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Start Me Up: Writer, Sarah Wood · Start Me Up with Kimberley A. Johnson

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Star Media Podcast, part of MSW Media, the sexy liberal podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Kimberly Johnson in DC, today my returning guest is Sarah Wood, writer, Sarah Wood, we love Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, please enjoy my conversation with Sarah Wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show, Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, I'm very glad to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for being here and it's, you know, it's so, I, I said on my patrons only show earlier this week because I had reached out to another guest, another possible guest, and I never heard back and I said, you know, I haven't heard anything and I said, there's always Sarah, I said, I love Sarah,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want her to think that I'm only, you know, having her on because other people can't make it, but because you're so, you and I do similar work, you're available a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The partner who I was in my being a backup, I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You may be a backup on my podcast, but you're an awesome person all together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for being here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so everything's crazy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's something going on at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's everything's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to start off with my grocery store diaries because I always talked to the grocery store people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a woman that I spoke with the other day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said this on Bob's show though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was, you know, I always kind of feel people out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say something like, don't forget to vote, or I'll say, you know, it's a crazy world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I wait and see what they say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see what, how did, you know, and this particular woman that I was talking to, she was Latina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I can't, you know, and I had a feeling she wasn't a Trump supporter, but you know, I'm kind of feeling or I kind of know we're a little bit, but we've never talked about politics, so she's shaking her head like yeah, everything's crazy and I don't know somehow she brings up that Trump is crazy and I just looked at her and I said, you know, he's a child rapist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, how come he's not in jail?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like we're going on, the other people in line are chiming in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she kind of like, as she's ringing me up, she leans in to let me know quietly that she gave me like the, it was like some store discount of 20% that I didn't have a coupon for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I called Trump a pet a file and she gave me a discount.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should think she'd be rewarded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: calling out a pedophile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god so yeah that was that was good so okay let me ask you how how how concerned were you that he was gonna nuke around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Tuesday was a weird day for me because I I run social media for the Sean Harris campaign so we were at my head space was so in
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[SPEAKER_01]: that world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm literally like, we got up early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to the polling place for media, whatever, that's not in the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I literally got an alert on my phone that said, and I literally was like, oh, Trump just threatened genocide, but even worse than genocide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like straight out war crimes like we're going to kill it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to annihilate an entire civilization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, it's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had to like keep
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, was I worried, yes, I was worried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh shit, we're going into nuclear war.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I will say that my gut, which means not much, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My gut thought, Kamala was going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my gut, I didn't think we were going to go to nuclear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That does not mean I think people should listen to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, it just that was my gut feeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Bob had been saying, my boyfriend Bob Souska had been saying, you know, this is all about stock market manipulation, which interestingly,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I just didn't think he would do it and then of course I got splamed to because, you know, I'm a woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do I know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I was splamed to is because I said, um, I don't think the Trump isn't the one who's going to put his finger on the button.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People would have to follow his orders in order to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I, you know, I was just thinking, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sure he could follow everybody and I mean, fire everybody until he gets somebody to say yes, because that's absolutely a possibility, but at the same time, these people who would have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: are probably younger than Trump and going to have to live in a world with nuclear fallout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, we've had nuclear weapons and we've had nuclear, you know, meltdowns in the past, but I have a feeling that, you know, once somebody sets off a nuclear weapon in the year 2026,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That just opens the door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not over with one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, we've had stuff happen in the past, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my whole point was, there are people who are going to have to live when Trump is dead, and we're going to have to navigate this world, and do we really want to risk that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, of course, I got a bunch of planners explaining to me that Trump is the only one who can make that order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know!
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know!
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also know that he's not the one pushing the button other people are involved and that's all I said I'm just I'm so fucking tired of this planers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so tired of them and I said something on blue sky today Like come on everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're on edge, but stop being fucking so condescending and so spleeny It's not gonna stop everybody's gonna do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody's freaking out Yeah, everyone's a nuclear proliferation expert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know it's like okay
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I've always like, yeah, I'm going to give you my gut feeling, but that doesn't fucking mean anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everyone was calling it taco Tuesday because like, yeah, because he, I call it the art of bankruptcy, because in this deal, that he supposedly got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, was it like you had to like spend 200, $2 million to get through the street or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, before it was free,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't, I just can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll post the movie, they're like, no, this is a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, have you seen those animations that Iran's putting out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I was actually talking with friends this morning about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has to have seen them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know though, they protect him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if they do protect him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They protect him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly sometimes believe that when he says things, he believes that's what's happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he totally does because he is just fed every line, especially now when his late stage dementia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, they're just feeding him lines and he's just saying them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I noticed it when I, his teleprompter, because usually he would, in the past, he would go off book and just start spewing this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're now these very unscript and he'll be reading the words and he'll pronounce the words wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the night I saw a thing where JD advances pronouncing one of the words Trump pronounced Trump just like to kiss his ass or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that on social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, there's also the idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, following that epistemic crisis doctor, which I never can say in the name correctly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he always talks about Trump's
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[SPEAKER_00]: How can I, is it frontal temporal, frontal temporal, low, dementia, something, I can't, I can never say it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why it won't stick in my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what he has and his brain is out to fingers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically, the difference between what he has and Alzheimer's is that, with Alzheimer's, you'll forget.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then with this, you make up like, you fill in the gaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like a lie and then you believe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what his brain is doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he doesn't know what's going on, he fills in those gaps and it becomes a story that he believes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we are with the fucking guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my grandmother had dementia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my mom tried to take care of her at home as long as she could until it became dangerous because she would take her oxygen out and not put it back in, stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we ended up putting her in a system that, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: assistive facility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's like that's where he needs to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where he should be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And no television.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can you imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I guess no, he could only watch cartoons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: only watch South Park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just have to share this story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not too much information because I'm not getting into the details of it, but I had a gynecological appointment yesterday, and it was funny because she was a new gynecologist for me, and I really like her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Much more than my old gynecologist who I liked well enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so, this particular woman, I don't even know how to pronounce her name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where she's from, but she's a person of color and I like her so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's super nice and bedside man or the whole mind, but I'm looking at her and I'm guessing she's probably not maga, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking and everything, just like I always do and I kind of feel her out a little bit and I talk about the crazy world and so she said, she looked at me and she said something
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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even know, oh, I think I did tell her that I was liberal, and then, and that I was a podcaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she said to me, yeah, well, you know, we still have like three more years of this, and so I thought, okay, she hates Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, you know, but he's gonna die soon, and she goes, she really hates Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I said, and then she goes, it's funny you said that, because all my friends are telling me he's gonna die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought, okay, she probably went home and talked to her husband or whoever she's where I think goes, yeah, my patient said Trump's gonna die and then like I went home and told everybody that my guy in the college just, and I were talking about Trump dying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how bad it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, she, she was just disgusted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course the area that I live in
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[SPEAKER_00]: I found out that actually the town that I live in and I'm not going to say the name of it, but it is like the most or one of the most diverse cities in the country, and it's just because I mean, we're so close to DC and like everybody, you know, I mean, there's a huge
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[SPEAKER_00]: population of like everything, you know, it's, and I remember when I was a little girl living in Maryland, it wasn't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I don't remember, I do remember diversity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't remember it as diverse plus at the time I was not living where I am now, which is much closer to DC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously the closer you get, but Maryland is a very, very diverse, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it feels good when I go out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What, what does it feel like for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When when you're going out, you get us because I have been getting a sense of more people feeling and boldened to speak up about how much they don't like what's happening than I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you experiencing that or do you just keep to yourself and not say anything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I always talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I drive my wife crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I do feel like there is definitely a shift and people just like, they're out of flux and they're just gonna speak with on their mind and they're gonna say it and they're not afraid to say it as much anymore like they're not caring about pissing off their neighbors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as much like, and I'll get it from like, I'll even, yeah, like when I went to my doctor's office, like, people are like, they find out what I do, like I went to the eye doctor and like, you find out, they find out what you do and they kind of like secretly let you know that like they're with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate seeing this, but it's so very Nazi like, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's winking and nudging like, I'm not a Nazi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a Nazi, and that's really basically what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, that is what it is people are basically saying, I'm not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you can trust me, I'm not exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've been feeling that way since the first, you know, especially when I moved to Maryland and, you know, walking around in a white and a blonde and I'm thinking, I hope they don't think that I'm a Trump supporter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would like go out of my way to make sure people, I was, I'm always friendly, that's my nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always been that way, but I'm extra friendly because I don't want, you know, it's a combination of genuinely wanting to be loving
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, make people feel good and smile and give them a compliment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always been like that, but I really recognize now how important it is because, you know, talking about the community and how important community is and when we have strong communities authoritarianism can't really survive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just, I do my best and, you know, I talk up anybody, I mean, it's so funny because the other day I was getting gas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have such crazy weather on these coasts right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some days it's like 80 degrees, some days it's 30 degrees, so it's just all over the map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And on the days that are warm, we're getting like lots and lots of bumblebees, the big, big bumblebees, and they're dive bombing and bumble chunks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and my mom was complaint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I was trying to garden and I just kept dying bombing me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was at the gas station and there was this woman filling up her car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She started screaming at the dying bombing bumblebees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I stopped laughing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just a stupid little conversation about bees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we connected and we laughed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just feel like it's really important to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also have noticed that even though everything is going nuts and falling apart, I'm not noticing people like on the street, I feel like there's a little bit of a sense of aside from the Lincoln and Nudge, I'm not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there it does seem to be like this desire to be friendly and I don't know if I'm just picking up on that because I'm looking for like are you noticing people are friendly or you find them more rude because of something's happening in the air that's what it feels like to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like more friendly honestly like and unless they're maga and then they don't they're not very nice
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think there is, there is a little bit, it's shifting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I live in a blue staggy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just came from the, I just came from the right as district in Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was it like there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was it like there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The people there are lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't have a bad conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grants that I was around mostly Democrats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is, they want change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They definitely want change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the prices are crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of them are farmers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the diesel costs are way up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fertilizer costs are way up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like people are looking for change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like the diehard maga loyalist that's still voted for the Trump and Doris candidate, but I think I've had so many Republicans come up to me and be like, you know, we're pulling for Sean, we're wow Sean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're wow for Sean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that is a major miscalculation by the Republican Party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're there be like, oh, it's a solid Ruby red district.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is also interesting, you know, Kinsinger wrote a piece on sub-stack, I think it was last week, but he was talking about why Republicans are sticking with Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really think this is the best region.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's definitely a compliment involved with some of them, but Kinsinger said that it was basically about all these Republicans want to move on from, and I'm gonna say this in air quotes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Public service.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they want to move on to the private sector and make all kinds of money from the oligarchs when they're finished.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not going to be able to do that if they're speaking out against Trump now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think there is something to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's, I think it's a combination of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're also Lisa McCarthy said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that a lot of them are, you know, getting threatened and they're afraid to go against Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because all they have to do is go against him and then he puts out one post and then their family's in danger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like their family is at risk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's that and then whatever a compliment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I look at Lindsey Graham, I know there's a compliment on Lindsey Graham.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I've heard about the compliment, but regardless of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look what he posted in 2016, he's going to destroy everything and then he did and now he's like summing around in his rectum He's been swimming around in his rectum since 2016 So I think one day, you know, you just brought Lens in to the office look what we have shut the fuck up Lensie Like we all know he's dating so I'm like what so that it has to be something it is Okay, I said it on my last show without saying it and I'll I'll do it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll I'll be vague so back in the day
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[SPEAKER_00]: How can I say this, back in the day when Lindsey was young?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were lots of, I'll just say it like this, there were lots of young under age male prostitutes at the hill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Under age, that's what I heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just what I heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tracks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't, I can't prove it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, somebody told me a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just magically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that's true,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like like just what you said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody gives a shit that Lindsey Graham is gay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one cares.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one cares.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like none of us would be people like, yeah, we already know he's gay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're already like, I think you know there might be a few, yeah, there might be a few Republicans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like there's this couple that I watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say their name because I don't want to be rude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure they're maga.
18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but they fascinate me and they're on YouTube and it's this guy.
18:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a couple.
18:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a husband and wife and I know he's gay.
18:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows he's gay.
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, there's a, what do you call it?
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a some kind of gossip website that talks about YouTube people.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So I went to that gossip website just to read and of course That's something everyone said it I'm sure these people were maga too.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they were and they were all saying that he's gay and so I don't know like and I'm looking at this guy and I'm like Doesn't her family know
19:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't look they know he's so a feminist.
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, Goma Pile.
19:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He sounds like when he talks, it's got like a Goma Pile kind of a thing going on.
19:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's obviously gay.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, is it that they know and they don't want to say anything?
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like grinder outages.
19:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But if there's ever a kind of kind of event, yeah, like it's like,
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They always say too, like the ones that say like being gay is a choice, well, it was a choice for them because they chose to be straight or a straight life style.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, yeah, they want to, they want to legislate so that they don't, they don't want gay to get married because they don't want that to be an option for themselves.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's just a little bit.
20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so hatred.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be a hell of hatred.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be a self-hatred, like they don't want to, they want to live their conservative life.
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But they don't want to be like, oh, but if I'm gay,
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so I don't know what would happen.
20:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, doesn't he Graham?
20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: If he came out and said, look, I'm gay, would they care?
20:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't know.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they would still vote for him over a Democrat.
20:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, fucking Megan Kelly just said, if Trump nooks, I ran, she'd still vote for him.
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: She just, she sent that because I just saw a thing where she was going off on him.
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I saw both.
20:40
[SPEAKER_00]: She asked, she said that on her own show.
20:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And then later, to Pierce, I think it wasn't it to Pierce, what's his name, who blocked me and I hate him.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she went off on Trump.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was on his show or not.
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, so first, she said she would vote for him if he nukes around.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after he said he was going to annihilate everybody, that's when she said something like, you know, enough is enough.
21:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the one I saw.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And she said something about human.
21:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like being at can't can you just act human.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And she like dropped.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: She dropped an F bomb.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's, you know what?
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of them because Tucker Carlson, even Joe Rogan's.
21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They're dropping them off.
21:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They're dropping off the cult.
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: What do they call the cult experts call it like breaking the shelf or something like that where it's like.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Once the shelf, like it's going to start, like it's starting.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It's starting.
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're seeing the beginnings of it.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: People are traveling.
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going of this cult.
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I had knitting.
21:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to keep reminding everybody, and she was very popular, but knitting cult lady was on my show.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I asked her what happens when Trump dies, and she said basically, the cult members just go find new conspiracy theories and new cults to join.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that's going to be the hardcore, like, I don't know, 30% of the mega base.
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and you're going to be, it's going to be a power vacuum of, like, in the soils trying to get in there and to be the next Trump.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to see it, and it's going to be, that's the way to put it.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be very amusing.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, terrifying.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think, though, I mean, no matter how awful they get.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: There are enough people like you're talking about the farmers the farmers are really freaking out I mean so are weak because there could be a food shortage.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: There could be a fucking food crisis in this country And they're really right.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah when there never should be we have plenty But yeah, I think that it's not gonna sell it when you when you look at the guy John Harris I think didn't he win?
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm sorry didn't Marjorie Taylor Green
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember what it was.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think did she win by like 30 points or so?
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: We're, oh yeah, she didn't get correct.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No, she kicked Shonsas.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, she was like, it was like, it was a large margin.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's like 30 points though.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think last night he or the other night he only lost by like 11 points.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's okay.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So there it is.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So even though he lost and it's a deep red district and they still went for the mega lunatic, that's not the entire country.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a deep red.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: state.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, there's going to be, and like you said, there's the whole bunch of Republicans who said, I'm not, you know, I'm in a vote for Sean.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to play out every lot of them.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it was it was that I think that's a calculation and nobody was talking about was like, oh, we'll get the Democrats out of it.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, but they were a lot of Republicans who who came out and voted for him.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I mean, obviously, obviously this whole thing that's happening with Iran and the Epstein files and all of it, it's just going to lead to I think we're going to have a blowout and I think, you know, in November and I know he's going to try to stop it, but I don't think he's going to be able to do it, but here's the scary part to me.
24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: is after the election, and until January, 2027, because they're going to go fucking back to your crazy in that time frame, and that lame duck session.
24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And is that what it's called?
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's what it's called.
24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when a president, I know what my terms are getting off fucked up, but you know what I mean?
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Between Democrats are going to do well, we're going to have this blue, I think tsunami.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We should have a fucking tsunami, and then Republicans are going to remain in power until January.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably two months they're going to try to push through as much as they can.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going to do everything they can.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, I think Democrats will be ready for that.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to understand that, but it's going to be a fucking nightmare.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a headache, and it's going to be really difficult.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to talk to you about, um,
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea that the military is going to go along with Trump or not go like I heard somebody saying that I know that Pete is firing everybody so that they're just going to bunch of yes people.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But some of these military people are not necessarily going along there either quitting or they're not doing some So I'm just wondering like and I heard somebody say yeah if Trump decides to go for Greenland That's just gonna be the end of it the military's gonna be like no fucking way, but I don't know I don't know I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt I just am really fascinating to say so one of my friends this morning when we're talking about the around my go
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, little face pointed out that LEGO is based out of Denmark and Denmark opens Greenland.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, interesting.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So the truth is a little, I don't know.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That was planned, but it's interesting.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That is.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, oh, my god, those fucking videos.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're calling them a peto.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They're calling them tiny hands.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're just basically telling the truth.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's really interesting how Americans are rooting for Iran, not to annihilate us, but to like, fuck with Trump.
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to fuck with the president of the United States.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Americans are cheering this on.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where we are.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the weirdest fucking timeline, but, you know, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna get slightly woo-woo for a second.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a woman that I listen to only occasionally.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really listen to her very much.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a psychic woman.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she goes by the name of Linda G. And I know that she's on YouTube and I know she's been accurate.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: She's an older woman.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know she's made some predictions that have come true.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They all make predictions that don't come true.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But every once in a while they'll say something.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So she's pretty good.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was kind of saying
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: that Iran is going to be, how did she phrase it?
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I basically, that Iran's going through some changes.
27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I mean, I look at everything that's happening and it's awful and it's scary and people are dying and I always say this because I don't want to be misunderstood.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not saying anything that's happening right now is good.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all awful.
27:16
[SPEAKER_00]: However, you have to look at
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're in this shitty situation and we don't want to only stay focused on what's negative about it and what's upsetting.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We also want to look forward to the future and find, you know, that place, the solutions, the place where we're a democracy again.
27:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's always how I look at it and it's just, it seems to me that, you know, Trump and Stein just keep stepping on and breaking everything and he's upsetting everybody.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And the more he upsets everybody, the more there's like going to be a unity in the country kind of like,
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: George Bush told everybody, even though it was stupid and fucking advice, go to the mall after 9-11 and he gave this, you know, he gave this really, you know, raw raw speech about the United States and one of the things that it did, regardless of it was stupid advice, people did feel unified to a degree.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all felt a certain amount of, you know,
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We loved our country, we had patriotism and not the patriotism that magus spews, not their corrupt version of it, but literal patriotism, I think Americans really felt that.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think what's happening is more and more people are starting to kind of come together and realize.
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish, I swear to God, I wish that we could have,
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and this, this is why Fox News and OAN and all these, you know, places or newsmax or whatever, all do so well because if we could all just get together with our neighbors and our, our mega relatives without any propaganda and talk about things, I think we would all, you know, of course, we would have differences.
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we would all agree on a lot of stuff.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, absolutely, we would agree on more than we disagree.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I just do love debating reasonable Republicans.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we would disagree on policy, but you could still hold a conversation in the laugh.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it would be, it's like, it was a very human.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's just like, it's us versus them.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And they go, it's, it's
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's trying to convince someone to get out of their religion and they're going to, and they take it poorly.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so we've got this build up and build up and build up and it's getting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and it's just getting to a point where you're having Megan Cali say.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she defended pedophilia, basically.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: She was defending it.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I think because she was like, well, they weren't eight or nine.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They were 15 and when you're 15, you look like a woman.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's okay when you rape a 15 year old.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad that Megan Kelly, that Alex Jones, obviously Nick Fuentes is already out.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where everything goes.
29:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know everything splinters, but what this means for voting is that these people are going to be all over the fucking place, and it just benefits us.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It benefits the Democrats, and we're going to need that benefit because we've definitely got
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: a real issue with the progressive wing of younger Democrats or just more progressive Democrats and the old guard of Democrats.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a fight that no one likes, but it's real and it's happening.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's upsetting.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: because anybody who's going to stay home or not vote for whoever the Democrat is because they're not progressive enough is hurting us and I wish they would see that but they don't.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So we are up against some of those people again and I feel like the only way we overcome it is through this breaking up of maga because that's going to bring a lot of those people
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: either not voting at all or some of them might even come over or not, you know, they're they're going to vote for a spoiler who's going to help the democrat.
30:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I do see positive things and then, okay, I've just got to bring this up because it's like Trump goes missing and then everyone's.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole fucking world is like, is he dead?
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he dead?
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like for two days, did he die on Easter?
31:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he die on them?
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want him to die on Easter because if he dies on Easter, that's gonna be so, oh my God.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill, make a whole thing on my God.
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, he's coming.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He died for us again.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll, oh my God, please, no.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So thankfully he didn't die on Easter.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like, we all thought he was dead and then of course he shows up.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And but what what happens on Easter he shows up on Easter with his big fast swollen hand with 30 pounds of sparkle on it so and it was funny because Keith Edwards had posted the day I think it was Saturday when there was like where's Trump he's gone missing as he dead as he does you dead and he's like okay everybody whatever guy guards Trump in front of the oval was there so he's like anytime Trump is in the oval office this guy is there so I'm assuming Trump is in the oval.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, as we see Trump on Sunday with this big Bruce.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I don't know that he went to Walter Reed, but also, yeah, I wouldn't put it past Trump putting the Marine out there, just before us.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, just before us, I really wouldn't put it, I really wouldn't put it past.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, I saw Keith Edwards saying that and I was like,
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we really thinking that Trump wouldn't want to carry out or leave anything they do?
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But even if it were true, like even if Trump were there, he could probably have this, you know, whatever they're doing to his dead veins in his hand, they're going to need a central line soon.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to have any veins left.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And his hands are...
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna die.
32:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I fucking know it.
32:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He's dying.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I don't know when, but there's this thing in my gut.
32:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's in my gut.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I swear, I think it's...
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna happen this year.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't think he's gonna make it.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that we're still in a big pile of shit when he dies.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is the... Oh, no.
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say that.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I just heard of getting my house up.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is it's like reverse it.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if he were your father and you loved him very much.
33:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And you were looking at him.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: What would you think?
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you wouldn't know nobody knows when nobody can predict just like with my grandmother we got her into hospital Yeah, and we and she lived her the rest of her she lived a couple more years and she lived comfortably right That's what needs to happen.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, right, but that's not what's gonna happen That's not what's gonna happen.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because they're propping them up.
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They're giving them drugs and you know And it's like the saliva in his mouth is pulling and he's trying and that's a bad sign people with dementia have pulling saliva
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always seconded back in, and he's trying to make it look like that action of sucking back his saliva is an intentional emphasis on whatever he's saying, but it's really like a trick because it's just he's fucking dying, and so I, you know, it's like I know about the getting your hopes up thing, but it's like if it were your family member, you would be looking at it like, oh my God, they don't have long.
34:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know when, but all you have to do is look at him and listen to him.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He is his brain is just like, he doesn't look well at all because you even look at him like 10 years ago when he was campaigning.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Or even for like four years ago.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, holy shit.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had COVID.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember he was gasping for air, he almost died.
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was like the he almost died from COVID.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said COVID twice, I think, at least at least twice.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and so I don't, you know, I mean, I don't know what that's going to mean for whatever health issues he has, but you know, all the studies coming out don't look good.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus he got COVID before there was any kind of vaccine.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, I've heard that, you know, I've seen articles about
34:51
[SPEAKER_00]: you know that could be detrimental in some cases depending on your age and health issues and whatnot.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean like I said, no one knows for sure all we know is doctors are looking at him and anybody with a brain is looking at him and saying the guy is dying.
35:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So could he last another three years of course he could?
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But like it's a joke to even be worried about him being president again in 2028.
35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a joke.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to happen.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And right now they don't have anybody.
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: There is nobody in that world that could take his charismatic place because he is filled with charisma for the people that love him.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the rest of the people are just afraid of him.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just, they're going along with it for whatever reason because they're afraid,
35:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to try.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to try to feed the next trumpet.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to happen again.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Not for a long time.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: There's always, you know, I mean, we did give him the perfect storm of, you know,
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: With Citizens United, with the Tea Party, with the Moral Majority, all these things over the years, set it all up for this to happen, and, you know, this is part of the making.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, even on our side of the aisle, on the Democratic side, you know, because of Citizens United, our side is taking money.
36:17
[SPEAKER_00]: that it's such bullshit in order to be competitive, you have to, and then you have to answer to these people.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it sucks, man, because then it hamstrings us when it's really important.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that what the last thing I want to talk about since we're talking about that money and all that stuff, because there's a whole thing about Democrats not taking certain
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a pretty big pool right now of possibilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know I'm jumping ahead of myself, blah, blah, blah, but it's my podcast, and I can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I saw with 2028, so far, is Kamala Harris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, she has not put her hat in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has not such use running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is just a list of potentials.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the list in front of me, but I'm going to name off the ones that I can remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Klobuchar, I know there was Mark Kelly,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess providing, if what's his name, off-off wins, again, I think then he would be a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pritzker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, Skirt, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: New some.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember the other women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, Whitmer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, Whitmer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so out like people to judge, that's another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ruben and I, go when it was talking about it already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there are a bunch, we have a pretty deep bench.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, you know what, I have to say, out of all those people, with the exception of Newsom, I kind of like all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would vote for any of them if it's, if they become the nominee, just don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love Newsom, I'm never going to love Newsom, but if he's the
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what would be out of all those people that we just talked about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a preference?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to say I love Pete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Pete, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm so stuck because off of somebody called him a sleeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, even though I'm not a fan, but that's you're not a fan of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would go for him if he was not me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why are I not a fan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not a fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I see in him and I think what other people are seeing is I have my reasons that I can't talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks, he's got, he's nice looking, he's young, he's articulate, he's got like an energy of Obama, he's not Obama, but like that kind of all, he could all of a sudden come and explore it on the scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're not gonna agree with me on that, but that's why he's great, like he's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he's got charisma, he's handsome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the, he's from Georgia, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you get Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get that to be spoken, thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He I think he could do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think he could do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would vote for him if he was the nominee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that they're.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have said publicly that I think it should be a white man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that feminist fucking hate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not the hated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm a real businessman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a real businessman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to win in this country hates women, and we just have to acknowledge that this country hates women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I am as feminist as you could fucking get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you go to my Instagram feed, you're going to be like, holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants to murder every man on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, that's not true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I get paid to help win elections.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that this country is racist in this country hates women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and we have to go from there and I hate that, but it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing, you know, in fact there's somebody who used to be on my podcast and I have a feeling, it's a woman and she's a feminist and I have a feeling that she saw me saying, you know, that I think that for a while I was saying Mark Kelly, I may not, I'm not stuck on him like I used to be, I got my dad stuck on him though, but, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she saw that I said it's not that I don't believe in the women I do believe women could do a fucking amazing job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that, it's like what you just said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about, and it's about the electoral college because they did vote for Hillary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because of the electoral college she lost because Russia and all the cheaters knew where to put all their focus when they needed to put their focus there and you know when it came to disinformation, internet disinformation and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got that playing against a women and also the misogyny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think that it's got to be a white man and I don't like saying that.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think people to judge could make it.
40:57
[SPEAKER_00]: People argue with me, here's the interesting part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go after him because he's gay and you know, it really pisses me the fuck off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he really does, all the Democrats say, all the Democrats say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Lindsey Graham, nobody cares, or if Lindsey Graham is gay, no one cares.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But all of a sudden, everyone cares when people do judges' gay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and I can't win, they can't win in this up.
41:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, first of all, Democrats don't win in the focus out.
41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, let's put that out there right now.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know Pete could win in like Arizona, Pennsylvania, and, you know, Wisconsin, and Michigan, and like, he's an Indiana guy, and he lives in Michigan.
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, let's...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at the reality of plus which plus is so good.
41:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He is so well spoken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets the message out there and like I've seen it on Fox news and he's been like in goes where people he answers the tough questions He goes where people don't want to go and he nails it he nails it every time I've seen him live a few times now and he's just
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's amazing, but let me just say this too.
42:00
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're comparing the two of Nusum and Buddha Judge, now I'm gonna praise Nusum because he is a master at trolling Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really good at it and he's and that and it in part helps
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[SPEAKER_00]: the voters because we feel like we've got a fighter and we've got somebody who will go there and then you've got somebody like Pete who would never do that he would never so like I love that Gavin will but I also love that Pete doesn't because Pete handles it more like the adult and he's so measured and he's so like and he's been in front of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, conservative audience for years on Fox, letting them get to know him, the and see that he's not screaming and he's not yelling, he never gets crazy emotional, like Trump does, and you know, and he's just fucking even.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think being gay is going to hurt him at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there would be, I think the hardcore people wouldn't vote for him.
43:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But they wouldn't vote for anybody.
43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wouldn't feel for anybody like I mean he knew some is a California governor and you know how the TV industry they play to like Iowa soccer bombs like that's they that's how they sell shows.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It's better now with streaming they can they can do more niche things.
43:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, do some's not going to do as well as people think he would.
43:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a great internet troll.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has an amazing attack dog and he's doing a tremendous job at it.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And going after Trump because he's giving the same energy.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're fucking tired of that energy.
43:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We want someone calm and measured and a good leader.
43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: As Sean Harris says, leadership matters and it fucking does.
43:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We really need to get back to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know I've pissed off a few of my feminist friends and they know I want to talk to me anymore because I said, you know, God forbid, I said right said, but you know, feminist aren't always right about everything and you're a feminist that I'm in a feminist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, you know, I know that I want to get policy past that's going to help women.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we don't, when we can't get that past, so we can put like our feelings on the shelf.
44:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So we actually fucking win.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, like I get really emotional about this because it pisses me the fuck off cuz we have so many purists Yes, on the left They're like it has to be this way or no.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like, okay, then you must be happy and fine with Republicans constantly winning Because we're such a fucking purist that you can't sit on your emotions for a half second
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[SPEAKER_01]: to make sure that the democratic gets into office so that we can path the legislation that helps everybody.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because it's like, I think what these purists are going on, this is how it should be, and it's like, well, that's all fine and good, but this is how it is.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go on how it is, as opposed to how it should be.
44:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to use is the, as it is, to get to should be.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I always go back to, uh, the happens if we don't win.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the 19th Amendment,
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason women got the right to vote, it was women who came out, women who marched, women who put on the pressure, but who made the decision?
45:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember the ladies, a man made the decision, a man, because men were in power, men were the ones to make the decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who made, who was the reason we had a woman vice president?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because a man,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was because of a man and that's how we've set things up here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are a patriarchal culture and it's the reality, it's the reality.
45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we and we need those men to get into power and then open the doors for the women because that's how it has been set up.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how much you don't fucking like it because women, you know, it's like I have a woman just took the power.
45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, women fought for that power
45:59
[SPEAKER_00]: that we could do it because men held the keys.
46:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we found a couple of men who said, yeah, you know what, women should be a part of this.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And they opened the door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not because men are superior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because men are in power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're the ones who are making those decisions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so as long as that's the case,
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[SPEAKER_00]: as long as we realize that that is our reality, then the whole point is getting in and putting the pressure on and finding those men, and those men are like people to judge, and pressure and Biden, and all of them.
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the bottom line is, there are still enough ignorant people out there that even though we've had a fucking lunatic who throws fits and has dementia, they're still gonna be women out there who go, well, let me get their parians and they can't be president.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, there was a split just funny because most of the women that ran for little most of the women, like both come on, Hillary are both postmenopause.
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
46:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
47:00
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to be menopausal and like want to kill all the men.
47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they'll just be, they'll be out of fucks and be like, and just, then just lead.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly, and leaders ever.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a study.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what it was, but I was just reminded of it, but it was little boys and little girls, right?
47:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And said little boys, I don't know how many, like 20 little boys, 20 little girls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're both told, okay, they're separated in the groups of boys and groups of girls and they're like, okay, go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Figure out a system to live, keep this house or whatever it was.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: The boys immediately went into chaos.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They started destroying everything, they weren't eating healthy, they were young, I don't know how young they were, but they were supposed to make their own food and they were eating like shit, they were destroying everything, they were fighting with each other, they were making a big mess, that's what the women, what the girls did.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They created a really comfortable environment that was so organized, and it was about taking care of everybody, making sure everybody had a job, and that everyone pitched in for the comfort of all, which is amazing.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We are the only species on the planet that puts men in charge.
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Humans are fucking stupid, because the rest of the, like, we have your cream bees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your, like, you know, like everybody else, like the men are like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the workers and the protectors and like, but the women fucking run the show.
48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are so many creatures that like, when they're done with them, they just like kill them.
48:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, are done with you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have like a cattle farm, the women breed more cattle, the men are so to market.
48:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The eat.
48:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You have your roosters and your chickens and the chickens are kept for eggs and often the roosters,
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[SPEAKER_01]: are killed because they're not, they're going to use for them, or they're, yeah, or less for eating them.
48:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, we, as humans, have put the wrong fucking gender in charge.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: For such, for for millennia.
49:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
49:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I know my mom was singing some native cultures, you know, that men who were violent in groups of people would just be cast out.
49:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I mean, and they have a matriarchal kind of approach, which is really the circle of us protecting the most vulnerable.
49:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was so happy because I made a little diagram with my sloppy hand writing.
49:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't fucking write anymore.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any hand muscles because I type everything.
49:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So whenever I try to write anything, oh my god, it's so embarrassing.
49:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, I was so happy because two people,
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[SPEAKER_00]: made much better diagrams than I did.
49:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody from being liberal made a really nice one and it just illustrated that you know the top of the tier on patriarchy is men and then then everybody else falls underneath and then and it's of course white man sits on the top, wealthy white man sits on the top and then white man underneath him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you know poor white man underneath him and then you get down to all the other men but it's still men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always men.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always men.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always men.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always men.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a blockade president before we even had a few things.
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
50:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And so but the matriarch is a different system and even though yet like if you look up what is matriarchy mean it does talk about women leaders but regardless of who's because you know what we're seeing that we're seeing matriarchy from mom Donnie.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing
50:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Democrats put out, we leave their community, rather, I think that people flip out on the patriarchy.
50:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, we don't want to go to a mage tricker, where women are going to be like, and I'm like, you don't understand the mage trick.
50:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just flipping it.
50:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just seeing, you're seeing, you're seeing matriarchy through a patriarchy lens, versus the matriarchy is like leadership through community.
50:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it doesn't have to be female leadership.
50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more of a feminine energy of the protective of people, feminine energy not meaning male or female.
50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like you were talking about the bees, and it's like there was the queen bee, and then you've got the worker bees.
50:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the same thing like with the feminine energy, you've got creativity, you've got, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: protection, you've got organization, and then you have masculine energy, that's going out there and doing and physicality.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you combine the two, and you've got a really good combination.
51:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you start fucking around with men and women and pinning them against each other, you're getting this whole maturarchy patriarchy thing.
51:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And or I should say patriarchy thing.
51:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right, it's like we've been doing it the wrong way.
51:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't require feet, I mean, democratic legislation for the most part is matriarchal, look at social security, look at fucking homophobic leadership through community.
51:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's yes, we provide a leadership for the, for the betterment of all versus just the few at the top.
51:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
51:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's really important.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, I think, well, I'm not, I'm not going to say I think definitely we have an opportunity for this because, you know, Susan Surandon wanted it all to burn down.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got your way.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You fucking bitch.
52:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hate you now.
52:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand Susan Surandon.
52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't watch them in the least anymore.
52:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm moving.
52:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So irritating.
52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like,
52:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
52:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all burning down.
52:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have this opportunity to rebuild and we can rebuild in a with with the idea of May Turkey.
52:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to become a May Cherokee overnight.
52:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We still have red states.
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We still have, you know, evangelical Christians who don't get it.
52:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We still have a bunch of stupid people in this country.
52:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
52:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that this is our opportunity, just like with every other point in history, whether it was the great depression or whatever, like, for instance, in Germany now, you know, there's all kinds of remembrances and plaques all over.
52:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't make that fucking mistake again.
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't repeat Hitler again.
52:49
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have that over here.
52:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we've got our own Hitler now.
52:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to be like Germany after Hitler.
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We should have imprisoned or whatever we should have done after the civil war that we started then.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: We should have been punished for being traitors against the United States and instead we let them build monuments.
53:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember it and he like this was good.
53:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So putting up statues of Robert E. Lee everywhere and then like they're like he was he was a hero I hero to who he was a character the United States.
53:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: yeah well we got a lot of things backwards so i think you know we have an opportunity now will we do it but we have an opportunity to raw to write some of those wrongs to fix some of those issues that you know whether it's the guardrails or there's so much to do whoever is going to be winning in 2028 you know they need a full congress they need everybody they need all on board and they need to
53:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They needed to do all the things Joe Biden didn't do and really couldn't do.
53:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He was, his hands were tied behind his back for a lot of it.
53:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He did get a lot done, but what he got done was more for the people and not about putting up protections.
54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was thinking we were finished with Trump and clearly that's not the case.
54:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to happen.
54:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when Trump dies, or when Trump is no longer in the picture, because he could be just like a vegetable somewhere, that would be fine.
54:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be nice if he was a vegetable and he knew it.
54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But, um,
54:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say I just wanted to be embarrassing.
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just wanted to be.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to be so, I just wanted to be embarrassing.
54:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I hope that he's humiliated and embarrassed, but so I was just going to say, I don't remember, I don't remember.
54:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All I know is that I do think to go back to what I was saying, as awful as this is, I think we're going to find our way out.
54:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But when we do, we really need to put the focus on,
54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: The guardrails, like the whole Supreme Court thing, we have to hold people accountable.
54:53
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't do what we used to do.
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can't pretend that there are friends across the aisle.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all fucking trodders to the United States, even the ones that aren't the egregious in your face ones, cause they're all backing him.
55:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all backing fascism.
55:06
[SPEAKER_01]: If they're voting with Trump, then they are.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're no better.
55:10
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
55:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no way around it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, also, I'll just say the last thing, it's like, I was worried that when, of course, Taco Trump said two weeks after the Iran thing, it was like, please corporate media, don't treat it like, oh, okay, he's saying no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we also, like, I'm not saying that this is the reason why he did that, because I know he was threatening for the state of Formos, but it also just happened to be on the night when there was a huge election.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That Democrats won in Wisconsin and huge, like, knocked the socks off the National Republican Party in Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that none of the news was covering it until, like, later, for the next day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm not saying that's why he did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's certainly helped him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, like I said, the man does not look healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, let us pray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's all just see him happy in his afterlife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wherever he is, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to be in the afterlife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I don't feel like a special and a nook of like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not even a special, just like ordinary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Near death experience is how.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've probably listened to a thousand near death experience stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not kidding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not all of them have this experience, but most of them do of the life review.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason they don't have it is because they just didn't go in deep enough or whatever, but it's called the life review.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the life review, the way everyone explains it, it's exactly the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You basically go into, it's almost like you're observing, but you're in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, and a perfect way to describe this is, oh, is this guy on Oprah back in the 90s,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had in your death experience, and he was married, and he was like a conservative man, and he was abusive to his wife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he told Oprah's audience filled with women, and I say this because if he was lying, he wasn't lying for attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he told, again, Oprah's audience filled with women with a camera on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: saying, I, in my life review experienced what it was like for her when I was abusive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I came from her point of view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I came from my point of view as the one hurting her and then I also understood what she was feeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I came from her point of view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone says that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone says that in a life review, if somebody is like, if you were nice to someone and you made them feel good, you'll feel that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you harm someone or if you were mean to them and hurt their feelings, you will feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it wasn't even if you were in first grade, even if it wasn't intentional, it's not a punishment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so you can experience it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally what I think karma is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Trump is going to have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe this with everything in me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know not everybody listening believes this, but I know we have a life review.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that he's going to have to go through it and it's every single person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to feel your fear, your anger, my fear, my anger, all the people he raped, all the people he hurt, he's going to feel it.
58:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All the people who fucking lost relatives because of COVID and his mishandling it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's everything or.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I, you know, I know that a lot of people will roll their eyes to it and that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I think that's what he's going to go through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I mean, I think...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want, I want him to go to jail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him to be humiliated, but I have no power.
58:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't do anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, however, it's going to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think when he dies, it's not hell.
59:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe in hell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he, you know, I think that's just made up to scare people to into believing something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to have to feel what he did to people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm all for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, it's like when he dies, that's the first thing I'm going to think, I'm going to think, oh, he's he's going through it.
59:19
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going through it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to he's going to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have, like, right now, he, I think he's, well, right now he's got to mention before he had dementia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had an understanding that he was a bad person, but, you know, he has no empathy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll have empathy when he's doing all this, so he's going to feel like shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's good, I don't care, I'm glad.
59:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So interesting when he says things like, I know I'm not going to heaven, like he knows he's a shitty human being, but he's totally fucked Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not worried about going to heaven, and you know what who worries about that fucking people who are dying So what if they like upload his brain into like AI and either
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would have probably killed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would probably be good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just it would it would be too disgusting and awful Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm gonna let you go, but this was the lively and scurgeon conversation My very favorite and I always love when Sarah would it's pissed off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I get a little loud
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, your Sarah Wood writer everywhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this out what you are?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sarah Wood writer everywhere, Sarah Wood on Blue Sky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta never really got my name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's always good to talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for being so reliable in my backup and I really, really, really, really appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hot to you next time.