were 6. And I remember he told me to
• 1:02:43
  look under the car because he was on the other side of the
• 1:02:46
  car. And that's when he showed me
• 1:02:48
  his, his little tally whacker. And we were six.
• 1:02:52
  And I remember that. And I remember my mom found out.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah. Because she came home not long
• 1:02:56
  after because I was like, oh, do you show me?
• 1:02:57
  And I remember she told him and she made him go home.
• 1:03:00
  He wasn't allowed to come play anymore since he showed his
• 1:03:03
  tally whacker. Oh my God.
• 1:03:06
  But I remember that. But that was something.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah. Oh, no, this is, this is.
• 1:03:09
  Now, again, this is a book that I have not read.
• 1:03:14
  Now. I've not read this.
• 1:03:15
  This is the book of Azrael. Now this is.
• 1:03:18
  I'm told this is an enemies to lovers as well.
• 1:03:20
  Have you read this one yet? No, and I have the graphic
• 1:03:23
  audio. I try to just start that
• 1:03:24
  actually before this other one and it's intense.
• 1:03:29
  I could not quite get into it, so I might have to like.
• 1:03:33
  Dark is it? No, it just like starts off like
• 1:03:35
  really wild, like the first chapter starts off like super
• 1:03:40
  like in your face wild. So I was kind of taken aback for
• 1:03:46
  a minute there and I have not had a lot of time to concentrate
• 1:03:49
  on things like that like I would, I kind of needed like a
• 1:03:52
  book that started a little more gradual.
• 1:03:54
  So I'm like, I'll put that on the back burner for another
• 1:03:57
  couple days. This one went this went
• 1:03:59
  traditional because this is the indie right here, but I believe
• 1:04:02
  she went traditional. But it says here, it says for
• 1:04:05
  1000 years after the Gods War, the ether world, Ether world,
• 1:04:10
  because you know how I pronounce things, has known peace, but
• 1:04:13
  soon that too will come or will change.
• 1:04:16
  An old enemy driven by revenge slowly builds an army behind the
• 1:04:22
  scenes. Temples are being ransacked in
• 1:04:24
  search of an item long lost and enemies the dawn of Oh and the
• 1:04:30
  enemies since the dawn of time must put aside their differences
• 1:04:35
  if they because remember I am older and I have to put pulled
• 1:04:38
  in socks I can't see they have a hope for survival.
• 1:04:41
  So I mean it's talking about enemies so people must have to
• 1:04:44
  get together. I don't know, it looks really
• 1:04:46
  good but I believe but like I think Chelsea was talking about
• 1:04:51
  this. Wasn't she like an ARC reader
• 1:04:54
  for it even though the books are already out?
• 1:04:55
  Because I guess because they were released?
• 1:04:57
  Well, I think she came out with the book.
• 1:04:59
  Three Maybe it was a brand new book.
• 1:05:02
  After all her publishing, it's kind of like LJ Andrews, like
• 1:05:06
  she's had stolen Crown like in her editing and ready to go.
• 1:05:13
  And then she got republished with the Eversee series.
• 1:05:16
  So then we had to wait for that to come out before she can
• 1:05:19
  publish the stolen crowns. So I think that's what's going
• 1:05:21
  on with Amber is like her same trad.
• 1:05:25
  She had to republish in the trad and then now she's come out with
• 1:05:30
  the another sequel to it. I think it's a sequel, not a
• 1:05:33
  prequel. We'd have to ask Chelsea because
• 1:05:36
  she is reading it and. I have not read the series yet,
• 1:05:39
  but, but from whatever all different people I've gathered,
• 1:05:43
  they said this is this is really a a good, really good.
• 1:05:46
  Yeah. So I.
• 1:05:47
  Want to read it so bad That's why I bought the graphic audio.
• 1:05:51
  I just need a minute to like sit down and like process it.
• 1:05:56
  One day now, now let's see Now we have now this one here.
• 1:06:00
  You didn't, you didn't read this one, or did you try to read this
• 1:06:04
  one? Or you read something different
• 1:06:05
  by her? Oh no I I read Till Death by
• 1:06:07
  Miranda and I did not enjoy the FMC in that one so I DNF D it
• 1:06:15
  now. This is This is the unmarked
• 1:06:17
  witch. This is book.
• 1:06:18
  One, I haven't read that series by her.
• 1:06:21
  Now from to again, like what I've I've been told that it is
• 1:06:26
  Oh, actually, I wrote myself notes and I didn't.
• 1:06:28
  I would have said I wrote it. This is rival covens and a witch
• 1:06:31
  hunter dynamic is in this one. So the romance is a literal
• 1:06:36
  betrayal of their people. That's good because that could
• 1:06:40
  have so many like Bass Story, you know, like, yeah, a lot of
• 1:06:46
  untruths to unravel. Since we were talking, since I
• 1:06:50
  noticed my notes with this, I'll tell you this is OK.
• 1:06:53
  This is the FMC who is literal, is a literal world ending
• 1:06:58
  monster, OK, versus the main male character who is a
• 1:07:03
  celestial God. So they are on opposite sides of
• 1:07:06
  the cosmic world. OK, So no, so no
• 1:07:11
  misunderstandings here. They're pure lethal friction
• 1:07:14
  between them. OK, so that's what that one is.
• 1:07:16
  And then this one here, go back to my notes.
• 1:07:19
  This one here. This is an urban fantasy that
• 1:07:22
  starts with the bounty hunter because like we read the bounty
• 1:07:24
  hunter literally paid to hunt down the human female main
• 1:07:27
  character. She is his mark and but he's
• 1:07:31
  maybe it's like AI can fix him kind of myth is dismantled.
• 1:07:34
  So there's that one. And then what did I say about
• 1:07:37
  this? Is the feather so vicious?
• 1:07:39
  This is a red flag anthem. Dark, visceral story of a
• 1:07:42
  Kingdom conquered. The female main character is a
• 1:07:45
  prize of the war. OK, so that's how the Raven guys
• 1:07:48
  get them. It's dark, it's heavy, it's
• 1:07:51
  exactly Pearl clutters. I wrote this like a couple weeks
• 1:07:55
  ago and I don't remember what I wrote.
• 1:07:57
  Isn't that terrible? And then of course, the Kingdom
• 1:08:00
  of Silent Sorrows, the one I'm reading currently, that is
• 1:08:02
  Witch's Forbidden Magic rival factions.
• 1:08:05
  It's Moody, high stakes fits, you know, with our coven vibes
• 1:08:09
  that we got going on here. But those are those are the ones
• 1:08:12
  I haven't read, but you have some listed here.
• 1:08:14
  But you and I both have read. Yeah.
• 1:08:16
  So what do you think about Melissa K Rourke and The Reign
• 1:08:21
  of Shadows and Ending? What do you think of that one?
• 1:08:24
  Did you say that's true or would you just say it's kind of more
• 1:08:27
  of an inconvenience? I think she really does not like
• 1:08:31
  him. She because she wanted to go
• 1:08:33
  about her own way and do her own thing.
• 1:08:37
  And but for him it was a convenience thing because he had
• 1:08:40
  to do what he was told. But I think he was just going to
• 1:08:43
  make her do whatever he wanted no matter what because he's he's
• 1:08:47
  about control. Very controlled, very OCD with
• 1:08:52
  his timeline of and how things are supposed to be done.
• 1:08:56
  Absolutely, because everybody's morally Gray in this book.
• 1:09:00
  Nobody is like the good guy. Everybody is, you know, I don't
• 1:09:05
  want to say awful, I don't want to say that.
• 1:09:07
  But they're all very dark. They're all in that category.
• 1:09:11
  Own agendas and secrets and wants and needs and things like
• 1:09:16
  that. So they do try to work together,
• 1:09:20
  right? And they try.
• 1:09:22
  I wouldn't say it's miscommunication, but they
• 1:09:24
  definitely have a hard time trusting.
• 1:09:27
  So they're not communicating everything upfront, which
• 1:09:32
  becomes, you know, a lot of turmoil and people kind of
• 1:09:36
  betraying or just like, not. She feels he.
• 1:09:39
  Lies like she feels he lies to her.
• 1:09:42
  But I mean, could you? Are you really saying that she's
• 1:09:45
  not truthfully either? So yes, it is very back and
• 1:09:50
  forth like that. However, I would not say that's
• 1:09:53
  true enemies to lovers. I would call that like rivals to
• 1:09:57
  lovers on my in my head because they're more rivals where she
• 1:10:02
  doesn't like what he stands for and what he is and what he does
• 1:10:05
  in society. And so she has a problem with
• 1:10:08
  that. But it's not like a you're my
• 1:10:11
  enemy and I'm going to kill you because you've taken everything
• 1:10:17
  from me and you must die to make my vengeance.
• 1:10:22
  But now I'm excited. But now, like as the books go
• 1:10:26
  on, you know, you have this one and then book 2.
• 1:10:30
  And because again, they're all, they're all not on the up and up
• 1:10:34
  with each other. They're not all wonderful
• 1:10:37
  people, right? I'd say even like book three.
• 1:10:41
  I mean, they're they're very much enemies.
• 1:10:43
  Because she does things that she's not supposed to do and
• 1:10:46
  goes to other sides and stuff because she has her own agenda
• 1:10:50
  and she's in, in a way, a lot. I get mad at her because she's
• 1:10:54
  very spoiled in a lot of ways. I'm not saying she was treated
• 1:10:57
  ready. She's she's not a Princess.
• 1:10:59
  I'm not saying that kind of vibe.
• 1:11:01
  She's just very out for her own agenda and she doesn't.
• 1:11:06
  She's inconsiderate in a lot of ways.
• 1:11:08
  And I'm not saying that Theon needs to have to be that because
• 1:11:12
  he's not that great either. Nope.
• 1:11:15
  But. She's like you said, Brady and
• 1:11:18
  and she's just, she does a a lot of things.
• 1:11:21
  If she wouldn't have done, they could have got to the point
• 1:11:24
  where they needed to be sooner. Yes, yeah.
• 1:11:26
  But but she put up roadblocks that she did not need to do.
• 1:11:31
  Yeah, and she was doing a lot of stuff behind their back that was
• 1:11:34
  causing more problems. Yes, and then young dad also was
• 1:11:41
  creating more problems and you know, I feel like was like the
• 1:11:45
  middle child and all. Of this it's very good worth.
• 1:11:50
  Between his dad and Tessa and like trying to play like the
• 1:11:55
  mediator. But it's very good if, if, if
• 1:11:59
  any of you, if you have not read the legacy series, it is one of
• 1:12:03
  my absolute top series of all time.
• 1:12:05
  I love. Luca And then like book 3 and 4
• 1:12:09
  you get a lot more Luca and his like banter is delicious and so
• 1:12:14
  fun. Theon has that like darker
• 1:12:16
  energy. I still feel like we did not
• 1:12:19
  ever really get to see his true powers like I feel like.
• 1:12:22
  Oh no. They were never truly described
• 1:12:25
  in like how much damage that guy could be especially.
• 1:12:29
  To what he becomes as you get to the end and we have not seen
• 1:12:34
  what that. Will.
• 1:12:36
  Power because because they do like at the end, they do their
• 1:12:39
  their thing there, but that's still within him.
• 1:12:42
  That's still him. So I think, I don't know.
• 1:12:44
  I think she could show even like she has lady of darkness and now
• 1:12:49
  she has tortured. Is it tortured souls?
• 1:12:51
  Is that that's the duology. They're all interconnected in
• 1:12:55
  the in the world, but I could see her.
• 1:12:59
  I don't know she'll ever revisit the same people from legacy.
• 1:13:02
  I would love it and see, you know, now years later kind of
• 1:13:06
  thing and see where it's at. But I I agree with you in that
• 1:13:09
  because it it is kind of an enemies to lovers, but yet it
• 1:13:12
  has that other because it it really changed.
• 1:13:14
  It's not over the whole entire series, it's but you can say
• 1:13:19
  that kind of in the beginning of the Reign of Shadows and
• 1:13:23
  endings. And even like the lovers part of
• 1:13:26
  it, I feel is more agenda than it is lovers at all.
• 1:13:32
  They have a lot of anything hate, like sex kind of stuff.
• 1:13:36
  Yeah, a lot of. It it's like a relationship of
• 1:13:40
  inconvenience for convenience back to inconvenience.
• 1:13:45
  There's a. Lot of like rivalry too of like
• 1:13:48
  I'm better than you and I'm going to outwit you and I so
• 1:13:51
  like you do get that like enemies feel with the banter and
• 1:13:54
  the the like back and forth between them like trying to
• 1:13:58
  outdo each other. So you do get that kind of like
• 1:14:02
  feel of enemies, but otherwise it's.
• 1:14:04
  They do have a lot of hate sex. Though true, like it's not
• 1:14:07
  really a true enemies to lovers. But don't you agree though?
• 1:14:12
  But listeners, let us know what you think.
• 1:14:15
  But you do have to agree, don't you, though, that they have a
• 1:14:18
  tremendous amount of hate sex when they do?
• 1:14:20
  They do. They do, but I don't remember a
• 1:14:23
  lot of scenes of it. I remember it towards the end.
• 1:14:26
  Oh, you get towards the. The further you get into the
• 1:14:30
  series, the more there is. There is some in this one
• 1:14:34
  because of the bond they have happening and it's like they
• 1:14:37
  it's like it's no, there's a lot on that one and there's.
• 1:14:41
  Some really good ones, not so much I feel like, not so much,
• 1:14:44
  no. And plus you gotta remember in
• 1:14:47
  the as the series goes on, there's a time period where
• 1:14:49
  they're not her and together aren't together because of
• 1:14:53
  things of her choices. So like, right, OK, let's say
• 1:14:56
  it's rivals to Haiti. Hating lovers.
• 1:14:59
  Like hate lovers, back to enemies, back to rivals, back to
• 1:15:06
  force proximity working together for a convenience trope.
• 1:15:11
  But now would you? I would classify the end though
• 1:15:13
  as as pure lovers though at that point.
• 1:15:16
  Then at the end after it's all said and done and some some
• 1:15:21
  added elements will put it. Because even with Luca I would
• 1:15:27
  say like well not even they are really enemies to lovers with
• 1:15:32
  Luca. Oh there's some enemy cuz don't
• 1:15:34
  you remember Cuz she cuz he does betrayal to him.
• 1:15:39
  Yeah, so. He is.
• 1:15:41
  He is pissed with her. That's.
• 1:15:42
  True. OK so I would say Enemies to
• 1:15:44
  Lovers book 4 with Luca. Oh, it's so good.
• 1:15:50
  Again, please, please go out. And again, it's one of my
• 1:15:54
  absolute top, top series. Now, this is another one that
• 1:15:58
  you and I have both read and we we have talked about this a
• 1:16:01
  million times. It's the serpent and the wings
• 1:16:04
  tonight. That's true.
• 1:16:05
  That's a true enemies lovers till the very end.
• 1:16:09
  Like even when they're like, I have feelings for you, I still
• 1:16:13
  don't know. Oh, the end of this particular
• 1:16:17
  book I did not see what happened.
• 1:16:22
  Rent free. Rent free right here.
• 1:16:24
  Right here at the end of this book, I did not see it coming.
• 1:16:28
  It's like one of those moments and you're like, it leaves you
• 1:16:31
  with your mouth open because you do not see that coming.
• 1:16:33
  What happens? And it is so good.
• 1:16:36
  And so then you you're LED into book 2, which is because this is
• 1:16:39
  a duet. It's still such an enemies to
• 1:16:44
  lovers through the through that. And it's it's so good.
• 1:16:47
  So if, if, if if you have not read anything by Chris Broadbent
• 1:16:52
  or read this series, go out and get it.
• 1:16:55
  It is absolutely amazing. She writes the enemies to lovers
• 1:17:01
  so well. She has a novella, 6 Scorch
• 1:17:05
  Roses. Yeah, that's also a good one.
• 1:17:07
  Because it's good and it's kind of like an enemies to love
• 1:17:10
  because you know, you have this, this woman and she goes because
• 1:17:14
  she's trying to find a cure. Because people are basically
• 1:17:17
  turning to dust. It's very and like grumpy
• 1:17:20
  Sunshine, like she she's fan of her character is really
• 1:17:24
  Sunshine. No, she's very academic.
• 1:17:28
  Yes, she's very serious and very academic like you have.
• 1:17:32
  You don't have fun joking times with her.
• 1:17:35
  She's right. She's like that.
• 1:17:38
  And and he's very, he's ancient and he's a vampire and she's
• 1:17:43
  trying to find this cure for her people because people are
• 1:17:48
  turning to dust. They're just disintegrating and
• 1:17:51
  and she's researching and stuff with him and she makes a deal
• 1:17:55
  with him and she's going to bring him 6 roses for every time
• 1:18:00
  she came to they do something. For him, yeah.
• 1:18:04
  She was taking his blood or whatever it is because she's
• 1:18:06
  trying, she's researching, remember she's academic and and
• 1:18:10
  that's what she told him she would give him.
• 1:18:12
  And it's it's very good because one of the scenes when she goes
• 1:18:15
  there and she goes to see him, I don't remember if it's the first
• 1:18:18
  time. Would you say that that's
• 1:18:20
  enemies though? I to me, that's just kind of
• 1:18:22
  grumpy sunshine like to love. It's not quite like you're a
• 1:18:27
  faux enemy. It's kind of more of like you're
• 1:18:30
  a vampire and I'm scared of you and my society tells me I should
• 1:18:33
  not trust you because you're a vampire and you're, you know,
• 1:18:37
  not welcome. So I mean, he's like she's, but
• 1:18:42
  she's very with him. I don't know.
• 1:18:44
  Well, she's very goody, 2 shoes kind of woman, you know,
• 1:18:47
  academic. She's never.
• 1:18:49
  Going against the grain. Yeah, just going to do what she
• 1:18:53
  does to get what she needs from him is something against the
• 1:18:58
  grain because I mean, if her people knew.
• 1:19:00
  This is 6. This is 6 Scorched roses.
• 1:19:03
  We're talking about the novella. This is the novella after.
• 1:19:06
  These two. Yeah, after you read this, you
• 1:19:10
  read the scar. The star cursed King was in it.
• 1:19:15
  No, it's the ashes and the star cursed.
• 1:19:16
  King Ashes, Yeah. When you read that, then you
• 1:19:19
  read 6 scorch roses. But please read 6 scorch roses
• 1:19:22
  before you read, before you read the ashes, because it goes in
• 1:19:28
  between. So read.
• 1:19:29
  This one I think I wouldn't do that.
• 1:19:31
  Well, you get their back story because you see them in Ashes
• 1:19:36
  because that's when they appear very briefly, but you understand
• 1:19:40
  who they are. You can be there.
• 1:19:43
  Yeah, no, my opinion though, in Ashes.
• 1:19:46
  No mention, but it explains why you, explains why they're there,
• 1:19:51
  who she is. Because otherwise you wouldn't
• 1:19:54
  have known she was who she was. Yeah, because I can't.
• 1:19:56
  Tell you I read it. I read it after the duology and.
• 1:20:02
  I was fine with the duology without reading the novella
• 1:20:05
  between. I liked it because they're not
• 1:20:07
  the big. Characters, yeah, I'm sure if
• 1:20:09
  you saw them in the duology you were like, Oh yeah, I know those
• 1:20:12
  people and what they're there for and stuff like that, whereas
• 1:20:15
  I was just. You saw it as like, you got to
• 1:20:17
  see, like you see, and then you got to see their story.
• 1:20:21
  It was neat because I read it. I knew their story.
• 1:20:24
  So then when they did show up in it, I already knew who they
• 1:20:28
  were. Yeah, You know, And it gave a
• 1:20:30
  little different context, I guess, for me.
• 1:20:32
  True, but I do again, I love her stuff.
• 1:20:37
  I I love Carissa Broadbent. I love how she writes.
• 1:20:40
  She's amazing. She's also the one that did
• 1:20:42
  daughter of no worlds. I believe.
• 1:20:44
  I don't know, I believe that could possibly be it enemy.
• 1:20:47
  Still, I have them sitting on my shelf.
• 1:20:48
  I have not read them yet, but they're that is supposed to be
• 1:20:52
  an amazing trilogy and that just went trad that just went trad
• 1:20:57
  and over a while ago last. Year.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah, because it two years, oh, last year, last year they came
• 1:21:03
  out because two of them came out and the the third book I think I
• 1:21:07
  just got in March, it came out. But yeah, that's what is.
• 1:21:12
  But it isn't completed. Trilogy if anyone wants to read
• 1:21:15
  that. Daughters of no world.
• 1:21:16
  This one I have not read yet. It is on my shelf.
• 1:21:19
  You have read it. You are a giant fan of this and
• 1:21:22
  you said this is definitely enemies to lovers.
• 1:21:25
  This is the Ever King by LJ Andrews.
• 1:21:29
  My files in my head here. OK, so he goes, he kidnaps her
• 1:21:34
  and their families are rivals from like a war back in the day
• 1:21:38
  between their people and they actually like, helped each
• 1:21:40
  other. But Eric's dad, Eric
• 1:21:42
  Bloodsinger, his dad's a total douchebag and like betrayed
• 1:21:47
  lives Kingdom and her people and her dad actually.
• 1:21:51
  And you can find all that in her Bridge King, Bridge of Kingdoms
• 1:21:59
  series. I can never say it right.
• 1:22:01
  It's Broken Kingdoms. Broken Kingdoms, yes.
• 1:22:04
  Bridge Kingdoms is a different series, yes.
• 1:22:07
  Yes. And so you get a lot of contacts
• 1:22:11
  with those, but you don't have to read those before ever king.
• 1:22:14
  But yeah, so he's like a ruthless, I call him a Fae
• 1:22:18
  pirate, Norse pirate, because they're all very like Norse
• 1:22:22
  background Viking kind of. And so he's a Viking Faye pirate
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  to me. He's the one that does bones,
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  doesn't he? Yes.
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  So he yes. So he like someone talked wrong
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  to live about something and he was like, that's disrespectful
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  to me and my wife and especially my wife.
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  So know what I think he he was like send them, send them to the
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  dungeon. I can't remember if he does it
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  like in front of everyone or if it's like later on he comes with
• 1:22:54
  a necklace that are the bones of this person that disrespected
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  her. And so she wears the guy's
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  bones, as in like fuck you, if you disrespect me, I will make
• 1:23:04
  you out of jewelry. There we go.
• 1:23:07
  But anyways, the ever king, yes, definitely he kidnaps her, the
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  rival kingdoms, rival families, and she just thinks of him as
• 1:23:18
  this like really bad person. And it takes a while for them to
• 1:23:24
  like, you know, work together, trust each other, those kinds of
• 1:23:29
  things. Is there a lot of, like, back
• 1:23:32
  and forth trying to kill each other?
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  I don't remember that. I don't remember them, like,
• 1:23:38
  trying to do that. But there is a lot of, like,
• 1:23:41
  defiance from Liv. And she's very like, you know,
• 1:23:46
  stop talking to me that way, and you're an asshole.
• 1:23:49
  And so the banter is definitely there.
• 1:23:52
  She's a very witty person and cunning in her own way.
• 1:23:57
  And I think she tries to escape a few times.
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  OK, so that's fun. See, I'm excited to read that.
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  I have, because that went traditional and all three came
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  out. And The Stolen Crown comes out
• 1:24:10
  in October. Was October.
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  Yeah. And so that's exciting.
• 1:24:16
  LJ also has broken souls and bones duology that's completed.
• 1:24:21
  And that's also a true, I would say a true enemies to lovers
• 1:24:27
  where they don't even know it. They just hate each other.
• 1:24:30
  And then they give, they get more reasons to hate each other.
• 1:24:35
  It's very cool. And she does a great job with
• 1:24:37
  true enemies to lovers because like when we had her on the
• 1:24:41
  podcast, she was like, I like an MMC who's a villain and will do
• 1:24:45
  the villainous things he talks about and says he will.
• 1:24:48
  So that would be like Eric Bloodsinger and what's his name,
• 1:24:52
  Rourke and broken souls and bones and that like she does
• 1:24:58
  such a great job with true enemies of lovers, but not like
• 1:25:02
  lengthening out like you have the yearning, you have the
• 1:25:05
  twists and the banter and all that stuff.
• 1:25:08
  But she's I wouldn't say she's quick to the lovers part, but
• 1:25:12
  she's good at getting them to the lovers prior to like the big
• 1:25:17
  like what like reveals at the end, like you get and you get
• 1:25:24
  lovers at least by like 60% into the book.
• 1:25:28
  Okay, so you're not like waiting till the very, very end or
• 1:25:31
  anything like that, like? She's a.
• 1:25:33
  Gradual story to the lovers. And then there's always like
• 1:25:35
  something that like kind of at the end and then like the last
• 1:25:39
  like 20% of her book is like full of actions as well with
• 1:25:44
  like. LJ said that when we were
• 1:25:46
  talking to her, you know, with her books, and that she said
• 1:25:50
  she's not going to do that. You don't get that.
• 1:25:54
  You know what I mean? Right.
• 1:25:55
  Yeah. She.
• 1:25:56
  So you are she. Likes to get them to lovers,
• 1:25:59
  yes? Yeah, I really like her.
• 1:26:01
  She was super fun when she was on the podcast.
• 1:26:03
  I know I enjoyed her. She's in Hawaii right now.
• 1:26:06
  So cool. She's so fun.
• 1:26:08
  She if I could, like, get to know her a little bit more and
• 1:26:11
  like, hang out on a ranch, I think we could be really good
• 1:26:15
  friends. Oh yeah.
• 1:26:17
  Well, she's like, I like her because she's very down to earth
• 1:26:20
  and she's very, she's just a very fun person.
• 1:26:23
  To talk to, like, yeah. Like, you know, when she came on
• 1:26:26
  the podcast, you know, and she just, she had fun with us and
• 1:26:30
  she, it didn't matter because again, we go off on tangents and
• 1:26:33
  we talked about all kinds of things because that's what makes
• 1:26:36
  U.S. special. But she went right along in the
• 1:26:40
  tangents with us and that's what that was what was fun.
• 1:26:44
  And she really, she was super fun.
• 1:26:46
  That's I really like her eye. Now the other couple, one that
• 1:26:48
  you know, we want to do as I mentioned, of course, is Blood
• 1:26:51
  and Steel by Helen Schrur. That definitely is a enemies to
• 1:26:55
  lovers kind of thing. But it's it isn't enemies to
• 1:26:58
  lovers, but there's a whole lot of switching back and forth
• 1:27:00
  between enemies. Lovers to enemies to lovers to
• 1:27:03
  enemies all. Through.
• 1:27:05
  And that's another one that. There's a lot of drama.
• 1:27:09
  There's, there's, there's a moment at the end of I can't
• 1:27:12
  remember, is that book 2 at the end of it?
• 1:27:13
  And it shocked me because I did not see that coming either.
• 1:27:18
  That one, I highly suggest it. I mean, I have not read the
• 1:27:22
  Ashes at Desmar yet. I don't know if we should
• 1:27:25
  consider that one an enemies to lovers.
• 1:27:29
  That's more. She liked him from the
• 1:27:30
  beginning. Yeah, like they just have like
• 1:27:33
  really good banter and it's where they're from different
• 1:27:38
  sides of things. So they feel like they they
• 1:27:40
  wouldn't go well together. So they don't.
• 1:27:43
  They like push each other away constantly, but it's like, you
• 1:27:45
  know, just get together, just just get together.
• 1:27:48
  Like everyone's like, finally. But I I highly recommend blood
• 1:27:53
  and steal that I read that series.
• 1:27:55
  Also if you when you do read that there is the novella
• 1:27:59
  Slaying the Vampire. No not not the empire slaying
• 1:28:02
  the shadow Prince. That's what it is.
• 1:28:04
  Shadow Prince. That's right, Shadow Prince.
• 1:28:07
  I recommend it after book 2 because then you understand who
• 1:28:13
  this person is, the shadow Prince.
• 1:28:15
  You don't find him until the end of book three technically.
• 1:28:19
  So don't you have to know who he is at all technically because he
• 1:28:25
  is introduced in book 4 like he's.
• 1:28:28
  You see more about who he is, yes?
• 1:28:30
  Three, you know who he is because he's talked about
• 1:28:32
  throughout the whole series. So when we're met with him at
• 1:28:36
  the end of book 3, going into four, you finally get his
• 1:28:41
  background. Like she doesn't leave you
• 1:28:42
  hanging. Like you don't have to read that
• 1:28:44
  book. But it is also a very great book
• 1:28:47
  and tells you a lot more about Telomere and his story and why
• 1:28:53
  he's missing this whole time. So yeah, pretty cool.
• 1:28:56
  Highly recommend. Absolutely.
• 1:28:57
  I hope maybe after the beginning of the year I'm going to reach
• 1:29:01
  out again because Helen is traveling a whole lot and she's
• 1:29:04
  doing her. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:06
  Because she has her new book that's coming out in September
• 1:29:11
  and I think I have it pre-ordered too.
• 1:29:13
  And it's supposed because again, I love her writing.
• 1:29:16
  I love the way she writes, so she's one of my instant by
• 1:29:20
  authors as well. But I'm hoping maybe we can have
• 1:29:24
  her come on the podcast. Yeah, maybe in the next the
• 1:29:27
  beginning of next year. But that is definitely now.
• 1:29:31
  You have a metal Slinger, you said by Rachel Snyder.
• 1:29:35
  Now I have not. Now.
• 1:29:36
  Book 2 comes out this month, correct?
• 1:29:38
  This month. Or it's either this month, or
• 1:29:41
  it's June. It's June.
• 1:29:44
  I don't know. Did it come out or did it get
• 1:29:47
  delayed? Maybe, I don't know.
• 1:29:49
  We'll have to look. What's it called?
• 1:29:50
  Light wielder. Light wielder?
• 1:29:53
  Because it's a duology, if I remember correctly.
• 1:29:57
  Date, Release date. OK, so it is June.
• 1:30:02
  OK, I knew it was soon, so you'll have your.
• 1:30:06
  Audio book, so it'll come here. You'll have your cliffhanger,
• 1:30:08
  you'll have your cliffhanger, and you'll know what's
• 1:30:11
  happening. That book starts because you got
• 1:30:14
  the 1st chapter at the end of book 1 because she went trad,
• 1:30:19
  and this book starts not from the end of that.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, that's right. You said it it.
• 1:30:26
  Starts to know what happens after the cliffhanger and you
• 1:30:30
  start somewhere like 20 years later and they're in war or
• 1:30:35
  something like that. I don't.
• 1:30:37
  I just remember being like what the fuck?
• 1:30:40
  I so much to know. I see.
• 1:30:43
  I have, I have metal Slinger. It's sitting up on my shelf.
• 1:30:46
  So I'm, I'm waiting until because this is a duology.
• 1:30:49
  So I'm waiting when book 2 comes out and then I'll, I'll read
• 1:30:53
  them. I like when I can get all of
• 1:30:55
  them at one time because again, I don't always remember 100%,
• 1:31:01
  but I I want to read that one too.
• 1:31:02
  But you said that's a very good, a very good series.
• 1:31:06
  And then the other one that you have listed, you said Bridge
• 1:31:09
  Kingdom because there it is Bridge Kingdom by Danielle
• 1:31:12
  Jensen. Yes.
• 1:31:13
  Bridge that's like A7. Book series, right Well, yes,
• 1:31:16
  but it's kind of like one of those like LJ where it is
• 1:31:21
  interconnected. It's like the same world, but
• 1:31:22
  you have like one couple and then another couple for two
• 1:31:25
  books and another couple. And so I read the first two
• 1:31:29
  books, which is bridge Kingdom and like traitorous queen, I
• 1:31:33
  think is the other one and that is like she's an assassin there
• 1:31:38
  to like off him and he doesn't really trust her and also tries
• 1:31:43
  to like get her into some trouble to where it looks like
• 1:31:48
  he didn't kill her situations and stuff like that.
• 1:31:53
  So they're at each other's throats most of the time and
• 1:31:57
  even when they kind of get together, you're kind of like
• 1:31:59
  finally, but then there's a lot more that happens.
• 1:32:03
  I I think they go back to enemies.
• 1:32:06
  If I remember right. I read this one like couple
• 1:32:09
  years ago like started books a gram for me so but I do.
• 1:32:13
  Remember that on my TBR? Being from like a Guild of
• 1:32:17
  assassins and stuff. So I would say that's a good
• 1:32:20
  true enemies, lovers, completed duology for anyone that needs
• 1:32:24
  like that completion. Then you could continue and
• 1:32:29
  there's other duologies that are now completed with that series,
• 1:32:33
  but they're different groups of people.
• 1:32:36
  Different couples. Interesting.
• 1:32:37
  We have so many books. This seems to be though our main
• 1:32:42
  theme amongst the books that we have now.
• 1:32:45
  I know this is just a little bit of what we have, what we've
• 1:32:48
  listed. I'm sure some of these other
• 1:32:51
  ones that I have sitting waiting on me are Enemies to lovers.
• 1:32:57
  Which ones are true enemies to lovers?
• 1:33:00
  Rebecca? True enemies.
• 1:33:01
  True enemies. Out of all the books that we had
• 1:33:05
  today, I would say probably I don't.
• 1:33:09
  This is my thought in it. Which one do I think is the
• 1:33:12
  truest of true enemy? I'm going to have to go with the
• 1:33:16
  Serpent in the Wings of Night because I think out of all of
• 1:33:19
  them, I think that's 100% like out of ones that I have read
• 1:33:23
  now, like some of the ones you said there seem like it too, but
• 1:33:26
  I think. Yeah, like that one.
• 1:33:29
  Is that 100% I since we both have read that one, yes like
• 1:33:36
  100% agree. That is a true enemies lovers
• 1:33:39
  must read and then some of the other ones that I have read or
• 1:33:43
  Rebecca hasn't read yet. Yeah.
• 1:33:46
  Let us know what you guys think. True, we're talking in like true
• 1:33:50
  knives at throats wanting to kill each other, but finding
• 1:33:54
  some kind of middle ground to where they realize that they're
• 1:33:59
  more alike than they're different when they put it aside
• 1:34:03
  their differences. So I mean, this is this has been
• 1:34:06
  a good episode, I think. This I love troops talk.
• 1:34:09
  I think what? Well, we'll just ask everybody.
• 1:34:13
  What is another trope that you want us to talk about?
• 1:34:17
  Another one that I personally love is a Fated Mates.
• 1:34:22
  Of course proximity are. Those are some of my favorite
• 1:34:27
  but faded mates have an interesting twist to them.
• 1:34:31
  A lot of times they do and. Especially if it's enemies to
• 1:34:34
  lovers and they're supposed to hate each other, but then they
• 1:34:36
  have this bond that like connects them.
• 1:34:38
  And then they have to fight that bond to like truly see, is it
• 1:34:42
  the bond or is it my love for you?
• 1:34:44
  Like is there something there or.
• 1:34:47
  Yeah. And and then sometimes they
• 1:34:49
  break the bond, right? Sometimes the bonds don't even
• 1:34:52
  go together, like Lucy and. That's what I was just going to
• 1:34:55
  say. Is this going to come to play
• 1:34:57
  when Akatar 6 comes out? I don't know that it's
• 1:35:02
  interesting and and also you have to also put into play is
• 1:35:06
  truly is Reesan and Farah. Are they truly fated mates or is
• 1:35:11
  it that they were tricked into a blood oath?
• 1:35:14
  There's some theories out there. So get ready everyone.
• 1:35:17
  We will be coming back with some more ACOTAR miniseries and maybe
• 1:35:21
  that's a possibility on one of them.
• 1:35:24
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• 1:35:34
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• 1:35:38
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• 1:35:45
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• 1:35:47
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• 1:35:48
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• 1:35:51
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• 1:35:55
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• 1:36:04
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• 1:36:11
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• 1:36:14
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