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- 0:00Two armies are camped on two hillsides with a valley between them, and for forty
- 0:06days a champion has come out, morning and evening, to defy Israel.
- 0:11Then a young man who was only sent to bring his brothers some bread says he will
- 0:17go.
- 0:18Behind the Bible Verse. This is made with the assistance of AI.
- 0:24Our reading is from the first book of Samuel, chapter seventeen, verses
- 0:29thirty-two to fifty, in the World English Bible, British Edition.
- 0:36David said to Saul, “Let no man’s heart fail because of him.
- 0:41Your servant will go and fight with this Philistine.”
- 0:46Saul said to David, “You are not able to go against this Philistine to fight with
- 0:51him; for you are but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.”
- 0:57David said to Saul, “Your servant was keeping his father’s sheep; and when a
- 1:02lion or a bear came and took a lamb out of the flock, I went out after him, struck
- 1:08him, and rescued it out of his mouth. When he arose against me, I caught him by his
- 1:14beard, struck him, and killed him. Your servant struck both the lion and the bear.
- 1:20This uncircumcised Philistine shall be as one of them, since he has defied the
- 1:26armies of the living God.” David said, “The LORD, who delivered me out of the paw
- 1:33of the lion and out of the paw of the bear, will deliver me out of the hand of
- 1:38this Philistine.”
- 1:40Saul said to David, “Go! The LORD will be with you.”
- 1:45Saul dressed David with his clothing. He put a helmet of bronze on his head, and he
- 1:52clad him with a coat of mail. David strapped his sword on his clothing and he
- 1:58tried to move, for he had not tested it. David said to Saul, “I can’t go with
- 2:03these, for I have not tested them.” Then David took them off.
- 2:09He took his staff in his hand, and chose for himself five smooth stones out of the
- 2:15brook, and put them in the pouch of his shepherd’s bag which he had.
- 2:20His sling was in his hand; and he came near to the Philistine.
- 2:25The Philistine walked and came near to David; and the man who bore the shield
- 2:30went before him. When the Philistine looked around and saw David, he disdained
- 2:36him; for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and had a good looking face.
- 2:41The Philistine said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come to me with sticks?”
- 2:47The Philistine cursed David by his gods. The Philistine said to David, “Come to me,
- 2:54and I will give your flesh to the birds of the sky and to the animals of the field.”
- 3:01Then David said to the Philistine, “You come to me with a sword, with a spear, and
- 3:07with a javelin; but I come to you in the name of the LORD of Armies, the God of the
- 3:13armies of Israel, whom you have defied. Today, the LORD will deliver you into my
- 3:19hand. I will strike you and take your head from off you.
- 3:23I will give the dead bodies of the army of the Philistines today to the birds of the
- 3:29sky and to the wild animals of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is
- 3:35a God in Israel, and that all this assembly may know that the LORD doesn’t
- 3:40save with sword and spear; for the battle is the LORD’s, and he will give you into
- 3:46our hand.”
- 3:48When the Philistine arose, and walked and came near to meet David, David hurried and
- 3:54ran towards the army to meet the Philistine. David put his hand in his bag,
- 4:00took a stone and slung it, and struck the Philistine in his forehead.
- 4:05The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell on his face to the earth.
- 4:10So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and struck
- 4:16the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand.
- 4:23So that's the scene most of us met as children. Let's walk back to how it
- 4:28starts, look closely at what the chapter actually says about the fight, and then at
- 4:34a few places where the old manuscripts don't quite agree with each other.
- 4:40First, the map. The chapter opens with the Philistine army camped between two towns
- 4:47called Socoh and Azekah, and Saul's army in the valley of Elah.
- 4:52Elah is usually translated as terebinth, a kind of tree, so this is the valley of the
- 4:58terebinth: a long, shallow valley in the low hills of the Shephelah.
- 5:04The writer gives us the layout in one plain sentence.
- 5:09The Philistines on a mountain on one side, Israel on a mountain on the other, and a
- 5:15valley between them.
- 5:17The Philistines are Israel's great rivals through these books.
- 5:22They held a group of five cities, and Goliath comes from one of them, Gath.
- 5:28Archaeologists identify Gath with a large site called Tell es-Safi, and it has
- 5:35been excavated for many seasons. We'll come back to it at the end.
- 5:41Now the champion. Goliath of Gath comes out and stands between the lines, and the
- 5:47writer lingers on his equipment. A bronze helmet. A coat of mail weighing five
- 5:54thousand shekels, which the translation's own footnote puts at about fifty
- 5:59kilograms. Bronze armour on his legs, a javelin across his shoulders, and a spear
- 6:06with a shaft like a weaver's beam and an iron head of six hundred shekels, about
- 6:12six kilograms. Then he makes his offer. Choose one man to come down and fight me.
- 6:18If he kills me, we'll be your servants. If I kill him, you'll be ours.
- 6:24And when Saul and all Israel heard those words, the text says, they were dismayed
- 6:30and greatly afraid. This goes on morning and evening for forty days.
- 6:37How tall was he? Here the manuscripts disagree, and it's worth knowing why.
- 6:43The standard Hebrew text, the one behind most English Bibles, gives six cubits and
- 6:49a span. A cubit is roughly the length of a forearm, about forty-six centimetres, so
- 6:55that comes to about nine feet nine, close to three metres.
- 7:00But a copy of Samuel found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, from the late first century
- 7:06before Christ, gives four cubits and a span. So do the ancient Greek translation
- 7:13known as the Septuagint, and the first-century Jewish historian Josephus.
- 7:19That's about six feet nine, a little over two metres.
- 7:23Still a very big man in any army, but not a giant from a fairy tale.
- 7:29Many scholars think the smaller number is the earlier one and the bigger number grew
- 7:35as the text was copied, though not all agree.
- 7:39Into this comes David. He's the youngest of Jesse's eight sons, from Bethlehem, and
- 7:45he hasn't come to fight. His father sends him down with an ephah of parched grain
- 7:51and ten loaves for his brothers, ten cheeses for their commander, and orders to
- 7:57bring back news. He arrives just as the army is shouting for battle, hears the
- 8:03challenge for himself, and starts asking what will be done for the man who kills
- 8:09this Philistine, and who this man is, to defy the armies of the living God.
- 8:14His oldest brother Eliab hears him and is furious.
- 8:19Why have you come down here, he asks, and who did you leave those few sheep with?
- 8:25Then comes the scene in our reading. David tells Saul he has fought off a lion and a
- 8:31bear to protect his father's flock, and he sums up his case in one line: the LORD who
- 8:37delivered him from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will deliver him from
- 8:43this Philistine. Saul tries to dress him in his own armour and helmet, and David
- 8:49tries to move in it. He hasn't tested it, he says, and he takes it all off.
- 8:55He goes down with his staff, his sling, and five smooth stones from the brook.
- 9:02It's easy to picture a boy with a toy against a soldier.
- 9:07In fact, shepherds used the sling to keep animals off a flock, and armies used it in
- 9:13war. The book of Judges, describing the army of the tribe of Benjamin, mentions
- 9:19seven hundred chosen left-handed men, every one of whom "could sling a stone at
- 9:25a hair and not miss." So when David chooses the sling over Saul's armour, he
- 9:30isn't choosing to go unarmed. Goliath doesn't see it that way.
- 9:36He sees a ruddy, good-looking youth carrying a staff, and asks if he's a dog,
- 9:41to be met with sticks.
- 9:44What David says back is the centre of the chapter as the writer tells it.
- 9:49He doesn't boast about his aim. He says Goliath comes with sword, spear and
- 9:55javelin, but he comes in the name of the LORD of Armies, so that all the earth may
- 10:01know there is a God in Israel, and so that everyone gathered there may know the LORD
- 10:07doesn't save with sword and spear. Then it's over very quickly.
- 10:13One stone, to the forehead, and Goliath falls on his face.
- 10:18The writer adds a detail you might miss: there was no sword in David's hand.
- 10:23In the very next verse, David runs up, draws Goliath's own sword, and finishes
- 10:29the fight with it.
- 10:31Some readers also notice who isn't fighting. Earlier in the same book, Saul
- 10:37is described as standing head and shoulders above everyone in Israel.
- 10:43If anyone was the obvious match for a giant, it was the king.
- 10:48Many scholars read the whole chapter as part of a larger argument running through
- 10:54these books, that Saul is failing as king and David is rising to replace him.
- 11:01The Philistines run, Israel chases them as far as Gath and Ekron, and David keeps
- 11:08Goliath's head and armour. Later in the book, when David is running from Saul, a
- 11:14priest at a place called Nob hands him a sword wrapped in a cloth, "the sword of
- 11:19Goliath the Philistine, whom you killed in the valley of Elah."
- 11:24And when the army comes home from this battle, the women come out singing, "Saul
- 11:30has slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands."
- 11:34Saul is very angry. From that day, the text says, he watched David.
- 11:40Now the untidy parts, because they're in the text and it's fair to say so.
- 11:47The first is in the closing verses of the chapter.
- 11:51After the fight, Saul asks his commander Abner, "whose son is this youth?"
- 11:56and Abner says he can't tell. But in the chapter before, David has already come
- 12:02into Saul's service, playing the harp for him and becoming his armour bearer, and
- 12:08Saul loved him greatly. One verse in our chapter says David went back and forth
- 12:13between Saul and his father's sheep, which some read as smoothing the two together.
- 12:19Many scholars think two accounts of how David came to Saul have been woven into
- 12:25one. And the manuscripts add a clue. The Septuagint has a noticeably shorter form
- 12:32of this chapter, without David bringing food to his brothers and without Saul
- 12:38asking who he is. Scholars differ on whether that shorter version is older,
- 12:43with material added later, or whether the Greek translators trimmed a longer
- 12:49original.
- 12:50The second is a single verse in the second book of Samuel, chapter twenty-one, verse
- 12:57nineteen, in a short list of later battles against the Philistines.
- 13:02In the standard Hebrew text, it says that Elhanan, a man from Bethlehem, killed
- 13:08Goliath the Gittite, whose spear shaft was like a weaver's beam.
- 13:13Our translation reads that verse as Goliath's brother.
- 13:17The first book of Chronicles, telling the same episode, says Elhanan killed Lahmi,
- 13:23the brother of Goliath. So who killed Goliath? Some scholars think one of the
- 13:29two verses was damaged in copying, and many readers follow Chronicles and see two
- 13:36different men. Some have suggested Elhanan was another name for David.
- 13:42Many scholars think Elhanan's victory is the older tradition and that, over time,
- 13:48it came to be told of the more famous David. The text doesn't settle it, and I
- 13:54won't settle it for you.
- 13:57And the third is in the ground at Gath. In 2005, the excavators at Tell es-Safi
- 14:04found a small piece of pottery with seven letters on it, read as two words.
- 14:11It was first suggested that they looked similar to the name Goliath, and that got
- 14:17a lot of attention. It isn't a mention of the Goliath of this chapter, and it
- 14:22doesn't prove anything about him. What it does give us is early writing from the
- 14:28very city this story names as his home.
- 14:32So the height depends on which manuscript you open, the order of events depends on
- 14:38which version you read, and even the name of the man who killed Goliath has more
- 14:44than one answer in the Bible itself. What both forms of the chapter keep is the
- 14:50exchange in the valley: a well-armed man, and a shepherd who says out loud that the
- 14:56battle is the LORD's.
- 14:59So here's a question to sit with, and there's no right answer to it.
- 15:04When have you been handed someone else's armour, help that looked right but didn't
- 15:09fit you, and what did you do with it?
- 15:13Thanks for listening to Behind the Bible Verse. Scripture readings are from the
- 15:19World English Bible, British Edition, which is in the public domain.
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