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Chuck & Buck 1-22 Hour 2: Ohhhh the drama! Cher-Coacherie Board and a big missing piece? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: of course a big topic of conversation nationally. The narrative
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Speaker 2: is about his whether or not he has the juice
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Speaker 2: to win in a big game such as the NFC
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Speaker 2: Conference championship game. We kind of feel here at least
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Speaker 2: most of us, that we're not worried about that he's
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Speaker 2: got the juice. Well, we're worried about is that injury
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Speaker 2: and just how healthy he's going to be after playing
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Speaker 2: with that injury this past week, taking a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a beating, but then being able to put his
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Speaker 2: feet up on the desk for the end of the
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Speaker 2: third quarter and the entire fourth quarter. How is Sam
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Speaker 2: Darnold feeling? How is he uh preparing for this Rams
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Speaker 2: game on Sunday? Yesterday he spoke to the media about it.
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Speaker 6: Felt good, you know, feeling really good just attacking Rehoub
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Speaker 6: these last couple of days. Obviously will be throughout the week, So,
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Speaker 6: like I said, just got to continue to prepare and
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Speaker 6: get my body right for Sunday. Donald say he exhaled
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Speaker 6: a little bit after the sequence where you got sacked
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Speaker 6: and then hit Cooper on the next play.
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Speaker 5: Did you have any moments in the game like that
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Speaker 5: what he felt like, Yeah, I'm gonna be okay or
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Speaker 5: anything with that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think just once I came out, to be honest,
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Speaker 6: once I came out and warm ups and felt good
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Speaker 6: throwing the ball, you know, I was confident about going
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Speaker 6: out there and letting it rip. And you know, whatever
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Speaker 6: happens throughout the game, whether I take a hit or not,
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Speaker 6: like you know, it's whatever happens happens. You know, if
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Speaker 6: I something you know, tragic happens and I you know,
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Speaker 6: go down and you know, can't get up or you know, uh,
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Speaker 6: then it is what it is. And you know, uh,
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Speaker 6: Drew Jalen, you know they're they're ready to go. But
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Speaker 6: obviously hopefully that doesn't happen. But yeah, I'm I'm ready to,
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Speaker 6: you know, attack everything and be ready for anything.
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold yesterday talking about his injury. Bob Candot to
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Speaker 2: the other voice that you heard always prying.
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Speaker 3: It's like there, it's like they think it's their job
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Speaker 3: to ask questions.
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Speaker 2: You always knowsy that guy so many questions. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what was it in your your business? How he felt? Yeah, anyway,
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't see any reasoned here again to
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Speaker 2: worry about this. I mean, if Sam gets up to
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Speaker 2: the podium on Wednesday yesterday and he's like trying to
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Speaker 2: answer questions and like, yeah, I felt pretty cool, yeah,
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Speaker 2: pretty bad, good, really good in the game. I mean
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Speaker 2: I took a couple of big hits, no big issue.
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Speaker 2: I mean I really muscle hold on, give me a second,
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Speaker 2: I muscled through.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good.
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Speaker 2: Ale, Yeah, then we got a problem. Yeah, but you know,
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Speaker 2: straight backed, clear of voice, strong of will I think
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Speaker 2: Sam's fine.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too. I mean the when when Matt
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Speaker 5: Hasselbeck starts talking about how you're just you feel totally
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Speaker 5: fine with it, and then it's just whether or not
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Speaker 5: you got the fastball. That led me to have a
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Speaker 5: little bit more concern about it than I did before
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Speaker 5: going into last week and then even majority of this week.
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Speaker 5: It just I mean, I have never thrown a football
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Speaker 5: like these guys throw footballs, and so I don't understand
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Speaker 5: where that kind of torque. But I mean I've obviously
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Speaker 5: thrown a ball a lot, and I know what that
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Speaker 5: feeling of having a tweaked obleak would be. You're not
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Speaker 5: going to pitch with it, you don't want to swing
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Speaker 5: a bat with it, I'll tell you that. But to
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Speaker 5: be able to go out.
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Speaker 2: There, players are soft. Yeah, sure, sure you.
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Speaker 5: Will go with that, and you just yeah, lazy soft
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Speaker 5: there for their teammates. Yeah, quitters, yea, all of that right,
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Speaker 5: And then we heard you were putting down Yeah good,
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you guys were getting it. I was trying
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Speaker 5: to not say it. I didn't want to throw it.
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Speaker 3: You were subtle about it.
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Speaker 5: All my friends under the bus. But yeah, you guys
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Speaker 5: are horrible and weak minded individuals. But Sam Donald is not.
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Speaker 5: I I don't have a bunch of worry about. He's
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Speaker 5: definitely going to play. I would think that that the
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Speaker 5: fact that they're still like, we're not. He's not throwing
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Speaker 5: every pass in practice, he's not going to Mike McDonald said,
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Speaker 5: we're not, he's not gonna do that, is the fact
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Speaker 5: that they're still watching out for it. That there's still
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Speaker 5: something there that kind of lingers a little bit and
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Speaker 5: probably will be for the remainder of the season. But
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Speaker 5: if they have it to the point where he's still
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Speaker 5: going to be fine to play, and if it was
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Speaker 5: to get bad enough that they had to shoot him
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Speaker 5: with something that some sort of you know, a masking
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Speaker 5: agent that makes it where it doesn't hurt. He'll do that,
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Speaker 5: I guarantee it for a couple more games. What's some
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Speaker 5: butter on it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I always read.
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Speaker 2: Butter on you on your womb.
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Speaker 4: I think too, because it is his left oblique right right,
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Speaker 4: that's the opposite, yeah, oite side, so that I think
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Speaker 4: that we you know, he lucked out in the sense
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Speaker 4: that that's the side that got hurt.
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not. It's not.
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Speaker 2: Actually they say that's the worst side.
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Speaker 4: See, I would think the throwing motion would make the
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Speaker 4: right side work.
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Speaker 5: No, I think because that's the one that's the side
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Speaker 5: is going to kind of initiate the twist, the pulling
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Speaker 5: of torquing your your tors so a little bit. I mean,
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Speaker 5: it is what it is. I think he caught it
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Speaker 5: right when it happened, and then they stopped the the
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Speaker 5: the progress of the injury at that point in time.
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Speaker 5: To me, it feels like I don't think it's much
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Speaker 5: of an issue. I wouldn't worry about it whole heck
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Speaker 5: of a lot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't notice it at all in the game.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think an expert. I probably did, like
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Speaker 2: Matt Hasselbeck been through the experience, probably did. Maybe they
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Speaker 2: did be a little more conservative with some play calling,
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Speaker 2: but when you win by thirty five, it doesn't really
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Speaker 2: show up. And so that was perhaps the best medicine
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Speaker 2: that you didn't have to gut it out for all
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Speaker 2: four quarters on Saturday because of a lopsided contest. So
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold looks like he's ready to go, and that's
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Speaker 2: great news for all football fans. Let's face it, the
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Speaker 2: last thing you want to do is go to the
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Speaker 2: NFC conference championship game with a quarterback injury.
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Speaker 3: What that would be terrible to be at your conference championship.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. It's awesome when you just get I mean,
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Speaker 5: I would think it would be totally fine to just
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Speaker 5: go through the grueling part of a full season and
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Speaker 5: then you know, get to buy and then your first
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Speaker 5: game you win it in you know, outstanding fashion game,
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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, for some reason after
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Speaker 5: the game's over, Nope, starting quarterback doesn't get to play
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Speaker 5: the next game. You're right, I don't think you have
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Speaker 5: to worry about that with Sam Darnold, And that would
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Speaker 5: be that would be rough if you.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if the NFL now regrets rigging the game
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Speaker 2: for the Bronco.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably they do.
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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, they could have had Josh Allen.
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Speaker 3: We didn't have the broken bone in our script.
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen playing this week.
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Speaker 5: If I think basically Sean McDermott is mad because he
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Speaker 5: got beat by a guy with a broken ankle and
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Speaker 5: got fired, that's basically what it. Couldn't beat a guy
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Speaker 5: that had a broken ankle.
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure the Broncos are in trouble because they
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Speaker 4: didn't stick to the script and keep him healthy.
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Speaker 3: That's what you're supposed to do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks a lot, Peyton. Anyway, I was I've got something,
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Speaker 2: and I don't think I have nearly enough time to
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Speaker 2: do it now now they were down to like eight
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Speaker 2: minutes left in the segment. But maybe we'll do this
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Speaker 2: more frequently. Because I went back through my notes that
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Speaker 2: I made during the last Seahawks Rams game to come
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Speaker 2: from behind, I think there's some interesting things that popped
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Speaker 2: up in that game, and and I went through the
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Speaker 2: exercise and I'm like, oh man, this is pretty fascinating
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Speaker 2: to go back and wrote right down to have what
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Speaker 2: you wrote down as you were going through that game.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much we'll get through this,
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Speaker 2: but I think there's some interesting points to make from
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Speaker 2: this little exercise that I did, and I'm going to
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Speaker 2: start with right off the bat. The first thing I'll
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Speaker 2: start with, and this is probably what I should edit out,
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Speaker 2: but I wrote skirmish injury measurement. No yep, injury Kevin Dotson. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so that wasn't like back to back. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: just me reacting as time is going back. Just look
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Speaker 2: like an injury garden variety football injury to an offensive
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Speaker 2: lineman caught up in the fray, but not so fast.
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Speaker 2: Dotson's still very angry with Derek Hall, claiming publicly that
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Speaker 2: it was a dirty play numerous times. So this is
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Speaker 2: gonna be the first time they faced each other since that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's more on the line than just some
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Speaker 2: personal grudge match against the guy that you thought injured you, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: injured you intentionally. There's more at play. You don't You're
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Speaker 2: not gonna get in a fight, get kicked out of
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Speaker 2: the game, or get fifteen yards. It's not probably gonna
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Speaker 2: show up in this game. But nonetheless, this is the
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Speaker 2: first time that they're facing each other since that time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he said he he ended up saying in
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Speaker 5: a you know, meeting with the media afterwards, like, yeah,
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do anything about it, but we'll see
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Speaker 5: him again that So I don't think that means he's
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Speaker 5: gonna find him, you know, outside of the hotel. I
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Speaker 5: don't think it means anything. I think it means on
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Speaker 5: the football field, where it's legal to smash each other,
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Speaker 5: he's going to try his best to He.
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Speaker 2: Would love nothing more than to smash him.
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and get away with it and try to
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Speaker 5: do it within the rules of the game so he
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Speaker 5: doesn't get penalized.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, something to keep an eye on. I suppose. Then
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Speaker 2: Seahawks are up seven to three, start a second quarter.
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Speaker 2: Pooka Nakou had already had four catches seventy four yards
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Speaker 2: in the game, and I wrote down, why is Nikua
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Speaker 2: consistently open? And then all of a sudden, Nikua is
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Speaker 2: open again. Now Stafford missed him. It was an overthrow,
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Speaker 2: but it was a wide open Nakua went over his head.
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Speaker 2: Would have been a huge play. And so already I'm like,
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Speaker 2: why is Nikula consistently open? Against our defense, and they
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Speaker 2: never did cover him. He ended up with twelve catches,
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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five yards, and two touchdowns that day.
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Speaker 2: You want to talk about an outlier to this season.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Nikua is that good or if
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks were just off their game that much in
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Speaker 2: that contest. But it wasn't just Nikua making every catch
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Speaker 2: Stafford was thrown to them. Obviously, I felt like, why
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Speaker 2: is their best receiver? We know he's their best receiver.
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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that he's their best How is he getting
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Speaker 2: open so consistently wide open against this defense we love
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Speaker 2: and admire so much here in Seattle.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't, Yeah, I don't think. I think
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Speaker 5: that is a Sean McVay thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I mean, Pooka Nku is great, and obviously he's picking
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Speaker 5: up what Sean McVay is putting down. And then he
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Speaker 5: has the trust of Matthew Stafford to where he's going
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Speaker 5: to look at. He's going to look to him, and
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Speaker 5: regardless of how open he is, he believes that he'll
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Speaker 5: come down with the ball even if he's covered. But
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Speaker 5: he's opened a ton. That's a Sean McVay thing.
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Speaker 2: To me twelve forty five in the second quarter, I
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Speaker 2: wrote field goal good nevous with an inn. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: it's nevus. Oh yeah, yeah, I wrote it with an
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Speaker 2: In a second quarter midway, I wrote down LA two
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Speaker 2: hundred and six yards to seventy six. And that was
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Speaker 2: as the Rams were finishing off a touchdown drive to
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Speaker 2: take a thirteen to seven lead at halftime, and I
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Speaker 2: wrote down Rams dominating up front. And then I added
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Speaker 2: one word stunningly because when you think about it, I mean,
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Speaker 2: what have we probably highlighted more than anything else about
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Speaker 2: why the Seahawks are good this year? That front four,
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Speaker 2: and yet they were getting dominated in that game by
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Speaker 2: the Rams front four in that contest, even without a
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Speaker 2: starter in Kevin Dotson. At least that's how it felt
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Speaker 2: to me in the moment.
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Speaker 5: Well it was. I mean there's no part about how.
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 5: The way in which the game ended up made it
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Speaker 5: feel far better. The way in which that game went
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Speaker 5: for the first three plus quarters was absolute dominance. By
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Speaker 5: the story that is the Sean McVay versus Mike McDonald,
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Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it. I mean, they scored on
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Speaker 5: six straight possessions at one point during the game, and
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Speaker 5: then when they stopped them all, they totally stopped it.
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Speaker 2: Interesting to say that we'll get to that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Third quarter, Seattle's actually up fourteen to thirteen because of
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Speaker 2: a Ken Walker touchdown run Stafford Dodges pressure deep to Smith.
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Speaker 2: I wrote plus forty eight yards touchdown and then added
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Speaker 2: wide open how because we're just not used to seeing that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're not used to seeing teams scheme wide open wide receivers,
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Speaker 2: and we've seen it two times this year Tampa Bay
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Speaker 2: and the second Rams game. I'm just gonna trust that
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Speaker 2: those are outliers, that that's just not gonna happen this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it happens once or twice, but not consistently like
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Speaker 2: it did in that game where you're falling behind eight
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Speaker 2: thirty seven. Third quarter, I wrote thirty six yard field
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Speaker 2: goal good Beavis with a bow. Yeah, I guess I
16:18
Speaker 2: couldn't see the back of his jersey. And I never
16:20
Speaker 2: heard of that chunky kicker before. For some reason, I
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Speaker 2: didn't have that one in the memory bank. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: is bicker kicker? Is he saying Nevas or Beavis? And
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Speaker 2: it turns out it's mevs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: With an m thicker kicker.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, mevus and butt Head is the kicker punter compition.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Rams it sounds right.
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Speaker 2: Seven minutes third quarter, Darnald interception Wallace down to the
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Speaker 2: one yard line. I wrote bad throw. Then I wrote
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Speaker 2: where is Walker? Because that's the game where Walker started
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Speaker 2: to run like we saw him kind of get showcased,
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Speaker 2: and yet Kubiak kept sticking with the rote Haitian with
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Speaker 2: sharbon Ay. Now Walker had the last possession sharbon Ay's turn.
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Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about it. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: really like Zach Charbonay, but man, I just want Ken
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Speaker 2: Walker to be the running back and I want him
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Speaker 2: to get every care So if he's on a roll,
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Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, as much as I'd like for
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Speaker 2: Zak Charbonay to be on the field on Sunday, at
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Speaker 2: least I at least him being out. I don't have
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Speaker 2: to worry about Clint Kobiak and Mike McDonald taking out
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Speaker 2: a red hot running back. It's the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: We're not saving him for anything else. Who cares about
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Speaker 2: free agency? Right now? Give him the damn ball and
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Speaker 2: we don't have to worry that if he's hot, he's
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Speaker 2: going to be taken out to rest him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm with you. You don't have to worry
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Speaker 5: about that now because there is no they're not going
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Speaker 5: to give Whoever is going to try to fill that role,
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Speaker 5: he's not going to have the same role. But then again,
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Speaker 5: that role has worked out pretty well as of late,
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Speaker 5: with him getting the ball down on the goal line
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Speaker 5: with the twelve touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: He guess all right, we got Rams twenty three, Seahawks
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Speaker 2: fourteen at this point end of the third, I wrote
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Speaker 2: to Bryant injury. So that's when Kobe Bryant went down.
17:59
Speaker 2: He's and now he is. He back. He led the
18:02
Speaker 2: team in snaps Saturday. That's how back Kobe Bryant is.
18:05
Speaker 2: That's a great addition for the team. Eleven minutes fourth quarter,
18:09
Speaker 2: Donald interception Kobe Turner on third and goal from the six.
18:12
Speaker 2: Remember we got denied points right then and there and
18:15
Speaker 2: still came back and won this game. But I did
18:18
Speaker 2: literally right. Maybe he swept up in the emotion. Okay,
18:22
Speaker 2: Donald may have a RAMS issue, even though I don't
18:27
Speaker 2: feel like that right now. I don't feel like that today,
18:30
Speaker 2: and I've been preaching about it all week long. I
18:32
Speaker 2: did in the moment out of frustration. That's fair, you know,
18:36
Speaker 2: giving away points, pulling a Geno Smith third and goal
18:39
Speaker 2: from the six. I wrote down, all right, maybe I
18:41
Speaker 2: got to admit to this, maybe Donald does have a
18:43
Speaker 2: RAMS issue.
18:44
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, he's six interceptions two games is not
18:48
Speaker 5: something that you just get to overlook. But you also
18:50
Speaker 5: do have to look at it with the grain of salt,
18:52
Speaker 5: where it's it is just two games and he has
18:55
Speaker 5: ended up winning one of them and out playing him
18:58
Speaker 5: in the other one.
18:59
Speaker 2: Thirty to four team. The Rams were already up when
19:01
Speaker 2: that happened, and then all of a sudden something started
19:04
Speaker 2: to occur. Next Rams possession, they were stopped three and out.
19:08
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. Eight minutes left fourth quarter, Shaheed
19:11
Speaker 2: punt return touchdown. So again Shaheed provides the spark Saturday.
19:15
Speaker 2: He provided the spark in this game. If you remember
19:18
Speaker 2: two point try good, it was thirty to twenty two
19:20
Speaker 2: at that point. Then Tyrese Knight for the second time,
19:23
Speaker 2: a huge pop on special teams on the ensuing kickoff,
19:27
Speaker 2: So that happened on two straight kickoffs. So see what
19:30
Speaker 2: we're getting at. See the momentum that started to be built.
19:32
Speaker 2: Even though Sam doesn't have the good day, what do
19:34
Speaker 2: we have going here? We've got special teams contributions both
19:37
Speaker 2: on coverage and on return. And then the next thing,
19:42
Speaker 2: I wrote down three and out in all caps, chance
19:45
Speaker 2: to tie all the momentum in the world. Shaheed a
19:49
Speaker 2: thirty one in yard end a round, Darnold a twenty
19:51
Speaker 2: six yard touchdown pass to Barner, two point try successful,
19:55
Speaker 2: to which I wrote, craziest two point conversion ever. Holy
19:59
Speaker 2: f dash k exclamation mark. Rams thirty, Seahawks thirty. So
20:05
Speaker 2: that was the completion of the comeback next possession, and
20:09
Speaker 2: we'll close with this third three and out in a row.
20:13
Speaker 2: So I think that is something that got lost in
20:18
Speaker 2: that game. We gave up five hundred and eighty one
20:21
Speaker 2: total yards to McVeigh and Stafford and Nakua, and the
20:24
Speaker 2: Rams gave up an unlikely thirty seven points, came back
20:29
Speaker 2: in one thirty seven, and there were contributions from everywhere.
20:32
Speaker 2: Donald ended up making some key throws, Walker had some
20:35
Speaker 2: explosive runs. Obviously Shaheed had had the turnaround moment in
20:41
Speaker 2: the game, but when you give up that many points,
20:44
Speaker 2: you don't typically give credit to the defense. They had
20:47
Speaker 2: three straight third and outs in the second half in
20:52
Speaker 2: that game they were a down at one point, what
20:55
Speaker 2: thirty to fourteen, they were down sixteen points, But in
20:59
Speaker 2: the second half, even though the Stafford and the cool
21:02
Speaker 2: lit them up, they had three straight three and outs
21:05
Speaker 2: against that offense on a night they were on fire.
21:08
Speaker 2: And that as much as anything, helps you come back
21:12
Speaker 2: from sixteen points down in the second half. So the
21:14
Speaker 2: defense didn't do nothing that day. The defense, really, when
21:18
Speaker 2: it mattered most, got you the ball back so you
21:20
Speaker 2: could complete the comeback.
21:22
Speaker 5: Yeh, I'm with you. They did exactly that. There's a
21:24
Speaker 5: part of me while I was watching that game, the
21:27
Speaker 5: first three and out, before the bang bang three and out,
21:31
Speaker 5: and then it's the punt return, and I'm thinking myself,
21:33
Speaker 5: you better not let off the gas rams. You better
21:36
Speaker 5: not because at thirty to fourteen, I think they did
21:39
Speaker 5: have a tendency of like, okay, we kind of got this,
21:41
Speaker 5: especially thirty to fourteen, and then you intercept the ball,
21:44
Speaker 5: stopping them from stopping the Seahawks from going down and
21:47
Speaker 5: getting points right there, and then that's where the first
21:50
Speaker 5: three and out the punt return happens. And it to me,
21:53
Speaker 5: it was like if you took the foot off the
21:55
Speaker 5: gas a little bit, you are allowing them to gain
21:57
Speaker 5: some momentum. The kick return did it, and then the
21:59
Speaker 5: punt cut the coverage on the next one, I mean
22:01
Speaker 5: the defense did it. I think there was an adjustment
22:03
Speaker 5: but I think there's a part of it also that
22:05
Speaker 5: was thirty to fourteen. Everything's going on our way, and
22:09
Speaker 5: I think they let up a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, anyway, fascinating thing. Maybe we'll do that more.
22:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that all right?
22:15
Speaker 2: Coming up next the Share Coacher Reboard. Boy, I'm having
22:19
Speaker 2: a hard time with that. Share Coacher Reboard Updates on
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Speaker 2: NFL Coaching News Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there would have been too much share.
22:29
Speaker 2: We would like to introduce a brand new head coach.
22:31
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Share and it's just a guy whose
22:34
Speaker 2: name is Cher.
22:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
22:36
Speaker 2: And then former defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens Share Yeah.
22:39
Speaker 5: Would you have liked the how we play when we
22:42
Speaker 5: do Mike McDonald audio segments? For example, when we play
22:45
Speaker 5: a little Mike McDonald coming in, would you like to
22:48
Speaker 5: have share played?
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Speaker 2: No?
22:50
Speaker 5: No, that's your reason. I mean not wanting it to
22:52
Speaker 5: be shared.
22:53
Speaker 4: If if Sharon Moore would have kept coaching and not
22:58
Speaker 4: screwed everything up at Michigan, and we had a segment
23:01
Speaker 4: about how great of a coach he was, I play share.
23:05
Speaker 2: You'd play share, Sharon, Oh oh? I thought, you're right.
23:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I only have one song.
23:12
Speaker 2: It's time for your share coachery board. Yes, the latest
23:16
Speaker 2: coaching information that we pass along not on the daily,
23:20
Speaker 2: but nonetheless there's always stuff fire in this time of
23:25
Speaker 2: the year. I'll start with the Buffalo Bills. Terry Pagoula,
23:29
Speaker 2: who is the owner of the Buffalo Bills, and from
23:32
Speaker 2: what I understand, he's really like it's he and his
23:34
Speaker 2: wife together, and the rumor is that she's the brains
23:38
Speaker 2: behind the operation. But she's sick right now, so she
23:41
Speaker 2: hasn't been nearly as public and out front with everything.
23:44
Speaker 2: Hey hear this past year it's been more him. Uh
23:47
Speaker 2: And then yesterday he removed all doubt. It's clear that
23:50
Speaker 2: he has not done the brains behind the operation. He
23:54
Speaker 2: had a really tough press conference that made the fan
23:59
Speaker 2: base saying got every talking head in America screaming at him.
24:04
Speaker 2: Kind of sounded like he's involving himself and stuff that
24:08
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's doing or talking about.
24:11
Speaker 6: Uh.
24:12
Speaker 2: And then even through some of their current players on
24:15
Speaker 2: the roster under the bus for having failed the team.
24:19
Speaker 2: And it wasn't Brandon Bean's fault that they're still on
24:22
Speaker 2: the roster. It was the coach's fault that he's still
24:25
Speaker 2: on the roster. And he's still on the roster. So
24:28
Speaker 2: it was it was not a great one of those
24:31
Speaker 2: time capsule moments for owners in the National Football League yesterday.
24:35
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think he basically whatever he was
24:38
Speaker 5: reading about getting rid of Sean McDermott with some people
24:41
Speaker 5: were happy about Bill's fans and some were not. And
24:44
Speaker 5: I think it's a good conversation, a debate if you will,
24:47
Speaker 5: about whether or not he should have been there, or
24:49
Speaker 5: you think you need a new voice. But then there's
24:52
Speaker 5: been like, well why not get rid of being if
24:55
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, if if part of this you
24:58
Speaker 5: need new leadership, then why don't you just make a
25:00
Speaker 5: clean sweet, get a new GM, get a new head coach,
25:03
Speaker 5: change a couple of things that you you think are
25:05
Speaker 5: going to certainly put you into the direction to win
25:08
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl At least getting one, and yet he
25:12
Speaker 5: somehow feels like he has to defend his GM by
25:17
Speaker 5: throwing a current player Coleman under the bus of like, well,
25:21
Speaker 5: the coaching staff wanted him, not him. It's like, what
25:25
Speaker 5: do you talk? Why are you he's on your team? Still?
25:28
Speaker 5: You know that he did not come off very well
25:30
Speaker 5: the way in which he did it. And it's not
25:31
Speaker 5: going to even if you, as a new as the
25:34
Speaker 5: owner didn't want him, and your new head coach who
25:38
Speaker 5: you're going to sign, you're gonna be like, hey, we're
25:39
Speaker 5: not going to get rid of him, right, you're on
25:41
Speaker 5: the same page. Why would you throw him under the
25:43
Speaker 5: bus and just take tank his value that he has
25:46
Speaker 5: in a trade. I don't understand why he would say anything.
25:49
Speaker 5: He says for throwing him under the bus.
25:51
Speaker 4: And that is like half apology and he's like, no,
25:53
Speaker 4: it wasn't Sean McDermott that wanted him, it was other coaches,
25:57
Speaker 4: Like I want to make sure that Sean McDermott still
25:59
Speaker 4: can like it.
26:01
Speaker 2: Really does highlight and I just want everybody to know this.
26:04
Speaker 2: These owners are good at making money or spending money.
26:08
Speaker 2: Maybe they got most of them got it from an inheritance.
26:11
Speaker 2: Most of it was their husband or their dad or
26:13
Speaker 2: in our case, the brother, and they really don't know
26:15
Speaker 2: anything about football, right and I have you know, And
26:19
Speaker 2: I think that's the case more often than not. The
26:23
Speaker 2: best owners are the ones that do their homework, do
26:27
Speaker 2: their research, hire good people, and then just let them
26:30
Speaker 2: do their thing. And then they do have the hammer
26:32
Speaker 2: to say I'm not going to spend that or I'm
26:34
Speaker 2: not going to do that. But most owners in professional
26:37
Speaker 2: sports don't know a damn thing, and yet they have
26:39
Speaker 2: runaway egos because they're worth a billion dollars and so
26:43
Speaker 2: they want to put their hands on it. Most of
26:46
Speaker 2: them that stay in the shadows are doing it for
26:48
Speaker 2: a reason. They're being protected. He came out, put himself
26:51
Speaker 2: right out there in the middle of this and made
26:54
Speaker 2: it far worse.
26:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone should have turned the microphone off, just.
26:57
Speaker 2: Far worse of the situation. And look, I heard vic
27:01
Speaker 2: Carucci talking about this. He's been covering the Buffalo Bills
27:04
Speaker 2: for years and this is a great point too. He said,
27:07
Speaker 2: you got to keep in mind that the general manager
27:11
Speaker 2: is with the owner far more than the head coach.
27:14
Speaker 2: The head coaches burning midnight oil, breaking down film coaching teaching,
27:21
Speaker 2: you know, with his coaching staff preparing. Meanwhile, the general
27:25
Speaker 2: manager plays buddy buddy with the owner almost every day.
27:28
Speaker 2: They play footsie under the table. Frankly, it's how John
27:32
Speaker 2: became more powerful than Pete.
27:35
Speaker 5: Good thing he did, but it's.
27:37
Speaker 2: How it's kind of how that power structure, you know,
27:40
Speaker 2: it developed. Even during the games, Like the coach is
27:44
Speaker 2: coaching the game, general manager tends to sit in the
27:48
Speaker 2: box and if things are going the wrong way, whispers
27:52
Speaker 2: in his ear, why it's gone the wrong way, not
27:54
Speaker 2: my fault. I never wanted this guy. That happens a lot.
27:58
Speaker 2: So the general manager tends to be the better friend
28:01
Speaker 2: of the owner. Whether it's legitimate or whether he's just
28:05
Speaker 2: a big brown noser, I don't know. But the general
28:07
Speaker 2: manager tends to be the bigger friend of the owner.
28:10
Speaker 2: And so when you sit there and you wonder, why
28:13
Speaker 2: did he side with Brandon Bean just like some more
28:16
Speaker 2: spend more time with him.
28:17
Speaker 5: Well, billionaires are billionaires because they, like you said, if
28:20
Speaker 5: usually they hire somebody that is capable of doing something
28:23
Speaker 5: that they're incapable of doing, and then they let them
28:26
Speaker 5: do it. Well, the GM is the first person kind
28:30
Speaker 5: of hired I mean presidents, and there's other people, but
28:32
Speaker 5: the GM is the first monident. Yeah he did, just briefly,
28:35
Speaker 5: but he's the guy like you're hiring him to. Then
28:39
Speaker 5: you you bring in the people, and you're gonna have
28:42
Speaker 5: first say in the coach that you want to be
28:45
Speaker 5: able to cook with the ingredients that you buy or
28:47
Speaker 5: you draft, and so it's kind of that, you know,
28:51
Speaker 5: they the billionaire owner doesn't want to admit that I
28:54
Speaker 5: made the wrong decision when he can say you shouldn't
28:58
Speaker 5: have hired that head coach right to him. So it's
29:00
Speaker 5: like he can reprimand somebody before the blame actually that
29:04
Speaker 5: you know they say that s you know trickles downhill. Well,
29:07
Speaker 5: it's really hard for that ask to trickle all the
29:09
Speaker 5: way back up to the owner because there's from the players,
29:13
Speaker 5: it's to the offensive coordinator, the coordinators, to the head coach,
29:16
Speaker 5: to the GM, and then it finally gets to him.
29:19
Speaker 5: And the owner basically has veto power to cut everybody
29:21
Speaker 5: off at some point in time before it gets back
29:23
Speaker 5: to him, and the GM is that final piece, I think,
29:26
Speaker 5: or the final wall between that insulates him from any
29:30
Speaker 5: of the bad outcome that is or bestowed upon the organization.
29:35
Speaker 2: The other information I'll pass along on the Shark Coachery
29:38
Speaker 2: board is that, and I'm always I'm doing this for
29:40
Speaker 2: a reason. It's not that big of a deal, but
29:43
Speaker 2: Zach Robinson is now the new offensive coordinator of the
29:46
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This marks Baker Mayfield's ninth different offensive
29:53
Speaker 2: coordinator in his career. Baker Mayfield's career is eight seasons long. Wow,
30:00
Speaker 2: he's had more offensive coordinator than years, coordinators than years
30:05
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Crazy, and you wonder why
30:10
Speaker 2: he's add an up and down career, right, Well, that's
30:14
Speaker 2: pretty impressive that he's been as good as he's been.
30:17
Speaker 2: Seems like he gets a good one and then a
30:19
Speaker 2: bad one, then a good one and then a bad one.
30:21
Speaker 2: And that absolutely has every reason for why Baker Mayfield's
30:26
Speaker 2: season went well or didn't go well, for sure contributing.
30:29
Speaker 2: If he's good, then he loses his offensive coordinator to
30:32
Speaker 2: a head coaching job. If he's bad, the guy gets
30:34
Speaker 2: fired and he has to start all over with somebody else.
30:37
Speaker 2: Nine o seas in eight NFL seasons for Baker Mayfield.
30:41
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, we do have the twelve
30:43
Speaker 2: man round Table coming your way at eight o'clock. Coming
30:45
Speaker 2: up next, a central figure in this game might not
30:50
Speaker 2: be available to one of these teams. Coming up on
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Speaker 2: Sunday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM, it's Hugh mellon,
30:57
Speaker 2: Greg Bell coming your way at eight o'clock. Twelfth Man
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Speaker 2: round Table. Not just your run of the Middle twelfth
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Speaker 2: Man Roundtable, this is NFC Conference Championship Game twelfth Man
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Speaker 2: round Table with our QB one and also our Seahawks insider,
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Speaker 2: one of them playing through pain to deliver you the
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Speaker 2: top analysis here in the community.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. He rabbed some dirt on it. I hope. Yeah,
31:17
Speaker 5: that usually helps you, say butter, maybe some butter and
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Speaker 5: dirt now either one.
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Speaker 3: Butter would help me more. I think I just like
31:25
Speaker 3: butter better.
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Speaker 2: Just feels butter is wonderful. Yeah, so Greg Bel, Hugh Mellon,
31:30
Speaker 2: they'll break it down for you. Coming up with the
31:32
Speaker 2: twelfth Man Roundtable. We also have your powerplay cash Word
31:36
Speaker 2: as well, if you've been waiting for that all day
31:38
Speaker 2: long at eight o'clock. One player that is really important
31:43
Speaker 2: to the Los Angeles Rams, and I don't think it's
31:46
Speaker 2: been discussed enough and might not be available to the Rams.
31:49
Speaker 2: It's kind of trending like he's going to be available,
31:52
Speaker 2: But even Sean McVay admitted yesterday, we don't know to
31:55
Speaker 2: what degree he's going to be available. We don't know
31:57
Speaker 2: how effective he's going to be. Young has an injury,
32:02
Speaker 2: and you when you think of the Rams, if this
32:04
Speaker 2: was family feud top seven answers on the board, I'm
32:07
Speaker 2: not sure that a family's gonna even mention the name
32:11
Speaker 2: Byron Young. If they were asked, name me a present
32:14
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams player, you know it's gonna be Stafford
32:17
Speaker 2: and Nakua and you know Kyron, Kyron Williams, anybody who
32:22
Speaker 2: plays fantasy, or you know Dvante Adams, Jared Verse. Those
32:28
Speaker 2: are the names probably gonna come up. But Byron Young
32:31
Speaker 2: leads the team in sacks with twelve, that's eighth best
32:34
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. He is ninth, excuse me,
32:39
Speaker 2: thirteenth in the NFL and pressures this year. And of
32:43
Speaker 2: course PFF will tell you that pressures is a more
32:47
Speaker 2: valuable stat to us than sacks is to us because
32:51
Speaker 2: it kind of represents that you are consistently getting your
32:55
Speaker 2: job done, whether the quarterback gets rid of the football
32:57
Speaker 2: or not. PFF rates the ninth best edge player in
33:02
Speaker 2: the entire National Football League, and so this young player
33:06
Speaker 2: Byron Young is not near one hundred percent. He might play,
33:11
Speaker 2: but then again, doesn't look like he's going to be
33:14
Speaker 2: the typical guy. And this is a team, by the way,
33:16
Speaker 2: that has sacked Sam Donald thirteen times the last three
33:20
Speaker 2: times they've played him combined, so they give Sam Donald fits.
33:25
Speaker 2: And I think it's quite the feather in the cap
33:27
Speaker 2: for the offense that if their best pass rusher is
33:30
Speaker 2: going to be limited on Sunday.
33:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously you want to have as many
33:34
Speaker 5: guys as possible getting you know, pin in their ears
33:37
Speaker 5: back and trying to get after the quarterback. And if
33:39
Speaker 5: the guy that's done at the best for the year
33:42
Speaker 5: opponent is going to be limited, at least he's going
33:45
Speaker 5: to play, is what it sounds like. But I don't
33:48
Speaker 5: know when the injury to his knee happened. It must
33:51
Speaker 5: have been somewhere, you know, middle of the game, because
33:54
Speaker 5: he only played in thirty five of the potential eighty
33:56
Speaker 5: one snaps last week, so I would imagine that that
34:00
Speaker 5: was you know, we got most of those thirty five's
34:03
Speaker 5: earlier in the game, hurt his knee and then missed
34:06
Speaker 5: majority of the rest of the time. That said, yeah,
34:09
Speaker 5: he's going to have a week to be able to
34:11
Speaker 5: heal up, but yeah he's I would be willing to
34:14
Speaker 5: bet that they're not going to be able to run
34:15
Speaker 5: him out there one hundred percent of the defensive snaps,
34:17
Speaker 5: which is always good news if you don't have that
34:19
Speaker 5: guy coming after you.
34:20
Speaker 4: I feel like I want to say, oh, that's great
34:22
Speaker 4: news for us, But I also feel like the Rams
34:23
Speaker 4: are just there's I mean, they're so good and Sean
34:27
Speaker 4: McVay now has time to plan for him not being there.
34:29
Speaker 3: How beneficial will it be, I don't know.
34:31
Speaker 2: Doesn't change though that you'd rather not have Byron if
34:36
Speaker 2: it's all about I mean correct, I'm one of those
34:38
Speaker 2: guys like, no, I want your best, I want you
34:40
Speaker 2: at your best.
34:41
Speaker 3: Whatever advance.
34:41
Speaker 2: I'm not on the field, you know, I'm just a fan.
34:44
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of sports. But certainly your chances improve,
34:48
Speaker 2: I don't know how much, but improve. If their best
34:51
Speaker 2: pass rusher is gimpy heading into this game, we'll take that.
34:54
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want Leonard Williams to be gimpy heading into
34:57
Speaker 2: this game. Right exactly.
34:58
Speaker 5: I mean I think a lot of rams would be
35:00
Speaker 5: like a Okay, if any one of the number of
35:03
Speaker 5: guys on the defensive front or your pass rushers came
35:06
Speaker 5: up lame or missed practice this week, all right, that's fine.
35:09
Speaker 5: We'll take any advantage we can get to get to
35:11
Speaker 5: Zoom Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Also, shame on the Brian Russell because because of you,
35:16
Speaker 2: because of the way you spell your name with the
35:18
Speaker 2: b R yo in the former NBA player. Now, every
35:22
Speaker 2: time I see a Byron or a Brian, I always
35:24
Speaker 2: worry if I have it right or wrong when I
35:26
Speaker 2: call him Byron or Brian.
35:28
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that, called b b Russell.
35:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have to worry about that. Byron was
35:36
Speaker 2: always y R yeah, and Brian was always I an Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then he screwed it up by being b R
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Speaker 2: yo in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that does make it tricky.
35:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks a lot, Russell a hole, yeah, Hugh and Greg. Next,
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