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Patriots Unfiltered 12/6: Previewing the Steelers, Could We See Improvement from Bailey Zappe and the Offense? · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 6: Does do we sell the hurry?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh more so.
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  Speaker 7: They lost the game because they didn't play complimentary football.
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  Speaker 1: But they moved the ball. It was noted in post
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  Speaker 1: and fifty yards moving the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Evan is ma'am, Yes, sir, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's all I mean. And you we stepped all
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  Speaker 1: over from that was brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Seven hundred percent improvement for the Patriots this week. But
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  Speaker 2: they lose sixteen to seven.
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  Speaker 6: Well, this is than seven hundred percent of zero.
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  Speaker 1: Still zeroee Steve Malone, He's on a roll.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Wednesday here at
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  Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium, a travel day for the team. So it's Deuce, Tamaraw, Evan, Paul,
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  Speaker 2: myself as usual. However, Evan and I will be uh
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  Speaker 2: getting out of here pretty soon because we get to
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  Speaker 2: get on the bus, So I'll leave you with Deuce Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: Paul and Matisse we'll join in go to the b Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's still a full show even without Evan and I.
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  Speaker 2: But we got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: Here, right Oh yeah, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, you're about to go there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Mitch Trubisky, Yeah maybe no, Naji Harris, you missed practiced yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: so uh, we're having a dueling top running backs being out.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, but you know, when you look at the matchups,
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  Speaker 2: advantage quarterback Steelers, even though it's Mitch Trubisky and he's
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  Speaker 2: won games in the NFL.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he's he's won two games in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I stand corrected. I stand correct.
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  Speaker 7: Risky might be two and like twenty somethings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I stand corrected.
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  Speaker 6: He gave them a hard time at Chicago. It's what
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  Speaker 6: in seventeen, twenty, seventeen, twenty eight always.
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  Speaker 2: Comes the well, you got to you gotta check, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta be checked.
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  Speaker 7: That was my first trip to Soldier Field.
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  Speaker 1: Played well in that game, you're right, Well, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: well he was.
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  Speaker 7: He ran a lot in that game, and I think
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  Speaker 7: that's a big thing for the Patriots this week. You know,
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  Speaker 7: the one thing that he can do is he can
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  Speaker 7: extend plays with his legs. He can run, he can scramble,
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  Speaker 7: and he can get outside the pocket. Peterson on our teams, Yes,
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  Speaker 7: for Darryl.
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  Speaker 1: He returned to kick game. Trubisky is thirty one and
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  Speaker 1: twenty four as a starter.
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  Speaker 2: Really in his career.
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  Speaker 1: That's he has a winning record thirty one and twenty four.
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  Speaker 6: It's a big difference between and twenty.
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  Speaker 7: What's a winning record.
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  Speaker 1: He was eleven and three in eighteen wow, eight and seven,
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  Speaker 1: the next year six and three, uh, and then two
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  Speaker 1: and three last year.
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  Speaker 7: Some people say they gave up on him too fast.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well maybe what he had like the year in
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  Speaker 6: Buffalo and now he's been in Pittsburgh for for this
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  Speaker 6: is second season.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's correct.
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  Speaker 2: So they've got the experience at the quarterback position in
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  Speaker 2: this game.
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  Speaker 5: We also have better weapons.
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  Speaker 2: They have better weapons, so their offense better than our offense.
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  Speaker 6: We know.
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  Speaker 7: This is where this is.
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  Speaker 2: I think defense is a toss up, right, our defense
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  Speaker 2: their defense. I don't know. I mean t J.
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  Speaker 6: Wats really, I mean, I mean, I think it would
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  Speaker 6: probably tip it a little bit in their favor, just
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  Speaker 6: because I mean, if the Patriots had Jude on maybe
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  Speaker 6: it's almost comparable. But I think T. J. Watt's just
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  Speaker 6: too good right now. He's he's the best player on defense.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, yeahs defense really good. Their front is probably one
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  Speaker 7: of the best that they've played all year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, the offenses don't play each other.
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  Speaker 2: So their offense, their defense against our offense, our defense
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  Speaker 2: against their offense. I think they have the advantage because
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  Speaker 2: our offense just doesn't score points. Yeah, you know that's
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  Speaker 2: the place, isn't either, Well, this could literally not as
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  Speaker 2: bad as us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no will last right, what are they like, did
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  Speaker 1: you look that up there? They thirtieth something like that,
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  Speaker 1: and who have they been playing teams teams.
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  Speaker 5: Without their starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, they beat the Bengals, but cool, but Joe
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  Speaker 9: Burrow wasn't playing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the other kids pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they they scored sixteen in that game, and
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  Speaker 1: then Jacksonville scored thirty one on in the next game.
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  Speaker 7: So they're they're twenty eighth and scoring.
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  Speaker 1: So they're so they don't score, they're averaging.
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  Speaker 7: Sixteen a game. They fired their offensive coordinator two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they went fifty nine games without getting even
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  Speaker 1: four hundred yards in one game. So Paul, you're saying
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  Speaker 1: there's a chance, I definitely think this.
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  Speaker 9: Is I'm saying this could be another six nothing game.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When the other team can't score, the game is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I choose, we made our pitch. We did our pitch yesterday, Freddy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I picked Pittsburgh. So I'm not telling you I think
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to win. But I think what
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  Speaker 1: Tamara said is very accurate. When neither team scores a lot,
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  Speaker 1: anything can happen. You know, anybody can win turnovers.
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  Speaker 6: Right, I guess I did a little digging though. Did
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  Speaker 6: you know you got to go back all the way
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  Speaker 6: to the twenty eleven Rams to find an offense that
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  Speaker 6: average under.
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  Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, who was the coordinator of that
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  Speaker 1: off I don't recall, you don't recall my shots fired?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody lost their job because what.
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  Speaker 1: Offensive system did that team try to use? I pleaded
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  Speaker 1: the fifth, Oh, that would be Josh McDaniels.
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  Speaker 6: But there hasn't been a team under thirteen points over twelve.
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  Speaker 7: I looked this up the other day because to put
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  Speaker 7: in perspective for the Patriots, the last Patriots offense to
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  Speaker 7: score this few points per game Rod Rust, the Rod
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  Speaker 7: rust yere Yeah, nineteen and correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Based off record, it's the worst Patriots season ever.
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  Speaker 1: But based off of that's the worst team ever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So that's the worst Patriots team ever. And you are
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  Speaker 7: neck and neck right now and scoring with the Rod
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  Speaker 7: Rust Patriots, Like just that's just.
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  Speaker 6: Why it's historically bad. It's historically bad for them especially.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, like you have to after that, you have to
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  Speaker 7: go back to like, you know, the sixties and like
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  Speaker 7: bo Polini and stuff, like you were talking about a
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  Speaker 7: different type of football at that point. So like you
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  Speaker 7: you're really like.
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  Speaker 1: Did you mean to say babe, yeah or whatever?
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  Speaker 7: I literally I was born in nineteen ninety two.
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  Speaker 1: Year is actually a person. Yeah who He was a
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  Speaker 1: linebackers coach here. He ended up being as head coach
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  Speaker 1: for a while.
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  Speaker 7: See anyone was talking about and.
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  Speaker 2: Fred will tell you not a fan of the No, No,
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  Speaker 2: I have a funny Bopolini story. If anyone's into Bay.
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  Speaker 7: Perley whatever, same thing. Anyway, all the same people to
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  Speaker 7: me back when the Patriots stunted.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be another game that puts NFL
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  Speaker 2: football back thirty years forty years.
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  Speaker 6: Oh in on Thursday night too, so you got that
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  Speaker 6: that element added.
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night games tend to be lower scoring, although last
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  Speaker 1: week's was high scoring forty one thirty five.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have a weather report for tomorrow night?
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  Speaker 6: No, that's a good question. I thought you guys might
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  Speaker 6: be on that. You guys are headed there in a minute.
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  Speaker 7: No, I don't even want to look.
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  Speaker 2: He's that for that?
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  Speaker 6: If only there was a way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So it looks like it's going to be yeah,
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  Speaker 7: pretty nice in terms of like Pittsburgh this time of
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  Speaker 7: year of course on Friday when we're not going to
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  Speaker 7: be there. It's going to be sixty. So oh, I
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  Speaker 7: could have had a nice.
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  Speaker 6: Day on the Pittsburgh in December sixty.
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  Speaker 2: Driving thriving up from the Capes.
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  Speaker 1: Very underrated place, that's what everybody's.
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  Speaker 2: Talking abou from the Cape this morning. You would think
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  Speaker 2: it never snowed before it was. I'm literally they closed
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  Speaker 2: the Bourne Bridge because it was too icy. Really, they
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  Speaker 2: putdn't didn't put salt down or whatever. So I had
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  Speaker 2: to loop around. It took me two hours to get here.
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  Speaker 6: Yikes, Which you gotta go. You gotta loop back to
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  Speaker 6: the Saga. But you're close to the Sagamore anyway, Why
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  Speaker 6: did you go down the road?
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: I went over the Sagamore and then I go over
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  Speaker 2: to the Bourne. But that's where the problem was. So
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  Speaker 2: I had to loop back and take those back roads
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  Speaker 2: to get to Cranberry Highway.
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  Speaker 6: You know that used to be how you had to
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  Speaker 6: get to the Bourne Bridge, the Cranberry Highway right you
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  Speaker 6: through Wearing.
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  Speaker 7: Is that a real place or is that like you
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  Speaker 7: know in Candy Landers, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of Cranberry.
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  Speaker 1: So can you just tell how excited to marry it
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  Speaker 1: is just for this game.
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  Speaker 7: I'm upset you're not.
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  Speaker 1: I wish you could go.
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  Speaker 2: Then your car start driving.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely my max. My max for road trips is like
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  Speaker 9: two hours to reader have a responsibility to.
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  Speaker 7: I used to drive to Anthaica, New York.
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  Speaker 1: It's six hours.
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  Speaker 2: No, But listen, you get your good podcast going.
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  Speaker 9: Good control. Why am I wasting time?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're not wasting time. You're it's your time when
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  Speaker 2: you're in your car. When you're in a plane, it's
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  Speaker 2: their time. They control you. When you're in a car,
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  Speaker 2: you control the situation.
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  Speaker 6: But mister hand, if we're all here, isn't it time
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  Speaker 6: for me?
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  Speaker 1: If anything here and Belichick's here, doesn't that make it
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  Speaker 1: our time?
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  Speaker 2: No? But for me anything less than four hours i'm driving,
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: The ability to have my car, I think.
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  Speaker 5: Is how long is to drive Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's probably more like seven hours Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 7: But well, the thing too about like you know, we
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  Speaker 7: do this not to complain by any means, but you know,
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  Speaker 7: by the time you get on the plane, you go
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  Speaker 7: through security, like you really start to do the math.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 2: We have to get on the bus by twelve thirty one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to get into Pittsburgh to what five.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to do it for Jets games once
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  Speaker 1: in a while. We would actually calculate it and absolutely
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  Speaker 1: if you drove, you could get there fast. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like so if I started driving at ten o'clock this morning,
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  Speaker 2: I'd beat the team to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 5: But you also left earlier.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: I know, but so, but you could mean Pittsburgh is not.
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  Speaker 1: But like we used to do it for the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: like calculating the time that you got through security here
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  Speaker 1: at the stadium onto the bus if you would if
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  Speaker 1: you left and drove, you could get there the same time.
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: I guess for me, I'm like spoiled one.
• 10:40
  Speaker 9: Providence Airport is like the size of this room, and
• 10:42
  Speaker 9: I show up when my flight is boarding, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Providence is a breeze's.
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  Speaker 9: And I have to pre check, so I literally just
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  Speaker 9: like walk straight through it on the plane.
• 10:49
  Speaker 6: You like professional plane traveler.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I am, Well, she travels a lot and that would
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: do anything not to have to take a commercial flight again.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: The Patriots have completely ruined me for travel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I do not want to travel commercially ever again. And
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I spy having to do it.
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  Speaker 7: I get a lot of flak at the at the
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  Speaker 7: family dinner table for bringing that up because we were
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  Speaker 7: going to Germany and I was like, oh and I
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  Speaker 7: had to fly commercial and my parents won't wanted to
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  Speaker 7: murder me. They were like excuse me, and I was like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I get for that too, but I hate it. I
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  Speaker 1: hate having to do it. Probably going to be taking
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of trips this uh you know what as
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: soon as the season's over too looking forward to.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: You know, we got spoiled on chartists. Can you imagine
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: how these rich people get spoiled with their own jets?
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Oh you know I can, yeah, yeah, but they can
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  Speaker 1: do that every time they want.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know, but like imagine if like the jet
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't I don't have the option to take. Imagine if
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: the grounded one day and they had to fly commercial, they.
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  Speaker 7: Get a new one going through the terminal.
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  Speaker 6: My old job, my bosses used to say private flights,
• 11:54
  Speaker 6: and I would like see the bill for you know,
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  Speaker 6: just like the gas alone was like twenty times what
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: our vacation wouldn't even caught. But yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's the uh, what is one of those net jets costs?
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  Speaker 2: Like is it like fifty grand to go.
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  Speaker 6: Like where you're in like kind of a group of
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  Speaker 6: people and you all kind of split. Yeah, I mean honestly,
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  Speaker 6: the like just the one off to like Cabo was
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  Speaker 6: like thirty five thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty five.
• 12:15
  Speaker 7: Well, because like when we fly in places we like,
• 12:19
  Speaker 7: we often go to like the private part of the
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  Speaker 7: airport and so like you see like all of like
• 12:24
  Speaker 7: those especially in like places like Vegas and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 7: where there are a lot of the private jets and
• 12:28
  Speaker 7: they're all just like lined up and they're too small
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  Speaker 7: for me, Like I I would, I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Want to fill everything on the Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But if the jets ten and it's thirty five thousand,
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  Speaker 2: you split it thirty five hundred per person. That's still
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  Speaker 2: a lot higher than if you paid for flight, But
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: it might be worth it if you really want.
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  Speaker 6: The smallest jets are offered.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what ten people?
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying it's sixty seven hundred an hour for the
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  Speaker 8: smallest jet. They offered sixty seven hours jet.
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  Speaker 6: Oh wow, and that's I don't even know if that
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  Speaker 6: includes gas too, Like the gas jumped out at me
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: like that was like enough their surch charge in there
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: that you're like, whoa, that's anyway.
• 13:02
  Speaker 10: We're.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Travel talk.
• 13:06
  Speaker 7: That's what happens when you're two.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Nothing like nothing like the Army Navy game to get
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: a little spruce up of the surface.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: I can't get one of those shots. I feel like
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one in the stadium that does not
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: have that shirt.
• 13:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't get Yeah, they don't have any You
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: know why.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like it?
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I do fake? So did you not take us?
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Can I take us?
• 13:24
  Speaker 9: Then?
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what Evidently everybody got one I didn't.
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: It was like an ice cream social Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that was downstairs. Then, like, no one.
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  Speaker 7: Cares you were you know, it was a wind He
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  Speaker 7: didn't get the in because he's downstairs.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be here.
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  Speaker 2: You had to go upstairs with I think it was
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  Speaker 2: a Monday.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't there was it was?
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  Speaker 5: It was ice cream?
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: How did it not catch you?
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: I went up there and I didn't even have the
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  Speaker 7: ice cream.
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  Speaker 1: Which now, now, in all seriousness, does it make any
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  Speaker 1: sense to anybody that I passed up for the ice cream?
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  Speaker 6: No, that's come on, That's what I was wondering. But
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: they did put out a bunch of new stuff yesterday
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: in the pro shops. So if you want some Army
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: Navy swag, come on down to Patriot's Place, although it's
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: gonna be a little crazy, and we're.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: A company here repainting the hole. The whole service tunnel
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: is being redone, and I assume because of Army Navy.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: And then you know the E three carter. Did you
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  Speaker 2: see the new Yeah, we did that was pretty cool. Cool,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely color, very cool. We have like murals on the
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: walls as you walk down this one hallway and it's
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: like Tom Brady and Julian Edelman and Tom Brady, it's
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: the revs and monster you know, things that have happened
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  Speaker 2: here in uh the stadium. And they change one of
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  Speaker 2: the walls to all Army Navy guys in their uniforms
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  Speaker 2: and it's really cool. Yeah. The other ones are like
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: two tone. These are color yeah, really pop.
• 14:42
  Speaker 7: I wasn't sure if we were to talk about those
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: murals like publicly, so I never brought this up. But
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: going from Damien Harris to the Brady on the week
• 14:51
  Speaker 7: one this year photo that we have up there now
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: was like the that's the biggest upgraded like you ever
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: could possibly.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Can think Smith no sucks like Matt, it was tireless
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: and trying to get that replaced, and they finally did
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: it played the Bills.
• 15:04
  Speaker 7: That's a fantastic picture of Brady on the podium, like
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: addressing the crowd on in week one, and then we
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: go to that from no offense.
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: Wow, it's crazy. How much like that that was the
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: first game of the season. Like I just like time
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: goes by three years ago. Yes, yes, I mean I
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: remember seeing Brady. I mean that's you know, it does.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: The season goes by fast, it does, but that particular
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: moment seems like it was so long ago to me.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: It seems like yesterday.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: But I do agree with you, Freddy. The season, the
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: NFL season goes by very fast.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Well, and part of it, like to me, the Brady
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: thing was yesterday because everything in between was forgettable.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point, you know, it's a good point.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, Buffalo's win was was cool for me just
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: because my kids were there and we have all games
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: for them to have a first Patriot Like.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Deuce's kids go to the game. It's twenty nine, twenty five.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: My kid goes to the game with six nothing and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I got a right, I got a bike. Was awesome.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: And then and the kids were sitting right above where
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: the Kasiki touchdown happened, and they got a great video.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: What's up was looking at us through the window, looking
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: at us like, who are these.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: It was just paying paying morel money. Evidently just get
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: me lunched. I'm sure that's what it was.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Morning he stole that started the whole thing. Um all right,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Pass five hundred is the ace ticket hot line getting
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: back to the Patriots in football anything we need to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: know that's occurred this week. I know it's been a
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: short week.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: John Jones, did you guys ever talking about that Walter.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Payton Man of the Year. Yeah, So he's the Patriots
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: nominee for Walter Payton Man of the Year, which is
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a big deal. You know, the winner, the league winner
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: of that goes to the Super Bowl and gets awarded
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. So the Patriots nominee is John
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Jones the year.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: He does so much in the community.
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: I'm like, how do you have time, especially like here
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: back home at Auburn.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Like y nice little piece on pages dot com about that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So that's nice.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Football wise, practice was later yesterday, So Evan's update it would.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Have been a good one too, a good one.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: There's a couple of things going on. I would say.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: The biggest thing is, you know, sometimes we we see
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: the kickers and they'll be kicking.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: As opposed kicking as opposed to like, you know, doing
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. All.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: They were kicking as they tend to do. But the
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: person that was place kicking was not one rookie young
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: Chad Ryland.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Was the other dude.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: It was the other kicker, Matthew.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: Matthew Wright on the practice squad. Now, who does have
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: some NFL experience, He has you kicked in regular season
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: games before. So just the one little snap shot, like
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to sit here and tell you that
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: they're benching Ryland or anything quite yet, but they showed
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: very little confidence in him last week. I felt like
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: in a couple of instances, I would.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Agree, well, I mean, did you I don't know if
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: he was on this show or one of Paul's shows,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: but somebody said Ryland in pregame missed five straight.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Down all of the gents. I'm not sure if Evan
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: did as well, but everybody was chronicling his pregame routine
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and everybody said he missed like five out of six.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was something deep like.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Fifty three.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why you know they didn't kick. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: think it was like a fifty three or fifty four
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: yard field that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Was a shorter one than that that they they went
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: for it went for a fourth down that would have
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: been like a forty eight.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: Yard Okay, maybe that was it. And Bill after the
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: game said he wasn't making him in pregames, so we
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: we didn't trust him to make it in the game.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: And I think that there's a chance, there's a chance
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: that it's a competition at least, and they're you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: we're giving right some some practice reps.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: How do people feel about that? Out of curiosity? Yeah?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I know, is that the best way? Like, I mean,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: if if they were ten and two, I would absolutely like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: this is what you'd have to do. You'd probably have
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: already made a move and try to get him on
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: your practice squad so if you can get his head
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: straight whatever. But at two and ten, is that the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: best way to handle a rookie?
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: You can see what you're getting at. I don't know's
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: that's I think a good question. I mean, you want
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: to see him work through it. You invested a draft
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: pick in this kid, you know you like him. It's
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: got a good leg.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. But the other
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: way to look at it is the rest of the team.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Am I doing a disservice to the rest of the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: team by just protting out this guy that can't make
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: kicks when we're involved in We're involved in ten seven,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: ten six games, nothing where every point is critical.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm letting down eleven games of pathetic, I know, but I'm.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Not doing what I have to do at that position.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I let it down.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: You did that for a million weeks with Mac Jones,
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: So why not let Chad Ryland have the same amount
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: of Well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I could make the same argument with Mac Jones. Maybe
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that was mishandled as well.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: Well, that was mishand for you know every angle.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: But why do it wrong twice?
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm just saying, like you, you trade it up
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: in the fourth round. He's an asset that you thought
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: enough of to do that for, and now he's struggling.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make excuses for him. He hasn't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: kicked well, he's been very erratic, a couple of really
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: short ones. He's missed the last two times that he's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: been out there. But are you ready to sort of change?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah for good?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: No, but right now I'd like to Right now, I'd
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like to win a game or two.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, But my point is what's more important him long
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: term or winning a game.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Or two him long term?
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Is there?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Kickers, I've got all off season to work with him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's not really going to do it. I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: know he's going to be somebody this could this.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We're already hearing defense bitching about the offense that we
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: have to be perfect, you know what, And.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to bring out I've about had it
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: with that too. Okay, that'll be another.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I'll get into that. But you know where where points
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: are at a premium, I have to think about the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: entire team, and like, I'm not going to be working
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: on this one guy because I traded up in the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: fourth round in forfeit a game and that's just not
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: fair to everybody.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I didn't say to forfeit a game, like don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: do it? Make it an indie argument like okay, so
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: we have no chance to win because Chad Ryland is
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on the team. Now, I'm forfeiting today.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: But but I have a less chance if I don't
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: have a field goal kicker who can make field goals.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You know, So it's you can you can argue either way,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: but I can see this, you know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you have designs in this guy
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: being part of your future, I don't know if this
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: is the best thing for him, for you know, mentally,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very very mental position.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: There are kickers that have had bad starts to their
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: careers and then all of a sudden turned into great
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: kicker and what really brought the city first.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Of all, well, it might be for this season, it
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: is that might mean the end. That's exactly what Evan's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: talking about. And I think, first of all, I'm just
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: bringing it up as a you know, as they like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to say, facility.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: We don't have a lot to argue about.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily arguing with you about it. I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: just asking if it's the best way to handle it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And what got it on my radar I think was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: either last Friday or the friday before when Bill started
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: being asked about it, and he I think it was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: last Friday, he mentioned a lot of guys that were
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: really successful kickers in this league did not have that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: success with their original team. They go to another team
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and they end up, you know, panning out. Now, Nick
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Folk was good with a lot of teams, but there's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that really were terrible when they
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: first got in the league and ended up having long,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: successful careers. And I wonder, is that what the plan is?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Like you have to accept the fact that it's not
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: going to work here. He might go somewhere else and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it might pan out for him. And I'm not arguing necessarily,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, is that where we're going?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I think right now that may I think right now,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: all Bill is thinking about is I need a guy
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: who can make a field goal and you know, we
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: can make a forty eight yard or when we need it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And he's he's thinking about the now. I you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's thinking about twenty twenty four or
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: his future, Ryland's future. I just think he's thinking about
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I got a bunch of guys in this team that
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: would love to get a win, and I'm the coach,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and it's up to me to find a way to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: get a win. And you can make the same argument
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that he didn't pull the plug, you know, fast enough
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: with Matt Jones.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I get that that's the counter I get it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that's your argument.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: That that's almost the the challenge for Bill as being
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: the GM and the coach is that he had I
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: think sometimes that that's another thing that kind of gets in.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: The way a little bit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Is like to hear and now matters to build a coach,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: But Bill, a GM needs to take a total you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: has to take that bird's eye view of it. And
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: so these decisions I think sometimes necessarily even knocking him
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: for it, because that's a tough spot to be it. Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: you know that the team right now might be dying
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: for a win, but really if you're in the long term,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: it's probably better they lose. Like that's just the reality.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Like I've said before, you know, Pittsburgh beating Pittsburgh tomorrow
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: night does not help them in any way, shape or form. Now,
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: if you tell me that they upset the Chiefs in
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: a couple of weeks and that like the Buffalo game
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: is kind of like a feel good win for the team,
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: then fine. But losing. You know, winning these types of
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: games are the games that are gonna matter.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And I also get an email that we're going to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: miss the bus. Actually that's what Neil Perry just emails.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. Better get going,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: all right, right, I.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Was under I was under the gun. I only had
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: twenty six minutes, but I did. I did get Fred
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to yell at me, So I'm glad that I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah, what the situation. Like I said,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that feels wrong for wanting to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: make a change. Maybe he's decided. I'm just wondering in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you know, to Evan's point about the you know, winning
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the game or losing the game. Yeah, that's that's probably
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: not in the best interest of the team. You probably
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: want to continue to keep that draft position as high
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: as you can. But I would argue that even if
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: even Thursday night, like tomorrow night, if you could win
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the game thirty one twenty seven, I think you could
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: get something out of that. Now, we were talking about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it during that Chargers game in the fourth quarter. My god,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: don't score now, like, don't win this game seven to six,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's a miserable game and you've got
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: nothing out of it, you know, And the only thing
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that was accomplished was that you hurt your draft position.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Whereas if you could somehow, you know, have a really
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: good offensive game, you could talk yourself into Okay, the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: offense has been miserable, but we're finally showing signs of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: life here and we're scoring some points. Like I could
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I could get behind some wins that way.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of the kicker, I just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: think it's such a mental position. Yeah, and that gets
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in his head now, you know, he's already you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he's already got struggling because he's not making enough kicks.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if that's maybe gonna be the end
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for him in New England.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Plus part, if you make a change, we don't know
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: what's going on in practice too, Like what.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's struggling. I'm not trying to make excuses
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: for Chad Ryland. He hasn't done the job. You know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's a results oriented business
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and he hasn't done the job.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: No, I mean the Bearinger's been up and.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He's been up and down, but he's been better than Ryan.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so tis welcome in you guys. We've got matist
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Bauman here. You know his voice from the p U
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: halftime show. Face real. You've been on the show before though,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: been a while.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Like all the draft podcasts, I'm
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: not sure how we don't do enough video for those.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: That's he just wants to come down and replay his
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: greatest hits of players that he loved.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: The late round.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Guy Quinton Johnston was right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: He thinks it was Eldred online. So I had I
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: had a thing. You know, we hear people talk and
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: you see little clips on Twitter and stuff, and I saw,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: you know, Tommy Current kind of thrown out there of
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Mac being the bridge quarterback. Did you see this yesterday?
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: I think it was next year?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Mike, do you remember last week? I told
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you I wouldn't have been stunned if he played, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: by the way he was active, Like, I do not
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: rule out that possibility at all.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: I don't either, And I mean I think I was
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: more okay with it, like you know, a couple of
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: months ago, and I've slowly been like how can they
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: and that, and like just in the question that kind
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: of came to me was just I get I get it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: Like you know, I get why you would say this,
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: but I also just how do you sell that to
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: the team.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. If you have the the option
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: between Mac Jones and any other veteran guy, I would
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I would offer the other one, even if I think
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is better. Like, yeah, like, you know what
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I think of Baker Mayfield, Like, if you get stuck
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and you have nobody, I'd rather have Baker Mayfield. You know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: if you get stuck and you have nobody, I'd rather
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: have Jimmy Garoppolo. I think those guys are done. Like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't think. I don't have any illusions.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you couldn't draft a quarterback and you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: have nobody to play like Bailey z Appy in Baker
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Mayfield to me would be better than Bailey's Appy and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agreed. You gotta like sit down with your
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: bril peppers and be like, so.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonnas, this is what this is what we're gonna do.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do what now.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: I I did see we were in the locker room
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: yesterday and like and Mac was like out on the
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: field by himself, like still putting work in like he was.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: You know, we could see him through the windows when
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: we went out.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Like that's when I feel bad he's and you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it's that human part of it. It makes me feel
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like I have empathy for him because I do know
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that it means a lot to him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Do you think he do you think he plays again
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: this year this year, like maybe Bailey rolls ankle.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I think he definitely plays again this year. There's five
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: more games. I kind of they just got shut up.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I say, no, unless something happens to Bailey, like unless
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: you like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: What about like Bailey, Zappy just does nothing like I
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: mean just like last week, like it's just nothing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: It's like Evan said, nothing's kind of good sometimes.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: So I feel like he's not.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: He hasn't done anything to hurt the team, like in
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: terms of like throwing with just like bad interceptions, like
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: Mac just keeps doing that over and over and over,
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: and it's like we don't really need.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: To see it. I said on the field, it was
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Zappy was getting grabbed around the ankle and he just
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: went down and took the sack, and I was like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: that's the difference right there, Mac would just.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Oh you would have it up and it would have
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: been a pick.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: So yeah, those bad plays, I mean, no question, but
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: I just I mean, we were talking about in the
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: locker room a little bit and I just said, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: it's like for every bit of criticism that we've thrown
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: and lobbed in Mac Jones's direction, some of it right
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: and some of it wrong. Like I've just never questioned
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: his like work ethic, like he's always that's.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Why done everything you ask I kind of feel, yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: like you know, so the quarterback that replaced him went
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: out did absolutely nothing and is considered But no, no, no,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it's his job.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: You got to keep him in.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: I know, I feel like it's tough because it's he's
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: working hard, but like there's no change notice on the field,
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: Like that's that's what's tough with Mac. It's like, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: he's putting in the hours in the time. He's not
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: like playing video games and having to get written in
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: his contract that he needs to write more, watch more film.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: That's not the problem.
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: But when he's on the field, it's like, why are
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: we not noticing any change?
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Study a task is still failing, especially like off the buy,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I felt like because I don't know what I was expecting,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: not that I was expecting anything. I was just maybe,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: you know, fooling myself of maybe maybe this week off
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: helped him, and you know, it couldn't have gone any
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: worse than it did in Germany, you know, And but
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: he just came out and it was the same exact thing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: That's just what why can't he break that cycle? You know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: that's a great question. There are some there are there
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: are some positives for him, but I mean, then Devin
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: mccordy was out today asked the question of who do
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: you blame mac or the organization? And I mean really
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Devin kind of lated at the organization's feet.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But it's just it's so hard on all the writers
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: chimed in. Devin speaks the truth. I like, I know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one that thinks that they still give
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: him all the excuses in the world.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: But there it is, you gotta it's just it's I mean,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: it is hard to untangle. But like I just I
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: can't get away from the thought that I had of
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: when you know, I saw Tom kind of throw that
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: out there, and you know, something that we had talked
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: to about too, but just how do you sell that
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: to the team. You know that that's the biggest thing
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: for me, Like I understand it from a first round
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: draft pick perspective, and you know what he's done, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: you know what what you what you're hoping that he
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: was going to grow into and that you still don't
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: want to lose sight of that. But at the same time,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: its just continues to look the same, you know, no
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: matter kind of who was around team.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But in the fan base, right that's tough right now
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: because people people are cranky. People are cranky.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Really, I hadn't notice.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I mean the guys weren't there. But in Germany, the
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Zappi chance in that stadium, I was like, this is
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: this is tough. Really, I just don't get.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: How you bounce me.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: We had some Zappi chance here, like they were like encouraging.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, like European soccer fan stadium.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: Like.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: The game.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And then Sunday like even when they're getting shut out
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: for three and a half orders, I think there was
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a belief that he's gonna do it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the part that noise is you got zap zap,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: And I'm like he did an end around a Taekwon Thornton.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: He didn't do anything.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Why are we chanty?
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: They're just trying at least it wasn't. I thought we
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: were gonna have to bring back Mac chance to bring
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: back Man.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think.
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you're ever going to get that
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: people have taped over their back Jones jerseys.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: That's just the most depressing thing for football franchise when
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: you it gets to that, Like every franchise kind of
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: goes through that, when you figure out like a certain
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: segment of the fan base QUARTERBA brown quarterback with the
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: brown paper bags, just setting it on fire.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: But that was everything. When I saw the photo, I can't.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Well, it's a plenty of emails here coming in and
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: uh are we okay to go to the phone yet, Paul,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: I'm feeling that this is a little thrown off.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It's usually.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Usually when my host it's a it's a mindset and
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: you start off and you get into it and you
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: know Fred was here, and now it's like, all.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more than enough time to clear your throat.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: All right, Josh, all right, let me clear my throat. Speed?
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: What's going on?
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Speed?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: How are you hey, I'm all right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: How you guys doing all right?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yesterday?
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: That really resonated for me, at least he said it
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: was something like, they don't suck because they turned the
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: ball over. They turned the ball over because they sucked, And.
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: I thought that was good.
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: Like Bill's always harped on not turning the ball over.
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: You know, he's had like a hair trigger benching your players,
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: like Stevenson, but like but these days, when Bill invokes
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: the turnovers are our main problem with offense, it rings
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: a little hollow. It's like he's I wonder if he's
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: like deflecting you can discuss, like to talk about what's
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: really going wrong and leading to the turnovers, like he's
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: treating a symptom like it's a disease. Yeah, And I
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: wanted to know, your guys thought, does he is that
• 33:57
  Speaker 11: what he's doing is.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So I strongly believe that speed I do, And I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: think that that's also part of the reason why he's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: been so evasive when asked about the quarterback, Because if
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they get if I continue to say, you know, I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: told everybody to be ready, I expect I expect you
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: know what they're all they both deserve. If I keep,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, sort of you know, be laboring this point.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Instead of just naming a starter. You name a starter
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and the questions end, right, So these are what the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: questions are going to be. And then maybe they're not
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: going to talk about, well, it doesn't really matter who
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the quarterback is because we're not moving the ball and
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: scoring points. I keep talking about turnovers, and people are
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: going to keep saying and some in the media have
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: glombed onto that. You know, they put the turnover ratio
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: up every week, and you look and there's like Kansas
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: City's down there and Cleveland's down there are teams that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: have winning records that are down around where the Patriots
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: are in the turnover margin, that are eight nine games
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: ahead of them in the standings. It's not just about turnover. Now, obviously,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: you throw as many interceptions as Mac was throwing, that's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: gonna hurt you. But I again, I just don't think
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that they're two and ten because of turnovers. I think
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: there's a lot other factors that are involved.
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: I agree with pet and the turnovers become relevant to
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: the quarterback discussion a little bit because, like Matisa is
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: just saying, you know, Zappy, you grab him by the ankle,
• 35:22
  Speaker 11: maybe he goes down, whereas maybe Max tries to do
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: some circus mistake and turn the ball over.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Mac is just making too many mistakes
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: that you would see from a rookie now. And it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: like you're about to be coming up on your you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: contract extension year. You're still doing the same things that
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: a rooie would be.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: And I think that the difference is he's been playing
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: every game and they're not scoring any points and he
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: has that press to I have to make a play here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's just they have.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: To make a play because we're not scoring and we're
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: punting and we're punting. We're punting and we're not scoring
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and we're not scoring. Where Zapie went in for one
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: game and they have to endure not scoring.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's just like though those plays where
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: he's been wrapped up and he just throws the ball
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: all out like.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Like that just it can't happen in the NFL, right,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: the difference between losing and not turning the ball over
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: and losing and turned the ball.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And I also say, like, you know, the goal for
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the quarterback isn't to just not make mistakes. It's to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: make plays. And you know that's why I didn't really
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: think there was a whole lot of difference between the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: two performances Mac and against the Giants and Zappi against
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. To me, was very much the same, only
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you didn't turn the ball over.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: And I think the panic, like the footwork and the
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: panic that Mac has like Zappi doesn't do that like
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: when pass when Khalilza has been better.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's better in the pocket.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: Keeps his eyes down feel a little bit.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he did a good job of moving
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: around the pocket early in the game, especially, but you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: know at the end of the game he got sacked
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: five times. Anything else speaking, that is going.
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: To get himself in trouble with one of those side
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: arms throws, I predicted the next game.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to do it tomorrow, like the one
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: he threw against the Giants late in the game that
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the linebacker dropped, like you just kind of like get
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: rid of it and went right to the guy and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the guy dropped lot this summer at all, Right, he's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a gunslinger.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Thanks to b appreciate it. Yeah, I it's.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Not ideal to like go into these games, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: like Tamara said, like six nothing, like you know, well,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: who's gonna get the six? You know, I don't know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: but it just would be nice to go into one
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of these games thinking they could win another way. Yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you had said, like you thought that maybe Mac comes
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: out of the bye week, and like I've had that thought,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: not just with Mac, but the team in general, like
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: three or four times this year, Like you know what,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: They're gonna go out and they're gonna score in their
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: first drive, then they're gonna cause a turnover in the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: second drive and go up ten nothing or fourteen nothing,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be one of those games they're gonna
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: unload the season season's worth of frustration on some team.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: It just never shows, and it just never happens.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, probably not totally the same, but maybe a
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: little bit in O nine with that Tennessee game where
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: they were kind of struggling and then all of a sudden,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: the snow here it was just like boom, fifty points.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: It was like two thousand and seven, all of a sudden. Again.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I've I've been waiting for those things
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: to happen, but it just it just how and then
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, and another big thing I think we got
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: to talk about too is just Remondre, Like, I mean,
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: a it sounds like high ankle sprain, which was what
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: it looked like, gonna be out for a little bit.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: He's been their best player on offense, right, I mean,
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: and now what do you do? Do you do you
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: give Kevin Harris a shot to try Jamichael Hasty doesn't
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: matter or it doesn't matter, or do you I mean,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: I think Zeke seemed kind of intrigued by getting like
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: carrying the load and really getting a chance to to
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: to do it. So I don't know why not. I mean,
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: I'd like to see a look at Kevin Harris, but
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: he seems like an afterthought at this point.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they must just not like him very much.
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm interested to see, like kind of to your point,
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: to see what you have, Like see Kevin Harris, I mean,
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: would have loved to see Kashawan bootymore, but obviously Injuris.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: And things getting away.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: But I'm like, see all the guys that you haven't
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: really had a chance to see before the end of
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: the year, to see, like, Okay, what do we have?
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: What do we want to get rid of what do
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: we want to fix? Like, I feel like it's hard
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: when you can't really see these guys.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: That's why I want to go to the league, because
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I just want, Like, what do you have to lose?
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I just want I just want the manitation football, honestly,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Like I just want to see some passes, any.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Well, passes. I don't know about mylik with the passes.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: That's fine. You know, he can juke somebody out of
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: his shoes. I don't care it is.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the key there, I think is
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that they need to find a way to stay on
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the field the offense, Like you need to get you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: some first downs and then maybe if you get something going,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you can throw them a leak coming here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: I think that's what it is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Like four to three and outs in the first half.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Say that, and then I looked up at the scoreboard
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and the time possession was pretty equal, which makes no
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: sense to me.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Well, the Chargers didn't move the ball lead, that's true.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I mean they both had two hundred and fifty yards of.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: Offense, fifteen punts total.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of punting going on that one.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting for a score of Gami honestly, that's all
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: we need.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Like, what are the score of Gami's below ten points?
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Well, we googled yesterday. We thought we're gonna get a
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: zero zero score of Goami, but that happened nine eight
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: nineteen forty eight.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Could nine eight be a score of Gomi?
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: I probably it's the four safeties. Maybe because I'm five
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: two as well, it's putting up a baseball score.
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: If the score is I can't I can't even I
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: can't even say it out of my mouth.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: The score is five to you? Oh my god.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: L from Wisconsin chimed in on on email said, you
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: know what, would y'all know what would be hilarious if
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: the defense shuts out the Steelers but the offense throws
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: a pick six and that would be a new low.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: And that's why I just would like to see the
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: defense score. I don't really like, you know, I think
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: we're all like win. I don't know, I don't really
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: want to win all that much, But I just think
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: it would be really fun to watch the defense celebrate
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: and score maybe a big man touchdown.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Oh you know Trubisky. You know he could give you,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: He could give you some opportunities, you.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: See the whole Nase and Trubisky stuff that was hilarious.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: He was like a reporter asked Na. He was like, so,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: what do you think of Trubisky's leadership? And You're like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: it's okay, I guess he is. He like vocal, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I was like, not me not. She's like, I guess
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: it was a really bad day. They got some stuff going.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So what I would say with that is that's pretty
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: ironic that a player is asked about someone else's leadership
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and he pooh poos it like that's terrible leadership by
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Naji Harris. I don't care if. I don't care if
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: it's true or not.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: I can't take Najie Harris seriously anymore because I saw
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: a tweet that says he looks like he's running in jeans.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into a man I'm gonna
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: play them now. I want to see it, which I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: think is bad for the Patriots that if he warrens better,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: well not only Warren's better, but if Najie Harris plays
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and they have Harris and Warren, I know what they'll do.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: They'll go into the game and say, we're gonna run
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the ball twenty five times tonight, and we're going to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: establish the run and we're gonna do it. You know.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I think Harris is more of that physical back Warren smaller, shiftier,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: which has always been better against the Patriots. Now maybe
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: they'll look at it and say, we can't just we
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: can't ask Jalen Warren to carry the ball thirty times
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like we would with both of them together. Maybe they'll
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: throw it, because if you want to try to run
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots, you're gonna lose. Yeah, I mean like offensively.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna lose the game, because we
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: all saw last week they still won the game.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: But then Deontay Johnson's kind of tuned out. Apparently he
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: stuff with him.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: So this is going to be part of my rant
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: when I go on my shows later, like this big
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: thing that Felger has and tomorrow will like this because
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it's really complimentary a guy who would you rather have
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: been over the last fifty years? The Patriots are the Steelers,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and my answer is the Patriots totally respecting everything Pittsburgh's done,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: great program programs. I like to say thank you, but
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not enamored with being in my bad years quote
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: unquote going nine to eight and not being a threat.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't really have much use for that. In twenty
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: one when the Patriots were ten and seven, it made
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they didn't really threaten anybody. And then
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: last year they went eight and nine. Like, I don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: give Pittsburgh points for avoiding this year. Like I don't
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: really think there's a whole lot of difference between where
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the two teams are right now.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: You could say that screwed him over in the long
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: run too, because you know, you just take that big
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Ben year where his arm is cooked, you finished, like
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: gos you might have a new guy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And I get I give now listen, I give Tomlin
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: not sucking up to you to Marr, but I give
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Tomlin credit for keeping it together, finding ways to win
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: these games when they're outplayed in a lot of these games,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: they find a way at the end because they're tough, Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and they play hard for him and all that stuff.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away from Pittsburgh. They have a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: great like I said, they have a great program. The
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: guys are, but I don't think they're really all that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: much closer to contention than the Patriots are. Even though
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: there's seven and five.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: And that's what like you discovered. I think, you know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: right going almost into the twenty twenty season was just
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: like the fear of the middle, Like you know, it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: like either be a contender or suck like just but
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: just don't be in the middle. That's the worst place
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: to be because you're never going to get out of
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: the cycle. And by that token, do you hope that
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: that this I mean, I have no idea what we're
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: in for next offseason, but is this a one you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: is this your chance right here to like you know,
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: you're not you don't want to be back at the draft.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: You want to get this top pick and you know
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: where you're gonna be in the second round, et cetera,
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  Speaker 6: all the way down, and you don't have to be
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: back here. You get the pieces in now you know
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: we can get back to content. I don't know, it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: it's a huge lift. We'll see how how it unfolds
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: with it with everything now that we're we're getting ready
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: to face here in the offseason.
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: What I think is super interesting is that Ju's first
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: time playing the Steelers since he left.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: He said that in the locker.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Room yesterday, Big game from Juju.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: One catch seven yards.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm looking Buck fifty from Juju.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Cracks me up in regards that we I don't think
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: we said once that Ja C. Jackson was playing the
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: Chargers and like made any comment last week about jac
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Jackson playing against the team that you know.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Just I guess that he played as well as people
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: sort of like he settled in now and had a great,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: good game. Like I didn't see that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I saw him chasing a lot, yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: In that game. Jonathan Jones, I thought was really good
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: in that game. I thought Bryant was competitive in that game.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, especially though I thought he was really good.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Mills made a couple of plays in the Chargers game
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that I haven't really seen all year.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that really from Jackson. I thought he
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: had one play that he had pretty good coverage on.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I let everybody, let everybody know after the
• 45:01
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  Speaker 8: Bailey Zappy had his press conference with the media yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: Let's listen to what he had to say.
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: What are your thoughts about the game in Pittsburgh.
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: I'm excited. You know, it's a good opportunity for us
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: to go out there and you know, play as a team,
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: play calmentary football, and you know, start playing well as
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: an offense. So I'm excited.
• 46:16
  Speaker 15: What did you learn from Sunday and what can you
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: take it to Thursday now with that next next start.
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there was some you know, some mysteries by me,
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: some misthrows by me. There are some things that you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: I can you know, better ball placement, things like that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: So just been working on that stuff as much as
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: possible today and tomorrow before we head off and try
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: to get ready for Thursday in such a short leak.
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: I mean, I guess so because you don't get as
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: much physical reps as more mental. But we try as
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: much as possible, like before or after walk throughs or
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: whatever we do, to try to just go out there
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: and throw as much as possible, whether it's just walking through,
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: just standing there, just you know, just try to throw
• 46:54
  Speaker 10: the ball around.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Horse, Are you sick at all?
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: No, I got a horse. After the game, I'll screaming
• 47:01
  Speaker 10: and everything, trying to make sure everybody can hear me
• 47:04
  Speaker 10: out there.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: When you look back, Toto, you something you felt like
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you gelt better upon the adventure. Things absolutely as you
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: should expect someone.
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: I would say like the operation as a whole was
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: pretty well. By the offense, you know, we never really had,
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: you know, any questions about the plays or anything like that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: We got in the houddle, we broke the houttle, we
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: got to line, and you know, we were rolling. So
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: I think the whole operation, of course, you know, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: think there was two or three instances where you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: we can fix and move it on to the next game.
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: But other than that, I think it was pretty solid.
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: You the pre staff operation, really, how much more comfortable
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: are you confident?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Are you with alerts, making the pre snap reads and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: adjustments that you need to do.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of the player, the quarterback in the offense.
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like I get more and more comfortable
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: every week the more I watch film of the opponent.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: That also helps, you know, just the preparation throughout the
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: week and understanding you know, why we're alerting, why we're
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: killing took plays like that. That always helps, so you
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: know this short week, you know, that's the only thing
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: we have to do now is just mental reps. So
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: that's what I'm really diving into right now.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Bigally, just in the second half of the game, you
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: took a lot of shots, specifically to Devonte Parker. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: was one of your terms of that connection. Is that
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the kind of thing where if you see them one
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: on one, you have the freedom to take those opportunities
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Or were there some times where you felt maybe you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: locked in on them when there were other opportunities on
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: other parts of the field.
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was something that going into halftime that we
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: talked about that the second half we wanted to push
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: the ball down field a little bit, and you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: we have some guys that can you know, get those
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: fifty to fifty balls, and you know, DP is one
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: of those guys where you know, you kind of put
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: it up anywhere and he has opportunity to go up
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: and get it. So does Taekwon, and so does really
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: everybody else. So I think that was kind of our mindset.
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: We just wanted to, you know, attack down the field
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: going into the second half, and you know, kind of
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: like you said, if it's one on one, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: I kind of like my guy better than their guy.
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: So I'm just let them go get it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: You actually.
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: Coaches, you know, made it pretty clear. But I'll let him,
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: you know, announce it to everybody that's you know, private
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: right now, and whenever he announces it, that's that's with him.
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: What you say you've learned about yourself this well, you
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: know a lot. I guess a lot of things that
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: I can grow on, a lot of things that you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: I can improve on. But you know, I I would
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: like to say around here is taking a day by
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: day and that's just you know, it's very cliche to
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: say that, but you know, it's every day there's something
• 49:27
  Speaker 10: that you can get better at, whether it's you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: mental things or you know, physical things, throwing and stuff
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: like that, and there's always ways to get better. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: that's kind of how I do it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Sunday, it was your first start of the season. How
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: much did the opportunity mean to you, especially given.
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: You know, with him not being here on cut.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Day cut down day.
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was you know, it's been a
• 49:47
  Speaker 10: long ride, of course, so to be out there was
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: an amazing opportunity. You know, we didn't get the you know,
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: the result that we wanted, so hopefully we can you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: learn from it, grow from it and going into Thursday
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: and do everything we can, uh, you know, do everything
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: I can to put the team in the best possible situation,
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: you know, to win the game.
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: I actually you confirms of the multiple offers getting this
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: opportunity to start interesting those feelings, and you kind of made.
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: That right to me to stick around. Yeah, you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: this is the place I wanted to be. I wanted
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: to play for ob I wanted to play for Coach Belichick,
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: and I wanted to play with the you know, the
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: guys that I've built a relationship with over the last
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: you know, a year and a half two years. So
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: this is where I wanted to be.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It was probably frustration might not be the right word,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: but where are you at with you guys?
• 50:32
  Speaker 15: Feel like you do a lot of good things with
• 50:34
  Speaker 15: the games to color did and that just breaking that
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: barrier is starting to knock on put the folly into
• 50:39
  Speaker 15: get points. How close do you feel that the guys
• 50:41
  Speaker 15: are as unity too?
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we're close. We talk about that a lot. You know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: it's just one or two things you know that you
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: know that happened that you know, kind of haltered from
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: you from scoring and we just got to fix those
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: one or two things. And once we do that, I
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: feel like we'll be able to start putting points on
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: the board.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Obviously and do what's best for the team. But how
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: do you look in these next few weeks just for you,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you guys are the future or in the l What
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: do you do for that?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: I mean nobody really, you know, ask any questions when
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: you start winning. So as long as we just go
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: out there and you know, do the best we can
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: and put points on the board as far as an
• 51:19
  Speaker 10: offense and start winning as a team, I think you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: that'll all kind of handle itself.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 51:24
  Speaker 11: The fact that you're up at the podium today and
• 51:26
  Speaker 11: there's not as much uncertainty from a public perspective there
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: who's the guy right now?
• 51:31
  Speaker 16: How much does that kind of help you just embrace
• 51:33
  Speaker 16: that role?
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah? I mean that helps you know, Like I said,
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: I'll wait for the official announcement from coach, but you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: I try to prepare every week, you know, like I'm
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: the guy, so nothing different from me.
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: How much does it help you improve that from start
• 51:49
  Speaker 14: to finish. In the last game, you were under center
• 51:51
  Speaker 14: the whole time, and I'm going into this week of
• 51:53
  Speaker 14: preparation and meetings, film practice, with time you guys have
• 51:56
  Speaker 14: for the for Pittsburgh that you're the guy that's leading
• 51:59
  Speaker 14: the offense quarterback.
• 52:00
  Speaker 10: Now, yeah, I mean, of course it's different, but you know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 10: you gotta you gotta approach every week. You know that
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: coach always says everybody has to be ready to play.
• 52:09
  Speaker 10: So you have to be ready no matter what. You
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: gotta prepare like you're gonna be thrown in there, whether
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: it's the second player, whether it's the last play. So
• 52:17
  Speaker 10: you know, that's kind of the mentality that we have here,
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: and you know, just no matter what's going on, you
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: just prepare to play.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Like what time was it when you first started looking
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: at the Steelers?
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: Probably Sunday night is when I kind of look back
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: at their Cardinals game eleven, I mean love thirty, Probably
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: like four thirty in the morning, I don't know, sometime
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: after our game.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: I'm playing there in that atmosphere.
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: David was talking about it through a game in Pittsburgh
• 52:47
  Speaker 15: Thursday until before the amosphere.
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's you know, I was able to
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: be there last year. Of course I was an active
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: last year, so I got to you know, kind of
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: see it from outside of view, I kind of like
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: a fan view, and it was pretty awesome. You know,
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: that field, I don't know what was that a actressure? Hinfield?
• 53:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's pretty legendary. So the Steelers organization is
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: an awesome organization. They've been good for a long time.
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: So to be able to play them at their places,
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: you know, it's pretty unreal.
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: Are those conversations Like with Bill O'Brien on the sideline
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: during the game.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I know you said yesterday on the radio that your
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: relationship with him has grown a lot over these last
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: couple of months.
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's kind of back
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: and forth or whatever he sees, he lets me know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: And then you know, if I'm seeing something on the
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: field that you know, if they've showed it on film
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: or I avage shown it on film, I'm kind of
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: giving him that, you know, just throwing each other off,
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: you know, throwing stuff off each other's brains and just
• 53:40
  Speaker 10: you know, most majority of the time, it's you know,
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: after the series, we're looking at the iPads. You know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: if I miss a read or miss up, you know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: miss a coverage, you know, he shows me, like what
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: I can look at better or what I can you know,
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: what tendencies that they're showing that can kind of help
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: me pre snap. So it's just kind of dissecting the
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: previous drive and then kind of moving on and what
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: we're gonna do the next drive And what.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: Do you feel like your your comfort level is throwing
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: into juju Parker. You know some of those guys that
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: maybe didn't have as many reps in the summer.
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: At times, I'm comfortable with those guys one hundred percent.
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: You know, they're great players, and you know it makes
• 54:14
  Speaker 10: it easy for a guy, you know, for a quarterback.
• 54:16
  Speaker 10: You just put it really anywhere and those guys are gonna,
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: you know, make a play on it. So you know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 10: those guys are good receivers. And I'm excited to be,
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: you know, be thrown to those guys.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I do you go put a handle any pressure and
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: not making something too big where that you know it
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: becomes a hindrance.
• 54:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, control what you can control. So it's
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: you know, that's what we say around here. I guess,
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: you know, I don't I'm not really big into those things,
• 54:44
  Speaker 10: Like I'm really cool, calm and collected. That's kind of
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: how you know, my dad, you know, brought me up.
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: My mom brought me up. So I don't really try
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: to dive into you know, trying to overwhelm myself or
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: anything like that. I try to control what I can control,
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: and whatever my read is, I try to do my read.
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: And if something happens, I, you know, make a mistake,
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: I try to go back and learn from it. You know.
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: I try to really not dive into it and ride
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: the roller coaster. I just try to stay, you know,
• 55:08
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• 55:10
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  Speaker 6: by me on that read. I think, no, not great.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: A couple of bubbles in the middle, pitchy dog. I'm
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: I'm still trying to. I know they probably did.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: You hear the way Eric talked to me, And you
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: wonder why he has not reached out and talked to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: me since he left.
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know where you're from, Paul, but those are
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: fighting words out in Holliston, the sticks of Holliston out there.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Tough guy. He used to get so mad when when
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Fred started picking on him, and if I jumped in,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: it was way worse. It's way worse coming from you.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't it be kind of fun to bring Eric back,
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: just like for right now and like a random show,
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: just like so what do you even? What do you
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: think of the pictures?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: But I think it would be great to find out
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: if he knows what their record is.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: He probably has no idea you have any He completely
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: tuned out, completely tuned out. Yeah, probably. Uh, we got
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: a question here, No, I won't. We'll get back to him.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: I think Eldred heard us say his name earlier. He's
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: he's on the phone now, Hey Aldred, what's going on?
• 57:50
  Speaker 19: Hey? Hi, Okay, I got two questions. Okay, did y'all
• 57:57
  Speaker 19: believe anything? You just said that about a couple about
• 58:03
  Speaker 19: a couple of things, get right, that we could score,
• 58:05
  Speaker 19: we can win.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: No, oh you're talking about Prescott. Yah. Yeah they were.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: They were probably close a couple of times to being
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: able to get in position to score some points. Were
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: they close to scoring thirty? You know? And being a
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: representable offense? No representative, I don't think so. I don't
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: believe that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 19: And and and Paul, I'm gonna say you on Michael Pennick, Okay,
• 58:32
  Speaker 19: strong arm throws, agree and win in Washington.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Agreed to New England. Absolutely agree, grandpoint accuracy, short, long.
• 58:41
  Speaker 19: And deep and move.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Agree agree for the most part, I like Pani agree.
• 58:49
  Speaker 19: Yeah. But see, like I said, everybody want CAF, we
• 58:51
  Speaker 19: get Caleb. Fine, but if we win and we lose
• 58:55
  Speaker 19: those three quarterbacks, those three right there, you know that's gonna.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Be the mill.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: And also think it's in No, I thought you were done.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I apologize, I had finished.
• 59:07
  Speaker 19: I'm done.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I also think it was interesting that a lot of
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: people were talking about Shador Sanders and that he says
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: he says, he says he's staying, but a lot of
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the I don't know if they're current GMS personnel guys,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: but the word is that if he did come out,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: he would unequivocally be the third quarterback behind Williams and May.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: A lot of people decommitting from Colorado.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Too, So yeah, but I mean the word. The word
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: is he's absolutely staying for another year at Colorado. But
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that people I don't
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: look at him that way. I think he's I think
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he's an intriguing prospect, but I'm not sure I would
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: put him in with with Williams and May as you
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: know the slot him in. I mean, I like Daniels
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: a lot better than than Sanders.
• 59:53
  Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, another question. Sure, I'll intriguing about May because
• 59:57
  Speaker 19: I he May. I'm down here, I'll see the acc
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 19: and he's not to mean he's not dead impressive, he's not,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 19: especially if flu Staate got hold of it. But you know,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 19: he's just not. But I can't see the injury.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is a good combination of h
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: thanks you know, mobility, Uh, not that he is like
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Michael Vick, but you know, good combination of mobility, size, uh,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you know, pocket presence, arm strength. I think he has.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, to me, there's no comparison between him and Williams.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: But I can understand why people really like Drake May.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I can see there's a lot there to like Dan.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I agree with Paul. I think he's intriguing.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: I think he has like a bunch of different tools
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: in his tool belt that I think, you know, with time,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: in the right coaching, they could make him great.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: But it's just tough right now.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I think I'll be real, mister Whiskey ruined all quarterbacks
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: That's that's that's a fair statement.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you think. C J.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Shroud, he's a baller.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys preceded him at Ohio State didn't ruin
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: all Ohio State quarterbacks, justin fields. I just want to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: make sure you were consistent. So, I mean you don't like.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Sam how either.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: He's okay, I mean he carved us up. But yeah,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I I he went in the fourth round.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah he went late.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he's but he's a lot smaller than yep,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Drake May.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: I remember spending like all the twenty twenty one spring,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: like he said, on those quarterbacks. So I feel like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: I didn't expect to be back here this soon. But
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like twenty twenty one was kind of like
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a prep for like quarterback research,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: figuring out what you like. And I mean I just
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: when you're in the middle of the draft though, you're
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: kind of stuck in the middle of the first round,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: You're stuck with kind of what falls to you. But
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: now it's like, if you're not aggressive, they've got a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: real choice, right well, you know, of course, but you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: know now they've got a real choice here, especially if
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: it's at second overall, and you know there's there's just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: a lot to consider.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I'll put I'd rather whiff on Williams and whiff on Bay.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: I mean it's like it's you got a whiff on one.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Of those guys, right yeah, I mean, whoever takes can't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: whiff on somebody who're like what that guy like? If
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: you take Cal Williams and the stinks, I'd rather have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: that happen than take Drake Manny's next Bremingham State.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Who is this guy drafting?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: I think you have to be aggressive and go up
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: and get your guy if you feel like that he
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: is the one. And I think in this situation like,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: it's great to have both of those quarterbacks who have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 9: multiple tools in their tool bell.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: And they're not just one dimensional.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: May is much bigger than six four six one.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: Go back to the phones. We got Manny down in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: New Bedford him many.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 20: Can you hear me?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, Yo, what's your take? Guy?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 12: I know we talked about go check guys the chance
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 12: he's not gonna be there next year. But how we
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 12: feel about Troy Brown, I'm not really too solebo on him.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 12: I think there's a lot of hiccups in that wide
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 12: receiver corps. I feel like these receivers are getting no separation.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 12: I get it, and not like the best talent, but
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 12: there's a lot of hiccups in that core there. What
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 12: do we what do we feel about that?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, Fred's brought it up a lot, you know.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: I mean it's it's how can you feel good about
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: any of the offensive coaches right now? I mean, nobody's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: really excelled. And I mean you Troy's been here for
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: a few years and you just you haven't really been
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: able to develop a wide receiver. I mean, I although
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: I will say, I mean, you know, Jacoby Myers was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: pretty good, and he's been pretty good and tomorrow Douglas
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: has been okay. I mean, I think if everyone was here,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: he would he would, you know, push back a little
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: bit on just some of the miss you know, miscues
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: that that Douglas has had as a rookie. But I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: think we're all sick of like not accepting those, like
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: you know, you just like, look, he's gonna make some mistakes.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: He's a rookie. I'd much rather see him play and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: make mistakes than not play and make no mistakes.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: You know, I can't tell whether it's bad coaching or
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: bad scouting, like we're Nikhil Harry and Taekwon Thornton just
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: bad picks or and they uncoachable or can they be coached?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: But Tory Bown's not able to give him what data and.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: One thing like even like Nelson aguilor like I've watched
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: him with the Ravens a little bit this year, looks
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: like it's like a.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 21: Different guy like he did. I'm not to say that
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 21: he's good, but it gets part of it. I think
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 21: the development part is an element. Now they probably missed
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 21: on both of those guys that you mentioned with Harry
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 21: and and Thornton. But if they went somewhere else, might
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 21: they be more of goes both ways.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but I just like I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: would love to see Taekwon Thornton just do something like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know, he just seemed like he was finally
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: on the verge last week, and like I kind of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: a given up hope on him, you know, but as
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: I said on the show yesterday, like it just I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: think they could use him better. Like I just I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: think he has something. And that's like I almost wonder
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: with like a Nelson Agilore, like if you had him
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: in the right system and he looked and he was
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: in the right spots, like could he contribute? Like he's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: the only one right now with with Douglass out that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: looks like he moves like an NFL receiver. Everybody else
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: is kind of plotting.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: And but do you think that there will be any
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: chance of him being like a real threat consistently, you know,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: six seven eight catches a game.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: No, I think he's probably a feeling of like a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: like a like last Johnson, like last week he catches
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: that ball, Yeah to me, that's his sealing. Yeah, yeah, No,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: And I just like to see that. I guess this is.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I would.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: I would, But again to your point, I think third
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: or fourth receiver, like a guy with some speed and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: some length, but you know somebody that it feels like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: you definitely have to avoid putting him in you know,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: double moves and you know things where he has to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: run nuanced routes like he just doesn't.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Phil Perry talking about that yesterday and about how you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: he talked to numerous personnel guys after that draft all
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: told him that he was a fifth round pick at
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: best what we said, and you know, it just.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: Wasn't their guy, Like, it's not their kind of guy. Like,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: and I mean this is that whole draft was that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: was a head scratcher now in retrospective, but I don't know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: you always like they take those guys and you're like,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: all right, I don't see it, but I'll let them
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: gut him out on the field and see it. And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: I mean kind of the same with Strange. But then
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: then it gets confirmed.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: That that nicey pickens tomorrow. So yeah, he was an option.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: So even even Pierce has you know, made made more
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: plays to the players, you know, and and sky Moore
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: is is a totally different kind of player. He's more
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of a like a versatile Mikole Hardman kind of guy.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: But they find ways to run some some run the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: ball with him a little bit like they did with
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Taekwon last week. He's not going to be a huge
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: volume guy for the Chiefs, but he's you know, he's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he's been active for them, but it's like and he's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: been a little disappointing for.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's been a few guys like that. And
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: I mean last year they won the super Bowl kind
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: of with that same kind of like you have the
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: core of Kelsey and Mahomes and you know when they
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: got to have it moments, nine times out of ten
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: they're going to have.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: A touchdown in the super Bowl.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: But you know, but then you have the complimentary pieces
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: that you never quite know who's gonna do what. And
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: you know, I think in that kind of thing, when
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: you have you know, maybe to the Patriots point, my
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: guys get pretty.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Good for them that you you and Evan yelled at
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: me and stay over in the corner that she rice,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, I didn't see it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: I didn't see it.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: They went over there. You know, you don't grind. You
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: don't grind tape like me. Cody two.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: I didn't grind it. But uh now you know we're
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: getting ready to get into all this again. I just
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: I can't not. I can't wait.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: No, that's what that's the best part about picking in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the top five, the top three hopefully, is you don't
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: have to do that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: No guy, this guy, Like that's why I like, I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: don't want to like commit to a guy right now,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: Like I feel like, you know, Eldred's like he's on
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: all right, you're a Penis guy from now from here too. Four.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how why he thought that. I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: was like anti I'm not picking panics at two.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: I'm anti panics.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: But I think he's fine. I just don't look at
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: him like Caleb Williams. I don't really think that's a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: shot at Michael Pennix to think he has that kind.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Of I don't. That's what scares me.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: Injuries, Yeah, well.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: You guys know a lot about injuries like the two
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: A CL part of it. Does that make him more
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: susceptible to tearing an A C L. I don't, I don't,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I don't. I asked that without I don't know.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I look and I don't know the answer
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: on that either, I would I mean, my question would be,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: does he take unnecessary hits? Is he you know, is
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: he down? Does he not protect himself?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: Like that that would be more the question. I don't
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: think just in end of having an injury necessarily makes
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: it that he's going to get it again. But does
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: it signal some kind of you know, I don't I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: don't even know what what what kind of pace they
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: were happened on, you know, I feel like.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: You would have to get him in an offense that
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: one has a good offensive line, so he didn't feel
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: like he has to run for his life every single time.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: But then two, I feel like he could. He couldn't
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: be in a system where like he was designed to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: run a bunch like Justin Fields. I feel like you
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: would probably have to protect him a little bit more
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: kind of like what the Bills are trying to do
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: with Josh Allen, where they're like, I don't want you
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: running for your life every single play.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McCarthy, how they have an an emergency appened
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: dect to me today?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Oh showing up Sunday though, Yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: He plans on coaching Sunday.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: I wonder if his doctors would agree with that.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: That's some prayers. Let's go down to Australia. Nick, what's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: going on?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Nick?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Hi?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: Good?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 16: I just got a question for Paul and bought all right, Parpacetically,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 16: if they draft say Williams or May and then get
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 16: a receiver, is it gonna look any different with Billy
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 16: O'Brien running the offense? Or do you guys think they
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 16: need to get someone else even with a new scheme
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 16: like Ben Johnson or someone else's seems like, uh, Billo
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 16: o'bron's things may be passed and the only player that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 16: could run it with Tom Brady.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a good question.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Would like to see the scheme change. I don't mind
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: if Bill O'Brien changes scheme and he stays, but I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to run the Ronnie a Hard offense anymore.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of done with that. I've been running for
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: twenty plus years now. They won six Super Bowls with
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: that offense, not diminishing it. I just think that it's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: kind of past its expoll.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: It's just like, what about the offenses doesn't work?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: That's I guess what.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I think, relying on the pinpoint decision making of the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: quarterback and receiver on every play is too much. Something
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: that is kind of proven to be unique to Tom Brady. Yeah,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: like you can have a lot of success when the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: guy is flawless running the operation, and when he.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: Is, you tend to put it more on the receivers
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: that the receivers can't pick the offense up.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: So and then I looked at it this way. I'm
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: starting to think about this a little bit. You remember
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: how we used to have fun, you know, tis you
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: you were probably a little young, you know when some
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: of these guys. But when it was like Donald Hayes
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: coming in and uh, you know, Joey Galloway and Tory
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Holt and Reggie Wayne, and it was like Chad Ocho Cinco,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: he's dummies. They can't get now. No one can get
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: it now.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: No one got in the quarterbacks.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about the receivers, like no one really
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: is making the right show with you know, Evan is
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: coming in every Tuesday and we're talking about to Mario
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Douglas looked like he kind of was in the wrong
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: spot or Taekwon Thornton is stumbling coming out of his
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: route because he looks a little unsure of himself or
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it's because these guys aren't any
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: good and those guys were of I mean, when we're
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: talking about Joey Galloway and Tory Holt and Reggie Wayne,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: there's three guys with Hall of Fame talent. Now they're
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: not all in the Hall of Fame, but the Hall
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: of Fame talents. They knew how to play. Ocho Cinko
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: knew how to play. Maybe this is just a little
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: too hard on everybody, you know, And it wasn't for everybody.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: It was more for a unique skill set of guys,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you know. And I just that, like when you asked me,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: what about the offense, do you not want to I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to rely on you know, everybody being on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the same page pre and post snap.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean I think we talked about this a
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: little bit a couple of weeks ago, but I mean
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: I tie it again to like last year, and like
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: the notion of we're going to simplify the offense now,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: I think that got lost in the fact that it
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: was Matt Patricia and Joe Judge doing the job of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: simplifying the offense, but I think all of us were
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: That's one.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Thing I did. It's one thing I won't criticize Belichick for.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: I think he recognized the fact that he needed to
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: change the offense a little bit. I only criticized how
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: we tried to do it.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: And so how did that How did that manifest itself
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: now with Bill O'Brien. Did they just say, well, we're
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: getting complicated again because it's Bill O'Brien and that's just
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: kind of what he does. Or did they say, look,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: you know, it didn't work great last year, but we
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: want to keep it simple.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: It was my contention that they had to change the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: offense when O'Brien, I mean, Judge and Patricia were here
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: because they didn't know the offense right to implement it.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Whereas O'Brien's back, he can do the same offense because
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: he already ran it.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: Which makes me wonder if you know, if Bill was
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: to stick around, and you know, in one of these
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: different universes, like in the multiverse of Patriots twenty twenty
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: four multiverse, you know there is one multiverse where Bill
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: is here for sure, you know, would he try to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: simplify again or you know, also.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Didn't change the offense all that much, by the way,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I mean just according to the offensive.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: Lineman, right like, but I don't know, there's just so
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: much the offenses and I mean we you know, would
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: be great to get an offensive coordinator in here and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: somebody who could actually tell you, like you know, how
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: they were trying to simplify it was it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Just find a new system and have someone come in
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that knows the system, and then everybody's on the same level.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: You implement it from the ground floor.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: Well, it always sounds great when you have like the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: air Coriel offense, I think is one where it's just
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: like it's a six, five, two, so like you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: you just got the first guy runs a six route,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: this guy runs a five, and this guy runs a two.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: You know, like it's just like it makes instant sense
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: to you. And then when you hear some of like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: the Patriots stuff and how fluid it is, and you know,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: if it's this, you got to go there, and if
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: it's that, you gotta go here.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about it. And I know there's
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: an element of option routes to all these systems, you know,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: it's not always automatic, but I do feel like there's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: more on the quarterback, especially, but the quarterback and the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: receiver to make those decisions on the fly. I think
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: that that makes it a little bit more challenging.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 9: I feel like these what they have right now, they're
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 9: not capable of doing those things on the fly, Like
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 9: I feel like just I mean, you saw it in
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 9: ZAPPI too, like where there were so many opportunities where
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: you could have gotten.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: Into a delay of game but just missed it.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like that's why the wide receivers
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 9: have been so confused and in the wrong spot or
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: in the same spot as somebody else.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: It's just it's not dumb it down a little bit.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: How many times do you feel like this offense has
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: just been like snap catch throw completion, like you know
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: what I mean, like just happening that quick like it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: It just feels like those plays are gone and it's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: always like going through a progression and the chaos happening,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: and then the last second they kind of get it off.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Oh boy, drop the screen. Well, we got lots of
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: emails coming in here.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: And slant runoff tackle, lots.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: Lots of emails hitting them in the hands any emails here?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Why don't you read?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 10: Okay?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: I thank you, Paul, I was trying to cue you there.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: Uh Kyle from Pembroke, Good afternoon. I think Benjing Royland
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: would be a mistake. It's obviously struggling and having an
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: experienced kicker on the practice squad to talk to could
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: be valuable. But just like basketball, he needs to see
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: one go in to start building back up his confidence,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: especially as a rookie.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: I like that comparison because I feel like, you know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: a three point shooter, if you're just having like an
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: off couple of games, I feel like it could be
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 9: tough if you get yanked and then you just don't
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 9: see the court again for six games, because I feel
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 9: like you lose your flow, you get cold.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: And once again, what's the worst that happens? If he
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: keeps me it like we're gonna lose. Like it's different
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: if this was happening.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: If they were ten to too, I would totally understand, like,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: this is going to cost us a game here, you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: know we have to We can't. We can't afford it.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: They can't afford to play through a young guy's struggle.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: Just I mean, you spent the pick on him, so
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: let's see what we can do with it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina. I want to write in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: and say that the old dog Belichick needs some new tricks.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: I don't want to see him bringing back Josh. I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: don't want to see him trade out of the top three,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: which is where we will end up this season. I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: don't want to see him bringing back old qbs who
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: he tried to work before. I saw a tweet which
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: I know doesn't mean much that the Athletics says if
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: Belichick is still around, he could end up bringing back
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: Jimmy g Is our quarterback upon being released from the Raiders.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: A lot of what ifs here, but if this happens,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: Bill needs to go immediately.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think there's any chance. I did see
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: that report like last week. I don't think there's any no.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: And that was like a like a throwaway line in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: a Jeff how thing that he was just kind of positing,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: like bait things that could happen.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: Something I'll be intriguing for a VET is maybe kirk
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Off the Achilles. Oh yeah, that's something that like, you know,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: maybe you take Maserati, Marv and then you get the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: old guy Maserati Marv No, I don't know, just Kirk
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: he's I've never been that much of a fan of him,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: but that he might be able.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: To be neither, but he would obviously be the best
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: available of the veterans.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, he's getting a little love here on the email.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: It's just from Christian with the tia N says more
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: matist less pinpull bazaar. Ah, right, thank you Christian.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: You should send Devin a little text on it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: Of course, looking forward it too.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: I will thank you.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: We got a little conspiracy theory here from Moyses.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: Uh. Is there any validity to my theory that Belichick
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: wanted to tank on the twenty twenty season the fan
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: base would have a bad season because the COVID season
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: was weird. The Pats went through free agency in a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: draft without adding talent to an offensive roster that I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: think is worse than the current roster at their best.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: Did they think Jared Stidham could be the starter in
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: the league or did they not? Did they know no
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: one would want to sign Cam Newton? Was Cam signed?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: To make it seem like they were at least trying
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: to win but can't play better with that team than
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: they thought he would. And let's not forget the offense
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: consisted of de mere Bird, Nikhil Harry, thirty four year
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: old Julian Edelman, Devin Asiassi, Dalton Keene and Ryan Freakin.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: Is oh, sorry, Claire, Yeah, they wanted him.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think people wanted them to tank and he wouldn't.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: I think I also say that team win that many
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: games though, Now that's a dog like this team seems
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: like an all star team.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: They were like at least it was like I mean,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: if I say it was miserable last year, but looking back,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: it was kind of fun. But all I say is,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: what was that the Trevor Lawrence here, Mac John, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: if you got the first round pick, gunned your head.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Bill takes Trevor Lawrence, I'm sorry.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: If they got the number one overall, yeah, I don't
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: know he would have taken Oh, I just don't know.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: If it was the number one overall pick, you would
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: have you gotta Yeah. Now, I'm not telling you he
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: would have taken any of the other three, the other
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: four if he was higher than fifteen. I don't know what,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: like when or if he would have taken any of
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: those four. But if you got number one, he would
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: have taken Trevor.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: Lawrence, he would hope. So, Yeah, but would it be
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: the same situation, That's all we're saying.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, back to the phones, Jody down Atlanta, Hey, Jody, Hey,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: what's up guys much?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: How are you not doing good?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 20: I have a little scenario we hadn't talked about very
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 20: much on here, but is there a scenario where I'm
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 20: I'm not saying I want this to happen, but I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 20: could just see it happening. That they make Bill O'Brien
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 20: the head coach because he has familiarity with the system
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 20: that's you know, how the Patriot Way is, and Crafts
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 20: are comfortable with him. Then they promote Drawing Mayo to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 20: decordinator and we kind of see almost like a run
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 20: back with the same staff instead of instead of going
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 20: outside and getting people from outside the organization.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that the possibility for that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: would be the opposite of that Mayo is the head
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: coach and they keep O'Brien as the offensive coordinator. But
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that's going to happen, but I do.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's on the table.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's on the table.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: I just wouldn't want the Patriot Way and the same
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 9: staff to still be here. I think some people need
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: to be switched up, like, for example, Troy Brown.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: I think that changes needed.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know if it's in the scouting department or
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: you know, different positions on staff, but I think that
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: you could end up with the same type of bad roster,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: bad team if you just keep everything the same.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: And a remove Bill.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Thanks Jody, appreciate it's in play, Jody, I mean I do.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that Bill Belichick is among
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the only ones to go. You know, there'll be others
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: to go, but I could see them keeping a structure.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: But I like, I like your thing where you just
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: like have to point out and I'll read an email
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: here in a second. You know, like you're just going
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: to take out the best part, the best part and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: expect it to be different.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Like to me, the best part of everything that they
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: have right now is Belichick's football mind. You know, because
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I believe me, I take as many shots as everybody else.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I don't ever say that Bill doesn't know what he's
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to Xi's nose and football,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I don't. I've never said that and I never will.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: So you're taken that part out of the equation by
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: leaving everybody else here.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not do that.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: Trent from Sylvan Lake feels kind of similar, he says,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: although says the Bill hate is unreal. Why would you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: ever fire a d offensive minded head coach and then
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: replace him with his own DC It makes zero sense.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: Nobody even knows what Mayo does for this team, but
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: don't let that stop all the spoiled fans from wanting him.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: Either keep Bill in the defense that he has built
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: and successfully run, which would be my vote, or do
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: an entire teardown and start from scratch.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: In fairness, I think that's what most people want. It's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the entire teardown from scratch.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: This is to you, Paul, and this is continuing along.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: Paul.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Do you really think with one of these rookie qbs
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: next season this team could go too and ten again?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: Come on, Bud, that's crazy. Bill has never gone to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: and ten before, and with a real QB the team
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: would be a playoff contender this season. So why blame
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: it all on Bill.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: What are we talking about next year's record. I'd never
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: never say anything about next year's record. I don't know
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: he called you, Bud though, No, But I mean, did
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I say that if they take Caleb Williams they're going
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: to go to and ten again next year? I don't know.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: Now do you think if we take.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: Him we'll go to in ten?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Can I see what else do they do? If you
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: put Caleb Williams on this team, this current roster, you
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: have a good chance of going to and ten. I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: agree because I don't think this is all Mac Jones's fault.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I've never said that. Yeah, I think I'm with you.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of Mac Jones, But I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: don't think it's all Mac Jones's fault.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: Back to the phones, Jafar is out in Minnesota, hate you.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 22: Far, Hey, this is the first time calling in. They're
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 22: listening for about seven years, and I heard on the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 22: podcast not that long ago you guys were talking about
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 22: putting everything on Mac Jones, and you know, maybe they're
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 22: doing too much, but I feel that most quarterbacks have
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 22: won in the past who knows ten years, they know
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 22: how to do everything in terms of bringing the defense
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 22: and making the right checks, and I feel like everything
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 22: is on them. But I don't know if Bill Belichick
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 22: has been doing too much too early with these quarterbacks.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 22: I feel that in order for you to win the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 22: Super Bowl, you need to have everything on you. You know,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 22: you need to have multiple plays that you can check
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 22: too correctly. But I just don't know if we do
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 22: that too soon or if there's too much too early.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 22: But I feel like it's a give and take on
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 22: that I could take that like off the air.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, far.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's in play, Mike. What
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, Like I already talked about
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: how I think it's a little complicated the system.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it is. I just I mean I wish
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: I knew more, I think, is what you know. I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: wish I could really pull out the threads and really
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: know how complicated it is. I mean, I you know,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: I hear everything you say, and I mean, I think
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: it was something I always liked about the you know,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: the Patriots offense and you know, in theory, was like,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: I think it's ideal to imagine that your offense can
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: adjust after the snap to what the defense does and
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: you know, I think in a perfect world, once you're
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: able to execute that, it's hard to go back and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: just say, let's just do what we do. I mean,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: and certainly they're getting the feedback now based on the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: performances that guys can't really do it, and so at
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: some point you have to just say, look, we don't
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: have the team that can can execute this anymore. As
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: much as it feels like it would be ideal to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: be able to challenge defenses that way, so that no
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: matter what they're spinning on us post snap, we have
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: you know, a bunch of players that can all adjust,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: but it just seems too far away. Everything seems disjointed.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: They're not able to stack drives. I mean, you know,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: they have a historic level of points right now in
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: a bad way. So, but is the answer just to
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: completely scrap the system and go back to you know
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: and completely go to something different that you know, with
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: new coaches, I mean, maybe you know, that might be
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: what it has to be.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's going to depend on how the crafts
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: want to proceed, you know, if if they in fact
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: move on from Belichick, what they want, what they're comfortable with.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're asking me what I would rather have.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: It would be a complete tear down and start over.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: And I would understand and recognize that that's probably going
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: to mean back to the guy who think I think
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: he thinks he's making fun of me, but I agree
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: with it, Like you're probably going to struggle.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: Again next year, yeah, you know, and if.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: The if the rookie quarterback is really good, that maybe
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you you win six games, you know, instead of two
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: that they have now. But I don't have any illusions
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: that you're just gonna like make a whole new system
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: and snap your fingers and be a contender. Takes time.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: The best scenario for rookie quarterback would be the Texans
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: right now, just like new coach, new new quarterback.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: And there's you know, I think that the and I
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: know the AFC South is like record wise, they're doing
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: much better, but I don't think it's a great division.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is terrible, sorry, Mike. I think that
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the Colts are much like the Texans, benefiting from you know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: like the best team in that division is not unbeatable,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so you can go
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: into a game with Jacksonville and you can expect to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: win it. You know, you might not win. I think
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville is the best team in that division. You've got,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: you know, games that could go either way against the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: in the other four games. And I also think the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Patriots could benefit from that a little bit next year
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: because you're going to get the fourth place team in
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of divisions plus the NF one. Right, like
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: those games that need to be decided, Like you'll put,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: what are the divisions they play next year, Mike? If
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: they played the North, they play the AFC.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: North, And it's my tom My head, I gotta look.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: NFC West in the NFC West.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: But I mean, what are the so so twenty twenty
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: four they play, Yeah, they play the AFC South.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they play the South next year. So they'll
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: get the fourth place team in the AFC North and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: the fourth place team in the AFC West, plus the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: fourth place team in the NFC division that they don't play,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever the rotation is. So that's three games
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: against fellow last place teams that can help you, you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: that can that can help you sort of, you know,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: like I said, go from two to three wins to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: five or six.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: So Chad's got a game. I kind of like this one.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: Would you rather get the rookie QB of your choosing,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: but you have to stick with BB or get the
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: wide receiver of your choosing and they have an MVP season,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: But you have to figure out the HC and the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: QB situation in free agency RLS, we're not the draft
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: I have.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: He turns out to be a great receiver. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take the known commodity of
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: a great player.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: I'll take And like, what if you get the quarterback
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: and it's just the same thing, right, You're not getting
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: him the help he needs. And now we're talking about
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: this in twenty twenty eight.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I would be scared that he would be
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 9: mishandled again and not given the proper resources to be great,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 9: like you know, offensive line help and talent around him,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 9: like weapons and everything. So I would definitely have to
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: go with the wide receiver. I feel like that's the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 9: safer bit.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: We got another game here, games.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Good job, good job, peeps.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: Gosh, she said, man, he said. I came up with
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: a quick guess who game that will hopefully lift up
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: everyone's spirits, especially Mike do I seem down to that?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, you always seem to depressed. You are a wicked
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: handsome I said that all.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: The time, Paul, You're making me blush. All right, Patriot
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: number one. This is a there's gonna be some hints
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: Matisse here on the spot here. I don't know, I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to get anyse I played at
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: tight end for the Patriots for nine years, wearing eighty seven.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: A trick question.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: No, did you just say, oh you can? You're only
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: allowed one guess? So if you're wrong, you're wrong.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: All right? You want hint too, hint too.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: I ended my career with only playing for one other
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: team outside of the Patriot organization.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to say Ben Coates.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: I was leaving ben Kotze, although Gronk will be with
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, not question sure that he did nine,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: but but one team and good, good popo.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: So that's what he was probably looking for. Obviously, say Gronk.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: I thought the obvious was Coats.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't even think it was one of the two.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: That was typical Paul with the CTE, I forget the guy,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: go right out of the nineties and I go right
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: back to my era.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: Hint number one. I wore number twenty four for the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Patriots during my tenure. All right, so you can process
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: some of those names.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: See now I'm ignoring Stefan Gilmour law, but go ahead.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: After leaving the Patriots, I went on to play corner
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: for three more teams in the NFL.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: The Great Ty i't.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Out of my whole time spent in New England. There
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: were only two years I made the play Pro Bowl
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: and first team All Pro, and only one season where
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: I was a league leader in I n T S.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: I think I believe in you. I believe in you.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: I know this number twenty four. He's a corner back
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: not too long ago. You can do it to me
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: twenty four step gil.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Trick right here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: It wasn't the reverse trip, I really I wanted to.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: I wanted that for you. I wanted that for you
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: for three teams.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: We gave him away for a bag of chips.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: There's some ships. Yeah, the bag of trip.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: I'm the best corner on this team. Uh, he's so humble.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: Hitt one. I signed with the Patriots after playing with
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: the Dolphins. Oh this is well, this is kind of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: a tricky one. I was a linebacker who only spent
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: four seasons with the Pats, and I accumulated twenty two
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: point five sacks during my time with the Patriots. I'm
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: going to give this one to you guys, because I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: don't it's it's confusing.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Can you give me.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: He isn't most known for the Dolphins. He played for
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: the Dolphins after here. I don't. I don't think this
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: is the hit. Number one might be. No, he played
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: with another team in the NFC first. He had twenty
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: two and a half sacks four season, Convin Noy. Yeah,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: so I think it was a little bit of mistake
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: there in the email.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: Playing with the Ravens.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he signed with the Ravens. And I saw Logan
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Ryan signed with San Francisco yesterday.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: As Harmon going to sign somewhere next like Harmon was still.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: In the league.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think he's maybe Chicago.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 9: Was.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: When you go to and ten, you sort of lose
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: sight of the personnel around the league.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean to be fair, like, I feel like
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: they could have kind of used the Ron Harmon this
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: year as like a free safety type.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: But I maybe he tells me the defense isn't that
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: his green bananas but defens is like lights out.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: Now, well there were you know, uh, I know, I know,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: Paul how much you loved the EPA stats and uh
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: they're thirty first. Got this today from an EPA against
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: what is it Steaks?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: There's a little Steaks gift package holiday gift pack.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: You feel good about Christmas this year? You're doing a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: good job. You're gonna stock up on some presents there.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: For Well, I did get a couple of things that
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: she didn't tell me about, so I do feel good.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I always feel good when this when there's something that
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: she didn't have to necessarily drop a bunch of hints about.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I have some work to do based on
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: my birthday missteps.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: Because I hate buying Christmas gifts Like no one else
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: has to buy gifts for someone else on their birthday.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: Well, you can buy them before your birthday.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: No, it's annoying. I hate it.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I enjoy it when I I mean it's rare. But
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: when I have that one thing that I know that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: someone's going to really like and not expect. It doesn't
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: happen all the time. But when I come up with
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: something that I know is going to be a hit,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy buying.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: Too, And I thought last year that president for me
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: was was tickets to the Stevie Nicks Billy Joel concert,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: which we decided not to go to because it was raining.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't pan out for you didn't.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: Pan out Elfrim Wisconsin. It worries me a bit how
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: much I agree with dark Deuce. But I really think
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: nothing on this team is good enough. I know he's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: not here, but Evan is crazy for wanting to make
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: Mayo the DC and hire an offensive coach. You're gonna
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: hire someone in and not let them pick their own DC.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 6: A new coach will be absolutely will be looking over
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: his shoulder all the time talking about meddling ownership.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't really gotten into it this week because
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: it's not the time, because the defense has been perfectly fine.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Like I think you know when you love ten, ten
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: and six, it's just not the time. I agree with
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: the sentiment of that email. I don't think you need
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: to keep girod Mayo in order to keep the defense
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: playing at the level it's playing. Like, I think their
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: defense is fine. I don't like is he the only
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: that you know? It's just because of the Belichicks in
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Drodmeo that they're playing well, yeah, like I think that
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: somebody else could do that.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, and that was the point. You don't think
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: plays there well, there aren't game changing defenses really. I mean,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe a couple, but it's just I don't
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: think that the bar is so high that you know,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: and I mean maybe if you were coming off one
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: of those seasons like oh three or something where it's
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: just like my god, this team is clicking on all
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: cylinders on defense. But I mean, I honestly think, like
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: I was just about to say, like, I think the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: thirty first in EP against the pass. I mean, it's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: not like is it that low, It's really low. It
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: just came out today and you know they send us
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: the little things.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: They believe I hit my tongue for two days, so.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it's not perfect.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I just think it's easy to look
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: at the point sometimes and just say that, you know,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: this is what it is. It's like I said, I
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: think during the break, I said, like, I I feel
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: like some of these teams scored the amount of points
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: that they needed to score to win, and they just
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: said we can't like for Brandon Staley not to go
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: for any of those fourth downs, and he got a
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: lot of fourth and shorts.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: He's notorious for that, right, and.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I know he's done it less this year.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: I don't even care because he's.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Done it less this year. But they had a lot
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: of fourth and shorts in that game, like less than
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: three yards. He didn't go for a single one. But
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: what's think it's because he's.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: The only win if we win that game. He's on LinkedIn.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: He wasn't gonna make it like it's.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: Not currently looking for work.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I think if they lost, he was
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: out gone.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: He's still probably God, You're welcome.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: You know. Just one thing I want to bring up, though,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: is I you know, like Brandon, like Robert Craft and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Craft are going to make this decision, and you know.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be Fred Kurt and it's not
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be Fred kurtr Perillo.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: But there's something to be said, like what do they want?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, does Robert, at this stage in his career
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: and owning this team, want to bring in a bunch
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: of new guys who are going to run his team
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: the whole thing?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Or does he want to concern. Let's you know, we
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: can because he you know, he's he's in his eighties
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: and and he wants to win.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: You know, when you have to think like like, I mean,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: I guess the philosophy is and we've we've had this talk,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: Paul is you know, well, it's going to be the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: Patriots kind of system, but it's gonna be without the
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: mean old guy, you know, like without build like like
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: like that's just what they want to extract. Is they
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: want to, you know, give it kind of a younger
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: feel that might appeal towards the younger players and get
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: those guys back on board. And you know, maybe've heard
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: guys in locker room talk about how much they love
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: Gerard and lev listening to him speaking. I mean, and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: it seems like I love he would be able to
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: motivate guys to play. But I just I think there's
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: something about me that I just I struggle imagining Robert
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Kraft at this stage saying I'm ready to start all
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: over again with a whole new bunch of guys and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: try to figure it out with those guys. I just
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: I think that there's gonna want he's gonna want to
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: have an element of continuity and a familiarity that he
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: doesn't lose, and you know, I don't know if that's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: the best thing for the team. There's also a big
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: part of me that feels like this next regime is
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: probably gonna be a placeholder for when they actually get good.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: This is gonna be kind of a couple of years
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: of treading water and maybe a young head coach making
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 6: some mistakes and you know, hopefully starting to find the
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: talent that you get out of this draft and maybe
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: next year's draft and developing those guys and then you know,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: all this promise is kind of happening, and then you
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: bring in the real head coach. That's when you know,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: that's when it really takes off.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm sure they're looking at it, and
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: they might not be wrong to do it, like girod Mayo,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Like they're probably looking at Tamiko Ryans, you know, defensive
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: guy for more player stepped in immediately and has at
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: least put the Texans on the road to contention. Like
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I would say the illusion of contention. But
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: they're in it. It's seven and five, They're in it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: You know they're going to play meaningful games in December
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: for the first time since when Billy Oh yeah yeah.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: So they might look at it and say, well, they
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: hired a defensive guy, a former player, never had never
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: done it before, and it's worked, so why can't it
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: work with Jerrod Mayo.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 9: I would have loved to see, Well, it's like you
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 9: can't cry or spilt book now. But like if they
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 9: decided to get rid of Bill a few games ago,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know, the Saints game thirty four nothing, and
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 9: then go with Jerrod Mayo, there's the season to see
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 9: what he does as an interim coach. It's too late
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 9: to do it now because you don't want to ruin
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 9: the draft pick. But it would have been nice to see, like, Okay,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 9: let's give him a shot to be the interim head
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: coach and see what he does.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think that's fair? Like, I mean, I don't.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: I don't have an opinion on it, but it just
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: for for you know, if you were JAIROB. Mayo, do
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: you feel like that's fair to get a chance with
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: a team that you really didn't I mean, I know,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he has had an input into it, but
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: like kind of like we talked about when ZAPPI gets
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: thrust in kind of crazy situation and good luck here audition.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: For an interim guy. It doesn't work and he doesn't
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: turn anything around, and he's dismissed. And even when it works,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: they almost never hired.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, how come they never? I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: mean Rick, the you know, the Raiders guy.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I mean there's rich besides very very hurt Christian, and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Christian knows do you think and he knows what I'm feeling.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: Do you think if they got blown out that Raiders
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: game it was over for for Bill? I don't know,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: like they got blown out like another thirty days against Dallas.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: They got blown out against Noorleans, but it wasn't a
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: blowout against the Raiders. The quarterback, Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean maybe I still can't wrap
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: my head around that. Josh was there for how many
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: games in preseason, regular season and he still beat the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: Patriots three times in the time that he was with
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: the Raiders.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: You could make an argument that he was like on
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: a short list of the most disastrous head coaches in
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: NFL history. He didn't make it through his second year
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: twice and found a way to go three and oh
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: against the page.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: And technically four and oh because he beat him with
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: the Broncos too, right, I mean it's a head coaches.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: The Patriots couldn't figure out a way, isn't that three?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: Well the preseason game, I mean I was you know,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know, but you know, you
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: know how you do these things and you move things
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: to make it look a certain way.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do Felger three times, Yes, Felger, I do
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: know four four times to beat you four.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: Times, and not even Fred's like anger towards him could
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: prevent him from from doing the same thing. Here.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, he should have seen Fred that day.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: He was apoplectic. He was so mad at Josh. Was
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: sitting on the bus and right out the window, like
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Josh is like hugging everybody and like big laughs, smiles
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: laughter in Denver and okay, when they beat us in nine,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Fred was so mad. Look at this guy, we look
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: at him. We just lost the game. You should have
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: some respect. And I'm like Fred, he's excited as a
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: young guy. He's coming over and he's like, I can't
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: believe that.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I've never seen Fred so mad in my life.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: Tyler and Providen's got a draft question. I don't know
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: if I don't know this one, Paul. If there is
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: there any rule that will prevent a college player like
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: Caleb Williams from declaring, from not declaring for the draft,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: but making his plan to play known, and then after
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: the draft, oh, signing a contract with the highest bidder.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: No, you can't do that. No, because if you're not
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: eligible for the draft, you're not eligible.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: To be signed. Because they didn't Michael Crabtree with the
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: contract a few years ago, he would have had to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: go back into the draft.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can do that, you can do he doesn't
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: have to come out. But if you're not eligible for
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: the draft, you're not eligible to be signed. That's a
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: whole process. Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Does he have the opportunity to, like say.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: I don't want to go to Yes, but that's just
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: is that just a warning shot?
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Though John always Didli Manning did it. Yeah. I would
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: take them and say, all right, we're not what he's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: gonna do.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: Well, I saw the teams that he named like that
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: he wanted to play for. I don't know what it
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: was like his like five favorite teams as a kid
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: like and there was no rhyme or reason to like
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: why he wanted to see all these like, oh he
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: said this, he said that, but like it's sources, it's
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: always sources, said he said this, Like.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I got an argument with Fred in the post game show.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: It's his father is a potential problem that would worry.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: Like Friday Night Lights with Michael B. Jordan's bad Did
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: he even make it that.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Far in the show, Michael, Did I make it that far?
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: Did you watch the show?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: I watched every episode that the show was phenomenous.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: Best show. Yeah, I got to watch.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan was as good as a smash though
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: the Smash was better than Michael B. Joris, much better
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: running back.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: Do you want my idea topic here?
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: This is what we're here for.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: Friday night Lights. We got Friday Night Lights. But it's
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: Minnesota high school hockey. They need to make that dude,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: You would.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: Like that, dude, I I almost I tried to. Well,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 6: there's a book about Minnesota high school hockey. I forget
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: what the title is out the top of my head.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: But but some producers are trying to make a movie
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: into it, and so I had like a meeting about
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: like trying it the same thing though it's a Minnesota
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: high school hockey. But I'm a mask guy. I can't.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: I can't, I can't.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: I want I want to do prep school hockey. That's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: what you said, school.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Prep school hockey.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: Well, with all these new hockey schools that are coming
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: out now, like they're just academy rich like Charles, like
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 6: Mattinyon went under. But like those schools now are they're
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: like hockey academies. They're not even you know, real schools anymore.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: They're just people go to play hockey.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: So is that like Mount Saint Charles is not a
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: school anymore.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: It's just still a school. But I think their primary
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: img of ice focus hockey team. They have like seven
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: teams or something crazy like that. I just don't know
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 6: what the end of it all is. Like it's just
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: like what you're you're gonna put all this time and
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: money into it. Your kid's gonna be a twenty two
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: year old freshman at like Trinity, like you know, like
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: check twenty five, like and what like what what to
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: what end are you getting? I don't know, I don't
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: get it. I just it's it's totally different.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Quinnipiac National title. So who's to argue?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: I saw some I saw some some recruits there for Northeast.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 6: They did you some signings?
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Did I miss that? I'm mad? If you're out, I'm
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: not out. I'm just mad.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, speed speed ways in and just says I think
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: there's a zero point zero chance the Crafts don't keep
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 6: Mayo on the staff in what capacity I'm not sure,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 6: but odds are a promotion of some sort. What constraints
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: does that create when rebuilding the coaching staff? Too many
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: in my honest opinion.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if it's not head coach, he's not
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: coming back.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah you think you don't think you would stay for
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: DC because he's not actually the DC.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: He's not the head coach. I don't think he's going
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: to have the option.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: Right, you can't hire the DC.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Unless I mean, I'm not saying zero point zero like
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: maybe they high Mike do so Mike Dusau really wants
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Gerrod Mayo. Other teams that just want Mayo as well,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: But like, I don't know why you would stay if
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: you felt like, right, well, if this whole thing that
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: we've been sold on is that they convinced him to
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: stay last year because he's the guy in waiting, and
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: then you make a move and you don't. I mean
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: I would if I were Gerard, I would leave.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: It's also before we went to and ten.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: But it just makes me wonder, like, really, what was
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: going on last year with the whole because I mean
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: I was reviewing some of the stuff we did in
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: the off season last year where you had, you know,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: it was like a big deal about Mayo getting a
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: contract extension and we were kind of trumpeting that, and
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: you know, we get to this point now and if
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, like logically, and I mean I think everybody
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 6: realizes that it seems like, well, they love Mayo, they
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: wanted to keep him around, like he's got to be
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: the clubhouse favorite right now, to be to be that guy.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: But there's no other real way to consider unless you said,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: unless the guy who wrote and said, you know the
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: Billy O thing where it's Billy Oh, and you know,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: we'll just kind of shift everybody a little bit. But
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know, It's just it's hard to see him
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 6: staying unless he's the head which because otherwise the new
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 6: head coaching is going to be up to him, right
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: or GM I wanted.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: I want GM, That's what I want.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: I just wanted what a new G. What about a
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: new GM?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: I want a GM would be great.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: I want the San Francisco assistant guy.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just with with Mayo Adam Peters, Yeah, just like
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: come on, and then maybe a new offensive coordinator.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: I just want somebody to pick the players for US
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: de Marcus.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Covington Yeah, and I would. And I wouldn't be opposed
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: to Billy oh staying if he wanted to, but I
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: would put that in a similar situation to matter that
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about. If O'Brien doesn't get the job,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: he probably wants to go somewhere else to get a job.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: I I still don't know how I feel about O'Brien,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: Like I like my immediate reaction is like, I don't
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: really feel it's his fault.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: I can't argue with the results though. It's the worst
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: offensive football and he's the offensive so I get that.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: I think part of it is just still I'm living
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: off of that first press conference moment when he came
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: in down there in the press room and last spring
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: and it was like, oh, thank god, we got it,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 6: like a you know, real offensive adult back in the room,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: knows what he wants, knows what he's gonna do. We're
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: going to be fine, you know, at the very least,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: this will be an average offense. He'll get He'll get
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 6: Mac back on track in three months.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: So what about Saracen? What you think of him as
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: a quarterback?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: A great guy, the great guy, gretty guy, gritty.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got the most out of his better than yeah. Yeah,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: got the most out of his ability, playing well above
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the rim with Amy t.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: Who's the long haired who's the long haired? Wild card kid?
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Riggins?
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: Riggins?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: I watched a few episodes. Do you watch any of this? Now,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: this isn't a lot there was there.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: Was Riggins need the right coach, he would have went
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: to the league.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: And how many seasons did did.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: This series go?
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: Five?
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: But it was during the writers strike so that you
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: could like tell there's some flaws. In season two, all.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: Of a sudden, the kids got looked like two years older.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then like people are getting murdered and like
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: it's crazy.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: But were the same kids on the team, like or
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: was there like a freshman class and they rotated over?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: Ashman class comes through and that I won't spoil it,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: but no, no.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: It's okay.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: It is like fifteen years old at this point. Spoiler.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: I think shoul watching. So you have your initial class
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: and then it turns out the town it's a fictional town.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: There's the east side of town that happens like that's
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: the last two seasons.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he has to go with the other
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: like East Dylan.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the school you were rooting for is
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: now like the bad.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: Guys, right, they turned into the bad guys because they
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: they kicked coach Taylor out.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 6: By the way, I love that's pretty good. I mean
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: that's just from like a hey, we're running out of steam.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: How can we spice this up here? Is because I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: mean all TV series dramas get it's.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: Just funny to see, like the actor comes in, Luke Cafferty.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: By far the third worst third, you know, behind Michael B.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Jordan's and Smash, you know, but a good, solid player nonetheless.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: But then he's like, you know, he's having some physical
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: issues and stuff.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: It's like, is this your law and Arto Paul you
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: seem like you you love the show.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's great.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: I've watched it. I've watched probably like the first three
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: four episodes and whatever.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: Definitely watched every episode, the best of scene, the old
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: actors who like Jesse Plevens, he's in it. I remember
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't really know if Jesse Plemons and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: anything else.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: He's He's in Kill as a Flower Moon Game. I
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: can go on for a while. What else I don't know.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: He's too many movies.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, so so far it just sounds like things that
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen. So that's why I didn't know. But
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Minka Kelly, a young Minka Kelly, No, I'm familiar.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: Are you?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Lila garrety was throwing high heat. Uh that was the
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: other one. But Jesse Plemons with the tyra like you said,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like flaws in.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Buddy Garrett as GM we could do something.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Buddy Garretty was a good, solid, crooked booster with a
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: good heart.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, so I think we got your next you halftime,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: your next Pew say this is the Pew Happen Show.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: You gotta get Paul on. We're gonna happy Friday night lights,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, like, come on, he didn't see Breaking Bad?
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Like Mike, have any idea what that.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: Is black black man, at least I know what Black Mass.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: I do remember him in.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: Black Mass American Maid.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: I never heard of that. I do remember him in
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Black Mass Battleship Vice.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: Seriously, never I'll get you on the halftime show.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: But we could do Mike's Mad at Me. But we
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: could do definitely thirty five minute.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 6: Well, Christian did write in and just said, not a
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 6: nice friend you have there, Paul, shame on you do
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 6: so we you know he wrote in about my I'm
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: sorry for the Italians there. Yeah, to mean to hurt
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: your feelings, very very hurt. Bart from Poland rights in
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: Hey guys. On the pregame show, Paul said, in response
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: to my email of time.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Nothing taking nothing good starts with that line taking somebody's
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: coming at you with receipts.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: Taking Daniels in the top three, that he would be
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: cautious about a player jumping twenty to thirty spots after
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: the season is over. And I agree with that. However,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: I don't think it applies here. While Daniels wasn't a
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 6: first rounder before the season, now Daniels is already a
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 6: consensus top ten to fifteen pick by most draft experts.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen, we're talking about taking him at two. Yeah,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I agree with I agree with his premise exactly, and
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: I do. I do think it's different. What really And Mike,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: you can back me up on this because you and
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: I did argue a little bit about this at the time.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: What really troubled me about mac Jones was he did
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: not rise now at this time of the football season.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones wasn't shooting up the draft boards to the
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, it was after the season. Those are
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: the guys that worry me that something happens between February
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: first and April thirtieth that causes a guy to go
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: from a third round pick to the middle of the
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: first round. Those guys worry me. And that always worried
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  Speaker 1: me about mac Jones. Is he just interviewing great? Everybody
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  Speaker 1: likes the guy?
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  Speaker 9: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Is that all this is about? Jayden Daniels, to the
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  Speaker 1: emailer's credit, maybe didn't start the season as a first
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: round pick, but he's played his way into being a
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: first round pick. That worried me about Zach Wilson, by
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: the way, too. Yeah, I didn't remember anybody talking about
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson in the first round until you know that
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: season was over.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, just Ben keeping you guys correct. He said Michael B.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: Jordan was a QB, not a running back.
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  Speaker 1: I think I may have said that that is correct.
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  Speaker 1: I will I will own that. I will own that
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't his first practice. Why can I not remember
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  Speaker 1: what his name was? Oh, I can't remember his name.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna get that real quick. It's driving
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  Speaker 4: me crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Is it safe to say with this year's quarterbacks?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: This is really getting mad? And we're not talking Lauren
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Orders completely?
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  Speaker 6: Is it safe to say, though, that this year's quarterback
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: class there isn't really a mac Jones type lacking athleticism? Like,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: are all these guys at least have pretty good athleticism.
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  Speaker 6: They can talk and run a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know of any of them that don't
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: have any ability to make a play with their legs.
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  Speaker 5: I feel Notre Dame's quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 6: Are Yeah, well you would know say it doesn't have
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: any I mean, wait, aren't you gonna aren't you gonna
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: be on the offensive tackle though? Isn't that going to
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: be your Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, but I feel like I feel like they
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 9: always have a great offensive line and a pocket passing quarterback.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: They really The last one that was mobile was like
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 9: DeShawn which he didn't last long ago. I remember him, yeah,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 9: and then yeah, he didn't last he didn't last long.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 9: And then and then Brandan Winbush who he ended up
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 9: transferring to.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say anything like overlly disrespectful, but
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: that's why you haven't been relevant.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, they always have a pocket passer, a great offensive line, like,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 9: but their quarterbacks don't pan out.
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  Speaker 6: I think you're just gonna run out there with your
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 6: helmets shining and the line.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Sam Hartman will be that guy that people will talk
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: themselves into him. You know, a lot of experience, started,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: a million games, a lot of production.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: Pocket passer.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they just good beard, strong beard.
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  Speaker 6: Chris Cassidy uh from here in art. He weighs and says,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: Marmon Harrison and Bonnix. Later, I will stand by.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: Bone nexs has been playing with the Obama administration.
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  Speaker 1: I have I gotta tell you. I will say I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: am out on Bonix.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: It would be cool to get Marvin Harrison and then
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: getting no and then getting jaded like that would be
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 9: great if you could trade up and get him late
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 9: first round but still get Marvin in that first pick.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: You treat the mock draft simulator like mad and you
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: can get Caleb and Marvin.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: But that's what people do. That's what people do on Twitter. Yeah,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: somehow they just you know, the guy I want is
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: available every pick, like I got I don't know if
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: you know, but I got Jaden Daniels.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: And the thing is like that, the top prospects of
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: the receivers are so good. Like obviously, like we said earlier,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is the top guy, but if you get
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: a quarterback, you can maybe get you know, with that
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: the second which is pretty much the first, you can
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: move up and maybe get one of those other holes.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean do it. I mean I don't know
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: how high these guys are going to go. I don't
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: do the mock draft stuff, certainly not yet, but I
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: won't ever do it. Why not take a quarterback, you know,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: take Jayden Daniels, you know, wherever in the top five,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: and then get maliite neighbors later.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: It's going to happen to it happened this year. It's
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: going to be receiver, receiver, receiver, it happens a Flowers,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: Quintin Johnson on all the other two. But you know
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: that's going to happen.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: Yes, maybe yeah, Well let me let me ask you
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: guys this this maybe last question here at some I've
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 6: just been thinking about looking at next year's depth chart.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: You have DeVante Parker is under contract, Juju Smith Schuster
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: is under contract to Mario Douglas under contract.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: That's the question.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: Wait for it, Wait for it. Taekwon Thornton is under contract.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: So four guys. Kendrick Bourne is a free agent. How
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: would you approach this group this offseason? Because you're spending
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: a lot of money. Now, you certainly could cut. You
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: could cut Juji, you could cut DeVante Parker. I mean
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 6: they've shown an appetite to give DeVante Parker a couple
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 6: contracts now, So how would you approach it? Would you
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 6: go into free agency and spend more money? Would you
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: cut those guys, eat the eat the dead money and
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: try to rebuild it, you know, through free agency? Would
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 6: you just say, let's bring those guys back and draft
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 6: a couple guys and try to incorporate them in a
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: manageable salary, Like how would you kind of approach it?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: Knowing that and then Kendrick Bourne's out there too. Would
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: you resign Kendrick Bourne.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: Kenrick the rest of them?
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can trade them, awesome, If not, smell you.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 6: So sign Kendrick Bourne to a free agency deal, your deal.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: I have no interest in that.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying because I think that's he's been here,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: he knows it, and like he's off the ACL so
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: you can get him.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: But what does he know You're going to be running
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: something totally different than when you're running.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I think we're losing. We're losing down some vets
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: and you need a vet in a lot.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my my plan would be to go heavy in
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: free agency for somebody and.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 6: One guy, like get a big dog, Mike, get Mike Evans, you.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Know, Mike Evans, t Higgins. Now t Higgins is probably
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: going to be too much for them, but I would
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: go heavy for one of those guys, and then that
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: takes the pressure off and and and yeah, I know
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: that like Juju's cap hit if they cut him is
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: like over twelve million, so he's probably not going to
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: get cut. But you could probably figure out a way
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: to get rid of one of those guys somehow, that's
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: my question. And then you have to draft. Some I
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: do think there's always good receivers that you can get
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: on Day two. So if you don't, I mean, I
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: get it. Tackles a huge need. Quarterbacks a huge need. Yeah,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: wide receiver is a huge need. But you can't get
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: them all in the first round, so maybe you wait
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: for Day two and get a good receiver instead of
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison the June.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: That's just what I'm struggling with is I just feel
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: like their finances at the position are completely upside down
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: right now, and I just you know, you need you
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: need better players for sure, but I just there's no
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 6: easy way to kind of wave a wand and get
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: rid of the guys you don't want with dead money
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: and bring in the new guys you.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Do And by the way, you could have zero tight
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: ends too.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 9: So it's also like, how did you not learn anything
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 9: from John new and Nelson Agalore in that group, and
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: then you spend money on DeVante Parker.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: Who's done nothing, and you do who like isn't able
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: to do what he used to do.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: Those are I'm.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: Confused concerning They're concerning. I mean, it's it's I mean,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: then those are you know, recent pieces that they I mean, they.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: You have to hope that you're gonna, you know, when
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: you change this, that the change and approach is going
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: to help those guys be bigger factors, because you can't
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: just have you can't just change the receivers. You know,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: you can't bring in t Higgins and think, well, what's
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: going to prove Higgins from being like Kendrick born in
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Nelson Agaloor and just be you know, like, no, you
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: got to do something to make sure that they enemy assimilarly.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: Isn't it fair to say that that the Patriots had
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 6: have had way more interest in a guy like Devonte
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 6: Parker than probably any other team in the league.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: Is there?
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: Is it really reasonable to believe that a coach, a
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: new coach would come in here and have a use
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 6: for him, Like I just I struggled to see a
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: new coach coming in and saying this is a this
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 6: is a guy we need to keep that we need
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: to keep this contested.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that would be a fear because
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: if you get rid of both of those guys, and
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: now the millions and millions of dollars in cast space
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: and you spend you know, twenty million of them is
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: dead money on two receivers that aren't on your team.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's hard.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 9: I'm hoping whoever it is comes in and is like,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 9: not not as dramatic as coach Prime, but comes in
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 9: and is like, this roster sucks and we might have
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 9: to bite a few million, but like we cannot.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: Keep all of them.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, would you resend Hunter Henry?
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I would.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 6: It depends what the price is, to be honest, But
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: would Redo No, Well, how would you approach to the
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 6: tight end position?
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: Then look, keep Barrel, but I wouldn't be opposed to
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: keeping him as like tight end. But I would probably
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: try to draft the guy, maybe sign somebody in free
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: agency that's you know a little bit of a lesser deal,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get him at less money than he's making.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: You already paid him too much money.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, draft, I think he's right around thirty. But I mean,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 6: I I like what the Packers did. I mean, you know,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 6: they like all this stuff that we're talking about. I
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: feel like they've just been stacking receivers. They drafted two
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: tight ends last year. I mean they got you know,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 6: Watson and where, but not in the first I mean
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 6: second Watson do But those first two days read but
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: talented guys not is a craft Tucker Craft right?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: And then the other guy the other think of the
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: other musk Grave, lukebus Grave, like not first round picks,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: like you can do it, but you you gotta do
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: it and you had.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: Some throwing a GM and you probably need department.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just did fresh minds.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 6: I think you look at Green Bay right now, and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 6: that's you know, I mean, I don't know how good
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 6: they really are. I mean everyone's high, but they're young, energetic.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think now this is where I would say,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: like as opposed to Pittsburgh, which I don't think has
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of talent on the roster, green Bay I
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: can see something if Jordan Love continues to play the
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: way he did the last three games, and these guys,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: I can see something. These guys are all going to
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: get better together and then all of a sudden, you know,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: and not bad on the defensive side of the ball
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: either in terms of youth with like they have and
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: kway Walker is there too, right they have I mean
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: they have something individual personnel JayR Alexander's no, you know,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: no dinosaur. They could be, you know, two years from now,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: you can be looking at them the way we look
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: at San Francisco.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 6: Now, all right, well that's gonna do it for us.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 6: Make sure you stay for the playbook. John Rook up
• 1:57:52
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• 1:57:55
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• 1:57:58
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• 1:58:01
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