Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 76: Sister Wives Deep Dive + Jon & Kate + 8 Vice Documentary
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- 0:01High Raccoons. Hey party people, Welcome to the Reality TV Cringe Podcast,
- 0:15where we serview all the trash that is fit to eat. Baby, Yes,
- 0:19honey, we're just rolling around in this dumpster. Look trash, all
- 0:23the trash eating trashy serving trash. Oh yeah, getting fat off. We
- 0:28are trash connoisseur's darlings. Ma'am. Well, we are meeting in the middle
- 0:33of this week, a little later in the week because well we don't really
- 0:38have a show to review since we decided not to do our rewinds for Sister
- 0:43Wives because we've got the new seasons start in yeah, on the twentieth.
- 0:48Yeah, so might as well not start a new season season four, right
- 0:52of Sister Wives rewind? What's the point? We might as well just do
- 0:55it after this season's over. Yea offseason rewind. Yeah, but we still
- 1:00wanted to do a pod, and so what we thought we would do Raccoons
- 1:03is just go over some of the current Sister Wives and plathifyl gossip. Yeah,
- 1:07there's not a lot of plathiful stuff, but there's that Ethan thing we
- 1:11got to talk about. Yeah, we do, got to talk about it,
- 1:12and some John and eight plus Kates yes, because I finally watched the
- 1:15Vice documentary. Bit it was good and we're going to talk about it,
- 1:23but I just wanted more too. I just wanted a bit more. And
- 1:26I also thought that this was episodic, like it was going to be more
- 1:30than one episode. Me too, but it's not. It's like a series.
- 1:34But they only had one episode fea during John and Kate right stuff.
- 1:38So I'm like, Okay, could have been better. It could have been
- 1:41more and I would have loved to hear more from Colin and Hannah me too,
- 1:45although we got some juicy stuff on that and again we will talk about
- 1:48it, but um, yeah, I was glad I watched it. Yeah,
- 1:51yeah, it was pretty lit. It was pretty lit. And it's
- 1:53interesting that Kate had no comment to Vice, had nothing to say, I
- 1:59know, for being such a narcass bitch. I'm like, wouldn't you want
- 2:02to like protect your image a little bit because this makes you look bad?
- 2:06Yeah? Like really bad. Although there's still some people on Instagram that are
- 2:09simping for Kate and I don't get it. I don't either, but yeah,
- 2:14after this, I'm much more compassionate towards John. I used to think
- 2:17he was just a big door and he is though, yeah, but I
- 2:22mean compared to Kate, Like I think that he actually loved his children and
- 2:25still does and still does. But we'll talk about that maybe toward the end
- 2:30of the pod. Before we do anything, though, Beatrice, we have
- 2:32to remind everybody that we are in a propro yeah offense. We say all
- 2:37kinds of crazy whack shit for real, and so if that is something you
- 2:42don't like, first of all, I don't know how you found your way
- 2:44here. And if you're like into word policing the Saints or dumpster nope,
- 2:50we say whatever. Although I have to tell you, Beatrice, what for
- 2:53our Whole Island recap on Monday, I had to go in there and edit
- 2:59the shit out of We were pretty bad. I was especially talking about former
- 3:04sexual fucking shit I did ye also talking about those hoes on Temptation Island.
- 3:09We were really bad. I just feel like on an ethical spiritual level,
- 3:14like maybe we need to calm down a little. No, yeah, I
- 3:16mean, but that's why you edit some of ours. Like I think I
- 3:20edited ten minutes of the most inflammatory bullshit out of that episode and it was
- 3:24still really fucking inflammatory. It was kind of funny because you texted me late
- 3:28at night and you were like, I had to edit this part out,
- 3:30this part out, I'm sorry, and I was like, no, it's
- 3:32okay. I kind of figured, right, I probably would have that out,
- 3:36but you know, hey, so, I mean, we are out
- 3:38of control, but like, we're still not unreasonable raccoons. You guys are
- 3:44still getting kind of a softer version of what we really are like. But
- 3:47I do have to say on Patreon we're a little less. We're not really
- 3:51censored here, but to the degree that we would edit stuff out, We're
- 3:55really not going to be doing that on Patreon. It's only been a couple
- 4:00of months. We're starting our video content this month. We're gonna be obviously
- 4:05doing the recaps or the reviews of Sister Wives. We're gonna be videoing our
- 4:11pods and yeah, so Patreon is going to be a little bit raw and
- 4:15uncensored. So if you like that kind of stuff, you should totally check
- 4:17us out. Yeah, Patreon dot com slash reality TV cringe. It's only
- 4:20five dollars a month right now, girl right for the VP dome sto not
- 4:26just girls Honey Week on boys like two Boys. I think somebody wrote in
- 4:30like a boy wrote in a question for our raccoon k and I'm like,
- 4:33oh my god, we have a boy in the dumpster. I'm getting sexually
- 4:38around. I don't know who you are getting downstairs, not me, because
- 4:45she's a big she loves all the women in isdamster limitary is something. Um
- 4:50what about our Instagram? Go follow us there too? At reality TV?
- 4:55Cringe. I mean, we're just gaining all the followers. Girl, Now,
- 4:59I'm excited. I love it. We're getting famous. So I don't
- 5:02know about all that, but I just I like finding our people and with
- 5:06like all of the energy and the vibes in the ether right now around sister
- 5:13wives, it's like we're all collectively trying to find one another. It's magnetic.
- 5:17Week. Are so excited about the whole shit that's about to go down
- 5:21on the twenty of the August year of Our Lord. This season's gonna be
- 5:26fire, dude. I think it actually is going to be pretty good because
- 5:30I think that these wives, at least two of them, okay, Christine
- 5:33and Janelle, look like they're ready to be a little bit more honest.
- 5:38Yeah. Yeah, especially Janelle when she's telling Cody to buck off. Yeah,
- 5:43oh I love it. Well, why don't we start there? Because
- 5:46there was a second trailer that was released this week. You posted it up
- 5:50on our Instagram, So if y'all haven't seen it, go to Reality tv
- 5:54Grunt on Instagram you can watch it. But why don't we play it now?
- 5:58Just the audio for the raccoon and then you and I can chit chat
- 6:00afterwards. All right, here it is. I left Cody because I could
- 6:04see he had favorites. I've heard him refer to ask his friends. You
- 6:13have cheated me out of my family. You're not pushing me out the door.
- 6:16That's an exaggeration, not a lot. I think you're manipulating. No
- 6:20no, no, no, no no no no no. You stay and
- 6:23talk, you shut it off. I can't. This season of Sister Wives
- 6:30August twentye ten on TLC and stream on Max Girl Girl, So, I
- 6:39mean, there wasn't a lot new, but there was a couple of tidbits
- 6:44here that were fire, yes, starting with Christine again calling Cody out for
- 6:49having a favorite wife chef's kiss so perfect. Do you think she's sting the
- 6:55money? Do you think she's going to go all in and like talk about
- 6:58it. That's what I'm scared about is because even last season, when she
- 7:00was leaving and she was going through so much, and Robin and her family
- 7:06were completely inappropriate when they all sat by, like there was so much going
- 7:11on, she still didn't give us a lot of information. At the Tell
- 7:15All, she got a little upset, yeah, but it still felt like
- 7:18she was like shielding and guarding the family and Janelle as well. Janelle was
- 7:24a little bit more open in last year's tell All, you know, kind
- 7:27of calling Robin counselor Robin right this or that. But that's what I'm worried
- 7:31about. I'm worried about them not going all the way. God. Well,
- 7:35I mean, I feel like with Christine, if the rumors we had
- 7:40talked about a couple weeks ago about her being seen out in public talking shit
- 7:43about Cody and Janelle was there and all that, if that's true, then
- 7:47maybe because this season I've read that Christine is going to be in Utah,
- 7:51They're going to be filming her in Utah where everyone else is in fucking Flagstaff,
- 7:57maybe she'll let loose a little bit and like I mean that by brown
- 8:01standards, like they're not going to be going off like Cody's a piece of
- 8:03shit, he's got Robin Liddle hair, he's got a small dick. Like,
- 8:05they're not going to be saying all of that. That's what we'll be
- 8:07doing, saying what we'll be inferring, But like I feel like maybe she'll
- 8:13be dropping some shit because I mean that's kind of big, right saying it.
- 8:16I felt like he had favorites, right, she has said that already.
- 8:20But like to your point, there was that scene from the first trailer
- 8:24where Garrison and Janelle and Christine and I forget who else was there, but
- 8:28they were like, Robin can have him, you know, we don't need
- 8:31a father figure anymore. So it feels like they're getting together as that faction
- 8:37of the family, and they're being more open about their feelings. Right,
- 8:41that's the shit I want to see. Please stop guarding and shielding. Yeah.
- 8:46The reason they might continue to do so is because as they tell the
- 8:50truth about their lives, they're going to tip their hand that they've been lying
- 8:54this entire time. And Christine has been lying. Yeah, and La has
- 9:00been so fucking loyal to Cody, which makes this whole thing wild. Yeah,
- 9:03that's happening. With totally. But she's been so loyal, she's been
- 9:07towing that fucking line, and so for her to come out now and say
- 9:11that was all a lie. He's been neglecting us for years. He hasn't
- 9:15seen my kids for years. It's like, well, then, why the
- 9:16fuck were you lying to us for what twelve years? Right? Why were
- 9:20you putting on this facade? But I mean, to play Devil's advocate,
- 9:24like, this is a family we're talking about, right, So maybe they
- 9:26don't want to air all of their dirty laundry out on TV for seventeen years.
- 9:31I mean, I know they're on film, but it's because they're broke.
- 9:35They need the money, they want the check. Yeah, So like
- 9:37they're doing this for a reason. And it's kind of like with John Nate
- 9:41plus Kate, We're like a lot of things were going on behind the scenes
- 9:45that we didn't see, but like a lot of it was kind of leaking
- 9:48out on TV and that's why people are attracted to the show. So,
- 9:52I mean, I could see a world where why they would be hiding for
- 9:56Cody and why they would be trying to make it work because you know,
- 10:01it's for the betterment of the family. Right, I guess. But like
- 10:03juxtapose that with Plath Phil, where you have season four, we've got Kim
- 10:09who's divorcing Barry, She's leaving the house in the homestead. You've got Ethan
- 10:15and Olivia kind of going through their bullshit having fights on camera. It's there
- 10:20seems to be just a higher level of transparency, which I think makes it
- 10:24a more compelling show, especially when your whole audience knows when you're lying.
- 10:30That's such a good point. Everybody knows that they've been lying for season after
- 10:33season after season. Like, if you really want to redeem this franchise and
- 10:37potentially create offshoots like David and Christine or Janelle and Mary and all the shit
- 10:43that they're doing, or kids shows and stuff like that, tell the truth
- 10:46right now, that's true. That's a great point. That would be way
- 10:50more interesting if I'm seeing Christine pop off, if I'm seeing Janelle pop off,
- 10:54not just with Cody like in that scene, but to the camera telling
- 10:58the truth. Oh being I'm in Yes, that's true. Do you think
- 11:01they're going to have a better tell all this season two? No? I
- 11:07have no, Oh my god. If it's so, I can't with Sukiana.
- 11:13I really got drug though after that tell all, like you went,
- 11:16I went to her instagram. You went to her instagram. People were just
- 11:20going crazy because you didn't again, no truth telling. You didn't ask any
- 11:26of the questions that we needed the answers to. Yeah, bring an actual
- 11:30interviewer like I'm Carlos King would be awesome, Tamarin Hall would be awesome.
- 11:35Yeah. And I think she did a tell all with them many many years
- 11:39ago, which I think was removed, and I want to say it was
- 11:43reality. T Squad made a video probably within the last week talking about this
- 11:46tell all that isn't available anymore, where I think certain things were exposed and
- 11:52us Christine was humiliated in some way. I got to go back and watch
- 11:56that video. Oh my god. But like we need an inter off.
- 12:00You were who's willing to go deeper? Yeah, then Shamalama Dingdong well and
- 12:05not let Cody fucking dictate all the shots and dictate what questions can and cannot
- 12:09be answered, Like you're not the head of the show anymo. But it
- 12:11really kind of felt like they had given him that power, like they had
- 12:13a real power to be separated from everybody else so you wouldn't have to be
- 12:18held accountable. He wouldn't even talk about Robin at all. Yeah, and
- 12:24he wouldn't answer questions that he didn't like. And so if that this fucking
- 12:28cannot fly, No, it can't. And there should be like more than
- 12:31three parts of a tell all, or if you're going to have three parts
- 12:35of a tell all, they need to be like a full ass hour is
- 12:37that of forty minutes because you're talking about the breakup of this entire fucking family.
- 12:41You're talking about Mary, Janelle, and Christine all leaving, and they're
- 12:46all leaving for the same reason because Cody don't want to touch them, no
- 12:48mo right, Cody don't love them, no mo I want to hear all
- 12:52of that shit. Yeah, They're better be a good fucking tell all there.
- 12:56Let this be a good fucking season, please, because that's the way
- 13:01they're marketing this, Like these trailers are are so dynamic, bombastic and dramalicious.
- 13:09They're almost promising a different kind of season. And I'm telling you,
- 13:13DLC, if you want to continue with this franchise or with offshoots, you've
- 13:18got to start fucking telling the truth. And you've got to start throwing Cody
- 13:20under the bus, which they were doing honestly, they were doing some of
- 13:24that totally in season seventeen, but it needs to be way more transparent and
- 13:26way more overt. Yeah, I need to see him get dragged. Okay,
- 13:31let's go a little deeper into this second trailer. Okay, we see
- 13:35Janelle and Cody on the couch in her dormitory apartment, and he's saying something
- 13:41about her keeping him from the family. He said, you've been cheating me
- 13:46away from my family, or something like, Okay, I just loved Can
- 13:48we talk about that under what theory has Janelle kept Cody away from her children?
- 13:56That's a joke. How is he going to come up with? What
- 13:58is he going to say, hey, Beatrice, like you are, he
- 14:01is talking out of his fucking ass. If he's really trying to say that
- 14:05Janelle has been keeping him away from his family, why because she didn't force
- 14:11the kids to social distance and stay at home in quarantine in order to see
- 14:15you, even though you weren't doing that, and even though you and Robin
- 14:18were the only two out of the entire family that got fucking COVID from your
- 14:22nanny, and you guys aren't even fucking vaccinated. You made the rest of
- 14:24the family get vaccinated. You made the rest of the family do all these
- 14:28stupid COVID rules that you didn't even fucking participate in. You were going to
- 14:33weddings and dancing with a bunch of people, wouldn't even go to Isabel's surgery.
- 14:37Come on, dude, right, So I'm just wondering what kind of
- 14:41mental fucking gymnastics he's going to be going through to try and blame Janelle,
- 14:45who, I say, once again, has been probably the most down and
- 14:48loyal, totally wife that he has had, yep. And so I'm just
- 14:54like, I don't even know how you get there, dude, other than
- 14:56Gabe and Garrison, who have pretty much told him. They had that altercation
- 15:01out on Coyote Pass where they're confronting him about COVID and all the protocols,
- 15:05and afterwards he called them narcissists. Maybe it's Gabin Garrison and her not being
- 15:13able to bring her children to heal. I'm just like, dude, the
- 15:16audacity Janelle has been paying the family bills for twenty something freaking years, where
- 15:22because you can't fucking work, Robin can't work, and she's got all that
- 15:26Victoria's secret det and she's got a mic mansion. Well, fucking Janelle has
- 15:28been begging for a goddamn casita or just something to live in. She had
- 15:33to buy a fucking RV just so she had a place to live in.
- 15:37Because you are spending all of your money on Robin, right, And the
- 15:39reason he was so mad about that was because he wants that money to pay
- 15:43off Coyote Pass. Yeah. I do have to just maybe correct that a
- 15:48little bit, because I do think we've been saying a couple of things.
- 15:50First and foremost, that Janelle was the primary breadwinner. I'm really not so
- 15:54sure about that. I think she was a bookkeeper when they were in Utah,
- 15:58probably down twenty five to thirty thousand dollars a year. Maybe, I
- 16:03don't think that's going to be supporting the entire family. I think we had
- 16:07Christine on food stamps. I think we probably had Mary on food stamps.
- 16:10You know, they're rigging the fucking sus true, declaring bankruptcy, they're doing
- 16:12all of these other things. So while Janelle did like to work and didn't
- 16:17have a job, I'm really not sure how much money she brought into it.
- 16:22I don't know how successful she was as a real estate agent in Vegas.
- 16:26Maybe she was very successful. I would love to hear from a raccoon
- 16:27who might know the answer to that, please, But I think she gets
- 16:30more credit actually than she might be due. And with regard to the Victorious
- 16:36Secret ship, because you and I have heard and it's just all over the
- 16:38internet, the fucking bill for that was like fifty thousand dollars or ridiculate that
- 16:44in actuality, somebody did a forensic investigation into her bills. I think her
- 16:51Victorious Secret charges amounted to about a thousand dollars. Oh that's it. Yeah,
- 16:56so it wasn't that much. Maybe her total debt was up around fifty
- 16:59or seventy I'm not sure. I'm speaking out of my ass, but the
- 17:02Victorious Secret aspect of it was not as large as so many of us have
- 17:07been saying that you're waiting. That would have been funnier, it would have
- 17:10been better. It would have been better girl. Okay, back to the
- 17:15trailers. So Cody says that horse shit, and then Janelle says something like,
- 17:19now you're trying to push me out of the family, Yeah, which
- 17:23is crazy. And this is where he gets mad. He's like, no,
- 17:26no, no, no, no, I'm not putting up with that,
- 17:26and then she says, and you're manipulating me. And then that's when
- 17:30he gets up and leaves, and she's like, so you're going to walk
- 17:33out and leave and that's when she says, fuck you, right, So
- 17:37she's calling it. And so maybe what he's actually doing is try to trying
- 17:41to reframe the whole situation that Janelle has been conspiring behind his back with a
- 17:48click of kids or anti Cody. And I also noticed there's a Christmas tree
- 17:52behind her yea, So maybe she has decided at this point that she's going
- 17:57to spend her holiday with her kids with Christine somewhere else that Cody can't go.
- 18:03And so maybe that's why he's saying, you're pushing me out of this
- 18:07family or you're keeping me away from my family, and she's like, no,
- 18:11I'm calling you on this bullshit because now you're trying to frame me as
- 18:15the bad guy. This is just another manipulation that you and Robin aren't doing.
- 18:18Oh and to your point, I wonder if he's getting I wonder if
- 18:22he's trying to like cause a split in the family where like nobody fucking talks
- 18:26to Christine. Because last season he was talking about how like the other wives,
- 18:32like if they're going to be friends with Christine, if they're going to
- 18:33talk to her whatever, like that's going to cause an issue with him because
- 18:37of loyalty and respect and all that. I wonder if he's trying to cause
- 18:41that rift, because if that's true, if Janelle's like, well, I'm
- 18:42going to spend Christmas with Christine and her kids because my kids would love to
- 18:47hang out with her kids, and we're just going to do that because my
- 18:49kids consider Christine to be their mother exactly. And if Robin and Cody are
- 18:53still doing their stupid social distancing, no Christmases whatever, then yeah, of
- 19:00course Janelle is going to do that. So maybe he's pissed off because of
- 19:03that, Like maybe he's like, well, no, you can't go and
- 19:04hang out with Christine. Yeah, because I think at the end of season
- 19:07seventeen, we have Thanksgiving up in the air, right, and Janelle's like,
- 19:11yeah, I'm not going to be here for Thanksgiving, and so I
- 19:14think that this is the next month after that. So we're still in fucking
- 19:17twenty twenty one, and I'm wondering, are we going to catch up to
- 19:21at least the end of twenty twenty two. I'm like, how much how
- 19:23much time are we going to cover in this season? Because so much has
- 19:26happened, right, And maybe that's why the family is also secretive too,
- 19:30because they're filming two years behind, so they can't give away everything. But
- 19:37I don't know, like it'll be weird to see what happens in this season
- 19:41because we know Janelle and Mary have left two so they're gone. So are
- 19:45we going to see Mary in his divorce? Like I'm be going to see
- 19:49the confrontation of that. I mean, we've seen, like in the first
- 19:52trailer, we see some discussion around that, and in this trailer, Mary
- 19:56says something like, well, I've heard him refer to us as friend And
- 20:00I was thinking, when you say us the Ogs, do you mean the
- 20:03wives or does she mean him or like her and Cody like us together.
- 20:08I wonder because I kind of took it like the og wives, Yeah,
- 20:12we're just friends. Yeah, but maybe she's talking about her and Cody,
- 20:15right, I don't get Cody, Like what incentivizes these women to want to
- 20:21be in relationship with you right, Like with Janelle, it would have probably
- 20:26been really easy. You don't have to fuck her. You just have to
- 20:30love her kids exactly. You just have to take care of her boys and
- 20:33not ostracize them, and not fight with her kids and make her choose between
- 20:37you and her dogs and you and her kids. But he can't even do
- 20:41that. He doesn't fucking visit them, he doesn't take care of them.
- 20:44She's the one supporting them, and he can't even do that. He can't
- 20:48even show up. He can't do it. And she would have been the
- 20:51easiest wife I think to keep around, oh totally, because she didn't want
- 20:53I don't think she wanted to leave Code. I don't think she wanted to
- 20:57bring up the family like I think she knew Christine was like a law's cause,
- 21:00like there was nothing she could do or say to make Christine stay.
- 21:03And I don't think she would want Christine to do that because she cares about
- 21:07Christine. And same with Mary, Like if Mary wanted to leave, Janelle
- 21:11probably would have been like, it's fine, but like, just be around
- 21:15my family. But no, you call your kids narcissists and don't see them
- 21:18for months, nine months, don't even go and see Christine's kids or go
- 21:22to the surgeries or anything. It's like, you can't even do the bare
- 21:26fucking minimum. He can't, and he's using the same script. It looks
- 21:30like he's using the same script on Janelle that he used on Christine. That's
- 21:33just so wild to me because I'm like, how do you not see how
- 21:37you are perceived? I don't get it. I mean unless you're truly and
- 21:41I know we throw around the word narcissist, but if you're a malignant narcissist,
- 21:47then you lack the ability to introspect, to see yourself and have that
- 21:49kind of self awareness. So maybe you see herself being an absolute fucking douchebag
- 21:55barbarian on television and you think you're winning it life because you have a fucking
- 21:59mental disorder. Yeah, and then you manipulate other people like McKelty to say,
- 22:03oh, it's just bad editing, they just make me look bad on
- 22:06TV. No, it's this is literally how you are. I can't with
- 22:11her. She also said something you had just mentioned about Cody having an issue
- 22:15with his wives being friends with Christine. She actually defended him on this point
- 22:19on her blocks around, like, yeah, she was like, well,
- 22:22why would he want, you know, his other wives to hang out with
- 22:26the wife that he's no longer with. I'm like, McKelty, that's your
- 22:30mom. Oh my god, I saw which I can't with her. I
- 22:33literally cannot with her and Tony Pedron what is wrong with her? I don't
- 22:37know, but yeah, she defended him for a feeling that way. I
- 22:41don't get that. I don't get how you can't look at this objectively and
- 22:45be like, yeah, my dad is wrong here, like my mom may
- 22:48have not handled the situation perfectly, whatever, if you want to fault her,
- 22:52but like, how can you look at this situation and even defend Cody
- 22:56and why? Like one little minute, wait, how can you defend him?
- 23:03I don't know. And I won't subscribe to her patron because I just
- 23:07can't take her. No, I can't take her and I can't take her
- 23:10husband. But if there are any raccoons out there that subscribe to her patreon,
- 23:14my question for you, and you can DM Beatrice on the Instagram Reality
- 23:18TV cringe, My question for you is, does mckeltie ever criticize Cody and
- 23:23Robin? Like does she does she ever have like a counterbalance or a counterpoint
- 23:29on some of these issues, like yeah, my mom, because remember in
- 23:33season seventeen when she forces Christine to have the meeting to say goodbye, but
- 23:37right before that, she's like, okay, so what are we doing?
- 23:41Do we need to go over there? Do we need to take the toilet
- 23:45seats or something like that? Do you remember what she said? Do we
- 23:47need to go fuck shit up? Essentially? Right? Like, where's that
- 23:51sentiment is it? Does she say anything like that on Patreon? I'm curious
- 23:53because she's not saying anything like that in terms of publicly. I'm not reading
- 23:57anything like that on at it. She just seems to be hyping up Cody
- 24:02and Robin. Just bizarre. I don't get it. And it's because of
- 24:04our friendship with Robin, I think because she I think she believes Robin as
- 24:08like I came in gab in hand and I just love everybody. I'm just
- 24:12a good person. How can you watch the show McKelty, I don't know
- 24:17and not have them more. Maybe she doesn't mind, Maybe she doesn't watch
- 24:21the show. I think now they're doing recaps because Gwen is making so much
- 24:23money on Patreon that now to McKelty are also doing that I don't know,
- 24:27girl, but I know probably picking and choosing episodes. Maybe maybe or maybe
- 24:32they're doing it just to make their dad look good. Maybe they are,
- 24:34like I don't know, maybe Cody is like straight up manipulating McKelty. And
- 24:40I mean really like she's the only kid that's coming out defending Cody. I
- 24:45feel like nobody else's no nobody else, not even Gwen. I mean,
- 24:48Gwen is not saying anything bad necessarily about Cody and Robin, but like she's
- 24:52not, but she's critical, and she's critical on the download. You right,
- 24:56but she's critical, but like you don't even hear Robin's kids, like
- 25:00her three original children coming out and talking aboutably fucking clamped down can't say anything,
- 25:07which is wild. The last thing I wanted to just run by you
- 25:11is David Woolley, Like I'm I can't wait to get a sense of this
- 25:15guy, yeah, because I want to know whether he can go toe to
- 25:19toe with Cody. And you know, obviously he was at Gwen's wedding.
- 25:23He's there with Christine. Cody looked really fucking pressed, and so did Robin.
- 25:29They did not look happy to be there. I'm wondering if it's because
- 25:32David is there. I'm wondering what his personality is like, for example,
- 25:37some of my husband's energy. Now you know my husband to be a very
- 25:41kind person because he likes you, Yes, But if you didn't know my
- 25:44husband and he didn't like you, you can kind of perceive what kind of
- 25:47energy he would put off in a room. And it's noticeable, right,
- 25:49Oh yeah, it's tough. And so I'm just wondering, like if David
- 25:53brings that kind of confident, masculine he doesn't look like it to me,
- 25:59but maybe I'm wrong. Well, but he's like, I mean, he's
- 26:00got like nine kids, he was a he's a widower, right, So
- 26:03like maybe he is. And I think he's successful. He's a professional person,
- 26:07he's a contractors. He's obviously making Christine happy. Yeah, he's making
- 26:11Christine. Yeah. So I'm just wondering what he's going to bring to this.
- 26:18I'm wondering if he's going to be talking to camera. Oh my god,
- 26:21I hope it's Christine and David on the couch, or if it's just
- 26:25David on the couch giving his fucking opinion, Like I'm here for that,
- 26:27I just die. I hope I hope, I hope t TLC understands when
- 26:33you look at these two trailers, they know exactly what we want. This
- 26:37is what we're fucking living for. Please so give it to hi. Please
- 26:41don't just give us all the highlights in these fucking trailers of the whole entire
- 26:45season. But now I'm thinking, are they even going to have David in
- 26:48here? If we're filming in late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two,
- 26:52when did Christine announced that they were She announced like this year that they
- 26:56were together, right, and then now they're engaged. They but yeah,
- 27:00but they were together in twenty twenty two, so maybe we'll see like their
- 27:03courtship. Maybe maybe. And there are also rumors that there might be a
- 27:08David and Christine wedding special, which I would totally watch every episode of just
- 27:15because I know it will kill Cody and Robin and that check goes just to
- 27:18Christine and David. They don't get any portion of it. Yes, well,
- 27:23so maybe they will be honest. Maybe they're out of their contracts or
- 27:26something with Cody, like maybe they sign their own contract. Sure, I
- 27:30can say whatever. Other shit I want to know is like, how did
- 27:33you disentangle your finances. Right, Christine just picked up and left. She's
- 27:37like, Yolo, you can have this fucking property for time dollars buy,
- 27:40I'll take my house and I'm gone. I don't think she's under any obligation
- 27:45to Cody and his dumb LLC with Robin. Yeah. So, and also
- 27:48there was, I mean months and months ago, there was some pictures I
- 27:52think on Christine's ig of her at her then house with David and there was
- 27:57a film crew there. So day it's definitely going to be in this season.
- 28:03Oh oh my god, give it to me. I'm just wondering what
- 28:06his energy is. I mean, I just don't know, Like was Cody
- 28:07and Timid dated. I personally can't really see it with David, but that's
- 28:11because I haven't met his energy yet, right, Maybe he's got big dick
- 28:15energy. So I'm saying maybe he maybe he's a papa, Maybe he's a
- 28:18tough dude. I'm ready for a girl. Christine's got a tat tat tat
- 28:26with David. Yeah, God, you know they're fucking I hope so,
- 28:30oh my god, I hope it. How old is he? Though?
- 28:33I mean, let me get a sip here how old is he? He's
- 28:34probably get in his fifties. Fifties. Yeah, it's older than that a
- 28:38little bit. She's what fifty one. I don't think he's that much older.
- 28:44I don't probably fifty six, fifty seven. He just kind of looks
- 28:47I'm not going to say elderly, but I just don't know how much he's
- 28:49fucking and laying it down, you know what I mean? But I hope
- 28:52so for her. Dude, see alist too. You know what I'm saying.
- 28:55I'm in the medical field, and you'd be supriime reading people's medical records
- 28:59all time. Seventy eighty year old men still fucking how still fuck are they
- 29:04doing the viagral? Some of them aren't though? How can that be?
- 29:10I literally read a dude today seventies. You know, I'm not giving any
- 29:12patient patient. Don't come here for me with the hippa. I know the
- 29:18hippa. But he's like in his seventies and he's still fucking dude, what
- 29:22is he putting that on his paperwork? For? Sexually? You tell the
- 29:26urologists, okay, because you're prostate, probably they're just fucking hot, okay,
- 29:33Papa. Oh yeah, so I'm hoping for that with Christine, that
- 29:37she's having a wonderful sex life because all she has ever known is Cody Brown.
- 29:42And I'm sorry with his fucking pencil dick, your pencil getting what I'm
- 29:47just not confident his fucking ringlets and his sexual prowess whatsoever. So now she's
- 29:52got a fucking titty tat. Yes, I think she's getting her back blown
- 29:56out. I hope she's getting that sensual seduction baby. Yes, it's on
- 30:00our vision board, and it's on our vision board for Mary as well.
- 30:03Ye want that for Mary, deeply, truly, madly and deeply yes,
- 30:07And we want that for Janelle because I don't think Janelle gets it. I
- 30:11really, I know she has nine thousand children with they've obviously had sex,
- 30:15But again I say, I don't think he's a sexual dynamo. And to
- 30:19our conversation last Monday, when we inappropriately speculated about Cody's sexual orientation, like
- 30:25if there is a world where maybe he's a bisexual person, it might prefer
- 30:30men, but he's doing with the Mormon thing that he's got to do right,
- 30:33Like maybe she just hasn't been with a man who is truly loved up
- 30:37on her Volopucu was a body. Yeah. I just loved all of her
- 30:41curves and everything, knew the places to rub. Yes, when you know
- 30:47she likes to camp, you know she totally cowboy a cowboy. Oh no,
- 30:52oh my god, he's getting his nails done. He's not a fucking
- 30:56cowboy. She needs a cowboy. What does Robin see it? And then
- 31:00why is money? She the favorite? What? She was the youngest,
- 31:03she was the thinnest. Oh, they made millions on this show, I
- 31:07mean. And so she hitched her wagon to Cody Brown and the Brown family,
- 31:11pretending that she wanted to be a part of the family and wanted to
- 31:15integrate. And she did. And I think she loved Cody. I think
- 31:18they fell in love. I do, Yeah, But um, I don't
- 31:21know what's going to keep her there once these three bitches are gone and the
- 31:23family's gone, and maybe TLC and the cameras are gone and following the other
- 31:29people. Yeah, because I can't see a world where we're just gonna have
- 31:32a fucking spinoff of just Cody and Robin nobody. We're going to have to
- 31:36do it because it's her job and we take it seriously. But I don't
- 31:40want to watch that shit. I would not much prefer to follow the other
- 31:42family members, Sam's mckeltey and Tony yeah for real, and maybe Mary.
- 31:47I mean, I don't want to see Mary on a spinoff if she's just
- 31:49going to be the same old fake Instagram fucking monets LM bullshit, Like,
- 31:56just be honest, talk about your feelings. I would love to do her
- 31:59day. Yeah she's Cody when what she's nineteen years old or something lost.
- 32:05I'm sure her Mormon virginity and she believed their celestial planet terrible and now she
- 32:12doesn't get to go to the celestial planet, so you might as well be
- 32:15fucking and get somebody who rides a Harley David's motorcycle. That's all I see
- 32:20for just speaking it into existence. I keep drying. I don't know why.
- 32:23I don't know what about Mary. No, she looks like she's a
- 32:27biker chick, like she'd be in the bitch seat, right, yeah,
- 32:29saying like she looked good in like a little leather, like a like god.
- 32:32But back to Janelle, Ye, Janelle, if she had her a
- 32:36cowboy who was out on the range and they were tall, tap like one
- 32:39of those fucking bel sucking boots and everything, size fourteen boots or something like
- 32:45that big old day my husband's big old boots and like a fucking stetson.
- 32:52Yes, God, like rip on yellow Stone, Janelle, your life would
- 32:57be changed. Oh and you're such a good woman. And she is so
- 33:00awes No, no, she's made her mistakes. Well, nobody's perfect.
- 33:04But I love Jane. I mean we cap for her a lot. Yeah,
- 33:07as the kids style, Yeah, we cap for her. But I
- 33:14mean she was not the best parent insofar as she put up with all of
- 33:20this horse shright and allowed her children to be deeply hurt by a fucking asshole
- 33:24of a person. She could have protected her family, she could have made
- 33:29different choices, but I think that it was a matter of faith. Right,
- 33:32she wanted to do the right thing. But I just need to I
- 33:35just need her to get out of the box and experience life a little differently.
- 33:38I just think it would blow her mind and her box. All right,
- 33:45Well, God, that whole thing was the trailer on the trailer.
- 33:49I'm just so excited, y'all. I'm very excited, and I've got shit
- 33:52to say all the way up until August twentieth year of her Lord, one
- 33:55wary three, Yes, ma'am, Please Lord, let that be released on
- 33:59this side day so you and I can first and foremost watch that shit and
- 34:02film ourselves and fucking reactions, and second of all pod right away and get
- 34:07with these raccoons. It better And they said it's streaming on Max, so
- 34:10I'm like that better not inhibit. Oh no, you fucking releasing that shit
- 34:15on Discovery Plus on Sunday. Everybody's been pissed about Discovery. I swear to
- 34:22God, I'm gonna I'll be mad too. It might actually delay our fucking
- 34:30um recaps, not our recaps, but I know we need to contact.
- 34:34But where do you trust our celestial planetary father that he's going to pull through
- 34:37and everything's going to work out for our benefit and divine order? All right?
- 34:44Okay, do you want to get into some hot guss? Yeah?
- 34:47Okay, then bitch, let's get into the hot gussy. It's not that
- 34:52hot. There are just a few things, though, that I do want
- 34:53to talk with you about and just to kind of get your feeling on all
- 34:58right, first and foremost or with an article, And let me just say
- 35:01a lot of these articles that I get in my Google alerts are dumb.
- 35:06They're just added. They really don't add a whole lot of information. Sometimes
- 35:09they're based on some reditor's speculation about that victorious secret bill and it's not based
- 35:16in reality. But we don't care. Yeah, we're still going to talk.
- 35:20Hello. So the first article is entitled Robin Brown refuses to tell kids
- 35:27that their father is dying. This is from TV Showsace dot com. And
- 35:34so you know, David Jessup is Robin's first husband. I think he now
- 35:37goes by Preston, and I want to say, several months ago it came
- 35:42out that he has some form of leukemia. Yeah, it's leukemia, and
- 35:45it's not good. Yeah, and really there's a go fund me for it.
- 35:51I think that Backwood's Barbie on YouTube talks a bit about this, and
- 35:55I know that she posts the go fund me quite a lot. But yeah,
- 36:00he's sick and it's really sad. He's remarried and I think he's got
- 36:04children with his new wife, but it doesn't really look that good. That
- 36:07would be so fucked up if Robin was actually not telling your kids about that.
- 36:12So let me read this to you and then we can talk about whether
- 36:15she's that evil okay that she would do that all right. As fans of
- 36:19teal see Sister Wives know, Robin Brown had her three oldest children with her
- 36:23ex husband, David Preston Jessup. According to a YouTuber who intensely follows several
- 36:30different reality TV shows, including Sister Wives, named Backwoods Barbie, the biological
- 36:35father of Robin Brown's oldest children is dying of cancer. The YouTuber alleges that
- 36:40Robin Brown is adamantly refusing to allow the children she had with David to be
- 36:45made aware of the fact that their biological father is dying. Robin Brown has
- 36:51reportedly been aware of the fact that David Preston Jessup has been dying of cancer.
- 36:54How many times do you have to say dying Jesus Christ? For over
- 36:59a year now She's She, however, allegedly refused to tell her oldest three
- 37:02children what was going on. According to Backwoods Barbie, Robin argued that her
- 37:07children were currently going to school and that is where their focus needed to be.
- 37:13She claimed that she didn't want them distracted from their schoolwork by what was
- 37:17going on with her ex husband. What the fuck. If that's really the
- 37:22case, then she's an evil awful, horrible person. Can that actually be
- 37:30true? That would be crazy? Well, but I mean, at what
- 37:32point do we place responsibility on these adult children? Dayton? Brianna is Brianna
- 37:43an adult. I think she graduated with Savannah, so I think she's eighteen
- 37:46years old, and then Aurora is going to college. So like, at
- 37:51what point do we say this is up to you? Like it's out of
- 37:54the ether. It's like we've talked about it, we know about it,
- 37:57So I would imagine they know about it too. If you want to,
- 38:00you can reach out to your father, make a connection and see what's going
- 38:05on. I guess unless you have a fucking manipulative ass mom who's like telling
- 38:08you lies about your dad, Like who knows what she's telling these kids?
- 38:14And I mean, I'm just speaking from personal experience, Like I have a
- 38:16cousin who my uncle is her dad. When my uncle and his wife got
- 38:22divorced, his wife took my cousin and moved up to some podunct funking town
- 38:28in Washington State, changed her numbers, changed the address, changed my cousin's
- 38:31name, so that way she couldn't contact my uncle. My uncle couldn't contact
- 38:37her, and was like that for years until she finally, as an adult
- 38:42in her twenties now, finally decided to reach out because she got away from
- 38:46her mom and away from her stepdad. But it took that whole time,
- 38:51and it took being away from her mom and living on her own. She
- 38:53moved out a state away from her crazy ass mom to get to be able
- 38:57to contact my uncle. So, I mean, it could be a situation
- 39:00like that. And when you look at Robin on the show, like she
- 39:05doesn't like when cameras go into the house. She doesn't want her kids playing
- 39:12with Truly. Yeah, there's a definite separation between her family and everyone else,
- 39:17despite how in early season she's always talking about, you know, how
- 39:22King Solomon is going to be uniting the family and how that's her fondest desire
- 39:27and she's going to be a surrogate from Mary, Like that never really happened,
- 39:30and she doesn't seem at all interested in putting her family on the altar
- 39:35of TV and exposing her family to whatever's going on. But what we do
- 39:40see of Robin with her kids is she's a fucking helicopter mom. Yep,
- 39:45totally. We see her own kids having panic attacks crying, supersensitive, just
- 39:51like their moms. So I can imagine a world where she's absolutely keeping them
- 39:57inside, feeding them information, maybe keeping them in a state of fear.
- 40:01And I can also see a world where she's telling these kids that their father
- 40:05was an abusive piece of shit. And I'm not saying that he wasn't.
- 40:07I don't know, Yeah, but I don't trust her. She is not
- 40:12a faithful narrator. I don't trust that either. And I mean, regardless
- 40:16of what their relationships were like with their father, I'm like, I feel
- 40:20like you should still at least tell them because they don't have to contact them,
- 40:24Like, if they know he's dying or whatever, they don't have to
- 40:27contact them. If they had such a terrible relationship with them, that's on
- 40:30them. But I feel like, as a parent, as the responsible party,
- 40:35you should still be like, hey, your biological father is passing away,
- 40:38Yes, Like what the fuck? Yeah? Like I don't know,
- 40:43dude, Like I have a child from a previous marriage, and you know,
- 40:49it didn't really work out where we could co parent. I always wanted
- 40:52to, but he didn't want to co parent, and he essentially kind of
- 40:55dropped off the face of the earth. And irrespective of my judgment of him
- 41:02as a person. Because of that, right, I always encouraged my daughter
- 41:07to stay in contact with him, to visit him, to give him a
- 41:10shot, give him a chance. I always advocated for him when I really
- 41:15didn't need to do that. Yeah, my kid would tell you that I
- 41:17did that. Right, That's just the right thing to do as a parent.
- 41:21I mean, if he was an abusive asshole my ex husband, which
- 41:24he wasn't, but if he was an absolute piece of shit or dangerous,
- 41:27then obviously I wouldn't be out here advocating. But like, you gotta be
- 41:31able to create a space or a bridge for your kids to love the other
- 41:37parent, right, And I can see Robin manipulating them out of that totally,
- 41:42because even if their marriage was so terrible, her Davis or whatever,
- 41:45if he's remarried and he has other kids, like, maybe there's a chance
- 41:50he's changed, or maybe he's grown up a little bit, Like maybe he's
- 41:52not an abusive person to this family, Like I don't know, Like,
- 41:57why don't you have that ability to forgive? I guess, give or just
- 42:02be like it doesn't matter. It was the past, right, we were
- 42:06young, Right, But some of his family members have spoken out and said
- 42:09he was not abusive. In fact, it was the other way around,
- 42:12Like she was a fucking terror. So wow, who knows what's true?
- 42:15I don't know, but like we see Robin Brown on our television and we
- 42:19ain't trust in all that. All right, Next little bit of hot goss,
- 42:22which is just kind of a cute thing that we should talk about.
- 42:25Article reads Sister Wives star Mary Brown follows narcissistic abuse healing coach who helps people
- 42:32heal from toxic relationships on TikTok in the wake of her split from polygamous husband
- 42:38Cody Brown. This is from the Daily Mail. Yes, queen, we
- 42:43don't actually have to read the article. That's just essentially it. She is
- 42:46now following this coach who deals with narcissistic abuse. She only follows like seventy
- 42:52people. Yeah, she doesn't follow a lot of people, so it's kind
- 42:55of easy to see who she's tracking and who she's following who. Well,
- 43:00I love that, like, go on your healing journey, Mary, because
- 43:04you were married to a narcissist. Like, I think I'm not a doctor,
- 43:07I'm not diagnosing anybody, but I just feel like Cody is such an
- 43:12arc. Yeah, Yeah, such a fucking narc dude. Yeah, in
- 43:15his displays for attention even as a teenager that we hear from his former school
- 43:20friends and stuff like, he's just he's way out there. But here's the
- 43:23thing, Like Mary, I think it's fifty one or fifty two years old,
- 43:27and she had a hand in this fucking charade, just like everybody else
- 43:30did, in allowing Cody to manipulate this family and hurt these kids and to
- 43:37lie to all of America. I kind of feel like Mary and the other
- 43:43wives to have a responsibility, especially if he's an actual narc and she thinks
- 43:47so knows, so maybe there's a diagnosis out there, or maybe she just
- 43:51really believes. So I feel like you have a responsibility to call that shit
- 43:57out and undo the damage that you're lie have done, because maybe there's polygamists
- 44:01out there who are staying in relationships with fucking narcissistic asshole husbands who just want
- 44:07to fuck and go to their celestial kingdom in in the sky, and you
- 44:12had a hand in women staying in that situation pretending that it was so awesome
- 44:16and your family was so wholesome, Like, what are you gonna do now
- 44:20at fifty one years old, after you're leaving this marriage, to maybe change
- 44:23the story that you've written on Sister Wives. Yeah, and I mean acknowledge
- 44:29that you may have enabled some of his behavior and treat me and treating not
- 44:32only you, but like the rest of the family, Like you can't just
- 44:37sit there and watch that go bidly buy like Mary in some of these seasons
- 44:42telling Christine, oh, just deal with it, right, just fucking look
- 44:45at the mountain, like well, even with the catfish situation, which was
- 44:51pretty fucking blatant. Yeah, Like she focused totally on the fact that she
- 44:57was deceived that she was talking to a man when she was really talking to
- 45:00a woman. She never admitted on the show that that was emotional cheating for
- 45:06sure, right, that she was out of integrity and that she did the
- 45:07wrong thing. She just focused on how she was victimized by somebody who was
- 45:12deceptive. Of course, Like she doesn't naturally take a lot of responsibility or
- 45:16accountability for her fucking bad behavior, and she hasn't addressed that, I know
- 45:22of some of the claims that are floating around out there from these kids about
- 45:25her being abusive to them exactly That's such a great point with Mary. Regarding
- 45:30Mary, because I feel like Christine maybe has some ability to acknowledge her fault
- 45:37to maybe Janelle a little bit. But Mary is a little Yeah, she's
- 45:39always been kind of iffy, but I think it's because she got married so
- 45:43fucking young and she's just been in this controlling, manipulative relationship. I'm not
- 45:49making excuses for her, but I'm just saying, like she's been in this
- 45:52toxic bullshit for the majority of her life, and not to mention like the
- 45:59religious cone of it as well, which can be super traumatizing, that she
- 46:04might not even be aware of the fact that she's she's like given her whole
- 46:07fucking life to this. Yeah, for what now she's getting locked out of
- 46:10her planet? I don't think. I don't think in her face. Somebody
- 46:14correct me. Ask Ethel, like, if her husband divorces her, does
- 46:19she get to go to the planet, does she to a separate plan?
- 46:22Does she go to a planet with fucking estranged wives? Which would be a
- 46:27better planet to be quite obvious, to God's planet? But like, what
- 46:30happens to the wife who is disenfranchised from the polygamus family? Right? Do
- 46:35they That's probably why Janelle stayed in it as long as she did, because
- 46:38she was trying to be really faithful to polygamy and or of the aub Mormonism.
- 46:44Well, and maybe Mary doesn't believe in it anymore like Christine, Like
- 46:46maybe they're following suit with Christine. Maybe Janelle doesn't believe in it anymore.
- 46:51Maybe they just became eld surprising. That would be crazy. I want to
- 46:54know. That's why I need these people to tell the truth. And this
- 46:57is where I'm saying again, you actually have a responsibility to do so follow
- 47:01the people who bought your bullshit for twelve season, seventeen seasons now eighteen seasons,
- 47:07so true, years, so true. All right, moving on,
- 47:09now we have some welcome to Plathville goss. Yeah, so this article reads
- 47:16welcome to Plathvill's Ethan Plath shares message of regret amid Olivia Plath divorce rumors.
- 47:24This is from yahoo dot com and the article reads welcome to plathfill start Ethan
- 47:29Plath shared a message I think it was on Instagram, touching on regrets amid
- 47:34rumors that he split from his wife, Olivia Plath. Quote, it has
- 47:37been my experience in life that few things are heavier to bear than regret.
- 47:43Ethan twenty five wrote via Instagram alongside a carousel of photos that tagged him outside
- 47:49a local coffee shop in Minnesota on Saturday, July twenty ninth. Underneath the
- 47:53photo, TLC viewers were quick to question his relationship status with Olivia twenty five,
- 48:00asking if they were still together. One comment read, I don't see
- 48:02a ring. Another added, you should take Olivia out of your profile photo
- 48:09at the top of the page, as she took you out of hers.
- 48:13I wish you both well. While the Welcome to Plathful stars have been the
- 48:16subject of divorce rumors, they seemingly shut down those rumors that they're headed for
- 48:21separation when they were spotted attending a dinner party together. Olivia took to her
- 48:27Instagram stories on July twentieth to share a group photo that included her, Ethan,
- 48:31and a group of friends enjoying an outdoor dinner. The Teal star didn't
- 48:36reveal details about the occasion and only captioned the post with a heart hands emoj
- 48:43MM. So what do we think about that? What is your fake psychic
- 48:49intuition? Tell you? I bet they're divorced, and I bet they're just
- 48:53doing pr to not because if we remember that Olivia's sister had came out out
- 49:00a while something yeah on the Internet and had said that Ethan and Olivia have
- 49:06been divorced, and then Olivia clapped back and was like, no, we're
- 49:09not. But I saw that Instagram post from Ethan and I shared it to
- 49:16our ig story again at Reality TV Creneko follow Us plot, but I shared
- 49:22it to our Instagram story, and I thought it was interesting because Ethan and
- 49:24all of those photos that he shared of himself, he was still wearing his
- 49:28wedding ring. He was he was, Okay, Olivia doesn't wear her wedding
- 49:32ring. And all of her photos that she's been posted on Instagram, she's
- 49:36been in Europe, she's been naked in Ireland. Yeah, she went to
- 49:39a fucking wedding in the Grand Tetons or whatever in Idaho. I don't know,
- 49:45I don't care, but she wasn't wearing a wedding ring in any of
- 49:47those photos. She doesn't have any photos of him on her Instagram right,
- 49:52And then since he tagged that in Minnesota, I'm like, Okay, maybe
- 49:55you're a divorce Maybe he's holding on because he's loves her. I don't know
- 50:00why. Yeah, I don't know why. I either get well, she's
- 50:02beautiful and she's his first love. It's like a baby duckling imprints on the
- 50:08duck mama and follows them around everywhere. It's like, your heart is imprinted
- 50:13on your first love, especially if you marry them, especially if it's coupled
- 50:16with religious fucking trauma, true family problems that he is not over yet doesn't
- 50:22know how to deal with, and to the extent that she helped him to
- 50:28get out of that world, Like now she's gone, Like where is he?
- 50:30Just fucking working on cars? Right and pretending not to feel things?
- 50:36Well? And it's interesting. I like, so your caption's about regret and
- 50:38like what do you regret? Yeah, what do you do? You regret
- 50:42your marriage or do you regret how you acted? I think he regrets how
- 50:45he acted. I think he regrets some of the things that he did.
- 50:50I think he regrets not being emotionally available to Olivia, who, by the
- 50:53way, as a fucking psychic vampire. Yeah. I think he regrets not
- 50:58trying harder, doing better. I think, and I'm not sure how much
- 51:01of that is misplaced, right. I could tell you and remind everybody that
- 51:07I got really fucking annoyed at him season four because he's such an emotional cripple
- 51:10and he doesn't do the work to learn how to express himself in a healthy
- 51:15way. He just fucking gets mad and tomato faced, and he doesn't do
- 51:19anything constructive with it, and he's fucking getting cars and hiding it from his
- 51:22wife. You know, it's a symbol in their relationship, is working on
- 51:25cars of his neglect of her. So yeah, I mean, and so
- 51:30because it's a symbol, you got to talk to her about that shit like
- 51:32he's and he didn't, and he would get mad at her for having a
- 51:37reaction to his fuck shit. At the same time, of course, Olivia
- 51:40is toxic af She sucks. She's a piece of fucking shit. She was
- 51:45trying to drive a wedge between all of the kids and Kim and Barry.
- 51:49And that's true too. Both of those things are true. So I think
- 51:51he has some regrets, But I wonder how much responsibility he's taking on himself.
- 51:57And I would bet you Beatrice, she ain't taken any responsibility, Oh
- 52:00not at all. That's what I'm like, I'm wondering how season five is
- 52:05going to be with them, because it's got to show, it's got to
- 52:08show their relationship problems. I don't know if it'll show the divorce. I
- 52:12don't know if they want that public. Because she also did comment on his
- 52:15Instagram post. She didn't say anything, she just had a fucking fire emoji
- 52:19on there. And I think it's again. I think it's just all pr
- 52:22to act like they're still together, because like they're still connected somehow, maybe
- 52:27or maybe they're just separated again. I don't fucking know. I just want
- 52:30them to be done with each other because I think Ethan will be healthier.
- 52:34I think Olivia's going to go somewhere. Wellsphy, she's a same She's got
- 52:42her fucking photography business. She's doing fine on her own. She's fucking yeah
- 52:45she is. She's doing an Instagram white girl influence her bullshit. Okay,
- 52:50but like it's not the same money as you get after four seasons on TLC.
- 52:55The money as you negotiate what we're with Kate Goslin, they were making
- 52:59like twenty five thousand dollars an episode or yeah, they were, I mean,
- 53:01and I don't know how much the Browns are making, but like they're
- 53:05making some good money, yeah, I mean I plus it's fame. She's
- 53:09going to fade away into irrelevancy as soon as she's off our television screen,
- 53:15which is I think appropriate. I don't think she's gonna want to go anywhere,
- 53:17so I think she's going to try and stay fucking connect, whether it's
- 53:21to Mariah, who I think is seeing through her bullshit, yeah, or
- 53:24whether it's keeping Ethan on the hook because he's an emotionally stunted person. That's
- 53:30just unfortunate for Ethan, because get therapy, I mean, get therapy,
- 53:34Get divorce her ass and be alone for a while and grow up on your
- 53:38own, and then you can have a healthy relationship with somebody who gets you,
- 53:42gets how you deal with things, and can be healthy for you and
- 53:45call you out on your bullshit in a nice way so that way you actually
- 53:49get it. Like, he just needs to be with a healthy fucking partner.
- 53:52I'm not excusing Ethan and his bullshit. Obviously, he's a grown man.
- 53:55You can take accountability for your shit, and you need to be able
- 53:58to have that wherewithal to be like, yeah, I need therapy, my
- 54:02family's fucked up. My mom fucked me up. I need therapy and he's
- 54:07not doing that. But also, Olivia fucking sucks. Yeah, I think
- 54:10she could be a narcissist yahnestly. Yeah, so this this season is also
- 54:16going to be awesome. I think they are going to show this relationship.
- 54:19And remember how we left it last time, when we were fucking in Jamaica,
- 54:22r and um Mica and Mariah had had enough of fucking Olivia and then
- 54:25we got home and for Ethan's birthday, she took fucking Nathaniel or whatever her
- 54:30brother's Frankenstein whatever his name is, Bunding left separately than the family, like
- 54:37so dramalicious, Like we left off in a very dramatic place. Yeah,
- 54:40so I cannot wait for this season as well. Look, when we've got
- 54:45Sister Wives and Plathy running concurrently, we're just gonna be spazzing the entire week.
- 54:50Oh my god, We're gonna be having so much fun. Yes,
- 54:52these are the best shows we cover, I think, you know, for
- 54:55me, I love that, I love them. I love them. Temptasion
- 54:58Island is hard, girl, Becau because those people are so fucking dumb.
- 55:00I mean, the Browns. I mean, yeah, but I mean,
- 55:07if it's not the intelligence, yo over there. But there's just there's dimensionality
- 55:12to these relationships. Temptation Island, we got none of that. Oh my
- 55:15god, no brain cells? What's no brain cells? Just a lot of
- 55:19bumping and grinding baby and titties. So these shows are this is what I'm
- 55:22looking for, ya, why I'm looking the layers. Listen, you don't
- 55:27know when you're twenty five years old, Ethan Plath that this is actually a
- 55:30good thing, right. You think you're losing everything in life is never going
- 55:34to be the same or good again. You're very, very young. In
- 55:37ten years, you are going to be amazed at how much has changed in
- 55:40your life. And maybe you have a new wife, maybe you have kids.
- 55:44You're going to look back on Olivia and see her as we see her
- 55:46like she's fucking toxic. You don't need that shit in your life. Maybe
- 55:50Olivia grows too, maybe she becomes a better person. I was a train
- 55:53wreck when I was twenty five. I was fucking out of control one twenty
- 55:59five, yes, ma'am girl. So I mean, I'm just gonna give
- 56:01a little bit of gen X grace to these people. Not to Olivia.
- 56:06I don't care about her. You don't have to so many people like her.
- 56:08I know, I don't fucking get it. I wasn't Reddit and I
- 56:12was looking at the Welcome to Plathivill reddit and everyone is like in love with
- 56:15Olivia and if you say anything, you get credit, you get banned,
- 56:19dude. But there's also Plathiville snark, which is a different subreddit where you
- 56:22can say shit about Olivia. But then there's somebody on a campaign against Olivia
- 56:27on that one, and all they do is post about her. So it's
- 56:29just like, what the fuck. I don't get it. I don't get
- 56:31it. Crazy. It's a toxic fan base and that's what we love get
- 56:37all Right. Last thing we wanted to discuss in this episode, and we're
- 56:40not going to go super in depth because we're gonna talk about it in this
- 56:43month's Raccoon Kiki on Patreon, which, by the way, if you're not
- 56:46a patron, you ought to be, y ought to be go to patreon
- 56:51dot com slash reality TV cringe. Yes, but we wanted to talk about
- 56:54the Vice documentary on John and Kate plus eight, so I find we watched
- 57:00it. Yeah, I know, you watched it quite a while ago.
- 57:02What are some of your main takeaways about that show. I feel really bad
- 57:07for Colin, Yeah, because he's obviously the scapegoat child for Kate. I
- 57:13can have empathy for John. Although in this Vice documentary, who's talking about
- 57:17like how Kate took advantage of the kids with filming and stuff, and I'm
- 57:21like, you're doing that right now? Yeah, and you were there,
- 57:23right, weren't you there the entire time? You were also the adult.
- 57:28But I did like that John was owning up to some of his fuck ups
- 57:31with regards to their divorce and everything. I'm like, Okay, that's cool.
- 57:35Like I'm glad that you're grown up enough I guess to talk about it.
- 57:39But I wish Kate was involved in this documentary somehow. Well, she
- 57:44would just be lying though, I mean, I guess she'd just be covering
- 57:46for her abuse, which Colin called out. He called it by name,
- 57:50he said adhasive and he didn't elaborate, So we don't know if that's physical
- 57:53abuse, if that's emotional abuse, verbal abuse, but it's at the hand
- 57:58of Kate. And when he finally started to talk about the abuse to teachers,
- 58:04Yeah, and mandated reporters. She caught wind of it, and that's
- 58:07when she sent him away to the institution based on Colin. So that made
- 58:10me like sick in my stomach. Yeah, when he said that, I'm
- 58:15like, WHOA, that's fucked up. And he's gone for a year and
- 58:19a half, almost two years. John had to spend one million dollars to
- 58:22get him extricated from the fucking place. I mean, I'm one million dollars.
- 58:28And he even says it is way easier to get admitted to an institution
- 58:31than it is to get out of an institution. I believe it, dude.
- 58:35And Colin had to sneak a letter that he had to write in crayon,
- 58:38Yeah, to his dad, to his Kate never told him where Colin
- 58:45was. How can that be? Well, because she had full custody of
- 58:47all the fucking kids. She had legal custody. Yeah, but like he
- 58:51still had some kind of custody, didn't he know? In this Vice documentary
- 58:54it sounded like she had he had none. Well, but I mean there's
- 58:58different types of custody. Like one parent might have physical custody, meaning the
- 59:01kids live with that parent, but they both share joint custody or they both
- 59:06share legal custody. So I'm just wondering what the total custody picture was,
- 59:09because I don't think there's any reason John would not have any fucking custody,
- 59:15and he was going to their school and he was visiting them at lunchtimes.
- 59:19That's the only time he'd be able to see all the kids together. So
- 59:21it's not like he couldn't see the kids. Huh. So she was just
- 59:24keeping the kids away from him then, I don't know, like that was
- 59:29not clear to me. Yeah, what was happening with the custody at all.
- 59:32It feels like in this whole Vice documentary they were trying to like fit
- 59:37everything they could into one episode because they didn't have the money or I don't
- 59:44know that Vice didn't want to give them more airtime than that. But I
- 59:46wish I want them to come out with more ship. Oh yeah, I
- 59:50mean I wanted so much more from John. I think John had so much
- 59:53more to say it, and maybe he did say it and it was just
- 59:57edited down. Yeah maybe. And Colin and Hannah, and what I thought
- 1:00:00was super solid was Hannah's like the moment I found out that my brother had
- 1:00:05been in an institution. I bounced, I left my mother, and I
- 1:00:09didn't talk to her. Now now they're starting to talk to each other again
- 1:00:13after a couple of years. But Hannah's like, how the fuck can you
- 1:00:15do that to our brother? And nobody none of the kids knew where he
- 1:00:19was, none of us. He just stopped talking about him. She never
- 1:00:22told them where Colin was. And she even said that Colin was treated differently
- 1:00:25in the house, like he would eat separately from the rest of the kid,
- 1:00:30he couldn't eat at the same table, he couldn't go out and play
- 1:00:31with the other siblings, Like what the fuck, dude, And even on
- 1:00:36camera when they were showing some of the shots from when Colin must have been
- 1:00:38and I don't know Rennert, like eight nine ten, he's like sitting away.
- 1:00:44Yeah, he's looking away, he's not participating, he's not interacting because
- 1:00:47he didn't want to be on the cameras anymore, right, And so as
- 1:00:51soon as he started to do that, She's like, I have no use
- 1:00:53for you. I just I'm like, what goes on in Kate's head to
- 1:00:59just a by treating one kid like that, like singling them out, Because
- 1:01:04even in her bullshit narcissistic ass statement that she made on Instagram after this Vice
- 1:01:09documentary came out. She only bashed Colin. She didn't even mention Hannah,
- 1:01:15which I thought was really weird. I'm like, Hannah's also corroborating what Colin
- 1:01:19is, saying that you treated him differently, you abused him essentially, and
- 1:01:22you locked him up in a fucking institution for two years without any contact to
- 1:01:28the rest of the family. She's corroborating that. But yet you're only saying
- 1:01:31that Colin is the one fabricating reality. And also Maddie, who is Kate's
- 1:01:37little mini me, right, is Colin a racist, a transphobe, a
- 1:01:44homophobic, all of the things that we say in the Year of Our Lord
- 1:01:46twenty twenty three to get somebody canceled and unpersoned and invisible so that we don't
- 1:01:52have to listen to them. Oh my god, what you're a racist.
- 1:01:54We're not going to listen to anything you have. This is what they're trying
- 1:01:57to do. Totally. I am not saying that didn't do anything inappropriate.
- 1:02:00We wouldn't really know that, no, but it just seems really fucking convenient
- 1:02:05that we never saw that and then when you see Colin actually talking on camera,
- 1:02:08he's composed. Yeah, he's well spoken. He's actually charitable towards his
- 1:02:15mother. He hopes that he can have a relationship. He says, I
- 1:02:17think she has a good heart. Yeah, Like he's being very mature about
- 1:02:22this whole situation, even though his mom has treated him like shit. And
- 1:02:24when she released that statement on Instagram, he was gone at boot camp.
- 1:02:30He doesn't even know. He would not have known that, and he's not
- 1:02:34going to know that until he's out. So he hasn't responded because he can't
- 1:02:38respond. He's away right now in the Marines. And again, I just
- 1:02:43want to say one more time, the military doesn't tend to accept you if
- 1:02:46you have an extensive, extensive history of mental illness, if you're fucking acting
- 1:02:52out, if you're wilding out, if you're crazy, they don't want you.
- 1:02:55Typically maybe the Army does, but typically they don't. Was certainly not
- 1:02:59the Marines. And again, Colin was in the ROTC, he's in military
- 1:03:04programs. I just can't fucking see it. And then you see him on
- 1:03:07camera in this documentary and again he's composed, right, he seems kind I
- 1:03:14mean, for what he has been through. I mean, he seems like
- 1:03:17I'm just like, Wow, I can't believe you're this compassionate and again charitable
- 1:03:23to your mom I know, I don't get it. And to your other
- 1:03:27siblings who aren't talking to you. So Maddie Kara don't talk to him.
- 1:03:31I find that to be fucking despicable. And his other siblings, who must
- 1:03:37be eighteen right around nineteen, don't speak to him, but like they're still
- 1:03:40in the fog. They don't have enough life experience yet to realize what the
- 1:03:45fuck is happening. I'm hoping that they will come around and reach out to
- 1:03:49their brother. God, I really hope. So. The last experience that
- 1:03:53they've had with him was when he's like thirteen years old, before he's come
- 1:03:57into to an institution. They don't even know who he is, No,
- 1:04:00they don't, They have no idea. They just know what Kate has told
- 1:04:02them. And of course, Kate being a fucking nurse, I'm sure she
- 1:04:06told those psychiatrists exactly what they needed to hear at the institution to institutionalize him.
- 1:04:14He's abusive, he's violent, he has crazy behavior, he can't control
- 1:04:17his moods. Send him away by the time John gets to him at his
- 1:04:23second institution because he finds out where he is, or like, how does
- 1:04:27that happen where he's transferred from one institution to another one in Pittsburgh. I
- 1:04:31think Kate moved him because he found out, right, So even he's subpoenaing
- 1:04:38and he's going to court and he's asking for the information, so she has
- 1:04:41him moved. By the time John finally locates him and talks to the doctors
- 1:04:46at the second institution, he asks for a diagnosis and the doctor's like,
- 1:04:50well, we don't have one. We're in the process of trying to figure
- 1:04:54that out. Wow, So there's no fucking diagnosis. And John said,
- 1:04:58I didn't even recognize him. He didn't look like my son. And there's
- 1:05:02a picture of him. He must have been fourteen fifteen, Like his face
- 1:05:05looked swollen, and John's like, he was on so many medications for what
- 1:05:11that's Why is he being medicated, Britney spears fucking trips for real? Why
- 1:05:15is he being medicated without a diagnosis? This is fucking criminality. That's fucked
- 1:05:19up, girl. I want to tell all with Glin. I want him
- 1:05:24to spill all the fucking beans. I want to hear more ship from fucking
- 1:05:27John. I want to hear about like the rest of their divorce, Like
- 1:05:30why Kate moved to fucking North Carolina, Like was she purposely keeping all of
- 1:05:33the kids away from him? Probably? Probably? Like I just want to
- 1:05:36hear more about this fucking family. And I'm like, where's the culpability for
- 1:05:41TLC? Right, Like, of course John and Kate both signed away the
- 1:05:47rights of the children and it does rest with the parents. They're the ones
- 1:05:51that have legal authority to do this. But like, at what point is
- 1:05:55TLC responsible for really fucking exploiting these children? Right? And this actionable in
- 1:06:00any way? Can the kids come back around and fucking sue TLC. These
- 1:06:03kids should be able to fucking sue their parents if you ask me, totally,
- 1:06:08totally, and they should be able to sue TLC for filming Why are
- 1:06:11you filming me naked as a three year old on the fucking toilet and yeah,
- 1:06:16yeah, me and my poop, taking my pictures first poop in the
- 1:06:19potty with me and my fucking poop, And I mean, what the fuck
- 1:06:24TLC? Oh, my god, it's wild, so wild, it's wild.
- 1:06:29And so if you're a patron. You know that we are covering John
- 1:06:32and Kate Plusate, and I think we're in season two right now, and
- 1:06:36I think there are what five seasons of John and Kate plus Yeah, and
- 1:06:41then we go over to Kate plus, So we're committed to continuing to following.
- 1:06:45I might need a break from her after season too. Honestly, maybe
- 1:06:47we could just throw in some Gypsy sisters, which is even more talk,
- 1:06:54just like a little bit of a break, because she's she's fucking terrible,
- 1:06:57dude, she's awful, She's eve. I know it's surprised Millet doesn't surprise
- 1:07:00me. But you know what I didn't know was that when she was pregnant
- 1:07:04with her sex tuplets, she actually reached out to like local papers and journalists,
- 1:07:12yeah, to ask them to cover her family. Interesting. Yeah,
- 1:07:15so she from the very beginning with planting the seeing the spotlight. Yeah,
- 1:07:21total narcissistic behavior, I guess. But I mean, like, I don't
- 1:07:26know, we'll get into it on the Keiki. We'll talk about it more
- 1:07:28on the Kiki. Yeah, there are several things that I kind of want
- 1:07:30to go over, but yeah, I thought it was good. And raccoons
- 1:07:34if you guys haven't watched it. I think it's on Hulu, I'm not
- 1:07:36sure, but on Vice okay, but I've been sending people the links on
- 1:07:41Instagram. So if you want it, go on to reality TV cringe on
- 1:07:45Instagram and I will DMU the link to watch it for free. Yeah.
- 1:07:48Yeah. And there were no commercials, which is awesome, and I was
- 1:07:51enlightened. I wanted more and I would like to tell all and I would
- 1:07:55like a book. I mean, but I mean, isn't that always the
- 1:07:56case? To me? I want to eat the dress, But I honestly
- 1:08:00feel like, as just as a person, I feel bad, dude,
- 1:08:03for me, Hannah, for Colin, for the rest of those kids,
- 1:08:06even for Maddie. She's been indoctrinated by this narcissist, totally fucking culty narcissist,
- 1:08:12and I just I want them to have a nice life and be happy.
- 1:08:15And Colin deserves that. He was in a fucking car wrec late twenty
- 1:08:19twenty two, like a really bad one, and his mom didn't even reach
- 1:08:23out, and none of his siblings did. He could have died. What
- 1:08:25the fuck that's so messed up. I feel bad for him. At least
- 1:08:29he's got his dad. Yeah, at least he has Hannah. Yeah man,
- 1:08:32poor kid. Yeah. Well that's all the goss and information that we
- 1:08:38have for this episode. Yeah, but it was fun just talking about this
- 1:08:42ship because I could live for it in a breathe girl. Just as a
- 1:08:49reminder, we will be back on Monday slash Tuesday, depending on whether you're
- 1:08:53a patron. We are still covering whole island, although we are fucking irreverent
- 1:08:57about it. We are not like doing a forensic exploration of people's vaginas anymore.
- 1:09:01We're just doing broad strokes and getting super crazy and drunk yeah um,
- 1:09:05and having fun. And then we'll be back next week, I don't know,
- 1:09:09Wednesday or Thursday, Friday, to maybe do a little bit more gossip
- 1:09:12because after that girl, we've got ninety day Beyonce the last resort. Are
- 1:09:16we going to watch that dumpster fire? Yeah, bitch, we said we
- 1:09:19would. Did you see Angela Deem got in a fucking argument or just like
- 1:09:24a fight with somebody at some cocktail party like yesterday? Did somebody drag her
- 1:09:29ass? She looked so bad? What do you mean, Oh my god,
- 1:09:31is somebody drag her as? No, she didn't like drag. She
- 1:09:33was dragging other people's ass. But like, Angela just looks so gross,
- 1:09:38dude, like she literally, so are you trying to back out? I'm
- 1:09:42trying to understand what the fuck is going on. I'm just like starts in
- 1:09:44August fourteenth. Girl, I'm gearing up for the track. Listen, we'll
- 1:09:46watch it, Okay. I'm just so begrudge Angela because Angela is just the
- 1:09:51word. You don't have to talk about her. I came into the void.
- 1:09:56I might talk about her. Well, yeah, she is terrible.
- 1:09:59I might have to mention it. We are in a dumpster, after all.
- 1:10:01I was saying on the into waves that Mikel's not going to be on
- 1:10:05there. Yeah, I think she's going to be. It's just she's gonna
- 1:10:10be, That's what I thought, because they didn't feature, like I didn't
- 1:10:12see him. Yeah, but I think she's just going to be in the
- 1:10:15resort with everybody else causing fucking trouble. And I know it is so bad,
- 1:10:23and I know it is really wrong, but I'm here for it.
- 1:10:27I mean, if she could drag big ed honey, oh my god,
- 1:10:30please imagine if she targeted the right people. I mean, I wouldn't be
- 1:10:33mad at it be a dress that would be really great. So I mean
- 1:10:39that's August fourteenth, and then right after that girl Sister six days later is
- 1:10:45Sister Wives. I'm counting down the days, bitch. Yes, So we'll
- 1:10:47be back on Monday. We'll be back next week to talk about bullshit,
- 1:10:51and then we are getting back into all the trash that's fit to eat.
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