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Shapeshifting Skinwalkers, Sasquatch & Alien Disclosure with John Vandeventer · The Cryptid Huntress

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I have John Vandeventer in the studio tonight, and we're gonna be talking about
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UFO, Skinwalkers and sask Watch. Okay, but don't forget that. Right
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after this show, Marquis has a really cool program set up for us on
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After Hours. So let's get into our guest tonight. John Vandeventer is originally
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from Plano, Texas. He's a sixteen year veteran of the United States Air
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Force. He's had a lifelong love of military aviation history and an interest in
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UFOs. Let's see his first novel, Relics. He's an accomplished author,
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y'all. His first novel, Relics, was first published in twenty seventeen.
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In twenty eighteen, he and his wife moved to Honabi, Oklahoma, in
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the heart of Oklahoma sask Watch Country. He was a guest speaker at the
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Hoonubbi Bigfoot Festival in twenty eighteen and served as the MC in the twenty twenty
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one festival. He's now completed two complete series Relics fiction adult series in the
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Shadow Chasers young adult fictions series, John decided to retire and he's devoted himself
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to being a full time author. Now he's not really retired. He's busy
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writing books all the time. And tonight John is here with us at spaced
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Out Radio. Please help me. Welcome to the show, my friend,
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John Vanda Venter. All right, JESSI, you're good to see you again.
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Hey, John, thank you so much for being here tonight. It's
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always fun having you on. Yeah, I always enjoyed this show. Oh
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my gosh, Well you know, I know right. That's like me too.
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I love doing these shows. I have so much fun. I get
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to hang out with cool people like you, and and it's not work at
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all. Really when you when you do, I need to send you some
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money for calling me cool. No, just send me a book every now
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and then. I love we can do that. I absolutely love your books.
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And John, you live in the heart, literally in the heart of
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Sasquatch Country out in Oklahoma. Did I did I pronounce honubbi? Right tonight.
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Yes, Honby, that's how they pronounce it, okay, And it's
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not spelled anything like that. No, you No, Bia doesn't spell anobi
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in my book. But I'm pretty sure that's the Choctawk. You know,
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the Choctaw way of saying anobia is Honaby. Oh wow. I've heard it
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stood for different things. It was the name of one of the founding families
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out here, I've heard, Uh, it's it's choctawker place of the dead
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man. I don't know which one is a true story. I do know
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it maybe Honubby, maybe Choctawk or low bandwidth but low bandwidth, John,
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You're so silly. You're funny too. You're funny and you're smart. I
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like that very much. Uh yeah, so so that would that would mean
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you said the dead dead people. What did you say? That was?
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No, I've read that somewhere, you know, when I was doing research
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from the book, said it's place of the dead man or something like that.
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Now there is there is a dead man's hollow just north of me,
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about a mile in the mountains behind me. And I know there's a dead
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man's hollow there. I don't know his name for that or what, but
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well, would that would that point towards maybe skin walkers in your area?
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Is that what that referred to? I don't know, uh I. I
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just kind of rent across the the Choctaw skin walker legend when I was writing
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this latest youth book. And you know, there's a different spin on it.
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The Choctaw here, you know, the Ishkatini that's there were for horned
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ow, great horned owl. But it's also like a spirit that will when
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it screeches at night, somebody's gonna die. Somebody if you hear it,
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somebody you know, is gonna die. Now, the other Gulf Coast tribes,
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like the Creek tribes in uh Georgia and your neck of the woods there
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Ishkatini, they believe in it too, but it's more of a skin walker
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in their tribal customs. Like you know, it actually assumes the kind of
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a shape of like a man owl, and during the day they appear as
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human, you know, like a normal human being, but then at night
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they change into this, you know, instead of like you have your Navajo
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skin walkers turn it into whatever, a wolfman kind of thing. What is
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it they turn into? He forget, But anyway, yeah, this means
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they turn into like a kind of like a we're owl, or if if
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you had aw with Alan man instead of wolfing man and something like that,
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and it actually it to change. It has to vomit up its soul and
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some of its innerns. And if it eats like a human, it can
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walk during the day looking like the human whose innerest it is ingested. And
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then yeah, so it was pretty interesting. And so when I was writing
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that book, you know, I thought that's a little scary for some of
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the youngsters. But I've toned it down a little bit. But it was
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really interesting story. John, I think that's right up my son's ali because
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he loves talking about all the gross stuff. Okay, vomit skin he loves
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skinwalkers. Okay, my son is obsessed. He told me he wants to
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be the skin walker Hunter, is what he told me. That that's his
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name. He wants to be the skin walker Hunter. John. That's pretty
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terrifying for a mother scrypted Hunter's son becomes the skin walter and it bit's bearing
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on the legacy. It wouldn't be, It wouldn't It's not so weird coming
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from a mother like myself, right, So yeah, yeah, I can
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see it. Well, I'll get him a book this week. I like
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I said, I have, just like in the last couple of weeks,
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got my copies in A Curse of the Ishkatini, my latest book. And
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but I've been so busy trying to get this next book out, I haven't
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really sent any out yet. So I'll get one to him. Well,
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thank you. I know he'd appreciate that he's got your other your other book
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and Shadow Chasers, and it's it's amazing. We we really appreciate you,
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John and and just putting putting the information out there. And you're one of
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my favorite a you're you are my favorite author actually than you. Yeah,
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you are, because I mean I don't really have time to read books anymore,
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but I read your books. Yes, I read your books any day.
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Absolutely. And and I was I'm glad that you said Ishtecchini or before
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I said it, because I can't pronounce it obviously. I was actually a
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little worried about having to pronounce that tonight. So you need a little time
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in Oklahoma. They'll straighten you up down here, I do. Oh my
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gosh, Well, okay, so I have seen Okay, somebody sent me
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pictures or it's actually a video. One day, John of Okay, I'm
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gonna let me. Let me give you the background first. Okay. So
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people send me videos and pictures all the time because I'm the cryptic hunters,
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okay, and so they sent me. I get weird stuff sent to me
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pretty often. And one day somebody sent me a video of a woman who
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who was camping out in a campground. She heard some strange noises outside and
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just assumed that it was a big foot, but she didn't know for sure.
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So she took her camera phone and she went and she scanned the area
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with her phone and took a video. She didn't hear anything else, and
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then she went back to bed. Okay, Well, the next morning she
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checked her phone and in her phone on that video, there was a gigantic
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it looked like a human in in a tree, naked, but also like
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an owl as well as like an awl. Man. Okay, there you
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go, Yeah, a tree. I've never heard of this before, Okay,
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and so now it kind of makes sense because I thought, maybe it's
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just some you know, feral human or god knows what. You don't you
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don't know what you're gonna get out there in those woods sometimes. But that
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would make sense that that could be what she saw. And I saw it
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in the video. I have to find that video and post it or send
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it to you. Yeah, I post it if you can find it.
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I'd like to see that. I will. Well, it actually might.
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I think it made its rounds on the internet a while back too, So
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I'll look that up. But yeah, I've got some steel shots I need
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to send you because that's pretty terrifying. Yeah. And so owls actually do
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regurgitate their food, right? Is that what they do? They throw it
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up and they well, I don't know. They may don't they throw it
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up to feed their young. How birds do? I don't know. I
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don't know what. I wouldn't studying real outs, that was studying cryptid out
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so well, and I know you do your research, John, and I
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and so that's why I really wanted to talk to you about these skinwalkers that
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you guys that you've put in your books, because I know you do your
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research on the region where you live. Because at all your you take a
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historical account to everything that you write about. And uh, and so I
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think that's wonderful. And uh and I think and in addition to we have
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we have like boots on the ground researchers out there, and then we have
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the academic researchers the people call armchair researchers and all that stuff. I think
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everything's important when it comes to researching cryptids and uh, in anything in the
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paranormal and uh and I love it because you do. You do your research
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so well for your books that it seems like you have some inside information.
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John, Thank you. And you know the information I get is from other
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researchers. You know that, you know, people like yourself that go out
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in the woods and things like that. It's like, uh, right now,
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have you been out this some with your I've got a lot, absolutely,
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I have. I have gone out so much. I actually just did
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a big investigation up in Tennessee last month at a haunted property that had potential
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skin walkers. Actually, John, really, yeah, up in North Tennessee,
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in Whitneyville, North Carolina, Whitneyville, Tennessee. Yeah, in the
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summertime, I would not be up camping with the chiggers and the tigs.
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Oh god, it was so hard. Did you had bolt season for me?
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I walk out the runway, look up the sky as anything. Yes,
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No, if not, I just go back to the air conditioning.
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Well, okay, so it had a cave. So if you know anything
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about caves, you go inside a cave and it's like ten to twenty degrees
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cooler inside that cave. Now, yes, we had to deal with potential
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skin walkers in that cave. So I had to watch We had to watch
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our backs the whole time we were in there. Thank goodness, we didn't
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encounter any skin walkers. Okay, but but that was it's actually on chop
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Tall land. Oh was it? What's stay? Were you like, Missission?
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It was Tennessee, North Tennessee, m Yeah, the land. There
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were four she had four hundred and eighty eight acres, and there was potential
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skinwalker activity, dog men, sasquatch. Definitely UFOs, John, it's right
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up your alley. Yeah, it would be love that. Yeah. Absolutely.
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Speaking of UFOs, I wanted to ask you tonight about these hearings that
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we've had, the congressional hearings. That something I haven't talked about on my
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show yet, you know, because I've been talking about Krypton so much.
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I wanted to get somebody that was retired US Air Force to have a conversation
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with me about this. Did you happen to watch the congressional hearings? Yeah,
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I did. I didn't watched the whole thing, but I watched part
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of it. And a funny thing, you say, somebody from the Air
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Force, all these videos are coming from the Navy. I don't know Navy
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fighter pilots encountering these things, and I'm wondering if they're encountering because at sea
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and not over you know, the continental US, like you know, most
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air Force planes are flying over land, and but out to sea, it's
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going to be the Navy and that's where these things are being spotted. So
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it was pretty groundbreaking stuff for me. I think the biggest thing for me
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that came out of it was admitting that there had been biological remains found in
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these crash sites. Because you can look at these videos if they've been putting
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out since twenty seventeen, and yeah, they're doing some fantastic stuff these aircraft,
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but you can still almost make a case heye, that might be a
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drone, you know, because it's doing things you couldn't do with the human
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being inside it anyway, it would kill them. The maneuvers, but you
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know it's I still think, well, it maybe otherworldly, but there's still
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that chance it's a drone. But now when you start talking about biological remains,
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that's a game changer that that absolutely says it's not from here. Yeah,
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you know, I found it very interesting. They were talking about interdimensional
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potential, okay, like these things could potentially be interdimensional crafts and beings.
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I couldn't believe what I was hearing, honestly, and you know I didn't.
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I haven't had time to really watch all the hearings, but I watched
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a good bit of it, and there was a lot of stuff that really
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caught my attention. John. And and if you're familiar with my team's research,
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we've actually encountered a black cube or a cube out in the field and
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uh. And they were talking about the craft that they had encountered for over
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a period of eight years up until even the present right now. It was
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a cube, like a gray colored cube in a sphere. That that's what
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these crafts look like. They say, well, there you I mean that,
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Yeah, that that's something. And okay, are you able to say
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whereabouts you saw these what state anyway or or is it something. It was
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in the south. It was into the south. I can't give the location
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away, but it was in the south. Yeah, it was down here
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where I live somewhere. Well that's really yeah, it's the meadow. Could
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you could you estimate it was? It wasn't. It wasn't the size of
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a football field, okay, like they were talking about. It was about
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the size of what I always say, it's like the size of a shed
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behind your house. Like really it was. It's like a tool shed size.
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Okay. It was big enough for two men to walk up to it
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and into it and disappear, and it looked like it always just reminds me
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of like a garage or something like that size. Yeah, So, but
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it was no they there was nothing. All we could see in the video
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that we have that was recorded of them walking up to it, it's just
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a heat signature. So it wasn't solid. It wasn't solid at all.
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So I can't say that was an actual craft. We call it a portal
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because we don't know what else to call it, right, But it could
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have been a craft, John, Absolutely, it could have been. I'm
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being absolutely Yeah. Well, okay, thanks for telling me that don't be
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surprised you see it in one of my books. You know, it's things
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like this is where I get get ideas for books I'm writing, or you
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know, you'd be surprised. I'm just hearing something like this can morph into
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a you know, three or four chapters. So I love hearing people's encounters
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with things like this. Yeah, Okay, So David Politis has that movie,
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the Missing four one one, the UFO movie. I haven't haven't seen
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it. I'm like the only person that hasn't seen it yet, and I
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regret not seeing that, but people have told me, and I actually saw
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a little excerpt from it. There was a man describing a cube UFO in
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that there is. Yeah, so it's it's almost like that disclosure. Well,
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you know, for years especially, I think it was about twenty fourteen.
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I first bumped into David Politis his research and his stories, and you
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know, he would never he would never say what he thought it was.
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And I remember one of those stories. I don't know if you recall this,
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the Steve Martin was at the name of the little boy that disappeared.
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I think it was in Great Smoky Mountains, and you know, even the
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green Berets came out looking for this kid, and I mean he was just
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gone in a flash. And another family had seen something, you know that
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they weren't sure looked quite human, but with human ish looking, with something
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thrown over his shoulders, and they were thinking it might have been that little
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boy. So automatically I'm writing, I'm just getting into big Foot research,
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and I'm thinking, well, that had to be big Foot. And so
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I was always assuming these things, you know, taking people in these national
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parts is probably a sasquatch and uh, but then he started having the same
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things happen in cities and you know, outskirts of cities and in places you
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know you wouldn't find a sasquatch. And so now it does kind of make
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sense that it could possibly be UFOs. And now that you know they're admitting,
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yes, there's been biological remains, you know, it makes you it
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makes you question that that even more. You know that that seems to be
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a very valid answer for what's causing some of these disappearances. Yeah. Absolutely.
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You know, they actually also talked about getting crashed UFOs. I guess,
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I mean, at some point they're talking about people being harmed by these
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non human entities, Okay, like the potential of like people that have been
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hurt by them and by their craft. And this is something i'd heard before,
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John. At some point I had a discussion. Maybe it was with
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you, I don't remember. I do a lot of I do a lot
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of shows, John. You know, there was a couple of women,
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I think it was around seventy five to seventy eight down in South Texas,
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and they had a little boy with him, and they encountered a UFO over
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a highway and they got out and then some helicopters came and the UFO left.
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It was like the helicopters for chasing it. But I believe both of
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them women developed cancer and died within a couple of years of that that event.
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Now I don't know what happened a little boy. You know, I
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haven't done any follow up on it, but I've seen one of them interviewed,
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you know, I've seen an interview one of the ladies a couple of
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times. I think it may have been on in Search of or something like
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that. But yeah, that's the one I can think of where people were
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harmed by the craft. Bob Lazarre mentioned that he thought some people may have
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died out at area fifty one at S four when they tried to cut up
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what they thought was I think they cut a hole in or entered, made
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some kind of decision and what they considered the power source for one of these
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UFOs they had, and I believe it killed killed somebody, maybe more more
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than one. So, yeah, you know, you don't know what you're
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messing with there. So what kind of entertewer or toxic toxins? You know,
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it could be anything. Okay, So let's just say that that cube
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that my team experienced out on the field was a craft of some sort because
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when when it's the gentlemen what were guided to it. They walked up to
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this cube. Okay, it was a cube. It was three dimensional,
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okay, And when they walked up to it, they couldn't see it with
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their own eyes, but they disappeared. Their heat signatures disappeared. As they
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walked up to it. The environment changed. They knew to walk back out
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of it. They walked out, backed out, their heat signatures reappeared.
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The cube shrunk down, John, and then it moved. It disappeared.
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Okay, let's just say that was a craft. I would think that would
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be a craft. But didn't you have a member of your team enter a
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portal at one time? That's the portal. That's what we can say.
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Okay, but what if it wasn't a portal, what if it was a
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craft? And yeah, I'm just saying both of them got sick after that.
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They got hit with some radiation and uh, and yes, we do
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have a lot of radiation when anything paranormal happens, like not a lot,
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like a little tiny spike radiation will happen during any kind of paranormal activity out
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in the field. Okay, because we we measure and h you do carry
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Geiger counter. Yeah, oh yeah. Now Bob got an aggressive form of
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cancer. Shortly after his cancer returned. And then the other gentleman that walked
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in, he he died about it's been two years now, I believe since
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yeah, he passed away. Now he got a heart condition. Now we're
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not saying that was one hundred percent we believe it was connected. But we
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have our suspicions. He was a healthy man, very healthy Army Army ranger,
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retired Special Forces guy. So he we have our suspicions John that that
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could have made him very sick, I would think, so, I don't
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know if I would. I wouldn't walk into one. I wouldn't walk up
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to one. If there's something that wanted to encounter me is going to have
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to come get I just don't think I would walk up to something like that
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because you know, well if you look at it in your case or bat
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in a thousand, you know, so, yes, well you know it
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was interesting. Two guys walked in and neither one of them had a good
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reaction to it. Yeah, that's right. Well it wasn't It wasn't immediate,
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they didn't know, but but it was pretty quickly after that, yeah,
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pretty soon. So there are dangerous to this research that we do out
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there, and I'm just glad that they didn't get sucked into this whatever that
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was and disappeared forever, you know. And I think that's I think that's
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where a lot of these missing people are going. John out of these parks
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and you know, national forests and things. I think that's where they're going
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too. If you ever get a chance to see the one about the UFOs,
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watch it. It's pretty it's pretty spooky. I watched it one night.
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I couldn't sleep and I watched it about three o'clock in the morning.
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It's just kind of creepy the things some of these guys talked about before they
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disappeared. There was one guy that saw these UFOs before he disappeared, so
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may have been more, but it's just a creepy story. Oh yeah,
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oh yeah. Any anything happened out happening out in the woods is a little
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bit creepy. And Derek has a good point. These crafts are putting out
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projections, holograph holographic projection projections. They did talk about that too in the
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hearing. I do recall them saying that they are multidimensional, potentially multidimensional craft
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and potentially you know, we all have our we all have our our beliefs
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and our theories, and I tend to lean towards the multi dimensional things just
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on the basis of how long it would take to move from Star eight to
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start B And you know, I know, like science fiction movies like to
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show cryogenics and things like that, but I think if anything's possible, it's
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going to have to be a dimensional pop you know, you get some kind
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of skip through a dimension or something like that, like maybe a wormhole or
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something but you pick up a shortcut for me to b you know, it's
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like I think I've seen it, you know, like imagine this add towards
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box. You would fold it and now you're here and you can get to
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hear. You know, if they can find a way to bend like time
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dimensions, they can do. It's in and to me that makes the most
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sense on how to get from one place to another. Well, I mean,
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of course, I believe our governments are military. I don't know agencies
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whoever they are. I think they've had access to this technology for a long
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time and they know. I mean, I you know, doing shows and
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knowing personally some of the guys with a secret space program. There's a whole
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lot more out there than what we're told, and it's all classified right.
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Well, you know, I remember when I was about to get out of
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the Air Force. The last two years I was in, I had gone
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from being on the platline to what was called disaster preparedness and it was kind
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of like FEMA for the Air Force. We were a little bit you know.
27:48
Well, the biggest thing we did was teach nuclear, biological, chemical
27:51
warfare defense training, which you know meant talking to people for a couple of
27:56
hours, marching gas chamber and gas and them. You know all that anybody
28:00
in the military, NBC, nobody cares. That's what he stood for.
28:03
But but also, you know, we had to do with disaster recovery,
28:10
post attack recovery, things like that. And I remember going through the checklist.
28:15
I was lining up the checklists and stuff one day and making sure they
28:18
were all in order. And there was a checklist for UFO encounter or UFO
28:26
landing or investigation. And it wasn't much. It wasn't saying it was UFOs
28:30
or anything like that. It just said, you know, security police would
28:33
set a cord on, measurements would be taken. You know, you would
28:38
send in like a disaster preparedness guy or somebody else with the instruments guiger counter
28:44
or whatever see that the area was safe from any kind of radiation or any
28:48
other contaminants. And I just remember looking at that and thinking, well,
28:53
the Air Force position, you know this is back in the early nineties,
28:56
was UFOs don't exist. Why do we need a checklist? You know,
29:03
I just thought it was kind of funny. Yeah, And you know,
29:07
I don't know if that was something that was Pacific to where I was at.
29:11
I was in Georgia's time, by the way, and there was something
29:15
specific for that base or what. But I just thought it was kind of
29:18
funny. I didn't think too hard on it, other than it's kind of
29:21
weird when they say they don't exist, but they got a checklist, so
29:26
I know, right, it's like they say that Sasquatch isn't real, Bigfoot,
29:30
it's not real. But allegedly there's a map that is a topographic topographic
29:36
map for the Air Force actually classify sasquatch is a dangerous animal. Really,
29:41
yeah, well, I didn't show there may be military wide. We're out
29:45
in a Pacific northwest in some of the training areas. They do survival schools
29:51
and stuff out there, and that may be one. Plus. I do
29:56
have to say on that checklist UFO UFO is unidentified. Once it's identified,
30:03
it may not be a spacecraft. You know, that checklist could have been
30:06
there in case some kind of aircraft with hydrazine or something crashed and you know
30:11
there was hydrazine poisoning. They could kill people if they got into it.
30:15
Space show, Oh, how many people got sick? Remember the last Space
30:18
show that came apart in what was that ninety seven or so? I forget
30:26
not to challenge it one after it where the parts fell all over the United
30:30
States and fell in Texas and play a lot of people got sick because they
30:34
went out there and handled some of that debris. And wow, that's why
30:38
you would have a checklist like that too. Wow. Well and also Okay,
30:45
so allegedly I may or may not have known someone who may or may
30:48
not have done some crash retrieval. I don't know. I'm just saying a
30:52
UFO crash retrieval stuff, right. I don't know if somebody told me this
30:57
or if I read it somewhere. I don't know how I have this information,
31:00
John, I really don't. I don't remember. I've done so many
31:03
shows. Everything melts together at this point. But there were there were servicemen
31:10
like people in our military that were they're doing crash UFO crash retrievals that were
31:14
getting very sick. And there they were getting headaches and potentially I don't know
31:18
if it was like brain tumors or what was going on, but allegedly there
31:22
was some sort of helmet that was made to put for these people to wear
31:27
when they go to these crash retrievals, so they don't get their headaches and
31:30
they don't get tumors, they don't get you know, all the radiation.
31:33
Does it go to their head? I don't know where where I got that.
31:41
When you said there were these helmets, I was thinking that they recovered
31:44
these helmets and somebody put it on, and I was thinking, and that
31:48
was about the last It sounds like a typical GI goes O, oh,
31:51
look at this, But what's gonna do it? Is that that's a possibility
31:56
though too though, you know, isn't there are a whole lot of reverse
32:00
engineering going on? You think? I believe, I believe there is.
32:06
I mean, you know, reverse engineering is not a new thing. The
32:10
Russians did it to us at the end of World War Two. We had
32:14
I think it was four or five of our B twenty nine that were bomb
32:16
in Japan had to land in Soviet occupied territory for whatever reason, and the
32:24
Russians kept them and then they came out and they reversed engineered those bombers because
32:30
they were, you know, they were the peak of technology bomber technology.
32:34
In nineteen forty five, the Russians kept them, and then they came out
32:37
they developed our code name for it was a Bison, but it was basically
32:42
a Russian built B twenty nine superportress. And so yeah, they reversed engineering
32:46
built their own. So it's not a good concept. It's been around for
32:51
a long time. Oh yeah, okay, so I didn't I don't know
32:55
if they disclosed this during this hearing, John, But how far dosy it
33:00
goes back? Like, how many years has it been since they actually retrieved
33:06
a not what they call it, a non human body or a non human
33:09
entity what they called those I wrote it down and non human? How long
33:15
do you think it's been roswell or do you think before? I think before.
33:19
I think Cape Gerardo, Missouri may have been our first encountered with that.
33:22
There was a crash there in nineteen forty one, before we were in
33:25
the war. There was also a crash in the Black Force in Germany.
33:30
I think maybe thirty eight, maybe a little young earlier, where they had
33:35
like the same thing, and I think we may have had biologicals then,
33:42
if not sooner. Look at the old story. Have you heard about Aurora,
33:45
Texas supposedly had the UFO. I think it was in the eighteen hundreds,
33:51
late eighteen hundreds, and they buried the little guy somewhere there in that
33:55
cemetery in Aurora. So who knows how long we've had, But I've always
34:00
wondered, if you know, it was kind of a thought, are these
34:07
crashes that they had, like in Black Force Germany? Is that where Hitler
34:10
got his jump on the on the technology to create the first jets and this
34:16
and that, and if we had picked up stuff from Cape the Cape Girardo
34:21
crash, is that where we got the jump on having things like vision and
34:27
the atomic mom and you know, it makes you wonder. It makes me
34:30
wonder anyway, it does makes you wonder. I mean some of the things
34:35
that I've heard of. There's one thing that I know that I remember hearing
34:38
that was created from being like reverse technology from a spacecraft that was velcro.
34:44
Have you heard that before? Yeah, yes, that's interesting, right right,
34:49
Yeah, you know, we we we had a lot of stuff kind
34:53
of sneak into our our culture everyday lives that came from the space programs and
35:00
the sixties and seventies. Yeah, that's fascinating. Absolutely. Yeah, Well,
35:07
I don't know, this is this is all just very historical. I
35:09
mean the fact that they're coming out, it's almost like we're getting the disclosure
35:14
now, John, Do you think that there's some sort of agenda behind this?
35:17
I mean, why are they doing this now? Okay? Well,
35:20
I really hope, I really hope it's not just to get our attention off
35:24
everything else. You know, things are mess right now, it's not really.
35:30
I just noticed in the last week gas jump thirty cents again. Oh
35:37
my gosh, yes it did. And I'm like, what caused this?
35:40
And you know, I hope, I hope it's I really hope and pray
35:45
it's actual disclosure. I just hope it's not a red herring or you know,
35:50
the slide of hand look over here while I do something over here.
35:53
You know. So, I really do hope it's it's genuine disclosure. I
35:58
feel like it is because, well, basically because of the people they're interviewing.
36:02
I mean, those are those are top notch Americans. You know,
36:07
they they're they're truthful. There, they are people I would trust, you
36:13
know, so you know, talking about like Lieutenant Commander Favor and the other
36:16
two gentlemen, they seem like trustworthy individuals. They do. There's Ryan Graves,
36:23
David Grush and David is it faver Favor? Yeah, yeah, I
36:30
think it was Grush. Isn't he the one that brought out the biologicals?
36:35
Who was at him? Or was the other guy? You know what,
36:38
I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't remember who said what.
36:43
I don't remember. I think Ryan Graves was saying most. It was coming
36:46
out with most information actually when I was watching it, so I was.
36:52
I was thoroughly impressed, though I wasn't expecting to even get that much information.
36:55
No, I heard them to give us that much information. Well,
37:00
you know, at first, I'm thinking, okay, it's just the same
37:01
old stuff they showed us a couple of years ago. But there was more
37:06
your your spear with the with the cube Where the cube? I've heard that
37:12
mentioned before and Lue Alexando is one of the programs he's on regularly. They
37:20
mentioned that they interviewed one of the pilots that had encountered that spear with a
37:24
cube inside. So wow, wow, Well that's okay. So the cube
37:30
is actually how I made good became good friends with my my buddy very Littleton.
37:35
Yeah, because I saw it he was doing. We were both speaking
37:37
at a conference, and I had just spoken about a cube that my team
37:42
encountered, and then I heard his presentation and he's showing pictures of a cube
37:45
that he encountered inside of a spacecraft when he had been basically abducted by ets
37:52
at one point. So we we bonded over that, and we we set
37:55
out on trying to figure out what these cubes are. We did shows after
38:00
shows together of about the cubes and low and behold. Here we go with
38:06
disclosure and they're talking about cubes being spacecraft and stuff. So it's just it's
38:12
mind blowing. I just want to I just want to stay publicly. I
38:14
was talking about this about two years ago, y'all publicly, Okay, as
38:19
as I already knows Barry ever lit on and if he has, don't you
38:25
know, I don't even know if it should ask this because it's kind of
38:28
personal. But his health has been good as far as you know. Oh
38:32
well, well, Barry actually at some point he's had a couple of near
38:36
death experiences and was in the hospital for a long time. He's he's had
38:42
some health issues actually and stuff. So yeah, I don't I think it's
38:46
seen from an accident most of it. So yeah, but he's he's here
38:52
today. It's a miracle. He's alive actually right now. So yeah,
38:55
I know, like Travis Walton, some of these people have been abducted,
39:02
they never seem to have health issues. I guess that's why I was asking
39:07
that. But then again, you know, if I think being abductive maybe
39:13
a whole different trip than you know, running up running up into a glowing
39:17
cube and spears, I know. Well, I mean, seriously, let
39:24
me tell you something, which is really funny. Having to come up with
39:28
protocol is like what you're gonna do. Would if we ever experience another portal
39:30
or a cube tying ropes around people I'm holding them out? I mean,
39:37
it's weird, right, I wouldn't encourage anybody to, you know, enter
39:42
it. I mean, if whatever's controlling that thing wants you in, it
39:46
will bring you in safely, I would think, or else it's gonna bring
39:50
in and never put you back. But okay, imagine this, say you
39:53
took okay, like a Harrier jump jet. You know they can land vertically
39:59
up and down or one of the new f thirty fives that can do it.
40:01
So this thing land and he's got his engines full full board, and
40:07
he's landed in front of a bunch of little people never seen anything like this
40:09
in their whole life. The buyers coming out of the back end, so
40:14
they don't want to go buyer's bad. They know fire's bad, so they
40:16
run up to the intake, gets sucked down the intake. You know,
40:21
you don't know what you're going in on, So it's kind of that's kind
40:23
of an example of whine. I think you shouldn't approach you know, you
40:28
shouldn't approach these things too close. Oh my gosh, I wouldn't listen.
40:31
I'm not one of the people who's ever volunteered. As a matter of fact,
40:35
we were asking everybody who has the best health insurance? Okay, who's
40:37
got the life life insurance policy? And I'm a I'm a mom of a
40:43
young child, so I am not on the list of people going into the
40:45
queue ever, So you're not. Nobody's gonna tie a rope around you.
40:49
I'll film it, I'll see him back and watch whoever goes in go in,
40:52
and I'll be there to call nine one one if we need to get
40:54
We'll get somebody to kind of extract the rest of us out of there if
40:58
needed. But but yeah, yeah, it's uh. But but I mean
41:01
these real life things that we encounter out there call for some real life solutions,
41:07
like what are we gonna do? You know, I can understand to
41:10
a point if you encounter something like this and you're thinking, I may never
41:15
see this again, and I can understand human curiosity, But I don't know
41:21
about just actually walking in. That took you know, that took a lot
41:23
of guts. But like you said, one one of the guys was a
41:27
Special Forces guy, and you know the other was probably adventurous. I mean,
41:32
they wouldn't be out doing what they're doing if they weren't adventurous guys.
41:36
So I can see people doing it, but you know, I don't know.
41:42
It's just well, we do listen. If anybody's gonna do, it's
41:45
gonna be my team. And and I'll come back. We'll be talking about
41:49
it. And uh, like an uncooked ham or big pot roats. Next
41:52
time I wrote around it and throw it in there and pull it out,
41:55
it looks, oh my gosh. Oh, I don't know of aliens eat
42:00
that stuff, but who knows. I don't know it it comes out uncooked.
42:04
You might be safe to try going in uncooked. Oh my gosh,
42:07
I know who knows. Hey, the last time I went out to the
42:12
meadow where the thing showed up, I mean I took I took Ben out
42:15
there, my son and uh, and we've we've gathered up like courts rock
42:19
from right where that the portal open, and I've been giving out little pieces
42:22
of courts to like some of my friends and stuff. When I see them,
42:23
I'm like, all right, just wait for that hologram to show up
42:27
in your house one night, you know, yeah, some aliens or whatever.
42:30
But no, it's it's all in good fun. But this area with
42:34
the courts, did you have any like magnetic issues like true North none,
42:39
you know, pole swapping, magnetic poles we've had. Yeah, we've had
42:45
that happen out in the meadow. Yeah for sure, where all the compasses
42:47
all of our equipment starts going crazy about functioning. So yeah, absolutely,
42:52
it's an area of high strangeness. Yeah, there's a crystal mine near here.
42:58
Your Mina, Arkansas is about forty miles away, and I went out
43:01
there one weekend with a friend of mine and it was pretty strange. There's
43:06
a lot of crystal and stuff, and you could take your compass and put
43:08
it on a metal you know, regular te pose for barbed wire, and
43:15
it would show north going this proper direction. You could go the other one
43:21
and it would be pointing south and sit the north and you could take it
43:24
down the bottom and you know, it would change again. It was pretty
43:28
weird. Yeah, you know. I just recently was given a blind target
43:32
to remote view and it turned out to be the Bermuda Triangle. Oh really,
43:37
And it turns out with my data it was all about crystals. There's
43:42
there's crystals down in the ocean, and it was the crystals are putting off
43:45
some kind of energy that like takes all the equipment and makes it go hey,
43:50
wire and stuff when it comes to electronics and compasses and all that stuff.
43:55
And so it had to do with these crystals that are under the under
43:58
the ocean and gems and things like that, which was really interesting. One
44:02
day when you have the time to remote view the Kecksburg UFO. Oh yeah,
44:08
I have to write that down. We'll do Hey, I'll do it.
44:12
We'll do a show on it sometime. I'll put it on the list
44:14
a lot of other targets. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, well,
44:19
hey, let's talk a little bit before we go to night, because
44:22
we still got a few minutes. We got a little while. I would
44:23
love to hear any do you have any updates on any kind of sasquatch sightings
44:28
anything going on in Oklahoma? Because I just saw a thing a couple of
44:34
days ago. We have a we have a group that kind of work out
44:37
a hone be a lot. It's called No Bro Native Oklahoma and big Foot
44:42
Research Organization. And one of their guys and I like this guy. He's
44:45
a he's a just a good guy. He's honest, got a lot of
44:51
integrity, and he was he posted about a class A siding here. Now
44:57
I was back in February, I think, and I'm meant to look it
45:00
up before I came on. But if anybody's interested, go to no Bro
45:06
Native Oklahoma big big Foot Research Organization and you can find the stories there.
45:12
As a matter of fact, I think it's posted on Daryl's group. What
45:17
is that? Big Foot believers and other creatures posted in there as well,
45:23
but they haven't been about all I've heard about. Okay, Well cool,
45:29
will you guys have some really interesting stories up there with the Siege of Hanobi,
45:32
right or Hanobi if I get that right? Yeah, yeah, And
45:38
here's something that's interested. And it's been it's been kind of a little mystery
45:45
with me for the past few months. But I've been noticing at nighttime,
45:49
if I look to the south, i'll see a little you know, I'll
45:51
see you know how satellite looks at night. Well, a couple of times
45:54
I'm saying, it's a little satellite looking towards me, and it'll get to
45:57
a certain point, you know, and it reflects light real well for about
46:00
a second. One night, I was watching it do it, and it
46:04
reflected light and answered the reflection went out. I couldn't see it anymore,
46:08
and I thought, okay, it's you know, it's completely in a shadow
46:13
now. But then I saw there was just a faint, little pinpoint of
46:16
light I could see, and I'm watching it and it's moving, and it
46:20
kept moving. It kept moving, and it got even with another star,
46:23
you know, not anywhere near the star, you know, things light years
46:28
away, I understand. But it quit moving because I was using that as
46:31
a judge on track, and it's movement, and all of a sudden it
46:35
gets there and stops and then it flashes again, you know, it reflects
46:39
sunlight again. And then instead of going from north to south, it moved
46:44
west and it blashed again, and it moved off, and I'm thinking,
46:49
Okay, it's not an airplane. It's way too high to be an airplane.
46:52
It's not a satellite. It's uh, you know, satellites don't just
46:59
change your orbit and come to a sudden stop and then move over, you
47:02
know, one hundred miles or so and then proceed on. And I told
47:08
a couple of people about it, and I asked, okay, Bendervan or
47:10
whatever. And I'm like, okay, and I've seen it, you know,
47:15
at least three times. And a couple of weeks ago, we were
47:20
over some friends one evening and there were seven adults and the woman of the
47:24
house. We're all sitting outside and she said, hey, what is that?
47:29
And finally it was this thing and it was doing the same thing,
47:32
and there was seven of us that saw it this time. Now I'm not
47:37
saying it's applying saucer UFO. It is unidentified. And again, the only
47:43
thing I'm wondering is do we have some kind of drone that can manipulate,
47:47
you know, they can manipulate. That's forty pig for your folks, but
47:53
that they can manipulate from the ground and have him stop in orbit, possibly
47:58
using retro rockets or something, move over and proceed on in a new orbit.
48:04
I don't know, but it's interesting. I have no idea what it
48:07
is. I can't find anything about anybody revealing any information on it, any
48:14
technology, you know like that. So but I was glad to have some
48:19
other witnesses. You know. It's always better when you got other people to
48:22
see something it is. I know, and I'd love that you did that,
48:25
you know. The first time that I saw I had some serious UFO
48:30
sightings, like out in the field. My partners I was sitting out there
48:34
with He was like, okay, because I kept saying, I see these
48:37
lights and they're moving weird, but I can't tell if my eyes are playing
48:38
tricks on me. And he taught me to put my finger up and to
48:43
put it right on where that lat light was and to let it move and
48:47
keep your finger as still as you can. And that's how I could tell
48:51
that it was moving in triangular patterns and stuff. It was. It was
48:53
the finger the finger tests. We said I had to happen in Texas back
48:59
in twenty said I had one moving in a triangular pattern, and I think
49:04
I told you that one of my earlier business. But yeah, it's freaky.
49:09
When you see that, it really is. Wow, it is.
49:13
It is weird. Speaking of weird stuff, you actually have a big foot
49:17
that you cited on your on your property where you live, right. I
49:22
cannot I cannot think it was anything else. And the funny thing is,
49:29
I was trying to debunk it, you know, and I only saw it
49:31
for about four seconds and it rent But as soon as I saw it running,
49:36
I knew what it was. And so the next day I'm going to
49:39
debunk it. I go over. I'm thinking, okay, they thing was.
49:42
You know, it's probably probably just some real fast kid or something.
49:45
You know, it's only about six foot tall. One thing was nearly eight
49:47
foot tall. Is about seven and a half foot. Because I was able
49:51
to remember a branch on a tree. It rent by and there was no
49:57
tracks. It was the heat of the summer. Was August, August twenty
50:00
eighteen, and I wished I hadn't seen it. I mean for the longest
50:07
I wished I hadn't seen it, because if I told anybody, yeah right,
50:10
whatever, you know. And but then Monica and a couple other people
50:15
saw one a few months later, same area, and a neighbor I have,
50:21
you know the funny thing, you got to seize your hanobi here.
50:23
And I got good friends. I loved the death, and if I tell
50:28
them about Bigfoot, they'll laugh me out of the county, you know.
50:31
And then I got friends that think they're real and say they had encountered.
50:36
So it just boils down to who you're targeted to what they've seen. I
50:40
don't think, you know, a lot of people come out here Bigfoot hunt
50:44
him, and I just don't think you're gonna find them hunting for him.
50:46
I think if you're gonna see one, it's gonna be a total pure accident,
50:52
like my sliding was. I just happened to look down and bang,
50:54
there it was, you know. So I don't know. It could be
51:00
wrong. Maybe it's just I'm lazy and I don't want to go out looking
51:02
for him. Funny thing was, though, it kind of like people ask,
51:08
well, what do you think big Foot is? Well, by what
51:12
I saw, I think it's an animal that but from other other things I've
51:15
encountered, and like I've seen the disappearing footprints and things like that where there
51:22
should be more footprints because the materials so muddy or sloft and there's not.
51:28
But when you encounter things like that, you gotta wonder, well, are
51:30
they just an animal or are they something else? And it's like after I
51:38
had my sight and I almost I was that close to just being bored with
51:43
it. It's like, Okay, I've seen one big deal. I want
51:46
to get back to ut post. But and people said, well, you're
51:52
crazy, man, you should be out there every night. I'm like,
51:54
no, because you can sit out there every night minting the rest of your
51:59
life and not see one. And you know, it's just one of those
52:02
one of those things. I've told this story before and it cracks me up.
52:07
Got an elderly couple. We know, that's funny, me and my
52:10
sixies calling people elderly, but are elderly compared to men? The husband had,
52:19
you know, pretty intense big foot story. He's tried to tell me
52:22
a few times, and every time he's about to get to the great part
52:28
of the story, his wife, Oh you didn't see no big food.
52:31
I've lived out here in my whole life in things don't exist, and you
52:35
know, every time he's trying to tell the story, she does it.
52:37
So the last time he's telling the story, she starts adding, oh,
52:42
there ain't no such thing as big foot. You saw this, you didn't
52:45
see that, and blah blah, And then she stopped abruptly and looked at
52:49
me right beyond said, but you know what, we saw a blind saucer
52:52
on the way to Tallahina one night. So it's okay to see a blind
52:58
saucer is not okay. It's a big and that always takes that's hilarious.
53:04
But you're dealing with what their experiences are, what their beliefs are. You
53:10
know, sooner or later people are going to encounter something they don't believe in.
53:15
You know, not everybody, but but it happens and it changes your
53:20
view. To me, it was it was a little more comfortable thinking,
53:24
apt, they're not out there, and then when I see this, it's
53:30
like, okay, be aware of be aware of your surroundings now, you
53:32
know, not that I feel any danger or anything like that, I don't,
53:37
but it was it was it was a cool thing, you know,
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it really was a cool thing. But at the same time, when you
53:45
see something you're the only witness, you know you're gonna take some hits when
53:49
you share the story. So just gonna just gonna take my hits. I'm
53:54
still glad. I saw it. For the longest I wouldn't mention it,
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and then I mentioned it, and I started taking ins, and I'm like,
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Okay, unless somebody brings it up like you just did, I'm not
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gonna I'm not gonna bring it up myself anymore. Well, I love it,
54:07
I love your story, and I have another question. Your legislature has
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not tried to pass another bill for big foot hunting season, have they?
54:16
I haven't heard of it. I don't think they have. I really think
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that was more of a stunt than anything else to get tourism, because again,
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how bad of an idea is it to bring armed men who are walking
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around on two feet to go out in the woods looking for something else walking
54:37
around on two feet. Sooner or later, it's gonna somebody's gonna shoot a
54:42
human. You know, they're gonna get scared or something like that. They're
54:45
gonna shoot and miss, and the other guy's gonna be armed too and get
54:49
mad and shoot back. So I think the whole thing was a train wreck
54:52
waiting to happen. And yeah, I haven't heard anything else about it.
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I'm glad they kind of put it, put it to bed. I hope,
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I hope anyway, Yeah, I hope. So. I hope so
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because I don't like the thought of Bigfoot's being hunted. Yeah, I am
55:10
the cryptic huntress. But I don't harm anything, y'all. I'm not out
55:14
there to harm him. I'm out there looking for him to communicate. I'm
55:17
hunting him to communicate with him, y'all. Okay, you know I've gotten
55:22
that way of my When I grew up, I hunted, fished and enjoyed
55:27
it. My dad, you know, he was a big hunter and fisherman,
55:30
and you know I went went deer hunting and did all that. And
55:34
I don't know what happened to me, But about age thirty, I just
55:37
lost interest in killing anything. I mean, I still eat meat, and
55:42
if I needed to hunt to be myself or my family or anybody else,
55:47
yes, I would hunt. I just make the decision not to anymore.
55:53
I just I don't know. Even when I was young and I shot something,
55:57
I felt bad heck, I felt bad for fish when I don't.
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I don't know. Maybe I'm just soft. I don't. I don't begrudge
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anybody else, honey, An if that's your thing, do it. It's
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just it's just not for me anymore. And you know, like I say,
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if the time ever comes aft to live off the land, well I'll
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change my tune in. Well I'll be listen. The time has come to
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to in the show today. Unfortunately, this has been amazing, John.
56:28
I always have so much fun when you're here. I know, it's so
56:32
fun. Now, let's talk about your books. Okay, we got a
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couple of minutes. Tell everybody first of all about your book series and where
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to find your books. Okay, well, my first series Relics Adult Novels,
56:45
and it starts out in Tallahino, Oklahoma, with a group of Sasquats
56:52
to start terrorizing the town and introduce you to some characters. And it's a
56:57
three books series. The stories long and and pretty exciting from what I'm you
57:01
know, people seem to love it. So yeah, there you go.
57:06
Right there, there's covers. The other series, I kind of call it
57:10
Relics Light, but it's Shadow Chasers it's for young adults, books aren't near
57:15
as big in the settings for all three of those are in Tallahina now.
57:20
In the Relics series, first book, Relics is in Tallahina, second book,
57:25
Relics two, is here in Honabi, and the third book, Relics
57:30
Three, takes place in Heathen of Oklahoma, about about forty five miles away,
57:35
so they're all in this general, same general area. I just finished
57:39
the last book right there, Curse of the Issue Ishkatini in the Shadow Chases
57:45
series. And as I said, those books are based on three junior high
57:52
kids or the characters Ali, Logan and Finn. And the funny thing about
58:00
those, my adult readers are reading those and love them too. So if
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you want to try one of the youth series books, because they're smaller,
58:08
a lot smaller, and see if you liked the story, that might be
58:12
the place to go. Plus, the a lot of the characters from the
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Relics series make cameos in the Shadow Chasers series. So and books, and
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you can find my books at www dot relicsbook dot com. And this is
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a book I'm working on now. I hope to have it out in September.
58:35
The channeling, and it's different from anything I've written before. It's actually
58:40
going to be about contact with a civilization from outer space. And I'm really
58:47
enjoying writing this book and hopefully i'll get it finished up soon, and it's
58:52
looking like it's gonna end up being a series two. So a lot of
58:57
ideas are coming in as I'm writing this, and it's just been a lot
59:00
of fun to write. And I hope when it comes out and September you
59:05
folks enjoy yourselves by and have a good time reading it. Well heck yeah,
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and John please come back and see us again and come hang out with
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me. Everybody. Go to relicsbook dot com and get your copies today.
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They are amazing. It's my favorite book series and and my son loves his
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youth books as well. John, So thank you so much. John,
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It's all I show anytime. Well, thank you, and tell Monica thank
59:34
you so much for my beautiful shawl that she knitted me. That just it
59:37
made my day. Its mate, it's it's it's beautiful. So okay,
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John, we'll see you next time. Thank you so much. Have a
59:44
great night, okay, all right, all right, y'all. That was
59:46
amazing. I just love John Yell, don't forget the right after this show,
59:51
Marquis has a great program set up for us tonight, so y'all go
59:54
over to after Hours as soon as you leave my show tonight. I will
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see you guys next time on Off the Trails. I'll have some more awesome
1:00:02
shows for y'all next weekend. But for now, I'm the Cryptic Huntress.
1:00:06
I'm headed off the trail. Y'all have a great wall, right,