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- 0:17Good evening and welcome to this week's episode of Chinwag. Well there's certainly
- 0:20going to be a lot for us to discuss this evening, elections all around the world,
- 0:24planes getting bomb threats and much more. How are we doing this week dad?
- 0:28Oh very well. There's certainly going to be a lot for us to discuss but before we dive into it
- 0:32today's seven years since Iconic began back in 2019. Quite a lot's happened in those seven years,
- 0:38isn't it? Well I think Iconic's contribution has been absolutely fantastic
- 0:46since you started the channel because it doesn't take political sides, it realises
- 0:56that there is a force in the background that's manipulating through all bloody sides no matter
- 1:03what the religion, what the political ideology, any of it and this has been absolutely lost
- 1:13in so much of the so-called alternative media as we're going to discuss in relation to
- 1:19Donald Trump. So happy birthday Iconic because it's not only achieved so much in its seven years,
- 1:34it's big, big time is coming up. Yeah and it's been a pleasure, it's been great fun to be a part
- 1:40of it. I think if you looked back at videos at the start you looked the same. I think I look
- 1:43a lot grayer, Gareth probably looks a lot grayer and a lot older as well, won't comment on Richard.
- 1:48Yeah I looked old then, I look old now, right okay. I think once you get to 50 you just
- 1:52stay the same don't you? But like you say you mentioned Donald Trump it allows us to segue
- 1:57nicely into our first story because through that period yourself the channel in general
- 2:01but particularly you got a lot of stick for not buying into the Trump train. You're a shell
- 2:07because you were not backing the Messiah and I know because of the type of person you are you don't
- 2:14want to be vindicated in this you'd rather be wrong and him have been the great person but he's not
- 2:18and at this point now you must feel incredibly validated in having been one of the first people
- 2:23to say actually you know what this isn't what we're being told it is when pretty much everyone
- 2:28to a man apart from a handful of people. Back to him. Well I look at the
- 2:37the catastrophic election result for Trump and the Republicans
- 2:45and people are talking about or the blue wave and a blue tsunami
- 2:52but of course most people were voting against Trump not for the Democrats.
- 2:57It's just to get Trump out or to at least to clip his wings as best you can but what
- 3:06what I've found staggering all along is the way that the alternative media
- 3:18algorithmically promoted influencers have bought this man they bought this man and
- 3:30campaigned for him told people to vote for him when the videos exist where in 2016 when he first
- 3:40came on the scene and people like Alex Jones were promoting him that I was saying this man is
- 3:49basically a gopher for the the global cult because back in the 90s you know people were saying to me
- 3:58is the president involved in this conspiracy that you're talking about and I used to say
- 4:04well is he the bloody president yeah true well yes well he is then because if you're president
- 4:11it's because with this this cult's influence and manipulative influence in politics and media etc
- 4:23if if you are in that level of power then you are acceptable at at at least acceptable
- 4:31to this cult and many of them will be knowingly promoting this cult agenda so
- 4:43this is 2016 all you had to do was look at the basic background to Trump never mind going to the
- 4:52detail which I did but just look at the basic background he has been not draining the swamp
- 5:00he has been swimming in it his entire bloody life and his father was Fred Trump another crook
- 5:09just like his son is and you look at the connections between Donald Trump and Jeffrey
- 5:18Epstein fundamental connections and and the corruption that this man's been involved in
- 5:25and the the business catastrophes he's been involved massively yeah even John Trump and
- 5:30Nikola Tesla as well his uncle that connection there too yes yes his his uncle was was the
- 5:37person that went through the the the files of Nikola Tesla after he died and they they took
- 5:46his work so you you look at his father Fred Trump like I say another crook and he was a close friend
- 5:57of Benjamin Netanyahu going way back Fred Trump also suffered eventually from dementia which
- 6:04clearly Trump is suffering from now and then you have Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner again
- 6:13a lifelong friend of Benjamin Netanyahu and Kushner's father Charles is a convicted felon
- 6:22who was pardoned by Donald Trump and is now thanks to Trump ambassador to France yeah I mean the
- 6:32corruption is unbelievable going as far back as you want to go and and therefore you you wonder
- 6:47why the great tracks of this alternative media especially the you know the algorithmic supported
- 6:56part of it as I as I say just didn't see through this guy and let us not forget
- 7:06how your your Alex Joneses and your Tucker Carlson's and your Megan Kelly's and your Russell
- 7:13Brands and your Joe Rogans all these people were pressuring and pressing to get him elected
- 7:26in 2024 and as you say quite rightly I was saying this guy is a frontman for the cult
- 7:34just like he was in 2016 and he's got a number of things that he's being put in to do among them
- 7:43to dismantle America and basically dismantle the West by the decisions he made look around you
- 7:49I rest my case and that he would facilitate the the the rolling out on a scale not seen before
- 8:01of artificial intelligence and that whole Silicon Valley agenda and yet
- 8:11all that abuse has now ended up with this extraordinary result which is a statement
- 8:25from the American population of what they think of what Trump has done and what has he done
- 8:33by invading Iran he is he's created mayhem in the world with energy supplies and energy prices
- 8:46and in his interactions with other Western countries he's created more mayhem the tariffs
- 8:56have that he's obsessed with have added to to price costs in in the United States and elsewhere
- 9:07at all the time China where the the power is meant to move towards and is
- 9:15China is is smiling inscrutably at the the mess that this man has created so you the the thing
- 9:25is that you you look at these these major alternative media quote stars and how they
- 9:34said vote Trump vote Trump he's the savior he's going to drain the swamp and now they're setting
- 9:40themselves up as as anti-Trump oh no watch me I'm anti-Trump it's unbelievable this is um
- 9:49this is Alex Jones the the vote Trumpa he'll save the world yeah um saying what he thinks of Trump now
- 10:00we need to jettison Trump he's arrogant he's 80 years old he's delusional he's blaming all his
- 10:11hand pick candidates they lost he said I'm on the ballot this is a referendum on my agenda
- 10:16now he says I'm not on the ballot it's not a referendum on me but I don't want to get into
- 10:20a derangement syndrome because he you know went sideways and betrayed us and just spend our
- 10:25time on that today because you're not tuning in for oh we told you so and this this and that happened
- 10:31so there we have um basically we we don't want to talk about I told you so or we told you so
- 10:39no no Alex what you told people was vote for bloody Trump 100 and the the thing that
- 10:48is astounding to me I have to say is that how little has been learned from this so you always
- 11:01have to have a savior you'll always have to have the guy who's going to sort it who's
- 11:07fighting the globalists and so now we're being told by Alex Jones that the you know Trump's gone
- 11:18I told you to vote for him I've told you to vote for him so many times over and over he's gone
- 11:25he's got a guy he's gone now that now the new savior a better one Elon Musk right Elon Musk
- 11:36so um how do you think Elon Musk becomes at least on paper a trillionaire yes because he's fighting
- 11:46the system what and the the idea is that um Bill Gates and the networks connected to him are
- 11:57trying to bring down Elon Musk well I don't think Elon Musk needs a lot of help with that one actually
- 12:03if you look at his behavior over the years but of course it this is what
- 12:12is is is so hard for so many including those that should know better to grasp
- 12:22Elon Musk Bill Gates Peter Teal all these people are controlled by the same force the the stories
- 12:36and the and the the room is the upsets and the apparent dislikes opponents and dislike
- 12:46well they might dislike each other but they're answering to the same masters
- 12:51and this uh this stuff that that plays out or have you seen what Gates has said or you've seen what
- 12:59Musk has said it's all for public consumption to try to hide the fact that it's all connected
- 13:09and so um here we are now having seen the Trump train crash on a monumental scale as it was always
- 13:22going to we're seeing no we need a new driver we need a new driver it's Elon Musk Q Alex
- 13:33Elon is the new Trump but better Trump is eclipsing Trump's going away
- 13:37we don't say that too much because they'll play to Trump's ego and he'll block
- 13:41Elon the great stuff he's doing but they know it's Elon that's battling the globalist they
- 13:45know it's Elon that's taking on all their operations uh and so this is just wild absolutely
- 13:52wild what's going on and it just blows me away that we have gotten to this point how desperate
- 13:58they are so they're saying criminal charges nationalize this company they've war game they know
- 14:05he's gonna have an armed attacks on polling places what the hell if there are armed attacks
- 14:11the people that predicted it he who smelt it dealt it uh as they say uh so if they can get
- 14:19Elon they can get us all i'll be doing a special sunday show tomorrow four to six p.m central
- 14:23Alex Jones live.com is the news site with the video feeds and more
- 14:27relog shows on xrubble.com slash yellow show show live those are the coordinates of the censored show but
- 14:35wow absolutely amazing time to be alive this is so crazy and they can get through Elon they
- 14:41can get to us like Trump always says they're not trying to get me they're trying to get through
- 14:44me to get you and with Elon I mean he's a thoroughbred fight the globalist compared to even Trump
- 14:49and they know that so he's the big enemy and everybody that's on this Trump train
- 14:53defense any wrong decision he makes just keeps obsessing on Trump he's gone even he was perfect
- 14:58he's gone a couple years and the new big leader is Elon Musk. The thing is with Musk is you don't even
- 15:05have to try to uncover his one his connections and secondly to prove that he's clearly one of them
- 15:12most of his companies survive on government funding particularly SpaceX that's putting
- 15:17satellites in the lower bit area which is part of the agenda electric cars part of the agenda
- 15:22Neuralink brains and chips in the brain part of the agenda and also take that side out of it just
- 15:28the financial AI human fusion AI human fusion part of the agenda is the financial part of it
- 15:33all of his businesses are held together by IPOs by stock market floats and things like that
- 15:39which if they wanted to crash in tank they could do like that but they don't well the Federal
- 15:45Communications Commission has just given SpaceX and Musk permission to put up 15,000 more satellites
- 15:56low orbit satellites and when you look at SpaceX it's basically a department of NASA
- 16:08you know there's no join between them so here we are being asked to believe that
- 16:15Musk is the new the new savior when he is up to his neck in the very system the very
- 16:27globalist system that people like Alex Jones says he's fighting well what are you doing
- 16:35it's absolutely crazy and the thing is if you reach that level of at least on paper wealth
- 16:45if you reach that level of political office then you're not only at that level you're not
- 16:52only acceptable to the cult you've been put there by the cult and when you see the background to
- 16:59Musk and the background to Trump by the way the last thing you could call either of them
- 17:06is bright yes very true I mean this idea that that Musk's a genius I mean you are having a laugh
- 17:14and and the same same same with Trump and so you've got these two people clear clear front
- 17:22men for the system who we're supposed to believe we're fighting the system and and Trump is
- 17:31he's a malignant narcissist which is something I would say that that Musk is too and
- 17:39malignant narcissism is defined as an extreme mix of narcissistic traits and a malevolent
- 17:47malicious nature antisocial behavior aggression sadism and paranoia sadism here means deriving
- 17:55pleasure from inflicting pain suffering or humiliation on others which kind of definitely
- 18:02fits fits Trump yeah but there's another angle to this and let's not forget while
- 18:10people like Alex Jones are dismissing Trump and and saying Musk is the new Messiah
- 18:20must put something like half a billion dollars into the midterms on behalf of the
- 18:29Republicans he funded Trump to power in 2024 so I mean none of it makes sense but one aspect
- 18:45that we shouldn't we shouldn't lose is what's happened to MAGA you see you had the MAGA now
- 18:57obviously you know I'm not someone who promotes or supports any political party you know they're
- 19:06all the same to me basically but what you had with the MAGA was at least an understanding
- 19:13that there there was some kind of conspiracy yeah whereas the left were all no conspiracy
- 19:20theorists and all that stuff and so Trump's come in and this wave of MAGA support and one of the things
- 19:31he has done and I say it was done purposely from a cult point of view is to destroy
- 19:40devastate that whole and dismantle that whole MAGA movement so the conspiracy awareness arena
- 19:51is in bloody disarray now as a result of what Trump's done and this is what people really
- 20:02have to grasp if someone is telling you what you want to hear yeah then you need to question them
- 20:11even more because if they're telling you what you want to hear which is dead easy for politicians
- 20:18that's what they do not least Trump so he's told the MAGA mentality what he wants to hear and oh
- 20:25Trump he's the saviour and people have been saying we're winning we're winning cold and all that stuff
- 20:29and you have a situation where you basically lead the pushback of mentality to the edge of the
- 20:39cliff and over it and that's exactly what's been done and you have a still now because Trump
- 20:51is a he's clearly going rapidly do lolly and and also you've got to look at his background and Mary
- 21:04Trump his niece talks about the issues of psychology that his father Fred Trump had this enormous
- 21:17influence on him and that he was in a situation and has been all these years where he mustn't be seen
- 21:32as a loser because you know his father you mustn't be a loser or even you are a loser
- 21:42and if you call Trump a loser you watch his reaction right so Trump cannot lose in his mind
- 21:55it's impossible and what you've had in the aftermath of this election disaster is that he's blaming
- 22:07everybody everyone but himself except himself this is what he said immediately after the
- 22:14the election was seen to be going the way it did and I think the Democrats did a good job I really
- 22:23do I think they did a good job they fought hard they were you know they've been fighting for a
- 22:28long time they've been fighting me for a long time this fight's been going on for ages you know
- 22:34started and really if you look at it I've been doing it for 12 years with them and I've come up
- 22:40on top all the time and and I wasn't on the ballot if I was on the ballot they would have got there
- 22:46look they got out for the rallies you never saw rallies that big I mean outside of the rallies
- 22:52I have when I have you know the general election which is you know a step above in all fairness
- 22:57like maybe a few steps above outside of that I mean these were the biggest rallies ever nobody's
- 23:05ever seen anything like it so he he's constantly saying what blatantly is demonstrably seeably
- 23:19not true so he talks about all thousands of the rallies and the people outside did you see
- 23:26when I took the camera wide yeah did you see the numbers that he got for those rallies in
- 23:32those mid-term campaigns they were they were tiny and he won't accept that what happened happened
- 23:43because of him because of his war with Iran because of its effect on the cost of living
- 23:52his tariffs effect on the cost of living what's happened with ice and and the impositions of that
- 24:01fascism on people this is the reason and he won't accept it because he can't lose
- 24:12because what would me dad say if I was a loser that's why he's every election it's that I
- 24:21didn't lose the election so this time it's well if I was on the ballot it would have been different
- 24:26well actually you were on the ballot ballot in in in reality if not in written form yeah 100%
- 24:36people voting for him you know it's the same over here people vote for the leader very few people
- 24:41know who they're voting for as as a constituent they're voting for whoever the leader is because
- 24:45that's the who's driving the policy he's admitted today isn't he that they the Iran war had an
- 24:49impact but said he would have done it again so he's again like you say acknowledging but not
- 24:54acknowledging a lot of people are saying now that this is this the end of trump in the sense of
- 24:58he won't be able to get anything through he won't get congressional approval for anything
- 25:01they'll just be blocked do you think in a way with the executive orders executive powers that
- 25:06president has this could actually make him more dangerous because he's got nothing left to
- 25:11lose now well first of all you've got to ask what difference does this blue tsunami yeah what
- 25:23difference does it make make because if you go into the shadows the same force is controlling
- 25:30the democrats that is controlling the republicans now the rhetoric will be different and what they
- 25:38say and how they do things will be different you look at the outcome saying in terms of freedom in
- 25:43terms of control in terms of the the cult agenda in general and it's amazing isn't it they're
- 25:52looking at chuck schumer chuck bloody schumer now becoming the the leader of the senate
- 26:04after this democratic win chuck schumer who is uh he's got to be 150 for a start yeah but he's an
- 26:13absolute zionist gopher for israel a mate of netanyahu and uh which is kind of becomes a common
- 26:23theme as we as we speak and then you look at the narcissism the malignant narcissism of trump
- 26:35who can't lose in his own mind so he's not going to accept this result he's going to affect his
- 26:45agenda yeah um and he'll try to push it through and uh so uh he has this well it's one of the things
- 26:54i've been saying over the years when i first you know realized i mean we go in way back
- 27:00decades and decades when i first realized how much power was given to the president of the
- 27:14it's ridiculous so even though the the the people have spoken in terms of their um what they've said
- 27:26about trump in this election he's still ahead of the uh military yeah he is he's still the commander
- 27:33in chief of the military and he has something else which is the right to veto legislation and he's
- 27:43already talking about being uh mr veto in in in um light of this election result and i just want to
- 27:56look at the definition of what powers he has a veto this says means the president returns the
- 28:05bill to the chamber where it originated along with a message explaining the objections the
- 28:11legislation then goes back to congress for reconsideration a presidential veto could
- 28:18be overturned if two-thirds of the members voting in both both the house and the senate
- 28:25support the legislation again for example if trump vetoes are bill passed by the democratic
- 28:30controlled congress lawmakers can attempt to pass it again with the required two-thirds support
- 28:36in each chamber but as it points out securing a two-thirds majority is difficult
- 28:46given the the the makeup of the of the political situation in the in the house so as i said
- 28:56he posted actually in the wake of these election results he posted a hat with veto on
- 29:04yeah right and um and this is what he said about being mr veto it's a power of veto it's
- 29:11one of the stronger powers that a president has and they'll send over things that are insane and
- 29:17i'll veto them and after a couple of months of vetoes they'll call and they'll say uh
- 29:22how do we get this stuff done and we'll work together you have a lot of friends of the
- 29:26democrats believe it or not i've already spoken to some of them i've had four calls from meaningful
- 29:33democrats and uh people uh in two senators and three congressmen actually so it's a total of
- 29:42five and they have three waiting to call me so i don't know they obviously want to talk
- 29:47but i have the power of veto and the power of veto is uh you know it's impervious okay that
- 29:54doesn't sound particularly democratic does it mr veto no exactly i mean you've only got to look at
- 30:00his um use of executive orders which were rightly described by a clinton aide once as um swish of the
- 30:09pen law of the land and of course the courts have pushed back on many of them but he he's basically
- 30:15ruled by executive order yeah so what happened to democracy there and uh he's got no interest in
- 30:23democracy he's got an interest in getting what he wants it's not even a political ideology
- 30:30but he's manipulatable to push in a certain direction it's that he cannot lose what he
- 30:36wants what trump wants he must have because he's a malignant narcissist and uh so um where this
- 30:44goes from here uh i mean let's not forget um that not only does he have these powers of the
- 30:53military and um veto but um the democratic election result does not come into force in terms of
- 31:05the numbers until january yeah at the same time benjamin net and yahoo in israel although um
- 31:15he's lost a lot of seats in the election um he is still caretaker prime minister
- 31:24until a new government is formed with him heading it or somebody else yeah uh and uh when you look
- 31:32that um trump was talking about after the midterms that's when i saw how he ran yeah
- 31:38well you know maybe strap in yeah well let's dive into that in the second part of the episode
- 31:44yeah you're watching with us on youtube or twitter thank you for joining us head over to
- 31:48iconic.com and we're going to dive into that and much more for as long as most of us can remember
- 32:03we've been told the earth is round it's one of those things we rarely stop to question
- 32:16round uh do you see it in the space round it's like everyone says it so why not
- 32:22round uh i just cannot say if they're flat it's proof mathematical proof that's right
- 32:30could i tell you without shadow of doubt what this place is no
- 32:34but i can tell you fundamentally without shadow of doubt what this place is not
- 32:39like you talk about how we now have to listen to people saying the earth is flat by people i mean
- 32:45idiot people think the earth is flat again how many science classes you have to fail
- 32:51before that even comes into the realm of possibility for your half incest to last
- 32:56there's only one way because you realize how stupid the globe it actually is the curvature
- 33:03of the earth are astonishingly apparent in this still picture from the field at that moment you
- 33:07look at the world it looks very fragile you could see the curvature of the earth if the earth
- 33:12is flat some people say oh what difference does it make oh it makes a big difference because our
- 33:16mother earth and we lied to about our mother and you could see the earth is round i have people
- 33:21tell me the earth is flat are they still saying that well some yeah a lot of it's just in a studio
- 33:26with wires we see their wires showing up sometimes we've got go pros they're like 300 bucks stick them
- 33:30on the side of the rocket show us the earth round flat earthers who against all logic continue
- 33:39to exist let's check in with these dorks shall we i have personally seen with my own eyes the
- 33:44curvature of the earth is he lying when you are a flat earth and you are breaking back everything
- 33:49you've been taught about reality so people don't have any education they start actually
- 33:53believing that this stuff makes sense because it's unchecked it feels like it doesn't feel like
- 34:02we're spinning at 10 000 kilometers an hour or whatever it is so why do some people believe
- 34:10something that seems so obvious to everybody else it looks like someone just painted a tennis ball
- 34:15gray it really does i'd have to say round because science proved it that's a good question isn't it
- 34:24this is the most important topic on earth how did i ever believe that nixon picked up a phone and
- 34:32they had a conversation with the astronauts on a landline in 69 if you want to read more and watch
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