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- 0:31Speaker 4: This is Chucking Buck in the Morning.
- 0:33Speaker 1: What's that you people are beyond?
- 0:36Speaker 5: Let's go, let's get the game off.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Oh, good morning.
- 0:52Speaker 6: Welcome into this Wednesday, this Humpday edition of Chucking Buck
- 0:56Speaker 6: in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three k
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- 0:59Speaker 1: It is great to have you with us.
- 1:02Speaker 6: And when I say us, I mean Ashley Ryan and
- 1:04Speaker 6: Chuck Powell because Bucky Jacobson is still out and we'll
- 1:07Speaker 6: be out for a little while longer. And we welcome
- 1:10Speaker 6: you into this hump day edition of the radio program
- 1:14Speaker 6: where we have much to do today. We also have
- 1:16Speaker 6: some outstanding guests to throw your way today as well,
- 1:20Speaker 6: so we're excited about chatting with him. And we have
- 1:22Speaker 6: some cash just lying around, so why not why not
- 1:26Speaker 6: give it to others when we could really use it ourselves.
- 1:30Speaker 7: It's a great plan of giving other people money.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
- 1:34Speaker 6: Yeah. Robinhood, you know, he robbed the rich and paid
- 1:39Speaker 6: others with it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It's kind of what we're doing here. We're kind of
- 1:42Speaker 1: being the Robin Hood.
- 1:43Speaker 8: Heels like it, but it doesn't feel as rewarding.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, kind of.
- 1:48Speaker 8: People were like, gosh, that Robinhood guy, he's so selfless.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if Robinhood had a mortgage Probably not, probably.
- 1:55Speaker 8: Not, Yeah, because they were like and they were like, oh,
- 1:56Speaker 8: look at him in his green outfit.
- 1:58Speaker 7: He's just a cute little fox.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Well, yeah that was the cartoon.
- 2:03Speaker 7: Cartoon, that's that's my favorite.
- 2:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:07Speaker 7: Well, with this American accent.
- 2:10Speaker 6: What you didn't really realize is that mister and missus
- 2:13Speaker 6: Hood lived in a mansion down on the corner.
- 2:17Speaker 1: They were really well I mean, yeah, they were really
- 2:19Speaker 1: well to do.
- 2:19Speaker 6: They inherited a lot of money to become foxes talking foxes.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Yes, and that doesn't happen in a decent society.
- 2:27Speaker 7: No, you can't do you can't do that on that So, yeah, they.
- 2:30Speaker 6: Were already independently wealthy, and that's why they robbed rich
- 2:33Speaker 6: and gave to the poor where we are much higher,
- 2:37Speaker 6: elevated our moral structure.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Well, it is untouched. Bills is your keyword going into that.
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- 2:50Speaker 6: com used in a sentence, mister and missus hood never
- 2:53Speaker 6: even had to pay bills.
- 2:55Speaker 7: Other people just paid them for them.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the show.
- 3:00Speaker 6: Certainly we are going to talk to Mariners baseball, but
- 3:03Speaker 6: I don't need to talk about that game and two
- 3:05Speaker 6: segments to start my day, so we'll save the details
- 3:09Speaker 6: of last night's three two loss to the Atlanta Braves
- 3:11Speaker 6: for Mariners Morning After, which is coming up.
- 3:14Speaker 1: At six thirty. I will tell you this.
- 3:16Speaker 6: I did go to the game last night, right, first
- 3:19Speaker 6: one I've gone to this year, which not I mean,
- 3:22Speaker 6: I don't go to as many games as you might
- 3:25Speaker 6: think you out there listening, but certainly for me to
- 3:29Speaker 6: make my first appearance on May fifth, that is absurd.
- 3:33Speaker 6: But it's been kind of a weird start. I mean,
- 3:35Speaker 6: I've had colonoscopy stuff, and I've been out of town,
- 3:38Speaker 6: and I've had a few things that have run interference
- 3:41Speaker 6: on me getting to the Ballyard here to this point
- 3:44Speaker 6: in the season.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So I did go last night.
- 3:47Speaker 6: It was great to see a couple of a few
- 3:49Speaker 6: people last night, including Angie Mentink. Gave Angie a big hug.
- 3:53Speaker 6: Haven't seen her in a while, and I saw I'll
- 3:58Speaker 6: get to the baseball people a moment. I saw Jude
- 4:01Speaker 6: and Divish. They were a little rude at first.
- 4:04Speaker 7: Those guys are your butts? Yeah, I'll tell you what
- 4:07Speaker 7: it is.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Yeah, there fists, yep.
- 4:16Speaker 6: But but I went with a celebrity last year. No,
- 4:20Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, well you would be surprised.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:26Speaker 6: He gets a lot of attention, so you go with yeah. Yes,
- 4:30Speaker 6: I don't want to brag. I don't want to come
- 4:31Speaker 6: across like I'm so cool.
- 4:35Speaker 7: You're about to name drop us, aren't you.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I'm going to name drop And Paul McCartney told me
- 4:38Speaker 1: never to do this. Yeah, and yet I'm going to go.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a shot.
- 4:42Speaker 4: Today.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I went with a guy by the name of David Maller.
- 4:45Speaker 8: Oh wow, is there anyone more famous in this town?
- 4:49Speaker 8: I don't know if there is, probably not.
- 4:51Speaker 6: BUCkies, Buggies good like, like, I don't I don't really
- 4:55Speaker 6: like much attention when I go out, I kind of
- 4:59Speaker 6: like want to kind of fly under the radar and.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Good thing you can go with me.
- 5:07Speaker 7: I don't get any attention, so.
- 5:11Speaker 6: I kind of I kind of like it, yeah, being
- 5:13Speaker 6: the observer of all things.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But Bucky gets a lot of attention.
- 5:18Speaker 6: I mean, I've said it before, like per at bat,
- 5:20Speaker 6: Bucky's probably the most famous baseball player in his hometown
- 5:26Speaker 6: or in his where he played baseball than anybody yeah,
- 5:29Speaker 6: ever lived.
- 5:30Speaker 1: I mean forty at bats, he had forty eight bats.
- 5:32Speaker 6: Yeah, and he walks down the street and every ten
- 5:35Speaker 6: feet somebody else out his name. I'm not sure any
- 5:38Speaker 6: other baseball player that played forty at bats.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Or forty games. Yeah, forty games, forty games. I can
- 5:46Speaker 1: say that.
- 5:46Speaker 7: No, I could I believe that.
- 5:48Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, so at bat pert bat, he might be
- 5:51Speaker 6: the most famous Major leaguer ever to wear a uniform
- 5:57Speaker 6: in that town.
- 5:58Speaker 7: And it does help one.
- 5:59Speaker 8: He has a fun personality, right, so people glommed onto
- 6:03Speaker 8: him when he was up here with the big clubs.
- 6:06Speaker 8: He's huge, yeah, and ginger, yes, And he's got a
- 6:08Speaker 8: look and beard and so everybody now you know when
- 6:13Speaker 8: you see him either it's not him and it really
- 6:17Speaker 8: looks like him, or you are lucky that it is him.
- 6:20Speaker 6: Uh yeah, so so that I'm not sure it's pretty
- 6:25Speaker 6: even like neck and neck having been like with him
- 6:28Speaker 6: at a baseball game. But Softy gets kind of noticed
- 6:32Speaker 6: everywhere too. Pretty crazy for somebody that doesn't stand out
- 6:35Speaker 6: like a billboard with a red beard.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Right, uh, like normal looking.
- 6:40Speaker 6: I mean I already knew that he was going to
- 6:42Speaker 6: be recognized a lot. But to cross the street and
- 6:45Speaker 6: then to hand our tickets over and that just that
- 6:48Speaker 6: normal process. And then the guy at taking the tickets
- 6:52Speaker 6: is like, have a good didn't say anything, didn't say anything,
- 6:55Speaker 6: So I didn't be like, okay, well we're no, didn't
- 6:59Speaker 6: soft he didn't.
- 6:59Speaker 4: I didn't.
- 7:00Speaker 6: I wasn't even thinking about Softy did or did not
- 7:02Speaker 6: get recognized? Right, and then just casually have a good
- 7:05Speaker 6: time Softy. Oh and just so apparently that's his ticket guy. Yeah,
- 7:10Speaker 6: so like every few steps he gets stopped, so he's uh,
- 7:15Speaker 6: he's legit.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I've I've set up before. I think he should get
- 7:18Speaker 1: a statue someday. Since we're just handing out statues.
- 7:21Speaker 7: Well, there are a lot of them to be given out.
- 7:24Speaker 6: But at some at some point, I think it should
- 7:26Speaker 6: go out at Mott Lake, I should have should go
- 7:29Speaker 6: outside of Husky Stadium.
- 7:31Speaker 1: But I think he deserves his own statue well.
- 7:33Speaker 8: And as as Mike Cameron said, everybody you know wants
- 7:36Speaker 8: a statue that people can walk up and get when
- 7:38Speaker 8: they're drunk and pee on.
- 7:39Speaker 6: That would be the best one. And Softy Gouty to
- 7:42Speaker 6: pee on them me too.
- 7:44Speaker 7: I would absolutely on that one.
- 7:48Speaker 6: But if you're thinking, boy, you guys, I mean you
- 7:51Speaker 6: must have had some laughs. No, we kind of talked
- 7:53Speaker 6: about some really serious stuff. Wow, that's what we did
- 7:55Speaker 6: at the ball game. And you don't get to watch
- 7:57Speaker 6: the game as closely as you want, as it turns
- 7:59Speaker 6: out when you're there.
- 8:01Speaker 8: No, you don't because there's a lot of things to distract, yes, right,
- 8:05Speaker 8: and if you're at home and you miss something, they're going.
- 8:07Speaker 7: To shove it on a replay or you can rewind it.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Uh huh.
- 8:10Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a lot easier to I mean, sim yeah,
- 8:14Speaker 8: we've talked about this with Seahawks games too, because I'll
- 8:17Speaker 8: I've gone to a game and thought, Okay, I'm going
- 8:19Speaker 8: to be there at the game and I'm going to
- 8:21Speaker 8: have right, But then You're like, well, if you depending
- 8:23Speaker 8: on where you're sitting in the angle of the field
- 8:25Speaker 8: and what could you see and then you're texting people
- 8:27Speaker 8: at home, well was that this?
- 8:29Speaker 7: And you know, it's it's.
- 8:31Speaker 8: Way easier to pay attention and watch at home. But
- 8:34Speaker 8: it's not the same experience, right, No, no question about it.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Like going to the Ballyard. There's still a ten year
- 8:40Speaker 1: old in all of us.
- 8:41Speaker 7: There's a buzz there is.
- 8:42Speaker 6: Yeah, there's just something great about being at the game,
- 8:45Speaker 6: especially on a beautiful night.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's such a great park. I mean, it's.
- 8:49Speaker 6: Still to this day looks brand new as just I mean,
- 8:53Speaker 6: so there's there's always something magical about going to the
- 8:57Speaker 6: game itself. But you're right, and as somebody that has
- 9:00Speaker 6: to talk about these games afterwards, like going to a
- 9:04Speaker 6: Seahawks game, I go to.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Very few games.
- 9:08Speaker 6: And the reason is is because number one, I want
- 9:10Speaker 6: to watch all the teams play in the National Football League.
- 9:14Speaker 6: I want to keep up to date with that. But secondly,
- 9:17Speaker 6: it's like an all day affair and then you go
- 9:19Speaker 6: home that night and I have to rewatch the game, Yeah.
- 9:23Speaker 7: So that you actually can see the things that you missed.
- 9:26Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to see the replays, and I want
- 9:28Speaker 6: to see, you know, plays.
- 9:30Speaker 7: That how ms actually go down.
- 9:32Speaker 6: Yes, you know, was that ken Walker that really busted
- 9:36Speaker 6: off the sixty three or or was it Gray's Abel
- 9:38Speaker 6: that busted him loose? In real time? I mean, I
- 9:42Speaker 6: know that certain Hugh Millan could probably catch that. But
- 9:45Speaker 6: then again, Hugh Millan spends more time rewinding to make
- 9:48Speaker 6: sure than probably anybody in the world. So so that
- 9:52Speaker 6: whole thing it goes into not going to too many games.
- 9:55Speaker 6: But yes, it's magical to go to the ballpark. It
- 9:59Speaker 6: was so much fun to go with David yesterday. And
- 10:03Speaker 6: even though we talked a lot about a lot of
- 10:04Speaker 6: serious things at the Ballyard and it wasn't necessarily a
- 10:09Speaker 6: million laughs, it was awesome to hang out with my
- 10:13Speaker 6: friend Dave Maller.
- 10:13Speaker 8: Well, I'm glad you got to go, and I'm glad
- 10:15Speaker 8: it was fun since you you know, since it is
- 10:17Speaker 8: harder to pay attention to the game when you're there.
- 10:20Speaker 1: We did lose.
- 10:21Speaker 7: Did you know that?
- 10:22Speaker 1: I did know? Okay, that's kind of why I'm not talking.
- 10:25Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I just wanted to make sure that you
- 10:27Speaker 8: were aware of that part.
- 10:29Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get into that coming up with Mariners morning
- 10:32Speaker 6: after at six thirty. But I will say this, I
- 10:36Speaker 6: did one of the people that I ran into, Pete
- 10:39Speaker 6: Woodworth ran. I got to say the pitching coach talked
- 10:42Speaker 6: to him for a little bit and I said, how
- 10:44Speaker 6: are things going?
- 10:45Speaker 1: And he goes two words, Emerson Hancock.
- 10:47Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because he told me at the beginning of
- 10:51Speaker 6: the year, he's like something's different.
- 10:53Speaker 7: Need to have him on again soon.
- 10:55Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be fun because he's awesome. And then I
- 10:58Speaker 6: saw Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller's one of the first people
- 11:00Speaker 6: I saw on the field, so he was at the park.
- 11:02Speaker 6: I'm sure he saw him in the broadcast because I
- 11:04Speaker 6: did go him and rewatch the broadcast last night, so
- 11:07Speaker 6: he was. He was at the game. He pitches tonight.
- 11:10Speaker 6: In everyte Yep, he looks fantastic. Like I said in
- 11:13Speaker 6: spring training that he's you know, filling out.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's him. I don't know
- 11:17Speaker 1: if he got a.
- 11:17Speaker 6: Bowflex, I don't know if Yeah, I don't know if
- 11:21Speaker 6: he's you know, just protein powdering it, you know every.
- 11:24Speaker 8: Set, probably dry. He just probably drinks just chugs dry
- 11:28Speaker 8: protein powder, or if he's just.
- 11:30Speaker 6: Got man weight that he's adding as he gets a
- 11:32Speaker 6: little bit older. But I mean he just looks more
- 11:35Speaker 6: like a more physical I mean he's six'. Three you,
- 11:38Speaker 6: know you don't really think about that when you see
- 11:40Speaker 6: him on television because he looks, skinny but.
- 11:42Speaker 1: He's a he's you, know he's got he's.
- 11:45Speaker 6: Got some muscle structure to. Him so he just looks.
- 11:47Speaker 6: Great he just he looks like, he's you, know as
- 11:50Speaker 6: healthy as can.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Be he had never.
- 11:51Speaker 6: Guessed and, uh and WHAT i got out Of bryce
- 11:56Speaker 6: in a short. Conversation and this is Why jude And
- 11:58Speaker 6: DIVISH i THINK i interrupt up to the conversation they.
- 12:01Speaker 4: Were having With.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Bryce you, KNOW i kind of crashed the. Party, yeah
- 12:05Speaker 1: a little, bit but BUT i.
- 12:07Speaker 6: Didn't but ONCE i realized, That i'm, like, Well i'm
- 12:09Speaker 6: not gonna say her an ask, questions BUT i am
- 12:11Speaker 6: gonna eavesdrop a little.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Bit.
- 12:13Speaker 6: Yeah uh and so, uh basically he, Said, okay he.
- 12:18Speaker 6: Goes he told me he, Goes i'll be An everett.
- 12:20Speaker 6: TOMORROW i, go, YEAH i already knew.
- 12:21Speaker 4: That.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Silly.
- 12:23Speaker 6: Goose, yeah and then uh and then casually just said
- 12:27Speaker 6: later and if IF i do another, reab start if
- 12:32Speaker 6: In tacoma so, yeah that was. Key so my deduction
- 12:36Speaker 6: from all of that Was Bryce miller Feels i'm ready to,
- 12:39Speaker 6: Go LIKE i, Get i'm on a, schedule and, YES
- 12:45Speaker 6: i might do two more of, These BUT i got
- 12:49Speaker 6: the impression he felt great and he was ready to.
- 12:52Speaker 6: Go and maybe there's an element of the organization buying
- 12:56Speaker 6: some time right. Now maybe there is an element of
- 12:59Speaker 6: the organization still wanting to Evaluate bryce and just how
- 13:04Speaker 6: sharp he. Is it's being sold as we've got to
- 13:08Speaker 6: get his pitch count up because we interrupted his spring
- 13:11Speaker 6: training and then had to start the reab process all over.
- 13:15Speaker 6: Again so if you're trying to get the pitch count,
- 13:18Speaker 6: up then the natural reaction to, that the natual conclusion
- 13:22Speaker 6: to that is they're preparing for him to be a starting.
- 13:25Speaker 6: Pitcher and we've had this discussion numerous. Times it's one
- 13:28Speaker 6: of the reasons we're Having Bill krueger on. TODAY i
- 13:31Speaker 6: want to get to the bottom of. This everybody wants
- 13:33Speaker 6: to get to the bottom of. This how are you
- 13:35Speaker 6: going to do this with the starting? Pitching is this
- 13:37Speaker 6: going to be a six man? Rotation is this going
- 13:39Speaker 6: to be Really Emerson hancock being sent? Down is this
- 13:44Speaker 6: going to Be Bryce miller Versus Luis. CASTILE i Think
- 13:48Speaker 6: krueger has floated. OUT i think On Softy show that
- 13:52Speaker 6: he might just Bring miller back to the. Bullpen, well
- 13:55Speaker 6: then why do we need to stretch him out then
- 13:58Speaker 6: if that's going to be his immediate.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Future so a lot of different.
- 14:02Speaker 6: Possibilities and then that doesn't even Count Kate, anderson who's
- 14:05Speaker 6: dominating DOUBLE. A and now we're writing articles in the
- 14:08Speaker 6: local newspaper about putting him in the, book putting him
- 14:12Speaker 6: in the bullpen at this, point because you're certainly not
- 14:15Speaker 6: going to go to a seven man. Rotation so this,
- 14:18Speaker 6: DECISION i mean long way of, saying this decision is
- 14:21Speaker 6: coming very. Soon and of all the problems that The mariners,
- 14:26Speaker 6: have this.
- 14:26Speaker 4: Is not a.
- 14:27Speaker 6: Problem it's great to have an excess of starting. Pitching
- 14:30Speaker 6: other teams don't have enough to get five men in their.
- 14:33Speaker 6: Rotation jesus Fran braval does get. Suspended i'm not sure
- 14:37Speaker 6: The tigers have a starting. Pitcher so it's a great
- 14:41Speaker 6: problem to, have but it's not the easiest problem to,
- 14:46Speaker 6: solve AND.
- 14:48Speaker 1: I think WHAT i would do with it is.
- 14:51Speaker 6: BECAUSE i Think Bryce miller is going to be terrific
- 14:54Speaker 6: as soon as he hits the, ground AND i seem
- 14:57Speaker 6: way too much Of emerson to demote, him and there's
- 15:00Speaker 6: no way.
- 15:00Speaker 1: You're Touching, Wu kirby And. Gilbert so.
- 15:05Speaker 6: Even though it might be, DIFFICULT i think the solution
- 15:08Speaker 6: is That castile becomes a long reliever. Yep and then
- 15:11Speaker 6: by the end of the, season maybe he has embraced relief.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Pitching hopefully we stay healthy knock on, wood and he
- 15:20Speaker 6: might end up being a heck of a high leverage.
- 15:22Speaker 6: RELIEVER i think that he profiles as, such and SO
- 15:27Speaker 6: i think that's WHAT i would. Do But i'm not
- 15:30Speaker 6: getting the impression that that's what they're going to. Do
- 15:34Speaker 6: and this has NOTHING i didn't talk to anybody in
- 15:36Speaker 6: the front office last.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Night this is just me kind of reading the tea.
- 15:39Speaker 6: LEAVES i don't think they're gonna mess With, castillo AND
- 15:43Speaker 6: i don't think they're gonna mess With, bryce AND i
- 15:45Speaker 6: don't think they're gonna mess With. EMERSON i think they're
- 15:48Speaker 6: going to go to a six man. Rotation The dodgers
- 15:51Speaker 6: would boot are doing, it trying to Keep shohey and others.
- 15:54Speaker 6: Fresh oh, gosh who else is doing? It there's another
- 15:59Speaker 6: prominent team that's been doing it to usually have that right.
- 16:02Speaker 6: Fingertips but there are a couple of teams In Major
- 16:05Speaker 6: League baseball having successful years that are doing. This and
- 16:08Speaker 6: my guess is that's what they're going to, do is
- 16:11Speaker 6: they're going to go to a six man. Rotation the
- 16:14Speaker 6: danger of that is that you now are going to
- 16:17Speaker 6: change everybody's, habits and.
- 16:19Speaker 1: That could negatively.
- 16:21Speaker 6: Affect you don't know how that might, affect could positively affect,
- 16:24Speaker 6: everyone could negatively affect, everyone could positively affect some and
- 16:27Speaker 6: negatively affect.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Others you don't.
- 16:29Speaker 6: Know these, players more so than, ever are slaves to their.
- 16:33Speaker 6: Routine and yet you're going to take these slaves to
- 16:35Speaker 6: their routine and willingly change every single one of. Them
- 16:40Speaker 6: AND i don't like, that BUT i kind of feel
- 16:43Speaker 6: like that's what they're going to. Do AND i think
- 16:47Speaker 6: maybe the benefit of that could be maybe you get
- 16:50Speaker 6: longer starts because they're pitching every sixth day or every seventh.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Day is post every fifth or sixth.
- 16:56Speaker 6: Day so maybe you get an longer stary and that
- 17:01Speaker 6: helps you make up for the lack of bullpen that
- 17:04Speaker 6: you have right now that If George kirby's GOING i
- 17:08Speaker 6: Mean George kirby could have easily gone eight. INNINGS i
- 17:10Speaker 6: don't know WHY i didn't last. Night If George kirby's going,
- 17:13Speaker 6: eight that's one last. Inning that's three fewer outs that
- 17:16Speaker 6: you're gonna have to get from your. Bullpen and if
- 17:20Speaker 6: you can do that with each one of your, starters
- 17:22Speaker 6: because they're just a little more rested from start to,
- 17:26Speaker 6: start then you are possibly solving our lack of depth
- 17:32Speaker 6: suddenly in the bullpen.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Issue that has popped up here On may. Sixth SO
- 17:37Speaker 1: i think that's what they're going to.
- 17:38Speaker 6: Do it saves them from having to demote, Somebody it
- 17:42Speaker 6: saves them from having to have a difficult conversation with
- 17:46Speaker 6: a veteran. Pitcher, potentially it saves them from doing all
- 17:49Speaker 6: this work to Get Bryce miller extended and then shorten
- 17:52Speaker 6: him at the major league. Level and so my guess
- 17:56Speaker 6: is that we're going to a six man rotation at
- 17:59Speaker 6: least for a while When Bryce miller is good.
- 18:02Speaker 8: And ready to, go which And i'm fine with. THAT
- 18:04Speaker 8: i either like That orchestillo to the. Bullpen but my
- 18:07Speaker 8: only thought or, CONCERN i suppose if you go to
- 18:12Speaker 8: the sixth man rotation and then somebody else gets, injured
- 18:16Speaker 8: then are you going back to a five man?
- 18:18Speaker 7: Rotation?
- 18:19Speaker 1: Probably and then when.
- 18:20Speaker 8: They're, back are you going back to a sixth man?
- 18:23Speaker 8: Rotation and how is that if you're having to go
- 18:26Speaker 8: back and forth or is that a situation where if
- 18:29Speaker 8: down the road somebody gets injured then you, say, okay,
- 18:31Speaker 8: well Now Kate anderson is going to be our sixth
- 18:33Speaker 8: so that we can keep it the.
- 18:34Speaker 7: SAME i just worry about the. CONSISTENCY i want if you're.
- 18:38Speaker 8: Gonna go with, SIX i want you to stay at,
- 18:40Speaker 8: six not go six to five to six to.
- 18:43Speaker 6: FIVE i think it's a good. POINT i Think Kate
- 18:46Speaker 6: anderson can be a major league pitcher right. Now, yeah
- 18:49Speaker 6: AND i think they know. That, yeah but you obviously
- 18:54Speaker 6: you haven't tested in at TRIPLE, a which isn't always. Necessary,
- 18:57Speaker 6: yeah you, KNOW i mean there have been plenty of
- 18:59Speaker 6: guys that move from DOUBLE a to the. MAJORS i
- 19:03Speaker 6: mean a lot of people argue that DOUBLE a competition
- 19:05Speaker 6: is better than TRIPLE a competition, anyway and SO i
- 19:10Speaker 6: know that DOESN'T i know that sounds a bit illogical
- 19:12Speaker 6: to some of, you But TRIPLE a is pretty much
- 19:14Speaker 6: all the guys that mostly fringe guys Where DOUBLE a.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Is where you're stocking most of your future talent in your.
- 19:25Speaker 6: Organization so, yes there is an upgrade Because Kate anderson
- 19:29Speaker 6: would get to face guys who have major league experience
- 19:32Speaker 6: At TRIPLE a and but maybe not as TALENTED a
- 19:37Speaker 6: lineups as he's facing The DOUBLE.
- 19:38Speaker 1: A so when you dominate at that, level.
- 19:42Speaker 6: Because there's not much difference Between DOUBLE a And TRIPLE,
- 19:45Speaker 6: a when you're dominating that, much you're kind of, ready you,
- 19:49Speaker 6: Know and so maybe they'd like to test a couple of.
- 19:51Speaker 6: Things they certainly don't want him to come up and
- 19:53Speaker 6: get shelled, no and then have to deal with that
- 19:58Speaker 6: aspect of trying to decide whether or not they're going
- 20:00Speaker 6: to demote. Him so they got, time and certainly they've
- 20:03Speaker 6: got an excess of starting pitchers right. Now, yeah so
- 20:05Speaker 6: they're they're not too worried About Kate. Anderson they're going
- 20:09Speaker 6: to just stick with their game plan with. Him but
- 20:12Speaker 6: to your, point in a, pinch if they wanted to
- 20:14Speaker 6: stay the six man, rotation if guys are, thriving he's, Ready,
- 20:17Speaker 6: yeah he could.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Be he could be.
- 20:18Speaker 6: Introduced he'd probably be already in the rotation for about
- 20:22Speaker 6: twenty teams in Major League.
- 20:23Speaker 7: Baseball, yeah and hopefully it's not something they have to worry, about.
- 20:25Speaker 8: Right hopefully Once miller comes, back all six of our
- 20:28Speaker 8: guys stay healthy and we run with that and it goes.
- 20:30Speaker 7: Swimmingly, Yeah, yeah that would be the.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Dream but it's.
- 20:33Speaker 6: Coming and AS i, said we'll talk To Bill krueger
- 20:36Speaker 6: today about. It at seven oh, five let's find out
- 20:38Speaker 6: what else is on tap for the show.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Today what's ON?
- 20:43Speaker 4: Tep what's ON?
- 20:45Speaker 1: Tep Mariner's Morning after at six.
- 20:46Speaker 6: THIRTY i do want to talk About Framberg valdez because
- 20:50Speaker 6: he's not only potentially touched off a riot last night
- 20:54Speaker 6: between The Red sox and The. Tigers there's more to
- 20:57Speaker 6: this story than meets the, eye AND i think it's
- 21:00Speaker 6: the most fascinating story of the entire, day SO i
- 21:04Speaker 6: have dedicated a twenty minute segment to it at nine o'clock.
- 21:07Speaker 6: TODAY Nhl lottery last, night The kracking got no ping
- 21:11Speaker 6: pong ball.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Luck last.
- 21:13Speaker 6: Night they had the six best chances and even though
- 21:16Speaker 6: they only take out of that ping pong hopper two
- 21:19Speaker 6: ping pong, balls it pushed The cracking down so they
- 21:23Speaker 6: went from six to.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Seven so they actually lost. Ground. Yeah then the lottery.
- 21:28Speaker 6: Process, meanwhile The Toronto Maple leafs ended up with the
- 21:33Speaker 6: number one.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Pick we'll talk about it at six forty. FIVE i
- 21:37Speaker 1: was going to.
- 21:37Speaker 6: Start can't wait to discuss, it but we'll talk about
- 21:40Speaker 6: it at six forty. Five Stanley Cup Playoffs Colorado avalanche
- 21:44Speaker 6: five to two winners Over. Minnesota they have scored fourteen
- 21:47Speaker 6: goals in two. Games my, GOODNESS i don't know if
- 21:52Speaker 6: they'll be able to be stopped this. Year they're up
- 21:54Speaker 6: to to zhero in the series right. Now game one
- 21:57Speaker 6: Of montreal And buffalo takes place. Tonight they're just getting.
- 22:01Speaker 6: Started colorado And minnesota already played two whole. Games, meanwhile
- 22:05Speaker 6: you're gonna Have anaheim At vegas for game number two
- 22:08Speaker 6: there with The knights up. One OH Nba Playoffs Oklahoma
- 22:12Speaker 6: city one eight ninety winners over The lakers last. Night
- 22:15Speaker 6: that was the first game in that. Series same thing
- 22:17Speaker 6: in The Detroit cleveland series and The pistons won by
- 22:20Speaker 6: ten over The. Cavaliers, Tonight philadelphia At New york with
- 22:23Speaker 6: The knicks up. One Oh minnesota At San antonio with
- 22:27Speaker 6: the road Team minnesota up. One OH wnba will start
- 22:31Speaker 6: its regular season This friday And, yes The storm are on.
- 22:35Speaker 1: The opening day.
- 22:36Speaker 6: Docket they will take on The valkyries Of Golden state
- 22:40Speaker 6: This friday night to start their W nba, Season and
- 22:44Speaker 6: of course we'll talk a LITTLE nfl. Today Dante Fowler
- 22:49Speaker 6: junior joined The hawks, yesterday and of Course canine Ken
- 22:53Speaker 6: walker has moved on from the. Team but a quiet
- 22:57Speaker 6: man has been talking quite a bit in the last
- 23:00Speaker 6: thirty six hours about why he never felt he was
- 23:04Speaker 6: going to re sign with The. Seahawks so we'll talk
- 23:07Speaker 6: about that today at eight. Thirty but coming up next
- 23:10Speaker 6: On Chucking buck in the. Morning so it Is Mariners morning.
- 23:13Speaker 6: After hey, Highlight hey sound, bite a preview of what's
- 23:17Speaker 6: going on today On Sports radio ninety three point THREE.
- 23:20Speaker 6: KJRFM J SWANS jp have done.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Again he Hands hoarded back to the.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Games, well it.
- 23:35Speaker 1: May only be the bottom of the, third.
- 23:38Speaker 9: BUT jp gives A mariner to go ahead. Runs he
- 23:44Speaker 9: is really starting to settle in at the top of that.
- 23:46Speaker 10: LINEUP i was, LIKE i don't know if we have
- 23:55Speaker 10: enough proof of.
- 23:56Speaker 7: That yett just walking and.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Swinging for.
- 24:03Speaker 7: Defenses hey worked out the last two. Games that.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Part i'll say it has worked out the last two.
- 24:08Speaker 6: Games And Ryan healy had a very interesting observation and
- 24:11Speaker 6: conversation WITH jp about. This if you didn't hear our show,
- 24:15Speaker 6: yesterday we're gonna replace some of that later in our.
- 24:17Speaker 1: ABC's of THE.
- 24:18Speaker 6: Ms but welcome into our second hour here Of Chucking
- 24:21Speaker 6: buck in The. Morning Sports radio ninety three point THREE.
- 24:23Speaker 6: Kjarfm here on this Homey Ashley ryan is. Here my
- 24:27Speaker 6: name Is Chuck. Powell No Bucky jacobson out for a
- 24:30Speaker 6: little while, longer and so we welcome you to headlines
- 24:33Speaker 6: brought to You Vy Frostbrewed. Corps Like we'll start with
- 24:36Speaker 6: The Mariners MARINERS tv with a call OF Jp crawford's
- 24:39Speaker 6: home run last.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Night aaron And dave on the.
- 24:41Speaker 6: Call that was the only two runs that The mariners
- 24:44Speaker 6: had Against Bryce elder And company and The Atlanta. Braves
- 24:48Speaker 6: they jumped out to that to nothing, lead but two
- 24:50Speaker 6: run inning allowed By George kirby in the top of the,
- 24:55Speaker 6: fourth even though To george's, defense and he'll tell you, HIMSELF.
- 24:59Speaker 1: I didn't give up any, contact, right it was all, crap.
- 25:02Speaker 6: And so they tied, it and Then Matt olsen with
- 25:05Speaker 6: a solo home. Run he's the hottest hitter in the
- 25:07Speaker 6: sport right now off Of Andres munnos in the ninth,
- 25:11Speaker 6: inning and that holds up three to two the final.
- 25:13Speaker 6: Score mariners get just three hits on the night, score
- 25:17Speaker 6: just the two. Runs and we can talk about all
- 25:19Speaker 6: other things about The, mariners but they're seventeen and twenty
- 25:22Speaker 6: because they have not.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Hit the baseball this year, period end of.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Story and so they still have a shot at winning
- 25:29Speaker 6: a series against The Atlanta, braves who have not lost
- 25:32Speaker 6: the series all season. Long they will play this afternoon one.
- 25:36Speaker 6: O'clock it'll Be brian wu for the good. Guys going
- 25:39Speaker 6: for The Atlanta braves will Be Martine. Perez that's. Right their,
- 25:43Speaker 6: Manager Walt, weiss he knows what's. Up they knows The
- 25:47Speaker 6: mariners don't hit left handed, pitching so he's scrapping, long
- 25:51Speaker 6: goofy Haired Grant holmes from his starting rotation this time,
- 25:56Speaker 6: around and he's replacing him for The, mariners and specifically
- 25:59Speaker 6: for The, mariners with veteran left Hander Martine. Perez so
- 26:03Speaker 6: one ten is your first. Pitch and speaking of, pitchers
- 26:07Speaker 6: we will talk To Bill kruger here in a little
- 26:09Speaker 6: bit about pitchers for The, mariners because there are a
- 26:12Speaker 6: lot of interesting. Stories Kyl, rawby by the, way returned
- 26:14Speaker 6: to the lineup last. Night didn't look very, good oh
- 26:17Speaker 6: for four with three strikeouts and the batting averages down
- 26:19Speaker 6: at one pint, eighty but obviously felt healthy enough to
- 26:23Speaker 6: give it a go last. NIGHT i wouldn't be surprised
- 26:26Speaker 6: if he's out of the lineup again. Today then you
- 26:28Speaker 6: give him a day, off your natural day, off and
- 26:31Speaker 6: then maybe he's back behind the Plate friday night In
- 26:34Speaker 6: chicago against The White.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Sox but we'll see how he feels.
- 26:37Speaker 6: Today Bryce, miller it's going to start For everett tonight
- 26:42Speaker 6: and it could be his last ramp up start before
- 26:45Speaker 6: rejoining The, mariners or they might have him.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Throw one more outing In.
- 26:50Speaker 6: Tacoma And Brendan donovan has started his reab. PROCESS i
- 26:54Speaker 6: guess he hit a ball one hundred and nine miles
- 26:56Speaker 6: per hour and one of his at, bats so.
- 26:58Speaker 1: He couldn't be too far.
- 26:59Speaker 6: Away so we'll hopefully see all three of those guys
- 27:03Speaker 6: healthy in A mariners lineup. SOON Nhl lottery last, night
- 27:07Speaker 6: The craken ended up with the seventh. Pick the number
- 27:10Speaker 6: one pick goes to The Toronto Maple. Leafs The Stanley
- 27:14Speaker 6: cup playoffs saw The Colorado avalanche win five to two
- 27:17Speaker 6: over The Minnesota. Wild they have scored fourteen goals in
- 27:20Speaker 6: two games in this. Series they are up two Oh
- 27:24Speaker 6: montreal At. Buffalo game one is. Tonight anaheim At Los.
- 27:27Speaker 6: Vegas game two is, tonight With vegas up one to
- 27:30Speaker 6: OH Nba. Playoffs The thunder over The lakers one o
- 27:33Speaker 6: eight to Ninety sga scored only eighteen. Points it's the
- 27:37Speaker 6: only time this SEASON i think he's not scored twenty
- 27:40Speaker 6: or more, points and yet The thunders still roll Over
- 27:43Speaker 6: lebron and The. Lakers detroit has started their season with
- 27:47Speaker 6: a ten point or their series with a ten point
- 27:49Speaker 6: win Over cleveland one eleven to one oh. One, tonight
- 27:52Speaker 6: you'll Have sixers At. Knicks you will Have timberwolves At.
- 27:55Speaker 6: Spurs THE wnba will debut its brand new season on.
- 27:59Speaker 6: Five The storm will be a part of. That they'll
- 28:02Speaker 6: host The valkyrize On friday. Night and in The National Football,
- 28:05Speaker 6: league The seahawks have Signed Dante fowler junior thirty one
- 28:09Speaker 6: soon to be thirty two year old edge, rusher formerly
- 28:13Speaker 6: of The Dallas cowboys and many other, stops but they've
- 28:16Speaker 6: signed him to a one year max five million dollar
- 28:19Speaker 6: contract for the upcoming. Season and ALSO nfl refs have
- 28:23Speaker 6: reached an agreement with The National Football, league so you
- 28:26Speaker 6: can vary any thoughts of replacement refs at any point
- 28:30Speaker 6: in twenty twenty.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Six all, right let's talk To Bill.
- 28:34Speaker 6: Kerger it has been way too long SINCE i have
- 28:37Speaker 6: talked to the proud son of mc, Menville.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Oregon joining us on the.
- 28:43Speaker 6: Program the left, hander one of the most knowledgeable pitching
- 28:47Speaker 6: minds out, There Bill, krueger is with us right here
- 28:50Speaker 6: On chuck And. Buck how are, you?
- 28:51Speaker 4: Sir Good.
- 28:54Speaker 11: Chuck you Know midwestern.
- 28:55Speaker 12: Ties you know we never lose one another's that's what
- 28:59Speaker 12: good day too from The. Midwest, Right but you set
- 29:02Speaker 12: the bar, high that's. OKAY i want to reach high
- 29:06Speaker 12: and deliver for.
- 29:07Speaker 6: You, Okay i'm setting it high, there you, know AND
- 29:10Speaker 6: i have every confidence in. You where are you off?
- 29:13Speaker 6: To you're driving somewhere this. Morning where are you off?
- 29:15Speaker 12: To i'm looking for a good place to. Stop i'm
- 29:20Speaker 12: just a little off my. Schedule but, Yeah i'm just
- 29:23Speaker 12: working my way into my first. Meeting SO i apologize
- 29:27Speaker 12: for that. WORRY i should be uh the off the
- 29:31Speaker 12: pedal here.
- 29:31Speaker 6: Shortly no, Worries no worries at. ALL i got a
- 29:34Speaker 6: lot of things to discuss with. You we got a
- 29:35Speaker 6: lot of pitching things to discuss with, you, mainly and
- 29:39Speaker 6: so let's dive into. It AND i want to start
- 29:41Speaker 6: on the back. End let's start with the. CLOSER i
- 29:44Speaker 6: keep Defending Andre's. MUNOS i don't see anything terribly wrong with,
- 29:48Speaker 6: him but the results obviously have not been the. Same
- 29:51Speaker 6: what do you see out Of munios that is allowing
- 29:55Speaker 6: him to have a SIX E R a at this
- 29:58Speaker 6: point in the.
- 29:58Speaker 12: Year, well given up five runs in Two thursday and
- 30:03Speaker 12: any against us The padres and then awful. Collapse you
- 30:06Speaker 12: put a five spot on a guy that, pitches you,
- 30:09Speaker 12: know one inning three times a, week and it takes
- 30:11Speaker 12: a while for that to wing itself off of your E.
- 30:14Speaker 12: R So i'll say That andres has never been a
- 30:18Speaker 12: guy that h has pinpoint. Control he wins with incredible movement,
- 30:23Speaker 12: velocity and, uh that's what he wins. With AND i,
- 30:27Speaker 12: think what's what's? HAPPENING a little, bit it's a little
- 30:29Speaker 12: bit Of murphy's, Law but BUT i think.
- 30:33Speaker 11: You, know the league is, changing.
- 30:35Speaker 12: And, uh by, THAT i mean in the last two
- 30:38Speaker 12: years since they've taken away the.
- 30:40Speaker 11: Rover if you played, softball you know what the rover.
- 30:44Speaker 12: Is that's the guy that's that that in baseball stood
- 30:46Speaker 12: in right, center and baseball sort of, said, okay well.
- 30:50Speaker 11: We're just not gonna have as many left hand hitters
- 30:51Speaker 11: in our. Lineup, well the rover is.
- 30:53Speaker 12: Gone and if you watch the, lineups the marriages have
- 30:55Speaker 12: been seeing more and more stacked with left handed.
- 30:59Speaker 11: Hitters AND i think still munos.
- 31:02Speaker 12: IS i think they're hitting like two eighty off of
- 31:04Speaker 12: them and slugging like five point fifty left. Handers and
- 31:07Speaker 12: he's giving up both of his home runs against left.
- 31:09Speaker 12: Handers his slider is not as good against left, handers
- 31:13Speaker 12: and his changeup is not a pitch that he really
- 31:15Speaker 12: really believes in to give him something to upset his
- 31:18Speaker 12: fastball against left hand.
- 31:19Speaker 11: Hitters he has a tendency to.
- 31:22Speaker 12: Fall hard toward, first so he has a hard time
- 31:25Speaker 12: taking that slider and landing it like on the outside
- 31:29Speaker 12: corner or bringing in off the outside corner a left
- 31:32Speaker 12: hand hitter because of the fact that he flies open so. Hard,
- 31:36Speaker 12: now should he work on his? Mechanics, SURE i think
- 31:39Speaker 12: he needs a little. Timing he needs to stay a little,
- 31:41Speaker 12: closed a little, longer to allow him to have better
- 31:46Speaker 12: command of his slider and his fastball in.
- 31:49Speaker 11: General BUT i think.
- 31:51Speaker 12: Figuring out left handed hitters is going to be really
- 31:55Speaker 12: critical to. Him he's the league's never hit, Him he's
- 31:58Speaker 12: never given up, homers had a tendency to walk a.
- 32:01Speaker 12: Few i'm not horribly worried about. HIM i think the
- 32:04Speaker 12: numbers stare at you because of the Five spoty gave
- 32:07Speaker 12: up in that meltdown game where everything went.
- 32:09Speaker 4: WRONG i, mean.
- 32:10Speaker 12: Flay of, fish file ay of, fish you, know butcher boy,
- 32:14Speaker 12: chopper you, KNOW i, mean it went all wrong for.
- 32:17Speaker 12: Him but he's not as good as he should be
- 32:20Speaker 12: or can. Be but as long as he's, HEALTHY i
- 32:24Speaker 12: think we're still looking at the, glass you, know class half.
- 32:27Speaker 11: Full things will get.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Better, Yeah i'm with you one hundred. Percent Bill krueger
- 32:30Speaker 1: is with.
- 32:31Speaker 6: Us what About Louis castillo, though any concern there that
- 32:34Speaker 6: he might not come out of these early season, Struggles.
- 32:39Speaker 12: Well we seen it before a couple of years. Ago
- 32:41Speaker 12: he really ready couldn't get any left handedhators.
- 32:44Speaker 11: Out and you, know you look at the body of.
- 32:46Speaker 12: Work three years on eighty, eatings thirty, starts three and
- 32:51Speaker 12: a half, era and it just doesn't seem to.
- 32:54Speaker 11: Matter it's almost like.
- 32:55Speaker 12: Clockwork is is he the same guy that The mariner's,
- 32:58Speaker 12: got you, know four years or whatever it was the
- 33:01Speaker 12: playoff the second after that one. Season, Yeah, no he
- 33:05Speaker 12: doesn't have ninety nine in his back pocket. Anymore so
- 33:08Speaker 12: he doesn't he doesn't have it every day to win
- 33:11Speaker 12: above the. Line and his last, start he had that
- 33:15Speaker 12: juice the first four innings and then you, know he
- 33:17Speaker 12: lost the. Count he, walked he hit a, guy and you,
- 33:20Speaker 12: know defense maybe a little little shaky and they ain't
- 33:24Speaker 12: got away from.
- 33:25Speaker 11: Him but when.
- 33:26Speaker 12: He does lose the, count and again we're talking about
- 33:31Speaker 12: league is, stacked and it's not his, strength right HE'S i,
- 33:34Speaker 12: mean he just wipes out righties for the most, part
- 33:37Speaker 12: because his slider's a much better pitch against.
- 33:39Speaker 4: Them he just owns.
- 33:40Speaker 12: Righties so the answer, Is i'm not really worried about.
- 33:45Speaker 11: HIM i think that he will be.
- 33:47Speaker 12: OKAY i don't think eighty percent fastball is like the game.
- 33:51Speaker 12: PLAN i don't know What peralta had been told before the,
- 33:53Speaker 12: game but you can put more than number one. Down of,
- 33:56Speaker 12: course we don't use fingers. Anymore, yeah he throw it
- 34:00Speaker 12: too many. Fastballs he's got to throw his change up.
- 34:02Speaker 12: More IF i Were Pete woodworth In, LUIS i would
- 34:06Speaker 12: pull up That Cincinnati reds tape when he was Like
- 34:08Speaker 12: Mario Soto junior had a change up that was one of.
- 34:12Speaker 11: The best in The National. League we don't see that
- 34:13Speaker 11: change up.
- 34:14Speaker 12: Anymore what he had that must have had more depth on,
- 34:17Speaker 12: it something that had a little bit more, movement a
- 34:20Speaker 12: little more speed kill from his, fastball which is more
- 34:23Speaker 12: important now than ever because he doesn't throw his Hard
- 34:26Speaker 12: he needs that. Pitch he needs that change. Up he
- 34:28Speaker 12: needs it to, lefties he needs to work on, it
- 34:31Speaker 12: and he needs to throw it. More he needs to throw,
- 34:32Speaker 12: it you, know and just throw it early in the.
- 34:35Speaker 12: Count just get it in your, repertoire start using it,
- 34:38Speaker 12: more playing catch with it. MORE i think because his
- 34:41Speaker 12: fastball is not gonna get, better he's gonna have better.
- 34:43Speaker 4: Days you.
- 34:43Speaker 12: Know The yankee gamer in the, season and he had the,
- 34:45Speaker 12: big explosive, fastball and he just took names this last.
- 34:49Speaker 12: Start he had it going. On but you, know LIKE i,
- 34:51Speaker 12: said one bad inning kind of foiled.
- 34:52Speaker 11: Him so the.
- 34:54Speaker 12: Answer, IS i still believe he's a quality.
- 34:57Speaker 11: Starter in this.
- 34:57Speaker 12: LEAGUE i think he's got really good comp and just
- 35:01Speaker 12: make a little change in your. Repertoire you gotta throw
- 35:04Speaker 12: some more some more off speed. Stuff you got to
- 35:06Speaker 12: throw your change up.
- 35:07Speaker 6: More, well let's get to the million dollar question than
- 35:10Speaker 6: here in, town and it's A there are a lot of.
- 35:12Speaker 6: Problems there are a lot of problems with The. Mariners
- 35:14Speaker 6: this is actually a good. Problem they have too many starting.
- 35:17Speaker 6: Pitchers Once Bryce miller gets activated from the injury, listen
- 35:20Speaker 6: AND i just saw him last night and he looks
- 35:22Speaker 6: like physically phenomenal right, Now.
- 35:25Speaker 1: So what do you?
- 35:26Speaker 6: Do what do you do with the rotation Once Bryce
- 35:29Speaker 6: miller proves That i'm ready to rejoin the.
- 35:32Speaker 12: Roster, well sometimes when we played the old game of
- 35:37Speaker 12: musical chairs and music, stops and you don't have a,
- 35:39Speaker 12: chair and it's not. Fair he's had a year of
- 35:45Speaker 12: injury and, inconsistency while someone that was near his draft
- 35:51Speaker 12: class is zoomed ahead of him and belongs to the.
- 35:54Speaker 12: Rotation That's Emerson. Hancock he's not leaving the. Rotation he's
- 35:58Speaker 12: pitching too. Good he's made some nice Adjunction Smith's, Uh
- 36:01Speaker 12: he's arguably our best starter right now based upon, this,
- 36:05Speaker 12: this this sample, size and that's horribly. Exciting when we
- 36:08Speaker 12: start talking about why to be excited about marin or,
- 36:11Speaker 12: baseball that's one of.
- 36:12Speaker 4: Them.
- 36:12Speaker 12: Yeah, Okay so if it were, me and it's Not
- 36:17Speaker 12: i'm your armchair, GUY i got no. PRESSURE i would
- 36:21Speaker 12: put him in the bullpens because he he could be
- 36:23Speaker 12: a guy in the middle of the game that could
- 36:24Speaker 12: really help this. Team they're short in the. Bullpens they're.
- 36:27Speaker 12: Short they're short, anyway even with their their their quartet down,
- 36:32Speaker 12: there they need another arm if they're going TO readi
- 36:34Speaker 12: compete the way the baseball's, play the way The mariners
- 36:37Speaker 12: play it close to the, vests cut it into. Pieces
- 36:39Speaker 12: even with our starting. Pitching Albeit gilbert went six oh
- 36:44Speaker 12: by the, way he won the. Game what a novel.
- 36:46Speaker 12: Thing and you kept your pitch count down you. Won,
- 36:49Speaker 12: yeah that's how you. Win keep your pitch count. Down that's.
- 36:51Speaker 12: More pitching innings and staying in longer is more important
- 36:54Speaker 12: than how many strikeouts you get my, Opinion but getting
- 36:59Speaker 12: to your, POINT i put him in. BULLPEN i think
- 37:00Speaker 12: he could be a real. Weapon he certainly replaces he
- 37:03Speaker 12: could Replace. Brash maybe Not, brash Because brash has been
- 37:08Speaker 12: there and done. That but you're gonna put ninety eight
- 37:10Speaker 12: with some equipment down there and a guy with a
- 37:12Speaker 12: cool is a cool customer and he's relieved.
- 37:14Speaker 11: Before that's WHERE i put. Him it's a hard.
- 37:17Speaker 12: Conversation it's a hard conversation to tell him that he's
- 37:20Speaker 12: not going to be in the. Rotation but you're gonna
- 37:22Speaker 12: have to, say, look we have a championship quality team.
- 37:24Speaker 12: Here do you want to contribute to being a championship.
- 37:27Speaker 12: Team you're never going to be lost as a. Starter
- 37:30Speaker 12: we still believe in you as a. Starter but right
- 37:32Speaker 12: now that's where we need. You that's the conversation for,
- 37:36Speaker 12: Me that's that's Where i'm.
- 37:38Speaker 6: Headed, yeah AND i DON'T i think That maybe that's
- 37:42Speaker 6: that's an idea That i've entertained on the airwaves and
- 37:45Speaker 6: for the reasons that you've mapped, out especially Since brash went,
- 37:48Speaker 6: Down but the way they're stretching him out every single,
- 37:52Speaker 6: outing it doesn't feel like that's what they're going to.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Do what do you?
- 37:56Speaker 6: THINK i know what you, THINK i know what you
- 37:58Speaker 6: would to. Do what do you think they will?
- 38:00Speaker 8: Do?
- 38:02Speaker 12: Well i'm not a believer in six. Man that's the
- 38:05Speaker 12: that's the easy way. Out that's, that and that's not.
- 38:08Speaker 12: Good you, think, oh, well that's. Great you, know everybody
- 38:10Speaker 12: gets their, turn everybody gets the. Ribbon, Yay, no we're
- 38:13Speaker 12: playing to. Win, okay five man. Rotation you got good,
- 38:17Speaker 12: Pitching you want your pitching to your best pitchers to
- 38:19Speaker 12: come around more.
- 38:20Speaker 4: Often.
- 38:21Speaker 12: GRANTED i think in the back of their head they, go,
- 38:23Speaker 12: wow this is really great because we worry about. Wu
- 38:26Speaker 12: you can't have Another Tommy. John he's got those funky.
- 38:28Speaker 12: Mechanics we worry about. Him blah blah. Blah another day
- 38:31Speaker 12: arrest For. Louise, oh that's a good. Idea maybe you'll
- 38:33Speaker 12: have more juice now you. Can you can convince yourself
- 38:36Speaker 12: that's a good.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Idea.
- 38:39Speaker 12: Uh and so, yeah, yeah it could be a six man.
- 38:43Speaker 12: Rotation uh are you gonna eat twenty three? Million are
- 38:45Speaker 12: you gonna Put Louis castillo in the? BULLPEN i don't think.
- 38:48Speaker 12: So twenty three MILLION i believe next year as well For.
- 38:51Speaker 4: Castillo.
- 38:52Speaker 12: Yep, Yeah so unless something really horribly sideways goes because
- 38:58Speaker 12: the other the other play Is castillo has another sideways
- 39:01Speaker 12: one and then they come up with that interesting kind
- 39:05Speaker 12: of arm. FATIGUE i l and what that means basically
- 39:09Speaker 12: is we're just pulling the plug on. You maybe you
- 39:11Speaker 12: need a little, rest, regroup and we'll revisit in a
- 39:15Speaker 12: couple of.
- 39:15Speaker 4: Weeks he.
- 39:17Speaker 12: DOESN'T i don't think he's gonna go for. That, so,
- 39:21Speaker 12: Yeah i'm building him up is not a bad. THING i,
- 39:22Speaker 12: mean it's, uh you, know he gets gets to touch his,
- 39:26Speaker 12: pitches he gets arm. Strength, YEAH i don't think that
- 39:30Speaker 12: pitching him more in that and keeping him going that
- 39:33Speaker 12: way is it is a bad idea because anything can
- 39:35Speaker 12: happen to the spur of the, moment, hangnail an, injury
- 39:39Speaker 12: something changes before he's ready to.
- 39:40Speaker 11: Go so keep.
- 39:42Speaker 12: Kids don't make that decision until you have. To But
- 39:44Speaker 12: i'm sure they're having the conversation that you AND i
- 39:46Speaker 12: are having right now for.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Weeks.
- 39:50Speaker 12: Right so there you, go six man. ROTATION i don't like.
- 39:53Speaker 12: It luis the arm. FATIGUE i l, wow will he like?
- 39:58Speaker 12: That louisa the. Bullpen i'd rather Have Bryce miller in the.
- 40:01Speaker 4: Bullpen you.
- 40:02Speaker 12: Know the argument, Is, bryce you haven't been good in
- 40:04Speaker 12: the last, Year you've been. Hurt we haven't able to
- 40:06Speaker 12: count on, Yet so this is where we where we.
- 40:09Speaker 12: Go you could be a weapon down there for. Us
- 40:11Speaker 12: that's WHERE i.
- 40:12Speaker 6: Beheaded, uh Explain Emerson hancock's success this. Year you've done
- 40:16Speaker 6: plenty of evaluation of him over the years where he
- 40:19Speaker 6: wasn't quite getting where they thought he could. Be and
- 40:22Speaker 6: now all of a, sudden as you, mentioned he's been
- 40:24Speaker 6: our best pitcher so far this. Season why the? Turnaround
- 40:27Speaker 6: as far as you can.
- 40:28Speaker 12: See he's he's he clearly has some. Metal and he
- 40:34Speaker 12: you know the fact that he was a number one
- 40:36Speaker 12: pick and has had you, know been be set by
- 40:40Speaker 12: arm injury in the minor, leagues and he fell behind
- 40:43Speaker 12: his draft, class and and then he got a couple
- 40:46Speaker 12: of you, know decent. Auditions but as soon as he
- 40:49Speaker 12: as soon as he, tripped he was out of the,
- 40:51Speaker 12: rotation and he just sorted, Said i've got to make a.
- 40:54Speaker 12: Change something's got to. Change, uh my fastball change up
- 40:58Speaker 12: is not good enough with a mediocre. Slider so he
- 41:01Speaker 12: dropped his. Arm angle of fuzz and the. Upshoot game
- 41:04Speaker 12: is the.
- 41:04Speaker 4: Game.
- 41:05Speaker 12: Now we were always, Taught, chuck And i'm sure when
- 41:07Speaker 12: you were growing, up, hey get on top of the,
- 41:09Speaker 12: baseball throw the baseball, downhill the bats on the blobb of.
- 41:13Speaker 12: Plane you want to be going downhill toward the. Plate,
- 41:15Speaker 12: well that's still, good but in today's, game with the
- 41:18Speaker 12: taller strike, zone the upshoot. Works so he's got that
- 41:22Speaker 12: little upshoot just Like wo, does not quite Like, wu
- 41:25Speaker 12: not quite Like, castillo but the idea that you kind
- 41:28Speaker 12: of kind of give the illusion that your ball's coming
- 41:30Speaker 12: in and it's just above the plane of the. Bat
- 41:33Speaker 12: and then he's got this frisbee slider that's suddenly giving
- 41:36Speaker 12: him some spin that he didn't, have and it also
- 41:39Speaker 12: gives him a speed changer and a lane.
- 41:40Speaker 11: Changer he didn't have either of.
- 41:42Speaker 12: Those so he's throwing this thing seventy three to eighty
- 41:45Speaker 12: and he throws his fastball in the mid. Nineties he's
- 41:47Speaker 12: still got the change up and he's getting smart like
- 41:51Speaker 12: people are are WHAT wu hasn't. Done And kaz lead
- 41:55Speaker 12: with that mediocre, slider lead with the change, up mix
- 41:58Speaker 12: it in and he he's done that and showed some
- 42:01Speaker 12: real smarts on. That and then he can just you,
- 42:04Speaker 12: know hit that top line and, uh you, know he's
- 42:08Speaker 12: he's he's.
- 42:09Speaker 11: Showing to me that this is this is to.
- 42:12Speaker 12: Stay, YEAH i, mean still gonna have a challenge because
- 42:15Speaker 12: the league is left handed and he is a flat armed,
- 42:18Speaker 12: guy so that's always going to be a bit of a.
- 42:20Speaker 12: Problem he threw his slurvey whatever you want to call,
- 42:23Speaker 12: it to the. Left he's better this last start Against Kansas. City,
- 42:27Speaker 12: uh and he hasn't hit the ball like In Bull.
- 42:29Speaker 12: Durham he hasn't hit the ball and won the.
- 42:31Speaker 11: State he didn't do that last.
- 42:32Speaker 12: Game he's usually good for one of those a, game you,
- 42:34Speaker 12: know so because it's a hard pitch to, manage throwing
- 42:37Speaker 12: it like that and swinging it all the way across
- 42:39Speaker 12: the plate like he. Does but, Yeah I'm i'm, Uh
- 42:42Speaker 12: i'm excited for. Him and, uh he's shown great. Metal
- 42:45Speaker 12: he's got talent and h he wants to be he
- 42:47Speaker 12: wants to be, great which is. Fantastic and you, know
- 42:50Speaker 12: when you look at this, team as much as we
- 42:53Speaker 12: are disappointed and they are banged, up you, Know i'll
- 42:56Speaker 12: tell you. What you got an everyday second basement and
- 42:59Speaker 12: you got a middle to the upper end of the
- 43:01Speaker 12: rotation starter in a. Month and you could have said
- 43:04Speaker 12: that before the season. Started SO i kind of, think
- 43:08Speaker 12: as things are not where they should, be that's that's,
- 43:11Speaker 12: great and that gives you a lot of hope as
- 43:14Speaker 12: we start to figure that the guys that we expect
- 43:17Speaker 12: to hit are going to, hit and the guys that
- 43:19Speaker 12: are going to get healthy are going to be, healthy
- 43:21Speaker 12: and they're going to be.
- 43:22Speaker 6: Better, YEP i, agree all, right in our last minute
- 43:25Speaker 6: that we HAVE i want to exqueeze one more thing
- 43:27Speaker 6: and we appreciate.
- 43:28Speaker 1: It how much should we read into.
- 43:31Speaker 6: A first year professional pitcher dominating DOUBLE. A.
- 43:38Speaker 12: Well it's. Not it's not a brand new. Story we
- 43:41Speaker 12: just didn't cover the DOUBLE. A, guys you know number
- 43:45Speaker 12: one picks pitching the DOUBLE a and you, know going
- 43:47Speaker 12: back to you, know the beginning of, time guys have
- 43:50Speaker 12: been straight out of college, dominant go To DOUBLE a, dominate.
- 43:54Speaker 11: And they don't go straight to the big.
- 43:55Speaker 12: Leagues of, course we don't require you, know five hundred datings.
- 43:59Speaker 4: Anymore SO.
- 44:02Speaker 12: I think it's good for him to be a, pro
- 44:04Speaker 12: be a, pro you, know learn to be a. Pro
- 44:07Speaker 12: you've been a college, pitcher you've been high school, pitcher
- 44:09Speaker 12: and learn to be a pro and you, know, hopefully not,
- 44:12Speaker 12: HOPEFULLY i mean getting some different. SITUATIONS i don't know
- 44:15Speaker 12: if that means going To TRIPLE a to maybe face
- 44:18Speaker 12: an older, hitter wouldn't be such a bad. THING i
- 44:23Speaker 12: just don't think he's quite got the inner in he's
- 44:25Speaker 12: under his, belt and the club doesn't really have a
- 44:28Speaker 12: spot for him right. Now so whether that it sort
- 44:33Speaker 12: of becomes like obvious that they're. Short, look do they
- 44:38Speaker 12: need a left handed?
- 44:39Speaker 4: Starter?
- 44:39Speaker 12: Absolutely have we watched left hand hitting kind of make
- 44:42Speaker 12: it tough for us and we end up having to
- 44:45Speaker 12: make changes in the middle of the, game which is
- 44:47Speaker 12: really what's Made dan have his ups and downs Because,
- 44:52Speaker 12: chuck he used to be the seventh and eighth and
- 44:55Speaker 12: maybe the, ninth that's when the pinch hitting. Happened now
- 44:58Speaker 12: the pin chating happens in the fifth and the sixth
- 45:00Speaker 12: because starters are out of pitches and the game is
- 45:03Speaker 12: either going to go one way or the. Other either
- 45:06Speaker 12: either you score and you bring in your good, guys
- 45:09Speaker 12: or you don't and they bring in their good. Guys
- 45:11Speaker 12: that's why the fifth and sixth become this moment of
- 45:13Speaker 12: truth and end up having to like wear it if
- 45:16Speaker 12: you make the switch and then those guys have to
- 45:18Speaker 12: come back around.
- 45:19Speaker 11: Again now you got a bad riding in No, raley
- 45:21Speaker 11: no can.
- 45:22Speaker 4: Zone so.
- 45:24Speaker 12: Left handed pitching would WOULD i mean they went and Got.
- 45:27Speaker 12: SQUAREZ i, mean they're they realized they need more left handed,
- 45:29Speaker 12: pitching but having a left handed, starter and if you're
- 45:32Speaker 12: you're serious about the, playoffs that's where it could be.
- 45:34Speaker 12: Interesting you bring him up In september and, uh you,
- 45:39Speaker 12: know making qualify for the, playoffs and then maybe he
- 45:41Speaker 12: can be a guns of blazer and lefty because you
- 45:44Speaker 12: know you're gonna have to face some teams with some
- 45:46Speaker 12: deep left.
- 45:47Speaker 11: Hand hitting and you could have him in your. Rotation
- 45:49Speaker 11: I'M i don't think it's. Now i'm pretty sure about.
- 45:51Speaker 4: That.
- 45:52Speaker 1: Right, well you've met the.
- 45:53Speaker 6: Bar not only have you met the, Bar Bill, krueger
- 45:55Speaker 6: you have exceeded the. Bar you cleared it by a.
- 45:58Speaker 6: Foot we can actually ray's the bar the next time
- 46:01Speaker 6: we have you on because you had so much clearance
- 46:04Speaker 6: of the.
- 46:04Speaker 12: Bar just think IF i could learn The fosbury. Flop
- 46:08Speaker 12: i'm doing The western role right.
- 46:09Speaker 11: Now, YEAH i can learn The fosbury.
- 46:12Speaker 6: Flop it's very it's a very, uncomfortable awkward thing to start,
- 46:16Speaker 6: with but it really will benefit you in the long.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Run All, Right, bill thank you very.
- 46:24Speaker 11: Much All, right have a good.
- 46:27Speaker 1: One all, Right Bill krueger joining us right.
- 46:29Speaker 6: Here On chuck And buck and of course so you
- 46:31Speaker 6: can Hear bill on With softy In dick Every monday
- 46:34Speaker 6: courtesy Of Queen anne and also Occidental Beer. Hall and
- 46:38Speaker 6: so we appreciate him joining us here. Today it's been
- 46:41Speaker 6: too long since we've chatted With, bill and he really
- 46:44Speaker 6: can't break down pitching like few. Others that was fantastic.
- 46:47Speaker 6: STUFF i mean a lot of it's the thing that's
- 46:49Speaker 6: going the best is our starting. Pitching and yet think
- 46:52Speaker 6: about how many questions that we had to Have Bill
- 46:54Speaker 6: krueger answer for us. Today that was some fantastic. Stuff,
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- 47:31Speaker 1: For a second year in a. Row as we inched
- 47:34Speaker 1: closer and closer we feel in our hearts and loins to.
- 47:39Speaker 6: THE nba returning To, seattle we have decided to Ask
- 47:42Speaker 6: spencer owns to join us for the ENTIRE Nba playoffs
- 47:45Speaker 6: once per week to talk about and discuss what he
- 47:49Speaker 6: sees going down in THE nba, playoffs and so it
- 47:53Speaker 6: is time to talk with the local, legend THE u
- 47:57Speaker 6: dub former big man and long time what ten eleven
- 48:01Speaker 6: YEAR nba Veteran Spencer hawes now joins us year On
- 48:05Speaker 6: chuck And buck in the.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Morning hello, sir.
- 48:08Speaker 4: Good.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Morning now were you how many years were you in THE?
- 48:10Speaker 4: Nba? Ten?
- 48:13Speaker 1: Ten that's a good number right, there ten, years ten?
- 48:16Speaker 4: YEAR nba couldn't beat my?
- 48:18Speaker 1: Uncle oh how? Many did?
- 48:20Speaker 4: So he was?
- 48:21Speaker 1: ELEVEN i take it?
- 48:21Speaker 4: Then oh he was ten?
- 48:24Speaker 1: Tied oh you? Tied that's.
- 48:26Speaker 6: Fine you know you didn't need to have bragging rights
- 48:29Speaker 6: over Uncle, steve did?
- 48:30Speaker 4: YOU i was looking for. Him but in the car.
- 48:36Speaker 6: Ten, years that's a good. Run that's a that's a
- 48:38Speaker 6: good career right. There, well good to have you. On
- 48:41Speaker 6: thanks for being with, us so we appreciate. It have
- 48:43Speaker 6: you done anything fun to take advantage of this great
- 48:46Speaker 6: weather we're having here in the last week and a, half.
- 48:49Speaker 4: Played a lot of, golfs went to Watch moonos blow another,
- 48:52Speaker 4: game enjoyed the golf.
- 48:55Speaker 1: More were you there last?
- 48:57Speaker 4: NIGHT i was there a low now, okay.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i was there too as.
- 49:03Speaker 6: WELL i didn't run into, you, though and you're not
- 49:05Speaker 6: A you're not an easy guy to, overlook as it turns,
- 49:09Speaker 6: Out so we just didn't run in the same.
- 49:11Speaker 4: Circles, YEAH i was sitting in the what turned out
- 49:15Speaker 4: the brave section and they even got a little tomahawk
- 49:18Speaker 4: chalk going there play which you hate to see.
- 49:21Speaker 1: That, yeah that annoyed. You that annoyed the hell out of.
- 49:24Speaker 6: You, well they'll be. Fine he'll be. Fine don't worry About.
- 49:28Speaker 6: Mooney he'll be. Fine they'll be. Fine it's gonna be,
- 49:31Speaker 6: okay it's gonna be a fun, Summer, SPENCER i promise.
- 49:33Speaker 4: You so it's they always do, this so the optimistic.
- 49:40Speaker 1: They, do even when they're, good they still do this to.
- 49:43Speaker 6: Us all, Right, well let's talk SOME nba playoffs then
- 49:47Speaker 6: not there's another. SUBJECT i know you're not gonna, love
- 49:50Speaker 6: but The Oklahoma City thunder rolled through round number one
- 49:53Speaker 6: and it kind of feels like they're gonna roll through
- 49:56Speaker 6: round number two as. Well an eighteen point win over
- 49:59Speaker 6: The lakers last. Night do you see a scenario where
- 50:02Speaker 6: The lakers can upset The thunder.
- 50:06Speaker 4: If luca's hamstring magically. Heals but, no that's A i, mean,
- 50:12Speaker 4: yeah it pains me to say. It but The thunder
- 50:15Speaker 4: a really. Good. Yeah they're really, deep they're really. Balanced
- 50:20Speaker 4: they set the tone with their physicality on, defense and
- 50:24Speaker 4: they're flopping on offense and all, together it's a tough.
- 50:29Speaker 6: Nomination let's talk about flopping before we talk further about
- 50:34Speaker 6: since you brought it, up because it's become a big.
- 50:36Speaker 6: Topic Donovan mitchell was accused of. It Donovan mitchell was
- 50:40Speaker 6: angry that he was accused of. It, obviously it's had
- 50:43Speaker 6: a place in basketball for a long, time too big a.
- 50:47Speaker 6: Place if you ask me in THE, nba what are
- 50:49Speaker 6: your thoughts on flopping and how you could possibly get
- 50:53Speaker 6: rid of it in the?
- 50:54Speaker 3: Sport, OH i think it it almost immigrated here as
- 51:02Speaker 3: kind of A european uh, Specialty, uh you, know many years.
- 51:07Speaker 4: Ago and then you, know the offense always kind of
- 51:11Speaker 4: evolving quicker than. Defenses founded as a as a reliable
- 51:15Speaker 4: tool for, guys for scorers to implement ito their, games
- 51:20Speaker 4: AND i think you, know Hand floy years ago and
- 51:23Speaker 4: they made concerted effort where they started playing it and
- 51:26Speaker 4: finding guys and and really making a detrimental if you
- 51:30Speaker 4: if you cross the line with. It AND i don't
- 51:33Speaker 4: know what's happened where they kind of went away from.
- 51:36Speaker 4: THAT i don't know if there was some pushback by
- 51:39Speaker 4: the Players association or what, happened BUT i would like
- 51:42Speaker 4: to get. It i'd like to see you get back
- 51:44Speaker 4: to the point where there's some, uh you, know there's
- 51:47Speaker 4: some ways to try and disincentivize, it whether it be
- 51:52Speaker 4: without you, know a technical or a fine or whatever,
- 51:57Speaker 4: combination because it these guys are good, enough AND i
- 52:01Speaker 4: know that's always their account of. Lagument they DON'T i
- 52:04Speaker 4: don't need to flop to, score but it's obvious in
- 52:08Speaker 4: a lot of these, situations AND i think that's part
- 52:11Speaker 4: of what makes The thunder so, tough is they set
- 52:14Speaker 4: tone on defense with their physicality and kind of adhere
- 52:18Speaker 4: to the theory that you can't call. Everything we're going
- 52:21Speaker 4: to put the onus on the. Officials and then on
- 52:22Speaker 4: the other, end it obviously kind of starts With shay
- 52:27Speaker 4: and now they got everybody doing. It chets jumping backwards
- 52:30Speaker 4: into people on pump. Face it's just IT'S i don't
- 52:34Speaker 4: want to take away from from their, team their talent
- 52:37Speaker 4: and what they've. Accomplished but it's it's frustrating because they
- 52:41Speaker 4: don't need to do, it and yet they seem to continue.
- 52:44Speaker 4: To it's.
- 52:45Speaker 6: FUNNY i, mean you Remember Vladi. DEVOTS i mean that
- 52:48Speaker 6: was the guy that was most famous for, flopping and
- 52:51Speaker 6: everybody hated him for. Flopping and you really thought at
- 52:55Speaker 6: the time, that, oh, here we'll make an example out
- 52:59Speaker 6: of this guy and they'll get this curved in no.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Time he obviously don't want this to be a part
- 53:03Speaker 1: of the of THE.
- 53:04Speaker 6: Nba, Uh and it's almost like it had the reverse.
- 53:08Speaker 6: Effect it's like he inspired a generation and a half
- 53:13Speaker 6: of basketball players because it just happens way too much
- 53:17Speaker 6: in a game from way too many.
- 53:18Speaker 4: Teams spencer and there's there's a great example of a
- 53:22Speaker 4: guy that was more than talented. Enough, yeah you, know
- 53:26Speaker 4: if SOMEONE mi needs out there flopping to try and
- 53:28Speaker 4: steal an extra pair of free throws or, two that's.
- 53:31Speaker 4: Understandable but unlike Bloody, devots he's he's got too many
- 53:36Speaker 4: parros and the quiver to be doing. It BUT i
- 53:38Speaker 4: think you're. RIGHT i think it showed. That, uh you,
- 53:42Speaker 4: know it's a it's a viable way to draw fouls
- 53:44Speaker 4: and getting the bonus and get yourself free throws and
- 53:47Speaker 4: and you, know put the other players or the other
- 53:50Speaker 4: team's best players on the bench In South. Tuble, yeah it's.
- 53:53Speaker 6: Unfortunate spencer ass is with us when you Watch lebron play,
- 53:59Speaker 6: NOW i, mean he had twenty seven points in a
- 54:01Speaker 6: loss last, night but forty one years.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Old how impressed are.
- 54:06Speaker 6: You By Lebron james still being able to play at
- 54:10Speaker 6: this level at forty.
- 54:11Speaker 4: ONE i. AM i more and more impressed after Every
- 54:17Speaker 4: wednesday night game at The whack THAT i come home
- 54:20Speaker 4: On thursday and feel HOW i feel playing adult adult
- 54:23Speaker 4: men's rec. League it turned me into a. Fan i've
- 54:27Speaker 4: never been the biggest, fan but you have to appreciate
- 54:31Speaker 4: the way he prepares and the way that he's maintained
- 54:35Speaker 4: this level of excellence in the you, know now well
- 54:38Speaker 4: into two decades in THE, Nba BUT i THINK i
- 54:42Speaker 4: saw something a few years. Ago he came out and
- 54:45Speaker 4: played in The proium down AT stu and the game got.
- 54:48Speaker 4: Called it was actually the Game shit ended up hurting
- 54:51Speaker 4: his foot earlier in, it and the game got called
- 54:54Speaker 4: because there were too many people and the floor was.
- 54:57Speaker 4: Sweating it was, dangerous and everybody went downstairs and he
- 55:02Speaker 4: got to work out in with De jonte and watching
- 55:05Speaker 4: the way THAT i think that Was, july so you
- 55:07Speaker 4: still got a couple months before training. Camp the way
- 55:11Speaker 4: that he, trains the level of conditioning that he was
- 55:15Speaker 4: doing at that point of the offseason when not a
- 55:17Speaker 4: lot of guys are ramping up like, THAT i think
- 55:20Speaker 4: it gave me kind of a brief look Into, okay
- 55:23Speaker 4: this makes sense how this guy is able to maintain
- 55:28Speaker 4: that level of, performance and is you, know going into
- 55:32Speaker 4: his third third decade.
- 55:34Speaker 6: Playing who's playing you in a rec? Leage what kind
- 55:38Speaker 6: of a competitive rec league do you have if you're
- 55:42Speaker 6: playing and NOT i, mean are you is it other
- 55:47Speaker 6: FORMER nba? Players are you just walking out there and
- 55:49Speaker 6: beating up on you, know pipe fitters and third grade
- 55:52Speaker 6: teachers at the rec?
- 55:53Speaker 4: League steel And JJ's, quote there no shout out Big
- 55:57Speaker 4: solomon down at the. Whack solomon played THE nba for
- 56:00Speaker 4: a few. Years but, no we got a good little run.
- 56:02Speaker 4: Going but, okay it's a hard. Court it's a hard,
- 56:05Speaker 4: surface and you, know my old joints feel.
- 56:08Speaker 6: It, uh all, Right well let's talk about The Detroit,
- 56:12Speaker 6: Pistons Kate cunningham said that The Orlando magic made, him
- 56:16Speaker 6: made The pistons look in the mirror and dig a little,
- 56:19Speaker 6: deeper and since that time they've won four straight, games
- 56:22Speaker 6: including a ten point win last. Night how impressed are
- 56:27Speaker 6: you With Cad cunningham in the way that HE i,
- 56:31Speaker 6: mean he's just he's like an assassin out, there, uh
- 56:34Speaker 6: but that he can be that aware, that, hey we
- 56:38Speaker 6: we have to be better and why are why are
- 56:41Speaker 6: The Orlando magic checking?
- 56:42Speaker 4: Is why are?
- 56:42Speaker 1: They why are they beating up on us this?
- 56:45Speaker 6: Series and he can turn that as a leader that
- 56:48Speaker 6: series on a, dime just by a little more self.
- 56:50Speaker 1: Awareness, WELL i think.
- 56:53Speaker 4: THEY i think he and they collectively realized that they
- 56:56Speaker 4: were getting beat at their home game by a you,
- 56:59Speaker 4: know lesser talented opponent and play. Well it was a
- 57:04Speaker 4: wake up call for them, that you, know if they're
- 57:06Speaker 4: not if they're not playing with that level of physicality
- 57:10Speaker 4: and imparting their you, know their, will which is one
- 57:13Speaker 4: of the strengths of their, team on their, opponents they're
- 57:16Speaker 4: they're vulnerable because they don't have that shooting that every
- 57:20Speaker 4: other team that's that's left seems to rely on AND i,
- 57:23Speaker 4: think you, Know cade is making an argument to be
- 57:27Speaker 4: the best player still going in The, east AND i
- 57:30Speaker 4: think he woke, up the team woke, up and you,
- 57:33Speaker 4: know there's a reason they were the number one seed
- 57:35Speaker 4: in The. East they they did it over the course
- 57:37Speaker 4: of the. Season, obviously the playoffs, shift AND i think
- 57:40Speaker 4: it just might have taken them a little longer to
- 57:43Speaker 4: adjust to playoff basketball and what it takes to win
- 57:46Speaker 4: in the, playoffs being a younger team without having a
- 57:50Speaker 4: ton of experience in those.
- 57:51Speaker 6: Environments TALKING nba playoffs With Spencer hall's TENURE nba, veteran
- 57:56Speaker 6: and of course it's going to be joining us every
- 57:58Speaker 6: week throughout the playoffs to talk SOME nba. Playoffs so
- 58:02Speaker 6: how surprised are you that The Boston celtics have been
- 58:04Speaker 6: eliminated from this?
- 58:05Speaker 4: Thing surprised but not, SHOCKED i, THINK i, MEAN i don't,
- 58:12Speaker 4: know if you can put it better Than Joe mizzoula
- 58:15Speaker 4: did what what happened in that? Series they got him.
- 58:17Speaker 4: Beedback that was that was their weakness all. Year they
- 58:23Speaker 4: obviously tried at the deadline to to short up a little,
- 58:26Speaker 4: bit going out and trading for who they. Got you,
- 58:33Speaker 4: know they got up three to, one and then the
- 58:36Speaker 4: process woke. Up he got healthy. Enough it looks like
- 58:40Speaker 4: he's still learn a flat jacket out there with his
- 58:43Speaker 4: with his. Appendix but when you lived by the, three
- 58:47Speaker 4: you die by the. Three we all know, that AND
- 58:50Speaker 4: i think that, reliance especially given you know the position
- 58:57Speaker 4: they put themselves in this year and then coming back
- 59:00Speaker 4: in the playoffs and still kind of trying to figure
- 59:03Speaker 4: out the pecking horror Of Jalen green carrying them all
- 59:06Speaker 4: year or Not Jalen, Green Jalen, brown excuse, me And
- 59:09Speaker 4: tatum working his way back. In it just seemed like
- 59:12Speaker 4: that they didn't have enough time to kind of sort
- 59:16Speaker 4: that out and run into A philly team that was
- 59:19Speaker 4: desperate and got their best player back and kind of
- 59:22Speaker 4: playing for his legacy to a certain, extent and it
- 59:25Speaker 4: was the perfect formula to knock them out in the first.
- 59:28Speaker 6: Round do you think maybe that this may force some.
- 59:32Speaker 6: CHANGE i know a lot of basketball fans aren't in
- 59:36Speaker 6: love with THE nba right, now and one of the
- 59:39Speaker 6: reasons that they just shoot way too many. Threes AND
- 59:41Speaker 6: i think people do understand. That, analytically there was a
- 59:45Speaker 6: formula that suggested why they should be shooting more than
- 59:49Speaker 6: forty threes per. Game but with The celtics being eliminated
- 59:52Speaker 6: and The warriors barely a playoff, TEAM i, mean we're
- 59:57Speaker 6: are we possibly seeing a shift away from it in the.
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: Future are the warning signs there to get back to
- 1:00:05Speaker 6: a game that's a little more balanced and not so
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: reliant on chucking it up from three point?
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: LAND i hope. So AND i think you could Throw
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: cleveland in that in that camp as, well because when they're,
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: good they're making shots and they're fun to watch and
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: they're getting up and. Down but when they're, bad they
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: have stretches where, yeah, two, three four minutes where it
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: seems like they don't even you, know they'll have a
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: layup and kick it out for a for a. Three
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: SO i. Hope. So we discussed this. BEFORE i don't,
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: know you, know moving it back doesn't seem to be the.
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Answer we talked about winding the. Court that seems logistically
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: to be pretty, difficult but it. Is it's hard to.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: Watch it gets compounded in the, playoffs and IT'S i
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: think it's one of the reasons you see some of
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: these some of these spreads in these. Games you, know
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: The Knicks sixers the other. Night it's if you're not making,
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: them it can get, ugly and then the next game
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: you turn around and it could be a twenty to
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: thirty point game the other. Way.
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: Yeah, well now that The sixers have gotten past The
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: celtics at this, POINT i, MEAN i know they lost
- 1:01:14Speaker 6: by thirty nine to The, knicks BUT i still think
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: they're kind of. DANGEROUS i, mean win Of embiid And
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: Paul george been healthy at the same time during the,
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: Playoffs i'm not sure that that's ever. Happened and then
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: you add that, backcourt which is JUST i, mean it's
- 1:01:27Speaker 6: like a you, know a track meet breaks loose with
- 1:01:30Speaker 6: those two guys in the back.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: Court so even though.
- 1:01:33Speaker 6: They lost by thirty nine to The knicks In game number,
- 1:01:36Speaker 6: one do you give The sixers a shot to get
- 1:01:39Speaker 6: back into this series and possibly win?
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: IT i. DO i think that game was you need
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: to say a throwaway game in the playoffs or schedule
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: loss in the, playoffs because every game is so, Valuable
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: but coming off an Emotional game seven on the, road
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: not a lot of, rests guys that are obviously banged
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: up to begin, WITH i think that was to me
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: that was the most, predictable not a thirty nine point,
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: ross but that was the most predictable loss of the
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: start of the second. Round AND i think they probably
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: look at it, like all, right we you, know we
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: felt them. Out we kind of know what they're doing
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: a series of the start till someone wins on the,
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: Road so that, ONE i think that one was the
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: least surprising of the first kind of this early plate
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: getting into the.
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: Conference, Summis, yeah, YEAH i agree with that as. Well
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: and then that Lead spurs And. Timberwolves my, goodness was
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: that an entertaining?
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: Game number.
- 1:02:39Speaker 6: ONE i hope that's what we get for seven, games
- 1:02:42Speaker 6: because that was maybe the most Fun i've had watching
- 1:02:45Speaker 6: a basketball game in a, long long.
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: Time, Spencer, YEAH i had fun until till the final
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: buzzer when When julian wasn't able to make that step.
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: Three BUT i have no idea How Anthony edwards is
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: back playing. BASKETBALL i thought his knee exploded and we'd
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: be talking about seeing him by the end of the next.
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: Season but you, know to used the hell of a
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: drug and he's an incredible, athlete and credit to him
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: forgetting himself back out. There you, know he looked hobbled at,
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: times but he was able to hold it. Together And
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: minnesota is a tough matchup in the playoffs because you, Know,
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: colbert for all his, criticism is an all time defensive rint.
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: Protector AND i Thought Chris finch did an incredible job
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: in that second. Half first first half is a little
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: muddy and neither team was really making, shots but he
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: Put wemby in the action in the, third you, know
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: once coming out of, halftime AND i know he had
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: eleven or twelve, blocks but there were a lot of
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: a lot of plays late in that game where he
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: wasn't able to contest contest shots at the rin and
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: The wolves were able to take a dance if you's getting,
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: downhill and so that's a you, know credit to. Him
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: he kind of cooked that, up AND i, KNOW i
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: Know mitchell's gonna have some adjustments tonight to get that
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: series back on track for The.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: Spurs ashley AND i talked about this.
- 1:04:13Speaker 6: YESTERDAY i get your thoughts on it as, well BECAUSE
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: i think maybe the most unfair thing that a fan
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: or a talk show, host a loudmouth talk show host
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: can do to professional athletes is like question their toughness
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: or question whether or not they should play through an.
- 1:04:27Speaker 6: Injury we don't have the. Information it's not fair for
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: us to weigh in on. It somebody's career could be
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: on the. Line and yet you Watch Anthony edwards suit
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: up In game, one And Jason tatum not suit up
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: For game, seven And Kevin durant basically not suited up
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: at all in The lakers, series and it does get fans,
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: talking like you, know it does get, them you, know
- 1:04:51Speaker 6: weighing one against another and whether or not they want
- 1:04:55Speaker 6: it badly. Enough so how do you how do you
- 1:04:59Speaker 6: take all that in in and what would be your
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: message to the the loudmouth sports talk show host or
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: fan that is questioning things like will, desire hunger and.
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: Toughness So i'll give you an anecdote that BECAUSE i
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: WAS i was that, FAN i was that talk show.
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: HOST i don't know if you remember When Rishard lewis
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: hurt his toe in the. PLAYOFFS i think it was
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: like the four o five. Playoffs he had turf, toe
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: AND i remember just being so, like how can you your?
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: Toe how can you not shoot that? Up how can
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: you not? Play and then, uh that's one point in my,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: CAREER i ended up with turf tow AND i realized
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: pretty quickly it's it's hard to judge somebody when you
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: don't you haven't had, it or you don't know what
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: they're going. Through AND i think In tatum, situation if
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: if he was feeling, anything he wasn't going to play
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: with what he just gone. Through and then reports get
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: out that you, know it was some caf and and
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: coming off The, ACHILLES i think there's we've seen enough
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: examples of uh where the, cast where a cast string
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: goes in the, playoffs unfortunately way too much recently with
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: with stars going, down and So I've i've definitely shifted
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: my tone on on blaming guys for sitting, out whether
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: it's you, know it's hurt versus, injured load management versus
- 1:06:24Speaker 4: a legitimate, injury AND i think it's just they're too
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: important to the, Franchise they're taking too much money to
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: roll the dice on playing through something, that especially with
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: the you, know recently what we've seen with The achilles,
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: ACADEMIC i THINK i doubt there's many fans In boston
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: that are that are too disappointed that he didn't try
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: and put that one.
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: Out so more Of Anthony edwards was more reckless Than
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: Jason tatum was.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Soft that's ALL i.
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: Mean, obviously whatever whatever's conspired or whatever's happened between when
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: he heard it in that first round and, now he
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: feels the team if it were if it was still
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: that bad team wouldn't let him go out and. Play,
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: obviously whatever they've seen on energying and with the inflammation
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: and why, not it's at a point where collectively he
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: feels a lot enough to, play and maybe their medical
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: staff feels confident enough to learn out there and play through.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: It all.
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: Right, WELL i don't want to be heapocritical about, this
- 1:07:32Speaker 6: AND i don't want to be that, fan BUT i
- 1:07:34Speaker 6: think even though you're achy and sore From, wednesday you
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: need to suit up and play Next.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: WEDNESDAY i don't want to hear any.
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: Excuses you sound like my. Captain i'll work on, it.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: All, right.
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: Man thanks golden analysis From. Spencer, OH i appreciate.
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: You you got, it and Sorry rashard for being so hard
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: on you twenty years. AGO i take it. Back i'm
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: in a.
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: Mistake oh, well we learn our, way we grows, up
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: and we grows. Up, spencer.
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: All, Right spencer allus joining us right here On chuck
- 1:08:07Speaker 6: And buck in the, morning and we'll be doing that
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: every week With spencer throughout THE Nba. Playoffs two games,
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: Tonight sixers at the next The knicks up one oh
- 1:08:16Speaker 6: And timberwolves at The. Spurs the road team is up
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: one to zero in that, series and that really was
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- 1:08:25Speaker 6: is a fun interesting matchup.
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- 1:09:21Speaker 6: not necessarily be hung up on the results of last night's.
- 1:09:25Speaker 6: Game even though we are hung up on the results
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: of last night's game just a, bit a three to
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: two loss to The Atlanta, braves another game in which
- 1:09:33Speaker 6: our closer did not get the job. Done so let
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: us start with as For andres as In Andre's, Munnos and,
- 1:09:41Speaker 6: yes he's sitting there with a six era right.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Now he hasn't.
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: Blown a lot of saves this, year but kind of
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: feels like he's blown a lot of saves so far this.
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: Year is only two technically saves that he's blown to
- 1:09:55Speaker 6: this point in the, Season but last night he ends
- 1:09:58Speaker 6: up with the, loss his third of the season. ALREADY i,
- 1:10:01Speaker 6: mean he's not at his, Sharpest there's no question about.
- 1:10:05Speaker 6: It there's something a little bit wrong with the. Slider
- 1:10:08Speaker 6: he doesn't quite have the command of it that he wants.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: To i'm still not that. WORRIED i was.
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: Just asked last night By Dick faine during their pregame
- 1:10:17Speaker 6: show on The softy And fain radio, program where my
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: level of confidence is With andre S munos on a
- 1:10:24Speaker 6: scale from one to, ten AND i told him nine
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: and a half and maybe nine and a quarter now
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: after another blown opportunity last. Night but truth of the matter,
- 1:10:37Speaker 6: is there's nobody else THAT i would go with as
- 1:10:40Speaker 6: our closer at this. Point and he's been elite the
- 1:10:44Speaker 6: last couple of, years And i'm not looking at somebody
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: that looks like he's all that off of his. Game
- 1:10:51Speaker 6: he's fastball still around one hundred the average. FASTBALL i, mean,
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: PEOPLE i think some comments earlier this week on YouTubers
- 1:11:00Speaker 6: something about like ninety, nine the velocity's. Down, no, no it's.
- 1:11:03Speaker 6: Not his average velocity is below one.
- 1:11:06Speaker 7: Hundred he doesn't for one hundred every.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: Time, no he can get to one oh.
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: Two but his, AVERAGE i, mean Even Mason miller doesn't
- 1:11:13Speaker 6: have an average. Velocity i'm pretty sure over one hundred
- 1:11:16Speaker 6: miles per.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: Hour So Andre smuno's to be at ninety. Nine nothing wrong.
- 1:11:20Speaker 6: There he's got twenty five strikeouts and fifteen innings of.
- 1:11:23Speaker 6: Work that's a great strikeout. Rate he's allowed fewer than
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: one hit per. Inning which is. Fine he's walked a
- 1:11:31Speaker 6: few too, many and he doesn't have control of the,
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: slider and he doesn't quite have confidence in throwing that
- 1:11:36Speaker 6: two seamer or that change up that he's developed THAT
- 1:11:39Speaker 6: i think looks wicked at, times and so he's a
- 1:11:41Speaker 6: little bit off of his game last, NIGHT i think
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: that had a lot more to do With matt L
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: olsen being completely on his. Game this is a very
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: good hitter In Matt, olsen who is on a great
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: run right, now facing a very good to great closer
- 1:11:58Speaker 6: who's off his game a little, bit And olsen just beat.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: HIM i mean that was just a hell of a
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: swing By Matt.
- 1:12:06Speaker 6: Olson so my confidence level With andre's Munios ashley is
- 1:12:10Speaker 6: still incredibly.
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: HIGH i don't want anybody else to. Close i'm not
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: even considering anybody else closing at this.
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: Stage, YEAH i still feel confident that he can get
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: the job. DONE i will SAY i always get a
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: little nervous when there is because he. Does he has
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: in the, past and it has continues to make us
- 1:12:26Speaker 8: get a little nervous in the.
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: Night he'll get put some runners.
- 1:12:28Speaker 8: ON i, mean he makes things sometimes closer than it
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: has to, be but he gets the job done more
- 1:12:35Speaker 8: often than. NOT i think it's just a little bit
- 1:12:37Speaker 8: exaggerated right now, because as you, said he's off his.
- 1:12:40Speaker 8: Game But, Olsen, yeah he's hitting three toho. EIGHT i,
- 1:12:42Speaker 8: mean the guy is off to an incredible first month
- 1:12:45Speaker 8: and a half of the. Season so more credit due to.
- 1:12:47Speaker 6: Him, WELL i mean he's having like a historic. SEASON
- 1:12:50Speaker 6: i mean in the season that he's off to from
- 1:12:53Speaker 6: The braves. History he's just all the extra base hits
- 1:12:56Speaker 6: that he, has the home. RUNS i, Mean Matt olsen's
- 1:12:58Speaker 6: just killing it right. Now anybody's going to have a
- 1:13:01Speaker 6: hard time getting that guy out right now the way
- 1:13:03Speaker 6: that he's hitting a.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: Baseball But i'm not worried About. Mooney he's going.
- 1:13:07Speaker 6: To be fine and we're going to be glad that
- 1:13:10Speaker 6: we have him as the season.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: PROGRESSES b is for.
- 1:13:15Speaker 6: BONUSES i just say one other thing About MUNIO'S i
- 1:13:18Speaker 6: don't know why they when you do throw one.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: HUNDRED i mean he throws so many.
- 1:13:22Speaker 6: SLIDERS i mean everybody can just especially left, handed they
- 1:13:26Speaker 6: know he's going to throw a. Slider it's all That
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: cal And garver call for. Him AND i get that
- 1:13:31Speaker 6: he's got a great. Slider when he's, on but it's
- 1:13:34Speaker 6: not really on right.
- 1:13:35Speaker 7: Now he just Brut.
- 1:13:37Speaker 6: YEAH i mean they're all sitting slider right now with,
- 1:13:40Speaker 6: him especially on the first. Pitch so maybe something to
- 1:13:42Speaker 6: be aware of b is for, BONUSES i think more than.
- 1:13:46Speaker 6: Bonuses but we Had Bill krueger bis For bill on
- 1:13:50Speaker 6: an hour ago and we talked almost all pitching with,
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: him but he brought up something right at the tail
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: end to try to soothe.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: Everybody he's not. Worried i'm not.
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: WORRIED i don't Think ashley's so worried about a seventeen
- 1:14:03Speaker 6: and twenty record thirty seven games into the. Season, disappointed, frustrated, aggravated,
- 1:14:09Speaker 6: annoyed but those not. WORRIED i still think that they're
- 1:14:14Speaker 6: going to win this division. Comfortably they're just not hitting
- 1:14:17Speaker 6: the baseball so far this. Season but in terms of
- 1:14:20Speaker 6: a silver lining, Thought Bill krueger pointed out something and
- 1:14:23Speaker 6: we've discussed both of these things at, length but he
- 1:14:27Speaker 6: just sort of pen pointed it for us to wrap
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: up the conversation at seven oh, five and that, was
- 1:14:34Speaker 6: you know, what thirty seven games end of the, year
- 1:14:36Speaker 6: even though you're three games under five, hundred which is.
- 1:14:39Speaker 6: Disappointing it kind of feels like we've found our second
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: basement of the future and we've unlocked another young starting
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: pitcher who looks at minimum to be a mid rotation,
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: starter and the way he's pitched so far this, year
- 1:14:54Speaker 6: maybe a near top of the rotation. Starter Because Emerson
- 1:14:57Speaker 6: ancock's been as good as anybody there With George kirby
- 1:15:01Speaker 6: to start this, season and that is pretty decent silver
- 1:15:04Speaker 6: lining to look at that there were.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: A lot of.
- 1:15:07Speaker 6: Things there are a lot of things that are happening
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: right now that we weren't expecting from the standpoint of
- 1:15:12Speaker 6: how bad we've been in some, areas and that Includes
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: cal hitting one to. Eighty that Includes josh having gotten
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: off to the terrible, start the defense being a lot
- 1:15:21Speaker 6: worse than we, expected bullpen injuries which were not all
- 1:15:25Speaker 6: that accustomed to. Sing so there are a lot of
- 1:15:26Speaker 6: things that we weren't expecting that have been. Bad but
- 1:15:30Speaker 6: As bill points, out there have been a couple of
- 1:15:32Speaker 6: things that we weren't expecting that have been, great and
- 1:15:35Speaker 6: that Is cole And.
- 1:15:36Speaker 8: Emerson, YEAH i, agree both awesome silver, linings both wonderfully positive.
- 1:15:40Speaker 8: Points and there are some other little things here and
- 1:15:43Speaker 8: there that you can look at and, say, yeah this
- 1:15:45Speaker 8: is a. POSITIVE i, Mean Luke rayley's been better this.
- 1:15:47Speaker 8: Year there's certain things that you can look at and, say,
- 1:15:50Speaker 8: well if we look at all these things aside from the,
- 1:15:52Speaker 8: record we're in a pretty good.
- 1:15:54Speaker 7: Place But emerson And Cole young those have got to
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: be the two big.
- 1:15:58Speaker 6: Ones, yeah because it's one thing to a couple guys
- 1:16:00Speaker 6: that are hotter than you would have thought are.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: Streaky those two just look for, real.
- 1:16:07Speaker 6: Looks like he has figured it, out And cole looks
- 1:16:10Speaker 6: like he's taken the next step and looks like he's
- 1:16:13Speaker 6: going to be here for a long.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: Time so very. Exciting finally see is For.
- 1:16:17Speaker 6: Crawford of, Course i'm beating up ON jp quite a
- 1:16:20Speaker 6: bit this, year beat up on him quite a bit last.
- 1:16:23Speaker 6: Year but you, know it's been a it's been a
- 1:16:25Speaker 6: sore spot for, me his play at shortstop so far this.
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: Season and of course you've Heard bucky AND i for
- 1:16:31Speaker 6: years now talk about why IS jp always swinging for the.
- 1:16:35Speaker 6: Fences he's got ten twelve home run power per. Season
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: that's not how he's. Valuable he can't be that. Guy,
- 1:16:41Speaker 6: Well Ryan healy was on with us, yesterday and he
- 1:16:45Speaker 6: actually took that criticism TO jp to find out what
- 1:16:50Speaker 6: he thought about. That here's What ryan said with us
- 1:16:53Speaker 6: yesterday about us THINKING Jp crawford's always swinging for the.
- 1:16:57Speaker 13: FENCES i had a chance to speak WITH jp about
- 1:17:00Speaker 13: that WHILE i was In, seattle and he brought that
- 1:17:03Speaker 13: up BECAUSE i was talking about his early work in
- 1:17:05Speaker 13: some of the moves he was. Making there was like
- 1:17:08Speaker 13: a specific move THAT i saw with his barrel where
- 1:17:11Speaker 13: his barrel kind of loads towards the pitcher and then
- 1:17:13Speaker 13: he's trying to be very direct to the. Baseball SO
- 1:17:15Speaker 13: i was just talking through some feels and some cues with,
- 1:17:17Speaker 13: him and he was telling, me he's, like, man that
- 1:17:21Speaker 13: WHAT i was trying to feel is just as short
- 1:17:23Speaker 13: and directed AS i. Can he goes WHEN i get
- 1:17:24Speaker 13: out of, WHACK i feel Like i'm almost side crunching
- 1:17:27Speaker 13: and crashing towards the, baseball and THEN i end up
- 1:17:30Speaker 13: just unloading this big. Swing so all the fans and
- 1:17:34Speaker 13: the media they Think i'm trying to swing for the,
- 1:17:35Speaker 13: fences whereas realistically my body's just all out of whack
- 1:17:39Speaker 13: AND i can't deliver the normal swing That i'm used to.
- 1:17:41Speaker 13: Delivering So it's not that the intent is trying to do.
- 1:17:44Speaker 13: Damage it's the intent Of JP's trying to catch up
- 1:17:47Speaker 13: with thee hundred milinn hour, fastball and when his body
- 1:17:49Speaker 13: feels unorganized during the loading process of his, swing it's
- 1:17:52Speaker 13: gonna look unorganized when he.
- 1:17:53Speaker 14: Fires so what it looks like isn't.
- 1:17:56Speaker 13: Always truthfully what's happening inside of the, player which is
- 1:17:59Speaker 13: WHY i like to get their perspective on what are
- 1:18:02Speaker 13: you working?
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: On what do you grinding?
- 1:18:03Speaker 13: On BUT i know what it looks, like AND i
- 1:18:06Speaker 13: have had those thoughts, Too but when you hear it
- 1:18:09Speaker 13: from his, mouth it makes you, think all, Right JP's
- 1:18:11Speaker 13: not a.
- 1:18:12Speaker 14: Forty home run guy a. Year he's Not Nelson cruz up.
- 1:18:15Speaker 13: THERE i don't think that's his, Intent BUT i do
- 1:18:18Speaker 13: know as a hitter how quickly you can get out
- 1:18:19Speaker 13: of whack and how uncomfortable it can feel in a
- 1:18:21Speaker 13: big league batter's block when you're competing against plus plus.
- 1:18:24Speaker 6: Arms so when something like last night happens and you
- 1:18:27Speaker 6: get to be the hitting, hero does that get.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: You from out of? Whack are you now in?
- 1:18:33Speaker 13: Whack the honest, Truth, chucky is that you are constantly
- 1:18:39Speaker 13: fighting that battle every single. Day, yeah it is a
- 1:18:42Speaker 13: daily battle of how sore is my? Body DO i
- 1:18:45Speaker 13: have my legs underneath? Me AM i able to execute
- 1:18:48Speaker 13: my routine and feel like my swing is in the right?
- 1:18:50Speaker 13: Order the sequence is the famous, word is my sequence
- 1:18:53Speaker 13: in the right? Order and there are plenty of days
- 1:18:55Speaker 13: through one hundred and sixty two games where you can
- 1:18:57Speaker 13: step in the batting cage and, GO i got it
- 1:18:59Speaker 13: To BUT i still have to go out there and.
- 1:19:01Speaker 13: Compete and sometimes you have your best games doing that
- 1:19:05Speaker 13: and sometimes you. Don't but the one Thing JP's always.
- 1:19:07Speaker 13: Bronze he gets on. Base and the players that stick
- 1:19:11Speaker 13: around the major leagues are able to get on base
- 1:19:14Speaker 13: even when they're not hitting because they gave a baseball
- 1:19:16Speaker 13: is who can create the least amount of?
- 1:19:17Speaker 14: OUTS Jp grawford does a great job of.
- 1:19:20Speaker 13: That and what's so impressive, is, yeah he's batten two to,
- 1:19:22Speaker 13: eight which isn't blowing your socks, off but he's getting
- 1:19:25Speaker 13: on base at an almost a three seventy. Clip that's really.
- 1:19:29Speaker 13: Impressive that's well above league. Average so the value That
- 1:19:32Speaker 13: JP's bring even when he's out of whack is still.
- 1:19:34Speaker 6: High all, Right Ryan healey with us yesterday and yes
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: that did give us a different perspective they did, Not oh,
- 1:19:40Speaker 6: Absolutely and that jped is bothered when people think he's
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: swinging for the, fences.
- 1:19:44Speaker 8: Especially for, me like for a non baseball, mind like
- 1:19:47Speaker 8: just a baseball, fan but not someone who's ever played.
- 1:19:50Speaker 7: Baseball that made it all different for.
- 1:19:52Speaker 6: Me and yet you still look like you're swinging for the.
- 1:19:56Speaker 6: Fence oh, absolutely As i'm not Sure i'm buying. It
- 1:20:00Speaker 6: and if your answer Is i'm just getting out of,
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: whack why are you getting out of whack so? Frequently
- 1:20:06Speaker 6: that was the one question a professional baseball, player don't
- 1:20:10Speaker 6: get off, whack be in.
- 1:20:12Speaker 8: WHACK i, agree BUT i wondered if it maybe because
- 1:20:16Speaker 8: he is a little like, gangly and so maybe.
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: A lot of guys are.
- 1:20:19Speaker 6: Gangly, YEAH i know guys are, ganglier AND i don't
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: see them falling all over themselves and their helmet falling.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Off, YEAH i, MEAN i still am. Questioning it gives
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: me a new, perspective it, does it makes.
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: Me think about it, differently BUT i still am questioning
- 1:20:35Speaker 6: a few things about it. All and and my answer
- 1:20:39Speaker 6: to it would, BE i need you to be on better,
- 1:20:42Speaker 6: balance then consistently on better, balance because if you're just
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: saying you're getting out of whack with your.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: SWING i don't see anyone else In.
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: Major league baseball getting out of whack every time they're at.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: Plate at the.
- 1:20:55Speaker 8: Plate it made me feel better about his mental approach to,
- 1:20:58Speaker 8: it knowing that he's not going up there trying to
- 1:21:00Speaker 8: do that and that he does know he is as
- 1:21:04Speaker 8: a baseball. Player, yeah but it made me nervous to,
- 1:21:07Speaker 8: THINK i don't understand how that's.
- 1:21:09Speaker 7: Happening yeah all the. Time, yeah all.
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- 1:24:09Speaker 6: yeah and they are they are of the belief that
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- 1:24:18Speaker 1: Camp THAT'S i mean seven months.
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- 1:24:22Speaker 8: in the beginning or middle of the season wouldn't even
- 1:24:24Speaker 8: be ready for the start of the season ordinarily seven months.
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- 1:24:42Speaker 6: Saying, Also Carlos korea is not going to be ready
- 1:24:46Speaker 6: that time that. Soon, No Carlos korea yesterday with The Houston,
- 1:24:50Speaker 6: astros was just swinging before the game and felt something
- 1:24:55Speaker 6: pop in his. Ankle crumbled to the ground and it
- 1:24:59Speaker 6: turns out and he knew something was, wrong very Very,
- 1:25:02Speaker 6: yeah felt it pop and it was just a tendon
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: in his ankle that he was just swinging and.
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: It just popped and he is out for the. Season,
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: Yeah So.
- 1:25:10Speaker 6: Carlos karrea has been lost from The, astros who Lost
- 1:25:12Speaker 6: Yinier diaz their catcher and kind of a free similar
- 1:25:16Speaker 6: freakish accident in pregame warmups the day BEFORE so or
- 1:25:22Speaker 6: a couple days BEFORE. So but in the span of
- 1:25:24Speaker 6: two three, days they lost two everyday players from a
- 1:25:27Speaker 6: team that's obviously off to a rough start this. Year
- 1:25:31Speaker 6: and SO i don't bring that up so that you
- 1:25:33Speaker 6: can laugh At Carlos. KOREA i don't or The astros
- 1:25:36Speaker 6: or The. ASTROS i bring that up Because i'm going
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- 1:25:42Speaker 6: that are going to be selling heavily at the trading,
- 1:25:44Speaker 6: deadline put The astros at the top of your. List,
- 1:25:47Speaker 6: obviously they built a Din they built a. Dynasty we
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: don't talk about it. Enough they built a. DYNASTY i
- 1:25:53Speaker 6: mean they won. Championships they won what a decade's worth
- 1:25:58Speaker 6: Of DIVISION ti idols in the playoffs every, year relevant
- 1:26:03Speaker 6: championship contenders every. YEAR i, mean if it's not, dynasty
- 1:26:06Speaker 6: it's about as close as you can. Get and that
- 1:26:08Speaker 6: was born out of a complete and total, rebuild like
- 1:26:12Speaker 6: one of the most dramatic rebuilds we've seen in professional
- 1:26:15Speaker 6: sports in our entire. Lifetime they got as bad as
- 1:26:18Speaker 6: you can possibly get by ripping it all the way
- 1:26:22Speaker 6: down to the studs and just getting rid of everybody
- 1:26:25Speaker 6: that made.
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: Money anything that moved they moved on from.
- 1:26:29Speaker 6: And rebuilt in a new way through high draft picks
- 1:26:33Speaker 6: and prospects and everything.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: Else and they created a. Dynasty so if.
- 1:26:36Speaker 6: Anyone believes in the rebuilding, process it's The Houston. Astros
- 1:26:41Speaker 6: and now that the riding kind of seems to be
- 1:26:43Speaker 6: on the, wall they're losing players one after. Another they
- 1:26:46Speaker 6: can't keep a starting pitcher. Healthy and even though they've
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: got Your Don, alvarez they've Lost tucker And bregman and many.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: Others over the.
- 1:26:53Speaker 6: Years altubay's obviously not the same player that he used to.
- 1:26:56Speaker 6: Be they're going to go full scale rear build because
- 1:27:00Speaker 6: if anyone believes in a, rebuild that's The Houston. Astros
- 1:27:03Speaker 6: SO i think they're going to be big time sellers
- 1:27:06Speaker 6: at the trading. Deadline i'm talking your Down alvarez will be,
- 1:27:09Speaker 6: gone they won't be able to move out two ba's,
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: money But Josh hater will be. Healthy at some point this,
- 1:27:14Speaker 6: year they're gonna move. Him they'll probably Move BRIAN. A Bray,
- 1:27:17Speaker 6: New they're probably gonna move anything that makes. Money The
- 1:27:21Speaker 6: Houston astros are gonna move before the trading deadline market.
- 1:27:23Speaker 7: Down all, Right i'm in for.
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: It.
- 1:27:26Speaker 6: Yeah, SO i mean they're getting ready to because their
- 1:27:29Speaker 6: farm system is. Terrible uh so they they're going to
- 1:27:33Speaker 6: rebuild the whole thing all over. Again AND i don't
- 1:27:35Speaker 6: think we're gonna have to worry about The Houston.
- 1:27:37Speaker 7: Astros for the ONE i do hate to see them.
- 1:27:39Speaker 6: Struggle another Former astro made news, Yesterday, frambervaldez who we
- 1:27:46Speaker 6: grew to hate for a lot of, reasons and not
- 1:27:48Speaker 6: just because he was An. Astro he kind of came
- 1:27:50Speaker 6: off as an ass right insert, Right and So Framber,
- 1:27:58Speaker 6: valdez who last year made Headlines i'm not making this
- 1:28:02Speaker 6: up because he intentionally crossed up his own backup catcher
- 1:28:08Speaker 6: who was catching him for the first. Time, like maybe
- 1:28:11Speaker 6: you're not on the same. Page how SHOULD i handle?
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: That as a?
- 1:28:14Speaker 6: PROFESSIONAL i would think last on your list is to
- 1:28:18Speaker 6: try to hurt him physically by throwing pitches he's not calling.
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: For, yeah that's What.
- 1:28:26Speaker 6: Frambervaldes did in a game last, year so he has
- 1:28:29Speaker 6: earned The reputee gave up.
- 1:28:30Speaker 7: A Grand slam and he was, pissed.
- 1:28:32Speaker 6: Yeah because he didn't think the catcher had framed the
- 1:28:35Speaker 6: pitch accordingly and he should have been out of the,
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: inning and so he decided to punish him by hitting
- 1:28:41Speaker 6: him with a pitch.
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: That the catcher didn't throw. Twice, Yeah so that's the
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: kind of person that we're dealing.
- 1:28:46Speaker 6: With and there have been a few other, incidents so
- 1:28:48Speaker 6: already there was this belief That Framber valdes is the
- 1:28:52Speaker 6: biggest jerk In.
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: Basis so that's how we felt about him going into last.
- 1:28:57Speaker 6: Night, well then we heard about a fracas that took
- 1:29:01Speaker 6: place between his new, team The Detroit, tigers and The
- 1:29:04Speaker 6: Boston Red, sox And valdez was at the heart of
- 1:29:07Speaker 6: it and once again born out of him getting the
- 1:29:10Speaker 6: tar beaten out of. Him and he's been pretty good
- 1:29:12Speaker 6: since he went to The, tigers but ten runs he
- 1:29:15Speaker 6: allowed in three innings last night and then he got
- 1:29:18Speaker 6: himself kicked out of the.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: Game after This trevor story.
- 1:29:23Speaker 4: Is gonna get.
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: Drilled that's.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Tired after the back to back home Runs valdez plumps,
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: him and some of The Red sox coming out and
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: some of The tigers coming, out and both benches are.
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: Emptying you can't get them. Out see you throw at?
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: Him put it.
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: Joke Red sox bullpen is about to enter this thing,
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: too as they race across the outfield. Grass no punches
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: are anything. Thrown now the one guy who caused it
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: hiding in the.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: Back that is. Weak you give up.
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: Three home runs back to back, shots and then you
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Drill Trevor. Story, well let's just hope he didn't cross
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: up his catcher now that he's.
- 1:30:02Speaker 6: Mad that was The Red sox. Broadcast as you might,
- 1:30:08Speaker 6: GUESS i loved. It there weren't even tigers. Though rallying
- 1:30:11Speaker 6: to his, defense Aj hench was even quoted his manager is,
- 1:30:16Speaker 6: saying last night that was one of those rare times
- 1:30:20Speaker 6: WHERE i went out on the field AND i didn't
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: even want to defend my. Guy And i'm, paraphrasing BUT
- 1:30:25Speaker 6: i didn't feel like being out. There so even he
- 1:30:29Speaker 6: did not like the action Of Framber valdez throwing intentionally
- 1:30:34Speaker 6: At Trevor story last night after he got the tar
- 1:30:36Speaker 6: beat out of him for three. Innings so he was
- 1:30:40Speaker 6: ejected from the. Game it was pretty, clear And valdez
- 1:30:43Speaker 6: did say afterwards it was just a pitch that got
- 1:30:45Speaker 6: away from. Me so he did not own up to
- 1:30:48Speaker 6: throwing At trevor's story in that, situation but it caused this.
- 1:30:53Speaker 6: Melee you could even See Wilson contreras in the video
- 1:30:56Speaker 6: mouthing to the umpire he has to, go you have
- 1:30:59Speaker 6: to throw him, out and he was thrown out of the.
- 1:31:01Speaker 6: Game and so last night was a huge pile on Of,
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: frambervaldez one of the villains Of Major League, baseball and
- 1:31:09Speaker 6: not just A mariner, fans but to all Of Major League,
- 1:31:12Speaker 6: baseball especially for the way that he's conducted, himself comported
- 1:31:16Speaker 6: himself in the last few. Years and so last, night
- 1:31:19Speaker 6: certainly you saw, It, ashley it was pile On framber
- 1:31:22Speaker 6: night on social.
- 1:31:23Speaker 8: Media oh, yeah and it should be the. GUY i,
- 1:31:25Speaker 8: mean he seems to Not we've talked about this. Before
- 1:31:28Speaker 8: he is not mentally tough. ENOUGH i don't think to
- 1:31:33Speaker 8: succeed in this league.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: Because he just he is. Succeeding he is.
- 1:31:35Speaker 8: Succeeding But i'm, saying Like, megans well, yeah that, yes
- 1:31:39Speaker 8: But i'm in terms of like actually being a good
- 1:31:41Speaker 8: teammate and having the support of your team and things like.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: That he the a world. CHAMPION i, mean we gotta
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: give him. Credit he's won two world, championshipyes.
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: Gee.
- 1:31:51Speaker 8: But he's just NOT i just don't think he's mentally tough,
- 1:31:54Speaker 8: enough because he loses his mind in these situations and
- 1:31:56Speaker 8: he takes it out so obviously on, people and it's
- 1:31:59Speaker 8: amazing that he's continuing to get away with.
- 1:32:01Speaker 6: IT i disagree with. YOU i think he is mentally
- 1:32:04Speaker 6: tough enough as a. PITCHER i think he is a
- 1:32:06Speaker 6: poor sport if you will to, Yeah AND i think
- 1:32:10Speaker 6: that he's somebody that if things aren't going his, way
- 1:32:14Speaker 6: then he and he wants to blame. Others then he
- 1:32:16Speaker 6: does stupid. Things but he's been a very successful. Pitcher
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: he's been a winning, pitcher he's been a championship, pitcher
- 1:32:23Speaker 6: and he's also somebody that has become a very wealthy.
- 1:32:27Speaker 6: Pitcher SO i don't think that he's weak minded at.
- 1:32:30Speaker 6: ALL i think that he's, immature, childish and maybe even beyond,
- 1:32:36Speaker 6: that maybe it is just egotistical That i'm not going
- 1:32:39Speaker 6: to get shown up this. Way you're not going to
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: beat me around the, Ballpark i'm going to hurt. You
- 1:32:44Speaker 6: and so we are certainly to a spot in, baseball
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: and especially the younger, generations people my age and, older
- 1:32:54Speaker 6: they can't have a. PROBLEM i, mean they tend not
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: to have as big a problem with throwing at a
- 1:33:00Speaker 6: pitcher because we grew up Where Bob gibson was idolized
- 1:33:05Speaker 6: for such. Things Don drysdale was, idle and those guys
- 1:33:08Speaker 6: are older THAN i, am but we grew up hearing
- 1:33:11Speaker 6: from our father's stories About Bob.
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: Gibson wouldn't allow that to happen Or Don.
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: Dry even if you're getting beat around a, lot it
- 1:33:18Speaker 6: just you, know if they're diving, in if they're too,
- 1:33:20Speaker 6: comfortable you got to make them. Uncomfortable Nolan ryan did. It,
- 1:33:23Speaker 6: Certainly Randy johnson did. It so that was a bygone.
- 1:33:27Speaker 6: Era we have now the generation beneath me and then
- 1:33:31Speaker 6: the generation that's coming, up and they can't stand that
- 1:33:34Speaker 6: kind of.
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: Baseball and you.
- 1:33:35Speaker 6: Heard it from The Red sox color analysts last night, saying,
- 1:33:40Speaker 6: yeah of course that's what you would. Do you're getting beat,
- 1:33:43Speaker 6: around and so you decide to throw at someone and
- 1:33:45Speaker 6: try to hurt. Them so there's not much tolerance for
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: that right, now especially from younger baseball, fans because.
- 1:33:52Speaker 8: They're also throwing harder, Too SO i mean you're risk for. Injuries, well,
- 1:33:55Speaker 8: no it's harder Than Randy. Johnson well, no not Than.
- 1:33:58Speaker 8: Randy But i'm saying in, general pitchers tend to throw
- 1:34:01Speaker 8: harder than they.
- 1:34:01Speaker 6: Did now there is another side to, This oh, gosh
- 1:34:07Speaker 6: because there's actually some defense For Framber valdez, here AND
- 1:34:11Speaker 6: i think that you will agree because what was pointed
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: out afterwards and didn't get talked about nearly. Enough, yeah
- 1:34:21Speaker 6: The Boston Red sox were giving away. Signs, yeah they
- 1:34:26Speaker 6: were standing at second. Base Eric, hosmer who's turned into
- 1:34:30Speaker 6: quite the. Analyst he's very, interesting the former first baseman
- 1:34:33Speaker 6: who's spilling it, all like all the tricks that we
- 1:34:36Speaker 6: used to steal. Signs, yeah, Okay and he did this
- 1:34:41Speaker 6: long video last night showing you Why Framber valdez was
- 1:34:45Speaker 6: pissed off last. Night NOW i don't Like Framber valdez,
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: either but hear me. Out so the reds So hosmer
- 1:34:52Speaker 6: was pointing, out, like this is what's. Happening they're relaying the.
- 1:34:56Speaker 6: Signs he was he had the whole. System, YEAH i saw.
- 1:34:59Speaker 6: It but what Will you're a bray who has one
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: foot on the, bag one off the. Bag he's relaying a.
- 1:35:04Speaker 6: Sign he's trying to tell him THAT i Think i've
- 1:35:06Speaker 6: got the. Grip and then if they make, contact then
- 1:35:09Speaker 6: he steps with either steps with both feet onto the,
- 1:35:12Speaker 6: bag or if he steps doesn't step, on then he's
- 1:35:15Speaker 6: relaying sign or.
- 1:35:15Speaker 8: He goes to the other. Side if you can't see
- 1:35:17Speaker 8: something like. That, yeah then he gets the lead and
- 1:35:19Speaker 8: then he taps the. HELMET i mean we've Seen Josh
- 1:35:21Speaker 8: naylor do.
- 1:35:22Speaker 6: This, yeah, okay so this is NO i, mean, forever
- 1:35:27Speaker 6: stealing signs has been part of the, game but forever
- 1:35:31Speaker 6: throwing at hitters who are stealing signs has been part
- 1:35:35Speaker 6: of the.
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: Game so we how do we want this to be?
- 1:35:40Speaker 7: Policed we shouldn't you throw at the hitter who is
- 1:35:43Speaker 7: stealing the? Signs though not just he, did but Oh
- 1:35:45Speaker 7: story was.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Stealing trevert was the guy that got.
- 1:35:48Speaker 7: CAUGHT i, thought was a bray you that got.
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: Caught, nope a bray you did it in the video got.
- 1:35:53Speaker 6: Established but then When Trevor story got on, base he
- 1:35:57Speaker 6: stole second so that he now knew we have the.
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: Signs, yeah so that's the.
- 1:36:03Speaker 6: Reason according To, hosmer he got the second, base so
- 1:36:06Speaker 6: that because he knew that they had the signs down thanks.
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: To a, bray so story starts relaying.
- 1:36:12Speaker 6: Him so What hosmer said was That valdez got into
- 1:36:17Speaker 6: the dugout and was made aware of what they were.
- 1:36:20Speaker 6: Doing so then he goes back out and starts getting
- 1:36:24Speaker 6: beat around, again and he stays out long enough to
- 1:36:27Speaker 6: Face trevor, story and then he Plunks trevor's story and
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: then the melee. Ensues, so, LOOK i get. It stealing
- 1:36:36Speaker 6: signs has been part of the, game but we The,
- 1:36:39Speaker 6: astros took.
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: It to a whole new.
- 1:36:40Speaker 6: Level hosmer explains how far The dodgers have taken cheating
- 1:36:43Speaker 6: over the.
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: Years he calls the masters of.
- 1:36:45Speaker 6: It he, said when he was In Kansas city and
- 1:36:49Speaker 6: they won A world, championship of course he, said we
- 1:36:51Speaker 6: didn't do it that.
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: Much, yeah maybe they, did maybe they, didn't but he.
- 1:36:54Speaker 6: Did say when we got To San, DIEGO i got
- 1:36:56Speaker 6: a lesson and how to do it WHEN i went
- 1:36:58Speaker 6: to The padres and then we found out The dodgers
- 1:37:00Speaker 6: are masters of.
- 1:37:01Speaker 4: It, SO i, mean.
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: Are what other.
- 1:37:09Speaker 6: Reaction is a pitcher afforded when he's getting. Embarrassed he's
- 1:37:15Speaker 6: a good, pitcher it's a very good, pitcher and he's
- 1:37:19Speaker 6: getting embarrassed by a team that may be hitting him
- 1:37:22Speaker 6: only because they know what he's getting ready to throw
- 1:37:25Speaker 6: and they have a system set up that is relaying those.
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: Signs once upon a, time.
- 1:37:31Speaker 6: Prior to these two generations That i'm talking, about it
- 1:37:35Speaker 6: was perfectly acceptable in baseball's. World if you found out
- 1:37:39Speaker 6: people were stealing your signs or trying to steal your, signs.
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: You threw at.
- 1:37:42Speaker 6: Them that was what you. Did that's how they policed. It,
- 1:37:46Speaker 6: well if we don't throw at, them.
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: How do we police?
- 1:37:50Speaker 6: That BECAUSE i can't believe that we're going to defend
- 1:37:53Speaker 6: a team system for stealing signs from a. PITCHER i,
- 1:37:57Speaker 6: mean we've Seen Josh naylor do it as. Well he's
- 1:37:59Speaker 6: going to get thrown. AT Jt gen chirped at him
- 1:38:04Speaker 6: coming off the field a couple of.
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: Weeks, ago kiss AND i Think Josh naylor's okay with.
- 1:38:08Speaker 6: That Josh naylor's going to get thrown, at even if
- 1:38:11Speaker 6: he is just faking it leading off second, Base he's
- 1:38:14Speaker 6: going to get thrown, at and it's going to happen
- 1:38:16Speaker 6: a lot during the course of the year if he
- 1:38:18Speaker 6: continues to operate that. Way BUT i, mean even though
- 1:38:23Speaker 6: we accept that stealing signs is kind of part of the,
- 1:38:26Speaker 6: game we also don't accept that having some sort of
- 1:38:30Speaker 6: team wide system for relaying the. Signs we don't accept,
- 1:38:35Speaker 6: that do. We so what is the? Reaction what's a
- 1:38:38Speaker 6: fair and appropriate reaction for a picture who's getting embarrassed
- 1:38:41Speaker 6: by a team that's cheating technically. Cheating what is the
- 1:38:45Speaker 6: fair reaction for a pitcher to do in that situation
- 1:38:49Speaker 6: to tell, THEM i know what you're, doing don't ever
- 1:38:51Speaker 6: do it to me, again because it's always been throw
- 1:38:55Speaker 6: at the guy that you know is.
- 1:38:56Speaker 8: Cheating AND i can totally understand, THAT i think it
- 1:38:59Speaker 8: AND i as far as a team wide, SYSTEM i,
- 1:39:01Speaker 8: mean if it, is you, know we don't accept a
- 1:39:03Speaker 8: team wide system if you're using outside sources in order
- 1:39:06Speaker 8: to relay the, message, right if you're in the, game
- 1:39:08Speaker 8: you're on the base and you're relaying the. SIGNS i
- 1:39:11Speaker 8: think we've become accustomed to seeing that that's part of,
- 1:39:14Speaker 8: it and it's not even necessarily the signs as.
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: Much If i'm A i'm not going to accept that, no.
- 1:39:19Speaker 8: AND i understand, That But i'm, saying it's the, grip,
- 1:39:21Speaker 8: Right so then you have to kind of figure out
- 1:39:23Speaker 8: how is it THAT i can manipulate my glove or
- 1:39:26Speaker 8: change What i'm doing so that they're not seeing the
- 1:39:27Speaker 8: grip That i've got on the, ball so they don't
- 1:39:29Speaker 8: know what pitch is. COMING i can understand the frustrations
- 1:39:31Speaker 8: on both. SIDES i think where the argument for stealing
- 1:39:35Speaker 8: the signs is going to be ahead of the argument
- 1:39:38Speaker 8: for plunking the. Batter stealing signs isn't going to injure the,
- 1:39:43Speaker 8: pitcher whereas plunking the batter can injure the pitcher or
- 1:39:46Speaker 8: injure the injure the guy who's who's getting. HIT i
- 1:39:49Speaker 8: can understand Why valdez is angry about. THAT i THINK
- 1:39:53Speaker 8: i also wouldn't have as.
- 1:39:54Speaker 6: HARD i think a lot of baseball players feel more
- 1:39:56Speaker 6: injured about getting embarrassed than they do having a ball
- 1:40:00Speaker 6: thrown at, them.
- 1:40:01Speaker 8: Right AND i can understand the feeling of embarrassment or
- 1:40:04Speaker 8: why you would feel that. Way But i'm, saying in
- 1:40:05Speaker 8: terms of who actually is going to get injured in the,
- 1:40:07Speaker 8: situation it's the person that's getting thrown at with the
- 1:40:10Speaker 8: higher possibility of getting injured than the.
- 1:40:12Speaker 7: Picture who's getting But.
- 1:40:14Speaker 6: BUCKY i can Hear bucky right. Now it's a ball of.
- 1:40:16Speaker 6: Yarn like he threw it in the middle of his. Back,
- 1:40:18Speaker 6: Yeah like if he threw it at his face or his,
- 1:40:20Speaker 6: head he's not going to get injured from that getting
- 1:40:23Speaker 6: hit in the middle of the.
- 1:40:24Speaker 4: Back.
- 1:40:25Speaker 8: Yeah AND i get, that that's how they police. IT
- 1:40:28Speaker 8: i understand all of that.
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: Exactly so what is what should he do?
- 1:40:32Speaker 14: THEN i, MEAN i don't.
- 1:40:33Speaker 8: KNOW i GUESS i don't have an answer for how,
- 1:40:37Speaker 8: well unless you eliminate, both, well, here send them. Both
- 1:40:40Speaker 8: here's my answer to them. Both here's my.
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: Answer don't cheat and you don't have to worry about. That, yeah,
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: OKAY i don't like it.
- 1:40:46Speaker 6: EITHER i don't like pictures getting lit up and then
- 1:40:49Speaker 6: they throw at somebody just because they're. Angry AND i
- 1:40:52Speaker 6: Think franbervaldez is perfectly capable of doing something like, that
- 1:40:56Speaker 6: like You're i'm getting. Embarrassed i'm losing it before someone's
- 1:40:59Speaker 6: going to pay for. It i'm not trying to defend Framber.
- 1:41:02Speaker 6: VALDEZ i think he's a. Jerk but WHAT i am
- 1:41:04Speaker 6: saying is what they were doing is. Plunkworthy, yeah and
- 1:41:09Speaker 6: you have a team system set up and you're stealing
- 1:41:12Speaker 6: signs or grip or whatever they can and you're ralaying that.
- 1:41:15Speaker 6: Information really the only thing a pitcher can do in that.
- 1:41:20Speaker 6: SITUATION i, mean if you, change, okay hide, it better
- 1:41:25Speaker 6: change your. Grip but if you don't realize you're doing,
- 1:41:27Speaker 6: it and now all of a, sudden you've given up
- 1:41:29Speaker 6: ten runs and you're absolutely embarrassed and you've played your
- 1:41:32Speaker 6: team out of the, game and then you find out
- 1:41:35Speaker 6: later it's because they've been stealing. SIGNS i get why
- 1:41:38Speaker 6: people will be, angry and it was always acceptable to
- 1:41:41Speaker 6: show some of that anger and that frustration by throwing at.
- 1:41:44Speaker 6: Someone that's always been part of the major league. Game
- 1:41:48Speaker 6: SO i don't think this is as cut and dry
- 1:41:50Speaker 6: this time As frambervaldes is a jerk and The Boston
- 1:41:54Speaker 6: Red sox are. VICTIMS i think they were, jerks they
- 1:41:57Speaker 6: got caught being, jerks And frambervaldez has showed THEM i
- 1:42:01Speaker 6: can be an even bigger. Jerk, yeah that's WHAT i
- 1:42:03Speaker 6: think went. Down so this isn't just The Red. Sox
- 1:42:06Speaker 6: we're completely, innocent And Framber valdez is the complete. VILLAIN
- 1:42:10Speaker 6: i think they were both acting very.
- 1:42:11Speaker 8: Villainous, WELL i, think, yeah both of them are at
- 1:42:13Speaker 8: fault for the way the whole thing played, out because,
- 1:42:15Speaker 8: yes you would assume he's not giving up that many
- 1:42:18Speaker 8: runs and he's not getting that angry if they're not
- 1:42:21Speaker 8: stealing the. Signs but WHAT i was going to say
- 1:42:22Speaker 8: earlier IS i also will SAY i don't THINK i
- 1:42:25Speaker 8: would be as bothered by somebody throwing at somebody else
- 1:42:28Speaker 8: if it Wasn't Framber, valdez WHO i feel like we've
- 1:42:30Speaker 8: had this situation with a lot and it hasn't been
- 1:42:33Speaker 8: because his signs are being stealed or his pitches are
- 1:42:35Speaker 8: being tipped or anything like. THAT i, mean it's because
- 1:42:39Speaker 8: he's a hothead and he gets irritated, easily and then
- 1:42:42Speaker 8: he plunks, people including his own. Catcher SO i don't
- 1:42:45Speaker 8: have a lot of sympathy For framber in this, situation
- 1:42:47Speaker 8: BUT i can understand how both sides are at.
- 1:42:49Speaker 6: Fault, Well i'll tell you, this if any marin or
- 1:42:52Speaker 6: pitcher has given up ten runs through three innings and
- 1:42:55Speaker 6: is being made bias, manager you got aware of this,
- 1:42:59Speaker 6: one and you got to go up and they continue
- 1:43:01Speaker 6: to do, it and, like.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna Even you're gonna pile on even.
- 1:43:06Speaker 6: More and one of our pitchers throws at one of
- 1:43:08Speaker 6: the hitters that is doing on another, TEAM i will
- 1:43:12Speaker 6: be here to defend that. Picture, yeah so it's hard
- 1:43:14Speaker 6: for me not to at least offer some different defense
- 1:43:18Speaker 6: For framber Vald.
- 1:43:19Speaker 8: And AS i, SAID i understand both, sides they're both at.
- 1:43:22Speaker 8: Fault if it Wasn't Framber, Valdez i'd have a lot more.
- 1:43:24Speaker 8: Sympathy but it is because this isn't his first, Incident
- 1:43:27Speaker 8: so that's WHERE i lose some of the sympathy for.
- 1:43:29Speaker 6: Him osper also pointed out that one of the most
- 1:43:33Speaker 6: one of the biggest changes to the, game and this
- 1:43:35Speaker 6: kind of speaks to how much this stuff goes. On
- 1:43:39Speaker 6: one of the biggest changes of the offseason was not abs,
- 1:43:43Speaker 6: challenge was Major League baseball saying that first and third
- 1:43:47Speaker 6: base coaches have to.
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: Stay in the.
- 1:43:49Speaker 6: Box you know that box that they have over, There
- 1:43:52Speaker 6: and for years they were just allowed to stand. Anywhere,
- 1:43:57Speaker 6: well there's a, box they're supposed to stand in. It
- 1:44:00Speaker 6: the reason they were standing anywhere is because they were
- 1:44:03Speaker 6: trying to steal. Signs and that they would find the
- 1:44:06Speaker 6: best way to look in at the catcher and try
- 1:44:09Speaker 6: to relay information to the, hitter and the fact that
- 1:44:13Speaker 6: they have forced them to stay in the, boxes they
- 1:44:16Speaker 6: now no longer have the opportunity to find the perfect.
- 1:44:20Speaker 6: Angle so this stuff's been going on for a long,
- 1:44:22Speaker 6: time but so is throwing pitchers throwing at hitters who
- 1:44:26Speaker 6: are trying to get an unfair advantage against. Them and
- 1:44:30Speaker 6: both have been in play for a long period of.
- 1:44:33Speaker 6: Time and as you, said you allow to police it.
- 1:44:35Speaker 6: Yourself so if you're gonna be angry At, framber AND
- 1:44:39Speaker 6: i don't have a problem with people being angry At,
- 1:44:41Speaker 6: framber be angry at The Red sox, too Because i'm
- 1:44:43Speaker 6: gonna tell you right, now IF i was pitching AND
- 1:44:45Speaker 6: i find OUT i gave up ten runs because they
- 1:44:47Speaker 6: were relaying signs and they weren't beating, me Even, Steven.
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: I'm throwing at. Somebody, yeah but it isn't IT i
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: am throwing it.
- 1:44:53Speaker 8: Something isn't it interesting, though That Major League baseball is
- 1:44:56Speaker 8: implemented penalties for people who throw at people like. That
- 1:44:59Speaker 8: in that, situation there's no penalty for standing on second
- 1:45:01Speaker 8: base and relaying assigned back to your, teammates so they
- 1:45:04Speaker 8: clearly don't have a problem with.
- 1:45:05Speaker 7: ONE i don't.
- 1:45:07Speaker 8: Know, maybe so Maybe Major League baseball needs to get
- 1:45:10Speaker 8: rid of that as well and start implementing penalties for relaying,
- 1:45:13Speaker 8: signs if you want to get rid of all of.
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- 1:45:58Speaker 6: Mike benton's. Filter it is Sport It's radio ninety three
- 1:46:01Speaker 6: point three k J r FM's Own Michael.
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: Benton how are you, doing.
- 1:46:05Speaker 4: Sir good, Morning. Chuck always a.
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: Pleasure you're dropping off drop? Off, yeah dropping the kids
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: off of the school. Today what are you?
- 1:46:15Speaker 9: Doing, yeah kids are all settled. In this is kind
- 1:46:18Speaker 9: of the off season, thing you know WHAT i. Mean
- 1:46:20Speaker 9: so it's it's lather. Rinse it's lather rents. Routine let
- 1:46:24Speaker 9: lather rens. Repeat as far as the, routine the wife's
- 1:46:27Speaker 9: car got into the, shop so we're down to one,
- 1:46:29Speaker 9: car and you, know it's it's kind of it's kind
- 1:46:32Speaker 9: of nice verse maybe at this time of year where
- 1:46:34Speaker 9: it happens versus stay in the middle Of. March SO
- 1:46:36Speaker 9: i can't complain it's all about silver, linings right.
- 1:46:40Speaker 6: Exactly, Uh, well let's talk about what happened last night
- 1:46:44Speaker 6: with THE nhl. LOTTERY i, Mean i'm just gonna be
- 1:46:49Speaker 6: blunt with. YOU i think the NB a lottery is
- 1:46:52Speaker 6: flat out. RIGGED i am one of the most vocal.
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: People about that in sports talk. RADIO i think it
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: absolutely is.
- 1:46:59Speaker 6: Rigged do hockey people feel as passionate about THE nhl?
- 1:47:04Speaker 6: Lottery BECAUSE i heard some stuff last night about boy
- 1:47:07Speaker 6: that seems.
- 1:47:07Speaker 1: Fishy every time the Maple leafs are in the, lottery
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: they win. It so do.
- 1:47:12Speaker 6: Hockey people feel that way about their own?
- 1:47:15Speaker 9: Lottery, well IF i can put it this, way it's
- 1:47:19Speaker 9: kind of.
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: Funny how it worked, out. SHUCK i, MEAN i don't
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: want to go there.
- 1:47:23Speaker 9: And be that guy and assume that it basically is,
- 1:47:25Speaker 9: rigged BUT i, mean, hey, listen it's it's just kind
- 1:47:28Speaker 9: of funny how it works, out where you, know you
- 1:47:31Speaker 9: have The Maple, leaves who you, know might be this
- 1:47:33Speaker 9: close to tearing it down ten years, ago they Got Austin.
- 1:47:36Speaker 9: Matthews all of a sudden, boom they fall into the
- 1:47:39Speaker 9: first overall pick and moved up from. Five and they're
- 1:47:41Speaker 9: basically getting the First riots here, Too gavin. McKenna then
- 1:47:45Speaker 9: you Have chicago Getting Connor. Bdard then you have you,
- 1:47:48Speaker 9: Know San jose trying to get back on track with
- 1:47:50Speaker 9: No Joe, thornton No Patrick. Marlowe and you, know they
- 1:47:53Speaker 9: had to go through some, leanears but they got Map On.
- 1:47:55Speaker 9: Celebrini but THEN i even go back to When pittsburgh
- 1:47:59Speaker 9: was nearly bankrupt and were on the verge of moving
- 1:48:03Speaker 9: about twenty years, ago and then they wind up with
- 1:48:05Speaker 9: a guy moving on From Mario lemieu to a guy
- 1:48:07Speaker 9: Named Sidney. Crosby and then you you, know throw in
- 1:48:10Speaker 9: the fact that last year The New York island are
- 1:48:13Speaker 9: supposed to get The All Star game that gets moved
- 1:48:16Speaker 9: out because of The. Olympics they have AN nhl event
- 1:48:19Speaker 9: that was scheduled as kind of like An olympic send.
- 1:48:23Speaker 9: Off then the powers that be realized maybe that's not
- 1:48:26Speaker 9: so much of a good, idea and all of a
- 1:48:28Speaker 9: sudden The islanders with this slimits of, margins you, know
- 1:48:31Speaker 9: wind up with first overall and Get Matthew. Schaeffer SO i,
- 1:48:35Speaker 9: mean you, know the good sun of me and my shoulders, says,
- 1:48:38Speaker 9: hey this is just how the lottery balls just kind
- 1:48:40Speaker 9: of fall into. Place BUT i mean it's twenty twenty, six,
- 1:48:44Speaker 9: man you never. Know it's just funny how things work.
- 1:48:46Speaker 9: Out but where The kraken wind up now in seventh?
- 1:48:49Speaker 9: Overall this is gonna be kind OF i, think a
- 1:48:51Speaker 9: big decision for them because you have a player who's
- 1:48:54Speaker 9: going to be very, serviceable but he could be about
- 1:48:56Speaker 9: two or three years, away which then leads this into
- 1:48:59Speaker 9: the conversation of from about two weeks, ago they want
- 1:49:02Speaker 9: to be aggressive and overturn of the. Roster, again we've
- 1:49:05Speaker 9: heard this once, more so now you have the conversation.
- 1:49:09Speaker 9: Opening how useful can that pick be if you find
- 1:49:13Speaker 9: the right guy out there to immediately upgrade the, roster
- 1:49:16Speaker 9: because that's what it might cost plus more to get that.
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: Done, okay all, right and yeah that would be my.
- 1:49:22Speaker 6: Thought and then kind of combining the, TWO i, mean
- 1:49:26Speaker 6: if they're not happy With Austin matthews In toronto and
- 1:49:29Speaker 6: now they've got McKenna to replace him and start this new.
- 1:49:33Speaker 6: Era what would it take to Proy matthews loose From? Toronto,
- 1:49:38Speaker 6: Well i'll start with the seventh overall.
- 1:49:40Speaker 9: PICK i think you have to start there and go
- 1:49:44Speaker 9: a bit. Higher And i'm talking about multiple, Picks, Chuck
- 1:49:47Speaker 9: i'm talking about roster players, Maybe BUT i think it's
- 1:49:51Speaker 9: very much an unknown because of how much the shakedown has,
- 1:49:54Speaker 9: gone you, know to every corner on This Maple leafs,
- 1:49:57Speaker 9: roster which even includes a brand NEW gm And John
- 1:49:59Speaker 9: shake who just got there about two weeks. Ago so
- 1:50:02Speaker 9: How Jason botterl maneuvers this we don't know. Yet but
- 1:50:06Speaker 9: HERE'S i think the biggest challenge of this in That
- 1:50:09Speaker 9: Austin matthews has got as much control over this presumably
- 1:50:13Speaker 9: as anybody ELSE i, think just based on the years
- 1:50:16Speaker 9: that he's Play plus also he has a no movement,
- 1:50:18Speaker 9: clause and so he's got you, know basically full rights
- 1:50:22Speaker 9: to where he wants to go and kind of control
- 1:50:25Speaker 9: this thing with a salary that's already at thirteen point
- 1:50:28Speaker 9: two million and has got two more years to. Go
- 1:50:31Speaker 9: ken The kraken make that.
- 1:50:33Speaker 4: Fit.
- 1:50:33Speaker 9: Absolutely the problem is it's gonna be fierce. Competition should
- 1:50:37Speaker 9: he move on to get a player like That, UTAH
- 1:50:40Speaker 9: i hear is very much in the.
- 1:50:42Speaker 4: Mix Los.
- 1:50:43Speaker 9: Angeles they're moving on FROM.
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: Anj.
- 1:50:45Speaker 9: Copatar they're a star driven. Market they want against somebody
- 1:50:48Speaker 9: else in there that that city is really heating up
- 1:50:51Speaker 9: as far as the, Conversation so it's going to take a,
- 1:50:54Speaker 9: lot AND i think going to take a lot as
- 1:50:56Speaker 9: far as you, know getting a player like him here
- 1:50:59Speaker 9: to convince him to, move but also be a part
- 1:51:02Speaker 9: of something where The kraken may be a bit further back,
- 1:51:05Speaker 9: behind you, Know utah Versus Los. Angeles SO i kind
- 1:51:09Speaker 9: of go back to The artimy's an Arranting. Chuck he
- 1:51:11Speaker 9: might recall that about roughly three months ago when they
- 1:51:14Speaker 9: nearly got him of the, deadline but he wasn't going
- 1:51:17Speaker 9: anywhere But Los, angeles and he had full control over.
- 1:51:20Speaker 9: This so to find the right, guy it's going to
- 1:51:22Speaker 9: take the right kind of. Hall but For Austin, matthews my,
- 1:51:26Speaker 9: goodness if he moves, on you're talking about a king's
- 1:51:28Speaker 9: ransom part in the.
- 1:51:29Speaker 6: Expression he can still play, RIGHT i mean he. Hasn't
- 1:51:32Speaker 6: he didn't have a very good year this, year but
- 1:51:33Speaker 6: he can.
- 1:51:33Speaker 9: Still play, Right, no he can see, absolutely he can still.
- 1:51:37Speaker 9: Play he's only twenty eight years of aase chuck that's
- 1:51:39Speaker 9: basically prime years in THE. Nhl he just basically he
- 1:51:43Speaker 9: was basically held back just by A Maple leaf team
- 1:51:45Speaker 9: that was going absolutely. Nowhere they've had just a complete decimated,
- 1:51:50Speaker 9: culture just overtake their entire dressing room and their entire
- 1:51:55Speaker 9: locker room and their entire leadership here for this past.
- 1:51:58Speaker 9: YEAR i, mean to get a guy who he's got
- 1:52:00Speaker 9: twenty seven goals and fifty three points and call that
- 1:52:03Speaker 9: a massive down year is a major. Ad he's still
- 1:52:05Speaker 9: got capabilities of going to eighty ninety one hundred. Points
- 1:52:09Speaker 9: he did sort of one hundred point mark about a
- 1:52:11Speaker 9: couple of years ago and nearly got seventy. Goals, SO i,
- 1:52:14Speaker 9: mean he's a big rock that you need right in
- 1:52:17Speaker 9: the middle oft one. Scene just the biggest issue here
- 1:52:20Speaker 9: is just the competition that's going to be out there
- 1:52:22Speaker 9: to get somebody like him and find a trade package
- 1:52:26Speaker 9: that is going to match over take that or even
- 1:52:28Speaker 9: when it comes to extension time and give him all
- 1:52:30Speaker 9: that he.
- 1:52:30Speaker 6: Wants is McMahon still number one priority for The crack
- 1:52:34Speaker 6: in this.
- 1:52:34Speaker 9: Offseason, yes, absolutely BECAUSE i think they showed him enough
- 1:52:39Speaker 9: as far as where he, fits how that shot fits
- 1:52:42Speaker 9: in this, lineup the speed that he plays, with and
- 1:52:45Speaker 9: it just checks off all the boxes as far as
- 1:52:47Speaker 9: the kind of guy that they want to use with
- 1:52:51Speaker 9: the gradual overturn of this. ROSTER i mean we're well,
- 1:52:54Speaker 9: past you, know year, one year two where this is all,
- 1:52:57Speaker 9: about you, Know jared, McCann jaden, towards et, cetera et.
- 1:53:02Speaker 9: Cetera jordan neverlely signed up here for the next two.
- 1:53:04Speaker 9: Years he wants to be a part of the cure
- 1:53:06Speaker 9: and not part of the disease, here IF i can
- 1:53:08Speaker 9: use that. Expression, so you, know getting a guy like,
- 1:53:11Speaker 9: McMahon this was you, know going through a few channels
- 1:53:14Speaker 9: Including Lane. Lambert he knows what he got or he
- 1:53:17Speaker 9: knew what he got out of him because he coached
- 1:53:19Speaker 9: him last year In. Toronto he plays a kind of,
- 1:53:22Speaker 9: straightforward straight line. Game that's a term that's often used
- 1:53:25Speaker 9: in THE nhl to cut the to, tell to talk
- 1:53:28Speaker 9: about a guy who is willing to go to the,
- 1:53:30Speaker 9: net not move around to the. Outside and quite, frankly
- 1:53:33Speaker 9: there have been too many players who have played you
- 1:53:35Speaker 9: know that opposite type of way for the first four,
- 1:53:38Speaker 9: years and not enough guys who play the way that
- 1:53:40Speaker 9: kind of like McMahon. Plays with the, differences, though is
- 1:53:44Speaker 9: a shot that he possesses as an absolute game, changer
- 1:53:46Speaker 9: and we saw what he can do playing With Maddy,
- 1:53:48Speaker 9: veneer's we saw what he can do playing With Chandler.
- 1:53:50Speaker 9: Stevenson he's not exactly a guy who is reliant on one,
- 1:53:54Speaker 9: guy and that's what's so. Valuable will they have to
- 1:53:57Speaker 9: overpay for. Him i've said this, Before i'll say it, again,
- 1:54:01Speaker 9: Absolutely AND i think the even trickier challenge, Here chuck
- 1:54:05Speaker 9: is that this free agent class is so paper thin right.
- 1:54:09Speaker 9: Now there's just not much talent out. There the salary
- 1:54:11Speaker 9: cap went, Up you've got teams who are re upping
- 1:54:14Speaker 9: guys left and, right and less star are sitting in
- 1:54:17Speaker 9: the market now these, days so it's going to take
- 1:54:20Speaker 9: a massive play to get him. HERE i think the
- 1:54:23Speaker 9: big difference, though is that he understands the new beginnings
- 1:54:26Speaker 9: he had here versus what he got out of In.
- 1:54:29Speaker 9: Toronto and it's not like he just got through off
- 1:54:32Speaker 9: the play In game eighty two and Said i'm cleaning
- 1:54:35Speaker 9: out my. Lockers see you later he was hanging around
- 1:54:37Speaker 9: for about a few days in town golf trip with
- 1:54:39Speaker 9: plenty of a few cracking. Teammates so you know the
- 1:54:43Speaker 9: press is already on to basically keep him, here to
- 1:54:46Speaker 9: get him to stay long. Term and you know we heard,
- 1:54:49Speaker 9: it you know from, us we heard it from, me
- 1:54:51Speaker 9: and show he likes what he has right. Now BUT i,
- 1:54:53Speaker 9: mean if you're, McMahon you'd be a fool to not, say,
- 1:54:55Speaker 9: HEY i want to see what's maybe out there Because
- 1:54:58Speaker 9: i'm an undrafted free agent AND i want to see
- 1:55:00Speaker 9: what could be there for the big payday because it
- 1:55:03Speaker 9: may be my only big payday right. Now SO i
- 1:55:06Speaker 9: like the, chances but it's gonna be it's gonna, REQUIRE i,
- 1:55:08Speaker 9: think a waiting game to finally get him locked down.
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: Here you are, fabulous.
- 1:55:12Speaker 6: Sir thank you very much for your, time for your
- 1:55:14Speaker 6: information here this, morning and just thank you for being,
- 1:55:18Speaker 6: You Mike.
- 1:55:18Speaker 9: MINTON i appreciate. YOU i always aspire to be, you
- 1:55:24Speaker 9: AND i hope that my, car my wife's, car at,
- 1:55:26Speaker 9: least can get back up and running just like your
- 1:55:28Speaker 9: motor goes in six or ten.
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: Am how does that? Sound thank, You? Michael, yeah you.
- 1:55:34Speaker 4: Bet Thanks.
- 1:55:34Speaker 6: Johr Mike menton joining us right here On chuck And
- 1:55:37Speaker 6: buck in the, morning follow him at Menton.
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: Underscore mike love having him on.
- 1:55:42Speaker 6: To talk The, kraken and, yes it's nice to hear
- 1:55:46Speaker 6: that hockey people are as suspicious AS i am about the.
- 1:55:49Speaker 6: Lobbies that's, right it's all. Rigg you know it's Rig,
- 1:55:53Speaker 6: Batman you are a stern clone, rigger all. Right one
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