Latest / The Kevin Stone Podcast / Episode #35 "From Food Waste to Community, What EcoDrum Is Building in Ozark"
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What happens when you take something Ozark is throwing away,
- 0:03Speaker 1: put it through a machine built right here in town,
- 0:06Speaker 1: and turn it into something that may help our soil
- 0:08Speaker 1: hold water? Apparently you get compost. You may also get
- 0:12Speaker 1: a community project, a place for young people to learn,
- 0:15Speaker 1: a few animals, a puppet stage, and if Byron Irwin
- 0:18Speaker 1: has his way, one more reason for people to come
- 0:21Speaker 1: to Ozark. I went to this interview expecting to talk
- 0:23Speaker 1: about food waste and a big rotating drum. It became
- 0:26Speaker 1: a much bigger conversation than that. This is the Kevin
- 0:29Speaker 1: Stone Podcast. Today I'm talking with Byron Irwin of Riverbend
- 0:33Speaker 1: Molding and Compost Network here in Ozark, Arkansas. Byron invited
- 0:37Speaker 1: me out to see what they're building and explain how
- 0:40Speaker 1: EcoDrum works. Before this conversation, most of my composting knowledge
- 0:44Speaker 1: came from leaving something in the refrigerator until it developed
- 0:47Speaker 1: its own form of government. Evidently, that's not the approved method.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I met Byron, walked around the property, and got to
- 0:53Speaker 1: hear firsthand why he's putting so much of himself into
- 0:56Speaker 1: this project. What stood out to me was not somebody
- 0:59Speaker 1: trying to get rich off the community. It was somebody
- 1:01Speaker 1: trying to build something that could genuinely help it. Here
- 1:04Speaker 1: is Byron Irwin.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Okay, I'm Byron Irwin. I'm with Riverbend Molding and Compost Network.
- 1:11Speaker 2: We're out of Ozark, Arkansas, and we've been involved in
- 1:16Speaker 2: 20 years over doing in-vessel drums for the industry. And
- 1:21Speaker 2: we've decided to put together a nonprofit called Compost Network,
- 1:26Speaker 2: empowering youth and communities. And that's what I'm here to
- 1:30Speaker 2: talk about today.
- 1:31Speaker 3: All right, very good.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Before we get into composting, tell me a little bit
- 1:34Speaker 1: about River Bend Molding, what you make here in Ozark,
- 1:38Speaker 1: and how did you get involved in the company?
- 1:40Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:40Speaker 2: So River Bend Molding started in, we started producing our
- 1:45Speaker 2: first drum about April of 2019. Now, we've been manufacturing
- 1:50Speaker 2: in-vessel drums. We started as a Canadian company up in
- 1:53Speaker 2: Manitoba when we started in 2006. and we were expanding
- 1:59Speaker 2: and we wanted a smaller community like we were used
- 2:03Speaker 2: to in manitoba so we moved operations we started looking
- 2:07Speaker 2: for land i think in 2017 started building the plant
- 2:11Speaker 2: in 2018 and it was officially open in 2019 and
- 2:17Speaker 2: so i've been there right from the start so uh
- 2:21Speaker 2: There were a couple of other partners involved with it.
- 2:25Speaker 2: It was a father and son, Tim Epp and John Epp.
- 2:29Speaker 2: But my job is to find a market for in-vessel composters.
- 2:33Speaker 2: They got in touch with me because I was in agriculture,
- 2:36Speaker 2: originally a farm kid from Saskatchewan. And I had spent
- 2:40Speaker 2: 10 years previously into the United States taking agricultural equipment
- 2:45Speaker 2: into the U.S.
- 2:49Speaker 3: I felt there was a real need in communities. I
- 2:53Speaker 3: felt there was a.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Real need for poultry producers to have another option in
- 2:57Speaker 2: mortality because the options that were available were costly.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Agriculture was expanding. The farms were getting bigger.
- 3:06Speaker 2: And so I spent the majority of my time working
- 3:10Speaker 2: with government agencies to find grants and funding for.
- 3:13Speaker 3: The American farmer. So that's how I got started.
- 3:17Speaker 2: And I created the The EcoDrum, which you see today
- 3:21Speaker 2: and is part of the patent as well, because my
- 3:25Speaker 2: work in the field, you know, we see, OK, this
- 3:28Speaker 2: needed to be changed. This needed to happen. And we
- 3:32Speaker 2: were so I did all the service work to begin with.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And so then you're learning about your own product and.
- 3:39Speaker 2: And you're making changes as you're selling. So what you
- 3:42Speaker 2: see today is a gradual revolution, evolution of what we
- 3:47Speaker 2: actually started manufacturing. And that's kind of how we got going.
- 3:52Speaker 2: And so we're pretty proud to be 20 years into it.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And I'm happy now to be able to give back
- 4:00Speaker 2: to our community and work with a nonprofit called Compost Network.
- 4:06Speaker 1: What exactly is an ecodrome and what problem was it
- 4:09Speaker 1: designed to solve?
- 4:10Speaker 2: So to begin with, we were focused on agriculture. We
- 4:14Speaker 2: were trying to resolve the issue with poultry and hog mortality.
- 4:18Speaker 3: The problem is.
- 4:23Speaker 2: traditionally they were using compost bins or they were incinerating.
- 4:27Speaker 2: And in neither one of those as farms grew in America,
- 4:33Speaker 2: those were more difficult. So trying to do a compost
- 4:37Speaker 2: bin when you're losing thousands of birds, just wasn't manageable anymore.
- 4:41Speaker 2: They were spending more time trying to compost than the
- 4:44Speaker 2: quality time they needed to spend with their birds. So
- 4:47Speaker 2: the reality, we decided to go specifically and do one
- 4:52Speaker 2: thing well. If you can do mortality, you can do
- 4:54Speaker 2: everything else. So mortality was the struggle for any composting company.
- 5:00Speaker 2: And any vessel, if you could do mortality well, it's
- 5:03Speaker 2: easy to move on to organics and food waste and
- 5:06Speaker 2: manures and all these recipes. So we really developed what
- 5:11Speaker 2: we thought was the solution to a growing problem for agriculture.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And that was farmers did not have the time to
- 5:19Speaker 2: do traditional composting systems due to management. And they couldn't
- 5:24Speaker 2: afford the cost of doing incinerations. Incineration is, today, it's
- 5:28Speaker 2: just unthinkable at current diesel prices of over $ 6 a gallon.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And fuel costs is well over $ 4 and ranging upwards.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Those are just not viable options. Most farmers are now
- 5:44Speaker 2: struggling just to pay the fertilizer costs and fuel costs
- 5:48Speaker 2: in America right now.
- 5:52Speaker 3: We started in agriculture.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Now we branched out to fish waste, to manures, to
- 5:58Speaker 2: hatchery waste, to identifying other problems. Meat processors, very similar
- 6:04Speaker 2: once COVID hit. You know, we noticed that bigger companies
- 6:09Speaker 2: were having a hard time providing meat into a store.
- 6:13Speaker 2: And then you saw more and more butchers and.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Small businesses producers getting into the market.
- 6:20Speaker 2: But then they have a problem with that offal and
- 6:23Speaker 2: that stuff that's cut up, that it's either a landfill
- 6:27Speaker 2: item or an incineration item. And again, all that can
- 6:32Speaker 2: make great fertilizer and can be spread on the land.
- 6:35Speaker 2: So like I said, I think it started agriculture-wise, but
- 6:39Speaker 2: that mission has just grown. Over the 20 years, things
- 6:43Speaker 2: have changed. You know, nobody back then was looking at
- 6:48Speaker 2: landfill capacity. We have huge capacity. Today, we do not.
- 6:54Speaker 2: And those infrastructures cost every citizen, every resident, more and
- 6:59Speaker 2: more every year. And they're not sustainable. We need to
- 7:03Speaker 2: take food organics out of the hands of the landfill
- 7:08Speaker 2: and handle it as a community where it has the
- 7:10Speaker 2: most benefit. And so 20, 30 years ago, you saw
- 7:14Speaker 2: huge companies doing food waste and then selling that to
- 7:19Speaker 2: the market back to retailers and then us paying it back. Now,
- 7:24Speaker 2: if we can do that as a community, what we
- 7:28Speaker 2: have for waste now becomes a resource. And we can
- 7:32Speaker 2: beautify our city. We can create community gardens. And we
- 7:37Speaker 2: can teach how food is produced. And that's one of
- 7:41Speaker 2: the things we want.
- 7:42Speaker 1: We were talking about the landfills and stuff. How much
- 7:44Speaker 1: material could something like this potentially keep.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Out of a landfill?
- 7:48Speaker 2: I think in a community like Ozark, you're looking close
- 7:51Speaker 2: to 3,800. I think we're looking at thousands and thousands
- 7:55Speaker 2: of pounds. The InVessel drum, the Eco drum that is
- 7:58Speaker 2: stationed here. should be able to handle everything the community
- 8:02Speaker 2: can give. So that means a 60% diversion rate from landfill.
- 8:06Speaker 2: So right now we take it to a transfer station
- 8:09Speaker 2: that goes directly to landfill and they're not doing anything
- 8:11Speaker 2: with that. So then we turn around, we buy it
- 8:14Speaker 2: from a retailer, as residents of Ozark or of any community,
- 8:20Speaker 2: because we want to add it to our garden. So
- 8:22Speaker 2: we've thrown it away and we're buying it back. And
- 8:25Speaker 2: maybe whoever we're giving it to might be doing composting.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Chances are they are not. And so by keeping it
- 8:33Speaker 2: in the community, you're building healthy soils, you're building a
- 8:38Speaker 2: healthy community where you have flowers, you have plants, you
- 8:42Speaker 2: have beautification of downtown and And you're looking after your parks.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And especially this year, when we look at, we've had
- 8:51Speaker 2: a hot year, a record hot year. We've had more
- 8:55Speaker 2: than three months of just hot weather, 100 degrees. And
- 8:59Speaker 2: our soils and our grass, everything is brown because we
- 9:04Speaker 2: just didn't have the water. Composting helps retain that water,
- 9:08Speaker 2: helps for plant growth, ensures that we have more adequate bin,
- 9:12Speaker 2: especially here in Ozark. We know that we have a
- 9:18Speaker 2: water problem. So, you know, we're being asked to not
- 9:22Speaker 2: water our gardens, not wash our cars.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Well, maybe we'd have less.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Of a problem if we use compost. If we use
- 9:31Speaker 2: compost on our lawns, if we use compost in our parks,
- 9:36Speaker 2: we would have a more natural ability to keep that
- 9:39Speaker 2: grass greener.
- 9:40Speaker 3: We'd retain more water. And we need to use less water.
- 9:43Speaker 2: So I think the benefits as a community is huge.
- 9:47Speaker 1: That connection between compost and water caught my attention because
- 9:51Speaker 1: of what Ozark has been dealing with. The Environmental Protection
- 9:55Speaker 1: Agency says compost adds organic matter and helps soil absorb
- 9:59Speaker 1: and retain water. You accept all that stuff here?
- 9:51Speaker 3: Yes.
- 9:51Speaker 1: All the refuse and stuff here? Because now you've walked
- 10:17Speaker 1: me around the property here.
- 10:18Speaker 3: I don't smell anything.
- 10:20Speaker 2: No.
- 10:20Speaker 1: It's not like it stinks out here. So how is that?
- 10:24Speaker 3: How does that work?
- 10:25Speaker 2: So EcoDrum is an in-vessel system. So how it's designed,
- 10:29Speaker 2: you're capturing all of that in the system itself, right?
- 10:32Speaker 2: So you have a negatively forced air system that can
- 10:35Speaker 2: go into a biofilter if it was to have any odor.
- 10:39Speaker 2: So you won't smell any odor in this area. which
- 10:42Speaker 2: is much different than what you do to a transfer
- 10:45Speaker 2: station or landfill.
- 10:46Speaker 3: You smell that odor. Absolutely. Because that food is just rotting.
- 10:50Speaker 2: So what you're using, and we're lucky in Ozark, we
- 10:53Speaker 2: have piles and piles of wood shavings. We can utilize that,
- 10:57Speaker 2: put it into the drum, and you're contained. So you
- 10:59Speaker 2: don't have that odor. And what that drum is doing,
- 11:03Speaker 2: it has a built-in system that determines how many rotations
- 11:07Speaker 2: due to the volume and is adding air. So when
- 11:11Speaker 2: you're adding air to that mass, what you don't have
- 11:14Speaker 2: is that over because your compost is aerobic. And when
- 11:18Speaker 2: your compost is aerobic, that's what you're smelling is that
- 11:21Speaker 2: earth smell and not that foul smell. Because when we
- 11:25Speaker 2: allow that stuff to sit, we're producing methane, we're producing gases.
- 11:29Speaker 2: And when you're actually composting, if you're composting hot, You're
- 11:33Speaker 2: avoiding all those things. So when you look at the
- 11:36Speaker 2: back end of an ecodrome, you have beautiful compost coming out.
- 11:40Speaker 2: And what we do is we just cure it a
- 11:42Speaker 2: little more to make sure it's safe and to meet U.S.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Composting Council's regulations. It should be cured for 30 days
- 11:50Speaker 2: before being land applied. But most of that could be
- 11:52Speaker 2: applied almost immediately to our parks and recreational areas. Because
- 11:59Speaker 2: there wouldn't be that issue where you want to watch
- 12:02Speaker 2: maintenance if you're bagging it. Or if you're using it
- 12:04Speaker 2: for plant growth, you want to have.
- 12:06Speaker 3: It a little more mature.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Okay, now here's a question that I've got a little
- 12:10Speaker 1: bit of curiosity on. I mean, why are you doing
- 12:12Speaker 1: this here in Ozark? River Bend is a business, but
- 12:15Speaker 1: what made you interested in developing something specifically for this community?
- 12:18Speaker 3: Well, one, I saw a need. And it started really slowly.
- 12:24Speaker 2: I saw that the ministry of churches had no drop-off bins,
- 12:28Speaker 2: and they were only open.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Three days a week.
- 12:30Speaker 2: I felt, okay, we could add drop-off bins, making their
- 12:33Speaker 2: job easier, get the donations, staying in the community. Because
- 12:37Speaker 2: what I was watching, where we're situated was kind of
- 12:41Speaker 2: a learning process. So we're just before the transfer station.
- 12:44Speaker 2: So on the other side is the transfer station. So
- 12:47Speaker 2: I would see the garbage that's going to the transfer station.
- 12:50Speaker 2: The bottles, the cans, the furniture, all of these kind
- 12:53Speaker 2: of things I thought could be recycled. And people were
- 12:56Speaker 2: coming in going, OK, I have a piece of steel
- 12:58Speaker 2: and it cost me $ 60 to go there.
- 13:00Speaker 3: We'll take it. We'll recycle it here.
- 13:03Speaker 2: And so what it started slowly is going, there's a
- 13:05Speaker 2: need for the ministry of churches for the thrift store
- 13:08Speaker 2: to get donations up because that supports the community. Then there, then, um,
- 13:12Speaker 2: I worked with art with a Cub Scouts master, um,
- 13:15Speaker 2: and we put a trailer here for just for a while.
- 13:17Speaker 2: I saw an opportunity where we could give back to
- 13:20Speaker 2: the community and, and by involving them and going, okay,
- 13:24Speaker 2: let's give more to the youth. It, because it doesn't
- 13:27Speaker 2: have to be a burden to, um, to families who
- 13:31Speaker 2: cannot afford to pay these memberships into these groups because
- 13:35Speaker 2: money is tight. So if you have four or five
- 13:38Speaker 2: or seven kids, you can't afford to be a part
- 13:40Speaker 2: of these programs. Now, you know, for what an individual
- 13:44Speaker 2: gives is their Kansas, it's just minor. But when a
- 13:46Speaker 2: community does, that can be thousands of dollars and that
- 13:50Speaker 2: can support the youth in our community. So we really
- 13:54Speaker 2: started kind of slow thinking, OK, this is what we're
- 13:56Speaker 2: going to do. But April 1st, I kind of went,
- 13:59Speaker 2: this year, I went, we're going to get this recycling done.
- 14:02Speaker 2: And it was supposed to stop there. But as anything
- 14:07Speaker 2: in life, one of our production managers has cancer and
- 14:12Speaker 2: will be passing shortly. His name is Vincent. And I
- 14:16Speaker 2: wanted to give a tribute to him. He was a
- 14:18Speaker 2: man of God. He helped me through my struggles as
- 14:23Speaker 2: well when I first got here. And we would sit
- 14:27Speaker 2: and talk about Jesus and God and what, you know,
- 14:31Speaker 2: when you're struggling and you're finding difficult times, He was
- 14:36Speaker 2: the man of faith that I turned to. So when
- 14:39Speaker 2: I heard he was going to pass, I wanted to
- 14:41Speaker 2: do something special for him. And that created the educational,
- 14:45Speaker 2: the biodome educational area and the campus.
- 14:48Speaker 3: And then you're going, you know, as a tribute to him.
- 14:51Speaker 3: At the same time, we decided, OK, how.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Do you keep children and everybody engaged? And that was
- 14:57Speaker 2: to add animals. So they understood how to care for
- 15:00Speaker 2: animals and responsibility. And then you wanted a play area. Again,
- 15:06Speaker 2: the mission just kept growing. And the timeline didn't. So
- 15:11Speaker 2: we started April 1st. We felt we would be completed
- 15:14Speaker 2: by September 1st. And nothing always works that way. Okay.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Well, let me ask another question. If somebody listening says
- 15:22Speaker 1: that this sounds great, how do they participate? What can
- 15:25Speaker 1: that person do right now?
- 15:27Speaker 2: We're always looking for volunteers. If you have a skill
- 15:31Speaker 2: set and if you don't, that's fine. We're always looking
- 15:34Speaker 2: for volunteers to look after animals. We're looking for volunteers
- 15:37Speaker 2: to teach canning, to teach gardening. You've got a master
- 15:40Speaker 2: course in gardening, please come over. Let's talk because we
- 15:45Speaker 2: want those skill sets. We have some people teaching yoga
- 15:49Speaker 2: to children, which I think is fantastic. We've opened the
- 15:53Speaker 2: site up to all churches as well. So, You'll see
- 15:57Speaker 2: that children have a spot. If you have a youth program,
- 16:00Speaker 2: what better inspiration is.
- 16:03Speaker 3: To have it here?
- 16:04Speaker 2: So they can explore as well as learn the Bible
- 16:08Speaker 2: and learn the words of Jesus. So I think those
- 16:11Speaker 2: are important things. But you can also donate because we
- 16:15Speaker 2: need your donations to help support the efforts because there
- 16:18Speaker 2: are costs to this to keep it rolling.
- 16:22Speaker 3: There are operating costs. There's cost for feed.
- 16:26Speaker 2: And we're always looking for volunteers so that we can
- 16:29Speaker 2: be open longer. So if you volunteer, that means children
- 16:32Speaker 2: have access to this much longer. So we can work
- 16:35Speaker 2: over weekends. And so we're looking for youth volunteers. We're
- 16:39Speaker 2: looking for people who have extra time.
- 16:41Speaker 3: On their hand.
- 16:43Speaker 2: And if you want to be even more of a part,
- 16:45Speaker 2: you can join our board of directors. and help us
- 16:48Speaker 2: guide this mission. And we're looking for those special people
- 16:52Speaker 2: to help guide our mission because our mission is really
- 16:55Speaker 2: to encourage youth and for them to understand sustainability, recycling,
- 17:00Speaker 2: and what a difference it can make in their community.
- 17:03Speaker 2: And so if you're a puppeteer, come on board. We're
- 17:06Speaker 2: looking for you because we want to help teach children
- 17:10Speaker 2: a friendly manner. And so we created a puppet stage
- 17:13Speaker 2: as well.
- 17:15Speaker 1: One final question, though, I'm going to ask you is,
- 17:18Speaker 1: what haven't I asked you that you wish the people
- 17:21Speaker 1: in Ozark understood about what you're trying to do here?
- 17:24Speaker 3: You know, I felt it was a calling.
- 17:27Speaker 2: I felt God, you know, I asked God what I
- 17:30Speaker 2: could do for my community and how I could help.
- 17:33Speaker 2: And I think the answer came in this form, a
- 17:35Speaker 2: compost network. What I felt is people need hope. And
- 17:38Speaker 2: I felt there was this sense of hopelessness.
- 17:41Speaker 3: We can't get out of that.
- 17:42Speaker 2: That the community just didn't see, we didn't have enough agritourism.
- 17:48Speaker 2: We're trying to gain more people. This is agriturism. This
- 17:52Speaker 2: being the first sustainability site should excite every resident in Ozark.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Because what that's going to do is bring schools and
- 17:59Speaker 2: preschools and homeschoolers and people from all over Arkansas and
- 18:05Speaker 2: all over the U.S. to see this first sustainability site
- 18:09Speaker 2: in America. This has never been done. And it's done
- 18:12Speaker 2: in Ozark. And it's done to give the community hope
- 18:15Speaker 2: and to give children hope and to to install on
- 18:19Speaker 2: them a huge opportunity to learn. And for me, it was,
- 18:24Speaker 2: you know, it may have been started by myself, But
- 18:28Speaker 2: I want the community to run it. I want the
- 18:30Speaker 2: community to go forward. This was just somebody's got to start.
- 18:35Speaker 2: And I was the starting point. I'm hoping the community
- 18:38Speaker 2: will join in and help build this even further. But
- 18:41Speaker 2: we have an opportunity to put Ozark on the map.
- 18:45Speaker 2: And so there are so many other little rural communities.
- 18:49Speaker 2: And we need a niche to drive people in because
- 18:53Speaker 2: we're off the major highways. So what attracts people here?
- 18:57Speaker 2: This will attract people here. This will provide that opportunity
- 19:01Speaker 2: to better our community, to provide more opportunity for youth,
- 19:08Speaker 2: but also to.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Provide more opportunity for all of the community.
- 19:12Speaker 2: So I'm excited about this and I want the community
- 19:16Speaker 2: to continue to work with us because what we're doing
- 19:19Speaker 2: is special for the children here. And I think having
- 19:24Speaker 2: a place where they can play, learn and learn about
- 19:27Speaker 2: God is even better.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, Mr.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Irwin, thank you for taking time with me today. I've
- 19:34Speaker 1: really enjoyed this. I've really learned a lot from this.
- 19:37Speaker 1: And I expect to hear more from you through this podcast,
- 19:42Speaker 1: if you don't mind. Yes.
- 19:43Speaker 3: This is very interesting to me.
- 19:44Speaker 2: You know, I'd be glad to have a broadcast anytime
- 19:47Speaker 2: with you.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 19:48Speaker 3: All right. Thank you.
- 19:49Speaker 1: My biggest. takeaway is that Ecodrum is only part of
- 19:53Speaker 1: the story. The machine processes material, but the heart of
- 19:56Speaker 1: this project is people. People volunteering, teaching, donating, caring for animals,
- 20:01Speaker 1: helping young people, and trying to leave their community a
- 20:03Speaker 1: little better than they found it. After spending time with
- 20:06Speaker 1: Byron and seeing what he's trying to build, I didn't
- 20:08Speaker 1: come away thinking this was somebody looking to get rich
- 20:11Speaker 1: off the community. I came away believing he's putting his
- 20:14Speaker 1: heart into an idea he genuinely hopes will help Ozark,
- 20:17Speaker 1: especially its young people. Nobody knows how large this project
- 20:21Speaker 1: may become, but sincere efforts to improve a community deserve encouragement, participation,
- 20:26Speaker 1: and a fair chance to succeed. I hope the people
- 20:28Speaker 1: of Ozark will take a look, ask how they can help,
- 20:31Speaker 1: and see for themselves what Byron and the volunteers are building.
- 20:34Speaker 1: If you want to learn more or get involved, contact
- 20:37Speaker 1: Compost Network or Riverbend Molding directly and ask what they
- 20:41Speaker 1: currently accept. when the site is open, and where volunteers
- 20:44Speaker 1: are needed. They're located at 1661 Airport Road here in Ozark, Arkansas.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Confirm those details before hauling anything over there. Showing up
- 20:53Speaker 1: with a truckload of mystery refrigerator contents is not community service.
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