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Sarah Todd on the Utah Jazz and NBA Summer League, Darryn Peterson's play in Vegas + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: think are the odds of Utah or the Big I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve getting two teams into the playoffs. What
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Speaker 1: would have to happen for that to take place? I
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Speaker 1: think let's let's just put it this way. I think
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech is likely to be there only because their
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Speaker 1: schedules pretty easy. I could see them maybe one loss,
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Speaker 1: hitting the Big Twelve championship game, maybe even undefeated going
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Speaker 1: into that, so I think they probably are there. Utah
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Speaker 1: or by you have a chance to get in. You
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Speaker 1: just if you want to assure yourself of getting into
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you have to have one loss. You could
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Speaker 1: be a two loss team to get in. If BYU
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Speaker 1: were to beat Notre Dame in the regular season, but
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Speaker 1: then maybe have two losses in the Big Twelve, they
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Speaker 1: would still be in pretty good shape. Utah doesn't have
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Speaker 1: a great non conference schedule, but let's say the Utes
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Speaker 1: win eleven and one of the regular season but then
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Speaker 1: lost in the Big Twelve championship game. I think they'd
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Speaker 1: have a chance to get in there as well. So
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Speaker 1: it's it's not a lock by any means, but I
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Speaker 1: think they'll have a chance this year. But BYU having
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Speaker 1: that Notre Dame non conference game can really help their cause.
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Speaker 1: This one comes in from Jason's Bill. Always great to
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Speaker 1: hear from you. I'm very excited forty eight days to
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Speaker 1: go go Utes. Well, thanks Jay, I'm excited to eight
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Speaker 1: Bill Riley filling in for Sean today, we'll talk some
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Speaker 1: jazz coming up momentarily here with Sarah Todd of the
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Speaker 1: to two. Hey Bill, great to hear your voice. You
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Speaker 1: mentioned Andy Ludwig in passing a little while ago. I
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Speaker 1: still feel bad for the way he left the program.
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Speaker 1: He was so successful here. He led our offense to
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Speaker 1: two Pac twelve championships. We kicked USC's ass three times
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Speaker 1: in a row. He also led that offense and beat
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban in Alabama. I'm a little bit baffled about
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Speaker 1: how a guy who is so great suddenly loses his touch.
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Speaker 1: Did Ludwig lose his game or was the offense so
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Speaker 1: bad because of a massive number of injuries. Did he
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Speaker 1: just take one for the team because somebody needed to
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Speaker 1: be fired. No, Andy did not lose his touch. Andy
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Speaker 1: was a great offensive coordinator, not just at Utah but
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Speaker 1: other stops as well. Andy's undoing was his starting quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Cam Rising was not able to stay healthy at the
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Speaker 1: end of his career, and because because of the ever
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Speaker 1: moving nature of college football today where players don't stay
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Speaker 1: in a program for a long time, Andy's offense was
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Speaker 1: very challenging. It was Brian Johnson was in the program
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Speaker 1: for a long time and thrived in Andy's offense when
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Speaker 1: he was healthy. Cam Rising was in the Utah program
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Speaker 1: a long time and thrived in Andy's offense. To be
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Speaker 1: very fair, Bryson Barnes was in Utah's offense or in
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Speaker 1: Utah's program for a long time, and while Bryson was
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Speaker 1: a little bit more limited physically, he led Utah to
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Speaker 1: an eight and four season. Remember that because he knew
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Speaker 1: Andy's offense inside and out. Utah struggled when a guy
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Speaker 1: like Isaac Wilson, who was a true freshman, didn't know,
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Speaker 1: didn't have an extensive knowledge. Andy's offense was very intricate,
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Speaker 1: very complicated, and Kyle decided to make a move to
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Speaker 1: an offense that was a little bit more malleable, a
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Speaker 1: little bit more plug and play. So it was nothing
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Speaker 1: having that, it wasn't massive injuries. It was one injury
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Speaker 1: in particular, and that was at the quarterback position. But
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Speaker 1: Andy was I mean, he was the offense for Utah
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Speaker 1: in their best years under Kyle Whittingham, the Sugar Bowl year,
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Speaker 1: even that very if you go back in time and
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Speaker 1: look at the numbers that Brian Johnson put up before
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Speaker 1: he got injured at the end of that first year,
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Speaker 1: they were very prolific numbers. When Andy Ludwig had a
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Speaker 1: healthy quarterback and a quarterback that had been in his
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Speaker 1: system for a little while, his offense is hummed. So
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Speaker 1: that was kind of the story on Andy. But no,
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Speaker 1: he did not lose his touch suddenly. He just ran
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Speaker 1: a very complicated and intricate offense that required you having
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Speaker 1: been in the program for some time, and college football
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Speaker 1: today guys just don't stay in programs long enough. They
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Speaker 1: don't want to sit back and learn as much. They
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Speaker 1: want to go someplace and play eight seven seven three
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Speaker 1: Friend of the program, friend of mine and a tremendous
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Speaker 1: NBA writer and insider from the Deseret News, joins The
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Speaker 1: Shat O'Connell Show, Sarah Todd in right now. How are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Bill, How are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. Did you survive the heat of Las Vegas?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I should say I'm doing great.
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Speaker 3: Despite the fact that I've spent seven.
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Speaker 2: Days in Las Vegas in July. That's a big caveat here.
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Speaker 1: It almost feels like a punishment in some ways. I
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Speaker 1: have to go to Vegas one for seven days. But
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Speaker 1: also in the middle of July, I.
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Speaker 2: Realized that, like I really shouldn't complain, right, Like I
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Speaker 2: get I get paid to watch basketball, and like, I
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Speaker 2: get to go to Summer League, and there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of people that would really really love to do that.
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Speaker 2: But man, Las Vegas is just not it, you know,
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Speaker 2: like there's there's a whole lot of places. Let's move it,
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Speaker 2: let's let's have Let's have NBA Summer League in San Diego, right, like,
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Speaker 2: just somewhere where the temperature is not just the depths
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Speaker 2: of Hell and where there's a nice breeze, Like it's
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Speaker 2: just anywhere else other than the place where it could
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Speaker 2: be the hottest and most depressing during the daytime.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least the games aren't being played outside. At
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Speaker 1: least you're inside for those games. But San Diego play
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Speaker 1: them up on the Mesa via Haas Arena or downtown
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Speaker 1: a Field Sports Arena at the Convention Center.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would be so great.
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Speaker 3: I bet that there's a lot of people I think
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Speaker 3: that don't.
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Speaker 2: Go to Las Vegas during Summer League because they've gotten
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Speaker 2: to the point where they're just like, oh, I can't
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Speaker 2: do it anymore. I think that even more of the
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Speaker 2: NBA world would show up if they had it somewhere
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Speaker 2: where the weather was a little bit more temperate.
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Speaker 1: I'm lucky in a fact, I missed doing this show
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Speaker 1: sometimes and I love being able to fill in for Sean.
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Speaker 1: I don't miss tuning in to watch the hot take
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Speaker 1: shows every morning, where every play and every move of
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Speaker 1: every game, even Summer League games are analyzed, and all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're having to nitpick Darren Peterson in
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Speaker 1: real time in Summer League, which is insane. But I
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Speaker 1: would like your opinion is one that has watched him
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Speaker 1: play throughout Summer League here in Salt Lake and down
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Speaker 1: in Vegas. Give me the Sarah Todd report card on
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Speaker 1: on Darren Peterson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. My report card is I tried really hard not to,
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Speaker 2: you know, get overblown or overreact to anything. I have
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Speaker 2: to like really tell.
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Speaker 3: Myself to be intentional about that.
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Speaker 2: Every year, right, Like, you know, Darren Peterson has a
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Speaker 2: game with nine turnovers.
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Speaker 3: In Summer League and I have to I have to
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Speaker 3: tell myself.
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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter, it's summer League, Like, don't think
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Speaker 2: about it. You know, let's let's talk about a turnover
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Speaker 2: issue when Darren Peterson is actually in the NBA and
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Speaker 2: that happens you know, five six, seven games in a
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Speaker 2: row or something. This is not the time to worry
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Speaker 2: about turnovers, right and then also like just be realistic
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Speaker 2: about what the situation is and who who's around Darren Peterson.
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Speaker 2: So you know, everyone went into the summer really looking
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Speaker 2: forward to seeing Darren along with Ace Bailey and see
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Speaker 2: how Cody Williams looked. But the reality of the situation
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Speaker 2: is that Ace Bailey's dealing with some backstazins, which is
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Speaker 2: something I'm a little bit concerned about. Well, you know,
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Speaker 2: that's that's a side conversation. And Cody Williams, honestly, he
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Speaker 2: he in my estimation, didn't really look that much different
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Speaker 2: and didn't really look that great in some of the
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Speaker 2: games that he played. And so you've got the number
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Speaker 2: two pick who was in many people's eyes, could have
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Speaker 2: been the number one pick, and a bunch of guys
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Speaker 2: playing around him. They were probably never gonna sniff NBA minutes,
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Speaker 2: and everyone wants to make him look bad. And even
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Speaker 2: though they wanted to make him look bad in this
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Speaker 2: Summer League games, he still managed to score like twenty
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Speaker 2: five points, twenty eight points, twenty points, and then sixteen
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Speaker 2: points in the last game they played. Like that is
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Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, he was double team triple teamed.
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Speaker 2: They were blitzing him on basically every play, which is,
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Speaker 2: you know, that's the kind of part for the course
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Speaker 2: in summer league, defenses are really really aggressive because they're
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Speaker 2: just trying. Some of these guys want to play defense
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Speaker 2: in Summer League just because they want that breakaway dunk, right,
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Speaker 2: and some guys I just want to do it because
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Speaker 2: they want to look better than the number one or
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Speaker 2: number two pick, and so they're just they're scratching, clawing
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Speaker 2: their you know, fouling guys left and right. And so
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Speaker 2: the way that I saw is, no matter what you
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Speaker 2: think about Darren Peterson, the fact that he was basically
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Speaker 2: getting double or triple teams on every play and he
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Speaker 2: still managed to look like the best player on the
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Speaker 2: floor on most possessions, there's something really special about that,
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Speaker 2: considering that he's nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Again, small sample size, but what you've seen of him
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Speaker 1: this summer playing with guys that he won't likely play
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Speaker 1: with this season when he plays nexe Qiante George and
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Speaker 1: Larry Markin and Jaren Jackson, what skill set or what
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Speaker 1: part of his game kind of gives you the most
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Speaker 1: help or should give Jazz fans the most helpe of again.
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Speaker 1: Small sample size.
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Speaker 2: Sarah, Yeah. I mean I've watched so much of his
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Speaker 2: films from Kansas and then also film from before that too,
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Speaker 2: and he just has There's two things that really really
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Speaker 2: excite me.
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Speaker 3: It's just his.
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Speaker 2: Feel for the right moment to shoot and the fact
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Speaker 2: that he's so fluid and he just everything always looks
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Speaker 2: like it's going to go in because he has such
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Speaker 2: great touch. And so that's whether he's at the basket
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Speaker 2: or a little short like floater shot. He's got mid
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Speaker 2: range jumpers. The way that he pulls up from three,
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Speaker 2: just every single time that he goes up for a shot,
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Speaker 2: it feels like the right decision, the right shot. And
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Speaker 2: he's got such great touch from everywhere. So it's just
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Speaker 2: he's a walking bucket. That's exciting. But I think the
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Speaker 2: thing that most excites me is that at nineteen especially,
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Speaker 2: like I have to remember that this guy is a
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Speaker 2: literal teenager, that he he doesn't get sped up, and
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Speaker 2: that like when he's pressured, he really understands how to
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Speaker 2: draw contact, and he really understands like great ways to
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Speaker 2: move and get off the ball, and he he knows
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Speaker 2: how to change speeds like he knows how to speed
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Speaker 2: up physically, but doesn't get it sped up mentally. And
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Speaker 2: it's just not often that you see that in a
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Speaker 2: nineteen year old. He is so so smart with the
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Speaker 2: basketball in his hands, and that makes me really excited
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Speaker 2: because he's not going to have to go through like
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Speaker 2: the learning curve of how to draw contact to get
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Speaker 2: off the ball when he is double teams. Like those
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Speaker 2: small things that rookies have to deal with. It just
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Speaker 2: looks like he already knows.
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Speaker 3: How to do them.
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Speaker 1: Sor Todd with us from the Deseret News. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: a little bit about Jess summer League. It's funny you
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Speaker 1: mentioned all those things. I'm lucky enough to work with
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Speaker 1: Alex Jensen, who's got a little bit of experience in
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Speaker 1: pro basketball. And we were talking about Darren Peterson. We
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Speaker 1: saw him this year when Utah played Kansas, and I
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Speaker 1: asked al about him and he just said, hey, he
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Speaker 1: just makes it look easy. And this was, you know,
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Speaker 1: back in February. He said, he's a pro and he
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Speaker 1: just makes it look, as you said, fluid and easy.
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Speaker 1: And this was Alex talking about him when he was
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Speaker 1: playing at Kansas dealing with injuries and stuff. And I said,
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Speaker 1: he said he's going to be a good and that
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Speaker 1: was back then, and Alic's got a pretty good eye
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Speaker 1: for those things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've you know, talking to like Steve Rosharowski,
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Speaker 2: the Jazz assistant coach who was their head coach during
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Speaker 2: during summer league. He he was, you know, head coach
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Speaker 2: at Marquette for many many years, and he, you know,
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Speaker 2: he was an assistant duke, Like he's seen guys go
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Speaker 2: through the college system. He knows what players look like
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Speaker 2: when they're that age, when they're Darren Peterson's age, and
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Speaker 2: he was like, you know, I've seen a lot of
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Speaker 2: great players in my day. And like the fact that he.
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Speaker 3: Does that, that he makes it look easy.
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Speaker 2: That he is so smart and that he doesn't you know,
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Speaker 2: he does he deals with pressure within the game so well,
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Speaker 2: like that is unique to people his age and so
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Speaker 2: it and I've heard what Alex said, he makes it
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Speaker 2: look easy. That phrase comes up every time you talk
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Speaker 2: to scouts or executives just across the league about Darren.
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Speaker 2: It's they say it over and over again. He makes
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Speaker 2: it look easy.
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Speaker 3: And some one is making it look that easy.
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Speaker 2: At nineteen years old, Like I guess it's you know,
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Speaker 2: you can.
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Speaker 3: Get you can get away.
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Speaker 2: We get ahead of yourself thinking about the potential of
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Speaker 2: what he might look like when he's twenty three, twenty four,
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Speaker 2: twenty five, you know, when he starts to hit his
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Speaker 2: NBA prime.
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Speaker 3: It just it does really feel like this guy is
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Speaker 3: the limit for somebody like him.
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Speaker 1: Hard to grade Bailey because, as you said, the backspasms
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Speaker 1: are jazz people you've talked to concerned at all about
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Speaker 1: the backspasms or is this something they will pass.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there.
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Speaker 3: Is a little there is a little bit of concern
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Speaker 3: about it.
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Speaker 2: Again, when I asked Wiojo about it, he was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's concerning. And I think that the reason that it's
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Speaker 2: concerning is because it's not like he went like straight
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Speaker 2: into these games cold. You know, like the young guys
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Speaker 2: have been in Salt Lake. They've been working out, they've
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Speaker 2: been lifting, they've been you know, playing pick up against
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Speaker 2: each other for weeks, and so it's not like he
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Speaker 2: just went in off of not working out and you know,
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Speaker 2: started having like backspasms because he was doing something different.
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Speaker 2: So I wonder if it has to do with just
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Speaker 2: how much strength he's been gaining already, because he does
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Speaker 2: look like he's bulked up quite a bit over the
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Speaker 2: summer already, and you know, we have to remember there's
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Speaker 2: a huge portion of the off season still remaining, so
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Speaker 2: it's it's only been you know, about two months since.
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Speaker 3: The season ended, and so.
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Speaker 2: I just think that that is a little bit concerning,
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Speaker 2: and so I'm you know, it's in the back of
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Speaker 2: my mind thinking about it, but there's so much time
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Speaker 2: remaining in the off season and so they probably are
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Speaker 2: going to have this under control and like it shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be an issue as we go into the regular season.
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Speaker 2: But like I said, outside of that, what's really as
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Speaker 2: exciting about Ace is that he does look like he's
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Speaker 2: like put on some really good NBA weight already, and that.
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Speaker 3: It's a successful off season as.
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Speaker 2: Far as strength goes for him, and he still looks
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Speaker 2: like he's going to be so so good and having
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Speaker 2: that strength, it could be really excited about what kind
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Speaker 2: of a defender he can be because he's got such
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Speaker 2: good lengths and such good instinct from the ball on defense,
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Speaker 2: and so that's what I'm most excited about him and
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Speaker 2: like seeing it at the beginning of next season. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I am thinking about that. I mean, he's a really
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Speaker 2: young kid who you know, has been working out regularly
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Speaker 2: and he's dealing with backspots and to the point that
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Speaker 2: you know, they put him into a game and then
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Speaker 2: at halftime and he's like, now we got.
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Speaker 3: To shut him down.
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Speaker 2: He's still not feeling good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, Nineteen twenty year olds generally don't or
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be dealing with back problems. That's old people or
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Speaker 1: guys that have been around the league a little bit
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Speaker 1: or that have been seriously injured. Those are Sarah Todd issues,
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Speaker 1: Bill Riley issues too. Since you and I haven't talked,
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Speaker 1: and this is probably maybe ground you've covered with Spencer
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Speaker 1: or Sean, but in your in your informed opinion, how
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Speaker 1: much better are they now than they were when the
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Speaker 1: season ended than they were a year ago at this time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen some oftening offseason editions, the Hayes,
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Speaker 1: yet Kog, the re signing of Nurkic, you know, the
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Speaker 1: rookies that are getting a year old Peterson clearly, how
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Speaker 1: much better do you think they are right now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird question because I think that the
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Speaker 2: thing that we have to say is that we didn't
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Speaker 2: actually know how good they were last year, Like, we
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Speaker 2: have not seen this team. We've not seen Lowry unleashed
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Speaker 2: for three years, right, we haven't seen Will Hardy really
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Speaker 2: be able to coach a team.
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Speaker 3: Without thinking about, you know, what kind of rotation should.
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Speaker 2: He have on the floor in the fourth quarter in
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Speaker 2: order to kind of maximize the potential of young players
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Speaker 2: versus maximize the potential of winning a game. And so
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Speaker 2: we don't know what that looks like when you know
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Speaker 2: Jaren is on the court with Lowry, with Keyante, with
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Speaker 2: someone like Darren Peterson, we don't know what any of
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Speaker 2: that really looks like. We've seen tiny little snippets, we've
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Speaker 2: seen small groups that have played together. We've seen just
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Speaker 2: a little bit of it to where we think we
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Speaker 2: know what it could look like. But we don't even
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Speaker 2: know before the offseason.
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Speaker 3: Editions, before any of it.
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Speaker 2: We don't even know what this team was before. And
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Speaker 2: I think that you know, probably most people would agree
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Speaker 2: with me that the Jazz were better than we ever
19:14
Speaker 2: saw them already. And so that was already like a
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Speaker 2: good team that was playing Everyone is playing with one
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Speaker 2: arm behind their back, and Will Hardy was coaching with
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Speaker 2: one arm behind his back, and so I think the
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Speaker 2: Jazz were so much better than we saw and that
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Speaker 2: they're going to be so much better this coming season.
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Speaker 2: Like that's why you've got so many people around the NBA,
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Speaker 2: myself included, thinking like this really should be a playing
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Speaker 2: team at.
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Speaker 3: The very worst, like this, if they.
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Speaker 2: Didn't make the postseason at the end of this season,
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Speaker 2: like that's probably going to feel like a disappointment for everyone.
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Speaker 2: The expectations are so high for this team after so
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Speaker 2: many years of tanking, because this team is better than
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Speaker 2: what they actually should on the court.
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Speaker 1: All right, last thing, I'll make you make an educated guess,
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Speaker 1: where's Lebron end up?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that conventional wisdom and like the
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Speaker 2: right thing to say and assume is probably Cleveland, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, like have this be the retirement tour.
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Speaker 2: Closed it out where it all began, Like the narrative
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Speaker 2: fits right. But selfishly, I think that I want it
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Speaker 2: to be Golden State just because I would like to
20:35
Speaker 2: watch the Steph and Lebron tour in what could be
20:40
Speaker 2: his final year. Right, Like, we've seen how much fun
20:44
Speaker 2: they have playing during the Olympics. And that's not to
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Speaker 2: say that it's going to really work or that either
20:50
Speaker 2: of them can you know, get a team to the finals, right,
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Speaker 2: but god, it would be so much fun, Like these
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Speaker 2: are two of the greatest players of this generation. Lebron
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Speaker 2: I think probably, you know, it's nearly unanimous that he's.
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Speaker 3: The greatest player of this generation.
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Speaker 2: And Steph would be right.
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Speaker 3: There in the conversation for that and.
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Speaker 2: Man, to watch them play together, like, I think that
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Speaker 2: it's what basketball deserves. So selfishly, I just think that
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Speaker 2: that would be the most fun. Answer.
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Speaker 1: Well, apparently pat Riley has made his pitch to Rich
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Speaker 1: Paul and so we'll see if he ends.
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Speaker 2: Up in Miami. Yeah, I mean that wouldn't surprise me too,
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Speaker 2: Like Lebron playing with Giannis, right, Like Lebron pairing with
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Speaker 2: any of these guys, right, Lebron going to play with
21:35
Speaker 2: Donovan and James Harden closing it out where it all began.
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Speaker 2: Lebron going back to Miami and trying to bring one
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Speaker 2: more championship while playing with you know, Bam and Giannis.
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Speaker 3: Or Lebron going to Golden State.
21:47
Speaker 2: And finally finally pairing up with Steph Curry and also
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Speaker 2: playing with Jimmy Butler when he gets back at.
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Speaker 3: Some point like all of those answers.
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Speaker 2: Are fun and they make sense, and I mean, I'm
21:58
Speaker 2: I'm with everyone else, like I'm just holding for us
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Speaker 2: and waiting until we find out what's actually gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Sarah, thanks for doing this great catching up. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no problem.
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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon, though, Sir Todd Dezret News Jazz Insider,
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