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THE TESLA EPISODE!! We drive the Model Y and talk about the EV brand · The Driver's Show

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: This feels like brother job interview.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't it tell me one thing you could improve about yourself?
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Many things.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, that'll be a long job interview.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: It's a long list a lot of things, mainly in
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  Speaker 1: the brain. So we're in the nice studios today, Yes,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: the ones that are have all our screens and our
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: silly faces.
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  Speaker 2: I feel lost without the possom urine on the roof
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  Speaker 2: of your other studio.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, those studios are. I don't care if this is public.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long I'm there for. Those studios
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: are on their way out, like not just they're literally
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: going to be I'm pretty sure bulldozed.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of a haunted house, you know how
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  Speaker 2: it's really dark and you can't see anything. Yeah, but
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: then if you did switch the lights on, it would
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  Speaker 2: be way worse than when it's dark. Yes, it reminds
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  Speaker 2: me of that.
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  Speaker 1: It gives me public toilet vibes, like there's just a
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: there's just random puddles there. So I flew down here.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the best flights I've had in
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  Speaker 1: such a long time. It was the sun was out,
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  Speaker 1: it was crisp blue skies, and I'm like watching the
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: sun come over the cliffs, and I looked at and
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  Speaker 1: I thought of you, yes, and I thought, I thought
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  Speaker 1: about the right brothers, and I thought about it, just
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  Speaker 1: the miracle of his flight. And I sat there for
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  Speaker 1: a good twenty five minutes, and I tried so hard,
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  Speaker 1: but I couldn't give a I couldn't. I couldn't give
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  Speaker 1: a fuck about the miracle of flying.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The only miracles I thought about on that flight was
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  Speaker 1: how they managed to charge nine dollars fifty for a muffin.
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  Speaker 1: And if I can also land after this flight, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be a miracle. If I don't get COVID, but you
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: send me.
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  Speaker 2: The picture, I thought, that is so odd. I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen the engine from that perspective. I didn't actually know
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  Speaker 2: there were seats that far back down the plane. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was just for catering.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Row five too, like barely just sort
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  Speaker 1: of edging.
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  Speaker 2: We can't.
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  Speaker 1: God, you're a holy tweety prick. You are officially a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a wing.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Those cheap flights, though, are something else right, Like I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't know they well, okay, let me put this into perspective.
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  Speaker 1: There was a toddler sitting in front of me. Kudos,
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  Speaker 1: I get what. I now get what it's like to
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  Speaker 1: fly with a kid. Right, So, if your kid's crying
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: on a flight, Paul wouldn't tell you this because he
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: sends his kid way up the back with the maid.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sort of sitting next to my own child.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what. What do you feed your kid?
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  Speaker 2: Ah, I'd have to check with the maid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the maid would probably cook up some sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing bra or something. This kid shut himself and
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: judging by that, I'm pretty sure he had a level
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  Speaker 1: three beef indaloo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just off the topic of cars, Some of the
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  Speaker 2: things that come out of children are horrendous, so bad.
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  Speaker 2: The stuff that my daughter pumps out. I just think,
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: what did you? Did you eat? Something that was like
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  Speaker 2: moldian a year older than it was meant to be, or.
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  Speaker 1: Something probably in your house, probably rosa the maid.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, mister Paul, I did not clean up the
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  Speaker 2: covers of this week.
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  Speaker 1: Please. Hey, we thought this would never happen. I thought
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: this would never happen. After's so many episodes of shitting
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  Speaker 1: on Tesla's here we are doing a fully dedicated Tesla episode.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, now, This isn't going to be a Tesla wank
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: fest at Tesla fanboy fest. We're just going to cover
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  Speaker 2: this because they recently announced that Model Why was going
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  Speaker 2: on sale, so we thought now is a good chance
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  Speaker 2: for us to talk about it and for everyn time
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  Speaker 2: understand a bit more about electric vehicles in general.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing I have noticed is there is
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  Speaker 1: an obscene amount of interest in this car. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it is arguably the most requested thing we get. It
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: is tell us more about Tesla's people just have this friggin'
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  Speaker 1: appetite for it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's weird because Tesla famously hasn't spent a cent
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  Speaker 2: on advertising, so they do no marketing, none of that.
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  Speaker 2: So it means that all of this interest is organic
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  Speaker 2: and sprooped by their customers, which I find completely bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: There's not really any other companies that have that, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was getting the press car of this,
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  Speaker 1: it's they don't really even have a PR department.
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  Speaker 2: No, Well, they famously fired all of their PR people globally,
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: so here in Australia, if we have a question, there's
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  Speaker 2: no one to talk to. No one will answer the
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  Speaker 2: question because no one works in PR so.
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  Speaker 1: I will say when I did pick this up, and
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: you can go to your sort of Tesla showroom. They
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  Speaker 1: are incredibly nice there. They are pretty friendly and val answer.
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  Speaker 1: They're pretty knowledgeable on the product that they're selling and
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  Speaker 1: they're putting out there.
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  Speaker 2: And they also it's worth mentioning they don't care if
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  Speaker 2: you don't buy the car. They're actually just very happy
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  Speaker 2: for you to drive it. And it's weird. It's very
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  Speaker 2: different to a normal dealership where you rock up and
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh god, it's a person. Yeah, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to inconvenience you, but I would like
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  Speaker 2: to drive the car, and like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. I went into a Porscha dealership
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  Speaker 1: with a mate of mine the other days.
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  Speaker 2: It's a different story if you went into a Porsa dealership,
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  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't give you a car either. Did you finish?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going home. I've had enough, I've had a gut
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  Speaker 1: for anyway. I wasn't going to buy a Porsche, as
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: much as i'd like to. My mate was was there,
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: legit was. He's a drug dealer. He was willing to
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: drop a whole heap of cash, and he was. He
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: was that pissed off that he couldn't get served. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to push anyway stuff
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  Speaker 1: from so yeah, because like literally no one came up
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  Speaker 1: to him. He looked around, he sort of waived at people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no one would serve him. So he's like, well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not going to this dealership. They don't deserve
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  Speaker 1: my business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just a different way of doing things,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just a much better way of doing things
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion. If you buy the car, you buy
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  Speaker 2: the car. If you don't, you don't. If you crash it,
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  Speaker 2: it's insured, it's another sale. Like who cares? It just
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  Speaker 2: seems on to me that some car companies are so
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: precious about this stuff.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: So the Model Y launched.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's explain what the model is. It's basically an
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  Speaker 2: suv version of the Model three sedan.
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  Speaker 1: Effectively sure so slightly larger in every sort of capacity yep,
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  Speaker 1: what about power outputs? Very much the same, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it mirrors the Model three. So the downside to
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  Speaker 2: that is that it's slower because it weighs more than
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  Speaker 2: the Model three. So you've got a whole lot more,
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: more panels, more room. It just means more weight, so
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  Speaker 2: it is still okay compared to some SUVs in this segment.
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  Speaker 2: So the entry level rewel drive is about two tons,
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  Speaker 2: which is on the heavy side in comparison to a
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  Speaker 2: standard suv, but for an electric suv it's not that bad.
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  Speaker 2: An equivalent Model three is about eighteen hundred kilos. But
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  Speaker 2: then when it comes to the power and the motors,
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  Speaker 2: it's effectively the same. So the entry level is a
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  Speaker 2: reweel drive. Yes, then while it's not available now, it
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  Speaker 2: will become available. They do a long range version, which
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  Speaker 2: is all will do motor, and then they do the
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  Speaker 2: performance version, which is dual motor and all out. And
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  Speaker 2: in terms of performance, the entry level zero to one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and six point nine seconds, so not fast, not slow,
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  Speaker 2: re will drive only midspec is about five seconds for
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  Speaker 2: the long range, and then the performance is under four
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  Speaker 2: second zero to one hundred. It's crazy, it is good.
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  Speaker 1: It's good numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great numbers. But my opinion on this is
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  Speaker 2: when they announced that they were coming to Australia. So
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: the background here is that in November last year I
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  Speaker 2: got to check out three of the homologation cars that
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: they had was that here in Melbourne. So we were told,
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: you can't talk about this until they go on sale,
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  Speaker 2: and we thought it was going to be a week
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  Speaker 2: or two. We then got a call the next week
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  Speaker 2: and they said, oh, you can't talk about this now
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  Speaker 2: until they go on sale, which won't be this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like okay. So we thought it was maybe
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Jan or fib So we got around to jenneal Feb.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: Nothing was happening, and basically they went on sale the
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: other day. They were spotted by someone on the Hume
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  Speaker 2: Freeway a truckload of them going to Melbourne. And this
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  Speaker 2: is what makes Tesla so nimbly in a startup nature.
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  Speaker 2: They're ready to just do things quickly. The cars arrived
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  Speaker 2: at the dock, they got on truck and went to Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Two days after they went to Melbourne they went on sale.
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  Speaker 2: And then three days after that I had one and
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  Speaker 2: the car that I had was on that truck and
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: had been driven for fifty days to calibrate the autopilot
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  Speaker 2: system and was ready to go. If that was any
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: other car company, they'd be sitting around talking about you
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: know what I'm going to get them register we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do these forms, and.
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  Speaker 1: There would be many a meeting about pr and all right,
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: which avenues do we go down for this? There'd be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of piss fighting round.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, so the fact that they were able to hit
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  Speaker 2: the market running so quickly was great. So they launched
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  Speaker 2: with a starting price of under seventy thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a good price. By the way, it is
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  Speaker 1: just missed.
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  Speaker 2: The rebate for Victoria and New South Wales but.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: The EV rebate EV rebate right, But.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: In New South Wales it's still the entry level still
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: falls in under the stamp duty rebate, which means if
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: you buy one, you won't have to pay stamp duty
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  Speaker 2: when it arrives. Then four days later the price went
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  Speaker 2: up by three grand globally for Model three and model
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  Speaker 2: Model Y, which then flowed on to Australia. They are
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  Speaker 2: honoring the people that bought theirs and paid less and
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: this is how many they sold. Right, So in the
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: first few minutes of it opening, so I got the
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: email about it being opened and I bought the car
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  Speaker 2: within the first few months.
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  Speaker 1: She did you knew this was coming. I've been sitting
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: on the so long name iy, no, with your little I.
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  Speaker 2: Knew it was coming, I just didn't know when. So
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: when the email arrived, I literally went straight to the
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Tesla website and I had to wait for my wife
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: to reply that she was okay. I was buying it.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: The second she did, I hit purchase. You pay a
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty dollars deposit check with.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: The maid that she's head to drive an ev too.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, mister Bullen, I half change, okay. So basically it
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  Speaker 2: went on sale on I think it was the Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of that day, the delivery estimate went
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: from August to November to to February. By the end
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: of the weekend it went feb to May. And now
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: you're waiting about a year for this car. Just based
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: on those initial sales, and based on my estimates, that's
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: about between six and ten thousand orders that were placed
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: over two days, and that's likely to keep growing as
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: fuel prices go up.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, if you got in early, you got yourself
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: something pretty special. You got an early delivery, which is
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: let's say August yep, right, this is say day one
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: to day two pretty much August, and you didn't have
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: to worry about the three thousand dollars increase.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: And you get to be like, Paul, that's.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: Not that's not a plus, that's not a pig. I
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: can see your fashion slightly changed a little bit.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: By the way, don't be jealous.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: That's what is that.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: It's a sweater.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah I know that, but yeah, we really it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have the it doesn't have the signature ten pockets from
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: rivers anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, So I think there's been a huge amount
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: of interest in the car, and I think that's reflective
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: of the market. You look at fuel prices at the moment,
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  Speaker 2: even though the government reduced the fuel excise, comically the
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: petrol companies like, oh, I'll just pop that twenty cents
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: straight back on there. So I think that's a little
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: bit crazy. And just this is a very quick side topic.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that the government thought about it all
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  Speaker 2: that much because truck drivers who used to claim part
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: of that fuel excise as an offset now are getting
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: fifty percent less and at the moment when transport is
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: at record highs in terms of cost, and truck drivers
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: now who you typically tend to use a lot of
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: diesel and now claiming fifty percent less that offset the
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: cost of everything is going to go up because deliveries
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: are more expensive. Truck drivers are going to lose their jobs.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: So while it might help you spend ten dollars less
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: on a tank of fuel or something, it is decimating
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: the transport industry. And it obviously hasn't even helped with
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: fuel because it's it's as expensive as it was before
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: they chopped it. Anyway, you know what.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: I hate about this studio as opposed to my radio studios,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: is I don't have when you get boring, I don't
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: have the music to fade up.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Trust me.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: We would be about five minutes into Bloody You're the
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Voice by John Farnival's I'm.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: That good song?
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: O is it?
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: I'd appreciate being faded to fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's an interesting one. It's an interesting climate that we're
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: in because electricity prices are kind of going. I don't
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: know what it's like in Melbourne, but I know in
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Sydney there was a lot of energy providers going, well,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna shut down. We're just gonna if people
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: are like stop, can you people stop?
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: We're in a weird place.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: We're in a very weird place, and especially with I
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people are now realizing, especially with Tesla,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: that the infrastructure that they've got set up is far
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: superior than say, charge Fox. I didn't realize this, but
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: is do charge Fox have advertising on their or are
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: they have? They got some sort of affiliation with NRMA.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: I think NRAMA invests in them, right, I don't think
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: they do any advertising. I know what you think of.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: There is a mob that have launched that he's doing
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: advertising on their charges. A bit silly because it's not
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: like a petrol station where you have to stand there
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: while you're filling the car for three or four minutes
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  Speaker 2: with an EV. You plug it in and go sit
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: back in the car. You don't stand there watching the
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: screen while stuff's happening.
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  Speaker 1: So I've just seen a lot of in RMA screens
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: on these charge Fox oh yes situations, and I'm like
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: the way it's set up at the moment, Like we
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: know they're famously going through issues with upkeeping all that
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: sort of stuff. I'm like, God, if I was an RMA,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be associated with that. I wouldn't
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: want my brand all over something that's just not sitting there. Yeah,
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: like a piece of shit not working.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think that that Tesla has that advantage.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately for Tesla customers that they're looking to open their
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: network up to other brands at a premium, So more
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: money for Tesla, but more inconvenience for Tesla owners because
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: now when you rock up to a supercharger. So last
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: night in the model why I drove down to Geelong
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: where they have what's called a V three supercharger. It's
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: the fastest one they do. I want to test it
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: out see how it went. And when I got there
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: were two other Teslas and I think it has availability
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: for six, so three of us in total. You can
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: just imagine that if all of a sudden this opens
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: up to the public and you rock up to charge
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: a Tesla on their proprietary setup, that you're going to
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: have to sit there and wait for someone with the
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Henda Kona to leave. And the problem as well with
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: some of these other Brandshona you have to like disinfect
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: the spot and stuff.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: God.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: But the problem is that a lot of these other
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: evs charge at a much slower rate. So it's not
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: that you're going to have to wait for them to
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: finish charging. You're gonna have to wait for them to
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: finish charging at a much slower rate, so they might
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: be there for an hour and a half potentially. So
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I think that while that's an advantage of the moment,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: it will eventually become less of an advantage for Tesla owners.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: When that situation goes down. Do you just kick back
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: in your car and watch like your own YouTube videos
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: and pull your pants down?
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I generally watch those while I'm driving.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting situation. So we know the pricing's
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: gone up, we know the waight time's gone up. Now
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: there's an autopilot option that general when you buy these,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it's like a ten grand package, which I looked at
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: that myself. Ande was like, nah, I just I don't know.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Something weird about a car driving itself at this point
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: in time. I'm like, no, thank you.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it kind of doesn't even drive itself either.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: And this is the funny thing. I was watching some
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: of the people who were ordering these, and they were
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: talking about how they've optioned it with the full self drive.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: It's called the full self driving package ironically even though
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: it doesn't. And I was thinking to myself, to these
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: people not know anything about basic maps, because if you
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: add that on to the price of the car before
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you buy it, you're pushing the recommended retail price of
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the car up by ten grand, which means you're going
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to pay more tax and potentially more luxury car tax
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: depending on how expensive the car is. So it seems
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: like an odd thing. So if you do, if you
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: are listening to this and you are planning on buying
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: that full self driving thing, because it's a software update.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: All of the cars come with the hardware for it,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: it's just a software update, do it after you've bought
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the car, because then all you pay is ten thousand
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: dollars instead of ten thousand plus luxury car tax plus
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: stamp duty plus bluff plus plus. So you're better off
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: just waiting until you've purchased the car. But what they've
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: now done they announce this shortly after this went on sale,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: that they're splitting that package up. So ten thousand dollars
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: used to get you navigation on autopilot, which means you
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: can put in a destination and it will navigate automatically
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to that destination without you having to intervene. Auto lane change,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: which is where you just touch the indicator will change
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: lanes on its own, Auto Park Summon which is where
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the car comes out of the parks, where the car
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: comes out of the park using the app, and then
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Smart Summon, which you can use in a car park
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: for the car to drive itself to you while you're
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: not near it. And then the other two were traffic
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: light and stop signal control, so it would look at
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: traffic lights and come to a stop if it was red.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: So they've now split it up so that you have
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars option which is called Enhanced Autopilot,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and that includes navigation on autopilot, auto lane change, Auto parks, Summon,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: and Smart Summon.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That is a more Yeah, that's most of what you
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: kind of yeah going to get if you pay the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: ten grand anyway.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a much more realistic price to pay because
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of other manufacturers like Polstarbile charge roughly that
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: for some of those features, and to me, stuff like
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: auto sorry, auto park and Summoner are kind of useful.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: But keep in mind that every Tesla actually comes with autopilot,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to pay extra for it, So
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: it's like a patch exactly. So let's talk about the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: actual car. The model WI. So I picked you up
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: from the airport today.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Can I just backtrack for a second. Is there the autopilot,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: say in Australia. Is that different from say the autopilot
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in America.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. So in the States they have what's called FSD beta,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: so full self driving beta. This is where it will
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: basically drive on city streets on its own.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: The only reason I know that is because on porn
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Harb there's people with this set while they're having a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: root in the backseat, and that to me was like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'll have a Tesla.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, Now all you need to do is find someone
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to have.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: A root with it exactly. Unfortunately your maid was too busy.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this full self driving. The reason I'm not
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: a fan of it is you look at the videos
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: on YouTube of some of the stuff that goes wrong,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and Tesla has famously moved away from radars and lighter
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: so it is just a camera out everything. And there
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: are instances where the car will suddenly swerve towards a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: concrete pillar or oncoming traffic where the driver has to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: intervene and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: It's like the car's gone. I can't do this anymore.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You can't do I can't do that. You've got like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Paul's playlist on Spotify, You've saved all these freaking videos.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I can't I'm just going to drive myself into a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: wall and burn to death.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing. They this type of stuff is
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: what car companies tested, a proving ground with engineers who
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: know what to do when it all goes wrong. When
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you put it in the hands of public who are
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: told you have to have your hands on the wheel.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Most of them don't in these videos, and it's only
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: a matter of time until something something happens and we're
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: all sort of screwed.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So as an engineer, does that really get on your
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: own nerves? She'd got in the hands of the public
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: as an engineer watching fellow and is designed this marvel
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of a car.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Tee where it annoys me. I don't care if they
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: do it and they hurt themselves, couldn't care less. It's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: if I'm on the road and the thing swerves towards
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: me while I'm just driving. That's where I've got a
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: problem with it. Sure, yeah, but that's that's it. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: what were your first impressions when I picked you up?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: In the model. Why I'd rather get a cab that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: was technically your free cab.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I will say is, and I noticed
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: these comments coming through when you were when you were
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: sort of showcasing it to the world on your socials.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: She's a thick girl, isn't she. I mean, if Lizo
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was a car. You don't know who. Yes, I'm going
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to show your.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Photo male or female. Jesus Christ is amazing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: You don't know who? Do you listen to? Do you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: consume music? Listen to the Beach Boys? The Beach Boys
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: are anything and smooth. M Okay, okay, this is Lizzo.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: She's okay, hang on one second.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if you've fallen asleep by this point.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Gordon's trying to use a phone.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Just give you a bit of time to crack your jokes. Okay,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: this is Lizzo.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Paul's got an erection.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, obviously she's just showing you the trunk there. Yes,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and then that is the fronk for sure? Is that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: is a feature that the Tesla doesn't have that it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: called the.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so I see what you mean, and look
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I I personally, styling is subjective, but I personally don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: like the look of it. But yourself, But to me,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I don't really care.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Once I'm inside, I can't see it, so it doesn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: bother me too much. But no, I don't love the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: styling of it. But practically it's excellent. Like when you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you have a look at this compared to the EV
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: six of the ON five, when I open the boot
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in this, it is huge and it's got heaps of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: underfloor storage. It has storage at the front. When you're inside,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: it's got a flat floor. There is heaps of room.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: In the second row, there's heaps of headroom. It looks silly,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: but it's practical in the way that it's designed. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to me, that was what's important for us in terms
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of more room, more height, et cetera. So from that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: point of view, I like it, but I understand that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: styling wise, it may not appeal to everybody.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm totally agreed. Like the outside just looks
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I think frumpy was a great way to describe it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It does kind of look like a chubby Model three, yes,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: but on the inside it's fantastic. Like everything's great from
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the seating, the the interior in these, which we're going
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to talk about this with the with the Model three
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: as well, but it is it's minimalist. There's like this, yeah. Yes,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the general opinion when driving one of these is it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: very much not driving a car. You're driving a computer.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You're driving a laptop. Yeah, I reckon, And it's it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: such a minimalist car and it's in every single way possible.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Well, there are two buttons, yeah, literally steering well and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: then the two steeringweel buttons, and they act as different things.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So you know in a normal car, how you have
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a volume control and it just does a volume with this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: When you're driving, you've got volume and cruise control and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: voice control depending on how you press them. But then
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: if you want to change your steering position or mirrors,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: when you go into the menu, the steering wheel controls,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: actors controls for those things depending on what you've selected.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So the thing that I think it desperately misses out
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: on is a head up display. And I know that
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Tesla's like, oh, it doesn't need it. It's like, well,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you actually do, especially in Victoria where you'll get done
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for doing a kilometer an hour over the speed limit.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: The speed I was so tiny and in the top
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: corner of the screen. Even stuff like the blind spot
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: camera when you put it on your hand is in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the way of the camera, so when you look down
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: you can't even see the camera until you move your hands.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: So it's stuff like that where they're trying to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: too cool for school, and it would all just be
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: fixed with a display ahead of the driver or a
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: head up display like Kerer or Yen Day users that
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think that it really would need to benefit from,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because at the moment it's it just is clumsy in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: some of the things that it does.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I think at least to that center screen could at
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: least be somewhat customizable, like if you want the if
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you want the speedo for instance, to be larger, you
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: should be able to It shouldn't be too hard to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: make something like that. Keep it in the same spot
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if you want, but just make the font bigger or
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: What they've done they recently updated that whole display to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: be completely different to what it is today, sorry to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: what it was prior to their update. What they've done
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is they've focused more on the driver display that shows
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: all the other cars around you and all the autopilot functions.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Great down the track when everything is driving on its own,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: but at the moment they've sacrificed the speedo size that shrunk,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they've sacrificed the map size that shrunk as well, all
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to make that section bigger.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's useless.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It is it is used. It's like, oh, there's a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: connext to me. I can see there's a current in
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: front of me as well, like I have eyes. So
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: it is a fairly pointless function if you're just driving
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time. So yeah, I think there
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: needs to be a bit of work done to that
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: functionality for it to actually be usable, because it is
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: very distracting at the moment while you're driving. If you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: want to try and change radio station or even change
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the climate controls, you have to be so precise with
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: where you click. Yeah. Yeah, it's just really not good.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think that was my big ripe was the interior
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was minimalis but it was almost too far and to
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the point where I mean you do get used to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: things like the basics of changing climate control or whatever.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I hated the maps at the start, I was like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I don't like these maps. I use Google Maps a lot,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and driving in Sydney's traffic, I've got no idea where
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I live after seven years. But you know you were
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: telling me when we jumped in this morning. It is
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Google Maps. It's just kind of a different interface, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it's a shit interface. It's just it's like the weird
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: thing is when you've got the tech to kind of
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: when you've got a screen like where it's got the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: vehicle visualization, it looks it's an okay map, but I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: think it could be way better.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So with the map as well, I'll typically use it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: just on navigation the whole time, so I'll put in
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: my destination because it will route you around things. So
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the other day when I was driving to Geelong to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: test out that charger, there was a heap of traffic
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: on the freeway and it took me off down some
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: back roads and I got to avoid all the stationary traffic.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So from that front, it's great. It sort of does
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: all that. That stuff's not free either, so if you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: buy one today, there's a subscription fee for the online services.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So if you want to stream video like Netflix or YouTube,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: have Spotify and also have the traffic on the maps
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and the satellite overlays. You have to pay ten bucks
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a month.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, so for instance, I've already got say Spotify,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Amazon all that, right.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're charging you for the data. So really it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it sounds like they're charging you for the services, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: all the services are free. In theory, it's just the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: data they charge you for ten dolls and other covers
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the amount of data you could potentially stream through Netflix.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So they work on a law of averages. If you
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: sat there and stream Netflix for a month straight, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: would it well and truly exceed the ten dollars a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: month they've done. But as a law of average is
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: over a year, for the two or three times you'll
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: use Netflix, there's enough money there to cover your data use.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: So you've got to think that there's twenty thousand of
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: these cars in Australia, there's a million globally that have
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: been sold just in the last year. If they all
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: have a data sim inside them and Tesla's paying for that,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the ten bucks a month is now offsetting that cost.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So it's basically like if you've got Apple Car Plane,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Android Auto in your car, you're running it off your
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: phone effectively because you're mirroring your phone. Yeah, you're paying
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: for it anyway in a way, So still frustrating.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Well, how did you go with the Model three? Which
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: spec did you drive?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Ah? The speck was the base Model three.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that basically matches up with the Model y.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I think the Model why price wise is like five
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: grand more or something like that for all the extra
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: space you get. So yeah, what did you think of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the Model three?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Look, I've been shitting on this car for a long
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: time and I've sat in it many times before, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I'd never driven it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And I've loved it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I loved it. Yeah, Paul was, Yeah, he
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: loved it. Yes, Yes, do you know, I will say,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: on the sort of scale of I guess cars, you might,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: let's say you've got internal combustion cars at one end
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and you've got sort of this EV sort of scale
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of one end. Tesla needs to be at the very
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: end because it is very much its own entity. It's
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: very much like iPhone v Android.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think you're right. A lot of other
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: car brands that do evs, they try and do it
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: differently for the sake of being different, and I just
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: don't know that it has the same effect. Although I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: think BMW is doing a good job, I don't I
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: think the way that they integrate EV in some of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: their cars. I just drove the I four and I
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: think that feels and drives like a four series, and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the interior looks just like any other BMUBA So that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: kind of thing's not too bad. But yeah, I think that, Yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: they are sort of polar opposites.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think the key is that they're making evs from
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the ground up. They're not doing what did you call
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: it the other day, compliance cars, h compliance ev right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: compliance evs. These are dedicated platforms to an EV and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it makes a lot of a difference.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Because let me explain why they do compliance evs, especially
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: in Europe. So Tesla has just finished building Gigaberlin, which
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: is their factory in Europe in Germany, and that was
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: almost entirely paid for by another car company. So that
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: may sound ridiculous, but in Europe, if your overall fleet
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: of cars averages are higher emission than the whatever the
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: limit is that European commissioners set, you have to pay
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: penalties to car companies that have exceeded the requirement. Because
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Tesla only makes evs, they naturally exceed the requirement easily. Yes,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: so another car company has basically paid all this money
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: in fines to Tesla, and Tesla used that money to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: build a new factory. Wow. So that's why they're rushing
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: out to make these compliance evs. They may not be good,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but it means they can sell a car that's an
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: EV that brings their average down. They pay less in fines.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It's political correct, shock correct.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Model why though about
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the things I didn't like In addition to that infotainment stuff.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I just want to quickly backtrack. For instance, a few
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: things I did love about the Model three was which
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of like cars in general should
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: be taking on. There's a lot of things I didn't like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: but the few things that I loved was things like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: they're essentially making the key obsolete. Yes, and like it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a card at the very least it's generally off your
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: phone or just like you carry your phone everywhere you are,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or your wallet or whatever, so the card can stick
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in your wallet, the phones in your pocket. Anyway, you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: just need to really be around the car to drive
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the thing. You know, you don't need to push anything,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you don't need to do anything. You literally just need
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to sit in it and go. It's incredibly well thought out.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It sort of blows my mind that especially EVS, even
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: a proximity sensing key generally doesn't open up your car properly,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: like it'll unlock it. But I mean, for instance, with
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: my sting, I don't know why, but it'll open. It'll
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: unlock the car, but unless you've got to push the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: button on the thing to properly open it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But that's a good point with the phone app because
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: for me, when we owned down Model three, I didn't
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: even have the card. I don't know, it just sat
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: in the thing at home. But with the app, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: can give access to people to drive the car, even
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: if they don't have a Tesla. So I can send
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you access to drive my car and then all you
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: do is just take your phone to the car and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: it will unlock and start and do everything that it
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: needs to do, and then you can track the car.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: You can send destinations to it through the app as well.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: The app is probably one of the best features of
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the car in general.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many things, even just that the cameras
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: around it. I hadn't noticed before, but if somebody comes
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: close to you in say a parking lot, it'll automatically
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: start filming, So before it hits you, it pretty much
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: knows who's going to do that. Somebody scratches your car,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it's going to like record that. At very least at
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the very foundations of this car. It is easily the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: most intelligent, well thought out and articulated car out there,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and there is a lot of car manufacturers that should
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: be taking on board not only features, but the whole
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: ethos of this car. The thing that I guess I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: didn't like is in general, there's just such an inane
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: kind of design.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: It's just generic.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so it's so very eye robot And even
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: if you shell out for the performance one, you kind
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of wanted to look performance. You want it to look cooler,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and they just don't have that. There are, especially in
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the US, a lot of companies that will do custom
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: stuff just for the Tesla's but you kind of wanted
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to just look I just wish they looked cooler.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, on stuff I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: didn't like with the Model Y, the ride is horrendous
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I read a whole bunch of European reviews because it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: been out there for a little while now, and I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: thought it can't be that bad far out. The car
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that we had was a base model. It had the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: optional twenty inch OI wheel. It comes downard with nineteen's.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: The ride was so firm that I kind of liken
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: it to my scale of car firmness is like Mercedes
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: bends at one end, which is a little too soft,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to BMWM product at the other end. And this was
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like that's a track car. Yeah, this was like a
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: bmw X three am. It was so unnecessarily firm. And
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the end result of that is you have a family suv.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: If you've got a baby in there, you fear hitting
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a pothole because you'll eject them out of the roof
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: like it is. It is just shocking. So and that's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: partly due to forty four PSI on the tires. They
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: have to run a high pressure for efficiency. It now
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: runs Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires on the twenty inch wheel,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: which tire well, no, they've got foam inside and they
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: also have stiffer sidewalls, again for efficiency. So all of
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: that results in a very firm ride. The trade off
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: there is that it handles great, so when we drive
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: it at the proven ground, it handled incredibly well for
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: a big suv, but I just think it's way too
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: firm for a family suv. So the one I've bought,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and just in case you don't know, i've bought one,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the one I bought was a base model with the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: nineteens because I need a little bit of comfort. Our
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Model three was also too firm, and I didn't want
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to go down the path of the performance because it
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: has twenty one incha loo whels, which would even worse.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So Tesla really needs an adaptive damping package. So with BMWs,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: generally you can fix the ride by ticking the adaptive
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: damping or air suspension option and then that smooths it
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: out when it is in comfort, whereas the Tesla things
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: just firm all the time. That's what you come with,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and I recommend if you have bought one, please take
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: it for a test drive. The test drives are available now.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Actually you drive it before it gets delivered, because this
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: might be enough for people to actually just cancel their
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: order and go do something else, because it may just
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: become tiring enough that you don't want to have to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: live with that ride.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to drive it before you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: bought it? No Ah, So you bought it and then
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you drove it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing. I'll probably still keep it anyway,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: just based on the nineteen should be better. So we'll
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: see how that goes, hoping.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: For the best. How did you expect this car?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: It was just it was just the base one.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But like, did you go with the car.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And the color that we have outside, which is midnight something?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, metallic, so that's the color. I would have chosen
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that or black, but I would have gone the black wheels.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's the thing. The black wheels are the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: only ones you can get on that on the twenties. So,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: which is a little bit frustrated, And.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: You don't you don't like the wine interior because you
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: had it on your original model.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I do, but my wife didn't want it because if
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: we have a kid and shouldn't want to get dirty,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: So we'll stick with it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: See that was my thing too, I said, if we're
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: going with this, I said, the white interior is going
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to look shit, And she really wanted it. And I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was like, Wow, apparently it's pretty easy.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: To clean that because they're vegan old things vegans.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Like, vegan is such a bullshit word. I know, it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: such a bull crab word.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: It's's just vinyl.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just vinyl. It's just some crappy material that
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: hopefully will last a long time.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about just a couple of other quick
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: tesla topics here, yes, sort of, before we wrap up.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: We wrote a story about this hotel that's basically it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: a Queensland startup and it lets hotel guests borrow a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: tesla for thirty dollars an hour, calling it just an
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: amenity that you can use as part of the hotel
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: startups called outbound. What do you think about that? It's
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a hotel on the Gold Coast, thirty bucks an hour
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is pretty reasonable, I reckon. Do you think that more
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: hotels should be adopting this type of thing?
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I think it's
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a very good idea. This is a this isn't actually
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: too new, especially to Queensland, because I know that I'm
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: pretty sure there's a deal going with that. What's that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: bloody Steve Irwin reptile, the Australian Reptile Australia Zoo. Right,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they've got a fleet of evs
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that will take you from your hotel. They're pretty much
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: charged to go from say the park back to the hotel.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that unique. It certainly is
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: with a Tesla, I guess. I think it's a good idea.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Why not. I mean, and it's good for tesla too,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people that will go. I've
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: always wanted one, but I have never driven one. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it's also like a it's a chance to hire a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: car and also have a test drive as well.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's also good for apartment buildings. I mean, if you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: had a communal car there that you could hire per hour.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's a car that is in the garage that you
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: just book in and take away with you.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's also suit me with the hotels that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I get because I usually rent them for an hour,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and then if I can rent the car for an
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: hour as well, and Paul's made for an hour, it
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: works out pretty good.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: This was very generous.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly I'm a bit of a slow coach.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think. I think it's a good idea.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: So the more of that, the more of that, the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: better I reckon. And one thing that I wanted to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: touch on as well that isn't really Tesla, but I
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: think is a valid valid point. Toyota is currently clashing
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: with its shareholders about a slow EV rollout and they're
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: doing some sort of North Korean style stuff here where
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I think it was a Danish superannuation fund who invests
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: in Toyota. They basically criticized them at an investor presentation
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, what's going on with the EV rollout?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: And Toyota got back to them and said, I'm so sorry.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: The closing time for questions was yesterday, but it was
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: written nowhere that that's when you had to hand your
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: questions invite. Toyota is interesting though, so they were kind
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: of the they.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Were kind of or get your dribble bit or something.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: They were kind of the starters of the electric game
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: with hybrid right with press and stuff like this. So
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: they've been in EV's for a while now, but they
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: haven't really been doing full lev's are being very hesitant
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: with that that they're big on hydrogen as well. There
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: argument about not going full ev IS because some parts
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: around the world won't be ready and may never be
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: ready for ev So if you think about some third
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: world countries where the powers out every ten seconds, they
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: use camp stoves as ovens and all that sort of stuff,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you're not going to have enough power to you just.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You know, look, I'm gonna have to cook with a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: camb oven and you know, I live in a pretty
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: appalling sort of shanty town. But jeez, the new Toyota
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: land Cruiser looks good.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: At least it's on an TV. Yeah, but yeah, I
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: think there's there are still some places around the world
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: where EV's may not work and may not ever work.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: And I think Toyota is thinking about it from from
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a way of Okay, if we can reduce the economies
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: of scale on cheaper engines and perhaps have hybrids as
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: well that bridge the gap, then why not. But it
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: shareholders don't seem to agree with that, So what are
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: your thoughts?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, I don't really care at this point.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I think that they clearly no stuff that we don't.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: You know, they're making business decisions, higher scale business decisions
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that they've probably got a good point. There's probably a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: lot of countries that an EV wouldn't work in. I mean,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Australia is moving so quickly and our infrastructure is so slow.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: At one point, you know, six months ago, the general
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: consensus was we're not really that ready for evs either,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So probably yeah. I mean I can't exactly see myself
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: going on holiday to Vietnam and going around in a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: bloody Tesla or something like that, So you know, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: think I think they're probably right. I think there's some
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: countries that are good sort of twenty years at least.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it's it is an interesting one.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: So well, Yeah, I hope you enjoyed our Tesla Special.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I certainly did not.
• 39:46
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• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you know, wh while we're talking about Toyota, I kind
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: of I kind of zoned out and I was thinking
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Toyota Supra the the Newness and Z.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Who that would be good. Yeah. Big price difference though,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: because the Z is now going to be cheaper, much
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: cheaper than the Super, so I think globally that's going
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to put a lot of pressure on Toyota in terms
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of super pricing, which will be interesting.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Have you touched the Z yet?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: No, not yet.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I've seen video footage of it and it sounds unreal.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: It looks good as well.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: It sounds so good, looks great. Just trying to like
• 40:38
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• 40:44
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• 41:04
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• 41:07
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• 41:11
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• 41:14
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• 41:17
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• 41:22
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• 41:26
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• 41:28
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• 41:32
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• 41:35
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• 41:36
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• 41:45
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• 41:49
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• 41:52
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• 41:54
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• 41:57
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• 42:00
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